United States v. Pulham ( 2018 )


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    United States Court of Appeals
    Tenth Circuit
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS                   May 24, 2018
    Elisabeth A. Shumaker
    TENTH CIRCUIT
    Clerk of Court
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff - Appellee
    v.                                                       No. 16-8019
    (D.C. No. 1:15-CR-00136-NDF-1)
    JC CHRISTOPHER PULHAM,                                    (D. Wyo.)
    Defendant - Appellant.
    ORDER AND JUDGMENT *
    Before HARTZ, BALDOCK, and HOLMES, Circuit Judges.
    Defendant-Appellant JC Christopher Pulham pleaded guilty to one count of
    possession of child pornography, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2252A(a)(5)(B) and
    (b)(2), and was sentenced to ninety-seven months’ imprisonment. He now appeals
    from the district court’s sentencing order on two grounds, both related to the
    court’s application of a five-level enhancement under § 2G2.2(b)(5) of the United
    States Sentencing Guidelines (the “Guidelines” or “U.S.S.G.”) for “a pattern of
    activity involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of a minor.” First, Mr. Pulham
    *
    This order and judgment is not binding precedent except under the
    doctrines of law of the case, res judicata, and collateral estoppel. It may be cited,
    however, for its persuasive value consistent with Fed. R. App. P. 32.1 and 10th
    Cir. R. 32.1.
    argues that the district court committed plain legal error in applying the
    enhancement because the facts upon which the district court relied do not satisfy
    the Guidelines definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation.” Second, Mr. Pulham
    argues that the district court committed clear error in finding that he qualified for
    § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s enhancement because the court relied on hearsay-laden facts that
    did not bear the requisite indicia of reliability. Exercising jurisdiction pursuant to
    18 U.S.C. § 3742(a) and 28 U.S.C. § 1291, we affirm the court’s sentencing order.
    I
    A
    On June 16, 2015, law enforcement agents assigned to the Wyoming Internet
    Crimes Against Children Task Force (“ICAC”) executed a search warrant at Mr.
    Pulham’s residence where they seized a desktop computer containing images of
    child pornography. Mr. Pulham admitted to owning the computer and using it to
    search for and download child pornography.
    On July 22, 2015, Mr. Pulham was charged by indictment with possession of
    child pornography, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2252A(a)(5)(B) and (b)(2) (Count
    One), and receipt of child pornography, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2252A(a)(2)(A)
    (Count Two). On December 11, 2015, as part of a plea agreement, the government
    dropped Count Two (i.e., receipt), and Mr. Pulham pleaded guilty to Count One
    (i.e., possession).
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    B
    A United States probation officer completed a Presentence Report (“PSR”)
    that specified a Guidelines base offense level of eighteen for Mr. Pulham’s
    violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2252A(a)(5)(B) and (b)(2).1 The PSR arrived at a final
    adjusted offense level of thirty-five based on a number of enhancements, including
    a five-level enhancement for “a pattern of activity involving the sexual abuse or
    exploitation of a minor” (that is, the “pattern-of-activity” enhancement), pursuant
    to § 2G2.2(b)(5) of the Guidelines.
    The PSR recommended this enhancement based on a finding that Mr. Pulham
    had “at least three hands-on victims in Utah.” Aplt.’s App., Vol. II, at 20. More
    specifically, the PSR recounted allegations made in the late 1980s by two young
    girls claiming that Mr. Pulham had sexually abused them and another young girl.
    Specifically, Mr. Pulham’s half-sister, C.P., had accused him of forcing her and her
    younger sister, S.J., to engage in sexual intercourse with him. However, a medical
    examination of both girls shortly after the accusation revealed that neither of them
    had ever had intercourse. The doctor who conducted the examination nevertheless
    concluded that C.P. had been “fondled repeatedly.” 
    Id. The third
    alleged victim,
    J.H., a family friend, accused Mr. Pulham of forcing her to strip and then
    1
    The probation officer used the 2015 edition of the Guidelines in preparing
    the PSR. Mr. Pulham does not object to this decision on appeal and, therefore, we also
    rely on this edition in resolving the issues in this case.
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    “grabb[ing] her between the legs and fondl[ing] her breasts.” 
    Id. at 21.
    The conduct described in the PSR was obtained from records
    contemporaneously detailing the allegations that were filed with the Utah
    Department of Human Services (“DHS”) and Utah Child Protective Services
    (“CPS”). The PSR specifically stated the following regarding the predicate
    conduct supporting the pattern-of-activity enhancement:
    Records from the [DHS] indicate that his sister, 13-year-old
    [C.P.], told her mother the defendant “raped” her and her
    six-year-old sister, [S.J.]. Interviews were conducted with both
    [C.P.] and [S.J.]. [C.P.] said she remembered being victimized as
    early as age 6, but primarily between the ages of 8–10 years old.
    She said he had full sexual intercourse with her, but a medical
    interview with a doctor revealed she was not a victim of sexual
    intercourse, but was fondled repeatedly. She also described an
    event when the defendant and a friend . . . were locked in the
    defendant’s bedroom with [S.J.]. [C.P.] tried to get the door open,
    but had to summon her father’s assistance. When she was able to
    ask [S.J.] what happened, [S.J.] said they made her take her
    clothes off.
    Another victim was [J.H.]. The [H] family and the defendant’s
    family attended LDS church together, and the families lived near
    each other. [J.H.’s] mother advised [CPS] that [J.H.] was visiting
    the Pulham home, when JC [Pulham] asked her to remove her
    clothing. He was 15 and she was age 10. He grabbed her between
    the legs and fondled her breasts. She ran home, and her mother
    did not let her go to the Pulham residence any more. This event
    was reported on March 3, 1988.
    
    Id. at 20–21.
    Later in the PSR, the probation officer stated that he had spoken with
    C.P. “who verified that she, her sister [S.J.], and a friend, [J.H.], had been
    victimized sexually by the defendant.” 
    Id. at 23.
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    Mr. Pulham, through his counsel, sent a letter to the probation officer
    objecting to the five-level pattern-of-activity enhancement, arguing that the
    allegations were not sufficiently reliable to support the enhancement. Mr. Pulham
    also noted that he had consistently denied the allegations and that they did not
    result in a formal prosecution or delinquency petition. The probation officer
    declined to remove the recommended pattern-of-activity enhancement from the
    PSR, citing Mr. Pulham’s placement in a behavioral treatment facility following the
    allegations and also C.P.’s confirmation of the allegations.
    C
    The district court held a sentencing hearing on February 18, 2016. The bulk
    of the hearing was devoted to Mr. Pulham’s objection to the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement. Mr. Pulham’s stepfather, Terry Pulham,2 and his younger half-sister,
    S.J., testified on behalf of Mr. Pulham in an attempt to refute the allegations of
    sexual abuse in the PSR. Terry Pulham testified that he had never witnessed Mr.
    Pulham engage in any inappropriate sexual contact with his younger half-sisters.
    He also testified that Mr. Pulham was placed in a behavioral counseling center,
    Benchmark Behavioral Health, for approximately thirty days after his sister, C.P.,
    came forward with the allegations of abuse that the PSR referenced. According to
    2
    Because the defendant and his father have the same last name, when
    referring to the father by his proper name, we will use his first and last name (i.e., “Terry
    Pulham”) throughout; we will refer to the defendant as “Mr. Pulham.”
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    Terry Pulham, Mr. Pulham was sent to Benchmark for an evaluation because he
    was “acting suicidal” due to C.P.’s allegations and “to see if he had those kind of
    tendencies.” 
    Id., Vol. III,
    at 55–57.
    S.J., one of Mr. Pulham’s half sisters, briefly testified that she had no
    recollection of Mr. Pulham ever sexually abusing her when she was a child. She
    did, however, recall an incident in which her sister C.P. pulled her aside and told
    her to lie to her parents and tell them that Mr. Pulham was sexually abusing her and
    C.P. S.J. testified that she told her stepfather this fabricated story at C.P.’s
    prompting.
    The government presented testimony from Agent Reinert, a special agent
    assigned to the Wyoming ICAC, who was the lead agent in the investigation of Mr.
    Pulham. Agent Reinert testified that she had interviewed both C.P. and J.H. by
    telephone in the runup to the sentencing hearing and that they had provided
    statements about Mr. Pulham’s alleged sexual abuse, albeit statements not made
    under oath. C.P. told Agent Reinert that her relationship with Mr. Pulham had
    been “very sexually charged” and that childhood games with him would often take
    on a “sexual slant.” 
    Id. at 70.
    She also told Agent Reinert that Mr. Pulham acted
    as a “ring leader” among his siblings and their friends and would have the children
    “act out upon one another sexually and [he would] watch for his enjoyment, or
    would offer her up to his friends for sexual purposes . . . [and] watch them perform
    together.” 
    Id. C.P. recalled
    that from the ages of four through twelve her
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    interactions with Mr. Pulham were “sexual,” and that the most egregious conduct
    he engaged in was to “spread the lips of her vagina and place his penis upon it.”
    
    Id. Furthermore, in
    testifying about C.P.’s “affect” during the interview, Agent
    Reinert stated, “She was very emotional. There were several times . . . where we’d
    have to pause and she would need to collect herself. And she was very angry.” 
    Id. at 72.
    As for J.H., Agent Reinert reported that J.H. claimed in her interview that
    Mr. Pulham had sexually abused her as a child. J.H. told Agent Reinert that Mr.
    Pulham had subjected her to significantly more abuse than the isolated incident that
    the PSR recorded. J.H. told Agent Reinert that over the course of two years Mr.
    Pulham progressed from forcing her to strip nude in front of him, to forcing her to
    perform oral sex on him, to eventually forcing her to engage in vaginal intercourse
    with him. Agent Reinert testified that J.H.’s oral “affect” reflected “[s]hock and
    disgust,” and seemingly because the subject matter of the interview was disturbing
    to J.H., also “brevity.” 
    Id. at 75.
    After hearing arguments from both counsel, the district court rejected Mr.
    Pulham’s objection to the pattern-of-activity enhancement. In an oral ruling, the
    court found it was more probable than not that Mr. Pulham had engaged in “at least
    two” instances of sexual abuse or exploitation of minors. 
    Id. at 93.
    The court
    noted that it did not find the witnesses presented by Mr. Pulham—i.e., Terry
    Pulham and S.J.—“particularly persuasive.” 
    Id. The court
    was, however,
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    persuaded by the fact that as adults C.P. and J.H. described similar misconduct by
    Mr. Pulham to Agent Reinert, and that their ages at the time of the alleged abuse
    correlated with each other and also with the images of children found on Mr.
    Pulham’s computer which formed the basis of his conviction. 
    Id. at 91.
    The district court’s exact language in reaching these sentencing findings
    bears on our resolution of this appeal and it therefore warrants reproduction here in
    salient part:
    The factors that seem persuasive to the Court in terms of the
    application of this enhancement are the—to begin with, the
    instance reported by [J.H.]. Whether that was one or more
    instances, we have someone of a particular age that correlates with
    the age of [C.P.], and it also correlates with the age of images
    found on the defendant’s computer associated with this particular
    offense. The types of conduct detailed by two separate individuals
    [i.e., C.P. and J.H.] also is similar which seems to corroborate the
    stories.
    The testimony from [Terry] Pulham and [S.J.] is a bit
    indeterminant, and it is obvious that [S.J.] has made every effort
    to search her memory and doesn’t—doesn’t remember incidents.
    That’s understandable. She was young.
    ....
    So the statements by the grown women, [J.H.] and [C.P.], the age
    that they were at correlate and it correlates with the images to
    which Mr. Pulham is attracted because of the offense conduct
    associated with child pornography. And so I believe that the—that
    it is more probable than not that the defendant engaged in a
    pattern of activity, which is at least two, involving the sexual
    abuse or exploitation of minors.
    
    Id. at 92–93.
    In announcing its decision, the court also expressly adopted the
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    PSR’s factual findings. Ultimately, it applied a three-level downward variance
    because it believed that “the additional five levels for [the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement] . . . seems particularly punitive considering the amount of years that
    have passed . . . since whatever – whatever happened back then.” 
    Id. at 112–13.
    The district court did not make any further explicit findings regarding the
    conduct or incidents it relied on to support the enhancement. Nor did the court
    state its reasoning for tacitly concluding that the conduct at issue satisfied the
    Guidelines definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation.” Notably, however, Mr.
    Pulham did not object to the absence of further factual findings or question whether
    the facts were adequate, as a matter of law, to support the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement. Mr. Pulham was sentenced to ninety-seven months’ imprisonment,
    and this timely appeal followed.
    II
    Mr. Pulham advances two primary arguments on appeal. First, he argues that
    the district court committed plain legal error in applying the enhancement because
    the facts upon which the district court relied do not satisfy the definition of “sexual
    abuse or exploitation” set forth in § 2G2.2(b)(5) of the Guidelines. Second, Mr.
    Pulham argues that the district court committed clear error in finding that he
    qualified for § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s enhancement because the court relied on hearsay-
    laden facts that did not evince the requisite indicia of reliability. Both of these
    arguments turn on Mr. Pulham’s foundational assertion that the only facts that the
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    district court relied on in applying the pattern-of-activity enhancement were the
    facts that the PSR recounted. We disagree, however, with this bedrock contention,
    and conclude instead that the district court—at least in principal part—based its
    determination regarding the pattern-of-activity enhancement on the facts adduced
    through the testimony of Agent Reinert. This disagreement with Mr. Pulham
    regarding the relevant factual universe helps to explain why we ultimately conclude
    that his two arguments on appeal are unpersuasive.
    A
    Mr. Pulham’s challenge to the pattern-of-activity enhancement “tests the
    ‘procedural reasonableness’ of his sentence, ‘which requires, among other things, a
    properly calculated Guidelines range.’” United States v. Cook, 
    550 F.3d 1292
    ,
    1295 (10th Cir. 2008) (quoting United States v. Smith, 
    534 F.3d 1211
    , 1226 (10th
    Cir. 2008)). Generally, “we review a district court’s legal interpretation of the
    Guidelines de novo and its factual findings for clear error.” 
    Smith, 534 F.3d at 1226
    . However, as to his first argument, Mr. Pulham concedes that he did not
    object to the district court’s tacit legal determination that the facts before it
    satisfied the Guidelines definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation.” The court
    necessarily had to make this determination before properly applying the pattern-of-
    activity enhancement. Accordingly, Mr. Pulham’s first argument is reviewed under
    our rigorous plain-error standard. See, e.g., United States v. Martinez-Torres, 
    795 F.3d 1233
    , 1236 (10th Cir. 2015).
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    Under the plain-error standard, (as relevant here) the forfeiting defendant
    must make a showing of “(1) error that is (2) plain, (3) affects substantial rights,
    and (4) seriously affects the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial
    proceedings.” United States v. DeChristopher, 
    695 F.3d 1082
    , 1091 (10th Cir.
    2012). “An error is ‘plain’ if it is ‘clear or obvious’ under ‘current, well-settled
    law.’” United States v. Thornburgh, 
    645 F.3d 1197
    , 1208 (10th Cir. 2011) (quoting
    United States v. Whitney, 
    229 F.3d 1296
    , 1308–09 (10th Cir. 2000)). “In general,
    for an error to be contrary to well-settled law, either the Supreme Court or this
    court must have addressed the issue.” 
    Id. (quoting United
    States v. Ruiz-Gea, 
    340 F.3d 1181
    , 1187 (10th Cir. 2003)). “But even where there is no such precedent, we
    may find plain error where the district court has engaged in a ‘clearly erroneous’
    application of statutory law.” United States v. Story, 
    635 F.3d 1241
    , 1248 (10th
    Cir. 2011) (quoting United States v. Poe, 
    556 F.3d 1113
    , 1129 (10th Cir. 2009)).
    “An error seriously affects the defendant’s substantial rights, as those terms
    are used in the plain-error test, when the defendant demonstrates ‘that there is a
    reasonable probability that, but for the error claimed, the result of the proceeding
    would have been different.’” United States v. Rosales-Miranda, 
    755 F.3d 1253
    ,
    1258 (10th Cir. 2014) (quoting United States v. Mendoza, 
    698 F.3d 1303
    , 1310
    (10th Cir. 2012)). “A reasonable probability is a probability sufficient to
    undermine confidence in the outcome.” 
    Id. (quoting United
    States v. Hasan, 
    526 F.3d 653
    , 665 (10th Cir. 2008)).
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    B
    Section 2G2.2(b)(5) of the Guidelines provides for a five-level enhancement
    if the defendant “engaged in a pattern of activity involving the sexual abuse or
    exploitation of a minor.” U.S.S.G. § 2G2.2(b)(5). The commentary to the
    Guidelines defines “pattern of activity” as “any combination of two or more
    separate instances of the sexual abuse or sexual exploitation of a minor by the
    defendant.” U.S.S.G. § 2G2.2 cmt. n.1. Sexual abuse or exploitation has a specific
    meaning as used in this context: it encompasses only conduct that would constitute
    an offense under certain enumerated federal statutes. More specifically, sexual
    abuse or exploitation includes:
    (A) conduct described in 18 U.S.C. § 2241, § 2242, § 2243, §
    2251(a)–(c), § 2251(d)(1)(B), § 2251A, § 2260(b), § 2421, § 2422,
    or § 2423; (B) an offense under state law, that would have been an
    offense under any such section if the offense had occurred within
    the special maritime or territorial jurisdiction of the United States;
    or (C) an attempt or conspiracy to commit any of the offenses
    under subdivisions (A) or (B).
    
    Id. Neither the
    PSR nor the district court in imposing sentence on Mr. Pulham
    identified which of the specific enumerated statutes applied to his alleged
    misconduct. On appeal, Mr. Pulham states that “[t]he only evident possibility,
    however, is 18 U.S.C. § 2241(c),” Aplt.’s Opening Br. at 10, and the government
    does not meaningfully contest this assertion, see Aplee.’s Resp. Br. at 15 (arguing
    that Mr. Pulham’s conduct as to C.P. and J.H. is “prohibited by 18 U.S.C. § 2241”).
    That statute prohibits “knowingly engag[ing] in a sexual act with another person
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    who has not attained the age of 12 years.” 18 U.S.C. § 2241(c). A “sexual act” is
    defined as:
    (A) contact between the penis and the vulva or the penis and the
    anus, and for purposes of this subparagraph contact involving the
    penis occurs upon penetration, however slight;
    (B) contact between the mouth and the penis, the mouth and the
    vulva, or the mouth and the anus;
    (C) the penetration, however slight, of the anal or genital opening
    of another by a hand or finger or by any object, with an intent to
    abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual
    desire of any person; or
    (D) the intentional touching, not through the clothing, of the
    genitalia of another person who has not attained the age of 16
    years with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse
    or gratify the sexual desire of any person . . . .
    18 U.S.C. § 2246(2)(A)–(D).
    C
    1
    In our view, Mr. Pulham takes an unduly narrow view of the universe of
    facts upon which the district court based its pattern-of-activity enhancement.
    According to Mr. Pulham, because the district court expressly stated that it would
    “accept the Presentence Report’s findings of fact,” Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 93, the
    court relied on only those factual findings—and no others—in reaching its ultimate
    finding that Mr. Pulham’s conduct qualified for the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement. The government disagrees. It contends that the court at least tacitly
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    relied in principal part on the facts adduced through Agent Reinert’s hearing
    testimony in applying the enhancement. We are persuaded by the government’s
    position. More specifically, we agree with the government’s assertion that “the
    statements made to Agent Reinert to which she testified at the sentencing hearing
    expand, amplify, and clarify the information contained in the PSR.” Aplee.’s Resp.
    Br. at 15–16. Contrary to Mr. Pulham’s suggestion, this is not a situation where
    the Reinert-adduced facts “‘contradicted’ the information contained in the PSR,”
    Aplt.’s Reply Br. at 3, regarding matters material to the district court’s ultimate
    finding that Mr. Pulham’s conduct qualified for the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement.3 Cf. United States v. Atencio, 
    476 F.3d 1099
    , 1106 (10th Cir. 2007)
    (holding that the district court plainly erred in adopting the PSR and its Addendum
    without resolving materially “contradictory” findings as between the two
    documents, regarding whether the defendant regularly physically abused his
    3
    Notably, though the district court expressly chose to “accept the
    Presentence Report’s findings of fact,” Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 93, that did not mean that
    its ultimate factual finding that Mr. Pulham’s conduct qualified for the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement incorporated every single subsidiary PSR factual finding, or that the court’s
    ultimate finding was not clearly informed by testimony at the sentencing hearing. In this
    regard, the PSR relied on Mr. Pulham’s alleged abuse of S.J., in finding that there were
    “at least three hands-on victims in Utah.” 
    Id., Vol. II,
    at 20. However, S.J.’s testimony at
    the sentencing hearing was—as the district court put it—“indeterminant” about such
    abuse, and accordingly, the district court’s discussion of the factors that “seem[ed]
    persuasive to the Court” in applying the enhancement did not rely on S.J. as an alleged
    victim of Mr. Pulham’s sexual abuse. 
    Id., Vol. III,
    at 92–93.
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    girlfriend), abrogated on other grounds by Irizarry v. United States, 
    553 U.S. 708
    (2008).
    As we read the record, the district court’s remarks at the sentencing hearing
    reveal that the court credited and relied (albeit tacitly) in principal part on Agent
    Reinert’s testimony in imposing the enhancement. Significantly, the court
    expressly credited “the statements by the grown women, [J.H.] and [C.P.],” Aplt.’s
    App., Vol. III, at 93, and the only source of those statements was the testimony of
    Agent Reinert. In advancing a contrary position, Mr. Pulham points to isolated
    statements that the court uttered at the sentencing hearing. For example, Mr.
    Pulham places great weight on the court’s use of the singular term “instance” in
    referring to the misconduct that J.H. reported. Mr. Pulham contends that, because
    J.H. reported multiple instances to Agent Reinert, the court must have been
    referring to the single instance described in the PSR. We are not persuaded.
    Immediately after its use of the singular term, the court acknowledged that there
    could have been more than one instance of sexual misconduct involving J.H. when
    it used the phrase, “[w]hether that was one or more instances.” 
    Id. at 92.
    Mr.
    Pulham also contends that “the court relied on what had been ‘described by the
    girls[,]’ . . . . demonstrat[ing] that its focus was the allegations recounted in the
    PSR.” Aplt.’s Reply Br. at 3 (quoting Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 93). However, as
    noted, the court later referenced “the statements by the grown women,” and,
    importantly, it did so immediately before concluding that “it [wa]s more probable
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    than not that the defendant engaged in a pattern of activity, which is at least two,
    involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors.” Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 93
    (emphasis added).
    Ultimately, the burden falls on Mr. Pulham to demonstrate error based on the
    record. The isolated comments that he identifies do little to help him carry that
    burden because, as demonstrated, each comment in the record that arguably
    suggests that the district court relied—as a matter of historical fact—solely on the
    PSR’s factual findings is met by other comments by the district court that indicate
    to the contrary. On balance, we believe the record fairly supports the conclusion
    that the district court credited the facts adduced through Agent Reinert’s testimony
    and relied on them in principal part to support the enhancement.
    Moreover, even if the isolated comments that Mr. Pulham identified caused
    us to perceive some arguable ambiguity in the record regarding the district court’s
    actions when it made its factual findings, that circumstance of arguable uncertainty
    would not avail Mr. Pulham. As explicated infra, Part D.1, there is no
    disagreement among the parties that, if the district court had relied solely on the
    facts recounted in the PSR in applying the pattern-of-activity enhancement, the
    court clearly would have committed legal error because those facts, standing alone,
    do not satisfy the definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation” under § 2G2.2(b)(5)
    of the Guidelines. Under our “background legal norms,” if there was some
    arguable ambiguity in the record regarding whether the district court had relied on
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    the PSR’s findings in this prohibited manner, we naturally would adopt an
    interpretation of the record—if we reasonably could do so—that presumed that the
    court was aware of the law and followed it. United States v. Ruiz-Terrazas, 
    477 F.3d 1196
    , 1201 (10th Cir. 2007) (“We traditionally presume, absent some
    indication in the record suggesting otherwise, that ‘[t]rial judges are presumed to
    know the law and apply it in making their decisions.’” (quoting United States v.
    Russell, 
    109 F.3d 1503
    , 1512–13 (10th Cir. 1997))); accord United States v.
    Chavez-Meza, 
    854 F.3d 655
    , 659 (10th Cir. 2017), cert. granted, --- U.S. ----, 
    138 S. Ct. 734
    (2018). That is, we would read the record as indicating that the court
    did not impermissibly rest its pattern-of-activity enhancement solely on the PSR’s
    factual findings.
    There is no “indication in the record” that applying this presumption here
    would be inappropriate. 
    Ruiz-Terrazas, 477 F.3d at 1201
    . This is especially true
    because it would be entirely reasonable—at the very least—to discern from the
    district court’s comments that it credited Agent Reinert’s testimony and relied in
    principal part on the facts adduced through that testimony in ruling that Mr.
    Pulham’s conduct qualified for the pattern-of-activity enhancement. Accordingly,
    we reject Mr. Pulham’s unduly narrow reading of the relevant factual universe
    upon which the district court based the enhancement.
    2
    We have thus rejected Mr. Pulham’s contention for why we should resolve
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    his two challenges to his sentence based on a consideration of only the PSR’s
    factual findings, viz., his contention that the district court—as a matter of historical
    fact—only relied on the PSR’s factual findings in applying the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement. However, reading his briefing with a very generous eye, we note
    that Mr. Pulham also might be advancing a legal contention for why our review of
    his challenges should be restricted to the PSR’s findings. Citing our decision in
    United States v. Underwood, 
    938 F.2d 1086
    (10th Cir. 1991), Mr. Pulham could be
    arguing that, because the district court did not make any specific and explicit
    factual findings regarding its reliance on the facts adduced through Agent Reinert’s
    testimony to support the pattern-of-activity enhancement, we are legally obliged to
    restrict our review to the only facts that the court did specifically and explicitly
    adopt—that is, the PSR’s findings. Under the rationale of this argument, this
    limitation on the scope of our review would exist even if the district court—as a
    matter of historical fact—tacitly credited and relied upon the Reinert-adduced facts.
    If Mr. Pulham is actually making such a legal argument, his initial threshold,
    and ultimately dispositive, problem is that, not only did he not make this precise
    argument before the district court, he did not even make a related challenge to the
    adequacy of the district court’s factual findings. Therefore, Mr. Pulham has
    forfeited any such legal argument. See, e.g., United States v. Uscanga-Mora, 
    562 F.3d 1289
    , 1293 (10th Cir. 2009) (“Because Mr. Uscanga-Mora did not alert the
    district court that he considered its statement of reasons for issuing the
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    enhancement inadequate, his claim for relief on this procedural ground has been
    forfeited.”). And, because Mr. Pulham has not argued for plain-error review of this
    argument on appeal, he has waived our review of it. See, e.g., Richison v. Ernest
    Grp., Inc., 
    634 F.3d 1123
    , 1131 (10th Cir. 2011) (“[T]he failure to argue for plain
    error and its application on appeal—surely marks the end of the road for an
    argument for reversal not first presented to the district court.”).
    In any event, on the merits, Mr. Pulham’s legal argument would fail. In the
    portion of Underwood cited by Mr. Pulham, we simply held that “at a minimum,
    the [sentencing] court must make a finding that the requirements for the
    [Guidelines] adjustment [e.g., enhancement] have been satisfied.” 
    Underwood, 938 F.2d at 1091
    . By its plain terms, this language from Underwood hardly lends
    support to the legal argument that we generously divined from Mr. Pulham’s
    briefing. Nor does the language of our other controlling caselaw.
    Indeed, as Underwood itself recognizes, “our cases clearly do not require the
    district court to make particularized findings for guidelines adjustments.” 
    Id. In other
    words, a district court is not obliged in our circuit to make any specific
    findings regarding the basis for its ultimate determination that “the requirements
    for the adjustment have been satisfied.” United States v. Montoan-Herrera, 
    351 F.3d 462
    , 466 (10th Cir. 2003) (quoting 
    Underwood, 938 F.2d at 1091
    ). Although
    a district court must make a finding that a guideline adjustment applies, that
    finding “need not be particularized.” Id.; see United States v. Caruth, 
    930 F.2d 19
    811, 816 (10th Cir. 1991) (“Caruth argues that the district court failed to make
    sufficient findings of fact about his status. However, we have only required district
    courts to make findings and explain their reasoning with respect to departures
    under the Guidelines. ‘When adjustments under the guidelines are involved, a trial
    court is in no way required to make detailed findings, or explain why a particular
    adjustment is or is not appropriate.’” (emphasis added) (quoting United States v.
    Maldonado-Campos, 
    920 F.2d 714
    , 718 (10th Cir. 1990))); United States v.
    Donaldson, 
    915 F.2d 612
    , 615 (10th Cir. 1990) (affirming sentence where “the
    district court refused to state the basis for its finding” of fact that defendant was
    not a minor participant, and stating that, “[a]lthough it would more clearly inform
    the defendant and help on appellate review if the district judge would state why he
    found as he did, there is no legal requirement that the judge state reasons for his
    finding of fact”); cf. 
    Montoan-Herrera, 351 F.3d at 466
    –67 (noting that “the
    finding for an adjustment need not be particularized,” but vacating defendant’s
    sentence because the “district court did not state what the adjustment was for nor
    did it make a finding that the requirements for the adjustment were satisfied”).
    Accordingly, insofar as Mr. Pulham is arguing that we are legally precluded from
    considering the Reinert-adduced facts in resolving his two sentencing challenges
    because the district court did not make specific findings adopting those facts, even
    if this argument were not waived (which it is), we would reject it.
    D
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    The foregoing analysis has laid the groundwork for our resolution of Mr.
    Pulham’s two sentencing challenges. Contrary to Mr. Pulham’s bedrock premise
    underlying those challenges, we may consider in our review not only the PSR’s
    factual findings, but also the facts adduced through the testimony of Agent Reinert.
    With this factual universe in mind, we address Mr. Pulham’s two arguments.
    1
    Mr. Pulham’s first argument advances a legal challenge under the rigorous
    plain-error standard of review. He contends that the district court committed plain
    legal error in applying the enhancement because the facts upon which the district
    court relied do not satisfy the definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation” set forth
    in § 2G2.2(b)(5) of the Guidelines. In response, the government admits that “the
    conduct described in the PSR does not fit the definition of sexual abuse or
    exploitation as set forth in the guideline,” but vigorously insists that there is
    “substantial evidence in the record which clearly does support the imposition of the
    pattern of activity enhancement.” Aplee.’s Resp. Br. at 12 (emphasis added). We
    believe that the government has the stronger hand. In particular, we conclude that
    the facts adduced through Agent Reinert’s testimony patently clear the legal hurdle
    of § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s definition of sexual abuse or exploitation.
    First of all, Mr. Pulham must confront an issue of waiver. He has adopted an
    all-or-nothing approach with respect to his contention—which we have deemed
    erroneous—that the district court relied solely on the PSR’s factual findings in
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    support of the pattern-of-activity enhancement. As an apparent consequence of this
    strategic decision, Mr. Pulham has not attempted to argue (even alternatively) that
    the court would have plainly erred by relying on other evidence in the record as
    grounds for the enhancement. Notably, he has not argued that the facts adduced
    through Agent Reinert’s testimony are legally insufficient because they do not
    satisfy § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation.” In other
    words, his briefing offers no retort to the government’s position that other record
    evidence extending beyond the PSR’s findings—notably, the Reinert-adduced
    facts—was sufficient to meet this Guidelines definition. In short, apparently
    because of his all-or-nothing approach regarding the relevant universe of facts, Mr.
    Pulham fires at the wrong target.
    It behooved Mr. Pulham, however, to have a backup plan. In other words, to
    establish that the district court plainly erred in imposing the enhancement, he was
    obliged not only to mount his legal challenge with respect to the factual universe
    he believed to exist, but also with respect to other plausible factual scenarios that
    could be advanced to support the court’s enhancement. Cf. United States v. Davis,
    
    339 F.3d 1223
    , 1227 (10th Cir. 2003) (noting that we may affirm convictions on
    “any ground that finds support in the record”). Moreover, it is well-settled doctrine
    that “[f]ailure to raise an issue in the opening appellate brief waives that issue.”
    United States v. Black, 
    369 F.3d 1171
    , 1176 (10th Cir. 2004); see Adler v.
    Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., 
    144 F.3d 664
    , 679 (10th Cir. 1998) (“Arguments
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    inadequately briefed in the opening brief are waived.”). Accordingly, we would be
    free to deem this legal, plain-error argument that Mr. Pulham has vigorously—but
    single-mindedly—directed at the district court’s reliance on the PSR’s factual
    findings to be waived as applied to the court’s reliance on other record evidence,
    saliently, the Reinert-adduced facts. See, e.g., Abernathy v. Wandes, 
    713 F.3d 538
    , 552 (10th Cir. 2013) (“[T]he decision regarding what issues are appropriate to
    entertain on appeal in instances of lack of preservation is discretionary.”).
    Even were we to overlook this waiver, however, we would conclude that Mr.
    Pulham’s legal, plain-error argument is without merit. Put simply, there is no
    error, much less clear or obvious error. The facts adduced through Agent Reinert’s
    testimony—taken at face value—clearly satisfied § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s definition of
    “sexual abuse or exploitation.”4 More specifically, these facts conveyed that Mr.
    Pulham established a pattern of “knowingly engag[ing] in a sexual act with another
    person who ha[d] not attained the age of 12 years.” 18 U.S.C. § 2241(c).
    Agent Reinert testified regarding specific conduct by Mr. Pulham that clearly
    constituted repeated sexual acts with someone under the age of twelve. Agent
    4
    For purposes of resolving Mr. Pulham’s plain-error challenge, we assume
    that the Reinert-adduced facts could be properly considered by the district court because
    they bear sufficient indicia of reliability. Mr. Pulham’s challenge here is purely a legal
    one and does not dispute the quality of the factual evidence. The question here is simply
    whether the district court plainly erred in concluding that the relevant facts satisfied
    § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation.” And we answer that
    question in the negative. We address Mr. Pulham’s concerns about the reliability of the
    record evidence infra in Part II.D.2.
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    Reinert testified that J.H. said that Mr. Pulham made her “perform oral sex upon
    him”5 and made her “engage in vaginal intercourse with him.”6 Aplt.’s App., Vol.
    III, at 75. This testimony alone would qualify as a pattern of activity under
    § 2G2.2(b)(5) because J.H. described at least two instances of sexual abuse or
    exploitation.7 Moreover, Agent Reinert testified that C.P. said, when she was
    between the ages of four and twelve, Mr. Pulham (among other things) engaged in
    an “egregious” sexual act with her; he “spread the lips of her vagina and place[d]
    his penis upon it.” Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 70. This constitutes another sexual act
    that patently satisfies § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s definition of “sexual abuse or exploitation.”
    See 18 U.S.C. § 2246(2)(D).
    Therefore, the Reinert-adduced facts were legally sufficient to support the
    five-level pattern-of-activity enhancement, even though it is undisputed that the
    PSR’s factual findings, standing alone, were not. Thus, even were we to overlook
    Mr. Pulham’s waiver of his plain-error argument, as it pertains to the facts adduced
    through Agent Reinert’s testimony, he could not establish that the district court
    5
    A “sexual act” includes “contact between the mouth and the penis.”
    18 U.S.C. § 2246(2)(B).
    6
    A “sexual act” includes “contact between the penis and the vulva . . . ,
    and for purposes of this subparagraph contact involving the penis occurs upon
    penetration, however slight.” 18 U.S.C. § 2246(2)(A).
    7
    According to the commentary to § 2G2.2, a “pattern of activity”
    includes “any combination of two or more separate instances of the sexual abuse
    or sexual exploitation of a minor by the defendant, whether or not the abuse or
    exploitation . . . involved the same minor.” U.S.S.G. § 2G2.2 cmt. n.1.
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    committed error, let alone clear or obvious error, in determining that the record
    evidence was legally sufficient to satisfy § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s definition of “sexual
    abuse or exploitation.”
    2
    Second, Mr. Pulham argues that the district court committed clear error in
    finding that he qualified for § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s enhancement because the court relied
    on facts permeated by hearsay that did not evince the requisite indicia of reliability.
    For the reasons noted below, we reject this argument.
    We begin by underscoring the deferential nature of the clearly-erroneous
    standard of review. “To constitute clear error, we must be convinced that the
    sentencing court’s finding is simply not plausible or permissible in light of the
    entire record on appeal, remembering that we are not free to substitute our
    judgment for that of the district judge.” United States v. Torres, 
    53 F.3d 1129
    ,
    1144 (10th Cir. 1995); see United States v. Proffit, 
    304 F.3d 1001
    , 1009 (10th Cir.
    2002) (noting, as to a Guidelines sentencing challenge, that the defendant “must
    clear the difficult hurdle of clearly erroneous review”). “Pursuant to the clearly
    erroneous standard, a trial judge’s findings of fact are presumptively correct.”
    Harry T. Edwards & Linda A. Elliott, FEDERAL STANDARDS OF REVIEW: REVIEW
    OF   DISTRICT COURT AND AGENCY DECISIONS , ch. II, Westlaw (database updated
    Feb. 2018); see Bose Corp. v. Consumers Union of U.S., Inc., 
    466 U.S. 485
    , 500
    (1984) (discussing “the presumption of correctness that attaches to factual
    25
    findings”). Under this standard, “[a] finding that is ‘plausible’ in light of the full
    record—even if another is equally or more so—must govern.” Cooper v. Harris, --
    - U.S. ----, 
    137 S. Ct. 1455
    , 1465 (2017) (quoting Anderson v. Bessemer City, 
    470 U.S. 564
    , 574 (1985)). “In practice, the ‘clearly erroneous’ standard requires the
    appellate court to uphold any district court determination that falls within a broad
    range of permissible conclusions.” Cooter & Gell v. Hartmax Corp., 
    496 U.S. 384
    , 400 (1990). At bottom, “[a] finding is ‘clearly erroneous’ when although
    there is evidence to support it, the reviewing court on the entire evidence is left
    with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been committed.” United
    States v. U.S. Gypsum Co., 
    333 U.S. 364
    , 395 (1948); see also United States v.
    Pool, 
    937 F.2d 1528
    , 1530 (10th Cir. 1991) (“We review factual findings
    underlying upward adjustments with deference, overturning them only upon a
    determination that the findings were clearly erroneous or without factual support in
    the record such that our review leaves us with the firm and definite conviction that
    a mistake has been made.”).
    Therefore, we must ask here whether we are definitely and firmly convinced
    that the district court erred in finding that it was more likely than not on this
    record—under a preponderance-of-the-evidence standard—that Mr. Pulham
    qualified for the pattern-of-activity enhancement. See Edwards & Elliott, supra,
    ch. II (“[I]mportantly, in applying the clearly erroneous standard, a reviewing court
    must take account of the standard of proof informing the trial court’s factual
    26
    finding.”); see also United States v. Rice, 
    52 F.3d 843
    , 848 (10th Cir. 1995) (noting
    that “the government bears the burden of proof for sentence increases” by a
    “preponderance of the evidence”). Mr. Pulham contends that he can prevail, even
    under this deferential standard, because the evidence on which the district court
    based its pattern-of-activity enhancement did not evince minimal indicia of
    reliability.
    District courts are not bound by the Federal Rules of Evidence when
    sentencing a defendant. See, e.g., United States v. Ruby, 
    706 F.3d 1221
    , 1229
    (10th Cir. 2013); see also 18 U.S.C. § 3661 (“No limitation shall be placed on the
    information concerning the background, character, and conduct of a person
    convicted of an offense which a court of the United States may receive and
    consider for the purpose of imposing an appropriate sentence.”); U.S.S.G. § 6A1.3
    cmt. (“In determining the relevant facts, sentencing judges are not restricted to
    information that would be admissible at trial.”). Rather, courts may consider any
    information that contains “sufficient indicia of reliability to support its probable
    accuracy.” U.S.S.G. § 6A1.3(a). Thus, a district court may rely on hearsay
    statements at sentencing without violating a defendant’s due process rights,8 so
    8
    See generally FED. R. EVID. 801(c) (defining hearsay as “a statement that . .
    . the declarant does not make while testifying at the current trial or hearing” and “a party
    offers in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement”); accord
    United States v. McIntyre, 
    997 F.2d 687
    , 699 (10th Cir. 1993). Mr. Pulham
    concedes, as he must, that the court’s reliance on hearsay evidence was not a per se
    (continued...)
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    long as the statements bear “some minimal indicia of reliability.” 
    Cook, 550 F.3d at 1296
    (quoting United States v. Browning, 
    61 F.3d 752
    , 755 (10th Cir. 1995)); see
    also United States v. Beaulieu, 
    893 F.2d 1177
    , 1181 (10th Cir. 1990) (“As it
    pertains to hearsay information, due process requires that the information used have
    ‘some minimal indicium of reliability beyond mere allegation.’” (quoting United
    States v. Sunrhodes, 
    831 F.2d 1537
    , 1542 (10th Cir. 1987))); U.S.S.G. § 6A1.3 cmt.
    (“Reliable hearsay evidence may be considered.”).
    A “district court [can even] rely on double hearsay as long as the statements
    contained minimal indicia of reliability.” United States v. Basnett, 
    735 F.3d 1255
    ,
    1261 (10th Cir. 2013). “Corroborating evidence is often key to determining
    whether a statement is sufficiently reliable.” 
    Ruby, 706 F.3d at 1229
    ; accord
    United States v. Jones, 
    818 F.3d 1091
    , 1098 n.4 (10th Cir. 2016); see United States
    v. Caiba-Antele, 
    705 F.3d 1162
    , 1166 (10th Cir. 2012) (finding sufficient indicia of
    reliability in corroborating statements given to detectives by multiple victims of sexual
    abuse); see also United States v. Robey, 
    120 F.3d 271
    , 
    1997 WL 44732697
    , at *4 (10th
    Cir. 1997) (unpublished) (“In this case, we believe the record sufficiently corroborates the
    hearsay statements relied upon in the PSR to provide a minimal indicia of reliability.”).
    At the outset, as with his plain-error challenge, Mr. Pulham’s argument falters on
    waiver grounds. As noted, we have determined that the district court not only adopted the
    8
    (...continued)
    violation of his rights. Rather, he challenges the reliability of that hearsay evidence.
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    PSR’s factual findings, but also relied (necessarily) in principal part on the facts adduced
    through Agent Reinert’s testimony to support its pattern-of-activity enhancement. This
    testimony was undisputedly hearsay, as the testimony communicated for their truth the
    statements of C.P. and J.H. Yet, in his opening brief, Mr. Pulham never contends
    that the district court clearly erred insofar as it relied on Agent Reinert’s testimony
    as an independent basis for the enhancement because it was unreliable hearsay.
    Instead, consistent with his theory that the district court based the enhancement
    solely on the PSR’s factual findings, Mr. Pulham simply argues that Agent
    Reinert’s testimony could not corroborate the findings in the PSR. See Aplt.’s
    Opening Br. at 22 (“[T]he hearsay statements relayed by Agent Reinert simply
    were not sufficiently corroborative of the separate hearsay statements recounted in
    the PSR.”); cf. 
    id. at 8
    (arguing that “the district court clearly erred in accepting the
    allegations recited in the PSR” (emphasis added)). The PSR’s factual findings
    were undisputedly problematic because they were “based on multiple layers of
    hearsay.” Aplt.’s Opening Br. at 19 & n.7;9 see United States v. Lloyd, 
    566 F.3d 341
    , 344 (3d Cir. 2009) (noting that “out-of-court statements . . . containing
    multiple layers of hearsay have been recognized as unreliable” (citations omitted));
    9
    Mr. Pulham succinctly underscores his argument in this regard, noting for
    example as to J.H., the following: “With respect to the alleged incident involving J.H.
    recounted in the PSR, there were at least three levels of hearsay—J.H. to her mother to
    the preparer of the child services report to the report itself . . . .” Aplt.’s Opening Br. at
    19 n.7.
    29
    accord Crawford v. Jackson, 
    323 F.3d 123
    , 129 (D.C. Cir. 2003) (noting, in the
    parole revocation context, that “police statements are less reliable to the extent that
    they . . . contain multiple layers of hearsay” (citations omitted)). But, even
    assuming that Agent Reinert’s testimony was incapable of performing the
    Herculean task of corroborating the PSR’s hearsay-laden findings, that does not tell
    us much about whether that testimony, standing alone, was sufficiently reliable to
    support the district court’s pattern-of-activity enhancement. And Mr. Pulham
    expresses no view on that subject in his opening brief. Thus, by basing his
    hearsay-reliability argument solely on the PSR’s findings, Mr. Pulham has ignored
    the possibility that other evidence in the record—notably, Agent Reinert’s
    testimony—was sufficiently reliable to independently support the district court’s
    pattern-of-activity enhancement.
    Accordingly, in our view, Mr. Pulham has waived a hearsay-reliability
    argument insofar as it would pertain to whether the district court’s pattern-of-
    activity enhancement could be properly grounded on Agent Reinert’s admittedly
    hearsay testimony. See, e.g., 
    Black, 369 F.3d at 1176
    ; 
    Adler, 144 F.3d at 679
    . To
    be sure, in his reply brief, Mr. Pulham argues for the first time that Agent Reinert’s
    testimony was not sufficiently reliable to “independently support application of the
    pattern enhancement.” Aplt.’s Reply Br. at 12. But, significantly, he
    acknowledges that this was not an argument that he presented in his opening brief.
    See 
    id. at 7
    (noting that “[i]n his opening brief, Mr. Pulham argued that the double-
    30
    and triple-hearsay statements in the PSR” were not sufficiently reliable).
    Arguments made for the first time in reply briefs come too late. See, e.g., White v.
    Chafin, 
    862 F.3d 1065
    , 1067 (10th Cir. 2017) (noting that the party “waived []his
    contention by waiting to present it for the first time in his reply brief”); United
    States v. Mora, 
    293 F.3d 1213
    , 1216 (10th Cir. 2002) (“Nor do we consider
    arguments raised for the first time in a reply brief.”). Accordingly, Mr. Pulham’s
    assertion for the first time in his reply brief of a hearsay-reliability challenge to
    Agent Reinert’s testimony, as an independent basis for the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement, will not rescue this challenge from waiver.
    Even were we inclined to exercise our discretion to overlook this waiver and
    apply Mr. Pulham’s hearsay-reliability argument to Agent Reinert’s testimony—as
    a possible independent basis for the enhancement—we would still conclude that
    Mr. Pulham cannot prevail. Under our precedent, the indicia of reliability
    associated with Agent Reinert’s testimony is admittedly limited. But we ultimately
    conclude that this testimony was sufficiently reliable for the district court to
    consider in determining the applicability of the pattern-of-activity enhancement and
    that it provided an adequate factual basis for that enhancement. In short, we are
    not definitely and firmly convinced that the district court erred in finding that it
    was more likely than not that Mr. Pulham qualified for the pattern-of-activity
    enhancement.
    A “key” factor in our determination is the corroboration for the hearsay
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    statements of C.P. and J.H. 
    Ruby, 706 F.3d at 1229
    . First, as the district court
    noted, the separate and independent statements of C.P. and J.H. (offered through
    Agent Reinert’s testimony) had the effect of corroborating each other. They
    described roughly similar sexual acts that Mr. Pulham allegedly caused them to
    engage in when they were approximately the same age. We have previously
    recognized the corroborative force of such similar statements. For instance, in
    Caiba-Antele, we noted that the independent accounts of three children who
    accused the defendant of sexually assaulting them added reliability to the hearsay
    statements of the children because “the testimony of each victim . . . corroborated
    the type and instances of abuse the other children said were perpetrated against
    
    them.” 705 F.3d at 1166
    ; see also 
    Cook, 550 F.3d at 1297
    (finding that the
    statements of “two witnesses” regarding the same firearms-related felonious
    incident had a corroborative effect in support of a Guidelines enhancement relating
    to possessing or using a firearm in connection with another felony offense). And,
    contrary to Mr. Pulham’s suggestion, the statements of C.P. and J.H. could serve to
    corroborate each other even though the two women “did not refer to” or “mention”
    each other and the statements did not relate to the same “specific incident.”
    Aplt.’s Reply Br. at 10–11 (italics omitted); see 
    Caiba-Antele, 705 F.3d at 1166
    (finding corroboration in witness statements that were merely similar in “type and
    instances of abuse” by the defendant).
    Second, as the district court found, and the government stresses,
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    corroboration or validation of the statements of C.P. and J.H. can also be found in
    the fact that their ages at the time of Mr. Pulham’s alleged sexual abuse were
    “consistent with the child pornography [Mr. Pulham] collected” (i.e., C.P. and J.H.
    were prepubescent girls at the time of the alleged abuse and a majority of the
    images and videos seized from Mr. Pulham, which formed the basis of his
    conviction, depicted prepubescent children). Aplee.’s Resp. Br. at 21. More
    specifically, the district court found that the hearsay statements of C.P. and J.H.
    were reliable in part because—at the time Mr. Pulham perpetrated the alleged
    sexual conduct on them—both women were of a similar age to the children
    depicted in the pornographic material that led to Mr. Pulham’s conviction.
    The district court would not have been unreasonable in discerning from these
    particular circumstances of Mr. Pulham’s conviction that he harbors a lingering
    sexual interest in children. See, e.g., United States v. Byrd, 
    31 F.3d 1329
    , 1339 &
    n.9 (5th Cir. 1994) (“In addition to citing the case law and expert testimony that
    links pedophilia to child pornography, we also note that common sense would
    indicate that a person who is sexually interested in children is likely to also be
    inclined, i.e., predisposed, to order and receive child pornography.”); United States
    v. Bentley, 
    475 F. Supp. 2d 852
    , 858 (N.D. Iowa 2007) (“The child pornographer,
    like the child rapist, displays a sexual interest in children.”), aff’d, 
    561 F.3d 803
    (8th Cir. 2009). And this, in turn, would have bolstered the reliability of C.P.’s and
    J.H.’s allegations of prepubescent sexual abuse. See 
    Ruby, 706 F.3d at 1230
    33
    (finding that defendant’s prior conviction for assaulting his girlfriend “may help
    establish another piece of the ‘minimal indicia of reliability’ necessary to consider
    [her hearsay statement] at sentencing” regarding similar assaultive conduct).
    Despite Mr. Pulham’s suggestion that such an analytical approach amounts to
    “sweeping,” legally objectionable “bootstrapping,” of his conviction to support a
    Guidelines enhancement, Aplt.’s Reply Br. at 11, there ordinarily is no limit “on
    the information concerning the background, character, and conduct of a person
    convicted of an offense which a court . . . may receive and consider for the purpose
    of imposing an appropriate sentence.” 18 U.S.C. § 3661 (emphases added). And
    there is no provision in the Guidelines or other law barring a court from
    considering a child-pornography conviction in determining the applicability of a
    pattern-of-activity enhancement.
    Moreover, certain characteristics of the women themselves and the
    circumstances surrounding their statements to Agent Reinert could have
    appreciably bolstered the reliability of their statements in the eyes of the district
    court. As the government noted, when they made their statements, C.P. and J.H.
    were “adults . . . who presumably understood the import of their statements,”
    Aplee.’s Resp. Br. at 11—more specifically, who presumably understood that
    allegations of sexual abuse are very serious and should be made with
    circumspection and care and probably also that adverse ramifications may befall
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    those who lie to law enforcement about such allegations.10 Cf. Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 270 (2000) (discussing the categorical reliability of “a tip from a known
    informant” because he or she “can be held responsible if her allegations turn out to
    be fabricated”); United States v. Johnson, 
    364 F.3d 1185
    , 1190 (10th Cir. 2004)
    (“A tipster who refuses to identify himself may simply be making up the story,
    perhaps trying to use the police to harass another citizen.”). The court took
    specific note of the fact that C.P. and J.H. were “grown women” when they made
    their statements. Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 93. Furthermore, though C.P. and J.H.
    were, by their own accounts, victims of Mr. Pulham, there is no suggestion that
    they “had reasons to lie,” 
    Ruby, 706 F.3d at 1230
    (counting the victim’s daughter
    among the “three relatively neutral witnesses”), or “had a dishonest motive.”
    United States v. Dickerson, 678 F. App’x 706, 714 (10th Cir. 2017) (unpublished).
    In this regard, the clear indication from Agent Reinert’s testimony is that she
    initiated communications with C.P. and J.H. in the runup to the hearing; in other
    words, they apparently did not reach out to Agent Reinert “with an axe to grind”
    against Mr. Pulham and with the intent to harm him. 
    Ruby, 706 F.3d at 1230
    .
    Consistent with this view, Agent Reinert testified that, though she succeeded in
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    Indeed, at the time she was interviewed by Agent Reinert, C.P. held a law-
    enforcement-related job herself; she was “a correctional officer in a juvenile detention
    facility.” Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 69. And, notably, J.H. also held a responsible
    government position that presumably would have sensitized her to the possible adverse
    ramifications of lying to law enforcement; J.H. was “a soldier in the U.S. Army and ha[d]
    been for the past 12 years” at the time of the interview. 
    Id. at 74.
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    contacting J.H. for the pre-hearing interview, it was not “the first time” that she
    had “attempted to reach” J.H. Aplt.’s App., Vol. III, at 73.
    Lastly, though Agent Reinert did not conduct in-person interviews of C.P.
    and J.H., but rather spoke to them on the telephone, Agent Reinert did provide the
    district court with testimony regarding her impressions of the oral demeanor and
    attitude of C.P. and J.H. And the court reasonably could have viewed this
    testimony as appreciably bolstering the reliability of the women’s hearsay
    statements. That is because C.P. and J.H. acted on the telephone like a reasonable
    person might expect them to act, if the two had in fact been sexually abused as
    prepubescent minors by Mr. Pulham. For example, in testifying about C.P.’s
    “affect” during the interview, Agent Reinert stated, “She was very emotional.
    There were several times . . . where we’d have to pause and she would need to
    collect herself. And she was very angry.” 
    Id. at 72.
    And offering similar
    testimony regarding J.H., Agent Reinert observed that she displayed “[s]hock and
    disgust,” and seemingly because the subject matter of the interview was disturbing
    to her, “brevity.” 
    Id. at 73.
    It is not lost on us that, under our precedent, the reliability of the hearsay
    statements of C.P. and J.H. was seriously undermined by the fact that they were
    “[u]nsworn out-of-court statements” made by witnesses that the testifying agent
    “did not have an opportunity to [visually] observe” and assess their “demeanor,”
    and “therefore could not,” based on such visual observations, “form any opinion as
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    to [their] veracity.” United States v. Fennell, 
    65 F.3d 812
    , 814 (10th Cir. 1995);
    see United States v. Ortiz, 
    993 F.2d 204
    , 207 (10th Cir. 1993) (holding that
    unsworn, out-of-court statements “must have ‘sufficient corroboration by other
    means’” to form the basis for an enhancement (quoting U.S.S.G. § 6A1.3 cmt.));
    see also 
    Cook, 550 F.3d at 1296
    (discussing Fennell’s holding regarding
    unobserved witnesses); United States v. Mullins, 
    632 F. App'x 499
    , 507 (10th Cir.
    2015) (unpublished) (discussing Fennell’s holding, and basing a pattern-of-activity
    enhancement on the hearsay statements of a witness that the officers “personally
    interviewed . . . and thus could observe his demeanor and form opinions as to his
    veracity”); United States v. Wilson, 95 F. App’x 970, 976 (10th Cir. 2004)
    (unpublished) (noting that hearsay statement taken telephonically “arguably lacks a
    minimal indicia of reliability” because the testifying witness “could not observe
    [the declarant’s] demeanor to form an opinion as to the veracity of her
    statements”), cert. granted, judgment vacated on other grounds sub nom. Wilson v.
    United States, 
    543 U.S. 1103
    (2005).
    The seminal case in the Tenth Circuit regarding the reliability weaknesses of
    unsworn statements derived from telephonic interviews—which Mr. Pulham does
    cite—is Fennell. There, the district court imposed a sentencing enhancement under
    Guidelines § 2K2.1(b)(5) on the defendant because he allegedly “had used his
    machine gun in connection with a felonious 
    assault.” 65 F.3d at 813
    . But we
    reversed. Describing the procedural circumstances, we stated:
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    The district court found by a preponderance of the evidence that
    Mr. Fennell had fired his machine gun at his former girlfriend—an
    act which admittedly would constitute a felony within the meaning
    of § 2K2.1(b)(5). The district court based its finding upon the
    presentence report [i.e., PSR] and upon the testimony of the
    probation officer who prepared that report. The report and the
    accompanying testimony, in turn, simply recounted statements
    made by the girlfriend to the preparing officer during a telephone
    interview. In essence, then, the district court’s finding was based
    upon hearsay evidence.
    
    Id. We stressed
    that the PSR’s enhancement—which the district court
    accepted—“was based solely upon unsworn allegations made by the [former]
    girlfriend during the telephone interview.” 
    Id. In our
    view, due to the
    unsworn nature of the former girlfriend’s statement, and the telephonic
    means by which the probation officer obtained it—which deprived the officer
    of “an opportunity to observe her demeanor” and to “form any opinion as to
    her veracity”—the statement had “almost [a] total absence of indicia of
    reliability.” 
    Id. We therefore
    held that it was “an insufficient predicate for a
    sentence enhancement.” 
    Id. at 814.
    We conclude, however, that Fennell (as well as its progeny) is
    distinguishable from the circumstances of this case. First, unlike Fennell,
    the statements at issue, of C.P. and J.H., were not “unsupported by other
    evidence” that would corroborate them. 
    Id. As noted,
    each
    statement—which described roughly similar sexual acts that Mr. Pulham
    allegedly caused the women to engage in, when they were approximately the
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    same age—served to corroborate and bolster the reliability of the other.
    Moreover, the district court could have reasonably inferred from the
    particular circumstances of Mr. Pulham’s child-pornography
    conviction—which was based on his possession of images of prepubescent
    children—that he harbored a lingering sexual interest in young children that
    could manifest itself in sexual abuse. These circumstances could have
    reasonably corroborated, and reinforced the reliability of, the hearsay
    statements of C.P. and J.H. regarding their prepubescent sexual abuse at the
    hands of Mr. Pulham.
    Second, in Fennell, we tacitly recognized that “the [former] girlfriend
    may have had a reason to lie based on her previous relationship with the
    defendant.” Dickerson, 678 F. App’x at 714. In contrast here, though they
    were alleged victims of Mr. Pulham, there is no suggestion that C.P. and J.H.
    “had reasons to lie,” 
    Ruby, 706 F.3d at 1230
    (counting the victim’s daughter
    among the “three relatively neutral witnesses”), or “had a dishonest motive,”
    Dickerson, 678 F. App’x at 714.
    Lastly, unlike the sentencing court in Fennell, the district court here
    was not entirely bereft of evidence bearing on the demeanor of the witnesses
    providing the out-of-court statements. Though she did not conduct in-person
    interviews of C.P. and J.H., Agent Reinert did glean in her telephonic
    interviews of the two women impressions that—while admittedly lacking the
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    optimal clarity of in-person, visual observations—offered significant clues
    regarding the women’s demeanor. Agent Reinert testified, in effect, that
    C.P. and J.H. acted on the telephone like a reasonable person might expect
    them to act, if the two had in fact been sexually abused as prepubescent
    minors by Mr. Pulham. And, thus, the district court reasonably could have
    viewed Agent Reinert’s testimony as appreciably bolstering the reliability of
    the two women’s statements. In contrast, the sentencing court in Fennell had
    no such means of adding to “the almost total absence of indicia of
    reliability” of the former girlfriend’s statement. 
    Id. Thus, as
    we did in Cook, we conclude that “[t]hese differences [from
    Fennell] are sufficient to vest some minimal confidence in the reliability of
    the hearsay statements before the district court,” and therefore “hold that the
    district court did not clearly err in relying on 
    them.” 550 F.3d at 1297
    .
    ***
    In sum, even if we were inclined to overlook Mr. Pulham’s waiver of
    his hearsay-reliability argument as to the testimony of Agent Reinert, as an
    independent basis for the pattern-of-activity enhancement, we would
    conclude that this argument fails on the merits.
    III
    For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM the district court’s sentencing
    order, finding that Mr. Pulham qualified for § 2G2.2(b)(5)’s pattern-of-
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    activity enhancement.
    ENTERED FOR THE COURT
    Jerome A. Holmes
    Circuit Judge
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    16-8019 – United States v. Pulham
    HARTZ, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    I respectfully dissent. In my view, this is just the type of case for which plain-
    error review is suited. It is apparent from the record that during the sentencing hearing
    no one—not the probation office, defense counsel, the prosecutor, or the district court—
    had a correct understanding of the meaning of “sexual abuse or exploitation of a minor”
    in USSG § 2G2.2(b)(5). As a result, the court made an indisputable legal error in
    determining whether Defendant was subject to an offense-level enhancement under that
    guideline. We must therefore reverse the sentence and remand for further proceedings.
    See United States v. McKibbon, 
    878 F.3d 967
    , 977–78 (10th Cir. 2017). The majority of
    this panel disagrees. But perhaps Defendant can get the same relief through a motion
    under 28 U.S.C. § 2255 complaining that his counsel was ineffective for failing to bring
    to the attention of the district court that the presentence report (PSR) had misinterpreted
    the guideline. If the district court finds what I am convinced of—that the enhancement
    was based on an incorrect interpretation of the guideline—then it would likely grant
    relief.
    USSG § 2G2.2(b)(5) states: “If the defendant engaged in a pattern of activity
    involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of a minor, increase by 5 levels.” Application
    note 1 to the guideline defines sexual abuse or exploitation to include conduct described
    in several federal criminal statutes. The parties agree that the only applicable statute was
    18 U.S.C. § 2241(c), which prohibits “knowingly engag[ing] in a sexual act with another
    person who has not attained the age of 12 years.” The term sexual act is defined in
    18 U.S.C. § 2246(2) as:
    (A) contact between the penis and the vulva or the penis and the
    anus, and for purposes of this subparagraph contact involving the penis
    occurs upon penetration, however slight;
    (B) contact between the mouth and the penis, the mouth and the
    vulva, or the mouth and the anus;
    (C) the penetration, however slight, of the anal or genital opening of
    another by a hand or finger or by any object, with an intent to abuse,
    humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any
    person; or
    (D) the intentional touching, not through the clothing, of the
    genitalia of another person who has not attained the age of 16 years with an
    intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual
    desire of any person[.]
    This is a rather narrow definition of sexual abuse or exploitation. Common usage
    would include much less egregious misconduct, and it is apparent that all those
    participating in Defendant’s sentencing were thinking in terms of common usage.
    After Defendant pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography, the probation
    office uncovered allegations of sexual misconduct against Defendant when he was a
    juvenile. See R. at 140, 177–78. The PSR summarized those allegations as follows:
    The defendant has a juvenile rap sheet . . . reflecting an arrest on
    February 1, 1989, by the Payson Police Department, Payson, Utah, for
    Forcible Sexual Abuse of a Child Under Age 14. The matter did not result
    in a juvenile delinquency adjudication. He was placed in extended
    counseling.
    Records from the Utah Department of Human Services indicate that
    his sister, 13-year-old [CP], told her mother the defendant “raped” her and
    her six-year-old sister, [SP]. Interviews were conducted with both [CP] and
    [SP]. [CP] said she remembered being victimized as early as age 6, but
    primarily between the ages of 8-10 years old. She said he had full sexual
    intercourse with her, but a medical interview with a doctor revealed she was
    not a victim of sexual intercourse, but was fondled repeatedly. She also
    described an event when the defendant and a friend [apparently the brother
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    of another alleged victim, JH] were locked in the defendant’s bedroom with
    [SP]. [CP] tried to get the door open, but had to summon her father’s
    assistance. When she was able to ask [SP] what happened, she said they
    made her take her clothes off.
    Another victim was [JH]. The [H] family and the defendant’s family
    attended LDS church together, and the families lived near each other.
    [JH]’s mother advised Utah Child Protective Services that [JH] was visiting
    the Pulham home, when [Defendant] asked her to remove her clothing. He
    was 15 and she was age 10. He grabbed her between the legs and fondled
    her breasts. She ran home, and her mother did not let her go to the Pulham
    residence any more. This event was reported on March 3, 1988.
    ***
    The Probation Officer spoke with [CP], who verified that she, her
    sister [SP], and a friend, [JH], had been victimized sexually by the
    defendant. Her father, Terry Pulham, has related to her the first time he
    observed inappropriate sexual contact between [CP] and the defendant
    occurred when [CP] was four years old and the defendant was seven years
    old. [CP] said she believes the defendant was himself victimized by one of
    her mother’s boyfriends. Their mother was involved in drugs and alcohol
    when they were young, and then she pulled herself together for a few years,
    got married in the LDS Temple, and tried to live a normal life. However,
    once [CP] came forth with the allegations about [Defendant], her mother
    deteriorated again. She eventually went back to substance abuse.
    [CP] said her life has been very difficult. After the disclosures of
    sexual abuse, [CP] said her brother was involved in treatment at Benchmark
    Behavioral Health in Woods Cross, Utah, for a few months. [Their
    mother,] Debbra Pulham was upset by this, and made [CP] tell Benchmark
    staff that the abuse never happened. [CP] finally relented. She told them,
    “I am being forced to tell you the abuse never happened.” That day, she ran
    away from home.
    R. at 52–53, 55.
    Based on those allegations, the PSR recommended adding five levels to
    Defendant’s total offense level, stating: “The defendant has engaged in a pattern of
    activity involving the sexual abuse of minors. He has at least three hands-on victims in
    Utah. Five levels are added. USSG. 2G2.2(b)(5)” R. at 52. The PSR does not state or
    even cite the statutory definition of sexual abuse referenced by that guideline. Although
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    the government now agrees that the allegations in the PSR do not satisfy that definition,
    see Aplee Br. at 12 (“[T]he government would concede that the conduct described in the
    PSR does not fit the definition of sexual abuse or exploitation as set forth in the guideline
    . . . .”), neither the parties nor the district court caught that error at sentencing.
    Defendant’s sole objection to the PSR was that the allegations of sexual abuse
    were unreliable, not that they were legally insufficient. In response to that objection, the
    probation office stated:
    It is true the allegations did not result in a formal prosecution or
    delinquency petition. However, the defendant’s sisters and his childhood
    friend recall that [Defendant] was in residential treatment, perhaps as long
    as six months, as a result of the investigation by Utah Child Protective
    Services. In addition, the Probation Officer spoke with the defendant’s
    sister, [CP], during the course of this presentence investigation. As noted
    in paragraph 42, she confirmed the abuse previously documented in the
    investigative reports of Utah Child Protective Services.
    Per Application Note 1 following U.S.S.G. § 2G2.2, the “pattern of
    activity” enhancement does not have a time limitation, and does not need to
    be based on conduct that resulted in a conviction.
    R. at 69. Clearly, the legal sufficiency of the PSR’s allegations was not on anyone’s
    radar.
    In an attempt to counter Defendant’s unreliability argument, the government
    conducted telephone interviews with CP and JH. As the majority opinion points out,
    their statements, if believed, would establish the necessary predicate for the guidelines
    enhancement. But, as explained below, the credibility of the statements was highly
    questionable, and the record indicates that the district court did not believe the allegations
    that would be necessary to support the enhancement. In other words, to use the language
    of the third prong of plain-error review, “there is a reasonable probability that, but for the
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    error [in understanding the definition of sexual abuse or exploitation in the guideline], the
    result of the proceeding would have been different.” United States v. Rosales-Miranda,
    
    755 F.3d 1253
    , 1258 (10th Cir. 2014) (internal quotation marks omitted).
    Special Agent Shannon Reinert, who conducted the two interviews, was the sole
    government witness at the sentencing hearing. Reinert interviewed CP three days after
    Defendant objected to the reliability of the allegations in the PSR. The only thing that CP
    said during the interview that supported the enhancement was that Defendant had “spread
    the lips of her vagina and place[d] his penis upon it.” But there was good reason to
    question the accuracy of that statement. Agent Reinert testified that CP (who had been
    diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia) had not reported this allegation (or much of the
    other conduct she now described) to the Department of Family Services in 1989 when she
    had falsely accused Defendant of raping her (as the PSR noted, a medical examination
    showed no penetration). One wonders why CP had not reported these allegations 27
    years before, when her memory had been much fresher. It was not a matter of shyness.
    After all, she had falsely accused Defendant of rape at that time. Even the prosecutor was
    not too impressed with CP’s reliability, stating, “If we were just talking about [CP],
    because of all the things that are swirling around here I could see where the Court could
    have some question about whether or not it’s more likely than not that she was sexually
    abused by her brother.” R. at 159.
    As for JH, Agent Reinert conducted the telephone interview with her on the
    morning of the sentencing hearing. Reinert testified that JH was “currently going through
    a medical board process for neurological injuries sustained resultant from a deployment
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    to Iraq.” R. at 145. After recounting JH’s allegations a few hours earlier of multiple
    sexual assaults when she was 10, Reinert acknowledged on cross-examination that JH
    had reported when she was still a child only a single instance of abuse– the incident
    summarized in the PSR. At the time of that report JH had been in counseling; her
    therapist learned of the incident and recommended notifying the Department of Family
    Services (DFS). According to the PSR, JH “ran home” after the incident, “and her
    mother did not let her go to the Pulham residence any more.” R. at 53. The DFS
    investigation apparently concluded that this was a one-time occurrence, and JH’s mother
    believed that as well. The police did not file charges against Defendant. The
    contemporary evidence regarding the incident cannot be reconciled with the account JH
    gave to Agent Reinert. There is compelling reason to doubt that she had experienced the
    newly reported incidents when she had not bothered to tell anyone at the time they
    allegedly occurred.
    Statements in an unsworn telephone interview are of questionable reliability. See
    United States v. Fennell, 
    65 F.3d 812
    , 814 (10th Cir. 1995) (“Unsworn out-of-court
    statements made by an unobserved witness and unsupported by other evidence form an
    insufficient predicate for a sentence enhancement under [USSG] 2K2.1(b)(5).”). In light
    of the serious weaknesses with the substance of the statements, it would be surprising if
    the district court gave them any substantial weight (to say nothing of whether the district
    court could properly give them any weight whatsoever).
    And in fact the record strongly suggests that the district court, although
    referencing the telephone interviews as support for the allegations of sexual misconduct
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    in the PSR, did not rely at all on those portions of the interviews accusing Defendant of
    conduct that would fit the definition of sexual abuse or exploitation. When explaining
    why it was imposing the enhancement, the district court addressed the conduct toward JH
    as follows:
    The factors that seem persuasive to the Court in terms of the application of
    this enhancement are the -- to begin with, the instance reported by [JH].
    Whether that was one or more instances, we have someone of a particular
    age that correlates with the age of [CP], and it also correlates with the age
    of images found on the defendant’s computer associated with this particular
    offense. The types of conduct detailed by two separate individuals also is
    similar which seems to corroborate the stories.
    R. at 163 (emphasis added). What is the “instance reported by” JH? That could only be a
    reference to the sole instance involving her that is described in the PSR. Yet, as admitted
    by the government, that was not an instance of “sexual abuse or exploitation of minors”
    within the guidelines definition.     To the extent that the court was relying on that
    “instance” or on similar “instances,” the court was not distinguishing between conduct
    that satisfied the guidelines definition and conduct that did not. Not having been alerted
    by the parties or the probation office to the proper definition of sexual abuse or
    exploitation, the court was not focusing on the strict requirements of that definition.
    The court then turned to the misconduct alleged by CP. It noted that at the time of
    the incidents Defendant’s father did not seem to seriously contest that Defendant had
    acted sexually toward CP, and it apparently thought that such conduct would suffice
    under the guidelines:
    I didn’t hear Mr. Pulham testify that [CP] victimized [Defendant] by her
    report. It was like, well, we -- the doctor couldn’t tell us whether there was
    any touching, and so it sort of seems to kind of go out into the atmosphere
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    as though that was the end of it, when certainly sexual exploitation doesn’t
    have to be sexual intercourse. It doesn’t have to be really much of what
    was described by the girls to amount to sexual exploitation.
    R. at 164.
    In my view, this passage from the transcript demonstrates that the court was not
    making the findings required by the guideline. After stating that the guideline does not
    require sexual intercourse, the court says, “It doesn’t have to be really much of what was
    described by the girls to amount to sexual exploitation.” That would be a very strange
    thing to say if the court understood that if it did not find sexual intercourse, it had to find
    that Defendant had oral sex with JH on multiple occasions, or that he had placed his penis
    on CH’s vagina multiple times, or that both had occurred. When the court said, in
    essence, that it could disregard “much” of what CP and JH described and still impose the
    guideline enhancement, surely the court was not saying that it could disregard the least
    egregious misconduct. Rather, it was indicating that it could disregard the most
    egregious misconduct; but that is the only misconduct relevant to the guideline. The only
    reasonable explanation for the court’s statement is that it misunderstood what the
    guideline required.
    The court then concluded:
    So the statements by the grown women, [JH] and [CP], the age that they
    were at correlate and it correlates with the images to which [Defendant] is
    attracted because of the offense conduct associated with child pornography.
    And so I believe that the -- that it is more probable than not that the
    defendant engaged in a pattern of activity, which is at least two, involving
    the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors.
    With that conclusion, I’ll accept the Presentence Report’s findings of fact
    and put the following guideline calculation on the 
    record. 8 Rawle at 164
    . I think it quite significant that the only finding by the court was its acceptance
    of the PSR’s findings. It never said what it believed had occurred between Defendant
    and JH or CP; it relied on their remarkably unreliable statements only to support the PSR
    because the statements, in some general way, correlated with the PSR. There is a big
    difference between saying that the interviews supported the PSR and saying that the most
    extreme allegations recited in the interviews are true. The district court did not say the
    latter.
    Because the record clearly shows that the district court applied an incorrect
    interpretation of USSG § 2G2.2(b)(5) when it imposed the sentence enhancement on
    Defendant, I would reverse and remand for resentencing.
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