United States v. Mansour Sanjar , 853 F.3d 190 ( 2017 )


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  •      Case: 15-20025   Document: 00513928172    Page: 1   Date Filed: 03/27/2017
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    No. 15-20025
    Fifth Circuit
    FILED
    March 27, 2017
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,                                         Lyle W. Cayce
    Clerk
    Plaintiff - Appellee Cross-Appellant
    v.
    MANSOUR SANJAR; CYRUS SAJADI; CHANDRA NUNN, ADAM MAIN;
    SHOKOUFEH HAKIMI,
    Defendants - Appellants Cross-Appellees
    SHAWN MANNEY,
    Defendant - Appellant
    Appeals from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Texas
    Before JONES, BARKSDALE, and COSTA, Circuit Judges.
    GREGG COSTA, Circuit Judge:
    The reason Willie Stark once gave for robbing banks is true of Medicare
    today: that’s where the money is. So it is not surprising that we consider
    another case alleging a scheme to defraud the multibillion dollar government
    program. A jury convicted the six defendants of that fraud as well as paying
    and receiving kickbacks for referrals. Their appeal alleges defects throughout
    the investigation and prosecution of the case, beginning with the search of the
    medical office, running through the trial, and ending with the financial
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    obligations imposed as part of their sentence. The government also appeals,
    objecting to the district court’s decision to offset the defendants’ restitution
    liability with any amounts recovered through forfeiture.
    I.
    Drs. Mansour Sanjar and Cyrus Sajadi enrolled Spectrum Psychiatric
    Services P.A., their recently formed community mental-health center, as a
    Medicare provider in 2006. For the following six years, Spectrum held itself
    out as providing partial hospitalization program (PHP) care. During that time,
    Spectrum billed Medicare over $90 million for PHP services.
    PHPs offer intensive treatment to mentally-ill patients, serving as an
    alternative to traditional hospitalization.     To qualify, a patient must be
    suffering a severe onset of his or her illness; a situation the government’s
    expert describes as a “crisis.” Qualifying patients are required to undergo
    mental-health evaluations within twenty-four hours of admission, see a doctor
    daily, and receive twenty hours of treatment weekly. Given the intensive
    nature of PHP care, Medicare reimburses it at a higher rate than alternative
    treatments.
    That financial incentive led Sanjar and Sajadi to submit what the jury
    found to be fraudulent bills.      The evidence, construed in favor of the
    government as the jury’s verdict requires, showed that the bills were
    fraudulent in two respects. Patients, although they had a history of mental
    illness, were not suffering from the acute onsets PHP serves. One patient, for
    example, testified that at the time she was admitted to Spectrum, she was not
    experiencing a severe episode of her chronic depression or any other mental-
    health issues. Spectrum’s pattern of PHP care was also at odds with the acute
    onset that the program covers. Such episodes should be random, but Spectrum
    cycled patients between PHP and the intensive outpatient program (IOP)—a
    less intensive treatment with lower reimbursement rates—according to set
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    timelines: ninety days in PHP, then four to six weeks in IOP, at which time the
    cycle would restart.
    Apart from whether PHP treatment was medically necessary for the
    patients, the clinic was not providing that level of care. Patient after patient
    billed as PHP participants testified to never interacting with doctors for more
    than ten minutes. Instead, they often spent their time at Spectrum watching
    movies, playing games, listening to music, and socializing. So recreational and
    diversionary were the services Spectrum provided that one patient described
    it as a “Mickey Mouse facility.”
    Such a scheme, of course, requires patients. This is where three other
    defendants and the kickbacks come into play.                  Spectrum’s Office
    Administrator, Shokoufeh Hakimi, oversaw this effort.         Hakimi first used
    Charles Roberts to recruit patients. Roberts, who pleaded guilty and testified
    at trial, paid group-home operators to send their Medicare-eligible residents to
    Spectrum. Among those to whom Roberts gave kickbacks were group-home
    owners Chandra Nunn and Shawn Manney.              Roberts paid each $100 per
    patient every two weeks, which was half of what he earned.            Apparently
    concerned about detection, Nunn required her payments in cash.
    Before long, Nunn’s greed overcame her initial timidity. She cut Roberts
    out of the scheme and began dealing directly with Sanjar, Sajadi, and Hakimi.
    Her referrals alone spawned $28.5 million in PHP claims for Spectrum. Nunn
    maintained her steady supply of Medicare beneficiaries by paying residents of
    her group home to attend Spectrum. She gave payments the way she took
    them: in cash. A group-home resident testified that Nunn once gave her
    envelopes full of money, labeled with residents’ names, to hand out to other
    residents attending Spectrum.
    The final defendant, Physician Assistant Adam Main, helped cover up
    the fraud. Sanjar and Sajadi had him falsify and backdate medical charts to
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    make it appear patients were suffering severe onsets of mental illnesses. One
    patient’s file, for example, lists that he was suffering from major depressive
    disorder, undergoing daily panic attacks, and relapsing on cocaine. But at trial
    the patient testified that he was not experiencing any such symptoms when he
    met with Main, had never before been diagnosed with major depressive
    disorder, and could not afford cocaine.
    The doctors similarly instructed Head Social Worker Terry Moore,
    another Spectrum employee who pleaded guilty and testified, to print and affix
    new dates to prior mental-health evaluations for repeat patients. Sanjar and
    Sajadi further signed medical charts even when they did not oversee patient
    evaluations.
    This operation lasted half a decade.          Although Medicare paid out
    nowhere close to the more than $90 million Spectrum sought for PHP
    reimbursements, it did pay just under $7 million. 1
    Federal agents began to focus on Spectrum after arresting Roberts for
    his role as a recruiter in a separate health care fraud scheme.              Roberts
    cooperated and the information he provided about Spectrum launched an
    investigation that resulted in an indictment charging:
    • Sanjar, Sajadi, Hakimi, Main, and Nunn with conspiracy to commit
    health care fraud, in violation of 
    18 U.S.C. § 1349
     (Count One);
    • Four counts of health care fraud under 
    18 U.S.C. § 1347
     tied to some
    of the conspirators (Counts Two-Five) 2;
    • Sanjar, Sajadi, Hakimi, Nunn, and Manney with conspiracy to
    defraud the United States and pay health care kickbacks, in violation
    of 
    18 U.S.C. § 371
     (Count Six); and
    1  Unexplained in the record is why Spectrum was paid such a small percentage of
    what it sought from Medicare for these and other claims.
    2 Count Two charges Sanjar. Count Three charges Sajadi and Main. Count Four
    charges Sanjar and Main. Count Five charges Sajadi and Main.
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    • Five counts of health care kickbacks under 42 U.S.C. § 1320a-7b(b)(1),
    (b)(2) tied to some of the conspirators (Counts Seven-Eleven) 3.
    A jury found defendants guilty of all but the kickback charge in Count
    Nine that applied to Sanjar and Manney. Based on varying assessments of
    each defendant’s role in the offense, the district court sentenced them to terms
    of imprisonment ranging from 24 to 148 months. Sanjar, Sajadi, and Main
    were further ordered to pay restitution and forfeit illegal proceeds.
    II.
    Sanjar alleges error in the way the government investigated the case,
    contending that the warrant authorizing the search of Spectrum does not
    comply with the constitutional requirement that it “particularly describ[e] the
    . . . things to be seized.” U.S. CONST. amend. IV.
    We interpret that language to require enough detail in the warrant to
    allow a reasonable agent to know what items she is permitted to take. United
    States v. Aguirre, 
    664 F.3d 606
    , 614 (5th Cir. 2011). The concern is that the
    magistrate authorizing the warrant, and not the agents executing it, should be
    deciding which items may be seized. United States v. Allen, 
    625 F.3d 830
    , 834–
    35 (5th Cir. 2010) (citing Marron v. United States, 
    275 U.S. 192
    , 196 (1927)).
    Generic language may satisfy this “particularity” requirement if describing a
    more specific item is not possible. Williams v. Kunze, 
    806 F.2d 594
    , 598 (5th
    Cir. 1986).
    The warrant must further not be overbroad, meaning “there must be
    probable cause to seize the particular things named in the warrant.” United
    States v. SDI Future Health, Inc., 
    568 F.3d 684
    , 702 (9th Cir. 2009). This
    related but distinct concept flows from the probable cause requirement.
    3 Count Seven charges Hakimi. Count Eight charges Sanjar, Sajadi, and Nunn. Count
    Nine charges Sanjar and Manney. Count Ten charges Sajadi and Nunn. Count Eleven
    charges Sanjar and Nunn.
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    Together, the two aspects of the Fourth Amendment require that (1) a warrant
    provide sufficient notice of what the agents may seize and (2) probable cause
    exist to justify listing those items as potential evidence subject to seizure.
    Kunze, 
    806 F.2d at
    598–99 (treating these as separate questions).
    Sanjar’s challenge, which mostly objects to the warrant allowing seizure
    of all patient files, seems to be more about the latter. In terms of the notice
    the former requires, the warrant authorizes seizure of “documents constituting
    . . . patient files” as well as those relating to Medicare claims, the PHP program,
    and Spectrum’s finances.      That list, even if somewhat generic, provided
    sufficient notice of what items the agents could take. Aguirre, 
    664 F.3d at 614
    (rejecting a particularity challenge even when the items seized were only the
    “functional equivalent” of those listed in the warrant); Kunze, 
    806 F.2d at 598
    (rejecting particularity challenge to a seizure of 50,000 to 60,000 documents,
    over 90% of which were client files, because the warrant “specifically
    authorized” the seizure of those documents). The agents did not seize the
    patient files because of a judgment call they made when executing the warrant;
    they seized the files because the magistrate had expressly authorized them to
    do so. Marron, 
    275 U.S. at 196
    .
    The principal question is thus whether the broad authorization to seize
    all patient files (and other listed categories of documents) was supported by
    probable cause. The scope of the seizure depends on the scope of the suspected
    crime. Kunze, 
    806 F.2d at 598
     (explaining that a warrant authorizing seizure
    of all of a company’s records would be lawful when “probable cause exists to
    believe that an entire business was merely a scheme to defraud, or that all
    records of a business are likely to constitute evidence”).         If the evidence
    presented to the magistrate provided probable cause of fraud limited to a
    particular patient or group of patients, the resulting warrant authorizing
    seizure of all of Spectrum’s patient files would be problematic.
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    But the magistrate’s authorization to seize all of Spectrum’s patient files
    was supported by evidence of pervasive fraud in the PHP program, which was
    a major part of the clinic’s business. The affidavit summarized information
    from two former Spectrum employees and two patients revealing that (1)
    patients ended up in PHP because of fees paid to recruiters and patients, not
    because of physician referrals, and (2) the time the patients spent at Spectrum
    was spent watching television, playing bingo, and coloring rather than
    receiving the PHP treatment being billed to Medicare—billings that exceeded
    $90 million.   The information presented to the magistrate thus provided
    probable cause to conclude that fraud and kickbacks infected the entire PHP
    program. That evidence of a wide-ranging conspiracy and scheme justified the
    seizure of patient files, at a minimum those of PHP patients used in the
    prosecution. Kunze, 
    806 F.2d at 599
     (rejecting argument that authority to seize
    all client files of tax consultant was overbroad because probable cause
    supported widespread fraud involving offshore tax shelters and even files
    relating to onshore transactions that may provide relevant evidence). The
    district court did not err in declining to suppress the evidence seized pursuant
    to the warrant.
    III.
    Defendants next claim error in how the grand jury indicted the case. We
    review these claims de novo. United States v. Jones, 
    733 F.3d 574
    , 584 (5th
    Cir. 2013); United States v. Miller, 
    520 F.3d 504
    , 512–13 (5th Cir. 2008).
    A.
    Sanjar and Nunn contend the two conspiracies listed in the indictment—
    the first for defrauding Medicare under the specific health care fraud
    conspiracy statute (
    18 U.S.C. §§ 1347
    , 1349); the second for defrauding the
    government and violating the Anti-Kickback Statute under the general
    conspiracy statute (
    18 U.S.C. § 371
    )—charge a single crime. Such a problem,
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    which courts label “multiplicity,” exists when a defendant is punished twice for
    the same conduct. United States v. Ogba, 
    526 F.3d 214
    , 232–33 (5th Cir. 2008).
    As this doctrine is derived from the Double Jeopardy Clause, it looks to the
    Blockburger 4 test asking “whether each provision requires proof of a fact which
    the other does not.” Albernaz v. United States, 
    450 U.S. 333
    , 337 (1981). In
    making that determination, we look not just at the elements of the statutes but
    also at how the offenses were charged in the indictment and presented at trial.
    Ogba, 
    526 F.3d at 234
    .
    The centerpiece of the health care fraud conspiracy alleged in Count One
    was the “submitting [of] false and fraudulent claims to Medicare.” That can
    occur independent of any kickbacks paid for referrals. The purpose of the
    section 371 conspiracy in Count Six, on the other hand, was the payment and
    receipt of kickbacks. That can occur without the submission of any fraudulent
    Medicare claims. 5 Section 371 also requires an overt act, which section 1349
    does not. We have before held that indictments charging these conspiracies do
    not pose a multiplicity problem and the same is true of these allegations.
    Jones, 733 F.3d at 584; see also United States v. Njoku, 
    737 F.3d 55
    , 68 (5th
    Cir. 2013); United States v. Moran, 
    778 F.3d 942
    , 964 (11th Cir. 2015).
    B.
    Sanjar also alleges the opposite problem, duplicity, for Counts Six, Eight,
    and Eleven. Duplicity occurs when a single count alleges multiple offenses.
    Miller, 
    520 F.3d at 512
    . A duplicitous indictment is only cause for reversal if
    4 Blockburger v. United States, 
    284 U.S. 299
     (1932).
    5 Although Count Six lists not just violation of the Anti-Kickback Statute as an object
    of the conspiracy, but also section 371’s general “defraud[ing] the United States,” that portion
    of the charge focuses not on financial harm to the government but “impairing . . . through
    deceitful and dishonest means, the lawful government functions of the United States
    Department of Health and Human Services in its administration and oversight of the
    Medicare program.” It therefore does not overlap with the first conspiracy’s focus on financial
    harm.
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    the defendant was prejudiced by the duplicity. 
    Id.
     The most common way such
    a charge harms a defendant is when it allows a nonunanimous verdict with all
    jurors finding the defendant guilty but not necessarily of the same offense. 
    Id.
    at 512–13.
    The duplicity challenge to Count Six is based on a feature we just
    mentioned: it charges defendants with conspiring to both (1) defraud the
    government and (2) violate the Anti-Kickback Statute. Although the alleged
    conspiracy has two objects, the offense charged is a single conspiracy. As far
    back as 1949, it was “well settled that the conspiracy may contemplate several
    offenses.” Burton v. United States, 
    175 F.2d 960
    , 963 (5th Cir. 1949); see also
    United States v. Duvall, 
    846 F.2d 966
    , 975 n.8 (5th Cir. 1988) (labeling the
    argument Sanjar makes “frivolous”).
    Sanjar is, however, correct that Counts Eight and Eleven each charge
    separate offenses: (1) paying kickbacks and (2) receiving kickbacks. 42 U.S.C.
    § 1320a-7b(b)(1) (criminalizing receipt of kickbacks); id. § 1320a-7b(b)(2)
    (criminalizing payment of kickbacks). But the government’s theory, reflected
    in both the indictment and the trial evidence, was that certain defendants paid
    kickbacks (Sanjar, Sajadi, and Hakimi), whereas others received them (Nunn
    and Manney). As there was no evidence that Sanjar ever received kickbacks,
    there is no risk that the jury convicted him of that crime. See United States v.
    Vernon, 
    723 F.3d 1234
    , 1262 (11th Cir. 2013) (holding that a count charging
    both paying and receiving kickbacks was not cause for reversal when the
    indictment and trial evidence left no possibility that the duplicity defects led
    the jury to convict the defendant of the unfitting offense).
    The indictment does not present any reversible error.
    IV.
    We now reach the trial, during which the defendants contend the district
    court made erroneous evidentiary rulings. We review such rulings for abuse
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    of discretion, subject to a harmful error analysis. United States v. Delgado, 
    668 F.3d 219
    , 226 (5th Cir. 2012); Chapman v. California, 
    386 U.S. 18
    , 23 (1967)
    (explaining that error is not harmless if “there is a reasonable possibility that
    the evidence complained of might have contributed to the conviction”).
    A.
    The first ruling is the district court’s decision to allow four Spectrum
    patients to testify about their mental health. Hakimi says this was improper
    lay witness opinion testimony.
    Much of the challenged testimony, however, is not opinion. A patient’s
    drug history, what a patient told medical personnel, and the diagnosis a
    patient has received is factual testimony, subject as all evidence is to being
    challenged for its veracity.
    Some of the testimony, such as the severity of a patient’s mental
    condition, is more in the nature of the opinion testimony that Federal Rule of
    Evidence 701 addresses.        Examples of this category include a patient’s
    recollection that she was not experiencing visual or auditory hallucinations
    upon admission to Spectrum and was similarly not suffering acute psychotic
    symptoms. Another is a patient’s testimony that he was not feeling badly
    enough to label his depression major.
    Lay witnesses may offer opinion testimony if it is rationally based on
    their perception, helpful to determining a fact in issue, and not based on
    specialized knowledge. FED. R. EVID. 701. Even if such testimony requires
    some specialized knowledge, it is admissible so long as the lay witness offers
    straightforward conclusions from observations informed by his or her
    experience. See United States v. Riddle, 
    103 F.3d 423
    , 429 (5th Cir. 1997).
    The challenged testimony satisfies these requirements. Each patient
    spoke only to his or her condition.          The testimony assisted the jury in
    determining whether patients required PHP services.            And, even if the
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    statements implicate specialized knowledge, they were informed by the
    patient’s experience—they are the ones living with the mental illnesses.
    Allowing this testimony was not erroneous.
    B.
    Next is the claim that the district court should not have limited the
    examination of a federal agent who testified about some of Sanjar’s postarrest
    statements. Among other things, the agent testified on direct that Sanjar said
    he did not care to know: (1) if kickbacks were paid at Spectrum and (2) that
    overuse of ambulances was rampant. On cross, defense counsel asked the
    agent about other postarrest statements Sanjar made, including the name of
    the outreach employee supervisor and that Roberts was fired for paying
    kickbacks. The court disallowed the inquiry on hearsay grounds. It also denied
    Sanjar’s request to introduce a law enforcement report summarizing his
    statements, which the agent had reviewed before testifying.
    When offered by the government, a defendant’s out-of-court statements
    are those of a party opponent and thus not hearsay. FED. R. EVID. 801(d)(2).
    When offered by the defense, however, such statements are hearsay (the
    defendant may, of course, reiterate the out-of-court statements on the stand if
    he chooses to testify).
    Sanjar tries to get around the hearsay problem by invoking the rule of
    optional completeness, citing both Federal Rule of Evidence 106 and its
    common law counterpart.
    Rule 106 protects against written works being presented out of context.
    United States v. Garcia, 
    530 F.3d 348
    , 351 (5th Cir. 2008). It states that if a
    party offers part of a recorded statement, an adverse party may require the
    introduction of any other part that ought to be considered at the same time.
    FED. R. EVID. 106. The language of Rule 106 expressly limits it “to situations
    in which part of a writing or recorded statement is introduced into evidence.”
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    Garcia, 
    530 F.3d at 351
     (emphasis added). That said, the Eleventh Circuit has
    held that testimony may nonetheless fall within the rule’s ambit if it is
    “tantamount” to offering a recorded statement into evidence. 
    Id.
     at 352 (citing
    United States v. Pendas-Martinez, 
    845 F.2d 938
    , 943 (11th Cir. 1988)). But we
    have held that this standard is not met in the situation here when the agent
    neither read from the report nor quoted it. Id. at 353. Rule 106 is thus
    inapplicable. Moreover, the Rule would only have required the introduction of
    the report; it does not address Sanjar’s primary concern about the scope of cross
    examination.
    The common law rule of completeness, which is just a corollary of the
    principle that relevant evidence is generally admissible, does provide a right
    to cross examine. Beech Aircraft Corp. v. Rainey, 
    488 U.S. 153
    , 171–72 (1988).
    The rule comes into play, however, only when the additional inquiry is needed
    to “explain, vary, or contradict” the testimony already given. United States v.
    Paquet, 
    484 F.2d 208
    , 212 (5th Cir. 1973). The other statements by Sanjar that
    defense counsel sought to ask the agent about, many of which are assertions of
    innocence, were “not necessary to qualify, explain, or place into context” the
    limited statements the agent testified about on direct. United States v. Self,
    414 F. App’x 611, 615 (5th Cir. 2011). 6
    Related to the same agent testimony, Main contends the district court’s
    limitation of cross examination violated the Confrontation Clause. United
    States v. Skelton, 
    514 F.3d 433
    , 439–40 (5th Cir. 2008). He contends the jury
    would have formed a substantially different impression of Sanjar’s sincerity
    had the agent been allowed to confirm some of Sanjar’s exculpatory
    statements. This argument misses the mark. The credibility of the testifying
    6 Under Fifth Circuit Rule 47.5.4, our unpublished cases are not precedential. We rely
    on this case and the other unpublished decisions cited in this opinion only to the extent they
    reflect consistent and well-reasoned analysis of these issues.
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    agent, not Sanjar, is the interest of the Confrontation Clause. 
    Id.
     The district
    court did, moreover, permit some cross examination of the agent’s testimony
    concerning Sanjar’s postarrest statements, which in any event were not all that
    prejudicial because Sanjar did not admit guilt in those statements. The district
    court did not abuse its wide latitude over management of the trial by
    sustaining some objections to that line of questioning.
    C.
    The last disputed evidentiary ruling is the district court’s decision to
    allow another agent to testify that a binder, dubbed the Nunn Binder because
    it documents referrals from and payments to Nunn, was found in Hakimi’s
    office. Hakimi says this testimony was hearsay because the testifying agent
    did not actually seize the binder and thus must have been relying on another
    agent’s statement to that effect.
    The district court did not err in concluding the location of the binder was
    within the testifying agent’s personal knowledge. The agent, who supervised
    the search, testified that he knew the location based on labels that agents used
    to designate different locations at Spectrum.        In any event, any error in
    admitting this single statement was harmless in light of the other substantial
    evidence presented at the month-long trial showing that Hakimi paid
    kickbacks and meticulously monitored the referrals.
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    V.
    Defendants also see error in how the court instructed the jury. 7 We
    review the propriety of jury instructions for abuse of discretion, subject again
    to a harmless error analysis. United States v. Cessa, 
    785 F.3d 165
    , 185 (5th
    Cir. 2015). In so doing, we consider whether the charge, as a whole, is a correct
    statement of law. 
    Id.
    A.
    Defendants’ first objection is to the court’s instruction on the Anti-
    Kickback Statute’s safe harbor provision, which shields bona fide employees
    receiving income for their recruiting services from being found guilty under the
    Anti-Kickback Statute. They contend that it is an impermissible mandatory
    presumption. Such a presumption tells the jury it must infer a fact if the
    government proves certain predicate facts. 
    Id.
     While a district court should
    not give such an instruction, it may instruct on permissive inferences, which
    suggest to the jury only a possible conclusion to be drawn if the government
    proves predicate facts. 
    Id.
     In assessing whether an instruction is a mandatory
    presumption, we look first to its wording and then consider it in the context of
    the whole charge. 
    Id.
    The contested charge reads as follows: “If you find that any part of the
    payment to a defendant was made to compensate past referrals or to induce
    future referrals, that portion of the payment violates the Anti-Kickback
    Statute and is not subject to the safe harbor.”
    7  Aside from the arguments about the instructions discussed below, Main contends for
    the first time on appeal that a factual unanimity instruction was required for the conspiracy
    to commit health care fraud because the “manner and means” section of that charge lists
    three different ways he helped the conspiracy. He cites no caselaw, nor are we aware of any,
    that requires unanimity as to the alleged manner and means, which is not an element of the
    conspiracy offense. The crime charged, and thus the issue on which a jury must be
    unanimous to convict a defendant under section 1349, is the conspiring to commit health care
    fraud.
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    The defendants’ concern relates to the legal conclusion the instruction
    tells the jury to reach if it determines the payments were made for prohibited
    purposes. It does not just define the scope of the safe harbor defense (“is not
    subject to the safe harbor”), but can also be read as requiring a conviction so
    long as that one fact concerning the purpose of the payments is proven (“that
    portion of the payment violates the Anti-Kickback Statute”). As Hakimi notes,
    there are elements beyond the existence of a kickback that the government
    must prove: that the defendant paid or received the kickback and acted
    knowingly and willfully. 42 U.S.C. § 1320a–7b(b).
    Even read in isolation, we are not convinced that this safe harbor
    instruction fits within the due process cases dealing with mandatory
    presumptions.     That line of Supreme Court cases involves just that,
    presumptions. See, e.g., Rose v. Clark, 
    478 U.S. 570
    , 574 (1986) (“All homicides
    are presumed to be malicious in the absence of evidence which would rebut the
    implied presumption.”); Francis v. Franklin, 
    471 U.S. 307
    , 315 (1985) (“The
    acts of a person of sound mind and discretion are presumed to be the product
    of the person’s will . . . ”); Sandstrom v. Montana, 
    442 U.S. 510
    , 513 (1979)
    (“[T]he law presumes that a person intends the ordinary consequences of his
    voluntary acts.”). Such presumptions ask a jury to assume “that a fact exists
    because of the known or proven existence of some other fact.” BLACK’S LAW
    DICTIONARY 1375 (10th ed. 2014); see also Cessa, 785 F.3d at 185. We recently
    applied this doctrine to an instruction not expressly framed in terms of a
    presumption but that required the jury to find certain evidence to be probative
    of an element of the crime. Cessa, 785 F.3d at 184 (“[T]he commingling of
    illegal proceeds with legitimate business funds is evidence of intent to conceal
    or disguise.”).
    Unlike those cases, the safe harbor instruction is not telling the jury
    what evidence it must find probative or what presumptions it must apply; it
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    instead tells the jury the legal consequence of a factual finding it has the
    discretion to make. The challenged instruction thus more closely adheres to
    the fact/law allocation of power between judge and jury than do the classic
    presumptions that intrude on the jury’s exclusive domain to decide the facts.
    In informing the jury of the legal consequences of its factfinding, it is akin to
    other instructions. Consider the pattern charge for entrapment: “If you should
    find beyond a reasonable doubt . . . the defendant was ready and willing to
    commit such a crime as charged in the indictment, whenever opportunity was
    afforded, and that government officers or their agents did no more than offer
    the opportunity, then you should find that the defendant is not a victim of
    entrapment.” PATTERN JURY INSTRUCTIONS: FIFTH CIRCUIT (CRIMINAL) § 1.28
    (2015).
    The problem then is not one of presumptions, but rather that the
    instruction erroneously describes the legal consequence of a jury finding that
    part of the compensation was for referrals: that this means not just that the
    safe harbor defense is not applicable but also that the government has proven
    that the Anti-Kickback Statute was violated. 8 But the jury charge as a whole
    did not mislead the jury. The challenged safe harbor instruction was given
    only after the court had instructed the jury four times in general terms that
    the government must prove each defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
    and then specifically told the jury that all elements of the kickback offenses
    must be proven by that same standard.                 Only after all this, and when
    addressing the safe harbor defense which it explained a defendant had to prove
    8The instruction is an accurate statement of the law as it relates to the scope of the
    safe harbor defense. United States v. Davis, 
    132 F.3d 1092
    , 1094 (5th Cir. 1998) (rejecting
    argument that government must prove that a payment was for “no other purpose than
    inducing the referral of Medicare patients”) (internal quotation marks omitted). But again,
    Hakimi’s primary argument is that a rejection of the safe harbor defense does not mean the
    government has met its burden of proving all elements.
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    by a preponderance of the evidence, did the court give the challenged
    instruction. A jury logically working through the charge thus would have
    considered the safe harbor defense only after determining that the government
    had proven a violation of the statute. The language and structure of the entire
    charge therefore could not have led the jury to believe that this one statement
    made in the context of an affirmative defense relieved the government of its
    much-emphasized burden to prove each element of the Anti-Kickback statute.
    B.
    Main objects to the instruction that allowed the jury to conclude he had
    knowledge of the Medicare fraud conspiracy if he “deliberately closed his eyes
    to what would otherwise have been obvious to him.” This instruction may be
    given when a defendant claims a lack of guilty knowledge and the evidence
    supports an inference of deliberate indifference. Delgado, 
    668 F.3d at 227
    .
    The thrust of Main’s defense was that he did not know about the criminal
    activity. That defense was rebutted with evidence showing (1) Main was
    actually aware of, let alone had reason to suspect, the health care fraud, United
    States v. Lara-Velasquez, 
    919 F.2d 946
    , 952 (5th Cir. 1990) (explaining that
    evidence giving rise to an inference of actual knowledge also gives rise to an
    inference of subjective awareness), and (2) Main did not follow up with Sanjar
    or Sajadi after a patient complained to him about a tardy kickback. This
    permitted the court to give the deliberate ignorance instruction. 9 See United
    States v. Barson, 
    845 F.3d 159
    , 166 (5th Cir. 2016).
    9Sanjar also raises this issue but makes no argument regarding why the instruction
    was improper. In any event, the evidence likewise raises the requisite inferences as to him.
    As discussed above, Sanjar had actual knowledge of the conspiracy and told a federal agent
    that he was not interested in learning about kickbacks.
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    C.
    Main next objects to the district court’s refusal to instruct on good faith.
    Failure to instruct on good faith is not fatal when the jury is given a detailed
    instruction on specific intent and the defendant has the opportunity to argue
    good faith to the jury. United States v. Storm, 
    36 F.3d 1289
    , 1294–95 (5th Cir.
    1994). Both conditions exist here. The court told the jury that the defendants
    must have acted “with bad purpose either to disobey or disregard the law.”
    And Main argued good faith during closing, asserting he merely performed his
    duties as a physician’s assistant and provided treatment to the patients.
    D.
    The last objection is to the instruction on a conspirator’s liability for a
    fellow conspirator’s crimes.        See Pinkerton v. United States, 
    328 U.S. 640
    (1946). Sanjar contends that (1) the instruction did not require a finding that
    the substantive offense was foreseeable, and (2) Wharton’s Rule prohibits
    Pinkerton liability for a substantive violation of the Anti-Kickback Statute
    because in his view that crime requires multiple participants (the payor and
    payee of the kickback). 10
    1.
    The district court’s Pinkerton instruction said: “A conspirator is
    responsible for offenses committed by other conspirators if the conspirator was
    a member of the conspiracy when the offense was committed and if the offense
    was committed in furtherance of, or as a foreseeable consequence of, the
    conspiracy.”
    Sanjar argues the disjunctive language is error as Pinkerton liability
    applies only to crimes committed in furtherance of the conspiracy that were
    10Main also contends that the indictment had to provide notice of Pinkerton liability.
    He cites no support for this argument, and we have held that our case law provides sufficient
    notice. United States v. Jimenez, 
    509 F.3d 682
    , 692 (5th Cir. 2007).
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    reasonably foreseeable. Many of our cases, both recent and old, agree with
    Sanjar’s formulation. See, e.g., United States v. Danhach, 
    815 F.3d 228
    , 235
    (5th Cir. 2016) (“Under Pinkerton, a conspirator can be found guilty of a
    substantive offense committed by a co-conspirator and in furtherance of the
    conspiracy, so long as the co-conspirator’s acts are reasonably foreseeable.”
    (internal quotation marks omitted)); United States v. Heffington, 
    682 F.2d 1075
    , 1083 (5th Cir. 1982) (citing Pinkerton to require both in furtherance of
    and foreseeability). That is consistent with Pinkerton itself. 
    328 U.S. at
    647–
    48 (noting the doctrine would not apply “if the substantive offense committed
    by one of the conspirators was not in fact done in furtherance of the conspiracy,
    did not fall within the scope of the unlawful project, or was merely a part of the
    ramifications of the plan which could not be reasonably foreseen as a necessary
    or natural consequence of the unlawful agreement”).
    Somewhere along the way, our case law departed from this
    understanding and began omitting “foreseeability” as a requirement for
    Pinkerton liability; it was enough that the act was committed in furtherance of
    the conspiracy. See, e.g., United States v. Thomas, 
    348 F.3d 78
    , 84–85 (5th Cir.
    2003); United States v. Dean, 
    59 F.3d 1479
    , 1490 n.18 (5th Cir. 1995). The
    2001 Pattern Jury Instructions thus included the disjunctive instruction given
    in this case. PATTERN JURY INSTRUCTIONS: FIFTH CIRCUIT (CRIMINAL) § 2.22
    (2001). When that version of the pattern charges was in effect, we upheld that
    instruction given its support in some of our caselaw while recognizing that it
    departed from the traditional understanding of Pinkerton and created a circuit
    split. United States v. Armstrong, 
    619 F.3d 380
    , 387 n.4 (5th Cir. 2010) (citing
    United States v. Gonzalez, 
    570 F.3d 16
    , 26 n.8 (1st Cir. 2009)).
    Noting the concerns raised in Armstrong, the current Pattern Jury
    Instructions—issued after this case was tried—restore “foreseeability” and “in
    furtherance of” as independent requirements. PATTERN JURY INSTRUCTIONS:
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    FIFTH CIRCUIT (CRIMINAL) § 2.17 (2015). The better course is for district courts
    to follow the updated pattern and instruct the jury in the conjunctive as a
    finding of foreseeability mitigates due process concerns that sometimes arise
    with Pinkerton’s vicarious liability. See generally United States v. Alvarez, 
    755 F.2d 830
    , 849–50 (11th Cir. 1985).
    Nonetheless, using the 2001 Pattern Jury Instruction here was not
    reversible error.   First off, Armstrong rejected a challenge to that very
    instruction. 
    619 F.3d at 387
    . And importantly, foreseeability is usually not
    disputed in a case like this one in which Pinkerton liability is extending only
    to the substantive offense that is the object of the conspiracy. United States v.
    Wynter, 379 F. App’x 841, 848–49 (11th Cir. 2010) (distinguishing cases “in
    which the substantive crime that is the subject of the Pinkerton charge is also
    one of the primary goals of the alleged conspiracy” from “cases in which the
    substantive crime is not a primary goal of the alleged conspiracy, but directly
    facilitates the achievement of one of the primary goals”). In other words, how
    could the payment of kickbacks not be foreseeable to a participant in a
    kickback conspiracy?      Foreseeability is more often an issue when the
    substantive offense for which Pinkerton liability is being sought is not an object
    of the conspiracy, such as when prosecutors are seeking to hold drug trafficking
    conspirators liable for firearms and murder offenses committed by fellow
    dealers. See, e.g., United States v. Gonzales, 
    841 F.3d 339
    , 351–53 (5th Cir.
    2016). Failure to require a foreseeability finding is not reversible error.
    2.
    Although framed in terms of a challenge to the Pinkerton instruction,
    Sanjar’s Wharton’s Rule argument is really about whether conspiracy to
    violate the Anti-Kickback Statute and an actual violation of that law can be
    punished as separate crimes. The general rule is that “a conspiracy and the
    substantive offense that is its immediate end are discrete crimes for which
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    separate sanctions may be imposed.” Iannelli v. United States, 
    420 U.S. 770
    ,
    771 (1975).     Wharton’s Rule, named after the nineteenth century treatise
    writer who summarized the doctrine, is an exception. 
    Id. at 773
    . It provides
    that when the substantive crime requires more than one actor (adultery is the
    anachronistic example Wharton cites), conspiracy should not be additional
    punishment to a crime that already requires concerted action. 11 
    Id.
     at 772–74
    (citing 2 F. WHARTON, CRIMINAL LAW § 1604, p. 1862 (12th ed. 1932)). The
    narrow rule is implicated “[o]nly when it is impossible under any circumstances
    to commit the substantive offense without cooperative action.” United States
    v. Payan, 
    992 F.2d 1387
    , 1390 (5th Cir. 1993) (citing Gebardi v. United States,
    
    287 U.S. 112
    , 122 (1932)). That is not the case with the Anti-Kickback Statute.
    One can violate it just for soliciting a kickback. 42 U.S.C. § 1320a-7b(b)(1).
    Convictions for both conspiracy to violate the Anti-Kickback Statute and
    actually violating that law are allowed.
    VI.
    In response to the instructions it was given, the jury returned guilty
    verdicts on all counts except for the kickback charge in Count Nine.
    Defendants challenge the sufficiency of the evidence to support these counts.
    We must affirm the verdict unless no rational juror could have found guilt
    beyond a reasonable doubt. Njoku, 737 F.3d at 62 (instructing that we view
    the evidence “in the light most favorable to the government,” draw all
    inferences “in support of the jury’s verdict,” and “ask whether a rational trier
    of fact could have found the essential elements of the crime beyond a
    reasonable doubt”).
    11 As is often the case, there is an exception to this exception. Wharton’s Rule is just
    a “judicial presumption, to be applied in the absence of legislative intent to the contrary.”
    United States v. Payan, 
    992 F.2d 1387
    , 1391 (5th Cir. 1993) (quoting Iannelli, 
    420 U.S. at 782
    ) (holding that Congress intended for conspiracy and aiding and abetting to be separately
    punishable).
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    A.
    The defendants convicted of the health care fraud offenses—all but
    Manney, who just faced kickback charges—though separately challenging
    their individual convictions raise similar legal issues. To be guilty of health
    care fraud, a defendant must have knowingly and willfully executed a scheme
    to defraud a government health care program like Medicare. 
    18 U.S.C. § 1347
    ;
    United States v. Willett, 
    751 F.3d 335
    , 339 (5th Cir. 2014). Willfully joining
    with another to engage in such a scheme, with awareness of the agreement’s
    unlawful purpose, is a conspiracy to commit health care fraud. 
    18 U.S.C. § 1349
    ; Njoku, 737 F.3d at 63.
    Echoing their argument concerning the admissibility of patient
    testimony about mental conditions, defendants assert that expert testimony
    from a doctor who reviewed the patient files is required for a jury to find that
    the PHP treatment was not medically necessary. As an initial matter, this
    argument focuses on only one of the theories the government advanced for why
    the PHP billings were fraudulent. It ignores the extensive evidence showing
    that PHP treatment, whether needed or not, was not being provided in the
    “Mickey Mouse” facility. That alone supports the findings of health care fraud.
    But we also do not see any basis for a categorical rule that expert
    testimony is required for a jury finding of medical necessity. Defendants cite
    medical malpractice cases for such a requirement. In addition to those being
    state law civil cases, medical malpractice focuses on whether a doctor properly
    treated a patient’s condition, not on whether the patient actually had the
    condition. It makes sense that expert testimony from physicians is needed for
    the former. But on the latter question, the patient certainly has something to
    offer. Just about any visit to a doctor begins with self-reporting: What are your
    symptoms? When did they start? How severe is the pain?
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    The importance of self-reporting, especially for mental illnesses for
    which there is often little corroborating visual evidence that modern medicine
    has for many physical ailments, is evident from the testimony presented by the
    doctor called by Sajadi. He did not meet any of the patients in arriving at a
    diagnosis; he simply reviewed the files Spectrum maintained. Much of what is
    in those files is self-reporting. Take one representative patient as an example.
    His file notes that “he has been having panic attacks which cause him to be
    unable to breathe” and that “he fear[s] he is dying”. It further states that his
    “anxiety [has] increased,” “[h]e has decreased sleep”, and he “is unable to cope
    with life stressors.” Finally, the file notes that the patient denies “suicidal or
    homicidal ideation,” “hallucinations,” or “delusions.”            In finding that the
    patient’s description of symptoms was all he needed to know, Sajadi’s own
    expert recognizes the crucial role that patient reporting plays in mental health
    evaluations.
    Notably, defendants point us to no other topics of testimony in which
    federal criminal law requires expert testimony to support a conviction. We
    decline to impose such a requirement here. Doing so would be at odds with the
    jury’s    considerable    discretion   to    weigh    evidence,     both   direct   and
    circumstantial, that may prove or disprove an element of the offense. See
    United States v. Patel, 485 F. App’x 702, 709 (5th Cir. 2012) (noting facts other
    than expert testimony which are probative of medical necessity).                    The
    government’s failure to call an expert may influence that weighing and is
    subject to attack during cross examination and closing argument. Indeed, in
    some cases it may even doom its case if the jury wants that expertise. And
    perhaps there are more technical medical diagnoses on which expert testimony
    would be needed to prove medical necessity. But the supposed conditions for
    which Spectrum was billing the government—severe depression and anxiety
    disorder, among others—are common ailments suffered and understood by
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    millions. The patients’ perceptions of their conditions, along with the other
    strong indicia of fraud involving failure to evaluate patients, paying patients,
    and falsifying medical charts, supports the jury’s finding of guilt.
    The bedrock principles just discussed concerning the jury’s role in
    weighing evidence also dispose of defendants’ other challenges to the fraud
    convictions.    To the extent they identify inconsistencies in the patients’
    testimony, that credibility determination is for the jury to make. As for the
    alleged absence of evidence showing fraudulent intent, the mindset needed for
    fraud and conspiracy can be, and usually is, proven by the circumstances.
    The circumstantial evidence of fraudulent intent in this case is similar
    to what courts have found sufficient in other health care fraud schemes. Sanjar
    and Sajadi had employees falsify patient files to comport with PHP
    requirements, feigned participation in patient evaluations, and, as the owners
    of Spectrum, reaped substantial profits from the scheme. See Moran, 778 F.3d
    at 961 (inferring knowledge from defendant’s managerial control, delegation of
    tasks implementing the fraud, and orders to falsify pertinent files); Willet, 751
    F.3d at 340; United States v. Tellison, 637 F. App’x 186, 187 (5th Cir. 2016);
    United States v. Bajoghli, 
    785 F.3d 957
    , 966–67 (4th Cir. 2015).          Hakimi
    oversaw the operation, tracking hours and authorizing deficient and overly
    crowded therapy sessions to meet the weekly twenty-hour PHP billing
    condition.     See Moran, 778 F.3d at 953, 961 (finding that an office
    administrator with like responsibilities had the requisite mindset). Main, for
    his part, carried out Sanjar and Sajadi’s commands to falsify medical charts,
    misrepresenting the symptoms and complaints made by patients. Njoku, 737
    F.3d at 63. He also saw patients being cycled between PHP and IOP services
    at regular intervals and did nothing after being confronted by a patient about
    a tardy kickback. See United States v. Umawa Oke Imo, 
    739 F.3d 226
    , 237 (5th
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    Cir. 2014) (inferring knowledge from proximity to unlawful acts and complicity
    in the continuation of that illegal activity).
    Sufficiency is a closer question for Nunn. The evidence showing her
    involvement in the kickback scheme is plentiful. But as discussed, a kickback
    violation can occur without any fraudulent billing. That said, Nunn did more
    than just pay and receive kickbacks. She graduated her payments to patients
    based on whether they were receiving PHP or IOP treatment and spent lots of
    time at Spectrum, where she could see the patients and provision of care (or
    lack thereof). This evidence, while thinner, is just enough given the deference
    we owe the jury. See United States v. Hunter, 628 F. App’x 904, 906 (5th Cir.
    2015) (holding that defendant’s sophisticated practice and constant presence
    at the health care facility perpetrating the fraud sufficed to show defendant
    was aware of the scheme to defraud Medicare).
    We uphold both the conspiracy to commit health care fraud and
    substantive health care fraud convictions.
    B.
    The Anti-Kickback Statute is violated when a defendant knowingly and
    willfully gives or receives a benefit for referring a party to a health care
    provider for services paid for by a federal health care program. Njoku, 737
    F.3d at 63; 42 U.S.C. § 1320a–7b(b). A conspiracy to violate that law requires
    an agreement to do so, knowing and voluntary participation in the conspiracy,
    and an overt act by one member of the conspiracy in furtherance of the
    unlawful goal. Id. at 63–64.
    Defendants convicted of the kickback offenses—all but Main, who faced
    only fraud charges—allege similar deficiencies in the evidence. They first
    invoke the safe harbor defense which we previously discussed in terms of the
    jury instruction. The statute has a safe harbor for payments to bona fide
    employees for their provision of otherwise covered services, like recruiting
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    patients. 42 U.S.C. §1320a–7b(b)(3)(B). Factors relevant to determining if an
    employment relationship is bona fide include the manner of payment, whether
    the work is part of the employer’s regular business, and the employer’s control
    over work hours. United States v. Robinson, 505 F. App’x 385, 387 (5th Cir.
    2013).   Nunn and Manney, while called Spectrum employees by certain
    witnesses, were paid per referral, sought referrals on their own, and kept no
    regular office hours.    From this evidence, a rational juror could have
    determined Nunn and Manney were not bona fide employees and thus the safe
    harbor did not protect the payments they received.
    Defendants next maintain that even if payments were made to
    nonemployees, the government again failed to show defendants had the
    requisite mindset. The evidence, however, supports the jury’s finding that
    defendants acted knowingly and willfully.        Sanjar, Sajadi, and Hakimi
    meticulously monitored patient referrals, tracking patients, their referrers,
    and the billings on their claims. Nunn and Manney received referral fees from
    Sanjar, Sajadi, and Hakimi equaling roughly ten percent of the money
    generated by their clients. Roberts testified that Manney expressly said he
    required payment for referrals and that Nunn cut Roberts out of the scheme
    and started dealing directly with Sanjar, Sajadi, and Hakimi. Nunn’s paying
    her patients in cash, delivered in envelopes, also shows awareness of the
    unlawful nature of the scheme. A rational juror could conclude that each
    defendant willfully paid or received kickbacks in violation of the Anti-Kickback
    Statute or conspired to do so. See Moran, 778 F.3d at 955–56, 962; United
    States v. Turner, 561 F. App’x 312, 318–19 (5th Cir. 2014). As with the fraud
    convictions, the evidence supports the convictions on the kickback counts.
    VII.
    Having affirmed defendants’ convictions, we now consider challenges to
    their punishment. None claim error with respect to the custodial sentences
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    the district court imposed, but Sanjar, Sajadi, and Main contest the propriety
    of the restitution and forfeiture orders. 12 This is also where the government
    brought a cross appeal; it maintains the district court lacks the power to offset
    forfeited funds against the restitution order.
    A.
    The court required Sanjar and Sajadi to pay restitution of $8,058,612.39
    and Main to pay $4,044,409.70. Most of these losses were to the Medicare Part
    A program, with smaller amounts attributable to Medicare Part B and
    Medicaid. 13 Defendants argue it was error to include in the restitution amount
    Medicare Part A and Medicaid losses given that the indictment only mentions
    Medicare Part B.
    When the offense of conviction involves a “scheme,” the restitution
    statute broadens the definition of victim to include “any person directly
    harmed by the defendant’s criminal conduct in the course of the scheme.”
    United States v. Maturin, 
    488 F.3d 657
    , 661 (5th Cir. 2007) (quoting 18 U.S.C.
    § 3663A(a)(2)). In such a situation, restitution may include losses suffered by
    victims not named in the indictment so long as they are victims of the scheme
    described therein. United States v. Pepper, 
    51 F.3d 469
    , 473 (5th Cir. 1995)
    Conspiracy to commit health care fraud requires a scheme. 
    18 U.S.C. § 1349
    . The scheme in which Sanjar, Sajadi, and Main participated caused
    losses to both Medicare programs as well as Medicaid. Indeed, the same
    12  Aside from the issues considered below, Nunn maintains that her cumulative $500
    special assessment violates the Double Jeopardy Clause, citing United States v. Kimbrough,
    
    69 F.3d 723
    , 728–29 (5th Cir. 1995). Kimbrough, however, deals with the issue of
    multiplicitous counts; it does not forbid a court from the standard practice of assessing the
    mandatory $100 assessment for each conviction as was done here. 
    Id. at 729
    .
    13 Medicaid assists low-income patients of all ages with medical expenses. Medicare,
    on the other hand, offers medical insurance to people who are either over the age of 65 or
    suffer a disability. Medicare is divided into various parts. Part A covers, among other things,
    hospital care, nursing home care, and home health services. Part B covers medical services,
    as well as ambulance services and durable medical equipment.
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    fraudulent claims resulted in payments from Medicare and Medicaid. It was
    not improper to include losses to all the government programs victimized as
    part of the scheme. See United States v. Dhafir, 342 F. App’x 702, 706 (2d Cir.
    2009) (allowing restitution to Medicaid even though indictment mentioned
    only Medicare fraud).
    Even if all the programs are victims, defendants argue the district court
    erred in including all of Spectrum’s PHP billings to those programs rather than
    crediting against the restitution award reimbursements for legitimate
    services. They rely on the principle that loss in a health care fraud case cannot
    include any amount the government would have paid in the absence of the
    crime. 14 United States v. Sharma, 
    703 F.3d 318
    , 324 (5th Cir. 2012).
    The government presented ample evidence, recited above, showing
    Spectrum’s entire PHP practice was fraudulent. Defendants, for their part,
    offered little to no concrete evidence to rebut that showing. They relied entirely
    on evidence premised on shaky grounds: expert testimony that Spectrum’s
    patient records indicate the patients qualified for PHP services.                     Such
    testimony, however, assumes the accuracy of the records (the expert never
    talked to the patients), and substantial evidence showed they were, in fact,
    falsified. The district court did not err in declining to apply a restitution credit.
    Finally, Main argues the amount of his forfeiture money judgment (the
    same amount ordered for his restitution) violates the Eighth Amendment
    because the money he received from the fraud—just his salary—was a fraction
    of the $4 million in illegal proceeds he was ordered to repay. Main did not raise
    14 Take for example a doctor billing Medicare for medically necessary drugs and drug-
    administration services when, in fact, patients self-administer drugs. The fraud, of course,
    is billing for administration services that are not provided. The drugs, however, are
    necessary and thus reimbursable regardless of the fraud. The restitution award in such a
    case can include only the amounts for the administration services not provided. See United
    States v. Klein, 
    543 F.3d 206
    , 215 (5th Cir. 2008).
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    this argument below, so he must show plain error, FED. R. CRIM. P. 52(b);
    United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 732 (1993) (explaining that to satisfy
    Rule 52(b) there must be “error” which is “plain” and “affects substantial
    rights,” and that even then the district court has discretion to correct the
    forfeited error, “unless the error seriously affects the fairness, integrity or
    public reputation of judicial proceedings”). 15
    That he cannot do. Forfeiture orders tied to the proceeds of a crime
    generally are not considered a fine subject to the Eighth Amendment. United
    States v. Betancourt, 
    422 F.3d 240
    , 250–51 (5th Cir. 2005). And it is not obvious
    that the amount of the order is grossly disproportional to the gravity of Main’s
    offense. He was part of a complex conspiracy to defraud Medicare and played
    a major role in sustaining the operation.                    We see no obvious Eighth
    Amendment problem with the forfeiture.
    B.
    The government’s sole issue on appeal concerns the district court’s
    decision to offset defendants’ restitution obligations with any amount collected
    pursuant to the forfeiture order. The district court thought it proper to do so
    because there was no private victim, meaning the government would receive
    both the restitution amount and any forfeited proceeds.                     The government
    contends this was error. We agree.
    Although we have yet to consider whether a district court may offset
    restitution orders with forfeited funds, our decision rejecting a defendant’s
    15  Main also contends the trial court plainly erred in not inquiring before jury
    deliberations, as required by FED. R. CRIM. P. 32.2(b)(5), whether defendants desired a jury
    determination on forfeiture. Because Main’s forfeiture amount was based on overwhelming
    trial evidence tying ill-gotten gains to health care fraud and the jury’s role is simply to decide
    whether sufficient evidence ties the proceeds to the offense, any error by the trial court did
    not affect Main’s substantial rights. See United States v. Valdez, 
    726 F.3d 684
    , 698–99 (5th
    Cir. 2013).
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    challenge to a district judge who refused to do so is instructive. United States
    v. Taylor, 
    582 F.3d 558
    , 566 (5th Cir. 2009). Taylor involved a conviction for
    fraud in obtaining disaster relief assistance. 
    Id. at 561
    . At sentencing, the
    district court refused to offset Taylor’s restitution obligation with his required
    forfeiture payments. 
    Id. at 566
    . We rejected Taylor’s argument that requiring
    both restitution and forfeiture is impermissible because the government is the
    recipient of both sums—the very reason motivating the district court’s decision
    here. 
    Id. at 566
    . We reasoned that although the government was the nominal
    recipient of the two, the Federal Emergency Management Agency was the
    victim and thus entitled to full restitution whereas the Department of Justice
    would seize forfeited funds. 
    Id.
     We also cited decisions from other circuits that
    reject similar challenges. 
    Id.
     at 567 (citing United States v. Alalade, 
    204 F.3d 536
    , 540 (4th Cir. 2000); United States v. Emerson, 
    128 F.3d 557
    , 566–67 (7th
    Cir. 1997); United States v. Leon–Delfis, 
    203 F.3d 103
    , 116 (1st Cir. 2000);
    United States v. Bright, 
    353 F.3d 1114
    , 1124 (9th Cir. 2004)).
    Although those circuits considered appeals in the same posture as Taylor
    (challenging a refusal to offset as opposed to a requirement to offset), their
    reasoning that a district court is without statutory authority to offset
    restitution with amounts forfeited to the government answers the question we
    face. Alalade, 
    204 F.3d at 540
     (noting that the plain language of the restitution
    statute does not grant the district court discretion to reduce the amount of
    restitution by the amount ordered to be forfeited); Emerson, 
    128 F.3d at
    566–
    67 (stating that the district court has the statutory authority to impose both
    restitution and forfeiture, and there is no legal authority to offset one another).
    Like Taylor, those cases rely on the language of the Mandatory Victim
    Restitution Act requiring courts to order full restitution without an exception
    for amounts forfeited. 
    582 F.3d at 567
    ; Alalade, 
    204 F.3d at 540
    ; Emerson, 
    128 F.3d at
    566–67; Bright, 
    353 F.3d at 1124
    ; Leon–Delfis, 
    203 F.3d at 116
    .
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    A criminal forfeiture statute also contemplates that it is for the Attorney
    General to decide whether to offset. See 
    21 U.S.C. § 853
    (i)(1) 16 (granting the
    Attorney General the authority to restore forfeited property to victims, which
    is the mechanism for using forfeited funds to offset restitution obligations).
    And restitution and forfeiture serve distinct purposes. Taylor, 
    582 F.3d at 566
    .
    Restitution is remedial in nature; its goal is to make the victim whole. 
    Id.
    Forfeiture is punitive; it seeks to disgorge any profits or property an offender
    obtains from illicit activity. 
    Id.
    As suggested by Taylor and stated more directly by other circuits, both
    restitution and criminal forfeiture are mandatory features of criminal
    sentencing that a district court does not have authority to offset. We have
    difficulty seeing why amounts the Department of Justice collects through
    forfeiture should not be transferred to the victim agency. And that appears to
    be DOJ policy. UNITED STATES DEP’T OF JUSTICE, ASSET FORFEITURE POLICY
    MANUAL, § 12E.2 (2016) (explaining that “[w]hen a defendant lacks the
    resources to make full restitution, Department of Justice . . . policy is to collect
    and marshall assets for the benefit of victims using available means [that
    include] turn[ing] over ‘liquid assets’ . . . to the clerk of court to be applied to
    restitution” and the restoration process for forfeited assets); id. § 12A.1 (noting
    that federal agencies can qualify as a victim under the regulations governing
    forfeiture). But Congress left it to the executive branch to decide whether to
    follow through on that sensible policy.
    *     *      *
    We therefore MODIFY the restitution and forfeiture orders to eliminate
    the offset. The judgment is AFFIRMED in all other respects.
    16 This statute applies to forfeiture for drug convictions, but its procedures are
    incorporated into the general criminal forfeiture statute. 
    18 U.S.C. § 982
    (b)(1).
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