Modeski v. Summit Retail Solutions, Inc. ( 2022 )


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  •           United States Court of Appeals
    For the First Circuit
    No. 20-1747
    JOSEPH MODESKI, et al.,
    Plaintiffs, Appellants,
    v.
    SUMMIT RETAIL SOLUTIONS, INC.,
    Defendant, Appellee.
    APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS
    [Hon. F. Dennis Saylor, IV, Chief U.S. District Judge]
    Before
    Lynch, Lipez, and Thompson,
    Circuit Judges.
    Benjamin L. Davis, III, with whom the Law Offices of Peter T.
    Nicholl was on brief, for appellants.
    Barry J. Miller, with whom Michael E. Steinberg and Seyfarth
    Shaw LLP were on brief, for appellee.
    February 25, 2022
    LIPEZ, Circuit Judge.            The Fair Labor Standards Act
    ("FLSA") generally requires employers to pay minimum wage and
    overtime.     
    29 U.S.C. §§ 206
    (a), 207(a)(1).                However, it exempts
    from these protections anyone employed "in the capacity of outside
    salesman."       
    Id.
     § 213(a)(1).       The question here is whether the
    appellants in this case -- who worked as "Brand Representatives"
    for appellee, a marketing company -- fall within that outside sales
    exemption.       Agreeing with the district court that the appellants
    qualify as outside salespeople under governing law, we affirm the
    district court's summary judgment ruling in favor of the marketing
    company.
    I.
    A. Facts
    The    following   facts   are    undisputed.          Summit    Retail
    Solutions is a marketing company that contracts with clients --
    department stores, grocery stores, and wholesale retailers -- to
    provide in-store demonstrations designed to increase sales.                      Its
    clients include Costco, Sam's Club, and BJ's.
    Summit employs "Brand Representatives" to perform these
    in-store demonstrations and engage with customers.                  Brand Reps are
    assigned    to     designated   stores,      where    they    set   up   a    display
    featuring    a     particular   product      (for    example,   bamboo       pillows,
    frozen pierogi, or a garlic butter purported to make the "best
    grilled cheese sandwich ever").           Brand Reps then hand out samples
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    or otherwise demonstrate the product (e.g., by getting customers
    to "feel how soft the pillow" is).              Summit provides Brand Reps
    with sales pitch scripts, promotional materials, and training in
    specific sales techniques.         Brand Reps often have sales experience
    before joining Summit.
    The Brand Reps' goal is to "convert" a sale by getting
    the customer to place the product in his or her cart or basket.
    Brand Reps do not finalize any sale at their display station.
    Rather, customers pay for all their items at cash registers near
    the front of the store.        Summit adopted this approach because it
    is more efficient for the actual sales transactions to occur all
    at once, at the registers operated by the retail store's own
    employees.    That is also how retail stores typically operate.
    Because of these arrangements, Brand Reps cannot be sure
    that customers with whom they have spoken are ultimately purchasing
    the products.        A shopper who takes a product from the display
    station might have second thoughts and decide to return the item
    to   the   display    (or   just   leave   it   somewhere   in   the   store).
    Conversely, a Brand Rep might not be personally responsible for
    every sale of a displayed item.            For example, a customer might
    grab a box of pierogi from the freezer without engaging with the
    Brand Rep or take a pillow from the display station when the Brand
    Rep is away on lunch break.            As a result, a Brand Rep would
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    generally not know the exact sales numbers until he or she checks
    the sales report the next day.
    In addition to assigning Brand Reps to specific stores,
    Summit sets their schedules and dictates which products they
    display.   Once assigned to a store, Brand Reps set up and stock
    their own displays.   At the beginning of their workday, Brand Reps
    are required to submit time-stamped pictures of their displays to
    Summit, to confirm that they have arrived on time and that the
    displays are properly set up.      Brand Reps' hours are carefully
    recorded and tracked.
    Summit pays its Brand Reps a base hourly wage ranging
    between $10 and $15 per hour.   Brand Reps can also earn commission-
    style bonuses (referred to internally as "true-up payments").1
    B. Procedural background
    A group of former Brand Reps sued Summit on behalf of
    themselves and other Brand Reps, seeking to recover unpaid overtime
    wages under the FLSA and analogous state wage laws.    Their theory
    1 To calculate these payments, Summit compares the total
    hourly pay that a Brand Rep earns with a set percentage of the
    total product sales that were generated by the Rep at his or her
    store. If the latter exceeds the former, the Brand Rep receives
    that excess as a bonus.     If, however, the former exceeds the
    latter, the Brand Rep accrues a negative balance, which would then
    be offset against any future bonuses. A Brand Rep who maintains
    a significant negative balance for an extended period (i.e.,
    several weeks) would be subject to disciplinary action, including
    termination.
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    was that the true-up system forced Brand Reps to systematically
    underreport their actual hours, lest they face termination or other
    adverse consequences for maintaining a negative balance between
    their hourly pay and the set percentage of product sales.     As a
    result, they alleged, many Brand Reps failed to receive overtime
    wages for working over forty hours per week.
    As part of its defense, Summit argued that plaintiffs
    fell within the FLSA's outside sales exemption and thus were not
    entitled to overtime compensation at all.2     The parties cross-
    moved for summary judgment on that issue.      The district court
    agreed with Summit and, in a comprehensive and thoughtful decision,
    granted summary judgment in Summit's favor and dismissed the case
    in its entirety.   On appeal, plaintiffs argue that the district
    court erred in concluding that they were subject to the exemption.3
    2 In the past, Summit apparently had classified Brand Reps as
    "non-exempt" employees entitled to overtime and had paid overtime
    (at time-and-a-half) for all hours reported over forty per
    workweek. At some point before the present suit, Summit changed
    its position. Regarding this shift, the district court noted that
    "[s]everal courts have . . . held that 'while the label of
    "nonexempt" may be evidence that a position is not exempt, such a
    label is not dispositive.'" Modeski v. Summit Retail Sols., Inc.,
    
    470 F. Supp. 3d 93
    , 101 (D. Mass. 2020) (quoting Burke v. Alta
    Colls., Inc., No. 11-cv-02990-WYD-KLM, 
    2015 WL 1399675
    , at *44 (D.
    Colo. Mar. 23, 2015)).    On appeal, plaintiffs assert that "[t]he
    fact that Summit classified its Brand Reps as non-exempt to begin
    with reveals the futility of its subsequent exemption argument."
    We disagree.
    3 Consistent with the parties' briefing, the district court
    determined that the analogous state law wage claims were subject
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    II.
    We review a grant of summary judgment de novo and affirm
    if the record, construed in the light most favorable to the
    nonmovant, presents no genuine issue of material fact and shows
    that the movant is entitled to judgment as a matter of law.               See
    Lawless v. Steward Health Care Sys., LLC, 
    894 F.3d 9
    , 20-21 (1st
    Cir. 2018).   That both plaintiffs and defendant moved for summary
    judgment   does   not   change   the    underlying   standard;    we   simply
    determine whether either side deserves judgment as a matter of law
    on the undisputed facts.     See Wells Real Est. Inv. Tr. II, Inc. v.
    Chardon/Hato Rey P'ship, S.E., 
    615 F.3d 45
    , 51 (1st Cir. 2010).
    While the FLSA generally requires that employers pay
    their employees a statutory minimum wage and overtime, see 
    29 U.S.C. §§ 206
    (a), 207(a)(1), it exempts from those requirements
    "any employee employed . . . in the capacity of outside salesman."
    
    29 U.S.C. § 213
    (a)(1).      The FLSA itself does not define "in the
    capacity of outside salesman" or the component terms.            Instead, it
    leaves them to be "defined and delimited . . . by regulations of
    the Secretary [of Labor]."       Id.; see also Long Island Care at Home,
    Ltd. v. Coke, 
    551 U.S. 158
    , 165 (2007) (noting that "the FLSA
    explicitly leaves gaps" to be filled by regulations).
    to the same outside sales analysis as the FLSA claim.            Plaintiffs
    have not challenged that conclusion on appeal.
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    The relevant federal regulations, in turn, define an
    "employee employed in the capacity of outside salesman" as any
    employee (1) "whose primary duty is . . . making sales within the
    meaning of [
    29 U.S.C. § 203
    (k)]" and (2) "who is customarily and
    regularly engaged away from the employer's place or places of
    business   in   performing   such    primary     duty."    
    29 C.F.R. § 541.500
    (a).4 The cross-referenced statutory provision, 
    29 U.S.C. § 203
    (k), provides that "'[s]ale' or 'sell' includes any sale,
    exchange, contract to sell, consignment for sale, shipment for
    sale, or other disposition."
    Plaintiffs do not contest that they were "customarily
    and regularly engaged away from the employer's place or places of
    business." 
    29 C.F.R. § 541.500
    (a)(2). They also accept that their
    "primary duty" was communicating with potential customers and
    trying to convince them to buy the featured products (and not, for
    example, stocking shelves or setting up the displays).          See 
    id.
    § 541.500(a)(1)(i). But they reject the idea that those activities
    amount to "making sales."      See id.      They contend that as Brand
    Reps they did not "mak[e] sales" within the meaning of the FLSA
    because they "never sold anything" -- i.e., they did not obtain a
    4 The definition also includes any employee "[w]hose primary
    duty is . . . obtaining orders or contracts for services or for
    the use of facilities for which a consideration will be paid by
    the client or customer." 
    29 C.F.R. § 541.500
    (a)(1)(ii). That part
    of the definition is not at issue in this case.
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    sufficiently concrete purchase commitment from shoppers (who were
    always free to reconsider their decision to take a product from
    the display station and remove the item from their cart before
    heading to the register).
    III.
    Our analysis begins with the Supreme Court's seminal
    consideration of the outside sales exemption in Christopher v.
    SmithKline Beecham Corp., 
    567 U.S. 142
     (2012).                      In determining
    whether certain pharmaceutical sales representatives fell within
    the   exemption,        the   Court    in    Christopher       outlined     several
    considerations that are germane to resolving the present dispute.
    First, the FLSA provision establishing the exemption
    refers   to    anyone    employed     "in    the    capacity   of    [an]   outside
    salesman."      
    29 U.S.C. § 213
    (a)(1) (emphasis added).                  Christopher
    suggested that "the statute's emphasis on the 'capacity' of the
    employee" is an "interpretative clue" that "counsels in favor of
    a functional, rather than a formal, inquiry, one that views an
    employee's     responsibilities       in    the     context   of   the   particular
    industry in which the employee works."                
    567 U.S. at 161
    .
    Second, as previously mentioned, the relevant statutory
    definition provides that "'[s]ale' or 'sell' includes any sale,
    exchange, contract to sell, consignment for sale, shipment for
    sale, or other disposition."               
    29 U.S.C. § 203
    (k).           Again, per
    Christopher: (1) the word "includes" suggests that the subsequent
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    examples are "illustrative, not exhaustive," 
    567 U.S. at 162
    ,
    (2) the       open-ended        modifier        "any"      suggests         a    sale
    "indiscriminately of whatever kind" is sufficient to fall within
    the definition, 
    id.
     (quoting United States v. Gonzales, 
    520 U.S. 1
    , 5 (1997)), and (3) the final phrase ("other disposition")
    functions as a "broad catchall," suggesting that Congress (and
    thus the Department of Labor ("DOL")) wanted to define sale in a
    "broad manner," did not intend to require a "'firm agreement' or
    'firm commitment' to buy," and meant "to accommodate industry-by-
    industry variations in methods of selling commodities," id. at
    163-64.
    Third,   Christopher        noted    that   the    DOL    itself    has
    explained (in reports and regulations) that the exemption is
    applicable "whenever an employee 'in some sense make[s] a sale.'"
    Id. at 149 (quoting U.S. Dep't of Labor, Wage & Hour Div., Report
    and     Recommendations       of    the    Presiding      Officer      at   Hearings
    Preliminary to Redefinition 46 (1940)).                 The Department has also
    "made    it   clear    that   '[e]xempt       status    should   not    depend'    on
    technicalities, such as 'whether it is the sales employee or the
    customer who types the order into a computer system and hits the
    return    button.'"       Id.      (quoting    Defining    and    Delimiting      the
    Exemptions for Executive, Administrative, Professional, Outside
    Sales and Computer Employees, 
    69 Fed. Reg. 22,122
    , 22,163 (Apr.
    23, 2004)).
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    Christopher thus indicates that we should consider the
    plaintiffs'   situation      pragmatically,     in    the   context    of   the
    relevant industry, not relying on technicalities, and without
    requiring them to have obtained a firm commitment to buy in order
    to determine that they "mak[e] sales" within the meaning of the
    FLSA.   Taken together, these considerations support our conclusion
    that Brand Reps fall within the outside sales exemption.
    Although   they    do   not   ring   up    any   purchase   at   the
    register, Brand Reps do as much as practically possible to "in
    some sense make[] a sale" in the retail store context in which
    they operate.     
    Id. at 149
     (quoting U.S. Dep't of Labor, Wage &
    Hour Div., Report and Recommendations of the Presiding Officer at
    Hearings Preliminary to Redefinition 46).               Brand Reps work to
    persuade shoppers, who then can demonstrate some intention (or
    "nonbinding commitment") to buy a product by placing it in their
    shopping carts or baskets.      
    Id. at 149, 161
    .       As the district court
    noted, "[t]he cashiers r[i]ng up the sale, but otherwise engage[]
    in no sales activity of any kind.          There is no evidence that any
    cashier ever attempted to persuade a customer to buy the product,
    and indeed it would [be] odd for them to do so at the point of
    check-out."     That is, a Brand Rep is the last person to make an
    actual sales effort; the finalization process -- at the checkout
    register when the cashier rings up the purchase -- is simply a
    nondiscretionary,     ministerial    act   that      does   not   involve   any
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    additional sales effort.    See Gregory v. First Title of Am., Inc.,
    
    555 F.3d 1300
    , 1310 (11th Cir. 2009) (finding plaintiff subject to
    the   outside   sales   exemption   in   part   because   there   was   "no
    intervening sales effort between her efforts and the consummation
    of the sale").    In short, the type of transaction at issue in this
    case fits well within the broad "other disposition" catchall for
    "making sales."     See Christopher, 
    567 U.S. at 163
    ; 
    29 U.S.C. § 203
    (k).5
    Our conclusion, which is grounded on Christopher, the
    text of the statute, and the DOL regulations, draws further support
    from a recent DOL opinion letter.        This opinion letter considered
    the status of employees like plaintiffs who "travel to various
    retail operations such as . . . so-called big-box stores," "set up
    displays in which they exhibit and demonstrate products they are
    selling," and "spend most of their time pitching products to
    potential customers at the various retail locations."         U.S. Dep't
    of Labor, Wage & Hour Div., Opinion Letter FLSA2020-8 (June 25,
    2020), at 1.     Although the DOL could not conclusively determine
    whether the specific employees at issue were engaged in sales, the
    letter identified the relevant inquiry as whether "the employees
    are obtaining commitments from customers and being credited for
    5 We   disagree with our dissenting colleague that this
    conclusion   conflicts with the FLSA's goal of protecting covered
    workers.     Rather, our conclusion clarifies which workers are
    covered by   the relevant statutory protections.
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    the sales consummated because of their efforts."        
    Id. at 4
    .6    In
    this case, Brand Reps did obtain a commitment from customers
    (albeit a nonbinding one) and generally were credited with sales
    made as a result of their efforts.7
    IV.
    Appellants     offer   several    arguments   against   their
    inclusion within the outside sales exemption.       Most importantly,
    they suggest that we should not be guided by Christopher because
    of a key factual difference between that case and ours.              The
    pharmaceutical   sales     representatives     in   Christopher      were
    6 The opinion letter was issued in response to a "request for
    an opinion on whether salespeople who set up displays and perform
    demonstrations at various retail locations not owned, operated, or
    controlled by their employer to sell the employer's products
    qualify for the outside sales exemption." Opinion Letter FLSA2020-
    8, at 1. The factual situation presented in the request differs
    in some ways from the situation in this case -- for example, the
    employees referenced in the request spend some portion of their
    time working from home.      
    Id.
        The DOL ultimately could not
    determine whether these employees working at "big-box stores" fell
    within the outside sales exemption because (1) the requestor's
    "description of the employees' activities does not describe
    whether or how an employee obtains a commitment from the customer
    to buy" and (2) "it is unclear if the employees are given credit
    for the sales that were consummated specifically through their
    efforts." 
    Id. at 4
    .
    7 We say that Brand Reps "generally" were credited with sales
    made as a result of their efforts because there is some imprecision
    in the system. For example, as previously noted, a customer may
    return a product it took from the Brand Rep's display station to
    the shelf or take a product from the station while it is
    unattended.
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    prohibited by law from consummating any sales because prescription
    drugs, under federal law, can be dispensed only with a doctor's
    prescription.    Christopher, 
    567 U.S. at 150
    .        The sales reps
    instead promoted their companies' products (prescription drugs) to
    doctors but did not actually sell anything -- at most, the sales
    reps would obtain "a nonbinding commitment from the physician to
    prescribe [the company's] products in appropriate cases."       
    Id. at 151
    . The legal limitation on the reps' ability to consummate sales
    influenced the Court's analysis:
    Obtaining a nonbinding commitment from a
    physician to prescribe one of respondent's
    drugs is the most that petitioners were able
    to do to ensure the eventual disposition of
    the products that respondent sells. This kind
    of arrangement, in the unique regulatory
    environment   within   which    pharmaceutical
    companies must operate, comfortably falls
    within the catchall category of "other
    disposition."
    
    Id. at 165
     (footnote omitted).     In an accompanying footnote, the
    Court further clarified its point: "[W]hen an entire industry is
    constrained by law or regulation from selling its products in the
    ordinary manner, an employee who functions in all relevant respects
    as an outside salesman should not be excluded from that category
    based on technicalities."   
    Id.
     at 165 n.23.
    Of course, Summit's Brand Reps were not prohibited by
    law from finalizing the sales at their display stations.      Instead,
    they   were   constrained   by   Summit's   choice,   based   on   the
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    practicalities involved in the retail store context, to have all
    products rung up at the store registers.                  But as the Second Circuit
    has explained, "[a]lthough Christopher noted that the regulatory
    context     barred    an    employee    from    selling      the    company's   drugs
    directly to a consumer without a doctor's prescription, . . .
    Christopher     does       not   further    suggest       that    its   reasoning   and
    interpretation of the statute and regulations" -- what we have
    identified      as     its       pragmatic     approach,          not    relying     on
    technicalities -- "lack[s] general applicability to other cases
    arising under the FLSA."            Flood v. Just Energy Mktg. Corp., 
    904 F.3d 219
    , 230–31 (2d Cir. 2018).                    We agree that Christopher's
    overall construction of the FLSA and the attendant regulations are
    not limited to that case's particular facts.                     See 
    567 U.S. at
    161-
    64.8
    Plaintiffs argue that out-of-circuit case law supports
    their position. They rely particularly on Hurt v. Commerce Energy,
    Inc., 
    973 F.3d 509
     (6th Cir. 2020).                 The plaintiffs there worked
    as     door-to-door    solicitors,         trying    to    convince     customers   to
    purchase electricity and natural gas products from their company,
    Just Energy.         
    Id. at 514
    .       If interested, customers would sign
    Our dissenting colleague suggests that the scope of the
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    outside sales exemption depends on the extent to which the relevant
    industry is regulated.     But if Congress or the Supreme Court
    intended to limit application of the exemption to heavily regulated
    industries, they could have said as much. They did not do so.
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    something called a "customer agreement," but that agreement "was
    non-binding and did not finalize the transaction."          
    Id.
         Just
    Energy had complete authority to accept or reject the agreement.
    
    Id.
     In practice, it would regularly reject agreements -- sometimes
    due to a failed credit check, but often seemingly for purely
    discretionary reasons, which were often not even communicated to
    the solicitors.   
    Id. at 514-15, 519
    .       On these facts, the court
    concluded that the solicitors were not "making sales."            
    Id. at 521
    .
    In reaching that conclusion, as the plaintiffs here
    stress, the Hurt court found it significant that "[n]o regulatory
    environment   prohibited   the    solicitors   from   controlling    and
    completing the sale directly to customers."       
    Id. at 519
    .     To the
    Hurt court, that fact meaningfully distinguished the case from
    Christopher and in part led to the conclusion that the solicitors
    were not making sales.     
    Id.
       But as we have indicated, we do not
    think that the underlying logic of Christopher can be properly
    limited to situations where an employee cannot consummate a sale
    because of the regulatory context.
    In any case, Hurt also seemed to rely on the fact that,
    regardless of whether the arrangement was determined by law or the
    choice of a business model, any customer agreement was subject to
    verification and approval by Just Energy and customer agreements
    were frequently rejected.        
    Id. at 519
    .    That is, Just Energy
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    retained ultimate discretion to finalize the sale.                 
    Id.
         Here, by
    contrast, although customers can choose not to purchase a product
    after interacting with a Brand Rep, no entity at the store other
    than the Brand Rep has any discretionary role in determining
    whether the sale is consummated.
    For additional support of their position, plaintiffs
    point to Beauford v. ActionLink, LLC, 
    781 F.3d 396
     (8th Cir. 2015),
    in which the court determined that so-called "brand advocates"
    were not subject to the outside sales exemption.                 
    Id. at 405
    .      But
    the Beauford plaintiffs were hired merely "to visit retail stores,
    to   train   the    retail    stores'    employees    on    how    [the    brand's]
    electronics worked, and to convince those employees to recommend
    [the brand's] products to customers."                
    Id. at 399
    .          The brand
    advocates occasionally answered questions for customers, but their
    job duties did not entail engaging customers for the purpose of
    persuading them to buy a particular product.               
    Id.
        In other words,
    unlike in this case, "[b]rand advocates simply promoted products
    so employees of retail stores could make sales."                  
    Id. at 403
    .
    Plaintiffs      also   suggest   that,     rather     than     "making
    sales," they were engaged in non-exempt "promotional work."                       They
    point to DOL regulations recognizing that potential distinction:
    as   an   example    of   promotional     work,   the      regulations      cite    a
    hypothetical "company representative who                visits chain stores,
    arranges     the    merchandise     on   shelves,     replenishes         stock    by
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    replacing old with new merchandise, sets up displays and consults
    with the store manager when inventory runs low, but does not obtain
    a commitment for additional purchases."          
    29 C.F.R. § 541.503
    (c).
    In that scenario, "[t]he arrangement of merchandise on the shelves
    or   the   replenishing    of   stock"   could   be   exempt   if   it   were
    "incidental to and in conjunction with the employee's own outside
    sales."     
    Id.
        But it would not be "exempt outside sales work" if
    the employee "does not consummate the sale nor direct efforts
    toward the consummation of a sale."        
    Id.
    We find these regulations to be of limited help to
    plaintiffs.       Christopher rejected the idea that these particular
    regulations shed any light on the underlying inquiry here -- what
    qualifies as "making a sale."        See 
    567 U.S. at 164
     (noting that
    "the promotion-work regulation distinguishes between promotion
    work that is incidental to an employee's own sales and work that
    is incidental to sales made by someone else," but arguing that
    "this distinction tells us nothing about the meaning of 'sale'").
    More fundamentally, plaintiffs are not helped by the promotion
    regulations because the promotion-type work that they do (e.g.,
    setting up displays) is so clearly incidental to their own sales
    efforts.     Further, they are not engaging in any type of work so
    that someone else can obtain a purchase commitment and consummate
    the sale.
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    Plaintiffs also contend that they do not exhibit the
    "external indicia" of salespeople.              In Christopher, the Supreme
    Court     found   "further    support"    for     its    conclusion     that   the
    pharmaceutical reps fell within the outside sales exemption in the
    fact that the reps bore "all of the external indicia of salesmen."
    
    567 U.S. at 165
    .       Specifically,      the     Court   noted   that   the
    pharmaceutical reps (1) "were hired for their sales experience,"
    (2) "were trained to close each sales call by obtaining the maximum
    commitment possible," (3) "worked away from the office, with
    minimal supervision," and (4) "were rewarded for their efforts
    with incentive compensation."9        
    Id.
     at 165–66.
    These "external indicia" are not helpful to plaintiffs,
    even if the indicia do not precisely fit the Brand Rep position.
    Many of the Brand Reps had prior sales experience, even if they
    were not always specifically hired because of that experience.
    They received sales training from Summit and were paid commissions
    based on purchases made at their assigned stores (even if the true-
    up payments were not necessarily easy to qualify for).                  And while
    9As other courts have noted, it is somewhat unclear how these
    "external indicia" relate to the Court's core outside sales
    analysis, which was focused on the meaning of "making sales." See
    Flood, 904 F.3d at 233-34 (noting that "the regulations that define
    'making sales' do not include any reference" to many of the
    indicia); Vasto v. Credico (USA) LLC, 767 F. App’x 54, 57 (2d Cir.
    2019) (unpublished summary order) (describing the indicia as
    "arguably dicta in Christopher"). Regardless, because the Supreme
    Court saw fit to mention these indicia, they warrant consideration
    in our analysis.
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    Brand Reps had to report their hours and provide pictures of their
    display stations, they were not closely supervised on a day-to-
    day or hour-to-hour basis.
    Lastly, plaintiffs point to a statement in Christopher
    that the Court's holding "also comports with the apparent purpose
    of   the   FLSA's   exemption   for   outside   salesmen,"   because   the
    pharmaceutical sales reps there were well-paid (earning more than
    $70,000 annually) and their work hours were hard to standardize.
    Id. at 166.     Courts have opined that the outside sales exemption
    “is premised on the belief that exempt employees 'typically earn[]
    salaries well above the minimum wage' and enjoy[] other benefits
    that 'se[t] them apart from the nonexempt workers entitled to
    overtime pay.'"     Hurt, 973 F.3d at 522 (quoting Christopher, 
    567 U.S. at 166
    ).
    It is true that, unlike the pharmaceutical reps in
    Christopher, Brand Reps are not paid well above the minimum wage,
    their retail-based hours would seem easy to standardize, and they
    are not the beneficiaries of job-related perks.         But we think it
    would be a mistake to rely on Christopher's "apparent purpose"
    comment rather than the Supreme Court's reasoning regarding the
    dispositive "making sales" issue.          Cf. Flood, 904 F.3d at 233
    (noting that other aspects of the analysis in Christopher are
    "secondary to the Supreme Court's primary analysis of whether the
    'making sales' requirement was satisfied in the first place").
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    Plaintiffs' arguments that they do not fall within the outside
    sales exemption are thus ultimately unavailing.10
    V.
    In    summary,   our   analysis   of   the   FLSA,   guided   by
    Christopher, leads us to the firm conclusion that plaintiffs do
    "mak[e] sales" within the meaning of 
    29 C.F.R. § 541.500
    (a)(1)(i),
    and thus fall within the outside sales exemption, 
    29 U.S.C. § 213
    (a)(1).     We therefore affirm the judgment of the district
    court in Summit's favor.
    So ordered.
    -Dissenting Opinion Follows-
    10 We are troubled by plaintiffs' serious allegations that
    Summit systematically encouraged Brand Reps to underreport their
    hours as a way of evading wage laws. But these allegations --
    which Summit denies -- are only marginally related to our analysis
    of the outside sales exemption under the FLSA. When pressed on
    the connection between the two claims at oral argument, counsel
    for appellants suggested that the allegations about underreporting
    go to the issue of whether Brand Reps bear the "external indicia"
    of salespeople if they do not control their hours and overall
    compensation. As we have explained above, even if Brand Reps do
    not precisely bear all the "external indicia" of salespeople, the
    mixed picture provided by the "external indicia" analysis does not
    outweigh our core conclusion that Brand Reps "make sales" within
    the meaning of the outside sales exemption.           Whether the
    underreporting allegations could support claims under state wage-
    and-hour or contract law is not a question before us in this
    appeal.
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    THOMPSON, Circuit Judge, dissenting.           The Supreme Court
    has recognized that Congress enacted the Fair Labor Standards Act
    ("FLSA") "with the goal of protect[ing] all covered workers from
    substandard wages and oppressive working hours."                Christopher v.
    SmithKline Beecham Corp., 
    567 U.S. 142
    , 147 (2012) (internal
    quotation omitted).        This fundamental purpose animates why I would
    chart a different analytical path from my colleagues and would
    reverse the district court's ruling, instead finding that Brand
    Reps are non-exempt hourly employees entitled to overtime pay not
    subject to the Outside Sales Exemption ("OSE").11
    In reaching their conclusion, my colleagues, in my
    opinion, over-rely on Christopher without taking into account the
    ways in which its holding is tethered to the facts of the case
    that    was   before    the    Court   (facts    very   different     than   those
    presented here).        There, the Court found that pharmaceutical sales
    representatives        whose   primary   duty     was   to   obtain    nonbinding
    commitments      from     physicians     to     prescribe    their     employers'
    prescription drugs qualified as "outside salesmen."                   
    567 U.S. at 165
    .    But as I read it, Christopher's holding was wrapped up in
    what constitutes a sale in the pharmaceutical industry, subject to
    Prior to this suit, Summit did in fact classify Brand Reps
    11
    as non-exempt employees entitled to overtime.            The OSE
    classification was only raised as part of Summit's defense in this
    suit.
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    extensive federal regulation, an issue not present here.        
    Id. at 150, 154
    .
    To back up slightly, it's important to be clear on who
    an outside salesperson is, and what constitutes a "sale".           An
    outside salesperson is defined by regulation as an employee:
    (1) Whose primary duty is:
    (i) making sales within the meaning of
    section 3(k) of the Act, or
    (ii) obtaining orders or contracts for
    services or for the use of facilities for which
    consideration will be paid by the client or customer;
    and
    (2) Who is customarily and regularly engaged
    away from the employer's place or places of business in
    performing such primary duty.
    
    29 C.F.R. § 541.500
    (a).
    In Christopher, the Court, paraphrasing the FLSA and DOL
    regulations,    offered   the   following   definition:   "an   outside
    salesman is any employee whose primary duty is making any sale,
    exchange, contract to sell, consignment for sale, shipment for
    sale, or other disposition."     
    567 U.S. at 148
    .    The definition of
    "sale" is broad, and the list of transactions defining a "sale" in
    the regulations represents "an attempt to accommodate industry-
    by-industry variations in methods of selling commodities."       
    Id. at 163-64
    .     The pharmaceutical sales reps at issue in Christopher
    were exempt under the OSE because of the DOL's "other disposition"
    phrase in the sales regulations.       
    Id. at 165
    .     Because of the
    highly regulated nature of the pharmaceutical industry, the Court
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    found that the non-binding commitments made by sales reps were the
    closest commitment to a sale in that particular industry.     
    Id. at 161
    .   Determining whether an employee's work should be considered
    "other disposition" sales requires a functional inquiry as to what
    a sale would be in the particular industry.        
    Id.
        Indeed, in
    rejecting the dissent's suggestion "that any employee who does the
    most that he or she is able to do in a particular position to
    ensure the eventual sale of a product should qualify as an exempt
    outside salesman," the majority in Christopher made clear, "our
    point is that, when an entire industry is constrained by law or
    regulation from selling its products in the ordinary manner, an
    employee who functions in all relevant respects as an outside
    salesman should not be excluded from that category based on
    technicalities."   
    Id.
     at 165 n.23 (citing 
    id. at 177
     (Breyer, J.,
    dissenting)).
    In this appeal, we are not scrutinizing a technicality,
    and the majority's attempt to place Brand Reps in the shoes of
    pharmaceutical reps for the purposes of the "making sales" analysis
    is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.    Here, unlike
    in Christopher, there is nothing highly regulated or unique about
    the retail industry that prevents Brand Reps from making sales.
    In contrast to the pharmaceutical industry, Summit determines how
    far Brand Reps can go in their sales efforts.   So when the majority
    says that "a Brand Rep is the last person to make an actual sales
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    effort", it isn't because that is what the industry dictates (like
    in Christopher), but rather it is Summit's preferred business model
    that prevents Brand Reps from completing sales.           Indeed, the fact
    that there is "no intervening sales effort" tells us nothing about
    whether Brand Reps make sales, because in this context, it's
    difficult to even tie the sales to the "effort" in a concrete way.
    The   commissions   received   by   Brand   Reps   were   not   necessarily
    tethered to their individual performance, because a customer could
    pick up an item from their display without a Brand Rep knowing,
    (for instance, someone could pick up one of the products they were
    promoting while the Brand Rep was on a break, thereby purchasing
    the product without any "sales" effort on the part of anyone),
    just as a customer could seem to want a product at a display and
    later discard it elsewhere in the store before checkout.              While
    Christopher can provide us insight into how to evaluate when a
    "sale" is made, our judicial superiors analyzed the FLSA's OSE
    paradigm as it related to the facts in front of it -- facts quite
    different from what we analyze today.         The majority's lock-step
    loyalty to Christopher ignores this limitation, and because of
    that, I depart from them.
    Our sister circuits, who've ably navigated this issue in
    a way I find more persuasive, focus on the importance of obtaining
    binding commitments as a cornerstone in determining who makes
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    sales.12   In Hurt v. Commerce Energy, Inc., plaintiffs went door-
    to-door seeking to convince customers to buy natural gas products
    for the defendants.    
    973 F.3d 509
    , 514 (6th Cir. 2020), cert.
    denied sub nom. Just Energy Mktg. Corp. v. Hurt, 
    141 S. Ct. 2720
    (2021).    Once a customer became interested, there was a third-
    party verification process, where the sale was not final until a
    verification call happened.     
    Id.
       The actual door-to-door sales
    reps could not finalize or verify any sales.     
    Id.
    Here, the Sixth Circuit noted that Christopher is of
    limited import because of the "unique regulatory environment of
    the pharmaceutical industry."   
    Id. at 519
    .   Rather, in considering
    the work performed by the Hurt plaintiffs, the court found that
    "mere soliciting or inducing applications is not making sales,"
    
    id.,
     because "the touchstone for making a sale is . . . obtaining
    a commitment," 
    id.
     (alteration in original) (quoting Clements v.
    Serco, Inc., 
    530 F.3d 1224
    , 1227 (10th Cir. 2008)).     Because the
    plaintiffs "could only lay the groundwork," but not complete the
    sale, the Sixth Circuit concluded that due to defendants' business
    model, plaintiffs were not subject to the OSE.   Id. at 520 (quoting
    Clements, 
    530 F.3d at 1229
    ).
    12 While precedents from our sister circuits are not binding
    on us, where well-reasoned decisions from our far away colleagues
    can aid in analyzing the cases before us, it would be silly to
    ignore them. See United States v. Tavares, 
    705 F.3d 4
    , 20 (1st
    Cir. 2013) (employing the approach of looking to sister circuits).
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    The path taken in Hurt, which emphasizes the importance
    of obtaining a commitment to be considered a sale, is the best
    approach flowing from Christopher's reasoning when analyzing the
    fate of Brand Reps as outside salespeople or not.       The job of Brand
    Reps is to communicate with customers and try to convince them to
    buy Summit's client's products.     Just as in Hurt, after the Brand
    Rep's interaction with a customer, they have no way of knowing if
    they would be credited for the sale until much after, when the
    sales numbers from the retailer came in.       
    Id. at 514-15
    .
    My colleagues write off Hurt because "although customers
    can choose not to purchase a product after interacting with a Brand
    Rep, no entity at the store other than the Brand Reps has any
    discretionary   role      in   determining    whether    the    sale   is
    consummated."   In essence, they are saying, "if Brand Reps aren't
    making the sales, then who is?"     It is this fundamental flaw that
    weighs in favor -- not against -- seeing Brand Reps as exempt from
    the OSE, and why context matters when interpreting "making sales"
    in different industry environments.         It is Summit's choice that
    Brand Reps don't make sales -- in fact, Summit's own website states
    their mission as "grow[ing] brands [and] produc[ing] results".         In
    other words, Brand Reps are better viewed as pitch men, not product
    sellers or retailers.13
    13 Summit's website also states that            with respect to
    retailers,  Summit  offers the  following:            "[o]ur in-store
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    Another sister circuit has addressed this issue in a
    similar factual context.    See Beauford v. ActionLink, LLC, 
    781 F.3d 396
     (8th Cir. 2015).   There, "brand advocates" employed by a
    marketing services provider, who did not make direct sales (but
    rather engaged in promotional activities to boost sales for an
    electronics manufacturer), were not considered outside salesmen
    exempt from the FLSA's overtime requirements.    
    Id. at 403
    .    The
    job duties of brand advocates, as described by the Eighth Circuit,
    were quite similar to that of Brand Reps here:
    ActionLink hired “brand advocates” to visit retail
    stores, to train the retail stores' employees on how LG
    electronics worked, and to convince those employees to
    recommend LG products to customers.          ActionLink
    preferred to hire brand advocates with prior sales and
    marketing experience, but it did not require this prior
    experience.   Brand advocates occupied the bottom of
    ActionLink's organizational chart.
    ActionLink typically trained brand advocates for five
    days.   It assigned every brand advocate approximately
    twenty stores to cover each week. ActionLink provided
    brand advocates with scripts, PowerPoint presentations,
    and other promotional materials to use when they visited
    stores. In addition to teaching store employees about
    LG products, the brand advocates maintained in-store LG
    displays, cleaned and repaired LG products, and spoke
    with customers who had questions about the products.
    The brand advocates' goal was to boost sales of LG
    products.   ActionLink provided each brand advocate a
    small monthly budget to use for promotional activities.
    Despite their other tasks, brand advocates did not sell
    directly to customers or to retail stores. ActionLink
    demonstrations and carefully planned customer interactions create
    an authentic brand interaction with your customers and drive
    sales." To "drive" a sale is far different than consummating, or
    making, a sale, which is why I see Brand Reps as promotional
    workers. More on that later.
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    prohibited brand advocates from negotiating prices,
    making marketing decisions, and deciding what inventory
    should be ordered. Brand advocates maintained a close
    relationship with their supervisors.    They frequently
    spoke with supervisors during conference calls and
    through emails.   And at the end of each store visit,
    ActionLink required brand advocates to complete a six-
    page call report informing ActionLink exactly what the
    brand advocates did during their visits.
    
    Id. at 399-400
    .
    As this lengthy description lays bare, the majority
    appears to cherry-pick parts of these brand advocates' job duties
    that minimize their efforts and distinguish them from Brand Reps.
    However, some of the key duties that the majority fails to mention
    are the most similar to Brand Reps here, such as "sp[eaking] with
    customers who had questions about the products" and "boost[ing]
    sales of LG products." 
    Id. at 399
    . Nothing in the job descriptions
    of the Brand Reps here or the brand advocates in Beauford suggests
    these employees were outside salesmen as contemplated by 
    29 C.F.R. § 541.500
    (a).
    The Eighth Circuit also pointed out the importance of
    industry differences, reasoning that
    [u]nlike    the    pharmaceutical    industry
    discussed in Christopher, the world of consumer
    electronics is not subject to a "unique regulatory
    environment" that requires a recommendation from a
    licensed professional to obtain a product. Although a
    recommendation from a sales person may help a customer
    decide to purchase a specific brand of electronics, a
    customer need not obtain a recommendation before
    purchasing a product, and the customer is not
    constrained to purchase only recommended products.
    [So,] [t]he same danger that accompanies pharmaceutical
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    drugs is not present in the electronics context . . . .
    Those retail-store employees engaged in the paradigmatic
    sale of electronics—they convinced customers to choose
    a product and helped that customer pay for it at the
    cash register.
    
    Id. at 403
    .
    The same is true here.     Brand Reps can only go so far as
    to promote a product, and never know (until the sales numbers come
    in) whether or not a sale is actually consummated at the register
    by the retail store employees, and whether their promotion (if one
    even took place) had anything to do with it.14
    Satisfied that Brand Reps' activities do not constitute
    making "sales" under the FLSA, I find that non-exempt promotional
    work more accurately fits the bill when describing their job
    duties.    In this regard, the majority advises that the regulations
    surrounding    promotion    are   of    "limited   help"   because   the
    regulations do not "shed any light on the underlying inquiry" into
    what "make[s] a sale".     Since I've already concluded that no sales
    were made, I find the promotional regulations useful as I will
    explain.    As the regulation makes clear, promotion work can be
    14District courts have also come to similar conclusions. See
    Gorey v. Manheim Servs. Corp., 
    788 F. Supp. 2d 200
    , 206-07
    (S.D.N.Y. 2011) (employees of an automobile auction operator, who
    were tasked with inducing dealers to bring cars to auction lots
    and earned commissions when the cars were sold were not engaged in
    outside sales); Campanelli v. Hershey Co., 
    765 F. Supp. 2d 1185
    ,
    1190–91 (N.D. Cal. 2011) (declining to consider retail sales
    representatives (RSRs)as outside salesmen, where RSRs directly
    sold products to some retailers, there was no evidence that it was
    the primary duty of any RSR to make direct sales).
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    performed by persons who make sales, "which may or may not be
    exempt outside sales work, depending upon the circumstances under
    which it is performed." 
    29 C.F.R. § 541.503
    (a).                        Having already
    spelled out why I do not find Brand Reps to have engaged in exempt
    work, the regulation provides additional insight into how to
    categorize Brand Reps' duties. Brand Reps engage in "[p]romotional
    activities designed to stimulate sales that will be made by someone
    [other than the brand advocate]."             
    Id.
     § 541.503(b).          And the DOL's
    example of non-exempt promotional work describes Brand Reps' work
    better than I could:      "a company representative who visits chain
    stores, arranges the merchandise on shelves, . . . [and] sets up
    displays . . . but does not obtain a commitment for additional
    purchases" is performing non-exempt work.                 Id. § 541.503(c).
    What's more -- Brand Reps do not retain the "external
    indicia,"    Christopher,       
    567 U.S. at 165
    ,      of     salesmen,       a
    consideration    the    Court      made    along       with    determining         if   an
    employee's    position    "comports        with    the        apparent    purpose       of
    the . . .    exemption[,]"            Hurt,      973    F.3d     at    522    (quoting
    Christopher,    
    567 U.S. at 166
    .)         In    Christopher,         the    Court
    considered the fact that "[p]etitioners were hired for their sales
    experience[,]" had "minimal supervision" and "were rewarded for
    their efforts with incentive compensation" as factors supporting
    the external indicia of salespeople.              Christopher, 
    567 U.S. 142
     at
    165-66.     In Hurt, the Sixth Circuit notes that where, as here,
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    employees were "closely supervised" and "supervisors controlled
    Plaintiff's daily schedules, including selecting the streets on
    which they were to work[,]" employees' external indicia weighs
    against considering them outside salespeople.           Hurt, 973 F.3d at
    522.     Here, Brand Reps look much more like the Hurt employees than
    the Christopher employees, and I'll explain why.
    As discussed above, Brand Reps cannot obtain commitments
    from customers, which is one of the most important responsibilities
    of   a   salesperson.    In   addition,   a   typical    salesperson   has
    motivation to work, because typically, the more sales they make,
    the more money they take home, i.e., they are "rewarded for their
    efforts".     Christopher, 
    567 U.S. at 166
    .     But here, that dynamic
    isn't at play.    Brand Reps have minimal independence, independence
    being one of the hallmarks of a salesperson.            Brand Reps don't
    have control over their schedules or work assignments; they are
    given a schedule by a manager, and they clock their hours every
    day.     Summit also has control over where they are assigned, and
    the hours could vary based on the retailer they are assigned to
    visit.     The Brand Rep doesn't choose their store assignment --
    their manager does. Brand Reps are expected to send their managers
    pictures of their store display so the manager would know they are
    doing their job correctly.      Not to mention that their salaries,
    unlike the pharmaceutical sales representatives in Christopher who
    "earned an average of more than $70,000 per year," are not much
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    above minimum wage.     Christopher, 
    567 U.S. at 166
     ("The exemption
    is premised on the belief that exempt employees typically earned
    salaries well above the minimum wage and enjoyed other benefits
    that se[t] them apart from the nonexempt workers entitled to
    overtime pay."(internal quotations omitted)).             These factors, when
    viewed together using a functional, industry-wide analysis, weigh
    in favor of a finding that Brand Reps are not outside salesmen.
    Taking together the analytical paths travelled by sister
    circuits and mindful of the instructive considerations and factors
    those cases lay out, on the facts of this case, I'm compelled to
    reach the opposite conclusion from my colleagues in the majority.
    Ever mindful of the legislative goal of the FLSA -- to protect
    employees from unfair employment practices -- I'll end where I
    began:    with   an   outcome   weighing   in     favor    of   employee   pay,
    compelling a reversal of the district court's ruling and finding
    that   Brand   Reps   are   non-exempt   hourly    employees     entitled    to
    overtime pay.
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