Broussard v. Orleans Parish ( 2003 )


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  •               IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    __________________________
    No. 01-31408
    __________________________
    KAYNE BROUSSARD, ETC; ET AL.,
    Plaintiffs,
    versus
    THE PARISH OF ORLEANS, ETC; ET AL.,
    Defendants.
    LEONARD J. DAZET, JR., and all those
    similarly situated; JAMES ANTHONY McDANIEL,
    and all those similarly situated,
    Plaintiffs-Appellants
    versus
    M.J. FOSTER, ETC; ET AL,
    Defendants
    KENNETH GOSS, Sheriff of Acadia Parish; ET AL,
    Defendants-Appellees
    DEMICO PERKINS, and all those similarly situated,
    Plaintiff-Appellant
    versus
    M.J. FOSTER, ETC; ET AL,
    Defendants
    CHARLES C. FOTI, JR., Individually and in his
    official capacity as the Criminal Sheriff of
    Orleans Parish, State of Louisiana,
    Defendant-Appellee
    DEMICO PERKINS, and all those similarly situated,
    Plaintiff-Appellant
    versus
    M.J. FOSTER, ETC; ET AL,
    Defendants
    EDWIN A. LOMBARD, In his official capacity as
    Clerk of Criminal District for the Parish of
    Orleans, State of Louisiana, THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS,
    Defendants-Appellees
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    Cons/W 01-31410
    KAYNE BROUSSARD, ETC; ET AL.,
    Plaintiffs,
    versus
    THE PARISH OF ORLEANS, ETC; ET AL.,
    Defendants.
    DEMICO PERKINS, and all those similarly situated,
    Plaintiff-Appellant
    versus
    M.J. FOSTER, ETC; ET AL,
    Defendants
    EDWIN A. LOMBARD, In his official capacity as
    Clerk of Criminal District for the Parish of
    Orleans, State of Louisiana, CITY OF NEW ORLEANS,
    Defendants-Appellees
    ___________________________________________________
    Appeals from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Louisiana
    ___________________________________________________
    January 10, 2003
    Before WIENER and STEWART, Circuit Judges, and RESTANI,1 Judge.
    WIENER, Circuit Judge:
    In this case, the Plaintiffs-Appellants (“arrestees”), are
    members of a state-wide group of persons arrested within one year
    prior to commencement of this suit.    They now appeal the district
    1
    Judge of the U.S. Court of International Trade, sitting by
    designation.
    2
    court’s rejection of their challenges to three Louisiana statutes,
    each of which requires payment of a fee as a prerequisite to
    release on bail.     As we find that such fees are administrative
    charges reasonably related to the functioning of the bail-bond
    system, we affirm.
    I. FACTS AND PROCEEDINGS
    Plaintiffs-Appellants comprise three classes of arrestees who
    challenge   three   Louisiana   statutes   (“bail-fee   statutes”)   that
    impose specified charges or fees when an arrested individual posts
    bail.2   Each class is limited to individuals who were arrested
    within one year of filing suit. The Defendants-Appellees are the
    sheriffs of almost every Parish in Louisiana (collectively, the
    “sheriffs”), including the Sheriff of Orleans Parish (“Orleans
    Sheriff”), and the Clerk of the Criminal District Court for Orleans
    Parish (“Orleans Clerk”).3
    The following provisions are the challenged portions of the
    bail-fee statutes:
    1. Section 1432(9) [hereinafter the “multi-sheriff statute”]:
    The compensation, fees and costs allowed sheriffs, the parish
    of Orleans excepted, for all services in criminal matters,
    2
    The first class consists of arrestees in every Louisiana
    Parish except Orleans, Avoyelles, Livingston, St. James, and
    Lafayette. The second class consists of arrestees of Orleans
    Parish, and the third class consists of arrestees who paid the
    bail fee to the Clerk of the Criminal District Court of Orleans
    Parish.
    3
    Defendants-Appellees do not include the sheriffs of
    Avoyelles, Livingston, St. James, or Lafayette Parishes.
    3
    shall be the following:
    9) For taking appearance bond when required to do so,
    fifteen dollars, unless suspended by a judge of the district
    court of the parish.    A judge of a district court of the
    parish shall waive this fee if a defendant has been tried and
    found not guilty or if the charges against the defendant are
    dismissed.4
    2. Sections 1520(3) and (6) [hereinafter “Orleans Sheriff
    statute”]:
    The criminal sheriff of Orleans Parish shall collect from the
    parties, from witnesses, from sureties, and from sureties on
    bonds forfeited, the following fees and charges:
    (3) For serving notice of arraignment or of trial on
    accused and surety, for each, and return, seven dollars;
    (6) For taking appearance bond or recognizance bond when
    required to do so, fifteen dollars, unless suspended by the
    judges of the Criminal District Court of the Parish of
    Orleans.5
    3. Section 1381(3) [hereinafter “Orleans Clerk statute”]:
    The following charges may be made for the services of the
    clerk of the criminal district court:
    (3) For filing and processing of appearance or witness
    bond, five dollars.6
    The bail-fee statutes are among a more extensive group of
    statutes that provides for fees in a variety of situations.              For
    instance, the Orleans Parish sheriff may charge twelve dollars
    “[f]or   serving   attachments   to       bring   witnesses   into   court”7;
    sheriffs of other parishes may charge two dollars “[f]or each
    4
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 33:1432(9) (2002).
    5
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 33:1520(3), (6) (2002).
    6
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13:1381(3) (1999).
    7
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 33:1520(5) (2002).
    4
    warrant executed outside of the parish”8; and the Orleans Clerk may
    charge two dollars “[f]or filing and recording [an] affidavit.”9
    Taken     together,    the   entire   group     reveals   that     Louisiana   has
    delegated      to     various   parish       officials    a     portion   of   the
    responsibility for covering the expenses that they incur while
    carrying out administrative tasks.
    The     bail-fee     statutes,    however,      do   not    constitute    the
    exclusive legislative attempt to collect money through or for the
    benefit of the bail-bond system.             Section 1065.1 of Title 22 of the
    Louisiana Revised States imposes a two percent “fee on premium for
    all commercial surety underwriters who write criminal bail bonds in
    the state of Louisiana.”10       This fee is distributed to the judicial
    court fund (25%), the sheriff’s general fund (25%), the district
    attorney’s operating fund (25%), and the Indigent Defenders Program
    (25%).11     This provision, in fact, was enacted contemporaneously
    with the repeal of similar but piecemeal legislation,12 and as a
    result constitutes “the exclusive fee or tax on any criminal bail
    8
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 33:1432(7) (2002).
    9
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13:1381(1) (1999).
    10
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 22:1065.1(A) (2003).
    11
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 22:1065.1(B) (2003).
    12
    See 
    1993 La. Acts 834
    , at 2212; La. Rev. Stat. Ann. §§
    13:994(B), 996(B), and 1384 (1999).
    5
    bond premium.13 Finally, the Louisiana Legislature has provided for
    the distribution of bond forfeiture amounts from district courts,
    parish courts, and city courts to some parish sheriffs around the
    state.14 In total, sheriffs receive funds to support the bail- bond
    system from (1) a tax on bondsmen (which the bondsmen likely pass
    on to arrestees), (2) fees imposed by the bail-fee statutes at
    issue here, and, for some sheriffs, (3) bond forfeitures.
    In the district court, arrestees invoked 
    42 U.S.C. § 1983
     to
    challenge the constitutionality of the bail-fee statutes under the
    Fourth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments, both facially and as
    applied.      As matters outside the pleadings were presented to the
    district court, it converted the sheriffs’ motion for judgment on
    the pleadings into a motion for summary judgment, then rejected all
    of arrestees’ claims.
    On appeal, the crux of arrestees’ argument is the same as it
    was before the district court:     An arrested person should not have
    to pay a statutory fee to the parish sheriff or clerk over and
    above the amount of bail they are required to post.       First, and
    most significantly, they rely on Augustus v. Roemer to argue that
    an arrestee has a fundamental right “not to be deprived of or
    unreasonably inhibited from exercising [bail] once it has been
    13
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 22:1065.1(A) (2003). There is one
    exception to the exclusivity of this fee, but it is not relevant
    here. Id.
    14
    1993 Acts, No. 834, at 2206, § 571.11(L).
    6
    favorably     determined.”15   As   a   result,   insist   arrestees,   the
    government must have a compelling interest to restrict that right.
    Imposing a monetary charge for the purpose of raising revenue, they
    assert, is not an adequate compelling interest.        This fundamental-
    rights contention also provides a foundation for arrestees’ equal
    protection and procedural due process claims.
    Second, arrestees insist that charging bail-bond fees is akin
    to imposing costs of prosecution on an acquitted defendant. Third,
    they contend that the statutes are void on vagueness grounds
    because different sheriffs charge fees in differing amounts and
    maintain     inadequate,   ambiguous    refund    procedures.     Fourth,
    arrestees assert that the bail-fee statutes tempt sheriffs to stack
    charges so as to fill their departments’ coffers. This temptation,
    claim the arrestees, violates their procedural due process rights
    to “an impartial determination of the number of bookings.”         Fifth,
    they contend that these fees constitute excessive fines under the
    Eighth Amendment.       Finally, they argue that charging a fee to
    exercise bail constitutes an unreasonable seizure of their person
    and property under the Fourth Amendment.16
    15
    
    771 F. Supp. 1458
    , 1468 (E.D. La. 1991).
    16
    The arrestees’ remaining three distinct claims are
    meritless. They first argue that sheriffs are exceeding their
    authority if the statutes are construed to impose fees after
    conviction. The statutes, however, fairly clearly provide for
    fee collection before conviction, as that is when a bond is
    usually taken. Second, arrestees dispute the district court
    statement that they failed to show that any charges on arrestees
    had been dropped. As we explain, however, arrestees’ claims fail
    7
    In contrast, the sheriffs contend that the outcome of this
    case, at least with regard to the multi-sheriff statute, §1432(9),
    is governed by our holding in Enlow v. Tishomingo County.17                At
    issue in that case was a bail-fee statute that was quite similar to
    the one challenged here.       The district court in Enlow rejected a
    procedural        due    process     challenge      to   that      statute’s
    constitutionality, and we summarily affirmed the district court,
    concluding on the basis of our review of the briefs and record that
    the opinion was “well reasoned and [the case] correctly decided.”18
    The   sheriffs     contend   that    the   only   difference    between   the
    Mississippi statute and Louisiana’s bail-fee statute is that the
    Mississippi bail fee was calculated as a percentage of the bond,
    and the statewide Louisiana bail-fee statute assesses a fixed
    charge of fifteen dollars.          This difference, they insist, is not
    material.
    The sheriffs also deny that there is any fundamental right to
    free bail access, and rely on Schilb v. Kuebel to argue that the
    bail-fee statutes merely authorize valid administrative fees to
    because they are unable to show that the fees charged are
    arbitrary or to show that the fees caused a delay in release.
    Thus, whether any charges had been dropped is immaterial. Third,
    arrestees argue that dismissing the City of New Orleans was
    improper. Whether or not the City of New Orleans should be a
    defendant, however, depends on the merits of arrestees’ claims.
    As a result, this issue does not warrant discussion unless the
    bail-fee statutes are held to be unconstitutional.
    17
    
    45 F.3d 885
     (5th Cir. 1995).
    18
    
    Id. at 889
    .
    8
    support the bail-bond system.19                  As the statutes charge only
    administrative fees to defray the costs of the bail-bond system,
    continue the sheriffs, such fees do not impermissibly impose court
    costs; and for the same reason, such fees cannot violate the
    excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment.                       Finally, the
    sheriffs deny that (1) the statutes create any temptation to stack
    charges, (2) such laws are unconstitutionally vague, or (3) they
    effect a Fourth Amendment violation.
    II. ANALYSIS
    Louisiana’s bail-fee statutes do not fit snugly into any
    established area of constitutional jurisprudence.                   This is quite
    plausibly the reason why arrestees fired such a broadside of
    constitutional claims at the sheriffs.               As this is the third time
    these types of statutes have been challenged in this Circuit, and
    as the results of the previous efforts are in tension with each
    other, we shall address each of arrestees claims.                  Even though, in
    addition to the three laws at issue here, Louisiana’s statutory
    framework     provides     multiple       methods   of   funding    its   bail-bond
    system,     relevant      Supreme       Court   precedent   characterizing     such
    charges as reasonable administrative fees requires us to affirm the
    district court on all matters, as we shall demonstrate.
    A.   STANDARD OF REVIEW
    We     review   de    novo     a    district   court’s   grant    of   summary
    19
    
    404 U.S. 357
     (1971).
    9
    judgment.20     Summary judgment is only appropriate if the pleadings
    and the additional evidence presented show that there is no genuine
    issue as to a material fact, such that the moving party is entitled
    to a judgment as a matter of law.21      A dispute about a material fact
    is ‘genuine’ if there is enough evidence for a reasonable jury to
    return a verdict in favor of the non-moving party.22           Like the
    district court, when deciding upon a motion for summary judgment,
    we review all factual questions in the light most favorable to the
    nonmovant.23     We also review de novo all questions of law.24
    B.   EIGHTH AMENDMENT EXCESSIVE BAIL
    Arrestees only assert in passing that the bail-fee statutes
    amount to “excessive bail”.         It is nevertheless worthwhile to
    explain the inapplicability of the Eighth Amendment’s Excessive
    Bail Clause to better frame these statutes under a more general
    due-process analysis.
    The Supreme Court has not frequently considered the contours
    of the Eighth Amendment’s proscription of excessive bail. In fact,
    its application to the States has occurred only indirectly.25        The
    20
    Stults v. Conoco, Inc. 
    76 F.3d 651
    , 654 (5th Cir. 1996).
    21
    Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(c).
    22
    Stults, 
    76 F.3d at 654
    .
    23
    
    Id.
    24
    
    Id. at 655
    .
    25
    Schilb v. Kuebel, 
    404 U.S. 357
    , 365 (1971) (finding that
    “the Eighth Amendment’s proscription of excessive bail has been
    10
    Court     has   explained,         nonetheless,   that    a   prohibition       against
    excessive       bail     exists      even    though      there    is    no     absolute
    constitutional right to bail.                In Stack v. Boyle, the Court held
    that “[b]ail set at a figure higher than an amount reasonably
    calculated       [to    ensure      the   defendant’s    presence      at    trial]   is
    ‘excessive’          under   the    Eighth    Amendment.”26      In    applying    this
    standard,       we    have   found    that   requiring     $750,000     bail    from a
    defendant deemed to be a flight risk is not excessive even though
    the defendant is unable to pay the bail.27
    More recently, in United States v. Salerno, the Supreme Court
    acknowledged that, in addition to the authority to detain for
    flight risk, the government may pursue “other admittedly compelling
    interests through regulation of pretrial release.”28                          The only
    potential substantive limitation on the ability of the government
    to restrict bail, the Court concluded, is that “the Government’s
    proposed conditions of release or detention not be ‘excessive’ in
    light of the perceived evil.”29
    assumed to have application to the States through the Fourteenth
    Amendment”) (citations omitted); Baker v. McCollan, 
    443 U.S. 137
    ,
    145 n.3 (1979).
    26
    
    342 U.S. 1
    , 5 (1951).
    27
    United States v. McConnell, 
    842 F.2d 105
    , 107-08 (5th Cir.
    1988).
    28
    
    481 U.S. 739
    , 753-54 (1987).
    29
    
    Id. at 754
    . The Court explained further that the
    excessiveness of the government’s action is determined as well by
    “the interest the Government seeks to protect by means of [its
    11
    The above-cited cases address whether the government can deny
    bail altogether, or set it at a very high amount, for the reasons
    it proffers.      In contrast, this case concerns neither the State’s
    attempt to deny bail nor an extremely high bail amount.                 Rather, it
    concerns relatively modest fees imposed, over and above the amount
    of bail, on all arrestees who exercise bail.                Clearly, the sheriffs
    are not advancing the compelling interests recognized by the Court
    in the cases mentioned above.           Rather, they reiterate that the fee
    statutes are administrative charges imposed to cover costs of the
    bail-bond system. The sheriffs argue additionally that the fees at
    issue here are part of a more comprehensive statutory scheme that
    imposes fees for other actions taken by parish sheriffs in the
    criminal adjudication process.30
    It is also clear that the restriction alleged in this case
    does not implicate the kind of excessiveness of past decisions.
    Rather, the charges are nominal, nondiscretionary, statutory fees
    imposed on all arrestees.          Indeed, the deprivation arrestees claim
    here is more theoretical than actual.                They have offered no hard
    evidence that any arrestee who was otherwise able to make bail was
    ever kept in jail because he or she did not, or could not, pay the
    de minimis administrative fee.           Presumably, if an arrestee is able
    to   secure     bail,   he   or   she   would   be   able    to   pay   the   modest
    restriction].”      
    Id.
    30
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. 33:1432.
    12
    administrative fee required to exercise that right.     And, even if
    an arrestee were to remain in jail, it is still not clear that an
    additional fifteen dollars would constitute excessive bail under
    the Eighth Amendment.    As a result, the interests at stake for both
    the government and the individual are not easily taken account of
    by the Salerno test.31
    In sum, extant excessive-bail jurisprudence does not transfer
    well to this issue.   Salerno and previous cases have indicated that
    the government must put forth a compelling interest to restrict or
    deny bail.   Here, there is neither a compelling purpose nor a
    restriction on bail analogous to past instances.     Rather there is
    a largely theoretical, and effectively minimal, constraint on an
    individual’s substantial liberty interest in release.32   Nothing in
    31
    An analysis of these facts in excessive bail terms would
    result in an awkward application of the Salerno standard. The
    “perceived evil” would be the lack of funding for the bail-bond
    system rather than the flight risk, or danger to the community,
    of an arrestee. Likewise, the restrictions on release are small
    fees required to exercise bail instead of a large amount of
    money, which effectively would prohibit release on bail. Even
    though the “evil” does not amount to the compelling interest the
    government has in preventing flight, the restraint imposed also
    pales in comparison to high bail amounts.
    32
    The “excessive bail” jurisprudence does illustrate the
    substantial interest an individual has in pretrial release from
    jail. The Salerno court reiterated that “[i]n our society
    liberty is the norm, and detention prior to trial or without
    trial is the carefully limited exception.” Salerno, 
    481 U.S. at 755
    . We have also recognized that interest, stating that “[d]ue
    to weighty liberty interests, the typical pretrial detainee is
    rarely detained prior to trial.” Hamilton v. Lyons, 
    74 F.3d 99
    ,
    105 (5th Cir. 1996). Thus, the need for a compelling purpose to
    restrict such release implies that an individual maintains a
    strong liberty interest.
    13
    these cases has suggested that a theoretically minor restriction
    imposed for less than a compelling purpose, constitutes “excessive”
    bail.
    C.   EIGHTH AMENDMENT EXCESSIVE FINES
    There are two reasons why arrestees’ excessive-fines challenge
    fails here.      First, the Supreme Court has never directly applied
    the Excessive Fines Clause of the Eighth Amendment to the several
    states.      Although scholars have suggested,33 and Justice O’Connor
    has argued,34 that this clause applies to the states, to date no
    such attribution has occurred.      Second, even assuming that this
    clause does apply to the states, the Court has concluded, and the
    district court here recognized, that “the State does not acquire
    the power to punish with which the Eighth Amendment is concerned
    until after it has secured a formal adjudication of guilt in
    accordance with due process of law.”35     Therefore, allegations of
    punishment before adjudication of guilt must be addressed under the
    33
    2 Ronald D. Rotunda & John E. Nowak, Treatise on
    Constitutional Law: Substance and Procedure, §15.6, at 622 (1999)
    (arguing for the incorporation of this clause “because it is
    intertwined with the other two clauses of the Eighth Amendment
    and the Supreme Court has already regulated the imposition of
    fines on indigents through the equal protection clause of the
    Fourteenth Amendment”).
    34
    See Browning-Ferris Industries of Vermont, Inc. v. Kelco
    Disposal, Inc., 
    492 U.S. 257
    , 284 (1989) (O’Connor, J. concurring
    in part, dissenting in part) (urging that the ‘excessive fines’
    clause should apply to the states).
    35
    Ingraham v. Wright, 
    430 U.S. 651
    , 671 n.40 (1977).
    14
    Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.36
    The Excessive Fines Clause of the Eighth Amendment, like the
    Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause, is applicable only if the
    statutory fees at issue constitute punishment.37           But because the
    bail-fee statutes impose a charge prior to the adjudication of
    guilt, the Excessive Fines Clause, even if it did apply to the
    states, would not be the appropriate provision under which to test
    these statutes.       As a result, we must assess the capacity of the
    bail-fee statutes to constitute punishment through the lens of the
    Due Process Clause.
    D.   DUE PROCESS —— BAIL FEES AS PUNISHMENT
    As neither the Excessive Bail Clause nor the Excessive Fines
    Clause of the Eighth Amendment is applicable to the bail-fee
    statutes challenged here, we must address the arrestees’ more
    amorphous       contention   that   the   bail-fee   statutes   violate   the
    fundamental right of bail-eligible arrestees to exercise bail
    without any additional financial impediment.             Before addressing
    this due process contention directly, however, we must explain and
    36
    
    Id.
    37
    The Court has found that the Excessive Fines Clause
    “limits the government’s power to extract payments, whether in
    cash or in kind, as punishment for some offense.” Austin v.
    United States, 
    509 U.S. 602
    , 609-10 (1993)(internal quotation
    marks omitted) (emphasis in original). Thus, whether the clause
    applies depends on whether it is possible to describe the fees
    imposed as punishment. See United States v. Bajakajian, 
    524 U.S. 321
    , 328 (1998) (finding that forfeitures are fines “if they
    constitute punishment for an offense”).
    15
    distinguish three other cases relevant to this analysis on which
    the parties rely.
    In Schilb v. Kuebel, the Court addressed a provision with
    effects remarkably similar to Louisiana’s bail-fee statutes.38
    Illinois had instituted bail reform to enable arrestees to avoid
    the usurious fees of professional bail bondsmen.                          As part of this
    reform program, arrestees had the option of paying the court a
    deposit equal to 10% of their bail amount and thus obtaining
    release.       Later,     when     they     appeared     at   their       hearings,   such
    arrestees were refunded all but 10% (1% of the total bail amount)
    of the deposit, which the court retained as an administrative fee.39
    The     Court   in     Schilb     addressed       only    an    equal    protection
    challenge and an argument that the fees constituted imposition of
    court costs prior to conviction.                  In rejecting both claims, the
    Court     started    from    the    premise       that   this       charge    “smacks    of
    administrative       detail      and   of    procedure        and    is    hardly   to   be
    classified as a ‘fundamental’ right or as based upon any suspect
    criterion.”40        The Court then analyzed, under the appropriate
    rational-basis standard, the fee retention in relation to the
    ability of arrestees to put up the entire amount of bail and
    thereby avoid fees entirely.                 Charging this fee to only those
    38
    
    404 U.S. 357
     (1971).
    39
    Id. at 359-61.
    40
    Id. at 365.
    16
    arrestees who elected to deposit an amount equal to 10% of their
    bail, reasoned the Court, was rationally related to the State’s
    interest in defraying expenses that are associated with bail-
    jumping.41
    The Court also distinguished this Illinois bail-fee statute
    from the one considered in Giaccio v. Pennsylvania, wherein the
    Court struck down a state law that allowed a jury to impose all
    court costs on a defendant even though it had acquitted him.42          The
    Schilb     court   reiterated   that    the   Illinois   charge   was   “an
    administrative cost imposed upon all those, guilty and innocent
    alike” who avail themselves of its benefit, which was distinct from
    the “imposition of costs of prosecution upon an acquitted or
    discharged criminal defendant,” illegal under Illinois law.43
    Here, arrestees attempt to distinguish Schilb by highlighting
    the fact that the statute there at issue was part of a legislative
    movement to reform the Illinois bail-bond system and was but one
    option from which arrestees could choose.44        Louisiana’s statutory
    41
    Id. at 367-68. When the state takes only 10% instead of
    the entire 100% of the bail amount, it has less security in the
    event of bail-jumping. It also may be more likely that bail-
    jumping would occur under the deposit plan because the arrested
    individuals would forfeit less financially if they failed to
    appear in court.
    42
    
    382 U.S. 399
    , 403 (1966).
    43
    Schilb, 404 U.S. at 370-71.
    44
    Based on Augustus v. Roemer, 
    771 F. Supp. 1458
     (E.D. La.
    1991), arrestees argue that Schilb outlined a three factor test
    for such bail statutes: they must 1) create a voluntary option,
    17
    scheme, by contrast, is not as reform-minded as the Illinois
    program.      The ability to distinguish Schilb from the instant case
    on the extent to which the fees charged go toward a program
    designed to benefit arrestees by reducing reliance on bail bondsmen
    is   inconsequential,     however,    because    the    Louisiana   bail-fee
    statutes involve no classification.           The fee provisions at issue
    here apply to all arrestees, regardless of whether they enlist the
    services of a bail bondsmen or use their own funds to pay bail.
    Thus, the fact that the Louisiana statutes fail to classify dooms
    arrestees’      equal   protection   claims     and    prevents   them   from
    positively distinguishing their challenge from the facts of Schilb,
    at least on equal protection grounds.45
    In addition to the Schilb court’s view that bail fees are at
    most administrative charges, which fail to invoke any fundamental
    right, the sheriffs argue that Enlow v. Tishomingo County, in which
    we upheld a statute similar to those at issue in this case, should
    govern our conclusion here.46        At issue in Enlow was a Mississippi
    statute that imposed on every arrestee exercising his bail option
    2) be intended to reform the bail system, and 3) confer a benefit
    on arrestees.
    45
    As we will explain, the differences between reform-
    oriented bail programs and Louisiana’s scheme are likewise
    immaterial under the relaxed reasonableness standard that applies
    to due process challenges.
    46
    
    45 F.3d 885
    , 889 (5th Cir. 1995).
    18
    a fee equal to the greater of $20 or 2% of the value of the bond.47
    The Enlow district court considered whether that statute violated
    procedural       due       process   standards      by   imposing   a   fee   prior    to
    adjudication of guilt.48             Applying Mathews v. Eldridge,49 the trial
    court stated that payment of a bond fee did not amount to a
    heightened level of private interest.50                  It reasoned that requiring
    a bond fee was legally indistinguishable from the accepted practice
    of   requiring         a    detainee    to   post   bond   as   a   prerequisite      for
    release.51       The district court in Enlow also noted that sufficient
    standards        and       procedures   existed     to   facilitate     refunds   after
    acquittal.52 Finally, in addressing the government’s administrative
    interests, the district court relied on Schilb’s conclusion that
    not all administrative fees are unconstitutional.53
    We affirmed the Enlow trial court’s holding and reasoning on
    47
    Enlow v. Tishomingo County, Civ.A.No. EC 89-61-D-D, 
    1990 WL 366913
    , at *2 (N.D. Miss. Nov. 27, 1990).
    48
    Id. at *5-6.
    49
    
    424 U.S. 319
     (1976).
    50
    Enlow, 
    1990 WL 366913
    , at *5.
    51
    
    Id.
     (citing Gladden v. Roach, 
    864 F.2d 1196
    , 1200 (5th Cir.
    1989) (upholding the ability to impose bail for a non-jailable
    offense because the gravity of the offense does not alter the
    purpose of bail to make sure defendants appear at trial)).
    52
    Enlow, 
    1990 WL 366913
    , at *6.
    53
    
    Id.
    19
    appeal.54         After reviewing the briefs and record, we concluded that
    “the        district       court’s     opinion     regarding      the      arrestees’
    constitutional challenges to the statutes is well reasoned and
    correctly          decided.”55       Despite     the   absence     of     substantive
    discussion, our affirmation of the district court’s holding governs
    procedural due process challenges to similar bail-fee statutes,
    unless they can be factually distinguished.
    The only differences between the Mississippi statutes at issue
    in Enlow and Louisiana’s bail-fee statutes that we consider today
    are Mississippi’s use of a percentage fee rather than a flat fee,
    and its           statute’s   provision   for    the   State    Auditor    of   Public
    Accounts to promulgate regulations outlining a refund procedure,56
    in contrast to the Louisiana statutes, which are more ambiguous in
    their provisions for refunds.                 The first difference at best is
    immaterial to a procedural due process analysis, because the
    quantum of           the   Louisiana   fees    imposed,   and    thus   the     private
    interest affected, is almost always going to be less than the
    quantum of those imposed under the Mississippi scheme.                     The second
    difference has an effect, if any, only when assessing the risk of
    error in existing procedures.
    Given Enlow’s conclusions that the private interests at stake
    54
    Enlow, 
    45 F.3d at 889
    .
    55
    
    Id.
    56
    
    Miss. Code Ann. § 99-1-19
    (5), (6) (1990) (repealed by Act
    of March 12, 1990, Ch. 329, § 12, eff. October 1, 1990).
    20
    are not great, that Schilb specifically rejected a fundamental
    rights implication of such fees, and that arrestees have failed to
    demonstrate any actual deprivation, we too conclude that the
    Louisiana fees do not trigger any heightened level of private
    interest.       Although the liberty interest of an arrestee in release
    from jail may well be significant, any deprivation attributable to
    these       administrative    fees      is    minimal,   if   not   non-existent.
    Arrestees have introduced no evidence to suggest that any arrestee
    has ever been detained because of an inability to pay the bail fee.
    Arrestees have also failed to articulate a clear argument that
    these fees constitute a deprivation of a property interest without
    due process of law.57
    The second factor is the so-called risk of error. In Mathews,
    the Court explained this factor as “the fairness and reliability of
    the existing pretermination procedures, and the probable value, if
    any, of additional procedural safeguards.”58                  The district court
    here    found     a   low   risk   of   erroneous    deprivation     because   the
    assessment of fees simply was based on the number of charges on
    57
    A recent district court case from Southern District of
    Ohio struck down a statute on procedural due process grounds
    that imposed a flat thirty dollar book-in fee to cover the
    administrative costs of confinement of pretrial detainees. Allen
    v. Leis, 213 F. Supp 2d 819, 831-34 (S.D. Ohio 2002). In
    conducting a Mathews analysis, the court held that this
    deprivation of property, like most, required notice and a
    hearing. Id. at 833-34. Here, however, Enlow has already
    concluded that the private interest is insignificant, and
    arrestees failed to pursue this line of argument.
    58
    
    424 U.S. 319
    , 343 (1976).
    21
    which an individual is arrested.59        The procedures for assessing
    fees are indeed unambiguous; it is not clear, however, that this
    completes the inquiry. This factor asks not only whether the state
    will determine the correct amount of deprivation, but also whether
    it will deprive the right individuals under the current procedures.
    In Enlow, the district court concluded that the Mississippi
    statute contained sufficient procedures and standards to facilitate
    refunds to acquitted individuals.          In contrast, the Louisiana
    statutes as they now stand, impose a fee on every individual
    arrested.   Thus,   the   risk   is     fairly   high   that   persons    not
    ultimately found guilty will have paid this fee.               According to
    Enlow, however, an adequate refund procedure would substantially
    minimize the risk of this kind of error. Louisiana’s multi-sheriff
    statute provides for a “waiver” of the bail fee by a judge if an
    arrestee is acquitted or the charges dismissed. The Orleans parish
    sheriff statute states that a judge may “suspend” this fee, but it
    does not explain the grounds on which suspension is appropriate.
    The Orleans clerk statue contains no procedure for obtaining a
    refund on acquittal or dismissal of charges.
    Arrestees   argue    that   the    waiver    language     provides   an
    insufficient procedure for obtaining a refund.                 Although the
    Louisiana multi-sheriff statute appears to provide less detail on
    59
    Broussard v. Parish of Orleans, No. CIV.A..00-2318,
    CIV.A.00-3055, CIV.A.00-2056, CIV.A.00-3057, 
    2001 WL 1335289
    , at
    *8 (E.D. La. Oct. 29, 2001).
    22
    refund procedures than does the Mississippi statute, this does not
    mean that it is wholly inadequate.        The record indicates that in at
    least three parishes, refunds were made on request and that none
    were denied.      Vernon Parish, for instance, which appears to have
    collected more bail fees than any other single parish, provided
    refunds for all thirty-seven requests made.           This kind of evidence
    supports a conclusion that the multi-sheriff statute is capable of
    adequately providing a refund.
    The arrestees also invoke the St. Charles Parish policy of
    making booking fees nonrefundable as evidence that the statutory
    waiver language is inadequate.           The St. Charles Parish policy,
    however, is      expressly   provided    for   in   Article   324(3)   of   the
    Louisiana Code of Criminal Procedure.60         This provision authorizes
    St. Charles Parish to collect a deposit calculated as a percentage
    of the bail amount but to charge a fee no greater than fifteen
    dollars for processing a bond, which is the amount that the sheriff
    actually charged.      As such, the procedure resembles the remedial
    program scrutinized in Schilb. We conclude that the possibility of
    a refund under the multi-sheriff statute sufficiently mitigates any
    error that might occur beforehand in charging the fee.
    The likelihood of refunds under the Orleans Sheriff and
    Orleans Clerk statutes is not as certain.              The Orleans Sheriff
    statute only provides that a judge may suspend the fee requirement.
    60
    La. Code. Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 324(A)(3) (2002).
    23
    This language suggests that there is some process before a fee is
    assessed, or at least some opportunity to request that a judge
    suspend the fee.      The clerk statute provides for no suspension or
    waiver of this fee, but it imposes a fee of only five dollars, the
    least among the bail-fee statutes.
    Finally, weighed against the deprivation and the risk of error
    is the administrative burden resulting from additional procedural
    requirements and the government’s interests in conserving scarce
    resources.61    This case deals with the imposition of nominal fees,
    and the government has an interest in continuing to assess such
    fees to support its bail-bond system.                Greater process could
    ultimately reduce funding of the bail-bond system by increasing
    administrative costs and decreasing government revenue from such
    fees,     because   more   acquitted   arrestees     are   likely   to   obtain
    refunds.62      Insufficient    funding     could   detrimentally    affect   a
    sheriff’s ability to supervise release on bail, which in turn could
    mean that fewer individuals actually secure release or that those
    released find it easier to jump bail.          Thus, the government has an
    interest in the extant procedures to hold down costs and fund a
    61
    Mathews, 
    424 U.S. at 347-48
    .
    62
    It would appear that the only effective procedures that
    would reduce deprivation and error would be the criminal
    adjudication itself or adequate refund procedures after
    acquittal. The former would not likely involve any additional
    procedures, but would delay the assessment of bail fees. The
    latter would allow bail fees to be assessed immediately, but
    might require more process later to dispense refunds.
    24
    sheriff’s office’s bail-bond system.     The de minimis level of the
    private   interest,   moreover,     indicates   that   the   government
    administrative interest need not be great.
    When we balance the Mathews factors, we conclude that none of
    the bail-fee statutes violates procedural due process standards.
    Although some risk of error exists for fees imposed under the
    Orleans Sheriff statute and the Orleans Clerk statute, the private
    interest at stake for all three statutes is minimal, as Enlow
    instructs, and the government interests in funding the bail-bond
    system and maintaining cost-effective procedures outweigh any error
    that may result from inadequate refund procedures.            Schilb’s
    characterization of such charges as administrative fees lying
    beyond the threat of heightened constitutional scrutiny again
    influences our conclusion.        It shows us that the government’s
    administrative interest is reasonable and private deprivation so
    minimal that the risk of acquitted individuals paying the bail fee
    is an error without constitutional significance, akin to danum
    absque injuria.
    Having found arrestees’ equal protection and procedural due
    process claims to be unavailing, we turn to their substantive due
    process challenge. In contrast to the sheriffs’ reliance on Enlow,
    arrestees ground their substantive due process argument on Augustus
    v. Roemer, a 1991 federal district court case that addressed
    another Louisiana statute, which imposed a charge on bail bondsmen
    25
    equal to the greater of $20.00 or 2% of the amount of the bond.63
    In striking down these provisions, the trial court determined that
    access to the bail system, once an arrestee was found eligible,
    constituted a fundamental right that could not be constricted
    absent a compelling governmental purpose.64           The district court was
    not persuaded that raising revenue to run the criminal justice
    system     and   to   handle   the   administration    of   bond   forfeitures
    constituted compelling interests.65         The court distinguished Schilb
    on the same grounds that arrestees rely on here:             (1) The program
    was voluntary; (2) it had a narrowly tailored statutory purpose;
    and (3) it offered a benefit given in exchange for the fee.66
    The district court’s fundamental rights analysis in Roemer
    crumbles, however, under the weight of Schilb and other related
    Supreme Court precedent which indicate that these fees do not
    implicate fundamental rights and thus need only be reasonable.67
    63
    
    771 F. Supp. 1458
    , 1460-62 (E.D. La. 1991). In 1993, the
    Louisiana legislature repealed the statutes at issue in this
    case, but simultaneously enacted 22 L.S.A. R.S. §1065.1, which
    imposes an identical 2% fee state-wide. See La. Acts 1993, No.
    834, §§5, 6, eff. June 22, 1993.
    64
    Augustus,
    771 F. Supp. at 1467-68
    .
    65
    
    Id. at 1468
    .
    66
    
    Id.
     at 1470-71 & n.24.
    67
    Arrestees also attempt to analogize the bail-fee statutes
    to the poll tax on voting that the Supreme Court struck down in
    Harper v. Virginia State Bd. of Elections, 
    383 U.S. 663
     (1966).
    Harper, however, addressed the long-recognized fundamental right
    of voting, which the Court considered “preservative of other
    basic civil and political rights.” See 
    id. at 667
     (quoting
    26
    In Bell v. Wolfish, the Supreme Court addressed a substantive due
    process challenge to a condition of confinement of a pretrial
    detainee.68       Although Bell addressed specific conditions of the
    confinement itself rather than potential barriers to release, its
    approach is instructive to our analysis of the arrestee’s due
    process challenge to the Louisiana bail-fee statutes.                   The Court
    first rejected the lower court’s conclusion that the “presumption
    of   innocence”        creates   a    fundamental     right   to   be   free   from
    conditions       of    confinement,    absent   the   government’s      compelling
    necessity.69          The Due Process Clause, it reasoned, provides “no
    basis      for   application     of   a   compelling-necessity      standard    to
    conditions of pretrial confinement that are not alleged to infringe
    any other, more specific guarantee of the Constitution.”70
    Reynolds v. Sims, 
    377 U.S. 533
    , 561-62 (1964)). This case
    addresses a fee imposed upon arrestees which neither the Supreme
    Court nor we have found invokes a fundamental right. Instead, as
    we explain here, this type of charge requires only a reasonable
    relationship to a legitimate government purpose.
    68
    
    441 U.S. 520
     (1979).
    69
    
    Id. at 532
    . We have recognized the subsequent limits
    placed on Bell by the Supreme Court with regard to the level of
    culpability required to find a due process violation. See Ortega
    v. Rowe, 
    796 F.2d 765
    , 767-68 (5th Cir. 1986) (recognizing the
    Supreme Court opinions post-Bell that found negligent behavior
    insufficient to trigger due process protection, and as a result
    requiring intentional or knowing action to conduct a Bell
    analysis). These limits, however, are not relevant in this case
    because the mental state of the sheriffs is not in question.
    70
    Bell, 
    441 U.S. at 533
    . As we explained supra, neither the
    Excessive Fines Clause, nor the Excessive Bail Clause, nor any
    other specific constitutional provision is applicable to the bail
    fee statutes.
    27
    Rather, the Court concluded in Bell that when the right being
    challenged        is   not   one   that    is   expressly    guaranteed   in    the
    Constitution, the issue merely concerns “the detainee’s right to be
    free from punishment,” which “does not warrant adoption of [a]
    compelling-necessity test.”71             Using factors laid out in Kennedy v.
    Mendoza-Martinez, the Court ruled that if there is no express
    showing of an intent to punish, and “a particular condition or
    restriction of pretrial detention is reasonably related to a
    legitimate governmental objective, it does not, without more,
    amount to ‘punishment.’”72 On the other hand, if there is no
    reasonable relationship between the restriction and a legitimate
    interest, such that the restraint is “arbitrary or purposeless ——
    a court permissibly may infer that the purpose of the governmental
    action is punishment....”73           Addressing the condition at issue in
    Bell —— the practice of double-bunking at a pretrial detention
    facility     ——    the   Court     concluded    that   the   condition    did   not
    constitute punishment because the practice was instituted for the
    purpose of dealing with increased numbers of detainees and the
    burden on the detainees was minor.74
    Bell may not be directly applicable to this case, because the
    71
    Id. at 534.
    72
    Id. at 538-39 (citing Kennedy v. Mendoza-Martinez, 
    372 U.S. 144
     (1963)).
    73
    Bell, 
    441 U.S. at 539
    .
    74
    See 
    id. at 525-26, 540-43
    .
    28
    bail-fee statutes might not constitute a condition or restriction
    on confinement as envisioned by Bell and subsequent cases.                      Bell,
    for instance, addressed the double-bunking of prisoners; and we
    subsequently     addressed    denials        of   such     items   as   visitation,
    telephone access, recreation, mail, legal materials, and showers
    for a three-day period.75            Other circuits applying Bell have
    addressed such conditions as placement in solitary confinement
    after attacking another inmate,76 administrative lockdown,77 and
    administrative segregation.78         In short, these cases deal with more
    restrictive confinement without release, not an added financial
    burden to already-sanctioned release.
    Nevertheless, Bell’s analytical framework, in addition to
    Schilb’s conclusion that such fees appear to be administrative, is
    helpful in      resolving    this    case.        Schilb    instructs    that    this
    category of fees fails to infringe any fundamental rights;                      Bell,
    in turn, articulates a test that enables us to determine whether
    such charges are reasonable administrative fees or impermissible
    arbitrary      punishment.          Thus,     the    inquiry       reduces      to   a
    75
    Hamilton v. Lyons, 
    74 F.3d 99
    , 106-07 (5th Cir. 1996).
    The court’s application of Bell in this case was slightly
    different because the plaintiff was a detained parolee instead of
    the average pretrial detainee. 
    Id. at 104
    . That distinction,
    however, does not affect the type of confinement restriction
    subject to the Bell standard.
    76
    Rapier v. Harris, 
    172 F.3d 999
    , 1001-02 (7th Cir. 1999).
    77
    O’Connor v. Huard, 
    117 F.3d 12
    , 15-16 (1st Cir. 1997).
    78
    Stevens v. McHan, 
    3 F.3d 1204
    , 1205-06 (8th Cir. 1993).
    29
    reasonableness analysis.
    Reasonableness depends on both the nature of the government
    interest itself and the extent to which the statutes at issue
    supports that purpose. Section 1432(9), the multi-sheriff statute,
    imposes a fifteen dollar fine for “taking [an] appearance bond.”
    The other two statutes impose fees for similar tasks.   The district
    court indicated that these statues “are linked to a legitimate
    government purpose of providing funds for the administration of the
    bail-bond system....”79 In their appellate brief, the sheriffs cite
    several provisions of the Louisiana Code of Criminal Procedure in
    support of their contention that the bail-bond system is entirely
    dependent on the services of the sheriff for its proper operation.
    In particular, the sheriffs emphasize that Article 344 of the
    Louisiana Code of Criminal Procedure requires the sheriff to serve
    notice on a defendant and his surety of a required appearance in
    court.80
    The connection between these fees and the bail-bond system in
    particular is less than clear.      The sheriffs seem to use Article
    344’s requirement that sheriffs give notice to arrestees to appear
    in court to demonstrate the significance of sheriffs in bail-bond
    matters. But even this requirement of sheriffs’ time appears to be
    79
    Broussard v. Parish of Orleans, No. CIV.A..00-2318,
    CIV.A.00-3055, CIV.A.00-2056, CIV.A.00-3057, 
    2001 WL 1335289
    , at
    *8 (E.D. La. Oct. 29, 2001).
    80
    La. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 344 (2002).
    30
    overstated.     Article 344 requires no additional notice when a bail
    bond fixes the initial appearance date;81 it is only when the bond
    does not fix such a date that additional notice required.82      Such
    notice neither requires action by a sheriff nor personal service of
    the notice.     Rather, it states simply that an officer of the court
    may deliver notice, or it may be sent via first class mail. 83    In
    short, the sheriffs appear to exaggerate both the amount of work
    involved and the time and effort required of sheriffs in this
    process.
    In addition, Louisiana already charges fees directly to bail
    bondsmen.      Section 1065.1 of Title 22 of the Revised Statutes
    charges a 2% fee on “all commercial surety underwriters who write
    criminal bail bonds in the state of Louisiana.”84       This statute
    specifies that 25% percent of the amount collected goes to the
    “sheriff’s general fund” and that other amounts go to the judicial
    court fund, the district attorney’s operating fund and the Indigent
    Defenders program.       As a result, this provision seems to address
    more directly the overall financing of the bail-bond system.       It
    specifies distribution of funds not just to the sheriff, but also
    to the other groups that participate in the bail-bond system.      In
    81
    Art. 344(A).
    82
    Art. 344(B).
    83
    Art. 344(B)(2).
    84
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 22:1065.1 (2003).
    31
    short, there are reasons to question the extent to which the bail-
    fee statutes at issue support the bail-bond system.
    There are also reasons, however, that supply a rational
    connection between these statutes and a legitimate government
    purpose.      Despite the sheriffs’ failure to elaborate on their
    contention, we can imagine that bail fees help offset the costs of
    paperwork and subsequent time required of sheriffs or clerks to
    keep track of those arrestees who are out on bail.         Arrestees have
    presented no evidence to demonstrate that such fees are unnecessary
    or to show that alone the funds received from the bail bondsmen tax
    and from bond forfeitures are sufficient to support the bail-bond
    system.
    Furthermore, the broader statutory scheme of which these
    provisions     are   a   part   provides   additional   support   for   the
    characterization of these bail fees as reasonable administrative
    charges.      They are part of a comprehensive schedule of fees for
    actions taken by a sheriff or clerk, including fees for serving a
    subpoena duces tecum,85 for mileage when traveling outside the
    Parish of Orleans,86 for executing warrants outside of the sheriff’s
    parish,87 and for furnishing copies of indictments.88        Although the
    85
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 33:1520(8) (2002).
    86
    § 33:1520(10).
    87
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 33:1432(7) (2002).
    88
    La. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13:1381(24) (1999).
    32
    bail-fee provisions may be unique as the only provisions that
    theoretically separate an arrestee from his or her release from
    confinement, the amount of the fee does not appear to be unduly
    burdensome.     As noted, the record is barren of evidence indicating
    that a single arrestee had to remain in jail because he or she was
    unable to pay the required fees, as distinguished from the bail
    itself.
    Even though the connection between the bail fees charged and
    the administration of the bail-bond system may be somewhat tenuous,
    especially     when   compared   to   reform    schemes   in   other   states,
    arrestees have failed to present evidence sufficient to show that
    the fees imposed are arbitrary.            Thus, we must reject arrestees’
    substantive due process challenge as well.89
    E.   OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL CLAIMS
    1. Vagueness Challenge
    Arrestees contend that the bail-fee statutes are void on
    vagueness grounds, relying on Giaccio v. Pennsylvania.90           Arrestees
    89
    Arrestees also rely on the ancient case of State ex rel.
    Leche v. Waggner, 
    8 So. 209
    , 211 (La. 1890), which struck down a
    statute almost identical to the Orleans Clerk statute. Although
    to our knowledge no case has overruled Waggner, we discern two
    reasons why its holding does not govern here. First, the Waggner
    court failed to articulate the basis on which it found this
    statute offensive, which makes it impossible for us to determine
    whether it would even be persuasive precedent to our federal
    constitutional analysis. Second, Schilb and Bell have been
    decided subsequently by the United State Supreme Court, and quite
    clearly characterize such charges as administrative fees, which
    need only relate reasonably to a legitimate government interest.
    90
    
    382 U.S. 399
     (1966).
    33
    also attempt to use Giaccio to support their argument that the bail
    fees constitute impermissible court costs.
    In Giaccio, the Supreme Court addressed a Pennsylvania law
    allowing juries that had acquitted a defendant to determine whether
    he should nevertheless pay all court costs of the prosecution.91
    The Court struck down the law as vague because it gave juries
    “broad     and   unlimited   power   in   imposing   costs   on   acquitted
    defendants,” such that it allowed them to use “their own notions of
    what the law should be instead of what it is.”92
    The bail fees charged here, in contrast, are not factually
    akin to the costs of prosecution.         Although both situations might
    involve fees charged to individuals who are ultimately acquitted,
    the Giaccio court found particularly problematic the unfettered
    power of jurors to impose their own view of the law in assessing
    fees.     The Louisiana statutes here at issue are well-defined laws
    which clearly outline the fees charged.         The fees themselves are
    small, and no judicial or executive officers are empowered to
    charge fees greater than those that are statutorily allowed.
    Neither are these fee statutes unconstitutionally vague.           In
    Buckland v. Montgomery County, a case factually more similar to
    ours than is Giaccio, the Third Circuit addressed a vagueness
    challenge to a Pennsylvania program identical to the Illinois
    91
    Id. at 400.
    92
    Id. at 403.
    34
    program considered in Schilb, except that the Pennsylvania statute
    provided for retention of a “reasonable fee,” instead of a set 1%
    of the total bail amount.93             The Buckland court rejected the
    vagueness challenge, finding that fees were established in the
    public record and were applied uniformly and with advance knowledge
    to those using the court bail program.94         Further, the variation in
    fees simply reflected the differing local conditions and expenses
    of the different geographical areas in which they were imposed.95
    Similarly, the fee amounts we consider today are stated clearly in
    the public records.          Even though sheriffs may employ different
    practices for assessing such fees, there is no evidence that any
    sheriff has charged more than the statutorily allowed amount.
    2. Temptation to Stack Charges
    Arrestees also assert that these statutes tempt sheriffs to
    stack charges against arrestees in violation of their due process
    rights.         Arrestees rely on Ward v. Village of Monroeville96 and
    Tumey v. Ohio97 to argue that these statutes give sheriffs the
    partisan        incentive   to   make   unnecessary   charges   to    maintain
    sufficient funding for their respective departments.                 Conceding
    93
    
    812 F.2d 146
    , 149 (3rd Cir. 1987).
    94
    
    Id.
    95
    
    Id.
    96
    
    409 U.S. 57
    , 59-60 (1972).
    97
    
    273 U.S. 510
    , 532 (1927).
    35
    that    Ward     and   Tumey   applied    to    judges   and    focused    on    the
    requirement that they remain impartial, arrestees nevertheless
    insist that this standard should apply to the Louisiana sheriffs
    and clerks as well, and attempt —— unsuccessfully —— to distinguish
    our holding in Brown v. Edwards.98                In making their argument,
    arrestees       seem   to   presuppose   that    the   fees    are   analogous    to
    punishment or to a determination of guilt before trial.                    That is
    the basis on which they argue that sheriffs impermissibly control
    executive and judicial functions, in violation of due process.                    As
    the preceding analysis has illustrated, however, imposing fees does
    not constitute “punishment” under Bell; thus arrestees’ reliance on
    Ward and Tumey is unavailing.
    The district court’s dismissal of this challenge is sound. It
    correctly noted that Ward and Tumey are inapplicable to this case,
    because the focus of those cases was on individuals who exercised
    a judicial function.           “[T]he test is whether [the individual’s]
    situation is one ‘which would offer a possible temptation to the
    average man as a judge to forget the burden of proof required to
    convict the defendant, or which might lead him not to hold the
    balance        nice,   clear   and   true      between   the    State     and    the
    accused....’”99
    In Brown v. Edwards, we reiterated the significance of the
    98
    
    721 F.2d 1442
     (5th Cir. 1984).
    99
    Ward, 
    409 U.S. at
    59 (citing Tumey, 
    273 U.S. at 532
    )
    (emphasis added).
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    function exercised in determining a violation of due process.
    Rejecting        a   challenge   to   a   statute   that   enables    Mississippi
    constables to collect ten dollars for each charge that results in
    a conviction, we emphasized that “an arrest by a constable is not
    judicial         action,   but   action    under    executive   or    legislative
    authority.”101        We concluded, moreover, that peace offers are not
    expected to exercise the same level of impartiality and neutrality
    as judges and magistrates.102
    Brown is controlling here.                Neither the sheriffs nor the
    clerks exercise, or are supposed to exercise, a judicial function.
    Thus, like constables, they are not expected to maintain a level of
    impartiality equal to that expected of judges.                  Consequently, a
    decision to make multiple charges and impose concomitant fees would
    not conflict, at least under relevant precedent, with any budgetary
    control they might maintain.               As in Brown, arrestees have not
    challenged the lawfulness of the original arrests.                   Assuming the
    existence of valid probable cause, which arrestees give us no
    reason to question, the sheriffs are simply carrying out their
    statutory prerogative of assessing fees based on the charges
    100
    
    721 F.2d at 1451
    .
    101
    
    Id.
    102
    
    Id.
     Arrestees incorrectly argue that Brown stands for the
    proposition that no temptation to stack charges exists when a
    constable only received fees on successful charges and after
    conviction. The Brown court, however, grounds much of its
    holding in the fact that constables are not judges, nor do they
    exercise a judicial function. 
    Id.
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    brought.
    3. Fourth Amendment Challenge
    Arrestees    finally    assert      that   being    charged     fees    in
    conjunction with bail release constitutes an unreasonable seizure
    of their person and property under the Fourth Amendment. They cite
    no cases to support this proposition; instead, they would liken the
    bail-fee requirement to the crimes of aggravated kidnapping and
    extortion, which is obviously inapt.
    In rejecting this challenge, the district court relied on the
    facts that arrestees neither challenged the validity of their
    arrest and initial detainment, nor put forth any evidence that in
    fact they were unreasonably detained as a result of the bail fee.103
    We agree with the reasoning and holding of the district court on
    this issue. As the arrestees do not challenge their initial arrest
    and confinement, i.e. they do not allege that the sheriffs lacked
    warrants   or   probable   cause,   and   as    there   is   no   evidence   of
    unreasonable delay in release, there simply is no demonstration of
    a Fourth Amendment problem.         Thus, there is neither legal nor
    factual support for arrestees’ Fourth Amendment argument.
    III. CONCLUSION
    We discern no merit in any of arrestees’ myriad arguments
    attacking the constitutionality of the several Louisiana bail-fee
    103
    Broussard v. Parish of Orleans, No. CIV.A.00-2318,
    CIV.A.00-3055, CIV.A.00-3056, CIV.A.00-3057, 
    2001 WL 1335289
    , at
    *8 (E.D.La. Oct. 29, 2001).
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    statutes here at issue.    Although the facts of this case differ
    slightly from those addressed in Schilb and Bell, their holdings
    nevertheless adequately frame our approach to this case.   As bail-
    fee statutes, these provisions are relegated to the mundane realm
    of administrative concern, never mounting the high pedestal of the
    kind of scrutiny required for fundamental rights.     Furthermore,
    even if these fees were to constitute restrictions on confinement,
    they would only need to be reasonably related to a legitimate
    government purpose. Even though the sheriffs’ reasons for charging
    these fees are relatively weak, we nonetheless find that such fees
    relate sufficiently to the bail-bond system to keep them from being
    arbitrary.   Finally, arrestees have failed to adduce evidence that
    any among them was actually detained for a longer period of time
    because of such fees, or that such fees lack any reasonable
    connection to administration of the bail-bond system, without which
    all their claims must fail.   For the foregoing reasons, therefore,
    the judgment of the district court is, in all respects,
    AFFIRMED.
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