Simon v. FIA Card Services, N.A. , 732 F.3d 259 ( 2013 )


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    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    _____________
    No. 12-3293
    _____________
    ROBERT MAXWELL SIMON; STACEY HELENE SIMON
    Appellants
    v.
    FIA CARD SERVICES, N.A.; WEINSTEIN & RILEY, P.S.
    On Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the District of New Jersey
    (D. C. No. 3-12-cv-518)
    District Judge: Honorable Joel A. Pisano
    Argued May 22, 2013
    (Opinion filed: October 7, 2013)
    Before: RENDELL and GREENAWAY, JR., Circuit Judges
    and ROSENTHAL, District Judge*
    Andy Winchell, Esq. (Argued)
    Law Offices of Andy Winchell
    332 Springfield Avenue, Suite 203
    Summit, NJ 07901
    Counsel for Appellants
    Kenneth S. Jannette, Esq.
    Susan Power Johnston, Esq. (Argued)
    Weinstein & Riley. P.S.
    14 Penn Plaza, Suite 1300
    New York, New York 10122
    Counsel for Appellees
    
    The Honorable Lee H. Rosenthal, of the United States
    District Court for the Southern District of Texas, sitting by
    designation.
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    OPINION
    ROSENTHAL, District Judge:
    This appeal arises out of the intersection of the
    Bankruptcy Code and the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
    The issue is whether a debt collector’s letter and notice
    requesting an examination under Federal Rule of Bankruptcy
    Procedure 2004 and offering to settle a debt, sent in a pending
    bankruptcy in contemplation of an adversary proceeding to
    challenge dischargeability, can be the basis for liability under
    the FDCPA.
    A law firm, Weinstein & Riley, P.S., sent the letter and
    attached notice at issue on behalf of FIA Card Services, N.A.,
    to both appellants, bankruptcy debtors Stacey Helene and
    Robert Maxwell Simon, through their bankruptcy counsel.
    The District Court dismissed the Simons’ FDCPA suit arising
    from the letter and notice under Federal Rule of Civil
    Procedure 12(b)(6).        The District Court held that the
    Bankruptcy Code provided the exclusive remedy for the
    alleged violations and precluded the FDCPA claims. The
    District Court also held that even if the FDCPA claims were
    not precluded, the Simons’ complaint did not allege sufficient
    facts to state a claim. The Simons appealed. We will affirm
    in part, reverse in part, and remand.
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    I. Background
    On December 30, 2010, the Simons filed for
    bankruptcy protection under Chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy
    Code, 11 U.S.C. §§ 701–84, in the United States Bankruptcy
    Court for the District of New Jersey. In re Simon, No. 10-
    50052 (Bankr. D.N.J. filed Dec. 30, 2010). The schedules
    submitted to the Bankruptcy Court identified an unsecured,
    nonpriority claim credit-card debt owed to Bank of America
    (now FIA). FIA retained Weinstein & Riley to represent it in
    the Simons’ bankruptcy proceeding.
    On January 28, 2011, Weinstein & Riley sent the letter
    and attached notice to both Mr. and Mrs. Simon through their
    bankruptcy counsel.         The letter stated that FIA was
    considering filing an adversary proceeding under 11 U.S.C. §
    523 to challenge the dischargeability of the credit-card debt.
    The letter included an offer to forego an adversary proceeding
    if the Simons stipulated that the credit-card debt was
    nondischargeable or if they agreed to pay a reduced amount
    to settle the debt. The letter stated that a Rule 2004
    examination to gather information for filing an adversary
    proceeding had been scheduled for February 28, 2011, but
    that Weinstein & Riley was open to “discuss[ing] with your
    client whether the matter can be resolved without conducting
    the examination and/or to reschedule it for an informal
    telephone conference at a mutually agreeable time prior to the
    bar date.” The bottom of the letter set out additional
    information about how to challenge the debt “[i]n the event
    that this letter is governed by the FDCPA.”
    Attached to the letter was a document entitled
    “NOTICE OF EXAMINATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH
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    F.R.B.P. 2004 AND LOCAL RULE 2004-1.” The notice
    identified the date and time for the Rule 2004 examinations
    and the place as Weinstein & Riley’s offices in New York
    City or “upon written request, at an alternate location to be
    agreed upon by the parties.” The notice included a statement
    that the Simons were to bring specified documents to the Rule
    2004 examinations.1 The notice stated that “[p]ursuant to
    Local Rule 16, no order shall be necessary.” The Simons
    alleged, and the appellees acknowledged at oral argument,
    that the notice was subject to the requirements for a subpoena
    1
    The documents the Simons were to bring included: (1)
    “[a]ll cancelled checks and checking account statements
    maintained by Debtor for the one (1) year period prior to the
    date the Debtor filed bankruptcy”; (2) “[a]ll books and
    records evidencing Debtor’s income, including payroll
    statements, W-2 forms and other documentary evidence of
    income, for the years 2008 and 2009”; (3) “[f]ederal tax
    returns filed by Debtor for the taxable years 2007, 2008, and
    2009”; (4) “[a]ll checks, invoices, receipts of payments and
    statements for the Debtor and Debtor’s personal expenses,
    including, but not limited to credit card statements, mortgage
    or rental payments, utility bills, insurance premiums,
    automobile and/or transportation expenses, entertainment and
    recreational expenses, clothing expenses, capital gains and
    losses, gambling debts, food expenses, or medical and drug
    expenses, for the one (1) year period prior to the date the
    Debtor filed for bankruptcy”; and (5) “[a]ll financial
    statements, inventories, and schedules reflecting Debtor’s
    assets, liabilities and net worth, whether prepared by Debtor
    or on Debtor’s behalf, for the one (1) year period prior to the
    date Debtor filed for bankruptcy.”
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    under Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 9016 and
    Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45.
    At the bottom of the subpoena was a certificate signed
    by a Weinstein & Riley attorney. The certificate stated that
    “a true and correct copy of the foregoing has been mailed on
    January 28, 2011 to the above address.” Two addresses were
    listed: the Simons’ home in New Jersey and their bankruptcy
    counsel’s office. The Simons allege that they did not receive
    a copy at their home address and that Weinstein & Riley did
    not in fact send a copy there. The Simons’ bankruptcy
    counsel received the copies sent to his office.
    The Simons filed a motion in the Bankruptcy Court to
    quash the Rule 2004 examination notices on the ground that
    they failed to comply with the Bankruptcy Rule 9016 and
    Civil Rule 45 subpoena requirements. On February 23, 2011,
    the Simons filed an adversary proceeding asserting FDCPA
    claims against FIA and Weinstein & Riley. The Bankruptcy
    Court quashed the Rule 2004 examination notices. The
    Bankruptcy Court later ruled that it lacked subject-matter
    jurisdiction over the FDCPA claims and dismissed them
    without prejudice.
    The Simons then sued FIA and Weinstein & Riley in
    the Federal District Court for the District of New Jersey.
    They alleged that the letters and subpoenas violated the
    FDCPA prohibition on false, deceptive, and misleading debt-
    collection practices under 15 U.S.C. § 1692e(5), (11), and
    (13). The appellees moved to dismiss on three grounds: (1)
    the FDCPA claim was precluded by the Bankruptcy Court’s
    earlier dismissal of the adversary proceeding the Simons had
    filed; (2) the complaint did not state a claim; and (3) the
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    allegations from which the FDCPA claims arose were
    governed exclusively by the Bankruptcy Code.
    On July 16, 2012, the District Court dismissed the
    FDCPA suit, with prejudice, stating that the “FDCPA claims
    [were] precluded by the Bankruptcy Code” and that the
    complaint “does not appear to set forth sufficient factual
    allegations to state a claim” under the FDCPA. Simon v. FIA
    Card Servs., N.A., Civ. No. 12-518, 
    2012 WL 2891080
    , at
    *4 (D.N.J. 2012).
    The Simons timely appealed from the dismissal order.2
    II. The Standard of Review
    Under Rule 12(b)(6), a motion to dismiss may be
    granted only if, accepting the well-pleaded allegations in the
    complaint as true and viewing them in the light most
    favorable to the plaintiff, a court concludes that those
    allegations “could not raise a claim of entitlement to relief.”
    Bell Atl. Corp. v. Twombly, 
    550 U.S. 544
    , 558 (2007). We
    review de novo an order granting a Rule 12(b)(6) motion.
    Mariotti v. Mariotti Bldg. Prods., Inc., 
    714 F.3d 761
    , 765 (3d
    Cir. 2013).
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    The District Court had jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1331.
    We have appellate jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1291.
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    III. Analysis
    A. Whether the Complaint Stated Claims Under
    the FDCPA
    Section 1692e of the FDCPA prohibits debt collectors
    from using “any false, deceptive, or misleading representation
    or means in connection with the collection of any debt.” The
    Simons alleged that the letter and notice violated § 1692e(5),
    (11), and (13). Section 1692e(5) states that a debt collector
    may not make a “threat to take any action that cannot legally
    be taken or that is not intended to be taken.” Section
    1692e(13) prohibits a debt collector from making a “false
    representation or implication that documents are legal
    process.”
    The Simons alleged that by sending the letter and
    attached notice, Weinstein & Reilly and FIA violated §
    1692e(5) and (13) in four ways:
    •     By intentionally failing to send the letter and subpoena
    to the Simons and instead sending the documents to
    their attorney, violating Civil Rule 45(b)(1)’s
    requirement that subpoenas be served directly on the
    individuals subpoenaed.
    •     By specifying the location for the Rule 2004
    examinations as the Weinstein & Riley office in New
    York, rather than in New Jersey. The Simons alleged
    that this violated Civil Rule 45(a)(2)(B)’s requirement
    that a subpoena be issued “from the court for the
    district where the deposition is to be taken.”
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    •      By failing to include in the subpoena the text of Civil
    Rule 45(c) and (d), as Civil Rule 45(a)(1)(A)(iv)
    requires.
    •      By failing to include in the subpoena the method of
    recording the Rule 2004 examinations, as Civil Rule
    45(a)(1)(B) requires.
    Additionally, the Simons allege that Weinstein & Riley
    violated the FDCPA by failing to include the “mini-Miranda”
    warning required under § 1692e(11). Under that section, a
    debt collector must disclose in the initial communication with
    the debtor that “the debt collector is attempting to collect a
    debt and that any information obtained will be used for that
    purpose.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692e(11).
    1. The Argument that the FDCPA Did Not
    Apply   Because    There  Was     No
    “Communication” Attempting to Collect
    a Debt
    The appellees generally contend that the FDCPA
    claims should be dismissed on the ground that the letter and
    notice sent to the Simons did not “attempt to collect a debt”
    under the statute because there was no demand for payment.
    Instead, the appellees contend, the letter offered to “discuss a
    possible [nondischargeability] claim pursuant to 11 U.S.C. §
    523.” Courts have not construed the FDCPA so narrowly.
    The FDCPA regulates “debt collection” without
    defining that term. The FDCPA states that “to be liable under
    the statute’s substantive provisions, a debt collector’s targeted
    conduct must have been taken ‘in connection with the
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    collection of any debt,’ e.g., 15 U.S.C. §§ 1692c(a)–(b),
    1692d, 1692e, 1692g, or in order ‘to collect any debt,’ id. §
    1692f.” Glazer v. Chase Home Fin. LLC, 
    704 F.3d 453
    , 459–
    60 (6th Cir. 2013). The FDCPA does define three other
    relevant terms:
     “Debt” means “any obligation or alleged obligation of
    a consumer to pay money arising out of a transaction
    in which the money, property, insurance, or services
    which are the subject of the transaction are primarily
    for personal, family, or household purposes, whether
    or not such obligation has been reduced to judgment.”
    15 U.S.C. § 1692a(5).
     “Debt collector” means a person “in any business the
    principal purpose of which is the collection of any
    debts, or who regularly collects or attempts to collect,
    directly or indirectly, debts owed or due or asserted to
    be owed or due another.” Id., § 1692a(6).
     “Communication” means “the conveying of
    information regarding a debt directly or indirectly to
    any person through any medium.” Id., § 1692a(2).
    The Supreme Court held in Heintz v. Jenkins that a
    “debt collector” includes an attorney who “‘regularly’
    engage[s] in consumer-debt-collection activity, even when
    that activity consists of litigation.” 
    514 U.S. 291
    , 299
    (1995).3 The Simons’ claims cannot be dismissed on the
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    The Court in Heintz noted that, as originally passed, the
    FDCPA exempted attorneys by providing that “debt
    collector” did not include “‘any attorney-at-law collecting a
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    ground that Weinstein & Riley’s actions did not amount to
    “debt collection” covered by the FDCPA.
    Nor can the Simons’ FDCPA claims be dismissed on
    the ground that the letter and notice were not
    “communications” under the statute. In Allen ex rel. Martin
    v. LaSalle Bank, N.A., 
    629 F.3d 364
     (3d Cir. 2011), we
    addressed whether a letter sent by a bank’s attorneys met the
    FDCPA requirement for a “communication.” Id. at 368 n.5
    (citing 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(2)). The bank argued that the letter
    was not an actionable FDCPA “communication” because it
    did not make a demand for payment. We rejected that
    argument and noted that a “communication” need only
    convey “‘information regarding a debt’ and is not limited to
    specific requests for payment.” Id. (quoting § 1692a(2)).
    Opinions from other circuits provide further support
    for applying the FDCPA to debt collectors’ communications
    to debtors even if there is even if there is no explicit demand
    for payment. In Gburek v. Litton Loan Servicing LP, the
    Seventh Circuit addressed whether two letters to a debtor who
    debt as an attorney on behalf of and in the name of a client.’”
    514 U.S. at 294 (quoting Pub. L. 95-109, § 803(6)(F), 91 Stat.
    874, 875). In 1986, before Heintz was decided, Congress
    repealed the attorney exemption. Pub. L. 99-361, 100 Stat.
    768. After Heintz, Congress amended § 1692e(11) to exempt
    any “formal pleading made in connection with a legal action”
    from the FDCPA’s notice requirements. 15 U.S.C. §
    1692e(11), as amended Pub. L. 104–208, § 2305(a), 110 Stat.
    3009, 3009–425 (1996). Congress did not otherwise limit the
    FDCPA’s applicability to lawyers using litigation to collect
    debts.
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    had fallen behind on her mortgage payments could be the
    basis for FDCPA claims. 
    614 F.3d 380
     (7th Cir. 2010). The
    letters, sent by or on behalf of a loan servicer, offered to
    discuss ways the debtor could avoid foreclosure and asked for
    the debtor’s detailed, current financial information. The
    Seventh Circuit held that the letters were sent “in connection
    with the collection of [a] debt” under § 1692e. Id. at 385.
    The court explained that “[t]he absence of a demand for
    payment is just one of several factors that come into play in
    the commonsense inquiry of whether a communication from a
    debt collector is made in connection with the collection of
    any debt.” Id. Noting that the debtor was in default, no
    forbearance agreement was in place, and the letters offered to
    discuss foreclosure alternatives and requested financial
    information, the court concluded that the first of the letters
    was the “opening communication in an attempt to collect [the
    debtor’s] defaulted home loan — by settlement or otherwise.
    Though it did not explicitly ask for payment, it was an offer
    to discuss [the debtor’s] repayment options, which qualifies
    as a communication in connection with an attempt to collect a
    debt.” Id. at 386.
    The Sixth Circuit adopted the Seventh Circuit’s
    approach in Grden v. Leikin Ingber & Winters PC, 
    643 F.3d 169
     (6th Cir. 2011). In Grden, a law firm filed a state-court
    debt-collection action. The firm sent the debtor a letter with
    an attachment that appeared to be a default-judgment motion.
    The debtor had not missed the deadline for answering the
    complaint. When the debtor called the law firm, it allegedly
    provided him with an incorrect account balance. The debtor
    filed an FDCPA claim. The law firm moved for summary
    judgment on the ground that the letter with the attachment
    and telephone call were not communications that attempted to
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    collect a debt.      The Sixth Circuit held that “for a
    communication to be in connection with the collection of a
    debt, an animating purpose of the communication must be to
    induce payment by the debtor.” Id. at 173 (citing Gburek,
    614 F.3d at 385). “[A] letter that is not itself a collection
    attempt, but that aims to make . . . such an attempt more
    likely to succeed, is one that has the requisite connection.”
    Id. The letter and document appearing to be a default-
    judgment motion gave rise to an FDCPA claim. The
    telephone call, however, did not give rise to an FDCPA claim
    because the debtor had initiated the call, and the statements
    by the person answering were “merely a ministerial response
    to a debtor inquiry, rather than part of a strategy to make
    payment more likely.” Id.
    Other circuits considering related questions have
    similarly held that the FDCPA applies to litigation-related
    activities that do not include an explicit demand for payment
    when the general purpose is to collect payment. See, e.g.,
    McCollough v. Johnson, Rodenburg & Lauinger, LLC, 
    637 F.3d 939
    , 952 (9th Cir. 2011) (“The district court correctly
    held that [the defendant’s] service of false requests for
    admission violated the FDCPA as a matter of law.”); Sayyed
    v. Wolpoff & Abramson, 
    485 F.3d 226
    , 228, 230–32 (4th Cir.
    2007) (holding that the FDCPA applied to allegedly
    erroneous statements made in interrogatories and a summary
    judgment motion during the course of a state-court debt-
    collection suit).
    Given Allen’s broad gloss on “communication” and the
    consistent analysis from other circuits described above, we
    reject the appellees’ argument that the letter and subpoena
    Weinstein & Riley sent each appellant was not a
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    “communication” from a “debt collector” made “in
    connection with the collection of [a] debt.” The letters stated
    that the Simons had defaulted on their credit obligations; FIA
    was considering filing adversary proceedings under 11 U.S.C.
    § 523 to challenge the dischargeability of their debt; Rule
    2004 examinations were scheduled to gather information
    about dischargeability; and the Simons were to bring personal
    financial information and documents to the Rule 2004
    examinations. The letters offered the Simons a way to avoid
    the Rule 2004 examinations and adversary proceedings by
    paying a reduced amount to settle the debt or by stipulating
    that the debt was nondischargeable. The letter and notice
    were an attempt to collect the Simons’ debt through the
    alternatives of settlement — including by partial payment —
    or gathering information to challenge dischargeability. The
    absence of an explicit payment demand does not take the
    communication outside the FDCPA.4
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    The appellees argue that the Simons’ FDCPA claims fail
    because the complaint did not sufficiently allege facts
    showing that they were “consumers” under the FDCPA. A
    “consumer” means “any natural person obligated or allegedly
    obligated to pay any debt.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(3). Because
    the asserted failure to plead “consumer” status was raised as a
    basis to dismiss for the first time on appeal, we need not
    address it. We do note that had the District Court been given
    the opportunity to address this claim and dismissed on this
    basis, the dismissal likely would have been with leave to
    amend. See Free Speech Coal., Inc. v. Att’y Gen., 
    677 F.3d 519
    , 545 (3d Cir. 2012) (“Leave to amend should be freely
    given when justice so requires, including for a curative
    amendment unless such an amendment would be inequitable
    or futile.”).
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    2. The Arguments that the Complaint Did
    Not Allege an FDCPA Claim
    a. The FDCPA Claims Based on Alleged
    Violations of Bankruptcy Rule 9016
    and Civil Rule 45
    The District Court found that several of the Simons’
    specific FDCPA allegations were contradicted by the
    language of the subpoenas Weinstein & Riley sent.5 The
    District Court rejected the Simons’ § 1692e(5) and (13)
    claims that the appellees violated the FDCPA because the
    subpoenas failed to disclose the method for recording the
    examination. The District Court noted that the statement in
    both subpoenas that “a certified court reporter or any other
    Notary Public or officer authorized by law to take
    The appellees also raise for the first time on appeal the
    sufficiency of the Simons’ allegations that Weinstein & Riley
    or FIA was a “debt collector” under the FDCPA. While
    attorneys such as Weinstein & Riley, who regularly use
    litigation to collect consumer debts owed to others are “debt
    collectors,” Heintz, 
    514 U.S. 291
    , original creditors are not,
    see Pollice v. Nat’l Tax Funding, L.P., 
    225 F.3d 379
    , 403 (3d
    Cir. 2000). Although this issue was not raised below and is
    not properly before us, whether FIA is a “debt collector” or a
    creditor may be an issue addressed on remand.
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    The Simons attached the letter and notice directed to each
    of them to their complaint. The letter and notice was properly
    considered by the District Court under Rule 12(b)(6) and are
    before us on appeal. Guidotti v. Legal Helpers Debt
    Resolution, L.L.C., 
    716 F.3d 764
    , 772 (3d Cir. 2013).
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    depositions” would be used for the Rule 2004 examinations
    was sufficient. Simon, 
    2012 WL 2891080
    , at *5. We will
    affirm this conclusion, but on a different ground. Cardona v.
    Bledsoe, 
    681 F.3d 533
    , 535 n.4 (3d Cir. 2012) (“We may
    affirm a district court for any reason supported by the record.”
    (alteration and internal quotation marks omitted)). We find
    that the failure to specify the recording method in the
    subpoena did not violate Bankruptcy Rule 9016 or Civil Rule
    45.
    Bankruptcy Rule 9016 provides that Civil Rule 45
    applies to subpoenas issued in bankruptcy cases. Civil Rule
    45(a)(1)(B) requires that “[a] subpoena commanding
    attendance at a deposition must state the method for recording
    the testimony” and applies to subpoenas for depositions.
    Courts have recognized that a Rule 2004 examination differs
    from a deposition, serving different purposes and subject to
    different procedures.6 See, e.g., In re J & R Trucking, Inc.,
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    Rule 2004 examinations, “typically implemented in the
    pre-litigation stage of a bankruptcy case, are subject to few of
    the procedural safeguards normally applicable to discovery
    under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.” In re Bakalis,
    
    199 B.R. 443
    , 447 (Bankr. E.D.N.Y. 1996); see also In re
    Bennett Funding Grp., Inc., 
    203 B.R. 24
    , 28 (Bankr.
    N.D.N.Y. 1996) (“As [Rule] 2004 is meant to give the
    inquiring party broad power to investigate the estate, it does
    not provide the procedural safeguards offered by [Bankruptcy
    Rule] 7026. For example, under a [Rule] 2004 examination, a
    witness has no general right to representation by counsel, and
    the right to object to immaterial or improper questions is
    limited.” (citations omitted)); In re Coffee Cupboard, Inc.,
    
    128 B.R. 509
    , 516 (Bankr. E.D.N.Y. 1991) (“These
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    431 B.R. 818
    , 821 (Bankr. N.D. Ind. 2010) (“Although a Rule
    2004 examination is obviously an investigatory device and it
    is conducted under oath, it should not be confused with
    discovery or a discovery deposition.”). Bankruptcy Rule
    2004(c) provides that “the attendance of an entity for
    examination . . . may be compelled as provided in Rule 9016
    for the attendance of a witness at a hearing or trial.” Civil
    Rule 45 does not require a subpoena for attendance at a
    hearing or trial to include a notice of the recording method.
    Civil Rule 45(a)(1)(B) and Bankruptcy Rule 9016 did not
    require the subpoenas Weinstein & Reilly sent to state the
    method for recording the Rule 2004 examinations.
    Accordingly, we will affirm the dismissal of the § 1692e(5)
    and (13) claims because there was no failure to comply with
    the rules.
    examinations have been likened and countenanced as fishing
    expeditions and inquisitions where procedural safeguards of
    witnesses are at a minimum.” (citations and internal quotation
    marks omitted)); In re Wilcher, 
    56 B.R. 428
    , 434 (Bankr.
    N.D. Ill. 1985) (“The proper mode of discovery which
    ordinarily must be utilized against a third party who may be
    liable to the bankruptcy estate for various wrongful acts is
    contained in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which
    provide numerous procedural safeguards against unfairness to
    the party from which discovery is sought. . . . By contrast,
    the procedural safeguards provided by Bankruptcy Rule 2004
    are minimal.”). At least one court has found that the
    Bankruptcy Rules do not “require [Rule 2004] examinations
    to be transcribed or transcripts to be filed.” In re Thow, 
    392 B.R. 860
    , 867 (Bankr. W.D. Wash. 2007).
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    The District Court also dismissed the Simons’ claims
    that the appellees violated § 1692e(5) and (13) of the FDCPA
    by issuing the subpoenas from the District of New Jersey for
    Rule 2004 examinations to be held in the Southern District of
    New York. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 45(a)(2)(A) (providing that a
    subpoena must issue “from the court for the district where the
    hearing or trial is to be held”). The District Court dismissed
    this FDCPA claim on the basis that there was no underlying
    rule violation, finding that the subpoenas did not “compel”
    the Simons to appear only in New York, as they alleged. The
    subpoenas stated that the examinations could take place
    “upon written request, at an alternate location to be agreed
    upon by the parties.” The Simons did not address on appeal
    the District Court’s ground for dismissing this claim, and we
    find no basis for reversal. We will affirm the dismissal of this
    claim.
    The District Court did not find, and the appellees do
    not argue, that the subpoenas met Civil Rule 45’s
    requirements that they be served directly on the individuals
    subpoenaed and include the text of Civil Rule 45(c) and (d).
    See Fed. R. Civ. P. 45(b)(1); (a)(1)(A)(iv). The District Court
    instead dismissed the § 1692e(5) and (13) claims arising from
    the violations of Civil Rule 45 on the basis of preclusion. The
    District Court dismissed the remaining FDCPA claim under
    § 1692e(11) on the basis that it failed to state a claim. This
    FDCPA claim, unlike the § 1692e(5) and (13) claims, does
    not depend on an underlying alleged violation of the
    Bankruptcy Rules.
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    b. The FDCPA Claim Based on the
    Failure to Include the “Mini-Miranda”
    Warning
    The District Court found that the letter sent to the
    Simons’ bankruptcy counsel did not violate the FDCPA
    because it “‘simply advised the attorney for the debtor that
    the Defendant debt collection agency believed that the debt
    might be non-dischargeable and it would like to settle the
    matter if the attorney for the debtor did not believe that there
    was a defense to the claim under 11 U.S.C. § 523(a)(2).’”
    Simon, 
    2012 WL 2891080
    , at *5 (quoting Villegas v.
    Weinstein & Riley, P.S., 
    723 F. Supp. 2d 755
    , 760–61 (M.D.
    Pa. 2010)). The Villegas court first held that the FDCPA does
    not apply to a debt collector’s communications to a debtor’s
    attorney. The court then held that to the extent that the
    FDCPA applies to such communications, they should be
    analyzed under a “competent lawyer” standard, not the “least
    sophisticated debtor” standard that ordinarily applies to a debt
    collector’s communications with a debtor. See Lesher v. Law
    Offices of Mitchell N. Kay, PC, 
    650 F.3d 993
    , 997 (3d Cir.
    2011) (“[W]e analyze communications from lenders to
    debtors from the perspective of the least sophisticated
    debtor.” (internal quotation marks omitted)). The Villegas
    court concluded that under the “competent lawyer” standard,
    a letter advising the debtor’s bankruptcy counsel of the desire
    to settle a potential adversary complaint did not violate the
    FDCPA. Villegas, 723 F. Supp. 2d at 760.
    The Simons contend that Villegas is not persuasive
    because of our decision in Allen, 629 F.3d at 364. Allen was
    a mortgage foreclosure lawsuit filed on a bank’s behalf
    against a borrower. At the request of the borrower’s attorney,
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    the bank’s attorney sent a letter quoting the amounts needed
    to pay off the loan, fees, and costs. Another letter sent the
    same day itemized the attorney’s fees and costs referred to in
    the previous letter. The borrower filed a class action under §
    1692f(1) of the FDCPA against the bank and the law firm,
    alleging that the letters misstated the charges the borrower
    owed and that the charges were neither authorized by contract
    nor permitted by law. The defendants moved to dismiss on
    the basis that the FDCPA does not cover a debt collector’s
    communication to a debtor’s attorney. The district court
    rejected this argument but granted the motion to dismiss
    because a competent attorney would have recognized the
    charges as incorrect. We reversed. Noting that the FDCPA
    defines “communication” broadly to include “the conveying
    of information regarding a debt directly or indirectly through
    any medium,” 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(2), we held that “[a]
    communication to a consumer’s attorney is undoubtedly an
    indirect communication to the consumer.” Id. at 368. We
    also held that the “competent attorney” standard did not apply
    to the debtor’s § 1692f(1) claim because “[t]he only inquiry
    under § 1692f(1) is whether the amount collected was
    expressly authorized by the agreement creating the debt or
    permitted by law.” Id. This inquiry did not turn on the
    reader’s sophistication.
    Allen did not articulate a competent-attorney standard
    for FDCPA claims arising out of communications to a
    consumer’s attorney.        But Allen’s reasoning supports
    rejecting the “competent attorney” standard for the §
    1692e(11) claim at issue here. The inquiry under § 1692e(11)
    is whether the “mini-Miranda” disclosure was required in the
    Weinstein & Reilly communications and, if so, provided.
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    The sophistication of the party receiving the communication
    is irrelevant to that inquiry.
    Allen also supports rejecting the “competent attorney”
    standard for the only part of the remaining § 1692e(5) and
    (13) claims that the parties have raised on appeal. These
    FDCPA claims are based on the allegations that the
    subpoenas failed to comply with Civil Rule 45, as
    incorporated by Bankruptcy Rule 9016 in two respects:
    because they were not served on the Simons directly, as
    required by Civil Rule 45(b)(1); and they did not include the
    text of Civil Rule 45(c)–(d), as required by Civil Rule
    45(a)(1)(A)(iv). Each claim requires two inquiries. The first
    inquiry is whether the subpoenas failed to comply with the
    rules, as alleged. The second is whether the alleged failures
    to comply also violated § 1692e(5) or (13) of the FDCPA.
    See LeBlanc v. Unifund CCR Partners, 
    601 F.3d 1185
    , 1192
    (11th Cir. 2010) (“[W]e do not hold that all debt collector
    actions in violation of state law constitute per se violations of
    the FDCPA. Rather, the conduct or communication at issue
    must also violate the relevant provision of the FDCPA.”).
    The District Court did not reach the second inquiry, and the
    parties do not address it on appeal. Instead, the District
    Court, and the parties on appeal, focused on whether the
    subpoenas violated the Rules, and did not discuss whether, if
    so, that is enough to state a claim under the FDCPA. The
    sophistication of the party receiving Weinstein & Riley’s
    communications is irrelevant to determining the subpoena’s
    compliance with Civil Rule 45 and Bankruptcy Rule 9016,
    which is the only inquiry before us on appeal. The
    “competent attorney” standard is not relevant to this inquiry.
    The District Court dismissed these two remaining § 1692e
    claims on the basis of preclusion by the Bankruptcy Code,
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    without reaching the question whether, if the subpoenas
    violated Civil Rule 45 and Bankruptcy Rule 9016, that was
    enough to violate the FDCPA. We will reverse the preclusion
    ruling without resolving whether the alleged failures to
    comply with Civil Rule 45, as incorporated by Bankruptcy
    Rule 9016, also state claims under § 1692e(5) and (13) of the
    FDCPA.
    c. The Allegations that State an FDCPA
    Claim
    In sum, we affirm the dismissal of the Simons’ §
    1692e(5) and (13) claims based on alleged violations of Civil
    Rule 45 and Bankruptcy Rule 9016 for failing to identify the
    recording method in the Rule 2004 examination subpoenas
    and for issuing the subpoenas from a district other than where
    the Rule 2004 examinations were to be held.
    The remaining FDCPA claims are the § 1692e(5) and
    (13) claims for violating Civil Rule 45(b)(1) by failing to
    serve the subpoenas directly on the individuals subpoenaed
    and Rule 45(a)(1)(A)(iv) by failing to include the text of Civil
    Rule 45(c)-(d), and the § 1692e(11) claim for failing to
    include the mini-Miranda warning in the letters and
    subpoenas. We now consider whether the Bankruptcy Code
    precludes those claims.
    B. The Relationship Between the Bankruptcy             Code
    and the FDCPA
    22
    Appellees argue that if any of the Simons’ claims
    survive dismissal, the Bankruptcy Code and Rules precludes
    them. The Simons contend that there is no basis to find that
    the Bankruptcy Code and Rules preclude their FDCPA
    claims. We have not previously addressed whether, or to
    what extent, an FDCPA claim can arise from a debt
    collector’s communications to a debtor in a pending
    bankruptcy proceeding. The appellate and trial courts have
    reached varying and sometimes inconsistent conclusions
    about whether and when the Bankruptcy Code precludes
    FDCPA claims arising from communications to a debtor sent
    in the bankruptcy context. Compare Simmons v. Roundup
    Funding, LLC, 
    622 F.3d 93
     (2d Cir. 2010); Walls v. Wells
    Fargo Bank, N.A., 
    276 F.3d 502
     (9th Cir. 2002); and B-Real,
    LLC v. Chaussee (In re Chaussee), 
    399 B.R. 225
     (9th Cir.
    B.A.P. 2008) (finding that FDCPA claims were precluded by
    the Bankruptcy Code), with Randolph v. IMBS, Inc., 
    368 F.3d 726
     (7th Cir. 2004) (finding the FDCPA claims not
    precluded).7
    7
    District court and bankruptcy court decisions addressing
    the relationship between the FDCPA and Bankruptcy Code
    and Rules have proliferated over the last decade. Published
    decisions finding that FDCPA claims were not precluded by
    the Bankruptcy Code include Gamble v. Fradkin & Weber,
    P.A., 
    846 F. Supp. 2d 377
    , 381–83 (D. Md. 2012)
    (postdischarge collection); Rios v. Bakalar & Assocs., P.A.,
    
    795 F. Supp. 2d 1368
    , 1369–70 (S.D. Fla. 2011)
    (postdischarge collection); Clark v. Brumbaugh & Quandahl,
    P.C., LLO, 
    731 F. Supp. 2d 915
    , 919–21 (D. Neb. 2010)
    (automatic stay and discharge injunction violations); Kline v.
    Mortg. Elec. Sec. Sys., 
    659 F. Supp. 2d 940
    , 949–51 (S.D.
    Ohio 2009) (inflated proof of claim); Bacelli v. MFP, Inc.,
    23
    
    729 F. Supp. 2d 1328
    , 1336–37 (M.D. Fla. 2010) (automatic
    stay and discharge injunction violations); Evans v. Midland
    Funding LLC, 
    574 F. Supp. 2d 808
    , 816–17 (S.D. Ohio 2008)
    (postdischarge collection); Dougherty v. Wells Fargo Home
    Loans, Inc., 
    425 F. Supp. 2d 599
    , 604–06 (E.D. Pa. 2006)
    (postdischarge collection); Marshall v. PNC Bank, N.A. (In re
    Marshall), 
    491 B.R. 217
    , 224–27 (Bankr. S.D. Ohio 2012)
    (postdischarge collection); Atwood v. GE Money Bank (In re
    Atwood), 
    452 B.R. 249
    , 251–53 (Bankr. D.N.M. 2011)
    (automatic stay violation); Price v. Am.’s Servicing Co. (In re
    Price), 
    403 B.R. 775
    , 790 n.14 (Bankr. E.D. Ark. 2009)
    (inflated proof of claim); Gunter v. Columbus Check
    Cashiers, Inc. (In re Gunter), 
    334 B.R. 900
    , 903–05 (Bankr.
    S.D. Ohio 2005) (postdischarge collection); and Molloy v.
    Primus Auto. Fin. Servs., 
    247 B.R. 804
    , 820–21 (C.D. Cal.
    2000) (postdischarge collection).
    Published decisions finding that FDCPA claims were
    precluded by the Bankruptcy Code include Jenkins v. Genesis
    Fin. Solutions (In re Jenkins), 
    456 B.R. 236
    , 240 (Bankr.
    E.D.N.C. 2011) (proof of claim for time-barred debt);
    McMillen v. Syndicated Office Sys., Inc. (In re McMillen),
    
    440 B.R. 907
    , 911–13 (Bankr. N.D. Ga. 2010) (inflated proof
    of claim); B-Real, LLC v. Rogers (In re Rogers), 
    405 B.R. 428
    , 430–34 (M.D. La. 2009), rev’g, 
    391 B.R. 317
    , 325–26
    (Bankr. M.D. La. 2008) (proof of claim for time-barred debt);
    Gilliland v. Capital One Bank (In re Gilliland), 
    386 B.R. 622
    ,
    623–24 (Bankr. N.D. Miss. 2008) (inflated proof of claim);
    Williams v. Asset Acceptance, LLC (In re Williams), 
    392 B.R. 882
    , 885–87 (Bankr. M.D. Fla. 2008) (time-barred proof of
    claim); Middlebrooks v. Interstate Credit Control, Inc., 
    391 B.R. 434
    , 436–37 (D. Minn. 2008) (proof of claim for time-
    24
    barred debt); Pariseau v. Asset Acceptance, LLC (In re
    Pariseau), 
    395 B.R. 492
    , 493–94 (Bankr. M.D. Fla. 2008)
    (false proof of claim); Rice–Etherly v. Bank One (In re Rice–
    Etherly), 
    336 B.R. 308
    , 311–13 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. 2006)
    (inflated proof of claim); Necci v. Universal Fid. Corp., 
    297 B.R. 376
    , 379–81 (E.D.N.Y. 2003) (postdischarge collection);
    Cooper v. Litton Loan Servicing (In re Cooper), 
    253 B.R. 286
    , 291–92 (Bankr. N.D. Fla. 2000) (inflated proof of
    claim); and Gray–Mapp v. Sherman, 
    100 F. Supp. 2d 810
    ,
    813–14 (N.D. Ill. 1999) (inflated proof of claim); see also
    Jacques v. U.S. Bank N.A. (In re Jacques), 
    416 B.R. 63
    , 74–
    81 (Bankr. E.D.N.Y. 2009) (proof of claim for time-barred
    debt); Wan v. Discover Fin. Servs., Inc., 
    324 B.R. 124
    , 127
    (N.D. Cal. 2005) (failure to follow FDCPA debt-verification
    procedures). Cf. Adair v. Sherman, 
    230 F.3d 890
    , 896 (7th
    Cir. 2000) (finding that issue preclusion prevents relitigation
    through the FDCPA of the amount of a debt after a
    bankruptcy court confirmed the proof of claim for the debt in
    an earlier bankruptcy proceeding).        Many unpublished
    decisions also address whether the Bankruptcy Code and
    Rules preclude FDCPA claims.
    Similar issues have arisen in cases involving
    bankruptcy debtors asserting violations of the Real Estate
    Settlement Practices Act (RESPA), 12 U.S.C. §§ 2605 et seq.,
    and Regulation X, 24 C.F.R. § 3500. See, e.g., Conley v.
    Cent. Mortg. Co., 
    414 B.R. 157
    , 159–61 (E.D. Mich. 2009)
    (RESPA applies in bankruptcy); Laskowski v. Ameriquest
    Mortg. Co. (In re Laskowski), 
    384 B.R. 518
    , 528 (Bankr.
    N.D. Ind. 2008) (RESPA applies in bankruptcy); Figard v.
    PHH Mortg. Corp. (In re Figard), 
    382 B.R. 695
    , 710–12
    (Bankr. W.D. Pa. 2008) (RESPA applies in bankruptcy);
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    The Ninth Circuit has taken a broad approach, holding
    that a debt collector’s communications to a consumer debtor
    in the context of a bankruptcy proceeding cannot be the basis
    for an FDCPA claim. In Walls v. Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.,
    
    276 F.3d 502
    , a debtor sued a bank for attempting to collect a
    debt that had been discharged in bankruptcy. The Ninth
    Circuit concluded that the debtor’s FDCPA claim was barred
    because it was “based on an alleged violation of § 524” and
    consideration of it “necessarily entails bankruptcy-laden
    determinations.” Id. at 510. To decide the FDCPA claim, the
    district court would first need to address issues typically
    decided by a bankruptcy court. These issues included
    whether the debtor’s payments were “voluntary” under §
    524(f) and whether she was required to enter a reaffirmation
    agreement under § 524(c). Id. The Ninth Circuit also found
    that the bankruptcy court’s contempt power allowed the
    debtor to enforce the discharge injunction, removing the need
    to invoke the FDCPA.
    In dismissing the FDCPA claim, the Ninth Circuit
    observed that a “‘ mere browse through the complex, detailed,
    and comprehensive provisions of the lengthy Bankruptcy
    Payne v. Mortg. Elec. Registration Sys., Inc. (In re Payne),
    
    387 B.R. 614
    , 634 (Bankr. D. Kan. 2008) (RESPA applies in
    bankruptcy); Holland v. EMC Mortg. Corp. (In re Holland),
    
    374 B.R. 409
    , 440–43 (Bankr. D. Mass. 2007) (RESPA
    applies in bankruptcy); Rodriguez v. R & G Mortg. Corp. (In
    re Rodriguez), 
    377 B.R. 1
    , 7–8 (Bankr. D.P.R. 2007) (RESPA
    applies in bankruptcy); Ameriquest Mortg. Co. v. Nosek (In re
    Nosek), 
    354 B.R. 331
    , 338–39 (D. Mass. 2006) (RESPA does
    not apply in bankruptcy); see also Jacques, 416 B.R. at 70–74
    (declining to decide the issue).
    26
    Code . . . demonstrates Congress’s intent to create a whole
    system under federal control which is designed to bring
    together and adjust all of the rights and duties of creditors and
    embarrassed debtors alike.’” Id. (quoting MSR Exploration,
    Ltd. v. Meridian Oil, Inc., 
    74 F.3d 910
    , 914 (9th Cir. 1996)).
    The Walls court concluded that allowing an FDCPA claim
    based on a violation of the Bankruptcy Code’s discharge
    injunction would “circumvent the remedial scheme of the
    Code under which Congress struck a balance between the
    interests of debtors and creditors by permitting (and limiting)
    debtors’ remedies for violating the discharge injunction to
    contempt.” Id.8
    In In re Chaussee, 
    399 B.R. 225
    , the Ninth Circuit
    Bankruptcy Appellate Panel similarly concluded that filing
    allegedly time-barred proofs of claim in a pending bankruptcy
    case was not actionable under the FDCPA. Relying on Walls
    and MSR Exploration, the court found that “where the Code
    and Rules provide a remedy for acts taken in violation of their
    terms, debtors may not resort to other state and federal
    remedies to redress their claims lest the congressional scheme
    behind the bankruptcy laws and their enforcement be
    frustrated.” Id. at 236–37.
    8
    The District Court noted that in In re Joubert, 
    411 F.3d 452
     (3d Cir. 2005), we cited approvingly the Ninth Circuit’s
    holding in Walls that 11 U.S.C. § 105(a) does not create an
    implied private right of action to remedy violations of the
    discharge injunction. Simon, 
    2012 WL 2891080
    , at *2 (citing
    In re Joubert, 411 F.3d at 456). As the District Court
    acknowledged, however, we have not ruled whether the
    Bankruptcy Code precludes FDCPA claims.
    27
    In addition to this categorical basis, the Chaussee court
    also found that an FDCPA claim based on a proof of claim
    filed in a pending bankruptcy would create direct conflicts
    with the Bankruptcy Code. The Chaussee court explained:
    [a]ttempting to reconcile the debt validation
    procedure contemplated by FDCPA with the
    claims     objection    process    under     the
    [Bankruptcy] Code results in the sort of
    confusion and conflicts that persuades us that
    Congress intended that FDCPA be precluded in
    the context of bankruptcy cases. We fail to
    understand how [a debt collector] could comply
    with FDCPA § 1692g and its various notice and
    informational requirements because those
    provisions conflict with the Code and Rules.
    Id. at 239. The FDCPA requires a debt collector to include a
    notice of the debtor’s rights within five days of the initial
    communication to the debtor. 15 U.S.C. § 1692g(a). The
    Bankruptcy Code’s automatic stay provision prevents
    collection steps after a bankruptcy case is filed. A debt
    collector could not satisfy the FDCPA by including the notice
    of rights in a proof of claim, because “a communication in the
    form of a formal pleading” is not an “initial communication”
    under the FDCPA. If a debt collector had to send the notice
    of rights to a debtor in a pending bankruptcy case to avoid an
    FDCPA claim, that communication could violate the
    automatic stay. To omit the notice in order to avoid violating
    the stay could violate the FDCPA. This conflict was a
    specific, and narrower, basis for finding that the FDCPA
    claim could not proceed.
    28
    The Second Circuit reached a similar result in
    Simmons v. Roundup Funding, LLC, 
    622 F.3d 93
    , but without
    taking a broad analytical approach. The debtors in Simmons
    filed an FDCPA claim alleging that the defendant debt
    collector had filed an inflated proof of claim in their
    bankruptcy proceeding. The Second Circuit held that the
    debtors had no FDCPA claim, stating that “[t]here is no need
    to protect debtors who are already under the protection of the
    bankruptcy court, and there is no need to supplement the
    remedies afforded by bankruptcy itself.” Id. at 96. The
    Bankruptcy Code provided both a mechanism to challenge
    proofs of claim and remedies if they were improperly filed,
    including by revoking fraudulent proofs of claim and by
    invoking the bankruptcy court’s contempt power. Id. But the
    Second Circuit noted that while some courts “have ruled more
    broadly that no FDCPA action can be based on an act that
    violates any provision of the Bankruptcy Code, because such
    violations are dealt with exclusively by the Bankruptcy
    Code[,] . . . we are not compelled to consider [that rule] in
    this case.” Id. n.2 (citations omitted).
    The Seventh Circuit in Randolph v. IMBS, Inc., 
    368 F.3d 726
    , took a different approach. In Randolph, the court
    considered consolidated appeals involving FDCPA claims
    arising from attempts to collect debts that violated the
    automatic stay. The district courts dismissed the FDCPA
    claims on the ground that they were “precluded” or
    “preempted” by the Bankruptcy Code. The Seventh Circuit
    reversed, explaining that “[w]hen two federal statutes address
    the same subject in different ways, the right question is
    whether one implicitly repeals the other.” Id. at 730. Repeal
    requires either an “irreconcilable conflict between the statutes
    or a clearly expressed legislative decision that one replace the
    29
    other.” The court emphasized that repeal by implication “is a
    rare bird indeed.” Id. The Seventh Circuit found no
    irreconcilable conflict between the FDCPA prohibitions and
    the Bankruptcy Code’s discharge injunction and automatic
    stay provisions, and no clearly expressed congressional
    statement that the Code preclude FDCPA claims arising in
    bankruptcy. Although the Bankruptcy Code and FDCPA
    provisions at issue in Randolph overlapped, the court found
    that because “[i]t is easy to enforce both statutes, and any
    debt collector can comply with both simultaneously,” the
    FDCPA claim could proceed. Id. at 730.
    We will follow the Seventh Circuit’s approach. When,
    as here, FDCPA claims arise from communications a debt
    collector sends a bankruptcy debtor in a pending bankruptcy
    proceeding, and the communications are alleged to violate the
    Bankruptcy Code or Rules, there is no categorical preclusion
    of the FDCPA claims. When, as is also the case here, the
    FDCPA claim arises from communications sent in a pending
    bankruptcy proceeding and there is no allegation that the
    communications violate the Code or Rules, there is even less
    reason for categorical preclusion. The proper inquiry for both
    circumstances is whether the FDCPA claim raises a direct
    conflict between the Code or Rules and the FDCPA, or
    whether both can be enforced.
    This approach is consistent with Supreme Court
    precedents recognizing a presumption against the implied
    repeal of one federal statute by another. “‘[W]hen two
    statutes are capable of coexistence, it is the duty of the courts,
    absent a clearly expressed congressional intention to the
    contrary, to regard each as effective.’” J.E.M. Ag Supply, Inc.
    v. Pioneer Hi-Bred Intern., Inc., 
    534 U.S. 124
    , 143–44 (2001)
    30
    (quoting Morton v. Mancari, 
    417 U.S. 535
    , 551 (1974)).
    “Redundancies across statutes are not unusual events in
    drafting, and so long as there is no ‘positive repugnancy’
    between two laws, a court must give effect to both.” Conn.
    Nat’l Bank v. Germain, 
    503 U.S. 249
    , 253 (1992) (citation
    and internal quotation marks omitted). Nor is “a statute
    dealing with a narrow, precise, and specific subject . . .
    submerged by a later enacted statute covering a more
    generalized spectrum.” Radzanower v. Touche Ross & Co.,
    
    426 U.S. 148
    , 153 (1976). The Supreme Court has repeatedly
    held that “‘[r]epeals by implication are not favored and will
    not be presumed unless the intention of the legislature to
    repeal [is] clear and manifest.’” Hawaii v. Office of
    Hawaiian Affairs, 
    556 U.S. 163
    , 175 (2009) (quoting Nat’l
    Assn. of Home Builders v. Defenders of Wildlife, 
    551 U.S. 644
    , 662 (2007)) (second alteration in original); see also
    Branch v. Smith, 
    538 U.S. 254
    , 273 (2003); Posadas v. Nat’l
    City Bank of N.Y., 
    296 U.S. 497
    , 503 (1936). Courts should
    “not infer a statutory repeal unless the later statute expressly
    contradicts the original act or unless such a construction is
    absolutely necessary in order that the words of the later
    statute shall have any meaning at all.” Nat’l Ass’n of Home
    Builders, 551 U.S. at 662 (alterations and internal quotations
    marks omitted); see also Branch, 538 U.S. at 273 (“An
    implied repeal will only be found where provisions in two
    statutes are in irreconcilable conflict, or where the latter Act
    covers the whole subject of the earlier one and is clearly
    intended as a substitute.” (internal quotation marks omitted)).
    In contrast to its consistently strict application of the
    presumption against finding an implied repeal of one federal
    statute by another, the Supreme Court has shown a greater
    willingness to find that federal statutes and regulations
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    preempt state-law causes of action. See, e.g., Gade v. Nat’l
    Solid Wastes Mgmt. Ass’n, 
    505 U.S. 88
    , 98 (1992) (applying
    conflict preemption because “compliance with both federal
    and state regulations is a physical impossibility or where state
    law stands as an obstacle to the accomplishment and
    execution of the full purposes and objectives of Congress”
    (citations and internal quotation marks omitted)); see also
    Kurns v. R.R. Friction Prods. Corp., — U.S. —, 
    132 S. Ct. 1261
    , 1266 (2012) (applying field preemption “‘when the
    scope of a [federal] statute indicates that Congress intended
    federal law to occupy a field exclusively’” (quoting
    Freightliner Corp. v. Myrick, 
    514 U.S. 280
    , 287 (1995)
    (alterations in original))); Arizona v. United States, — U.S. —
    , 
    132 S. Ct. 2492
    , 2501 (2012) (“The intent to displace state
    law altogether can be inferred from a framework of regulation
    so pervasive . . . that Congress left no room for the States to
    supplement it or where there is a federal interest . . . so
    dominant that the federal system will be assumed to preclude
    enforcement of state laws on the same subject.” (citation and
    internal quotation marks omitted)).
    In Walls, the Ninth Circuit cited MSR Exploration, a
    preemption decision, to support finding that the Code
    precluded the FDCPA claims. 276 F.3d at 510 (citing MSR
    Exploration, 74 F.3d at 914). But as the Seventh Circuit
    correctly noted, the Ninth Circuit’s reliance on a precedent
    involving federal statutory preemption of a state-law claim to
    decide whether a federal statute precludes a federal-law claim
    is misplaced. Randolph, 368 F.3d at 733; see also J.E.M.,
    534 U.S. at 144 (rejecting the argument that “when [federal]
    statutes overlap and purport to protect the same commercially
    valuable attribute of a thing, such ‘dual protection’ cannot
    exist”).
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    We also note that the Supreme Court has applied a
    federal statute to bankruptcy suits despite the existence of
    another, bankruptcy-specific, federal statute covering the
    same ground. In Connecticut National Bank v. Germain, 
    503 U.S. 249
     (1992), the Court considered the appealability of a
    district court’s interlocutory order in a bankruptcy appeal.
    The issue was the relationship between 28 U.S.C. §§ 1292
    and 1291, which give appellate courts jurisdiction over
    district-court orders and final judgments, and 28 U.S.C. §
    158(d), which gives appellate courts jurisdiction over appeals
    from district courts’ final judgments in bankruptcy cases but
    is silent about jurisdiction over other appeals from orders.
    The bankruptcy trustee argued that appellate jurisdiction over
    interlocutory bankruptcy orders could not be proper under 28
    U.S.C. § 1292, because applying the general appellate
    jurisdiction statutes (§§ 1291 and 1292) to bankruptcy would
    make the bankruptcy appellate jurisdiction statue (§ 158(d))
    superfluous. The trustee argued that interlocutory orders
    were not appealable beyond the district court because §
    158(d) did not give courts of appeals jurisdiction. While
    acknowledging that § 158(d) made § 1291 redundant in
    bankruptcy cases, the Supreme Court rejected the view that
    the courts of appeals lacked appellate jurisdiction under §
    1292. “Because giving effect to both §§ 1291 and 158(d)
    would not render one or the other wholly superfluous, we do
    not have to read § 158(d) as precluding courts of appeals, by
    negative implication, from exercising jurisdiction under §
    1291 [or § 1292] over district courts sitting in bankruptcy.”
    Germain, 503 U.S. at 253.
    In Things Remembered, Inc. v. Petrarca, 
    516 U.S. 124
    (1994), the Court again considered whether a general
    33
    jurisdictional statute could apply when a more specific
    bankruptcy jurisdiction statute addressed the same subject.
    After filing for bankruptcy protection, a debtor removed a
    state-court suit to federal court under both the bankruptcy
    removal statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1452(a), and the general federal
    removal statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1441(a). In considering the
    state-court plaintiff’s remand motion, the bankruptcy court
    held that although the removal was untimely under the
    bankruptcy removal statute and Federal Rule of Bankruptcy
    Procedure 9027, removal was timely under the general federal
    removal statute and § 1446. The bankruptcy court concluded
    that, as a result, removal was proper and there was federal
    jurisdiction over the suit. On appeal, the district court
    reversed, finding removal under both the general and
    bankruptcy removal statutes to be untimely. The Sixth
    Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed the subsequent appeal for
    lack of appellate jurisdiction under §§ 1447(d) and 1452(b).
    The Supreme Court affirmed the Sixth Circuit’s dismissal.
    The Supreme Court found that § 1447(d) barred appellate
    review of remand orders regardless of whether the case was
    removed under the general removal statute or under the
    bankruptcy removal statute. The Court explained that
    “[t]here is no express indication in § 1452 that Congress
    intended that statute to be the exclusive provision governing
    removals and remands in bankruptcy. Nor is there any reason
    to infer from § 1447(d) that Congress intended to exclude
    bankruptcy cases from its coverage.” Things Remembered,
    Inc., 516 U.S. at 129. This conclusion was not affected by
    “[t]he fact that § 1452 contains its own provision governing
    certain types of remands in bankruptcy.” Id. Because
    “[t]here is no reason §§ 1447(d) and 1452 cannot comfortably
    coexist in the bankruptcy context,” the Court explained that it
    was required to “give effect to both.” Id.
    34
    The Supreme Court has also been reluctant to limit the
    FDCPA because other, preexisting rules and remedies may
    also apply to the conduct alleged to violate the Act. In
    Heintz, 514 U.S. at 291, an attorney sued in state court to
    recover money allegedly owed to the firm’s client. The state-
    court defendant sued the attorney in federal court, alleging an
    FDCPA violation for the attorney’s effort to collect an
    amount not “authorized by the agreement creating the debt,”
    15 U.S.C. § 1692f(1), and for making a false representation of
    the amount of the debt, § 1692e(2)(A). As noted above, the
    case eventually reached the Supreme Court, which held that
    the term “debt collector” includes an attorney who regularly,
    through litigation, attempts to collect consumer debts. The
    creditor’s attorney argued that applying the FDCPA to
    litigation activity would create “harmfully anomalous results
    that Congress simply could not have intended.” Heintz, 514
    U.S. at 295. The attorney argued that § 1692c(c), which
    provides that a debt collector may not “communicate further”
    with a debtor who requests that the collector “cease further
    communication,” would prevent an attorney from suing a
    debtor, initiating settlement discussions, or filing dispositive
    motions.      The Court refused to read the FDCPA as
    prohibiting suits to collect debts. “[I]t is easier to read §
    1692c(c) as containing some such additional, implicit,
    exception than to believe that Congress intended, silently and
    implicitly, to create a far broader exception, for all litigating
    attorneys, from the Act itself.” Id. at 297. The Court noted
    that many litigation activities would be authorized under the
    exception that a debt collector may “‘notify the consumer that
    the debt collector or creditor may invoke’ or ‘intends to
    invoke’ a ‘specified remedy’ (of a kind ‘ordinarily invoked by
    [the] debt collector or creditor’).” Id. at 296 (quoting 15
    35
    U.S.C. § 1692c(c)(2), (3)). The Supreme Court held that the
    FDCPA applied despite the availability during litigation of
    judicial oversight, due-process protections, detailed
    procedural rules, and remedies to curtail and punish improper
    actions by creditors’ attorneys.9 As the Seventh Circuit
    observed on remand, “[t]here is no stated exclusivity in the
    FDCPA as the means to redress collections errors. State law
    sanctions (the equivalent of Fed. R. Civ. P. 11) apply to
    defendants in their capacity as lawyers, and do so jointly with
    9
    In Heintz, the Supreme Court stated that it was abrogating
    Green v. Hocking, 
    9 F.3d 18
     (6th Cir. 1993), a Sixth Circuit
    decision finding that an attorney could not be subject to the
    FDCPA for actions he took in the course of litigation. 514
    U.S. at 294. The Sixth Circuit had found that applying the
    FDCPA to litigation conduct would “contravene[] the
    elaborate control on lawyers’ conduct through the Rule 11
    process.” Green, 9 F.3d at 22. The appeals court noted that
    the trial court had discretion to order sanctions under Rule 11
    because a “basic inquiry would have shown that [the factual
    basis for the suit] was inaccurate.” Id. It explained that the
    mandatory relief imposed by the FDCPA would encroach on
    a trial court’s discretion under Rule 11 “to regulate its
    forum.” Id. The court concluded that it was “unwilling to
    impose a system of strict liability that conflicts with the
    current system of judicial regulation.” Id. The Sixth
    Circuit’s position in Green is almost identical to the positions
    advocated by the appellees in this case and adopted by the
    Second Circuit, in Simmons, and Ninth Circuit, in Walls. We
    decline to adopt in the bankruptcy context the same positions
    that, in the general litigation context, failed to persuade the
    Supreme Court.
    36
    the Act.” Jenkins v. Heintz, 
    124 F.3d 824
    , 834 (7th Cir.
    1997).
    The appellees contend that another Supreme Court
    decision, Kokoszka v. Belford, 
    417 U.S. 642
    , 651 (1974),
    compels the conclusion that the FDCPA’s scope ends where
    the Bankruptcy Code’s begins. Kokoszka addressed whether
    the Consumer Credit Protection Act’s (CCPA) limits on wage
    garnishment would exempt from bankruptcy protection part
    of a debtor’s income tax refund.10 To be exempt, a refund
    would have to be classified as “earnings.” The Court found
    that “earnings” “did not include a tax refund, but [was]
    limited to ‘periodic payments of compensation and [did] not
    pertain to every asset that is traceable in some way to such
    compensation.’” Id. at 651 (quoting In re Kokoszka, 
    479 F.3d 990
    , 997 (2d Cir. 1973)).11 As a result, tax refunds were not
    10
    Section 1673(a) and (a)(1) of the CCPA provide that “the
    maximum part of the aggregate disposable earnings of an
    individual for any workweek which is subjected to
    garnishment may not exceed . . . 25 per centum of his
    disposable earnings for that week.”
    11
    The CCPA defines “earnings” as “compensation paid or
    payable for personal services, whether denominated as wages,
    salary, commission, bonus, or otherwise, and includes
    periodic payments pursuant to a pension or retirement
    program.”     15 U.S.C. § 1672(a) (1968).         It defines
    “disposable earnings” as “that part of the earnings of any
    individual remaining after the deduction from those earnings
    of any amounts required by law to be withheld.” Id. §
    1672(b) (1968).      “Garnishment” means “any legal or
    equitable procedure through which the earnings of any
    37
    covered by the CCPA garnishment provisions. In interpreting
    those provisions, the Court looked to the CCPA’s purpose
    and legislative history. The Court explained that in enacting
    the CCPA, Congress sought to reduce the need for
    bankruptcy but did not seek to regulate the bankruptcy
    process:
    An examination of the legislative
    history     of     the      Consumer
    Protection Act makes it clear that,
    while it was enacted against the
    background of the Bankruptcy
    Act, it was not intended to alter
    the clear purpose of the latter Act
    to assemble, once a bankruptcy
    petition is filed, all of the debtor’s
    assets for the benefit of his
    creditors.      Indeed, Congress’
    concern        was        not      the
    administration of a bankrupt’s
    estate but the prevention of
    bankruptcy in the first place by
    eliminating “an essential element
    in the predatory extension of
    credit resulting in a disruption of
    employment, production, as well
    as consumption” and a consequent
    increase in personal bankruptcies.
    . . . [I]f, despite its protection,
    bankruptcy did occur, the debtor’s
    individual are required to be withheld for payment of any
    debt.” Id. § 1672(c) (1968).
    38
    protection and remedy remained
    under the Bankruptcy Act.
    Id. at 650–51 (citations and footnotes omitted).
    The appellees argue that because Congress passed the
    FDCPA as an amendment to the CCPA,12 the Supreme
    Court’s conclusion about the CCPA’s garnishment provisions
    applies with equal force to the FDCPA. We disagree. As the
    Seventh Circuit recognized in Randolph, the Supreme Court’s
    broad pronouncements about the CCPA’s relationship to the
    Bankruptcy Code were at minimum dicta and at most a gloss
    on the CCPA’s ambiguous definitions of “earnings” and
    “garnishment.” Randolph, 368 F.3d at 731 (finding that the
    Supreme Court’s discussion in Kokoszka on the relationship
    between the CCPA and Bankruptcy Act was “not expressed
    as a holding”). Unlike the CCPA’s garnishment provisions,
    the FDCPA “regulates how debt collectors interact with
    debtors, and not what assets are made available to which
    creditors and how much is left for debtors (the principal
    subjects of the Bankruptcy Code).” Id. As a result, the
    Supreme Court’s conclusions in Kokoszka about the
    relationship between the Bankruptcy Code and the CCPA’s
    garnishment provisions do not apply to the relationship
    between the Code and the FDCPA.
    Finding no broad categorical preclusion, we turn to the
    narrower question of whether the Simons’ specific allegations
    present such a conflict with the Bankruptcy Code and Rules
    as to preclude their FDCPA claims.
    12
    Pub. L. 95-109; 91 Stat. 874, codified as 15 U.S.C. § 1692–
    1692p.
    39
    C. The Relationship Between the FDCPA §
    1692e(5) and (13) Claims and the Bankruptcy
    Code and Rules
    The Simons’ remaining claims under § 1692e(5) and
    (13) of the FDCPA are based on alleged violations of
    subpoena requirements. Bankruptcy Rule 2004 permits a
    court, “[o]n motion of any party in interest . . . [to] order the
    examination of any entity.” Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2004(a). The
    Bankruptcy Rules specify how a creditor is to issue notice of,
    and conduct, a Rule 2004 examination. A Rule 2004
    examination may be used to cover a wide range of subjects
    relating “to the acts, conduct, or property or to the liabilities
    and financial condition of the debtor, or to any matter which
    may affect the administration of the debtor’s estate, or to the
    debtor’s right to a discharge.” Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2004(b); see
    also In re Enron Corp., 
    281 B.R. 836
    , 840 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y.
    2002) (“[C]ourts have recognized that Rule 2004
    examinations are broad and unfettered and in the nature of
    fishing expeditions.”). “The court may for cause shown and
    on terms as it may impose order the debtor to be examined
    under this rule at any time or place it designates, whether
    within or without the district wherein the case is pending.”
    Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2004(d). If the party to be examined is a
    debtor, and the debtor lives more than 100 miles from the
    place of examination, “the mileage allowed by law to a
    witness shall be tendered for any distance more than 100
    miles from the debtor’s residence at the date of the filing of
    the first petition commencing a case under the Code or the
    residence at the time the debtor is required to appear for the
    40
    examination, whichever is the lesser.” Fed. R. Bankr. P.
    2004(e). The District of New Jersey Local Bankruptcy Rules
    state that “[i]f a party from whom an examination or
    document production is sought under Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2004
    agrees to appear for examination or to produce documents
    voluntarily, no subpoena or Court order is required.” D.N.J.
    LBR 2004-1(a). But a party that serves a subpoena for a Rule
    2004 examination and document production may compel
    performance under Bankruptcy Rule 9016 and Civil Rule 45.
    See Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2004(c) (“The attendance of an entity
    for examination and for the production of documents, whether
    the examination is to be conducted within or without the
    district in which the case is pending, may be compelled as
    provided in Rule 9016 for the attendance of a witness at a
    hearing or trial. . . .”); see also Fed. R. Bankr. P. 9016 (“Rule
    45 F. R. Civ. P. applies in cases under the Code.”).
    To be valid, a subpoena must comply with Civil Rule
    45’s requirements. As the appellees point out, even if the
    Simons are correct that the Rule 2004 examination subpoenas
    at issue did not comply with Bankruptcy Rule 9016 and Civil
    Rule 45, the Simons have remedies for such noncompliance
    available under the Code and Rules. Under Civil Rule
    45(c)(2)(B)–(c)(3), a subpoena recipient may object or move
    to quash or modify a subpoena for several reasons, including
    that it fails to comply with Bankruptcy Rule 9016 and Civil
    Rule 45. In addition, a subpoena recipient may seek
    sanctions under the bankruptcy court’s civil contempt power.
    See In re Joubert, 
    411 F.3d 452
    , 455 (3d Cir. 2005) (stating
    that 11 U.S.C. § 105 provides bankruptcy courts with a
    contempt remedy); see also Bessette v. Avco Fin. Servs., Inc.,
    
    230 F.3d 439
    , 445 (1st Cir. 2000) (“[Section] 105 provides a
    bankruptcy court with statutory contempt powers, in addition
    41
    to whatever inherent contempt powers the court may have.
    Those contempt powers inherently include the ability to
    sanction a party.” (citations omitted)).
    The appellees have not shown, however, why the
    availability of these bankruptcy remedies would preclude the
    Simons’ FDCPA claims for violating Civil Rule 45 and
    Bankruptcy Rule 9016 subpoena rules by failing to serve the
    subpoenas directly on the individuals subpoenaed and failing
    to include the text of Civil Rule 45(c)–(d) in the subpoenas.
    The Simons moved to quash the subpoenas in the Bankruptcy
    Court. The Bankruptcy Court found the subpoenas defective
    and quashed them.         No conflict exists between these
    Bankruptcy Code or Rule obligations and the obligations the
    Simons seek to impose under the FDCPA. A creditor may
    comply with the obligations of Bankruptcy Rule 9016 and
    Civil Rule 45 on the one hand and with the FDCPA on the
    other. Nor is there a conflict between the remedies for
    noncompliance available in a bankruptcy court and the
    remedies available under the FDCPA. The fact that the
    bankruptcy court has other means to enforce compliance with
    the subpoena rules does not conflict with finding liability or
    awarding damages under the FDCPA for violations based on
    a debt collector’s failure to comply with the subpoena rules.
    As a result, we reverse the dismissal of the Simons’
    remaining FDCPA claims under § 1692e(5) and (13).
    D. The Relationship Between the FDCPA §
    1692e(11) Claim and the Bankruptcy Code and
    Rules
    The Simons’ claim under § 1692e(11) of the FDCPA
    leads to a different result. The Simons alleged that the
    42
    appellees are liable under the FDCPA because the letters and
    Rule 2004 examination subpoenas failed to disclose that they
    were sent by a debt collector attempting to collect a debt and
    that “any information obtained [would] be used for that
    purpose.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692e(11). The Bankruptcy Code’s
    automatic stay provision forbids “any act to collect, assess, or
    recover a claim against the debtor that arose before the
    commencement” of the bankruptcy proceeding. 11 U.S.C. §
    362(a)(6). Several courts have held that sending a §
    1692e(11) notice violates the automatic stay. See, e.g., Maloy
    v. Phillips, 
    197 B.R. 721
    , 723 (M.D. Ga. 1996); Divane v. A
    & C Elec. Co., Inc., 
    193 B.R. 856
    , 859 (N.D. Ill. 1996);
    Hubbard v. Nat’l Bond & Collection Assoc., Inc., 
    126 B.R. 422
    , 428–29 (D. Del. 1991). If, as the Simons argue, a
    § 1692e(11) claim could arise from the fact that the Weinstein
    & Riley letters and subpoenas did not include the “mini-
    Miranda” notice, the firm would violate the automatic stay
    provision of the Bankruptcy Code by including the notice or
    violate the FDCPA by not including the notice. This conflict
    precludes allowing a claim under § 1692e(11) for failing to
    include the “mini-Miranda” notice in the letters and Rule
    2004 examination subpoenas sent to the Simons through their
    bankruptcy counsel.13
    IV. Conclusion
    13
    We do not reach the question whether the subpoenas (but
    not the letters) are exempt from the § 1692e(11) notice
    requirements as “formal pleading[s] made in connection with
    a legal action.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692e(11). That is, we do not
    decide whether a Rule 2004 subpoena is an initial
    communication under § 1692e(11).
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    We will affirm in part and reverse in part the District
    Court’s dismissal of the Simons’ claims. We will affirm the
    dismissal of the Simons’ § 1692e(5) and (13) claims for
    allegedly violating the Civil Rule 45 and Bankruptcy Rule
    9016 subpoena rules by failing to identify the recording
    method in the Rule 2004 examination subpoenas and by
    issuing the subpoenas from a district other than where the
    examinations were to be held. We will affirm the dismissal
    of the Simons’ § 1692e(11) claim because the mini-Miranda
    requirement conflicts with the automatic stay provision of the
    Bankruptcy Code. We will reverse the dismissal of the
    Simons’ remaining § 1692e(5) and (13) claims for allegedly
    violating Civil Rule 45 and Bankruptcy Rule 9016 by failing
    to serve the subpoenas directly on the individuals subpoenaed
    and failing to include the text of Civil Rule 45(c)–(d) in the
    subpoenas, and we will remand.
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Docket Number: 12-3293

Citation Numbers: 732 F.3d 259

Judges: Greenaway, Rendell, Rosenthal

Filed Date: 10/7/2013

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 8/7/2023

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