In re: Leslie Fred Danner and Terriann Rene Danner ( 2012 )


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  •                                                       FILED
    JUL 31 2012
    1
    SUSAN M SPRAUL, CLERK
    U.S. BKCY. APP. PANEL
    2                                                   OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    3               UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY APPELLATE PANEL
    4                         OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    5   In re:                        )    BAP No.   ID-11-1315-HJuMk
    )
    6   LESLIE FRED DANNER and        )    Bk. No.   11-00651-TLM
    TERRIANN RENE DANNER,         )
    7                                 )
    Debtors.      )
    8   ______________________________)
    )
    9   LESLIE FRED DANNER;           )
    TERRIANN RENE DANNER,         )
    10                                 )
    Appellants,   )
    11                                 )
    v.                            )
    12                                 )
    UNITED STATES TRUSTEE,        )
    13                                 )
    Appellee.     )
    14   ______________________________)
    )
    15   In re:                        )    BAP No.   ID-11-1525-HJuMk
    )
    16   KEVIN CLYDE WERRY and D’RESE )     Bk. No.   11-01710-JDP
    GRETCHEN WERRY,               )
    17                                 )
    Debtors.      )
    18   ______________________________)
    )
    19   KEVIN CLYDE WERRY;            )
    D’RESE GRETCHEN WERRY,        )
    20                                 )
    Appellants,   )
    21                                 )
    v.                            )    M E M O R A N D U M1
    22                                 )
    UNITED STATES TRUSTEE,        )
    23                                 )
    Appellee.     )
    24   ______________________________)
    25
    26        1
    This disposition is not appropriate for publication.
    27   Although it may be cited for whatever persuasive value it may
    have (see Fed. R. App. P. 32.1), it has no precedential value.
    28   See 9th Cir. BAP Rule 8013-1.
    1                   Argued and Submitted on June 14, 2012
    at Boise, Idaho
    2
    Filed - July 31, 2012
    3
    Appeal from the United States Bankruptcy Court
    4                         for the District of Idaho
    5     Honorable Terry L. Myers, Chief Bankruptcy Judge, Presiding2
    Honorable Jim D. Pappas, Bankruptcy Judge, Presiding3
    6
    Appearances:     Randal Jay French, Esq. of Bauer & French argued
    7                    for the Appellants; David W. Newman, Esq. of the
    Office of United States Trustee argued for the
    8                    Appellee.
    9
    Before: HOLLOWELL, JURY, and MARKELL, Bankruptcy Judges.
    10
    11        Randal J. French of the law firm, Bauer & French,
    12   (collectively referred to as French) appeals orders denying his
    13   applications for employment.   In each bankruptcy case, French
    14   disclosed that he had received an “advance payment retainer” from
    15   the debtors.    However, the bankruptcy courts found that the
    16   advance payment retainer was actually a security retainer, and
    17   therefore, was property of the estate, which required that French
    18   seek approval and authorization pursuant to § 3304 before he
    19   could draw against it to pay his fees.   Because the employment
    20   applications did not contemplate that the retainers would be
    21   reviewed under § 330, the bankruptcy courts denied them.    We
    22   AFFIRM.
    23
    2
    24            BAP No. ID-11-1315.
    3
    25            BAP No. ID-11-1525.
    26        4
    Unless otherwise indicated, all chapter and section
    27   references are to the Bankruptcy Code, 
    11 U.S.C. §§ 101-1532
    .
    All “Rule” references are to the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy
    28   Procedure, Rules 1001-9037.
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    1                                    I.   FACTS
    2   A.     Danner Bankruptcy Case
    3          On March 16, 2011, Leslie and TerriAnn Danner (the Danners)
    4   filed a chapter 11 petition for relief and remained as debtors-
    5   in-possession.      The same day, French filed an employment
    6   application for approval pursuant to § 327 (Danner Employment
    7   Application).      In the Danner Employment Application, and in the
    8   accompanying disclosures and affidavits, French disclosed that he
    9   had received funds from the Danners prior to the bankruptcy
    10   filing.      The Danners paid French $8,539, which included a $7,500
    11   “advance payment retainer” (Retainer) and $1,039 for the filing
    12   fee.       According to the fee agreement between French and the
    13   Danners, the Retainer was considered to be advance payment for
    14   French’s services to be provided in the chapter 11 case.        French
    15   disclosed that he would charge an hourly fee for services and
    16   then credit the services performed both before and after the
    17   Danners’ filing against the Retainer.         French also stated that he
    18   would “account for all services rendered and refund any unearned
    19   retainer or seek additional compensation if the fees for services
    20   rendered exceeds the amount of the advance payment retainer.”
    21          On March 31, 2011, the bankruptcy court issued a notice of
    22   hearing on the Employment Application.        Prior to the hearing, the
    23   United States Trustee (UST) filed an objection to the Employment
    24   Application contending that French was using the Retainer to
    25   ensure payment for postpetition services without seeking
    26   bankruptcy court approval, which improperly circumvented § 330.5
    27
    5
    28            Section 330 provides:
    (a)(1) After notice to the parties in interest and the
    United States Trustee and a hearing, and subject to sections
    (continued...)
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    1        French filed a response to the UST’s objection.    French
    2   asserted that the Retainer, as an “advance payment retainer,”
    3   belonged to French as of the date of payment and was not part of
    4   the bankruptcy estate.   French stated he had deposited the
    5   Retainer in the firm’s general business account; it was not
    6   segregated in a client trust account.   French also asserted that
    7   because the Retainer was not the Danners’ property or property of
    8   the Danners’ estate, review under § 330 was not required.
    9        A hearing on the Danner Employment Application took place on
    10   April 18, 2011.   The bankruptcy court took the matter under
    11   advisement.    On May 26, 2011, the bankruptcy court issued a
    12   memorandum decision and order denying the Danner Employment
    13   Application.   The bankruptcy court found that despite French’s
    14   characterization, the Retainer was not an advance payment
    15   retainer because it was not a flat fee for services to be
    16   performed.    Instead, the bankruptcy court found that French
    17   intended to use the Retainer, in part, as compensation for future
    18
    5
    19        (...continued)
    326, 328, and 329, the court may award to a trustee, . . .
    20     or a professional person employed under section 327 . . .
    (A) reasonable compensation for actual, necessary
    21     services rendered by the . . . professional person, or
    22     attorney and by any paraprofessional person employed by any
    such person; and
    23          (B) reimbursement for actual, necessary expenses.
    24
    The court must consider and take into account all relevant
    25   factors, including time spent on services, rates charged, whether
    the services were necessary to the administration of the estate,
    26   performed in a reasonable time and manner, or duplicative.
    27   
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a)(3), (4). Therefore, the court may award
    compensation that is less than the amount of compensation
    28   requested. 
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a)(2).
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    1   yet-to-be performed services.   Thus, the bankruptcy court found
    2   that the Danners retained an ownership interest in the Retainer.
    3   As a result, the bankruptcy court found that the Retainer was a
    4   security retainer used to secure payment for future fees, which
    5   remained property of the estate, and which could only be drawn
    6   upon to the extent compensation is awarded and authorized
    7   pursuant to § 330.   The bankruptcy court denied the Danner
    8   Employment Application because under the terms of French’s
    9   proposed employment, French would draw against the Retainer in
    10   contravention of § 330.   The Danners timely appealed.
    11   B.   Werry Bankruptcy Case
    12        Kevin Clyde and D’Rese Gretchen Werry (the Werrys) filed a
    13   chapter 11 bankruptcy petition on June 6, 2011, and continued as
    14   debtors-in-possession.    Two days later, French filed an
    15   employment application pursuant to § 327 (Werry Employment
    16   Application).   In the Werry Employment Application and
    17   accompanying disclosures and affidavits, French disclosed that he
    18   had received, prepetition, $7,500 as an “advance payment
    19   retainer” (Retainer).    The Retainer and fee agreement in the
    20   Werrys’ case were the same as those in the Danners’ case.     The
    21   Retainer was considered advance payment for pre- and postpetition
    22   services provided in the chapter 11 case.   French disclosed that
    23   he would charge an hourly fee for services and then credit the
    24   services performed both before and after the Werrys’ filing
    25   against the Retainer.    Additionally, French stated that he would
    26   either refund any unearned portion of the Retainer or seek
    27   additional compensation if the fees for services performed
    28   exceeded the amount of the Retainer.
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    1        Also, in the Werry Employment Application and affidavit
    2   submitted with it, French disclosed that the Retainer was
    3   provided by Carol Duppong (Duppong).    While the Werrys
    4   acknowledged that their friend, Duppong, had paid the Retainer,
    5   they agreed to pay for any fees over the Retainer amount.6
    6   French disclosed that $4,294.50 of the Retainer had already been
    7   used to pay for prepetition services.   Finally, French disclosed
    8   that it had represented no interest adverse to the Werrys or the
    9   estate.
    10        The UST objected to the Werry Employment Application.   The
    11   UST objected because:
    12        Counsel appears to have paid himself for post-petition
    services that had not been performed as of the date of
    13        payment. He states that he will account to the Court
    for all services post-petition, but by implication that
    14        is merely an accounting and not an application for the
    Court to approve the fees paid pre-petition but earned
    15        post-petition.
    16        French made three main arguments in its response to the
    17   UST’s objection.   First, French argued that the Retainer was not
    18   a basis for denial of the Werry Employment Application, but that
    19   the bankruptcy court could only deny employment if the attorney
    20   is not disinterested or holds an interest adverse to the estate.
    21   Second, French argued that because the Retainer was an advance
    22   payment retainer, the bankruptcy court could review its
    23   //
    24   //
    25
    26        6
    The Werrys’ schedules list Duppong as an unsecured,
    27   nonpriority creditor holding a $8,539 claim stemming from a loan.
    Therefore, it appears that the Werrys borrowed the money from
    28   Duppong to pay French.
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    1   reasonableness under § 329.7   Third, French contended that
    2   advance payment retainers were not unethical or impermissible
    3   under the Bankruptcy Code or Idaho law.
    4        A hearing on the Werry Employment Application was held on
    5   July 19, 2011.    The bankruptcy court took the matter under
    6   advisement and subsequently issued a memorandum decision finding
    7   that (1) French failed to adequately disclose his relationship to
    8   Duppong, a creditor of the bankruptcy estate, and was potentially
    9   not disinterested; and (2) the Retainer was not an advance
    10   payment retainer and therefore was property of the estate, which
    11   required authorization and approval for payment under § 330.      For
    12   these reasons, the bankruptcy court denied the Werry Employment
    13   Application.    It entered its order denying the Werry Employment
    14   Application on August 26, 2011.     The Werrys timely appealed.
    15
    7
    
    11 U.S.C. § 329
    .
    16
    17     (a) Any attorney representing a debtor in a case under this
    title, or in connection with such a case, whether or not
    18     such attorney applies for compensation under this title,
    19     shall file with the court a statement of the compensation
    paid or agreed to be paid, if such payment or agreement was
    20     made after one year before the date of the filing of the
    petition, for services rendered or to be rendered in
    21     contemplation of or in connection with the case by such
    22     attorney, and the source of such compensation.
    23     (b) If such compensation exceeds the reasonable value of any
    such services, the court may cancel any such agreement, or
    24
    order the return of any such payment, to the extent
    25     excessive, to–
    (1) the estate, if the property transferred –
    26          (A) would have been property of the estate; or
    27          (B) was to be paid by or on behalf of the debtor under
    a plan under chapter 11, 12, or 13 of this title; or
    28       (2) the entity that made such payment.
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    1                             II.    JURISDICTION
    2        The bankruptcy courts had jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C.
    3   § 157(b)(2)(A) and § 1334(b).      The Bankruptcy Appellate Panel
    4   granted the Danners’ and Werrys’ motions for leave to appeal the
    5   interlocutory orders; therefore, we have jurisdiction under
    6   
    28 U.S.C. § 158
    .
    7                                   III.     ISSUE
    8        Did the bankruptcy courts err in finding that the Retainers
    9   were property of the debtors’ estates, and therefore, that they
    10   could only be drawn upon to the extent compensation is awarded
    11   and authorized under § 330?
    12                       IV.    STANDARDS OF REVIEW
    13       Employment orders are reviewed for abuse of discretion.
    14 COM-1 Info, Inc. v. Wolkowitz (In re Maximus Computers, Inc.),
    15 
    278 B.R. 189
    , 194 (9th Cir. BAP 2002).             A bankruptcy court abuses
    16 its discretion if it bases a decision on an incorrect legal rule,
    17 or if its application of the law was illogical, implausible, or
    18 without support in inferences that may be drawn from the facts in
    19 the record.   United States v. Hinkson, 
    585 F.3d 1247
    , 1261-62 &
    20 n.21 (9th Cir. 2009) (en banc); Ellsworth v. Lifescape Med.
    21 Assocs., P.C. (In re Ellsworth), 
    455 B.R. 904
    , 914 (9th Cir. BAP
    22 2011).   The bankruptcy court abuses its discretion if it makes a
    23 clearly erroneous finding of fact.             Hinkson, 
    585 F.3d at 1262
    .   A
    24 factual finding is clearly erroneous if it is “illogical,
    25 implausible, or without support in the record.”            Retz v. Samson
    26 (In re Retz), 
    606 F.3d 1189
    , 1196 (9th Cir. 2010) (citing
    27 Hinkson, 
    585 F.3d at
    1261-62 & n.21).
    28
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    1                           V.    DISCUSSION
    2 A.   The Employment Application
    3      Because the Danners and the Werrys are debtors-in-possession
    4 acting in the capacity of a trustee, they are required to obtain
    5 approval under § 327 for any professional they seek to employ.
    6 See 
    11 U.S.C. § 1107
    .   Valid employment under § 327 is a
    7 prerequisite to compensation.     Movitz v. Baker (In re Triple Star
    8 Welding, Inc.), 
    324 B.R. 778
    , 790 (9th Cir. BAP 2005).      Section
    9 327 provides that:
    10      with the court’s approval, [a trustee] may employ one
    or more attorneys, . . . or other professional persons,
    11      that do not hold or represent an interest adverse to
    the estate, and that are disinterested persons . . . .
    12
    13 
    11 U.S.C. § 327
    (a).   Thus, in order to obtain court approval, two
    14 conditions have to be satisfied: the professional (1) may not
    15 hold or represent an interest adverse to the estate, and (2) must
    16 be a disinterested person.     Tevis v. Wilke, Fleury, Hoffelt,
    17 Gould & Birney, LLP (In re Tevis), 
    347 B.R. 679
    , 687 (9th Cir.
    18 BAP 2006).   A “disinterested person” means a person that is not a
    19 creditor, equity security holder or insider and does not have an
    20 interest materially adverse to the interest of the estate or any
    21 class of creditors or equity security holders.    See 11 U.S.C.
    22 § 101(14).   A “creditor” is an “entity that has a claim against
    23 the debtor that arose at the time of or before the order for
    24 relief.”   
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (10).
    25      Applications for employment must provide “full, candid and
    26 complete” disclosure of the facts pertinent to a court’s
    27 determination of whether an attorney is qualified under § 327.
    28 Mehdipour v. Marcus & Millichap (In re Mehdipour), 
    202 B.R. 474
    ,
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    1 480 (9th Cir. BAP 1996); Neben & Starrett, Inc. v. Chartwell Fin.
    2 Corp. (In re Park-Helena Corp.), 
    63 F.3d 877
    , 880 (9th Cir. 1995)
    3 (attorneys must comply with strict disclosure requirements).
    4 Rule 2014(a) mandates that an application for employment include
    5 a verified statement of the proposed professional that sets forth
    6 the professional’s connections with the debtor, creditors, or any
    7 other party in interest.
    8       The UST did not object to the employment of French based on
    9 any disqualification as a result of an adverse interest or
    10 because French was not disinterested.8   Instead, the UST objected
    11 to the proposed terms and conditions of French’s employment.
    12 Specifically, the UST contended that it was improper for French
    13 to accept any prepetition fees for postpetition services without
    14 receiving authorization by the bankruptcy court under the
    15 requirements of § 330.9
    16
    8
    17          The bankruptcy court in the Werry case found that French
    did not properly disclose that Duppong was a creditor of the
    18   estate. Furthermore, it found that (although unclear) if the
    19   Retainer was paid to French directly by Duppong, French likely
    was not a disinterested person under § 327(a). Because we affirm
    20   the bankruptcy court’s decision to deny the Werry Employment
    Application based on the analysis of the Retainer, we need not
    21
    address whether the bankruptcy court erred in finding that the
    22   disclosure was inadequate or that French was potentially not
    disinterested.
    23
    9
    Prepetition payment for prepetition services are not
    24
    considered property of the estate and such payment is solely
    25   reviewed for reasonableness under § 329. See In re C&P Auto
    Transp., Inc., 
    94 B.R. 682
    , 687 (Bankr. E.D. Cal. 1988).
    26   However, review under § 329 is not undertaken as a matter of
    27   course, but by motion made by any party in interest or on the
    court’s own initiative. Rule 2017(a). Thus, the use of § 329
    28                                                      (continued...)
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    1         The bankruptcy court must ensure that attorneys who
    2 represent the debtor do so in the best interests of the estate.
    3 Id. at 880.       Professionals seeking employment must disclose,
    4 along with the employment application, the terms and conditions
    5 of any compensation agreement.      Rule 2014(a), Local Bankruptcy
    6 Rule (LBR) 2014.1(a)(1).      As a result, courts examine proposed
    7 fee arrangements when deciding whether to approve employment
    8 applications.      Additionally, § 328 contemplates that employment
    9 of professionals under § 327 will be based on reasonable terms
    10 and conditions.      
    11 U.S.C. § 328
    (a).   Thus, a bankruptcy court
    11 may properly review an employment application for the
    12 reasonableness of the compensation agreement at the outset of a
    13 case.       In re Heritage Mall Assocs., 
    184 B.R. 128
    , 131 (Bankr. D.
    
    14 Or. 1995
    ).
    15         Section 328(a) provides that the debtor-in-possession, with
    16 the court’s approval, “may” employ a professional under § 327 “on
    17 any reasonable terms and conditions of employment, including on a
    18 retainer [basis] . . .”      
    11 U.S.C. § 328
    (a).   The operative words
    19 are “may” and “reasonable.”      A bankruptcy court has wide
    20 discretion to decide whether a proposed arrangement is or is not
    21 reasonable or appropriate under the circumstances of a particular
    22 case.       See Official Comm. Of Unsecured Creditors v. Harris (In re
    23 Sw. Food Distribs., LLC), 
    561 F.3d 1106
    , 1112 (10th Cir. 2009)
    24 (considering attorney fees with the employment application is
    25
    26         9
    (...continued)
    27   shifts the burden from the debtor and his attorney to demonstrate
    the fees spent in a case are reasonable to the creditors and the
    28   court to identify an issue as to excessive or unreasonable fees.
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    1 judicially efficient).   If a bankruptcy court does decide to
    2 approve a professional’s employment and its proposed compensation
    3 arrangement under § 328(a), then a bankruptcy court’s later
    4 inquiry into the reasonableness of the fees is limited to whether
    5 the agreement proved to be “improvident in light of developments
    6 not capable of being anticipated at the time of the fixing of
    7 such terms and conditions.”    
    11 U.S.C. § 328
    (a).
    8      The Ninth Circuit has held that if an attorney wants
    9 approval of its compensation arrangement or retention agreement
    10 at the outset of a case, he must unambiguously specify that he
    11 seeks approval under § 328 in his employment application,
    12 otherwise the attorney must justify his fees as reasonable for
    13 actual and necessary services and be approved by the bankruptcy
    14 court under the application procedure of § 330.      Circle K. Corp.
    15 v. Houlihan, Lokey, Howard & Zukin, Inc. (In re Circle K Corp.),
    16 
    279 F.3d 669
    , 673-74 (9th Cir. 2002).
    17      Here, French did not seek approval of his compensation
    18 arrangements with the Danners or Werrys under § 328.
    19 Nevertheless, French argues that because the Retainer was an
    20 advance payment retainer, it was not subject to review under
    21 § 330.   He argues that because the Retainer was not property of
    22 the estate and was paid prepetition, that the only review that
    23 applied was a review for reasonableness under § 329.     Thus, in
    24 order to assess French’s argument, we must turn to an analysis of
    25 the nature of the Retainers.
    26 B.   The Retainers
    27      There are several types of retainers used by attorneys in
    28
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    1 fee arrangements.10    For example, there is a “classic” retainer
    2 that is a retaining fee given to insure and secure an attorney’s
    3 future services and induce him to act for the client.       Rus,
    4 Miliband & Smith, APC v. Yoo (In re Dick Cepek, Inc.), 
    339 B.R. 5
     730, 736 n.5 (9th Cir. BAP 2006).        An “advance payment retainer”
    6 is defined “as one in which the debtor pays for all or a portion
    7 of the services to be rendered by the attorney in advance, or in
    8 other words, a ‘flat fee’ arrangement.”       In re Dearborn Constr.,
    9 Inc., 
    2002 WL 31941458
    , *5 (Bankr. D. Idaho, Dec. 20, 2002); In
    10 re GOCO Realty Fund I, 
    151 B.R. 241
    , 251 (Bankr. N.D. Cal. 1993);
    11 see also, In re Dick Cepek, Inc., 339 B.R. at 736 (advance
    12 payment retainer occurs when client pre-pays for expected
    13 services).   Classic and advance payment retainers are considered
    14 to be earned-on-receipt entitling an attorney to the retainer at
    15 the time of payment.    In re Dick Cepek, Inc., 339 B.R. at 736.
    16 Thus, once the client pays the retainer, the client no longer has
    17 an interest in the money, and the retainer becomes property of
    18 the attorney.
    19       A more common type of retainer is the security retainer.        “A
    20 security retainer is generally held as security for payment of
    21 fees for future services to be rendered by the attorney.”       Id.      A
    22 security retainer differs from an earned-on-receipt retainer
    23 because the money remains property of the client until the
    24 attorney applies it to charges for services actually rendered;
    25
    26        10
    “The term ‘retainer’ has become inherently ambiguous
    27   [and] . . . has come to be used loosely in various connotations
    to include the compensation paid to an attorney for services.”
    28   In re C&P Auto Transp., Inc., 
    94 B.R. at 686
    .
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    1 any unearned funds are returned to the client.          
    Id.
     citing
    2 3 COLLIER   ON   BANKRUPTCY ¶ 328.02[3][b][I] (15th ed. 2005).   Because a
    3 security retainer remains the client’s property until it is
    4 earned and applied to services rendered, it must be held in an
    5 attorney’s client trust account.         Thus, security retainers are
    6 routinely held to be property of the estate.          In re Blackburn,
    7 
    448 B.R. 28
    , 35 (Bankr. D. Idaho 2011).
    8       French’s main argument on appeal is that the bankruptcy
    9 courts’ refusal to approve the Danner Employment Application and
    10 the Werry Employment Application was based on an erroneous view
    11 that advance payment retainers are impermissible under the
    12 Bankruptcy Code.        He asserts that there cannot be a prohibition
    13 on the use of advance payment retainers because they are critical
    14 to ensure compensation in chapter 7 cases.11
    15       The bankruptcy courts, however, did not deny the Danner
    16 Employment Application and the Werry Employment Application
    17 because of the use of an advance fee retainer.          Indeed, the
    18 bankruptcy courts agreed that if the Retainers were advance
    19 payment retainers then the debtors and their estates would not
    20 have an interest in the retainers.           However, the bankruptcy
    21
    22
    11
    Chapter 7 debtors’ attorneys not employed under § 327 may
    23   not draw on a security retainer in compensation for fees because
    the retainer is property of the estate, and to do so would
    24
    undermine § 330 and the holding of Lamie v. United States
    25   Trustee, 
    540 U.S. 526
    , 538-39 (2004). However, because flat fee,
    or advance payment retainers, belong to the attorney when paid,
    26   Lamie allows attorneys to be paid a reasonable advance/flat fee
    27   retainer without approval under § 327 or § 330. See In re
    Blackburn, 
    448 B.R. at 37
    . “Indeed the Code anticipates these
    28   arrangements." Lamie, 
    540 U.S. at
    538 (citing § 329).
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    1 courts reviewed the nature of the Retainers and determined that
    2 the Danners and the Werrys retained an interest in them.     As a
    3 result, even though French steadfastly characterizes the
    4 Retainers as advance payment retainers, the bankruptcy courts
    5 found that they were not actually advance payment retainers but
    6 security retainers.   In re C&P Auto Transp., Inc., 
    94 B.R. at
    687
    7 (the substance, not the name of a retainer determines its nature
    8 and legal attributes).   French does not articulate in his
    9 appellate briefs why the bankruptcy courts clearly erred in
    10 finding that the Retainer was a security retainer, and upon
    11 reviewing the records, we cannot say the finding was illogical or
    12 implausible.
    13      The issue of whether a debtor’s interest in a retainer is
    14 property of the estate is a question of federal law.   McCarthy,
    15 Johnson & Miller v. N. Bay Plumbing, Inc. (In re Pettit),
    16 
    217 F.3d 1072
    , 1078 (9th Cir. 2000); In re Blackburn, 
    448 B.R. 28
    17 at 35.   However, “bankruptcy courts must look to state law to
    18 determine whether and to what extent the debtor has any legal or
    19 equitable interests in property as of the commencement of the
    20 case.”   In re Pettit, 
    217 F.3d at
    1078 citing Butner v. United
    21 States, 
    440 U.S. 48
    , 55 (1979) (“Property interests are created
    22 and defined by state law.”).   Thus, we review whether under Idaho
    23 law a client/debtor maintains an interest in an advance payment
    24 retainer.   See also, In re McDonald Bros. Constr., Inc., 
    114 B.R. 25
     989, 996 (Bankr. N.D. Ill. 1990) (If under state law ownership of
    26 a retainer passed to the professional, the client/debtor would
    27 have no interest in the retainer and the retainer would not be
    28 property of the estate; therefore, earned-on-receipt retainers
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    1 could be taken by professionals without prior court approval.).
    2       Idaho law allows for advance payment retainers, provided the
    3 fee is reasonable.   See State ex. rel. Moore v. Scroggie,
    4 
    704 P.2d 364
    , 370 (Idaho Ct. App. 1985); see also, Idaho Rules of
    5 Professional Conduct (IRPC), commentary, 1.5 (“Fees”) at [4].12
    6 However, any advance payment made to an attorney is not
    7 considered the attorney’s property until it is actually earned.
    8 Id.; IRPC 1.16(d).   Additionally, IRPC 1.15(c) directs attorneys
    9 to deposit into a client trust account legal fees and expenses
    10 that have been paid in advance, to be drawn on by the attorney
    11 only as fees are earned or expenses incurred.
    12       As the bankruptcy courts noted, in order for French to
    13 properly obtain an interest in the Retainers, he had to have
    14 earned the fees on receipt.   In the disclosures of compensation
    15 filed with the Danner Employment Application and with the Werry
    16 Employment Application, French indicated that in consideration
    17 for the Retainers, French would: (1) provide an analysis of the
    18 Danners’ and Werrys’ financial situations and advise them on
    19 whether to file bankruptcy; (2) prepare and file bankruptcy
    20 petitions, schedules and plans; (3) represent them at the § 341
    21 meeting of creditors and plan confirmation hearing; and, (4) with
    22 respect to the Werrys, represent them in adversary proceedings
    23 and other contested bankruptcy matters.   However, there was no
    24 indication that the Retainer amount of $7,500 would completely
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    Idaho law regarding advance payment retainers is scant,
    27   limited essentially to Scroggie. Additionally, there does not
    appear to be an Ethics Opinion interpreting the IRPC or
    28   discussing advance fee retainers.
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    1 compensate French for those tasks.     Although French disclosed
    2 that $4,294.50 of the Werrys’ Retainer had been drawn on for non-
    3 specified prepetition services, French did not otherwise indicate
    4 what portion of the Retainers had been billed or used to complete
    5 any of the specific enumerated tasks.13
    6       French stated that he would draw on the Retainers only as
    7 the time and services were expended on the cases and that any
    8 unearned portion of the Retainers would be refunded.    French also
    9 stated that he would seek additional compensation if the fees for
    10 services provided exceeded the amount of the Retainers.
    11 Moreover, French indicated that his fees would be based on hourly
    12 billing rates and that he would provide regular detailed
    13 statements showing the work done, time spent, and the charges
    14 incurred and deducted from the Retainers.    These facts support
    15 the bankruptcy courts’ findings that the Retainers were not true
    16 earned-on-receipt or advance payment retainers, but instead were
    17 security retainers where fees are determined and earned as the
    18 hours are worked in the respective cases and the retainers are
    19 used to provide a secure source of payment for the past and
    20 future services.
    21       Based on the information contained in the Danner Employment
    22 Application, Werry Employment Application, and the accompanying
    23 fee agreements and disclosures, French concedes that the
    24 Retainers were not entirely earned prepetition and that they were
    25 not anticipated to fully compensate French for enumerated past
    26
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    French did not indicate that any of the Danners’ Retainer
    28   had been used for prepetition services.
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    1 and future services that he expected to perform in the bankruptcy
    2 cases.   Thus, we conclude that the bankruptcy courts’ findings
    3 that the Retainers were not advance payment retainers, but were
    4 instead security retainers, were not clearly erroneous.
    5        The consequence of the bankruptcy courts’ findings that the
    6 Retainers were security retainers is that the Retainers were
    7 property of the Danners’ and Werrys’ bankruptcy estates.    French
    8 acknowledges that approval of compensation from funds of the
    9 estate requires the authorization and approval under §§ 330 and
    10 331.   See, e.g., Appellants’ Opening Brief, BAP No. ID-11-1525 at
    11 25; Appellants’ Opening Brief, BAP No. ID-11-1315 at 10-11.
    12 Accordingly, we conclude that the bankruptcy courts did not err
    13 in denying the Danner Employment Application and the Werry
    14 Employment Application because they failed to contemplate
    15 approval of the Retainers under § 330.
    16                            VI. CONCLUSION
    17        For the reasons stated above, we AFFIRM the order of the
    18 bankruptcy court that denied the Danner Employment Application in
    19 BAP No. ID-11-1315 and the order of the bankruptcy court that
    20 denied the Werry Employment Application in BAP No. ID-11-1525.
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