E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump ( 2022 )


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  •      20-3977 (L)
    E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump
    1                          UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    2                              FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT
    3                                         _______________
    4                                        August Term 2021
    5              (Argued: December 3, 2021               Decided: September 27, 2022)
    6                        Docket Nos. 20-3977-cv (L), 20-3978-cv (Con)
    7                                         _______________
    8                                         E. JEAN CARROLL,
    9                                         Plaintiff-Appellee,
    10                                                 v.
    11                       DONALD J. TRUMP, IN HIS PERSONAL CAPACITY,
    12                                        Defendant-Appellant,
    13                                 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    14                                         Movant-Appellant.
    15                                         _______________
    16   Before: CALABRESI, CHIN, and NARDINI, Circuit Judges.
    17                                         _______________
    18          Defendant-Appellant Donald J. Trump and Movant-Appellant the United
    19   States of America appeal from a judgment of the United States District Court for
    20   the Southern District of New York (Kaplan, J.) denying their motion to substitute
    21   the United States in this action pursuant to the Westfall Act of 1988. On appeal,
    22   appellants argue that substitution is warranted because the President of the United
    23   States is a covered government employee under the Westfall Act, and because
    24   Trump had acted within the scope of his employment when he made the allegedly
    1   defamatory statements denying Plaintiff-Appellee E. Jean Carroll’s 2019 sexual
    2   assault allegations.
    3          We REVERSE the District Court’s holding that the President of the United
    4   States is not an employee of the government under the Westfall Act. And we
    5   VACATE the District Court’s judgment that Trump did not act within the scope
    6   of his employment, and CERTIFY that question to the D.C. Court of Appeals.
    7         Judge Calabresi concurs in a separate opinion, and Judge Chin dissents in a
    8   separate opinion.
    9   _______________
    10   MARK R. FREEMAN, Appellate Staff Civil Division, U.S. Department of Justice
    11   (Mark B. Stern and Joshua M. Salzman, Appellate Staff Civil Division, U.S.
    12   Department of Justice, on the brief), for Jennifer B. Dickey, Acting Assistant
    13   Attorney General, for Movant-Appellant United States of America.
    14   ALINA HABBA, Habba Madaio & Associates LLP, Bedminster, NJ (Marc Kasowitz,
    15   Christine A. Montenegro, Paul J. Burgo, Kasowitz Benson Torres LLP, New York,
    16   NY, on the brief), for Defendant-Appellant Donald J. Trump.
    17   JOSHUA A. MATZ, Kaplan Hecker & Fink, LLP, New York, NY (Roberta A.
    18   Kaplan, Raymond P. Tolentino, Kaplan Hecker & Fink, LLP, New York, NY,
    19   Leah Litman, Ann Arbor, MI, on the brief), for Plaintiff-Appellee E. Jean Carroll.
    20   Zoe Salzman, Emery Celli Brinckerhoff Abady Ward & Maazel LLP, New York,
    21   NY, for Amici Curiae The Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN); Time’s Up
    22   Foundation; Legal Momentum, The Women’s Legal Defense and Education Fund; The
    23   National Alliance to End Sexual Violence; The National Center for Victims of Crime
    24   (NCVC); The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault; and Safe Horizon.
    25                                     _______________
    26   GUIDO CALABRESI, Circuit Judge:
    27         When an employee of the federal government is sued for tortious conduct
    28   that happens on the job, the employee is generally entitled to absolute immunity
    2
    1   from personal liability under the Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort
    2   Compensation Act of 1988 (the “Westfall Act”). See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2679
    (b)(1). But in
    3   order to claim this immunity, the employees must prove two things: (1) that they
    4   are qualifying government officials for purposes of the Westfall Act, and (2) that
    5   the tortious conduct they purportedly engaged in was within the scope of their
    6   employment. If these requirements are met, the United States is substituted for
    7   the employee as the sole defendant in the tort suit. And from there, the action
    8   proceeds against the United States in accordance with the rules set forth in the
    9   Federal Tort Claims Act (“FTCA”). See 
    id.
     §§ 2679(d)(1), 1346(b)(1).
    10         This case requires us to determine whether the President of the United States
    11   is eligible for this form of absolute immunity. In 2019, Plaintiff-Appellee E. Jean
    12   Carroll publicly accused Defendant-Appellant Donald J. Trump of sexual assault
    13   and rape, which, on her account, occurred at some point in the mid-1990s. At the
    14   time these allegations were made, Trump was President of the United States. In
    15   response to the accusations, Trump made a series of public statements, which not
    16   only denied the allegations but also questioned Carroll’s credibility and assertedly
    17   demeaned her personal appearance.
    3
    1         Carroll then filed a tort suit against Trump in New York State Supreme
    2   Court, alleging that his public statements were defamatory under New York law.
    3   After some proceedings, the Attorney General of the United States, through his
    4   delegate, intervened in the suit and certified that Trump was entitled to
    5   substitution under the Westfall Act because he was a government employee acting
    6   within the scope of his employment when he made the public statements at issue.
    7   On the basis of this certification, the case was removed to the United States District
    8   Court for the Southern District of New York.
    9         In due course, the District Court (Kaplan, J.) denied the motion to substitute
    10   the United States for Trump. It held that the President is not an employee of the
    11   government as that term is used in the Westfall Act. In the alternative, it held that
    12   even if the President were a Westfall Act covered employee, Trump had not acted
    13   within the scope of his employment when he allegedly defamed Carroll. For these
    14   reasons, the District Court denied the substitution motion. The Government and
    15   Trump appealed.
    16         We reverse the District Court’s holding that the President of the United
    17   States is not an employee of the government under the Westfall Act. And we
    4
    1   vacate the District Court’s judgment that Trump did not act within the scope of
    2   his employment, and certify that question to the D.C. Court of Appeals.
    3
    4                                             I
    5                                            A
    6         According to the complaint, the events precipitating this lawsuit occurred
    7   one evening nearly thirty years ago (between the fall of 1995 and spring of 1996)
    8   when Carroll unexpectedly encountered Trump at a department store in
    9   Manhattan. During this time, Carroll had worked as an advice columnist who
    10   regularly appeared on television. As a result, Trump immediately recognized and
    11   greeted Carroll. He then requested her assistance in picking out a gift for another
    12   woman who was not with him that evening. Carroll agreed to help, and
    13   accordingly, the two began to look for an appropriate gift. Their search led them
    14   to the lingerie section of the department store.
    15         At the lingerie section, Trump picked out a bodysuit and proceeded to
    16   engage in banter with Carroll about trying it on. This exchange continued for a
    17   short while until, suddenly, Trump “maneuvered” her to a nearby dressing room
    18   under the pretext of making her try on the bodysuit. Once inside the dressing
    5
    1   room, still according to the complaint, Trump sexually assaulted and raped
    2   Carroll. According to Carroll, the assault lasted for several minutes, before she
    3   was able to repel Trump and flee the department store. Immediately following
    4   these events, Carroll purportedly told two close friends of the assault. But she did
    5   not otherwise disclose the incident, nor did she report it to law enforcement
    6   authorities.
    7                                            B
    8         Some 24 years later, Carroll decided to go public with her allegations. For
    9   several years, she had been working on a book about 21 men who had left ugly
    10   marks on her life. One of the men featured in the book was Trump. On June 21,
    11   2019, before the book’s official release, New York Magazine published a pre-
    12   publication excerpt which detailed Carroll’s sexual assault allegations against
    13   Trump.
    14         At the time of this disclosure, Trump was President of the United States. In
    15   response to the allegations, Trump issued a series of public statements, which this
    16   action claims were defamatory.
    17         First, hours after Carroll’s allegations had been released, Trump issued the
    18   following statement denying the incident:
    6
    1               Statement from President Donald J. Trump:
    2               Regarding the ‘story’ by E. Jean Carroll, claiming she once
    3               encountered me at Bergdorf Goodman 23 years ago. I’ve never met
    4               this person in my life. She is trying to sell a new book—that should
    5               indicate her motivation. It should be sold in the fiction section.
    6
    7               Shame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get
    8               publicity for themselves, or sell a book, or carry out a political
    9               agenda—like Julie Swetnick who falsely accused Justice Brett
    10               Kavanaugh. It’s just as bad for people to believe it, particularly when
    11               there is zero evidence. Worse still for a dying publication to try to
    12               prop itself up by peddling fake news—it’s an epidemic.
    13
    14               Ms. Carroll & New York Magazine: No pictures? No surveillance?
    15               No video? No reports? No sales attendants around?? I would like to
    16               thank Bergdorf Goodman for confirming they have no video footage
    17               of any such incident, because it never happened.
    18
    19               False accusations diminish the severity of real assault. All should
    20               condemn false accusations and any actual assault in the strongest
    21               possible terms.
    22
    23               If anyone has information that the Democratic Party is working with
    24               Ms. Carroll or New York Magazine, please notify us as soon as
    25               possible. The world should know what’s really going on. It is a
    26               disgrace and people should pay dearly for such false accusations.
    27
    28   Special App’x at 12-13.
    29
    30         Second, on June 22, 2019, as he was departing for Camp David, Trump again
    31   publicly denied the allegations during a press gaggle on the White House lawn:
    7
    1   Trump: I have no idea who this woman is. This is a woman who has
    2   also accused other men of things, as you know. It is a totally false
    3   accusation. I think she was married—as I read; I have no idea who
    4   she is—but she was married to a, actually, nice guy, Johnson—a
    5   newscaster.
    6
    7   Reporter: You were in a photograph with her.
    8
    9   Trump: Standing with [my] coat on in a line—give me a break—with
    10   my back to the camera. I have no idea who she is. What she did is—
    11   it’s terrible, what’s going on. So it’s a total false accusation and I don’t
    12   know anything about her. And she’s made this charge against others.
    13
    14   And, you know, people have to be careful because they’re playing
    15   with very dangerous territory. And when they do that—and it’s
    16   happening more and more. When you look at what happened to
    17   Justice Kavanaugh and you look at what’s happening to others, you
    18   can’t do that for the sake of publicity.
    19
    20   New York Magazine is a failing magazine. It’s ready to go out of
    21   business, from what I hear. They’ll do anything they can. But this
    22   was about many men, and I was one of the many men that she wrote
    23   about. It’s a totally false accusation. I have absolutely no idea who
    24   she is. There’s some picture where we’re shaking hands. It looks like
    25   at some kind of event. I have my coat on. I have my wife standing
    26   next to me. And I didn’t know her husband, but he was a newscaster.
    27   But I have no idea who she is—none whatsoever.
    28
    29   It’s a false accusation and it’s a disgrace that a magazine like New
    30   York—which is one of the reasons it’s failing. People don’t read it
    31   anymore, so they’re trying to get readership by using me. It’s not
    32   good.
    33
    8
    1                   You know, there were cases that the mainstream media didn’t pick
    2                   up. And I don’t know if you’ve seen them. And they were put on
    3                   Fox. But there were numerous cases where women were paid money
    4                   to say bad things about me. You can’t do that. You can’t do that. And
    5                   those women did wrong things—that women were actually paid
    6                   money to say bad things about me.
    7
    8                   But here’s a case, it’s an absolute disgrace that she’s allowed to do
    9                   that.
    10
    11   Id. at 13-14.
    12
    13          Finally, on June 24, 2019, the online newspaper publication, The Hill, released
    14   an interview with Trump, in which he stated: “I’ll say it with great respect:
    15   Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never
    16   happened, OK?” Id. at 14.
    17                                               C
    18          In November 2019, Carroll filed the present lawsuit in New York State
    19   Supreme Court against Trump in his individual capacity, alleging that his public
    20   statements denying her sexual assault allegations were defamatory under New
    21   York law. In September 2020, Director James G. Touhey, Jr. of the Torts Branch of
    22   the U.S. Department of Justice’s Civil Division intervened in the suit and certified
    23   on behalf of the Attorney General that Trump had acted “within the scope of his
    9
    1   office as President of the United States” when he made the public statements
    2   denying Carroll’s allegations.     Based on this certification, the Government
    3   removed the case to Federal District Court. See Osborn v. Haley, 
    549 U.S. 225
    , 242
    4   (2007) (holding that the Attorney General’s certification is “dispositive” for
    5   purposes of removal). And shortly thereafter, the Government moved, pursuant
    6   to the Westfall Act, to substitute the United States as the sole defendant in this
    7   case.
    8           The District Court denied the Government’s motion to substitute and did so
    9   on two independent grounds. Carroll v. Trump, 
    498 F. Supp. 3d 422
     (S.D.N.Y. 2020).
    10           First, it held that substitution was not warranted because, at the time the
    11   allegedly defamatory statements had been made, Trump was President of the
    12   United States, and the President is not an “employee of the Government” for
    13   purposes of the Westfall Act. 
    Id. at 443
    .
    14           The Westfall Act, the District Court explained, incorporates the FTCA’s
    15   definitional provision at 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    , which, as relevant here, defines an
    16   “[e]mployee of the Government” to “include[] . . . officers or employees” of “the
    17   executive departments[.]” Under this statutory definition, the District Court
    18   reasoned that while the President is “the ‘head’ of many federal departments,
    10
    1   agencies, and organizations,” the President is not an employee of any particular
    2   federal agency or department. Carroll, 498 F. Supp. 3d at 437. As a result, he does
    3   not fit within the statutory definition of employee. Id. In addition to this textual
    4   analysis of the statute, the District Court relied on relevant legislative history and
    5   on the Constitutional avoidance canon articulated in Franklin v. Massachusetts, 505
    
    6 U.S. 788
     (1992), in support of its interpretation of the statute. 
    Id. at 438-42
    . For
    7   these reasons, it concluded that the Westfall Act’s provisions did not apply to the
    8   President.
    9         Second, and in the alternative, the District Court held that even if the
    10   President were an employee of the government for purposes of the Westfall Act,
    11   substitution of the United States as defendant was still inappropriate because
    12   Trump had not acted within the scope of his employment when he publicly denied
    13   Carroll’s sexual assault allegations.    Carroll, 498 F. Supp. 3d at 457.       After
    14   identifying either New York or District of Columbia respondeat superior law as
    15   governing this inquiry, the District Court, discerning no conflict between the laws
    16   of the two jurisdictions, declined to resolve the choice of law issue. Id. at 446-47.
    17   The District Court then held that, under either New York or District law, Trump
    18   had exceeded the scope of his employment. Id. at 447-57. Therefore, even if the
    11
    1   President were a covered employee under the statute, Trump could not be
    2   substituted under the Westfall Act.
    3          This meant that Carroll’s suit could proceed against Trump in his personal
    4   capacity. The Government and Trump timely appealed the denial of substitution. 1
    5   See Osborn, 
    549 U.S. at 238
     (holding that denial of substitution under the Westfall
    6   Act is, pursuant to the collateral order doctrine, “a reviewable final decision within
    7   the compass of 
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
    ”).
    8                                               II
    9                                               A
    10          A short history of the Westfall Act is useful to understanding the issues in
    11   this case.
    12          In Westfall v. Erwin, 
    484 U.S. 292
     (1988), 2 the Supreme Court held that federal
    13   employees were entitled to absolute immunity against individual tort liability only
    14   if their conduct occurred “within the scope of their official duties and the conduct
    1 For convenience sake, we refer to the Government and Trump collectively under the
    latter’s name.
    2Unless otherwise noted, case text quotations omit internal citations, footnotes, quotation
    marks, and previous alterations.
    12
    1   [was] discretionary in nature,” 
    id. at 297-98
     (emphasis in original). In adopting a
    2   “discretionary in nature” requirement, for immunity, the Court attempted to strike
    3   a balance between the following policy considerations: a) placing an unfortunate
    4   risk of individual liability on government employees and b) compensating those
    5   who “had the misfortune to be injured by a federal official.” 
    Id. at 295-97
    . Under
    6   Westfall’s test, the Court explained that “official immunity would have to be
    7   determined on a case-by-case basis, according to whether the contribution to
    8   effective government in particular contexts from granting immunity outweighs
    9   the potential harm to individual citizens.” United States v. Smith, 
    499 U.S. 160
    , 163
    10   (1991) (discussing Westfall, 
    484 U.S. at 299
    ).
    11         Apparently troubled by the personal tort liability the Westfall decision was
    12   likely to impose on federal employees, but not wishing to leave injured victims
    13   uncompensated, Congress responded swiftly and enacted the Westfall Act. See
    14   
    Pub. L. No. 100-694, § 2
    , 
    102 Stat. 4563
    , 4563-64 (1988) (stating the purpose of the
    15   law was to reverse the effects of the Westfall decision); see also Smith, 
    499 U.S. at
    163
    16   (“Congress took this action in response to our ruling in Westfall v. Erwin[.]”).
    17         The Westfall Act was a monumental act of legislation. Among other things,
    18   it eliminated Westfall’s “discretionary in nature” requirement, 
    484 U.S. at 297-98
    ,
    13
    1   and replaced it with a single factor test for absolute federal employee immunity,
    2   see Smith, 
    499 U.S. at 163
    .       Under the Westfall Act, qualifying government
    3   employees were entitled to absolute immunity from personal tort liability for any
    4   conduct occurring within the scope of their employment—even if the tortious
    5   conduct was not a discretionary function of their employment. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 6
       2679(b)(1). 3
    7          But in enacting this law, Congress did not intend to preclude tort victims
    8   from redress as a result of torts committed by government employees. Quite the
    9   contrary, Congress sought to shift such liability costs away from the individual
    10   employees and place them on their employer: the United States. And it did so by
    11   waiving sovereign immunity for certain categories of torts, and by using the
    12   common law doctrine of respondeat superior—which generally made private
    13   employers liable for the torts of their employees.
    3 Until the Westfall Act, the President was “entitled to absolute immunity from damages
    liability predicated on his official acts.” Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 
    457 U.S. 731
    , 749 (1982).
    “Official acts,” however, did not include all conduct within the scope of employment.
    Our holding today is that the Westfall Act extended absolute immunity to the President
    also for non-official acts as long as they are within the scope of employment.
    14
    1            Thus, when a federal employee is now sued for tortious conduct committed
    2   in the course of employment, the Westfall Act confers immunity by substituting
    3   the defendant with the United States, and, in turn, making the action against the
    4   United States under the FTCA the exclusive means of recovery for the injured
    5   individual in tort, see 
    28 U.S.C. § 2679
    (b)(1) (“The remedy against the United States
    6   provided by sections 1346(b) and 2672 . . . is exclusive of any other civil action . . .
    7   for money damages[.]”). Substitution of the United States as defendant is, in other
    8   words, the procedural vehicle by which the Westfall Act confers absolute
    9   immunity on federal government officials.
    10            In order for substitution to take place, the Westfall Act first “empowers the
    11   Attorney General to certify that the employee was acting within the scope of his
    12   office or employment at the time of the incident out of which the claim arose.” See
    13   Gutierrez de Martinez v. Lamagno, 
    515 U.S. 417
    , 420 (1995) (quoting 28 U.S.C.
    14   § 2679(d)(1)). 4 “Upon certification, the employee is dismissed from the action and
    4   Specifically, the Westfall Act provides:
    15
    1   the United States is substituted as defendant.” Id. Although the “certification
    2   constitutes prima facie evidence that the employee was acting within the scope of
    3   his employment,” Wuterich v. Murtha, 
    562 F.3d 375
    , 381 (D.C. Cir. 2009), the merits
    4   of the certification are judicially reviewable, see Lamagno, 
    515 U.S. at 420
     (holding
    5   that the “scope-of-employment certification is reviewable in court”). If the district
    6   court concludes that certification is appropriate, the individual employee has been
    7   appropriately dismissed from the tort action and the case proceeds against the
    8   United States in accordance with the FTCA. Conversely, if “the District Court
    9   determines that the employee in fact, and not simply as alleged by the plaintiff,
    10   engaged in conduct beyond the scope of his employment,” Osborn, 
    549 U.S. at
    231
    11   (emphasis added), the substitution motion must be denied, and the suit will
    12   proceed against the government employee in a personal capacity.
    Upon certification by the Attorney General that the defendant
    employee was acting within the scope of his office or employment at
    the time of the incident out of which the claim arose, any civil action
    or proceeding commenced upon such claim in a United States district
    court shall be deemed an action against the United States under the
    provisions of this title and all references thereto, and the United States
    shall be substituted as the party defendant.
    
    28 U.S.C. § 2679
    (d)(1).
    16
    1          Substitution in Westfall Act cases generally raises no serious issues because,
    2   once it occurs, “such cases unfold much as cases do against other employers who
    3   concede respondeat superior liability.”    Lamagno, 
    515 U.S. at 420
    .        As Justice
    4   Ginsburg aptly noted, however, the issue of substitution presents a totally
    5   different and frequently troubling issue in those cases where “an exception to the
    6   FTCA shields the United States from suit, [since] the plaintiff may be left without
    7   a tort action against any party.” Id.; see Smith, 
    499 U.S. at 165
     (holding that the
    8   Westfall Act “immunizes Government employees from suit even when an FTCA
    9   exception precludes recovery against the Government”). In such situations, the
    10   Westfall Act results in the victims of wrongful action by a government employee
    11   being left to bear the loss. 5
    12          And that is what lies at the core of this case. The FTCA, expressly, does not
    13   waive the sovereign immunity of the United States for the tort of defamation, see
    5Under the common law doctrine of respondeat superior, the employee generally is liable,
    along with her employer, for torts committed within the scope of her employment.
    Hence, situations like the instant case, where a court’s reading of scope of employment
    may totally preclude the tort victim from suing either the employee or the employer,
    rarely arose.
    17
    1   
    28 U.S.C. § 2680
    (h). So substituting the United States in place of Trump means the
    2   failure of Carroll’s defamation lawsuit.
    3                                                 B
    4          In disputing whether substitution is appropriate here, the parties raise two
    5   issues on appeal: (1) whether the President of the United States is an employee of
    6   the federal government for purposes of the Westfall Act and (2) whether Trump
    7   had acted within the scope of his employment when he made the public
    8   statements denying Carroll’s sexual assault allegations.
    9          The parties all agree that the second issue presented (scope of employment)
    10   is governed by the District of Columbia’s respondeat superior law. 6                  As we
    11   understand it, the District’s law regarding vicarious liability is sufficiently unclear
    12   that we are unable to predict with any confidence how the District’s highest
    6 The District Court identified a potential choice of law issue on whether to apply New
    York’s or the District’s respondeat superior law, see Richards v. United States, 
    369 U.S. 1
    , 11
    (1962) (holding that the FTCA “requires application of the whole law of the State where
    the act or omission occurred”). But it declined to resolve the issue after concluding that
    there was “no true conflict” between the jurisdictions’ laws. Carroll, 498 F. Supp. 3d at
    446-47. Although we have our doubts regarding that conclusion, we need not reach the
    choice of law issue in light of the parties’ agreement that the District’s respondeat superior
    law governs the scope of employment inquiry. Oral Arg. Tr. at 31 (“The first premise is
    that under D.C. law, which we are happy to accept for purposes of this appeal . . . .”).
    18
    1   court—the D.C. Court of Appeals—would resolve this issue.             We, therefore,
    2   conclude that it would be advisable to certify that question to the D.C. Court of
    3   Appeals. See 
    D.C. Code Ann. § 11-723
    (a) (West 2001) (“The District of Columbia
    4   Court of Appeals may answer questions of law certified to it by . . . a Court of
    5   Appeals of the United States[.]”).
    6         We are, however, sensitive to the fact that the District’s certification statute
    7   appears to favor certification of legal issues “which may be determinative of the
    8   cause pending” before the “certifying court.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis added); see Penn Mut.
    9   Life Ins. Co. v. Abramson, 
    530 A.2d 1202
    , 1206 (D.C. 1987) (“[I]f in our view the
    10   question of local law which perplexed the certifying court would in no way be
    11   determinative of the cause within the meaning of § 11-723(a), we might refuse to
    12   answer the question.”).
    13         In light of that local policy, we find it prudent to answer the antecedent
    14   question: Is the President of the United States an employee of the federal
    15   government under the Westfall Act? See 
    28 U.S.C. §§ 2671
    , 2679. This ground
    16   presents a possible independent basis for affirmance of the District Court’s
    17   judgment below. Accordingly, if the President is not a qualifying government
    18   employee as a matter of federal law, any answer from the D.C. Court of Appeals
    19
    1   regarding scope of employment would not be determinative. In other words, we
    2   must first hold that the Westfall Act in fact applies to the President in order for the
    3   scope of employment inquiry to be determinative in this case.
    4         We therefore turn to that federal question.
    5                                             III
    6                                             A
    7         The Westfall Act provides immunity against individual tort liability to “any
    8   employee of the Government while acting within the scope of his office or
    9   employment.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2679
    (b)(1). Does the President of the United States fall
    10   within the meaning of “employee of the Government” as that term is used in the
    11   Westfall Act? We review this question of statutory interpretation de novo. See
    12   Williams v. United States, 
    71 F.3d 502
    , 504 (5th Cir. 1995).
    13         Like any other statutory interpretation case, our inquiry begins with the text
    14   of the statute. See Hui v. Castaneda, 
    559 U.S. 799
    , 805 (2010). The parties agree that
    15   the Westfall Act’s reference to “employee of the Government” incorporates the
    16   FTCA’s definitional provision at 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    . And “[w]hen a statute includes
    17   an explicit definition, we must follow that definition, even if it varies from a term’s
    18   ordinary meaning.” Tanzin v. Tanvir, 
    141 S. Ct. 486
    , 490 (2020).
    20
    1         We thus turn to § 2671, which sets forth the following definition:
    2               Employee of the government includes (1) officers or employees of any
    3               federal agency, members of the military or naval forces of the United
    4               States, members of the National Guard while engaged in training or
    5               duty . . . and persons acting on behalf of a federal agency in an official
    6               capacity, temporarily or permanently in the service of the United
    7               States, whether with or without compensation, and (2) any officer or
    8               employee of a Federal public defender organization, except when
    9               such officer or employee performs professional services in the course
    10               of providing representation under section 3006A of title 18.
    11   
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    .
    12         The parties do not dispute that, under § 2671, only the first employee
    13   category—that is, “officers or employees of any federal agency”—may be of
    14   potential relevance to the President. The provision, in turn, elaborates on the term
    15   “federal agency” by stating that it: “includes the executive departments, the
    16   judicial and legislative branches, the military departments, independent
    17   establishments of the United States, and corporations primarily acting as
    18   instrumentalities or agencies of the United States, but does not include any
    21
    1   contractor with the United States.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    . The one category of covered
    2   employees under § 2671 that may apply to the President is, therefore, “officers or
    3   employees” of “the executive departments,” id.
    4         Given this statutory definition, Carroll principally argues that the President
    5   does not come within the scope of the FTCA and the Westfall Act because he is not
    6   an officer or employee of any “executive departments.” Appellee Br. at 20. The
    7   term “executive departments,” Carroll contends, has been understood since the
    8   Nation’s founding to refer to “Cabinet-level agencies, and perhaps a small number
    9   of additional freestanding components within the executive branch, but not to the
    10   executive branch in its entirety.” Id. In view of this longstanding meaning of the
    11   term “executive departments,” she asserts that when Congress enacted the FTCA,
    12   it necessarily incorporated that term’s historical connotation. Id. at 21 (citing
    13   Morissette v. United States, 
    342 U.S. 246
    , 263 (1952) (“[W]here Congress borrows
    14   terms of art in which are accumulated the legal tradition and meaning of centuries
    15   of practice, it presumably knows and adopts the cluster of ideas that were attached
    16   to each borrowed word[.]”)). And since the President is not an officer or employee
    17   of any “subsidiary components of the executive branch,” Carroll contends that he
    22
    1   is not an employee of the federal government under § 2671. Id. at 27. The learned
    2   District Court reached the same conclusion. Carroll, 498 F. Supp. 3d at 437.
    3         We, however, disagree. Even if we were to accept these arguments on their
    4   own terms, Carroll’s interpretive theory fails for it rests on the flawed assumption
    5   that § 2671 provides an exhaustive definition of covered government employees
    6   under the FTCA. Cf. Witt v. United States, 
    462 F.2d 1261
    , 1263 (2d Cir. 1972) (“This
    7   definition [
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    ] is not without boundaries, but quite clearly the
    8   statutory language was drafted to have an expansive reach.”). Put differently, the
    9   term “executive departments” would only control the interpretive analysis here,
    10   as Carroll argues, if it limits the definition of government employee rather than
    11   provide examples of who are covered by that term.
    12         And, given the plain language and structure of § 2671, we conclude that the
    13   better reading of the statute is that it simply sets forth an illustrative set of examples
    14   of those who qualify as covered government officials. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    .
    15         To begin with, § 2671 uses the term “includes” to describe the categories of
    16   employees who fall under the          statutory definition.”    Id. (“Employee of the
    17   government includes . . . .”). When used in such a context, this “word choice is
    18   significant because it makes clear that the examples enumerated in the text are
    23
    1   intended to be illustrative, not exhaustive.” Christopher v. SmithKline Beecham
    2   Corp., 
    567 U.S. 142
    , 162 (2012) (citing Burgess v. United States, 
    553 U.S. 124
    , 131 n.3
    3   (2008)). As the Supreme Court explained nearly a century ago in Groman v.
    4   Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 
    302 U.S. 82
     (1937), “[t]he terms ‘includes’ and
    5   ‘including’ when used in a definition . . . shall not be deemed to exclude other
    6   things otherwise within the meaning of the term defined,” 
    id. at 86
    . See also Federal
    7   Land Bank of St. Paul v. Bismarck Lumber Co., 
    314 U.S. 95
    , 100 (1941) (stating that the
    8   term “‘including’ is not one of all-embracing definition, but connotes simply an
    9   illustrative application of the general principle”). 7
    10         Significantly, Federal Courts of Appeals have applied this interpretive rule
    11   to the precise statutory language at issue, including recently the Seventh Circuit,
    12   which cogently noted: “§ 2671 begins with the word ‘includes,’ which ordinarily
    13   introduces exemplary, not exhaustive language . . . So, § 2671 does not necessarily
    14   contain every instance in which a person is an ‘employee of the Government.’”
    7The fact that this canon of construction had been identified and applied in Bismarck and
    Groman (decided in 1941 and 1937, respectively) makes it particularly probative of the
    original meaning of § 2671, as those cases were decided close in time to the FTCA’s
    enactment in 1946, see Bostock v. Clayton County, 
    140 S. Ct. 1731
    , 1738 (2020) (explaining
    that a statute should be interpreted “in accord with the ordinary public meaning of its
    terms at the time of its enactment”).
    24
    1   Talignani v. United States, 
    26 F.4th 379
    , 382 (7th Cir. 2022) (citing A. SCALIA & B.
    2   GARNER, READING LAW: THE INTERPRETATION OF LEGAL TEXTS 132-33 (2012)). And,
    3   long since, the Eighth Circuit in United States v. LePatourel, 
    571 F.2d 405
     (8th Cir.
    4   1978), similarly observed that, “Congress chose to define ‘employees of the
    5   government’ and ‘federal agency’ inclusively rather than exclusively,” 
    id. at 408
    .
    6   See also McNamara v. United States, 
    199 F. Supp. 879
    , 880-81 (D.D.C. 1961) (noting
    7   that § 2671 does not set forth an “exclusive definition”).
    8         The significance of the word “includes,” moreover, is underscored by the
    9   statutory context in which it appears. Specifically, while § 2671 uses the word
    10   “includes” to describe the terms “Federal agency” and “Employee of the
    11   government,” a different word—“means”—is used in describing a closely related
    12   part of the statutory provision:
    13                “Acting within the scope of his office or employment,” in the case of
    14   a            member of the military or naval forces of the United States or a
    15                member of the National Guard as defined in section 101(3) of title 32,
    16                means acting in line of duty.
    17   Id. (emphasis added).
    25
    1         This is, of course, telling because—in contrast to the expansive meaning
    2   generally ascribed to “includes”—the term “means,” as it has come to be
    3   understood, generally signifies the presence of “an exclusive definition.” Burgess,
    4   
    553 U.S. at
    131 n.3 (quoting Groman, 
    302 U.S. at 86
    ). Further, this canon of
    5   construction applies with special force here, for Congress chose to use both of these
    6   verbs in the same definitional provision, thereby underscoring the significance of
    7   this linguistic distinction.
    8                                            B
    9                                            1
    10         Because we conclude that the examples listed in § 2671 of the FTCA do not,
    11   per se, limit the definition of “Employee of the government,” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    , the
    12   focus of our inquiry must accordingly turn to the ordinary meaning of “employee”
    13   in 1946, which is when the FTCA was originally enacted, Legislative
    14   Reorganization Act of 1946, 
    Pub. L. No. 79-601, 60
     Stat. 812, 842-43. See Bostock,
    15   140 S. Ct. at 1738 (instructing courts to interpret statutes “in accord with the
    16   ordinary public meaning of [their] terms at the time of [their] enactment”).
    17         The term “employee” had roughly the same meaning in the mid-20th
    18   century as it does today. According to a leading dictionary of the time, an
    26
    1   “employee” was defined as “one who works for wages or salary in the service of
    2   an employer.” Employee, WEBSTER’S NEW INTERNATIONAL DICTIONARY OF THE
    3   ENGLISH LANGUAGE (2d ed. 1943); see Employee, BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY (3d ed.
    4   1944) (defining term as “a person in some official employment”); cf. Employee,
    5   BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY (11th ed. 2019) (“Someone who works in the service of
    6   another person (the employer) under an express or implied contract of hire[.]”). It
    7   would, therefore, seem that payment of consideration and formal service to an
    8   employer were the hallmarks of an employee relationship at the time of the
    9   FTCA’s enactment.
    10         In the original 1946 law it had enacted, Congress did not, however, make
    11   the payment of wages or a salary the dispositive criterion for whether an
    12   individual was a covered government employee under the FTCA. See Pub. L. No.
    13   79-601, 
    60 Stat. 812
    , 843 (1946). Rather, Congress went further, and included under
    14   the employee definition “persons acting on behalf of a Federal agency in an official
    15   capacity, temporarily or permanently . . . whether with or without compensation.”
    16   
    Id.
     (emphasis added). In this respect, we think that Congress intended to broaden
    17   the meaning of employee in § 2671, and extend its reach beyond the traditional
    18   limitations attached to the word in ordinary parlance. Id.; see Irvin M. Gottlieb,
    27
    1   The Federal Tort Claims Act–A Statutory Interpretation, 
    35 Geo. L.J. 1
    , 11-12 (1946)
    2   (“Section 402(b) defines Employee of the Government, giving broad scope to this
    3   phrase and including within its terms temporary and even uncompensated
    4   employees[.]”).
    5         We are, therefore, convinced that § 2671 lends itself to only one
    6   interpretation: The statute covers “all federal employees from personal liability
    7   without regard to agency affiliation or line of work.” Levin v. United States, 568
    
    8 U.S. 503
    , 509 (2013).
    9         It follows that the President of the United States fits comfortably within the
    10   statutory description’s plain language. For, as Trump points out in his brief, the
    11   President is a government employee in the most basic sense of the term: He
    12   renders service to his employer, the United States government, in exchange for a
    13   salary and other job-related benefits. Cf. United States v. Hatter, 
    532 U.S. 557
    , 563
    28
    1   (2001) (recognizing the President as a federal employee for purposes of a social
    2   security program). 8
    3                                               2
    4         Precedent and historical practice, together with the mischief the statute
    5   sought to remedy, reinforce this conclusion.
    6         To begin with, those of our sister circuits that have addressed § 2671 have
    7   likewise interpreted “employee” broadly, and held that the term applies to high
    8   ranking officials of the other branches of the federal government. See, e.g., Does 1-
    9   10 v. Haaland, 
    973 F.3d 591
    , 597-98 (6th Cir. 2020) (members of Congress are
    10   covered government employees); Operation Rescue Nat’l v. United States, 
    147 F.3d 11
       68, 70-71 (1st Cir. 1998) (same); Williams v. United States, 
    71 F.3d 502
    , 504-05 (5th
    8Unlike “employees” in the most conventional sense, the President cannot be fired from
    his job. But Presidents are still subject to other forms of control. The President “is
    subjected to constant scrutiny by the press” and “[v]igilant oversight by Congress.”
    Nixon, 
    457 U.S. at 757
    . Other checks “may include a desire to earn reelection, the need to
    maintain prestige as an element of Presidential influence, and a President’s traditional
    concern for his historical stature.” 
    Id.
     In this respect, the President is quite like these
    government officials who cannot be fired, but are subject to other forms of control and
    are plainly covered by the FTCA, as amended by the Westfall Act. These include
    members of Congress and judges. The dissent’s appropriate differentiation of the
    President from ordinary employees, while on point, is therefore unconvincing because it
    would exclude many government officials who are, instead, expressly covered by the
    Westfall Act.
    29
    1   Cir. 1995) (same); United States v. LePatourel, 
    571 F.2d 405
    , 408-10 (8th Cir. 1978)
    2   (federal judges are covered).
    3         Given these interpretations of the “employee” definition in the legislative
    4   and judicial branch contexts, it coheres to apply the same language to the
    5   President, see, e.g., Operation Rescue, 147 F.3d at 70-71 (stating in dictum that § 2671
    6   covers “all officers, up to the president”). And indeed, as Trump correctly notes
    7   in his brief, in previous cases where substitution of the President occurred, the
    8   applicability of the Westfall Act was not questioned. See, e.g., Saleh v. Bush, 848
    
    9 F.3d 880
    , 891 (9th Cir. 2017); Ali Jaber v. United States, 
    155 F. Supp. 3d 70
    , 73 n.1
    10   (D.D.C.), aff’d, 
    861 F.3d 241
     (D.C. Cir. 2016); Klayman v. Obama, 
    125 F. Supp. 3d 67
    ,
    11   82 (D.D.C. 2015); West v. Trump, No. 3:19-CV-2522-K-BH, 
    2020 WL 4721291
    , at *3
    12   n.6 (N.D. Tex. July 23, 2020).
    13         The legislative context behind the FTCA’s passage, moreover, lends further
    14   support for this interpretation. Specifically, the mischief that the FTCA purported
    15   to fix was the private claims bills procedure. Because of sovereign immunity, until
    16   the FTCA’s enactment in 1946, private citizens who were injured by tortious
    17   conduct at the hands of government employees were left without a judicial
    18   remedy against the federal government. See Feres v. United States, 
    340 U.S. 135
    ,
    30
    1   139-40 (1950) (detailing history of private claims bills). As a result, persons seeking
    2   compensation from the federal government regularly resorted to submitting
    3   private claims to their elected representatives—who then were responsible for
    4   drafting and pushing bills that would provide compensation to their injured
    5   constituents. See United States v. Muniz, 
    374 U.S. 150
    , 154 (1963) (“Private claim
    6   bills introduced in the Sixty-eighth through the Seventy-eighth Congresses
    7   averaged 2,000 or more per Congress, roughly 20% of which were enacted.”).
    8         For decades, this practice was widely criticized as being a costly
    9   administrative burden on the work of Congress.          See Alexander Holtzoff, The
    10   Handling of Tort Claims Against the Federal Government, 
    9 Law & Contemp. Probs. 11
       311, 311–12 (1942). And during the joint committee hearings that led to the FTCA’s
    12   enactment, various members of Congress expressed their collective displeasure at
    13   the private claims bills system, criticizing it as a poor use of time and resources, as
    14   well as an unjust remedy for injured victims. See, e.g., Legislative Reorganization
    15   Act: Hearings Before the Joint Comm. on the Org. of Congress, 79th Cong. 68-69 (1945)
    16   (remarks of Sen. Kefauver); 
    id. at 95
     (remarks of Rep. Wadsworth).
    17         The FTCA was the solution to this long-running problem. By waiving
    18   sovereign immunity for certain torts, it sought to delegate to the federal courts the
    31
    1   resolution of such claims brought by private citizens against government officials.
    2   See Muniz, 
    374 U.S. at 154
    . And significantly, the FTCA delegated this burden en
    3   masse, without particular concern for the specific role or position of the
    4   government employee responsible for committing the tort. See S. Rep. No. 1400,
    5   at 31-32 (1946) (stating that the FTCA’s provisions “cover all Federal agencies,
    6   including Government corporations, and all Federal officers and employees”).
    7         In light of this contextual evidence, there is no reason to assume that
    8   Congress in enacting the FTCA meant to exclude the President from the process
    9   that would avoid serious administrative burdens while providing comprehensive
    10   redress to private individuals “having meritorious claims hitherto barred by
    11   sovereign immunity,” Muniz, 
    374 U.S. at 154
    . 9           Or as the Eighth Circuit
    12   convincingly explained in the course of interpreting § 2671 to cover federal judges:
    13   “[T]o hold that employees of the judicial branch are not covered by the Federal
    9 Consider, for example, if the President of the United States—while discussing foreign
    policy with the head of a neighboring country in the course of playing golf with that
    person—potentially negligently hit the golf ball in a way that injured a member of the
    golfing group. We do not believe that Congress in the Westfall Act and in the FTCA
    could conceivably have meant to place the burden of defending a tort suit under such
    circumstances on the President. Oral Arg. Tr. at 22-23.
    32
    1   Tort Claims Act would ultimately impede Congress’ statutory design: efficient
    2   redress for victims of governmental torts.” LePatourel, 
    571 F.2d at 409
    .
    3         For all these reasons, we hold that the President is an employee of the
    4   government under the Westfall Act.
    5                                             IV
    6         The remaining question on appeal is whether Trump’s public statements
    7   denying Carroll’s sexual assault allegations occurred within the scope of his
    8   employment, see 
    28 U.S.C. §§ 1346
    (b)(1), 2679. If they did, then Trump is entitled
    9   to immunity through substitution pursuant to the Westfall Act. But if they did
    10   not, substitution must be denied and Carroll’s lawsuit will proceed in the ordinary
    11   course against Trump in his personal capacity. Where, as here, the parties do not
    12   dispute the facts underlying the allegedly tortious conduct, we review the scope
    13   of employment issue de novo. See, e.g., Council on Am. Islamic Relations v. Ballenger,
    14   
    444 F.3d 659
    , 664 (D.C. Cir. 2006); Bello v. United States, 93 F. App’x 288, 289-90 (2d
    15   Cir. 2004).
    16         The scope of employment inquiry is governed by the respondeat superior law
    17   of the state in which the alleged tort occurred. See Williams v. United States, 350
    33
    
    1 U.S. 857
     (1955) (per curiam); Fountain v. Karim, 
    838 F.3d 129
    , 135 (2d Cir. 2016).
    2   Here, as noted earlier, the parties agree that District of Columbia law applies.
    3         But applying that law is easier said than done since the District’s application
    4   of respondeat superior in contexts like the instant one is anything but clear. In light
    5   of this uncertainty, and the apparent significance of this case, we conclude that it
    6   is advisable to certify this question to the D.C. Court of Appeals. To explain our
    7   uncertainty, however, we must review both the historical origins of respondeat
    8   superior in tort law and how that doctrine has been applied in the District.
    9                                             A
    10         The liability of an employer for the negligent torts of the employee has deep
    11   roots in the common law. Indeed, Holmes wrote that virtually every legal system
    12   has an analogical doctrine. See generally O. W. Holmes, Jr., Agency, 
    4 Harv. L. Rev. 13
       345 (1891). In Anglo-American law, it was an essential part of the form of action—
    14   Trespass on the Case (“Case”)—from which much of modern tort law derives.
    15   Case held the master (employer) liable for the negligent torts of the servant
    16   (employee) whenever the servant was acting in the scope of employment, as that
    17   concept was broadly defined. If the negligent acts were a characteristic risk of the
    18   employer’s business, there would be liability even if they did not benefit the
    34
    1   employer. The distinction between “frolics” on the part of the employee (which
    2   gave rise to no liability on the employer) and “detours” (which did give rise to
    3   liability) reflected this dichotomy. See generally Guido Calabresi, Some Thoughts on
    4   Risk Distribution and the Law of Torts, 
    70 Yale L.J. 499
     (1961).10
    5         When the employee’s tortious acts were intentionally wrongful, however,
    6   the history was quite different. Case did not cover intentional torts, and an action
    7   in Trespass (“Trespass”), the other form of action from which much of modern tort
    8   law derives, covered only direct wrongs. See Guido Calabresi, Toward A Unified
    9   Theory of Torts, 1 J. Tort L. 1, 3-4 (2007). Trespass gave rise to liability on the doer—
    10   regardless of whether the injury was intentional, faultless, or negligent—but not
    11   on the doer’s employer. 
    Id.
     This left a gap that troubled courts increasingly from
    12   the late eighteenth century on, as the reasons for the peculiar rules governing
    10Case did not in all cases require “fault” on the part of the employee in order to sustain
    an action. Guido Calabresi, Toward A Unified Theory of Torts, 1 J. Tort L. 1, 3 (2007). It
    applied to a few other situations in which financial deterrence was sought. 
    Id.
     But Case
    did not apply to intentional wrongdoings for, at the time, deterrence as to these was dealt
    with by the criminal law. 
    Id. at 6
     (“When someone injured somebody else intentionally,
    even if indirectly, the injurer was hanged or whipped.”).
    35
    1   Trespass and Case faded and were forgotten. See, e.g., Scott v. Shepherd, 96 Eng.
    2   Rep. 525 (K.B. 1773).
    3         What to do about employer liability where the employee’s acts were
    4   intentionally wrongful? Liability in some cases seemed clearly warranted, and yet
    5   there were no precedents and, so, courts made up new rules to deal with such
    6   cases. Cf. William O. Douglas, Vicarious Liability and Administration of Risk I, 38
    
    7 Yale L.J. 584
    , 584 (1929) (“From whence came the rule and a complete exposition
    8   of its pedigree are problems as yet unanswered.”).
    9         As a result, until the mid-twentieth century, the prevailing approach to
    10   respondeat superior for intentional torts of the employee focused on whether the
    11   employer had enjoyed a benefit as a result of the employee’s tortious conduct.
    12   Although no cogent explanation for the theory was provided, this view of the
    13   doctrine “required a close link between the acts of the agent and profit accruing to
    14   the master before vicarious liability” could attach to the latter. Taber v. Maine, 67
    
    15 F.3d 1029
    , 1036 (2d Cir. 1995); see also Ira S. Bushey & Sons, Inc. v. United States, 398
    
    16 F.2d 167
    , 170 (2d Cir. 1968) (discussing traditional approach). As the Restatement
    17   (Second) of Agency put it, an employee’s tortious conduct would be deemed
    36
    1   within the scope of employment if “it is actuated, at least in part, by a purpose to
    2   serve the master.” Restatement (Second) of Agency § 228 (1958).
    3         In the second half of the twentieth century, however, the traditional view of
    4   respondeat superior for intentional torts began to recede. See Taber, 67 F.3d at 1036
    5   (“But today, this position is in hasty retreat, if not rout.”). The legal academy and
    6   the courts in turn started to treat vicarious liability in intentional tort cases
    7   consistently with the longstanding approach to respondeat superior in negligent
    8   torts. In both instances, liability of the employer was viewed by courts as a means
    9   of internalizing the liability costs of running a business enterprise on that business.
    10   See, e.g., Taber, 67 F.3d at 1037 (Calabresi, J.) (holding that drunken Navy sailor’s
    11   car accident off base was within the scope of his employment because “it is a
    12   reasonably obvious risk” of the Navy’s “general enterprise”); Ira S. Bushey, 398
    13   F.2d at 170 (Friendly, J.) (concluding that the Navy was vicariously liable for
    14   drunken sailor’s damage to a drydrock after returning to ship from a night’s
    15   liberty); Carr v. Wm. C. Crowell Co., 
    171 P.2d 5
    , 8 (Cal. 1946) (Traynor, J.)
    16   (concluding that workplace assault fell within scope of employment because it was
    17   a risk “inherent in the working environment”); see also Guido Calabresi, Some
    18   Thoughts on Risk Distribution and the Law of Torts, 
    70 Yale L.J. 499
    , 545 (1961) (“For
    37
    1   a cost of an activity is not any the less real because the employee was not
    2   authorized to undertake it, or because he acted willfully.”).
    3         At bottom, the “integrating principle” of this view was that “the employer
    4   should be liable for those faults that may fairly be regarded as risks of his business,
    5   whether they are committed in furthering it or not.” 5 FOWLER V. HARPER,
    6   FLEMING JAMES, JR. & OSCAR S. GRAY, THE LAW OF TORTS § 26.7, 40-41 (2d ed. 1986)
    7   (hereinafter “HARPER & JAMES”). Or as Judge Friendly most elegantly put it, the
    8   doctrine of respondeat superior is based on “a deeply rooted sentiment that a
    9   business enterprise cannot justly disclaim responsibility for accidents which may
    10   fairly be said to be characteristic of its activities.” Ira S. Bushey, 398 F.2d at 171.
    11                                                   B
    12         Some states, though, remained wedded to the narrower approach to
    13   intentional torts which emphasized employer benefit or profit. See, e.g., A-G Foods,
    14   Inc. v. Pepperidge Farm, Inc., 
    579 A.2d 69
    , 208 (Conn. 1990) (“We have long adhered
    15   to the principle that in order to hold an employer liable for the intentional torts of
    16   his employee, the employee must be acting . . . in furtherance of the employer’s
    17   business.”); Catherine M. Sharkey, Institutional Liability for Employees’ Intentional
    18   Torts: Vicarious Liability as a Quasi-Substitute for Punitive Damages, 
    53 Val. U. L. Rev. 38
    1   1, 12-14 (2018) (analyzing split among jurisdictions).             And, the District of
    2   Columbia, at least as a formal matter, has endorsed this more traditional view.
    3   Specifically, when analyzing intentional tort respondeat superior cases, the D.C.
    4   Court of Appeals has stated that it applies the analytical framework set forth in
    5   the Restatement (Second) of Agency. See Dist. of Columbia v. Bamidele, 
    103 A.3d 6
       516, 525 n.6 (D.C. 2014).11
    7         Importantly, however, while the District has adopted the Restatement as
    8   part of its law, this does not conclusively establish that internalization of costs—
    9   that is, the placement of costs that are a part of doing a business on that business—
    10   has little or no role to play in the District’s vicarious liability jurisprudence.
    11   Indeed, despite the District’s formal emphasis on discerning benefit to the
    12   employer, several of its major precedents regarding respondeat superior appear, in
    11 The Restatement states that “[c]onduct of a servant is within the scope of employment”
    if:
    (a) it is of the kind he is employed to perform;
    (b) it occurs substantially within the authorized time and space limits;
    (c) it is actuated, at least in part, by a purpose to serve the master, and
    (d) if force is intentionally used by the servant against another, the use
    of force is not unexpectable by the master.
    Restatement (Second) of Agency § 228.
    39
    1   fact, to be all about internalizing costs within the business enterprise. See Oral Arg.
    2   Tr. at 36-40 (discussing the District’s case law).
    3         In such cases, the D.C. Court of Appeals may seem to be conducting a mixed
    4   type of analysis, in which it internalizes certain costs that cannot comfortably be
    5   said to be “for the benefit” of the business enterprise, but are, nevertheless,
    6   described as such. See Taber, 67 F.3d at 1036 (stating that “employer-benefit can be
    7   adduced in all these cases”); Ira S. Bushey, 398 F.2d at 170 (noting that, under the
    8   traditional view, “[c]ourts have gone to considerable lengths to find such a
    9   purpose”).   At the same time, though, we must acknowledge that there are
    10   decisions in the District’s case law that apply respondeat superior truly in a
    11   traditional light and look totally to whether the employee’s actions were taken
    12   with the purpose of serving the master.
    13         It is in considerable part because of the oscillation between these two
    14   conceptions of respondeat superior that we are left with insufficient guidance as to
    15   which doctrinal framework might apply to this case.             And it is with this
    16   background in mind that we review the law of the District.
    17                                              1
    40
    1         Although the District’s respondeat superior law is determined by the
    2   jurisdiction’s highest court, the D.C. Court of Appeals, some—but not all—
    3   decisions of the Federal U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit have, over the
    4   years, been accepted by the D.C. Court of Appeals as a part of its law. To avoid
    5   confusion between these courts, we will hereafter refer to the District’s highest
    6   court as the “Court of Appeals” and the Federal Appeals court as the “D.C.
    7   Circuit.”
    8         The foundational decisions underlying the District’s respondeat superior
    9   doctrine involving intentional torts originated in the late 1970s to early 1980s. In
    10   the earliest of these decisions, Lyon v. Carey, 
    533 F.2d 649
     (D.C. Cir. 1976), the D.C.
    11   Circuit, purporting to apply District law, addressed a case in which a young man
    12   who had been employed as a deliveryman by a trucking company assaulted and
    13   raped a woman while delivering a mattress. 
    Id. at 652
    . The incident had been
    14   spurred by an argument between the employee and the woman over whether the
    15   mattress should be brought upstairs to the apartment, and whether payment was
    16   to be made by check or cash. 
    Id.
     at 651–52. In upholding the jury’s finding of
    17   vicarious liability on the part of the trucking company, the Lyon court held that the
    18   employee’s conduct fell within the scope of employment under District law since
    41
    1   “[t]he dispute arose out of the very transaction which had brought [the employee]
    2   to the premises, and . . . out of the employer’s instructions to get cash only before
    3   delivery.” 
    Id. at 652
    .
    4          Notably, the D.C. Circuit applied internalization theory in reaching this
    5   conclusion, stating in no uncertain terms:
    6                 It is within the enterprise liability of vendors like furniture stores
    7                 and those who deliver for them that deliverymen, endeavoring to
    8                 serve their masters, are likely to be in situations of friction with
    9                 customers, and that when they secure entry into a customer’s
    10                 premises by means of a badge of employment, these foreseeable
    11                 altercations may precipitate violence for which recovery may be had,
    12                 even though the particular type of violence was not in itself
    13                 anticipated or foreseeable.
    14   
    Id. at 651
    .
    15          And notably, also, the Court of Appeals has treated Lyon as accurately
    16   applying District law. See, e.g., Weinberg v. Johnson, 
    518 A.2d 985
    , 990-92 (D.C.
    17   1986); Boykin v. Dist. of Columbia, 
    484 A.2d 560
    , 563-64 (D.C. 1984); Howard Univ. v.
    18   Best, 
    484 A.2d 958
    , 987 (D.C. 1984).
    42
    1         Three years later, the Court of Appeals handed down arguably its most
    2   significant respondeat superior decision in Penn Central Transportation Company v.
    3   Reddick, 
    398 A.2d 27
     (D.C. 1979). In Penn Central, the court held that a railroad
    4   company employee’s assault on a taxi driver exceeded the scope of his
    5   employment because the “conduct was in no sense, either wholly or partially in
    6   furtherance of [the railroad’s] business.” 
    Id. at 32
    . The employee in that case had
    7   returned to the District after working an overnight shift on a train ride that had
    8   crossed state lines. 
    Id. at 28
    . On arriving at the District’s Union Station, the
    9   employee hailed a taxi cab in the vicinity to obtain a ride home, but, in the course
    10   of doing so, became embroiled in a heated argument with the taxi driver. 
    Id.
     at 28-
    11   29. In a fit of outrage, the employee kicked the driver with his steel-toed railman
    12   boots, causing the driver to fall on the floor; the employee then continued kicking
    13   the driver “as he lay on the floor, shattering [the driver’s] right leg.” 
    Id. at 29
    .
    14         In holding that these actions exceeded the scope of employment, the Court
    15   of Appeals began its analysis by acknowledging the two competing views of
    16   respondeat superior with respect to intentional torts, see 
    id. at 30
     (traditional view);
    17   
    id. at 31
     (internalization view). The court then rejected the view that it was
    18   desirable to internalize every liability risk that might arise in the ordinary course
    43
    1   of running a business. 12 
    Id.
     Specifically, it noted that employee conduct that is
    2   “wholly unprovoked, highly unusual, and outrageous” might justify treating it
    3   outside the scope of employment, see 
    id. at 31
     (“The outrageous quality of an
    4   employe[e]’s act may well be persuasive in considering whether his motivation
    5   was purely personal.”). According to the court, the employee’s motive in this
    6   sense provided one way of discerning whether it would be fair to internalize the
    7   liability cost at issue. 
    Id.
    8          In then applying these principles, the Penn Central court concluded that the
    9   railroad employee’s assault was too attenuated from his employment duties given
    10   the “violent and unprovoked” nature of the assault. 
    Id. at 32
    . The court explained
    11   that, given these circumstances, the assault did not “further” the employer’s
    12   business, nor could the assault be reasonably considered “more or less [an]
    13   inevitable toll of a lawful enterprise.” 
    Id.
     (“There is nothing in the business of
    14   running a railroad that makes it likely that an assault will occur between a railroad
    12Oddly, but significantly, however, in Penn Central, the court relied heavily, among other
    sources, on the leading torts treatise: HARPER & JAMES. As that torts treatise put it, “the
    integrating principle of respondeat superior is that the employer should be liable for those
    faults that may be fairly regarded as risks of his business, whether they are committed in
    furthering it or not.” HARPER & JAMES § 26.7, 40-41.
    44
    1   brakeman and a taxicab driver over the celerity with which the latter will provide
    2   a taxicab ride to the former.”).
    3         Two years later, the Court of Appeals decided Johnson v. Weinberg, 
    434 A.2d 4
       404 (D.C. 1981). In Johnson, the plaintiff “visited a laundromat near his home at
    5   midday to launder some shirts.” 
    Id. at 406
    . While his clothes were being washed,
    6   the plaintiff left the laundromat for a short while and returned later in the day to
    7   retrieve them. 
    Id.
     When he returned, however, the plaintiff discovered his clothes
    8   were missing, and, as a result, questioned a laundromat employee intermittently
    9   throughout the course of that day about his missing clothes. 
    Id.
     After the last of
    10   these exchanges, as the plaintiff looked to be giving up and exiting the store, the
    11   laundromat employee called out and shot the plaintiff in the face. 
    Id.
    12          On appeal from summary judgment entered against the plaintiff, the Court
    13   of Appeals held that a reasonable jury could find the laundromat vicariously liable
    14   in these circumstances. 13 
    Id. at 409
    . Although the court purported to analyze scope
    15   of employment using the Restatement Second framework, its analysis of the case,
    At trial, the jury found that the employee had acted within the scope of his employment
    13
    under D.C. law. See Weinberg v. Johnson, 
    518 A.2d 985
     (D.C. 1986) (“Johnson II”). The
    Court of Appeals upheld that jury determination on appeal. 
    Id. at 989
    .
    45
    1   in fact, centered on internalization. Id. at 408-09. After citing the reasoning of Lyon
    2   and Penn Central, the court concluded that it was fair to internalize the cost on the
    3   laundromat owner in this instance because “[t]he assault arose out of the
    4   transaction which initially brought [the employee] to the premises (to launder
    5   shirts) and was triggered by a dispute over the conduct of the employer’s business
    6   (missing shirts).” Id. at 409.
    7         To round out the circle, in Boykin v. District of Columbia, 
    484 A.2d 560
     (D.C.
    8   1984), the Court of Appeals stated that Johnson had defined the outer limits of its
    9   respondeat superior jurisprudence with respect to intentional torts. In Boykin, the
    10   court held that a sexual assault committed by a public school employee upon a
    11   disabled student did not occur within the scope of his employment. 
    Id. at 561
    . The
    12   employee there had been a Field Coordinator with the District’s public schools,
    13   and was responsible for coordinating services and planning educational programs
    14   for deaf and blind children. 
    Id.
     While still on school grounds, the employee
    15   sexually assaulted a blind, deaf, and mute 12-year old student under his
    16   supervision. 
    Id.
     The student died shortly thereafter, and her mother pursued a
    17   lawsuit against the District, seeking to hold it vicariously liable. 
    Id.
    46
    1         Based on this factual record, the Court of Appeals held that the employee
    2   had not acted within the scope of his employment because the sexual assault was
    3   not “committed to serve the school’s interest, but rather appear[ed] to have been
    4   done solely for the accomplishment of [his] independent, malicious, mischievous
    5   and selfish purposes.” 
    Id. at 562
    .
    6         Needing, however, to distinguish its prior decisions, the court characterized
    7   those cases as “approach[ing] the outer limits” of its respondeat superior case law,
    8   
    id. at 563
    , and accordingly cabined them to their underlying facts. Moreover, as
    9   the court saw it, Lyon and Johnson involved situations where the employment
    10   environment created the very risk of the tortious conduct occurring, whereas in
    11   Boykin, the employee’s job merely “afforded him the opportunity to pursue his
    12   adventure,” 
    id.
     (emphasis in original). In drawing this supposed distinction, the
    13   Boykin court concluded that respondeat superior could not be invoked since the
    14   employee’s conduct “was utterly without relation to the service which he was
    15   employed to render.” 
    Id. at 564
    .
    16         Having examined the seminal respondeat superior decisions of the District,
    17   we   find   it   unclear   whether,   today,   the   doctrine’s   origins   rest   on
    18   internationalization or the more traditional view premised on employer benefit.
    47
    1   All of these decisions use language and reasoning drawn from both approaches;
    2   but in Lyon, Johnson, and Penn Central, the driving force behind their rulings seems
    3   to be whether internalizing costs was a desirable outcome based on the particular
    4   context of the case. In Boykin, instead, the focus seems to be on whether the
    5   employee’s behavior in some way serves the employer. 484 A.2d at 562.
    6                                              2
    7         Subsequent respondeat superior decisions in the District’s case law have done
    8   little to clarify this doctrinal uncertainty. For example, in Howard University v. Best,
    9   
    484 A.2d 958
     (D.C. 1984), the Court of Appeals reversed a grant of summary
    10   judgment for the university after concluding that a reasonable jury could find acts
    11   of sexual harassment by university professors to be within the scope of their
    12   employment, 
    id. at 987
    . In Best, the plaintiff had been the sole female faculty
    13   member in the College of Pharmacy at Howard University. 
    Id.
     at 981 The plaintiff
    14   alleged that, throughout her tenure, male colleagues propositioned her on
    15   numerous occasions and made inappropriate sexual remarks. See, e.g., 
    id.
     (alleging
    16   that a male colleague whispered “if you keep dressing this way you are going to
    17   be raped” during a faculty meeting).
    48
    1         Based on this record, the court held that a reasonable jury could find the
    2   university vicariously liable since the alleged harassment “occurred during
    3   faculty, administrative or other professional meetings[.]” 
    Id. at 987
    . Citing the
    4   internalization rationale set forth in Penn Central, the court explained that:
    5   “Liability may be extended to situations where the employment provides a
    6   peculiar opportunity and incentive for the tortious activity.” 
    Id.
     (quoting Penn
    7   Central, 
    398 A.2d at 31
    ).
    8         But two years later, in District of Columbia v. Coron, 
    515 A.2d 435
     (D.C. 1986),
    9   the Court of Appeals issued an opinion in which the pendulum swung the other
    10   way. In Coron, an off-duty police officer, who had been drinking on the evening
    11   in question, assaulted a pedestrian on the sidewalk following a confrontation at a
    12   traffic light. 
    Id. at 437
    . As a result of the incident, the injured victim sued the
    13   District on a vicarious liability theory, and alleged that the officer was acting
    14   within the scope of his employment because the police department’s regulations
    15   required its officers “always to be on duty.” 
    Id. at 438
    . At trial, the jury agreed
    16   and found the District vicariously liable. 
    Id. at 437
    .
    17         The Court of Appeals, however, reversed this determination on appeal, and
    18   concluded that the violent and vengeful nature of the assault demonstrated that
    49
    1   the officer’s actions could not have possibly served the District’s interests. 
    Id.
     at
    2   438 (“[I]t is of particular importance that at no time was Guidotti’s conduct in
    3   furtherance of the District’s interests.”).       And rather than engage in an
    4   internalization analysis, the court applied the employer benefit view of respondeat
    5   superior, and concluded that the officer’s conduct was outside the scope because it
    6   was “solely for the accomplishment of his independent malicious or mischievous
    7   purposes.” 
    Id. at 438-39
    .
    8         The schisms in the doctrine were further made apparent in Haddon v. United
    9   States, 
    68 F.3d 1420
     (D.C. Cir. 1995), abrogated on other grounds by Osborn, 
    549 U.S. 10
       at 225. In Haddon, the D.C. Circuit, purporting to apply District law, held that a
    11   White House electrician had not acted within the scope of his employment “when
    12   he allegedly threatened to beat up the [White House] chef.” 
    Id. at 1423
    . After
    13   undertaking a comprehensive review of the District’s respondeat superior law,
    14   Judge Tatel, in writing for the majority, explained the integrating principle of the
    15   doctrine as:
    16                  According to the D.C. Court of Appeals, conduct is incidental to an
    17                  employee’s legitimate duties if it is foreseeable. Foreseeable in this
    18                  context does not carry the same meaning as it does in negligence
    50
    1                  cases; rather, it requires the court to determine whether it is fair to
    2                  charge employers with responsibility for the intentional torts of their
    3                  employees.
    4   
    Id. at 1424
    .
    5          Judge Tatel then concluded that the employee’s threats of violence fell
    6   outside the scope of his employment because they “did not arise directly out of his
    7   instructions or job assignment as a White House electrician.” 
    Id. at 1425
    .
    8          In dissent, Judge Sentelle argued that he did “not find the state of D.C. law
    9   as clear as [his] colleagues [did].” 
    Id. at 1427
    . According to Judge Sentelle, while
    10   the “D.C. courts . . . have paid lip service to the principles of the Restatement
    11   (Second),” the case law appeared to go much further in internalizing faults that
    12   would not normally fit under the Restatement’s framework. 
    Id.
     at 1427-28 (citing
    13   Lyon and Johnson).
    14          Subsequent vicarious liability decisions from the Court of Appeals have
    15   turned less on internalization, and more on employer benefit. But some of these
    16   have stretched employer benefit very far. Thus, in Hechinger Company v. Johnson,
    17   
    761 A.2d 15
     (D.C. 2000), the court held that a home improvement store was
    18   properly found vicariously liable when a store employee, on suspicion of theft,
    51
    1   assaulted a customer at the checkout counter. 
    Id. at 25
    . Applying the traditional
    2   view of respondeat superior, the court explained that a reasonable jury could find
    3   based on these facts “that the man’s actions were motivated by a desire” to serve
    4   his employer. 
    Id.
    5         Similarly, in Brown v. Argenbright Security, Inc., 
    782 A.2d 752
     (D.C. 2001), the
    6   Court of Appeals concluded that a grocery store security guard could be found by
    7   a reasonable jury to have acted within the scope of his employment when he
    8   allegedly conducted an inappropriate search of a young girl’s chest and genital
    9   area. 
    Id. at 758-59
    . As the court put it, “[w]hile it is probable that the vast majority
    10   of sexual assaults arise from purely personal motives, it is nevertheless possible
    11   that an employee’s conduct may amount to a sexual assault and still be actuated,
    12   at least in part, by a desire to serve the employer’s interests.” 
    Id.
     at 758 (citing
    13   Restatement (Second) of Agency § 228).
    14         Most recently, the Court of Appeals addressed the doctrine of respondeat
    15   superior in a pair of cases involving alleged police misconduct. First, in District of
    16   Columbia v. Bamidele, 
    103 A.3d 516
     (D.C. 2014), the court held that off-duty police
    17   officers who had assaulted a couple at a restaurant did not act within the scope of
    18   their employment because they were drawn into the skirmish for “purely personal
    52
    1   reasons.” 
    Id. at 525-26
    . Since the officers had acted out of personal spite, the court
    2   explained that their conduct was not intended to further the interests of the police
    3   department and, so, declined to impose vicarious liability. 
    Id.
    4         In Blair v. District of Columbia, 
    190 A.3d 212
     (D.C. 2018), however, the court
    5   came out the other way in a situation where off-duty police officers had become
    6   embroiled in a fight outside a nightclub with a group of unruly civilians, 
    id.
     at 216-
    7   17. In holding that a reasonable jury could find vicarious liability on this factual
    8   record, the court emphasized that, unlike Bamidele, the “professional and personal
    9   motives” of at least one of the officers “were significantly intertwined,” such that
    10   the interests of the police department were being served. 
    Id. at 227
    .
    11                                              C
    12         Despite the manifest uncertainty the above cases demonstrate, Trump
    13   contends that the D.C. Circuit’s decision in Council on American Islamic Relations v.
    14   Ballenger, 
    444 F.3d 659
     (D.C. Cir. 2006), as well as its progeny, see, e.g., Haaland, 973
    
    15 F.3d 591
    ; Wuterich v. Murtha, 
    562 F.3d 375
     (D.C. Cir. 2009); Wilson v. Libby, 
    535 F.3d 16
       697 (D.C. Cir. 2008), dictate the outcome of this case. We disagree. Ballenger’s core
    17   holding—that a public official’s statements to the press fall within the scope of
    18   employment—is indeed directly on point. But the D.C. Circuit, as a Federal Court
    53
    1   of Appeals, is not the arbiter of the District’s law. Its views of the District’s law
    2   are no more binding than would be ours, or those of any other federal or state
    3   court.
    4                                             D
    5            Under the District’s certification statute, the Court of Appeals may accept
    6   certification on an issue of District law from a Federal Court of Appeals if the
    7   certified issue “may be determinative of the cause pending in such certifying court
    8   and as to which it appears to the certifying court there is no controlling precedent
    9   in the decisions” of the Court of Appeals. See 
    D.C. Code Ann. § 11-723
    (a) (West
    10   2001). While we know of no instances in which our court has certified to the Court
    11   of Appeals, the D.C. Circuit has done so routinely, “when District of Columbia law
    12   is genuinely uncertain and the question is of extreme public importance.”
    13   Companhia Brasileira Carbureto de Calicio v. Applied Indus. Materials Corp., 
    640 F.3d 14
       369, 373 (D.C. Cir. 2011). Both factors are clearly present in the case before us.
    15                                             1
    16            As we have just discussed, the District’s law with respect to respondeat
    17   superior is “genuinely uncertain.” 
    Id.
     The Court of Appeals has oscillated between
    18   the traditional, narrower view of respondeat superior and the more modern,
    54
    1   broader, internalization view. As a result, it has left us with insufficient guidance
    2   as to which controls. Moreover, we think that certain decisions that appeared (on
    3   the surface) to apply a traditional analysis, in fact, applied the approach of
    4   internalizing costs on the employer. See, e.g., Best, 
    484 A.2d 958
    ; Johnson, 
    434 A.2d 5
       404; Lyon, 
    533 F.2d 649
    . Thus, it is hard to explain the court’s treatment of sexual
    6   harassment by university professors in Best, that of the laundromat employee’s
    7   discharge of a gun in Johnson, and that of the deliveryman’s rape of a customer in
    8   Lyon under the traditional paradigm of benefit to the employer. We think it is at
    9   least as likely that, in those decisions, the Court of Appeals sought to internalize
    10   costs.
    11            The District’s case law has, thus, seemed to vacillate between a narrow view
    12   of scope of employment that requires evidence that an intentional tort benefit—or
    13   be for the purpose of benefiting—the employer, and a more modern, broader view
    14   of scope of employment that would hold that any intentional tort that is a part of
    15   the risks of an employer’s activity falls within the scope of employment.
    16            Under the circumstances, we cannot say what the District would do in this
    17   case.
    18                                              2
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    1         Finally, the scope of employment issue presents “a question of extreme
    2   public importance.” Sturdza v. United Arab Emirates, 
    281 F.3d 1287
    , 1303 (D.C. Cir.
    3   2002). As relevant here, the question touches upon the duties of the President of
    4   the United States, and the personal tort liability he and his successors may (or may
    5   not) face under the Westfall Act. Getting the law of the local jurisdiction right is,
    6   therefore, of crucial importance, and only the highest local court is capable of
    7   making such a determination.
    8         In certifying, we wish to emphasize that the issue before us is totally
    9   separate from the substantive merits of the claim underlying this defamation
    10   action. That is, in evaluating the scope of employment issue, we do not pass
    11   judgment or express any view as to whether Trump’s public statements were
    12   indeed defamatory or whether the sexual assault allegations had, in fact, occurred.
    13   Those questions, which might loom large over this case at some point, are simply
    14   not before us in the present appeal.
    15         The issue that is before us, and which we now certify to the D.C. Court of
    16   Appeals, is only: Under the laws of the District, were the allegedly libelous public
    17   statements made, during his term in office, by the President of the United States,
    56
    1   denying allegations of misconduct, with regards to events prior to that term of
    2   office, within the scope of his employment as President of the United States?
    3         The D.C. Court of Appeals is, of course, free, should it accept certification,
    4   to modify the above question as it chooses.
    5                                       *     *      *
    6         We, therefore, respectfully request the D.C. Court of Appeals to exercise its
    7   discretionary authority to accept and decide this, aforementioned, question of law.
    8   The Clerk of this Court is hereby ordered to transmit forthwith to the D.C. Court
    9   of Appeals, under official seal of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second
    10   Circuit, a copy of this order and request for certification and all relevant briefs and
    11   excerpts of record pursuant to 
    D.C. Code § 11-723
    .
    57
    1   GUIDO CALABRESI, Circuit Judge, concurring:
    2          I write a few words separately, and additionally, because lying behind the
    3   certified question there is a question that – as far as I know – has not been answered
    4   anywhere, and that raises profound problems as to judicial behavior and tort law.
    5          Many jurisdictions have gone out of their way to broaden what behavior,
    6   which is intentionally wrongful, is deemed to be within the scope of the
    7   wrongdoer’s employment. They have done so at times implicitly, see, e.g., Ira S.
    8   Bushey & Sons, Inc. v. United States, 
    398 F.2d 167
    , 170 (2d Cir. 1968) (Friendly, J.),
    9   and at times explicitly, see, e.g, Taber v. Maine, 
    67 F.3d 1029
    , 1031 (2d Cir. 1995), 1 in
    10   order to place the loss on an employer who is able to pay, thereby assuring that
    11   the loss is fully borne by the employee-employer nexus. 2 They have done this, as
    1 See also Farmers Ins. Grp. v. County of Santa Clara, 
    906 P.2d 440
    , 448 (Cal. 1995) (“In
    California, the scope of employment has been interpreted broadly . . . . [A]cts necessary
    to the comfort, convenience, health, and welfare of the employee while at work, though
    strictly personal and not acts of service, do not take the employee outside the scope of
    employment.”).
    2 See, e.g., Horn v. Duke Homes, Div. of Windsor Mobile Homes, Inc., 
    755 F.2d 599
    , 605 (7th
    Cir. 1985) (“the employer, not the [employee,] should bear the cost of the torts of its
    employees as a required cost of doing business, insofar as such torts are reasonably
    foreseeable and the employer is a more efficient cost avoider than the injured plaintiff.”);
    Rodgers v. Kemper Constr. Co., 
    124 Cal. Rptr. 143
    , 148 (Ct. App. 1975) (“[E]mployer’s
    liability should extend beyond his actual or possible control over the employees to
    include risks inherent in or created by the enterprise because he, rather than the innocent
    injured party, is best able to spread the risk through prices, rates of liability insurance.”).
    1   they have said, to “internalize” the loss completely. There are, though, a few rare
    2   cases – and the one before us is one – where if the employee misbehavior is deemed
    3   to be within the scope of employment, the opposite occurs. This is so when – as in
    4   the instant case – the employer is for some reason immune from liability and the
    5   employee is shielded from liability because employee’s actions that are in the
    6   scope of employment are treated as solely those of the employer.
    7         I know of no court that has considered expressly whether, in such cases,
    8   actions that would normally be deemed to be in the scope of employment should
    9   not be so deemed – thereby leaving the employee liable. The effect of that would
    10   be that the loss – though perhaps not fully internalized in the wrongdoing
    11   employee-employer nexus because the employee is not capable of paying all of it
    12   –would, nonetheless, be internalized to some extent. It would not be left totally on
    13   the alleged victims.
    14         There are obvious legal process problems with such an approach. The same
    15   term “scope of employment” would be given different, inconsistent meanings,
    16   solely because of the different liability result of applying a consistent meaning.
    17   And that is certainly troublesome. But courts may nonetheless be tempted to do
    18   this, if the reason their jurisdiction had broadened the meaning of scope of
    2
    1   employment was, in part, to achieve a liability-placing result. And it is not
    2   inconceivable (though not necessarily desirable) that courts, in cases that under
    3   their scope of employment precedents are close, might be affected by these
    4   considerations in deciding what – in a particular case – was within the scope of
    5   employment.
    6         Since the law of the District of Columbia is unclear as to how broadly it
    7   views scope of employment, we have certified that question to it. It is not for us
    8   even to suggest that they should consider the above mentioned difficult
    9   underlying tort law question. Hence, I did not raise it in the majority opinion. But
    10   since I have, for nearly seventy years, been a torts scholar, and since this case is
    11   about Torts and not Trump – its ultimate decision will affect ordinary people,
    12   parties who are neither Presidents nor controversial – I have deemed it
    13   appropriate to point to the existence of this recurring and troublesome question,
    14   which the D.C. Court of Appeals is, of course, totally free to ignore.
    3
    DENNY CHIN, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    On June 21, 2019, in a book excerpt published in New York Magazine,
    plaintiff E. Jean Carroll publicly accused former President Donald Trump of
    raping her some thirty years ago. Within hours and over the course of the next
    several days, Trump addressed the accusations publicly, saying, among other
    things, "[she] is trying to sell a new book -- that should indicate her motivation";
    "[s]hame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get publicity for
    themselves"; "she's made this charge against others"; and "she's not my type."
    Carroll sued Trump for defamation in the New York State Supreme
    Court. About ten months later, the Government intervened in the action,
    certified that Trump had acted "within the scope of his office as President of the
    United States" when making the statements about Carroll, and removed the case
    to the federal court below. The Government thereafter moved to substitute the
    United States as party defendant and to dismiss Trump from the case under the
    Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort Act of 1988 (the "Westfall Act"), 
    28 U.S.C. § 2679
    (d)(2), which modified the Federal Tort Claims Act (the "FTCA"), 
    28 U.S.C. §§ 1346
    (b), 2671-2680. See generally Levin v. United States, 
    568 U.S. 503
    , 505-
    07 (2013). Through the FTCA, the United States waives its sovereign immunity
    for certain torts committed by "employee[s] of the Government" in the scope of
    their employment, 
    28 U.S.C. § 1346
    (b)(1), but, crucially, not for the tort of
    defamation, 
    id.
     § 2680(h). If the Government is correct that the United States
    must be substituted for Trump in this case under the Westfall Act, then Carroll is
    left without any remedy, even if Trump indeed defamed her.
    The district court held that, first, the Westfall Act does not apply to
    the President of the United States because he is not an "employee of the
    Government" for these purposes and, second, even assuming the President is an
    employee for these purposes, Trump was not acting within the scope of his
    employment. The district court therefore denied the Government's motion. The
    majority now reverses as to the statute's applicability and holds as a matter of
    first impression that the FTCA encompasses the President.
    The President is "the chief constitutional officer of the Executive
    Branch, entrusted with supervisory and policy responsibilities of utmost
    discretion and sensitivity." Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 
    457 U.S. 731
    , 751 (1982). The U.S.
    Constitution vests the "executive Power" in the President and empowers the
    President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." U.S. Const. art. II,
    § 3. The "primary control" on the President is "dependence on the people" -- that
    2
    is, the electoral system. See The Federalist No. 51 (James Madison). Our tripartite
    system of government "divide[s] and arrange[s]" the executive, legislative, and
    judicial branches so that "each may be a check on the other." Id. And, of course,
    the President may be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors. U.S. Const.
    art. II, § 4. But save these constitutional "precautions," The Federalist No. 51, no
    one controls the President. The hallmark of whether someone is an employee is
    the extent to which another controls him. See Restatement (Second) of Agency
    § 220(1) (Am. L. Inst. 1958); Restatement (Third) of Agency § 1.01 (Am. L. Inst.
    2006). And, as discussed further below, Congress surely did not have the
    President in mind when it passed the Westfall Act, a statute intended to protect
    low-level, rank-and-file government employees and not the chief executive of the
    country who was already absolutely immune from damages for official acts.
    Accordingly, in my view, the President is not an "employee of the
    Government" as the term is used in the FTCA. I would therefore hold that the
    FTCA does not apply to the President under the plain meaning of the statute and
    affirm the district court's order denying the motion to substitute on that basis
    alone. Moreover, if we were to reach the second issue, I would hold that at least
    3
    some of the statements here were not made within the scope of Trump's duties as
    President of the United States. I respectfully dissent.
    I.
    If Trump is an "employee of the Government" for FTCA purposes,
    he is not subject to Carroll's defamation suit, provided he was acting within the
    scope of his employment. If he is not an employee, he may be personally
    answerable. See Gutierrez de Martinez v. Lamagno, 
    515 U.S. 417
    , 423 (1995).
    I pay particular heed to the Supreme Court's admonition that courts
    should neither expand nor limit the scope of Congress's waiver of immunity. See
    Smith v. United States, 
    507 U.S. 197
    , 203 (1993); Cooke v. United States, 
    918 F.3d 77
    ,
    81 (2d Cir. 2019). A waiver of sovereign immunity must be "unequivocally
    expressed." United States v. Nordic Vill. Inc., 
    503 U.S. 30
    , 34 (1992); see United
    States v. Mitchell, 
    445 U.S. 535
    , 538 (1980). "[I]f Congress has not spoken or taken
    a position on a question through the language of the [FTCA], . . . the court should
    not, for to do so would be to legislate rather than to interpret." 1 Lester S. Jayson
    & Robert C. Longstreth, Handling Federal Tort Claims § 3.09 (2022 ed.). 1 Although
    "I seek to interpret the statute in ways that realize Congress's meanings and
    1    The House of Representatives relied on an earlier edition of this learned treatise
    when drafting the Westfall Act. See H.R. Rep. No. 100-700, at 5-6 (1988).
    4
    purposes to the best I can discern them," Robert A. Katzmann, Judging Statutes 91
    (2014), I will not read it to cover something not found in the statutory language.
    Accordingly, if the President does not reside within the plain meaning of
    "employee," as the term is used in the FTCA, then the question of whether the
    President is covered must be left to Congress.
    II.
    The FTCA and the Westfall Act are codified in scattered sections in
    titles 16 and 28 of the U.S. Code. 2 Through the FTCA, Congress granted the
    federal district courts exclusive jurisdiction over civil actions on claims against
    the United States "for injury or loss of property, or personal injury or death
    caused by the negligent or wrongful act or omission of any employee of the
    Government while acting within the scope of his office or employment." 
    28 U.S.C. § 1346
    (b)(1). "Employee of the Government" is defined to
    include[] (1) officers or employees of any federal agency, members of
    the military or naval forces of the United States, members of the
    National Guard while engaged in training or duty . . . , and persons
    acting on behalf of a federal agency in an official capacity,
    temporarily or permanently in the service of the United States,
    whether with or without compensation, and (2) any officer or
    employee of a Federal public defender organization, except when
    2      Section 831c-2 of title 16 concerns the Tennessee Valley Authority and is not
    pertinent here.
    5
    such officer or employee performs professional services in the course
    of providing representation under section 3006A of title 18.
    
    Id.
     § 2671 (entitled "Definitions"). "Federal agency," in turn, "includes the
    executive departments, the judicial and legislative branches, the military
    departments, independent establishments of the United States, and corporations
    primarily acting as instrumentalities or agencies of the United States, but does
    not include any contractor with the United States." Id.
    The provision of the FTCA commonly called the Westfall Act then
    provides the mechanism by which the United States becomes the party
    defendant in a tort case brought against a Government employee: the Attorney
    General may certify "that the defendant employee was acting within the scope of
    his office or employment at the time of the incident out of which the claim arose."
    Id. § 2679(d)(1)-(2). 3 Upon that certification, the United States is "substituted as
    the party defendant," id., and the action against the United States becomes the
    plaintiff's "exclusive" remedy, id. § 2679(b)(1).
    3      The Attorney General's certification is conclusive for purposes of removal but
    subject to judicial review for purposes of determining scope of employment. See 28
    § 2679(d)(2); Osborn v. Haley, 
    549 U.S. 225
    , 231 (2007); Gutierrez de Martinez, 
    515 U.S. at 434-35
    .
    6
    Finally, Congress enumerated claims for which the United States has
    not waived sovereign immunity. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2680
    (h) (entitled "Exceptions").
    As pertinent here, the exceptions include claims arising out of libel or slander.
    III.
    The issue before the Court is whether the term "any employee of the
    Government" encompasses the President. I believe it does not.
    "When interpreting a statutory provision, we begin with the
    language of the statute." Nwozuzu v. Holder, 
    726 F.3d 323
    , 327 (2d Cir. 2013). "We
    determine whether the statutory language is ambiguous by reference to the
    language itself, the specific context in which that language is used, and the
    broader context of the statute as a whole." Zepeda-Lopez v. Garland, 
    38 F.4th 315
    ,
    320 (2d Cir. 2022) (internal quotation marks omitted). "We consider not only the
    bare meaning of the critical word or phrase but also its placement and purpose in
    the statutory scheme." 
    Id.
     (internal quotation marks omitted).
    As an initial matter, the majority gives little weight to the work of
    the FTCA's definitional section, § 2671, which has been amended no fewer than
    six times since its enactment in 1948. See 
    Pub. L. No. 81-72,
     ch. 139, sec. 124,
    § 2671, 
    63 Stat. 89
    , 106 (1949); 
    Pub. L. No. 89-506, sec. 8
    , § 2671, 
    80 Stat. 306
    , 307
    7
    (1966); 
    Pub. L. No. 97-124, § 2671
    , 
    95 Stat. 166
    , 1666 (1981); 
    Pub. L. No. 100-694, 102
     Stat. 4563, 4563-67 (1988); 
    Pub. L. No. 106-398, sec. 665
    (b), § 2671, 
    114 Stat. 1654
    , 1654A-169 (2000); 
    Pub. L. No. 106-518, sec. 401
    , § 2671, 
    114 Stat. 2410
    , 2421
    (2000). The majority opines that § 2671 sets out an illustrative list of examples of
    people covered by the statute because the list is preceded by the word "includes."
    Maj. Op. at 23. It apparently then concludes that the examples have little bearing
    on the statute's compass, because it focuses next on the ordinary meaning of the
    term "employee" without further analyzing the detailed definitions set out in
    § 2671, save for one small point, discussed below. Maj. Op. at 26.
    In my view, the FTCA's definitional section bears some meaning. I
    agree that the examples are illustrative rather than exhaustive. In other words,
    the meaning of "employee of the Government" includes, but is not limited to,
    federal agency officers or employees, members of the armed forces, and public
    defenders. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    . But I disagree that our analysis of the definitions
    ends there. I would look to the words illuminating "employee of the
    Government" to "avoid ascribing to one word a meaning so broad that it is
    inconsistent with its accompanying words, thus giving unintended breadth to
    the Acts of Congress." Yates v. United States, 
    574 U.S. 528
    , 543 (2015); see United
    8
    States v. Williams, 
    553 U.S. 285
    , 294 (2008) ("[A] word is given more precise
    content by the neighboring words with which it is associated."). Accordingly, I
    begin the search for the President in the definitional section, § 2671, before
    turning to the catch-all, "any employee of the Government," see § 1346(b)(1).
    A.
    The President is not to be found in any of the detailed definitions
    provided by § 2671, which, as the majority observes, we are bound to follow.
    Maj. Op. at 20 (citing Tanzin v. Tanvir, 
    141 S. Ct. 486
    , 490 (2020)).
    The President is not an officer or employee of "any federal agency"
    as that term is defined in the statute. The majority correctly notes that the "one
    category of covered employees under § 2671 that may apply to the President" is
    "officers or employees" of "the executive departments." Maj. Op. at 22. But the
    President is not an officer or employee of "the executive departments." In title 28,
    "department" means one of the executive departments enumerated in 
    5 U.S.C. § 101
    , which in turn defines "Executive departments" as Cabinet-level agencies.
    See 
    28 U.S.C. § 451
    . 4 The President is not an officer or employee of the
    4      Section 451 of title 28 refers to "section 1 of Title 5," which is now codified at 
    5 U.S.C. § 101
    . See Hubbard v. United States, 
    514 U.S. 695
    , 700 (1995).
    9
    Department of State, the Department of the Treasury, or any of the other
    agencies listed in § 101. 5
    Trump and the Government argue that "executive departments"
    means, simply, the "executive branch." But this interpretation does not
    withstand scrutiny. First, the FTCA defines "Federal agency" as including,
    among other things, "the executive departments" and "the judicial and legislative
    branches." 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    . This is a meaningful variation, and we must respect
    Congress's decision to use "different terms to describe different categories of
    people or things." Mohamad v. Palestinian Auth., 
    566 U.S. 449
    , 456 (2012). Second,
    the phrase "judicial and legislative branches" was added by amendment decades
    later, see 
    Pub. L. No. 100-694, § 3
    , 
    102 Stat. 4563
    , 4564 (1988), reinforcing that
    Congress intended "executive departments" to be narrower than the entire
    executive branch. Third, if "executive departments" meant "executive branch,"
    then the term "military departments" would be superfluous because the
    executive branch encompasses the military departments. See U.S. Const. art. II;
    5      Although the Supreme Court has narrowly expanded the meaning of
    "departments" to include the Securities and Exchange Commission, an entity not
    enumerated, it expressly cabined that expansion to "the purposes of the Appointments
    Clause." Free Enter. Fund v. Pub. Co. Acct. Oversight Bd., 
    561 U.S. 477
    , 511 (2010). That
    case does not invite us to interpret § 101 as harboring the President.
    10
    see also Hibbs v. Winn, 
    542 U.S. 88
    , 101 (2004) ("A statute should be construed so
    that effect is given to all its provisions, so that no part will be inoperative or
    superfluous, void or insignificant."). And fourth, the amendment of the FTCA to
    include "military departments" would be meaningless if "executive departments"
    meant "executive branch." See Stone v. INS, 
    514 U.S. 386
    , 397 (1995) ("When
    Congress acts to amend a statute, we presume it intends its amendment to have
    real and substantial effect.").
    For these reasons, none of the definitions detailed in § 2671
    encompasses the President.
    B.
    Failing to find the President within § 2671's ambit, I turn to whether
    the President is "any employee of the Government." See 
    28 U.S.C. §§ 1346
    (b)(1),
    2679. I believe he (and, someday, she) is not, as the term is used in the FTCA.
    I start with the statute's text. See Zepeda-Lopez, 38 F.4th at 320. As
    the majority observed, the word "employee" had roughly the same meaning
    when the FTCA was enacted as it does today: "one who works for wages or
    salary in the service of an employer." Employee, Webster’s New International
    Dictionary of the English Language (2d ed. 1943); see Maj. Op. at 26-27. Here,
    11
    because the President works and receives a salary, the decisive element is
    whether he does so "in the service of an employer."
    I would look to well-established agency principles to determine
    whether the United States and the President have an employer-employee
    relationship. See United States v. Orleans, 
    425 U.S. 807
    , 815 (1976). In Orleans, to
    assess whether a community action agency was an employee or a contractor for
    FTCA purposes, the Supreme Court asked not whether the agency "receive[d]
    federal money and must comply with federal standards and regulations, but
    whether its day-to-day operations [were] supervised by the Federal
    Government." 
    Id.
     To use the archaic language of the Restatements, "the presence
    of those characteristics that traditionally determine the existence of the common-
    law relationship of master and servant will generally determine whether the
    wrongdoer is an employee of the Government for whose torts the United States
    must respond." 1 Jayson & Longstreth, supra, § 8.04. The Restatement (Second)
    of Agency defines a servant as follows: "A servant is a person employed to
    perform services in the affairs of another and who with respect to the physical
    conduct in the performance of the services is subject to the other's control or right
    of control." Restatement (Second) of Agency § 220(1); see also Restatement (Third)
    12
    of Agency § 1.01 ("[T]he agent shall act on the principal's behalf and subject to
    the principal's control.").
    Applying these principles, I conclude that the President is not an
    employee for FTCA purposes. To be clear, I would not hold that the President is
    a contractor instead of an employee -- rather, agency principles tell us that the
    nature of the President's constitutional role means that it does not "fit[]
    comfortably" within the FTCA's term "employee." But see Maj. Op. at 28.
    The President is in no respect the "servant" of a "master." Although
    he earns a salary, that point is extinguished by the FTCA's "with or without
    compensation" clause. 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    . No one exerts control over the
    President, and no one supervises the President's day-to-day operations. The
    President is a constitutional officer who occupies the highest office in the United
    States. And the only discipline or punishment a President may face is
    impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors. See U.S. Const. art. II, § 4. By
    contrast, when an employer opts to internalize costs flowing from an employee's
    tortious conduct, the employer has the authority to discipline the employee.
    Suppose a deli routinely pays a sum to customers who slip and fall, and a deli
    clerk routinely leaves a puddle of water on the deli floor after mopping. The deli
    13
    manager may give the clerk more definite instructions, reprimand him, and, if all
    else fails, fire him. The deli manager has recourse. Under the majority's holding,
    the United States would have no recourse against a golfing President who
    wallops one too many dignitaries. See Maj. Op. at 32 n.9. That the President
    cannot readily be punished by a supervisor indicates, to me, that Congress did
    not intend to include the President in the FTCA's compass when it moved to
    internalize costs.
    The majority examines the ordinary meaning of "employee" as the
    word was used in 1946. It consults contemporaneous dictionaries and finds that
    they suggest "payment of consideration and formal service to an employer were
    the hallmarks of an employee relationship at the time of the FTCA's enactment."
    Maj. Op. at 27. But it then finds that Congress must have intended the term
    "employee" to sweep more broadly because § 2671 includes "persons acting on
    behalf of a Federal agency . . . whether with or without compensation." Id.
    Accordingly, the majority holds, the President "fits comfortably" within the
    statute's plain language. Maj. Op. at 28. To me, the inferential step between
    "employee should be broadly construed" to "employee includes the President" is
    too great a leap.
    14
    As to "the specific context in which [the] language is used," Zepeda-
    Lopez, 38 F.4th at 321, and as discussed above, the FTCA's definitional section
    illuminates what Congress meant by "employee." 6 See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2671
    . The
    variation between "executive departments" and "legislative and judicial"
    branches is strong evidence that Congress did not intend "employee" to mean
    every single person receiving a salary and benefits from the Government in a
    literal sense. See Yates, 574 U.S. at 536 (holding that, in light of a statute's
    illustrative list, "tangible object" covers "only objects one can use to record or
    preserve information, not all objects in the physical world"). If "employee" were
    meant to sweep so broadly, Congress could have changed the term "executive
    departments" to "executive branch" in one of its many amendments, thereby
    embracing everyone in all three branches of our tripartite system. It did not do
    so, and we must respect that decision.
    This interpretation is also supported by "the broader context of the
    statute as a whole." Zepeda-Lopez, 38 F.4th at 322. In 1988, the Supreme Court
    6       As mentioned above, the majority does not analyze the definitions in § 2671 and
    instead concludes that the "focus of [its] inquiry" must rest on the ordinary meaning of
    "employee." Maj. Op. at 26. However, the majority cherry-picks the term "with or
    without compensation" from § 2671 when it wishes to broaden the dictionary definition
    of "employee." I would not be so selective and would let the entire definitional section
    clarify the term's meaning.
    15
    held that "federal employees" do not enjoy "absolute immunity from state-law
    tort actions." Westfall v. Erwin, 
    484 U.S. 292
    , 300 (1988). That same year,
    Congress enacted the Westfall Act "to address the potential liability of Federal
    employees" resulting from that decision. H.R. Rep. No. 100-700, at 2. In other
    words, Congress sought to restore federal employees to the status they had
    before the Westfall decision. But the Westfall decision had no effect on the
    potential liability of the President, who, as the Supreme Court held in 1981, is
    shielded by "absolute Presidential immunity from damages liability" for official
    acts. Nixon, 
    457 U.S. at 756
    . Accordingly, Congress had nothing to restore with
    respect to the President. There was no need for the Westfall Act to cover the
    President, for the President already had absolute immunity for actions taken
    within the scope of the presidency.
    The legislative history also reveals that the House of Representatives
    was particularly concerned with the Westfall decision's "severe" potential impact
    on "lower-level," "rank and file workers," who might face claims related to filing
    errors or misplaced electrical cords. H.R. Rep. No. 100-700, at 3. This highly
    specific purpose strongly suggests Congress did not have the President in mind.
    16
    Finally, to the extent the FTCA is silent as to whether the President is
    covered, I would not interpret that silence to cover the President. The Supreme
    Court determined that the Administrative Procedure Act did not apply to the
    President because "textual silence [was] not enough to subject the President" to
    the statute. Franklin v. Massachusetts, 
    505 U.S. 788
    , 801 (1992). Instead, the Court
    "would require an express statement by Congress" before applying the statute to
    the President. Id.; cf. Nixon, 
    457 U.S. at
    748 & n.27 (noting that Court would
    require "express legislative action" by Congress before assuming it meant to
    include President in certain federal statutes). I would require the same here.
    The text of the FTCA is "far from clear." Gutierrez de Martinez, 
    515 U.S. at 434
    . But under the authorities cited above, Congress must have made an
    "express" or "unequivocal" statement before I would conclude that the President's
    official acts are subject to judicial review, even if that review is urged by the
    United States. Congress does not hide Presidents in mouseholes. See Whitman v.
    Am. Trucking Ass’ns, 
    531 U.S. 457
    , 468 (2001). For all these reasons, I believe my
    reading of the statute is the better reading.
    17
    IV.
    Because I would hold that the FTCA does not apply to the President,
    I would not certify the scope-of-employment question to the D.C. Court of
    Appeals. Nevertheless, the issue merits a few words, in case the Court of
    Appeals chooses to answer the majority's call.
    I agree with the majority and the parties that the law of the District
    of Columbia applies. The majority thoroughly details the lack of clarity in the
    District's law with respect to whether it follows "the traditional, narrower, view
    of respondeat superior [or] the more modern, broader, internalization view." Maj.
    Op. at 54-55. See generally id. at 38-55. All that may be true but, assuming the
    President is an employee for FTCA purposes, there is no question that Trump
    was acting outside the scope of his employment when he made at least some of
    the alleged defamatory remarks about Carroll's accusations.
    The D.C. Court of Appeals applies agency principles to determine
    scope of employment. See, e.g., FDS Rest., Inc. v. All Plumbing Inc., 
    241 A.3d 222
    ,
    236-38 (D.C. 2020). In 2020, the court applied the Third Restatement to "clarify
    principles of agency law," see 
    id.,
     and so that is what I reference here. The
    Restatement (Third) of Agency provides, in pertinent part, that "[a]n employee's
    18
    act is not within the scope of employment when it occurs within an independent
    course of conduct not intended by the employee to serve any purpose of the
    employer." Restatement (Third) of Agency § 7.07.
    Trump was not acting in the scope of his employment when he
    made comments about Carroll and her accusations because he was not serving
    any purpose of the federal government. Carroll alleges that Trump knew who
    she was when he raped her; knew in June 2019 that he had assaulted her and that
    his denials were false; deliberately lied, or spoke with no concern for the truth, in
    accusing her of fabricating the accusation as part of a political conspiracy, a plot
    to increase book sales, or in exchange for payment; deliberately lied, or spoke
    with no concern for the truth, in charging that Carroll had falsely accused other
    men of sexual assault; and made these comments because they were part of his
    "playbook" of public response to credible reports that he had assaulted women.
    In the context of an accusation of rape, the comment "she's not my type" surely is
    not something one would expect the President of the United States to say in the
    course of his duties. Carroll's allegations plausibly paint a picture of a man
    pursuing a personal vendetta against an accuser, not the United States' "chief
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    constitutional officer" engaging in "supervisory and policy responsibilities of
    utmost discretion and sensitivity." Nixon, 
    457 U.S. at 751
    .
    Despite its denial at oral argument, see Tr. at 3:9-11, the Government
    essentially urges adoption of a categorical rule: the President acts within the
    scope of employment whenever he "respond[s] to questions from the media on
    matters of public concern" and "to public critics." Gov't Brief at 33. Under this
    logic, so long as a President looks like he is engaged in conduct that is of the kind
    he is expected to perform -- like speaking to a reporter or attending a
    government meeting -- he is acting in the scope of his employment. But if that
    were so, then the mere presence of others would neutralize whatever a President
    did or said, for no President could be held accountable for damage done in front
    of a microphone or in an official meeting -- whether defaming a citizen, exposing
    classified national security information, or inciting a riot. This is not, and should
    not be, the law.
    *****
    The district court correctly denied the Government's motion to
    substitute because the President is not covered by the FTCA. I dissent.
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