United States v. James Rought ( 2021 )


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    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    _____________
    No. 20-2667
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    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    v.
    JAMES EUGENE ROUGHT,
    Appellant
    _____________
    On Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Middle District of Pennsylvania
    (D.C. Criminal No. 3-18-cr-00353)
    District Judge: Honorable Malachy E. Mannion
    _____________
    Argued: June 24, 2021
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    Before: CHAGARES, PORTER, and ROTH, Circuit Judges
    (Filed: August 24, 2021)
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    Ronald A. Krauss [ARGUED]
    Quin M. Sorenson
    Office of the Federal Public Defender
    100 Chestnut Street
    Suite 306
    Harrisburg, PA 17101
    Counsel for Appellant
    Bruce D. Brandler, Acting United States Attorney
    Stephen R. Cerutti II, Assistant United States Attorney
    [ARGUED]
    Office of United States Attorney
    228 Walnut Street, P.O. Box 11754
    Federal Building and Courthouse, Suite 220
    Harrisburg, PA 17108
    Michelle L. Olshefski, Assistant United States Attorney
    Office of United States Attorney
    235 North Washington Avenue
    P.O. Box 309, Suite 311
    Scranton, PA 18503
    Counsel for Appellee
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    OPINION OF THE COURT
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    CHAGARES, Circuit Judge.
    Defendant James Eugene Rought sold fentanyl to Dana
    Carichner, who provided some to Cara Giberson. Both
    overdosed. Giberson was revived with Narcan; Carichner
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    died. Rought was indicted for possession of fentanyl with
    intent to distribute resulting in death and serious bodily injury.
    A few days later, he was interrogated by the FBI. After being
    advised of his rights verbally and in writing, he answered
    questions about his drug use and his supplier, but said he did
    not want to talk about Carichner’s death without a lawyer. The
    interrogating agents respected his wishes and turned the
    questioning to other subjects. In discussing those other
    subjects, however, Rought quickly brought the conversation
    back around to Carichner — and then made incriminating
    statements. Rought moved to suppress the statements he made
    to the FBI after he invoked his right to counsel. The District
    Court denied the motion, the statements were used against
    Rought at trial, and a jury convicted him. Rought now appeals,
    arguing that the court erred in denying his suppression motion
    and that he should receive a new trial in which the
    incriminating statements would not be admissible.
    We will affirm. In Connecticut v. Barrett, 
    479 U.S. 523
    (1987), the Supreme Court held that invocations of the right to
    counsel during custodial interrogations can be “limited.” 
    Id. at 529-30
    . After a limited invocation, interrogation can continue
    on topics not covered by the invocation. If the suspect, without
    prompting from law enforcement, then voluntarily reinitiates
    discussion of a covered topic and waives her previously
    invoked rights, it “is quite consistent with the Fifth
    Amendment” for the suspect’s statements about a covered
    topic to be admissible at trial. 
    Id. at 529
    . Because that is what
    happened in this case, the District Court correctly denied
    Rought’s suppression motion, and he is not entitled to a new
    trial.
    I.
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    Rought sold fentanyl to Carichner on August 13, 2018.
    Giberson was there and witnessed the transaction. On August
    15, Giberson asked Carichner to get her some fentanyl from his
    source. Rought again sold fentanyl to Carichner on August 16,
    and the two of them used drugs together. That evening,
    Carichner delivered some of the fentanyl he acquired from
    Rought to Giberson at the Blogg, the restaurant where she
    worked, leaving it for her in her car. Carichner went home.
    After midnight, Giberson overdosed on fentanyl in the
    bathroom of the Blogg, but was revived with Narcan.
    Carichner died of a fentanyl overdose at home and in bed
    sometime after 2:00 a.m.
    Law enforcement connected the overdoses to Rought.
    He was charged on October 16, 2018, in a one count indictment
    with distributing and possessing fentanyl with intent to
    distribute resulting in serious bodily injury and death. Three
    days later, Rought was interrogated for approximately one hour
    by Special Agent Larry Whitehead and Task Force Officer
    Shane Yelland of the FBI. The interrogation, which was
    videotaped and is the focus of this appeal, took place in an FBI
    interview room at the Scranton federal courthouse immediately
    prior to Rought’s initial appearance on the federal charge.
    Rought was already in custody for state parole violations at the
    time of the interrogation.
    At the outset, Whitehead confirmed that Rought had
    been arrested in the past and informed him of his Miranda
    rights. Whitehead also provided Rought with a written consent
    form describing his rights and gave Rought an opportunity to
    read it. Asked if he was willing to talk, Rought responded that
    he was, “to a point.” Whitehead emphasized that Rought could
    “stop at any time,” and that “those are the ground rules.”
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    Rought then signed the consent form, which among other
    things provided that Rought was willing to answer questions
    without a lawyer present.
    For the next twenty-four minutes, Rought answered
    questions about his drug use, his drug supplier, his criminal
    history, and his relationship with Carichner, among other
    topics. Rought insisted that he was not a drug dealer. He
    believed that “the situation at hand is completely blown out of
    proportion” and noted that he and Carichner worked together
    and “got high together every day.” He insisted again that he
    did not sell drugs to Carichner. Rought explained that
    Carichner was his “best friend” and that they had grown up
    together. Whitehead told Rought the interview was about
    understanding “both sides” of what happened, because law
    enforcement only had one side of the story so far. Rought
    responded that “really you don’t know any side” because
    Giberson (who claimed to have seen Rought sell drugs to
    Carichner and whose name was “on the paperwork”) “wasn’t
    even there” and Rought “couldn’t even tell you what this chick
    looked like.” Whitehead commented that “a tragedy resulted
    from your actions . . . and not just yours. . . . this is what’s
    going on daily in the community.”
    Whitehead told Rought that the federal criminal justice
    system can be “unforgiving” for violent crimes, but that it
    “rewards cooperation,” and that the FBI was interested in
    Rought’s suppliers. Rought explained that his primary supplier
    went by “L.B.” and that Rought would buy from him in
    Wilkes-Barre. If L.B. was unavailable, Rought would connect
    with other “random” suppliers in the area in order to meet the
    needs of his addiction — three or four bundles of fentanyl per
    day at that point. Rought explained that he would buy a brick
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    of fentanyl from L.B. in order to get bulk pricing, and then
    “split it” with the people he got high with, including Carichner.
    Because he worked with Carichner “every day . . . most days
    we would split it.” Rought also said that the quality of the
    drugs was “really good since somebody died.” Whitehead
    asked Rought “why fentanyl?” Rought explained that it was
    “what we wanted” because, at that time, state parole drug tests
    did not test for fentanyl. Rought told Whitehead that L.B. was
    always on the lookout for guns, and would trade drugs for guns.
    One person who traded guns to L.B. was Stan Derby, a friend
    of Rought’s that died of an overdose, “probably” from drugs
    he acquired from L.B.
    Rought and Whitehead discussed how Wilkes-Barre
    was a “cesspool” of drug dealing and how society is “plagued”
    by drugs and addiction.         Whitehead emphasized his
    understanding that addiction is a difficult lifestyle to escape
    and brought up drug rehabilitation programs with Rought.
    Rought said he was once able to stop using drugs for a week
    after coming home from a five-day detox program, but began
    using them again because many of the people around him were
    using drugs, including Carichner.
    About twenty-four minutes into the interrogation, after
    Rought mentioned Carichner’s drug use, Whitehead asked, “So
    let’s talk about Dana [Carichner]. What happened there?”
    Rought replied, “I mean, I don’t really want to talk about that
    aspect without my lawyer. . . . That’s a serious situation. I
    mean, they’re trying to roof me.” 1 Whitehead immediately
    responded that he understood and that “those are the ground
    There is no dispute that, as used here, to “roof”
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    someone means to put that person in prison for a long time.
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    rules. . . . That’s your right, and I respect that.”
    Whitehead then turned the conversation back to L.B.
    and reiterated that he was interested in the people “above”
    Rought. He explained that people “caught in a bad spot,” like
    Rought, could help themselves and also help law enforcement
    “clean up the community.” Whitehead then referenced
    Rought’s previous comment that his friend Stan Derby had
    overdosed. That prompted Rought to acknowledge the toll that
    drug addiction had taken on those around him, including the
    lives of several friends and acquaintances who died of
    overdoses; Rought said “you’re not losing the effect on me.”
    Whitehead responded that he understood that toll and reiterated
    that he wanted Rought to share information that would help
    law enforcement in “going up the ladder” after L.B. and
    “whoever else there is.”
    In response, and just a few minutes after invoking his
    right to counsel, Rought stated that he did not like addiction
    any more than Whitehead and that drug dealers are “killing my
    friends just as much as, right now, you’re trying to say that I
    killed my friend [Carichner].” Whitehead responded that he
    was not saying that Rought killed Carichner but that Rought
    “had a role and that’s unfortunate, it is.” He noted that Rought
    must “feel like shit” about Carichner’s death, to which Rought
    responded, “Absolutely.” Whitehead informed Rought that he
    did not believe Rought had “intent or malice” and that
    Carichner’s death was an “unfortunate tragedy.” Rought then
    expressed anger about how he was being treated like a drug
    dealer when he did not sell drugs. He asked “[j]ust because
    somebody that I worked with also got high and we got high
    together . . . how is that a crime? . . . [H]ow am I being charged
    with serious bodily injury [and] death?” Rought expressed
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    incredulity that “the same dope that he snorted a bag of and
    died, I shot ten bags of right next to him.” He also explained
    that he initially did not believe that Carichner had overdosed
    because it did not make sense that Carichner “got high, drove
    all the way home, 25-30 minutes, and then got into bed, and
    then died.”
    Whitehead commented that “we have to work through
    this . . . . The three of us, the prosecutor, and your attorney. . .
    . This is set in motion.” He acknowledged that Rought was in
    a “shitty situation.” Rought said he recognized that fact as soon
    as he learned “that I got . . . a fed case on Facebook.” Yelland
    then steered the conversation back to L.B. by asking if L.B.
    used Facebook. The remainder of the interrogation focused on
    L.B. At one point, Whitehead offered to question Rought
    about L.B. with a lawyer present. Rought did not express
    interest in this suggestion, and continued answering questions
    about L.B. until he was brought before the District Court for
    his initial appearance.
    In May 2019, Rought moved to suppress his post-
    invocation statements on the ground that they were obtained in
    violation of Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
     (1966). The
    Government filed a superseding indictment against Rought the
    following month; it added one count of conspiracy to possess
    fentanyl with intent to distribute and one count of aiding and
    abetting the distribution of fentanyl. Rought pleaded not guilty
    to all three counts. The District Court denied Rought’s
    suppression motion, concluding that Rought’s invocation of
    the right to counsel was limited to the circumstances of
    Carichner’s death, that law enforcement “should [not] have
    reasonably anticipated” that discussing L.B. and Derby’s
    overdose would prompt Rought to “renew discussions about”
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    Carichner, and that Rought knowingly and voluntarily waived
    his right not to speak about Carichner without a lawyer present.
    Appendix (“App.”) 97-99.
    At trial, the Government made frequent use of Rought’s
    post-invocation statements. The Government, for instance,
    told the jury in its opening statement that they would “actually
    hear the defendant admitting to . . . drug dealing.” App. 190.
    Among other uses, the video of the interrogation was played
    during Agent Whitehead’s testimony, and the Government’s
    closing arguments referred back to Rought’s statements. The
    jury convicted Rought on all counts, and he was sentenced to
    360 months in prison. Rought timely appealed.
    II.
    The District Court had jurisdiction under 
    18 U.S.C. § 3231
    , and we have appellate jurisdiction under 
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
    . We review the denial of a motion to suppress for clear
    error as to the facts that the District Court found and exercise
    plenary review over the application of law to those facts.
    United States v. Davis, 
    726 F.3d 434
    , 439 (3d Cir. 2013).
    III.
    Rought argues that the District Court erred in denying
    his motion to suppress for three reasons. First, Rought argues
    that his invocation of the right to counsel was not limited to the
    circumstances of Carichner’s death but was instead without
    limitation and that law enforcement was therefore required to
    cease interrogation entirely under Edwards v. Arizona, 
    451 U.S. 477
     (1981). Second, Rought argues that after he invoked
    his right to counsel, he did not initiate the post-invocation
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    discussion about Carichner. Third, Rought argues that any
    post-invocation waiver of the right to counsel was not knowing
    and intelligent because he was not “fully aware” of the
    potential consequences, including the risk — which came to
    pass — that he was opening himself up to conspiracy charges.
    Rought Br. 26. We will below elucidate the relevant legal
    principles, and then consider Rought’s arguments in light of
    those principles.
    A.
    The Fifth Amendment provides that “No person . . .
    shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against
    himself.” U.S. Const. amend. V. To safeguard this right, the
    Supreme Court in Miranda “imposed certain obligations on
    police in custodial interrogations, in order to dissipate the
    ‘compelling pressures which work to undermine the
    individual’s will to resist and to compel him to speak where he
    would not otherwise do so freely.’” United States v.
    Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d 1076
    , 1084 (3d Cir. 1989) (quoting
    Miranda, 
    384 U.S. at 467
    ). The familiar Miranda warnings
    require police to “inform the suspect of his right to remain
    silent and his right to have counsel present during
    interrogation, as well as their intent to use his statements to
    secure a conviction.” 
    Id.
     Police must also “cease the
    interrogation if at any point the suspect indicates that he wishes
    to remain silent or that he wants an attorney.” 
    Id.
    In Edwards, the Supreme Court established a bright-line
    rule for suspects who have invoked the right to counsel: “an
    accused person in custody who has invoked his desire not to
    speak until he has conferred with counsel ‘is not subject to
    further interrogation . . . until counsel has been made available
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    to him, unless the accused himself initiates further
    communication, exchanges, or conversations with the police.’”
    
    Id.
     (quoting Edwards, 
    451 U.S. at 484-85
    ). If a suspect who
    has invoked the right to counsel but not yet met with counsel
    initiates discussion with the authorities, further interrogation 2
    can take place. Id. at 1084, 1087. Post-invocation statements
    made during that interrogation may then be admissible against
    the suspect at trial if the suspect knowingly and voluntarily
    waives the right to counsel and the right to remain silent. Id.;
    see also Oregon v. Bradshaw, 
    462 U.S. 1039
    , 1045-46 (1983)
    (plurality opinion); Edwards, 
    451 U.S. at
    486 n.9.
    In Bradshaw, the Court split 4-4 on what it means for a
    suspect to “initiate” discussion following an invocation of the
    right to counsel. The plurality held that the suspect in the case
    before it initiated discussion where his question — “Well, what
    is going to happen to me now?” — “evinced a willingness and
    a desire for a generalized discussion about the investigation.”
    
    462 U.S. at 1045-46
    . The dissenters would have held that
    initiation requires “communication or dialogue about the
    subject matter of the criminal investigation.” 
    Id. at 1053
    (Marshall, J., dissenting) (emphasis omitted). In Velasquez,
    this Court adopted the Bradshaw plurality’s test for initiation,
    holding “that an initiation occurs when a suspect initiates a
    conversation evincing a willingness and a desire for a
    2
    Under Miranda, “the term ‘interrogation’ . . . refers not
    only to express questioning, but also to any words or actions
    on the part of the police (other than those normally attendant
    to arrest and custody) that the police should know are
    reasonably likely to elicit an incriminating response from the
    suspect.” Rhode Island v. Innis, 
    446 U.S. 291
    , 301 (1980)
    (footnote omitted).
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    generalized discussion about the investigation.” 
    885 F.2d at 1085
     (cleaned up). Initiation and waiver are distinct analytical
    steps; initiation by itself is not adequate to find a waiver. 
    Id. at 1087
    .
    A waiver of the Miranda rights must be voluntary,
    knowing, and intelligent considering the totality of the
    circumstances. 
    Id.
     at 1086 (citing Miranda, 
    384 U.S. at 444
    ).
    A waiver is voluntary if “it was the product of a free and
    deliberate choice rather than intimidation, coercion, or
    deception.” Colorado v. Spring, 
    479 U.S. 564
    , 573 (1987)
    (quoting Moran v. Burbine, 
    475 U.S. 412
    , 421 (1986)). In the
    voluntariness inquiry, “[a] suspect’s background and
    experience, including prior dealings with the criminal justice
    system, should be taken into account.” United States v. Jacobs,
    
    431 F.3d 99
    , 108 (3d Cir. 2005). A waiver is knowing and
    intelligent if “made with a full awareness both of the nature of
    the right being abandoned and the consequences of the decision
    to abandon it.” Spring, 
    479 U.S. at 573
     (quoting Burbine, 
    475 U.S. at 421
    ); see also Berghuis v. Thompkins, 
    560 U.S. 370
    ,
    382-83 (2010). If the Government “shows that a Miranda
    warning was given and that it was understood by the accused,
    an accused’s uncoerced statement establishes an implied
    waiver of the right to remain silent.” Berghuis, 
    560 U.S. at 384
    .
    In sum, then, a suspect who has invoked the right to
    counsel and has not yet met with counsel is generally not
    subject to further interrogation unless the suspect initiates
    discussion with law enforcement. Once there has been an
    initiation, further interrogation can take place, and the
    suspect’s statements may be admissible against him at trial if
    he validly waives the right to remain silent and the right to
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    counsel. See Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d at 1084-89
    .
    Or at least, these are the principles that generally apply
    after a suspect invokes the right to counsel “for all purposes.”
    Barrett, 
    479 U.S. at 530
    . A key premise of the decisions
    discussed above is that a suspect’s invocation of the right to
    counsel reflects a “desire to deal with the police only through
    counsel.” Edwards, 
    451 U.S. at 484
    . The Supreme Court
    recognized in Barrett, however, that not all invocations reflect
    such a desire. The defendant in Barrett refused “to put
    anything in writing until his attorney came,” but was willing to
    offer an oral confession despite knowing that police planned to
    record it on tape. 479 U.S. at 525-26. The Court held that
    Barrett’s oral statements were admissible, reasoning that
    nothing “requires authorities to ignore the tenor or sense of a
    defendant’s response to [Miranda] warnings.” Id. at 528. If
    police had obtained a written statement without complying
    with Edwards, it would “clearly” have been inadmissible, but
    it was “quite consistent with the Fifth Amendment” for law
    enforcement to make use of “the opportunity provided by
    Barrett to obtain an oral confession.” Id. at 529.
    The invocation in Barrett was limited by the mode of
    the suspect’s communications: written statements were within
    the invocation while oral statements were not. But the Court’s
    reasoning in Barrett is not limited to mode. It applies with
    equal force to invocations limited by topic or subject matter,
    and we now hold that suspects can limit their invocations of
    the right to counsel in this manner. 3 Numerous federal and
    3
    We caution, however, that the Barrett decision creates
    only a narrow exception to the Edwards rule, and that it is
    appropriate to give ambiguous invocations of the right to
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    state courts have likewise relied on the Barrett decision to find
    that an invocation was limited by topic or subject matter. See,
    e.g., United States v. Oba, 
    978 F.2d 1123
    , 1130 (9th Cir. 1992)
    (concluding that invocation was limited to advice of counsel
    concerning effect of x-ray consent form on potential civil
    action); United States v. Ivy, 
    929 F.2d 147
    , 152-53 (5th Cir.
    1991) (determining that invocation was limited to questions
    about where defendant obtained materials to make a bomb);
    United States v. Conner, 
    946 F.2d 896
    , 
    1991 WL 213756
    , at
    *1-2 (6th Cir. 1991) (affirming finding that invocation was
    limited to “narcotics activity” and did not cover other
    investigative topics); United States v. Mikelic, No. 3:10-cr-
    132, 
    2011 WL 4368565
    , at *11 (D. Conn. Sept. 19, 2011)
    (“Mikelic only stated that he wanted to speak with his lawyer
    with respect to certain questions . . . . Thus, it did not violate
    the Fifth Amendment for [law enforcement] to continue
    questioning Mikelic following Mikelic’s limited invocation of
    his right to counsel.”); People v. Adams, 
    627 N.W.2d 623
    , 628
    (Mich. Ct. App. 2001) (“Because defendant only declined to
    answer some questions regarding a few limited topics and only
    asserted a need for counsel with respect to questions regarding
    motive . . . the police detective was permitted to continue
    interviewing defendant regarding other matters pertaining to
    the . . . murder.”); State v. Brennan, 
    850 P.2d 202
    , 206 (Idaho
    Ct. App. 1993) (affirming the trial court’s denial of a
    suppression motion when the defendant refused to discuss “the
    events of the night of June 19” with the police but agreed to
    discuss “related background events”); see generally 2 Wayne
    R. LaFave et al., Crim. Proc. § 6.9(g) (4th ed., Dec. 2020
    update) (“It is possible that the defendant’s invocation of his
    counsel “a broad, rather than a narrow, interpretation.” Barrett,
    
    479 U.S. at 529
    .
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    right to counsel will be limited in some way, in which case
    application of the Edwards rule is limited to the same extent,
    as the Supreme Court concluded in Connecticut v. Barrett.”).
    Rought’s brief acknowledges that invocations can be limited in
    scope, as Rought’s counsel conceded at oral argument. 4
    There is scant authority, however, addressing the
    interaction between the Barrett and Bradshaw decisions — that
    4
    The dissent contends that Barrett does not justify
    “holding that police may continue questioning a suspect after
    he has invoked his right to counsel on a topic that is germane
    to their investigation.” Dissenting Op. 9. This contention is
    refuted by the Barrett decision itself: after the suspect there
    invoked his right to counsel as to written statements, law
    enforcement continued to question him about the very same
    investigation and secured an oral confession, which the Court
    held admissible. 479 U.S. at 525, 529.
    The dissent counters that “Barrett’s invocation as to
    written statements is not analogous to a topic-specific
    invocation” because “Barrett’s invocation did not suggest that
    he felt unable to handle the pressures of interrogation on any
    topic.” Dissenting Op. 9–10. This account of Barrett is
    implausible. The Court’s opinion offers no basis for
    distinguishing between limited invocations that suggest an
    inability to “handle the pressures of interrogation on any topic”
    and those that do not. To the contrary, the Court distinguished
    between invocations that are “limited” and those that are
    “effective for all purposes,” with the scope of the former to be
    discerned by the “tenor or sense of a defendant’s response” to
    the Miranda warnings, and not some gestalt impression of a
    suspect’s fortitude under questioning, as the dissent would
    have it. 479 U.S. at 528-30.
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    is, between limited invocations and post-invocation initiations.
    It is clear that if law enforcement unilaterally seeks to obtain
    statements from a suspect about matters within the scope of a
    limited invocation, those statements would be inadmissible.
    See Barrett, 
    479 U.S. at 529
    . But when can law enforcement
    resume interrogation on a topic covered by a limited
    invocation? And what qualifies as an “initiation” on a covered
    topic following a limited invocation?
    As an initial matter, it cannot be the case, as Rought
    asserts, that a complete cessation of all interrogation is required
    before law enforcement can resume interrogation on a covered
    topic. That would be inconsistent with the Barrett decision,
    which counsels that interrogation can continue as to matters
    outside the scope of a limited invocation. Instead, it is
    sufficient if law enforcement respects the suspect’s wishes and
    ceases interrogation concerning any topic covered by a limited
    invocation. This means no more questions not only about the
    covered topic, but also about any topics “that the police should
    know are reasonably likely to elicit an incriminating response
    from the suspect” about the covered topic. Innis, 
    446 U.S. at 301
     (footnote omitted).
    Assuming that law enforcement has ceased
    interrogation about the covered topic, we agree with the
    Government that as a practical matter, a suspect’s post-
    invocation “initiation” must mean something like bringing “the
    subject back up.” Gov’t Br. 26; see also Oba, 
    978 F.2d at 1130
    (concluding there was no Edwards violation where suspect
    “initiated further discussion” concerning the topic covered by
    his limited invocation). Following Bradshaw and Velasquez,
    we hold that after a limited invocation, “an initiation occurs
    when a suspect initiates a [line of discussion that] evinc[es] a
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    willingness and a desire for a generalized discussion about the
    [covered topic].” Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d at 1085
    . And we agree
    with the District Court that it is important for the suspect to
    bring the covered topic back up without undue prompting from
    law enforcement. See App. 97 (“[L]aw enforcement did not
    prompt Rought’s return to the subject of Mr. Carichner”). As
    noted above, then, there is no “initiation” on a covered topic if
    the suspect is responding to “words or actions on the part of the
    police . . . that the police should know are reasonably likely to
    elicit an incriminating response from the suspect” concerning
    the covered topic. Innis, 
    446 U.S. at 301
     (footnoted omitted);
    cf. Edwards, 
    451 U.S. at 484
     (“[A] valid waiver of th[e] right
    [to counsel] cannot be established by showing only that [a
    suspect] responded to further police-initiated custodial
    interrogation even if he has been advised of his rights.”). 5 That
    is, there is no “initiation” by the suspect if the suspect is
    responding to interrogation that law enforcement should know
    is reasonably likely to elicit a response on the covered topic. 6
    In sum, if a suspect makes a limited invocation of the
    5
    There may be other circumstances in which law
    enforcement unduly prompts a suspect to initiate a post-
    invocation discussion of a topic covered by a limited
    invocation short of interrogation, but they are not before us,
    and we need not consider them. Likewise, we need not
    consider whether law enforcement must re-inform a suspect of
    his Miranda rights before resuming interrogation on a covered
    topic following an initiation — though doing so would likely
    minimize doubt that a suspect’s waiver is voluntary, knowing,
    and intelligent.
    6
    The dissent’s suggestion that today’s decision creates
    a “gotcha game” because interrogators “can try to induce [a
    17
    right to counsel, the Edwards rule is limited to the same extent.
    See 2 LaFave, supra, Crim. Proc. § 6.9(g). Law enforcement
    must honor the suspect’s request and cease interrogation
    concerning any topics covered by the invocation. If the suspect
    then initiates discussion of covered topics without prompting
    from law enforcement, interrogation can resume as to those
    topics. If the suspect validly waives the right to silence and the
    previously invoked right to counsel, then the suspect’s
    statements on the covered topic may be admissible at trial.
    B.
    We now evaluate Rought’s arguments in light of these
    legal principles.
    1.
    Rought first argues that his invocation of the right to
    counsel was not limited to the circumstances of Carichner’s
    death but was “for all purposes,” and that law enforcement was
    therefore required to cease interrogation entirely under
    Edwards. We disagree.
    Whitehead properly informed Rought of his Miranda
    rights at the outset of the interrogation. Rought said he was
    willing to talk “to a point.” Rought proceeded to discuss a
    variety of topics, including his addiction, his fentanyl source,
    suspect] to talk about the very topic that he has said he does
    not want to discuss,” see Dissenting Op. 1, is thus misplaced.
    If interrogators do so, the suspect will not have re-initiated and
    the Edwards rule will still be in effect as to any topics covered
    by the invocation.
    18
    his relationship with Carichner, and his criminal history. It was
    only when Whitehead said, “So let’s talk about Dana. What
    happened there?” that Rought responded, “I don’t really want
    to talk about that aspect without my lawyer. . . . That’s a serious
    situation. I mean, they’re trying to roof me.”
    In context, it is plain that “that aspect” refers to the
    circumstances of Carichner’s death. Rought had previous
    experience with the criminal justice system, understood his
    Miranda rights, and openly spoke about other facets of his own
    criminal conduct. He had just been indicted for possession
    with intent to distribute resulting in serious bodily injury and
    death — a charge likely to result in a long prison sentence.
    Given this context and the course of the interrogation up to the
    point of Rought’s invocation, “that aspect” is most naturally
    understood to refer to Carichner’s death — a “serious
    situation” that could result in Rought getting “roofed,” and
    distinct from the subjects Rought had been discussing up to
    that point.
    Rought argues that his invocation was not so limited,
    and that “‘that aspect’ could mean only one thing: any matter
    relating to the circumstances of Carichner’s death, including
    Rought’s involvement in drug dealing in general.” Rought Br.
    22. Alternatively, he argues that his invocation was ambiguous
    and should be construed broadly. Again, we disagree, and the
    District Court’s determinations to the contrary were not clearly
    erroneous. It is not plausible that by refusing to discuss “that
    aspect” of the case without a lawyer, Rought was actually
    expressing “his desire to deal with the police only through
    counsel.” Edwards, 
    451 U.S. at 484
     (emphasis added). To
    accept Rought’s argument would require “a disregard of the
    ordinary meaning of [his] statement.” Barrett, 
    479 U.S. at 530
    .
    19
    In context, the limited nature of Rought’s invocation is not
    ambiguous. Cf. In re Friedman’s Inc., 
    738 F.3d 547
    , 554 (3d
    Cir. 2013) (noting that ambiguity must be evaluated in light of
    overall context).
    Rought further argues that it would “belie[] common
    sense” to find that he “was sufficiently astute and calm” to
    make only a limited invocation, and that it is “perverse” to
    penalize a suspect who “happens to be too garrulous for his
    own good” because his lawyer has not yet arrived. Rought Br.
    22-23. These arguments are beside the point. The Supreme
    Court has made clear that Miranda protects a suspect’s choice
    to speak or not, and that if the warnings are understood, it is of
    no moment “that some might find [Rought’s] decision
    illogical.” Barrett, 479 U.S. at 529-30.
    We therefore conclude that there was no clear error in
    the District Court’s determination that Rought’s “invocation of
    the right to counsel was limited and not broad in nature,” and
    that he “left all other subjects open to questioning.” App. 97.
    2.
    Rought next argues that he did not initiate the post-
    invocation discussion of Carichner’s death. He asserts initially
    that there cannot be a post-invocation initiation if “the
    interrogation never ceases.” Rought Br. 23. We reject this
    argument for reasons already given — the teaching of Barrett
    is that interrogation need not cease entirely following a limited
    invocation, but can continue as to matters not covered by the
    invocation.
    After Rought’s invocation, Whitehead responded that
    20
    he respected Rought’s right, and refocused the interrogation on
    Rought’s drug supplier, L.B. In an effort to persuade Rought
    to cooperate in pursuing L.B., Whitehead emphasized the harm
    that drug addiction and drug dealers visit on the community,
    and mentioned the overdose of Rought’s friend Stan Derby,
    another addict who bought from L.B. Whitehead asked for
    information that would help in “going up the ladder” after L.B.
    and others like him. Whitehead’s comments prompted Rought
    to state that drug dealers are “killing my friends just as much
    as, right now, you’re trying to say that I killed” Carichner. We
    hold that when Rought made this statement, he initiated
    discussion on Carichner’s death and thereby opened himself up
    to further interrogation on that subject. His voluntary return to
    the subject of his then-alleged role in Carichner’s death
    evinced a willingness for a generalized discussion about the
    issue. See Bradshaw, 
    462 U.S. at 1045-46
     (plurality opinion)
    (concluding that respondent initiated post-invocation by
    asking, “Well, what is going to happen to me now?”);
    Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d at 1085
     (holding that defendant initiated
    post-invocation by asking, “What is going to happen?”).
    Rought argues that Whitehead’s comments following
    Rought’s invocation about Derby’s overdose and going after
    L.B. were intended “to elicit Rought’s verbal response” about
    Carichner, in order “to create a record that might support a
    finding of post-invocation initiating.” Rought Br. 24. As a
    general matter, we acknowledge that it is not totally
    unforeseeable that an appeal to Rought’s conscience and a
    reference to Derby’s overdose could lead Rought to discuss
    Carichner’s overdose.
    But on this record, we agree with the District Court that
    “[t]he question[s] about L.B. and Mr. Derby [concerned]
    21
    subjects distinct from . . . the circumstances surrounding Mr.
    Carichner and [were] not ones that law enforcement should
    have reasonably anticipated would prompt Rought to renew
    discussions about Mr. Carichner.” App. 97. Much of the
    interrogation up to that point was focused on gathering
    information about L.B. and discussing the deleterious effects
    of drug addiction and drug dealing. Rought had been willing
    to discuss those issues, but then carved out Carichner’s death
    as a forbidden topic. An agent in Whitehead’s position could
    reasonably have expected that Rought would continue to
    differentiate among the distinct issues in the interrogation,
    notwithstanding some overlap in subject matter. 7 Likewise, an
    agent in Whitehead’s position could reasonably have expected
    that his request for Rought’s help in going after L.B. would not
    prompt Rought to bring Carichner back up shortly after Rought
    indicated that he did not want to discuss Carichner. We do not
    think it justifiable, given this context, to charge Whitehead
    with the knowledge that his comments may have elicited a
    response from Rought about Carichner’s death. See Innis, 
    446 U.S. at 301
     (holding that interrogation includes “words or
    actions on the part of the police . . . that the police should know
    7
    The dissent’s argument that Carichner’s death,
    Derby’s death, and the effects of drugs on the community were
    all part of one big topic of conversation is belied by the record.
    Rought and his interrogators differentiated between these
    subjects, the District Court accordingly found that they were
    “distinct,” and that finding was not clearly erroneous. App. 97.
    22
    are reasonably likely to elicit an incriminating response”). 8
    3.
    Lastly, Rought argues that any post-invocation waiver
    was not effective because he was not “fully aware of the
    consequences if he were to waive his right to counsel to any
    extent.” Rought Br. 26. Rought argues in particular that he
    “could not have been fully aware of the consequences
    concerning involvement in a conspiracy, and how broadly such
    charges would sweep.” 
    Id.
     But he otherwise concedes that,
    given “the totality of the circumstances, it might be reasonable
    to infer that [he] was fully aware of the consequences of
    waiving [the] right to counsel concerning legal issues arising
    out of any involvement” in Carichner and Giberson’s
    overdoses. 
    Id.
    Rought’s argument that his waiver was invalid because
    he did not foresee all of its potential consequences is meritless.
    It is beyond cavil that “[t]he Constitution does not require that
    8
    Rought also takes issue with Whitehead’s comments
    that Rought “had a role” in Carichner’s death and that Rought
    must “feel like shit” about it. By the time Whitehead made
    these comments, however, Rought had already initiated
    discussion about Carichner’s death, and was thus subject to
    interrogation about that topic. Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d at 1087
    .
    Accordingly, we do not reach the question whether these
    comments by Whitehead amounted to interrogation under
    Innis, as the answer does not affect our disposition of Rought’s
    appeal. The dissent’s suggestion that these statements have
    any bearing on whether Rought re-initiated discussion about
    Carichner’s death is mistaken for the same reason.
    23
    a criminal suspect know and understand every possible
    consequence of a waiver.” Spring, 479 U.S. at 574. A waiver
    is generally held to be knowing and voluntary “if the defendant
    fully understands the nature of the right and how it would likely
    apply in general in the circumstances—even though the
    defendant may not know the specific detailed consequences of
    invoking it.” United States v. Ruiz, 
    536 U.S. 622
    , 629 (2002).
    We long ago observed that “[i]t is not in the sense of
    shrewdness that Miranda speaks of ‘intelligent’ waiver but
    rather in the tenor that the individual must know of his
    available options before deciding what he thinks best suits his
    particular situation.” Collins v. Brierly, 
    492 F.2d 735
    , 739 (3d
    Cir. 1974) (en banc). A similar principle applies to the
    voluntariness inquiry. See Barrett, 
    479 U.S. at 530
     (“The fact
    that some might find Barrett’s decision illogical is irrelevant,
    for we have never ‘embraced the theory that a defendant’s
    ignorance of the full consequences of his decisions vitiates
    their voluntariness.’” (footnoted omitted) (quoting Oregon v.
    Elstad, 
    470 U.S. 298
    , 316 (1985))).
    Rought makes only the above argument concerning
    waiver; he has thus forfeited all others. See Barna v. Bd. of
    Sch. Dirs., 
    877 F.3d 136
    , 145 (3d Cir. 2017). Even if Rought
    had preserved additional arguments and not conceded the
    point, we would readily conclude that his post-invocation
    waiver was voluntary, knowing, and intelligent under the
    totality of the circumstances. Rought was read his Miranda
    rights, signed a form acknowledging that he understood them,
    and consented to questioning. He had prior experience with
    the criminal justice system and was surely aware that his
    statements to law enforcement could be used against him.
    There is also no basis in the record for finding involuntariness.
    Neither Whitehead’s comment about Rought’s role in
    24
    Carichner’s death nor anything else he or Yelland said or did
    approaches the kind of law enforcement overreach necessary
    to render a statement involuntary. See Colorado v. Connelly,
    
    479 U.S. 157
    , 163-65 (1986); Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d at 1087-89
    ;
    Miller v. Fenton, 
    796 F.2d 598
    , 603-13 (3d Cir. 1986); 2
    LaFave, supra, Crim. Proc. § 6.2(c) nn.120-61 and
    accompanying text. By choosing to speak in detail about the
    circumstances of Carichner’s death after initiating discussion
    on that topic, Rought knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily
    waived his right to remain silent and his limited invocation of
    the right to counsel. See Berghuis, 
    560 U.S. at 384
    ; Velasquez,
    
    885 F.2d at 1087-89
    .
    *   *    *   *    *
    Rought made a limited invocation of his right to
    counsel, cutting off questioning only about the death of Dana
    Carichner.     Shortly after that invocation, he initiated
    conversation with law enforcement about Carichner’s death,
    and waived his previously invoked right not to discuss
    Carichner without counsel’s assistance. Rought’s post-
    invocation statements were thus admissible against him at trial,
    and the District Court correctly denied his motion to suppress.
    IV.
    For the foregoing reasons, we will affirm the judgment
    of the District Court.
    25
    United States of America v. James Rought
    No. 20-2667
    _________________________________________________
    ROTH, Circuit Judge, dissenting.
    The right to counsel during an in-custody interrogation
    should not be the target of a “gotcha game.” 1 The interrogator
    shouldn’t consider a suspect’s invocation of the right to
    counsel as an opportunity to trick the suspect into bringing up,
    on his own, the protected subject matter. If the suspect does
    so, “gotcha!” He has waived the right to counsel.
    The Majority has created the perfect playing field for a
    gotcha game. In permitting a “limited,” topic-specific
    invocation of the right to counsel, the Majority leaves the
    suspect in a morass of what topics are protected by the request
    for counsel and what topics the interrogators can continue to
    pursue. The interrogators not only can continue questioning
    him about other topics, but they also can try to induce him to
    talk about the very topic that he has said he does not want to
    discuss. If the suspect is induced to say something about the
    protected topic, he has waived the right to counsel. Gotcha!
    For these reasons, I do not agree with the Majority’s decision.
    I.
    1
    “Gotcha” is defined as “to exultingly point out a blunder, etc”.
    Random House Webster’s College Dictionary, (2d ed. 1999).
    1
    Miranda 2 is based on the Court’s determination that “in-
    custody interrogation . . . contains inherently compelling
    pressures which work to undermine the individual’s will to
    resist and to compel him to speak where he would not
    otherwise do so freely.” 3 “Even without employing brutality,
    the ‘third degree’ or . . . specific stratagems . . . the very fact of
    custodial interrogation exacts a heavy toll on individual liberty
    and trades on the weakness of individuals.” 4 Thus, “custodial
    interrogation [must] be preceded by advice to the putative
    defendant that he has the right to remain silent and also the
    right to the presence of an attorney.” 5 If the suspect invokes
    his right to counsel, it creates a presumption “that he considers
    himself unable to deal with the pressures of custodial
    interrogation without legal assistance.” 6 Police “must cease
    the interrogation if at any point the suspect indicates that he
    wishes to remain silent or that he wants an attorney.” 7
    A.
    The Majority seems oblivious to the coercive character
    of custodial interrogation that motivated the Supreme Court in
    Miranda 8 to protect the constitutional right against self-
    incrimination. This inherently coercive pressure of custodial
    2
    Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
     (1966).
    3
    Id.at 467
    4
    
    Id. at 455
    .
    5
    Edwards v. Arizona, 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 481–82 (1981).
    6
    Arizona v. Roberson, 
    486 U.S. 675
    , 683 (1988).
    7
    United States v. Velasquez, 
    885 F.2d 1076
    , 1084 (3d Cir.
    1989) (citation omitted).
    8
    
    384 U.S. 436
    .
    2
    interrogation may affect the suspect in several significant
    ways.
    Of prime importance is the fact that a suspect’s decision
    to talk about some topics, but not others, may be compromised
    by the ongoing interrogation. When a suspect invokes his right
    to counsel, he has indicated “that he considers himself unable
    to deal with the pressures of custodial interrogation without
    legal assistance.” 9     If a suspect explicitly states that
    interrogation on some topics is too much for him, can we
    assume that he can handle interrogation on similar topics? In
    particular, if the suspect has come to this conclusion while the
    coercive interrogation is still ongoing, how reliable is his
    decision? As Rought argues, it “belies common sense” to
    conclude that a suspect “[i]s sufficiently astute and calm”
    during an FBI interrogation “to carve out a subset of . . .
    discussion topics” 10 that he is able to handle. 11
    Moreover, even if a suspect can “carve out a subset of
    discussion topics,” the Majority ignores the difficult legal
    landscape that the suspect now must navigate to avoid being
    caught in a “gotcha game”:
    9
    Roberson, 
    486 U.S. at 683
    .
    10
    Opening Br. 23.
    11
    Indeed, even the suspect’s statements on other topics not
    covered by the invocation are likely tainted by the coercive
    nature of the custodial interrogation.: “[T]he presumption . . .
    that [the suspect] considers himself unable to deal with the
    pressures of custodial interrogation without legal assistance . .
    . does not disappear simply because the police have
    approached the suspect, still in custody, still without counsel,
    about a separate investigation.” Roberson, 
    486 U.S. at 683
    .
    3
    • While in this coercive setting, the suspect must make
    sure that his invocation of the right to counsel is
    “unequivocal,” not just unequivocal from his own
    perspective or even from a reasonable layperson’s
    perspective, but from the perspective of a reasonable
    police officer. 12 A request for an attorney, which is
    ambiguous or equivocal, as understood by a reasonable
    interrogator, does not invoke the right to counsel. 13
    • Moreover, under the Majority’s holding, the suspect
    must now make sure that an unequivocal invocation is
    not construed (also from the perspective of an
    interrogator 14) as being “limited” in some way. If the
    suspect intended the invocation to be unlimited and the
    interrogators misconstrue it as limited and continue to
    ask him questions, what is the suspect to make of their
    earlier promise to cease interrogation if he invoked his
    rights? Does he clarify that his invocation was not
    limited by invoking his rights again or does he simply
    conclude that the interrogators have no intention of
    12
    Davis v. United States, 
    512 U.S. 452
    , 459 (1994); accord
    Flamer v. Delaware, 
    68 F.3d 710
    , 725 (3d Cir. 1995).
    13
    
    Id.
    14
    Compare Burrell v. Commonwealth, 
    710 S.E.2d 509
    , 516
    (Va. Ct. App. 2011) (“[T]he qualification must be one that a
    reasonable police officer would understand as placing a
    specific question outside the boundaries of the
    interrogation[.]”), with People v. Firestine, 
    132 N.E.3d 886
    ,
    894–95 (Ill. App. Ct. 2019) (“We find that the better approach
    is to hold that, if a qualification or limit is ambiguous, the
    qualification or limit itself is ineffective.”).
    4
    respecting his rights and that re-invoking them would
    be “futile”? 15
    • If the suspect did intend his invocation to be limited, he
    must determine what scope a reasonable interrogator
    will give to the limitation. 16 If the police ask about
    topics that the suspect believed were covered by his
    invocation, will he realize that the police merely
    misconstrued his invocation—rather than ignored it—
    and clarify the invocation for them? If the suspect is
    frightened or timid or has poor command of English,
    will he be able to do so? Perhaps he will just conclude
    that clarification would be futile.
    • Even if the interrogators properly construe his
    limitation, the suspect must make sure that he does not
    inadvertently say something that will later be construed
    by a court as his reinitiating on his own the discussion
    of topics that he has said he is unable to handle without
    counsel.
    • Finally, the suspect must do all this while continuing to
    respond to interrogation on other topics.
    The number of landmines a suspect must avoid is mind-
    boggling. I cannot accept a rule that treats a suspect like a law
    15
    Davis, 
    512 U.S. at
    472–73 (Souter, J., concurring).
    16
    This situation is a prime example of how exceedingly
    difficult it is to draw a line between what is and what is not
    “covered” by a topic-specific invocation. Looking at the case
    before us, did Rought’s invocation of counsel mean that he did
    not want to talk about Carichner’s death without counsel
    present or that he did not want to talk about his drug dealings
    with Carichner, or both. The government claims the former,
    but that is not clear from the record.
    5
    school student who is taking an exam on criminal procedure.
    For suspects, the interrogation is not a hypothetical fact
    pattern; it is something they must navigate in real time while
    under extreme pressure—held alone and against their will,
    beset by police interrogators, and fearful of conviction and
    imprisonment. In the real world, the Majority’s labyrinthine
    approach opens the door for the police to play “gotcha” by
    enabling them to (1) grind down a suspect’s will and “badger[]
    [him] into waiving his previously asserted Miranda rights,” 17
    or (2) subtly subvert the limits imposed by his topic-specific
    invocation.
    The Majority’s approach will favor savvy suspects who
    understand the rules of the game but it will leave unsavvy
    suspects to fend for themselves. That is precisely the result
    that Miranda forbids: Under Miranda, the interrogators must
    state the rules, clearly and unequivocally, at the beginning of
    the interrogation for the benefit of savvy and unsavvy suspects
    alike.
    A.
    At one time, the Supreme Court jealously guarded
    Miranda’s prophylactic rule. In Edwards, 18 the Court held that
    once a suspect invokes his right to counsel, he cannot later
    waive that invocation without counsel present 19 unless the
    suspect, not the police, “initiate[s] further discussions” about
    17
    
    Id. at 485
     (O’Connor, J.) (quotation marks and citation
    omitted).
    18
    
    451 U.S. 477
     (1981).
    19
    See Roberson, 
    486 U.S. at 681
    .
    6
    the investigation. 20 Otherwise, police could “badger[] the
    defendant into waiving his previously asserted Miranda
    rights.” 21 The Court has also held that “[t]he Edwards rule . .
    . is not offense specific: Once a suspect invokes the Miranda
    right to counsel for interrogation regarding one offense, he may
    not be reapproached regarding any offense unless counsel is
    present.” 22 “[T]he presumption raised by a suspect’s request
    for counsel—that he considers himself unable to deal with the
    pressures of custodial interrogation without legal assistance—
    does not disappear simply because the police have approached
    the suspect, still in custody, still without counsel, about a
    separate investigation.” 23
    Over time, however, the Court has taken some steps to
    pare Miranda back. For example, in Davis v. United States,
    the Court held that Edwards does not apply where “the
    suspect’s statement is not an unambiguous or unequivocal
    request for counsel.” 24       That holding drew forceful
    disagreement from four Justices, who stated that it lacked
    “coherence with nearly three decades of case law addressing
    the relationship between police and criminal suspects in
    custodial interrogation.” 25 Obviously, we are bound by Davis.
    But unlike the Majority, I would not erode Miranda further.
    Our precedents do not support the Majority’s narrow
    20
    Smith v. Illinois, 
    469 U.S. 91
    , 95 (1984) (citation omitted).
    21
    Davis, 
    512 U.S. at 458
     (quotation marks and citation
    omitted).
    22
    McNeil v. Wisconsin, 
    501 U.S. 171
    , 177 (1991) (citing
    Roberson, 
    486 U.S. at 682
    ).
    23
    Roberson, 
    486 U.S. at 683
    .
    24
    Davis, 
    512 U.S. at
    461–62.
    25
    
    Id.
     at 467–68.
    7
    construction of topic-specific invocations of the right to
    counsel. Rather, Edwards and its progeny convince me that,
    once a suspect invokes the right to counsel as to one aspect of
    the police’s investigation, the police may not continue to
    question him, while still in custody and still without counsel,
    about any aspect of their investigation.
    B.
    The Supreme Court has never held that topic-specific
    invocations of the Fifth Amendment right to counsel are
    “limited” to the identified topics. 26 Before today, neither had
    we. Only one other circuit has done so in a published in
    opinion, 27 relying (like the Majority) on Connecticut v.
    Barrett. 28 A handful of district and state courts have done the
    same.
    None of these courts has explained, however, why
    Barrett supports holding that police may continue questioning
    a suspect after he has invoked his right to counsel on a topic
    that is germane to their investigation. Simply put, it does not.
    Barrett did not involve a topic-specific invocation. Rather,
    Barrett told police “that he would not give a written statement
    unless his attorney was present but had ‘no problem’ talking
    about the incident.” 29 The Supreme Court held that Barrett’s
    subsequent oral statements were admissible. 30
    26
    But see Roberson, 
    486 U.S. at 684
     (alluding to the possibility
    of topic-specific invocations in a counterfactual).
    27
    United States v. Ivy, 
    929 F.2d 147
    , 152–53 (5th Cir. 1991).
    28
    
    479 U.S. 523
     (1987).
    29
    Barrett, 
    479 U.S. at 525
    .
    30
    
    Id. at 529
    .
    8
    Even if Barrett had not affirmatively stated his
    willingness to undergo unlimited oral interrogation, 31
    however, Barrett’s invocation as to written statements is not
    analogous to a topic-specific invocation. Notwithstanding the
    Barrett Court’s dictum that Barrett’s invocation would have
    been effective to exclude written statements, Miranda
    provided for the right to the presence of counsel for a specific
    purpose—i.e., custodial interrogation. 32 Barrett’s invocation
    did not suggest that he felt unable to handle the pressures of
    interrogation on any topic. The act of writing down a statement
    does not involve interrogation to any extent that providing an
    oral statement does not already involve. It thus is not
    surprising that asking for counsel as to only written statements
    is not sufficient to force police to stop oral questioning
    altogether. 33 By contrast, a topic-specific invocation relates
    31
    See United States v. Martin, 
    664 F.3d 684
    , 689 (7th Cir.
    2011) (holding that lack of explicit consent to further
    questioning was not dispositive).
    32
    See McNeil v. Wisconsin, 
    501 U.S. 171
    , 178 (1991)
    (explaining that Edwards applies only where the suspect asks
    “for the particular sort of lawyerly assistance that is the subject
    of Miranda”—“the assistance of an attorney in dealing with
    custodial interrogation by the police”).
    33
    Some courts have similarly held that a suspect’s refusal to
    sign a form or take a polygraph without counsel is a “limited”
    invocation. See, e.g., United States v. Oba, 
    978 F.2d 1123
    ,
    1130 (9th Cir. 1992); Stumes v. Solem, 
    752 F.2d 317
    , 320–21
    (8th Cir. 1985). Like Barrett’s refusal to make a written
    statement, however, those refusals do not express an inability
    to handle the specific type of pressures identified in Miranda.
    To be clear, I do not suggest that these invocations (or Barrett’s
    invocation) are completely unenforceable under Miranda.
    9
    directly to the suspect’s ability to deal with the pressures of
    custodial interrogation without legal assistance.
    Here, Rought indicated that he was unable to deal with
    those pressures as to at least some topics. If a suspect
    unequivocally states that he cannot handle an interrogation
    topic without counsel, all interrogation should stop
    immediately. We should not “adopt a regime in which
    Edwards’ protection . . . could pass in and out of existence” 34
    depending on the topic being discussed. “Vagaries of this sort
    spread confusion through the justice system and lead to a
    consequent loss of respect for the underlying constitutional
    principle.” 35
    Because Rought invoked his right to counsel as to at
    least one topic of interrogation, Agent Whitehead should have
    stopped all interrogation, including questions regarding drug
    activity in Wilkes-Barre. Yet, Agent Whitehead immediately
    continued questioning Rought.
    I would reverse the District Court’s Order denying
    Rought’s Motion to Suppress and hold that all of Rought’s
    statements after his invocation are inadmissible.
    Rather, I conclude that they are inapposite and likely do not
    require police to stop all questioning because, unlike Rought’s
    invocation, they do not suggest that the suspect was unable to
    deal with custodial interrogation specifically.
    34
    Minnick v. Mississippi, 
    498 U.S. 146
    , 154 (1990).
    35
    
    Id. at 155
    .
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    II.
    A.
    Even assuming, however, that police can continue
    questioning about other topics not mentioned in a request for
    counsel, I tentatively agree that the District Court did not
    clearly err in holding that Rought’s invocation was limited to
    “the subject of Mr. Carichner,” 36 but only insofar as “the
    subject of Mr. Carichner” includes anything about Carichner
    and any drug sharing between Rought and Carichner. To the
    extent that the District Court construed Rought’s invocation as
    limited only to Carichner’s death, it clearly erred. Agent
    Whitehead asked, “Let’s talk about Dana? What happened
    there?” Rought responded, “I don’t really want to talk about
    that aspect without my lawyer because, like, that’s a serious
    situation. I mean, they’re trying to roof me . . . .” No
    reasonable construction of that statement would allow the
    District Court to find that it was limited to Carichner’s death.
    Whitehead said, “Let’s talk about Dana,” not “Let’s talk about
    Dana’s death”; he asked, “What happened there,” not “What
    happened to Carichner.” These statements are not susceptible
    36
    Appx. 97. I note, however, that even this broader
    construction survives only because of our generous standard of
    review. The more reasonable construction of Rought’s
    invocation is that it covered everything for which the
    government is “trying to roof” him (i.e., send him to prison).
    Thus, if we were reviewing the invocation de novo, I would
    hold that a reasonable police officer would construe it as
    covering every topic that could reasonably have led to
    incriminating statements supporting the charge in the original
    Indictment.
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    to such a narrow reading.
    The Majority holds that “that aspect” was limited to “the
    circumstances of Carichner’s death” in part because Rought
    had already “openly spoke[n] about other facets of his own
    criminal conduct.” But a suspect can invoke his rights even as
    to topics about which he has previously spoken. Moreover, the
    charges on which the government was trying to “roof” Rought
    (send him to prison) required proof of drug distribution, not
    merely that Rought caused Carichner’s death.
    B.
    The Majority holds that Rought reinitiated discussion
    about Carichner when he said, “you’re trying to say that I killed
    my friend.” Not so. Before Rought said anything, Whitehead
    continued the interrogation by asking about Derby and drug
    dealing’s effects on the “community.”
    The District Court believed that “[t]he questioning
    about L.B. and Mr. Derby, a person to whom L.B. sold drugs,
    were subjects distinct from that of the circumstances
    surrounding Mr. Carichner.” 37 Again, I disagree. Rought
    allegedly provided Carichner with drugs obtained from L.B.,
    causing his death. Derby similarly died because of L.B.’s
    drugs. Inevitably, focusing on Derby’s death and the effects
    on the “community” would lead back to Carichner’s similar
    death and its similar effects on the community. Indeed, earlier
    in the interrogation, Whitehead said that “a tragedy resulted
    from your actions. And not just yours . . . . This is what’s going
    on daily in the community.”
    37
    Appx. 97.
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    Nor did Whitehead try to turn the conversation back to
    L.B. He said that he wanted to talk about L.B. because he was
    “trying to make sense of it,” i.e., make sense of the overdoses.
    Only then, when questioned about L.B. in that context, did
    Rought say, “you’re trying to say that I killed my friend.”
    Rought’s statement did not change the subject of the
    conversation. At most, Rought made a passing reference to the
    charges against him while talking about how other drug
    dealers were “killing [his] friends”—the same topic Whitehead
    had already brought up in his questions about Derby, the
    “community,” and “wanting to understand” the overdoses.
    This passing reference does not show a “desire for a
    generalized discussion” about topics Rought explicitly said he
    would not discuss without counsel—at least not any more than
    Whitehead’s questioning had already brought up those topics.
    Yet, Whitehead took this as an invitation: “[W]e’re not saying
    you killed him, James, but what we’re saying is that, um, you
    had a role. . . . and I’m sure you feel like shit. . . . [N]one of us
    are going to say that you went there with intent and malice.”
    Whitehead’s questions and statements were directed at
    Rought. His question about Derby was made in connection
    with his statements about being “caught in a bad spot,”
    “help[ing] the community,” and a slew of others. They were
    provocative: “I’m sure you feel like shit.” And at this point,
    Whitehead could clearly see that Rought was distraught over
    the loss of his friends. Goading a defendant with comments
    about the loss of his friends and hurling accusations at him in
    an FBI interrogation room is custodial interrogation. 38
    38
    Cf. United States v. Lafferty, 
    503 F.3d 293
    , 302 (3d Cir.
    2007) (holding that police did not “scrupulously honor”
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    Accordingly, the interrogation was reinitiated by Whitehead,
    not Rought.
    III.
    In conclusion, this case is a prime example of why
    topic-specific invocations should not be “limited.”
    Interrogations are too messy, and the pressures they exert too
    subtle and susceptible to police exploitation. Because I
    disagree with the Majority’s new rule and its application of that
    rule to the facts of this case, I respectfully dissent. I would
    suppress all of Rought’s statements after his invocation of the
    right to counsel. In the alternative, if we were to allow limited
    invocation of the right to counsel, I would hold that Rought did
    not waive his request for counsel and similarly that Rought’s
    statements after the invocation of the right to counsel should
    be suppressed.
    invocation of right to remain silent by placing defendant in
    interrogation room with codefendant while they interrogated
    the codefendant).
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