United States v. Jose Escalante-Reyes ( 2012 )


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    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    FILED
    No. 11-40632                        July 25, 2012
    Lyle W. Cayce
    Clerk
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff – Appellee
    v.
    JOSE MIGUEL ESCALANTE-REYES,
    Defendant – Appellant
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Texas
    Before JONES, Chief Judge, and KING, JOLLY, DAVIS, SMITH, GARZA,
    STEWART, DENNIS, CLEMENT, PRADO, OWEN, ELROD, SOUTHWICK,
    HAYNES, GRAVES, and HIGGINSON, Circuit Judges.
    HAYNES, Circuit Judge, joined by JOLLY, DAVIS, STEWART, DENNIS,
    PRADO, ELROD, SOUTHWICK, GRAVES, and HIGGINSON, Circuit Judges:
    In this case we answer the following question: whether, when the law at
    the time of trial or plea is unsettled, but becomes clear1 while the case is pending
    on appeal, review for the second prong of the “plain error” test properly considers
    the law as it stood during the district court proceedings (“time of trial”) or at the
    1
    Importantly, we address here only the narrow question of matters unsettled at the
    time of trial which are settled or clarified by the time of (not in) the appellate decision in
    question.
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    time of the appellate court’s decision (“time of appeal”). We join the majority of
    other circuits in answering this question as follows: “time of appeal.”
    A large majority of us concur that this case presents this question
    squarely, though perhaps not perfectly. Recognizing the intra- and inter-circuit
    split on this question, see United States v. Broussard, 
    669 F.3d 537
    , 554 (5th Cir.
    2012), petition for reh’g filed, we determined to hear this case2 en banc in the
    first instance to resolve the issue. We turn, then, to the explanation for our
    decision.
    I. Analysis of the En Banc Question
    A. The Text of the Rule
    We start with the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. Rule 51(b) –
    sometimes called the “contemporaneous objection rule” – advises that a party
    “may preserve a claim of error by informing the court” at the time of the action
    or ruling.     FED. R. CRIM. P. 51(b).            We reaffirm the importance of the
    contemporaneous objection rule in the orderly process of trial court matters. But
    the rules do not make the absence of a contemporaneous objection fatal to the
    party’s efforts to correct an error on appeal. The very next rule states: “A plain
    error that affects substantial rights may be considered even though it was not
    brought to the court’s attention.” FED. R. CRIM. P. 52(b). As with any statutory
    or rule analysis, we start with the text of the rule.
    Unfortunately, the rule itself gives little assistance as to the question of
    timing; the first clause speaks to the present: “that affects,” while the last clause
    2
    Because we first address this legal question, we will provide the facts necessary for
    the determination of the particular case further in the opinion. By way of background, we note
    that the claimed “plain error” is considering Escalante-Reyes’s need for anger management
    courses in prison in determining the length of his sentence. After the sentencing hearing in
    this case, the Supreme Court decided Tapia v. United States, 
    131 S. Ct. 2382
    (2011), which
    cleared any confusion over whether rehabilitation or correction can be considered in deciding
    whether to sentence a defendant to prison and for how long.
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    uses the past tense of “was.”3 We conclude that the term “was” does not answer
    the timing question. Instead, read most naturally, it is simply referring to the
    fact that the lack of a contemporaneous objection occurred in the past, as it
    necessarily would by the time an appellate court would receive the case. We
    cannot read into this use of the past tense a requirement that the error be
    “plain” at the time of trial. The Government also argues that by using the
    pronoun “it” in the second clause, the rule is referring to “plain error” in the
    antecedent clause and means that the error had to be plain at the time of trial.
    We conclude that a more natural reading of the rule is that “it” refers back to the
    noun it replaces – “error” – and that the term “it” encompasses the error now
    under consideration without addressing when it was plain.
    B. Supreme Court Precedents
    We turn then to Supreme Court precedent. The Supreme Court has
    identified four requirements for reversing a trial court based upon plain error
    review: (1) “there must be an error or defect—some sort of [d]eviation from a
    legal rule—that has not been intentionally relinquished or abandoned”; (2) “the
    legal error must be clear or obvious, rather than subject to reasonable dispute”;
    (3) “the error must have affected the appellant’s substantial rights”; and (4) “if
    the above three prongs are satisfied, the court of appeals has the discretion to
    remedy the error—discretion which ought to be exercised only if the error
    seriously affect[s] the fairness, integrity or public reputation of judicial
    proceedings.” Puckett v. United States, 
    556 U.S. 129
    , 135 (2009) (citation and
    internal quotation marks omitted and alterations in original).
    3
    Indeed, if the text of Rule 52(b) was dispositive on the timing issue, the Supreme
    Court likely would have relied on the Rule’s text in Johnson v. United States, 
    520 U.S. 461
    (1997). In that case, which is discussed in greater detail below, the Court relied on a policy
    consideration—not the Rule’s text—in deciding the timing of plain error when the law at the
    time of trial was settled but contrary to the law at the time of appeal. 
    Id. at 467-68. 3
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    Though it has had opportunities to do so, the Supreme Court has not
    spoken directly to the timing issue when the law is unsettled at the time of trial
    but becomes clear by the time of appeal. In United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    (1993), the Supreme Court noted that “plain” is “synonymous with ‘clear’ or,
    equivalently, ‘obvious.’” 
    Id. at 734. However,
    the Court specified that it “need
    not consider the special case where the error was unclear at the time of trial but
    becomes clear on appeal because the applicable law has been clarified. At a
    minimum, a court of appeals cannot correct an error pursuant to Rule 52(b)
    unless the error is clear under current law.” 
    Id. (emphasis added). Approximately
    four years after Olano, the Supreme Court decided
    Johnson, in which it held that “where the law at the time of trial was settled and
    clearly contrary to the law at the time of appeal[,] it is enough that an error be
    ‘plain’ at the time of appellate 
    consideration.” 520 U.S. at 468
    . The Court
    reasoned that it would be futile for a lawyer to object to an “error” that clearly
    was not an error under the law as it existed at that time. 
    Id. at 467-68. If
    objections were required to preserve such an error, counsel would have to make
    “a long and virtually useless laundry list of objections to rulings that were
    plainly supported by existing precedent.” 
    Id. at 468. Both
    Olano and Johnson
    left open the question of when the “plainness” of an error would be evaluated in
    a situation where the law was unsettled at the time of trial, but was clear at the
    time of appeal. If the Supreme Court believed this issue to be determined, it
    would have said so in one of these cases. It did not.
    C. Circuit Precedents
    Thus, we turn to our own precedents and those of our sister circuits. As
    well-stated in Broussard, our own precedents do not speak with one voice.
    Compare 
    Broussard, 669 F.3d at 554-55
    (concluding that where an error is
    unclear at the time of trial but clear on appeal, the court should apply the law
    at the time of appeal), with United States v. Henderson, 
    646 F.3d 223
    , 225 (5th
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    Cir. 2011), (addressing the same issue and stating that the law should be
    evaluated at the time of trial), cert. granted, 
    2012 U.S. LEXIS 4687
    (U.S. June
    25, 2012) (No. 11-9307) . The earliest of our cases to interpret Olano held that
    plain error is to be evaluated at the time of appeal. See United States v.
    Knowles, 
    29 F.3d 947
    , 951 (5th Cir. 1994) (“It is of no consequence that [the
    appellate case that clarified the law] was decided after the proceedings in the
    district court concluded. Since this case is on direct appeal, newly announced
    rules apply.” (citing Griffith v. Kentucky, 
    479 U.S. 314
    , 328 (1987)).4 Broussard
    resolved the issue by following Knowles, as it is the earlier opinion on this issue.
    
    Broussard, 669 F.3d at 554-55
    ; see also United States v. Hudson, No. 10-11191,
    
    2012 U.S. App. LEXIS 367
    , at *3-4 (5th Cir. Jan. 6, 2012) (per curiam)
    (unpublished). Of course, in this en banc case, we are in a position to harmonize
    our prior precedents and speak with one voice.
    4
    The dissenting opinion filed by Judge Smith argues that the Supreme Court’s decision
    in Griffith—which held that “a new rule for the conduct of criminal prosecutions is to be
    applied retroactively to all cases, state or federal, pending on direct review or not yet final . .
    
    .,” 479 U.S. at 328—counsels
    in favor of evaluating the error at the time of trial. See Smith
    Dissenting Op. at 6-8. However, in Johnson, the Supreme Court applied Griffith to the first
    prong of plain error analysis, not the second prong. See 
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 467
    (“Because
    petitioner is still on direct review, Griffith requires that we apply [United States v. Gaudin, 
    515 U.S. 506
    (1995)] retroactively. Accordingly, under Gaudin there was ‘error,’ and the first
    prong of Olano is satisfied.”). By applying Griffith’s retroactivity principle to the first prong
    and not the second, the Court implies that Griffith is not relevant to the issue of when plain
    error should be evaluated. Further, in a Fourth Circuit opinion that supported a time of trial
    rule, the court reached a similar conclusion, noting that “Griffith’s holding that a defendant
    whose direct appeal is pending receives the benefit of a new rule for purposes of determining
    whether the district court erred, bears not at all on the second requirement of Olano, that the
    error be ‘plain.’” United States v. David, 
    83 F.3d 638
    , 643 n.6 (4th Cir. 1996).
    Additionally, even if Griffith’s retroactivity principle does apply to the second prong,
    several appellate courts have reached the opposite conclusion from that of this dissenting
    opinion; specifically, they have held that Griffith counsels in favor of finding plain error at the
    time of appeal. See, e.g., United States v. Retos, 
    25 F.3d 1220
    , 1230 (3d Cir. 1994) (discussing
    Griffith’s retroactivity principle in choosing to apply the time of appeal rule); United States v.
    Baumgardner, 
    85 F.3d 1305
    , 1309 (8th Cir. 1996) (same). Thus, the argument that Griffith
    counsels in favor of adopting the time of trial rule is not persuasive.
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    Our sister circuits also are not uniform, but the vast majority have either
    implicitly or explicitly adopted the “time of appeal” rationale. The Ninth and
    District of Columbia Circuits are the only circuits squarely holding that if the
    law is unclear at the time of trial and later becomes clear, the error is evaluated
    based on the law as it existed at the time of trial. See, e.g., United States v.
    Mouling, 
    557 F.3d 658
    , 664 (D.C. Cir. 2009) (“We therefore hold that where, as
    here, the law was unsettled at the time of trial but became settled by the time
    of appeal, the general rule applies, and we assess error as of the time of trial.”);
    United States v. Turman, 
    122 F.3d 1167
    , 1170 (9th Cir. 1997) (“When the state
    of the law is unclear at trial and only becomes clear as a result of later authority,
    the district court’s error is perforce not plain; we expect district judges to be
    knowledgeable, not clairvoyant.”).
    In contrast, the First, Second, Tenth, and Eleventh Circuits have explicitly
    held that the plainness of error is evaluated at the time of appellate review when
    the law is unsettled at the time of trial but becomes clear by the time of appeal.
    See, e.g., United States v. Cordery, 
    656 F.3d 1103
    , 1106-07 (10th Cir. 2011)
    (adopting the “blanket rule” that plain error is established at the time of appeal,
    regardless of whether the error was “plain or obvious at the time of sentencing”
    or trial); United States v. Garcia, 
    587 F.3d 509
    , 520 (2d Cir. 2009) (concluding
    that “[w]hether an error is ‘plain’ is determined by reference to the law as of the
    time of appeal” in a case where the law was unclear at the time of sentencing but
    later became clear (internal citation and quotation marks omitted)); United
    States v. Ziskind, 
    491 F.3d 10
    , 14 (1st Cir. 2007) (citing Johnson for the
    proposition “that error is plain if the law is clear at the time of direct appellate
    review, even though governing law was unclear at time of trial”); United States
    v. Underwood, 
    446 F.3d 1340
    , 1343 (11th Cir. 2006) (holding that “even though
    the error was not plain at the time of sentencing, the subsequent issuance of [a
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    Supreme Court opinion] establishes that the error is plain at the time of
    appellate consideration”).
    Additionally, the Third, Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth Circuits state that
    they would evaluate the plainness of error at the time of appeal, although these
    circuits have not expressly decided the issue of whether this principle applies
    when the error is unclear at the time of trial. See United States v. Crosgrove,
    
    637 F.3d 646
    , 656-57 (6th Cir. 2011) (“However, the requirement that the error
    be plain means plain under current law. . . . For plain error review, current law
    is the law as it exists at the time of review.” (internal citation and quotation
    marks omitted)); United States v. Baumgardner, 
    85 F.3d 1305
    , 1308 (8th Cir.
    1996) (holding that “the plain error prong of the Olano standard should be
    determined in accordance with the law at the time of appeal”); United States v.
    Ross, 
    77 F.3d 1525
    , 1539 (7th Cir. 1996) (“[W]e now hold that for purposes of
    Rule 52(b), a ‘plain’ error is one that is clear and uncontroverted at the time of
    appeal.”); United States v. Retos, 
    25 F.3d 1220
    , 1230 (3d Cir. 1994) (holding that
    “inasmuch as the district court’s [ruling] was clearly and obviously erroneous
    under current law, we hold that it constituted ‘plain’ error”).5
    D.     Our Decision
    We conclude that United States v. Farrell, 
    672 F.3d 27
    (1st Cir. 2012)
    presents the better-reasoned view. As Farrell suggests, the purpose of plain
    error review in the first place is so that justice may be done. See 
    id. at 36-37. The
    contemporaneous objection rule is, in part, intended to prevent lawyers from
    deliberately withholding an objection in an effort to gain another “bite at the
    apple” on appeal in the event that they are unsatisfied with the court’s ruling.
    5
    The Fourth Circuit has issued inconsistent rulings on this question. Compare 
    David, 83 F.3d at 645
    (judging the plainness of error at the time of trial), with United States v.
    Maxwell, 
    285 F.3d 336
    , 342 (4th Cir. 2002) (“[T]he error need not be plain at the time the
    district court erred as long as the error is plain at the time of appellate consideration.”).
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    See 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 134
    . But the plain error rule recognizes that not all
    failures to object are strategic.6 Indeed, some (maybe most) of the time, the
    failure to object is the product of inadvertence, ignorance, or lack of time to
    reflect. The four-pronged Puckett test strikes the balance between preventing
    the kind of “second bite at the apple” strategic decisions described above and
    avoiding the loss of rights due to counsel’s (or a party’s) error by making plain
    error review much more stringent and difficult than the standard of review that
    would otherwise apply (sometimes de novo and sometimes clear error or abuse
    of discretion). See 
    id. at 135 (noting
    that Rule 52(b) strikes a “careful balance
    . . . between judicial efficiency and the redress of injustice”).
    Further, in the narrow situation we face here, it is unlikely that we would
    face a deliberate strategic decision by counsel, since by waiting to object, the
    party asserting the error would be taking a risk that the appellate court would
    not rule in its favor on the unsettled issue. Cf. 
    Ross, 77 F.3d at 1539
    (noting that
    “[f]orfeiture . . . prevents defendants from strategically withholding objections
    in order to assert them on appeal and obtain a new trial,” but concluding that
    plain error review allows “the rule of forfeiture [to] bend slightly if necessary to
    prevent a grave injustice” and adopting the time of appeal rule). In the vast
    6
    The dissenting opinions authored by Judges Smith and Garza argue that we should
    focus on the judge’s and prosecutor’s role—rather than the defense attorney’s role—in guarding
    against plain error, citing United States v. Frady, 
    456 U.S. 152
    (1982), for the proposition that
    “[b]y [Rule 52’s] terms, recourse may be had to the Rule only on appeal from a trial infected
    with error so ‘plain’ the trial judge and prosecutor were derelict in countenancing it, even
    absent the defendant’s timely assistance in detecting it.” 
    Id. at 163. The
    dissenting opinion
    authored by Judge Smith states that “the definition [of plain error] focuses on the judge and
    prosecutor rather than on defense counsel.” Smith Dissenting Op. at 3. The dissenting opinion
    authored by Judge Garza also cites Frady for a similar proposition. Garza Dissenting Op. at
    5. However, the Supreme Court has since decided Johnson, which held that an error may be
    “plain” even when at the time of trial, the law was contrary to the law at the time of appeal.
    See 
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 468
    . In Johnson, the error was not “plain” to the judge or the
    prosecutor at the time of trial, but the Supreme Court nonetheless found that the error should
    be evaluated at the time of appeal. If the Supreme Court felt that it was bound by Frady’s
    “definition” of plain error (i.e., that the error must be clear to the judge and prosecutor), it
    would not have decided Johnson as it did.
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    majority of plain error cases, there will be no intervening Supreme Court
    decision, meaning that establishing a “time of appeal” rule would not
    significantly alter trial counsel’s incentive to object. Counsel necessarily would
    not have a crystal ball to know that the Supreme Court would favorably decide
    a case in the interim. This is different from a case where a party hides an error
    that it knows would mandate reversal on appeal; that is not the situation we
    address here.7
    “[T]he focus of plain error review should be ‘whether the severity of the
    error’s harm demands reversal,’ and not ‘whether the district court’s action . . .
    deserves rebuke.’” 
    Farrell, 672 F.3d at 36
    (quoting 
    Ross, 77 F.3d at 1539
    -40).
    “The plain error rule is protective; it recognizes that in a criminal case, where
    a defendant’s8 substantial personal rights are at stake, the rule of forfeiture
    should bend slightly if necessary to prevent a grave injustice.” 
    Ross, 77 F.3d at 1539
    ; see also United States v. Young, 
    470 U.S. 1
    , 15 (1985) (“The plain-error
    doctrine of Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 52(b) tempers the blow of a rigid
    application of the contemporaneous-objection requirement.” (footnote omitted)).
    Applying a “time of appeal” test also is more practical. Instead of having
    to try to go back in time and determine what was “clear” or “unclear” at the time
    of trial and potentially applying law we now know to be incorrect, we can simply
    apply the law as it is and determine whether the error is plain. This approach
    7
    Indeed, even if the counsel were deliberately withholding an objection, we all agree
    that plain error review would be available for an error “clear” at the time of that deliberate
    decision, unless counsel announced something that amounted to a waiver. Thus, an
    examination of the motivations of counsel – a difficult task in and of itself – is not part of the
    plain error review analysis.
    8
    Although most cases applying the plain error review standard involve errors alleged
    to have harmed criminal defendants, the plain error rule is available to the Government as
    well. United States v. Willingham, 
    497 F.3d 541
    , 544, 546 (5th Cir. 2007) (concluding that the
    Government should prevail on its sentencing appeal applying a plain error standard of review
    to the Government’s unpreserved claim of error). Thus, the rule we announce in this opinion
    is not one-sided and will serve to promote justice under the law for both the Government and
    the defendant in these circumstances.
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    also allows the “reviewing court to avoid the elusive and potentially onerous
    case-by-case determination of whether the law was ‘settled’ or ‘unsettled’ at the
    time of trial.” 
    Farrell, 672 F.3d at 37
    .
    Of course, determining that the error is plain is by no means the end. The
    third and fourth prong of Puckett continue to be stringent requirements that
    encourage counsel to make contemporaneous objections and avoid the strictures
    of those prongs. See, e.g., United States v. Marcus, 
    130 S. Ct. 2159
    , 2164 (2010)
    (noting that a court of appeals may only correct an error that was not objected
    to in the trial court if the four elements of the plain error test are met). We
    conclude, therefore, that where the law is unsettled at the time of trial but
    settled by the time of appeal, the “plainness” of the error should be judged by the
    law at the time of appeal.
    II. Application to this Case
    Turning to the facts of this case, Escalante-Reyes was convicted of illegal
    re-entry under 8 U.S.C. § 1326. He contends that the district court erred in
    considering his need for anger management courses in determining the length
    of his sentence. During the sentencing hearing, the judge looked through
    Escalante-Reyes’s file and noted instances of fighting in his past, stating: “Well
    there’s a temper and anger problem here, too. . . . So there’s a problem there.
    And it seems to me that that’s what we have to get under control. And that’s got
    to be the basis for what good prison will do for this Defendant.” Shortly
    thereafter, the district court announced its sentence, which included a
    recommendation for anger management courses while in prison.                  The
    defendant’s attorney objected that the district court did not adequately explain
    its reasons for the length of the sentence. In responding, the district court
    mentioned only two things: Escalante-Reyes’s quick return to the United States
    and that “[h]e has a problem with his anger management. He has things that
    need to be addressed.”
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    Under Tapia, this determination was error. 
    See 131 S. Ct. at 2393
    (holding that a district court “may not impose or lengthen a prison sentence to
    enable an offender to complete a treatment program or otherwise to promote
    rehabilitation”). Given our ruling on the “timing of plain error,” the error was
    plain.
    Before we address the third and fourth prongs of plain error, it is
    important to note that we did not take this case en banc to address how the third
    and fourth prongs of plain error review should be applied in sentencing appeals.
    We continue to adhere to our prior precedent with respect to the third and fourth
    prongs of plain error review. Reversal for plain error is necessarily a fact-
    specific inquiry and, as we have previously noted, a finding that there was an
    error that was plain will not automatically lead to reversal. See, e.g., United
    States v. Davis, 
    602 F.3d 643
    , 648, 650 (5th Cir. 2010) (concluding that although
    there was an error that was plain, reversal was not warranted because the error
    was “not the sort that we should, on plain error review, exercise our discretion
    to remedy”); United States v. Mondragon-Santiago, 
    564 F.3d 357
    , 364-65 (5th
    Cir. 2009) (finding that although the defendant met the first two prongs of plain
    error, he failed to show that the error affected his substantial rights).
    We now turn to the task of assessing the third prong of plain
    error—whether the error affected Escalante-Reyes’s substantial rights. “To
    affect the defendant’s substantial rights, the defendant must demonstrate that
    the error affected the outcome of the district court proceedings.” 
    Broussard, 669 F.3d at 553
    . In the context of sentencing, we ask “whether the error increased
    the term of a sentence, such that there is a reasonable probability of a lower
    sentence on remand.” United States v. Garcia-Quintanilla, 
    574 F.3d 295
    , 304
    (5th Cir. 2009).
    For example, in Garcia-Quintanilla, we held that a district court’s
    imposition of a sentence that was greater than the Guidelines range based on
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    the view that the court could later suspend the sentence after it began—which
    we determined to be an error that was “plain”—affected the defendant’s
    substantial rights because “the possibility of suspension was an essential aspect
    of this sentence.” 
    Id. We held that
    “[b]ecause the possibility of suspension was
    so central to the sentence that [the defendant] received, we cannot confidently
    say that the district court would have imposed the same sentence” absent the
    error. 
    Id. The facts of
    this case are similar to those in Garcia-Quintanilla in that
    here, the need for anger management treatment was such a central part of the
    district court’s explanation of Escalante-Reyes’s sentence that “we cannot
    confidently say that the district court would have imposed the same sentence”
    without it. 
    Id. The district court
    clearly stated that Escalante-Reyes had a
    problem with anger “[a]nd that’s got to be the basis for what good prison will do
    for this Defendant.”
    In a conclusory fashion, the Government argues that the district court was
    “convinced” it had given the right sentence. Implicitly, then, the Government is
    arguing that the district court would have given the same sentence regardless
    of the Tapia error.    For his part, Escalante-Reyes argues that there is a
    reasonable probability his sentence would have been lower. He notes that the
    district court referred twice to the need to get Escalante-Reyes’s anger under
    control and the efficacy of prison to do so. In a relatively short sentencing
    hearing, the anger management issue loomed large.
    While the district court gave a slightly-below Guidelines sentence, the
    circumstances show a probability that the court’s mercy was, as Escalante-Reyes
    noted, “tempered” by the desire to have him receive anger management training.
    The recommended Guidelines range was 63-78 months, and the district court
    sentenced Escalante-Reyes to 60 months. Escalante-Reyes’s counsel immediately
    objected to the sentence, arguing that it was “greater than necessary to satisfy
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    the factors under 3553(a).” In response, the district court reiterated that
    Escalante-Reyes “has a problem with his anger management” and that “[h]e has
    things that need to be addressed.”       We conclude that the error affected
    substantial rights because the district court’s repeated emphasis on the need for
    anger management treatment in prison was sufficient to undermine our
    confidence that the district court would have imposed the same sentence absent
    the error. See 
    Garcia-Quintanilla, 574 F.3d at 303-04
    .
    The fourth prong of plain error asks whether the error affects “the
    fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings” such that the
    appellate court should exercise its discretion to correct the error. See 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    (internal citation and quotation marks omitted). We respect the
    discretion a sentencing court has in making a decision on sentencing.
    Additionally, we do not view the fourth prong as automatic if the other three
    prongs are met. See 
    Davis, 602 F.3d at 650
    . However, the Supreme Court has
    instructed that “the discretion conferred by Rule 52(b) should be employed in
    those circumstances in which a miscarriage of justice would otherwise result.”
    
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 736
    (internal citation and quotation marks omitted).
    We continue to adhere to our precedent declining “to adopt a blanket rule
    that once prejudice is found under the [third plain error prong], the error
    invariably requires correction,” United States v. Reyna, 
    358 F.3d 344
    , 352 (5th
    Cir. 2004) (en banc). This case is unlike those where the other three prongs were
    met and still we refused to correct a defendant’s sentence. For example, in
    Reyna, we declined to exercise our discretion to correct an error related to the
    denial of a right to allocute at a defendant’s third sentencing hearing even
    though the error otherwise met the first three prongs of plain error. 
    Id. at 353. We
    found that the error did not affect the “fairness, integrity, or public
    reputation of judicial proceedings” because the defendant had been given the
    right to allocute at his original sentencing hearing and at a second sentencing
    13
    No. 11-40632
    proceeding that was held after he violated the terms of his supervised release.
    
    Id. at 352-53. The
    defendant was warned during the second proceeding that he
    would be sent back to prison for twelve months if he violated the terms of his
    supervised release again, and he was given an opportunity to allocute at that
    time; therefore, we concluded that “[o]n the particular facts of this case, we are
    satisfied that the district court’s error in failing to address Reyna and allow him
    to speak in mitigation of his sentence [at the third sentencing hearing] did not
    seriously affect the fairness, integrity or public reputation of his sentencing
    proceedings.” 
    Id. at 353. Unlike
    such a case (as well as other similar cases), we are not satisfied
    that there is other evidence in the record that shows that Escalante-Reyes’s
    sentence is “fair,” or that the “integrity or public reputation” of the judicial
    proceeding was protected despite the erroneous consideration of Escalante-
    Reyes’s need for anger management treatment in determining the length of
    sentence. In light of the sentencing record as a whole, we conclude that the
    district court’s repeated emphasis on Escalante-Reyes’s need for anger
    management treatment in prison affected the “fairness, integrity, or public
    reputation” of the sentencing proceeding. Given Congress’s express admonition
    that “imprisonment is not an appropriate means of promoting correction and
    rehabilitation,” 18 U.S.C. § 3582(a), and the Supreme Court’s recent analysis in
    Tapia, we conclude that we should exercise our discretion to recognize this error.
    Accordingly, Escalante-Reyes’s sentence is VACATED and the case is
    REMANDED for resentencing in accordance with this opinion. Because of our
    disposition of this issue, we do not reach the other issues he raised.
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    No. 11-40632
    JERRY E. SMITH, Circuit Judge, dissenting, joined by JONES, Chief Judge,
    and CLEMENT, Circuit Judge, and joined as to parts I.A, I.B, and I.D by
    GARZA, Circuit Judge:
    I respectfully dissent. For the first time ever, this court reverses a below-
    guideline sentence for alleged unfairness. And for at least the 181st time, it
    reverses a case on plain error, despite the Supreme Court’s admonition that such
    reversals should be “rare,” giving an en banc blessing to our rogue record of find-
    ing the fourth prong satisfied in over 70% of the reported cases.
    The Tapia error1 fails to meet both the second and fourth prongs of plain-
    error review. It fails the second prong, because plainness should be measured
    at the time of forfeiture in cases such as this, where the law is unsettled at the
    time of trial and becomes clear by the time of appeal. The error flunks the
    fourth prong, because it does not even come close to the standard of seriously
    affecting the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings. The
    error does not satisfy the plain-error standard, so we should uphold Escalante-
    Reyes’s sentence.
    I.
    Plainness of error should be measured at the time of forfeiture where the
    law was unclear at trial but becomes clear by the time of appeal. That interpre-
    tation is more in line with the purpose of “plainness” as indicated by the values
    and policies expressed by the Supreme Court. The majority’s notion to the
    contrarySSthat the purpose of plain-error review is to do justiceSSis an over-
    simplification and a red herring. It is an oversimplification, because the “justice”
    pursued by the plain-error standard is itself a balance between the goals of
    accuracy and efficiency. It is a red herring, because it lumps the purpose of all
    1
    Tapia v. United States, 
    131 S. Ct. 2382
    (2011).
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    No. 11-40632
    four elements of plain error together instead of focusing on the specific purpose
    of the “plainness” requirement.
    A.
    As the majority recognizes, the plain-error test has four prongs: (1) error;
    (2) that is plain; (3) that affects substantial rights; and (4) that seriously affects
    the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings. See Johnson
    v. United States, 
    520 U.S. 461
    , 466-67 (1997). The last two prongs are aimed
    specifically at avoiding the results that appear unjust to the appellate court, but
    all four prongs are required. Thus, the fact that the result seems unjust is one
    of the cumulative requirements to meet the plain-error standard; it is not the
    underlying inquiry upon which plain error expands. The relevant question is
    what, specifically, is the purpose of the plainness requirement in achieving this
    balance?
    The majority focuses on the need to give defense counsel the incentive to
    point out errors. Focusing solely on the lawyer’s incentives, however, ignores the
    broader role he plays in the proceedings. It falls to the defendant to notify the
    court and, especially, the prosecution of the need to develop the factual record
    further. See Puckett v. United States, 
    556 U.S. 129
    , 134 (2009). If defense coun-
    sel fails to point out that one of the prosecution’s legal theories rests on muddled
    law, the prosecution is less likely to develop the record for an alternate theory
    of conviction where the legal basis may be more sound. See Wainwright v. Sykes,
    
    433 U.S. 72
    , 89 (1977). In addition to reducing efficiencySSbecause further trial
    proceedings are required after appeal and on remandSSit reduces accuracy,
    because evidence becomes harder to produce as time moves on. The interests of
    accuracy and efficiency thus act in concert.
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    No. 11-40632
    Raising legal issues at trial is equally important irrespective of whether
    the law becomes clear on appeal.2 The problemSSthat the legal theory rests on
    muddled lawSSarises because the law is unclear at the time of trial, and it is
    independent of what happens by the time of appeal. Accordingly, the same mea-
    sure of plainnessSSthe law at the time of forfeitureSSshould apply in both cases.
    The Supreme Court’s definition sheds further light on the purpose of plain-
    ness. In United States v. Frady, 
    456 U.S. 152
    , 163 (1982), the Court defined it
    as “error so ‘plain’ the trial judge and prosecutor were derelict in countenancing
    it, even absent the defendant’s timely assistance in detecting it.” Thus, the defi-
    nition focuses on the judge and prosecutor rather than on defense counsel. This
    is not because the second prong is concerned about being unfair to the judge, as
    Escalante-Reyes claims; it is instead because the defense’s role in pointing out
    errors is redundant where the error is so obvious that the other actors should
    notice it. Where the prosecutor chooses to develop a factual record that supports
    only a “plainly” flawed theory of conviction, he is unlikely to have better evidence
    to put forward.
    Furthermore, this sort of negligence on behalf of the defense willSS
    perverselySStend to benefit the defendant. The prosecution bears a high burden
    of proof, so the inaccuracy caused by delay will disproportionately hurt its case.
    Nevertheless, the real problem here is reduced accuracy and efficiency on
    remand, even if defense attorneys are not intentionally being less diligent in the
    hope that the law might change.
    2
    It is especially important for the defense to raise errors where the law is murky,
    because the prosecutor and court are least likely to notice errors in those cases. See United
    States v. Turman, 
    122 F.3d 1167
    , 1170 (9th Cir. 1997) (“When the law is such that an experi-
    enced judge cannot be expected to detect the error on his own, that is precisely when it is most
    important for the parties to object.”).
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    No. 11-40632
    B.
    Focusing on the incentives of the defense attorney, the majority makes
    arguments that seem to be general criticisms of plain-error review rather than
    contentions regarding the timing of plainness. The majority urges that (1) the
    last two prongs of plain error provide ample incentive to point out errors at trial,
    and (2) it is difficult to afford an attorney the incentive to point out an error he
    has not noticed. Both of those arguments have some validity, but they prove too
    much: Neither is more valid where the law changes on appeal than where it
    remains cloudy on appeal. Thus, it would be difficult to use that reasoning to
    justify measuring plainness on appeal without throwing out the plainness
    requirement altogether.
    1.
    The majority argues that giving attorneys the incentive to object by mea-
    suring plainness at the time of forfeiture is unnecessary, because the last two
    prongs of plain-error provide ample motivation to raise issues at trial. It is true
    that the last two prongs, coupled with the plainness requirement, theoretically
    provide some additional incentive to raise issues at trial.3 Nevertheless, the last
    two prongs provide no more incentive to point out unclear law at the time of
    forfeiture where the law becomes clear on appeal. If the plainness requirement
    is justified where the law remains muddled on appealSSand no one argues that
    courts do not find the requirement justified in that caseSSthen why is the mar-
    ginal incentive it produces not justified when the law later becomes clear? A
    change in the law cannot retroactively alter incentives at trial.
    3
    One could easily disagree, however, that much work is done by the last two
    prongsSSat least in the Fifth Circuit Court of AppealsSSgiven the laxity and inattention with
    which they are often applied. See part II.A, infra.
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    No. 11-40632
    Contrast the instant case with Johnson v. United States, 
    520 U.S. 461
    , 468
    (1997): The Court ruled that plainness should be measured at the time of appeal
    whereSSbecause the law was obviously contrary to the defendant’s positionSSit
    would have been pointless for him to raise an issue at trial. Where the objection
    would be useless at trial, the defendant has little incentive to raise the error and
    cannot predict that the objection would have any value on appeal. The plainness
    requirement therefore adds no extra incentive to the defense to raise the error,
    nor does it give the prosecutor the incentive to develop an additional theory of
    conviction.
    Not only would plainness fail to further the goal of accuracy at trial, it
    would hinder the goal of efficiency. A “time-of-forfeiture rule” in that case would
    give the defense the incentive to raise a laundry list of frivolous objections in
    hope that the law changes on appeal. In contrast to the instant case, in situa-
    tions covered by Johnson the value of raising the objection at trial changes
    before appeal, so it follows that the measurement of plainness should change as
    well. Here, the defense should raise the objection where the law is muddled,
    regardless of whether it later becomes clear, so the measurement of plainness
    should remain the same.
    2.
    There is validity to the majority’s contention that many (maybe most) fail-
    ures to object at trial are the product of inadvertence rather than intentional
    withholding. Negligence is indeed harder to discourage than is wilfulness.4 But
    again, this focus by today’s majority is exclusively on defense counsel, ignores
    4
    Although negligence may be impossible to prevent entirely through incentives, plain-
    error review encourages litigators to recognize the importance of adequate trial preparation
    and vigilance in making timely objections. United States v. Chavez-Hernandez, 
    671 F.3d 494
    ,
    497 (5th Cir. 2012). Litigators are less likely to make mistakes if they are better prepared and
    more attentive at trial.
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    No. 11-40632
    the role of the prosecutor in developing the record, and is a criticism of plain-
    error review in general. The same inadvertence prevents attorneys in all plain-
    error cases from raising issues where the law is muddled. Negligence is not
    harder to dispel because the law later becomes plain before appeal. The negli-
    gence in not raising the error is equivalent regardless of what happens by the
    time of appeal.
    C.
    The retroactivity principles discussed in Griffith v. Kentucky, 
    479 U.S. 314
    (1987), also counsel in favor of the time-of-trial rule. Griffith held that changes
    in the law should always be applied retroactively for purposes of determining
    error on direct appeal. 
    Id. at 328. In
    other words, error is always to be mea-
    sured at the time of appeal.5 If we faithfully apply Griffith’s analysis to consider-
    ations involved in plainness, however, we must conclude that plainness should
    be measured at the time of forfeiture.
    Before Griffith announced the new rule that error is always to be deter-
    mined at the time of appeal in criminal cases on direct review, courts decided the
    retroactivity of error on a case-by-case basis. See 
    id. at 320-21. Courts
    examined
    the change in law and considered three factors to determine whether it applied
    to the case before them: (a) the purpose to be served by the new standards,
    (b) the extent of the reliance by law enforcement authorities on the old stan-
    dards, and (c) the effect on the administration of justice of a retroactive applica-
    tion of the new standards. Stovall v. Denno, 
    388 U.S. 293
    , 297 (1967). Over
    time, that balancing approach led to the emergence of a category of cases in
    5
    Griffith deals only with the timing of the measurement of error. It does not discuss
    plainness. The error at trial was properly objected to and preserved, so plain error was not a
    consideration. 
    Griffith, 479 U.S. at 317
    .
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    No. 11-40632
    which error was almost never determined retroactively: cases in which the new
    rule was a “clear break” with precedent. 
    Griffith, 479 U.S. at 324-26
    .
    Because of the last two retroactivity factors, error was generally not
    applied retroactively in the “clear break” category: When the law changed dras-
    tically, it disrupted the administration of justice, because law enforcement had
    relied on the old standards. United States v. Johnson, 
    457 U.S. 537
    , 549-50
    (1982). In other words, the practicalities of law enforcement were the main fac-
    tors that weighed against the retroactive application of error. Griffith then
    applied error retroactively to the “clear break” category, finding that the practi-
    calities of law enforcement were outweighed by two considerations: (a) Applying
    error retroactively is more consistent with the idea that courts interpret law
    rather than change it; and (b) applying error retroactively better comports with
    the principle that two similarly situated defendants should be treated the same.
    
    Griffith, 479 U.S. at 322-25
    . Neither of these two factors that weighed against
    the practicalities of law enforcement in Griffith does so in this case.
    First, measuring plainness at the time of forfeiture is not in tension with
    the idea that courts are not changing the law. Whether a ruling is in error turns
    on what the law is, whereas the plainness of an error turns on how clear the law
    is. United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 734 (1993). If a ruling is not an error
    on Monday and is an error on Tuesday, then the law must have changed. The
    situation is different with plainness. An error can be unclear on Monday and
    very plain on Tuesday without any change in the law. The plainness of the error
    changes because the law is clarified, and it is uncontroversial that courts are
    supposed to clarify the law. Therefore, the first consideration in Griffith is not
    implicated in our case.
    Second, the time-of-forfeiture rule is consistent with treating similarly
    situated defendants the same. As with plain error generally, the defendant has
    a higher burden on appeal, because he did not make the necessary objection at
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    No. 11-40632
    trial. In Griffith, the Court was troubled by the fact that the defendant had a
    higher burden because of a fortuitous event that he could not influence. The
    Court focused on the fact that the defendant would not have the beneficial rule
    of Batson6 just because he was sentenced three months after the defendant in
    that case. 
    Griffith, 479 U.S. at 327
    . Here, the relevant differenceSSas it always
    is where plain error review is implicatedSSis the action of the defendant’s
    lawyer. If that is not a relevant line to draw among defendants, then all
    procedural forfeiture rules fail to treat similarly-situated defendants the same.
    Thus, the two factors that weighed in favor of retroactivity in Griffith do
    not do so here. The interest in law enforcementSSthe need to establish an accur-
    ate factual recordSSdoes weigh against retroactivity, however. Therefore, the
    Griffith analysis suggests the time-of-forfeiture rule that the majority rejects.
    D.
    The majority contends that the time-of-forfeiture rule is more difficult to
    apply because the determination of whether the law was unclear at the time of
    trial may be elusive. This is untrue for two reasons: (1) the determination of
    whether law is unclear is not especially difficult, as demonstrated by courts
    familiar with making that inquiry in several other areas of law; and (2) the time-
    of-forfeiture rule will simplify the plain-error inquiry where the law was obvi-
    ously unclear at the time of trial.
    The majority overstates the difficulty in applying a time-of-forfeiture rule.
    Indeed, courts are required to make similar determinations in deciding other
    issues where the availability of relief turns on the state of the law at the time an
    error occurred.7 There is no reason to think a time-of-forfeiture rule would be
    6
    Batson v. Kentucky, 
    476 U.S. 79
    (1986).
    7
    See, e.g., Cullen v. Pinholster, 
    131 S. Ct. 1388
    , 1398 (2011) (stating that when
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    22
    No. 11-40632
    any more difficult than are those determinations that courts routinely make, nor
    is there any indication that the circuits already applying the time-of-forfeiture
    rule have found it impractical or difficult.
    Moreover, it may often be the case that the time-of-forfeiture rule renders
    plain-error review less onerous. In some cases, it is easier to determine that the
    second prong of the plain-error rule is not satisfied because the law was unset-
    tled at the time of the district court proceedings. In those circumstances, an
    appellate court is able to reject a forfeited claim without engaging in the fact-
    intensive inquiry usually required to determine whether the third and fourth
    prongs are met. Indeed, that is the case here. A determination that a Tapia
    error was not plain at the time of sentencing because the law was unsettled at
    that time is not difficult.8
    Furthermore, it is odd to justify the time-of-appeal rule on grounds of judi-
    cial efficiency, even if it saves time on appeal. By adopting that rule, the major-
    ity lowers the bar for plain-error review, which will undoubtably result in more
    remands and new trials. Even assuming that the rule saves appellate resources,
    7
    (...continued)
    applying 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d)(1), which provides that federal habeas corpus relief may not be
    granted to a state prisoner based on an error of law unless the error was contrary to or an
    unreasonable application of clearly established federal law, a court must refer to the law at
    “the time the state court renders its decision”); Bousley v. United States, 
    523 U.S. 613
    , 622-23
    (1998) (holding that on collateral review, a court examines the time the error occurred in
    determining how “novel” a rule is for purposes of providing cause for a procedural default);
    Teague v. Lane, 
    489 U.S. 288
    , 311-12 (1989) (plurality opinion) (providing that new constitu-
    tional rules of criminal procedure are generally not applicable to cases that became final before
    the new rules were announced, so courts apply prior law on collateral review); Harlow v.
    Fitzgerald, 
    457 U.S. 800
    , 818-19 (1982) (holding that public officials have immunity based on
    what law was clearly established at the time of their acts, even if the law has changed by the
    time of appeal).
    8
    See United States v. Henderson, 
    646 F.3d 223
    , 225 (5th Cir. 2011) (explaining in a few
    sentences that Tapia error was not plain at the time of sentencing), cert. granted, 2012 U.S.
    LEXIS 4687 (U.S. June 25, 2012) (No. 11-9307). Certiorari has been granted in Henderson,
    which squarely presents the timing issue that this en banc court now confronts.
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    No. 11-40632
    that savings will be more than counter-balanced by the need for new trials and
    resentencings.
    Accordingly, this court should hold that plainness is measured at the time
    of forfeiture where the law was unclear then. Because (1) Escalante-Reyes’s
    Tapia objection likely would have been fruitful had it been made at trial, and
    (2) the error was not so clear that the court or prosecution should have noticed
    it, the error does not meet the second prong of plain error review. The judgment
    of sentence should therefore be affirmed.
    II.
    Even if the error in this case satisfies the first three prongs of plain error,
    this court should not exercise its discretion to reverse under plain-error review,
    because the error does not “seriously affect the fairness, integrity or public repu-
    tation of judicial proceedings.” 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 732
    (internal quotation marks
    and alterations omitted). In addition to choosing, erroneously, the time-of-
    appeal rule, the majority perpetuates this court’s unseemly practice of being far
    more permissive on plain-error review than the Supreme Court and common
    sense allow.
    This court’s regrettable drift toward bypassing entirely the high burden
    of the fourth prong is aptly summarized in a recent opinion by Judge
    Higginbotham, joined by Judges Elrod and Haynes:
    Th[e] emphasis on the second prong of plain error analysis is
    particularly important given the development of this court’s case
    law on the third and fourth prongs of the plain error test in the sen-
    tencing context, where the court has been generous with remand,
    often finding that errors leading to substantial increases in sen-
    tences, even those errors not raised until appeal and thus subject to
    plain error review, merited remand, although we are not convinced
    that the case law on this point is settled or as categorical as lan-
    guage in some cases might make it seem . . . .
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    No. 11-40632
    Even if we were inclined, this is no occasion to offer metrics for
    the severity of an increase worked by decisions later found to have
    been error and such a departure as to summon our discretion to cor-
    rect an injustice. Not every error that increases a sentence need be
    corrected by a call upon plain error doctrine. It bears emphasis that
    all defendants’ appeals challenging a sentence rest on the practical
    premise that the sentence should be less. The doctrine of plain error
    serves powerful institutional interests, including securing the role
    of the United States District Court as the court of first instance, as
    opposed to a body charged to make recommendations to appellate
    courts. And even if an increase in a sentence be seen as inevitably
    “substantial” in one sense it does not inevitably affect the fairness,
    integrity, or public reputation of judicial process and proceedings.
    To conclude that not correcting the error claimed here casts doubt
    upon the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of the proceeding
    drains all content from the doctrine of plain error.
    United States v. Ellis, 
    564 F.3d 370
    , 378 (5th Cir. 2009) (footnote omitted).
    In regard to the third and fourth prongs, the majority’s error in the instant
    case is that it gives them short shrift, stating that “it is important to note that
    we did not take this case en banc to address how the third and fourth prongs of
    plain error review should be applied in sentencing appeals.” That is true only
    in part. Here, for the first time in decades and maybe for the first time ever, the
    court voted a case en banc without benefit of panel consideration.9 That action
    is well justified, because, as the majority explains, we need to take sides in the
    inter-circuit split on the timing issue in applying the second prong.
    But although the court has the discretion whether to take a case en banc,
    once we do so we have before us not just selected issues but the entire case. That
    is especially so in this rare circumstance, where there has been no panel treat-
    ment of any issue. The en banc court thus has the same responsibility to
    9
    See 28 U.S.C. § 46(c) (authorizing a “hearing or rehearing before the court in [sic] banc
    . . . ordered by a majority of the circuit judges of the circuit who are in regular active service)
    (emphasis added); FED. R. APP. P. 35(a)-(c); 5TH CIR. R. 35.6.
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    No. 11-40632
    address all four prongs that a panel would have, and the decision on the third
    and fourth prongs should not be taken lightly.
    The en banc majority punts, however, stating that “[w]e continue to adhere
    to our prior precedent with respect to the third and fourth prongs of plain error
    review.” The majority gives the third prong only five paragraphs, the fourth
    prong a scant three. That amounts to inadequate consideration of an important
    aspect of this case and leaves us with an unsupportable standard for applying
    especially the fourth prong, as I will explain. Moreover, the erroneous majority
    ruling on the fourth prong gives en banc validation to those panel opinions that
    take an approach to plain-error review that is “generous” and “permissive” and
    that fail to exact the requirement that an error seriously affect the fairness,
    integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings. See 
    Ellis, 564 F.3d at 378
    & n.44 (deploring the lax approach taken by this court on the fourth prong).
    A.
    The Supreme Court’s modern four-prong approach to plain-error review,
    based in Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 52(b), was first articulated in
    Olano, but the standard guiding appellate courts as to when to exercise discre-
    tion to overturn forfeited error finds its origins in United States v. Atkinson, 
    297 U.S. 157
    (1936). Since Atkinson, appellate courts have been allowed to exercise
    their discretion under Rule 52(b) if errors “seriously affect the fairness, integrity,
    or public reputation of judicial proceedings.” 
    Id. at 160. What
    is more, since Atkinson, the Supreme Court has emphasized that a
    court of appeals should overturn a district court on plain-error review only in
    “exceptional circumstances.” 
    Id. The circuits should
    correct only “particularly
    egregious errors,” and this power to correct should be “used sparingly.” United
    States v. Young, 
    470 U.S. 1
    , 15 (1985) (citing United States v. Frady, 
    456 U.S. 152
    , 163 & n.14 (1982)). This court has only a “limited” and “strictly circum-
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    No. 11-40632
    scribed” power to correct forfeited errors. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 735-36
    ; 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 134
    . Defendants should be granted relief under plain-error review only
    “rarely,” United States v. Dominguez Benitez, 
    542 U.S. 74
    , 83 n.9 (2004), because
    “[m]eeting all four prongs is difficult, as it should be,” 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted).
    Our sister circuits have appropriately echoed the Supreme Court’s restric-
    tive approach to plain-error review. In the First Circuit, “only the clearest and
    most serious of forfeited errors should be corrected on appellate review.” United
    States v. Padilla, 
    415 F.3d 211
    , 223-24 (1st Cir. 2005) (en banc) (citations omit-
    ted). Thus, “[t]he plain error doctrine concentrates on ‘blockbusters’ . . . . Under
    it, appellate courts will notice unpreserved errors only in the most egregious cir-
    cumstances.” United States v. Taylor, 
    54 F.3d 967
    , 973 (1st Cir. 1995). The Sec-
    ond Circuit requires those errors to be “so egregious and obvious as to make the
    trial judge and prosecutor derelict in permitting it, despite the defendant’s fail-
    ure to object.” United States v. Vasquez, 
    267 F.3d 79
    , 87 (2d Cir. 2001) (citations
    omitted). The Seventh Circuit requires a similar level of egregiousness. See
    United States v. Conley, 
    291 F.3d 464
    , 470 (7th Cir. 2002).
    The Fourth Circuit has stated that “[p]lain error review exists to correct
    only the most grievous of unnoticed errors.” United States v. Robinson, 
    627 F.3d 941
    , 956 (4th Cir. 2010). Similarly, the Eighth Circuit has held that the “final
    prong of plain-error review is formidable,” United States v. Poitra, 
    648 F.3d 884
    ,
    889 (8th Cir. 2011) (citations omitted), and the Tenth Circuit reverses only “par-
    ticularly egregious” errors “in those rare cases in which core notions of justice
    are offended,” United States v. Gonzalez-Huerta, 
    403 F.3d 727
    , 736, 739 (10th
    Cir. 2005) (en banc) (emphasis added).10
    10
    But see United States v. Tapia, 
    665 F.3d 1059
    , 1063 (9th Cir. 2011) (“We have regu-
    larly deemed the fourth prong of the plain error standard to have been satisfied where, as here,
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    In contrast to Supreme Court precedent, which has commanded that plain-
    error relief be granted “sparingly” under “rare” and “exceptional” circumstances
    for only “particularly egregious errors,” this court, as I have said, has at times
    described its approach to plain error review as “generous” and “permissive.”
    
    Ellis, 564 F.3d at 378
    & n.44. Although at other times the rhetoric of the Fifth
    Circuit has matched that of the Supreme Court,11 this court’s aggregated prac-
    tice testifies to the truth of Ellis’s observation: Since Olano was decided, we
    have reversed on plain error at least 180 times. See Appendix A. Where the
    fourth prong has been reached, we have found it satisfied in an astonishing 72%
    of the cases. 
    Id. Given the supposedly
    difficult nature of plain-error review,
    these numbers are disgraceful.
    Limiting relief under plain error to rare and exceptional circumstances is
    not without reason, even if we had the latitude to question the Supreme Court’s
    unequivocal pronouncements. We must always keep in mind that plain-error
    review “is not a run-of-the-mill remedy”12 but instead a limited exception to the
    contemporaneous-objection ruleSSa rule that serves important institutional
    interests. 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    . “No procedural principle is more familiar to
    (...continued)
    the sentencing court committed a legal error that may have increased the length of a defen-
    dant’s sentence.”); In re Sealed Case, 
    573 F.3d 844
    , 853 (D.C. Cir. 2009).
    11
    See, e.g., 
    Ellis, 564 F.3d at 378
    -79; United States v. Davis, 
    602 F.3d 643
    , 651 (5th Cir.
    2010); United States v. Seale, 
    600 F.3d 473
    , 490 (5th Cir. 2010); United States v. Duarte-
    Juarez, 
    441 F.3d 336
    , 340 (5th Cir. 2006) (“Even assuming that the district court’s remarks
    at sentencing would satisfy the third prong of the plain error test, they are not sufficient to sat-
    isfy the even more exacting test required to show the presence of extraordinary circumstances,
    which requires appellant to show a possibility of injustice so grave as to warrant disregard of
    usual procedural rules.”) (citations and internal quotation marks omitted); United States v.
    John, 
    597 F.3d 263
    , 290 (5th Cir. 2010) (Smith, J., dissenting) (“[In the Fifth Circuit,] instead
    of being narrow, rare, and exceptional, the granting of plain-error relief in sentencing appeals
    has become commonplace.”).
    12
    
    Frady, 456 U.S. at 163
    n.14 (quoting United States v. Gerald, 
    624 F.2d 1291
    , 1299
    (5th Cir. 1980)).
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    this Court than that a constitutional right, or a right of any other sort, may be
    forfeited . . . by the failure to make timely assertion of the right before a tribunal
    having jurisdiction to determine it.” 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 731
    (quoting Yakus v.
    United States, 
    321 U.S. 414
    , 444 (1944)) (internal quotation marks omitted). This
    rule ensures full development of the record, prevents strategic timing of objec-
    tions meant to secure a “second bite at the apple,” gives incentives for the dili-
    gence and zealousness of trial counsel and the defendant, minimizes the “sand-
    bagging” of trial courts, promotes judicial economy by reducing appeals and
    remand, and safeguards the district court’s role as the court of first instance in
    our federal system. See 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 134
    , 140; 
    John, 597 F.3d at 290-92
    (Smith, J., dissenting).
    Our expansive and permissive application of plain-error review under-
    mines each of these values and “drains all content from the doctrine of plain
    error.” 
    Ellis, 564 F.3d at 379
    . “Any unwarranted extension of this exacting
    definition of plain error would skew the Rule’s careful balancing of our need to
    encourage all trial participants to seek a fair and accurate trial the first time
    around against our insistence that obvious injustice be promptly redressed.”
    
    Young, 470 U.S. at 15
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted). In
    almost every case in which this court improperly grants relief to forfeited objec-
    tions, we not only erroneously charge the trial court with seriously affecting the
    fairness, integrity, and public reputation of judicial proceedings, we ourselves
    “encourage[] litigants to abuse the judicial process and bestir[] the public to ridi-
    cule it.” Johnson v. United States, 
    520 U.S. 461
    , 470; see also 
    Poitra, 648 F.3d at 892
    . When the court falsely accuses the district court of being a blackened
    kettle, it itself becomes a pot.
    More importantly, given our role as an intermediate appellate court, we
    must adhere to a stringent application of plain-error review, because it is
    required by the plain language of the standard announced by the Supreme
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    No. 11-40632
    Court. We may exercise our discretion to reverse on plain-error review only
    where the error seriously affects the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of
    judicial proceedings. Of course, any and every error affects, to some degree, the
    fairness and integrity of our judicial system. But we are to reverse only those
    that seriously do so.13 Plain errors are those that are “exceptional,” 
    Atkinson, 297 U.S. at 160
    , “particularly egregious,” and “undermine the fundamental fair-
    ness” of our system, 
    Young, 470 U.S. at 15
    -16. An error that warrants reversal
    despite the contemporaneous-objection rule is one that, if left uncorrected, would
    shock the conscience of the common man, serve as a powerful indictment against
    our system of justice, or seriously call into question the competence or integrity
    of the district judge.
    In many cases, including this one, our court fails to uphold that high stan-
    dard. This is nowhere more true than in the context of sentencing. Since Olano,
    we have reversed at least 146 sentences on plain-error review, finding the fourth
    prong met over 70% of the time it is reached. See Appendix A. That is hardly
    “rare.”
    It is understandably tempting to say that if a defendant’s substantial
    rights were likely affected by an error at sentencing, the longer deprivation of
    liberty necessarily and seriously affects the fairness, integrity, or public reputa-
    13
    In this regard, the majority is guilty of an inadvertent but telling omission. The
    repeated absence of the word “seriously” from its application of the fourth prong to Escalante-
    Reyes speaks volumes, because it shows that this en banc majoritySSlike the panels of this
    court in generalSSdoes not take “seriously” the word “seriously” in applying the fourth prong.
    Thus, the majority begins its fourth-prong analysis by stating, “The fourth prong of plain error
    asks whether the error affects ‘the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceed-
    ings . . .” (quoting 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    ). Later, in discussing United States v. Reyna, 
    358 F.3d 344
    , 352 (5th Cir. 2004) (en banc), the majority says that “[w]e found that the error did
    not affect the ‘fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings’ . . . .” And in
    summarizing its ruling on the fourth prong, the majority again omits “seriously” in concluding
    that “the district court’s repeated emphasis on Escalante-Reyes’s need for anger management
    in prison affected the ‘fairness, integrity, or public reputation’ of the sentencing proceeding.”
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    No. 11-40632
    tion of judicial proceedings.14 But such a liberty “interest is always at stake in
    criminal cases,” 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 142
    , and an approach that collapses the
    third and fourth prongs essentially transforms plain-error review into harmless-
    error review with a shifted burden, “drain[ing] all content from the doctrine of
    plain error,” 
    Ellis, 564 F.3d at 379
    . It “emasculates the plain-error standard of
    review,” making it “weakened to the point of toothlessness.” United States v.
    Mudekunye, 
    646 F.3d 281
    , 291 (5th Cir. 2011) (Barksdale, J., dissenting).
    “[A] plain error affecting substantial rights does not, without more, satisfy
    the Atkinson standard, for otherwise the discretion afforded by Rule 52(b) would
    be illusory.” 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 737
    (emphasis added). What is more, “[t]he
    fourth prong is meant to be applied on a case-specific and fact-intensive basis,”
    so a “per se approach” in the sentencing, or any other, context “is flawed.” Puck-
    
    ett, 556 U.S. at 142
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted). Sadly, time
    and again, this court has either given the fourth prong little analysis or has
    assumed it away altogether.15
    Beyond all the injury this court’s approach does to the law and our system
    of justice, it adds a fair amount of insult as well. When this court reverses on
    plain-error review, unless there has been an intervening change of law, it indicts
    the federal district judge as having made a ruling that seriously affects the fair-
    ness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings. In such cases, we in
    14
    Although the majority does not explicitly make this error, they practically read out
    the fourth prong from the plain-error standard, as pointed out in part II.B, infra.
    15
    See, e.g., United States v. Mudekunye, 
    646 F.3d 281
    , 291 (5th Cir. 2011); United
    States v. Lopez, 434 F. App’x 369 (5th Cir. 2011); United States v. Andino-Ortega, 
    608 F.3d 305
    ,
    311-12 (5th Cir. 2010) (stating that “because the district court’s error clearly affected Andino-
    Ortega’s sentence, we also find that the error seriously affected the fairness, integrity, or public
    reputation of judicial proceedings”); United States v. Munoz-Ortenza, 
    563 F.3d 112
    , 116 (5th
    Cir. 2009); United States v. Cruz, 
    418 F.3d 481
    , 485 (5th Cir. 2005) (“Because [the defendant]
    has shown the likelihood that the error in this case increased his sentence, he has shown that
    the error seriously affects the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings.”)
    (citation omitted).
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    No. 11-40632
    effect hold as a matter of law that the district judge was “derelict.” 
    Frady, 456 U.S. at 163
    . If this court’s fourth-prong rulings are to be believed, we have
    scores of district judges in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi who constantly
    impugn the integrity of our judicial system with incompetent or malicious deci-
    sions. By this measure more than half of the district judges in this circuit have,
    at one time or another, been derelict on the bench, see Appendix B; those who
    have not been so maligned need only spend more time as a judge before they too
    jeopardize the fairness of the judicial branch, according to this court and as
    reinforced by the instant en banc declaration.
    Take, for example, cases cited in Appendix B. In United States v. Perez,
    460 F. App’x 294 (5th Cir. 2012) (per curiam), did the panel really mean that
    Judge Diana Saldana committed “the most grievous of unnoticed errors”16 and
    undermined the integrity of the legal system when she allowed the defendant to
    allocute on some but not all topics after his attorney was allowed to say anything
    he wished? In United States v. Palmer, 
    456 F.3d 484
    (5th Cir. 2006), did the
    panel intend to brand Judge Sim Lake with seriously damaging the reputation
    of judicial proceedings when he decided that the gun possessed by the defen-
    dants was in furtherance of a drug-trafficking crime? In United States v. Wash-
    ington, 442 F. App’x 130 (5th Cir. 2011) (per curiam), did Judge Sarah Vance
    really undermine the integrity of the judiciary or commit a “blockbuster[]” error17
    when she utilized defendant’s unobjected-to statement that he had two
    controlled-substance convictions?18 In United States v. Moreno-Florean, 
    542 F.3d 445
    (5th Cir. 2008), was Judge Kathleen Cordone seriously unfair, offending
    16
    
    Robinson, 627 F.3d at 956
    .
    17
    
    Taylor, 54 F.3d at 973
    .
    18
    I admit to having been a member of that panel. Mea maxima culpa.
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    No. 11-40632
    “core notions of justice,”19 when she deemed a prior kidnaping conviction a crime
    of violence where there was no objection? In United States v. Gordon, 
    346 F.3d 135
    (5th Cir. 2003) (per curiam), did Judge William Barbour seriously damage
    the reputation of the American judiciary when he held, on an issue of first
    impression, that home detention is not a “sentence of imprisonment”?
    It is indeed surprising, with this rate of “particularly egregious” errors,
    that the public has not lost confidence in the federal judicial system altogether.
    I nonetheless find myself disagreeing that our able district judges have been so
    derelict, craven, and irresponsible.
    B.
    Although acknowledging the existence of the fourth prong, the majority
    regrettably enshrines this court’s generous and permissive pattern of reversal
    on plain-error review: It rules that this case is one in which the court should
    exercise its discretion in reversing the district judge’s error because it seriously
    affected the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of the judicial system. The
    majority does so for three reasons.
    First, it finds that the fourth prong is met because of a supposed absence
    of evidence in the record to show that the sentence was “fair.” Although the
    majority does not see the need to justify reversal with specific facts, I disagree,
    because, as the majority acknowledges, “[r]eversal for plain error is necessarily
    a fact-specific inquiry,” and that applies as well to the fourth prong. 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 142
    .
    Escalante-Reyes pleaded guilty of being found illegally present in the
    United States less than two months after deportation when he was apprehended
    during an alien- and drug-smuggling operation. He had been deported for a con-
    19
    
    Gonzalez-Huerta, 403 F.3d at 739
    .
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    No. 11-40632
    viction of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after chasing down a man
    with a shovel and swinging it at him, inflicting two seven-inch lacerations.
    Although initially given only probation, Escalante-Reyes was sentenced to two
    years in prison after testing positive for cocaine and flouting several other condi-
    tions of his probation. And his aggravated assault was not his first run-in with
    the law: He had been convicted of eight other crimes, including driving while
    intoxicated, a domestic violence offense in which he dragged his common-law
    wife across the floor, and a separate assault offense that left his common-law
    wife “lying in a fetal position, crying, and hiding behind the dresser” after having
    been seized by the neck and slapped.
    There are mitigating circumstances: Escalante-Reyes’s common-law wife
    SSan illegal alien whom he has abused on multiple occasionsSSand two children
    are in the United States, facts that he gives as his reason for attempting to
    return to this country. He claims that his wife and children will rejoin him in
    Mexico after he has finished his sentence, so a shorter sentence would enable
    him to return to his family more quickly. He also notes that his last criminal
    offense, the aggravated assault in 2003, is now nine years old (but he was on
    supervised release for six years until he violated his probation by having used
    cocaine in 2009, after which he served two years in prison). Thus, not counting
    the time he was on supervised release and in prison, Escalante-Reyes waited
    only about two months before committing another crime.
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    No. 11-40632
    The district judgeSSthe Honorable Joseph M. Hood20SSfocused on several
    factors in determining Escalante-Reyes’s sentence. First, he noted that the sen-
    tencing guideline range was 63-78 months. Second, he spent the bulk of the col-
    loquy focused on Escalante-Reyes’s egregious criminal history, especially the
    aggravated assault and the multiple beatings of his wife. Third, Judge Hood
    noted, “there’s a temper and anger problem here, too. . . . . And it seems to me
    that that’s what we have to get under control. And that’s got to be the basis for
    what good prison will do for this Defendant.” Fourth, after Escalante-Reyes’s
    counsel objected to the 60-month sentence as not adequately addressing the 18
    U.S.C. § 3553(a) factors, Judge Hood responded, “He just got out of prison. . . .
    He turns around and comes back right away.” The court overruled the objection
    20
    Judge Hood is a distinguished Senior United States District Judge for the Eastern
    District of Kentucky. He served for fourteen years as a U.S. Magistrate Judge and has been
    a district judge for twenty-two years. Since assuming senior status, he has generously volun-
    teered for a program that brings visiting judges to the Southern and Western Districts of Texas
    to assist in handling the high docket loads caused by drug and illegal-alien offenses.
    A press release by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Texas, dated
    May 21, 2012, shows Judge Hood’s continuing valuable service to this circuit as a visiting
    judge:
    After a lengthy day of hearings before visiting U.S. District Judge Joseph M.
    Hood, 14 convicted drug traffickers and/or money launderers have now been sen-
    tenced to federal prison . . . .Those sentenced today include truck drivers,
    warehouse employees and others who assisted in supervising and transporting
    narcotics and/or drug proceeds.
    http://www.justice.gov/usao/txs/1News/Releases/2012%20May/120521%20Segovia%20et%2
    0al_print.html (last accessed July 9, 2012).
    The result reached by the en banc majority is a prime example of the popular saying
    that “no good deed goes unpunished.” It is unfortunate on many levels that the court labels
    Judge Hood’s sentence to Escalante-Reyes as seriously undermining the fairness, integrity, or
    public reputation of judicial proceedings. That is hardly the thanks we should give to a dedi-
    cated visiting judgeSSor any other judgeSSwithout the most sober consideration of the label we
    are affixing to his or her actions in imposing sentence. I do not suggest that our review of a
    sentence should be affected by the identity of the sentencing judge, but a finding that the
    fourth prong of plain-error review is satisfied has collateral and unintended consequences, one
    of which is to besmirch and blemish the reputations of able, hard-working district judges.
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    No. 11-40632
    and imposed a 60-month sentence, which was below the guideline range, below
    the probation officer’s recommendation of 70 months in the presentence report,
    and well below the 20-year statutory maximum. See 8 U.S.C. § 1326(b)(2).
    Considering all the circumstances, it is hard to see how Escalante-Reyes’s
    sentence was fundamentally “unfair” or how Judge Hood’s “mistake” of only
    twice referring to rehabilitation,21 among a list of three other factors, seriously
    impugns the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings.
    Given (1) that Escalante-Reyes’s offense was part of a larger alien- and drug-
    smuggling operation, (2) that it occurred only two months after his deportation,
    (3) his record of violent crime and domestic abuse, (4) his repeated abuse of
    cocaine, and (5) his anger-management issues, which justify a longer term of
    incapacitation for protection of the public and his wife, Judge Hood’s imposition
    of this below-guideline sentence cannot be “seriously” unfair. Despite the
    extremely difficult task of making our fourth-prong jurisprudence any worse, the
    majority has reached a new low even for this court bySSfor the first time as far
    as I can tellSSreversing a below-guideline sentence as inherently unfair.
    Second, the majority reverses because the government did not satisfy the
    court that the “‘integrity or public reputation’ of the judicial proceeding was pro-
    tected despite the erroneous consideration of Escalante-Reyes’s need for anger
    management treatment in determining the length of sentence.”22 But the majori-
    ty’s approach turns the fourth prong on its head. It assumes that an error
    always seriously impugns the integrity or public reputation of the judicial sys-
    21
    Though it is true that the court referred to Escalante-Reyes’s anger-management
    problem a third time, that was in the context of recommending treatment while in prison. This
    type of statement is not error. 
    Tapia, 131 S. Ct. at 2392
    .
    22
    In saying this, the majority deviates subtly from Olano. Whereas Olano looks to
    whether the error seriously affects the “integrity or public reputation of judicial proceedings”
    generally, 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 732
    (emphasis added), the majority, in addition to omitting the
    word “seriously,” asks only whether the error affects the integrity or public reputation of the
    specific judicial proceeding in this case.
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    No. 11-40632
    tem unless the government somehow demonstrates that that integrity and repu-
    tation are still “protected.” Instead, this court should uphold the sentence unless
    Escalante-Reyes can show a particularly sympathetic case in which the demands
    of justice so seriously undermine the integrity of our system that we are willing
    to depart from our well-established procedure to correct it.
    The majority therebySSalarminglySSpresumes plain error unless the pre-
    vailing party can prove otherwise. The Supreme Court, however, is unequivocal
    that the burden of proving the fourth prong is on the party seeking reversalSS
    here, Escalante-Reyes. United States v. Vonn, 
    535 U.S. 55
    , 63 (2002). Further,
    as demonstrated above, the aggravating aspects of Escalante-Reyes’s offense are
    more than enough to justify his sentence.
    It is also worth pointing out that Judge Hood’s error was not one con-
    cerning core notions of justice, but rather one of statutory interpretation. Tapia
    did not reject imprisonment for purposes of rehabilitation because it violated
    some fundamental principle of due process and incarceration, but rather because
    it was not in accordance with 18 U.S.C. § 3582(a).23 Rehabilitation, for hundreds
    of years, has been considered a valid reason for imprisonment: For nearly a cen-
    tury before the Sentencing Reform Act (“SRA”), rehabilitation formed the basis
    for sentencing. 
    Tapia, 131 S. Ct. at 2386
    .
    Even though Congress has now largely rejected rehabilitation as a ration-
    ale for increasing a sentence, that does not mean that for a hundred years judges
    have been seriously undermining the integrity and reputation of the judicial
    system. Neither Congress nor the Court has found that sending convicted felons
    23
    Although the majority attempts to make much of the error’s being incongruent with
    the “express admonition” of Congress, the issue was less than obvious: The majority of circuits
    that had ruled on it would have found no error in Escalante-Reyes’s sentence before Tapia. See
    
    Tapia, 131 S. Ct. at 2386
    n.1 (citing United States v. Duran, 
    37 F.3d 557
    (9th Cir. 1994);
    United States v. Hawk Wing, 
    433 F.3d 622
    (8th Cir. 2006); United States v. Jimenez, 
    605 F.3d 415
    (6th Cir. 2010)).
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    No. 11-40632
    to prison for rehabilitation is inherently unjust; to the contrary, Congress found
    only that prisons could not “rehabilitate individuals on a routine basis . . . or that
    parole officers could [not] determine accurately whether or when a particular
    prisoner had been rehabilitated.” 
    Id. at 2387 (citation,
    internal quotation marks,
    and alterations omitted) (emphasis added). Indeed, Congress and the Court
    have explicitly endorsed attempts at rehabilitation. 
    Id. at 2392. Instead
    of declaring rehabilitation as contrary to the idea of criminal jus-
    tice, the SRA was designed to minimize indeterminate sentences, decrease sen-
    tence disparities, and limit judicial discretion, all the while providing legislative
    guidance. 
    Id. at 2387. Judge
    Hood did not follow the pre-SRA model of imposing
    an inordinately long sentence for the purposes of rehabilitating Escalante-Reyes
    or conferring discretion to release him once rehabilitated; rather, he gave a leni-
    ent sentence, considering the need for rehabilitation as one of many factors.
    Although it is undoubtedly true in hindsight that, in doing so, the court acted
    contrary to statute, it is equally true that this particular error by no means ser-
    iously undermines the integrity or public reputation of our judicial system.24
    Finally, the majority justifies reversal because of Judge Hood’s reliance on
    anger management as a justification for the sentence, in light of Congress’s and
    the Supreme Court’s rejection of that rationale. But the majority’s notion merely
    wads up the first three prongs of plain error review and stuffs them into the
    empty skin of the fourth prong to give it some sign of life.
    There is no doubt the first three prongs are met, otherwise we would not
    be addressing the fourthSSbut that is not nearly enough. Of course the district
    court’s decision is contrary to Tapia, otherwise it wouldn’t be error at all. Of
    course the sentencing rationale was contrary to clearSSalbeit post-hocSSSupreme
    Court precedent, otherwise the error wouldn’t be clear or obvious. And of course
    24
    Indeed, if every Tapia error would satisfy plain error review, the Court would not
    have remanded in Tapia itself. See 
    Tapia, 131 S. Ct. at 2393
    .
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    No. 11-40632
    Judge Hood relied significantly on an erroneous consideration, otherwise the
    error wouldn’t affect Escalante-Reyes’s substantial rights. These rationales,
    however, are not sufficient to find the fourth prong met. As noted above, even
    if, arguendo, a given error affects to some degree the integrity of the judicial pro-
    cess, we may reverse only the errors that seriously do so. The majority, instead,
    and without admitting it, consigns the fourth prong to oblivion.25
    In full view of the facts, the question the fourth prong requires us to
    answer before we exercise our discretion to reverse this below-guideline sentence
    is this: Does Judge Hood’s improper consideration of Escalante-Reyes’s rehabili-
    tation needs, among several other legitimate sentencing considerations, seri-
    ously affect the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings?
    Is this unpreserved, forfeited error so “particularly egregious,”26 grievous, and
    serious, and this case so rare and “exceptional,”27 that we are willing to abrogate
    our most basic and longstanding rules of procedure to correct it because it gener-
    ally “undermine[s] the fundamental fairness”28 of the courts and offends “core
    notions of justice”?29 If left uncorrected, would this five-year sentence shock the
    public’s conscience and cause fair-minded men and women to lose confidence in
    our judicial system? The answer to these questions is “No”:
    25
    That is not to say that the degree to which the second and third prongs have been
    met never influences a fourth-prong analysis. There may be a case in which, for example, an
    error that is particularly obvious to the district judge and affects substantial rights to a great
    degree is thereby likely to meet the fourth prong. But this is not that type of case, nor does the
    majority argue that it is. The error was not particularly obviousSSindeed, all agree the law
    was unclearSSand there is no reason to suppose that on remand the court will impose a sub-
    stantially different sentence.
    26
    
    Young, 470 U.S. at 15
    .
    27
    
    Atkinson, 297 U.S. at 160
    .
    28
    
    Young, 470 U.S. at 16
    .
    29
    
    Gonzalez-Huerta, 403 F.3d at 739
    .
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    [E]ven if an increase in a sentence be seen as inevitably ‘substantial’
    in one sense it does not inevitably affect the fairness, integrity, or
    public reputation of judicial proceedings. To conclude that not cor-
    recting the error casts doubt on the fairness, integrity, or public
    reputation of the proceedings drains all content from the doctrine of
    plain error.
    
    Ellis, 564 F.3d at 378
    -79.
    There are some cases in which we at least arguably may legitimately con-
    sider exercising our limited and circumscribed discretion to reverse on plain
    error review,30 but this error does not offend “core notions of justice.” Gonzalez-
    
    Huerta, 403 F.3d at 739
    . The majority abuses that discretion by reversing the
    sentence, which does not “seriously affect the fairness, integrity or public reputa-
    tion of judicial proceedings.” 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    (citation and alterations
    omitted). The majority does not take the word “seriously” seriously enough.
    **********
    Appendix A
    Fifth Circuit Cases Applying the Fourth Prong
    (Sentencing cases are denoted with an asterisk.)
    Fifth Circuit cases in which plain error has been found:
    United States v. Beasley, 
    2012 WL 2504996
    (5th Cir. June 27, 2012)*;
    United States v. Rodriguez, 
    2012 WL 2369333
    (5th Cir. June 22, 2012)*;
    United States v. Herrera, 466 F. App’x 409 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Broussard, 
    669 F.3d 537
    (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    30
    See, e.g., United States v. Broussard, 
    669 F.3d 537
    , 555 (5th Cir. 2012) (applying
    fourth prong correctly where the district court’s error yielded a sentence four times as long as
    the guidelinesSS40 years when the guidelines showed 10); United States v. Garcia-Quintanilla,
    
    574 F.3d 295
    , 304 (5th Cir. 2009) (finding fourth prong satisfied where the district court’s mis-
    taken belief that the sentence could be suspended later for cooperation led to a sentence far
    beyond what the court intended and eight times the top of the guideline range); United States
    v. Williamson, 
    183 F.3d 458
    , 464 (5th Cir. 1999) (concluding that fourth prong was met where
    a sentence twice the proper maximumSS30 years instead of 15SSwas imposed, and correcting
    it required neither a hearing nor introduction of new evidence).
    40
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Perez, 460 F. App’x 294 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Martinez, 466 F. App’x 357 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Trevino-Rodriguez, 463 F. App’x 305 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Hudson, 457 F. App’x 417 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Alegria-Alvarez, No. 10-10357, 
    2012 WL 918632
          (5th Cir. Mar. 20, 2012) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Brunson, 422 F. App’x 353 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Phillips, 415 F. App’x 557 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Juarez-Gonzalez, 451 F. App’x 387 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Aguilar, 
    645 F.3d 319
    (5th Cir. 2011);
    United States v. Dolic, 439 F. App’x 425 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Segura-Sanchez, 452 F. App’x 471 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Lopez, 434 F. App’x 369 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Mudekunye, 
    646 F.3d 281
    (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Graves, 409 F. App’x 780 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Aguilera-DeLeon, 436 F. App’x 333 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Watkins, 428 F. App’x 343 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Washington, 442 F. App’x 130 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Garcia-Paulin, 
    627 F.3d 127
    (5th Cir. 2010);
    United States v. Williams, 
    602 F.3d 313
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Cavazos-Rodriguez, 400 F. App’x 935 (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Andino-Ortega, 
    608 F.3d 305
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Ortuno-Santana, 372 F. App’x 533 (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. John, 
    597 F.3d 263
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. McCrumby, 402 F. App’x 961 (5th Cir. 2010);
    United States v. Taylor, 435 F. App’x 294 (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Starnes, 378 F. App’x 421 (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Self, 
    596 F.3d 245
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. McCann, 
    613 F.3d 486
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    Richard v. Martin, 390 F. App’x 323 (5th Cir. 2010);
    United States v. Garcia-Quintanilla, 
    574 F.3d 295
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Munoz-Ortega, 
    563 F.3d 112
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Diaz-Sanchez, 307 F. App’x 797 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Villareal-Rodriguez, 356 F. App’x 759 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Avila-Cortez, 
    582 F.3d 602
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    41
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Hernandez-Muniz, 354 F. App’x 133 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Bellorin-Torres, 341 F. App’x 19 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Whitfield, 
    590 F.3d 325
    (5th Cir. 2009);
    United States v. Adams, 314 F. App’x 633 (5th Cir. 2009);
    United States v. Argumedo-Perez, 326 F. App’x 293 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    Doolittle v. Holmes, 306 F. App’x 293 (5th Cir. 2009);
    United States v. Sandlin, 
    589 F.3d 749
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Sealed Appellant 1, 
    591 F.3d 812
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Arami, 
    536 F.3d 479
    (5th Cir. 2008);
    United States v. Williams, 277 F. App’x 365 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Hernandez, 299 F. App’x 413 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Gonzalez-Terrazas, 
    529 F.3d 293
    (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Moreno-Florean, 
    542 F.3d 445
    (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Martinez, 301 F. App’x 320 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Arreola-Trasvina, 284 F. App’x 191 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Coleman, 280 F. App’x 388 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Sanchez, 
    527 F.3d 463
    (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Baker, 
    538 F.3d 324
    (5th Cir. 2008);
    United States v. Gracia, 
    522 F.3d 597
    (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Carrizales-Jaramillo, 303 F. App’x 215 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Jimenez, 275 F. App’x 433 (5th Cir. 2008);
    United States v. Sanchez-Vasquez, 
    2008 WL 2325633
          (5th Cir. June 6, 2008) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Ramirez-Cuadra, 283 F. App’x 248 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Garcia-Vazquez, 287 F. App’x 417 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Rojas-Luna, 
    522 F.3d 502
    (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Ogba, 
    526 F.3d 214
    (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Roldan-Olivares, 242 F. App’x 192 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Gonzalez-Mercado, 221 F. App’x 356 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Dentler, 
    492 F.3d 306
    (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Lister, 229 F. App’x 334 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Maturin, 
    488 F.3d 657
    (5th Cir. 2007);
    United States v. Thompson, 254 F. App’x 278 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Chinchilla-Galvan, 242 F. App’x 228 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Lozoya, 232 F. App’x 431 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    42
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Martinez-Zamorano, 228 F. App’x 497 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Castaneda-Baltazar, 239 F. App’x 900 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Ortiz, 252 F. App’x 664 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Landeros-Reyes, 229 F. App’x 302 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Duque-Hernandez, 227 F. App’x 326 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Bustamante-Castillo, 214 F. App’x 377 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Gonzales, 
    484 F.3d 712
    (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Willingham, 
    497 F.3d 541
    (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Gonzales, 236 F. App’x 1 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Aguilar-Uriostigue, 237 F. App’x 938 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Austin, 
    479 F.3d 363
    (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Eugenio-Salvador, 207 F. App’x 409 (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    Liner v. Hosp. Serv. Dist. No. 1 of Jefferson Parish, 230 F. App’x 361 (5th Cir. 2007);
    United States v. Coil, 
    442 F.3d 912
    (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Franklin, 
    2006 WL 1049096
          (5th Cir. Apr. 21, 2006) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Loston, 208 F. App’x 340 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Meraz-Enriquez, 
    442 F.3d 331
    (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Gallegos, 161 F. App’x 899 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Palmer, 
    456 F.3d 484
    (5th Cir. 2006);
    United States v. Sanchez-Navarro, 169 F. App’x 899 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Denson, 183 F. App’x 411 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Taylor, 187 F. App’x 362 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Severin, 221 F. App’x 299 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Montes-Nunez, 155 F. App’x 154 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Talavera-Rosas, 153 F. App’x 932 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Hernandez-Juarez, 138 F. App’x 640 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Pennell, 
    409 F.3d 240
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Pea, 131 F. App’x 975 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Cruz, 
    418 F.3d 481
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Sanchez-Torres, 136 F. App’x 644 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Moncrief, 150 F. App’x 341 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Fowler, 136 F. App’x 620 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Munoz, 
    408 F.3d 222
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Villegas, 
    404 F.3d 355
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    43
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. de Jesus-Batres, 
    410 F.3d 154
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Dunn, 142 F. App’x 822 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Gonzalez-Borjas, 125 F. App’x 556 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Garza-Lopez, 
    410 F.3d 268
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Hewitt, 145 F. App’x 876 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    Septimus v. Univ. of Hous., 
    399 F.3d 601
    (5th Cir. 2005);
    United States v. Monreal-Monreal, 134 F. App’x 726 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Gonzalez-Chavez, 
    432 F.3d 334
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Alfaro, 
    408 F.3d 204
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Garcia, 
    416 F.3d 440
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Rosa-Mascorro, 143 F. App’x 621 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Inman, 
    411 F.3d 591
    (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Starnes, 157 F. App’x 687 (5th Cir. 2005)*;
    United States v. Vasquez, 108 F. App’x 979 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Brownlow, 87 F. App’x 337 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Lopez-Hernandez, 112 F. App’x 984 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Insaulgarat, 
    378 F.3d 456
    (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Matute-Galdamez, 111 F. App’x 264 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Aguilar-Delgado, 120 F. App’x 522 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Garcia-Costilla, 113 F. App’x 616 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Palomares-Candela, 104 F. App’x 957 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Espinoza, 67 F. App’x 252 (5th Cir. 2003)*;
    United States v. Luna-Montoya, 80 F. App’x 334 (5th Cir. 2003)*;
    United States v. Griffin, 
    324 F.3d 330
    (5th Cir. 2003);
    United States v. Gordon, 
    346 F.3d 135
    (5th Cir. 2003)*;
    Anderson v. Siemens Corp., 
    335 F.3d 466
    (5th Cir. 2003);
    United States v. Collier, 75 F. App’x 256 (5th Cir. 2003)*;
    United States v. Reyes, 
    300 F.3d 555
    (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Moreci, 
    283 F.3d 293
    (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Gracia-Cantu, 
    302 F.3d 308
    (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Avants, 
    278 F.3d 510
    (5th Cir. 2002);
    United States v. Davis, 54 F. App’x 793 (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Hunter, 
    275 F.3d 42
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Gonzalez, 
    259 F.3d 355
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    United States v. Alarcon, 
    261 F.3d 416
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    44
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Coleman, 
    250 F.3d 738
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Vasquez-Zamora, 
    253 F.3d 211
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    United States v. Moore, 
    281 F.3d 1279
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Hilario-Carpio, 
    275 F.3d 1083
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Randle, 
    259 F.3d 319
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    United States v. Villareal, 
    253 F.3d 831
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    United States v. Johnson, 
    248 F.3d 1138
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. McWaine, 
    243 F.3d 871
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    Oden v. Oktibbeha Cnty., Miss., 
    246 F.3d 458
    (5th Cir. 2001);
    United States v. Anderson, 
    275 F.3d 42
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Wiltz, 
    254 F.3d 1080
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Ellis, 
    248 F.3d 1139
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Montalvo-Torres, 
    240 F.3d 1073
    (5th Cir. 2000) (unpublished);
    United States v. Carrizales-Cedillo, 
    228 F.3d 408
    (5th Cir. 2000) (unpublished);
    United States v. Angeles-Mascote, 
    206 F.3d 529
    (5th Cir. 2000);
    United States v. Jones, 
    207 F.3d 658
    (5th Cir. 2000) (unpublished)*;
    Brown v. Bryan Cnty., Okla., 
    219 F.3d 450
    (5th Cir. 2000);
    United States v. Johnson, 
    194 F.3d 657
    (5th Cir. 1999);
    United States v. Williamson, 
    183 F.3d 458
    (5th Cir. 1999)*;
    Haggerty v. Johnson, 
    204 F.3d 1114
    (5th Cir. 1999) (unpublished);
    United States v. Winter, 
    189 F.3d 467
    (5th Cir. 1999) (unpublished);
    Nero v. Indus. Molding Corp., 
    167 F.3d 921
    (5th Cir. 1999);
    United States v. Myers, 
    198 F.3d 160
    (5th Cir. 1999);
    United States v. Saenz, 
    134 F.3d 697
    (5th Cir. 1998);
    United States v. Wilson, 
    116 F.3d 1066
    (5th Cir. 1997)*;
    Crawford v. Falcon Drilling Co., 
    131 F.3d 1120
    (5th Cir. 1997);
    Barber v. Nabors Drilling U.S.A., Inc., 
    130 F.3d 702
    (5th Cir. 1997);
    United States v. Coscarelli, 
    105 F.3d 984
    (5th Cir. 1997)*;
    United States v. Kubosh, 
    120 F.3d 47
    (5th Cir. 1997)*;
    Baldwin v. Rollo, 
    132 F.3d 1455
    (5th Cir. 1997) (unpublished);
    United States v. Coleman, 
    98 F.3d 1339
    (5th Cir. 1996) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Aderholt, 
    87 F.3d 740
    (5th Cir. 1996)*;
    United States v. McGuire, 
    1996 WL 125025
    (5th Cir. Mar. 20, 1996) (unpublished);
    United States v. McGuire, 
    79 F.3d 1396
    (5th Cir. 1996);
    United States v. Franks, 
    46 F.3d 402
    (5th Cir. 1995)*;
    45
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Cabral-Castillo, 
    35 F.3d 182
    (5th Cir. 1994)*;
    United States v. Knowles, 
    29 F.3d 947
    (5th Cir. 1994)*;
    United States v. Hoster, 
    988 F.2d 1374
    (5th Cir. 1993)*;
    United States v. Igbingie, 
    5 F.3d 1494
    (5th Cir. 1993).
    Fifth Circuit cases in which the fourth prong has been considered, but plain error
    has not been found:
    United States v. Zaleta, 458 F. App’x 369 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Dimas-Flores, 458 F. App’x 366 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Baldon, 457 F. App’x 393 (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Asencio-Perdomo, 
    674 F.3d 444
    (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Chavez-Hernandez, 
    671 F.3d 494
    (5th Cir. 2012)*;
    United States v. Soloranzo, 449 F. App’x 412 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Barragan-Espino, 448 F. App’x 472 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Legg, 439 F. App’x 312 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Dolenz, 413 F. App’x 703 (5th Cir. 2011)*;
    United States v. Seale, 
    600 F.3d 473
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Lopez, 392 F. App’x 245 (5th Cir. 2010);
    United States v. Davis, 
    602 F.3d 643
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Williams, 
    620 F.3d 483
    (5th Cir. 2010)*;
    United States v. Cuevas-Jacome, 312 F. App’x 680 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Whitelaw, 
    580 F.3d 256
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Prather, 312 F. App’x 705 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Blanco-Perez, 310 F. App’x 622 (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Ellis, 
    564 F.3d 370
    (5th Cir. 2009)*;
    United States v. Brewster, 282 F. App’x 339 (5th Cir. 2008);
    United States v. Garcia-Miranda, 261 F. App’x 679 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Williams, 277 F. App’x 472 (5th Cir. 2008)*;
    United States v. Martinez-Rosas, 215 F. App’x 381 (5th Cir. 2007);
    United States v. Jones, 
    489 F.3d 679
    (5th Cir. 2007)*;
    United States v. Magwood, 
    445 F.3d 826
    (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Duarte-Juarez, 
    441 F.3d 336
    (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Perez, 179 F. App’x 234 (5th Cir. 2006)*;
    United States v. Smith, 110 F. App’x 380 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Reyna, 
    358 F.3d 344
    (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    46
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Martinez-Mendez, 102 F. App’x 428 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. del Bosque, 86 F. App’x 726 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. de Anda-Duenez, 96 F. App’x 197 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Castillo, 
    386 F.3d 632
    (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    Delgado v. Reef Resort Ltd., 
    364 F.3d 642
    (5th Cir. 2004);
    United States v. Spooner, 117 F. App’x 357 (5th Cir. 2004)*;
    United States v. Enriquez, 61 F. App’x 120 (5th Cir. 2003);
    United States v. Mendoza-Gonzalez, 
    318 F.3d 663
    (5th Cir. 2003)*;
    United States v. Becera-Lopez, 51 F. App’x 482 (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Longoria, 
    298 F.3d 367
    (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Murray, 37 F. App’x 712 (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Randle, 
    304 F.3d 373
    (5th Cir. 2002)*;
    United States v. Rivera, 
    295 F.3d 461
    (5th Cir. 2002);
    United States v. Gutierrez, 
    250 F.3d 739
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Flores, 
    281 F.3d 1279
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Garcia-Flores, 
    246 F.3d 451
    (5th Cir. 2001);
    United States v. Virgen-Moreno, 
    265 F.3d 276
    (5th Cir. 2001);
    United States v. Daniels, 
    252 F.3d 411
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    United States v. Miranda, 
    248 F.3d 434
    (5th Cir. 2001)*;
    United States v. Thompson, 
    253 F.3d 700
    (5th Cir. 2001) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Jacquez, 
    212 F.3d 595
    (5th Cir. 2000) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Rios-Quintero, 
    204 F.3d 214
    (5th Cir. 2000);
    Gamboa v. Henderson, 
    240 F.3d 1074
    (5th Cir. 2000) (unpublished);
    United States v. Evans, 
    224 F.3d 765
    (5th Cir. 2000) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Branam, 
    231 F.3d 931
    (5th Cir. 2000);
    United States v. Hampton, 
    181 F.3d 96
    (5th Cir. 1999) (unpublished);
    United States v. Sandoval, 
    203 F.3d 828
    (5th Cir. 1999) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Cordero-Godinez, 
    176 F.3d 479
    (5th Cir. 1999) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Muhammad, 
    165 F.3d 327
    (5th Cir. 1999);
    United States v. Harris, 
    104 F.3d 1465
    (5th Cir. 1997);
    United States v. Blocker, 
    104 F.3d 720
    (5th Cir. 1997);
    United States v. Sauls, 
    121 F.3d 704
    (5th Cir. 1997)*;
    United States v. Waldron, 
    118 F.3d 369
    (5th Cir. 1997);
    United States v. Campbell, 
    95 F.3d 52
    (5th Cir. 1996);
    United States v. Upton, 
    91 F.3d 677
    (5th Cir. 1996);
    47
    No. 11-40632
    United States v. Reyes, 
    102 F.3d 1361
    (5th Cir. 1996);
    United States v. Orellana, 
    81 F.3d 154
    (5th Cir. 1996)*;
    United States v. Reve, 
    51 F.3d 1045
    (5th Cir. 1995) (unpublished)*;
    United States v. Clark, 
    67 F.3d 1154
    (5th Cir. 1995);
    Peaches Entm’t Corp. v. Entm’t Repertoire Assocs., Inc., 
    62 F.3d 690
    (5th Cir. 1995);
    United States v. Rodriguez, 
    15 F.3d 408
    (5th Cir. 1994)*;
    United States v. Miro, 
    29 F.3d 194
    (5th Cir. 1994)*.
    ***************
    Appendix B
    Current District Judges Within the Fifth Circuit
    Who Have Been Reversed on Plain Error
    (One case shown for each judge.)
    Southern District of Texas:
    United States v. Perez, 460 F. App’x 294 (5th Cir. 2012) (Saldana, J.);
    United States v. Dolic, 439 F. App’x 425 (5th Cir. 2011) (Hughes, J.);
    United States v. Lopez, 434 F. App’x 369 (5th Cir. 2011) (Hanen, J.);
    United States v. Aguilar, 
    645 F.3d 319
    (5th Cir. 2011) (Jack, J.);
    United States v. Villareal-Rodriguez, 356 F. App’x 759 (5th Cir. 2009) (Rainey, J.);
    United States v. Avila-Cortez, 
    582 F.3d 602
    (5th Cir. 2009) (Head, J.);
    United States v. Rojas-Luna, 
    522 F.3d 502
    (5th Cir. 2008) (Alvarez, J.);
    United States v. Palmer, 
    456 F.3d 484
    (5th Cir. 2006) (Lake, J.);
    United States v. Gonzalez-Chavez, 
    432 F.3d 334
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Ellison, J.);
    United States v. Moncrief, 150 F. App’x 341 (5th Cir. 2005) (Rosenthal, J.);
    United States v. Cruz, 
    418 F.3d 481
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Tagle, J.);
    United States v. Garcia, 
    416 F.3d 440
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Crane, J.);
    United States v. Garza-Lopez, 
    410 F.3d 268
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Hinojosa, J.);
    United States v. Villegas, 
    404 F.3d 355
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Hoyt, J.);
    Septimus v. Univ. of Hous., 
    399 F.3d 601
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Gilmore, J.);
    United States v. Lopez-Hernandez, 112 F. App’x 984 (5th Cir. 2004) (Harmon, J.);
    United States v. Griffin, 
    324 F.3d 330
    (5th Cir. 2003) (Atlas, J.);
    Barber v. Nabors Drilling U.S.A., Inc., 
    130 F.3d 702
    (5th Cir. 1997) (Hittner, J.);
    United States v. Aderholt, 
    87 F.3d 740
    (5th Cir. 1996) (Werlein, J.).
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    No. 11-40632
    Eastern District of Texas:
    United States v. Self, 
    596 F.3d 245
    (5th Cir. 2010) (Heartfield, J.);
    United States v. Sandlin, 
    589 F.3d 749
    (5th Cir. 2009) (Schell, J.).
    Western District of Texas:
    United States v. Garcia-Paulin, 
    627 F.3d 127
    (5th Cir. 2010) (Junell, J.);
    United States v. Williams, 
    602 F.3d 313
    (5th Cir. 2010) (Briones, J.);
    United States v. Garcia-Quintanilla, 
    574 F.3d 295
    (5th Cir. 2009)
    (Martinez, J.) (unpublished);
    United States v. Hernandez, 299 F. App’x 413 (5th Cir. 2008) (Ludlum, J.);
    United States v. Moreno-Florean, 
    542 F.3d 445
    (5th Cir. 2008) (Cardone, J.);
    United States v. Arami, 
    536 F.3d 479
    (5th Cir. 2008) (Sparks, J.);
    United States v. Dentler, 
    492 F.3d 306
    (5th Cir. 2007) (Biery, J.);
    United States v. Coil, 
    442 F.3d 912
    (5th Cir. 2006) (Hudspeth, J.);
    United States v. Johnson, 
    194 F.3d 657
    (5th Cir. 1999) (Smith, J.);
    United States v. Franks, 
    46 F.3d 402
    (5th Cir. 1995) (Nowlin, J.).
    Northern District of Texas:
    United States v. Graves, 409 F. App’x 780 (5th Cir. 2011) (Lindsay, J.);
    United States v. Mudekunye, 
    646 F.3d 281
    (5th Cir. 2011) (O’Connor, J.);
    United States v. John, 
    597 F.3d 263
    (5th Cir. 2010) (Solis, J.);
    United States v. Inman, 
    411 F.3d 591
    (5th Cir. 2005) (Means, J.);
    Anderson v. Siemens Corp., 
    335 F.3d 466
    (5th Cir. 2003) (Lynn, J.);
    Nero v. Indus. Molding Corp., 
    167 F.3d 921
    (5th Cir. 1999) (Cummings, J.);
    United States v. Knowles, 
    29 F.3d 947
    (5th Cir. 1994) (McBryde, J.).
    Eastern District of Louisiana:
    United States v. Washington, 442 F. App’x 130 (5th Cir. 2011) (Vance, J.);
    United States v. McCann, 
    613 F.3d 486
    (5th Cir. 2010) (Fallon, J.);
    Richard v. Martin, 390 F. App’x 323 (5th Cir. 2010) (Africk, J.);
    United States v. Sealed Appellant 1, 
    591 F.3d 812
    (5th Cir. 2009) (McNamara, J.);
    United States v. Severin, 221 F. App’x 299 (5th Cir. 2006) (Lemelle, J.);
    United States v. Ellis, 
    248 F.3d 1139
    (5th Cir. 2001) (Barbier, J.) (unpublished).
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    Western District of Louisiana:
    United States v. Broussard, 
    669 F.3d 537
    (5th Cir. 2012) (Haik, J.);
    United States v. Phillips, 415 F. App’x 557 (5th Cir. 2012) (Minaldi, J.);
    United States v. Sanchez, 
    527 F.3d 463
    (5th Cir. 2008) (Melancon, J.);
    United States v. Loston, 208 F. App’x 340 (5th Cir. 2006) (Hicks, J.);
    United States v. Wilson, 
    116 F.3d 1066
    (5th Cir. 1997) (Walter, J.).
    Middle District of Louisiana:
    United States v. Watkins, 428 F. App’x 343 (5th Cir. 2011) (Brady, J.);
    United States v. Austin, 
    479 F.3d 363
    (5th Cir. 2007) (Polozola, J.).
    Southern District of Mississippi:
    United States v. Adams, 314 F. App’x 633 (5th Cir. 2009) (Jordan, J.);
    United States v. Whitfield, 
    590 F.3d 325
    (5th Cir. 2009) (Wingate, J.);
    United States v. Gordon, 
    346 F.3d 135
    (5th Cir. 2003) (Barbour, J.);
    United States v. McGuire, 
    79 F.3d 1396
    (5th Cir. 1996) (Bramlette, J.).
    Northern District of Mississippi:
    United States v. Starnes, 378 F. App’x 421 (5th Cir. 2010) (Mills, J.);
    United States v. Myers, 
    198 F.3d 160
    (5th Cir. 1999) (Biggers, J.)
    United States v. Beasley, 
    2012 WL 2504996
    (5th Cir. June 27, 2012) (Aycock, J.).
    50
    EMILIO M. GARZA, Circuit Judge, with whom JONES, Chief Judge, and
    KING, SMITH, and CLEMENT, Circuit Judges, join, dissenting:
    The majority inverts the most basic rules of trial practice and turns
    them on their collective heads. The majority holds that a trial practitioner
    who failed to object and specify the grounds for his objection can still take
    advantage of a change in the law on appeal, under a plain error analysis,
    even though the existence of error was unclear at trial. The majority justifies
    its holding by asserting that bending the rule of forfeiture in such cases is
    necessary to prevent grave injustice. But while the Supreme Court has
    recognized two limited exceptions to the forfeiture rule, the Court’s reasons
    for doing so share nothing in common with the exception created by the
    majority in this case. Instead, the majority’s reasoning merely amounts to an
    attack on the wisdom of Rule 52(b)’s plainness requirement. I dissent.
    A
    The contemporaneous-objection rule provides that a litigant must raise an
    objection in the trial court and state the specific grounds for that objection in
    order to preserve error. United States v. Mondragon-Santiago, 
    564 F.3d 357
    , 361
    (5th Cir. 2009). If a litigant fails to preserve error in the trial court, the rule of
    forfeiture generally precludes it from claiming error on appeal. United States v.
    Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 731 (1993).
    Federal courts consistently apply these two most basic rules of error
    preservation, and they have been codified throughout the Federal Rules of
    Procedure and Evidence.        The Supreme Court has long held that “‘[n]o
    procedural principle is more familiar to this Court than that a constitutional
    right,’ or a right of any other sort, ‘may be forfeited in criminal as well as civil
    cases by the failure to make timely assertion of the right before a tribunal
    having jurisdiction to determine it.’” 
    Id. (quoting Yakus v.
    United States, 
    321 U.S. 414
    , 444 (1944)). We have followed suit, holding that “[a] party must raise
    a claim of error with the district court in such a manner so that the district court
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    may correct itself and thus, obviate the need for our review.” Mondragon-
    
    Santiago, 564 F.3d at 361
    (quoting United States v. Rodriguez, 
    15 F.3d 408
    , 414
    (5th Cir. 1994)).
    Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 51(b) codifies these principles for
    federal criminal cases. “Rule 51(b) tells parties how to preserve claims of error:
    ‘by informing the court—when the court ruling or order is made or sought—of
    the action the party wishes the court to take, or the party’s objection to the
    court’s action and the grounds for that objection.’” Puckett v. United States, 
    556 U.S. 129
    , 135 (2009) (quoting FED. R. CRIM. P. 51(b)). In federal criminal cases,
    “[f]ailure to abide by this contemporaneous-objection rule ordinarily precludes
    the raising on appeal of the unpreserved claim of trial error.” 
    Id. (citing United States
    v. Young, 
    470 U.S. 1
    , 15 & n.12 (1985)). The Rules of Criminal Procedure
    also specifically apply these basic rules of error preservation to objections to jury
    instructions. FED. R. CRIM. P. 30 (“A party who objects to any portion of the
    instructions or to a failure to give a requested instruction must inform the court
    of the specific objection and the grounds for the objection before the jury retires
    to deliberate. . . . Failure to object in accordance with this rule precludes
    appellate review, except as permitted under Rule 52(b).”).1
    Accordingly, the contemporaneous-objection rule requires parties to
    preserve their claims of error in the district court; if a party fails to abide by this
    1
    The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure similarly apply these basic rules to challenges
    to jury instructions. Rule 51 of the Rules of Civil Procedure “requires a party to object to jury
    instructions in order to preserve a claim of error for appeal.” Jimenez v. Wood County, Tex.,
    
    660 F.3d 841
    , 844 (5th Cir. 2011) (en banc). Rule 51 further provides that “an objection must
    be made ‘on the record’ and must state ‘distinctly the matter objected to and the grounds for
    the objection.’” 
    Id. at 844–45 (quoting
    FED. R. CIV. P. 51(c)(1)).
    The Federal Rules of Evidence also incorporate the basic rules. See United States v.
    Seale, 
    600 F.3d 473
    , 485 (5th Cir. 2010) (“Fed. R. Evid. 103(a)(1) and the cases interpreting
    that rule establish that when the objection is not specific as to the legal basis for the objection,
    the error is not preserved and can only be reviewed for plain error.”).
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    rule, the forfeiture rule will ordinarily preclude it from raising on appeal any
    unpreserved claim of trial error. 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    .
    B
    There is one important, though narrow, exception to these basic rules in
    federal criminal cases. Specifically, Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 52(b)
    “recognizes a limited exception to” the preclusive effect of failing to preserve
    error at trial.   
    Id. Rule 52(b) provides
    that “[a] plain error that affects
    substantial rights may be considered even though it was not brought to the
    court’s attention.”     The authority Rule 52(b) grants to appellate courts is
    “circumscribed,” as it requires that there was an “error” that was “plain” and
    “affect[s] substantial rights.” 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 732
    . Even “if the above three
    prongs are satisfied, the court of appeals has the discretion to remedy the
    error—discretion which ought to be exercised only if the error seriously affect[s]
    the fairness, integrity or public reputation of judicial proceedings.” 
    Puckett, 556 U.S. at 135
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted) (alteration in
    original).
    The Supreme Court has interpreted Rule 52(b) to excuse a litigant’s failure
    to comply with the contemporaneous-objection rule in only two types of cases.
    Here, however, the majority has interpreted Rule 52(b) to create an exception to
    the otherwise preclusive effect of such a failure in a third category of cases.
    Specifically, the majority concludes that when the law at the time of trial is
    unsettled, but becomes clear while the case is pending on appeal, we should
    assess whether the district court’s error was plain under Rule 52(b) based on the
    law at the time of appeal. The majority offers two primary justifications for its
    holding: one based in law, the other grounded in policy. When subjected to
    scrutiny, however, neither of the majority’s rationales persuades, and it becomes
    clear that the majority has simply created a new form of “plain error” to serve
    its own conception of “justice.”
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    1
    The chief legal justification for the majority’s holding is that a time-of-
    appeal rule will further the purposes of plain error review. In support, the
    majority cites authority from our sister circuits providing that “the focus of plain
    error review should be ‘whether the severity of the error’s harm demands
    reversal,’ and not ‘whether the district court’s action . . . deserves rebuke.’”
    United States v. Farrell, 
    672 F.3d 27
    , 36 (1st Cir. 2012) (quoting United States
    v. Ross, 
    77 F.3d 1525
    , 1539–40 (7th Cir. 1996)). But although those cases may
    describe a portion of the collective focus of all four prongs of plain error review,
    their assessment of the purposes of Rule 52(b) is incomplete.
    In particular, the majority ignores the fact that Rule 52(b) does not merely
    seek to ensure “that justice may be done.” Opinion at 7 (citation omitted).
    Instead, the Rule “reflects a careful balancing of our need to encourage all trial
    participants to seek a fair and accurate trial the first time around against our
    insistence that obvious injustice be promptly redressed.” United States v. Frady,
    
    456 U.S. 152
    , 163 (1982). More important, the majority fails to consider the
    specific role played by the plainness requirement in preserving Rule 52(b)’s
    attempt to balance these competing interests.
    When the specific purpose of the plainness requirement is considered,
    however, it becomes clear that the majority has erroneously expanded Rule
    52(b)’s “circumscribed” exception to the forfeiture rule. That is, a review of
    Supreme Court precedent reveals that the plainness requirement ensures that
    Rule 52(b) only excuses a party’s failure to satisfy the contemporaneous-objection
    rule in two types of cases: where an objection at trial should have been
    unnecessary or would have been futile. Because an objection at trial in this case
    would have been neither unnecessary nor futile, the majority has undermined
    the basic rules of error preservation.
    First, the Court has determined that Rule 52(b) creates an exception to the
    rule of forfeiture where an objection at trial should have been unnecessary due
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    No. 11-40632
    to the obviousness of the error committed in the trial court. As the Supreme
    Court held in Frady, “recourse may be had to . . . Rule [52(b)] only on appeal
    from a trial infected with error so ‘plain’ the trial judge and prosecutor were
    derelict in countenancing it, even absent the defendant’s timely assistance in
    detecting it.” Id.; see United States v. Turman, 
    122 F.3d 1167
    , 1170 (9th Cir.
    1997) (“Plain error, as we understand that term, is error that is so clear-cut, so
    obvious, a competent district judge should be able to avoid it without benefit of
    objection.”) (citing 
    Frady, 456 U.S. at 163
    ). Thus, contrary to the majority’s
    contention that the focus of plain error review is not on whether the district
    court’s action deserves rebuke, the Court’s opinion in Frady indicates that Rule
    52(b) generally creates an exception to the forfeiture rule only in those cases
    where a trial was marred by error so obvious that an objection should not have
    been necessary in order for the district court to have avoided it. 
    Frady, 456 U.S. at 163
    .
    Given the focus of the plainness inquiry on whether error occurred in the
    trial court that was so clear that an objection should have been unnecessary, it
    becomes apparent that the plainness of an error must always be assessed using
    the state of the law at the time of trial except where doing so would not make
    sense. Where, as in this case, the plainness of an error only becomes clear on
    appeal and the law was genuinely uncertain at trial, the proceedings in the trial
    court necessarily could not have been “infected with error so ‘plain’ the trial
    judge and prosecutor were derelict in countenancing it.” Id.; see 
    Turman, 122 F.3d at 1170
    (“When the state of the law is unclear at trial and only becomes
    clear as a result of later authority, the district court’s error is perforce not plain;
    we expect district judges to be knowledgeable, not clairvoyant.”).2
    2
    The Court’s holding in Olano does not create any reason to question the continuing
    applicability of the Court’s conclusion in Frady. United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    (1993).
    In Olano, the Court merely held that “‘plain’ is synonymous with ‘clear’ or, equivalently,
    ‘obvious.’” 
    Id. at 734. The
    Court then noted that it “need not consider the special case where
    (continued...)
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    Second, although the Supreme Court has created one exception to the
    plainness requirement’s time-of-trial rule, the logic behind the Court’s exception
    does not support the majority’s holding in this case. Specifically, in Johnson the
    Court held that “where the law at the time of trial was settled and clearly
    contrary to the law at the time of appeal [] it is enough that an error be ‘plain’
    at the time of appellate consideration.” Johnson v. United States, 
    520 U.S. 461
    ,
    468 (1997). The Court reasoned that a contrary rule, which would require a
    party to object to a district court’s action “even though near uniform precedent
    . . . . held that course proper[,] . . . . would result in counsel’s inevitably making
    a long and virtually useless laundry list of objections to rulings that were plainly
    supported by existing precedent.” Id. Johnson, therefore, merely creates a
    limited exception to the time-of-trial rule in those cases where an objection
    would have been useless in the trial court given the state of the law at the time
    of trial.3
    2
    (...continued)
    the error was unclear at the time of trial but becomes clear on appeal because the applicable
    law has been clarified.” 
    Id. It simply noted
    that “[a]t a minimum, court of appeals cannot
    correct an error pursuant to Rule 52(b) unless the error is clear under current law.” 
    Id. Accordingly, because Olano
    explicitly declined to address this issue, it did nothing to expand
    Rule 52(b)’s exception to the rule of forfeiture.
    3
    Contrary to Judge Owen’s assertion, I do not interpret Johnson to create “an
    exception to Rule 52(b).” Owen Dissent at 1. Rather, I agree with two of our sister circuits
    that “Johnson represents an exception to [Rule 52(b)’s] general rule that error is assessed as
    of the time of trial, an exception Johnson carved out because when the law is settled at the
    time of trial, ‘objections are pointless.’” See United States v. Mouling, 
    557 F.3d 658
    , 664 (D.C.
    Cir. 2009) (quoting 
    Turman, 122 F.3d at 1170
    ). I also disagree with Judge Owen’s contention
    that the Court in Johnson did not base its holding on the fact that a contrary rule “would result
    in counsel’s inevitably making a long and virtually useless laundry list of objections to rulings
    that were plainly supported by existing precedent.” Owen Dissent at 4 (quoting 
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 468
    ). Instead, the Court’s “agreement” with the uselessness of such a rule was the sole
    reason given by the Court for its decision. If the Court was basing its opinion “entirely” on the
    plain language of the statute, it (1) would have said so and (2) would not have been so careful
    to limit its holding to cases “where the law at the time of trial was settled and clearly contrary
    to the law at the time of appeal.” 
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 468
    ; see 
    id. (“Petitioner, on the
    other
    hand, urges that such a rule would result in counsel’s inevitably making a long and virtually
    useless laundry list of objections to rulings that were plainly supported by existing precedent.
    (continued...)
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    Where the law is unclear at trial, however, an objection is not useless.
    Here, for instance, an objection at trial would have been eminently useful
    because it was unclear at that time whether it was error for the district court to
    impose or lengthen Escalante’s prison term in order to promote rehabilitation.
    When Escalante was sentenced, (1) we had not addressed whether district courts
    could impose or lengthen a prison term based on the need for rehabilitation, (2)
    our sister circuits had split on the question, and (3) the Supreme Court had not
    yet decided the issue. See Tapia v. United States, 
    131 S. Ct. 2382
    , 2386 & n.1
    (2011). Accordingly, an objection at sentencing would have served a valuable
    purpose by allowing the district court to avoid a then-unsettled legal issue and
    offer alternative explanations for the length of the sentence imposed. 
    Turman, 122 F.3d at 1170
    (“When the law is such that an experienced district judge
    cannot be expected to detect the error on his own, that is precisely when it is
    most important for the parties to object.”).
    Indeed, in such cases, it is particularly important for counsel to comply
    with the contemporaneous-objection rule: that is, counsel should “raise [their]
    claim of error with the district court in such a manner so that the district court
    may        correct   itself   and   thus,    obviate     the   need     for   our     review.”
    Mondragon-
    Santiago, 564 F.3d at 361
    (citation omitted). See 
    Mouling, 557 F.3d at 664
    (“[W]here the law is unsettled at trial, objections are far from point-
    less—they serve a valuable function, alerting the district court to potential error
    at a moment when the court can take remedial action. Thus the interest in
    requiring parties to present their objections to the trial court, which underlies
    plain error review, applies with full force.”); 
    Turman, 122 F.3d at 1170
    (holding
    that in cases where it was unclear whether error occurred under the law at the
    3
    (...continued)
    We agree with petitioner on this point, and hold that in a case such as this—where the law at
    the time of trial was settled and clearly contrary to the law at the time of appeal—it is enough
    that an error be ‘plain’ at the time of appellate consideration.”).
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    No. 11-40632
    time of trial, “[a]n objection affords the judge an opportunity to focus on the issue
    and hopefully avoid the error, thereby saving the time and expense of an appeal
    and retrial”).
    Accordingly, the legal rationale offered by the majority for creating a new
    exception to the forfeiture rule is not supported by the Supreme Court’s caselaw
    interpreting the plainness requirement. Rather, the majority has created a new
    exception to the forfeiture rule in cases where an objection neither (1) should
    have been unnecessary due to the obviousness of the court’s error, 
    Frady, 456 U.S. at 163
    , nor (2) would have been “virtually useless” given the state of the law
    at trial. 
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 468
    .4
    2
    The majority also offers a policy argument in support of its holding. But
    its argument is unpersuasive because it would equally justify scuttling the
    plainness requirement altogether.
    The majority’s policy argument proceeds as follows: (1) it cites Puckett for
    the proposition that the contemporaneous-objection rule is partially intended to
    prevent a party from “‘sandbagging’ the court—remaining silent about his
    objection and belatedly raising the error only if the case does not conclude in his
    
    favor,” 556 U.S. at 134
    (citations omitted), and (2) it concludes that “in the very
    narrow situation we face here, it is unlikely” that a party would attempt to
    sandbag the district court, “since by waiting to object, the party asserting the
    error would be taking a risk that the appellate court would not rule in its favor
    4
    Contrary to the panel’s opinion in United States v. Knowles, 
    29 F.3d 947
    , 951 (5th Cir.
    1994), the Supreme Court’s opinion in Griffith v. Kentucky, 
    479 U.S. 314
    (1987), does not have
    any bearing on the basic rules of error preservation. In Griffith, the Court held that “a new
    rule for the conduct of criminal prosecutions is to be applied retroactively to all cases, state or
    federal, pending on direct review or not yet final, with no exception for cases in which the new
    rule constitutes a ‘clear break’ with the 
    past.” 479 U.S. at 328
    . However, the petitioners in
    both cases decided in Griffith had preserved their claims of error at trial on the relevant issue.
    
    Id. at 317–19. Accordingly,
    Griffith says nothing about cases where a party failed to preserve
    its claim of error in the district court; instead, it confirms the force of the basic rules, which
    require parties to properly preserve error in order to present a claim on appeal.
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    on the unsettled issue.” Opinion at 7. The majority reasons that its decision will
    not significantly incentivize sandbagging because parties “necessarily would not
    have a crystal ball to know that the Supreme Court would favorably decide a
    case in the interim.” 
    Id. at 8. However,
    this line of reasoning cannot justify the majority’s decision to
    “bend slightly” the rule of forfeiture in only those cases where uncertain error at
    trial becomes clear on appeal.       Rather, the majority’s policy argument is
    indistinguishable from an attack on the applicability of the forfeiture rule in all
    cases where the plainness of an error was uncertain at the time of trial. Put
    another way, the force of the majority’s argument would equally support a
    regime whereby the rule of forfeiture would be excused in all cases where the
    law was uncertain at trial, regardless of whether an intervening case has made
    an error plain. Just as parties lack the ability to predict that an intervening
    Supreme Court opinion will decide an unpreserved claim of error in their favor
    pending appeal when the law at trial was uncertain, they also lack the ability to
    predict how an appellate court will decide an unpreserved issue in their own case
    in the first instance when the law at trial is uncertain. Accordingly, the
    majority’s policy argument does not justify bending the forfeiture rule in this
    context.
    C
    By creating an exception to the forfeiture rule in cases where an objection
    would have served an important function, thereby allowing events after trial to
    affect the existence of trial error, the majority has turned the basic rules of error
    preservation upside down. Moreover, the majority has created this exception out
    of whole cloth, without any reference to the logic behind the exceptions to the
    forfeiture rule that the Supreme Court recognized in Frady and Johnson. Thus,
    the majority has ignored the Court’s warning that “any unwarranted expansion
    of Rule 52(b) . . . would skew the Rule’s careful balancing of our need to
    encourage all trial participants to seek a fair and accurate trial the first time
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    around against our insistence that obvious injustice be promptly redressed.”
    
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 466
    (citations and internal quotation marks omitted).
    The true impetus behind the majority’s decision appears to be that it
    thinks its decision furthers “justice,” while only affecting a small minority of
    plain error cases. See Opinion at 8 (“In the vast majority of plain error cases,
    there will be no intervening Supreme Court decision, meaning that establishing
    a ‘time of appeal’ rule would not significantly alter trial counsel’s incentive to
    object.”). But the purpose of plain error under Rule 52(b) is not merely to
    promote an appellate court’s idea of “justice.” Instead, plain error seeks to
    achieve a balance between redressing obvious injustices and the need to
    incentivize parties to protect their own interests by preserving error in the trial
    court. 
    Frady, 456 U.S. at 163
    . Our adversarial system largely depends on the
    robust incentives we have placed on trial lawyers to preserve a record of their
    objections at trial. An appellate court cannot significantly blunt those incentives
    merely based on its own idea of “justice.”
    Moreover, it may be that the majority has only created a small exception
    to the normal operation of the plainness requirement and that its holding will
    have little effect on a litigant’s incentives to object in the district court.
    However, we lack the authority to create an exception to Rule 52(b)’s plainness
    requirement regardless of its size.     
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 466
    (“Even less
    appropriate than an unwarranted expansion of . . . Rule [52(b)] would be the
    creation out of whole cloth of an exception to it, an exception which we have no
    authority to make.”) (citation omitted). Accordingly, I respectfully dissent.
    60
    OWEN, Circuit Judge, dissenting.
    The reasoning of the Supreme Court’s decision in Johnson v. United
    States1 seems to require that we construe Rule 52(b)2 to mean that “plain error”
    includes error that was plain at the time of appeal even though the law was
    unsettled or unclear at the time of trial. In view of the Supreme Court’s
    interpretation of when error is “plain error” under Rule 52(b), I agree with the
    en banc majority opinion’s conclusion that the district court’s error in consider-
    ing the defendant’s need for an anger management treatment program in
    selecting the length of the sentence to be imposed was “plain error.” However,
    the error does not “seriously affect[] the fairness, integrity or public reputation
    of judicial proceedings” in light of the facts of this case.3 I therefore dissent.
    I
    Rule 52(b) provides, “A plain error that affects substantial rights may be
    considered even though it was not brought to the court’s attention.”4 With great
    respect to JUDGE GARZA and his dissenting opinion in the present case, the
    Supreme Court did not create an “exception” to Rule 52(b) in Johnson v. United
    States. The Court’s decision is very clear that it was construing Rule 52(b) as
    written. Writing for a unanimous Court, CHIEF JUSTICE REHNQUIST said, “[I]t
    is [Rule 52(b)] which by its terms governs direct appeals from judgments of
    conviction in the federal system,” and “We [have] cautioned against any
    unwarranted expansion of Rule 52(b).”5 The CHIEF JUSTICE continued, “Even
    less appropriate than an unwarranted expansion of the Rule would be the
    1
    
    520 U.S. 461
    (1997).
    2
    FED. R. CRIM. P. 52(b).
    3
    Puckett v. United States, 
    556 U.S. 129
    , 135 (2009) (quoting United States v. Olano,
    
    507 U.S. 725
    , 736 (1993)).
    4
    FED. R. CRIM. P. 52(b).
    5
    
    Id. at 466 (citing
    United States v. Young, 
    470 U.S. 1
    (1985)).
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    creation out of whole cloth of an exception to it, an exception which we have no
    authority to make.”6
    The Supreme Court7 then proceeded to construe the meaning of “plain” as
    used in Rule 52(b) as part of its analysis of the second prong of the familiar
    “plain error” construct set forth in United States v. Olano,8 among other cases.
    In Johnson, the Court addressed “when an error must be plain to be
    reviewable.”9        The Court observed that in the case before it, “the error is
    certainly clear under ‘current law,’ but it was by no means clear at the time of
    trial.”10 The error in Johnson was that the district court instructed the jury that
    the issue of materiality in a perjury case was for the court to decide and that the
    district court had determined that the defendant’s statements were material.11
    The district court did not submit this element of the offense to the jury.12 The
    district court’s actions were in compliance with then-existing Circuit precedent.13
    Not only did counsel for the defendant fail to object to the district court’s
    instruction to the jury regarding materiality, counsel for the defense had
    objected when the prosecution had offered evidence regarding materiality,
    6
    
    Id. (citing Carlisle v.
    United States, 
    517 U.S. 416
    , 425-26 (1996)).
    7
    JUSTICE SCALIA did not join in Parts II-B and II-C of the Court’s opinion, which,
    respectively, contain an analysis of when error is “plain” and a discussion of “substantial
    rights.”
    8
    
    507 U.S. 725
    (1993).
    9
    
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 467
    .
    10
    
    Id. 11 Id. at
    464.
    12
    
    Id. 13 Id. at
    464 (citing United States v. Molinares, 
    700 F.3d 647
    , 653 (11th Cir. 1983)).
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    arguing that materiality was an issue for the court to decide rather than the
    jury.14
    The Supreme Court held in Johnson that “where the law at the time of
    trial was settled and clearly contrary to the law at the time of appeal—it is
    enough that an error be ‘plain’ at the time of appellate consideration.”15 The
    Court elaborated, “Here, at the time of trial it was settled that the issue of
    materiality was to be decided by the court, not the jury; by the time of appellate
    consideration, the law had changed, and it is now settled that materiality is an
    issue for the jury.”16 The Court explicitly held that “[t]he second part of the
    Olano test is therefore satisfied.”17 The second part of the Olano test is that the
    error is “plain” within the meaning of Rule 52(b).18 Accordingly, the words “plain
    error” include not only error that was obvious at the time of trial, but error that
    was not considered error at the time of trial. Logically, this leaves no room for
    a definition of “plain error” under Rule 52(b) that excludes error known to be
    error at the time of appeal though the law was unsettled or murky at the time
    of trial. As used in Rule 52(b), “plain error” simply cannot mean two different
    things, depending on whether the law was unclear at the time of trial or had
    changed by the time of appeal. If well-settled law at the time of trial thereafter
    changed and there is “plain error” at the time of appeal, then unclear law at the
    time of trial that has become clear at the time of appeal cannot be excluded from
    the meaning of “plain error.”
    14
    
    Id. 15 Id. at
    468.
    16
    
    Id. 17 Id. 18
              United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 734 (1993) (“The second limitation on appellate
    authority under Rule 52(b) is that the error must be ‘plain.’ ‘Plain’ is synonymous with ‘clear’
    or, equivalently, ‘obvious.’”).
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    Although the Supreme Court did “agree” in Johnson with the argument
    that requiring error to be clear at the time of trial as well as the time of appeal
    “would result in counsel’s inevitably making a long and virtually useless laundry
    list of objections to rulings that were plainly supported by existing precedent,”19
    this reasoning was not an independent basis or justification for the court’s
    decision. It was an argument that supported the Court’s answer to the ultimate
    inquiry, which was “when an error must be plain to be reviewable” within the
    meaning of Rule 52(b).20 The decision in Johnson as to when error must be plain
    rested entirely on the meaning of “plain error” as used in Rule 52(b). It did not
    rest on the common law or an exception to common-law notions or traditions.
    The decision in Johnson regarding the meaning of “plain error” and when error
    is “plain” cannot be explained, or more importantly distinguished, based on
    practicalities or an analysis of trial practices or judicial economy in some
    circumstances as contrasted to others. The Court’s ruling was based, as the
    decision itself says it must be, on the “Rule which by its terms governs direct
    appeals from judgments of convictions in the federal system.”21 That Rule is the
    text of Rule 52(b), nothing more, nothing less. It is worth reiterating the Court’s
    admonition in Johnson: “Even less appropriate than an unwarranted expansion
    of the Rule would be the creation out of whole cloth of an exception to it, an
    exception which we have no authority to make.”22 The Supreme Court has
    spoken regarding the meaning of “plain error.” Unless and until it changes that
    view, the logic of its decision in Johnson should control our interpretation of
    “plain error” and when error is “plain” within the meaning of Rule 52(b).
    19
    
    Johnson, 520 U.S. at 468
    .
    20
    
    Id. at 467. 21
               
    Id. at 466. 22
               
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    II
    Congress has given parameters that constrain courts in the sentencing
    process. One of these is 18 U.S.C. § 3582(a), which provides in pertinent part:
    The court, in determining whether to impose a term of imprison-
    ment, and, if a term of imprisonment is to be imposed, in determin-
    ing the length of the term, shall consider the factors set forth in
    section 3553(a) to the extent that they are applicable, recognizing
    that imprisonment is not an appropriate means of promoting
    correction and rehabilitation.
    I agree with the en banc majority opinion that the district court improp-
    erly considered the need for rehabilitation in selecting the length of the sentence
    it imposed. However, it is not clear from the record before us that this error
    affected substantial rights. There were other considerations that appeared to
    support the sentence selected. But even assuming that substantial rights were
    affected, our court should not exercise its discretion to correct the error.
    The fourth prong of Olano is that the error “seriously affect[s] the fairness,
    integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings.”23 In the present case, the
    advisory Guidelines sentencing range was 63 to 78 months of imprisonment.
    Escalante-Reyes received a below-Guidelines sentence of 60 months of
    imprisonment. He had a prior criminal history and a history of abuse of family
    members. The district court identified factors other than the need for rehabilita-
    tion that would amply support the reasonableness of a sentence of 60 months in
    prison. Under these circumstances, there has been no serious effect on the
    fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings.
    *****
    I respectfully dissent.
    23
    United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 732 (1993) (alteration in original) (emphasis
    added) (quoting United States v. Young, 
    470 U.S. 1
    , 15 (1985)).
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