United States v. Venezia ( 2021 )


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  •                                                                                    FILED
    United States Court of Appeals
    PUBLISH                                 Tenth Circuit
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS                           May 3, 2021
    Christopher M. Wolpert
    FOR THE TENTH CIRCUIT                             Clerk of Court
    _________________________________
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff - Appellee,
    v.                                                           No. 19-1432
    HUNTER TREY VENEZIA,
    Defendant - Appellant.
    _________________________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the District of Colorado
    (D.C. No. 1:19-CR-00220-RM-1)
    _________________________________
    Dean Sanderford, Assistant Federal Public Defender (Virginia L. Grady, Federal Public
    Defender, with him on the briefs), Office of the Federal Public Defender, Denver,
    Colorado, for Defendant-Appellant.
    Elizabeth S. Ford Milani, Assistant United States Attorney (Jason R. Dunn, United States
    Attorney, with her on the brief), Office of the United States Attorney, Denver, Colorado,
    for Plaintiff-Appellee.
    _________________________________
    Before McHUGH, BALDOCK, and BRISCOE, Circuit Judges.
    _________________________________
    BRISCOE, Circuit Judge.
    _________________________________
    This is a direct appeal by Hunter Venezia following his conditional plea to one
    count of possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine in violation of 
    21 U.S.C. §§ 841
    (a)(1) and (b)(1)(B)(viii). Specifically, Venezia challenges the district court’s
    denial of his motion to suppress evidence found after a traffic stop led to the
    impoundment and search of the vehicle he was driving. Venezia moved to suppress the
    evidence recovered from the search, arguing the officers’ impoundment of his vehicle
    violated the Fourth Amendment.
    The sole issue on appeal is whether the district court was correct in concluding the
    impoundment was constitutional. Exercising jurisdiction under 
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
    , we
    reverse the district court’s denial of Venezia’s motion to suppress and remand with
    directions to vacate Venezia’s conviction and sentence.
    I.      BACKGROUND
    A.      Factual History
    On January 2, 2019, at about 9:00 p.m., Officers David Tubbs and Jason Jewkes,
    two members of the Lakewood Police Department (“LPD”), were conducting a routine
    patrol in Lakewood, Colorado. They observed an Audi pull into the parking lot of a motel
    and then drive to a gas station across the street. Along the way, the driver—who was later
    determined to be Venezia—committed a traffic violation by failing to signal a turn. The
    vehicle soon returned to the motel parking lot, and as it did so, the officers observed that
    the front and rear license plates were not properly affixed to the vehicle’s front and rear
    bumpers; instead, the plates were improperly displayed in the passenger compartment.
    The officers ran the license plate number through their identification systems, which
    revealed the vehicle’s registered owner was a person named Luis Cuello.
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    Venezia then parked the vehicle in the motel’s private lot. The vehicle was
    “legally parked,” was “not obstructing traffic,” and did not pose “an imminent threat to
    public safety.” ROA Vol. 5 at 140. The motel and its parking lot were in a high crime
    area of Lakewood.
    The officers approached the vehicle based on the illegal turn they had observed.
    The officers asked Venezia, the driver and sole occupant of the vehicle, for his license,
    registration, and insurance. He did not have a driver’s license, registration for the vehicle,
    car insurance, title to the vehicle, or a bill of sale. Venezia told the officers his license
    was suspended; the officers confirmed that, in fact, his license had been revoked. Venezia
    presented the officers with his Colorado identification card, and the officers determined
    he had an outstanding misdemeanor warrant for “a failure to appear on a traffic ticket.”
    
    Id. at 75
    .
    When asked about Cuello—i.e., the vehicle’s registered owner—Venezia stated he
    did not recognize the name. He told the officers he had recently purchased the vehicle
    from a person named Dustin Estep but had been unable to insure or register it due to the
    holidays. The officers contacted their communication center in an attempt to reach Cuello
    by telephone, but the attempt was unsuccessful.
    At the suppression hearing, the district court found as a matter of fact that Venezia
    was the vehicle’s owner, and that he had recently purchased the vehicle from Estep, who
    had recently purchased it from Cuello. But the court further found the officers had no
    information available to them, at the time of their encounter with Venezia, that would
    have alerted them to this chain of title.
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    The officers arrested Venezia on the outstanding warrant and impounded the
    vehicle. Venezia objected to the impoundment. Although he was not a guest at the motel,
    Venezia indicated that an individual he referred to as his brother was staying there. The
    officers did not inquire whether Venezia’s “brother” (who turned out to be a friend,
    Christian Kelly) could take possession of the vehicle. The officers also did not ask
    anyone working at the motel for permission to leave the vehicle in the motel parking lot.
    During an inventory search of the vehicle, conducted as part of the impoundment,
    law enforcement found drugs, drug distribution paraphernalia, a gun holster, and
    ammunition. Venezia was released on bond, after which he was able to establish his
    ownership of the vehicle.
    B. Procedural History
    A grand jury charged Venezia with one count of possession with intent to
    distribute methamphetamine, among other counts not relevant here. Venezia moved to
    suppress the evidence recovered during the search, including the drugs. The government
    opposed his motion.
    The district court then held a suppression hearing at which Cuello, Estep, Venezia,
    Officer Tubbs, and Kelly testified. The court denied Venezia’s motion in an oral ruling.
    The court concluded the impoundment was conducted pursuant to the LPD’s
    standardized, written policies and was justified by a community-caretaking rationale. The
    court accordingly held the impoundment was constitutional.
    Venezia entered a conditional guilty plea to one count of possession with intent to
    distribute methamphetamine, reserving the right to appeal the district court’s denial of his
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    suppression motion. The district court entered judgment on November 5, 2019. Venezia
    filed a notice of appeal the following day.
    II.   DISCUSSION
    The Fourth Amendment prohibits “unreasonable searches and seizures.” U.S.
    Const. amend. IV. To be reasonable, a search “generally requires the obtaining of a
    judicial warrant.” Riley v. California, 
    573 U.S. 373
    , 382 (2014) (quoting Vernonia Sch.
    Dist. 47J v. Acton, 
    515 U.S. 646
    , 653 (1995)). “In the absence of a warrant, a search is
    reasonable only if it falls within a specific exception to the warrant requirement.” 
    Id.
    “The Government bears the burden of proving that the seizure and search were
    reasonable.” United States v. White, 
    584 F.3d 935
    , 944 (10th Cir. 2009); see also United
    States v. Sanders, 
    796 F.3d 1241
    , 1244 (10th Cir. 2015) (“The government bears the
    burden of proving that its impoundment of a vehicle satisfies the Fourth Amendment.”).
    When reviewing a district court’s denial of a motion to suppress, we review
    findings of fact for clear error, and we view the evidence in the light most favorable to
    the government. United States v. Hernandez, 
    847 F.3d 1257
    , 1263 (10th Cir. 2017). We
    review the determination of whether the search and seizure were reasonable under the
    Fourth Amendment de novo. 
    Id.
    One exception to the warrant requirement is a search or seizure conducted
    pursuant to police officers’ “community-caretaking functions.” In the context of vehicle
    impoundments, the community-caretaking doctrine arose from the everyday reality that
    police frequently encounter disabled vehicles or investigate vehicular accidents in which
    there is no cause to believe that a criminal offense has occurred. Cady v. Dombrowski,
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    413 U.S. 433
    , 441 (1973). Thus, in Cady, the Supreme Court recognized that police may
    impound a vehicle where the vehicle was disabled as a result of an accident, the driver
    could not arrange for the vehicle’s removal, and the vehicle’s presence “constituted a
    nuisance along the highway.” 
    Id. at 443
    .
    In South Dakota v. Opperman, 
    428 U.S. 364
    , 369 (1976), the Supreme Court
    elaborated by providing several illustrations in which the community-caretaking doctrine
    justifies impoundment. For example, following a vehicle accident, officers may impound
    a vehicle “[t]o permit the uninterrupted flow of traffic and in some circumstances to
    preserve evidence.” 
    Id. at 368
    . Violation of a parking ordinance may also justify
    impoundment under the community-caretaking doctrine, provided the parking violation
    “thereby jeopardize[s] both the public safety and the efficient movement of vehicular
    traffic.” 
    Id. at 369
    . Accordingly, the Supreme Court reasoned that “[t]he authority of
    police to seize and remove from the streets vehicles impeding traffic or threatening public
    safety and convenience is beyond challenge.” 
    Id.
    In Colorado v. Bertine, 
    479 U.S. 367
     (1987), the Supreme Court addressed
    inventory searches conducted pursuant to a community-caretaking impoundment. The
    Court explained that Opperman does not “prohibit[] the exercise of police discretion so
    long as that discretion is exercised according to standard criteria and on the basis of
    something other than suspicion of evidence of criminal activity.” 
    Id. at 375
    .
    Guided by the Supreme Court’s decisions in these cases, we clarified the precise
    standard for determining the constitutionality of a police-ordered impoundment on
    private property in Sanders: “when a vehicle is not impeding traffic or impairing public
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    safety, impoundments are constitutional only if guided by both [1] standardized criteria
    and [2] a legitimate community-caretaking rationale.” 796 F.3d at 1243. 1
    Here, Venezia argues the officers failed to comply with either requirement,
    rendering the impoundment unconstitutional for two independently sufficient reasons.
    The government disagrees. Reviewing de novo, we conclude that the impoundment was
    guided by standardized criteria, thus satisfying the first prong of Sanders. We also
    conclude, however, that the impoundment was not guided by a legitimate
    community-caretaking rationale, thus failing the second prong of Sanders.
    A. Standardized Criteria
    Under the first prong of the Sanders test, the impoundment of a vehicle, located on
    private property, that is not obstructing traffic or creating an imminent threat to public
    safety, is constitutional only if it is “guided by standardized criteria.” Sanders, 796 F.3d
    at 1243. The standardized criteria prong “ensures that police discretion to impound
    vehicles is cabined rather than uncontrolled,” and the existence of such standardized
    criteria is “the touchstone of the inquiry into whether an impoundment is lawful.” Id. at
    1248–49; see also Bertine, 
    479 U.S. at 375
    .
    1
    We have recently held that our two-prong inquiry under Sanders does not apply
    to impoundments where there is a “threat to public safety or traffic.” United States v.
    Trujillo, --- F.3d ---, No. 19-2212, 
    2021 WL 1257759
    , at *9 (10th Cir. Apr 6, 2021).
    Because the government asserts that the impoundment here was justified exclusively by
    the risk of theft or vandalism, as opposed to a safety- or traffic-related interest, we apply
    Sanders.
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    Here, the LPD officers’ discretion was cabined by their standardized
    impoundment policies set forth in their department manual. The specific policy Officers
    Jewkes and Tubbs relied on states when “[1] the driver of [a] vehicle does not have a
    valid driver’s license[,] . . . [2] the car is registered to another person[,] and [3] the [LPD]
    agent is unable to verify that the driver has permission to drive the vehicle, the agent is
    encouraged to impound the vehicle.” LPD Policy § 4741(B)(1)(d). Venezia does not
    argue the LPD’s policies provided insufficiently standardized criteria; nor does he argue
    that, when LPD Policy § 4741(B)(1)(d) is viewed in isolation, Officers Jewkes and Tubbs
    failed to abide by it. Because the officers’ decision fell within the bounds defined by the
    LPD’s pre-existing, standardized criteria, the first Sanders prong is satisfied.
    Venezia’s arguments to the contrary are unpersuasive. First, he argues that
    Lakewood’s Municipal Code (the “Code”) prescribes the limits of the LPD’s
    impoundment authority. As such, he argues the LPD’s impoundment policies must be
    interpreted as narrowed by the Code, and any interpretation of the LPD’s policies that
    exceeds the authority the Code confers is invalid. Properly construed in light of the Code,
    Venezia asserts, “the provisions of [LPD’s] policy . . . do not allow for impoundments
    from private property.” Aplt. Br. at 5. 2
    2
    Venezia points primarily to section 10.66.190 of the Code:
    10.66.190 Authority to impound vehicles.
    A. Whenever a police agent finds any vehicle parked upon any public street
    or public right of way in violation of the parking restrictions . . . contained
    on any official sign . . . or when any vehicle obstructs or interferes with the
    free flow of traffic, street maintenance, or access of emergency vehicles or
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    Even if Venezia’s interpretation of the Code were correct—an issue of local law
    we do not reach—his argument is irrelevant under Sanders. As indicated above, the
    concern articulated in Sanders—that is, the reason for the standardized criteria
    requirement—is to ensure that “police discretion to impound vehicles is cabined rather
    than uncontrolled.” 796 F.3d at 1249. And here, the LPD officers’ discretion was
    so-cabined by their written policies. Further, to the extent Venezia argues the
    standardized criteria prong requires officers to follow procedures that carry the force of
    law—as distinct from being lawful—our precedents do not support this contention.
    United States v. Ibarra, 
    955 F.2d 1405
     (10th Cir. 1992), is inapposite. There, the
    government argued an impoundment was constitutional because it was authorized under a
    Wyoming statute permitting officers to impound a vehicle where the person in charge of
    the vehicle was unable to provide for its removal or custody. 
    Id. at 1408
    . We rejected the
    government’s argument because the district court had found the defendant “was in fact
    able to provide for the removal and custody of his vehicle,” and this factual finding was
    not clearly erroneous. 
    Id. at 1409
    . Thus, the Wyoming statute on which the government
    equipment, or when any . . . vehicle which causes or tends to obstruct the
    free movement of pedestrians or other traffic upon a sidewalk, a police
    agent may order the vehicle towed to an impound lot . . . .
    B. Nothing in this section shall prohibit the towing of a vehicle to the
    impound lot pursuant to another section of this title.
    Venezia argues that because the Code expressly delineates particular circumstances under
    which the LPD has authority to impound vehicles, it would be an improper interpretation
    of the Code to infer it implicitly authorizes the LPD to impound vehicles under
    circumstances not provided for in the Code.
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    relied did not authorize the impoundment. Here, however, the government does not rely
    on the Code. Rather, the government argues the impoundment was authorized under the
    LPD Policy; thus, we only address whether the officers acted within that policy, which
    they did.
    Sanders’s first prong is agnostic about whether officers’ impoundment policies
    comply with local law concerning impoundments, or whether the policies have
    themselves been formally adopted as law. Rather, the first Sanders prong is concerned
    simply with whether standardized criteria cabin the discretion of law enforcement
    officers conducting impoundments, and about whether the law enforcement officers
    followed them—i.e., whether their discretion was actually cabined. Here, such criteria
    existed in the LPD manual, and Officers Jewkes and Tubbs followed them. The first
    Sanders prong is therefore satisfied. 3
    3
    Neither our prior precedents, nor our decision today, condone bad faith or
    arbitrary impoundment policies designed to evade stricter local law. In Sanders we
    explained the second prong of the test guards against such bad faith or arbitrary
    impoundment policies: our rule that “all community-caretaking impoundments [must] be
    supported by a reasonable, non-pretextual justification . . . ensures that even if the police
    were to adopt a standardized policy of impounding all vehicles whose owners receive
    traffic citations, such impoundments could be invalidated as unreasonable under our
    precedent.” 796 F.3d at 1249–50; see also United States v. Pappas, 
    735 F.2d 1232
    , 1233,
    1234 (10th Cir. 1984) (affirming district court’s grant of motion to suppress after a
    vehicle was impounded from a private lot pursuant to a policy that “requires the
    impounding of any vehicle whenever an arrest takes place, regardless of the
    circumstances”). The standardized criteria prong, however, serves a distinct purpose—
    limiting the discretion of the officer on the scene.
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    B. Community-Caretaking Rationale
    The second prong of the Sanders test requires impoundments by law enforcement
    to be justified by a “reasonable, non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale.” 796
    F.3d at 1248. This second prong is primarily derived from Opperman, which established
    that warrantless impoundments may be constitutional when “required by the
    community-caretaking functions of protecting public safety and promoting the efficient
    movement of traffic.” Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1245; see also Opperman, 
    428 U.S. at 369
    (“The authority of police to seize and remove from the streets vehicles impeding traffic or
    threatening public safety and convenience is beyond challenge.”).
    This court identified in Sanders five non-exclusive factors that courts use to
    determine whether an impoundment is justified by such a reasonable, non-pretextual
    community-caretaking rationale:
    (1) whether the vehicle is on public or private property; (2) if on private
    property, whether the property owner has been consulted; (3) whether an
    alternative to impoundment exists (especially another person capable of
    driving the vehicle); (4) whether the vehicle is implicated in a crime; and
    (5) whether the vehicle’s owner and/or driver have consented to the
    impoundment.
    Id. at 1250. We review each factor in turn before weighing them de novo.
    Factor One: Public or Private Property
    The first Sanders factor weighs against impoundment because the vehicle was
    located on a private motel parking lot. Public safety and convenience are less likely to be
    at risk when the vehicle is located on private property as opposed to public property.
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    Thus, as we explained in Sanders, the Fourth Amendment imposes “heightened
    requirements on police who seize vehicles from private property.” Id. at 1249.
    Accordingly, the district court erred in concluding that a vehicle’s location on
    private property is not a “strong factor.” ROA Vol. 5 at 147. The district court apparently
    reasoned, as the government does on appeal, that Sanders applies only to private property
    impoundments, and thus the first factor will always be satisfied. Id. (“I don’t think that in
    and of itself [the first factor] is a strong factor, because if it were, Sanders would be a
    pretty easy case to follow.”); Aple. Br. at 31 (“The district court properly observed this
    factor is not a strong one given that Sanders provides the test for constitutional private
    property impoundments.”) (internal citations and quotations omitted).
    The district court and the government misunderstand the nature of our holding in
    Sanders. The first prong of Sanders is indeed specific to private property impoundments.
    In Sanders, we held that “impoundment of a vehicle located on private property . . . is
    constitutional only if justified by both a standardized policy and a reasonable,
    non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale.” 796 F.3d at 1248 (emphasis added). The
    factors describing community-caretaking functions under the second prong of Sanders,
    however, apply to “all community-caretaking impoundments.” Id. at 1249 (emphasis
    added).
    A legitimate rationale is always required, whether on private or public property,
    because “[p]rotection against unreasonable impoundments, even those conducted
    pursuant to a standardized policy, is part and parcel of the Fourth Amendment’s
    guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures.” Id. at 1250. Thus, Sanders applies
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    to both private and public property impoundments to the extent it describes when
    impoundment is consistent with a reasonable and legitimate, non-pretextual
    community-caretaking rationale. And, as we and other circuits have recognized, such a
    rationale is less likely to exist where the vehicle is located on private property. See id. at
    1249 (collecting cases). Accordingly, here, not only does the first factor weigh against
    impoundment, the first factor is entitled to more than “little weight.”
    In sum, the first factor weighs against finding the impoundment of Venezia’s
    vehicle was justified by a legitimate community-caretaking rationale.
    Factor Two: Consulting the Private Property Owner
    The second Sanders factor also weighs against impoundment because the motel
    owner was never consulted. 4 As mentioned above, public safety and convenience are less
    likely to be at risk when a vehicle is located on private property. That risk is particularly
    diminished when the private property owner does not object to the vehicle’s presence.
    For these reasons, we consider the property owner’s consent, even if the property owner
    does not own the vehicle. See, e.g., Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1251 (impoundment not justified
    where “police [could have] consulted the owners of the parking lot about the vehicle
    remaining where it was”); Pappas, 
    735 F.2d at 1234
     (impoundment not justified where
    bar owner could have kept vehicle on his property until driver returned).
    Although we refer to motel “owner,” someone with authority to speak for the
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    owner—such as the motel manager or other agent—would suffice.
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    The district court erred in addressing the second factor in terms of ownership of
    the vehicle, rather than the motel owner’s interest in the parking lot itself. The district
    court apparently assigned the second factor little weight because the motel owner could
    not help the officers determine who, as the district court described it, could “speak for the
    vehicle.” ROA Vol. 5 at 148. This shows that the district court was focused on the
    ownership of the vehicle, rather than where the vehicle was parked. Yet, questions
    regarding the vehicle’s ownership, and who could speak for the vehicle, are relevant to
    the fifth Sanders factor—whether the owner consented to impoundment. And, as the
    government acknowledges, questions regarding liability for theft or vandalism are
    relevant to the third factor—whether an alternative to impoundment existed. See Aple.
    Br. at 32 (“[The motel owner’s] permission would have only been helpful to a point in
    discerning an alternative to impoundment.”).
    By contrast, the second Sanders factor goes to the private property owner’s
    enjoyment of his or her private property, i.e., whether the vehicle’s presence caused a
    nuisance. For example, the community-caretaking interest may permit officers to
    impound a vehicle that interferes with a private property owner’s use or enjoyment of
    their property. Indeed, the Code appears to contemplate this interest by authorizing police
    to impound a vehicle that “limits the normal access to use of private property without the
    express consent of the owner or person in lawful control of such property.” Lakewood,
    Colo., Mun. Code § 10.42.010(A) (2020). In this case, however, the officers could not
    have impounded Venezia’s vehicle based on the motel owner’s objection, because the
    officers failed to even consult the motel owner, or anyone who could speak for the owner.
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    In sum, the second factor also weighs against finding the impoundment of
    Venezia’s vehicle was justified by a legitimate community-caretaking rationale.
    Factor Three: Alternatives to Impoundment
    The third Sanders factor weighs against impoundment because the vehicle could
    have remained at the motel parking lot until the motel owner objected to the vehicle’s
    presence, until the officers contacted the vehicle’s registered owner, or until there was
    reason to believe the registered owner could not be contacted and the vehicle would be
    abandoned. Where an alternative to impoundment does not threaten public safety or
    convenience, impoundment is less likely to be justified by a community-caretaking
    rationale.
    Here, as the district court found, and as the government asserts, the only
    alternative to impoundment was to leave Venezia’s vehicle in the motel parking lot.
    Venezia could not speak for the vehicle, nor was there anyone else present who could do
    so. Thus, it is clear the vehicle could not have been moved. It is unclear, however, why
    the vehicle needed to be moved at all. The district court found that the vehicle was legally
    parked, was not impeding traffic, and did not pose a safety hazard. The only reason for
    impoundment provided by the district court was that the vehicle would have been left
    “where it is without protection, left in a high-crime area, where the risk of . . . vandalism,
    theft or other criminal activity . . . is high.” ROA Vol. 5 at 157. In this case, the concern
    over theft or vandalism was not reasonable for two reasons.
    First, it was not reasonable for the officers to believe that the registered owner,
    Luis Cuello, could not be contacted and that the vehicle would be abandoned. Certainly,
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    an abandoned vehicle on a public highway may be at risk of theft or vandalism, and thus
    may be impounded under the community-caretaking doctrine. See Cady, 
    413 U.S. at 447
    (holding that police lawfully impounded vehicle located on a highway, where “like an
    obviously abandoned vehicle, it represented a nuisance”). And certainly, the officers were
    unable to contact Cuello on the night of Venezia’s arrest.
    Yet, the officers could not then reasonably conclude that they would continue to
    be unable to contact Cuello. Indeed, the district court declined to find that the vehicle was
    “abandoned.” ROA Vol. 5 at 156. Nor does the record indicate that the vehicle was
    abandoned. The officers only began to contact Cuello by telephone after 9:00 P.M. 5 They
    gave up on their attempts by 9:45 P.M. at the latest, when the vehicle was impounded.
    ROA Vol. 1 at 54. The officers’ unsuccessful, late-night attempts to call Cuello do not
    establish that the vehicle would have been left at the motel indefinitely. Accordingly,
    there is no reasonable explanation for why the vehicle could not remain in the motel
    parking lot until Cuello was reached, or why the vehicle needed to be impounded
    immediately following Venezia’s arrest.
    This case is unlike United States v. Kornegay, 
    885 F.2d 713
     (10th Cir. 1989), in
    several important ways. In Kornegay, the officers did not know where the vehicle was
    5
    During the suppression hearing, one of the officers testified that “[t]here’s a
    possibility that we may have requested . . . an agency in that jurisdiction of the registered
    owner’s address to go out and physically attempt to make contact.” Id. at 66. The officer,
    however, had “no personal knowledge or evidence to show that that actually occurred,”
    id., and the district court made no finding specific to physical contact. See id. at 142.
    Accordingly, we do not consider whether the officers also attempted to physically contact
    Cuello.
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    registered. The vehicle had a Missouri license plate temporarily fastened over a Louisiana
    plate. 
    885 F.2d at 715
    . Thus, there was no way to determine who the owner was and
    whether the owner would retrieve the vehicle. Here, the officers identified the registered
    owner and had means of contacting him. Further, in Kornegay, the officers could not
    identify the driver-arrestee because the driver’s license he produced pictured someone
    else. 
    Id.
     Thus, even if the officers could determine the owner, they had no way of
    connecting the driver-arrestee to the vehicle. Here, the officers identified Venezia, and
    thus could have released the vehicle back to him once his ownership was confirmed.
    Accordingly, this case is more similar to Sanders, where we distinguished Kornegay by
    reasoning that “police knew Sanders’ identity, place of residence, the origin of her
    vehicle, and had other reasons to be assured that the vehicle would not be abandoned.”
    796 F.3d at 1251 (citing Kornegay, 
    885 F.2d at 716
    ).
    Second, even though the motel parking lot was in a “high-crime area,” the risk of
    theft or vandalism was not so imminent as to foreclose alternatives to impoundment. 6
    There was simply nothing unusual, let alone harmful to public safety or convenience, in
    6
    We do not hold that a risk must be imminent in other impoundment cases. See
    Dissent at 12. Indeed, as the dissent points out, in other cases, an impoundment may be
    justified where there is no such immediacy. 
    Id.
     at 12–13 (collecting cases). Yet,
    immediacy remains a relevant consideration in determining “whether an alternative to
    impoundment exists,” where, as here, the alternative is temporarily leaving the vehicle
    where it was found. Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1250. Just as our overarching inquiry is “the
    reasonableness of the officers’ decision in these circumstances to impound the vehicle for
    safekeeping until they could determine who owned it,” Dissent at 11, our inquiry under
    the third factor must be “the reasonableness of the alternative in these circumstances of
    leaving the vehicle at the motel until the officers could determine who owned it.”
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    leaving Venezia’s vehicle overnight in the motel parking lot. Ostensibly, doing so would
    have been no different than what the motel’s guests do on a regular basis. In contrast to
    the motel parking lot at issue here, the parking lot in Kornegay belonged to an auction
    company. 
    885 F.2d at 716
    . The risk of theft or vandalism to a particular vehicle is greater
    where, as in Kornegay, overnight parking is unusual, or where the vehicle would be out
    of place or conspicuous. 7
    Venezia’s inability to establish ownership at the time of his arrest did not make his
    proposed alternative unworkable. The proper inquiry under the third factor is “whether an
    alternative to impoundment exists” and is not focused on who suggested that alternative.
    Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1250. Because Venezia could not establish ownership at the time of
    his arrest, he could not mitigate the officers’ concerns of theft or vandalism. At the same
    time, however, Venezia’s inability to establish ownership at the time did not exacerbate
    the risk of theft or vandalism. In fact, police officers generally do not know who owns a
    parked vehicle. Accordingly, police officers generally do not impound vehicles when
    they cannot locate the vehicle’s owner at 9:00 P.M. The mere absence of a lawful owner
    does not, on its own, justify impoundment. See Pappas, 
    735 F.2d at 1234
     (“Opperman
    7
    We do not question the district court’s factual findings. See Dissent at 14. We
    credit the district court’s finding that the motel was located in a high-crime area, and that
    leaving the vehicle at the motel exposed it to the risk of theft or vandalism. We disagree,
    however, that such a risk, which was common to every car located in the area, foreclosed
    any “real alternative.” ROA Vol. 5 at 149. That the motel’s guests regularly park their
    cars overnight demonstrates such an alternative existed. And we review the district
    court’s application of Sanders de novo, rather than for clear error. Sanders, 796 F.3d at
    1243–44.
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    cannot be used to justify the automatic inventory of every car upon the arrest of its
    owner. The justifications for the rule are too carefully crafted for this to be the intent.”).
    Under the facts and circumstances of this case, leaving the vehicle in the motel
    parking lot overnight did not expose it to unnecessary risk of theft or vandalism.
    Accordingly, an alternative to impoundment existed—namely, leaving the vehicle in the
    motel parking lot until the motel owner objected, Cuello objected, or it became
    reasonable to conclude Cuello could not be contacted and the vehicle would be
    abandoned. 8
    Factor Four: Implicated in a Crime
    The fourth Sanders factor weighs against impoundment because impounding
    Venezia’s vehicle would not have provided further evidence of the traffic violations or
    outstanding warrant for which Venezia was arrested.
    Factor Five: Consent of Owner and/or Driver
    Venezia concedes this final Sanders factor “arguably favors impoundment.” Aplt.
    Br. at 12. He acknowledges that since “the officers could not determine at the time [of his
    8
    The dissent asserts that “the question here is not whether the officers . . . could
    have acted more solicitously . . . but whether their decision was, under all the
    circumstances, within the realm of reason.” Id. at 11; see also id. at 17 (“[T]he test of
    reasonableness is whether the officers’ decision was, under all the circumstances, within
    the realm of reason—not whether they needed to impound the vehicle in some absolute
    sense.”). Although not dispositive, we must consider the existence of alternatives when
    determining whether an impoundment was justified by a reasonable community-
    caretaking rationale. Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1250. Put differently, the existence of
    alternatives falls within “all the circumstances” under which we evaluate the
    reasonableness of a community-caretaking rationale.
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    arrest] that Mr. Venezia owned the vehicle, his consent or lack thereof was not terribly
    relevant to the impoundment decision. And the officers tried and failed to contact the
    vehicle’s registered owner.” Id. The fifth factor therefore weighs in favor of finding the
    impoundment was justified.
    Weighing the Factors
    To summarize: the vehicle at issue was legally parked on private property, did not
    impede traffic, and did not pose a safety hazard. The private property owner did not
    object to the vehicle’s presence. None of these facts are in dispute. Rather, the parties
    dispute whether leaving Venezia’s vehicle in the motel parking lot would have
    unnecessarily exposed it to risk of theft or vandalism.
    As discussed above, the vehicle in this case was not at unnecessary risk of theft or
    vandalism, and thus the officers lacked a reasonable community-caretaking rationale. The
    officers could not reasonably conclude that the vehicle would be unattended for a
    prolonged period of time based on their unsuccessful 9:00 P.M. attempt to call the
    vehicle’s registered owner. And the vehicle’s presence in the motel parking lot was no
    different than any other vehicle in the lot. For these two reasons, the officers’ decision to
    impound the vehicle was not guided by a reasonable community-caretaking rationale as
    required under the second Sanders prong. The officers could no more impound Venezia’s
    vehicle than they could impound any other vehicle at the motel, assuming its driver was
    unavailable and its registered owner could not be reached that night.
    It is unnecessary to decide whether the asserted community-caretaking rationale
    was also “pretextual.” In fact, in this case, the evidence of pretext is scant. Yet, we held
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    in Sanders that an asserted community-caretaking rationale must be both “reasonable”
    and “non-pretextual.” Id. at 1248. The officers in this case were attempting to rely on
    their standardized policy when impounding the vehicle. That policy, however, as
    exercised here, simply did not grant the officers authority to do what the Fourth
    Amendment forbids—to impound a vehicle absent a reasonable community-caretaking
    rationale.
    ***
    “Ascertaining whether an impoundment is justified by a reasonable and legitimate,
    non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale is not an easy task.” Sanders, 796 F.3d at
    1250. Yet, in that task, we are guided by the Supreme Court’s illustrations of the
    community-caretaking doctrine in Cady and Opperman, and this court’s enumeration of
    community-caretaking factors in Sanders. Here, reviewing the specific facts of this case
    de novo, we conclude that the impoundment was inconsistent with the Supreme Court’s
    description of the community-caretaking doctrine, and this court’s enumerated factors in
    Sanders. 9
    9
    The dissent asserts that United States v. Johnson, 
    734 F.2d 503
    , 504 (10th Cir.
    1984) (per curiam) compels us to affirm. See Dissent at 4–5. The government did not cite
    Johnson in its briefing, let alone argue for its application. And, in any event, the night
    club parking lot at issue in Johnson is easily distinguishable from the motel parking lot at
    issue in this case. So far as we are aware, motel guests are less likely to park for a few
    hours at night, and more likely to stay overnight at the premises, than night club patrons.
    Thus, the officers’ community-caretaking concerns are less reasonable here than they
    were in Johnson. The out-of-circuit cases that the dissent relies upon similarly address
    circumstances where overnight parking is less common than at motels. See, e.g., Ramirez
    v. City of Buena Park, 
    560 F.3d 1012
    , 1025 (9th Cir. 2009) (drugstore parking lot);
    United States v. Smith, 
    2005 WL 2746657
     at *4, 05-cr-257, (E.D. Pa. Oct. 24, 2005)
    (public street obstructing a bus stop), aff’d 
    522 F.3d 305
     (3d Cir. 2008); United States v.
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    III.   CONCLUSION
    For the reasons stated, we REVERSE the district court’s denial of his motion to
    suppress and REMAND with directions to VACATE Venezia’s conviction and sentence.
    Petty, 
    367 F.3d 1009
    , 1012 (8th Cir. 2004) (parking lot of a business that was closed);
    United States v. Ramos-Morales, 
    981 F.2d 625
    , 626 (1st Cir. 1992) (public street outside
    an unknown building); United States v. Staller, 
    616 F.2d 1284
    , 1290 (5th Cir. 1980) (mall
    parking lot). To say these cases addressed “similar circumstances” is generous. Dissent at
    1.
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    No. 19-1432, United States v. Venezia
    BALDOCK, Circuit Judge, dissenting.
    Until today, the Fourth Amendment permitted police officers to act as community
    caretakers and impound an arrestee’s vehicle for safekeeping when no one is available to
    take custody of it and the circumstances present the potential for theft or vandalism.
    United States v. Kornegay, 
    885 F.2d 713
    , 716 (10th Cir. 1989); United States v. Johnson,
    
    734 F.2d 503
    , 505 (10th Cir. 1984) (per curiam). To reach its contrary judgment, the
    Court flouts precedent and turns a blind eye to the numerous decisions of this Court and
    other courts upholding warrantless vehicle impoundments under similar circumstances.
    In the process, too, the Court disregards facts, ignores record evidence, and dispenses
    with our conventional rule that we do not judge the reasonableness of an officer’s
    decision with 20/20 hindsight. Unable to rely on law or facts, the Court is left to
    substitute its own speculative judgment about why the officers here could not reasonably
    conclude that leaving the to-be-determined owner’s vehicle unattended in a high-crime
    area for an undetermined length of time could subject it to theft or vandalism. Because
    this decision is contrary to both precedent and common sense, I cannot agree with it.
    ***
    Let’s start with what the Court has correct. First, the Court identifies the
    applicable standard: When a vehicle located on private property “is not impeding traffic
    or impairing public safety, impoundments are constitutional only if guided by both [1]
    standardized criteria and [2] a legitimate community-caretaking rationale.” United States
    v. Sanders, 
    796 F.3d 1241
    , 1243 (10th Cir. 2015). Second, applying that rule, the Court
    properly concludes that the officers’ decision to impound Mr. Venezia’s vehicle was
    guided by standardized criteria that cabined their discretion in performing their
    community-caretaking function.
    Third, I also agree that some of the factors we outlined in Sanders—the vehicle
    was parked on private property and was not implicated in a crime, and the officers did not
    consult with the motel owner—weigh against the reasonableness of the impoundment
    here. 
    Id. at 1250
    . But as the Court correctly points out (and its analysis illustrates), the
    five non-exclusive factors we listed in Sanders are exactly that—some things courts have
    considered when assessing the constitutionality of a warrantless vehicle impoundment.
    
    Id.
     Those factors can serve as a guide in evaluating an officer’s decision to impound a
    vehicle, but they are not the sine qua non of a reasonable community-caretaking
    rationale. Instead, “as in all Fourth Amendment cases, we are obliged to look to all the
    facts and circumstances of this case in light of the principles set forth in [our] prior
    decisions.” South Dakota v. Opperman, 
    428 U.S. 364
    , 375 (1976).
    Where I part ways with the Court is at the next question: Under the particular
    circumstances Officers Tubbs and Jewkes encountered, did they have a reasonable, non-
    pretextual reason for impounding Mr. Venezia’s vehicle? Short answer: Yes.
    My analysis, of course, begins with the facts of this case. The district court
    determined that the officers made a lawful traffic stop and properly arrested Mr. Venezia
    on an outstanding warrant. Mr. Venezia was the driver and sole occupant of the vehicle.
    He did not have a driver’s license—which the officers determined had been revoked—
    registration for the vehicle, car insurance, title to the vehicle, a bill of sale, or anything
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    else to suggest he owned the vehicle. When asked about the vehicle’s registered owner,
    Mr. Venezia said he did not recognize the name. The officers attempted to contact the
    registered owner of the vehicle, but they were unsuccessful. Based on credible officer
    testimony, the district court found that Mr. Venezia’s vehicle was parked in a motel
    parking lot located in a high-crime area. These findings are not clearly erroneous.
    United States v. Cortez, 
    965 F.3d 827
    , 833 (10th Cir. 2020) (explaining that we view the
    evidence in the light most favorable to the government, accept the district court’s factual
    findings unless they are clearly erroneous, and review legal conclusions de novo).
    Given these circumstances, the officers could reasonably infer that the vehicle
    might be the subject of theft, vandalism, or other damage if left on the premises without a
    responsible custodian. Because no third party was available to entrust with the vehicle’s
    safekeeping, the officers also could not be certain how long the vehicle would be
    vulnerable to criminal activity in Mr. Venezia’s absence. Even if Mr. Venezia did not
    expect to be in custody long, he would not have been able to operate the vehicle himself
    on release due to his revoked license. Nor did Mr. Venezia have authority to direct
    someone to take custody of the vehicle or move it on his behalf because he was unable to
    establish his ownership.
    To be sure, the officers had strong reason to doubt Mr. Venezia was lawfully in
    possession of the vehicle. And, resisting “the temptation of offering critiques with the
    20/20 vision of hindsight,” they also had good reason to believe it might take several
    days, if not longer, to figure out who owned the vehicle. See United States v. Harris, 735
    
    3 F.3d 1187
    , 1191 (10th Cir. 2013) (Gorsuch, J.) (internal quotation marks omitted).
    Specifically, the district court found Mr. Venezia had driven the vehicle
    with the [license] plates on the inside, [was] beading sweat, when being . . .
    spoken to by police, [wa]s unable to produce [a] driver’s license, registration,
    insurance, bill of sale[,] or anything else[. He] simply sa[id] that he bought
    the car recently, but couldn’t get it insured or registered because of the
    holidays, [which] is not much of an explanation, and certainly not one that
    would be unreasonable for the police to refuse to accept at face value.
    ROA, Vol. V at 147–48.
    At bottom, the officers had two options following Mr. Venezia’s arrest: leave the
    vehicle where it was or impound it. By choosing the second option and transporting the
    to-be-determined owner’s vehicle to a secure location, the officers ensured the vehicle
    was not left unattended in a high-crime area for an undetermined length of time, during
    which it could have been stolen or damaged. That was a reasonable choice under the
    circumstances. And, as the Court recognizes, nothing in the record suggests the officers
    acted in bad faith or solely for the purpose of investigation in exercising their discretion
    to impound the vehicle. Thus, as the district court concluded, the officers’ decision to
    impound Mr. Venezia’s vehicle was guided by a reasonable, non-pretextual community-
    caretaking rationale.
    Our precedent compels us to affirm. In United States v. Johnson, for example, the
    police impounded the defendant’s vehicle for safekeeping after arresting him on
    suspicion of being in actual control of an automobile while intoxicated. 
    734 F.2d at 504
    .
    The vehicle was legally parked in the parking lot of a night club, where it posed no
    hazard to public safety or convenience. See 
    id.
     We held that the impoundment was “an
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    appropriate exercise of the ‘community caretaking functions’ which the police have a
    responsibility to discharge” because (1) the defendant was unable to move the vehicle
    and (2) the officers were concerned about vandalism. 
    Id. at 505
     (quoting Opperman, 
    428 U.S. at
    368–69, and Cady v. Dombrowski, 
    413 U.S. 433
    , 441 (1973)).
    The exact same factors are applicable here. Yet the Court suggests that we should
    ignore on-point precedent because the government did not cite Johnson in its brief.
    Majority Op. at 21 n.9. We, as neutral arbiters, “rely on the parties to frame the issues for
    decision.” Colorado v. EPA, 
    989 F.3d 874
    , 885 (10th Cir. 2021) (quoting United States
    v. Sineneng-Smith, 
    140 S. Ct. 1575
    , 1579 (2020)). But “[w]hen an issue or claim is
    properly before the court,” it “retains the independent power to identify and apply the
    proper construction of governing law.” United States v. Guidry, 
    199 F.3d 1150
    , 1159 n.5
    (10th Cir. 1999) (quoting United States Nat’l Bank v. Independent Ins. Agents of Am.,
    Inc., 
    508 U.S. 439
    , 446 (1993)). If the majority wishes to decide this case “according to a
    truncated body of law, [it] should refrain from issuing an opinion that could reasonably
    be understood by lower courts and nonparties to establish binding circuit precedent on the
    issue decided.” See Kamen v. Kemper Fin. Servs., Inc., 
    500 U.S. 90
    , 100 n.5 (1991); see
    also United States v. Sabillon-Umana, 
    772 F.3d 1328
    , 1334 n.1 (10th Cir. 2014) (“In
    cases of conflicting circuit precedent our court follows earlier, settled precedent over a
    subsequent deviation therefrom.” (Gorsuch, J.) (cleaned up)).
    Perhaps recognizing as much, the Court goes on to say that Johnson is inapposite
    because that case involved a night club parking lot and this case involves a motel parking
    lot. But given the facts here, that is a distinction without a difference. The Court ignores
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    that the police had fielded “significant high-priority calls for service,” including
    S.W.A.T. calls, at the motel where the vehicle was parked. ROA, Vol. V at 47. It also
    disregards that vehicle trespasses and thefts often occurred in the “very immediate area”
    where the motel and its parking lot were located. 
    Id. at 54
    . What’s more, the officers in
    Johnson had no reason to question the defendant’s ownership of his vehicle, which
    presumably was properly registered and insured. Because my colleagues cannot explain
    why the officers in Johnson acted reasonably but the officers here did not, it appears they
    have resorted to implicitly overruling precedent.
    A few years later, in United States v. Kornegay, we reaffirmed that theft and
    vandalism are legitimate community-caretaking concerns even when a vehicle is legally
    parked on private property and poses no hazard to public safety or convenience. There
    the officers arrested the defendant while he was inside an auction house attempting to
    collect proceeds from the sale of two stolen tractors. 
    885 F.2d at 715
    . The officers
    impounded the defendant’s vehicle, which he had parked in the auction company’s
    private lot, and conducted an inventory search of its contents. 
    Id.
     The defendant argued
    there was no need to impound his vehicle because it was legally parked in a private lot, it
    was not blocking traffic, the auction company had not requested its removal, and his
    refusal to consent relieved the officers of any potential liability for failure to protect his
    property. 
    Id.
     We rejected those arguments and held that the impoundment was
    reasonable because the defendant’s true identity and place of residence were unknown;
    the defendant “was alone, and there was no friend, relative or companion who could be
    asked to care for the car”; “the vehicle was not parked on [the defendant’s] property”; he
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    was unlikely to return soon to take care of the vehicle; and leaving the vehicle in the
    auction company’s lot “could have subjected it to vandalism or theft.” 
    Id. at 716
    .
    As in Kornegay, Mr. Venezia’s vehicle was parked in a private lot, it was not
    blocking traffic, and the owner of the lot had not requested its removal. After the officers
    arrested Mr. Venezia, no one else was present or promptly available who could move the
    vehicle or take custody of it. The officers “did not know where the vehicle was from,”
    and leaving it in the motel parking lot “could have subjected it to vandalism or theft.”
    See 
    id.
     Yet, once again, the Court fails to explain why the agents in Kornegay acted
    reasonably but the officers here did not.
    The officers’ decision to impound Mr. Venezia’s vehicle not only falls within the
    scope of Johnson and Kornegay but is also consistent with many precedents of our sister
    circuits finding police impoundment to protect a vehicle from theft or vandalism
    reasonable. See, e.g., Ramirez v. City of Buena Park, 
    560 F.3d 1012
    , 1019, 1025 (9th
    Cir. 2009) (holding impoundment of a vehicle legally parked in a drugstore parking lot a
    little over a mile from the defendant’s home was justified because (1) there was “nothing
    in the record indicating when [the defendant] could return to the drugstore to retrieve his
    car” and (2) “[l]eaving [the defendant’s] car in the drugstore parking lot would have
    made it an easy target for vandalism or theft”); United States v. Smith, 
    522 F.3d 305
    ,
    314–15 (3d Cir. 2008) (concluding that officers reasonably impounded a vehicle when no
    one was available to take custody of it, they did not know who owned it, and the vehicle
    was parked in an area where “vehicles were subject to being damaged, vandalized, or
    stolen”); United States v. Petty, 
    367 F.3d 1009
    , 1011–13 (8th Cir. 2004) (upholding
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    decision to impound a vehicle legally parked in a private lot in an area known for
    narcotics and prostitution because the officers were concerned about theft or damage);
    United States v. Ramos-Morales, 
    981 F.2d 625
    , 626–27 (1st Cir. 1992) (Breyer, J.)
    (upholding impoundment of a vehicle legally parked in a residential neighborhood based
    on concerns about theft and vandalism); United States v. Staller, 
    616 F.2d 1284
    , 1290
    (5th Cir. 1980) (finding impoundment reasonable when the arrestee’s vehicle was legally
    parked in a private lot but no one was immediately available to take custody of it and
    leaving it parked overnight presented an “appreciable risk of vandalism or theft”).
    The Supreme Court itself has also suggested that preventing theft or vandalism is a
    legitimate community-caretaking reason to impound a vehicle. In Colorado v. Bertine,
    the Supreme Court cited with approval a police policy that prohibited parking and
    locking a vehicle rather than impounding it “where there is reasonable risk of damage or
    vandalism to the vehicle.” 
    479 U.S. 367
    , 376 n.7 (1987). The policy not only
    “circumscribe[d] the discretion of individual officers,” the Court explained, but “also
    protect[ed] the vehicle and its contents and minimize[d] claims of property loss.” 
    Id.
    Given the law and the facts, it’s unsurprising that this Court is unable to explain
    why this case doesn’t meet our community-caretaking standard. The Court gives two
    reasons for reaching this conclusion, and neither of them withstands scrutiny.
    First, the Court tries to distinguish Kornegay and liken this case to Sanders by
    pointing out that the officers had identified Mr. Venezia and could have released the
    vehicle back to him once his ownership was confirmed. I admire my colleagues’ attempt
    to treat like cases alike, as that may be the first and most prosaic duty of the judge. But
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    the problem with the Court’s argument is that the circumstances in Sanders—and in our
    related precedents in which we have held impoundments unconstitutional—were
    meaningfully different from those present here. In fact, the critical distinctions between
    those cases and this one provide additional support for the conclusion that Officers Tubbs
    and Jewkes reasonably carried out their community-caretaking duty.
    In Sanders, the officers did not have to concern themselves with identifying the
    owner of the vehicle, which presumably was properly registered and insured, because
    they believed the defendant owned it. 796 F.3d at 1243, 1251. Although the defendant
    told the officers she would have someone pick up her vehicle on her behalf, and her
    companion offered to find someone to pick it up for her, the police impounded the
    vehicle. Id. at 1251. Under these circumstances—particularly because the defendant
    expressed a willingness to accept the risk of a break-in—we determined the officers’
    concerns about theft and vandalism were unreasonable, pretextual, and therefore could
    not justify the impoundment. Id. at 1251 & n.2.
    Similarly, in United States v. Pappas, the officers had no reason to question the
    defendant’s ownership of his vehicle, which presumably was properly registered and
    insured. 
    735 F.2d 1232
    , 1233–34 (10th Cir. 1984). Nor did the officers raise any
    concern that leaving the vehicle in the parking lot of a local bar could have subjected it to
    theft or vandalism. See 
    id.
     To the contrary, the district court’s factual findings suggest
    the vehicle likely would have been safe in the local bar’s parking lot because the
    defendant was “a well known person in the community” and his family lived nearby. See
    
    id. at 1234
    . The district court also found that other unpursued, yet readily available,
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    alternatives to impoundment existed. 
    Id.
     Specifically, the defendant’s friends were
    present and might have taken custody of the vehicle if asked, and the defendant’s family
    could have been called to pick up the vehicle. 
    Id.
     On these facts, we agreed with the
    district court that the impoundment was unreasonable. 
    Id.
    Unlike Sanders and Pappas, where the defendants were lawfully in possession of
    their vehicles, and clear and promptly available alternatives to impoundment were
    present, Mr. Venezia had no means of ensuring prompt removal of his vehicle from the
    motel parking lot. Cf. Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1245 (recognizing that in Kornegay we
    “distinguished Pappas on the basis that Pappas’ associates had ample opportunities to
    retrieve his vehicle”). The panel cites no case in which this Court or any other court has
    deemed an impoundment unreasonable when the vehicle’s ownership was uncertain, no
    third party could take custody of the vehicle, and leaving the vehicle unattended could
    have subjected it to theft or vandalism. Indeed, this Court has repeatedly upheld
    impoundments as reasonable when either the vehicle’s occupants were unable to show
    ownership at the time of the arrest or no third party was available to take custody of the
    vehicle. United States v. Trujillo, --- F.3d ---, No. 19-2212, 
    2021 WL 1257759
    , at *5
    (10th Cir. Apr. 6, 2021) (collecting cases); see also United States v. Hannum, 55 F.
    App’x 872, 873, 876 (10th Cir. 2003) (unpublished) (upholding impoundment of a
    vehicle legally parked in a private lot under the community-caretaking doctrine because
    the defendant could not produce proper registration or proof of insurance).
    In light of our prior decisions, Mr. Venezia’s inability to establish ownership of
    the vehicle at the time of his arrest weighs strongly in favor of finding the impoundment
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    constitutional. After Mr. Venezia surrendered control over the vehicle, the officers were
    faced with the choice either of transporting the to-be-determined owner’s property to a
    secure location or of leaving it vulnerable to theft and vandalism. Contrary to the Court’s
    suggestion, the officers were not obligated to conduct a more exhaustive investigation of
    potential custodians following Mr. Venezia’s arrest. Nor were they required to wait until
    the vehicle was abandoned before impounding it. As the Supreme Court said in Bertine:
    “The real question is not what could have been achieved, but whether the Fourth
    Amendment requires such steps . . . [.] The reasonableness of any particular
    governmental activity does not necessarily or invariably turn on the existence of
    alternative less intrusive means.” 
    479 U.S. at 374
     (cleaned up)). In short, I am aware of
    no precedent that would question the reasonableness of the officers’ decision in these
    circumstances to impound the vehicle for safekeeping until they could determine who
    owned it.
    Second, the Court says the officers acted unreasonably because leaving Mr.
    Venezia’s vehicle in the motel parking lot would not have exposed it to an “unnecessary”
    risk of theft or vandalism. Majority Op. at 19. But the question here is not whether the
    officers needed to impound the vehicle in some absolute sense or could have acted more
    solicitously—as the majority suggests—but whether their decision was, under all the
    circumstances, within the realm of reason. Bertine, 
    479 U.S. at 374
    . When the issue is
    framed correctly, the answer (once again) is yes.
    The main problem with the Court’s argument is factual. We must read the record
    favorably to the government and defer to the district court’s factual findings unless they
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    are clearly erroneous. Cortez, 965 F.3d at 833. Officer Tubbs testified that the police
    had fielded “significant high-priority calls for service,” including S.W.A.T. calls, at the
    motel where the vehicle was parked. ROA, Vol. V at 47. He also explained that vehicle
    trespasses and thefts often occurred in the “very immediate area” where the motel and its
    parking lot were located. Id. at 54. The district court credited this testimony and found
    that the motel parking lot was in a high-crime area. Id. at 140, 145. This finding of fact
    is not clearly erroneous. Cortez, 965 F.3d at 833.
    When the district court’s factual findings and the record evidence are properly
    considered, it is hard to make a plausible argument that the circumstances encountered by
    the officers did not present “the potential for theft or vandalism.” See Kornegay, 
    885 F.2d at 716
    . Still, the Court argues that the officers acted unreasonably because the risk
    of theft or vandalism was not “so imminent” as to require immediate impoundment.
    Majority Op. at 17. That view is as mistaken as it is novel.
    The Court cites no authority to support its theory that the risk of theft or vandalism
    is sufficient to justify an impoundment only when that risk is “imminent” under the
    circumstances. 
    Id.
     Such a requirement is nowhere to be found in any of our precedents.
    What’s more, several of this Court’s unpublished decisions upholding impoundments as
    reasonable based on officer concerns about theft or vandalism are inconsistent with an
    imminent-risk requirement. See, e.g., Hackett v. Artesia Police Dep’t, 379 F. App’x 789,
    793 (10th Cir. 2010) (Briscoe, J.) (holding that, “[u]nder the community caretaking
    doctrine, concerns about theft or vandalism [were] sufficient to justify impoundment”
    after the officer issued a citation for driving a vehicle with an expired license plate and
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    the defendant “could not produce a valid driver’s license, registration, or proof of
    insurance”; and rejecting arguments that “it was unnecessary to impound the vehicle
    because it was parked in a store parking lot, and thus neither impeded traffic nor affected
    the public safety,” and that the officer should have allowed the defendant to call a friend
    to remove the vehicle on a car trailer); United States v. Walker, 81 F. App’x 294, 297
    (10th Cir. 2003) (upholding impoundment of a vehicle parked in a private lot where the
    defendant “was alone at the time of his arrest, there was no one immediately available to
    move his car to a safe location,” and “the vehicle was located in area where it could have
    inhibited business or been subject to theft or vandalism”); United States v. Andas-
    Gallardo, 3 F. App’x 959, 963–64 (10th Cir. 2001) (finding impoundment reasonable
    when there was no evidence about how long it might take the defendant or his family to
    retrieve the vehicle or how safe it would be if left unattended, although the vehicle was
    properly registered, lawfully parked in a private lot, and did not pose a public hazard or
    nuisance). The Court acknowledges as much, yet brushes aside this inconsistency. See
    Majority Op. at 17 n.6.
    Whatever other problems lurk in the Court’s line of reasoning, it rests on at least
    one other faulty premise. The Court speculates that the “risk of theft or vandalism to a
    particular vehicle is greater where, as in Kornegay, overnight parking is unusual, or
    where the vehicle would be out of place or conspicuous.” Majority Op. at 18. According
    to the Court, the motel parking lot in this case was a safe haven for unattended vehicles
    because “the motel’s guests regularly park their cars overnight” there. 
    Id.
     Thus, says the
    Court, a reasonable alternative to impoundment existed. Because no legal authority or
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    factual basis in the record—such as whether cars were regularly parked overnight at this
    motel—supports this argument, it’s unsurprising that Mr. Venezia never made it.
    In any event, the Court’s argument is flawed for a more fundamental reason: it
    dispenses with our obligation to view the evidence in the light most favorable to the
    government and defer to the district court’s factual findings. Cortez, 965 F.3d at 833.
    It’s unclear from the opinion in Kornegay what evidence supported the reasonableness of
    the officers’ concerns about theft and vandalism, or whether the district court made any
    factual findings about the safety of the area where the auction company’s parking lot was
    located. See 
    885 F.2d at 716
    . But what we do know is that the district court here made
    such factual findings based on credible testimony that the motel parking lot was in a
    high-crime area where vehicle trespasses and thefts often occurred. And on those facts, it
    strains credulity to say that the officers unreasonably believed that leaving “the vehicle in
    the [motel’s] parking lot—a lot open to the public—could have subjected it to vandalism
    or theft.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis added).
    The Court fails to explain how the presence of other vehicles in the motel parking
    lot extinguished the reasonableness of the officers’ determination that leaving the to-be-
    determined owner’s vehicle in a high-crime area where vehicle trespasses and thefts often
    occurred was not a prudent alternative. Such risks are dependent on the character of the
    parking lot and the propensity for vehicle theft and vandalism in the area—not on the
    number of nearby targets. After all, the odds of a car being stolen or vandalized are less
    when it is parked by itself in a remote area with a low rate of vehicle trespass than when
    it is parked in an area where vehicle trespasses and thefts often occur.
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    The Court also fails to cite a single case suggesting that the officers unreasonably
    impounded Mr. Venezia’s vehicle because it was parked in a location where overnight
    parking is typical. I am aware of no authority for such a proposition. To the contrary,
    we—along with other courts—have regularly upheld impoundments under similar
    circumstances when a vehicle, if left unattended following the driver’s arrest, would not
    have been out of place or conspicuous. See, e.g., United States v. Martin, 
    566 F.2d 1143
    ,
    1144–45 (10th Cir. 1977) (upholding impoundment of vehicle legally parked on a
    residential street when the defendant, who had just been placed under arrest for public
    intoxication, “was in no condition to drive his vehicle” and the other vehicle occupant
    had been arrested for carrying a concealed weapon); Ramos-Morales, 981 F.2d at 626–27
    (holding that concerns about theft and vandalism justified impoundment, and rejecting
    the defendant’s argument that the police acted unreasonably because the vehicle would
    not have been “out of place” where it was legally parked on a residential street “just
    outside his home”); United States v. Brown, 
    787 F.2d 929
    , 931–32 (4th Cir. 1986)
    (concluding that the police reasonably impounded a vehicle legally parked in a private lot
    that serviced nearby apartments, and rejecting the defendant’s argument that the officer
    should have left the car in the custody of his girlfriend who lived in an apartment building
    adjoining the lot); United States v. Cauthen, 
    669 F. Supp. 2d 629
    , 633–37 (M.D.N.C.
    2009) (finding that the police reasonably impounded a vehicle for the purpose of
    protecting it after the defendant’s arrest, and rejecting the defendant’s argument that the
    officers should have left his vehicle in the motel’s private parking lot where it was legally
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    parked). The Court does not address those decisions—let alone explain what
    distinguishes this case.
    Make no mistake. Officers Tubbs and Jewkes could have ignored Mr. Venezia’s
    inability to establish ownership of the vehicle, brushed aside their concerns about theft
    and vandalism, and left the vehicle parked in a high-crime area (with its attendant
    consequences). But given the circumstances they encountered, leaving the to-be-
    determined owner’s vehicle in the motel parking park was not a prudent alternative.
    While I will not go so far as to suggest that the officers would have been irresponsible if
    they had not removed the vehicle for safekeeping, a legitimate argument could be made
    that they would have been. Thus, the third Sanders factor—“whether an alternative to
    impoundment exists (especially another person capable of driving the vehicle)”—weighs
    in favor of impoundment. 796 F.3d at 1250 (emphasis added). And when that factor,
    along with the others, is considered in light of the totality of the circumstances and our
    prior decisions, the impoundment here certainly was reasonable.
    At bottom, the officers’ decision to act as community caretakers and impound the
    to-be-determined owner’s vehicle for safekeeping rather than leave it unattended in an
    area where vehicle trespasses and thefts often occurred was not unreasonable under the
    Fourth Amendment. The Court’s contrary conclusion is simply wrong.
    ***
    I have great admiration for my two distinguished colleagues in the majority. And
    I recognize that determining whether an impoundment is guided by a reasonable, non-
    pretextual community-caretaking rationale is not always an “easy task.” Id. But in my
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    view, this decision jumps the rails. To rule as it does, this Court bypasses precedent,
    jettisons the district court’s factual findings, and ignores record evidence. Along the way,
    it rejects the longstanding principle that the test of reasonableness is whether the officers’
    decision was, under all the circumstances, within the realm of reason—not whether they
    needed to impound the vehicle in some absolute sense. This distortion of our
    community-caretaking standard does not advance the purposes of the Fourth Amendment
    or further respect for the Constitution. And neither caselaw nor common sense can
    sustain it.
    Respectfully, I dissent.
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