United States v. Alvarez ( 2022 )


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  • Case: 21-40091     Document: 00516393399          Page: 1    Date Filed: 07/13/2022
    United States Court of Appeals
    for the Fifth Circuit                          United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    FILED
    July 13, 2022
    No. 21-40091                  Lyle W. Cayce
    Clerk
    United States of America,
    Plaintiff—Appellee,
    versus
    Andres Manuel Alvarez,
    Defendant—Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Texas
    USDC No. 2:20-CR-41-1
    Before Jones, Higginson, and Duncan, Circuit Judges.
    Stuart Kyle Duncan, Circuit Judge:
    During a roundup of gang members with outstanding warrants,
    Corpus Christi police were given information describing one suspect only as
    a “Hispanic male” who had “run from officers” on a “bicycle with large
    handlebars” in the “area of Leopard and Up River” at some unspecified time
    in the past. The officers had nothing else—not the suspect’s photo, his age,
    his build, his clothing, or any other identifying features. Nor were they told
    when the suspect had last been seen in the area. Nor were they told anything
    about the bicycle other than it had “large handlebars.”
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    Armed with this meager description, the police soon found a person
    who fit it: Andres Alvarez, who was riding a bicycle with large handlebars in
    the noted area. Alvarez at first ignored the officers, but he was soon stopped
    and a frisk revealed he had a revolver and ammo. The officers later
    determined Alvarez was not the Hispanic male on a bicycle they were looking
    for. The government then charged Alvarez with being a felon in possession,
    and Alvarez moved to suppress the evidence against him. The district court
    denied the motion, holding the officers had reasonable suspicion for the stop.
    Reasonable suspicion to stop someone suspected of criminal activity
    is a low threshold, but not this low. Our cases require officers to have
    information more specific than “a Hispanic male who once rode away from
    police on a bicycle with large handlebars in a particular area,” especially in
    Corpus Christi, Texas. That open-ended description would effectively
    authorize random police stops, something the Fourth Amendment abhors.
    See generally Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
     (1968). Our dissenting colleague
    sharply disagrees with our analysis. Post at 1–9. But as we explain below, infra
    pp. 16–17, nn.6–7, 10, 13, 15–16, the dissent is mistaken.
    We reverse the denial of Alvarez’s motion to suppress, vacate his
    conviction and sentence, and remand for further proceedings.
    I.
    On July 15, 2019, federal and Texas law enforcement conducted a
    state-wide “roundup” of known gang members with outstanding warrants.
    Officer Martin Deleon, a thirty-two-year Corpus Christi Police Department
    veteran with twenty-eight years in the gang unit, led a team of about a dozen
    officers. Each team received a packet of fifteen to twenty subjects grouped
    geographically.
    One subject in the Deleon team’s packet was described as a “Hispanic
    male” in the “area of Leopard and Up River.” The information stated the
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    subject “may be in the area on a bicycle and that he had run from officers in
    the past [o]n that bicycle.” It described the bicycle only as having “large
    handlebars.” But the officers did not know anything about the bicycle’s color
    or condition or whether it had other identifiers like pegs or distinctive tires.
    Nor did the officers know the subject’s age, body type, or build; whether he
    had identifying marks or features; what he was last seen wearing; or when he
    was last seen in the area.
    The officers searched for the subject in an apartment complex in the
    Leopard–Up River area but could not find him, so they left for another
    location. Officer Deleon and his partner drove in a marked patrol car down
    Old Robstown Road toward Up River Road, an area known for gang activity.
    They saw a man who fit the subject’s description riding a bicycle with large
    handlebars on the sidewalk approaching the intersection from the opposite
    side of Up River Road. The suspect turned left, and the officers turned right,
    so they were traveling parallel on Up River, with a lane of oncoming traffic
    between them. The officers pulled alongside the suspect, and Deleon honked
    the horn and shouted, “stop, pull over[!]” The suspect asked, “Why?” and
    kept pedaling.
    After the suspect traveled about seventy-five yards, the officers pulled
    ahead of him and blocked the sidewalk. The suspect laid his bicycle down,
    and the officers grabbed him. They placed him against the car and frisked
    him, finding a revolver on his waistband and ammunition in his pocket. They
    cuffed him and put him in their car.
    The officers could not immediately identify their detainee. Deleon did
    not recall the name of the wanted gang member described in the packet. The
    team apparently had been looking for Jose Morales, “the third or fourth guy
    on the list.” The officers later learned that they had instead detained Alvarez,
    a convicted felon, who himself had an outstanding warrant.
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    A grand jury indicted Alvarez on one count of being a felon in
    possession of a firearm and ammunition. See 
    18 U.S.C. §§ 922
    (g)(1),
    924(a)(2). Alvarez moved to suppress the revolver and ammo, arguing the
    officers unlawfully stopped him. At an evidentiary hearing, Deleon testified
    for the government, and Alvarez introduced bodycam footage from an officer
    who arrived on scene after the seizure, as well as photographs and maps of
    the area.
    The district court denied Alvarez’s motion, holding the stop was
    supported by reasonable suspicion. United States v. Alvarez, No. 2:20-CR-41,
    
    2020 WL 5984078
    , at *2 (S.D. Tex. Oct. 8, 2020). It reasoned: “Alvarez
    matched the description of the subject who had an outstanding warrant. He
    was a Hispanic male, he rode a bicycle with particularly large handlebars, and
    he was spotted in the area where the subject was known to reside.” 
    Ibid.
     The
    court added that “collectively,” these factors were “not so general as to
    negate reasonable suspicion.” 
    Ibid.
     (citing United States v. Lawson, 233 F.
    App’x 367, 370 (5th Cir. 2007) (per curiam)).1
    Alvarez entered a conditional guilty plea pursuant to an agreement
    that reserved his right to appeal the suppression ruling. See Fed. R. Crim.
    P. 11(a)(2). The district court sentenced him to time served. Alvarez timely
    appealed.
    1
    The government had also argued that Alvarez’s riding his bicycle on the sidewalk
    violated a city ordinance, which justified the stop. But evidence showed the area where the
    stop occurred was not covered by the ordinance. After the hearing, the government argued
    that regardless of that point, the stop fell within the good-faith exception to the exclusionary
    rule. See United States v. Williams, 
    622 F.2d 830
    , 840 (5th Cir. 1980) (en banc). The district
    court observed that the officers “believed, incorrectly, that riding the bike on that sidewalk
    was a violation of a city ordinance.” Alvarez, 
    2020 WL 5984078
    , at *1. Finding reasonable
    suspicion supported the stop based on the description of the wanted suspect, the court did
    not reach whether the good-faith exception applied as to the ordinance. 
    Id.
     at *1 n.2.
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    II.
    In reviewing the denial of a motion to suppress, we review factual
    findings for clear error and legal conclusions de novo. United States v.
    McKinney, 
    980 F.3d 485
    , 491 (5th Cir. 2020) (citation omitted). Whether
    officers had reasonable suspicion to support an investigative stop is a
    question of law. United States v. Burgos-Coronado, 
    970 F.3d 613
    , 618 (5th Cir.
    2020) (citation omitted). We view the evidence in the light most favorable to
    the prevailing party—here, the government. United States v. Thomas, 
    997 F.3d 603
    , 609 (5th Cir. 2021) (citation omitted). We will uphold the district
    court’s ruling “if there is any reasonable view of the evidence to support it.”
    United States v. Michalik, 
    5 F.4th 583
    , 588 (5th Cir. 2021) (citation omitted).
    III.
    Alvarez challenges only whether the officers had reasonable suspicion
    for the stop; he does not challenge the frisk. He argues the description of the
    wanted gang member was too general and the detail about past flight from
    police on the bicycle was too “sparse” and potentially “stale.” The
    government relies on the description of the subject and the bicycle, the
    location, and the officers’ knowledge of gang activity in the area.2
    A.
    The Fourth Amendment provides:
    2
    Alvarez also argues that the officers’ mistaken belief that he violated the
    ordinance was objectively unreasonable. See supra note 1. The government does not
    contend the officers’ mistake was reasonable, relying solely on the officers’ having
    reasonable suspicion that Alvarez was the wanted suspect on their list. The government
    therefore has forfeited any argument of mistake about the ordinance. See, e.g., United States
    v. Aguilar-Alonzo, 
    944 F.3d 544
    , 552 (5th Cir. 2019); United States v. Guillen-Cruz, 
    853 F.3d 768
    , 777 (5th Cir. 2017).
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    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
    papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
    seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but
    upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and
    particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
    persons or things to be seized.
    U.S. Const. amend. IV. The exclusionary rule, a judicially created
    deterrence measure, provides that evidence obtained by an unreasonable
    search or seizure generally may not be used as evidence of guilt at trial. See
    Mapp v. Ohio, 
    367 U.S. 643
    , 655 (1961); Weeks v. United States, 
    232 U.S. 383
    ,
    393 (1914). Warrantless searches and seizures are per se unreasonable subject
    to certain narrow exceptions. Cotropia v. Chapman, 
    978 F.3d 282
    , 286 (5th
    Cir. 2020) (quoting United States v. Kelly, 
    302 F.3d 291
    , 293 (5th Cir. 2002)).
    The government bears the burden of showing an exception applies. United
    States v. Roberts, 
    612 F.3d 306
    , 309 (5th Cir. 2010) (quoting United States v.
    Waldrop, 
    404 F.3d 365
    , 368 (5th Cir. 2005)).
    One exception permits officers to conduct brief investigatory stops
    based on reasonable suspicion that the person is engaged in criminal activity
    or wanted in connection with a completed felony. United States v. Hensley,
    
    469 U.S. 221
    , 229 (1985); Terry, 
    392 U.S. at
    27–31; see also United States v.
    Michelletti, 
    13 F.3d 838
    , 840 (5th Cir. 1994) (en banc). A seizure “must be
    ‘justified at its inception.’” Thomas, 997 F.3d at 609 (quoting Hiibel v. Sixth
    Jud. Dist. Ct., 
    542 U.S. 177
    , 185 (2004)). Reasonable suspicion therefore
    “must exist before the initiation of an investigatory detention.” 
    Ibid.
     (quoting
    McKinney, 980 F.3d at 490).
    Reasonable suspicion “is a low threshold, requiring” only a “minimal
    level of objective justification.” United States v. Castillo, 
    804 F.3d 361
    , 367
    (5th Cir. 2015) (quoting United States v. Sokolow, 
    490 U.S. 1
    , 7 (1989)). But it
    “must be founded on specific and articulable facts rather than on a mere
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    suspicion or ‘hunch.’” United States v. Hill, 
    752 F.3d 1029
    , 1033 (5th Cir.
    2014) (quoting United States v. Sanders, 
    994 F.2d 200
    , 203 (5th Cir. 1993)).
    Reasonable suspicion “takes into account the totality of the circumstances—
    the whole picture.” Kansas v. Glover, 
    140 S. Ct. 1183
    , 1191 (2020) (quoting
    Prado Navarette v. California, 
    572 U.S. 393
    , 397 (2014)).
    “Whether an officer has reasonable suspicion to stop is answered
    from the facts known to the officer at the time.” United States v. Vickers, 
    540 F.3d 356
    , 361 (5th Cir. 2008). Relevant facts and considerations may include
    a description of a suspect, a suspect’s location and proximity to known or
    reported criminal activity, the timeliness of information or the stop, a
    suspect’s behavior, and the officer’s experience. See, e.g., Illinois v. Wardlow,
    
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124 (2000); Thomas, 997 F.3d at 610–11; McKinney, 980 F.3d
    at 491–95; Vickers, 
    540 F.3d at 361
    . Facts that appear innocent when viewed
    in isolation can constitute reasonable suspicion when viewed collectively.
    United States v. Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    , 277 (2002).
    A physical description of a suspect known to officers must be
    sufficiently specific and particularized to justify an investigatory stop. See,
    e.g., Goodson v. City of Corpus Christi, 
    202 F.3d 730
    , 736–38 (5th Cir. 2000).
    “Terry does not authorize broad dragnets . . . . Without more, a description
    that applies to large numbers of people will not justify the seizure of a
    particular individual.” United States v. Street, 
    917 F.3d 586
    , 594 (7th Cir.
    2019) (citing United States v. Turner, 
    699 A.2d 1125
    , 1128–29 (D.C. 1997));
    see also Reid v. Georgia, 
    448 U.S. 438
    , 441 (1980) (rejecting justification that
    would “describe a very large category of presumably innocent” persons).
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    A general, imprecise physical description of a suspect, standing alone,
    is insufficient to support reasonable suspicion.3 For example, in United States
    v. Jones, 
    619 F.2d 494
    , 496, 498 (5th Cir. 1980), an officer stopped a man
    matching “the general description that he had heard over the police radio the
    day before” of “a black male, 5 feet 6 inches to 5 feet 9 inches tall and
    weighing between 150 and 180 pounds, with a medium afro hair style, who
    was wearing jeans and a long denim jacket.” (The information reported by
    the police radio was in fact five weeks old. See 
    id. at 496
    .) We found no
    reasonable suspicion because the officer “acted on the basis of an incomplete
    and stale description of a suspect that could, plainly, have fit many people.”
    
    Id. at 498
    . Similarly, in United States v. Rias, 
    524 F.2d 118
    , 119 (5th Cir. 1975),
    an officer stopped two black males in a black Chevrolet, knowing that “two
    black males in a black or blue Chevrolet were suspects in a series of Farm
    Store robberies” a few weeks prior. We held the facts “clearly did not rise to
    the required level, and in reality were so tenuous as to provide virtually no
    grounds whatsoever for suspicion,” because “[t]he officer was unsure
    3
    See, e.g., United States v. Bailey, 
    743 F.3d 322
    , 349 (2d Cir. 2014) (“[G]eneric
    descriptions of race, gender, and build, without more, have been held insufficient to justify
    reasonable suspicion.”); United States v. Clarkson, 
    551 F.3d 1196
    , 1201 (10th Cir. 2009)
    (noting “general descriptions of suspects or vehicles . . . standing alone . . . will not support
    a finding of reasonable suspicion” (citations omitted)); United States v. Goddard, 
    491 F.3d 457
    , 464 (D.C. Cir. 2007) (Brown, J., dissenting) (“[G]eneric racial descriptions devoid of
    distinctive individualized details cannot, without more, provide police adequate
    justification for a Terry stop.”); 4 Wayne R. LaFave, Search and Seizure: A
    Treatise on the Fourth Amendment § 9.5(j), Westlaw (database updated Dec.
    2021) (noting a stop is impermissible if “the description provided in the [police] bulletin
    was so general and vague as to not permit a reasonable degree of selectivity in the making
    of stops for the purpose of finding the person wanted”); William E. Ringel,
    Searches and Seizures, Arrests and Confessions § 13:22 (2d ed.),
    Westlaw (database updated Mar. 2022) (noting a “description must contain more than
    general characteristics that could fit any number of people” and “[i]f the description is too
    vague . . . , the stop will be invalidated”).
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    whether the automobile used in the robberies was black or blue; the only
    description of the robbers was that they were black males; . . . [and] it was not
    unusual for blacks to be seen in the area.” Id. at 121.
    A less specific description may support reasonable suspicion where
    there is temporal and geographic proximity to recent criminal activity. 4
    LaFave, supra note 3, § 9.5(h).4 In Vickers, officers received a report of a
    recent burglary by a “black male last seen wearing red shirt, blue or black
    shorts.” 
    540 F.3d at 361
    . We held the officers had reasonable suspicion to
    stop a man “wearing clothing that met the description” found “75 to 100
    yards from the burglarized home.” 
    Ibid.
     Similarly, in United States v. Hall,
    
    557 F.2d 1114
    , 1115–16 (5th Cir. 1977), a police dispatch reported an armed
    robbery by three men—two black and one either black with a light
    complexion or white—who fled in a red 1969 two-door Ford. An officer
    stopped “a red 1969 Ford driven by a light complexioned black male,
    proceeding away from the vicinity of a bank robbery within twenty minutes
    after the robbery.” 
    Id.
     at 1116–17. We upheld the stop, emphasizing that
    “[t]he most important factors” were “the timing of the initial stop and its
    location.” 
    Id. at 1117
    .
    4
    See United States v. Edwards, 
    469 F.2d 1362
    , 1365 (5th Cir. 1972) (upholding stop
    where officer “had personally observed the appellants’ car in the vicinity of two armed
    robberies shortly after the crimes had been committed [and] [t]he occupants fit the sex and
    race of the robbers and the driver was wearing a bush hat, a distinctive item of apparel
    described by one of the victims”); see also, e.g., Irvin v. Richardson, 
    20 F.4th 1199
    , 1205 (8th
    Cir. 2021) (“[A] person’s temporal and geographic proximity to a crime scene, combined
    with a matching description of the suspect, can support a finding of reasonable suspicion.”
    (collecting cases)); Humbert v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore City, 
    866 F.3d 546
    , 559–
    60 (4th Cir. 2017) (“Courts have typically found reasonable suspicion to stop . . . an
    individual who closely resembles a description or composite sketch when that resemblance
    is combined with both geographic and temporal proximity.” (collecting cases)).
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    Accordingly, our case law distinguishes between stops related to
    completed crimes and stops related to ongoing crimes or crimes very recently
    committed. See Jones, 
    619 F.2d at 498
     (distinguishing case from those
    “where an officer has acted upon timely information of criminal activity”
    (citing Hall, 
    557 F.2d 1114
    )); see also United States v. Lopez, 
    907 F.3d 472
    , 485
    (7th Cir. 2018) (rejecting “application of those cases involving urgent
    situations to the cold surveillance involved here”).
    B.
    The officers’ stop of Alvarez was not supported by reasonable
    suspicion. This case involves an outstanding warrant—completed criminal
    activity—so the information the officers relied on must satisfy a higher level
    of specificity than if they were responding to a report of ongoing or very
    recent criminal activity. See Jones, 
    619 F.2d at 498
    ; Hall, 
    557 F.2d at 1114
    .5
    The government cannot clear this hurdle under our precedent. If a weeks-old
    description of two black males in a black or blue Chevrolet was insufficient to
    stop two black males in a black Chevrolet, Rias, 
    524 F.2d at
    119–21, and a
    five-week-old description of a man’s race, height, weight, hair style, and
    clothing was insufficient to stop someone matching it, Jones, 
    619 F.2d at 496, 498
    , then the description of a Hispanic male who had once ridden a bicycle
    with large handlebars in a general area at some unknown time in the past
    5
    See also 4 LaFave, supra note 3 (observing “it would be incorrect to assume that
    a wanted-man bulletin concerning a past crime need be no more specific than those
    descriptions often held to suffice as to stops made in the vicinity of a crime very recently
    committed” (citing Rias, 
    524 F.2d 118
    )). At oral argument, the government claimed there
    was an “ongoing situation” with “ongoing crime” because the subject is in a “constant,
    perpetual state of being wanted until he is captured.” O.A. Rec. 26:50–27:07, available at
    https://coa.circ5.dcn/OralArgRecordings/21/21-40091_1-5-2022.mp3. We disagree.
    Even assuming there is a basis for such a theory, the government introduced no evidence
    about the crime for which the subject gang member was wanted or when the crime was
    committed. See 
    id.
     at 24:25–24:45, 27:07–27:28.
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    cannot justify the stop of Alvarez.6 To explain why this is so, we consider in
    detail each factor relied on by the government—the description of the subject
    and the bicycle, the location, and the officers’ knowledge of local gang
    activity.7
    The subject’s physical description was too general and vague. The
    officers did not have a photograph and did not otherwise “know what [the
    suspect] looked like.” Other than race and sex, they knew of no descriptors—
    age, height, weight, identifying marks, or clothing. See supra note 3; cf. United
    States ex rel. Kirby v. Sturges, 
    510 F.2d 397
    , 401 (7th Cir. 1975) (rejecting
    argument that “police bulletin relied upon was too vague and overbroad in
    its description of the wanted man” because it had “a picture of the wanted
    man as well as a description of his physical characteristics”). “Hispanic” has
    negligible predictive value here given Corpus Christi is predominantly
    Hispanic or Latino.8 Put simply, the physical description “fit too many
    6
    The government ignores our decisions in Jones and Rias. And at oral argument,
    the government could not identify any case that supports its position that the description
    supported reasonable suspicion. O.A. Rec. 17:43–18:18 (“We don’t have a best case for
    description.”). Contrary to the dissent’s claims, we have not misapplied Jones and Rias.
    Post at 3. Those cases directly show why the physical description here was inadequate to
    support the stop. Indeed, the dissent acknowledges that “Jones and Rias suggest only that
    the description of Alvarez, by itself, would be insufficient.” Post at 3. The dissent would
    distinguish those cases, however, by pointing to other information the government relies
    on, as well as some information it does not. Post at 3–4. But, as we explain below, that other
    information was inadequate to justify the stop. So, contrary to the dissent, Jones and Rias
    are “dispositive.” Post at 3.
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    Given our analysis of multiple factors, we disagree with our dissenting colleague
    that we ignore the “totality of the circumstances” and instead “narrowly” focus “solely”
    on the “suspect’s physical description.” Post at 1–4. In reality, the dissent disagrees with
    our assessment of the additional factors, to which we respond below. Moreover, the dissent
    adds another factor—the fleeing-the-police notion—which is unsupported by the record
    and has, in any event, been forfeited by the government. See infra pp. 16–17.
    8
    Corpus Christi is 63.8% Hispanic or Latino. QuickFacts: Corpus Christi City,
    Texas,                     U.S.                   Census                      Bureau,
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    people[] to constitute particular, articulable facts on which to base reasonable
    suspicion.” Goodson, 
    202 F.3d at
    737 (citing Jones, 
    619 F.2d at
    497–98; and
    Rias, 524 F.3d at 121); see also, e.g., United States v. Arthur, 
    764 F.3d 92
    , 98
    (1st Cir. 2014) (observing a “physical description of a black man in dark,
    heavy clothing . . . would likely be insufficient to give rise to reasonable
    suspicion” because it “might fit a significant percentage of the local
    population on a late October day”).
    The same is true of the bicycle. Other than “large handlebars,” the
    officers knew of no identifiers—color, make, model, condition, features, or
    style of handlebars. “Large handlebars” pales in comparison to vehicle
    descriptions that have created or contributed to reasonable suspicion. 9
    Furthermore, when asked if certain types of large handlebars were “more
    prevalent in that area,” Officer Deleon answered, “most bikes have regular
    handlebars. Those there . . . will stand out . . . because they’re not normal.”
    “But the success or failure of a suppression motion cannot hinge on an officer
    saying, in essence, ‘I know it when I see it.’” United States v. Drakeford, 
    992 F.3d 255
    , 267 (4th Cir. 2021) (Wynn, J., concurring). Unable to point to
    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/corpuschristicitytexas (last visited July 13, 2022); see
    Hollinger v. Home State Mut. Ins. Co., 
    654 F.3d 564
    , 571–72 (5th Cir. 2011) (“United States
    census data is an appropriate and frequent subject of judicial notice.” (collecting cases)).
    9
    See United States v. Jaquez, 
    421 F.3d 338
    , 340–41 (5th Cir. 2005) (per curiam)
    (holding “red vehicle” was too “sparse and broadly generic” to stop a red car in vicinity
    of shooting fifteen minutes later because officer had no other “particular information about
    the vehicle, such as its make or model, or any description of its occupant(s)”); cf. United
    States v. Campbell, 
    178 F.3d 345
    , 347–48 (5th Cir. 1999) (upholding stop where person
    “matched the physical description” of bank robber and “was approaching a car that
    matched a detailed description of the getaway vehicle and bore the same license plate,”
    specifically “a late 1980s, black Chevrolet Cavalier with Tennessee license plate
    600TTP”); cf. also United States v. Brown, 558 F. App’x 386, 392 (5th Cir. 2014) (per
    curiam) (upholding stop where victim identified truck as “look[ing] just like” suspects’
    truck and it “matched the make, model, and color” and had the same license plates).
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    specific identifiers, the government has not shown that Alvarez’s handlebars
    were sufficiently distinctive to create reasonable suspicion. See United States
    v. Jones, 
    998 F.2d 883
    , 885 (10th Cir. 1993) (holding “flimsy” description of
    two black men in black Mercedes did not support stop “based solely on the
    color and manufacturer of the car, and the fact that it contained two black
    men,” particularly with no showing that “the sight of two African–
    Americans in a black Mercedes was a highly unusual event”).10
    The location fares no better. The officers knew only that the subject
    had previously been seen in the Leopard–Up River area and “may be” there.
    They had no information whatsoever about where in the area he had been
    seen11 or when he had been seen there—whether “that day,” “the day
    10
    The dissent argues we should defer to Officer Deleon’s view that the descriptor
    “large handlebars” was specific enough to equate Alvarez’s bicycle with the wanted
    suspect’s. Post at 4. We disagree. As explained, this vague description is nowhere close to
    the kind of vehicle descriptions that would support reasonable suspicion. And, contrary to
    the dissent, there is nothing “illogical” in relying on automobile cases. Post at 4. If the
    description of a “red vehicle” involved in a shooting fifteen minutes ago is too generic to
    support stopping any red car in the vicinity, Jaquez, 
    421 F.3d at
    340–41, then so is the
    description of a bicycle with “large handlebars” from an unknown time in the past.
    Moreover, the dissent offers no basis in the record for speculating that bicycles
    “are far less numerous—and therefore more readily identifiable—on the streets that
    automobiles” or that “large handlebars” are “more akin to a very distinctive hood
    ornament or wheel covers” than to a car’s color, make, or model. Post at 4. Moreover, as
    discussed at oral argument, the government could have bolstered the record on any of these
    points—say, by putting into the record what the suspect’s bicycle looked like, why it was
    similar to Alvarez’s, or why “large handlebar” bikes are distinctive—but it failed to do so.
    O.A. Rec. 27:08–27:29, 30:12–30:22, 33:38–33:57 (panel members questioning government
    about “shortcomings” in the record); see, e.g., United States v. Rangel-Portillo, 
    586 F.3d 376
    ,
    382 (5th Cir. 2009) (finding most “indicative of a stop lacking in reasonable suspicion . . . in
    this case . . . is what is missing from the record”); United States v. Lopez-Valdez, 
    178 F.3d 282
    , 287–88 (5th Cir. 1999) (reversing denial of suppression motion based on government’s
    failure to introduce evidence of relevant reasonable-suspicion factors).
    11
    The government claims the location was a “narrow geographic area.” O.A. Rec.
    16:42–50, 17:16–23. Despite admitting “the record describes [the area] in different ways,”
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    before,” or “the week before.” Nor did they have reason to believe he might
    still have been in the area—for example, if he resided there.12 See Jones, 
    619 F.2d at 498
     (finding description of suspect from robbery five weeks ago
    “stale”); see also United States v. Longmire, 
    761 F.2d 411
    , 420 (7th Cir. 1985)
    (discussing staleness of information in police bulletins).13
    The government also relies on the area being known by the officers for
    gang activity. It is true that “officers are not required to ignore the relevant
    characteristics of a location in determining whether the circumstances are
    sufficiently suspicious to warrant further investigation,” and so “the fact that
    the stop occurred in a ‘high crime area’ [is] among the relevant contextual
    considerations in a Terry analysis.” Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at
    124 (citing Adams
    v. Williams, 
    407 U.S. 143
    , 144, 147–48 (1972)); see also United States v.
    Flowers, 
    6 F.4th 651
    , 656 (5th Cir. 2021) (same) (citing Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 124
    ). Still, “[a]n individual’s presence in an area of expected criminal
    it insists “the most specific description is that it was just . . . the intersection of Leopard
    and Up River.” 
    Id.
     at 16:50–17:06. The record does not limit the description to the
    intersection, however. Officer Deleon loosely described the area, and before spotting
    Alvarez, the officers had been looking for the subject in a nearby apartment complex.
    12
    The district court erroneously stated the subject was “known to reside” in the
    area. Alvarez, 
    2020 WL 5984078
    , at *2. This finding is wholly unsupported by the record.
    See United States v. Castillo, 
    430 F.3d 230
    , 243–44 (5th Cir. 2005). The government
    confirmed this at oral argument. See O.A. Rec. 35:22–36:06 (“There was no testimony
    specifically to [the subject’s] residence.”). The officers knew only that the subject had been
    seen in the area and so they believed he might be there.
    13
    The dissent claims we require officers to “know exactly when and where the
    subject had previously been seen.” Post at 5. Our opinion imposes no such requirement. All
    we say is that the bare-bones location the officers had—that a Hispanic male was once seen
    riding a bike near an intersection at some unspecified time in the past—was not enough to
    create reasonable suspicion. One strains even to call this information “stale” because there
    is nothing in the record to suggest when the suspect was last seen near the intersection (a
    week ago? a month? a year? three years?). Cf., e.g., Jones, 
    619 F.2d at 498
     (for purposes of
    a Terry stop, contrasting a five-week-old “incomplete and stale description of a suspect”
    with “timely information of criminal activity”).
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    activity, standing alone, is not enough to support a reasonable, particularized
    suspicion that the person is committing a crime.” Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at
    124
    (citing Brown v. Texas, 
    443 U.S. 47
     (1979)). Something more is needed—
    some observed fact beyond the person’s mere presence that gives an officer
    “reasonable, articulable suspicion that the person has been, is, or is about to
    be engaged in criminal activity.” Vickers, 
    540 F.3d at 361
     (quoting Hensley,
    
    469 U.S. at 227
    ).14 That is where the government stumbles. Beyond
    Alvarez’s presence in a high-crime area, it points to no fact suggesting that
    Alvarez “ha[d] been, [wa]s, or [wa]s about to be engaged in criminal
    activity.” Ibid.15
    14
    See also, e.g., McKinney, 980 F.3d at 492 (holding officers’ awareness of recent
    gang shootings in area did not create reasonable suspicion because they had no “articulable
    suspicion about a connection between the person [stopped] and those crimes”); Thomas,
    997 F.3d at 610 (Terry stop justified if officers have “a particularized and objective basis for
    suspecting the particular person stopped of criminal activity,” a standard satisfied “if
    specific and articulable facts give rise to a suspicion that the person stopped has committed,
    is committing, or is about to commit a crime” (internal quotation marks omitted) (first
    quoting United States v. Cortez, 
    449 U.S. 411
    , 417–18 (1981); then quoting United States v.
    Monsivais, 
    848 F.3d 353
    , 357 (5th Cir. 2017))).
    15
    The dissent incorrectly asserts that our analysis “shrink[s] the boundaries
    articulated in Wardlow and disabl[es] officers from responding in high crime areas.” Post at
    6. To the contrary, we recognize—along with the Supreme Court and our precedents—
    that a person’s presence in a high crime area, while relevant, is not enough standing alone to
    create reasonable suspicion for a Terry stop. Something more is needed, and on this record,
    it is lacking.
    The dissent is also mistaken that we “did not” mention that “Alvarez’s stop was
    the result of a coordinated ‘roundup’ of gang members.” Post at 7. Literally the first words
    of our opinion are: “During a roundup of gang members with outstanding warrants . . . .”
    Supra p. 1. Nor does our opinion slight the “enhanced danger to police officers” during
    gang roundups, as the dissent claims. Post at 7. This case has nothing to do with officers’
    settled right to frisk suspects who have been properly stopped. Alvarez does not even
    contest the frisk. This case is solely about whether the stop preceding the frisk was
    supported by reasonable suspicion. See, e.g., Arizona v. Johnson, 
    555 U.S. 323
    , 326–27
    (2009) (“[T]o proceed from a stop to a frisk, the police officer must reasonably suspect that
    the person stopped is armed and dangerous.” (emphasis added)). The dissent’s cited cases
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    Finally, our dissenting colleague asserts that the stop was justified
    because Alvarez “fle[d],” “abscond[ed],” and “deliberately evaded” the
    officers. Post at 2, 4 n.6, 8. Not so. If any of that were true, this case would be
    governed by Illinois v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    . There, Wardlow—while
    standing in an area known for drug dealing and “holding an opaque bag”—
    saw patrolling officers and “fled,” running through a “gangway and an alley”
    before being stopped. 
    Id.
     at 121–22. This “[h]eadlong flight” was, the Court
    explained, “the consummate act of evasion[,]” justifying the officers “in
    suspecting that Wardlow was involved in criminal activity.” 
    Id.
     at 124–25.
    Wardlow is nothing like this case. Alvarez was not “absconding” or
    “fleeing” from the police—he was already riding his bicycle when Officer
    Deleon spotted him, and he ignored the officers and kept riding when asked
    to stop. He had every right to do so. See 
    id. at 125
     (“[W]hen an officer,
    without reasonable suspicion or probable cause, approaches an individual,
    the individual has a right to ignore the police and go about his business.”
    (citing Florida v. Royer, 
    460 U.S. 491
    , 498 (1983))). So, “this is not a case of
    headlong flight at the mere sight of a police officer.” Hill, 752 F.3d at 1037
    (cleaned up). The dissent is thus mistaken in saying our analysis “is in serious
    tension” with Wardlow or any other case involving unprovoked flight or
    evasive behavior. Post at 4 n.6, 5. If there were any doubt, the government
    conceded at oral argument that this case is not Wardlow. See O.A. Rec. 19:25–
    19:34 (“I understand this is not the same as flight. I am not suggesting this
    support the basic distinction between a stop and a frisk, as each case primarily concerned a
    frisk. See post at 7–8 (citing United States v. Rideau, 
    969 F.2d 1572
    , 1576 (5th Cir. 1992) (en
    banc); Michelletti, 
    13 F.3d at 844
    ; and United States v. Sanders, 
    994 F.2d 200
    , 207 (5th Cir.
    1993)). No case the dissent cites supports the proposition that, during a gang roundup, the
    Terry standard for initiating a stop should be relaxed.
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    case had the same facts such as Illinois v. Wardlow, where unprovoked flight
    was enough.”).
    C.
    The government further defends the stop by arguing the description,
    location, and gang activity were “identified in the information obtained by
    the officers during the gang roundup investigation,” citing the collective
    knowledge doctrine. We disagree.
    “[R]easonable suspicion can vest through the collective knowledge of
    the officers involved in the search and seizure operation.” United States v.
    Powell, 
    732 F.3d 361
    , 369 (5th Cir. 2013). This doctrine applies “so long as
    there is ‘some degree of communication’ between the acting officer and the
    officer who has knowledge of the necessary facts.” 
    Ibid.
     (quoting United
    States v. Ibarra, 
    493 F.3d 526
    , 530 (5th Cir. 2007)). Officers may conduct an
    investigatory stop in reliance on information issued through police channels,
    such as a wanted flyer or bulletin or a radio dispatch, if the information is
    based on “articulable facts supporting a reasonable suspicion that the wanted
    person has committed an offense.” Hensley, 
    469 U.S. at 232
     (flyer or
    bulletin); see, e.g., United States v. Cutchin, 
    956 F.2d 1216
    , 1217–18 (D.C. Cir.
    1992) (radio dispatch). But if the information “has been issued in the absence
    of a reasonable suspicion, then a stop in the objective reliance upon it violates
    the Fourth Amendment.” Hensley, 
    469 U.S. at 232
    .
    Officer Deleon’s team could rely on the information in the round-up
    packet only “if the police who issued [the packet] possessed a reasonable
    suspicion justifying a stop.” 
    Id. at 233
    . But Deleon did not know who
    provided the information in the packet, and he only vaguely described the
    investigation leading up to the round-up. And the government did not
    introduce into evidence the packet or any details about the origin or
    timeliness of the information therein to show that it was premised on
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    articulable facts. See O.A. Rec. 29:20–30:45. As our dissenting colleague
    remarked at oral argument, “the government didn’t offer the packet into
    [evidence]. That is incredibly derelict . . . .” 
    Id.
     at 30:12–30:22; see also 
    id.
     at
    33:54–33:57 (government conceding “[t]here are certainly shortcomings” in
    the record).
    We do not blindly accept officers’ reliance on information obtained
    through police channels; the government must substantiate the basis of the
    information. See Hensley, 
    469 U.S. at
    232–33; United States v. Maryland, 
    479 F.2d 566
    , 569 (5th Cir. 1973). Because the government here has not
    established reasonable suspicion that could have been transferred between
    officers, the collective knowledge doctrine does not apply. Cf. United States
    v. Ibarra-Sanchez, 
    199 F.3d 753
    , 759 (5th Cir. 1999) (noting “if [Agent]
    Mattas possessed sufficient reasonable suspicion to stop the van when he
    made his call to the dispatcher, then the actual stop by the [police] officers,
    acting on the dispatcher’s bulletin, was also supported by reasonable
    suspicion” (citing Hensley, 
    469 U.S. at 232
    )).16
    16
    The dissent asserts that our discussion of the collective knowledge doctrine is
    “dicta” because “[t]he government hardly broached, and in fact, disclaimed its reliance on
    this doctrine.” Post at 9. That is incorrect. Collective knowledge has always been an issue
    in this case. The district court’s order denying the motion to suppress relied, in part, on
    the “collective knowledge and experience of the officer or officers.” Alvarez, 
    2020 WL 5984078
    , at *2 (citation omitted). And the government’s brief to our court sought to justify
    the stop, in part, based on the collective knowledge doctrine. See Brief of Plaintiff-Appellee
    at 20–21, United States v. Alvarez, No. 21-40091 (5th Cir. July 7, 2021), ECF No. 35 (relying
    on the officers’ “collective knowledge” and citing authorities); 
    id.
     at 22–23 (arguing stop
    was justified based on officers’ possession of “packets of information of wanted subjects,”
    the suspect “was collectively identified as a Hispanic male,” and the “area is collectively
    known by law enforcement for gang activity”). Finally, the government never “disclaimed
    its reliance” on the doctrine; to the contrary, when asked about the doctrine at oral
    argument, the government responded, “Collective knowledge is certainly important in this
    case, and it’s certainly relevant.” O.A. Rec. 29:15–29:35.
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    IV.
    We REVERSE the denial of Alvarez’s motion to suppress,
    VACATE his conviction and sentence, and REMAND for further
    proceedings consistent with this opinion.
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    Edith H. Jones, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    It is axiomatic that reasonable suspicion “takes into account the
    totality of circumstances—the whole picture.” Kansas v. Glover, 
    140 S. Ct. 1183
    , 1191 (2020) (quoting Navarette v. California, 
    572 U.S. 393
    , 397,
    
    134 S. Ct. 1683
    , 1687 (2014)). Despite this clear standard, the majority
    opinion narrowly focuses on the suspect’s physical description while
    disregarding several additional facts that supported the Terry stop of Alvarez
    in this case. The majority’s unduly restrictive view of reasonable suspicion
    is inconsistent with our precedent and that of the Supreme Court.              I
    respectfully dissent.
    BACKGROUND
    In the summer of 2019, several law enforcement agencies combined
    resources to conduct a state-wide “roundup” of gang members with
    outstanding warrants. Officer Martin Deleon, an experienced police officer
    with 32 years on the force, 28 of them in the Police Gang Unit, led part of this
    effort. Teams of officers were provided packets of subjects, divided based on
    geographic location. Such “roundups” are more dangerous than regular
    patrol assignments because the officers are specifically pursuing criminals
    who are known to be violent.
    One of the suspects on Officer Deleon’s list was described as a
    “Hispanic male” on a “bicycle with large handlebars” who had been
    previously seen in the Leopard and Up River area and who “had run from
    officers in the past” on his bicycle. While on patrol for these wanted gang
    members, Officer Deleon and his partner spotted a Hispanic male riding a
    bicycle with unusually large handlebars on the sidewalk on Up River Road
    traveling toward Leopard, an area known for gang activity. Officer Deleon
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    also observed that the individual was riding his bicycle on the public
    sidewalks, which is illegal by ordinance in many places in Corpus Christi.1
    The officers first attempted to make contact with the man (later
    determined to be Alvarez) by pulling up next to him, honking, and telling him
    to “stop” and “pull over.” Alvarez refused to do so, and at one point asked
    “why?” while riding on. The officers drove next to him for about seventy-
    five yards, giving him “a few chances to stop.” Eventually, the officers cut
    him off by pulling the patrol car into a driveway entrance, blocking his ability
    to continue biking on the sidewalk. A protective frisk uncovered a handgun
    and ammunition on Alvarez, a convicted felon. Thus was Alvarez charged
    with a federal gun violation.
    Based on these facts, the majority determines that the officers acted
    solely based on a general, imprecise physical description of the suspect. See
    generally Maj. Op. 8–13. Little attention, if any, is given to the collective
    features of the stop, including that it (i) was part of a systematic “roundup”
    of gang members with outstanding warrants, which involved enhanced
    danger to police officers and increased risk of violence; (ii) was conducted in
    an area known for gang activity; (iii) was performed by a seasoned police
    officer with 28 years of experience in the gang unit; and (iv) involved the
    search for a Hispanic male, riding a bicycle with unusually large handlebars
    in the Leopard and Up River area. Importantly, the sought-after suspect also
    had a history of absconding from the police on his bicycle, behavior replicated
    when Alvarez deliberately evaded their requests to stop for seventy-five
    yards.
    1
    During the suppression hearing, the defense established that the ordinance did
    not apply to the area where the officers stopped Alvarez. Officer Deleon testified that he
    was unaware that this area was not covered by the ordinance when he stopped Alvarez.
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    DISCUSSION
    Reasonable suspicion is a “low threshold,” which requires only a
    “minimal level of objective justification.” United States v. Castillo, 
    804 F.3d 361
    , 367 (5th Cir. 2015) (quoting United States v. Sokolow, 
    490 U.S. 1
    , 7,
    
    109 S. Ct. 1581
     (1989)). “[T]he level of suspicion the standard requires is
    considerably less than proof of wrongdoing by a preponderance of the
    evidence, and obviously less than is necessary for probable cause.” Glover,
    140 S. Ct. at 1187 (internal quotation marks omitted).                    The majority
    acknowledges this low bar and even cites several “relevant facts and
    considerations” in the calculus,2 noting that otherwise innocent facts, when
    viewed in isolation, can collectively amount to reasonable suspicion. United
    States v. Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    , 277, 
    122 S. Ct. 744
    , 753 (2002). Nonetheless,
    the majority overrules the district court and finds no reasonable view of the
    record that provided the officers here with anything more than a hunch. But
    see United States v. Michelletti, 
    13 F.3d 838
    , 841 (5th Cir. 1994) (en banc)
    (“[T]his court ‘should uphold the district court’s ruling to deny the
    suppression motion if there is any reasonable view of the evidence to support
    it.’” (quoting United States v. Register, 
    931 F.2d 308
    , 312 (5th Cir. 1991))).
    The majority opinion errs for several reasons.
    First, neither of the cases principally relied on by the majority compels
    rejecting the basis for Alvarez’s stop. In each case, unlike the present one,
    the only information the police articulated to justify reasonable suspicion was
    general physical descriptions. See, e.g., United States v. Jones, 
    619 F.2d 494
    ,
    496–98 (5th Cir. 1980) (when officers act solely “on the basis of an
    2
    The facts and considerations include “a description of a suspect, a suspect’s
    location and proximity to known or reported criminal activity, the timeliness of information
    or the stop, a suspect’s behavior, and the officer’s experience.” Maj. Op. at 7. By my
    reckoning, as will be shown, four of those five factors are present here.
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    incomplete and stale description of a suspect that could, plainly, have fit
    many people,” there is no “reasonable” suspicion); United States v. Rias,
    
    524 F.2d 118
    , 119, 121 (5th Cir. 1975) (suspicion arising exclusively from the
    description of “two black males in a black or blue Chevrolet [who] were
    suspects in a series of . . . robberies,” which was “so tenuous as to provide
    virtually no grounds whatsoever for suspicion”). 
    Id. at 121
    .
    These cases furnish no authority for overturning the considered view
    of the district judge after a hearing. Far from being dispositive, Jones and
    Rias suggest only that the description of Alvarez, by itself, would be
    insufficient.3 But as discussed below, Alvarez’s physical description had to
    be considered along with his behavior, the location in which he was riding,
    Officer DeLeon’s experience, and the high-stakes nature of the officers’
    activity. “In evaluating the totality of the circumstances, a court may not
    consider the relevant factors in isolation from each other.” United States v.
    Lopez-Moreno, 
    420 F.3d 420
    , 430 (5th Cir. 2005).4
    Next, the totality of circumstances strongly supports the Terry stop of
    Alvarez. Obviously, Alvarez matched the description of a Hispanic male
    3
    The majority draws from these two cases an additional requirement that the
    police should not be able to claim reasonable suspicion when the suspect’s description has
    become “stale” by passage of time following the crime. Maj. Op. at 10–11, 13–14. There
    is no evidence in the record that Alvarez’s warrant, much less the description of his unusual
    bike and behavior toward police, was “stale.” That the majority construes this gap in the
    record against the government and the district court’s judgment is characteristic of its
    reasoning in this case, but flouts the requirement that, on appeal, all “evidence and
    inferences . . . are reviewed in the light most favorable to the Government as the prevailing
    party.” United States v. McKinnon, 
    681 F.3d 203
    , 207 (5th Cir. 2012).
    4
    See also United States v. Tuggle, 284 F. App’x 218, 223–26 (5th Cir. 2008)
    (unpublished) (reversing a district court for “erroneously split[ting] the evidence” rather
    than “objectively examin[ing] the ‘totality of the circumstances’”); United States v.
    Lawson, 233 F. App’x 367, 370–71 (5th Cir. 2007) (unpublished) (“Each factor by itself
    may not justify a Terry stop; but, the totality of these factors, along with [the defendant’s]
    unprovoked flight, provided the Officer with reasonable suspicion to detain him.”).
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    riding a bicycle with large handlebars. And his conduct in continuing to ride
    his bike while ignoring the officers until they blocked his path was consistent
    with the gang member’s evasive behavior as described in the officers’
    briefing. The majority, however, understates or disregards other significant
    features about the stop, such as its geographic location, Officer DeLeon’s
    relevant experience, and the nature of the officers’ pursuit. The officers’
    apprehension of Alvarez was based on all these factors.
    The majority belittles the officer’s explanation that the large
    handlebars on Alvarez’s bike “will stand out . . . because they’re not
    normal.” But the majority’s only support for denying the relevance of this
    fact is by analogy with cases about automobile descriptions. Maj. Op. at 12
    n.9. This is illogical. Bicycles are plainly distinct from automobiles. They
    have no license plates and are far less numerous—and therefore more readily
    identifiable—on the streets than automobiles. Moreover, unlike one case’s
    insufficient generic description of a “black Mercedes,” “large handlebars”
    on a bike are more akin to a very distinctive hood ornament or wheel covers
    than an automobile’s make and color.5                Furthermore, discounting the
    officer’s experience borne of practical observation is contrary to the record
    and applicable law.
    Contrary to the majority’s conclusions, Alvarez’s location was
    significant because he was found in the general vicinity where the subject of
    the warrant “had been seen” and this area was also independently known for
    gang activity. Thus, his location both corroborated the description provided
    to the officers and afforded the officers the right to consider the heightened
    5
    The majority asserts that there is “no basis” on which to differentiate the basic
    features of automobiles from the basic features of bicycles. Maj. Op. at 13 n.10. But what
    the majority calls “speculat[ion]” some would call common sense.
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    criminal activity in that area.6 United States v. Flowers, 
    6 F.4th 651
    , 656 (5th
    Cir. 2021) (“[T]he fact that the stop occurred in a high crime area is among
    the relevant contextual considerations in a Terry analysis.” (quoting Illinois
    v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124, 
    120 S. Ct. 673
    , 676 (2000))).
    Yet the majority erroneously discredits reliance on the high-crime
    characteristics of the location for either purpose.               Without citing any
    authority, it determines that, because the officers did not know exactly when
    and where the subject had previously been seen within the “Leopard-Up
    River area,” the fact that Alvarez was found in this admittedly geographically
    confined area was insignificant.              Again, this conclusion flouts the
    requirement that appellate courts “review the evidence in the light most
    favorable to the government as the prevailing party.” Michelletti, 
    13 F.3d at
    6 The Fifth Circuit has repeatedly upheld findings of reasonable suspicion where
    defendants absconded from law enforcement in high crime areas. See, e.g., United States v.
    Darrell, 
    945 F.3d 929
    , 933–35 (5th Cir. 2019) (upon spotting law enforcement, defendant
    walked away quickly outside of a house known for crime); United States v. Sanders, 
    994 F.2d 200
    , 207 (5th Cir. 1993) (defendant walked away after spotting a squad car pulling up in a
    high crime area); Tuggle, 284 F. App’x at 224–26 (defendant “walked briskly away from
    the officers” in a high crime neighborhood); Lawson, 233 F. App’x at 370 (defendant ran
    away when approached by law enforcement in a high crime neighborhood).
    Unfortunately, the majority, following its pattern of construing all factual
    inferences against the government, concludes that Alvarez’s evasion was emphatically not
    an attempt to abscond from the police. But our case law supports a broad definition of
    “evasion” for purposes of reasonable suspicion. See, e.g., Darrell, 945 F.3d at 935–36, 939
    (where defendant merely “walked away from the police and never left their field of vision,”
    such evasive behavior in a high-crime area was sufficient to warrant a stop); Sanders,
    
    994 F.2d at 207
     (holding that “[o]nce [defendant] saw the squad car pulling up . . . and
    started to walk away,” the officer had reasonable suspicion to stop him and “did not act
    unreasonably in immediately drawing his weapon when he confronted” him).” In Sanders,
    this court added that walking away “can be used by a criminal to prepare for a violent
    confrontation by surreptitiously retrieving a concealed weapon then spinning back around
    to face the officer and use the weapon against him,” and the officers feared for their own
    safety and the safety of the public. 
    Id.
     But this majority ignores our precedent merely
    because the confrontation with Alvarez did not result in “headlong flight.”
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    841. Beyond that, the majority rejects the significance of this high crime
    neighborhood because the government mentioned “no fact suggesting that
    Alvarez ‘had been, was, or was about to be engaged in criminal activity.’”
    Maj. Op. at 15 (quoting United States v. Vickers, 
    540 F.3d 356
    , 361 (5th Cir.
    2008)). But it is unclear what the majority requires the officers to have
    observed beyond the circumstances present in this case. On the contrary,
    this court has held that evading officers in an area known for crime is enough
    to meet the “low threshold” for a brief investigatory stop. United States v.
    Darrell, 
    945 F.3d 929
    , 933–35 (5th Cir. 2019).7
    Furthermore, Supreme Court precedent is in serious tension with the
    majority’s analysis. In Wardlow, the officers had reasonable suspicion after
    observing the defendant flee from police officers in an area known for heavy
    narcotics trafficking. 
    528 U.S. at
    124–25, 
    120 S. Ct. at 676
    . That is all. The
    officers witnessed nothing else on the ground that would have connected the
    defendant to narcotics trafficking. Yet, the Supreme Court explained:
    [O]fficers are not required to ignore the relevant characteristics
    of a location in determining whether the circumstances are
    sufficiently suspicious to warrant further investigation.
    Accordingly, we have previously noted the fact that the stop
    occurred in a “high crime area” among the relevant contextual
    considerations in a Terry analysis.
    
    Id.
     at 124 (citing Adams v. Williams, 
    407 U.S. 143
    , 144, 147–148, 
    92 S. Ct. 1921
    , 1922–24 (1972)). The Court further stated that conduct which is
    “ambiguous and susceptible of an innocent explanation” can justify a Terry
    stop. Id. at 125. In fact, “Terry accepts the risk that officers may stop
    innocent people.” Id. at 126; see also Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. at 277
    , 
    122 S. Ct. at 753
     (“A determination that reasonable suspicion exists, however, need not
    7
    See supra note 6.
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    rule out the possibility of innocent conduct.”). But the majority construes
    the Fourth Amendment to require more, shrinking the boundaries articulated
    in Wardlow and disabling officers from responding in high crime areas (and
    thereby endangering law-abiding residents) absent some obscure “observed
    fact.”8       Also important is that Terry does not require “particularized
    suspicion of a particular, specific crime, as distinguished from a particular
    and objective basis for suspecting the detained person or persons of some
    criminal activity.” United States v. Pack, 
    622 F.3d 383
    , 383 (5th Cir. 2010)
    (collecting cases). Otherwise, an officer’s reasonable suspicion elevates to
    probable cause.
    The majority’s analysis fails to consider other collective features of
    the stop, including Officer Deleon’s extensive experience in the Police Gang
    Unit. “In assessing reasonableness, ‘due weight’ must be given to the facts
    and inferences viewed ‘in light of [the officer’s] experience.’” Michelletti,
    
    13 F.3d at 841
     (quoting Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 27, 
    88 S. Ct. 1868
    , 1883
    (1968)). The Court in Terry emphasized the importance of affording some
    deference to an officer’s seasoned judgment when assessing his suspicion
    8
    The majority cites United States v. McKinney in support of its analysis, which is
    wholly inapposite. 
    980 F.3d 485
    , 492 (5th Cir. 2020). There, this court affirmed the
    uncontroversial rule that the mere fact that an area is known for a specific type of criminal
    activity does not support a reasonable inference that anybody found in that area is engaged
    in crime. But it is also uncontroversial that officers may consider “the relevant
    characteristics of a location in determining whether the circumstances are sufficiently
    suspicious.” Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 124
    , 
    120 S. Ct. at 676
    .
    Also note that McKinney rejected a denial of suppression on a bare record and
    remanded the case for factfinding. 980 F.3d at 496–97. Because there had not been an
    evidentiary hearing, the district court made “no credibility determinations” and “the
    record before [the appellate court was] insufficient to determine whether the officers had
    reasonable suspicion.” Id. Whereas here, the district court’s findings are shielded by clear
    error. See also infra note 10.
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    post hoc.9 
    392 U.S. at 12
    , 
    88 S. Ct. at 1875
     (“[W]e approach the issues in this
    case mindful of the limitations of the judicial function in controlling the
    myriad daily situations in which policemen and citizens confront each other
    on the street.”). At the suppression hearing,10 Officer Deleon testified that,
    based on his experience, it was unusual behavior for an individual to not pull
    over voluntarily after being asked to stop by the police. Further, he knew
    from his extensive law enforcement experience with gangs that the Leopard-
    Up River area was known for gang activity. And because he had previous
    experience with criminals on bicycles, he was aware that the handlebars on
    Alvarez’s bicycle were unusually large compared to the typical bicycle. Yet,
    the officer’s underlying qualities are afforded no credit in the majority’s
    analysis.
    Finally, it is important to reiterate, since the majority did not, 11 that
    Alvarez’s stop was the result of a coordinated “roundup” of gang members.
    9
    The Supreme Court has repeated this admonishment since Terry. See, e.g.,
    Ornelas v. United States, 
    517 U.S. 690
    , 699, 
    116 S. Ct. 1657
    , 1663 (1996) (“[W]e hasten to
    point out that a reviewing court should take care . . . to give due weight to inferences drawn
    from those facts by resident judges and local law enforcement officers.”); 
    id.
     (“[A] police
    officer views the facts through the lens of his police experience and expertise.”); Arvizu,
    
    534 U.S. at 273
    , 
    122 S. Ct. at
    750–51 (“[In assessing whether there is reasonable suspicion,
    officers are allowed] to draw on their own experience and specialized training to make
    inferences from and deductions about the cumulative information available to them that
    might well elude an untrained person.” (internal quotation marks omitted)).
    10
    Special deference is owed to the trial court where, as here, the trial court heard
    live oral testimony. Ornelas, 
    517 U.S. at 700
    , 
    116 S. Ct. at 1663
     (“An appeals court should
    give due weight to a trial court’s finding that the officer was credible and the inference was
    reasonable.”); United States v. Michalik, 
    5 F.4th 583
    , 588 (5th Cir. 2021), cert. denied,
    
    142 S. Ct. 910
     (2022) (“Our review is particularly deferential where denial of the
    suppression motion is based on live oral testimony because the judge had the opportunity
    to observe the demeanor of the witnesses.” (quoting United States v. Aguirre, 
    664 F.3d 606
    ,
    612 (5th Cir. 2011))).
    11
    Cf. Maj. Op. at 15–16 n.15. The majority defensively contends that it did in fact
    note that the stop was a result of a roundup of gang members. But the point is not the
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    Officer Deleon testified that such “roundups” often involve enhanced
    danger to police officers and increased risk of violence because officers are
    targeting known criminals. Officer and citizen safety have consistently been
    relevant considerations in the reasonable suspicion analysis. Reviewing
    courts must “look to the reality that the setting in which the police officer
    acts may reasonably and significantly affect his decisional calculus.” United
    States v. Rideau, 
    969 F.2d 1572
    , 1576 (5th Cir. 1992). And when an officer is
    unsure whether an individual is dangerous, a “minimally intrusive action” to
    ensure the safety of the public and the officers does not constitute a
    constitutional violation. 
    Id.
     See also Michelletti, 
    13 F.3d at 844
     (“Surely the
    constitutional legitimacy of a brief patdown . . . may and should reflect the
    horrendously more violent society in which we live, twenty-five years after
    Terry.”); United States v. Sanders, 
    994 F.2d 200
    , 207 (5th Cir. 1993). The
    heightened danger inherent in this encounter should be considered among
    the factors supporting the prophylactic reasonableness of the officer’s
    suspicion.
    The majority suggests that officers can only consider danger to police
    officers and the public when determining whether to conduct a “frisk.” Maj.
    Op. at 15–16 n.15. On the contrary, our precedent does not limit safety
    concerns to frisks.12 Here, based on what Officer Deleon knew at the time
    majority’s cursory reference to the fact of the round-up, but the absence of that fact from
    the majority’s assessment of reasonable suspicion.
    12
    United States v. Hensley, 
    469 U.S. 221
    , 
    105 S. Ct. 675
    , 680–84 (1985) (authorizing
    Terry stops for “investigation of past crimes,” particularly in the context of “felonies or
    crimes involving a threat to public safety”); Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 272, 
    120 S. Ct. 1375
    , 1379 (2000) (acknowledging that “[o]ur decisions recognize the serious threat that
    armed criminals pose to public safety” while declining to modify the standard for a Terry
    stop for illegal gun possession); Rodriguez v. United States, 
    575 U.S. 348
    , 356, 
    135 S. Ct. 1609
    , 1616 (2015) (noting that “the government’s officer safety interest stems from the
    mission of the stop itself” (internal quotation marks omitted)); Darrell, 945 F.3d at 936
    (considering that “retreat may be a tactical strategy for an armed suspect who wishes to
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    and based on his experience dealing with gang members, he reasonably
    believed that Alvarez matched the description of a wanted criminal who was
    evading law enforcement in a high crime area where he had previously been
    seen.    Without acknowledging the heightened risk, the majority faults
    Officer Deleon for conducting an investigatory stop to dispel his suspicion
    that this man was wanted and dangerous rather than just letting him flee. 13
    Adams, 
    407 U.S. at 146
    , 
    92 S. Ct. at 1923
     (“A brief stop of a suspicious
    individual, in order to determine his identity or to maintain the status quo
    momentarily while obtaining more information, may be most reasonable in
    light of the facts known to the officer at the time.”); Glover, 140 S. Ct. at
    1189–90 (officers may use principles of common sense to make inferences
    supporting suspicion).
    harm the police” when holding that a stop was justified); McKinney, 980 F.3d at 495
    (considering whether the “officers . . . fear[ed] for their safety” before holding that there
    was no reasonable suspicion for the stop). See also Hiibel v. Sixth Jud. Dist. Ct. of Nevada,
    Humboldt Cty., 
    542 U.S. 177
    , 197, 
    124 S. Ct. 2451
    , 2465 (2004) (Breyer, J., dissenting) (“At
    the same time, it recognized that in certain circumstances, public safety might require a
    limited ‘seizure,’ or stop, of an individual against his will.”).
    13
    The Supreme Court has characterized the search for wanted criminals as a
    “strong government interest.”
    [W]here police have been unable to locate a person suspected of
    involvement in a past crime, the ability to briefly stop that person, ask
    questions, or check identification in the absence of probable cause
    promotes the strong government interest in solving crimes and bringing
    offenders to justice . . . . Particularly in the context of felonies or crimes
    involving a threat to public safety, it is in the public interest that the crime
    be solved and the suspect detained as promptly as possible. The law
    enforcement interests at stake in these circumstances outweigh the
    individual’s interest to be free of a stop and detention that is no more
    extensive than permissible in the investigation of imminent or ongoing
    crimes.
    Hensley, 
    469 U.S. at 229
    , 
    105 S. Ct. at 680
    .
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    Finally, and gratuitously, the majority sua sponte concludes that the
    descriptive information provided to Officer Deleon and his partner via the
    “roundup” packets could not contribute to reasonable suspicion because the
    government did not establish that any prior suspicion “vested” via the
    collective knowledge doctrine. The majority’s gratuitous ruling is useless
    dicta. The government hardly broached, and in fact, disclaimed its reliance
    on this doctrine, and Alvarez never raised this argument in the district court
    or on appeal.14 In fact, if Alvarez had raised this argument on appeal, we
    would likely deem it forfeited. See Martinez v. Texas Dep’t of Crim. Just.,
    
    300 F.3d 567
    , 573 (5th Cir. 2002).                Yet, this discourse illustrates the
    majority’s tendency to view the record before us in the light least favorable to
    the government.
    For the foregoing reasons, I respectfully dissent.
    14
    The government briefly acknowledges the collective knowledge doctrine in
    passing, but importantly, Alvarez does not. Furthermore, the district court never
    considered the collective knowledge doctrine because the theory was never presented
    below. United States v. Alvarez, No. 2:20-CR-41, 
    2020 WL 5984078
    , at *2 (S.D. Tex.
    Oct. 8, 2020). The majority asserts that the district court “relied, in part,” on the
    collective knowledge doctrine, but the only mention of “collective knowledge” in the
    district court’s opinion is within its articulation of the standard for reasonable suspicion.
    Specifically, it innocuously noted that “a court must look to the ‘totality of the
    circumstances and the collective knowledge and experience of the officer or officers.’” 
    Id.
    (citing United States v. Estrada, 
    459 F.3d 627
    , 631–32 (5th Cir. 2006)) (emphasis added).
    (Estrada was also not about the collective knowledge doctrine.) That is the full extent of the
    district court’s consideration of the matter.
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