United States v. Askari (Part II - Amended) ( 1998 )


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    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    No. 95-1662
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    v.
    MUHAMMAD ASKARI,
    Appellant
    On Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
    (D.C. Criminal No. 92-cr-00288)
    Submitted Pursuant to Third Circuit LAR 34.1(a)
    November 6, 1996
    Before: BECKER, McKEE and GARTH, Circuit Judges
    Argued En Banc October 29, 1997
    Before: BECKER, Chief Judge; SLOVITER,* STAPLETON,
    MANSMANN, GREENBERG, SCIRICA, COWEN, NYGAARD,
    ALITO, ROTH, LEWIS, McKEE, and GARTH,
    Circuit Judges
    (Filed April 8, 1998)
    _________________________________________________________________
    *Judge Sloviter was Chief Judge of the Court of Appeals for the Third
    Circuit at the time this appeal was argued. Judge Sloviter completed her
    term as Chief Judge on January 31, 1998.
    STAPLETON, Circuit Judge, concurring:
    Although it is a close question, I, too, am persuaded that
    the content of the phrase "non-violent offense," as used in
    U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13, should not be determined by reference
    to the definition of the phrase "crime of violence" in
    U.S.S.G. S 4B1.2. I also conclude that a downward
    departure is not authorized by S 5K2.13 in this case.
    However, I reach that conclusion by a route somewhat
    different from that followed by the court.
    Having concluded that the scope of the phrase "non-
    violent offense" in U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13 is not controlled by the
    scope of the phrase "crime of violence" in U.S.S.G. S 4B1.2,
    one must determine whether Askari's bank robbery offense
    constitutes a "non-violent offense" for the purposes of
    U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13. I conclude that it does not because a
    federal bank robbery conviction necessarily involves a
    finding that the offense involved actual force or a threat of
    force and such a finding, in my view, precludes
    characterization of the offense as a non-violent one for
    purposes of S 5K2.13.1
    The Poff dissent took note not only of S 5K2.13's
    requirement that the offense of conviction be "non-violent,"
    but also of its requirement that the defendant's criminal
    history not indicate a need to protect the public. Read
    together, this dual requirement suggested to the dissenting
    judges that S 5K2.13 was intended to authorize leniency for
    those individuals who suffer from diminished mental
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    1. I use the term "bank robbery" in the traditional sense. Traditional
    bank robbery is proscribed by the first paragraph of 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a)
    which provides:
    [w]hoever, by force and violence, or by intimidation, takes, or
    attempts to take, from the person or presence of another, or
    obtains
    or attempts to obtain by extortion any property or money or any
    other thing of value belonging to, or in the case, custody,
    control,
    management, or possession of, any bank, credit union, or any
    savings and loan association.
    While it has been suggested that a public official may be able to commit
    bank robbery by "extorting" bank funds without a threat of violence, I
    would not regard this as traditional bank robbery and I would take no
    position on the application of S 5K2.13 in such a case.
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    capacity that contributed to their crimes so long as neither
    the history of the defendant nor the character of the crime
    indicated a need for incapacitation. Against this
    background, the Poff dissent ultimately concluded that a
    "non-violent offense" is "one in which mayhem did not
    occur" -- one that "in the event did not entail 
    violence." 926 F.2d at 594
    , 595. This conclusion suggests that leniency is
    available where the offense of conviction involved any sort
    of unrealized threat of violence so long as the defendant's
    criminal history does not indicate the need for
    incapacitation.
    The Chatman court similarly read S 5K2.13 as intended
    to authorize leniency for those whose diminished mental
    capacity contributed to their crimes so long as neither the
    crime nor the criminal history indicates a need for
    incapacitation. It rejected, however, the position of the Poff
    dissent that unrealized threats of violence cannot render an
    offense a violent one. In the view of the Chatman court,
    "[s]ome offenses that never result in physical violence may,
    nonetheless, indicate that a defendant is exceedingly
    dangerous, and should be 
    incapacitated." 986 F.2d at 1454
    . Thus, if the sentencing court determines that "an
    offense involved a real and serious threat of violence--such
    as an assault with a deadly weapon," it should conclude
    that it is not a "non-violent offense" for purposes of
    S 5K2.13. Id.. In the case before the Chatman court, the
    defendant had robbed a bank by handing a note to a teller
    demanding money and stating, "People will get hurt if I
    don't walk out of this bank." 
    Id. at 1447.
    The case was
    remanded to the district court presumably for a
    determination of the defendant's state of mind.
    Chatman and the Poff dissent both take the view that the
    sentencing court should look to the underlying facts to
    determine whether the offense was non-violent. I agree,
    although I believe it may be helpful for a sentencing court
    to take note of the essential elements of the crime of
    conviction, not because those elements control the U.S.S.G.
    S 5K2.13 issue in all cases, but rather because the findings
    necessarily implicit in a conviction may preclude it from
    being a "non-violent offense" within the meaning of
    U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13.2 Moreover, I take a somewhat different
    view of the scope of the phrase "non-violent offense."
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    2. This is, of course, consistent with the obligation of a sentencing
    judge
    to accept for sentencing purposes the facts necessarily implicit in the
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    Askari was charged with bank robbery under the first
    paragraph of 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a). That offense consists of
    taking, or attempting to take, anything of value, by force
    and violence, by intimidation, or by extortion. As the court's
    opinion demonstrates, the requirement that the property be
    taken either "by force and violence" or "by intimidation"
    requires proof of force or threat of force as an element of
    the offense, and in determining whether intimidation is
    present, the question is whether an ordinary person in the
    victim's position reasonably could infer a threat of bodily
    harm from the defendant's acts. As the court also notes,
    the term "extortion" as used in 18 U.S.C.S 2113(a) means
    obtaining property from another person, without the other
    person's consent, induced by the wrongful use of actual or
    threatened force, violence, or fear. Thus, in every case in
    which the defendant is convicted of bank robbery under the
    first paragraph of S 2113(a), there will be a beyond a
    reasonable doubt finding that the defendant was violent or
    engaged in conduct reasonably perceived as involving a
    threat of violence.
    Under the view taken by the Poff dissent, afinding that
    the defendant's conduct was reasonably perceived as
    involving a threat of violence is not relevant to whether the
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    jury's verdict. United States v. Boggi, 
    74 F.3d 470
    , 478-79 (3d Cir. 1996)
    ("the district court . . . properly reasoned that `a guilty verdict, not
    aside, binds the sentencing court to accept the facts necessarily implicit
    in the verdict.' ") (quoting from United States v. Weston, 
    960 F.2d 212
    ,
    218 (1st Cir. 1992)). While this approach to U.S.S.C. S 5K2.13 produces
    the same result in a bank robbery case as that reached in Rosen, it is
    analytically distinct and will produce different results in other
    situations.
    Under this approach, "nonviolent offense" as used in U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13
    will (1) exclude from the scope of that section (i.e. exclude from
    consideration for a departure based on diminished capacity) offenses
    that would not be "crimes of violence" under U.S.S.G. S 4B1.2(1), as
    where force against the person of another or the threat thereof is not an
    essential element (e.g., transportation for purposes of prohibited sexual
    conduct), but such force or threat thereof is in fact used, and will (2)
    include in the scope of that section (i.e., include as candidates for such
    a departure) offenses that would be "crimes of violence" under U.S.S.G.
    S 4B1.2(1), as where the offense is burglary and no force against the
    person of another or threat thereof is employed.
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    offense is a "non-violent" one for purposes of S 5K2.13. Like
    the Chatman court, I reject that view. Section 5K2.13
    clearly evidences an intent that there be no downward
    departure on grounds of diminished mental capacity where
    incapacitation appears necessary to protect the public, and,
    in many instances, a threat of violence will be strong
    evidence of such a need.
    While it presents a closer issue, I also reject the Chatman
    court's view that whenever a S 5K2.13 motion is filed in a
    bank robbery case not involving actualized violence, the
    Sentencing Commission intended the sentencing court to
    determine whether the threat was a serious one that would
    have been acted on had events unfolded differently. Given
    that the issue turns on the Commission's intent, I look for
    guidance to the text of S 2B3.1, the "Robbery" Guideline,
    and the text of the criminal statute that guideline was
    intended to implement. Like most robbery statutes, the first
    paragraph of S 2113(a) does not distinguish between
    situations in which violence actually occurs and situations
    in which it is threatened but the threat is not realized.3
    Both are regarded as offenses of the same degree of
    seriousness. Similarly, S 2B3.1 does not distinguish
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    3. Title 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a) provides for a maximum imprisonment of 20
    years. Title 18 U.S.C. S 2113(d) provides:
    Whoever, in committing, or in attempting to commit, any offense
    defined in subsections (a) and (b) of this section, assaults any
    person, or puts in jeopardy the life of any person by the use of a
    dangerous weapon or device, shall be fined under this title or
    imprisoned not more than twenty-five years, or both.
    On its face, this can be read as punishing bank robbers who engage in
    actual violence--specifically, assault--during the commission of their
    crime more severely than those who only threaten violence. This is not
    the correct reading of S 2113(d), however. In Simpson v. United States,
    
    435 U.S. 6
    (1978), the Supreme Court held that subsection (d) requires
    more than an assault and that " `the phrase `by the use of a dangerous
    weapon or device' must be read, regardless of punctuation, as modifying
    both the assault provision and the putting in jeopardy provision.' " 
    Id. at 13
    n.6. Hence, the goal of S 2113(d) is not to punish more severely the
    actual use of violence in bank robberies under S 2113(a), but rather to
    punish more severely "the use of a dangerous weapon or device" in such
    situations. 18 U.S.C. S 2113(d).
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    between these two situations. It does not, for example,
    establish a base offense level for S 2113(a) offenses and
    then provide for a specific offense characteristic increase for
    those situations in which violence actually occurs.4
    It is my understanding that robberies involving violence
    and all robberies involving only threats of violence have
    traditionally been regarded as of equal seriousness because
    threats of violence necessarily hold an unacceptably high
    risk of realized violence whether emanating from the robber
    or from others attempting to respond to the threat. Because
    an unacceptably high risk of actualized violence and
    attendant injury exists without regard to whether the
    defendant expected to commit violence, our society has
    traditionally considered that factor to be irrelevant to the
    defendant's culpability in a robbery context.
    I agree with the view that the limitations on the
    downward departure authority conferred by S 5K2.13 are
    intended to preclude lenity only where no need for
    incapacitation is indicated. I do not agree, however, that
    where a person threatens violence in the course of robbing
    a bank as a result of diminished mental capacity, no need
    for incapacitation is indicated in the event the sentencing
    judge believes the threat was not a "serious" one (i.e.,
    probably would not have been carried out had events
    unfolded differently). As I have noted, the bank robbery
    statute deals with situations in which there is a high risk
    of actualized violence and attendant injury without regard
    to the state of the defendant's mind. Moreover,S 5K2.13
    deals with situations in which diminished mental capacity
    has contributed to the commission of a crime. Thus,
    applying S 5K2.13 in a bank robbery context necessarily
    involves a crime with a high risk of actualized violence and
    a defendant with a diminished capacity to refrain from such
    high risk activity. That combination suggests to me a need
    for incapacitation and makes me reluctant to attribute to
    the Commission an intent to authorize S 5K2.13 downward
    departures in bank robbery cases. Because I find nothing
    in the Guidelines that compels such an attribution, I reject
    this portion of the Chatman court's decision.
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    4. U.S.S.G. S 2B3.1 does provide a specific offense characteristic
    increase
    when violence results in personal injury but not for violence per se.
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    I would hold that the scope of the phrase "non-violent
    offense" in U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13 is not controlled by the scope
    of the phrase "crime of violence" in U.S.S.G. S 4B1.2. I
    would nevertheless further hold that a S 5K2.13 downward
    departure is not authorized where the offense of conviction
    is bank robbery.
    Judge Sloviter joins this concurring opinion.
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    McKEE, Circuit Judge, concurring with whom Lewis, Circuit
    Judge, joins.
    I agree with the majority's conclusion that the Sentencing
    Commission did not intend to import the "crime of violence"
    definition from the career offender provision of U.S.S.G.
    S 4B1.2 into U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13. I think the majority is
    correct in rejecting our prior holding in United States v.
    Rosen and the majority view in United States v. Poff in favor
    of the view espoused by Judge Easterbrook in his dissent in
    Poff. However, I write separately because the majority
    concludes that Askari's crime was not a "non-violent
    offense" based upon the elements of the crime. That is
    inconsistent with the approach taken by the dissent in Poff,
    and those jurisdictions that have followed Judge
    Easterbrook's reasoning. Rather than deny Askari a
    S 5K2.13 departure because of the elements of his crime,
    we should require an individualized inquiry into the
    specifics of his conduct to determine if his actual conduct
    amounts to a "non-violent offense" as that term is used in
    S 5K2.13, notwithstanding the elements of his crime.
    However, I nevertheless join in the judgment of my
    colleagues, because Askari's criminal history indicates that
    a departure under U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13 is not appropriate
    because of a need to protect the public.
    I.
    The majority properly rejects our prior holding in United
    States v. Rosen, 
    896 F.2d 789
    (3d Cir. 1990). The majority's
    rejection of the reasoning of Rosen is grounded in Judge
    Easterbrook's dissent in United States v. Poff , 
    926 F.2d 588
    (7th Cir. 1991), as well as the holding in United States v.
    Chatman, 
    986 F.2d 1446
    (D.C. Cir. 1993), and United
    States v. Weddle, 
    30 F.3d 532
    , 540 (4th Cir. 1994). Maj.
    Op. at 17. However, the majority parts company with those
    cases insofar as those cases direct the sentencing court to
    engage in a fact-specific inquiry concerning the defendant's
    actual conduct, and the circumstances surrounding the
    offense, in order to determine if a particular offense is "non-
    violent" under S 5K2.13. Instead, the majority "take[s] a
    somewhat different view of the applicable standard." Maj.
    Op. at 21. It limits its inquiry here to the elements of the
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    crime of conviction and allows those elements to govern its
    determination of whether Askari committed a "non-violent
    offense" under S 5K2.13.
    The majority reasons, "[i]f the elements of the crime
    require a finding of violent conduct, then a valid conviction
    can hardly permit a sentence based on a finding of non-
    violent conduct." Maj. Op. at 26. After considering the
    elements of Askari's robbery charge, the majority concludes
    that robbery under 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a)1 is a crime of
    violence barring any consideration as a "non-violent crime"
    under S 5K2.13. Under this approach, once a sentencing
    court concludes that the elements of a crime include
    violence or intimidation, a defendant is no longer eligible for
    the fact-specific, case by case inquiry that would otherwise
    govern a departure for a "significantly reduced mental
    capacity" under S 5K2.13. Although the majority's approach
    does have a certain logic and symmetry that is quite
    appealing, I am not persuaded that the analysis under
    S 5K2.13 ought to be as limited as the majority concludes.
    The Sentencing Reform Act and the resulting Sentencing
    Guidelines have altered the relationship between the
    offense of conviction, and the criminal sanction that follows
    to the extent that the symmetry of the majority's analysis is
    no longer required or appropriate.2 As the majority correctly
    points out, the purposes of S 4B1.2 and S 5K2.13 are not
    the same. The factors that are relevant under S 4B1.2 are
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    1. 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a) provides, in part, that:
    (a) Whoever, by force and violence, or by intimidation, takes, or
    attempts to take, from the person or presence of another, or
    obtains
    or attempts to obtain by extortion any property or money or any
    other thing of value belonging to, or in the care, custody,
    control,
    management, or possession of, any bank, credit union, or any
    savings and loan association.
    2. See United States v. Watts, ___ U.S. ___, 
    117 S. Ct. 633
    (1997)
    (sentencing court may consider conduct of which the jury acquitted a
    defendant in imposing a sentence following a conviction); United States
    v. Baird, 
    109 F.3d 856
    (3d Cir.), cert. denied, 
    118 S. Ct. 243
    (1997)
    (Guidelines allow a defendant to be sentenced based in part upon
    conduct contained in counts of an indictment that were dismissed
    pursuant to a plea bargain).
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    not necessarily relevant, or even appropriate, under
    S 5K2.13. My colleagues in the majority provide a very
    reasoned and convincing statement of why the definition of
    "crime of violence" cannot control whether a conviction is
    for a "non-violent offense" for purposes of a downward
    departure based upon "reduced mental capacity." However,
    the majority then restricts the meaning of "non-violent"
    offense under S 5K2.13 by the very definition that it holds
    does not apply under that Guideline. Section 4B1.2 defines
    "crime of violence" to include any offense that "has as an
    element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of
    physical force." However, today we adopt the reasoning of
    Judge Easterbrook's dissent in Poff, and the cases that
    have relied upon it. Under that rationale, a sentencing
    court should consider "all the facts and circumstances of a
    case in deciding whether a crime is a `non-violent offense' "
    under S 5K2.13. 
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1453
    . Once we
    conclude that we erred in Rosen by restricting "non-violent
    offense" to the definition of "crime of violence," we need no
    longer tether our S 5K2.13 analysis to the definition in
    S 4B1.2 that we have just rejected. This point is best
    illustrated by Judge Easterbrook in his dissent in Poff:
    As the Commission was at pains to establish in
    S 4B1.2, whether a crime is one "of violence" depends
    on its elements and not on the defendant's conduct, so
    that an unrealized prospect of violence make the crime
    one of violence. This is an abnormal sense, a term of
    art. It took a detailed definition to make it so. Then
    comes S 5K2.13, in which "non-violent offense" appears
    without elaboration or cross-reference. Best to read
    these words in their ordinary sense rather than as tied
    to the term of art in S 4B1.2. A "non-violent offense" in
    ordinary legal (and lay) understanding is one in which
    mayhem did not occur. The prospect of violence (the
    "heartland" of the offense, in the guidelines' argot) sets
    the presumptive range; when things turn out better
    than they might, departure is permissible.
    
    Poff, 926 F.2d at 594
    (citation omitted) (emphasis added).
    One of the purposes of the Sentencing Reform Act was to
    increase uniformity in sentencing by reducing disparities in
    sentencing. See U.S. Sentencing Guidelines Manual, ch. 1,
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    pt. A, at A3 (U.S.S.G.). However, another important purpose
    was to increase proportionality in sentencing by imposing
    different sentences for crimes representing different levels
    of culpability. 
    Id. To reconcile
    these seemingly contrary
    goals, the Commission, inter alia, provided for departures
    outside of the guideline range. See U.S.S.G. S 5K2.0. A
    policy that restricts departures based solely upon the
    elements of an offense is inconsistent with the
    Commission's attempt to apportion sanctions based upon
    culpability. Although we may properly conclude that one
    who commits a more serious crime is more culpable than
    one who commits a less serious one, that equation does not
    work where the more serious crime is committed by one
    who is less culpable because of a reduced mental capacity.
    "The criminal justice system long has meted out lower
    sentences to persons who, although not technically insane,
    are not in full command of their actions." 
    Poff, 926 F.2d at 594
    (Easterbrook, J., dissenting). Moreover, "[s]carce
    resources and prison space achieve greater deterrence
    when deployed against those who are most responsive to
    the legal system's threats and who pose the greatest danger
    if not deterred." 
    Id. at 595.
    Thus, in Chatman, which the majority here cites with
    approval, see Maj. Op. at 19-20, the court held that a
    defendant was eligible for a downward departure under
    S 5K2.13 even though he (like Askari) came before the
    sentencing court convicted of bank robbery. There, the
    district court had opined that the defendant was ineligible
    for a S 5K2.13 departure because he had given a teller a
    threatening note during the bank robbery. The sentencing
    court concluded that the defendant's conduct therefore
    amounted to a crime of violence. 
    Id. at 1447.
    The Court of
    Appeals for the D.C. Circuit relied upon Judge
    Easterbrook's dissent in Poff, and reversed. The court
    reasoned that S 5K2.13 vested a sentencing court with
    broad discretion to consider all the relevant facts
    concerning the offense because the Commission's purpose
    was "to treat with lenity those individuals whose`reduced
    mental capacity' contributed to [sic] commission of a
    crime." 
    Id. at 1452.
    In contrast to the purposes of section 4B1.2, the point
    of section 5K2.13 is to treat with leniency those
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    individuals whose reduced mental capacity contributed
    to commission of a crime. Such lenity is appropriate in
    part because, as Judge Easterbrook points out, two of
    the primary rationales for punishing an individual by
    incarceration -- desert and deterrence -- lose some of
    their relevance when applied to those with reduced
    mental capacity. . . .
    . . . .
    Considered in this context, the term "non-violent
    offense" in section 5K2.13 refers to those offenses that,
    in the act, reveal that a defendant is not dangerous,
    and therefore need not be incapacitated for the period
    of time the Guidelines would otherwise recommend. A
    determination regarding the dangerousness of a
    defendant, as manifested in the particular details of a
    single crime that he or she has committed, is best
    reached through a fact-specific investigation.
    
    Id. (citations omitted).
    Likewise, the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in
    United States v. Cantu was persuaded that a sentencing
    court's inquiry into a defendant's eligibility underS 5K2.13
    should be undertaken with a view toward lenity. 
    12 F.3d 1506
    , 1510 (9th Cir. 1993)(citation omitted). There, the
    court agreed with the analysis in Chatman, and noted that
    "[l]enity is appropriate because the purpose of S 5K2.13 is
    to treat with some compassion those in whom a reduced
    mental capacity has contributed to the commission of a
    crime." 
    Id. Although the
    court in Cantu was concerned with
    whether post-traumatic stress disorder could cause
    reduced mental capacity under the Guidelines not with
    whether the defendant committed a "non-violent offense,"
    the court recognized that fact-specific inquiries must be
    undertaken to determine both the defendant's mental
    condition and the circumstances of the offense. See also,
    United States v. McBroom, 
    124 F.3d 533
    , 547 (3d Cir. 1997)
    ("Section 5K2.13 is intended to create lenity for those
    whose significantly reduced mental capacity cause them to
    commit the offense of conviction.").
    Thus, I conclude that Askari is not ineligible for a
    S 5K2.13 departure solely because of his robbery conviction.
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    The record shows that, although Askari had his hand
    underneath his shirt when he ordered the bank teller to
    give him money, two bank employees chased him from the
    bank. I submit, therefore, there is a genuine issue as to
    just how frightening or intimidating he was during the
    commission of the crime. However, I do not minimize the
    intimidation of the bank teller whom Askari confronted. See
    Maj. Op. at 27. Instead, the teller's reaction should be
    assessed along with all of the other evidence in concluding
    whether, based upon the totality of the circumstances,
    Askari committed a "non-violent offense" under S 5K2.13. A
    sentencing court should make that determination
    independently of the definition contained in S 4B1.2 (which,
    as noted above, includes the elements of the offense).
    Barring other considerations, a defendant's eligibility for a
    S 5K2.13 departure can be determined only after the
    completion of such an individualized inquiry.
    II.
    Despite my disagreement with the conclusion of the
    majority of my colleagues, I agree with the majority's
    ultimate decision to affirm the sentence because there are
    additional considerations under the departure provision.
    Section 5K2.13 is not only restricted to persons whose
    offense is non-violent, it also requires that "a defendant's
    criminal history does not indicate a need for incarceration
    to protect the public." See U.S.S.G.S 5K2.13. Here, the
    district court noted that Askari had a long history of crime,
    including violent crime. (App. at 56a.) Therefore, I agree
    that regardless of whether or not the bank robbery in this
    case is classified as a "non-violent offense," Askari is
    ineligible for the departure because his criminal history
    does suggest a need to protect the public. Thus, I concur in
    the judgment of the majority.
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    GARTH, Circuit Judge, concurring:
    I agree that the order of the district court should be
    affirmed. However, I reach this result by relying on the logic
    and common sense of Judge Seitz's opinion for our court in
    United States v. Rosen, 
    896 F.2d 789
    (3d Cir. 1990), and its
    conclusion that the term "non-violent offense" cannot mean
    something other than the opposite of a "crime of violence."
    Rosen teaches that a defendant who has committed a
    "crime of violence" according to USSG S 4B1.2(a) is not
    eligible for a downward departure for commission of a "non-
    violent offense" with reduced mental capacity under USSG
    S 5K2.13. See 
    id. at 791.
    Because Askari was convicted of
    a "crime of violence," namely bank robbery, he is obviously
    ineligible to receive the grant of a downward departure
    authorized by S 5K2.13 and the order of the district court
    imposing a sentence of 210 months in prison should be
    affirmed.
    The court today correctly affirms the order of the district
    court, but on its path to doing so, rejects Rosen. My
    colleagues take the position that the "crime of violence"
    definition of USSG S 4B1.2(a) should not be used to
    determine whether a defendant has committed a "non-
    violent offense" according USSG S 5K2.13. For essentially
    those reasons stated by the Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Ninth,
    and Eleventh Circuits, I do not find this position
    persuasive. See United States v. Mayotte, 
    76 F.3d 887
    , 889
    (8th Cir. 1996); United States v. Poff, 
    926 F.2d 588
    , 591-93
    (7th Cir. 1991) (en banc); United States v. Russell, 
    917 F.2d 512
    , 517 (11th Cir. 1990); United States v. Maddalena, 
    893 F.2d 815
    , 819 (6th Cir. 1989); United States v. Borrayo, 
    898 F.2d 91
    , 94 (9th Cir. 1989); see also United States v.
    Chatman, 
    986 F.2d 1446
    , 1454-55 (D.C. Cir. 1993) (D.H.
    Ginsburg, J., concurring).
    In light of the many opinions on this issue already found
    in the Federal Reporter, I feel no need to rehash the
    familiar arguments in favor of Rosen.3 However, our court's
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    3. Briefly, however, the pro-Rosen arguments may be summarized as
    follows. First, common sense dictates that a "non-violent offense" is the
    converse of a "crime of violence." Second, the parallel structure of
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    inability to agree on a standard to replace Rosen provides
    a new perspective from which to appreciate its strength.
    Having agreed to reject Rosen's teaching that a "non-
    violent offense" is defined by S 4B1.2(a), my colleagues have
    diverged in their efforts to come up with a new definition.
    Reaching back to first principles of "modern criminology,"
    the majority has promulgated a definition of "non-violent
    offense" that it believes will respond to "the need for the
    sentence imposed to reflect the seriousness of the offense,
    to protect the public, and to provide just punishment." Maj.
    Op. at 23. Under the majority rule,
    departures under USSG S 5K2.13 exclude conduct that
    involves actual force, threat of force, or intimidation,
    the latter two measured under a reasonable person
    standard. Therefore, "non-violent offenses" under USSG
    S 5K2.13 are those which do not involve a reasonable
    perception that force against persons may be used in
    committing the offense.
    Maj. Op. at 26 (emphasis added). Accordingly, the district
    court must examine "the elements of the crime and the
    surrounding conduct" to determine whether there was
    actual force or a reasonable perception of a threat of force.
    In their concurrences, Judge Stapleton and Judge McKee
    offer different approaches. Following conviction of a crime
    involving threats of violence that were not executed, Judge
    Stapleton would have the district court look to the
    underlying criminal statute and the relevant section of
    Chapter 2 of the Guidelines. If the district court could
    discern from these texts an intent to award lighter
    sentences to defendants who were unlikely to carry out
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    S 4B1.1 and S 5K2.13 suggests that the same definition should be used
    to assess whether the violent nature of a defendant's crime should
    support a modification of the defendant's sentence. Third, the Guidelines
    should be read as a whole, and when the same word appears in related
    sections, we should assume that the word carries the same meaning in
    both. Fourth, the term "crime of violence" is a broad phrase that appears
    in other sections of the Guidelines apart from S 4B1.1. See, e.g., USSG
    SS 2K2.1, 2K1.3, 4A1.1. Its meaning therefore can be exported to
    S 5K2.13 as well as to these other sections.
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    their threats of violence, Judge Stapleton would allow a
    defendant who appears unlikely to have carried out a threat
    of violence to be eligible for a downward departure under
    S 5K2.13. Judge McKee offers yet another approach to
    defining "non-violent offense." In his concurrence, Judge
    McKee advocates a totality of the circumstances test, in
    which a district court would be required to conduct an
    individualized inquiry into the specifics of the defendant's
    conduct to determine whether it constituted a "non-violent
    offense."
    As I see it, our court's inability to agree on a definition of
    "non-violent offense" in S 5K2.13 illustrates the wisdom of
    Rosen. By utilizing S 4B1.2(a), Rosen harnessed the
    Sentencing Commission's efforts to delineate the
    boundaries between violent and non-violent conduct. The
    Commission produced a clear rule. When linked to
    S 5K2.13 by Rosen, the result was simple and
    straightforward guidance that produced sensible results:
    defendants convicted of offenses involving the use,
    attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against
    a person, or whose behavior presented a serious potential
    risk of physical injury to others, were ineligible for a
    reduced sentence due to diminished capacity. By rejecting
    Rosen, our court has created the need to fashion a
    standard that at best can only replicate the efforts of the
    Commission codified at S 4B1.2(a).
    I do take some solace in the fact that the majority's new
    standard for evaluating departures appears to do just that.
    Indeed, it seems that the majority has gone out of its way
    to reject Rosen in theory but has embraced it in fact.
    Looking at the majority's new definition of "non-violent
    offense," I am hard pressed to think of a case in which the
    definition would produce a result different from Rosen: that
    is, when a defendant's action would not involve "actual
    force, threat of force, or intimidation, the latter two
    measured under a reasonable person standard," but
    nonetheless would qualify as a "crime of violence" according
    to USSG S 4B1.2(a).
    The court's attempt to conjure up such an example
    appears in part IIID of the majority's opinion. There, the
    court imagines extortion by a public official in violation of
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    the Hobbs Act. In order to come within the court's new
    standard, a public official with a diminished mental
    capacity not the result of voluntary intake of alcohol or
    drugs, acting under color of right, would have to extort
    funds in violation of the Hobbs Act in a way that did not
    involve a threat of force, as judged by a reasonable person.
    In such a case, the court hypothesizes, that official would
    be eligible for a S 5K2.13 departure under the court's new
    standard but not under Rosen.
    I have never heard of such a prosecution. Nor have I been
    able to locate any published reports of one. Indeed, as the
    dissent notes, it is not even clear that the majority's rule
    would produce a different result than Rosen given such a
    set of facts. See Dissenting Op. at n.2. Thus, it appears
    that the majority has rejected Rosen in theory but not in
    substance: it has fashioned from first principles a new rule
    that appears to mirror Rosen in every set of facts that has
    been known to arise. This being so, I see no reason to
    abandon our Rosen rule, with which five other circuits have
    agreed.
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    BECKER, Chief Circuit Judge, Dissenting.
    I join in Parts I, II, and IIIA, B, & C of the majority
    opinion, which overrule United States v. Rosen, 
    896 F.2d 789
    (3d Cir. 1990), and hold that Rosen's determination
    that "non-violent offense" as used in U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13
    should be controlled by the definition of "crime of violence"
    used elsewhere in the Sentencing Guidelines was incorrect.
    Judge Scirica's analysis in these segments of his opinion is
    not only sound but itself clearly demonstrates why the only
    appropriate and logical course is to permit the district
    courts to consider all the facts and circumstances
    surrounding the commission of a crime when deciding
    whether that crime qualifies as a non-violent offense under
    S 5K2.13.
    In Part IIID, however, the court holds that (and attempts
    to explain why) we should preclude sentencing judges from
    granting S 5K2.13 departures in "traditional" bank robbery
    cases.1 After invoking the Sentencing Reform Act, 18 U.S.C.
    S 3553, and exploring the terms of the bank robbery
    statute, 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a), the court defines "non-violent
    offense" as those offenses "which do not involve a
    reasonable perception that force against persons may be
    used in committing the offense." Op. at 26. The court also
    states that:
    It would seem, therefore, that with bank robbery
    convictions under the first paragraph of 18 U.S.C.
    S 2113(a), a defendant could not qualify for a departure
    under USSG S 5K2.13 as presently written. . . . [i]f the
    elements of the crime require a finding of violent
    conduct, then a valid conviction could hardly permit a
    sentence based on a finding of non-violent conduct.
    
    Id. at 29,
    31.
    I do not believe that there any persuasive reasons to
    support the categorical exclusion from S 5K2.13 of offense
    conduct that the analysis in the first segments of Part III
    would have otherwise left to fact specific consideration by
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    1. I adopt Judge Stapleton's reference to "traditional" bank robbery as
    that conduct proscribed by the first paragraph of 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a).
    See Concurr. Op. (Stapleton) at 30.
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    the sentencing judge. That is because, as those circuits
    that have already rejected the Rosen approach have
    concluded, the policies behind the departure provisions are
    distinct from (and often in tension with) the career offender
    and substantive offense guidelines, and that it accordingly
    does not make sense to assess whether an offense is "non-
    violent" based on the statutory elements of the crime.
    Unlike the majority, I would follow that logic to its
    conclusion. That logic, I note, is buttressed by Judge
    McKee's and Judge Garth's concurring opinions.
    I
    Section 5K2.13 of the Guidelines is a policy statement
    authorizing sentencing judges to downwardly depart in
    circumstances when the offender is found to have been
    "suffering from significantly reduced mental capacity not
    resulting from voluntary use of drugs or other intoxicants."
    Section 5K2.13 is a guided departure, one that is thus
    "encouraged." See Koon v. United States, 
    116 S. Ct. 2035
    ,
    2045 (1996). Although a S 5K2.13 departure depends upon
    a judgment as to the extent to which reduced mental
    capacity contributed to the commission of the offense, a
    departure is optional, and elements of discretion are plainly
    present.
    The critical limitation on the ability of the sentencing
    judge to grant a S 5K2.13 departure is that the defendant
    must have committed a "non-violent offense." This term is
    not, as the majority notes, defined anywhere in the
    Guidelines. In Rosen, we adopted a definition based on
    "crime of violence," a term of art used in S 4B1.1, the career
    offender provision, and defined in S 4B1.2. Unlike S 5K2.13,
    which permits sentencing judges to exercise leniency in
    appropriate circumstances, S 4B1.1 mandates that a certain
    class of recidivist offenders receive the harshest sentence
    possible under the circumstances by ratcheting up both the
    criminal history and base offense levels.
    A
    The effect of Rosen was that, by applying the "crime of
    violence" standard to the "non-violent offense" analysis, the
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    sentencing judge would be bound by the statutory elements
    of the offense in determining whether the crime was "non-
    violent." This is because a "crime of violence" is defined as
    an offense that "has an element the use, attempted use, or
    threatened use of physical force against the person of
    another." U.S.S.G. S 4B1.2; see also United States v. Poff,
    
    926 F.2d 588
    , 594 (7th Cir. 1991) (en banc) (Easterbrook,
    J., dissenting) ("[W]hether a crime is one `of violence'
    depends on its elements and not on the defendant's
    conduct."). What actually happened is not relevant; the
    court need only look to the elements of the offense of
    conviction. Accordingly, since the crime of bank robbery is
    defined to include force or intimidation, see 18 U.S.C.
    S 2113(a), it could never be found to be a non-violent
    offense under the Rosen construction.2
    The majority rejects Rosen in favor of the contrary view
    expressed in United States v. Weddle, 
    30 F.3d 532
    , 540 (4th
    Cir. 1994), United States v. Chatman, 
    986 F.2d 1446
    (D.C.
    Cir. 1993), and in Judge Easterbrook's noted dissent in
    Poff. These cases demonstrate why we must necessarily
    examine the facts of the offense to determine whether
    "significantly reduced mental capacity" could be a ground
    for lenience at sentencing. As Judge Edwards summarized
    in Chatman:
    [T]he point of section 5K2.13 is to treat with lenity
    those individuals whose "reduced mental capacity"
    contributed to the commission of a crime. Such lenity
    is appropriate because, as Judge Easterbrook points
    out, two of the primary rationales for punishing an
    individual by incarceration -- desert and deterrence --
    lose some of their relevance when applied to those with
    reduced mental capacity. As to desert, "[p]ersons who
    find it difficult to control their conduct do not --
    considerations of dangerousness to one side -- deserve
    as much punishment as those who act maliciously or
    for gain." 
    Poff, 926 F.2d at 595
    (Easterbrook, J.
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    2. The majority concedes as much. See Op. at 9-10 ("If `non-violent'
    offense in USSG S 5K2.13 is defined by reference to the term `crime of
    violence' in USSG S 4B1.2 and its commentary, then bank robbery would
    never qualify as a `non-violent' offense.").
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    dissenting). Further, "[b]ecause legal sanctions are less
    effective with persons suffering from mental
    abnormalities, a system of punishment based on
    deterrence also curtails its sanction." 
    Id. . .
    .
    [W]hen an individual with "significantly reduced mental
    capacity" does not pose a danger to the public, and
    thus does not need to be incapacitated, that individual
    is eligible for a downward departure.
    Considered in this context, the term "non-violent
    offense" in section 5K2.13 refers to those offenses that,
    in the act, reveal that a defendant is not dangerous,
    and therefore need not be incapacitated for the period
    of time the Guidelines would otherwise recommend.
    . . . A determination regarding the dangerousness of a
    defendant, as manifested in the particular details of a
    single crime that he or she has committed, is best
    reached through a fact-specific investigation.
    
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1452
    (internal citations omitted). The
    majority also recognizes this policy foundation,finding that
    U.S.S.G. S 5K2.13 "encourages more lenient treatment for
    persons who are not actually dangerous but whose reduced
    mental capacity contributed to the commission of a crime."
    See Op. at 21 (emphasis added).
    The policy rationale discussed in Chatman, in
    conjunction with the discretionary nature of S 5K2.13
    
    discussed supra
    , counsels that sentencing judges must be
    given the ability to examine the facts of the offense to
    determine whether a diminished capacity departure is
    appropriate. To that end, Weddle, Chatman, and the Poff
    dissent all reject the Rosen approach in favor of a fact-
    specific inquiry. See 
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1452
    ("We
    therefore believe that a District Court, when deciding
    whether a particular crime qualifies as a `non-violent
    offense,' should consider all the facts and circumstances
    surrounding the commission of the crime."); 
    Weddle, 30 F.3d at 540
    (agreeing with the Chatman fact-specific
    approach); 
    Poff, 926 F.2d at 595
    (Easterbrook, J.,
    dissenting) (concluding that "non-violent offense" refers to
    "crimes that in the event did not entail violence."). Thus,
    the essential distinction between Chatman and Rosen is
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    whether the statutory definition of the crime or the facts of
    the offense will be outcome determinative.3
    Yet, while the majority ostensibly rejects Rosen and
    claims to find the arguments in Chatman, Weddle, and the
    Poff dissent "convincing," see Op. at 20, it does not fully
    adopt the fact-based inquiry necessary to its own position.
    Instead, the majority posits that the district court should
    "look at" the facts of the offense, but should do so "within
    the context of the Sentencing Reform Act and the
    underlying statute defining criminal culpability." See 
    id. at 22.
    It then directs courts to "assess the seriousness of the
    offense" to determine whether a departure is warranted by
    looking "to the elements of the crime and the surrounding
    conduct." 
    Id. at 23.
    And while the majority holds that "non-
    violent offense" should be defined based on the "reasonable
    perception that force against persons may be used" --
    which sounds more like a fact specific inquiry-- it
    concludes that:
    If the elements of the crime require a finding of violent
    conduct, then a valid conviction could hardly permit a
    sentence based on a finding of non-violent conduct. So
    long as the bank robbery victim has been threatened
    with harm, and is seen to have been threatened under
    an objective standard (reasonable person), the
    defendant cannot be found to have acted in a non-
    violent manner.
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    3. I note that the circuit split on the question presently before us has
    caught the attention of the U.S. Sentencing Commission, which has
    recently proposed four alternative amendments toS 5K2.13. See 62
    Crim. L. Rep. 2051, 2078-79 (Jan. 21, 1998). Option one corresponds to
    the Rosen - Poff majority view. Option two corresponds to the Chatman
    fact-intensive view. Option three, a variation on the Chatman view,
    "defines the scope of the departure to exclude cases that involve actual
    violence or a serious threat of violence." 
    Id. at 2078.
    Finally, option
    four
    broadens the scope of the departure by eliminating the "non-violent
    offense" limitation altogether. See 
    id. It is
    interesting that the
    Commission, obviously influenced by the force of Judge Easterbrook's
    Poff dissent, which it explicitly references, appears to be in doubt over
    the best course to take. Unlike many of the other proposals for
    amendment it has made in the past, the Commission proposes four
    distinct options rather than taking a definite stance on this issue.
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    Id. at 26.
    Since the applicable provision of 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a) has
    as a statutory element actual or threatened force (the latter
    measured under an objective standard), by definition an
    offender convicted of traditional bank robbery could never
    be found to have committed a "non-violent" offense. Thus,
    under the majority's construction of Chatman, Muhammad
    Askari could not qualify for a departure under S 5K2.13
    regardless of the factual circumstances underlying his
    offense. To that end, the majority's proposed "reasonable
    perception" standard does not save its opinion from being
    analytically identical to Rosen. As Judge McKee explains in
    his concurring opinion, under the majority's reasoning
    "once a sentencing court concludes that the elements of a
    crime include violence or intimidation, a defendant is no
    longer eligible for the fact-specific, case by case inquiry that
    would otherwise govern a departure . . . under S 5K2.13."
    Concurr. Op. (McKee) at 37. In other words, in such a
    circumstance the majority directs us not to consider
    whether the facts of the case constitute a real expression or
    threat of violence, but whether the crime itself is "of
    violence." This restricts the meaning of "non-violent offense"
    by "the very definition [the majority] holds does not apply."
    See Concurr. Op. (McKee) at 38.
    I fail to see how this approach, which appears to credit
    Judge Easterbrook's reasoning, is substantially different
    from a straightforward application of Rosen or the majority
    view in Poff. As Judge Garth aptly opines in his concurring
    opinion, the majority has "gone out of its way to reject
    Rosen in theory but has embraced it in fact." See Concurr.
    Op. (Garth) at 44. I observe that the majority has properly
    rejected Rosen in theory, but has gone out of its way to
    embrace it in fact.
    B
    It is important that we pause and recognize the
    significance of what the majority holds today. As the
    majority correctly notes, one element of the applicable bank
    robbery statute is that the offender takes property either
    "by force and violence" or "by intimidation." See Op. at 12.
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    As discussed, it is this element of the offense that seals
    Muhammad Askari's fate. However, as the majority also
    notes, to prove "intimidation," the government need only
    show that an "ordinary person in the teller's position
    reasonably could infer a threat of bodily harm from the
    defendant's acts." 
    Id. (citing United
    States v. Woodrup, 
    86 F.3d 359
    , 363 (4th Cir.), cert. denied, 
    117 S. Ct. 332
    (1996).
    This means that a defendant whose diminished mental
    capacity at the time of the offense is beyond cavil could be
    precluded from a S 5K2.13 departure despite a record that
    clearly demonstrates that (a) there was no actual violence;
    (b) there was no real chance of violence being carried out;
    and (c) no one in the bank at the time of the robbery
    actually felt threatened by the defendant. This result
    cannot be consistent with the desert and deterrence
    rationales 
    discussed supra
    and impliedly embraced by the
    majority.4
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    4. The majority attempts in Part IIID of its opinion to suggest a set of
    circumstances in which an offender convicted of bank robbery still could
    qualify for a S 5K2.13 departure. In the majority's hypothetical, a public
    official could commit bank robbery by extortion in violation of the Hobbs
    Act, 18 U.S.C. S 1951(b)(2) without force or the threat of force. See Op.
    at 25-26. As Judge Garth suggests in his concurring opinion, this is a
    somewhat far-fetched set of facts, and is not particularly helpful in
    deciding whether the rule the majority fashions today is distinguishable
    from Rosen. I would also add that the majority's example, on its own
    facts, although styled as a "bank robbery" would appear to involve
    instead a prosecution under the Hobbs Act -- which does not have as a
    necessary element the use of force or the threat of force. See United
    States v. Addonizio, 
    451 F.2d 49
    , 72 (3d Cir. 1972) (indicating that
    Hobbs Act violation can be based on fear of economic loss). In that case,
    the majority's hypothetical defendant could be eligible for a S 5K2.13
    departure even under Rosen. If, on the other hand, the majority's
    example would entail a prosecution under 18 U.S.C.S 2113(a), by the
    terms of the majority's own opinion a diminished capacity departure
    would be precluded. See Op. at 25 ("It would seem, therefore, that with
    bank robbery convictions under the first paragraph of 18 U.S.C.
    S 2113(a) [including extortionate acts], a defendant could not qualify for
    a departure under USSG S 5K2.13 as presently written.").
    In order to distinguish itself from Rosen, the majority would need to
    generate a hypothetical under the first paragraph of 18 U.S.C. S 2113(a)
    that would not foreclose a diminished capacity departure. This the
    52
    In contrast, to be consistent with its reasoning in Part
    IIIC, the majority should have modeled its result in Part
    IIID on Chatman. The facts of Chatman are just like those
    presently before us. The unarmed defendant walked into a
    bank, passed the teller a note demanding money, and
    threatened violence otherwise. The defendant left the bank
    without incident and was captured by the police soon
    thereafter. Since it was unclear from the record whether the
    district court had assessed the specific facts of the case and
    exercised its discretion to depart, or whether it had
    categorically rejected the S 5K2.13 departure based on the
    statutory definition of bank robbery, the D.C. Circuit
    remanded for a resentencing. See 
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1454
    . The same result should obtain here. As in Chatman,
    the district court rejected the S 5K2.13 departure not on the
    facts, but because it believed (correctly, as things have
    turned out) that it was precluded from departing based on
    the elements of the crime. But as Judge McKee states, once
    we have rejected Rosen, "we need no longer tether our
    S 5K2.13 analysis to the definition in S 4B1.2 that we have
    just rejected." Concurr. op. (McKee) at 38.5
    II
    Judge Stapleton, writing separately, also agrees that the
    definition of "non-violent offense" used in S 5K2.13 should
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    majority has not done. See also Concurr. Op. (Stapleton) at n.1 ("While
    it has been suggested that a public official may be able to commit bank
    robbery by "extorting" bank funds without a threat of violence, I would
    not regard this as traditional bank robbery and I would take no position
    on the application of S 5K2.13 in such a case.").
    5. Both the majority in Part IIIE and Judge McKee's concurrence
    conclude that we should also affirm the district court's denial of a
    departure pursuant to S 5K2.13 because Askari's criminal history
    suggests a need to protect the public. While it is true that to be
    eligible
    for a diminished capacity departure, S 5K2.13 requires that "a
    defendant's criminal history does not indicate a need for incarceration to
    protect the public," and while the district court found that Askari has a
    long history of crime, the district court did not expressly make a finding
    about the need for incarceration in this case. I believe that that
    determination should be made by the district court in the first instance.
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    not be controlled by the definition of "crime of violence"
    used in the career offender provision, S 4B1.1. However, like
    the majority, he concludes that a downward departure is
    not warranted in traditional bank robbery cases. Although
    Judge Stapleton's rationale differs somewhat from the
    majority's, I believe that it still comes up short.
    Judge Stapleton's reasoning can be summarized as
    follows. First, he rejects Judge Easterbrook's view that the
    findings of the jury at the guilt phase with respect to the
    defendant's use of violence or threats are essentially
    irrelevant at the departure phase. See Concurr. Op.
    (Stapleton) at 34. Judge Stapleton believes, like the
    majority, that if a conviction for bank robbery necessarily
    entails a jury finding that the defendant's conduct was, at
    least, reasonably perceived as involving a threat of violence,
    this finding should preclude characterization of the offense
    as "non-violent" for S 5K2.13 purposes. See 
    id. at 30,
    34.
    The difference between this view and Rosen, according to
    Judge Stapleton, is that while Rosen mandates that the
    elements of the offense control the outcome in all cases,
    under the Stapleton view the elements do not always
    control, but rather the "findings necessarily implicit in a
    conviction may preclude" characterization of the offense as
    "non-violent." See 
    id. at 31.
    Accordingly, Judge Stapleton also rejects the Chatman
    view that whenever a S 5K2.13 motion is made in a bank
    robbery case involving unrealized violence, the sentencing
    court should have the opportunity to make an independent
    determination whether or not the threat "was a serious one
    that would have been acted on had events unfolded
    differently." See 
    id. at 33.6
    His rejection of the need for such
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    6. The Chatman court disagreed with the Poff dissent to the extent that
    Judge Easterbrook's opinion could be read to suggest that any crime
    that does not actually involve physical violence is a "non-violent
    offense."
    See 
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1454
    . The court found instead that some
    offenses that did not actually result in violence may suggest that the
    defendant is "exceedingly dangerous" and needs to be incapacitated. See
    
    id. The court
    described such offenses as those which "involved a real and
    serious threat of violence," and included as an example assault with a
    deadly weapon. See 
    id. This determination,
    however, was left to the
    district court.
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    factual findings is premised on a belief that the Sentencing
    Commission intended the Guidelines to follow the
    "traditional view" that crimes involving violence and crimes
    involving only threats of violence are regarded as being of
    equal seriousness. Based on an examination of the text of
    both the robbery guideline and the robbery statute, he finds
    no distinction between realized violence and unrealized
    threats. Accordingly, Judge Stapleton concludes that the
    Commission did not intend to authorize downward
    departures in traditional bank robbery cases involving only
    unrealized threats. See 
    id. at 34.
    Hence, Judge Stapleton is
    of the view that an offense involving an unrealized threat
    could never be "non-violent."
    I disagree with this analysis for two reasons. First, I am
    not persuaded that Judge Stapleton's reliance on "the
    findings necessarily implicit in a conviction" is analytically
    distinguishable from the Rosen approach. The findings that
    are necessary to a conviction for a given offense will always
    be equivalent to the statutory elements of that offense --
    that is, to say that implicit in a bank robbery conviction is
    a jury finding that there was a reasonable inference of a
    threat of bodily harm is no different from saying that the
    bank robbery statute requires the government to prove that
    the victims reasonably felt threatened. Thus, it makes no
    sense to me to hold that the sentencing court should"look
    to the underlying facts," see Concurr. Op. (Stapleton) at 31,
    while simultaneously holding that a departure could be
    precluded by "implicit" facts -- i.e. the elements of -- the
    conviction. I reiterate the point made by both Judges
    McKee and Garth that there is no difference between the
    Rosen "crime of violence" approach and an approach by
    which the decision to depart is per se precluded by the
    statutory elements of the offense. See Concurr. Op. (McKee)
    at 38; Concurr. op. (Garth) at 51-52. Judge Stapleton's first
    conclusion cannot be consistent with a rejection of Rosen.
    Second, Judge Stapleton's conclusion that the
    Commission has adopted the "traditional view" that threats
    and actual violence should be treated the same in the
    departure context is equally problematic. As the majority's
    analysis of Poff, Chatman, and Weddle amply indicates, a
    major reason why we have rejected the Rosen analysis is
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    that the policy goals driving the departure provisions are
    significantly different from the policy goals motivating the
    other portions of the Guidelines. See Op. at 18-19, 21; see
    also 
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1452
    . Thus, while it may make
    good policy sense to treat bank robbery offenders who use
    violence the same as those who only threaten violence for
    purposes of computing the applicable base offense level,
    different policy goals are implicated when it comes to the
    departure decision, and in that context it does not
    necessarily make sense to treat empty threats and actual
    violence as per se the same.
    Furthermore, as Judge McKee explains in his concurring
    opinion, the "Sentencing Reform Act and the resulting
    Sentencing Guidelines have altered the relationship
    between the offense of conviction, and the criminal sanction
    that follows." Concurr. Op. (McKee) at 37. To use
    Guidelines vocabulary, the "heartland" of the offense sets
    the presumptive sanction range by way of the base offense
    level. In the bank robbery context, that heartland is defined
    by the mere prospect of violence. See 
    Poff, 926 F.2d at 594
    (Easterbrook, J., dissenting). Thus, the presumptive
    sanction is the same whether the offense involved actual
    violence or the threat of violence. Section 5K2.13, however,
    is concerned with whether the offense conduct is indicative
    of a need for the standard incapacitation entailed by a given
    offense or whether the conduct is more indicative of a
    mental illness, and thus society has a lesser need to
    incapacitate. See 
    Chatman, 986 F.2d at 1452
    (discussing
    incapacitation rationale). Thus, when "things turn out
    better than they might" and violence does not actually
    occur, a departure becomes permissible. 
    Poff, 926 F.2d at 594
    (Easterbrook, J., dissenting). In that light, whether the
    offender was actually violent or posed a real threat of
    violence, or whether he presented a threat that was unlikely
    to have been realized, is a central and necessary factual
    distinction in the departure context. Thus, it does not
    necessarily follow that because the robbery offense
    guideline does not distinguish between realized and
    unrealized violence that the departure provisions should
    similarly not make such a distinction.
    Moreover, it is not even obvious that the robbery offense
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    guideline does not fully distinguish between "situations in
    which violence actually occurs and situations in which it is
    threatened but the threat is not realized." Concurr. Op.
    (Stapleton) at 33. Judge Stapleton is correct that S 2B3.1,
    the robbery offense guideline, does not provide for a specific
    base level enhancement for violence per se. However,
    S 2B3.1(b)(3) mandates a graduated offense level increase if
    the victim of the robbery sustained a bodily injury.7 I
    recognize that there can be crimes where violent conduct
    occurs but does not result in bodily injury, and thus this
    enhancement does not squarely refute Judge Stapleton's
    argument. See United States v. Harris, 
    44 F.3d 1206
    , 1218
    (3d Cir. 1995) (finding that there will be crimes where the
    offender will use mace but will not cause bodily injury to
    victims). At the same time, it seems plausible to read into
    this provision an intent of the Commission to treat serious
    threats the same as violence only when that violence does
    not result in injury. Since threats by themselves cannot
    cause bodily injuries, see United States v. Sawyer, 
    115 F.3d 857
    , 859 (11th Cir. 1997) (holding that psychological injury
    by itself cannot support an enhancement under
    S 2B3.1(b)(3)), the Commission clearly intended to treat
    legitimate threats and substantial violence differently.
    Perhaps, then, the Commission did not adopt Judge
    Stapleton's "traditional view" wholesale after all.8
    In sum, I would follow the principles advanced in
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    7. Section 2B3.1(b)(3) provides, in part:
    If any victim sustained bodily injury, increase the offense level
    according to the seriousness of the injury:
    Degree of Bodily Injury                  Increase in Level
    (A) Bodily Injury                        add 2
    (B) Serious Bodily Injury                add 4
    (C) Permanent or Life-Threatening Bodily
    Injury                                   add 6
    8. Even accepting that the Commission did not intend to distinguish
    between violent offenses and offenses involving a real threat to violence
    in the departure context, that does not change the fact that the
    sentencing court needs to examine the offense conduct to determine if
    the threat was real enough to justify being treated like actual violence
    in
    the departure context.
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    Chatman, Weddle and the Poff dissent. Even if there is a
    reasonable perception of a threat by the bank teller that
    justifies a conviction and a base offense level that is the
    same as if the offender had used actual violence, the policy
    goals underlying Chapter Five of the Guidelines are
    different from the policies underlying the substantive
    offense provisions, and thus the jury's factual
    determinations should not necessarily preclude a
    departure.
    III
    The improvidence of the majority view is demonstrated by
    a recent highly publicized incident in the Philadelphia area.
    In December of 1997, in a drama resembling the one
    currently before us, the mayor of Darby Borough,
    Pennsylvania, a beloved and respected long-time member of
    the community, walked into a local bank in broad daylight
    and told a teller "This is a robbery. I have a bomb on me."
    See Lisa Sandberg, Darby Mayor Held in Bank Heist,
    Philadelphia Inquirer, Dec. 28, 1997, at B5. Apparently the
    mayor walked out with $1,500, but surrendered to
    authorities about one half-hour later. See 
    id. According to
    the police investigating the crime, the mayor did not
    actually possess a bomb. See 
    id. Friends and
    colleagues
    believe that his actions were the product of chronic
    depression related to personal and financial troubles. See
    Raphael Lewis & Lisa Sandberg, Depression Tied to Bank
    Robbery, Philadelphia Inquirer, Dec. 30, 1997, at B1, B6.
    If this were a federal case (it is not and will not be),9 a
    district court would have no grounds under the majority's
    opinion to depart downwards on grounds of diminished
    capacity. More specifically, it would have no grounds to
    depart even if it found beyond cavil that the defendant's
    actions were prompted by a deep psychological disturbance
    and that there was no real threat of violence. In my view
    that makes no sense.
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    9. I am informed by the United States Attorney that the mayor is being
    prosecuted in state court, and that he will not be prosecuted in federal
    court.
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    For all the foregoing reasons, I respectfully dissent. Judge
    Nygaard and Judge Roth join in this dissent.
    A True Copy:
    Teste:
    Clerk of the United States Court of Appeals
    for the Third Circuit
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