United States v. Raymond McKinney ( 2020 )


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  • Case: 19-50801      Document: 00515644114         Page: 1    Date Filed: 11/18/2020
    REVISED
    United States Court of Appeals
    for the Fifth Circuit                               United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    FILED
    November 16, 2020
    No. 19-50801
    Lyle W. Cayce
    Clerk
    United States of America,
    Plaintiff—Appellee,
    versus
    Raymond McKinney, also known as Ray Lee McKinney, also
    known as Ray L. McKinney, also known as Raymond L.
    McKinney, also known as Scott Eaven, also known as Scott Lee,
    also known as Raymond Lee McKinney, also known as Ray Green,
    Defendant—Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Western District of Texas
    USDC No. 5:18-CR-131
    Before Owen, Chief Judge, and Davis and Southwick, Circuit Judges.
    Leslie H. Southwick, Circuit Judge:
    Raymond McKinney entered a conditional guilty plea to the charge of
    being a felon in possession of a firearm. He reserved the right to challenge on
    appeal the denial of his motion to suppress evidence of the discovery of the
    firearm by an officer patting him down prior to questioning. McKinney was
    detained for questioning while standing on a sidewalk with others near a
    business that in recent days had been the location of multiple gang-related
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    shootings. We conclude that the evidence before the district court did not
    support that officers had reasonable suspicion to detain McKinney for
    questioning. We REVERSE the judgment of conviction and the sentence,
    which were based on the conditional guilty plea, and REMAND for further
    proceedings.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    In mid-September 2017, at about 9:00 p.m., McKinney and three
    other individuals were on a sidewalk near a gas station in San Antonio, Texas.
    That station had in recent days been the location of drive-by shootings, one
    as recent as 4:00 a.m. that day. Two officers approached, frisked the three
    men in the group, and discovered a gun on McKinney. He was charged with
    being a felon in possession of a firearm. See 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1).
    In a motion to suppress evidence of the gun, McKinney argued that
    the officers lacked reasonable suspicion both for the initial stop and for the
    later frisk. McKinney used the officers’ body-camera videos and the police
    report as his supporting evidence. The Government filed a response in
    opposition, attaching still shots of the video as well as news articles reporting
    the recent shootings in the area. Without holding a hearing, the district court
    denied the motion in summary fashion. It later issued a second order
    explaining its reasoning for the denial.
    Without an evidentiary hearing, we do not have the benefit of
    testimony from the officers. Neither party submitted any affidavits. Instead,
    the body-camera videos, videos from the police SUV cameras, and the police
    report constitute the evidence.
    Around ten o’clock on the night of the arrest, San Antonio officers
    Holland and Carmona were on patrol in an unmarked police SUV near the
    gas station that had been the location of recent drive-by shootings. The
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    officers turned out of the gas station and, within seconds, pulled up to
    McKinney and three others standing on the sidewalk. The group consisted
    of McKinney, two men, and a woman. Officer Holland jumped out of the
    passenger seat and said, “What’s up gentlemen? What’s going on today?”
    As he approached the group, he shined his light on the woman, who appeared
    to be slowly walking away from the group, then ordered her to come back.
    She complied. Officer Holland immediately frisked the two other men.
    At this point, Officer Carmona exited the SUV and focused his
    attention on McKinney, who was standing with his illuminated phone in one
    hand, a bottle of Minute Maid in the other, and a backpack on his back.
    Officer Carmona asked if he lived nearby, and McKinney responded, “No,
    Sir.” Officer Carmona asked if he had any guns on him, and McKinney said
    that he did not. Officer Carmona asked to “pat [McKinney] down real quick
    [to make sure he did not have] any guns.” McKinney declined to consent to
    a search. Officer Carmona said that he was not “searching” him, just
    “patting [him] down.” By now, Officer Carmona was holding McKinney.
    He patted McKinney down and found a gun in his waistband. McKinney was
    then handcuffed.
    In the minutes that followed, the officers made several statements
    explaining their reasons for initiating the investigatory detention and
    conducting the pat-downs. When McKinney asked why he was “searched,”
    Officer Holland responded that it was because McKinney was “out here with
    a gun,” near “a place that [was] shot up the other day,” and that he was
    “hanging out over here in a jacket in the middle of the summer.” Officer
    Carmona later told McKinney he was frisked because he was in an area
    known for shootings even though he did not live there. Officer Carmona
    added: “You want to know what my reasonable suspicion is? That there’s
    been three or four shootings here in the last day and a half.” Later, Officer
    Holland warned the others in the group: “[If] [y]ou are hanging out over
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    here, you are going to get stopped, you are going to get checked. Especially
    if you are gang members.”
    Two of the Government’s arguments are that the clothing worn by
    McKinney and others supports a reasonable suspicion of criminal gang
    activity. The body-camera videos show that McKinney was wearing a black
    Nike windbreaker, a black bucket hat accented with the colors of the Jamaican
    flag, and red shorts. He also had a light-colored backpack. The woman wore
    a pink shirt with a pink bow in her hair.1 One of the men wore a white shirt,
    white hat, and khaki pants. The other wore a white shirt and dark pants, but
    it is unclear whether the pants were red or another color.
    The police report, created by Officer Holland, states that the officers
    observed “gang members hanging out” near the gas station. It asserts that
    “[t]he group was wearing red colors,” though in fact only McKinney had red
    clothing, and that McKinney was wearing a jacket and hat even though “[i]t
    was quite warm and humid out.” The report also states that when one of the
    men saw the officers, he “turned and appeared to drop something very
    small.” Finally, it claims that the officers approached the group and frisked
    the men “due to the area being a [B]loods gang location and all of [the]
    [recent] shooting[s] at this location.”
    McKinney moved to suppress the evidence of the firearm. The
    district court entered a summary denial in September 2018. In April 2019,
    the court entered a second, detailed order on the motion. The court held that
    the officers’ actions were justified. To conclude there was reasonable
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    The district court incorrectly found that the woman was wearing a “big red
    sparkly bow,” which it concluded was “more evidence of the red gang color.” Whether
    the fact the color was pink, not red, would have been clear to the officers that night is
    unknown on this record. The Government also did not offer evidence that pink clothing
    would have been worn as a close substitute for red in order to reflect gang affiliation.
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    suspicion for the stop, the court relied on the following: (1) recent gang
    violence in the area; (2) the red, gang-related clothing; (3) McKinney’s
    wearing a jacket and backpack on a hot summer night; (4) the woman’s
    exhibiting evasive behavior by trying to “distance herself”; and (5) Officer
    Holland’s observation that “one of the individuals drop[ped] something very
    small” in a “quick hand motion indicative of someone getting rid of evidence,
    usually narcotics.”     The court “infer[red]” that the officers were
    “seasoned” and “trained.”
    The district court also concluded that the officers had reasonable
    suspicion to frisk McKinney, i.e., that he was armed and dangerous. For
    support, the court pointed out, again, his wearing a jacket and backpack on a
    hot night. The court also noted that the red shorts were a “gang color.” The
    court also contended that McKinney’s refusal to consent to a pat-down
    supported reasonable suspicion to do so without consent. Additionally, the
    court found that the ultimate discovery of the gun possessed by someone
    wearing gang colors supported a reasonable suspicion to conduct the frisk.
    Based on these findings, the district court denied the motion to
    suppress. McKinney entered a conditional guilty plea but reserved the right
    to challenge the denial of his motion to suppress. This appeal followed.
    DISCUSSION
    Warrantless searches and seizures are presumptively unreasonable,
    subject to certain exceptions. United States v. Hill, 
    752 F.3d 1029
    , 1033 (5th
    Cir. 2014).   One exception provides that “officers may briefly detain
    individuals on the street, even though there is no probable cause to arrest
    them, if they have a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot.”
    United States v. Michelletti, 
    13 F.3d 838
    , 840 (5th Cir. 1994) (en banc)
    (discussing Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    (1968)).            Similarly, reasonable,
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    individualized suspicion that someone being stopped for brief questioning is
    armed and dangerous must exist before the officer may conduct a pat-down.
    Maryland v. Buie, 
    494 U.S. 325
    , 334 n.2 (1990).
    A seizure must be “justified at its inception.” Hiibel v. Sixth Jud. Dist.
    Ct., 
    542 U.S. 177
    , 185 (2004). Reasonable suspicion must exist before the
    initiation of an investigatory detention. United States v. Monsivais, 
    848 F.3d 353
    , 359 (5th Cir. 2017). Reasonable suspicion exists if the officer can “point
    to specific and articulable facts that lead him to reasonably suspect that a
    particular person is committing, or is about to commit, a crime.” 
    Hill, 752 F.3d at 1033
    . It cannot be unparticularized or founded on a mere hunch.
    United States v. Jaquez, 
    421 F.3d 338
    , 341 (5th Cir. 2005). Instead, “a
    minimal level of objective justification” is required.
    Id. Observations capable of
    innocent explanation when considered alone might rise to the level of
    reasonable suspicion in the aggregate. United States v. Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    ,
    277–78 (2002). Likewise, an officer can have a reasonable suspicion without
    ruling out every innocent explanation.
    Id. at 277.
    We account for the totality
    of the circumstances in determining whether there was a “‘particularized
    and objective basis’ for suspecting legal wrongdoing.”
    Id. at 273
    (quoting
    United States v. Cortez, 
    449 U.S. 411
    , 417–18 (1981)).
    When reviewing the denial of a motion to suppress, we review
    questions of law de novo and findings of fact for clear error. United States v.
    Bolden, 
    508 F.3d 204
    , 205 (5th Cir. 2007). For factual findings, we give the
    district court heightened deference when the judge had the “opportunity to
    judge the credibility of those witnesses,” a benefit that appellate courts do
    not have. See United States v. Gibbs, 
    421 F.3d 352
    , 357 (5th Cir. 2005). There
    was no evidentiary hearing in this case, though, so there is no heightened
    deference to the district court’s findings of fact.
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    Whether there is sufficient evidence to support reasonable suspicion
    is a question of law; consequently, our review is de novo. 
    Monsivais, 848 F.3d at 357
    . Demonstrating reasonable suspicion is the Government’s burden.
    
    Hill, 752 F.3d at 1033
    . On this issue, we view the evidence in the light most
    favorable to the party that prevailed in district court. United States v.
    Freeman, 
    914 F.3d 337
    , 341 (5th Cir. 2019). Here, that is the Government.
    We will uphold the district court’s decision if there is any reasonable view of
    the evidence to support doing so.
    Id. at 342.
              The parties do not appear to dispute when McKinney and the others
    were seized. “It must be recognized that whenever a police officer accosts
    an individual and restrains his freedom to walk away, he has ‘seized’ that
    person.” 
    Terry, 392 U.S. at 16
    . When Officer Holland jumped out of the
    police SUV and approached the group, he shined his flashlight on the woman
    who appeared to be walking away and ordered that she return. No reasonable
    person would have felt free to walk away. As a result, each person in the
    group was seized at that moment.
    Because the initial detention must be justified at its inception,
    
    Monsivais, 848 F.3d at 357
    , the issue in this case is whether the officers had
    reasonable suspicion based on their observations at the time they ordered the
    woman to stop. If reasonable suspicion is lacking at this point, there is no
    need to analyze whether the subsequent pat-down was supported by a
    reasonable suspicion that McKinney was armed and dangerous. See
    id. In contrast, if
    the initial detention is justified by a reasonable suspicion, facts
    supporting a pat-down can develop after the suspect has been detained. See
    Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 
    434 U.S. 106
    , 111–12 (1977) (holding Terry pat-down
    was justified when officer noticed a bulge in suspect’s jacket after initiating a
    routine traffic stop).
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    To determine whether reasonable suspicion existed at the initiation of
    the investigatory detention, we evaluate each fact identified by the district
    court as supporting a reasonable suspicion to initiate the investigatory
    detention. Our conclusion, though, depends on the combination of facts.
    I.     Gang violence
    The district court found that the officers were “aware of recent gang
    violence” in the area, i.e., the drive-by shootings at the nearby gas station.
    The officers, according to the court, were “closely patrolling” this area in
    response to the shootings. On appeal, McKinney argues his presence in a
    high-crime area is not evidence to support reasonable suspicion.
    Certainly, “the fact that the stop occurred in a ‘high crime area’ [is]
    among the relevant contextual considerations in a Terry analysis.” Illinois v.
    Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124 (2000). Still, a person’s “presence in an area of
    expected criminal activity, standing alone, is not enough to support a
    reasonable, particularized suspicion that the person is committing a crime.”
    Id. The officers were
    patrolling the area in response to recent shootings, but
    those shootings do not justify stopping anyone absent an articulable suspicion
    about a connection between the person and those crimes. In one case, we
    held that an officer lacked reasonable suspicion to stop a red vehicle just
    fifteen minutes after receiving a dispatch that a red vehicle was involved in
    gun fire in the same area. 
    Jaquez, 421 F.3d at 340
    –41. In another, we held
    that reasonable suspicion did exist when officers heard gunshots “around the
    corner,” and within one minute pulled over a vehicle being driven “relatively
    fast” from the direction of the shooting. United States v. Bolden, 
    508 F.3d 204
    , 207 (5th Cir. 2007).
    From the evidence introduced by the Government, this was a mixed
    residential and commercial area, containing a few stores and restaurants to
    which the local residents could walk. A small group being on a sidewalk was
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    not itself evidence of anything suspicious. Later, officers learned that none
    of those in the group lived in the immediate area, but there was no evidence
    officers knew that when the stop was made. Nothing observed by the officers
    connected McKinney or anyone else standing on the sidewalk to the recent
    and nearby shootings that had been made from passing vehicles. The officers
    hardly even alleged a suspicious connection. Officer Holland told the group
    that “if [y]ou are hanging out over here [near the location of the recent
    shootings], you are going to get stopped, you are going to get checked.
    Especially if you are gang members.”
    II.     Red clothing
    The district court relied on the finding that McKinney and others
    were wearing some red clothing. The court characterized the clothing as
    evidence of gang involvement. The police report remarked that “[t]he group
    was wearing red colors” and that the area was a “[B]loods gang location.”
    According to the report, this was one principal reason for making the
    investigatory stop. Our review of the videos indicates that the only person
    wearing red clothing was McKinney, whose shorts were red. 2 The district
    court found that the woman was wearing a “big red sparkly bow,” described
    as “more evidence of the red gang color.” Her bow, though, was pink, and
    matched her pink shirt. There is no evidence that officers reasonably
    believed that a color somewhat close to red was also what gang members
    wore.
    Our concern with these first two factors — high-crime area and gang
    colors — is that as far as the record demonstrates, this high-crime area was
    residential and, presumably, people other than gang members lived there.
    2
    The Jamaican flag on McKinney’s hat had a small red stripe, not reasonably
    suggestive of showing allegiance to this neighborhood gang.
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    We cannot accept that there is reasonable suspicion for questioning everyone
    in a crime-ridden neighborhood wearing one article of clothing that is not an
    unusual color but happens also to be the color of choice for a gang. Additional
    evidence, such as showing that police were aware that residents of the area
    who are not gang members avoided wearing those colors to prevent trouble
    with gang members or with police, would allow the clothing of only one
    person in a group to be considered more significant.
    The Government urges us to consider one of our nonprecedential
    opinions which held there was reasonable suspicion in part because the
    suspect was “wearing gang colors.” See United States v. Miranda, 393 F.
    App’x 243, 246 (5th Cir. 2010). There, though, the officer already knew the
    suspect because the same officer had arrested him on a prior occasion.
    Id. at 244.
    The reasonable suspicion was supported by the officer’s knowledge that
    the suspect was a felon and member of a violent gang, and also the officer’s
    observations that the suspect was wearing gang colors and trespassing in an
    area known for gang-related crime.
    Id. at 246.
              Unlike Miranda, there is no evidence either officer knew McKinney
    or anyone in the group. We consider the red shorts at most to be a start
    towards suspicion but not enough. It might well have been suspicious if in
    fact the group had been wearing red, suggesting reason and not randomness
    to the wearing of that color. That they were in a high-crime residential area
    does not add to suspicion absent some evidence that it was reasonable to
    suspect that those willing to be outside at that location at that time of night
    were gang members.
    The record strongly supports a finding that the comments we have
    already quoted from the officers were the actual and insufficient reasons for
    the stop. Officer Carmona said his “reasonable suspicion” was that there
    had been multiple shootings. Officer Holland believed it was enough to stop
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    people who “are hanging out over here,” especially if the people are
    members of a gang — presumably meaning anyone wearing red. Even though
    the articulated reasons fail, the test to be applied is objective, meaning it does
    not depend on what the officers claimed as reasons. See 
    Jaquez, 421 F.3d at 341
    . We look at the remainder of the relevant evidence to determine whether
    other facts known to these officers objectively justified the stop.
    III.   McKinney’s clothing and backpack
    The court relied on its finding that McKinney, unlike the others, “was
    wearing a jacket and had a backpack on a hot September night.” The police
    report notes that McKinney was wearing a jacket. Our understanding from
    the briefing and from our review of the video is that the jacket was something
    like a “windbreaker,” which might not be suspicious if, as McKinney
    claimed, it had been lightly raining earlier.        The Government insists
    McKinney was “dressed oddly, given the warm night,” in clothes that could
    potentially conceal a weapon. In the body-camera footage, Officer Holland
    explained to McKinney that he was searched because he was “out here with
    a gun,” near a place that “just got shot up” while he was wearing “a jacket
    in the middle of the summer.” Although the officers might have been able to
    see that McKinney was wearing some sort of outerwear, we cannot discern
    on this record whether officers could have known before approaching the
    group how out-of-season McKinney’s jacket was.
    We start with the obvious. The fact that McKinney did have a gun in
    his waistband is irrelevant to a determination of whether reasonable suspicion
    existed in order to initiate an investigatory detention. See Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 271 (2000).
    As to the backpack, a panel of the court once stated that “the very
    common occurrence of having a backpack in a vehicle and the multitude of
    innocent uses for a backpack in a vehicle render[ed] the presence of a
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    backpack in [the suspect’s] vehicle of little persuasive value.” United States
    v. Spears, 636 F. App’x 893, 904 (5th Cir. 2016). We agree with that
    assessment. There is no indication from the body-camera videos that the
    officers even saw the backpack before stopping the group. In the police
    report, the officers mentioned the weather and McKinney’s “floppy hat” but
    did not mention a backpack.
    We consider the jacket, and how it appeared to the officers, to be the
    one piece of evidence that, when added to the rest of what we have discussed,
    might have created just enough suspicion to move beyond a mere hunch.
    Generally speaking, the concealing nature of a suspect’s clothing may
    support a stop or a search. In a traffic-stop case, we held that an officer had
    reasonable suspicion to prolong the stop based on extreme nervousness
    exhibited by the driver and passengers, inconsistent answers to his questions,
    the inability of the driver to provide basic information, and also that the driver
    was wearing baggy clothing. United States v. Henry, 
    372 F.3d 714
    , 715–16 (5th
    Cir. 2004). In another case, we held that an officer acted reasonably in
    immediately drawing his weapon when he confronted the suspect, in part
    because the suspect wore a long tan jacket that could hide a weapon. United
    States v. Sanders, 
    994 F.2d 200
    , 207 (5th Cir. 1993). The officer was
    responding to a call that a suspicious man was on a grocery store premises in
    a neighborhood known for violence and weapons.
    Id. at 201.
              We have much less in the present case. The officers initiated the
    investigatory detention before observing nervousness or hearing any
    statements, much less inconsistent ones. There also was no report of a just-
    committed offense for which individuals in the immediate area might be seen
    as more likely involved.
    We see some similarities to the facts that caused the Eighth Circuit to
    hold that officers did not have reasonable suspicion to stop and frisk an
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    individual. That person was “wearing a long-sleeved hooded sweatshirt and
    clutching the front area of his hoodie pocket with his right hand.” United
    States v. Jones, 
    606 F.3d 964
    , 965 (8th Cir. 2010) (quotation marks omitted).
    The Government argued that reasonable suspicion existed based on the
    suspect’s: (1) holding his hand against his body, indicative of carrying a
    firearm; (2) walking in a high-crime neighborhood; (3) wearing a sweatshirt
    when it was 68 degrees and sunny, suggesting that he was “hiding
    something”; and (4) watching the officers in a concerned manner.
    Id. at 966.
       The suspect “did not panic or flee,” and the officers detained him “before
    he said anything suspicious or incriminating.”
    Id. The court held
    that the
    suspect’s behavior was innocent; walking in a high-crime area in a sweatshirt
    and watching a police vehicle pass were not reasonably suspicious.
    Id. at 967.
              Similarly, McKinney did not panic or flee; there were no suspicious
    statements; and there were no suspicious, concerned looks emanating from
    those whom the police ended up stopping.
    Thus, we are back to the jacket. Could police reasonably believe it was
    so out-of-season in appearance, with whatever lighting existed as the stop was
    occurring, to be suspicious? Or did it instead appear to be a light jacket useful
    for nothing more than keeping off rain? The current record does not allow
    us to determine.
    IV.    Evasive behavior
    The district court also relied on its finding that the woman attempted
    to distance herself when the officers arrived. In the body-camera video, she
    appears to slowly walk away from the group, but she immediately complied
    with the officer’s order to return. Her apparently evasive behavior is not
    mentioned in the police report.
    The Supreme Court has held officers had reasonable suspicion when,
    in a high-crime area, the suspect noticed the police and immediately engaged
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    in “unprovoked flight.” 
    Wardlow, 528 U.S. at 124
    –25. There, the suspect
    ran from police in a “headlong” manner.”
    Id. at 122, 124.
    We recently
    allowed lesser speed to create suspicion where “flight” was a quick walk
    away from police. United States v. Darrell, 
    945 F.3d 929
    , 935, 938 (5th Cir.
    2019). As officers arrived at a house to serve an arrest warrant, they noticed
    a car parked in the driveway.
    Id. at 930.
    The suspect immediately exited the
    vehicle and began walking toward the house, ignoring commands from
    officers to stop while increasing his pace.
    Id. The suspect eventually
       complied and walked back to the officers.
    Id. at 931.
    The Darrell court held
    that this constituted “flight from police in a high-crime area,” which was “a
    prototypical case of suspicious activity.”
    Id. at 938.
              We have also held that a defendant’s girlfriend’s brisk walk from a car
    after noticing police did not create reasonable suspicion as to the defendant,
    who was still sitting in the car. 
    Hill, 752 F.3d at 1031
    . As to the defendant,
    the court explained that “the girlfriend’s quick movements might reflect to
    some extent on [the defendant] too, since she just exited the car in which they
    both sat, but the persuasive value of her movements vis-à-vis reasonable
    suspicion of him is relatively diminished.”
    Id. at 1037.
              Here, we do not see that the woman engaged in something equivalent
    to flight from the scene. The suspect in Wardlow ran down an alley to avoid
    capture. 
    Wardlow, 528 U.S. at 122
    . In Darrell, the suspect walked away from
    the officers but also ignored initial commands to stop, thereby creating a fear
    in the officers that he would draw a concealed weapon. 
    Darrell, 945 F.3d at 930
    –31. The woman here certainly did not engage in flight such as what
    occurred in Wardlow. Unlike Darrell, when Officer Holland ordered the
    woman to come back, she immediately complied. Further, there is no
    indication that her conduct caused the officers to fear for their safety.
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    Most importantly, McKinney is not the person who engaged in the
    arguably suspicious departure from the scene. As we held in Hill, the
    woman’s attempt to distance herself is of “relatively diminished” persuasive
    value as to someone else. 
    Hill, 752 F.3d at 1037
    . It does not give rise to
    reasonable suspicion here.
    Additionally, wrapped up in our reasonable-suspicion inquiry is the
    presence or absence of nervous behavior. See, e.g., 
    Monsivais, 848 F.3d at 359
    .
    Nervous behavior is indeed supportive of a reasonable suspicion. 
    Wardlow, 528 U.S. at 124
    . Here, though, there is no evidence that McKinney or anyone
    exhibited any nervous behavior.
    V.     Observing someone “drop something very small”
    The final piece of evidence relied upon by the district court was
    Officer Holland’s apparent observation that “one of the individuals
    drop[ped] something very small.” The police report states: “The males saw
    us and one turned and appeared to drop something very small.” The body-
    camera video does not show any suspect dropping something or record an
    officer’s reference to seeing that before initiating the stop. Certainly, the
    district court could credit assertions of an officer about what happened that
    a camera would have missed. After making the arrest, the video shows
    Officer Holland searching the ground where the group was standing. He later
    found a plastic bag and stated that one of the individuals must have consumed
    its contents.
    Attempts to hide or discard contraband can contribute to suspicion or
    probable cause. See, e.g., United States v. Wadley, 
    59 F.3d 510
    , 513 (5th Cir.
    1995) (“[A] reasonable officer was entitled to conclude that [the suspect] was
    attempting to evade capture so that he could discard the drugs he was
    carrying.”); United States v. Watson, 
    953 F.2d 895
    , 897 (5th Cir. 1992)
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    (finding suspicious that the suspect “move[d] about in his seat as if to conceal
    or retrieve some item”).
    The record before us is thin on this apparent observation. The first
    reference is in the police report, stating that one individual “appeared to drop
    something very small.” Perhaps this action, one that the subsequent search
    suggests may have just been littering, could be evidence supporting
    reasonable suspicion of a more substantial crime. Being able to evaluate the
    credibility of the officer making that statement would be useful.
    VI.    Evidentiary hearing
    No hearing was held on the suppression motion, but apparently none
    was requested. Such a hearing could have allowed officers to explain further
    what they observed or knew. Because there was no testimony, no credibility
    determinations were made by the district court.
    On the record before us, we conclude that the Government failed to
    show that the officers had reasonable suspicion that McKinney was engaged
    in criminal activity. If anything, the record supports that officers stopped
    McKinney solely because he was with a group near the location of recent
    shootings and was wearing something red. Perhaps the jacket he was wearing
    was suspicious, and perhaps the officers did see the suspicious discarding of
    something as they approached, but the record before us does not support a
    reasonable suspicion based on those grounds. Therefore, the Government
    failed to meet its burden of showing that the initial detention was justified at
    its inception. See 
    Monsivais, 848 F.3d at 357
    .
    Because we remand for further proceedings, we will discuss the
    legality of the frisk as well. Even if the officers had reasonable suspicion to
    initiate the stop, the pat-down needs its own justification. The Supreme
    Court has explained that in Terry v. Ohio, “the Court considered whether an
    investigatory stop (temporary detention) and frisk (patdown for weapons)
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    may be conducted without violating the Fourth Amendment's ban on
    unreasonable searches and seizures.” Arizona v. Johnson, 
    555 U.S. 323
    , 326
    (2009). Certainly, the investigatory stop itself must be lawful.
    Id. We have discussed
    the uncertainties in the record on that issue and have remanded.
    Next, even if an officer is justified in making a brief investigatory stop, “to
    proceed from a stop to a frisk, the police officer must reasonably suspect that
    the person stopped is armed and dangerous.”
    Id. at 326–27.
    We have
    described the standard for justifying a pat-down as being “more onerous”
    than that for the initial stop. 
    Monsivais, 848 F.3d at 357
    n.1.
    The district court concluded that the officers had reasonable suspicion
    that McKinney was armed and dangerous, based on the facts that McKinney
    was wearing a jacket, backpack, and hat on that night, and that his clothes
    were red. That evidence was insufficient to provide reasonable suspicion for
    the stop and, consequently, could not support the more onerous
    requirements for a frisk. If additional evidence is introduced on remand that
    more fully explains what officers saw, that evidence can be considered as to
    the suspicions both for the initial stop and for the frisk.
    The district court also held that reasonable suspicion to frisk was
    supported by McKinney’s refusal to consent to a pat-down and by the
    discovery of the gun. These facts, though, are irrelevant. For one, a mere
    refusal to consent cannot support suspicion. United States v. Machuca-
    Barrera, 
    261 F.3d 425
    , 435 n.32 (5th Cir. 2001). For another, the ultimate
    discovery of the gun cannot support the frisk because “[t]he reasonableness
    of official suspicion must be measured by what the officers knew before they
    conducted their search.” 
    J.L., 529 U.S. at 271
    (emphasis added).
    This appeal is from a conviction and sentence based on a conditional
    guilty plea. The condition was the validity of the denial of the suppression
    motion. The condition fails, and therefore so does the guilty plea. That does
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    not mean McKinney is acquitted, only that the judgment based on his guilty
    plea must be vacated.
    On remand, the case can proceed as the district court directs. Should
    the Government seek to have the suppression motion reconsidered, an
    evidentiary hearing would be useful. A somewhat similar situation arose in a
    case in which the district court denied a motion to suppress evidence based
    on the good faith of an officer for stopping the defendant’s vehicle for a traffic
    offense, and we reversed because the record did not contain evidence of a
    necessary fact for the existence of the offense. United States v. Cole, 
    444 F.3d 688
    , 690 (5th Cir. 2006) (deciding whether the traffic stop was properly made
    required evidence of whether there was a crosswalk). We vacated the denial
    of the motion to suppress evidence of drugs found in the defendant’s vehicle
    after the traffic stop and remanded for additional fact findings as to whether
    the factual predicate for the offense existed. Id.; see also United States v.
    Rogers, 481 F. App’x 157, 159–60 (5th Cir. 2012) (finding the record to be
    inadequate to uphold a search and holding that it was error not to conduct an
    evidentiary hearing on the motion to suppress and therefore remanding).
    Similarly, the record before us is insufficient to determine whether the
    officers had reasonable suspicion. The body-camera videos and police report
    do not sufficiently explain the events leading up to the initiation of the
    investigatory detention.
    We VACATE the order of the district court denying McKinney’s
    motion to suppress, VACATE his conviction and sentence, and REMAND
    the case to the district court for further proceedings. If the district court
    again denies McKinney’s motion to suppress, it shall reinstate McKinney’s
    conviction and sentence. See United States v. Guzman, 
    739 F.3d 241
    , 248–49
    (5th Cir. 2014). If either McKinney or the Government seeks appellate
    review following remand, the appeal will be assigned to this panel.
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