Mokorya Wambura v. William Barr ( 2020 )


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  •                                     PUBLISHED
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FOURTH CIRCUIT
    No. 19-1360
    MOKORYA COSMAS WAMBURA,
    Petitioner,
    v.
    WILLIAM P. BARR, Attorney General,
    Respondent.
    On Petition for Review of an Order of the Board of Immigration Appeals.
    Argued: September 11, 2020                               Decided: November 13, 2020
    Before HARRIS, RICHARDSON, and QUATTLEBAUM, Circuit Judges.
    Petition for review granted in part, denied in part and remanded by published opinion.
    Judge Quattlebaum wrote the opinion, in which Judge Richardson joined. Judge Harris
    wrote a concurring opinion.
    ARGUED: Jeffrey A. Clair, LAW OFFICES OF JEFFREY CLAIR, Washington, D.C.,
    for Petitioner. Gregory A. Pennington, Jr., UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
    JUSTICE, Washington, D.C., for Respondent. ON BRIEF: Joseph H. Hunt, Assistant
    Attorney General, Carl McIntyre, Assistant Director, Office of Immigration Litigation,
    Civil Division, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, Washington, D.C., for
    Respondent.
    QUATTLEBAUM, Circuit Judge:
    In this appeal, we are presented with two questions related to aliens seeking
    protection under the United States immigration laws. First, once the requirements for
    removability are met, does the government have the burden to prove that the amount of
    loss caused by the alien’s fraud conviction is $10,000 or more for purposes of an alien’s
    eligibility for asylum and withholding of removal under the Immigration and Nationality
    Act (“INA”), and for protection under the Convention Against Torture (“CAT”)? Second,
    does 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(B) require an immigration judge (“IJ”) to: (1) provide an alien
    with advanced notice of the need to offer corroborating evidence, and (2) make a finding
    as to whether such corroborating evidence was reasonably available if the needed
    corroborating evidence was not provided?
    As to the first question, we conclude the burden of proof lies not with the
    government, but with the alien seeking relief from removal. As to the second, we conclude
    that advanced notice is not required, but that the IJ must make a finding on the availability
    of corroborating evidence as described below. Therefore, for the following reasons, we
    grant in part and deny in part the petition for review, and remand for further proceedings
    consistent with this opinion.
    I.
    Mokorya Cosmas Wambura (“Wambura”) is a native and citizen of Tanzania. He
    was admitted lawfully to the United States on a student visa and later became a lawful
    permanent resident in 2005. Approximately eight years later, Wambura was charged with
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    various crimes related to a conspiracy to fraudulently secure a residential mortgage loan
    and obtain federally subsidized rent using a stolen identity. Under this scheme, Wambura
    secured a mortgage in the amount of $375,000, and collected $29,186 in rent. Wambura
    ultimately pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud, aggravated identity theft and
    conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud. He was sentenced to 60 months in prison and
    ordered to pay $434,867.65 in restitution.
    Under the INA, a lawful permanent resident can be removed if convicted of certain
    crimes. 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2). After Wambura completed his sentence, the Department of
    Homeland Security (“DHS”) commenced removal proceedings against him based on his
    prior convictions. More specifically, the DHS charged that Wambura should be removed
    for two independent reasons: (1) he had been convicted of two crimes involving moral
    turpitude not arising out of a single scheme of criminal misconduct and (2) he had been
    convicted of an aggravated felony as defined in 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43)(M) relating to an
    offense that involves fraud or deceit in which the loss to the victims exceeds $10,000. A.R.
    427–29. 1
    Wambura, in turn, applied for asylum and withholding of removal under the INA
    and for protection under CAT. In seeking this relief, he claimed that he would be tortured
    if he returned to Tanzania because of his membership and role in Chadema, an opposition
    political party in that country. Wambura also applied for cancellation of removal.
    1
    The DHS filed an additional charge based on Wambura having been convicted of
    conspiracy to commit fraud as defined in 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43)(U). A.R. 409.
    3
    Wambura appeared at the removal hearing pro se although the IJ continued the
    hearing date several times to allow Wambura the opportunity to obtain counsel. The IJ
    concluded that Wambura was removable based on his aggravated felony and crime
    involving moral turpitude convictions and, because of those same convictions, he was
    ineligible for cancellation of removal or asylum.
    At a subsequent hearing to consider Wambura’s application for withholding of
    removal and protection under CAT, the IJ determined that, due to the length of his sentence
    under these convictions, Wambura was also ineligible for withholding of removal under
    either CAT or the INA. Thus, the only relief he could pursue was a deferral of removal
    under CAT.
    Pursuing such relief, Wambura testified that, while in the United States, he
    participated in activities involving Chadema. He explained his activities included serving
    as a leader in Chadema USA, organizing and participating in a demonstration protesting
    election results in Tanzania and writing letters to the United Nations and a blog about
    human rights violations in Tanzania. He testified that he believed that if returned to
    Tanzania, he would be tortured because of his relationship with Chadema. At the hearing,
    he acknowledged that his participation ended over five years ago when his prison sentence
    began. But Wambura claimed that his father recently told him he is being followed by the
    secret police in Tanzania.
    The issue of corroborating evidence arose at the hearing. The IJ asked Wambura if
    he had evidence corroborating his testimony. He claimed he was unable to provide it since
    he was unable to access his email account.
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    Orally and in a written order, the IJ denied all claims. She went through the evidence
    presented by Wambura and other materials he submitted in support of his claims that he
    would be tortured if he returned to Tanzania. The IJ noted that it was Wambura’s burden
    to prove that he is eligible for deferral of removal under CAT, but ultimately she concluded
    that his position was “totally and completely based on speculation.” J.A. 14. She stated that
    Wambura has made “absolutely no showing that these past affiliations, which are now half
    a decade old, could cause the respondent any problems if he is returned to his home
    country.” J.A. 15. She gave Wambura a “mixed credibility finding” and determined that
    Wambura had not set forth any credible reasons to support his contention that, if he is
    returned, he will be harmed and tortured. The IJ also addressed Wambura’s failure to
    produce corroborating evidence. She noted that while Wambura indicated that his father
    told him he was being followed by the secret police, there was no letter from the father or
    information to corroborate Wambura’s contentions. She noted that no local Chadema
    members testified or offered statements, letters or affidavits in support of Wambura’s
    contentions.
    Wambura appealed the IJ’s decision to the Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”).
    The BIA affirmed and dismissed Wambura’s appeal, finding Wambura removable and
    ineligible for asylum or withholding of removal. The BIA affirmed the IJ’s determination
    on removability based on Wambura’s conviction for an aggravated felony and concluded
    there was sufficient evidence of loss to the victims of over $10,000. It further noted the IJ’s
    finding that Wambura was also removable for having been convicted of two crimes of
    moral turpitude not arising out of a single scheme of criminal conduct but explained that
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    Wambura waived any challenge to that determination by failing to appeal it. The BIA then
    determined that the IJ did not make an explicit credibility finding and thus assumed
    Wambura’s credibility for purposes of his appeal. Even assuming credibility, the BIA
    affirmed the IJ’s denial of Wambura’s application for deferral of removal under CAT
    because Wambura failed to meet his burden that it was more likely than not he would be
    tortured upon return to Tanzania.
    After the BIA dismissed his appeal, Wambura timely petitioned for judicial review
    of the BIA’s decision. We have jurisdiction to review final orders of the BIA pursuant to 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1252
    (a)(1) and (a)(2)(D). See Huaman-Cornelio v. Bd. of Immigration Appeals,
    
    979 F.2d 995
    , 999 (4th Cir. 1992) (final orders in deportation proceedings come from the
    BIA, the highest administrative tribunal, and, thus, the court of appeals reviews the findings
    and order of the BIA); see also Nasrallah v. Barr, 
    140 S. Ct. 1683
    , 1688 (2020) (confirming
    our jurisdiction to consider legal and factual challenges to the denial of relief under CAT). 2
    2
    We have recognized that situations may arise when it is appropriate for this Court
    to review an IJ’s opinion, such as when the BIA adopts the IJ’s decision without an opinion
    of its own or when the BIA adopts the IJ’s opinion and supplements it with additional
    reasoning. In such cases, the BIA has determined that the IJ’s opinion will become—in
    whole or in part—the final order of removal subject to review. Martinez v. Holder, 
    740 F.3d 902
    , 908 (4th Cir. 2014). Here, the BIA issued its own detailed opinion affirming the
    IJ with further reasoning of its own but without expressly adopting the IJ’s opinion. Thus,
    we focus our review on the BIA’s decision.
    6
    II.
    We first address Wambura’s argument that the government bore the burden of
    establishing the amount of the loss to the victims of the “aggravated felony” that the IJ
    determined barred Wambura’s claims for relief from removal under the INA and CAT. 3
    He argues the amount of the restitution order established by the plea agreement failed to
    satisfy this burden. In support of this argument, he relies on Nijhawan v. Holder, where, in
    reviewing a determination by the BIA that the petitioner committed an aggravated felony
    as defined in 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43)(M)(i) and thus was removable, the Supreme Court
    held that the government has the burden to show the amount of loss by clear and convincing
    evidence. Nijhawan v. Holder, 
    557 U.S. 29
    , 42 (2009).
    Wambura’s reliance on Nijhawan is misplaced. He is right that the government has
    the burden of establishing by clear and convincing evidence that an alien is removable in
    the first place, including the amount of loss involved in an aggravating felony that serves
    as the basis for the removal. 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(3)(A). But while that was the issue in
    Nijhawan, it is not the issue here.
    3
    Our standard of review is well-settled. We review legal questions raised in
    petitions for review de novo. De Leon v. Holder, 
    761 F.3d 336
    , 339 (4th Cir. 2014). In
    contrast, we review factual findings under the substantial evidence standard, meaning “we
    are obliged to treat them as conclusive unless the evidence before the BIA was such that
    any reasonable adjudicator would have been compelled to conclude to the
    contrary.” Haoua v. Gonzales, 
    472 F.3d 227
    , 231 (4th Cir. 2007).
    7
    Here, the DHS charged that Wambura was removable because he had been
    convicted of two crimes involving moral turpitude, and an “aggravated felony” which
    includes “an offense that . . . involves fraud or deceit in which the loss to the victim or
    victims exceeds $10,000.” 
    4 A.R. 429
    . Wambura seeks a “[r]eversal of the ‘aggravated
    felony’ holding” but concedes that doing so “would not vitiate the IJ’s additional holding
    that Wambura is removable because he had pleaded guilty to two separate crimes of moral
    turpitude.” Appellant’s Brief at 40 n.7. This concession about removability based on two
    separate crimes of moral turpitude is critical. The government can skin the eligibility cat
    here in two ways. It can meet its burden by showing either the aggravated felony (which is
    contested) 5 or the two crimes involving moral turpitude (which are not contested). Since
    “Wambura does not contest that his conviction for two separate crimes of moral turpitude
    renders him removable,” Reply Br. at 2, the government carried its burden of establishing
    removability independent of any conviction for an aggravated felony.
    Of course, Wambura can still apply for relief or protection from removal. But to
    obtain that relief, he—not the government—has the burden to prove that he satisfies the
    applicable eligibility requirements. 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(A); see Salem v. Holder, 647
    4
    The DHS also charged that Wambura was removable because of his conviction for
    a conspiracy to commit such an offense as set forth in 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1101
    (a)(43)(M)(i) and
    (a)(43)(U).
    5
    As the government notes, Wambura does not, however, contend that the conviction
    lacks an element of fraud or deceit.
    
    8 F.3d 111
    , 114–15 (4th Cir. 2011). 6 One of those eligibility requirements is that Wambura
    has not been convicted of an aggravated felony. An alien who has committed an
    “aggravated    felony”    is   barred   by   statute   from   receiving    asylum    under 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1158
    (b)(2)(A)(ii), (B)(i); cancellation of removal under 8 U.S.C. § 1229b; or
    withholding of removal under 
    8 U.S.C. § 1231
     if the aggregate term of imprisonment is at
    least five years. See 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1158
    (b)(2)(A)(ii), (B)(i); 8 U.S.C. § 1229b(a)(3); 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1231
    (b)(3)(B)(ii), (iv). Further, an alien is not eligible for withholding of
    removal under CAT if he has been convicted of an aggravated felony where the aggregate
    term of imprisonment is at least five years under 
    8 C.F.R. § 1208.16
    (d)(2)–(3). Thus, in
    order to be eligible for the relief he seeks, Wambura had the burden to establish he had not
    committed an aggravated felony.
    Our decision in Salem v. Holder illustrates this burden shifting structure under the
    INA. Salem v. Holder, 
    647 F.3d 111
     (4th Cir. 2011). There, the petitioner conceded
    removability for having been convicted of two or more crimes involving moral turpitude
    but contested the determination that he was ineligible for cancellation of removal due to
    his aggravated felony conviction. 
    Id. at 114
    . As to the burden of proof, we noted that “at
    the relief stage, the clear text of the statute shifts the burden to the removable noncitizen to
    establish that he ‘satisfies the applicable eligibility requirements.’” 
    Id. at 116
     (quoting 8
    6
    Emphasizing this point, “[i]f the evidence indicates that one or more of the grounds
    for mandatory denial of the application for relief may apply, the alien shall have the burden
    of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that such grounds do not apply.” 
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.8
    (d).
    9
    U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(A)(i)). An applicant for cancellation of removal must demonstrate by
    a preponderance of the evidence that he “has not been convicted of any aggravated felony.”
    Id. (quoting 8 U.S.C. § 1229b(a)(3)) (internal quotation marks omitted). And because the
    petitioner there failed to satisfy his statutorily prescribed burden of showing eligibility, we
    affirmed the BIA’s ruling that he was ineligible for cancellation of removal. 7 Id.
    The same is true here. Wambura had the burden to demonstrate by a preponderance
    of the evidence that he has not been convicted of an aggravated felony, and he failed to do
    so. Instead, his argument, made before the BIA for the first time and again before this
    Court, is an improper attempt to shift his burden to the government where removability has
    already been established, and the evidence establishing the amount of loss is indeed
    significant. Wambura pled guilty to certain charges, and the district court judgment ordered
    restitution related to those charges specifically in the amount of $434,687.65 divided
    between three victims. And any ambiguity about the loss amount is resolved against
    Wambura. Id. at 120.
    Wambura has not satisfied his statutory burden to prove eligibility for asylum,
    cancellation of removal or withholding of removal as he has produced no evidence to
    establish that his prior fraud convictions did not cause losses in excess of $10,000 and,
    7
    This outcome is consistent with Matter of L-A-C-, where the BIA noted that “while
    we have sometimes remanded a case if the [Immigration Judge] failed to explain his
    reliance on a lack of corroborating evidence, the alien bears the ultimate burden of
    introducing such evidence without prompting from the [Immigration Judge].” Matter of L-
    A-C-, 
    26 I&N Dec. 516
    , 523 (BIA 2015).
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    thus, fell outside of the scope of the theft aggravated felony definition. His argument that
    it is the government’s burden to prove losses in excess of $10,000 overlooks the critical
    fact that the IJ found two bases for removal: an aggravated felony conviction and two
    convictions for crimes involving moral turpitude. Wambura acknowledged his
    removability on account of his convictions for crimes involving moral turpitude, which
    then required him to establish his eligibility for relief from removal.
    We affirm the BIA’s ruling. Just as the BIA concluded, due to the nature of
    Wambura’s criminal convictions, Wambura was only eligible for deferral of removal under
    CAT. See 
    8 C.F.R. § 1208.17
    .
    III.
    We now turn to Wambura’s arguments about corroborating evidence as they relate
    to his claim for deferral of removal under CAT. In affirming the IJ, the BIA noted that,
    among other things, Wambura failed to corroborate his testimony about his involvement
    with Chadema and about his father’s statement that he had been followed by the secret
    police in Tanzania. Wambura contends 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(B) and agency “good
    practice” required the IJ to provide advanced notice of the need for corroborative
    evidence. 8 Wambura also claims the same statute required the IJ, upon determining that he
    8
    Wambura did not formally request a continuance in order to pursue corroborating
    evidence. When pressed on this point at oral argument, however, he maintains that his
    testimony that the Capital Area Immigrants’ Rights (CAIR) Coalition possessed
    information about his case constitutes an implicit request for that opportunity.
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    failed to provide the necessary corroborating evidence, to make a finding as to whether
    such corroborating evidence was reasonably available. He argues the IJ erred in both
    respects thereby violating his statutory rights. 9 We address these arguments in turn.
    A.
    To address Wambura’s argument that 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(B) required the IJ to
    give him advanced notice of the need for corroborative evidence, we begin, as we must,
    with the text of the statute:
    The applicant must comply with the applicable requirements to submit
    information or documentation in support of the applicant’s application for
    relief or protection as provided by law or by regulation or in the instructions
    for the application form. In evaluating the testimony of the applicant or other
    witness in support of the application, the immigration judge will determine
    whether or not the testimony is credible, is persuasive, and refers to specific
    facts sufficient to demonstrate that the applicant has satisfied the applicant’s
    burden of proof. In determining whether the applicant has met such burden,
    the immigration judge shall weigh the credible testimony along with other
    evidence of record. Where the immigration judge determines that the
    applicant should provide evidence which corroborates otherwise
    credible testimony, such evidence must be provided unless the applicant
    demonstrates that the applicant does not have the evidence and cannot
    reasonably obtain the evidence.
    8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(B) (emphasis added).
    The statute does not say anything specific about advanced notice. At best, the statute
    is silent on this issue.
    In light of this silence, we must defer to the BIA’s interpretation of the statute so
    long as it is reasonable. See Ojo v. Lynch, 
    813 F.3d 533
    , 538 (4th Cir. 2016) (“[W]e
    9
    Although Wambura characterizes this argument as a statutory violation on appeal,
    before the BIA, he also claimed it violated his due process rights. A.R. 30.
    12
    generally evaluate the BIA’s interpretations of the INA’s provisions by following the two-
    step approach announced by the Supreme Court in Chevron.”); see also Barahona v.
    Holder, 
    691 F.3d 349
    , 354 (4th Cir. 2012) (“Under the Chevron standard, ‘we initially
    examine the statute’s plain language; if Congress has spoken clearly on the precise question
    at issue, the statutory language controls. If, however, the statute is silent or ambiguous, we
    defer to the agency’s interpretation if it is reasonable.’”) (quoting Midi v. Holder, 
    566 F.3d 132
    , 136–37 (4th Cir. 2009)). And the BIA has, in fact, interpreted the INA’s provisions
    on corroboration in the context of the issue we now face. Matter of L-A-C-, 
    26 I&N Dec. 516
     (BIA 2015).
    In Matter of L-A-C-, the primary issue, as it is here, was “whether an Immigration
    Judge is required to identify the specific corroborating evidence necessary to meet an
    applicant’s burden to establish a claim for asylum or withholding of removal and to provide
    an automatic continuance for the applicant to obtain the evidence for presentation at a
    future hearing.” Matter of L-A-C-, 26 I&N Dec. at 517. The BIA concluded
    that § 1158(b)(1)(B)(ii) was not plain on this issue, requiring it to look at the context of the
    statute as a whole and the legislative history for guidance. Id. at 518. It noted that Congress
    intended to codify the standards set forth by the BIA in Matter of S-M-J-, 
    21 I&N Dec. 722
    (BIA 1997). It further noted that Matter of S-M-J- did not require the IJ to identify the
    specific corroborating evidence that would be considered persuasive to meet the applicant’s
    burden of proof. 
    Id. at 520
    . Nor did it require the IJ to grant an automatic continuance for
    the applicant to present that corroborating evidence at yet another future merits hearing.
    Instead, the BIA held the applicant should be given an opportunity to explain why he could
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    not obtain such evidence and that explanation should be included in the record as well as
    whether the explanation was sufficient. 
    Id. at 521
    . The BIA explained it was up to the IJ to
    decide, within his discretion, whether to grant a continuance for the applicant to obtain
    additional corroboration. 
    Id. at 522
    .
    In Matter of L-A-C-, the BIA also explained that applicants already had notice about
    the potential need for corroborating evidence. More specifically, the instructions on the
    Form I-589 application for asylum and withholding of removal specifically provides notice
    of the need to provide evidence of general conditions in the country from which the
    applicant is seeking asylum or other protection and specific facts to support the claim. 
    Id.
    at 521 n. 3. And, the BIA pointed out that the statutory language provides notice of the
    potential need for corroborating evidence.
    Wambura correctly argues that in Matter of L-A-C-, the BIA acknowledged that an
    IJ could choose to remind an applicant for relief of his burden to establish his claim and
    about the general types of evidence useful to corroborate a claim and even suggested that
    doing so is a “matter of good practice.” Matter of L-A-C-, 26 I&N Dec. at 521 n.3. But it
    also made clear that good practice “is far different from requiring the Immigration Judge
    to identify at the merits hearing the specific evidence that he or she would find persuasive
    to meet the applicant’s burden of proof under the facts particular to that case and to then
    grant the applicant an automatic continuance to obtain it for presentation at a later hearing.”
    Id.
    Wambura also points out, again correctly, that two of our sister courts have reached
    a different result. Wambura asks this Court to follow Ren v. Holder, 
    648 F.3d 1079
     (9th
    14
    Cir. 2011) and Saravia v. Attorney General, 
    905 F.3d 729
     (3d Cir. 2018), which hold that
    where an IJ determines corroborative evidence is necessary, the statute requires notice of
    the need for the evidence and an opportunity for the petitioner to provide it before the IJ
    makes a final decision. In Ren, the Ninth Circuit concluded the statute was clear on the
    point, such that the court as well as the agency must give effect to the unambiguously
    expressed intent of Congress under Chevron, U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Resources Defense
    Council, Inc., 
    467 U.S. 837
     (1984). Ren v. Holder, 
    648 F.3d at 1092
    . The Ninth Circuit
    concluded that “[i]t would make no sense to ask whether the applicant can obtain the
    information unless he is to be given a chance to do so.” Ren, 
    648 F.3d at 1091
    . The Third
    Circuit reached a similar conclusion in Saravia, recognizing a circuit split but concluding
    that for meaningful review, an IJ must give an applicant notice and an opportunity to
    corroborate his claim. Saravia, 905 F.3d at 738.
    But the majority of circuit courts that have addressed this issue, like the BIA, have
    concluded that advanced notice is not required. In Gaye v. Lynch, the Sixth Circuit noted
    that the text itself does not suggest that the applicant is entitled to notice from the IJ as to
    what evidence he should present. Gaye v. Lynch, 
    788 F.3d 519
    , 530 (6th Cir. 2015).
    Disagreeing with the Ninth Circuit, the Sixth Circuit concluded “[e]ven if it could be said
    that the statute is silent on the issue, and thus possibly could allow for such a construction
    (and we conclude it does not), it is plainly erroneous to say that the statute unambiguously
    mandates such notice.” 
    Id.
     In Liu v. Holder, the Second Circuit held that even “though we
    require an IJ to specify the points of testimony that require corroboration, we have not held
    that this must be done prior to the IJ’s disposition of the alien’s claim.” Liu v. Holder, 575
    
    15 F.3d 193
    , 198 (2d Cir. 2009). The court reasoned that “an IJ may not determine that
    corroboration is necessary until all the evidence is in, and the IJ has had an opportunity to
    weigh the evidence and prepare an opinion . . . .” Id.; see also Wei Sun v. Sessions, 
    883 F.3d 23
    , 31 (2d Cir. 2018) (rejecting the Ninth Circuit’s reading of 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(ii) as reading into the statute the requirements of “notice” and an
    “opportunity” to produce the absent corroborating evidence). The Seventh Circuit in
    Rapheal v. Mukasey rejected the notion that a petitioner must receive additional notice from
    the IJ and then an additional opportunity to provide corroborative evidence, as such an
    approach would be “imprudent where the law clearly notifies aliens of the importance of
    corroborative evidence.” Rapheal v. Mukasey, 
    533 F.3d 521
    , 530 (7th Cir. 2008). The
    Eighth Circuit decided similarly in Uzodinma v. Barr, recognizing that at a merits hearing
    an IJ need not identify the specific corroborating evidence that would be persuasive, nor
    must an IJ grant an automatic continuance for the applicant to later provide corroborating
    evidence. Uzodinma v. Barr, 
    951 F.3d 960
    , 966–67 (8th Cir. 2020). Finally, in Avelar-
    Oliva v. Barr, the Fifth Circuit also rejected the notion that an IJ must provide “additional
    advance notice of the specific corroborating evidence necessary to meet the applicant’s
    burden of proof and an automatic continuance for the applicant to obtain such evidence.”
    Avelar-Oliva v. Barr, 
    954 F.3d 757
    , 771 (5th Cir. 2020).
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    In our view, the BIA reasonably interpreted the INA in Matter of L-A-C- as it
    addressed the burden of proof for both asylum and withholding of removal applications. 10
    Accordingly, we join the majority view that the INA does not require an IJ to give an alien
    seeking relief from removal advance notice of specific corroborating evidence necessary
    to establish his claim or grant an automatic continuance to allow him to obtain such
    evidence. 11 Section 1229a(c)(4)(B) does not reveal Congressional intent, much less clear
    intent, to require advance notice of a perceived lack of necessary corroborative evidence.
    Accordingly, we give the BIA’s decision, which relied on Matter of L-A-C-, the deference
    as required by Chevron.
    B.
    Finally, we turn to Wambura’s argument that the BIA erred in affirming the IJ’s
    decision which did not make findings on whether corroborative evidence was reasonably
    available. In support of this argument, Wambura points to 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(B) which
    10
    We note that the role of corroboration as it relates to an applicant’s burden of
    proof is the same for purposes of asylum, withholding of removal, and relief under CAT.
    See 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(ii) (“Where the trier of fact determines that the applicant
    should provide evidence that corroborates otherwise credible testimony, such evidence
    must be provided unless the applicant does not have the evidence and cannot reasonably
    obtain the evidence.”); 
    8 U.S.C. § 1231
     (providing that for purposes of withholding of
    removal and relief under CAT, 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B) provides the applicable burden of
    proof).
    11
    We also note the IJ granted several continuances and worked with Wambura on
    getting counsel, informed him of the seriousness of crimes and talked about potential relief.
    There is nothing “arbitrary and capricious” about how the BIA addressed the due process
    arguments Wambura raised below or its ultimate conclusion that the IJ provided the
    respondent with a meaningful opportunity to be heard and present testimony, documents
    and arguments in support of his application. J.A. 6.
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    states, “[w]here the immigration judge determines that the applicant should provide
    evidence which corroborates otherwise credible testimony, such evidence must be
    provided unless the applicant demonstrates that the applicant does not have the evidence
    and cannot reasonably obtain the evidence.” Wambura contends that the statutory language
    requires the IJ to make findings on whether corroborative evidence was reasonably
    available to him. And since the IJ did not address this issue in her decision, Wambura
    contends the BIA’s decision affirming the IJ violated his statutory rights.
    To assess this argument, we begin by reviewing how the IJ addressed corroborating
    evidence at the hearing. Counsel for DHS asked Wambura why there were no statements
    presented by the Chadema party members and questioned further: “There’s nothing to
    corroborate your claims. Is there a reason why?” J.A. 94. The IJ followed up on this line
    of questioning by pointing out that there was no one from the Chadema to testify in support
    of him or provide any correspondence in support of his claims. J.A. 95. Wambura
    responded that he was unable to get in touch with anyone from the party, nor could he gain
    access to his email account to retrieve additional documentation. J.A. 93, 95. Thus, it seems
    clear that Wambura was notified about the evidence that needed corroboration and was
    given an opportunity to explain why he did not provide corroborating evidence.
    The IJ and the BIA then addressed the lack of corroborating evidence in their
    decisions denying the relief sought by Wambura. In her opinion, the IJ explained that while
    Wambura indicated that he spoke to his father who told him he was being followed by the
    secret police, there was no letter from his father or information to corroborate Wambura’s
    contentions. J.A. 14. The IJ also noted that there was no one offering testimony in support
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    of Wambura and no statements, letters or affidavits in support of local Chadema members
    in support of his contentions. J.A. 12. Likewise, the BIA cited this same lack of
    corroborating evidence in affirming the IJ.
    Despite those findings, the IJ did not discuss whether the corroborating evidence
    she mentioned in her decision was reasonably available. And the BIA did not address this
    issue in affirming the IJ’s denial of Wambura’s application for CAT deferral of removal,
    in part due to the lack of corroborating evidence. Even the government seems to agree that
    such a finding was not made. 12
    Our question then is whether the statute requires such a finding. To answer that
    question, we, once again, look to the text. “Where the immigration judge determines that
    the applicant should provide evidence which corroborates otherwise credible testimony,
    such evidence must be provided unless the applicant demonstrates that the applicant does
    not   have   the   evidence       and   cannot     reasonably   obtain   the   evidence.”   8
    U.S.C. § 1229a(c)(4)(B).
    This language requires a threshold determination before addressing the need for
    corroborating evidence or its availability. The Agency must first address whether there is
    “otherwise credible testimony.” Id. Absent that, the statute does not require either
    12
    While Wambura argues this violated his statutory rights, the government, for its
    part, contends that any such violation was harmless because the omission of the finding did
    not result in a fundamentally unfair proceeding or affect the outcome of his removal
    proceeding. While we recognize that this Court has applied the harmless error analysis to
    immigration cases, see Ngarurih v. Ashcroft, 
    371 F.3d 182
    , 190 n.8 (4th Cir. 2004), we
    cannot conclude on this record that the error “clearly had no bearing on the procedure used
    or the substance of the decision reached.” 
    Id.
     (quoting Massachusetts Trs. of E. Gas & Fuel
    Associates v. United States, 
    377 U.S. 235
    , 248 (1964)).
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    corroboration or a finding about its reasonable availability. As noted above, the IJ gave
    Wambura a mixed credibility finding. Then, on appeal, the BIA assumed credibility stating
    that “[t]he Immigration Judge did not make an explicit credibility finding. . . .” J.A. 5.
    Those findings do not sufficiently address the statute’s threshold requirement.
    Accordingly, we remand the case to the Agency to determine whether there was “otherwise
    credible testimony” in need of corroboration.
    If there is a finding that Wambura did not offer “otherwise credible testimony,”
    nothing more is required. But if Wambura offered “otherwise credible testimony” and does
    not provide corroborating evidence that the Agency believes should be provided, then the
    statute requires the Agency to determine whether the corroborating evidence was
    reasonably available.
    We believe this conclusion is compelled by the language of the statute. It is also
    consistent with other INA provisions regarding orders of removal. “No court shall reverse
    a determination made by a trier of fact with respect to the availability of corroborating
    evidence, as described in section 1158(b)(1)(B), 1229a(c)(4)(B), or 1231(b)(3)(C) of this
    title, unless the court finds, pursuant to subsection (b)(4)(B), that a reasonable trier of fact
    is compelled to conclude that such corroborating evidence is unavailable.” 
    8 U.S.C. § 1252
    (b)(4). In order to make the decisions required by this statute, immigration
    judges must make the findings outlined above. See Sec. & Exch. Comm’n v. Chenery Corp.,
    
    318 U.S. 80
    , 94 (1943) (“For the courts cannot exercise their duty of review unless they
    are advised of the considerations underlying the action under review.”).
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    IV.
    For the reasons set forth above, we must grant the petition for review as it relates to
    whether the IJ erred by failing to make a finding on whether corroborative evidence was
    reasonably available to the petitioner. We remand that claim for further proceedings
    consistent herewith. We deny the petition for review as to all other issues.
    PETITION FOR REVIEW GRANTED IN PART, DENIED IN PART AND REMANDED
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    PAMELA HARRIS, Circuit Judge, concurring in the judgment:
    I agree with the majority that in the posture of this case, it was the petitioner,
    Mokorya Cosmas Wambura, who bore the burden of showing that he had not been
    convicted of an aggravated felony, and that he failed to carry his burden. See Maj. Op. Part
    II. I also agree that once Wambura explained to the IJ why he had not provided the
    requested corroborating evidence, the IJ was required to – but did not – determine whether
    Wambura had given “otherwise credible testimony,” and, if so, whether he could
    “reasonably obtain” the corroborating evidence she deemed necessary. See Maj. Op. Part
    III.B.
    In my view, however, that is the end of this case, and unlike the majority, I would
    stop there. Had Wambura, when pressed by the IJ for corroborating evidence, requested
    time to provide it, then we would have a case implicating the split in authority the majority
    describes: Some courts have deferred to the BIA’s ruling in Matter of L-A-C-, 
    26 I. & N. Dec. 516
    , 520–22 (B.I.A. 2015), that an applicant need not be given advance notice of
    required corroborating evidence and a continuance to obtain it, see, e.g., Avelar-Oliva v.
    Barr, 
    954 F.3d 757
    , 770–71 (5th Cir. 2020), while others, primarily the Ninth Circuit, insist
    that an IJ provide notice of any required corroborating evidence and a continuance to seek
    out such evidence before rendering a final decision, see, e.g., Ren v. Holder, 
    648 F.3d 1079
    ,
    1092–93 (9th Cir. 2011). See Maj. Op. Part III.A.
    But none of that matters in this case, because here, Wambura, notified by the IJ of
    the corroboration she deemed necessary, see Maj. Op. at 18, did not seek time, formally or
    otherwise, to provide that evidence. Nor, on my read of the record, did he do anything else
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    to suggest that such evidence might be forthcoming. Instead, Wambura explained why he
    could not provide the IJ with the evidence she sought. See id.; J.A. 93–94, 96 (describing
    Wambura’s inability to access his email account or the internet while in detention). Under
    those circumstances, whether a continuance to provide corroborating evidence is
    mandatory, see Ren, 
    648 F.3d at 1093
    , or discretionary, see Matter of L-A-C-, 26 I. & N.
    Dec. at 521–22, is beside the point. All that remains is for the IJ to evaluate Wambura’s
    explanation for why he cannot produce the requested corroboration, making the findings
    described by the majority in Part III.B of its opinion. See Ren, 
    648 F.3d at
    1092 n.12
    (explaining that when an applicant states that he “does not have the evidence and cannot
    reasonably obtain it,” a continuance and second hearing are unnecessary and instead the IJ
    must assess the explanation and the reasonable availability of the evidence in question).
    Because I believe the holding in Part III.A of the majority opinion is unnecessary to
    the disposition of the case before us, I would adhere to our usual practice and refrain from
    deepening a circuit split on the question.        See In re Lumber Liquidators Chinese-
    Manufactured Flooring Prods. Mktg., Sales Pracs. & Prods. Liab. Litig., 
    952 F.3d 471
    ,
    491 n.14 (4th Cir. 2020). Accordingly, I concur in the judgment and in Parts I, II, and III.B
    of the majority’s fine opinion.
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