Andrea Gogel v. KIA Motors Manufacturing of Georgia, Inc. ( 2020 )


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  •         Case: 16-16850   Date Filed: 07/29/2020   Page: 1 of 150
    [PUBLISH]
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
    ________________________
    No. 16-16850
    ________________________
    D.C. Docket No. 3:14-cv-00153-TCB
    ANDREA GOGEL,
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    versus
    KIA MOTORS MANUFACTURING OF
    GEORGIA, INC.,
    Defendant-Appellee.
    ________________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Northern District of Georgia
    ________________________
    (July 29, 2020)
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    Before WILLIAM PRYOR, Chief Judge, WILSON, MARTIN, JORDAN,
    ROSENBAUM, JILL PRYOR, BRANCH, GRANT, TJOFLAT,∗ ED CARNES,∗∗
    MARCUS,∗∗∗ and JULIE CARNES,∗∗∗∗ Circuit Judges.∗∗∗∗∗
    BRANCH, Circuit Judge, delivered the opinion of the Court, in which WILLIAM
    PRYOR, Chief Judge, GRANT, TJOFLAT, ED CARNES, MARCUS, and JULIE
    CARNES, Circuit Judges, joined.
    WILLIAM PRYOR, Chief Judge, filed a concurring opinion.
    JORDAN, Circuit Judge, filed an opinion concurring in the judgment.
    WILSON, Circuit Judge, filed an opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part.
    MARTIN, Circuit Judge, filed a dissenting opinion, in which ROSENBAUM and
    JILL PRYOR, Circuit Judges, joined.
    ROSENBAUM, Circuit Judge, filed a dissenting opinion, in which MARTIN and
    JILL PRYOR, Circuit Judges, joined.
    ∗  We heard this case en banc while Judge Tjoflat was an active judge, and he elected to
    continue to participate in the decision of this case after becoming a senior circuit judge. See
    Eleventh Circuit Rule 35-9 (“Senior circuit judges of the Eleventh Circuit . . . may continue to
    participate in the decision of a case that was heard or reheard by the court en banc at a time when
    such judge was in regular active service.”).
    ∗∗ We heard this case en banc while Judge Ed Carnes was an active judge, and he elected
    to continue to participate in the decision of this case after becoming a senior circuit judge. See
    Eleventh Circuit Rule 35-9 (“Senior circuit judges of the Eleventh Circuit . . . may continue to
    participate in the decision of a case that was heard or reheard by the court en banc at a time when
    such judge was in regular active service.”).
    ∗∗∗ We heard this case en banc while Judge Marcus was an active judge, and he elected to
    continue to participate in the decision of this case after becoming a senior circuit judge. See
    Eleventh Circuit Rule 35-9.
    ∗∗∗∗ Senior Circuit Judge Julie Carnes elected to participate in this decision pursuant to
    28 U.S.C. § 46(c).
    ∗∗∗∗∗ Judge Newsom is recused. Judge Robert J. Luck joined the Court on November 19,
    2019 and did not participate in this decision. Similarly, Judge Barbara Lagoa joined the Court on
    December 6, 2019 and did not participate in this decision. Likewise, Judge Andrew Brasher
    joined the Court on June 30, 2020 and did not participate in this decision.
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    BRANCH, Circuit Judge:
    After being fired by Kia Motors Manufacturing Georgia, Inc. (“Kia”),
    Andrea Gogel sued her former employer, asserting claims for gender and national-
    origin discrimination and retaliation under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of
    1964, 42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e-2(a) and 2000e-3(a), and 42 U.S.C. § 1981. The district
    court granted summary judgment in favor of Kia on all claims, and Gogel appealed
    to our court. A panel of this Court affirmed as to Gogel’s discrimination claims,1
    but the majority opinion reversed the district court’s grant of summary judgment as
    to Gogel’s claim that Kia fired her in retaliation for her exercise of protected
    conduct. Gogel v. Kia Motors Mfg. of Ga., Inc., 
    904 F.3d 1226
    (11th Cir. 2018),
    vacated, 
    926 F.3d 1290
    (11th Cir. 2019) (granting rehearing en banc). One
    member of the panel dissented as to the reversal of summary judgment in favor of
    Kia on Gogel’s retaliation claim. See 
    Gogel, 904 F.3d at 1239
    –48.
    We granted rehearing en banc to consider whether the district court erred in
    granting summary judgment on Gogel’s claim that she was fired in retaliation for
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    Gogel alleged that she had been fired both because of her sex and national origin and in
    retaliation for protected activity. Concluding that there was no evidence that a discriminatory
    motive based on Gogel’s sex or national origin led to her being fired, the panel opinion held that
    summary judgment was warranted as to any termination claim based on those grounds. Gogel v.
    Kia Motors Mfg. of Ga., Inc., 
    904 F.3d 1226
    , 1239 (11th Cir. 2018), vacated, 
    926 F.3d 1290
    (11th Cir. 2019) (granting rehearing en banc). Gogel also alleged that Kia had discriminated
    against her based on her sex and national origin when it failed to characterize her Team Relations
    manager position as being Head of Department. The panel opinion concluded that Gogel
    abandoned this claim on appeal.
    Id. at 1233
    n.3. We agree with and adopt both of these rulings
    by the panel.
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    engaging in protected conduct. After careful review of the record and having the
    benefit of oral argument, we affirm the grant of summary judgment as to Gogel’s
    retaliation claim under Title VII and § 1981.
    I.      BACKGROUND 2
    Formed in 2006 and located in the rural community of West Point, Georgia,3
    Kia is a subsidiary of the Korean Kia Motors Corporation, whose president and
    CEO at the time was Byung Mo Ahn. Each department within the company had a
    Korean coordinator who worked in tandem with the American managers at Kia.
    The Korean coordinators were hired by the parent Kia company in South Korea
    and served three- to four-year assignments at the local Kia before being rotated
    out. These Korean coordinators were heavily involved in decision-making at Kia.4
    As for the American management, Randy Jackson, a white American male,
    was initially hired as the director of Human Resources and thereafter promoted to
    Senior Vice President of Human Resources and Administration. In effect, Jackson
    2
    Because we hear this appeal following a grant of summary judgment in favor of Kia, we
    take the facts of this case in the light most favorable to Gogel. Essex Ins. Co. v. Barrett Moving
    & Storage, Inc., 
    885 F.3d 1292
    , 1299 (11th Cir. 2018).
    3
    West Point, Georgia is located 81 miles from Atlanta, 81 miles from Montgomery,
    Alabama, and 135 miles from Birmingham, Alabama.
    4
    As will be discussed further in this opinion, because of the Korean coordinators’
    significant involvement in the decision-making at Kia, tensions developed as some American
    managers came to resent what they perceived as a lack of respect for and deference to the
    American managers’ input.
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    was the chief administrative officer for Kia. Human Resources was divided into
    two units: a unit that handled the administrative end of employee relations, such as
    hiring, background checks, and payroll (hereinafter “HR”), and the Team Relations
    unit, which handled virtually every other aspect of employee relations once an
    employee was on board, including the receipt of allegations by employees of
    harassment and discrimination, as well as the investigation of those allegations.
    Robert Tyler, a white American male, was selected as the manager of the HR
    department. Gogel, a white American female, was hired in 2008 as Kia’s Team
    Relations Department Manager, with three assistant managers who reported
    directly to her. As the manager of Team Relations, she oversaw all of these
    investigations and reported back to Jackson with the results and her
    recommendations.
    The events giving rise to the specific issue before us began during the tenure
    of an employee named Diana Ledbetter, a white American female hired in 2008 as
    a staff member of Kia’s General Affairs department. The General Affairs
    department was responsible for a variety of miscellaneous operational duties,
    including overseeing the cafeteria, office furniture, office supplies and machinery,
    and janitorial services. The General Affairs department was also responsible for
    special events, including “celebration functions,” “dinners or any kind of
    conferences or any kind of meetings,” catering, flowers, and the like. Ledbetter
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    had been hired as a General Affairs specialist and told that she would be
    responsible for “Protocol and Events.” These events often involved visits by the
    Korean president of the company, Mr. Ahn, and other Korean officials. As to
    protocol, the events were designed to be consistent with the protocol followed for
    such dignitaries in Korea. And it was this protocol to which Ledbetter objected.
    Specifically, she was asked to pour wine for the Korean executives at these events
    and, upon their arrival at the plant, to hold flowers and say, “Welcome, Chairman.”
    As a result, some unidentified co-workers teased her as being a “geisha.”
    Ledbetter disliked having to perform these duties. In addition, Ledbetter
    told Gogel that she believed that Ledbetter’s supervisor, K.M., 5 a black American
    female, was involved in a romantic relationship with President Ahn. This alleged
    relationship was of concern to Ledbetter because she believed this relationship
    enabled K.M. “to improperly use her position of manager to control subordinate
    employees” like Ledbetter. Ledbetter spoke to Gogel and others about this issue
    and requested that she be transferred away from K.M.’s supervision. Jackson
    agreed to transfer Ledbetter to Team Relations but told her that she had a better
    chance of a promotion if she stayed in General Affairs. Her dislike of working
    under K.M. notwithstanding, Ledbetter decided she would rather stay in General
    5
    For purposes of this opinion, we refer to Ledbetter’s supervisor by her initials “K.M.”
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    Affairs with the prospect of a promotion. In September 2010 she was designated
    the “acting” assistant manager of General Affairs. Nonetheless, Ledbetter
    continued to ask Gogel to investigate what she believed to be an inappropriate
    relationship between K.M. and Ahn.
    In fact, Gogel sought permission from Jackson in late 2008 to investigate the
    relationship between President Ahn and K.M. because of the possibility that K.M.
    might be “utilizing th[e] relationship to the detriment of others” and that K.M.
    might not have fully consented to the relationship. Gogel was concerned about
    “the risk that [the relationship] could create for the company” and she wanted to
    investigate the issue to make sure that the company was not “at risk” from “people
    being treated in a way differently than they should be treated, from a legal and an
    ethical perspective.” Accordingly, she asked Jackson if she could conduct an
    investigation as to whether President Ahn and K.M. were having an affair.
    Jackson declined to authorize such an investigation.
    Shortly thereafter, Kevin Kim, the Korean Coordinator for HR and
    Jackson’s counterpart, asked Gogel to investigate K.M. secretly regarding her
    treatment of other team members and whether there was any “falsification of time”
    on her part, but he did not direct an investigation regarding President Ahn. Kim
    directed Gogel not to reveal this investigation to Jackson. Within a few weeks,
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    however, Kim asked Gogel to stop the investigation and to destroy any information
    she had gathered related to the investigation.
    In March 2009, Jackson designated Tyler as the Head of Department
    (“HOD”) over both Team Relations and HR and indicated that this new title was
    based on Tyler’s years of experience and longevity with Kia. Given the significant
    responsibilities of her position, Gogel objected that she was not likewise
    designated as an HOD over Team Relations.6
    After Gogel was not given a head of department designation in 2009, she
    met with Jackson and Tyler and informed them that she believed she did not
    receive the HOD title because of her gender and that there was a gender issue
    within the company. Indeed, as her complaint recounts, Gogel believed that the
    Korean management held antiquated views about the role of women in the
    workplace, generally, and that as to Gogel, specifically, she was not sufficiently
    listened to or respected by the Korean managers.
    In August 2010, Jackson sent Gogel an email asking for her thoughts on how
    the Team Relations department could be improved. Gogel sent two lengthy emails
    in response that Jackson summarized as stating that “her department was being
    hampered by micro-management from people who did not understand the work
    6
    This grievance constituted a substantial part of the basis for her claim of national origin
    and sex discrimination, which claim she has now abandoned on appeal.
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    being performed, did not respect her successes or the passion she brought to her
    job, and did not give her the freedom that she regarded ‘as a basic aspect of being
    an American and working in an American environment.’” Having received this
    and other input indicating that American managers felt they were not being given
    appropriate decision-making authority, Jackson asked Tyler to gather information
    as to the concerns of American management, including some specific factual
    examples.
    Conferring with Gogel and some other members of American management,
    Tyler drafted and presented a lengthy Report of Concerns, setting out the American
    managers’ unhappiness with the Korean managers and the lack of deference and
    respect they believed these managers showed their American counterparts. This
    report was delivered to Jackson in late September 2010. On October 12, 2010,
    Jackson attempted to speak to Gogel about the concerns expressed in the report,
    but she indicated her discomfort speaking to Jackson and instead indicated that she
    would prefer to talk to an independent or outside investigator. A couple of days
    later, however, Gogel met with Jackson. The meeting ended when Jackson had
    another appointment. Thereafter, Gogel sent an email to Jackson, Tyler, Webb,
    and one of the Korean coordinators, explaining that Tyler had informed her that the
    matter was closed because “it was difficult to address issues that [Gogel] would not
    give information about.” Gogel expressed her disagreement with the
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    characterization that she was uncooperative and noted that Jackson was the one
    who ended the interview. Further, she asserted that she told Jackson she would
    answer any questions he had, but he did not follow up with her. Gogel requested
    an independent investigation into her concerns.
    Thereafter, on November 10, 2010, Gogel filed her first charge with the
    Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (“EEOC”), alleging that she was not
    awarded an HOD designation due to gender and national origin discrimination.
    Kia received this charge on November 22, 2010. On November 19, 2010, Tyler
    also filed a charge with the EEOC, alleging national origin discrimination and
    retaliation.
    Given the sensitivity of Gogel’s and Tyler’s positions and their special
    access to the plant’s entire workforce, Jackson and Kia general counsel Charles
    Webb requested on Friday, December 3, 2010, that Gogel and Tyler each sign an
    agreement to prevent any misuse of their positions in their continuing interactions
    with employees.7 As relevant to the present appeal, this agreement provided that
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    Tyler signed the agreement on that same day, December 3. Tyler nonetheless violated
    this agreement on two separate occasions, when he downloaded dozens of documents. See Tyler
    v. Kia Motors Mfg. Ga., Inc., 702 F. App’x 945, 948 (11th Cir. 2017); Tyler v. Kia Motors Mfg.
    Ga., Inc., 
    2016 WL 9663168
    , at *8–9 (N.D. Ga. Aug. 1, 2016). Learning of this conduct, Kia
    initiated an investigation into Tyler’s computer activities and discovered that Tyler had
    forwarded hundreds of emails from Kia networks to his personal email accounts. Tyler, 
    2016 WL 9663168
    , at *9. Kia suspended Tyler and ultimately terminated him on January 6, 2011,
    stating in the termination letter that Kia “ha[d] lost confidence in [his] trustworthiness and
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    Gogel would neither “use [her] position to solicit or influence Team Members to
    make claims against [Kia]” nor would she “make any written or verbal statements
    to Team Members that malign the company.” 8
    Expressing discomfort about signing the agreement until her lawyer could
    first review it, Gogel initially refused to sign the agreement and was placed on
    administrative leave. On Monday, December 6, 2010, which was the next business
    day, Gogel signed the agreement.9 She was allowed to return to work that same
    day. On December 16, 2010, Gogel requested four additional days off (from
    therefore, [Kia] ha[d] no alternative but to discharge [him] immediately.”
    Id. (internal quotation marks
    omitted).
    Tyler subsequently sued, alleging retaliatory termination in violation of Title VII and
    § 1981. The district court granted summary judgment to Kia. On appeal, we affirmed the grant
    of summary judgment, concluding that even though Tyler’s filing of an EEOC charge constituted
    protected activity, his violation of the agreement constituted a neutral, non-retaliatory reason for
    terminating him, and that Tyler had failed to show that this ground was pretextual. Tyler, 702 F.
    App’x at 949–52.
    8
    The agreement provided:
    By signing below, I agree as follows:
    A. I will not discuss my EEOC charge or similar claims against [Kia] with Team
    Members and will not use my position to solicit or influence Team Members
    to make claims against [Kia];
    B. I will not put any Team Members, including my reports, in any conflict of
    interest by seeking their assistance in any fact finding or any information
    gathering related to my claim against [Kia];
    C. I will not make any written or verbal statements to Team Members that
    malign the company; and
    D. I will not seek access to any files or documents that relate in any way to the
    merits of my claim or similar claims against [Kia].
    9
    We note that there is nothing in the record that indicates that Gogel contested any of the
    agreement’s terms.
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    January 4, 2011 through January 7, 2011), which Jackson approved. Then, on
    December 22, 2010, Kia gave Gogel a discretionary $12,000 bonus and Jackson,
    who handed her the check, told her she was doing a good job and shook her hand.
    Things changed dramatically on December 23, however. Unbeknownst to
    Jackson, on December 10, 2010, Diane Ledbetter had filed her own EEOC charge
    asserting a claim of discrimination based on her sex, national origin, and
    “Caucasian” race. She also alleged the creation of a hostile work environment
    based on the job duties she was assigned, Kia’s refusal to transfer her to her
    preferred department, Kia’s refusal to investigate whether a co-worker had
    received a promotion because she was having a sexual relationship with a
    supervisor, and being told by some Korean managers that “good mothers stay at
    home and don’t work.”
    On the afternoon of December 23, Jackson received written notice of
    Ledbetter’s EEOC charge. The charge itself indicated that it was faxed from the
    same law firm that Gogel and Tyler were using in the litigation of their own
    charges: an Atlanta law firm named Barrett & Farahany. Jackson explained in his
    deposition that “it was very concerning” and “very puzzl[ing]” to him that
    Ledbetter happened to choose the “same law firm” as Gogel and Tyler. Concerned
    that Gogel and Tyler were now “recruiting” other employees to sue the company,
    Jackson quickly emailed his Korean counterpart, Kim, to alert him and President
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    Ahn that it appeared that Gogel and Tyler were recruiting other employees to sue
    Kia. Jackson explained in his deposition that he was so shaken by the possibility
    that Gogel might be recruiting employees to sue Kia because, as Team Relations
    manager, Gogel was responsible for trying to resolve employee complaints
    internally, not to recruit employees to sue the company.
    Immediately after Jackson received notification on December 23 of
    Ledbetter’s EEOC charge, the Kia plant closed for the Christmas holidays.
    Thereafter, when the plant reopened during the first week of January 2011, and
    while Gogel was still on vacation, one of Gogel’s subordinates, Arthur Williams,
    approached Jackson and general counsel Webb and expressed concerns regarding
    the conduct of Gogel and Tyler. Williams, a black American male, was one of
    three assistant managers working under Gogel in the Team Relations department,
    and he enjoyed a friendly relationship with Ledbetter. According to Williams,
    during October or November 2010 he noticed that Gogel and Ledbetter were
    meeting at various times. Then, at some point in November, Ledbetter confided in
    Williams that she, Gogel, and Tyler were planning to sue the company and were all
    working with the same attorney to do so.
    After this revelation by Ledbetter, Williams began “paying close attention”
    and observed frequent meetings between Gogel and Ledbetter, as well as three to
    five meetings between Gogel, Ledbetter, and Tyler. Sometimes the meetings
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    between Gogel and Ledbetter would last from morning until lunch, and after the
    weekly Friday afternoon meetings, Gogel and Ledbetter would sometimes stay
    behind, continuing to meet privately even as Williams left for the evening between
    5 and 6 p.m. All the while, Ledbetter kept telling Williams that she, Gogel, and
    Tyler were going to sue and use the same attorney. Further, Ledbetter indicated to
    Williams that Gogel was the ringleader and the catalyst for the trio’s decision to
    take legal action. All of these developments were startling to Williams because
    Gogel’s and Tyler’s conduct was so at odds with the mission of the Team
    Relations department to try to “keep lawsuits from happening,” not to instigate
    them.
    Williams conveyed the above information to Jackson and Webb when he
    met with them in January. In short, Jackson learned from Williams that Gogel and
    Tyler were frequently meeting with and actively encouraging Ledbetter to sue Kia,
    that they were coordinating through the use of the same lawyer, and that Gogel was
    the leader of these endeavors.10 Jackson likewise thought it “very strange” that
    Gogel and Ledbetter had been engaging in such frequent meetings. Williams
    10
    When asked in his deposition whether he had indicated to Jackson and Webb that
    Gogel was the leader, Williams responded to the effect that that he had just “repeated [] what
    Diana [Ledbetter] told me” and that what Ledbetter “was telling” Williams was that “they were
    all filing and they all had the same attorney” and that Gogel was the “leader.” Williams
    understood Gogel to be the “catalyst” for the bringing of the EEOC charges because Ledbetter
    had led him to believe that Gogel was the “ringleader.”
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    further informed Jackson that Gogel exhibited a strong animus against the Korean
    management team and that she “hated the Koreans.”
    In addition, another assistant Team Relations manager, Paul Grimes, a black
    American male, also met with Jackson during this same period of time, and he
    corroborated some of the information provided by Williams. Grimes confirmed
    that Williams told him that Ledbetter, Gogel, and Tyler were going to sue the
    company and that they were trying to “persuade” Ledbetter to “join them in suing”
    Kia. Like Williams, Grimes was incredulous that Gogel and Tyler would behave
    in this way, but he nonetheless started “paying attention,” and noticed “suspicious
    meetings behind closed doors.” He informed Jackson and Webb that “the entire
    [Team Relations] department was wondering what was occurring with Diana
    [Ledbetter] meeting with Andrea [Gogel] for such long periods of time” and that
    “[t]hey would meet as often as three times a week and for several hours.” Further,
    “[a]s [the] time approached when they filed their charges,” Gogel, Tyler, and
    Ledbetter “were meeting nearly every day . . . for 1-1.5 hours.” 11
    Having received the above information from Williams and Grimes, on
    January 7, 2011, Jackson and Webb called Gogel in for a meeting. They began by
    stating that Webb needed information concerning Ledbetter in order to respond to
    11
    Ledbetter disputes some of the statements attributed to her and Gogel disputes the
    accuracy of some of Williams’ and Grimes’ testimony. See infra at 54 n.24. We discuss those
    disputes and the extent to which they are relevant to our ultimate decision later in this opinion.
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    the latter’s recent EEOC charge. During this meeting, they inquired whether
    Gogel had “colluded” with Ledbetter and whether she had violated the December
    6 agreement. The discussion focused on Gogel’s relationship with Ledbetter,
    meetings she had with Ledbetter, and what her conversations had been with
    Ledbetter. Gogel denied having any significant interactions with Ledbetter,
    explaining that her recent meetings had concerned only trivial operational
    issues. 12
    Jackson placed Gogel on administrative leave following the January 7, 2011
    meeting and ultimately terminated her employment on January 19, stating in his
    deposition, “I was totally convinced that [Gogel] had solicited and encouraged
    other team members to file a lawsuit against the company. I had lost total
    confidence and trust in her to perform her jobs, her job duties that she was hired to
    do, and I could not continue her employment with Kia.” The formal termination
    letter provided as follows:
    As you know, your position as Manager of Team Relations in
    Human Resources is critically important to [Kia]. One of your
    primary duties is to investigate potential discrimination or harassment
    claims, either personally or by directly supervising those conducting
    the investigations, in order to protect [Kia] by taking prompt action
    when warranted. You and [Kia] previously recognized the potential
    for conflict of interest in the discharge of your duties, and on
    12
    During this litigation, however, Gogel admitted to telling Ledbetter that she did not
    trust the people at Kia “to listen to or deal with any concerns” and that Gogel was planning
    “to seek outside assistance” regarding her own complaints against Kia. Gogel also concedes
    that she provided Ledbetter with the name of the attorney with whom Gogel had chosen to
    meet.
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    December 6, 2010, you signed the attached [agreement]. In this
    document you agreed that you would not solicit or influence team
    members to make claims against [Kia], you would not put any team
    members in a conflict of interest, you would not make any written or
    verbal statements to team members that malign the company, and that
    you would not seek to access files or documents that relate in any way
    to the merits of your claims.
    As we discussed on January 7, 2011, Diana Ledbetter filed a
    cha[r]ge of discrimination against [Kia] on December 10, 2010. Part
    of this charge alludes to claims that [Kia], including Human
    Resources, did not properly investigate her complaints against [Kia].
    In investigating this charge, [Kia] received credible reports that
    [Ledbetter] discussed her intent to file a claim with you in advance of
    doing so, that you did not attempt to encourage [her] to internalize the
    complaint (rather than to externalize the complaint), and that you did
    not notify [Kia] about the likely filing of a charge by another
    individual. You were seen by multiple people having numerous,
    lengthy private conferences with Ms. Ledbetter during the last two-
    three months, yet you denied having any significant recent interaction
    with her. Based on our investigation, one could conclude that you
    encouraged or even solicited the filing of the charge. At the very
    least, there is an appearance of a conflict of interest sufficient to cause
    [Kia] to lose confidence in the loyalty and trust that is required by
    your position.
    Also, since your administrative leave began, we have received
    additional reports from within your department and elsewhere which
    caused [Kia] to lose faith in you as a manager. Team Members fear
    retaliation from you, find inappropriate your stated and demonstrated
    personal dislike for many of the managers at [Kia], and are concerned
    by your demonstrated animus toward the Korean culture at [Kia].
    Finally, some of the Team Members you supervise perceive that you
    do not support [Kia’s] positive conciliatory approach to dealing with
    issues, but instead prefer a combative win-lose approach which often
    escalates issues unnecessarily.
    Therefore, [Kia] has no alternative but to discharge you
    immediately.
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    Following her termination, Gogel filed a second EEOC charge in which she
    alleged retaliation by Kia. Specifically, Gogel stated that she had been discharged,
    that Kia said it had discharged her for encouraging another employee to file a
    charge of discrimination with the EEOC, and that she believed she had been
    retaliated against due to her opposition to unlawful acts under Title VII. Kia
    subsequently filed its position statement with the EEOC regarding the second
    charge, explaining that Gogel “was responsible for conducting and overseeing
    investigations, administering corrective action, and evaluating and improving team
    member morale. . . . [Gogel] was also responsible for investigating and correcting
    any and all complaints of harassment and discrimination in the workplace.” Kia
    explained that after receiving notice of Gogel’s first EEOC charge, it had her sign
    the December 6 agreement “[i]n an attempt to protect [Kia’s] team members and
    proprietary information.” Thereafter, upon receiving Ledbetter’s EEOC charge
    and conducting an investigation, Kia discovered from other employees that
    Ledbetter and Gogel had met several times, yet Gogel denied these interactions
    when questioned. Further, Kia noted that “there were no reports of discrimination
    documented or investigations opened regarding Ledbetter during the time period in
    question. [Gogel] did not attempt to defuse the situation or handle it in any manner
    in which she was employed to do.” Moreover, “after the meetings with [Gogel],
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    Ledbetter contacted [Gogel’s] attorney for representation purposes.” Finally, Kia
    noted that:
    [i]t became obvious to [Kia] that [Gogel] was blatantly dishonest
    when explicitly questioned about Diana Ledbetter. Further, she did
    not perform her job, but instead encouraged a team member to sue
    [Kia] and seek outside counsel to deal with her discrimination charge
    instead of handling it in-house. This was clearly a breach of trust, a
    conflict of interest, and a blatant failure to perform her job duties.
    Accordingly, [Gogel] was terminated on January 19, 2011.
    After receiving a right to sue notice from the EEOC, Gogel filed the
    underlying action. In her amended complaint, Gogel alleged in relevant part that
    Kia terminated her in retaliation for her filing of the first EEOC charge. The
    parties filed cross-motions for summary judgment, and the district court denied
    Gogel’s motion and granted Kia’s motion. With regard to the retaliation claim, the
    district court concluded that Kia did not fire Gogel in retaliation for conduct
    protected by Title VII, but instead fired her for a legitimate reason: solicitation of a
    subordinate to file an EEOC charge against Kia, in contravention of her job
    responsibilities. Gogel appealed, contending that the district court erred in
    granting summary judgment for two main reasons: (A) there is a triable issue of
    fact as to whether the real reason Kia fired Gogel was because she had filed her
    own EEOC charge, not because she solicited another employee to sue the
    company, and (B) Kia’s stated reason for terminating Gogel’s employment—
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    Gogel’s alleged solicitation of Ledbetter—was itself protected conduct under Title
    VII’s opposition clause and could not justify Gogel’s termination.
    II.    STANDARD OF REVIEW
    We review a district court’s grant of summary judgment de novo, “view[ing]
    the evidence in the light most favorable to the non-moving party.” Thomas v.
    Cooper Lighting, Inc., 
    506 F.3d 1361
    , 1363 (11th Cir. 2007). Although “questions
    of fact in job discrimination cases are ‘both sensitive and difficult’ and ‘[t]here will
    seldom be “eyewitness” testimony as to the employer’s mental processes,’ . . .
    ‘none of this means that trial courts or reviewing courts should treat discrimination
    differently from other ultimate questions of fact.” Chapman v. AI Transp., 
    229 F.3d 1012
    , 1026 (11th Cir. 2000) (en banc) (quoting St. Mary’s Honor Ctr. v.
    Hicks, 
    509 U.S. 502
    , 524 (1993)) (first alteration in original). In other words, “the
    summary judgment rule applies in job discrimination cases just as in other cases.”
    Id. Summary judgment is
    proper if the evidence shows “that there is no genuine
    dispute as to any material fact and the movant is entitled to judgment as a matter of
    law.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(a). Further, “[a] mere ‘scintilla’ of evidence supporting
    the opposing party’s position will not suffice; there must be enough of a showing
    that the jury could reasonably find for that party.” Walker v. Darby, 
    911 F.2d 1573
    , 1577 (11th Cir. 1990); see also Matsushita Elec. Indus. Co., Ltd. v. Zenith
    Radio Corp., 
    475 U.S. 574
    , 587 (1986) (“Where the record taken as a whole could
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    not lead a rational trier of fact to find for the non-moving party, there is no
    ‘genuine issue for trial.’” (quoting First Nat’l Bank of Ariz. v. Cities Serv. Co., 
    391 U.S. 253
    , 289 (1968))).
    III.   DISCUSSION
    Title VII prohibits an employer from retaliating against “any . . . employee[]
    . . . because [s]he has opposed any practice made an unlawful employment
    practice” by Title VII, “or because [s]he has made a charge, testified, assisted, or
    participated in any manner in an investigation, proceeding, or hearing under
    [Title VII].” 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-3(a). The first part of the anti-retaliation
    provision is known as the “opposition clause” and the second part as the
    “participation clause.” See E.E.O.C. v. Total Sys. Servs., Inc., 
    221 F.3d 1171
    , 1174
    (11th Cir. 2000). Retaliation claims are also cognizable under 42 U.S.C. § 1981
    and are analyzed under the same framework as Title VII claims. See CBOCS W.,
    Inc. v. Humphries, 
    553 U.S. 442
    , 452–57 (2008); Standard v. A.B.E.L. Servs., Inc.,
    
    161 F.3d 1318
    , 1330 (11th Cir. 1998).
    To make a prima facie case for a claim of retaliation under Title VII, a
    plaintiff must first show (1) that “she engaged in statutorily protected activity,”
    (2) that “she suffered an adverse action,” and (3) “that the adverse action was
    causally related to the protected activity.” Jefferson v. Sewon Am., Inc., 
    891 F.3d 21
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    911, 924 (11th Cir. 2018); Bryant v. Jones, 
    575 F.3d 1281
    , 1307–08 (11th Cir.
    2009).
    Once the prima facie case is established, it creates a “presumption that the
    adverse action was the product of an intent to retaliate.” 
    Bryant, 575 F.3d at 1308
    .
    The burden of production then shifts to the employer to rebut the presumption by
    articulating a legitimate, non-discriminatory reason for the employment action.
    Id. I
    f the employer 
    produces such a reason, the presumption is rebutted, and the
    plaintiff must then demonstrate that the “proffered reason was merely a pretext to
    mask [retaliatory] actions.”
    Id. To establish the
    necessary causation, a plaintiff
    must demonstrate that “her protected activity was a but-for cause of the alleged
    adverse action by the employer.” Univ. of Tx. Sw. Med. Ctr. v. Nassar, 
    570 U.S. 338
    , 362 (2013). In other words, “a plaintiff must prove that had she not [engaged
    in the protected conduct], she would not have been fired.” 
    Jefferson, 891 F.3d at 924
    . “Importantly, throughout this entire process, the ultimate burden of
    persuasion remains on the employee.” Sims v. MVM, Inc., 
    704 F.3d 1327
    , 1333
    (11th Cir. 2013).
    A. Summary Judgment is Warranted on Gogel’s Retaliation Claim
    Alleging that She Was Fired Because She Filed An EEOC Charge
    In support of her retaliation claim, Gogel contends that the real reason Kia
    fired her was because she had filed an EEOC charge—which is clearly protected
    conduct under Title VII’s participation clause—not because she solicited another
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    employee to sue the company. In other words, Gogel argues that Kia’s stated
    reason for her termination—her recruitment of a subordinate to sue the company—
    is a pretext intended to mask its true reason for taking this action. This argument is
    without merit.
    Kia concedes, and we will likewise assume, that Gogel established a prima
    facie case as to her retaliation claim based on her filing of the first EEOC charge.
    Specifically, (1) the filing of her first EEOC charge constituted protected conduct;
    (2) thereafter, Gogel was fired; and (3) there was a causal connection between the
    two events sufficient to withstand the requirements for making a prima facie case,
    which has traditionally required a showing “that the protected activity and the
    adverse action were not wholly unrelated.”13 Goldsmith v. Bagby Elevator Co.,
    13
    As noted, for purposes of proving causality in a Title VII retaliation claim, the
    Supreme Court in Nassar held that a plaintiff must prove that but for the protected conduct, the
    defendant would not have taken the particular adverse action. We and other circuit courts have
    integrated this but-for standard into our summary judgment analysis. See Knox v. Roper Pump
    Co., 
    957 F.3d 1237
    , 1245 (11th Cir. 2020); 
    Jefferson, 891 F.3d at 924
    ; cf. Nesbitt v. Candler
    Cty., 
    945 F.3d 1355
    , 1359 (11th Cir. 2020) (applying the “but for” test to a summary judgment
    decision involving the antiretaliation provision of the False Claims Act).
    Circuit courts, however, have been inconsistent on the question whether Nassar’s but-for
    causation standard applies at the prima facie stage of the summary judgment analysis or whether
    it is at the pretext stage of the analysis when the plaintiff must satisfy this standard. Compare
    Foster v. Univ. of Md.-E. Shore, 
    787 F.3d 243
    , 252 (4th Cir. 2015) (a plaintiff must show at the
    pretext stage “that retaliation was the real reason for the adverse employment action” and that the
    adverse action “would not have occurred in the absence of—that is, but for—the defendant’s
    conduct.” (alteration adopted) (internal quotation marks omitted)); Garcia v. Prof. Contract
    Serv., Inc., 
    938 F.3d 236
    , 243 (5th Cir. 2019) (a plaintiff must satisfy the Nassar but-for test at
    the pretext stage of the analysis); Carvalho-Grevious v. Del. State Univ., 
    851 F.3d 249
    , 258–59
    (3d Cir. 2017) (likewise requiring the plaintiff to satisfy the but-for test at the pretext stage of the
    analysis) with Mollet v. City of Greenfield, 
    926 F.3d 894
    , 896–97 (7th Cir. 2019) (applying the
    Nassar but-for test at the prima facie stage); Bekkem v. Wilkie, 
    915 F.3d 1258
    , 1271 (10th Cir.
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    513 F.3d 1261
    , 1277–78 (11th Cir. 2008) (quoting Simmons v. Camden Cty. Bd. of
    Educ., 
    757 F.2d 1187
    , 1189 (11th Cir. 1985)). The burden of production then
    shifted to Kia to articulate a legitimate, non-retaliatory reason for firing Gogel.
    Kia articulated such a reason. Specifically, Kia explained that it fired Gogel not
    because she filed an EEOC charge, but because she had recruited another
    employee to sue the company, which conduct Kia believed to have rendered Gogel
    ineffective in her position as Team Relations manager.14 Thus, Kia rebutted the
    presumption, arising from Gogel’s prima facie showing, that the adverse action
    was the product of an intent to retaliate. 
    Bryant, 575 F.3d at 1308
    .
    Therefore, to defeat summary judgment, Gogel had to demonstrate that
    Kia’s proffered reason for its decision—Gogel’s solicitation of Ledbetter to sue
    Kia—was merely a pretext to mask its real reason—Gogel’s filing of an EEOC
    charge—and that but for this latter action Kia would not have fired her. We have
    2019) (same); Redlin v. Grosse Point Pub. Sch. Sys., 
    921 F.3d 599
    , 614–15 (6th Cir.
    2019)(implying that the Nassar test applies at the prima facie stage).
    In Jefferson, we did not squarely address whether the but-for test should apply at the
    prima facie or pretext stage of analysis, but we did remark that, in the summary judgment
    context, the question was whether a reasonable jury could find that the employer’s “explanation
    was pretextual and that [the plaintiff’s] complaint was the ‘but-for cause’ of her termination.”
    
    Jefferson, 891 F.3d at 925
    . In Roper, we also applied Nassar’s but-for standard when discussing
    whether a reasonable jury could find that the plaintiff was terminated based on his protected
    activity, a question that arises during the pretext stage of analysis. 
    Roper, 957 F.3d at 1245
    –46.
    Likewise, we will assume here that the but-for test is to be applied at the pretext stage of the
    summary judgment examination, and our analysis so proceeds under this assumption.
    14
    We address in subsection B Gogel’s contention that her alleged recruitment of
    Ledbetter was itself protected conduct under Title VII and therefore could not justify her
    termination.
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    repeatedly emphasized that “[p]rovided . . . the proffered reason is one that might
    motivate a reasonable employer, an employee must meet that reason head on and
    rebut it . . . .” 
    Chapman, 229 F.3d at 1030
    ; see also Hornsby-Culpepper v. Ware,
    
    906 F.3d 1302
    , 1312 (11th Cir. 2018); Ash v. Tyson Foods, Inc., 
    664 F.3d 883
    ,
    892–93 (11th Cir. 2011); Alvarez v. Royal Atl. Dev., Inc., 
    610 F.3d 1253
    , 1265–66
    (11th Cir. 2010); Wilson v. B/E Aerospace, Inc., 
    376 F.3d 1079
    , 1088 (11th Cir.
    2004). Thus, to establish pretext at the summary judgment stage, a plaintiff must
    demonstrate “such weaknesses, implausibilities, inconsistencies, incoherencies, or
    contradictions in the employer’s proffered legitimate reasons for its action that a
    reasonable factfinder could find them unworthy of credence.” Jackson v. Ala.
    State Tenure Comm’n, 
    405 F.3d 1276
    , 1289 (11th Cir. 2005) (quoting Combs v.
    Plantation Patterns, 
    106 F.3d 1519
    , 1538 (11th Cir. 1997)). “[A] reason is not
    pretext for [retaliation] ‘unless it is shown both that the reason was false, and that
    [retaliation] was the real reason.’” Springer v. Convergys Customer Mgmt. Grp.
    Inc., 
    509 F.3d 1344
    , 1349 (11th Cir. 2007) (quoting Brooks v. Cty. Comm’n of
    Jefferson Cty., 
    446 F.3d 1160
    , 1163 (11th Cir. 2006)). And to repeat, in
    determining whether the plaintiff has met her burden to show pretext, we remain
    mindful that it is the plaintiff’s burden to provide evidence from which one could
    reasonably conclude that but for her alleged protected act, her employer would not
    have fired her.
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    Gogel has not shown “weaknesses, implausibilities, inconsistencies,
    incoherencies, or contradictions” in Kia’s stated reason for discharging her—her
    solicitation of another employee to sue the company—sufficient to provide a
    legitimate ground for a reasonable factfinder to find that explanation to be
    unworthy of credence. In short, she has failed to provide evidence showing that
    but for her filing of an EEOC charge, Kia would not have fired her. As noted, Kia
    did not fire Gogel upon receiving notice of her EEOC charge on November 22,
    2010. To the contrary, Kia granted her request for additional vacation time,
    awarded her a $12,000 discretionary bonus, and Jackson advised Gogel that she
    was doing a good job. It was only when Kia later learned—46 days after it had
    received her EEOC charge15—that Gogel had recruited a subordinate to sue the
    company that Kia concluded Gogel could no longer function in her highly sensitive
    position as manager of Team Relations and that she must therefore be discharged.
    15
    Gogel and our dissenting colleagues, Judges Martin and Wilson, argue that evidence of
    pretext is present because her termination in January 2011 was in close temporal proximity to the
    filing of her own November 2010 EEOC charge. While close temporal proximity between the
    protected conduct and the adverse employment action can establish pretext when coupled with
    other evidence, temporal proximity alone is insufficient. See Johnson v. Miami-Dade Cty., 
    948 F.3d 1318
    , 1328 (11th Cir. 2020) (temporal proximity of less than two months was insufficient
    by itself to establish pretext); Hurlbert v. St. Mary’s Health Care Sys., Inc., 
    439 F.3d 1286
    , 1298
    (11th Cir. 2006) (the close temporal proximity of two weeks was evidence of pretext but
    “probably insufficient to establish pretext by itself”); Wascura v. City of South Miami, 
    257 F.3d 1238
    , 1244–45 (11th Cir. 2001) (a three and one-half month period between the employee’s
    protected conduct and her termination was, standing alone, insufficient to demonstrate pretext).
    And here, an intervening event—Kia’s discovery of information indicating that Gogel had
    solicited Ledbetter to sue and had provided her with the name of an attorney to use—undermined
    the significance of any temporal proximity.
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    Gogel is necessarily arguing that if she had recruited Ledbetter to sue the company
    and referred her to an attorney, but had never filed her own EEOC charge, Kia
    would not have fired her. Yet, there is no evidence16 to reasonably support an
    inference that Kia would have fired Gogel following the filing of Gogel’s charge
    had the Ledbetter matter not later come to its attention. 17 In fact, all the record
    16
    In support of their argument that a reasonable jury could have concluded that Gogel’s
    filing of the first EEOC charge was the “but-for” cause of Kia’s decision to fire her, our
    dissenting colleagues cite to evidence they say shows that Robert Tyler was likewise retaliated
    against when he was fired after he filed his EEOC Charge. In other words, they argue that
    because Kia engaged in similar retaliation toward another employee who filed an EEOC charge,
    Gogel has bolstered her claim that she too was fired because she had filed a charge.
    At least one problem with this argument is the fact that our Court has reviewed Tyler’s
    retaliation claim and concluded that Kia did not retaliate against Tyler based on his filing of a
    charge. Specifically, Kia was granted summary judgment on Tyler’s claim of retaliatory
    termination, and we affirmed that grant on appeal. See Tyler, 702 F. App’x at 952. In affirming,
    we noted that Kia had stated that it fired Tyler because he improperly downloaded confidential
    files to his personal computer in violation of both company policy and the conflict of interest
    agreement he entered after filing his EEOC charge.
    Id. at 951.
    We concluded that Tyler had not
    “provide[d] any evidence demonstrating ‘weaknesses, implausibilities, or inconsistencies’” in
    Kia’s proffered justification sufficient to show that Kia’s non-retaliatory reasons for firing him
    were pretextual.
    Id. While Tyler,
    which involves a different plaintiff, does not represent the law
    of the case, its reasoning nonetheless applies equally to Gogel’s claim of pretext, which we
    likewise find to be unsupported by the evidence.
    Similarly, Ledbetter’s assertion that, after Gogel’s termination, she felt pressured to drop
    her own EEOC charge and to acknowledge that Gogel had played a role in her decision to file an
    EEOC charge does not suggest a weakness, implausibility, or inconsistency in Kia’s explanation
    that it fired Gogel, not because Gogel had filed an EEOC charge, but because Gogel had acted in
    contradiction of Kia’s core expectations for a person in her position. See
    id. 17
                Indeed, our dissenting colleague, Judge Martin, earlier appeared to share this view in
    her majority panel opinion (now vacated) when, in rejecting Gogel’s claim that she was
    terminated because of her gender and national origin, she stated, “Rather, the record strongly
    indicates that Kia fired Ms. Gogel for assisting Ms. Ledbetter with her charge.” 
    Gogel, 904 F.3d at 1239
    . As to the majority panel opinion’s discussion of the retaliation claim, Gogel’s filing of
    the first EEOC charge was apparently deemed so unlikely a candidate for the protected activity
    retaliated against that the majority panel opinion never even mentioned it as a possible basis for
    the retaliation claim. Instead, the majority panel opinion focused solely on whether Gogel’s
    alleged solicitation of another employee to sue constituted protected activity, concluding that
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    evidence pointed to the continuation of the employment relationship between
    Gogel and Kia after Gogel filed her charge. Conversely, had Gogel only recruited
    Ledbetter to sue the company, providing her with the name of an attorney to use in
    this endeavor—but never filed her own EEOC charge 18—nothing in the record
    supports an inference that Kia would have tolerated such conduct from its Team
    Relations manager. See discussion infra in subsection B. In short, having failed to
    demonstrate that Kia’s stated reason for firing her was a pretext to mask a
    retaliatory motive, Gogel has necessarily failed to show that a reasonable jury
    could find that but for the filing of her EEOC charge she would not have been
    fired.
    “Viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to Ms. Gogel, the record shows that Kia fired
    her for engaging in protected opposition activity, which she carried out in a reasonable manner.”
    
    Gogel, 904 F.3d at 1238
    .
    18
    Our dissenting colleague, Judge Rosenbaum, faults us for limiting ourselves to
    consideration of Gogel’s filing of the first EEOC Charge and for failing to consider whether one
    could infer that Kia fired Gogel because of her prior complaints concerning perceived
    mistreatment of herself and others. Although Gogel has certainly provided in great detail her
    version of her interactions with Kia, including internal complaints she made during her
    employment, she has focused on the filing of her first EEOC charge, which charge claimed
    discrimination based on Kia’s refusal to designate her position as an HOD, as the primary event
    triggering Kia’s decision to fire her. At any rate, consideration of any prior incidents between
    Gogel and Kia—many of them occurring long before Gogel ever filed a charge—does not
    change the above analysis. Despite Gogel’s earlier internal complaints while employed with
    Kia, Kia fired her only when it became aware of facts suggesting that she had recruited Ledbetter
    to sue the company. There is no evidence to suggest that Kia would have allowed Gogel to
    remain as Team Manager once Kia received information that Gogel had solicited a subordinate
    to sue the company and had provided that employee with the name of a lawyer to use—
    regardless of whether or not Gogel had previously complained internally. Thus, this “prior
    complaints” evidence does not satisfy Gogel’s burden to demonstrate pretext or otherwise
    provide evidence from which one could reasonably infer that but for these prior complaints, Kia
    would not have fired her.
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    B. Gogel’s Solicitation of Ledbetter Did Not Constitute Protected
    Activity
    Alternatively, Gogel argues that her termination violates Title VII and
    § 1981 because, even assuming arguendo that she recruited Ledbetter to sue the
    company, as Kia came to believe, such conduct is itself protected activity under the
    opposition clause and, therefore, it could not provide Kia with a legitimate,
    nonretaliatory reason for her termination. In response, Kia contends that by
    attempting to recruit another employee to sue Kia, Gogel’s action so conflicted
    with her responsibilities as Team Relations manager that it cannot be considered to
    constitute protected activity. Because the parties have assumed that Kia’s stated
    reason for firing Gogel cannot rebut her prima facie case of retaliation under the
    participation clause if that reason would violate the opposition clause, we assume
    that premise without deciding the question.
    1. Legal Framework
    The question then is whether, in light of her responsibilities in the Team
    Relations Department, Gogel’s recruitment of a subordinate to sue the company
    constituted conduct protected against retaliation under the opposition clause. Our
    precedent provides a ready answer: when the means by which an employee
    expresses her opposition “so interferes with the performance” of her job duties
    “that it renders [her] ineffective in the position for which [she] was employed,” this
    oppositional conduct is not protected under Title VII’s opposition clause. Rosser
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    v. Laborers’ Int’l Union of N. Am., Local No. 438, 
    616 F.2d 221
    , 223 (5th Cir.
    1980). And here, Gogel’s efforts to recruit an employee to sue the company so
    clearly conflicted with the performance of her job duties as the manager of the
    Team Relations department that it rendered her ineffective in that position and
    reasonably prompted Kia to conclude that it could no longer trust her to do the job
    for which she was being paid.
    “[I]t is well established that the protection afforded by [Title VII’s
    opposition clause] is not absolute.” Rollins v. Fla. Dep’t of Law Enf’t, 
    868 F.2d 397
    , 400–01 (11th Cir. 1989). To qualify for protection under the opposition
    clause, “the manner in which an employee expresses her opposition to an allegedly
    discriminatory employment practice must be reasonable.”
    Id. at 401.
    When
    examining the reasonableness of the manner of an employee’s conduct, we
    “balanc[e] the purpose of the statute and the need to protect individuals asserting
    their rights thereunder against an employer’s legitimate demands for loyalty,
    cooperation and a generally productive work environment.”
    Id. I
    n fact, since 
    Rosser, we have repeatedly recognized that some otherwise
    protected oppositional conduct can fall outside Title VII’s protection if the conduct
    so interferes with an employee’s performance of her job duties that it renders her
    ineffective in the position in which she is employed. For instance, in Hamm v.
    Members of the Board of Regents of the State of Florida, 
    708 F.2d 647
    , 654 (11th
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    Cir. 1983), we affirmed the dismissal of a Title VII retaliation claim for failing to
    state a prima facie case, holding that the plaintiff failed to show protected activity
    because the plaintiff’s activities in opposition to alleged discrimination conflicted
    with the plaintiff’s essential duties as a human resources advisor. Specifically,
    Hamm’s “duties included investigating instances of alleged discrimination, filing
    written reports of her findings with the appropriate supervisory personnel, and
    recommending appropriate action for their final approval or disapproval.”
    Id. The record showed,
    however, that rather than follow her employer’s established
    procedures for resolving discrimination complaints, the employee consistently
    acted as an advocate on behalf of aggrieved employees.
    Id. at 653–54.
    We
    concluded that her actions were not protected under Title VII because she
    “repeatedly chose to work outside the framework [her employer] was attempting to
    establish to deal with discrimination claims. [And] [a]n employer may remove an
    employee from a position similar to that at issue here without violating Title VII
    based on the manner in which the employee undertakes his or her duties.”
    Id. at 654.
    Similarly, in Whatley v. Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority
    (“MARTA”), 
    632 F.2d 1325
    , 1326 (5th Cir. 1980), the plaintiff, an Equal
    Employment Opportunity compliance officer for MARTA, alleged that he was
    retaliated against when he was terminated after engaging in protected conduct by
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    filing a formal discrimination complaint on behalf of another employee. On
    appeal, we affirmed the denial of his retaliation claim, concluding that the plaintiff
    was not fired because he had participated in a statutorily protected activity (filing
    the complaint).
    Id. at 1329.
    Instead, he was fired because he had violated the
    company’s normal reporting procedures and assumed a role that conflicted with his
    job responsibilities.
    Id. I
    n so holding, 
    we emphasized that “[f]ailing to follow
    prescribed administrative procedures is not a statutorily protected activity. Title
    VII cannot be held to immunize an employee from all consequences of his
    behavior merely because part of his job happens to require the handling of
    discrimination complaints.”
    Id. Additionally, in Jones
    v. Flagship International, 
    793 F.2d 714
    , 716 (5th Cir.
    1986), the plaintiff was in-house legal counsel and the Manager of Equal
    Employment Opportunity Programs for her employer, and her duties included
    investigating charges of discrimination brought against the company, conciliating
    such charges, representing the company before various agencies, and preparing an
    affirmative action plan. At some point, the plaintiff experienced sexual harassment
    in the workplace and complained to her superiors, but her grievances were ignored.
    Id. at 716–17.
    She then filed a charge with the EEOC alleging pay discrimination
    and sexual harassment.
    Id. at 717.
    Upon learning of her charge, her employer
    suspended her with pay.
    Id. Following her suspension,
    Jones’s employer received
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    information that Jones also solicited another employee to file a discrimination
    charge against the company and invited another employee to join in a lawsuit
    against the company.
    Id. Jones was later
    fired, and she brought a retaliation claim.
    Id. at 717–18.
    Discussing the impact of Jones’s solicitation of another employee to
    sue the company, the Fifth Circuit cited Rosser for the proposition that even
    sincere opposition to discriminatory practices under Title VII “may be so
    disruptive or inappropriate as to fall outside the protections of § 704(a).”
    Id. at 728.
    The court agreed that an employer’s right to run its business must be
    balanced against the rights of an employee to express her grievances and promote
    her own welfare.
    Id. However, the court
    noted that the plaintiff’s “right to express
    her grievances and promote her own welfare did not depend on others joining in
    her suit.”
    Id. Thus, applying the
    above tests to the facts before it, the Fifth Circuit
    concluded that, given Jones’s particular job responsibilities, her solicitation of
    others to sue the company was not protected conduct for purposes of a retaliation
    claim.
    Id. Jones is very
    similar to the case at hand, and we have cited the Fifth
    Circuit’s decision in Jones with approval. See 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    (noting that
    Jones is “consistent” with this Court’s precedent).
    And in Rollins, we expanded on the “rendered-ineffective-in-the-job” test set
    out in Rosser and Hamm. Rollins filed a frequent number of both informal and
    formal complaints of discrimination.
    Id. at 398.
    Notably, in doing so, she
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    compromised none of the responsibilities of her position. Specifically, she was a
    technician, not a human resources manager, and she filed a complaint only on her
    own behalf.
    Id. There was no
    solicitation or recruitment of other employees to file
    a complaint, nor would such conduct have conflicted with Rollins’s job
    responsibilities as none of her job responsibilities involved working to resolve
    discrimination complaints. Thus, her oppositional conduct did not render her
    ineffective in her position. Nevertheless, we determined that the manner in which
    Rollins leveled her grievances—filing an overwhelming number of mostly
    spurious complaints and frequently doing so in an insubordinate and antagonistic
    manner—was unreasonable.
    Id. at 399.
    Given that reasonableness of oppositional
    conduct is determined by “balancing the purpose of the statute and the need to
    protect individuals asserting their rights thereunder against an employer’s
    legitimate demands for loyalty, cooperation and a generally productive work
    environment,”
    id. at 401,
    Rollins’ conduct—which clearly undermined a
    productive work environment—was not protected.
    Id. I
    n short, Rosser 
    established the principle that an employee’s oppositional
    conduct loses its protection when the manner chosen to voice that opposition so
    interferes with the employee’s performance of her job that it renders her ineffective
    in the position for which she was employed. Rollins expanded on that principle,
    holding that even if an employee’s oppositional conduct does not interfere with the
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    employee’s performance of her own duties, it can still be deemed unreasonable—
    and thereby lose its protected status—if the opposition is expressed in a manner
    that unreasonably disrupts other employees or the workplace in general. It is the
    principle announced in Rosser that is most pertinent to our analysis in this case.
    We reject the argument of our dissenting colleague, Judge Rosenbaum, that Rollins
    is relevant to determining whether an employee’s manner of opposition so
    interferes with her job responsibilities that it is unprotected. Our decisions in
    Rosser, Hamm, and Whatley govern that question; Rollins instead concerns the
    distinct question whether conduct that does not interfere with an employee’s job
    duties is nonetheless so disruptive that it does not qualify for protection.
    The requirement that opposition to allegedly unlawful employment practices
    must be done in a reasonable manner is well-established not only in this Circuit,
    but also in sister circuits. See, e.g., Matima v. Celli, 
    228 F.3d 68
    , 79 (2d Cir. 2000)
    (“A question of retaliation is not raised by a removal for conduct inconsistent with
    [the employee’s] duties, unless its use as a mere pretext is clear.” (alteration in
    original) (quoting Pendleton v. Rumsfeld, 
    628 F.2d 102
    , 108 (D.C. Cir. 1980)));
    Robbins v. Jefferson Cty. Sch. Dist. R-1, 
    186 F.3d 1253
    , 1259 (10th Cir. 1999)
    (adopting Rollins’s reasonableness balancing test), abrogated on other grounds,
    Nat’l R.R. Passenger Corp. v. Morgan, 
    536 U.S. 101
    , 116 (2002); Laughlin v.
    Metro. Wash. Airports Auth., 
    149 F.3d 253
    , 260 (4th Cir. 1998) (affirming district
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    court’s decision that an employee did not engage in protected activity where she
    breached her employer’s trust by copying confidential documents and giving them
    to an outside party, as “Title VII was not intended to immunize insubordinate,
    disruptive, or nonproductive behavior at work” (quotation omitted)); Holden v.
    Owens-Illinois, Inc., 
    793 F.2d 745
    , 751 (6th Cir. 1986) (citing Rosser for the
    proposition that an employee’s conduct is not covered by Title VII’s opposition
    clause if the conduct “so interferes with the performance of [the employee’s] job
    that it renders him ineffective in the position for which he was employed.”); 
    Jones, 793 F.2d at 728
    (citing Rosser for the proposition that even sincere opposition to
    discriminatory practices under Title VII “may be so disruptive or inappropriate as
    to fall outside the protections of [Title VII]”). 19
    Our dissenting colleague, Judge Martin, seems to question the validity of the
    legal principles applied in Hamm and Jones because appellate review of the ruling
    for the defendant in those cases occurred after a bench trial, instead of a motion for
    summary judgment. That fact does not vitiate the legal principles applied in those
    cases. In each case, both the district court and the appellate court proceeded
    19
    The EEOC filed an amicus brief in favor of Gogel, however, its own guidance manual
    provides that “the protection of the opposition clause only applies where the manner of
    opposition is reasonable” and that “[o]pposition to perceived discrimination also does not serve
    as license for the employee to neglect job duties. If an employee’s protests render the employee
    ineffective in the job, the retaliation provisions do not immunize the employee from appropriate
    discipline or discharge.” EEOC Enforcement Guidance on Retaliation and Related Issues, 
    2016 WL 4688886
    , *8–9 (E.E.O.C. Guidance (Aug. 25, 2016)).
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    through the McDonnell Douglas framework in analyzing the retaliation claim. In
    Hamm, we affirmed the district court’s grant of judgment as a matter of law at the
    completion of the plaintiff’s case, applying the McDonnell Douglas test and
    concluding that the plaintiff had failed to make a prima facie case because the
    manner of her opposition rendered that conduct unprotected. 
    Hamm, 708 F.2d at 653
    –54. In Jones, the Fifth Circuit affirmed the district court’s ruling for the
    defendant that, while the plaintiff had made a prima facie case of retaliation (she
    was fired after filing an EEOC charge), she had nonetheless failed to prove a
    causal connection between that act and the defendant’s termination decision, given
    conduct by the plaintiff that sharply conflicted with her job responsibilities. 
    Jones, 793 F.2d at 724
    –25.
    Nevertheless, whatever fact-finding the above district courts may have
    engaged in to reach their rulings, the appellate court’s review of those decisions
    resulted in the articulation of legal principles that the appellate court then applied
    to the universe of facts before it. Likewise, in this case we have applied those
    same principles recognized in our precedent to the undisputed material facts in this
    case. In any event, Rosser did not involve a bench trial, but instead a summary
    judgment ruling that we affirmed, and in doing so we announced the seminal
    principle as to when an employee’s conduct loses its protection that has been
    recognized in our circuit for forty years, a principle that controls in this case.
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    Before leaving the above discussion of our precedent concerning the
    circumstances under which otherwise protected conduct can lose its protection, we
    address our dissenting colleague Judge Rosenbaum’s efforts to dismantle that
    precedent. Our colleague initially appears to give a grudging nod to the principle
    that an HR manager whose duty is to endeavor to resolve employee complaints
    internally violates that responsibility when she instead recruits a subordinate to sue
    the company and provides that subordinate with the name of an attorney to do so.
    But Judge Rosenbaum then crafts an exception so amorphous and unworkable as to
    gut this principle. Specifically, according to Judge Rosenbaum, if the HR manager
    is unhappy with the employer’s decision not to conduct an investigation suggested
    by the manager or if, in the manager’s view, the employer has engaged in conduct
    that the manager thinks might be discriminatory under Title VII, then the manager
    is transformed into a free agent who, no longer tethered to her previous job duties,
    may not only urge the discontented employee to sue, but also facilitate that effort
    by identifying a lawyer for the employee to use. In other words, now empowered
    to act as the ultimate arbiter of her employer’s conduct, the manager is free to
    abandon the responsibilities of her position, yet still keep her job.
    At bottom, Judge Rosenbaum argues that whenever a plaintiff HR manager
    with job responsibilities like Gogel’s abandons those responsibilities because she
    finds fault with the employer’s decisions and is then terminated, the balancing test
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    (discussed above) requires that the judicial decision-maker determine whether the
    manager should nonetheless be given a pass and allowed to remain in her job.
    Leaving aside the absence of any standard by which a court or jury would be
    guided in its decision whether to extend amnesty to an employee who has decided
    that she no longer needs to perform her job duties, this position turns on its head
    the long-standing principle that Title VII does not empower a court (or jury) to “sit
    as a super-personnel department that reexamines an entity’s business decisions.”
    Elrod v. Sears, Roebuck & Co., 
    939 F.2d 1466
    , 1470 (11th Cir. 1991) (quoting
    Mechnig v. Sears, Roebuck & Co., 
    864 F.2d 1359
    , 1365 (7th Cir. 1988)).
    As a corollary to the above argument, our dissenting colleague cites Payne v.
    McLemore’s Wholesale & Retail Stores, 
    654 F.2d 1130
    (5th Cir. Unit A 1981) in
    support of her position that only a jury can properly decide whether Gogel’s
    solicitation of a subordinate to sue Kia, in contravention of her job responsibilities,
    is protected conduct. Payne does not support this contention nor override Rosser.
    The plaintiff in Payne was a seasonal laborer who, in the offseason, engaged in
    picketing and boycotting activities against his sometime employer based on his
    belief that the employer engaged in racially discriminatory practices. When he was
    not rehired as the next season rolled around, he sued under Title VII, claiming that
    the employer’s failure to rehire him was done in retaliation for his protected
    activity of picketing. The legal question before the district court was whether the
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    plaintiff was required to prove that the employer had actually engaged in
    discriminatory practices or whether the plaintiff need only show his reasonable
    belief that the employer had done so. We affirmed the district court’s decision that
    the plaintiff must only show the latter.
    Id. at 1140.
    On appeal, however, the defendant employer argued for the first time that
    the form of plaintiff’s opposition—boycotting and picketing by a former
    employee—did not constitute the type of activity that could be considered to be
    protected.
    Id. at 1142.
    We held that the employer was obliged to make that
    argument and introduce any supporting evidence when the case was before the
    district court, not for the first time on appeal.
    Id. at 1144.
    Further, because we
    were not prepared to say, as a matter of law, that picketing and boycotting by a
    former employee was “clearly unprotected,” given that the plaintiff was not
    working for the defendant at the time of the activity and therefore had little
    opportunity for direct access to air his grievances
    , id. at 1145,
    and because
    “further factual development [was] essential for a proper resolution of this issue,”
    id. at 1146
    , 
    we declined the defendant’s request that we opine one way or the other
    as to whether the plaintiff’s conduct was protected
    , id. at 1146
    n.15. Finally,
    because the employer had failed to raise this issue before the district court, we also
    declined to remand this question to the district court, but instead simply affirmed
    the latter’s judgment for plaintiff.
    Id. at 1146.
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    In the course of reaching this decision, we made the observation on which
    our dissenting colleague relies, “[a]t least where conduct is not unprotected as a
    matter of law, the fact finder must have an opportunity to hear evidence, to balance
    the competing considerations, and to reach a conclusion as to the reasonableness of
    the conduct.”
    Id. Leaving aside the
    fact that the statement is arguably dicta, 20 it
    does not change the analysis of this case. In contrast with Gogel, there was no
    contention in Payne that, had he been rehired, the plaintiff’s picketing activity
    while not employed with the company would so interfere with the performance of
    his job duties as a seasonal laborer that it would render him ineffective in that
    position, as was the case in Rosser. Further, the Payne court clearly did not say
    that summary judgment could never be warranted on the question whether
    particular conduct was protected; in fact, it cited with approval Rosser, which
    affirmed the granting of summary judgment to the defendant employer based on
    the latter’s argument that the plaintiff’s particular oppositional conduct was not
    protected because it rendered her ineffective in her job position.
    Id. at 1142–43.
    Finally, in this case, Gogel’s solicitation of a subordinate to sue the company, and
    20
    See United States v. Kaley, 
    579 F.3d 1246
    , 1253 n.10 (11th Cir. 2009) (“As our cases
    frequently have observed, dicta is defined as those portions of an opinion that are ‘not necessary
    to deciding the case then before us.’” (quoting United States v. Eggersdorf, 
    126 F.3d 1318
    , 1322
    n.4 (11th Cir. 1997))). In Payne, as to the defendant’s request that we consider its belated
    argument, we held that because the defendant’s new argument required further factual
    development, it could therefore not be decided as a matter of law on appeal, and because the
    defendant should have earlier raised this argument before the district court, we likewise did not
    remand for the district court to oversee the necessary factual development.
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    her providing the name of a lawyer to help in that endeavor, so conflicted with her
    duties as Team Manager that this conduct rendered her ineffective in that position
    as a matter of law.
    In short, we do not have to concern ourselves further with the problems
    inherent in the approach that our dissenting colleague puts forward because we
    have precedent that controls in this case and that precludes the new test that Judge
    Rosenbaum would have us adopt. To repeat, this precedent in Rosser provides that
    an employee’s oppositional conduct loses its protection when the manner chosen to
    voice that opposition so interferes with the employee’s performance of her job that
    it renders her ineffective in the position for which she was employed. And as
    explained below, that is what happened in this case.
    2. Application of The Above Legal Standard to This Case
    Turning to the present case, there is no dispute that Gogel had every right to
    oppose actions directed toward her by Kia that she deemed to violate Title VII.
    And throughout her tenure, she exercised her right to complain, particularly about
    the subject matter of her first EEOC charge: Kia’s failure to classify Team
    Relations as its own separate department, with Gogel as its HOD. The making of
    informal complaints or the use of an internal grievance system is protected conduct
    under the opposition clause. See Furcron v. Mail Centers Plus, LLC, 
    843 F.3d 1295
    , 1311 (11th Cir. 2016) (“Title VII’s protections are not limited to individuals
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    who file formal complaints, but extend to those who voice informal complaints as
    well.” (citing 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 400
    )). Likewise, there is no dispute that Gogel’s
    filing of her own EEOC charge was also protected. Yet, Kia never disciplined
    Gogel for making these internal complaints nor did it fire Gogel upon learning that
    she had filed an EEOC charge. Instead, as noted above, after the latter event,
    Gogel was given a bonus and told that she was doing a good job.
    As for oppositional conduct by Gogel on behalf of other employees, Gogel
    likewise enjoyed the right to report to management any concerns she had about the
    way in which Kia was treating its employees. And the record indicates that she did
    so. Gogel’s internal advocacy before Kia management on behalf of other
    employees was clearly protected conduct. Yet, Gogel was never disciplined for
    advocating for other employees or relaying any complaints they may have shared.
    But when Gogel surreptitiously recruited Ledbetter to sue Kia 21—not just
    encouraging Ledbetter but giving her the name of the attorney with whom Gogel
    was also meeting—Gogel acted in direct conflict with her job responsibilities and
    was thereby rendered ineffective in the Team Relations manager position, as Kia
    could no longer trust Gogel to do the job for which she was hired. After all, it was
    21
    Gogel and Ledbetter deny that Gogel recruited Ledbetter to sue Kia. See infra at 54
    n.24. But as discussed infra at 54–56, the pertinent question for purposes of examining the
    propriety of Kia’s decision to terminate Gogel is what Kia in good faith believed to have been
    Gogel’s conduct. And Jackson’s unrebutted testimony indicates that he believed Gogel to have
    so acted.
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    the Team Relations department to whom employees would address complaints
    about their employment, including complaints about discrimination or harassment.
    Team Relations members were hired to investigate complaints, resolve conflicts,
    and be an advocate for the team members in the best interests of the company. As
    Team Relations manager, Gogel occupied a position of trust and confidence and
    was tasked with trying to maintain employee morale. Further, as the testimony
    consistently indicated, the Team Relations department, and certainly its manager,
    were expected to interact with complaining employees in an effort to internalize
    the resolution of any complaint and thereby avoid, if possible, the external
    resolution of that complaint, such as the filing of an EEOC charge and a
    subsequent lawsuit.
    Specifically, as Tyler, the HOD of Human Resources under whose umbrella
    Gogel’s Team Relations operated, acknowledged, Team Relations was charged
    with “[e]nsuring a positive work environment and ensuring that team members
    (employees) don’t have a need to seek out third parties,” to resolve their
    complaints. By third parties, Tyler meant “litigation and lawsuits,” “government
    organizations,” and “labor unions.” Tyler agreed that Kia’s expectations for its
    Team Relations manager was someone “who could interact with the employees to
    avoid the employees going to third parties.”
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    Likewise, Jackson explained that the Team Relations manager is expected to
    advise him at all times if the manager becomes aware that an employee is
    considering legal action. He explained that a manager is absolutely not supposed
    to solicit litigation against the company or recruit an employee to sue, and to do so
    would be in conflict with the responsibilities of the position. As Jackson testified,
    “I don’t want my team relations manager out soliciting and encouraging other team
    members to file lawsuits. That’s not what she’s paid to do. That’s not what she
    was hired to do.” Jackson reiterated this point: “[S]he shouldn’t be out soliciting
    and encouraging other team members to file lawsuits. She’s paid to prevent
    lawsuits. She’s paid to let me know [] if other people are interested in filing
    lawsuits. That’s what her job is supposed to be doing.” And again: “She has an
    obligation to let me know that if she knows someone is going to file a lawsuit
    against our company, she has the . . . responsibility to let me know about that.”
    And yet again: “I think I said earlier that I had a major concern with my Manager
    of Team Relations soliciting and encouraging other team members to file a lawsuit
    against our company. That role is paid to help people and prevent lawsuits from
    being filed, not to encourage and solicit lawsuits to be filed. . . . The Team
    Relations Manager’s role is to do everything possible to keep—or basically not to
    encourage other team members to file lawsuits against our company.”
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    Similarly, Williams, the assistant Team Relations manager who worked
    directly under Gogel, also agreed that in recruiting Ledbetter to sue the company,
    Gogel had acted contrary to the expectations of her job, which was to try to resolve
    an employee’s problem without the latter taking legal action, not encourage the
    employee to take that action: “I mean you don’t go to a doctor to get leukemia.
    We’re the people that’s [sic] supposed to keep lawsuits from happening.”
    Likewise, Kia’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness, Latesa Bailey, who later succeeded
    Tyler as Kia’s HOD of Human Resources, testified that a Team Relations manager
    is the person in charge of employee relations for the entire company, and that a
    Team Relations manager who solicits an employee to sue the company has acted
    “in direct contradiction to what she was actually hired for.” “[Gogel’s] primary
    job duty was to resolve employment conflicts, any type of disputes, to try to
    resolve them before they got out to an outside party, such as an attorney or the
    EEOC.” Given the responsibilities of Gogel’s position, it was a breach of those
    responsibilities for her instead to recruit a team member to sue the company. As
    Bailey noted, “I don’t know a company that actually hires someone [as a Team
    Relations manager] . . . to solicit team members to file a charge against the
    company for a lawsuit.”
    Gogel likewise agrees that Team Relations conducted investigations into
    employees’ allegations of discrimination and that it was her department’s
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    responsibility to assist Jackson in resolving potential discrimination problems. She
    acknowledges that she would have been involved in making a recommendation as
    to the disposition of an investigation, either to Jackson or the legal department or
    both. Her involvement was particularly important when the investigation
    concerned a member of management.
    All of the witnesses identified above—the Vice President for Human
    Resources, two HODs of Human Resources, and Gogel’s assistant Team Relations
    manager—testified that it was an important part of the Team Relations manager’s
    job to attempt to resolve employee complaints in a way that would avoid litigation.
    Jackson and Bailey further testified that a Team Relations manager who instead
    solicits an employee to sue the company has acted in direct contradiction to what
    she was actually hired for. Gogel provides no evidence contradicting the testimony
    of these Kia witnesses that a Team Relations manager was expected to investigate
    an employee’s complaint with the goal of resolving that complaint internally or,
    conversely, that a Team Relations manager who recruits an employee to sue the
    company has acted in conflict with a central responsibility of her position. Instead,
    her only attempted response to this undisputed evidence is itself not responsive.
    For example, Gogel proffers her own testimony that she lacked any power to
    prevent a complaining employee from filing a lawsuit against the company, “as
    [her] duties included problem solving, but not preventing lawsuits. [Kia] has a
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    Legal Department that handles legal situations at [Kia].” But of course, no one
    contends that Gogel, or anyone else for that matter, can actually prevent an
    employee from filing an EEOC charge and subsequent lawsuit if the latter chooses
    to do so. Nor does Kia disagree that once an EEOC charge is filed, the legal team
    takes the lead in responding to that charge. Yet, that Gogel lacked the power to
    prevent an employee from suing and that she did not handle the legal response
    once an EEOC charge was actually filed does not mean that she was not expected
    to try to handle matters in a way that would resolve the employee’s grievance short
    of any such litigation, as all the witnesses testified. And soliciting an employee to
    sue the company falls well short of endeavoring to resolve that employee’s
    concerns short of litigation. Further, conceding that her job was “to problem-
    solve,” Gogel offers no disagreement that encouraging Ledbetter to sue the
    company would not have helped Kia solve any potential conflicts it might have had
    with Ledbetter.
    Gogel notes that the job description for Team Relations manager does not
    include a requirement that the manager “prevent lawsuits.” She further averred in
    her post-deposition declaration that she interpreted language in the job description
    providing that the Team Manager should endeavor to “prevent unwelcomed
    activity” as describing union activity, not the “EEO or legal activity.” It is true that
    the job description, which is written at a high level of generality, does not expressly
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    state that a Team Relations manager should try to prevent lawsuits. Yet, Gogel
    acknowledges that it was her duty as Team Relations manager to help Kia resolve
    any problems it might have with an employee. Not surprisingly then, and
    regardless of what the job description may or may not have covered, the
    undisputed testimony indicates that Kia considers a Team Relations manager’s
    encouragement of a disgruntled employee to sue the company as inconsistent with
    an attempt to resolve the problem in a manner consistent with the company’s best
    interests. Nor, as this testimony indicates, does Kia consider a manager’s act of
    clandestinely providing that employee with the name of a lawyer to use to sue the
    company as conduct satisfying the manager’s responsibility to keep the appropriate
    parties informed of the status of an employee’s complaint.22 Instead, as Tyler
    testified, it was Kia’s expectation that a Team Relations manager was someone
    who would interact with the employees in a manner that would avoid the latter
    “going to third parties” and resorting to litigation. Likewise, as discussed
    previously, Jackson and Bailey made clear that in soliciting Ledbetter to sue and in
    encouraging that effort by providing Ledbetter with the name of the same attorney
    22
    As Jackson testified, Gogel was “paid to let me know [] if other people are interested
    in filing lawsuits. That’s what her job is supposed to be doing. . . .She has an obligation to let me
    know [] if she knows someone is going to file a lawsuit against our company. . . .She should let
    me know what she knows.”
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    with whom Gogel had decided to meet, Gogel’s conduct was inconsistent with her
    job responsibilities.
    Thus, the pertinent factual inquiry is whether recruiting an employee to sue
    the company would have been consistent with the responsibilities entrusted to the
    Team Relations manager by Kia. Gogel is notably silent on this point, never
    affirmatively denying or otherwise presenting evidence contesting Kia’s position
    that such conduct would fundamentally conflict with the expectations that it held
    for a manager in that position. In short, the undisputed testimony indicates that the
    Team Relations manager acts in contradiction of the responsibilities inherent in
    that position if she solicits an employee to sue the company and provides the
    employee with the name of an attorney to facilitate that endeavor.
    Instead of tackling head-on Kia’s determination that Gogel’s conduct so
    conflicted with the responsibilities of her job that it irrevocably undermined the
    trust Kia believed it must have in the manager holding this tremendously
    significant position, Gogel denies that she ever engaged in such conduct.23 Thus,
    23
    In support of this contention, Gogel avers that “I did not solicit others to further my
    own agenda . . . . I did not encourage others to file a Charge against [Kia]. I did not encourage
    others to sue [Kia].” In addition to her own denial of any effort to solicit, recruit, or encourage
    Ledbetter to sue, Gogel offered a declaration by Ledbetter, who stated: “Neither [Gogel] nor
    [Tyler] told me to file a Charge with the EEOC. I made this decision for myself as a professional
    woman. [Gogel] did not solicit me to do anything against [Kia]. [Gogel] did not encourage me
    nor solicit me to get an attorney and sue the company or file an EEOC charge . . . . I made the
    decision to file an EEOC charge with my attorney, not because [Gogel] told me to. I made the
    decision to retain an attorney as well. There was no ‘collusion.’” Ledbetter further denies that
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    Gogel essentially argues that even if her recruitment of another employee to sue
    the company would have rendered her ineffective in her position and would have
    warranted Kia’s loss of confidence in her ability to continue to perform her highly
    confidential and sensitive job duties, these reasons cannot justify her termination
    because she never in fact solicited Ledbetter to sue the company. But this
    argument misapprehends the focus of the inquiry in Title VII cases. As our
    precedent makes clear, when assessing whether an employer has properly imposed
    an adverse action on an employee based on that employee’s conduct, the question
    is not whether the employee actually engaged in the conduct, but instead whether
    the employer in good faith believed that the employee had done so. As we have
    stated before when a similar argument was made by an employee against whom an
    adverse action was taken,
    [t]he inquiry . . . centers on the employer’s beliefs, not the employee’s
    beliefs and, to be blunt about it, not on reality as it exists outside of
    the decision maker’s head. . . . The question is whether
    [the] employers were dissatisfied with [the employee] for these or
    other non-discriminatory reasons, even if mistakenly or unfairly so, or
    instead merely used those [reasons] as cover for discriminating
    against her. . . .
    In analyzing issues like this one, “we must be careful not to
    allow Title VII plaintiffs simply to litigate whether they are, in fact,
    good employees.”
    she ever told Williams that Gogel was the leader of any effort to file a charge with the EEOC or
    that she, Gogel, and Williams were planning to sue the company and had the same attorney.
    Ledbetter, however, does not address how she happened to retain the same attorney as did Gogel
    and Tyler.
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    Alvarez, 610 F.3d at 1266
    (internal citations omitted) (quoting Rojas v. Florida,
    
    285 F.3d 1339
    , 1342 (11th Cir. 2002)).
    The relevant inquiry is therefore whether the employer in good faith
    believed that the employee had engaged in the conduct that led the employer to
    discipline the employee. See 
    Elrod, 939 F.2d at 1470
    . Thus,
    [w]hen an employer is told of improper conduct at its workplace, the
    employer can lawfully ask: is the accusation true? When the resulting
    employer’s investigation . . . produces contradictory accounts of
    significant historical events, the employer can lawfully make a choice
    between the conflicting versions—that is, to accept one as true and to
    reject one as fictitious—at least, as long as the choice is an honest
    choice.
    Total Sys. 
    Servs., 221 F.3d at 1176
    . To be clear,
    [t]he role of this Court is to prevent unlawful [Title VII] practices, not
    to act as a super personnel department that second-guesses employers’
    business judgments. Our sole concern is whether unlawful
    discriminatory [or retaliatory] animus motivates a challenged
    employment decision. Whether [an employee’s conduct] was
    insubordinate is not an issue for this Court to referee.
    
    Wilson, 376 F.3d at 1092
    (internal citations and quotation marks omitted). “An
    employer ‘may fire an employee for a good reason, a bad reason, a reason based on
    erroneous facts, or for no reason at all, as long as its action is not for a
    discriminatory [or retaliatory] reason.’” Damon v. Fleming Supermarkets of Fla.,
    Inc., 
    196 F.3d 1354
    , 1363 n.3 (11th Cir. 1999) (emphasis omitted) (quoting Jones
    v. Bessemer Carraway Med. Ctr., 
    151 F.3d 1321
    , 1324 n.16 (11th Cir. 1998)); see
    also 
    Elrod, 939 F.2d at 1470
    (“Federal courts ‘do not sit as a super-personnel
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    department that reexamines an entity’s business decisions. No matter how
    medieval a firm’s practices, no matter how high-handed its decisional process, no
    matter how mistaken the firm’s managers, [we] do[] not interfere. Rather, our
    inquiry is limited to whether the employer gave an honest explanation of its
    behavior.’” (quoting 
    Mechnig, 864 F.2d at 1365
    )).
    There is no evidence in this record to rebut Jackson’s repeated and insistent
    testimony that he believed Gogel had recruited Ledbetter to sue the company. He
    saw that Ledbetter’s EEOC charge had been faxed from the same law firm that
    Gogel was using in pursuing her own recently filed EEOC charge. Given the large
    number of lawyers available, Jackson was understandably skeptical that Ledbetter
    would have randomly picked the same Atlanta law firm as did Gogel and Tyler
    without some involvement from the latter. Indeed, Jackson immediately contacted
    his Korean counterparts, including the president of Kia, to alert them to his
    suspicion that Gogel was “recruiting” other employees to sue.
    In fact, Gogel finally acknowledged during this litigation that she had
    provided Ledbetter with the name of the attorney with whom Gogel stated she
    planned to meet regarding her own action against Kia. Gogel argues that we
    cannot consider this admission in assessing the genuineness of Jackson’s belief
    that Gogel had so acted because Gogel had not revealed to Jackson, prior to his
    decision to fire her, that she had, indeed, provided Ledbetter with the name of an
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    attorney to represent her. For sure, Gogel never revealed this important fact to
    Jackson when he called her in to determine whether she had any involvement in
    Ledbetter’s decision to sue. Nor could Jackson know when he fired Gogel that she
    would later admit to this conduct. This fact, however, is not helpful to Gogel.
    What matters in this inquiry is what the employer in good faith believes the
    employee to have done, not whether the employee actually engaged in the
    particular conduct. See 
    Elrod, 939 F.2d at 1470
    . Yet, the fact that Gogel has now
    made a concession that tends to confirm the accuracy of Jackson’s beliefs is hardly
    a fact that serves in any way to undermine the genuineness of those beliefs. And
    the genuineness of those beliefs is further confirmed by additional information that
    Jackson obtained after receiving Ledbetter’s EEOC charge.
    Specifically, after Jackson had received Ledbetter’s EEOC charge, Williams
    and Grimes, assistant managers of Team Relations, met with Jackson and informed
    him of a large number of long, closed-door meetings between Gogel and Ledbetter
    in the preceding weeks—meetings that seemed out of the ordinary not only to
    Williams and Grimes, but also to Jackson.24 Even more significantly, Williams
    24
    Citing Reeves v. Sanderson Plumbing Prods., Inc., 
    530 U.S. 133
    (2000), Gogel argues
    that we should disregard any testimony from Jackson, Williams, or Grimes in considering
    whether to affirm the district court’s decision to grant summary judgment because these men
    were arguably “interested witnesses.” We rejected a virtually identical argument in Kidd v.
    Mando Am. Corp., 
    731 F.3d 1196
    , 1205 n.14 (11th Cir. 2013). Other circuits have also rejected
    any reading of Reeves as precluding summary judgment where the movant relies on testimony of
    interested witnesses. See, e.g., LaFrenier v. Kinirey, 
    550 F.3d 166
    , 168 (1st Cir. 2008); Lauren
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    reported that Ledbetter had confided in him that she, Gogel, and Tyler were
    planning to sue the company, that they were going to use the same lawyer, and that
    Gogel was the ringleader. As noted, Jackson subsequently met with Gogel who, in
    denying any collusion with Ledbetter, also denied having had any significant
    recent meetings with Ledbetter, contrary to the reports of Williams and Grimes.
    Based on all of this information, Jackson concluded that Gogel had in fact
    encouraged and recruited Ledbetter to sue Kia. 25 As a result, Jackson decided that
    he had “no alternative but to discharge” Gogel, as he had lost both confidence in
    Gogel’s loyalty and the trust that was necessary for her to function in her position
    as Team Relations manager. Gogel has offered no evidence that would call into
    question the genuineness of the beliefs that led Jackson to this conclusion.
    W. ex rel. Jean W. v. DeFlaminis, 
    480 F.3d 259
    , 271–72 (3d Cir. 2007); Stratienko v. Cordis
    Corp., 
    429 F.3d 592
    , 597–98 (6th Cir. 2005); Sandstad v. CB Richard Ellis, Inc., 
    309 F.3d 893
    ,
    898 (5th Cir. 2002); Traylor v. Brown, 
    295 F.3d 783
    , 790–91 (7th Cir. 2002).
    25
    Our dissenting colleague, Judge Rosenbaum, argues that Jackson should have done a
    more thorough investigation before reaching this conclusion. But as we have previously noted
    when dealing with a similar objection to an employer’s personnel action based on the employer’s
    good faith belief: “[I]n carrying out its business and in making business decisions (including
    personnel decisions), the employer can lawfully act on a level of certainty that might not be
    enough in a court of law. In the workaday world, not every personnel decision involving a false
    statement (or a cover-up) has to be treated as something like a trial for perjury. Therefore, an
    employer, in these situations is entitled to rely on its good faith belief about falsity, concealment,
    and so forth . . . . ‘Pretext is not demonstrated by showing simply that the employer was
    mistaken.’” Total Systems 
    Servs., 221 F.3d at 1176
    . Here, Gogel has offered no evidence from
    which one could reasonably infer that Jackson did not genuinely believe that Gogel had recruited
    Ledbetter to sue the company and had provided her with the name of a lawyer to use in that
    endeavor.
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    In summary, an employee’s oppositional conduct under Title VII is not
    protected if the means by which the employee has chosen to express her opposition
    so interferes with the performance of her job that it renders her ineffective in the
    position for which she is employed. Kia held a good faith belief that Gogel had
    abandoned her responsibility to try to resolve an employee’s dispute without
    litigation when she instead actively solicited a complaining employee to sue the
    company and provided the employee with the name of an attorney to use. Once
    aware of Gogel’s conduct, Kia determined it could no longer keep her as its
    Manager of Team Relations, the department to which unhappy employees were
    sent to air their complaints. In other words, Kia could no longer trust Gogel to do
    her job.
    Stated another way, Kia did not fire Gogel because she opposed some of its
    employment practices. Gogel had expressed her opposition to various employment
    practices repeatedly throughout her tenure through internal complaints to
    management, with no adverse action taken against her for that opposition. Rather,
    Kia fired Gogel because, by recruiting Ledbetter to sue the company, Gogel chose
    to act in a way that conflicted with the core objectives of her sensitive and highly
    important position. Her actions having rendered her entirely ineffective as
    manager of the Team Relations department, the manner of her oppositional
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    conduct with respect to Ledbetter was necessarily unreasonable, and the conduct
    was not protected under Title VII.
    III.   CONCLUSION
    For all the above reasons, Gogel’s retaliation claim fails, and we affirm the
    district court’s grant of summary judgment to Kia as to all claims.
    AFFIRMED.
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    WILLIAM PRYOR, Chief Judge, concurring:
    I join the majority opinion in full. I write separately to respond to the
    suggestion of my dissenting colleagues that a difference of opinion among judges
    about whether to affirm a summary judgment reveals the presence of a jury
    question that precludes summary judgment. Because 13 appellate judges are
    “divided in their views” on whether the district court correctly granted summary
    judgment in this employment-discrimination suit, Judge Martin’s dissent suggests
    that the absence of a jury question is “improbable.” Martin Dissenting Op. at 71.
    Of course, it should go without saying that counting judicial noses cannot tell us
    whether a genuine dispute of material fact exists. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(a). But if
    nose counting is relevant, the dissenters fail to mention that nine of the 14 judges
    to consider the issue—including the district judge who granted summary
    judgment—concluded there was no jury question. Only five think otherwise. So
    instead of making the absence of a jury question “improbable,” Martin Dissenting
    Op. at 71 (emphasis added), judicial nose counting suggests the opposite. See
    Probable, Webster’s New International Dictionary (2d ed. 1959) (“Having more
    evidence for than against.”). And more importantly, so does legal analysis. As the
    majority opinion explains, faithful application of our precedent leaves no doubt
    that the district court correctly granted summary judgment for the employer.
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    JORDAN, Circuit Judge, concurring in the judgment:
    I agree with much of what Judges Martin and Rosenbaum have written in their
    dissents. The majority, for example, does not take all of the facts in the light most
    favorable to Ms. Gogel, fails to explain where in the McDonnell Douglas framework
    it is conducting its protected conduct analysis, and relies too heavily on cases that
    arose in procedurally different postures. Despite these concerns with aspects of the
    majority opinion, I concur in the judgment.
    Ms. Gogel, who was the manager of team relations at Kia, has always denied
    encouraging or soliciting other employees to sue the company. See, e.g., D.E. 101-
    1 at 14–15 (Ms. Gogel’s declaration). In her deposition, Ms. Gogel testified that
    when Mr. Jackson accused her of “colluding” with Ms. Ledbetter against Kia, she
    denied the accusation and provided proof that her meetings with Ms. Ledbetter were
    for legitimate work-related matters. See D.E. 117 at 66. For her part, Ms. Ledbetter
    similarly denied that Ms. Gogel encouraged her to file an EEOC claim against Kia.
    See D.E. 101-2 at 3–4 (Ms. Ledbetter’s declaration).
    Because we are at the summary judgment stage, and must consider the
    evidence in the light most favorable to Ms. Gogel, we have to assume that she did
    not encourage or solicit others to take legal action against Kia. As a result, there is
    no need to consider whether, as an abstract matter, any actual solicitation by Ms.
    Gogel would constitute protected conduct under Title VII.
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    Taking her version of events as true, Ms. Gogel established a prima facie case
    on her opposition and retaliation claims. But Kia presented a non-discriminatory
    reason for its termination decision—that it believed that Ms. Gogel recruited,
    encouraged, or solicited Ms. Ledbetter (and maybe Mr. Tyler) to sue the company.
    On this record, I do not believe Ms. Gogel created a jury issue as to pretext under
    Reeves v. Sanderson Plumbing Products, Inc., 
    530 U.S. 133
    , 143–46 (2000).
    Kia had evidence that Ms. Gogel, Ms. Ledbetter, and Mr. Tyler were being
    represented by the same law firm. It also had the statements of another managerial
    employee about what Ms. Gogel was supposedly doing. Mr. Williams, an assistant
    manager working under Ms. Gogel, informed Kia that Ms. Ledbetter had told him
    (a) that she, Mr. Tyler, and Ms. Gogel were planning to sue the company using the
    same law firm; (b) that the three of them were “talking together and working
    together;” and (c) that Ms. Gogel was the ringleader. See D.E. 123 at 52, 79.
    Ms. Gogel denied having significant interactions with Ms. Ledbetter when
    questioned, but given the circumstances Kia was not required to accept her denials.
    We have long said that “[t]he inquiry into pretext centers upon the employer’s
    beliefs, and not the employee’s own perceptions of [her] performance.” Holifield v.
    Reno, 
    115 F.3d 1555
    , 1565 (11th Cir. 1997). Indeed, we have held that where an
    employer relies on a report of an employee’s alleged wrongdoing, the question is not
    whether the report is accurate, but rather whether the employer “reasonably
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    believed” that it was. See Hawkins v. Ceco Corp., 
    883 F.2d 977
    , 980 n.2 (11th Cir.
    1989). Based on the information it had, Kia reasonably believed that Ms. Gogel had
    solicited other employees to sue the company, and that this conduct by a managerial
    employee was an unreasonable way of demonstrating her opposition. See generally
    Rollins v. State of Fla. Dept. of Law Enforcement, 
    868 F.2d 397
    , 401 (11th Cir. 1989)
    (“some otherwise protected conduct may be so disruptive or inappropriate as to fall
    outside Title VII’s protection”).
    With respect to retaliation, sometimes temporal proximity between the
    protected activity and adverse action is enough to take a case to the jury. But even
    in cases where the plaintiff has established temporal proximity, the employer can
    rebut inferences of improper motive by articulating non-discriminatory reasons for
    the adverse action. Given cases like Holifield and Hawkins, I think Kia has done
    that here. See Walden v. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 
    669 F.3d 1277
    , 1290 (11th Cir. 2012) (holding, in a Title VII case, that a temporal proximity
    of three weeks was not enough to overcome evidence showing that the employee
    was removed for a legitimate reason). Cf. Wascura v. City of S. Miami, 
    257 F.3d 1238
    , 1247 (11th Cir. 2001) (holding, in an ADA case, that where ample legitimate
    reasons supported a termination decision, temporal proximity alone was insufficient
    to meet the plaintiff’s burden of showing that the employer’s articulated reasons for
    termination was pretextual).
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    I recognize that an employee can sometimes create an issue of fact as to
    pretext by showing that the employer’s purported non-discriminatory reason is
    simply untrue. See 
    Reeves, 530 U.S. at 143
    –46. In my view, however, Kia
    reasonably believed that Ms. Gogel had engaged in soliciting lawsuits by other
    employees based on Mr. Williams’ statements about what Ms. Ledbetter had said
    and the evidence that Ms. Gogel, Ms. Ledbetter, and Mr. Tyler were being
    represented by the same law firm. Accepting as true her denials of improper
    conduct, Ms. Gogel has not presented sufficient evidence to permit a jury to find that
    Kia’s proffered reason for her termination is “unworthy of credence.”
    Id. at 143
    (internal citation and quotation marks omitted).
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    WILSON, Circuit Judge, concurring in part and dissenting in part:
    Had Andrea Gogel not filed her own discrimination claim, I would join the
    majority’s opinion in full. Indeed, I concur with the majority’s view that Title VII
    does not protect an employee’s opposition conduct if the conduct so interferes with
    the performance of her job duties that it renders her ineffective for the position for
    which she was employed. Kia says it fired Gogel because she encouraged other
    employees, including Diana Ledbetter, to file a charge of discrimination against the
    company, which was inconsistent with her responsibility as a Human Resource
    employee to protect the company from liability. Title VII’s opposition clause does
    not protect such conduct. And if that were her only claim, Gogel would rightfully
    lose at summary judgment.
    But that is not her only claim; she also brings a claim under Title VII’s
    participation clause. And there is more than enough circumstantial evidence in this
    record that a jury could reasonably rely upon to conclude that Gogel was fired in
    retaliation for filing her own charge of discrimination, which is protected activity
    under Title VII’s participation clause, separate and apart from her conduct under
    the opposition clause. Summary judgment on that claim should have been denied.
    As Gogel stated in her Amended Complaint, “[Kia’s] retaliation against
    [her] was on account of her participation in the [Equal Employment Opportunity
    Commission (EEOC)] charge filing process and because of her opposition to
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    discrimination . . . .” She further alleged that, “[b]ut for her act of filing an EEOC
    charge, she would not have been terminated.”
    As we have stated, Title VII prohibits an employer from retaliating against
    an employee “because the employee has opposed any unlawful employment
    practice” (the opposition clause), or “because of participation in a Title VII
    investigation or hearing” (the participation clause).” Furcron v. Mail Ctrs. Plus,
    LLC, 
    843 F.3d 1295
    , 1310 (11th Cir. 2016) (alterations accepted); accord 42
    U.S.C. § 2000e-3(a). Indeed, § 2000e-3(a) explicitly protects someone, such as
    Gogel, who “has made a charge.” Consequently, when Gogel filed her charge of
    discrimination with the EEOC on November 10, 2010, she engaged in protected
    conduct under the participation clause, which provides near limitless protection
    against retaliatory acts. See Clover v. Total Sys. Servs., Inc., 
    176 F.3d 1346
    , 1353
    (11th Cir. 1999) (holding that § 2000e-3(a)’s “participated in any manner” clause
    includes and protects an employee’s participation in an employer’s post-charge
    internal investigation, a form of participation more indirect than Gogel’s).
    This is the relevant timeline for Gogel’s participation-clause claim: Gogel
    filed her charge of discrimination with the EEOC alleging sex- and national-origin
    discrimination on November 10, 2010. Kia received notice of it on November 22,
    2010. On December 3, 2010, Gogel was placed on administrative leave pending
    her signature on an “acknowledgement” document created by Kia, which she
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    signed on December 6, 2010. Curiously, Kia gave her a $12,000 bonus check on
    December 22, 2010, and, according to Gogel, told her “she was doing a good job,”
    which a factfinder could interpret various ways. But then she was admonished
    about issues related to Diana Ledbetter (which the majority details), and she
    received her termination letter on January 21, 2011. On February 8, 2011, she
    filed the second charge with the EEOC based on retaliation.
    Absent direct evidence of discrimination, we analyze claims for
    discrimination under the framework set forth in McDonnell Douglas Corp. v.
    Green, 
    411 U.S. 792
    (1973) and subsequently modified in Texas Department of
    Community Affairs v. Burdine, 
    450 U.S. 248
    (1981). See also Standard v. A.B.E.L.
    Servs., Inc., 
    161 F.3d 1318
    , 1331–32 (11th Cir. 1998). “Under this framework, a
    plaintiff alleging retaliation must first establish a prima facie case by showing that:
    (1) [s]he engaged in a statutorily protected activity; (2) [s]he suffered an adverse
    employment action; and (3) [s]he established a causal link between the protected
    activity and the adverse action.” Bryant v. Jones, 
    575 F.3d 1281
    , 1307–08 (11th
    Cir. 2009). “Once a plaintiff establishes a prima facie case of retaliation, the
    burden of production shifts to the defendant to rebut the presumption by
    articulating a legitimate, non-discriminatory reason for the adverse employment
    action.”
    Id. at 1308.
    “After the defendant makes this showing, the plaintiff has a
    full and fair opportunity to demonstrate that the defendant’s proffered reason was
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    merely a pretext to mask discriminatory actions.”
    Id. As we have
    held,
    “[d]emonstrating a prima facie case is not onerous; it requires only that the plaintiff
    establish facts adequate to permit an inference of discrimination [or retaliation].”
    Holifield v. Reno, 
    115 F.3d 1555
    , 1562 (11th Cir. 1997) (per curiam); see also
    
    Burdine, 450 U.S. at 253
    –54.
    Kia concedes that Gogel can satisfy the elements of a prima facie case of
    retaliation for her termination. In its reply in support of its motion for summary
    judgment, Kia stated that it “does not contest that [Gogel’s] filing of her personal
    EEOC charge on November 3, 2010 was protected activity, and for the purpose of
    summary judgment, assumes that [she] has made out the minimal requirements of a
    prima face case.”
    In any event, a prima facie case is established here: (1) Gogel filed her
    charge; (2) she was fired; and (3) these events were separated by two months. See
    
    Bryant, 575 F.3d at 1307
    –08. “The burden of causation can be met by showing
    close temporal proximity between the statutorily protected activity and the adverse
    employment action.” Thomas v. Cooper Lighting, Inc., 
    506 F.3d 1361
    , 1364 (11th
    Cir. 2007) (per curiam). We construe the causal-link element broadly; “a plaintiff
    merely has to prove that the protected activity and the negative employment action
    are not completely unrelated.” Olmsted v. Taco Bell Corp., 
    141 F.3d 1457
    , 1460
    (11th Cir. 1998). In Olmstead, we determined that the plaintiff’s termination was
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    casually related to his complaints of racial discrimination and was appropriately
    submitted to the jury, even though the period between his complaint and
    termination was about five- to six-months apart.
    Id. at 1459–61.
    In Gogel’s case,
    the filing of the charge and the date of termination were only two months apart.
    The burden then shifts to Kia to articulate a legitimate reason for Gogel’s
    termination. See 
    Bryant, 575 F.3d at 1308
    . Kia says Gogel was terminated
    because the company lost confidence in her ability to perform her job duties after
    an investigation showed that she had solicited Ledbetter to file a charge against
    Kia, which was in violation of the agreement they made her sign on December 6,
    2010. That is a legitimate reason. Kia has thus discharged its burden of
    production, and the burden shifts back to Gogel to show that this assertion is
    merely a pretext for discrimination and retaliation. See
    id. To survive summary
    judgment Gogel must point to sufficient evidence to
    create a genuine issue of material fact regarding whether the reason Kia gives for
    her termination is merely a pretext for retaliation and discrimination. See
    id. Her evidence must
    reveal “such weaknesses, implausibilities, inconsistencies,
    incoherencies, or contradictions in [Kia’s] proffered legitimate reasons for its
    action that a reasonable factfinder could find them unworthy of credence.” Combs
    v. Plantation Patterns, 
    106 F.3d 1519
    , 1538 (11th Cir. 1997). The reason for this
    framework is obvious—what sophisticated employer, after 54 years of Title VII
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    jurisprudence, would state in a termination letter that the employee is fired for
    bringing a discrimination complaint against the company? So, Gogel can create an
    issue of fact at the pretext stage by (1) presenting evidence that Kia’s proffered
    reason is not worthy of belief; or (2) presenting evidence that retaliation was, in
    fact, Kia’s real reason. See Reeves v. Sanderson Plumbing Prods., Inc., 
    530 U.S. 133
    , 147 (2000). Evidence establishing the prima facie case and any inferences
    drawn therefrom may also be considered when determining whether pretext has
    been shown.
    Id. at 143
    ; see St. Mary’s Honor Ctr. v. Hicks, 
    509 U.S. 502
    , 511
    (1993).
    Gogel’s evidence in support of pretext is more than sufficient to defeat
    summary judgment. A Title VII plaintiff can meet the pretext burden by showing
    temporal proximity between her protected conduct and the adverse employment
    action. Brungart v. BellSouth Telecomms., Inc., 
    231 F.3d 791
    , 799 (11th Cir.
    2000). Only weeks after Gogel filed her charge with the EEOC, she was
    threatened with the loss of her job and suspended until she signed a document
    promising to forego her rights to support her charge. Less than two weeks later,
    she was fired. In Thomas, we concluded that a three- to four-month period
    between when an employee filed a sexual-harassment complaint and when she was
    fired was not enough, on its own, to establish a causal 
    connection. 506 F.3d at 1364
    . Here, the temporal proximity is much closer, as Gogel was terminated just
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    two months after the date Kia received notice of her charge. That is surely close
    enough that a factfinder could infer retaliation.
    And unlike the plaintiff in Thomas, Gogel points to additional evidence
    tending to show causation. Before the district court, Gogel argued that certain “me
    too” evidence demonstrated that Kia retaliated against other employees who made
    internal complaints and filed EEOC charges. Gogel pointed to evidence regarding
    two incidents related to her case. The first was that Robert Tyler, another Human
    Resources employee who lodged an internal discrimination complaint and filed an
    EEOC charge, testified that he was terminated on January 6, 2011, shortly before
    Gogel was terminated. And the second was that Ledbetter attested that Kia
    coerced her to drop her EEOC charge. We have said before that “me too” evidence
    can be used “to prove the intent of [an employer] to discriminate and retaliate.”
    Goldsmith v. Bagby Elevator Co., 
    513 F.3d 1261
    , 1286 (11th Cir. 2008).
    Moreover, Gogel testified at her deposition that she did not encourage,
    solicit, or coerce Ledbetter to file a charge of discrimination. And Ledbetter
    attested that she decided on her own to file her EEOC charge, and that Gogel “did
    not encourage [her] nor solicit [her] to get an attorney and sue the company or file
    an EEOC Charge.” Ledbetter also attested that there was no collusion. More
    specifically, she declared that she “never told Arthur Williams that [Gogel] was the
    ‘leader’ of [her] and [Tyler] in filing a Charge with the EEOC” or that “all three of
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    [them] were going to sue [Kia] and had the same attorney.” While this testimony
    matters little in the opposition-clause context, it matters in the participation-clause
    context. If true, it could support that Kia’s belief that such conduct occurred was
    unreasonable. In any event, Kia is entitled to impeach Gogel’s credibility about
    these crucial facts on cross-examination at a trial. Credibility evaluations are
    within the province of the jury, not this court.
    Viewing the evidence in this record in the light most favorable to Gogel,
    which we are obligated to do, there is a genuine issue of fact about whether Kia
    terminated Gogel because she filed a charge of discrimination against the
    company. Unfortunately, the majority does not view the evidence in the light most
    favorable to Gogel. Instead, it adopts the role of factfinder, ignores Gogel’s
    evidence, and tips the scales in Kia’s favor.
    Simply put, a reasonable jury could conclude that Kia’s reason for
    terminating Gogel—that she counseled Diana Ledbetter to file an EEOC charge—
    was pretextual. Although her conduct may not be protected under Title VII’s
    opposition clause, the charge of discrimination that she filed on her own behalf
    constitutes protected conduct under Title VII’s participation clause. The case
    should have gone to the jury on that basis.
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    MARTIN, Circuit Judge, joined by ROSENBAUM and JILL PRYOR,
    Circuit Judges, dissenting:
    Andrea Gogel was fired after she challenged gender discrimination at Kia
    Motors Manufacturing, Georgia (“Kia”). Instead of allowing a jury to decide the
    facts in dispute about Kia’s true motivations for firing Ms. Gogel, this Court has
    now dedicated nearly four years and the extensive attention of 13 judges, divided
    in their views, to reach the improbable conclusion that there is no such dispute.
    The result is a majority opinion that incorrectly applies the law governing
    opposition conduct protected by Title VII; glosses over disputes of fact about Ms.
    Gogel’s core job responsibilities; and fails to consider evidence suggesting that the
    reasons Kia gave for Ms. Gogel’s dismissal were a pretext for unlawful retaliation.
    The six separate opinions that make up this en banc ruling on Ms. Gogel’s case,
    written by as many judges, paint a rich picture of the many triable issues of fact
    about whether Kia fired her because she engaged in activities protected by Title
    VII. I would reverse the grant of summary judgment to Kia on Ms. Gogel’s claim
    for unlawful retaliation. I dissent from the majority’s judgment in favor of Kia
    here.
    I.
    I begin by setting forth the standard for applying the burden-shifting
    framework described in McDonnell Douglas Corp. v. Green, 
    411 U.S. 792
    , 93 S.
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    Ct. 1817 (1973). McDonnell Douglas imposes a three-step framework for
    evaluating workplace discrimination claims based on circumstantial evidence.
    First, the employee must show a prima facie case of discrimination. Then, the
    employer must respond by articulating a legitimate, nondiscriminatory reason for
    its adverse employment action. Finally, the employee must show that the reason
    given by the employer was “mere pretext.” Quigg v. Thomas Cnty. Sch. Dist., 
    814 F.3d 1227
    , 1237 (11th Cir. 2016). This Court has relied on this familiar and well-
    worn analytic tool for well over four decades. Its purpose is to “progressively . . .
    sharpen the inquiry into the elusive factual question of intentional discrimination”
    and thereby “help[] . . . determine whether the litigants have created an issue of
    fact to be decided by the jury.” Texas Dep’t of Cmty. Affairs v. Burdine, 
    450 U.S. 248
    , 255 n.8, 
    101 S. Ct. 1089
    , 1094 n.8 (1981).
    The central question of Ms. Gogel’s case is the nature of her opposition
    conduct and whether it was protected by Title VII. In most circumstances, firing
    an employee for assisting a coworker with filing an Equal Employment
    Opportunity Commission (“EEOC”) complaint—the primary basis of Ms. Gogel’s
    dismissal—amounts to retaliation for protected opposition conduct. See Hobgood
    v. Ill. Gaming Bd., 
    731 F.3d 635
    , 642–43 (7th Cir. 2013); see also Rosser v.
    Laborers’ Int’l Union of N. Am., Local No. 438, 
    616 F.2d 221
    , 223 (5th Cir.
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    1980). 1 But of course the protections of Title VII’s opposition clause are not
    absolute. To qualify for protection, “the manner in which an employee expresses
    her opposition to an allegedly discriminatory employment practice must be
    reasonable.” Rollins v. Fla. Dep’t of Law Enf’t, 
    868 F.2d 397
    , 401 (11th Cir.
    1989) (per curiam). Our precedent has recognized two principal ways in which an
    employee’s opposition conduct may be unreasonable and thus fall outside of the
    protection of the statute: (1) if that conduct is highly disruptive, see
    id. at 400-01,
    or (2) if that conduct “so interferes with the performance of [the employee’s] job
    that it renders [her] ineffective in the position for which [s]he was employed,”
    
    Rosser, 616 F.2d at 223
    . Whether opposition activity was so unreasonable as to
    fall outside the protection of the statute is a “case by case” determination made by
    “balancing the purpose of the statute and the need to protect individuals asserting
    their rights thereunder against an employer’s legitimate demands for loyalty,
    cooperation and a generally productive work environment.” 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    .
    Our precedent is clear that the question of whether opposition conduct falls
    under the protections of Title VII should, at the summary judgment stage, be
    evaluated within the three-step McDonnell Douglas burden-shifting framework,
    1
    In Bonner v. City of Prichard, 
    661 F.2d 1206
    (11th Cir. 1981) (en banc), this Court
    adopted as binding precedent all decisions of the former Fifth Circuit handed down prior to
    October 1, 1981.
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    rather than under the “clearly erroneous” standard applied following an
    employment discrimination trial. Compare Payne v. McLemore’s Wholesale &
    Retail Stores, 
    654 F.2d 1130
    , 1144 (5th Cir. Unit A Sept. 1981) (applying
    McDonnell Douglas at summary judgment) with Jones v. Flagship Int’l, 
    793 F.2d 714
    (5th Cir. 1986) (explaining that district court findings would not be reversed
    unless they were clearly erroneous).
    A. The majority improperly relies on precedent governing appellate
    review after trial.
    The three McDonnell Douglas steps are designed to flush out proof of an
    employer’s “single, true reason for an adverse action.” 
    Quigg, 814 F.3d at 1237
    (quotation marks omitted). However, the majority opinion misapplies the
    McDonnell Douglas burden shifting process because it relies on our Circuit
    precedent governing the review of trials conducted in employment cases. We
    should instead abide by the precedent of our Circuit that governs how employment
    cases are decided at the summary judgment stage.
    In today’s ruling against Ms. Gogel, the majority analogizes her case to
    cases in which the suing employee received a trial: Jones v. Flagship International,
    
    793 F.2d 714
    , and Hamm v. Members of the Board of Regents, 
    708 F.2d 647
    (11th
    Cir. 1983). See Maj. Op. at 30–33. Of course, a different standard of review
    applies to appeals from decisions made after trial. And Ms. Gogel never got a trial.
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    The majority says that Jones is similar to Ms. Gogel’s case and recites the
    Fifth Circuit’s conclusion that “given Jones’s particular job responsibilities, her
    solicitation of others to sue the company was not protected conduct for purposes of
    a retaliation claim.” Maj. Op. at 33. However, the majority opinion relies on
    Jones even though the Fifth Circuit arrived at this conclusion based on the record
    from a three-day trial, on an appeal of the District Court’s entry of a judgment after
    that trial. 
    Jones, 793 F.2d at 718
    . Beyond that, in Jones, the Fifth Circuit was
    reviewing a District Court finding (again, after trial) that there was “not the
    slightest hint that race was even a factor in any of Flagship’s employment
    decisions regarding Jones.”
    Id. And the Fifth
    Circuit plainly stated that it would
    not reverse the District Court’s fact finding on this point unless it was “clearly
    erroneous.”
    Id. Nothing in the
    majority’s opinion here, or anything else I am
    aware of, suggests that “clearly erroneous” is the proper standard for reviewing the
    District Court’s grant of summary judgment to Kia here. Rather, we review the
    grant of summary judgment de novo. See Raney v. Vinson Guard Serv., Inc., 
    120 F.3d 1192
    , 1196 (11th Cir. 1997). Ms. Gogel never got a trial, and no court or jury
    has ever decided the facts of her dispute with Kia. The majority was mistaken
    when it relied on Jones’s “clearly erroneous” review of a District Court’s fact
    finding in deciding Ms. Gogel’s case.
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    The majority makes the same mistake when it points to Hamm. In doing so
    it relies on this court’s affirmance of a fact-based ruling, made after a trial, to
    support its conclusion that Ms. Gogel is not entitled to a trial here. Phyllis Hamm,
    like Benita Jones in her Fifth Circuit case, appealed (among other things) the
    District Court’s dismissal of her claims against her employer after the close of her
    case at trial and pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 41(b). 
    Hamm, 708 F.2d at 649
    . The Hamm panel reviewed the District Court’s findings of fact in
    support of this dismissal subject to “the clearly erroneous standard of review.”
    Id. at 650.
    Here again, the majority opinion relies on a decision applying a standard of
    review that is not the proper one for evaluating Ms. Gogel’s case.
    B. When the majority does rely on this court’s precedent governing the
    application of the McDonnell Douglas framework at the summary
    judgment stage, it does not faithfully apply that precedent.
    And when the majority did look to our Circuit precedent governing summary
    judgment rulings in employment cases, it mistakenly applies that precedent as well.
    When making her prima facie case at the first step in the McDonnell Douglas
    framework, the employee is not charged with showing that her opposition conduct
    was reasonable. See Shannon v. Bellsouth Telecomm., Inc., 
    292 F.3d 712
    , 716
    (11th Cir. 2002) (holding that, in order to show a causal connection between
    protected conduct and retaliation, a plaintiff need only show “that the decision-
    makers were aware of the protected conduct, and that the protected activity and the
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    adverse actions were not wholly unrelated.”). Once the employee successfully
    makes her prima facie showing, it falls to the employer to explain its actions. See
    
    Raney, 120 F.3d at 1196
    . The employer can meet its burden of showing a
    legitimate, nondiscriminatory reason for the adverse employment action by
    producing evidence that the employee’s conduct fell outside the protection of Title
    VII. See 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    . Then, the plaintiff may, in turn, rebut this
    evidence by showing that the employer’s reason was merely a pretext for unlawful
    retaliation. See Jefferies v. Harris Cnty. Cmty. Action Ass’n, 
    615 F.2d 1025
    , 1036
    (5th Cir. 1980).
    When discussing Ms. Gogel’s retaliation claim based on her assistance to
    Ms. Ledbetter, the majority does not clearly or consistently apply the McDonnell
    Douglas framework. Instead, the majority opinion winds its way through the
    framework without referencing which step of the framework it is analyzing. But a
    careful application of the framework is essential to determining whether there is a
    dispute of fact at the summary judgment stage. Because the majority opinion lacks
    clarity in its application of the framework, I fear it will result in mistakes in future
    employment discrimination decisions.
    As one example, the majority simply accepts Kia’s invocation of the
    importance of “loyalty” as the last word in finding her conduct unreasonable as a
    matter of law. Maj. Op. at 55–56. In doing so, it overlooks the fact that Ms.
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    Gogel’s conduct, the nature of her job, and Kia’s motivations for terminating her
    were all in dispute. These are precisely the kinds of factual questions that the
    McDonnell Douglas framework was designed to resolve, because they go directly
    to whether Kia’s reasons for terminating Ms. Gogel were pretextual. The Supreme
    Court has explained that McDonnel Douglas serves “simultaneously to meet the
    plaintiff’s prima facie case by presenting a legitimate reason for the action and to
    frame the factual issue with sufficient clarity so that the plaintiff will have a full
    and fair opportunity to demonstrate pretext.” 
    Burdine, 450 U.S. at 255
    –56, 101 S.
    Ct. at 1095. The majority opinion ignores these factual disputes. As a result, Ms.
    Gogel never got her “full and fair opportunity to demonstrate pretext.”
    Id. I
    I.
    
          In this section, I will properly apply the McDonnell Douglas framework,
    showing how it compels the holding that Ms. Gogel came forward with sufficient
    evidence to create a triable issue of fact about Kia’s motivations for firing her.
    This record demonstrates that Ms. Gogel successfully made a prima facie showing
    of unlawful retaliation that Kia rebutted by coming forward with a permissible,
    non-retaliatory reason for her dismissal. My view of the record also shows that at
    the third stage of the McDonnell Douglas analysis, Ms. Gogel produced sufficient
    evidence that Kia’s reason for her dismissal was pretextual, such that it is error for
    the majority to grant summary judgment to Kia here.
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    A. Ms. Gogel made a prima facie showing of retaliation, which Kia
    successfully rebutted.
    Ms. Gogel pointed to sufficient record evidence to support a prima facie case
    of retaliation against her. We know that the burden of making a prima facie case
    “is not onerous.” 
    Burdine, 450 U.S. at 253
    , 101 S. Ct. at 1094. Rather, at the
    prima facie stage a plaintiff need only “offer evidence that creates a valid inference
    that her employer’s conduct was in fact illegal[].” Lewis v. City of Union City,
    
    918 F.3d 1213
    , 1222 n.8 (11th Cir. 2019) (en banc).
    No one disputes that one reason Kia gave for firing Ms. Gogel was that she
    assisted Ms. Ledbetter in filing an EEOC complaint.2 Kia stated as much in its
    termination letter to Ms. Gogel, which said she was being fired in part because she
    “encouraged or even solicited the filing of [an EEOC charge].” And Title VII
    prohibits subjecting an employee to an adverse employment action “because [s]he
    has opposed any practice made an unlawful employment practice by this
    subchapter, or because [s]he has made a charge, testified, assisted, or participated
    in any manner in an investigation, proceeding, or hearing under this subchapter.”
    2
    While Ms. Gogel disputes that she actually encouraged Ms. Ledbetter to seek outside
    counsel or file a discrimination complaint, the issue is not whether she in fact engaged in this
    conduct but whether Kia “in good faith believed” in the factual basis of its adverse employment
    action. Elrod v. Sears, Roebuck & Co., 
    939 F.2d 1466
    , 1470 (11th Cir. 1991) (quotation marks
    omitted); see also Heffernan v. City of Paterson, N.J., 578 U.S. ___, 
    136 S. Ct. 1412
    , 1418
    (2016) (holding that an employee could challenge an employer’s retaliation for protected First
    Amendment conduct even if that retaliation was based on the employer’s factual mistake about
    the employee’s behavior).
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    42 U.S.C. § 2000e-3(a). Assisting fellow employees in filing EEOC charges is
    squarely protected activity. See EEOC v. Total Sys. Servs., 
    221 F.3d 1171
    , 1174
    (11th Cir. 2000). 3 While Kia argues its true concern was that the assistance Ms.
    Gogel provided Ms. Ledbetter made Ms. Gogel ineffective in her job, that is a
    question for the second stage of the McDonnell Douglas framework. At the prima
    facie stage, Ms. Gogel’s termination letter is enough to show a causal connection
    between protected conduct (assisting Ms. Ledbetter) and adverse employment
    consequences (Ms. Gogel’s discharge). See 
    Shannon, 292 F.3d at 716
    .
    Kia, in turn, met its burden of rebutting Ms. Gogel’s prima facie case by
    producing evidence that it suspended and fired her for a legitimate,
    nondiscriminatory reason. See Alvarez v. Royal Atl. Developers, Inc., 
    610 F.3d 1253
    , 1265 (11th Cir. 2010). The employer’s burden, at this stage, is only “one
    of production—not persuasion” and it “need not persuade the court that it
    was actually motivated by the proffered reason.” Kidd v. Mando Am. Corp., 
    731 F.3d 1196
    , 1205 (11th Cir. 2013) (alteration adopted) (quotation marks omitted).
    3
    The majority acknowledges that a firing on these grounds would normally give rise to a
    prima facie case of unlawful retaliation. Indeed, Kia conceded at oral argument that Title VII
    generally prohibits firing an employee, other than a human resources employee, who engaged in
    this conduct. Oral Argument at 32:57–33:38. But the majority distinguishes Ms. Gogel’s case
    based on Kia’s asserted concern that her conduct rendered her ineffective in her role as Team
    Relations manager. This fact would be appropriate to rely upon if it had ever been found by the
    trier of fact, like in Hamm. Here, though, there remain significant factual disputes over both the
    propriety of Ms. Gogel’s helping her co-worker with her EEOC charge, as well as Gogel’s
    effectiveness as a manager.
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    And the majority is correct in saying that, in some instances, an employee’s
    opposition conduct may “‘so interfere[] with the performance’ of her job duties
    ‘that it renders her ineffective in the position for which she was employed’” such
    that it is therefore unreasonable and not protected by Title VII. Maj. Op. at 29
    (alterations adopted) (quoting 
    Rosser, 616 F.2d at 223
    ).
    Here, Kia recognizes that the reason it fired Ms. Gogel was retaliation for
    protected conduct, but it says that because the conduct conflicted with Ms. Gogel’s
    core job responsibilities it was therefore unreasonable. The record before us
    supports a holding that Kia met its burden to put forward a legitimate business
    reason for firing Ms. Gogel. Deposition testimony and Ms. Gogel’s termination
    letter support Kia’s claim it terminated Gogel because management believed her to
    be actively recruiting other employees to file lawsuits against Kia. Kia also
    produced evidence that it believed this conduct to be in direct conflict with Ms.
    Gogel’s job responsibilities. These responsibilities, according to Kia, included
    working to ensure that team members did not involve third parties—by way of
    litigation, government organizations, and labor unions—in the resolution of
    workplace disputes. I think this was sufficient for Kia to meet its burden of
    showing a legitimate, non-retaliatory reason for dismissing Ms. Gogel. But I also
    believe there remain factual disputes about whether this reason was pretextual.
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    B. Ms. Gogel presented sufficient evidence that Kia’s reasons for
    dismissing her were pretextual.
    Having addressed the first two steps of the McDonnell Douglas framework,
    I will now outline the factual disputes raised by Ms. Gogel in her assertion that
    Kia’s reasons for her firing were a pretext for its discrimination against her. First,
    there are factual disputes over the nature of her core job responsibilities and
    whether her conduct rendered her unable to properly perform them. These disputes
    go to whether Ms. Gogel’s activities were “reasonable under the circumstances and
    were warranted by [her] employer’s conduct.” 
    Payne, 654 F.2d at 1145
    . Second,
    there is a dispute over whether Ms. Gogel’s inability to perform her core job
    responsibilities was the actual reason for her dismissal. This goes to whether the
    reason given for her dismissal was a pretext for unlawful retaliation. 
    Lewis, 918 F.3d at 1221
    . My review shows that Ms. Gogel produced sufficient evidence to
    create a triable issue of fact on both of these questions at the final stage of
    McDonnell Douglas.
    1. Ms. Gogel’s responsibilities as Team Relations manager
    First, Ms. Gogel pointed to sufficient record evidence to raise an issue of
    fact about whether her job involved the resolution of Title VII disputes. The
    majority opinion fails to recognize the factual disputes over Ms. Gogel’s duties as
    Team Relations manager, and improperly accepts Kia’s version instead. See Evans
    v. Stephens, 
    407 F.3d 1272
    , 1278 (11th Cir. 2005) (en banc) (holding that “when
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    conflicts arise between the facts evidenced by the parties, we credit the nonmoving
    party’s version” (emphasis omitted)). It is not for judges to decide whether Ms.
    Gogel’s conduct was reasonable. Rather, this is a classic fact question reserved for
    a jury to decide. 4
    Kia hired Ms. Gogel as Team Relations manager in March 2008. The stated
    purpose of the Team Relations department was to create standards and policies to
    support “an environment of positive team relations,” develop standards around
    behavior, help “set a positive culture,” and help employees “understand what the
    rules and guidelines of the workplace were.” Ms. Gogel’s job responsibilities
    included “promot[ing] high team member morale and prevent[ing] unwelcomed
    activity within [Kia].”
    But there is conflicting evidence over what, precisely, “prevent[ing]
    unwelcomed activity” entailed. Kia says the primary role of the Team Relations
    department was to resolve employment disputes before employees resorted to help
    from an outside party, such as an attorney, labor union, or the EEOC. If true, this
    would support the conclusion of the majority opinion that actively recruiting staff
    to participate in a discrimination lawsuit was directly contrary to Ms. Gogel’s
    primary role. But nothing in Ms. Gogel’s job description says she was tasked with
    4
    The Civil Rights Act of 1991 entitles a Title VII plaintiff seeking the award of
    compensatory or punitive damages to a jury trial. Civil Rights Act of 1991 § 102, 42 U.S.C.
    § 1981a(c).
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    resolving discrimination complaints internally. Beyond that, the parties offer
    conflicting testimony on this question. Ms. Gogel testified that she understood
    “unwelcome activity” to mean “union organizing activity,” as opposed to EEOC
    charges or lawsuits. On the other hand, Arthur Williams, assistant manager of the
    Team Relations department, testified that the role of the Team Relations
    department was to “help team members stay out of legal situations and try to
    resolve problems prior to them getting that bad.” Latesa Bailey, Kia’s Rule
    30(b)(6) witness, testified that one of Ms. Gogel’s roles was to avoid employment
    conflicts before employees resorted to outside parties. And Robert Tyler, the
    Human Resources Manager at the Georgia plant, said ensuring that team members
    did not turn to third parties to resolve disputes was only “one of the
    responsibilities” of the Team Relations department.
    As this review of the record makes clear, the only evidence about whether
    Ms. Gogel’s job required her to prevent employees from resorting to litigation to
    resolve discrimination claims comes from contradicted deposition testimony.
    Thus, resolving this question requires weighing witness credibility. And again, it
    is not the role of judges to pick between conflicting factual accounts at the
    summary judgment stage of a case. Anderson v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 
    477 U.S. 242
    , 255, 
    106 S. Ct. 2505
    , 2513 (1986) (stating that resolving contradictory
    testimony requires making credibility determination and weighing evidence, which
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    are improper at summary judgment because they “are jury functions, not those of a
    judge”); 
    Evans, 407 F.3d at 1277
    . Notably, this factual dispute goes to the heart
    of Ms. Gogel’s retaliation claim. If preventing discrimination litigation was not
    part of Ms. Gogel’s job, or was only incidental to it, then Kia cannot credibly claim
    the assistance she provided Ms. Ledbetter rendered Gogel so ineffective in her job
    that she was due to be fired. Indeed, if a factfinder decided that preventing
    discrimination litigation was not a part of Ms. Gogel’s job, this would strongly
    support the further finding that Kia’s dismissal of Ms. Gogel was prohibited
    retaliation. Rather than address this dispute, however, the majority improperly
    credits the deposition testimony presented by Kia over the contradictory testimony
    offered by Ms. Gogel. Maj. Op at 44–47; see also
    id. at 50.
    The majority leans heavily on Kia’s claim that Ms. Gogel’s job duties
    included assisting Kia’s legal department in investigating EEOC charges. True,
    the Team Relations department, which Ms. Gogel headed, occasionally conducted
    investigations into policy violations, attendance issues, and internal discrimination
    claims. However, the parties’ accounts of how important these investigations were
    to Ms. Gogel’s job are quite different. Ms. Gogel says that EEOC investigations
    were not central to her job and that her primary role was to prevent union
    organizing activity and ensure that Kia employees “understand what the rules and
    guidelines of the workplace were.” In support, she introduced evidence that the
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    Team Relations department only investigated EEOC charges at the direction of Kia
    legal counsel and that her role did not include the resolution of these issues. Ms.
    Gogel understood the Team Relations department, in contrast to the Kia Legal
    Department, was tasked primarily with “building . . . systems and processes to
    ensure fair and equitable treatment, and . . . facilitat[ing] high employee morale.”
    As before, the majority resolves this dispute by accepting Kia’s version of
    the facts. And on this issue, like the first, the specific responsibilities of Ms.
    Gogel’s job are central to resolving whether the form of opposition imputed to
    her—soliciting another employee to file a discrimination charge against Kia—was
    reasonable. See Hochstadt v. Worcester Found. for Experimental Biology, 
    545 F.2d 222
    , 230–31 (1st Cir. 1976) (holding that, in balancing the scope of
    reasonable opposition conduct, “[t]he requirements of the job and the tolerable
    limits of conduct in a particular setting must be explored”). If Ms. Gogel’s job
    required her to assist in EEOC investigations only rarely, it would render Kia’s
    claim that her opposition conduct made her ineffective in her position significantly
    less credible and more likely to be pretextual.
    The majority’s failure to recognize the disputes over Ms. Gogel’s job
    requirements is particularly consequential here, where Kia has never pointed to a
    clear company policy that she violated. By Ms. Gogel’s account, her job
    responsibilities were significantly different than those of the plaintiffs in Hamm,
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    Whatley v. Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority, 
    632 F.2d 1325
    (5th Cir.
    1980), and Jones. In those cases there was evidence that the plaintiff employees
    had violated either clear administrative protocols for handling discrimination
    complaints, see 
    Hamm, 708 F.2d at 653
    ; 
    Whatley, 632 F.2d at 1326
    –27, or a clear
    obligation to represent the employer in administrative proceedings and attempt to
    resolve discrimination complaints in a manner favorable to the company, 
    Jones, 793 F.2d at 716
    –17. Kia, in contrast, emphasizes Ms. Gogel’s breach of the trust
    that management placed in her and the loyalty it expected from her. Whether any
    employee has met this general and aspirational job requirement is not readily
    apparent, unlike those policies violated in the cases relied upon in the majority
    opinion.
    In the absence of a clear violation of company policy, a jury should decide
    whether it was reasonable for Kia to fire Ms. Gogel because her opposition
    conduct made her ineffective at her job. Again, it is not for judges to resolve
    disputes of fact about Ms. Gogel’s specific job duties and responsibilities. And
    when the majority opinion anchors its decision on Kia’s assertions that it lost
    “trust” in Ms. Gogel, it necessarily gives credence to one side’s facts over the
    other. By taking over this fact-finding function, our court has reduced the scope of
    Title VII’s protections for thousands of people whose positions in human resources
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    put them in incidental contact with EEOC complaints. 5 This undermines the
    overall effectiveness of Title VII, which “depends for its enforcement upon the
    cooperation of employees who are willing to file complaints and act as witnesses.”
    Burlington N. & Santa Fe Ry. Co. v. White, 
    548 U.S. 53
    , 67, 
    126 S. Ct. 2405
    , 2414
    (2006). Thus, today’s ruling chips away at the statute’s goal of “strik[ing] at the
    entire spectrum of disparate treatment of men and women in employment.” Meritor
    Sav. Bank, FSB v. Vinson, 
    477 U.S. 57
    , 64, 
    106 S. Ct. 2399
    , 2404 (1986)
    (quotation marks omitted).
    2. Ms. Gogel’s own EEOC complaint
    Separate from the question of whether Ms. Gogel’s opposition conduct was
    reasonable, there is also a dispute about whether she was fired because she filed
    her own EEOC charge. As the majority acknowledges, filing an EEOC charge is
    protected participation conduct and is therefore not a permissible basis for an
    adverse employment action. Maj. Op. at 43. Again here, this evidence creates a
    triable issue of fact concerning Kia’s reason for firing Ms. Gogel. It therefore
    5
    Amici from the Florida and Georgia chapters of the National Employment Lawyers
    Association point us to statistics kept by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which now show that in
    2018 there were over 625,000 “human resources specialists” and 150,000 “human resources
    managers” in the United States. See Br. of Amici Curiae National Employment Lawyers
    Association, Florida and Georgia Chapters at 19–20; Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Dep’t of
    Labor, Occupational Outlook Handbook, “Human Resources Specialists,”
    https://www.bls.gov/ooh/business-and-financial/human-resources-specialists.htm (last visited
    March 19, 2020), and “Human Resource Managers,”
    https://www.bls.gov/ooh/management/human-resources-managers.htm (last visited March 19,
    2020).
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    provides another independent ground for reversing the grant of summary
    judgment.6
    First, Ms. Gogel points to the timing of the filing of her EEOC charge and
    her suspension and firing. Close temporal proximity can support a finding of
    causation between a statutorily protected activity and an adverse employment
    action. See Thomas v. Cooper Lighting, Inc., 
    506 F.3d 1361
    , 1364 (11th Cir.
    2007) (per curiam). Ms. Gogel filed her first EEOC charge on November 10,
    2010. Kia received it on November 22. Ms. Gogel was fired less than two months
    later. This evidence supports the inference that her filing of the EEOC charge,
    rather than concerns about her effectiveness in her position, was the real reason for
    her discharge. Even if the two-month gap between the filing of Ms. Gogel’s
    6
    The majority points to the holding in the original panel opinion that Ms. Gogel could
    not prove causation for her gender and national origin claim based solely on the fact that she
    filed her own EEOC charge. See Maj. Op. at 27 n.17. True, the now-vacated opinion said that,
    although the timing of Ms. Gogel’s filing of her EEOC charge tended to show that the reason
    offered by Kia for her firing was pretextual, that evidence failed to show that the “real reason”
    was national origin or gender discrimination. See Gogel v. Kia Motors Mfg. of Ga., Inc., 
    904 F.3d 1226
    , 1239 (11th Cir. 2018) (citing St. Mary’s Honor Ctr. v. Hicks, 
    509 U.S. 502
    , 515, 
    113 S. Ct. 2742
    , 2752 (1993)). The majority fails to note, however, that the prior panel expressly
    said this same evidence does support Ms. Gogel’s retaliation claims.
    Id. I
    have been consistent
    in this regard, and the en banc majority’s suggestion to the contrary does not accurately reflect
    the history of this case.
    Beyond this, the majority’s statement that I “appeared” to take what they perceive as a
    slightly different position in the original panel opinion ignores the nature of our court’s work by
    way of three-judge panels. I wrote the panel opinion with the active advice and assistance of the
    Honorable Diarmuid O’Scannlain, who was visiting our court from the U.S. Court of Appeals for
    the Ninth Circuit. Judge O’Scannlain and I agreed that Ms. Gogel should rightfully been given a
    trial based on the record we reviewed. Sadly, now that the majority of active judges on my court
    has vacated our opinion, I must proceed without Judge O’Scannlain’s input. It is perfectly
    natural and proper for me to express my ideas in new ways in this en banc setting.
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    EEOC charge and her suspension were not alone enough to conclusively prove a
    causal link, there is more. Additional record evidence would allow a reasonable
    jury to infer that the real reason for Ms. Gogel’s firing was not management
    concerns about the assistance she provided Ms. Ledbetter but was retaliation for
    filing her own EEOC charge.
    This additional evidence includes evidence that Kia retaliated against others,
    like Mr. Tyler and Ms. Ledbetter, when they filed their own EEOC charges. The
    record shows Kia fired Mr. Tyler shortly after he filed his own charge. There is
    also evidence that Kia pressured Ms. Ledbetter to admit that Ms. Gogel
    encouraged her to file an EEOC charge. And there is evidence that Kia later
    pressured Ledbetter to drop her EEOC charges altogether. Such evidence of other
    retaliatory conduct—sometimes referred to as “me too” evidence—is probative of
    Kia’s intent to retaliate against Ms. Gogel for filing her own EEOC charge. See
    Furcron v. Mail Ctrs. Plus, LLC, 
    843 F.3d 1295
    , 1309 (11th Cir. 2016).
    Ms. Gogel also submitted evidence that calls into question whether her
    supervisors sincerely believed she colluded to file lawsuits against Kia. Both Ms.
    Gogel and Ms. Ledbetter say they affirmatively denied Kia’s accusations of
    collusion. And deposition testimony revealed that the only other co-workers
    interviewed before Ms. Gogel’s termination were Arthur Williams and Paul
    Grimes, neither of whom had direct knowledge of whether Ms. Gogel and Ms.
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    Ledbetter were colluding. As the majority correctly observes, Kia was entitled to
    choose between conflicting versions of events “as long as the choice [was] an
    honest choice,” Total Systems 
    Services, 221 F.3d at 1176
    , and Kia “in good faith
    believed” in the factual basis of its adverse employment action, 
    Elrod, 939 F.2d at 1470
    (quotation marks omitted). Maj. Op. at 51–52. But the evidence nonetheless
    casts doubt on whether Kia conducted a reasonable investigation of Ms. Gogel’s
    conduct and whether it sincerely and reasonably believed she had colluded with
    Ms. Ledbetter.
    Taken together, the evidence submitted by Ms. Gogel raises sufficient
    “weaknesses, implausibilities, inconsistencies, incoherencies, or contradictions” in
    Kia’s reasons for terminating her that “a reasonable factfinder could find them
    unworthy of credence.” Combs v. Plantation Patterns, 
    106 F.3d 1519
    , 1538 (11th
    Cir. 1997) (quotation marks omitted).
    III.
    Aside from the errors in its legal analysis, I am also troubled by the critical
    tone the majority opinion takes in describing Ms. Gogel. The record before us
    shows that Ms. Gogel was never subject to disciplinary action of any kind from the
    date of her hiring at Kia until the dispute that is the subject of this lawsuit arose.
    Indeed, Ms. Gogel’s supervisor at Kia testified under oath that Gogel was “always
    very professional” and had no complaints filed against her.
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    The majority opinion seems to lose sight of the fact that the question before
    us is about a limited exception to Title VII’s protections and that, even under Kia’s
    account of the facts, Ms. Gogel’s actions were motivated by her desire to assist a
    fellow employee respond to perceived gender discrimination. But for the unique
    requirements of Ms. Gogel’s job, her conduct would undisputedly be protected
    under § 2000e-3. Indeed, not only is such conduct protected, it is necessary to
    achieve Title VII’s goal of eliminating gender discrimination from the workplace.
    See 
    Burlington, 548 U.S. at 67
    , 126 S. Ct. at 2414.
    Were I in the majority, I would not have included the recitation from Kia’s
    EEOC position statement, particularly the assertion that Ms. Gogel was “blatantly
    dishonest when explicitly questioned about Diana Ledbetter.” Maj. Op. at 19. As
    outlined above, there is a genuine factual dispute over the nature and extent of Ms.
    Gogel’s assistance to Ms. Ledbetter. There is therefore no basis for this Court to
    include language indicating that Ms. Gogel was dishonest. Ms. Gogel’s credibility
    is not at issue in a motion for summary judgment. See 
    Anderson, 477 U.S. at 255
    ,
    106 S. Ct. at 2513. And we should honor the fact that Kia has not argued that it
    fired Ms. Gogel because she was suspected of lying to her supervisors.
    I also would not have included quotations from the deposition testimony of
    Ms. Gogel’s co-workers which disparaged her work methods. Maj. Op. at 44–46.
    As judges, we were never a part of Ms. Gogel’s workplace and it was not our
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    charge to make findings about how she conducted herself there. We are therefore
    in no position to judge the credibility of the accounts her co-workers gave about
    her. Repeating these disparaging accounts in a judicial opinion can do permanent
    harm to Ms. Gogel’s reputation when she has never been provided any opportunity
    to subject those negative accounts to adversarial testing. It is the role of the courts
    to receive complaints from people who, like Andrea Gogel, believe they lost their
    jobs for reasons the law prohibits. Plaintiffs should not fear having their
    reputations tarnished by judges reviewing legal questions, simply because they
    presented their grievance to the courts.
    IV.
    The majority opinion misapplies the McDonnell Douglas burden-shifting
    framework and improperly resolves disputes over important facts at the summary
    judgment stage. Because these issues should be resolved at trial, I respectfully
    dissent.
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    ROSENBAUM, Circuit Judge, joined by MARTIN and JILL PRYOR, Circuit
    Judges, dissenting:
    Like decades of our precedent, the Majority Opinion recognizes a valid
    concern that employers legitimately demand employee loyalty where those
    employers attempt in good faith to comply with Title VII. But the Majority Opinion
    goes too far. It goes off the rails when it ignores the rest of what our precedent
    requires; that is, today’s ruling effectively immunizes employers’ illegitimate
    demands for loyalty when those employers consistently discriminate and retaliate
    against their employees and obstruct any efforts to comply with Title VII.
    To do this, the Majority Opinion creates a new rule that departs from our
    longstanding precedent and essentially bans any employee with any type of Title
    VII-related responsibilities from so much as discussing Title VII’s EEOC process
    with any other employee. And if the employee with Title VII-related duties violates
    this new rule, she risks losing all personal Title VII rights. Remarkably, as this case
    shows when we consider all the evidence (not just that cherry-picked by the Majority
    Opinion), the Majority Opinion’s new rule applies even if the employer has
    affirmatively acted in bad faith and set up its internal Title VII process for the
    purpose of frustrating Title VII’s very goals.
    Title VII was enacted, in relevant part, to “seek[] a workplace where
    individuals are not discriminated against because of their . . . gender-based status.”
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    Burlington N. & Santa Fe Ry. Co. v. White, 
    548 U.S. 53
    , 63 (2006). And the
    “primary purpose” of Title VII’s antiretaliation provision is “maintaining unfettered
    access to statutory remedial mechanisms.”
    Id. at 64
    (cleaned up). Far from securing
    “unfettered access,” the Majority Opinion’s new rule ensures human-resources
    employees will never speak one word about the law’s “statutory remedial
    mechanisms” to other employees, under even the most sustained discriminatory
    circumstances. And if they do, the Majority Opinion’s new rule permits employers
    to fire those human-resources employees with complete Title VII impunity.
    Considering that, as of 2018, there were roughly 775,000 human-resources
    employees nationwide1—and these now-silenced employees are often the
    employees most familiar with Title VII’s protections—the Majority Opinion’s new
    rule has the potential to inflict a devastating blow to the Title VII rights of both
    human-resources employees and the employees they serve.
    True, for those employers who follow both the letter and spirit of the law in
    trying to foster a business environment free from discrimination, the Majority
    Opinion does not change anything. But for those employers who treat their Title VII
    obligations as an obstacle to avoid and discharge their responsibilities with bad faith,
    1
    This number comes from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and its Occupational
    Outlook Handbook. According to that source, in 2018, the most recent year for which these
    statistics appear to be available, there were 625,700 human-resources-specialist positions in the
    United States, https://www.bls.gov/ooh/business-and-financial/human-resources-specialists.htm
    (last visited May 5, 2020), plus 152,100 human-resources-manager positions in the United States,
    https://www.bls.gov/ooh/management/human-resources-managers.htm (last visited May 5, 2020).
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    this is a welcome development. The Majority Opinion’s new rule turns Title VII’s
    purpose on its head and rewards employers who intentionally violate the law. That
    obviously is wrong.
    Here, we see a demonstration of how the Majority Opinion’s new rule plays
    out when the employer undertakes its so-called Title VII compliance efforts in bad
    faith.2 For the nearly three years Andrea Gogel worked at KMMG, she must have
    felt as if she were working in a house of sexist horrors. Almost immediately after
    Gogel began working for KMMG as its Team Relations Manager—a job that
    required her to deal in some ways with Title VII complaints 3—she witnessed
    KMMG’s discriminatory treatment of its female employees. Indeed, Gogel herself
    experienced some of this unending sexist behavior firsthand. She also received
    official complaints about it from her fellow employees, both male and female.
    As part of her job, Gogel brought these issues to Randy Jackson, KMMG’s
    Director of Human Resources and Administration and the one person who should
    2
    Because this case was decided on a motion for summary judgment, this dissent construes
    the evidence and draws all reasonable inferences in the light most favorable to Gogel as the
    nonmoving party. Williamson v. Brevard Cty., 
    928 F.3d 1296
    , 1304 (11th Cir. 2019). As a result,
    the facts set forth here may or may not be the real facts. Were the case to proceed to trial, it would
    be up to a jury to decide whether to accept the evidence supporting Gogel’s version of the facts.
    3
    Judge Martin points out that a dispute of material fact exists on this record over precisely
    what Gogel’s duties entailed. See Martin Dissent at Section II.B.1. I agree, but since Judge Martin
    has already addressed this point, my dissent assumes KMMG’s assertion that a primary part of
    Gogel’s job was to resolve employment disputes before employees resorted to help from an outside
    party, such as an attorney, labor union, or the EEOC. Even with this assumption, as I show below,
    the record still contains disputes of material fact that preclude summary judgment.
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    have helped her. His responses ranged from useless (doing nothing) to intentionally
    destructive (instructing Gogel to embrace KMMG’s “[p]atriarchal” way of doing
    things or retaliating against Gogel). Through this system of reporting, KMMG was
    able to appear—through Gogel—to offer an internal Title VII process while, in
    reality, avoiding compliance with Title VII. Looks can be deceiving. In short,
    KMMG and Jackson used Gogel as a mechanism to frustrate Title VII compliance.
    The Majority Opinion fails to arrive at this conclusion, which should have
    been inevitable, because it makes two significant errors—each of which
    independently dooms its analysis.
    First, the Majority Opinion fails to heed our binding precedent. It does not
    actually apply the factors in the Rollins 4 balancing test when it evaluates whether
    Gogel’s alleged advice to Ledbetter to file an EEOC charge constituted protected
    activity on this record. Instead, the Majority Opinion simply identifies the test and
    refers to it to deny Gogel’s claim.
    But the test requires much more than that. It demands that we “balanc[e] the
    purpose of [Title VII] and the need to protect individuals asserting their rights
    thereunder against an employer’s legitimate demands for loyalty, cooperation and a
    generally productive work environment.” 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 400
    -01. The Majority
    Opinion affords zero consideration to, let alone discussion of, the first part of this
    4
    Rollins v. State of Fla. Dep’t of Law Enf’t, 
    868 F.2d 397
    , 401 (11th Cir. 1989).
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    balancing test:       the purpose of Title VII to “eliminat[e] discrimination in
    employment.” Payne v. McLemore’s Wholesale & Retail Stores, 
    654 F.2d 1130
    ,
    1139 (5th Cir. Unit A Sept. 4, 1981). 5 It also skimps on its analysis of “the need to
    protect individuals asserting their [Title VII] rights.” And it utterly disregards the
    requirement in the third part of the balancing test that an employer’s demands for
    loyalty, cooperation, and a generally productive work environment be “legitimate.”
    A “balancing test” that automatically credits the employer’s “demands for loyalty,
    cooperation and a generally productive work environment” (regardless of
    legitimacy) and accounts for nothing else is no balancing test at all; it’s a rubber
    stamp. If the Majority Opinion had correctly applied the balancing test, it would
    have concluded that, under our binding precedent and on this record, a jury must
    decide whether Gogel’s alleged advice to Ledbetter to file an EEOC claim
    constituted protected activity.
    Second, even if we overlook the Majority Opinion’s failure to follow our long-
    established precedent that requires actual application of the Rollins balancing test to
    determine when otherwise-protected Title VII conduct becomes unprotected, the
    Majority Opinion errs in another important way that independently requires vacatur
    of summary judgment here. It inexplicably insists that Gogel’s retaliation claim was
    5
    See Bonner v. City of Prichard, 
    661 F.2d 1206
    , 1207 (11th Cir. 1981) (en banc) (holding
    that all decisions of the “old Fifth” Circuit handed down prior to the close of business on September
    30, 1981, are binding precedent in the Eleventh Circuit).
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    based solely on her filing of an EEOC claim. So it refuses to consider in its analysis
    her nearly three years of opposing discrimination at KMMG and the retaliation she
    suffered during that period as a result.      It does this even though Gogel has
    consistently argued her opposition conduct as part of her retaliation claim.
    As a result of the Majority Opinion’s insistence on analyzing a mere fraction
    of Gogel’s retaliation claim, the Majority Opinion fails to consider, in the context
    Gogel actually alleged, Randy Jackson’s suspect claim that he fired Gogel because
    he believed she had solicited Diana Ledbetter to file suit against KMMG.
    Unsurprisingly, ignoring a litany of crucial facts leads the Majority Opinion to
    conclude incorrectly that no issue of material fact exists as to whether KMMG’s
    proffered reason for firing Gogel was pretextual. And that leads the Majority
    Opinion to erroneously affirm the grant of summary judgment for KMMG.
    I divide my discussion of the Majority Opinion’s errors into three substantive
    parts. To provide a context for demonstrating the problems of each of the Majority
    Opinion’s mistakes and because the Majority Opinion’s picked-over version of the
    facts fails to capture the rampant discrimination and retaliation that KMMG
    regularly engaged in, Section I sets forth relevant facts. In Section II, I properly
    apply the Rollins test to the facts of this case, showing that, under our binding
    precedent, a jury should be permitted to determine whether, on this record, Gogel’s
    alleged solicitation of Ledbetter constituted protected activity under Title VII for
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    which Gogel could not be terminated. Finally, Section III assumes arguendo that
    Gogel’s alleged solicitation of Ledbetter could never qualify as protected activity.
    It then shows that, in any case, the Majority Opinion incorrectly concluded that
    Gogel did not identify a genuine issue of material fact about the reason KMMG fired
    her.
    I.
    Before I set forth the numerous important facts that the Majority Opinion
    conveniently ignores, I pause to emphasize the standard on a motion for summary
    judgment. We are, of course, required to accept the evidence in the light most
    favorable to the non-moving party, see Williamson v. Brevard Cty., 
    928 F.3d 1296
    ,
    1304 (11th Cir. 2019)—here, Gogel. We are also required to draw all reasonable
    inferences in favor of the non-moving party. See
    id. Notably, the Majority
    Opinion
    does not contest any of the facts below that, employing this summary-judgment
    standard, I have drawn from the record here. 6 That means that we must account for
    them in our summary-judgment analysis.
    To give just a little taste of what women at KMMG had to contend with, I
    recount some of the conditions Gogel and those who complained to her experienced:
    6
    Nonetheless, I include pincite references to the evidence of record to allow any interested
    reader to evaluate for herself the evidence on which I rely in my recitation of the facts. References
    are to the district-court ECF number and the CM/ECF-imprinted page number. For evidence from
    deposition transcripts, I include both the CM/ECF-imprinted page number and a parenthetical
    reference to the page numbers of the deposition transcript, since four deposition transcript pages
    appear on each CM/ECF-numbered page.
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    Two men reported to Gogel that women who were deemed “not pretty” were
    hidden, and young female professionals who were viewed as “pretty” were forced
    to pretend they were receptionists when Kia VIPs visited. ECF No. 117 at 45(180)-
    46(181). In fact, a woman was dismissed from the front-desk receptionist position
    “because she was considered unattractive.” ECF No. 101-1 at 10. Women security
    officers were also “hid[den]” when Kia VIPs visited.
    Id. at 6;
    ECF No. 119 at
    43(168). Jackson did not try to deny what was happening when Gogel expressed
    concern about it. To the contrary, he told her that appearances were very important
    to Kia. ECF No. 101-1 at 15.
    Some employees were also told that “only young pretty women can be hired
    in [G]eneral [A]ffairs.”   ECF No. 117 at 30(119).        KMMG employee Diana
    Ledbetter, who was in General Affairs, complained to Gogel about that and sought
    to transfer out of that section. Jackson had a chance to rectify the situation when
    Gogel told him about it. But once again, he failed to do so: he just laughed and said
    a decision had already been made (presumably, regarding the denial of Ledbetter’s
    transfer request).
    Id. Women, including Gogel,
    were excluded from meetings that, based on their
    job duties, they should have been a part of and that Gogel’s male subordinates took
    part in.
    Id. at 40(160), 41(161), 154;
    ECF No. 101-1 at 11. In fact, Jackson told Bob
    Tyler, KMMG’s Head of Department for Human Resources and Team Relations,
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    that he did not want Gogel to attend termination-review meetings, even though that
    was part of her job as Team Relations Manager. ECF No. 121 at 35(140); ECF No.
    117 at 113. Even when Gogel was included in meetings, Jackson instructed her not
    to “speak at all.” But the men in the room, including Gogel’s male subordinates,
    were permitted to speak. ECF No. 117 at 43 (171-72), 44(174-76); ECF No. 121 at
    34(136)-35(137-140).
    Gogel perceived herself to be viewed by KMMG as a “token” female
    manager, and she was directed to make herself “prominent in photographs [taken]
    whenever [she] was invited to a meeting that [she] typically would otherwise have
    not been invited to.” ECF No. 117 at 40(159); ECF No. 101-1 at 12.
    Kevin Kim, KMMG’s senior manager for Human Relations, Training, and
    Organizational Development, instructed Rayla Smoot, the assistant manager of
    Training and Organizational Development, to use sexist materials to train employees
    on “gender differences.” ECF No. 117 at 59(233-35); ECF No. 115 at 23(87-88).
    In particular, the training content showed a man and a woman. ECF No. 117 at
    59(233-35). A cartoon bubble over the man’s head said he was thinking about sex,
    and the bubble over the woman’s head indicated she was thinking about “shallow,
    stereotypical kinds of things,” such as her clothes and what she was going to wear.
    Id. When Smoot complained
    to Gogel, Gogel told her not to use the materials.
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    Ledbetter complained to Gogel of reasons to believe the president of Kia was
    having an intimate relationship with a subordinate, who was also a manager.
    Id. at 43(169);
    ECF No. 101-2 at 2. She was not the only one who thought so; rather,
    “[t]he alleged affair was a highly rumored topic.” ECF No. 119 at 99. If the
    allegations were true, that relationship was contrary to KMMG’s written anti-
    harassment policy, which “prohibit[ed] romantic or sexual relationships between any
    KMMG member of management and any subordinate Team Member.” See ECF
    No. 93-11 at 4. KMMG’s policy explained that, “given the uneven balance of power
    within such relationships, consent by the Team Member is suspect and may be
    viewed by others or, at a later date, by the Team Member himself or herself as having
    been given as a result of coercion or intimidation.”
    Id. at 5.
    Among other things,
    Gogel was concerned that the subordinate “could be involved in something that she
    wasn’t consenting to, because there was such a dramatic difference in the levels [of
    responsibility between the president and the subordinate].” ECF No. 117 at 43(170).
    She was also worried that there might be a quid pro quo relationship between the
    president and the subordinate. ECF No. 101-1 at 4-5.
    But when Gogel discussed the matter with Jackson and sought to investigate
    it to ensure that KMMG was complying with Title VII, Jackson prohibited her from
    doing so. Id.; see also ECF No. 117 at 31(121); ECF No. 101-2 at 2-3. Gogel was
    not the only one to express concern to Jackson about the alleged relationship; Tyler
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    did as well. ECF No. 121 at 32(127-28); ECF No. 101-2 at 2-3. As with Gogel,
    Jackson also instructed Tyler not to investigate the allegations. ECF No. 121 at
    32(127-28); ECF No. 101-2 at 2-3.
    A few weeks later, Kim (KMMG’s senior manager for Human Relations,
    Training, and Organizational Development) instructed Gogel to go ahead and
    conduct a secret investigation into the subordinate—not the president—and not to
    tell Jackson. ECF No. 117 at 31(121-22). Soon after that, though, Kim demanded
    Gogel “stop the investigation, do not gather any more information, and destroy all
    information related to anything that [she] had done.”
    Id. at 31(122).
    Kim’s attitude
    towards Gogel then changed for the worse.
    Id. When KMMG reorganized
    its management structure in 2009, every male
    manager where no higher level of management existed in the home office was made
    a head of department.
    Id. at 32(126).
    But Gogel, the only woman who was a
    manager where a higher level of management did not exist in the home office, was
    not similarly promoted.
    Id. at 32(125-26).
    Jackson made the decision not to elevate
    Gogel. ECF No. 115 at 35(134).
    Gogel met with Jackson and told him she felt that she was being treated
    differently because of her gender. ECF No. 117 at 30(117). When she asked why
    she had not been made Head of Team Relations, Jackson told her that Tyler had been
    made Head of both the Team Relations and Human Resources Departments and that
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    two Heads of Department were not necessary for these two different departments.
    Id. at 32 (126-28).
    He also told her it was a matter of timing.
    Id. Gogel questioned these
    rationales in 2009 and 2010 and explained why she thought they were suspect.
    Id. at 47(185-86).
    Jackson responded by asking Gogel whether she thought her prior
    employer would take her back.
    Id. Gogel also thought
    the concerns she reported
    about the alleged relationship between the company’s president and a subordinate
    contributed to KMMG’s decision not to make her a head of department.
    Id. at 31(123).
    Throughout Gogel’s employment with KMMG, there were fourteen
    employees who served in the two highest levels of local management. Not a single
    one was a woman.
    Id. at 117-18, 61(244).
    Meanwhile, Tyler, the newly designated Head of Department for both Human
    Resources and Team Relations in the reorganization, was instructed by Jackson to
    revise his favorable ratings of Gogel to make them less favorable. ECF No. 121 at
    22(87). So even though Tyler believed Gogel should have been promoted to senior
    manager and Tyler was the one to sign Gogel’s appraisal, he had to follow Jackson’s
    instructions and give Gogel lower ratings with which he disagreed.
    Id. at 22(87-88), 24(95-96), 25(97-98).
    As it turned out, Tyler explained, the ratings were supposed
    to be used to determine who should be promoted to senior manager, but in fact, the
    decisions were made without reference to the ratings. The ratings were simply
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    created to appear consistent with the promotion decisions.
    Id. at 22(87-88)-23(89- 92).
    More smoke and mirrors.
    Gogel was fired from KMMG in January 2011, and KMMG replaced her as
    manager of Team Relations with Arthur Williams, Gogel’s former subordinate. 7
    Later, KMMG made Williams Head of Department for Team Relations and
    appointed a separate Head of Department for Human Resources, notwithstanding
    that its rationale for not promoting Gogel had been that only one Head of Department
    for both departments was needed. ECF No. 123 at 41(159-60)-43(165-66).
    Besides these incidents, while Gogel was still employed with KMMG,
    KMMG repeatedly asked “illegal, non-job related questions during and after pre-
    employment interviews and the selection/recruitment process.” ECF No. 117 at 154.
    Among others, these questions concerned age and marital status.
    Id. Though these actions
    were brought to the attention of Jackson and KMMG’s executive team, the
    behavior continued.
    Id. at 155;
    ECF No. 118 at 1. And those KMMG employees
    who attempted to correct the situation were met with “a systematic approach to
    discredit and harass” them. ECF No. 117 at 155.
    7
    During the period when Gogel supervised Williams, according to Williams’s deposition
    testimony, Williams commented that a black dress Gogel had worn to the funeral for a colleague’s
    father was “skimpy” and was not “appropriate.” ECF No. 123 at 80(315-16). On another occasion,
    Williams told Gogel she “dressed like a ‘Filipino prostitute,’” based on the “high-heeled shoes”
    she was wearing.
    Id. at 80(316)-81(320).
    Williams also thought Gogel “took the side of women.”
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    When a server at a KMMG event was pregnant, Ledbetter, who had planned
    the event, was instructed to have the server removed.
    Id. at 51(201).
    Ledbetter
    complained to Gogel’s then-subordinate, Williams.
    Id. At least two
    women resigned from KMMG “largely as a result of the general
    mistreatment of females and gender-based discrimination.”
    Id. at 156.
    Before they
    resigned, Team Relations brought the women’s concerns to KMMG, but “Team
    Relations was not permitted to conduct prompt, thorough investigations.”
    Id. I
    ndeed, as far back as August 14, 2009, Gogel emailed KMMG’s Human Relations
    and advised, “Some women feel singled out and humiliated—not sure if goal is to
    get rid of them or just ‘put them in their place.’” ECF No. 120 at 121.
    When a woman returned from maternity leave, Richard Park, the senior legal
    manager, told her she was a bad mother for coming back to work. ECF No. 117 at
    60(238); see also ECF No. 93-6 at 2. The woman reported the incident to Gogel.
    ECF No. 117 at 60(239). Gogel felt unable to address the situation because of the
    senior legal manager’s rank in comparison to her own, so she directed the woman to
    Jackson and Tyler.
    Id. Jackson spoke to
    Park and the woman about the incident and
    decided that the woman had misconstrued Park’s statements. ECF No. 115 at
    37(143-44). The woman ultimately resigned, citing the statement from Park as a
    reason why. ECF No. 93-6 at 2. Upon resigning, she further explained that once
    she returned from maternity leave, she “didn’t have a true position.”
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    “was assigned mundane tasks that were left behind and things no one else wanted,
    in addition to unchallenging tasks.”
    Id. The woman opined
    that KMMG’s company
    culture was “if you are a woman you will only climb so far in the organization, and
    if you are a woman with children your place is at home.”
    Id. Two male managers
    in the company’s stamping group—one of whom was the
    group’s senior manager—complained to Gogel that a female manager in stamping
    was being treated poorly by a subordinate because she was a woman. ECF No. 117
    at 46(182-84). According to these men, the male subordinate was extremely
    disrespectful to the female manager.
    Id. Among other incidents,
    he told the woman
    she was nothing but a young girl and commented on the fact that she wore makeup.
    Id. Gogel told Jackson
    and Kim that the male subordinate needed to be disciplined.
    Id. But all Kim
    did was “coach” the subordinate.
    Id. Gogel “voiced concerns
    [to
    Jackson and Kim] about the decision being tremendously different than . . . what the
    facts indicated.”
    Id. The woman wound
    up leaving KMMG and explained, “The
    work environment was not favorable for women in management position, which had
    a significant impact on me.” ECF No. 115 at 123.
    At one point, Jackson told Gogel that she had a “responsibility” to support the
    “‘[p]atriarchal’ culture” at KMMG. ECF No. 101-1 at 18. Jackson also instructed
    Gogel that she had a “responsibility” to assist in identifying “how old people are
    from their résumés” because “it was important that . . . people not be older than the
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    people reporting to them.” ECF No. 117 at 65(258). Gogel felt at this point that
    KMMG had no interest or desire in “making sure that [it was] operating the way that
    was consistent with American laws.”
    Id. at 65(259).
    The list of discriminatory conduct goes on and on.
    Finally, though, Gogel had enough. She and other managers contributed to a
    document called the Report of Concerns, which catalogued a wide variety of
    problems they perceived at KMMG.
    Id. at 145-58.
    Among these problems, the
    Report of Concerns noted significant Title VII compliance issues, including, among
    others, many of the conditions discussed in this dissent, as well as “[d]irectives . . .
    to exclude females . . . from employment opportunities” and KMMG’s denial of
    “recommendations for employment for female salaried professionals based on their
    gender.” 8
    Id. at 154;
    see also ECF No. 122 at 100. The managers provided this
    document to Jackson for action. ECF No. 118 at 1.
    On October 14, 2010, Jackson held a meeting with Gogel to ask her questions
    about the Report of Concerns, which, among other things, summarized concerns
    Gogel had expressed to Jackson throughout 2009 and 2010. ECF No. 118 at 1; ECF
    No. 101-1 at 8-9. At the meeting, Gogel requested “reassurance that [her] comments
    would not lead to further retaliation.” ECF No. 118 at 1; see also ECF No. 101-1 at
    8
    The Report of Concerns also alleged numerous other violations of the law that are not
    relevant to this case. See ECF No. 117 at 152-57.
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    10. She then reiterated the concerns about sex discrimination she had previously
    expressed to Jackson. ECF No. 101-1 at 8-9. During the meeting, Gogel answered
    questions for roughly 45 minutes, until Jackson said he needed to go to another
    meeting, so they had to “wrap up.” ECF No. 118 at 1. Gogel said “there was a lot
    more, but nothing that [she] had not complained to [Jackson] about previously.”
    Id. Nevertheless, Gogel agreed
    to answer any questions Jackson may have had.
    Id. But Gogel did
    not hear back from Jackson.
    Id. I
    nstead, Tyler told her on
    November 3 that Jackson’s “investigation into the issues raised was closed, and
    regarding concerns that [Gogel] had raised, it was difficult to address issues that
    [Gogel] would not give information about.”
    Id. Gogel found this
    response
    “remarkable,” since Jackson had ended the October 14 meeting and Gogel had
    agreed to answer any further questions he had.
    Id. She commented to
    Jackson that
    “[b]eing questioned about complaints by one of the individuals implicated . . . is, at
    best, poor investigative practices, but at worst, and for [Gogel], very intimidating.”
    Id. Finally, after nearly
    three years of witnessing “other women experiencing
    significant damage to their careers and [seeing] the same thing coming for [her]self,
    and [she] couldn’t protect them and [she] couldn’t protect [herself], and the people
    that [she] reported to either could not or would not protect [them],” Gogel decided
    she had to seek assistance from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
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    ECF No. 117 at 52(208). So on November 10, 2010, Gogel filed a complaint of
    discrimination with the EEOC.
    Id. at 137.
    Among other things, she alleged she had
    been discriminated against “based on [her] sex (female).”
    Id. Gogel, who had
    worked in human resources at other companies for seventeen
    uneventful years before joining KMMG, see
    id. at 110,
    explained her feelings on
    filing the charge: “I never thought I would have to do something like that . . . . I
    had done everything within the rules and guidelines of everything I knew and
    everything that I had ever been taught, as well as the policies of the company I
    worked for. And I was sitting there completing an EEOC charge.”
    Id. at 39(153).
    The EEOC received the complaint on November 18, 2010.
    Id. at 137.
    Later,
    during the course of this litigation, KMMG’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness acknowledged
    that employees with a “manager role in HR” have a right to file their own EEOC
    charges. ECF No. 115 at 52(201). Nevertheless, she asserted that “[i]t’s beyond my
    belief that someone in those positions would file a charge.”
    Id. Returning to the
    events as they unfolded, on November 23, 2010, instead of
    handling Gogel’s filing of the EEOC charge discreetly, Jackson spoke about Gogel’s
    EEOC complaint “in a very loud way” in the “open office environment.”
    Id. at 50(198-99).
        Not surprisingly, “so many” other KMMG employees overheard
    Jackson’s “comments and conversations regarding [Gogel’s] EEOC charge.”
    Id. 111
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    Among those who heard about Gogel’s EEOC charge as a result of Jackson’s
    behavior was Ledbetter. ECF No. 101-1 at 14; ECF No. 117 at 50(198-99).
    Ledbetter then asked Gogel about it and inquired whether Gogel had chosen an
    attorney yet.
    Id. Meanwhile, while Jackson
    was busy talking about Gogel’s EEOC complaint
    in front of anyone and everyone who would listen, on December 3, KMMG required
    Gogel to sign an agreement that, among other things, prohibited her from
    “discuss[ing] [her] EEOC charge or similar claims against [KMMG] with Team
    Members.” ECF No. 118 at 9. When Gogel asked for time for her lawyer to review
    the document, Jackson sent her home until she agreed to sign the document, which
    she ultimately did on December 6. ECF No. 117 at 53(210); ECF No. 115 at 41(157-
    58).
    Then, on December 10, 2010, Diana Ledbetter filed her own charge of
    discrimination against KMMG. ECF No. 120 at 134-35. Among other things,
    Ledbetter asserted in her charge that she had been “required to engage in conduct
    that males at my level have not been required to do.”
    Id. She provided examples,
    noting that she was made “to practice saying ‘welcome Chairman’ in front of male
    executives while holding flowers,” since she was required to perform this task when
    high-ranking male executives visited the plant; she was “forced to pour wine” for
    these same male executives; and she was “called a Geisha at work.”
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    to Ledbetter’s charge, “[s]ome male managers t[old] [her] they [were] sorry for what
    [she] ha[d] to do and other male managers laugh[ed] in [her] face.”
    Id. Ledbetter later explained
    that she “knew [Gogel] and [Tyler] were powerless
    to help [her], and . . . Jackson wasn’t helping [her] either.” ECF No. 101-2 at 3. So
    she concluded that “[t]he only choice [she] had . . . was to file a Charge with the
    EEOC.”
    Id. Ledbetter stated that
    Gogel “did not encourage [her] nor solicit [her]
    to get an attorney and sue the company or file an EEOC charge.”
    Id. at 3-4.
    Rather,
    Ledbetter insisted she “decided for [her]self” to file an EEOC charge. In fact,
    Ledbetter explained, she “had no intention of suing KMMG.”
    Id. at 4.
    Rather, she
    “just wanted KMMG to listen to [her] complaints . . . .”
    Id. On January 7,
    2011, after KMMG’s Christmas break, Jackson and Charlie
    Webb, a KMMG lawyer, met with Gogel. See ECF No. 117 at 66(261). They asked
    Gogel whether she had colluded with Ledbetter, and Gogel denied that she had done
    so.
    Id. They also asked
    her about a particular meeting she had had with Ledbetter
    and whether she had discussed suing KMMG at that time.
    Id. at 66(262).
    Gogel
    had notes from the meeting that showed that the discussion was not about lawsuits
    but rather concerned providing boxed lunches or different alternatives to allow
    KMMG employees to eat lunch while the cafeteria was shut down during the
    Christmas break.
    Id. According to Gogel,
    at the January 7 meeting, she “adequately
    explained everything [Jackson and Webb] were asking [her] about. And it was in
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    no way inappropriate.”
    Id. at 66(263).
    Nevertheless, at the end of the meeting,
    Webb asked Jackson, “‘What do you want to do?’ And [Jackson] said, ‘Well, just
    to be safe, why don’t we go ahead as planned.’”
    Id. So Gogel was
    escorted from
    the building and placed on administrative leave.
    Id. at 66(263-64).
    On January 19, 2011, Jackson—Gogel’s supervisor who, for the last nearly
    three years, had failed to take action against the sexism at KMMG and had retaliated
    against Gogel for continuing to seek a remedy for the situation—sent Gogel a letter
    terminating her employment. ECF No. 118 at 26-27. The letter said that “[b]ased
    on [KMMG’s] investigation, one could conclude that [Gogel] encouraged or even
    solicited the filing of [Ledbetter’s discrimination] charge.”
    Id. I
    t continued, “At the
    very least, there is an appearance of a conflict of interest sufficient to cause the
    Company to lose confidence in the loyalty and trust that is required by [Gogel’s]
    position.”
    Id. Notably, the letter
    did not state that Jackson or KMMG had actually
    concluded that Gogel “encouraged or even solicited the filing of [Ledbetter’s
    discrimination] charge.”
    Soon after, Ledbetter called Williams, who had since assumed Gogel’s role
    after she was fired (he was later formally appointed in April 2011 to replace Gogel).
    Ledbetter asked him whether she was going to be fired. ECF No. 101-2 at 4; ECF
    No. 114 at 24(89); ECF No. 123 at 56(220)-57(224). Williams met Ledbetter on
    January 26, 2011, at a Wal-Mart to discuss her fear of retaliation. ECF No. 101-2 at
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    4-5; ECF No. 123 at 67(264), 142-44. He asked Ledbetter about her EEOC charge
    and “basically told [her] [she] needed to admit that [Tyler] and [Gogel] encouraged
    [her] to make the decision to file a Charge, and if [she] did so, then all would be
    forgiven against [her].” ECF No. 101-2 at 5. Ledbetter refused “because it was not
    true.”
    Id. Then Williams responded
    that Ledbetter “was young and impressionable
    and maybe [she] didn’t know what [she] was doing, which [Ledbetter] found
    insulting.”
    Id. He continued to
    pressure Ledbetter “to drop [her] [EEOC] Charge,
    and to say [she] made a mistake.”
    Id. Ledbetter refused, noting
    that no one at
    KMMG had told her that they would “help rectify [her] complaints.”
    Id. According to Williams’s
    own notes of his conversation with Ledbetter, he also
    told Ledbetter, “You got a hell of a way of showing you care. Most of us could
    come up [with] something better than what you did,” referring to her filing of an
    EEOC charge. ECF No. 123 at 70(273-74). When Ledbetter expressed concern that
    she had already faced retaliation at work, Williams responded, “Diana[,] come on[.]
    You filed vs. the Company. What do you expect? Do you think you are to be the
    golden child after doing something like that?”
    Id. at 70(276), 143.
    Then Williams
    asked, “Where’s the loyalty? You came to Kia without an automotive background.
    They worked with you to become an [assistant manager] in General Affairs in a very
    short time, and this is what you do!”
    Id. For emphasis, Williams
    repeated, “[A]ny
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    new [team member] would be happy to have reached the level you have in such a
    short time, and this is what you do.”
    Id. at 71(278), 143.
    Meanwhile, after Gogel’s termination, Gogel filed a new charge with the
    EEOC on February 8, 2011. ECF No. 118 at 28. It alleged that KMMG “retaliated
    against [her] due to [her] opposition to acts made unlawful by Title VII.”
    Id. I
    n 2012, Ledbetter again sought to be transferred out of General Affairs. ECF
    No. 101-2 at 6. Jackson and Latesa Bailey, then the Head of Department for Human
    Resources, “[e]ssentially . . . told [her] if [she] dropped [her] EEOC Charge, then
    [she] would have a better chance of being transferred, so [she] withdrew [her] EEOC
    Charge.”
    Id. After she did
    that, on October 12, 2012, Jackson told her that she could
    be transferred out of General Affairs only by applying for and being selected for an
    opening for an assistant-manager position, but, of course, there were no openings.
    Id. Ledbetter said that
    “[t]he entire time [her] EEOC Charge was pending, [she] was
    the ‘black sheep’ at KMMG. [She] was encouraged by management to withdraw
    [her] Charge. [She] withdrew [her] Charge to get back in good favor with the
    company, and hopefully receive the transfer [she] had been requesting.”
    Id. Finally, nine months
    later, in June 2013, when she still had not received the transfer she had
    sought since she was hired in 2008, Ledbetter resigned from KMMG.
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    II.
    I begin my analysis by assuming, for the purposes of this section only, that
    Jackson fired Gogel because he truly believed she had solicited Ledbetter to file an
    EEOC charge. Even with that assumption, under our binding case law, summary
    judgment should not have been granted. That is so because an issue of material fact
    exists over whether, on this particular record, Gogel’s alleged solicitation of
    Ledbetter nonetheless qualifies as protected activity.
    A. Under our binding precedent, we must apply a balancing test that,
    among other components, requires consideration of the legitimacy of
    the employer’s demands for loyalty
    As the Majority Opinion notes, our predecessor Court has held that an
    employee’s otherwise protected Title VII conduct may “so interfere[] with the
    performance of [her] job that it renders [her] ineffective in the position for which
    [she] was employed.” Maj. Op. at 29 (quoting Rosser v. Laborers’ Int’l Union of N.
    Am., Local No. 438, 
    616 F.2d 221
    , 223 (5th Cir. 1980)). In that case, the conduct no
    longer qualifies as protected. See
    id. But contrary to
    the Majority Opinion’s suggestion, see Maj. Op. at 41–42, this
    quotation from Rosser does not state a standalone test in and of itself. Even Rosser
    suggests that to determine the point at which opposition conduct crosses the Rosser
    threshold, we must engage in a balancing of sorts. See
    id. (“We believe that
    on
    balance, this is just such an instance.”).
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    And so it is not surprising that we expressly identified the proper
    considerations for balancing more than thirty years ago in 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    .
    There, we explained that we determine when otherwise-protected conduct becomes
    unreasonable in the eyes of Title VII (and therefore unprotected) by “balancing the
    purpose of [Title VII] and the need to protect individuals asserting their rights
    thereunder against an employer’s legitimate demands for loyalty, cooperation and a
    generally productive work environment.”
    Id. So it is
    Rollins that governs the
    determination of when an employee’s otherwise-protected Title VII conduct
    becomes unprotected.
    The Majority Opinion tries to avoid this awkward fact by claiming that the
    Rollins test pertains to only otherwise-protected Title VII conduct that “does not
    interfere with an employee’s job duties [but] is nonetheless so disruptive that it does
    not qualify for protection.” Maj. Op. at 35. Not so. The Rollins balancing test
    applies whenever an employer asserts that otherwise-protected Title VII conduct has
    become unprotected—regardless of the reason. Rollins itself, as well as other case
    law, makes this clear.
    First, by its terms, the Rollins balancing test governs all cases where a court
    must determine whether “the manner in which an employee expresses her opposition
    to an allegedly discriminatory employment practice” is 
    “reasonable.” 868 F.2d at 401
    . Advising another employee of her right under Title VII to file an EEOC
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    charge—even if the employee giving the advice is a human-resources employee—
    is a “manner in which an employee expresses her opposition to an allegedly
    discriminatory practice.” That is, after all, why it is called opposition conduct. So
    when an employer raises a question about whether a human-resources employee’s
    activity in that regard remains protected, the answer is necessarily dictated by the
    Rollins test.
    Second, as I noted in the last paragraph, under Rollins, only “reasonable”
    otherwise-protected Title VII conduct remains 
    protected. 868 F.2d at 401
    . And
    according to Rollins, “reasonable” conduct is “protected conduct [that is not] so
    disruptive or inappropriate as to fall outside [Title VII’s] protection.”
    Id. (citing, among other
    cases, 
    Payne, 654 F.2d at 1142
    ). Based on Rollins’s citation of Payne
    for that proposition, we know that the Rollins Court included activity that “so
    interferes with the performance of [the employee’s] job that it renders [the
    employee] ineffective in the position for which [the employee] was employed,”
    
    Payne, 654 F.2d at 1142
    , within the meaning of conduct that is overly “disruptive or
    inappropriate,” 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    .        In other words, the Rollins Court
    understood that the Rollins balancing test applies to conduct that the employer claims
    interfered enough with the employee’s duties that it made the employee ineffective
    in her position.
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    Third, Rollins tells us in yet another way that its balancing test applies equally
    to employees whose otherwise-protected activities are unreasonably disruptive and
    employees whose otherwise-protected activities may interfere with their job duties:
    Rollins observes that “in applying [the Rollins] balancing test, our approach is
    consistent with those of our sister circuits which have addressed the 
    issue.” 868 F.2d at 401
    . Rollins then cites, among other cases, Jones v. Flagship International, 
    793 F.2d 714
    , 728 (5th Cir. 1986), cert. denied, 
    479 U.S. 1065
    (1987), as having
    “addressed the issue” and applied a similar balancing test to resolve it.
    As the Majority Opinion notes, see Maj. Op. at 32–33, the “issue” in Jones
    was whether the actions of the plaintiff there, in soliciting another employee to file
    a discrimination charge against the employer and inviting a different employee to
    join in a lawsuit against the employer, so interfered with the plaintiff’s duties as legal
    counsel and manager of equal-opportunity-employment programs that it rendered
    her ineffective for the position. And Rollins views the conduct in Jones—otherwise-
    protected conduct that the employer claims so interferes with the employee’s job
    duties so as to render her ineffective for her position and thereby render the conduct
    unprotected—and the conduct in Rollins—otherwise-protected conduct that the
    employer claims is so disruptive as to become unprotected—as raising the same
    “issue” and therefore justifying the use of the same balancing approach. 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    .
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    Fourth, the Majority Opinion’s insistence that the isolated statement from
    Rosser it quotes represents some type of independent test for protected conduct is
    not even supported by the cases the Majority Opinion cites. I have already explained
    that even Rosser anticipates some type of “balanc[ing].” See 
    Rosser, 616 F.2d at 224
    . And Hamm v. Members of the Board of Regents of the State of Florida, 
    708 F.2d 647
    (11th Cir. 1983)—which the Majority Opinion also relies upon and which
    predates Rollins9—applies what Rollins later incorporated into its balancing test as
    the legitimacy consideration. See Maj. Op. at 30–31.
    In particular, in Hamm, we held that the employee had not engaged in
    protected activity only after we observed that no evidence “show[ed] that any of the
    defendants ever directed the plaintiff to overlook claims of discrimination by
    employees or to cease bringing such claims to their 
    attention.” 708 F.2d at 654
    . In
    other words, we accounted in our analysis not only for the employee’s job
    responsibilities but also for whether the employer’s demands of loyalty and
    9
    All three of the cases the Majority Opinion relies upon for the proposition that the Rollins
    test does not apply to otherwise-protected conduct that the employer asserts so interferes with the
    employee’s duties that it renders her ineffective for her position—that is, Rosser, Hamm, and
    Whatley v. Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority, 
    632 F.2d 1325
    (5th Cir. 1980)—were
    issued in the years before we decided Rollins. So of course they do not cite or rely on the Rollins
    balancing test. But any fair reading of Rollins shows that it represents the next step in our Circuit’s
    development of the law governing the determination of when otherwise-protected Title VII
    conduct loses that protected status. Indeed, since Rollins was issued, we have cited Rosser only
    once in a precedential case—in the now-vacated panel opinion in this case. But there, as in this
    dissent, we explained that Rosser is tempered by the Rollins balancing test.
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    cooperation were legitimate. And we did so by pointing to the absence of facts in
    Hamm that are so glaringly present here.
    To sum up, the Majority Opinion’s treatment of Rosser ignores the
    unmistakable development of protected-conduct analysis in the Eleventh Circuit. As
    a result, the Majority Opinion necessarily applies a flawed framework.
    Plus, we got it right when we developed the Rollins balancing test to determine
    whether otherwise-protected Title VII conduct of any kind becomes unprotected.
    Both the text of Title VII and the rule of law require consideration of, among other
    things, the legitimacy of the employer’s demands for loyalty.
    First, the text: Title VII, by its terms, makes it illegal for “an employer” to
    retaliate against an employee “because [she] has opposed any practice made an
    unlawful employment practice by [Title VII].” 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-3(a). The one
    thing that all opinions in this case agree on is that advising a colleague about filing
    a Title VII charge generally constitutes protected Title VII activity. The Majority
    Opinion concludes it does not here only because of Gogel’s duties.
    But Title VII was never meant to wholesale exclude from its protections under
    every circumstance human-resources employees who mention Title VII statutory
    remedies to other employees. We know this because, in enacting Title VII, Congress
    specifically exempted from its coverage six categories of employees. See 42 U.S.C.
    §§ 2000e-1(a), 2000e-2(e), 2000e-2(f), 2000e-1(b). Human-resources employees
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    are not among these. As we emphasized just a few months ago, “[w]here Congress
    explicitly enumerates certain exceptions to a general prohibition, additional
    exceptions are not to be implied, in the absence of evidence of a contrary legislative
    intent.” Pitch v. United States, 
    953 F.3d 1226
    , 1234 (11th Cir. 2020) (en banc)
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted). Here, the Majority Opinion points
    to no contrary legislative intent, and I am likewise aware of none. Yet the Majority
    Opinion nonetheless reads this unwritten exclusion into Title VII.
    Second, the rule of law: the Majority Opinion’s approach rewards bad-faith
    efforts to frustrate Title VII. It allows the most contumacious employer to fire its
    human-resources employees with impunity if they so much as make a fellow
    employee aware of Title VII’s remedies—no matter how outrageous and extended
    the employer’s bad-faith efforts to obstruct Title VII in the workplace. In contrast,
    an employee who brings a Title VII claim must have a “good faith, reasonable belief
    that the challenged practices violate Title VII.” 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 400
    . For good
    reason. The legitimacy of the law is at stake. We should not permit any party to use
    the courts to bless a one-sided interpretation of the law that allows those who refuse
    in bad faith to comply with the law’s requirements to benefit from their very refusal
    to comply. Because Rollins’s balancing test accounts for this very important interest
    in the rule of law, it—and not the rule the Majority Opinion adopts today—correctly
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    sets forth the appropriate considerations for determining whether otherwise-
    protected conduct remains so.
    B. The Majority Opinion does not conduct the balancing that Rollins
    requires
    Here, the Majority Opinion does none of what Rollins requires. It never even
    mentions the purpose of Title VII in its analysis. And it conveniently omits
    consideration of the numerous instances of Title VII opposition conduct that Gogel
    claimed to have participated in, so it fails to properly account for “the need to protect
    [Gogel’s] asserti[on] [of her Title VII] rights.” Compounding these errors, the
    Majority Opinion simply assumes that KMMG’s demands for loyalty in this case are
    “legitimate,” without evaluating them against Gogel’s claims that KMMG cavalierly
    and regularly violated Title VII and inevitably and repeatedly retaliated against those
    who complained.
    So in the end, the Majority Opinion’s “balancing” consists of only blindly
    believing KMMG’s demands for loyalty were “legitimate” in this case. Towards
    that end, the Majority Opinion takes into account only Gogel’s duties that required
    her to attempt “to internalize the resolution of any complaint and thereby avoid, if
    possible, the external resolution of that complaint, such as the filing of an EEOC
    charge and a subsequent lawsuit,” and KMMG’s assertion that Gogel advised
    Ledbetter to file an EEOC claim. See Maj. Op. at 44. With a “balance” stacked like
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    that in KMMG’s favor, it’s no wonder the Majority Opinion concludes that Gogel
    failed to show she engaged in protected activity.
    C. Actually applying the Rollins balancing test compels the conclusion
    that Gogel’s evidence establishes a material issue of fact concerning
    whether her activity constituted Title VII protected conduct in the
    circumstances here
    But if we consider what the Rollins balancing test actually requires, it is clear
    that a jury should have been permitted to determine whether Gogel’s alleged
    solicitation of Ledbetter was protected activity. Rollins’s balancing test finds its
    origins in Payne. See 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    (citing 
    Payne, 654 F.2d at 1145
    ).
    In Payne, our predecessor Court explained that “[w]hen the [employer] offers
    evidence that plaintiff’s conduct [that otherwise would have been protected conduct
    under Title VII] was [not protected activity under Title VII in the particular
    instance], and therefore provided the [employer] with a nondiscriminatory reason
    for its employment action, the plaintiff is entitled to an opportunity to show that his
    activities were reasonable under the circumstances and were warranted by the
    employer’s conduct.” 
    Payne, 654 F.2d at 1145
    . Indeed, unless the plaintiff’s
    otherwise-protected conduct is so clearly beyond the pale of protected activity that
    we can determine it is unprotected “as a matter of law,” “the fact finder must have
    an opportunity to hear evidence, to balance the competing considerations, and to
    reach a conclusion as to the reasonableness of the conduct.”
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    (emphasis added). In other words, when an employer alleges that an employee’s
    duties render otherwise-protected conduct unprotected, whether that is actually so
    on a given record is a question of material fact for the jury to resolve, unless the
    plaintiff’s conduct necessarily, as a matter of law, qualifies on the particular record
    as unprotected.
    The Rollins balancing-test factors tell us how to make that assessment. And
    when we apply those factors here, we cannot find that Gogel’s conduct, under the
    circumstances she alleges KMMG created in this case, is, as a matter of law,
    unprotected activity under Title VII. To conduct this analysis correctly, we begin
    by identifying the content of the three factors to be balanced: “the purpose of the
    statute,” “the need to protect individuals asserting their rights thereunder,” and the
    “employer’s legitimate demands for loyalty, cooperation and a generally productive
    work environment.” 
    Rollins, 868 F.2d at 401
    .
    With respect to “the purpose of the statute,” Gogel proceeds under Title VII’s
    retaliation prohibition. To understand Title VII’s antiretaliation provision, we must
    begin with Title VII’s antidiscrimination provision.        That provision “seeks a
    workplace where individuals are not discriminated against because of their . . .
    gender-based status.” Burlington 
    N., 548 U.S. at 63
    . Title VII’s antiretaliation
    provision, in turn, “seeks to secure that primary objective [of the antidiscrimination
    provision] by preventing an employer from interfering (through retaliation) with an
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    employee’s efforts to secure or advance enforcement of [Title VII’s] basic
    guarantees.”
    Id. So the Supreme
    Court has explained that Title VII’s antiretaliation
    provision’s “primary purpose” is “maintaining unfettered access to statutory
    remedial mechanisms.”
    Id. at 64
    (cleaned up). This “primary purpose” obviously
    becomes especially important where, as Gogel alleges here, an employer refuses to
    internally address an employee’s discrimination claims and even engages in
    affirmative acts to obstruct Title VII compliance.
    As for “the need to protect individuals asserting their [Title VII] rights,” Gogel
    exercised both her opposition and participation rights under Title VII. In Section I
    of this dissent, I have catalogued many ways Gogel opposed sex-based
    discriminatory conduct at KMMG, as well as the way Gogel participated in the
    EEOC process herself. In conducting the Rollins balancing, we must consider all
    this conduct. And we must account for it against the background of the Rollins test’s
    first consideration—the purpose of the statute.
    So we must look at Gogel’s efforts to secure “a workplace where individuals
    are not discriminated against because of their . . . gender-based status.” See
    Burlington 
    N., 548 U.S. at 63
    . When we do that, we see that for nearly three years,
    Gogel engaged in effort after effort through KMMG, and through Jackson in
    particular, to remedy rampant sex discrimination—all to worse than no avail.
    Instead of achieving parity for women, Gogel’s antidiscrimination efforts brought
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    her retaliation. Finally, after witnessing “other women experiencing significant
    damage to their careers and [seeing] the same thing coming for [her]self, and [she]
    couldn’t protect them and [she] couldn’t protect [herself], and the people that [she]
    reported to either could not or would not protect [them],” Gogel decided she had to
    seek assistance from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. ECF No.
    117 at 52(208). Put simply, Gogel filed an EEOC charge and, assuming KMMG’s
    version of the story, advised Ledbetter to do the same, only after KMMG fully
    frustrated Gogel’s nearly three years of efforts to obtain KMMG’s compliance with
    Title VII.
    We consider this evidence, too, when we evaluate “the employer’s legitimate
    demands for loyalty, cooperation and a generally productive work environment.” As
    the formulation of this factor suggests, it requires us to identify KMMG’s demands
    for loyalty, cooperation, and a generally productive work environment and assess
    whether, in the context of the facts Gogel alleges, they were “legitimate.”
    KMMG claims that it fired Gogel because “one could conclude that [she]
    encouraged or even solicited” Ledbetter to file her EEOC charge and that “there
    [was] an appearance of a conflict of interest sufficient to cause [KMMG] to lose
    confidence in the loyalty and trust that [was] required by [her] position.” ECF No.
    120 at 138. And as Jackson put it, “the role of the Team Relations Manager is not
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    to solicit, encourage other team members to file a lawsuit. It’s to encourage and
    problem solve to prevent team members from filing a lawsuit.”
    Id. at 70(273).
    It is certainly legitimate and reasonable for a company that seeks in good faith
    to comply with Title VII to expect its professionals who are responsible for assisting
    in the handling of Title VII complaints to avoid suggesting to employees that they
    file EEOC charges.
    But that, of course, assumes that the company makes a good-faith effort to
    comply with the law under Title VII. 10 It should go without saying that a company’s
    demands for “loyalty” and “cooperation” are not “legitimate” if the company uses
    its Title VII professionals to subvert the law and to quash legitimate discrimination
    complaints without remedying them. In that environment, a company’s demands for
    “loyalty” and “cooperation” must not be blindly deferred to. And nothing in our
    precedent suggests otherwise. Rather, as the Rollins test itself indicates, if a
    company, in bad faith, routinely frustrates its Title VII professional’s efforts to
    resolve other employees’ potentially legitimate discrimination complaints within the
    company, at some point it becomes reasonable for that Title VII professional, whose
    10
    The Majority Opinion finds this notion to be “grudging.” Maj. Op. at 38. It’s not clear
    to me what is “grudging” about the recognition that an employer legitimately expects loyalty from
    its employees when it comes to Title VII claims only when that employer does not act in bad faith
    and does not affirmatively try to obstruct Title VII compliance.
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    ultimate fidelity must be to the law, to direct a complaining employee to statutory
    avenues outside the company for possible relief.
    On this record, a jury should have had the opportunity to evaluate whether
    that point had come at the time that Gogel allegedly advised Ledbetter to file an
    EEOC charge. Otherwise, an employee who finds herself in this position has only
    one choice if she wants to keep her job: to continue assisting the company in running
    roughshod over its employees’ rights, in violation of the law. Under Payne and its
    progeny, that is plainly wrong.
    D. Because the Majority Opinion does not abrogate Payne, the Majority
    Opinion is bound by Payne’s holding that the determination of
    whether otherwise-protected conduct remains protected conduct on a
    given record presents an issue of fact, unless it is clear as a matter of
    law that the conduct is unprotected
    The Majority Opinion makes no secret that this part of our precedent gives it
    a headache; it tries everything in the book to rid itself of Payne and its clear meaning.
    But not one of the Majority Opinion’s efforts to render itself Payne-free succeeds.
    First, the Majority Opinion attempts to characterize the noted quotations from
    Payne as “arguably dicta.” See Maj. Op. at 41 & 41 n.20. As the Majority Opinion’s
    use of the modifier “arguably” begins to betray, though, the Payne quotations are
    nothing of the sort.
    In Payne, the employer, for the first time on appeal, asserted that the
    employee’s conduct was not “protected activity” under Title 
    VII. 654 F.2d at 1144
    .
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    Observing that it could consider the employer’s contention for the first time on
    appeal if the employer raised a question of law, the Old Fifth Circuit set about
    determining whether the question of whether an employee’s conduct fails to qualify
    as protected Title VII activity raises an issue of law or fact.
    Id. at 1145.
    The Court
    concluded that “[a]t least where conduct is not unprotected as a matter of law,” the
    issue raises a question of fact.
    Id. at 1146.
    For that reason, our predecessor Court
    held that it could not consider for the first time on appeal whether the employee’s
    conduct constituted protected activity.
    Id. Obviously, the holding
    that whether conduct is protected activity states a
    question of fact, not law, was critical to the Court’s holding that it could not address
    the employer’s argument brought for the first time on appeal. By definition, then, it
    was not dicta. See United States v. Kaley, 
    579 F.3d 1246
    , 1253 n.10 (11th Cir. 2009)
    (“[D]icta is defined as those portions of an opinion that are not necessary to deciding
    the case then before us.” (citation and internal quotation marks omitted)).
    Second, the Majority Opinion engages in a half-hearted effort to materially
    distinguish Payne from Gogel’s case. See Maj. Op. at 41. In support of this effort,
    in its entirety, the Majority Opinion asserts, “In contrast with Gogel, there was no
    contention in Payne that, had he been rehired, the plaintiff’s picketing activity while
    not employed with the company would so interfere with the performance of his job
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    duties as a seasonal laborer that it would render him ineffective in that position . . . .”
    Maj. Op. at 41.
    But Payne stands for only the proposition that whether an employee’s conduct
    is protected presents a question of fact unless, as a matter of law, it is clear that the
    employee’s conduct is not protected. To go that next step and actually determine
    whether an employee’s Title VII conduct, in the circumstances of a given case, is
    unprotected as a matter of law, we must employ Rollins’s balancing test (as I have
    done above). Because the Majority Opinion fails to do that, its effort to distinguish
    Payne is a lot like deciding the winner of a team relay race by looking at only the
    first leg of the race. Instead of applying the multipart Rollins balancing test that
    governs the protected-activity determination, the Majority Opinion’s doomed effort
    to distinguish Payne considers only KMMG’s demands for loyalty and just assumes
    they were “legitimate.” That analysis ignores the legitimacy inquiry, as well as
    Rollins’s other two factors—the purpose of Title VII and the employee’s interest in
    engaging in protected activity. The Majority Opinion cannot distinguish Payne by
    refusing to apply the governing Rollins test to Gogel’s evidence.
    Third, the Majority Opinion mischaracterizes my description of Payne’s rule
    as being “that summary judgment could never be warranted on the question whether
    particular conduct was protected.” Maj. Op. at 41. That simply isn’t so. Indeed, as
    I have noted multiple times in this dissent, it is clear that Payne authorizes summary
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    judgment when the employee’s otherwise-protected conduct, as a matter of law, does
    not qualify on a given record as protected Title VII 
    conduct. 654 F.2d at 1145-46
    .
    The problem for the Majority Opinion here is that that is not the case.
    Finally, apparently sensing that its other efforts to kill the Payne precedent
    cannot carry the day, the Majority Opinion resorts to the tired, old parade of
    horribles, claiming that I “argue[] that whenever a plaintiff HR manager with job
    responsibilities like Gogel’s abandons those responsibilities because she finds fault
    with the employer’s decisions and is then terminated, the balancing test . . . requires
    that the judicial decision-maker determine whether the manager should nonetheless
    be given a pass and allowed to remain in her job.” Maj. Op. at 38–39. This
    contention of the Majority Opinion’s is so misleading that it’s hard to know where
    to begin.
    So I will start where the Majority Opinion does. It calls the application of
    Payne’s rule and Rollins’s longstanding balancing test an “exception” I “craft[ed]”
    to the Majority Opinion’s rule and my “new test.” Maj. Op. at 38, 42. If that’s how
    the Majority Opinion wants to characterize strict application of our binding
    precedent as it is written, I’ll freely concede I’m guilty.
    Regardless of the nomenclature, my so-called “new test” and “craft[ed]”
    “exception” simply apply Rollins’s balancing test. And when doing so reveals that
    we cannot conclude that, under the particular circumstances of this case, Gogel’s
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    alleged conduct was unprotected as a matter of law, I merely recognize pursuant to
    Payne’s rule that the issue is one of fact that we must leave to the factfinder.
    By contrast, as I have explained, the Majority Opinion makes no effort
    whatsoever to actually apply Rollins’s considerations of whether the employer’s
    demands for loyalty are legitimate. Nor does it consider the employee’s interest in
    engaging in Title VII protected activity or the purposes of Title VII’s retaliation
    provision.
    Even the most attentive reader who engages in the deepest scouring of the
    Majority Opinion in search of these things comes up empty-handed. Instead,
    ignoring ample evidence to the contrary, the Majority Opinion just assumes that
    KMMG’s demands for loyalty were “legitimate” and ends its analysis there.
    Applying that “test,” it’s no wonder the Majority Opinion reaches the conclusion it
    does. But make no mistake about it—the Majority Opinion does not apply our
    precedent. Not only does the Majority Opinion’s one-factor “test” violate Rollins,
    it also transgresses the most basic principle of summary judgment: we view the
    evidence in the light most favorable to the non-moving party.
    Here, Gogel presented a mountain of evidence that, if believed, clearly
    demonstrates that KMMG acted in bad faith when it came to Title VII. To briefly
    review, according to that evidence, Jackson, KMMG’s chief administrative officer,
    instructed Gogel (a human-resources official who, according to KMMG, was
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    responsible for addressing Title VII issues) not to investigate reported violations of
    KMMG’s own Title VII policy; then, after she began to do so because Kim told her
    to investigate (but only the subordinate, not Kia’s president), Kim backtracked and
    told her to destroy all records of her investigation; and Jackson consistently directed
    Gogel to accept and even embrace KMMG’s regular violations of Title VII,
    including things like asking people’s ages, encouraging a “[p]atriarchal” hierarchy,
    hiding the supposedly “unattractive” female employees, and on and on.
    Despite all this evidence, the Majority Opinion’s legal analysis mentions not
    a single word about it. Instead, the Majority Opinion completely ignores the
    evidence and simply chooses to credit KMMG’s claim that its demands for loyalty,
    under the circumstances, were “legitimate.” Perhaps that is because it is impossible
    to conclude, as a matter of law, that KMMG’s demands for loyalty, under the
    circumstances, were “legitimate,” if we credit Gogel’s evidence of KMMG’s bad
    faith, as we must under the summary-judgment standard.
    Pouring more rain on the Majority Opinion’s parade of horribles is the fact
    that our own precedent shows that there is nothing unmanageable about actually
    applying the Rollins balancing-test components. As I have noted, Hamm, which the
    Majority Opinion relies on to suggest that we do not consider the legitimacy of the
    employer’s demands for loyalty, see Maj. Op. at 30–31, shows that, in fact, we do,
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    and we have—even since before Rollins neatly bundled the balancing considerations
    into its test.
    Nearly forty years have passed since Hamm. And in that time, it does not
    appear that we have had a single case (other than this one)—precedential or not—
    where a human-resources employee attempted to demonstrate that her otherwise-
    protected Title VII conduct survived Rollins’s balancing test on summary judgment
    because of significant evidence that the employer acted in bad faith and flouted its
    Title VII responsibilities. That readily demonstrates, contrary to the Majority
    Opinion’s argument, see Maj. Op. at 38–39, that adhering to the Rollins balancing
    test does not result in a free-for-all for human-resources employees where they will
    necessarily be able to avoid summary judgment and go to trial. Rather, when faced
    with an employer’s demands for loyalty, a human-resources employee who engages
    in otherwise-protected conduct may survive summary judgment only by presenting
    sufficient evidence to create a material issue of fact over whether the employer’s
    demands for loyalty were legitimate. And as Hamm demonstrates, that can be done
    if the evidence, construed in the employee’s favor, shows that the employer
    exercised bad faith in applying its Title VII obligations and actively worked to
    circumvent the law’s protections.
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    E. The Majority Opinion’s refusal to apply Rollins and Payne rewards
    and emboldens employers who, in bad faith, routinely obstruct Title
    VII compliance
    Here, the Majority Opinion never actually conducts the balancing that Rollins
    requires. So it incorrectly fails to recognize Payne’s requirement that a jury must
    determine whether, on this record, Gogel engaged in protected activity when she
    allegedly advised Ledbetter of her right to file an EEOC charge. As a result, the
    Majority Opinion further aids KMMG in skirting the boundaries of Title VII yet
    again.
    Worse yet, the Majority Opinion’s new rule essentially ensures that Gogel and
    thousands of human-resources personnel like her must forgo the protections of Title
    VII if they dare to mention Title VII’s statutory remedies to other employees—no
    matter how much bad faith their employers may engage in when it comes to Title
    VII compliance.
    Payne, Rollins, and their progeny understood the problems inherent in the
    Majority Opinion’s one-factor test. That’s why they imposed a balancing test that
    accounts for the purpose of Title VII, the employee’s interests in exercising her Title
    VII rights, and the employer’s legitimate interests in loyalty and that defers to the
    factfinder in all but the few cases where this balancing concludes, as a matter of law,
    that the employee’s activities were not protected. In reaching a contrary conclusion
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    today, the Majority Opinion forsakes Title VII and our binding precedent. I cannot
    agree.
    III.
    Not only does the Majority Opinion fail to follow our substantive precedent
    on Title VII, it also ignores Gogel’s actual claim. Indeed, even if we assume that a
    human-resources employee’s advice to another employee about her Title VII options
    could never constitute protected Title VII conduct on any record, this section
    demonstrates that Gogel submitted sufficient evidence that, when viewed in the light
    most favorable to her as the non-moving party, establishes a genuine issue of
    material fact concerning whether KMMG’s stated reason for firing Gogel was
    pretextual.
    As I have mentioned, the Majority Opinion fails to analyze Gogel’s actual
    retaliation claim. In fact, the Majority Opinion admits that in its analysis of Gogel’s
    alleged retaliation claim, it does not account for Gogel’s opposition conduct and
    instead considers only her participation conduct in the form of filing her November
    10, 2010, EEOC charge. See Maj. Op at 28 n.18 (“Our dissenting colleague . . .
    faults us for limiting ourselves to consideration of Gogel’s filing of the first EEOC
    Charge and for failing to consider whether one could infer that Kia fired Gogel
    because of her prior complaints concerning perceived mistreatment of herself and
    others.”). But Gogel’s Title VII retaliation claim is based on the premise that
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    KMMG retaliated against her for both her opposition conduct and her filing of an
    EEOC charge. Gogel’s complaint and her briefing in the district court and here
    plainly show that.11
    Yet despite Gogel’s clear and repeated assertions that she based her retaliation
    claim on both participation and opposition conduct, the Majority Opinion insists that
    Gogel alleged KMMG retaliated against her solely because she filed her November
    10, 2010, EEOC charge. See Maj. Op. at 28 n.18. Not acknowledging and analyzing
    11
    First, Gogel’s EEOC retaliation charge asserted that she believed she had been “retaliated
    against due to [her] opposition to acts made unlawful by Title VII . . . .” ECF No. 118 at 27
    (emphasis added). Second, when she filed her complaint in this case, Gogel alleged in her
    retaliation claim that KMMG’s “retaliation against [Gogel] was on account of her participation in
    the EEOC charge filing process and because of her opposition to discrimination . . . .” ECF No.
    19 at ¶ 63 (emphasis added). Third, Gogel continued to press her retaliation claim based on both
    participation and opposition conduct when, in the district court, she opposed KMMG’s motion for
    summary judgment. In her brief in opposition, for example, Gogel argued both that she “[e]ngaged
    in [p]rotected [e]xpression [u]nder Title VII [w]hen [s]he [f]iled an EEOC [c]harge . . .” and that
    she “[e]ngaged in [p]rotected [e]xpression [u]nder Title VII [w]hen [s]he . . . [m]ade [o]ther
    [c]omplaints on [b]ehalf of [o]thers . . . .” ECF No. 101 at 6, 7 (emphasis added); see also
    id. at 10-12
    (discussing Gogel’s complaints to Jackson about not being made a head of department), 13-
    17 (discussing some of Gogel’s numerous complaints to Jackson about discriminatory conduct
    against Gogel and others), 21 (describing her “protected activities” as “informal complaints of
    discrimination to Jackson and the filing [of] an EEOC Charge”) (emphasis added). And fourth,
    Gogel maintained this position in her en banc briefing, again contending that “she engaged in
    protected conduct when she: internally complained in September and October 2010 about
    personally suffering from discrimination in the workplace [as] well as opposing the continued
    discriminatory treatment of other employees; filed a Charge of Discrimination with the EEOC . .
    . .” Gogel’s Initial Br. at 24 (emphasis added). She further specified in her brief what she meant
    by her opposition conduct with a summary of numerous complaints she had made to Jackson about
    discrimination against her and others at KMMG. See
    id. at 4-11.
    Referring to her filing of an
    EEOC charge after her history of opposing KMMG’s sexist treatment, Gogel explained her
    argument as follows: “[a] jury could find her protected speech was the straw that broke the camel’s
    back . . . .”
    Id. at 25.
    In other words, Gogel argued that her termination was retaliation for a long
    list of opposition activity Gogel engaged in, capped off by her participation conduct in filing her
    EEOC charge.
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    the retaliation claim that Gogel actually brought 12 certainly makes it easier for the
    Majority Opinion to find that summary judgment was appropriate here. But the
    Majority Opinion’s wishful interpretation of Gogel’s retaliation claim does not
    comport with reality. And analyzing Gogel’s actual retaliation claim requires
    vacatur of summary judgment.
    Beginning with Gogel’s prima facie case, as I have noted, Gogel alleged that
    she engaged in Title VII-protected opposition and participation activity. I have
    previously described some of that activity in Section 
    I, supra
    . For convenience, I
    briefly summarize that evidence: Gogel asserted that during her nearly three-year
    tenure with KMMG, she opposed discriminatory practices against her when she
    complained to Jackson that KMMG and Jackson discriminated against her on the
    basis of sex by refusing to elevate her to head of department (even though it elevated
    all similarly situated men), by downwardly adjusting her evaluation, by excluding
    her from meetings her duties required she attend, by prohibiting her from speaking
    at meetings (where her male subordinates were permitted to talk), by prohibiting her
    from investigating complaints of discrimination (when doing so was part of her job),
    12
    In the second part of footnote 18 of the Majority Opinion, in three sentences, the Majority
    Opinion alternatively dismisses the notion that Gogel’s opposition conduct would change the
    analysis. That alternative “analysis” improperly assumes that KMMG actually believed that Gogel
    had solicited Ledbetter to sue it. See Maj. Op. at 28 n.18. But as this section of the dissent shows,
    that is the very claim over which a material dispute of fact exists.
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    and by otherwise rendering her impotent to address discrimination at KMMG
    (though her duties anticipated that she do so).
    Gogel further explained that she consistently opposed discriminatory
    practices against others at KMMG by continually reporting them to Jackson. As
    Gogel described things, she complained time after time to Jackson about the
    pervasive acts of sex discrimination against women at KMMG, some of which I’ve
    summarized in Section 
    I, supra
    .
    Only after trying to achieve internal resolution with KMMG of her personal
    complaints and the complaints of others for nearly three years and seeing no interest
    on KMMG’s part in abiding by Title VII did Gogel determine that her only
    alternative was to file a charge with the EEOC.         All this conduct—both the
    opposition and the participation activity—qualifies under Title VII as protected
    activity. See 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-3(a).
    Turning to the second component of a prima facie case of retaliation (the
    employer took adverse action against the plaintiff), for Gogel’s efforts to remedy
    allegedly rampant discrimination at KMMG, Gogel endured Jackson’s repeated
    denials of her requests to be elevated to head of department, Jackson’s decisions to
    exclude her from meetings, Jackson’s instruction to her that she not speak at
    meetings, Jackson’s suggestion that she try to reobtain her former employment,
    Jackson’s open announcement that she had filed an EEOC claim, Jackson’s
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    placement of Gogel on administrative leave, and ultimately, Jackson’s termination
    of Gogel’s employment at KMMG. This evidence satisfies the requirement that
    Gogel demonstrate KMMG took adverse action against her. 13
    As for the third prong of Gogel’s prima facie case, Gogel identified sufficient
    evidence to establish a causal connection between her protected activity and her
    termination. Gogel alleged that, even before KMMG terminated her, throughout her
    employment, KMMG changed the terms of her employment in response to her
    complaints. For example, Jackson’s comment to Gogel about getting her “old job”
    back came only after Gogel complained about her treatment and about the treatment
    of other women at KMMG. Similarly, though Jackson told her in 2009 that she
    would be promoted to head of department for Team Relations in 2010, she wasn’t
    after she complained that only men were promoted. And she was suspended and
    fired after Jackson loudly complained about her EEOC charge in the office. A
    13
    Remarkably, to combat the premise that KMMG retaliated against Gogel for filing her
    EEOC charge, the Majority Opinion suggests repeatedly that KMMG gave Gogel a “discretionary
    bonus” on December 22, 2010. See Maj. Op. at 12, 26, 43. The December 22, 2010, bonus was
    KMMG’s Christmas bonus, which it gave to all employees in a predetermined amount, based on
    the employee’s position and months of service. See ECF No. 117 at 142. Indeed, the letter
    accompanying the bonus stated, “In support of recognizing the results all team members have
    achieved on ‘One Team, One System,’ I am proud to announce a Success Sharing Award to all
    team members actively employed with KMMG through December 28, 2010.”
    Id. I
    suppose
    KMMG could have withheld that bonus, but then Gogel would have been the only employee not
    to receive it. And that would have provided yet another basis for Gogel’s retaliation claim.
    Contrary to the Majority Opinion’s suggestion, KMMG’s decision to refrain from retaliating
    against Gogel in this one instance—by giving her a bonus it was literally giving every other
    employee—does not somehow prove that KMMG did not retaliate against Gogel. Nor does it
    otherwise absolve KMMG of its retaliatory actions, viewed in the light most favorable to Gogel.
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    reasonable jury could infer from this evidence that Jackson was angry about Gogel’s
    opposition and participation activity.
    Then, just six weeks after Jackson learned of her EEOC charge, on January 7,
    2011, Jackson suspended Gogel. 14 He ultimately fired her less than two weeks later,
    on January 19, 2011. The totality of these facts creates a reasonable inference that
    “the protected activity and the adverse actions were not wholly unrelated,” which is
    all that the first step of the McDonnell Douglas framework requires. Jones v. Gulf
    Coast Health Care of Del., LLC, 
    854 F.3d 1261
    , 1271 (11th Cir. 2017) (citation and
    internal quotation marks omitted).
    When we look at all these components of a prima facie case of retaliation, we
    must conclude that Gogel satisfied her burden to make such a showing.
    So the burden of production then shifted to KMMG to come forward with a
    legitimate, nondiscriminatory reason for taking adverse action against Gogel.
    KMMG asserted that it suspended and fired Gogel because, as Jackson stated in his
    letter ending Gogel’s employment, “Based on our investigation, one could conclude
    that [she] encouraged or even solicited [Ledbetter’s] filing of [her EEOC] charge.
    At the very least, there is an appearance of a conflict of interest sufficient to cause
    the Company to lose confidence in the loyalty and trust that is required by [Gogel’s]
    14
    And considering that KMMG closed its facility from December 23, 2010, through
    January 3, 2011, ECF No. 85 at 6, the period between Jackson’s learning of Gogel’s claim and
    Jackson’s suspension of Gogel spanned only just over four work weeks.
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    position.” ECF No. 118 at 26. Assuming for purposes of this section (as the
    Majority Opinion (incorrectly) concludes) that the actions that Jackson attributed to
    Gogel in his dismissal letter could never qualify as protected conduct by a human-
    resources employee, Jackson’s statement satisfied KMMG’s burden of production.
    As a result, Gogel was entitled to receive “a full and fair opportunity to
    demonstrate that [KMMG’s] proffered reason was merely a pretext to mask
    [retaliation].” Bryant v. Jones, 
    575 F.3d 1281
    , 1308 (11th Cir. 2009). Here, in
    support of her assertion of pretext, Gogel submitted evidence that a reasonable jury
    could find suggests that Jackson and KMMG did not truly believe that Gogel had
    “solicited” Ledbetter to file her EEOC charge when it fired Gogel for that stated
    reason.
    Besides the evidence I mentioned above that betrays Jackson’s anger with
    Gogel for opposing discriminatory practices at KMMG and for filing her own EEOC
    charge, Jackson claimed that he conducted an investigation into whether Gogel had
    advised Ledbetter to file an EEOC charge, based on statements Williams made to
    him on January 4, 2011.       ECF No. 85 at 6.         But the entirety of Jackson’s
    “investigation” consisted of reviewing statements taken from Williams and Paul
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    Grimes on January 5, 2011. See ECF No. 120 at 73(285-87); ECF No. 119 at 98;
    ECF No. 123 at 153.15
    Before I address this point further, I want to be clear: contrary to the Majority
    Opinion’s contention, my point is not that Jackson conducted an investigation that
    was not sufficiently “thorough.” See Maj. Op. at 55 n.25. Rather, for the reasons I
    describe below, a reasonable jury could conclude on this record that Jackson never
    set out to and did not actually conduct a bona fide investigation at all but rather went
    through the motions to provide cover for his real reason for firing Gogel: her Title
    VII opposition and participation conduct. Another matter of appearances.
    At the time of the “investigation,” more than ten people other than Williams
    and Grimes worked in Team Relations—not to mention the numerous other KMMG
    employees who worked outside Team Relations. See ECF No. 117 at 21(83-84).
    Yet Jackson and KMMG spoke with none of them to check on Williams’s and
    Grimes’s allegations.
    15
    In his deposition, Jackson also claimed that he based his decision on “e-mails” and
    “checking . . . with [Gogel’s] computer and [Ledbetter’s] computer.” ECF No. 120 at 73(287).
    He provided no further elaboration. And curiously, among the numerous exhibits KMMG filed in
    support of its motion for summary judgment—including Jackson’s deposition and some selected
    exhibits to his deposition—it did not file any emails or documentation from Gogel’s or Ledbetter’s
    computer that in any way suggested that Gogel had ever discussed EEOC charges with Ledbetter,
    let alone advised her to file an EEOC charge. Because we must view the record in the light most
    favorable to Gogel, and because Jackson provides no indication of what was allegedly in these
    mysterious and missing emails, and because I cannot review supposed emails and computer
    records that do not appear to exist, I do not consider them.
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    In the run-of-the-mine case, this fact might not be unusual. But it turns out
    that Jackson was “close” with Grimes and Williams. ECF No. 119 at 30(115-16);
    Id. at 99.
    In fact, Jackson socialized outside work with Williams and Grimes, who
    themselves shared an apartment from 2008 until after Gogel was fired.
    Id. at 30(115- 16), 99, 25(96).
    Not only that, but after he fired Gogel, Jackson made Williams the
    Acting Manager of Team Relations, then the Manager of Team Relations, and
    ultimately, the Head of Department of Team Relations. He similarly elevated
    Grimes to Manager of Team Relations when he made Williams the Head of
    Department. Plus, Williams testified that he was always concerned about being fired
    by Jackson and did not want to make Jackson mad because “[t]hat wouldn’t be
    healthy.” ECF No. 123 at 47(183).
    Williams’s suggestion that Jackson could be vengeful when angry further
    raises questions about Jackson’s true motivation in terminating Gogel. But aside
    from that, in short, Williams and Grimes had many reasons to go along with Jackson
    and any scheme he might have cooked up.
    And Williams’s related actions also show that he was not in pursuit of the
    truth. Williams was the one who met with Ledbetter soon after Gogel’s dismissal to
    try to get Ledbetter to falsely implicate Gogel in encouraging Ledbetter to file her
    EEOC charge. When Ledbetter refused, Williams essentially bullied her, calling
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    Ledbetter disloyal to KMMG, in a bid to convince Ledbetter to drop her EEOC
    charge.
    Yet other reasons that involve Williams could cause a reasonable jury to find
    Jackson’s story suspect. Williams told Jackson in January 2011 that Ledbetter had
    confided in him several times, starting as early as the beginning of November 2010,
    that Gogel was the “ringleader” for Gogel’s, Tyler’s, and Ledbetter’s decision to
    take legal action, that Gogel and Tyler frequently met with and encouraged Ledbetter
    to sue KMMG, and the three coordinated by using the same lawyer. 16 Maj. Op. at
    13–14; see also ECF No. 123 at 151 ¶¶ 28, 29;
    id. at 153.
    Williams also testified
    that, as a member of Team Relations, one of his responsibilities was to help team
    members “stay out of legal situations and try to resolve problems prior to them
    getting that bad.”
    Id. at 34(132).
    Indeed, as the Majority Opinion emphasizes,
    Williams was very insistent about this: he said, “I mean you don’t go to a doctor to
    get leukemia.      We’re the people that’s [sic] supposed to keep lawsuits from
    happening.” Maj. Op. at 46.
    But despite Ledbetter’s supposed repeated confessions throughout November
    and December to Williams that Gogel and Tyler were soliciting her to sue the
    16
    These statements come from Williams’s deposition, which was taken on August 20,
    2015, four-and-a-half years after the purported events Williams described. See ECF No. 123 at
    50(193-95), 52(202). But when we look at the notes Webb took of the January 5, 2011, meeting
    with Williams, they do not state that Williams reported that Ledbetter had told him that Gogel was
    the leader or a catalyst for Ledbetter’s decision to file an EEOC charge. See ECF No. 123 at 153.
    Rather, they say that Williams “felt that [Gogel] was the catalyst for the trio of charges.”
    Id. 147
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    company, ECF No. 123 at 151 ¶¶ 28, 29;
    id. at 153,
    and despite his own supposed
    observations of Gogel, Tyler, and Ledbetter inexplicably meeting frequently during
    this same period, Williams ignored his self-stated job responsibilities for two
    months—until January 2011—before filling his “close” friend Jackson in on the
    news.
    A reasonable jury could easily conclude that Williams’s version of events—
    one where Williams ignored the very job responsibilities that Gogel was fired for
    supposedly ignoring—was suspect. The story becomes all the more so when we
    consider Williams’s and Grimes’s relationship with Jackson and their subsequent
    promotions.
    Besides all this, when Jackson asked Gogel whether she had colluded with
    Ledbetter, Gogel expressly denied having done so. In fact, she provided documents
    from the meetings where she was accused of having conspired with Ledbetter,
    showing that she met with Ledbetter for work-related reasons. And Gogel offered
    innocent explanations for all the conduct that Jackson asked her about. If Jackson
    had any interest in performing a bona fide investigation, there were several other
    members of Team Relations that Jackson apparently did not socialize with whom he
    could have asked about Gogel. He didn’t.
    Instead, claiming to rely on his buddies’ stories, Jackson decided to go ahead
    and put Gogel on administrative leave pending her dismissal twelve days later.
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    Notably, in firing her, Jackson—who holds a juris doctor legal degree, ECF No. 120
    at 6(17)—painstakingly wrote that “one could conclude that [Gogel] encouraged or
    even solicited the filing of [Ledbetter’s discrimination] charge.” Perhaps tellingly,
    he did not state that he or KMMG actually believed that Gogel had engaged in such
    activity. But “one could conclude” lots of things—including that “one’s” buddies
    wanted promotions enough to help Jackson get rid of Gogel.
    Strangely enough, Jackson also accused Gogel of failing to investigate claims
    of discrimination that were made to her.       For example, on the form entitled
    Employer’s Information on Discharge for Failure to Obey Orders, Rules or
    Instructions or Failure to Perform the Duties for Which Hired, Jackson answered the
    question, “Explain in detail the effect the employee’s actions had on your business,”
    with, in its entirety, “Exposed KMMG to potential liability by failing to properly
    investigate claims and failure to properly record efforts to investigate/resolve
    problems.” ECF No. 120 at 141.
    A reasonable jury might not miss the irony in Jackson’s accusation, given that
    the record (when viewed in the light most favorable to Gogel) shows that Gogel took
    numerous reports of discrimination to Jackson seeking remedy, and he is the one
    who did nothing, or worse. Indeed, Jackson went so far as to forbid Gogel from
    investigating the alleged relationship between Kia’s president and a subordinate,
    even though such a relationship would violate KMMG’s antiharassment provision.
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    So a jury could conclude that, conveniently for Jackson and KMMG, they got rid of
    an employee who complained about discrimination while simultaneously creating a
    scapegoat for their own refusal to address the company’s rampant and
    institutionalized sex discrimination.
    In short, there is enough evidence on this record from which a reasonable jury
    could find that when Jackson claimed to fire Gogel because she allegedly instructed
    Ledbetter to file an EEOC charge against KMMG, he did not really believe that she
    had done so. Instead, a reasonable jury could conclude that Jackson, Williams, and
    Grimes worked together to doctor up the charge as a pretext for retaliating against
    Gogel for exercising her Title VII participation and opposition rights. Because the
    record supports that reasonable inference, we may not, as the Majority Opinion does,
    ignore it and just take Jackson’s story at face value.
    IV.
    Either way we look at it—under our binding case law or under the Majority
    Opinion’s retcon interpretation of it—this record, when viewed in the light most
    favorable to Gogel, establishes a material issue of fact that requires denial of
    summary judgment. For these reasons, I respectfully dissent.
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Document Info

Docket Number: 16-16850

Filed Date: 7/29/2020

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 7/30/2020

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