Randy Williams v. First National Bank , 769 F.3d 899 ( 2014 )


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  •       Case: 12-20687             Document: 00512805488   Page: 1   Date Filed: 10/16/2014
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    No. 12-20687                            FILED
    October 16, 2014
    Lyle W. Cayce
    In the Matter of: POSITIVE HEALTH MANAGEMENT,                                     Clerk
    Debtor
    ------------------------------
    RANDY W. WILLIAMS, Chapter 7 Trustee,
    Appellant
    v.
    FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION, as Receiver for First
    National Bank,
    Appellee
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Texas
    Before STEWART, Chief Judge, and WIENER and COSTA, Circuit Judges.
    GREGG COSTA, Circuit Judge:
    The Bankruptcy Code allows a trustee to recover fraudulent transfers
    made by the debtor prior to bankruptcy. 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (a). An innocent
    recipient of such a fraudulent transfer is not without a defense, however. The
    Code allows a transferee that takes in good faith to retain what it received from
    the debtor in a fraudulent transfer “to the extent that such transferee . . . gave
    value to the debtor in exchange for such transfer.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (c). This
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    appeal from a bankruptcy court decision that allowed the innocent recipient of
    fraudulent transfers to retain all the funds it received under the affirmative
    defense in section 548(c) turns on the meaning of “value” in this statute. We
    have already held that this value must be assessed from the perspective of
    what the transferee gave up rather than what the debtor received. Jimmy
    Swaggart Ministries v. Hayes (In re Hannover Corp.), 
    310 F.3d 796
    , 799–802
    (5th Cir. 2002). The unresolved question we must now decide is what happens
    when a transferee gave less value to the debtor than it received.        Is the
    transferee allowed to keep all that it received so long as it gave “reasonably
    equivalent” value in exchange? Or is netting required so that the transferee
    keeps only the value that it gave to the Debtor?
    I.
    Ronald T. Ziegler was the president and sole shareholder of Positive
    Health Management, Inc., which operated pain management clinics in Texas.
    In 2005, First National Bank made a refinance loan to a separate corporate
    entity owned by Ziegler. The loan was secured by a building in Garland, Texas,
    which Positive Health used for office space from September 2006 to March
    2008. Despite having no direct obligations under the loan, Positive Health
    made a series of payments to First National totaling $367,681.35.          The
    payments, which began in February 2007 and ended in March 2008, were listed
    on Positive Health’s tax returns as rent. When the payments stopped, First
    National foreclosed on the Garland property.
    After Positive Health filed a bankruptcy petition, trustee Randy
    Williams brought an adversary proceeding to recover the payments to First
    National as fraudulent transfers under 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    . The bankruptcy court
    conducted a three-day trial on the claim, after which it submitted Proposed
    Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
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    The bankruptcy court first addressed whether Williams could prove a
    constructive fraudulent transfer, which requires that the debtor “received less
    than a reasonably equivalent value in exchange for such transfer or
    obligation.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (a)(1)(B). The court found that Positive Health
    received at least reasonably equivalent value for the $367,681.35 in transfers
    to First National on two alternative grounds. First, the court cited First
    National’s forbearance from foreclosing on the Garland property, which
    allowed Positive Health to continue “running its operations and generating
    cash flow in the millions.” Second, the court cited the “reasonable rent” for the
    office space that the payments enabled Positive Health to continuing using,
    which the court determined was $253,333.33 based on an appraisal conducted
    in 2006.      Because Positive Health received value at least “reasonably
    equivalent” to the amount of the transfers, the court held that Williams could
    not prevail on the constructive fraudulent transfer claim.
    Nonetheless, for reasons not seriously challenged in this appeal, 1 the
    bankruptcy court concluded that Positive Health made the transfers “with
    actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud,” and therefore that Williams had
    established actual fraud. 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (a)(1)(A). The court made this finding
    pursuant to the multifactor test identified in Soza v. Hill (In re Soza), 
    542 F.3d 1060
    , 1067 (5th Cir. 2008), and noted Positive Health’s deteriorating financial
    1  First National argues that “the payments from Positive Health to First National
    could not constitute fraudulent transfers at all.” But it does not challenge the court’s finding
    of fraudulent transfer beyond an unsupported assertion that Williams offered “no proof
    whatsoever.” We therefore conclude that any challenge to the fraudulent transfer finding is
    waived. See Cavallini v. State Farm Mut. Auto Ins. Co., 
    44 F.3d 256
    , 260 n.9 (5th Cir. 1995)
    (“[T]he failure to provide any legal or factual analysis of an issue results in waiver of that
    issue.”). In any event, the reasons cited by the bankruptcy court were sufficient to support
    its finding of fraud.
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    condition and the fact that it faced lawsuits and judgments around the time of
    the transfers.
    The bankruptcy court then analyzed whether First National could
    establish the affirmative defense that it took the payments in good faith and
    gave value in return.        
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (c).       Relying on its discussion of
    “reasonably equivalent value” under the constructive fraudulent transfer
    analysis, the court determined that First National “gave value in exchange for
    the transfers” and acted in good faith. It therefore found that First National
    was entitled to the defense and could keep the funds.
    After the district court adopted the bankruptcy court’s proposed order,
    Williams filed a motion to amend the judgment, arguing that the affirmative
    defense had not been adequately pleaded and that the testimony concerning
    the market value of the rent was unreliable. The district court referred the
    motion back to the bankruptcy court, which held an additional hearing on First
    National’s section 548(c) affirmative defense. At the hearing, Williams called
    his own expert witness, who testified that the testimony of First National’s
    witness was not reliable for the purposes of determining rent in 2007 and 2008.
    The bankruptcy court noted in response that Williams “offered no evidence on
    the rental value of the Garland Property,” so its initial finding of market rent
    was uncontroverted. The district court again adopted the bankruptcy court’s
    recommendation, noting that First National “‘gave value’ to the debtor beyond
    the rental value of the property.” This appeal followed. 2
    2 The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation was appointed receiver of First National
    in September 2013, and was substituted as the defendant in this appeal. For clarity, and
    because First National was the defendant at the time of briefing and the trial court
    proceedings, this opinion will refer to the defendant as First National.
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    II.
    “In reviewing the rulings of the bankruptcy court on direct appeal and
    the district court sitting in bankruptcy, we review findings of fact for clear error
    and conclusions of law de novo. We review mixed questions of law and fact de
    novo.”     TMT Procurement Corp. v. Vantage Drilling Co. (In re TMT
    Procurement Corp.), 
    764 F.3d 512
    , 519 (5th Cir. 2014) (per curiam) (internal
    citations omitted); see also Hannover, 
    310 F.3d at
    799–800. A bankruptcy
    court’s valuation “is largely a question of fact, as to which considerable latitude
    must be allowed to the trier of the facts.” Hannover, 
    310 F.3d at 801
     (internal
    quotation marks omitted). However, “we review de novo the methodology
    employed by the bankruptcy court in assigning values to the property
    transferred and the consideration received.” 
    Id.
     (internal quotation marks and
    citation omitted).
    III.
    Under 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (a), the trustee of a bankruptcy estate may avoid
    certain transfers made by the debtor before bankruptcy proceedings if the
    transfer was made with actual or constructive fraudulent intent. But even
    when a debtor has made a fraudulent transfer under that provision, an
    innocent recipient of that transfer is able to retain what it received if the
    conditions set out in section 548(c) are met:
    [A] transferee or obligee of such a transfer or obligation that takes
    for value and in good faith has a lien on or may retain any interest
    transferred or may enforce any obligation incurred, as the case
    may be, to the extent that such transferee or obligee gave value to
    the debtor in exchange for such transfer or obligation.
    The provision is “perfectly complementary” with section 548(a), which allows
    trustees to claw back fraudulent transfers. Hannover, 
    310 F.3d at 802
    . Section
    548(a) “affords creditors a remedy for the debtor’s fraudulence or, as the case
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    might be, mere improvidence,” whereas section 548(c) “protects the transferee
    from his unfortunate selection of business partners.” 
    Id.
    To establish its entitlement to the section 548(c) defense, a transferee
    must prove that it “provided value in good faith” for the transfer. In re Am.
    Hous. Found., 544 F. App’x 516, 520 (5th Cir. 2013) (per curiam). A transferee
    provides value when it receives the transfer in question in exchange for
    “property, or satisfaction or securing of a present or antecedent debt of the
    debtor.”   
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (d)(2)(A).   Williams does not dispute that First
    National acted in good faith when it accepted funds from Positive Health as
    payments on a loan made to another Ziegler entity, but contends that First
    National failed to prove that it provided value. He attacks both grounds upon
    which the bankruptcy court found value. First, he contends that finding value
    based on the benefit to Positive Health of its extended ability to use the
    Garland property did not assess value from the perspective of First National
    as transferee.   Second, Williams questions the evidence presented on the
    reasonable rental value of the property: he agrees that the court properly
    evaluated this “value” from the transferee’s perspective, but he challenges its
    reliability.
    This court’s decision in Jimmy Swaggart Ministries v. Hayes (In re
    Hannover Corp.), 
    310 F.3d 796
     (5th Cir. 2002), clarified the meaning of “value”
    under section 548(c). In that case, prior to the bankruptcy proceedings, Sam
    J. Recile was found in violation of the securities laws for operating a Ponzi
    scheme. 
    Id. at 798, 802
    . The trustee brought an action to recover funds from
    Jimmy Swaggart Ministries, which received them from Recile’s enterprise in
    exchange for short-term call options for the purchase of a tract of land. 
    Id.
     at
    798–99. In response, Jimmy Swaggart Ministries asserted the section 548(c)
    defense.   
    Id. at 799
    . The trustee argued that the options were valueless
    because the fraudulent nature of Recile’s enterprise meant that it lacked the
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    resources to pay anything close to the land’s $11.25 million purchase price set
    forth in the option agreement, and thus that Jimmy Swaggart Ministries did
    not “give value” in exchange for the transfers it received. 
    Id.
     at 801–02.
    This court rejected that argument, holding that “value” under
    section 548(c) is measured from the transferee’s perspective, and therefore that
    whether the options had any actual value to Recile’s enterprise was irrelevant:
    Instead of inquiring into the possibility and extent of the debtor’s
    loss, [section 548(c)] provides a means by which the unwitting
    trading partner can protect himself. Received property can be
    retained “to the extent” that the “transferee . . . gave value to the
    debtor.” The provision looks at value from the perspective of the
    transferee: How much did the transferee “give”? The concern here,
    quite properly, is for the transferee’s side of the exchange, not the
    transferor’s gain.
    
    Id. at 802
    . The court thus found that the option to buy the property was “a
    very valuable asset” from the perspective of Jimmy Swaggart Ministries, the
    transferee, because it tied up its ability to sell to other willing buyers. 
    Id.
     at
    803–04.
    In measuring “value” under section 548(c), therefore, this court looks not
    to “the transferor’s gain,” but rather to the value that the transferee gave up
    as its side of the bargain. 3 In this case, First National as transferee argues
    3 In cases brought under state fraudulent transfer law, we have focused instead on
    the value of the consideration to the transferor. In Janvey v. Brown, --- F.3d ----, 
    2014 WL 4627972
    , at *7–8 (5th Cir. Sept. 11, 2014), for example, we held that the trustee of a bankrupt
    Ponzi scheme could claw back interest payments to innocent investors. Janvey rejected the
    investor-defendants’ argument that the debtor’s use of their money established that they
    gave value in exchange for the interest payments. 
    Id. at *7
    . The court noted that “[t]he
    primary consideration in analyzing the exchange for value for any transfer is the degree to
    which the transferor’s net worth is preserved” because “creditors are not . . . defrauded if all
    that happens is the exchange of an existing asset of the debtor for a different asset of equal
    value.” 
    Id. at *8
     (alterations in original) (quoting Warfield v. Byron, 
    436 F.3d 551
    , 560 (5th
    Cir. 2006), and Scholes v. Lehmann, 
    56 F.3d 750
    , 753 (7th Cir. 1995)) Because the Ponzi
    scheme’s financial condition was only worsened by the interest payments, the investors had
    not given value in exchange for the interest payments. 
    Id.
     As the Hannover decision makes
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    that the estate cannot recover the payments because the value of First
    National’s forbearance—which the bankruptcy court noted was the potential
    for Positive Health to generate cash flow from ongoing operations that
    ultimately earned the company over $4 million in revenue—exceeds the
    $367,681.35 that First National received. But just as it was irrelevant in
    Hannover whether Recile’s operation received any real value from options it
    could not exercise, it is irrelevant that Positive Health received outsized
    benefits from First National’s forbearance.               Both examples fail to follow
    Hannover’s instruction that value given up should be measured from the
    transferee’s perspective—instead, they measure the value of the transferee’s
    consideration as the transferor would. 4
    The alternative form of value found by the bankruptcy court, market
    rent, does analyze value from the correct perspective. Just as tying up land
    was costly to the transferee in Hannover, allowing Positive Health to stay in
    the Garland property was costly to First National. By giving up the chance to
    foreclose and find a new tenant, First National incurred an opportunity cost in
    the form of foregone market rent. 5
    Because First National received the loan payments in lieu of rent it could
    have otherwise earned, it gave value within the meaning of section 548(c).
    clear, however, we focus on the value of the exchange to the transferee for the purposes of
    section 548(c) of the federal Bankruptcy Code.
    4 In fact, the bankruptcy court’s finding of value under section 548(c) simply
    incorporated its finding of value under section 548(a)(1)(B). Under the latter provision,
    unlike the former, value is properly determined from the transferor’s perspective. See Butler
    Aviation Int’l Inc. v. Whyte (In re Fairchild Aircraft Corp.), 
    6 F.3d 1119
    , 1127 (5th Cir. 1993)
    (“[T]he recognized test is whether the investment conferred an economic benefit on the
    debtor.”).
    5 Contrary to First National’s argument, the two valuations offered by the bankruptcy
    court are not two independent forms of value that the bank gave to Positive Health. Rather,
    they are two different ways of analyzing the value of First National’s forbearance. Because
    only the rental value of the property measures value from First National’s own perspective,
    it is the appropriate measure in this case.
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    Although the rent measure properly assesses value from the standpoint of the
    transferee, Williams contends that the bankruptcy court erroneously
    calculated the market rent because it relied on an appraisal of the Garland
    building from January 2006 when the transfers occurred in 2007 and 2008. It
    is true that “for purposes of § 548 the value of an investment . . . is to be
    determined at the time of purchase.”        Hannover, 
    310 F.3d at 802
    .       The
    bankruptcy court, however, did determine that “the reasonable rental rate
    from September 2006 to March 2008”—which includes the entire period in
    question—“was $253,333.33.” It was not clearly erroneous based on the record
    in this case to use the January 2006 appraisal—the only evidence offered for
    market value—to assess rental value for the 27 months that followed the
    appraisal. To hold otherwise would present significant practical problems for
    trial judges who often must make findings of fact based on imperfect evidence.
    There is no reason to question the bankruptcy court’s finding, particularly
    given the “considerable latitude” we must give it in this situation.         See
    Hannover, 
    310 F.3d at 801
    . We therefore affirm the finding that First National
    was entitled to the section 548(c) defense because it acted in good faith and
    provided value in return.
    IV.
    This brings us to the “netting” question identified at the outset. Williams
    contends that even if the affirmative defense applies, section 548(c) requires
    this court to reduce the value of the fraudulent transfers ($367,681.35) by the
    value of the market rent ($253,333.33), and to award the estate the
    $114,348.02 difference. This argument is based on the text of section 548(c),
    which provides that if a transferee shows it has taken in good faith and for
    value, then it “may retain any interest transferred . . . to the extent that such
    transferee . . . gave value to the debtor in exchange for such transfer or
    obligation.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (c) (emphasis added). The bankruptcy court took
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    a looser approach, finding (in the alternative) that First National was entitled
    to keep the entirety of the transfers because the rental value was “reasonably
    equivalent” to the amount of the transfer. Although the district court appeared
    to recognize that netting may be appropriate in some situations, emphasizing
    section 548(c)’s “to the extent” language, it found that First National “‘gave
    value’ to the debtor beyond the rental value of the property,” and therefore that
    netting was not necessary in this case. It reached this conclusion based on the
    value that Positive Health received from continuing operations in the Garland
    office, an assessment that we have already concluded is at odds with Hannover.
    First National rejects what it terms a “rigid ‘netting’ approach,” arguing
    instead that a transferee is allowed to keep all of the fraudulent transfers when
    it establishes the section 548(c) defense so long as the values exchanged are
    “reasonably equivalent.” The term “reasonably equivalent value” appears in
    section 548(a)(1)(B)(i) as a factor in the determination of constructive
    fraudulent transfer. It does not appear in section 548(c). Nonetheless, the
    bankruptcy court equated the two terms, citing Hannover: “In analyzing
    whether a transferee gave value, the Fifth Circuit adopted the analysis of
    reasonably equivalent value under § 548.” Although a number of bankruptcy
    courts have similarly cited Hannover for the proposition that “value” under
    section 548(c) means “reasonably equivalent value,” 6 this reading is mistaken.
    Hannover only held that “the standard for appellate review of trial court
    determinations of ‘value’ under § 548(c)” is the same as “this court’s approach
    to the review of trial court determinations of ‘reasonably equivalent value’”
    under section 548(a). 
    310 F.3d at 801
     (emphasis added). Nonetheless, even
    some courts that do not rely on this “standard of review” language from
    See Dobin v. Hill (In re Hill), 
    342 B.R. 183
    , 203 (Bankr. D.N.J. 2006); Satriale v. Key
    6
    Bank USA, N.A. (In re Burry), 
    309 B.R. 130
    , 136 (Bankr. E.D. Pa. 2004).
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    Hannover have held that section 548(c) “value” means “reasonably equivalent
    value.” See, e.g., Balaber-Strauss v. Sixty-Five Brokers (In re Churchill Mortg.
    Inv. Corp.), 
    256 B.R. 664
    , 677 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2000), aff’d sub nom. Balaber-
    Strauss v. Lawrence, 
    264 B.R. 303
     (S.D.N.Y. 2001).
    This is not, however, the only conclusion reached by courts that have
    considered the issue. Others have treated “value” and “reasonably equivalent
    value” as having distinct meanings. See Leonard v. Coolidge (In re Nat’l Audit
    Def. Network), 
    367 B.R. 207
    , 223 (Bankr. D. Nev. 2007); cf. Salven v. Munday
    (In re Kemmer), 
    265 B.R. 224
    , 234–35 (Bankr. E.D. Cal. 2001) (noting, in the
    context of 
    11 U.S.C. § 550
    (a), which sets out a trustee’s right of recovery from
    an avoided fraudulent transfer, that “value” “is not necessarily synonymous
    with either ‘reasonably equivalent value’ [under section 548(a)(1)(B)] or ‘fair
    market value’”). The Collier treatise also takes the view that “value” in section
    548(c) is different than “reasonably equivalent value.” In comparing section
    548(c) with the corresponding provision of the Uniform Fraudulent Transfer
    Act, the treatise provides a helpful comparison:
    [A]ssume that a debtor [sold his brother a car worth $12,000 for
    $11,000] to put the car out of the reach of the debtor’s creditors,
    but the brother did not know of the fraud or of his brother’s
    financial condition. . . . Under [section 548(c)], the transaction is
    . . . set aside, but the brother has a lien on the car to the extent of
    $11,000; under state law, assuming that $11,000 is reasonably
    equivalent value for a $12,000 car, the brother has a complete
    defense to avoidance.
    5 COLLIER ON BANKRUPTCY ¶ 548.09[5] (16th ed. 2014) (quoting Nat’l Audit
    Def. Network, 
    367 B.R. at 233
    ).
    We agree with Collier’s reading of section 548(c). It is unlikely that the
    drafters of the Bankruptcy Code intended “value” under section 548(c) to mean
    “reasonably equivalent value” when the latter term is explicitly used in
    another subsection of the same statute (section 548(a)’s provision for
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    constructive fraudulent transfers). See Sosa v. Alvarez-Machain, 
    542 U.S. 692
    ,
    711 n.9 (2004) (“[W]hen the legislature uses certain language in one part of the
    statute and different language in another, the court assumes different
    meanings were intended.”). And the exclusion of these words is particularly
    telling in light of the Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act’s use of “reasonably
    equivalent value” in its corresponding affirmative defense to avoidance of a
    fraudulent transfer. 7      See 5 COLLIER, supra, ¶ 548.09[5] (comparing the
    Bankruptcy Code and UFTA, and noting that only the latter gives the
    transferee “a complete defense” if it “gave reasonably equivalent value for the
    exchange” (emphasis added)); In re Nat’l Audit Def. Network, 
    367 B.R. at 223
    (same); Jack F. Williams, Revisiting the Proper Limits of Fraudulent Transfer
    Law, 8 BANKR. DEV. J. 55, 111 (1991) (noting that when a transferee gives
    “reasonably equivalent value” that is less than actual value, the transferee “is
    afforded additional protection under Section 8(a) of the UFTA beyond that
    provided under Section 548(c) of the Code”).
    Apart from the need to give different meanings to different terms used
    in the same statute, even viewed on its own the text of section 548(c) supports
    the netting approach. The last clause of the statute, beginning with “to the
    extent,” makes clear that a transferee is entitled to keep only the amount of a
    fraudulent transfer that equals the amount it gave up in exchange.                      See
    Hannover, 
    310 F.3d at 802
     (noting that “[r]eceived property can be retained ‘to
    the extent’ that the ‘transferee . . . gave value to the debtor’”). And if, as the
    bankruptcy court implicitly found, netting is not appropriate because “value”
    means “reasonably equivalent value,” this reads the “to the extent” clause out
    of section 548(c) as establishing reasonably equivalent value under the first
    7  See UNIF. FRAUDULENT TRANSFER ACT § 8(a) (“A transfer or obligation is not voidable
    . . . against a person who took in good faith and for a reasonably equivalent value.”).
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    clause would be all that a transferee needs to show. See 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (c) (“[A]
    transferee . . . that takes for value and in good faith . . . may retain any interest
    transferred . . . to the extent that such transferee . . . gave value.” (emphasis
    added)).
    First National argues that a “rigid netting approach” is not appropriate
    because “for more than four hundred years, the good faith and ‘value’ defense
    merely required ‘good consideration’ rather than some precise mathematical
    equivalence of value.” But it is because transferees who merely give “good
    consideration” in exchange for fraudulent transfers are entitled to the defense
    that netting is necessary. Consideration need not be “reasonably equivalent”
    to be valid.     See Scholes v. Lehmann, 
    56 F.3d 750
    , 756 (7th Cir. 1995)
    (“[O]rdinarily a court will not even permit inquiry into the adequacy of the
    consideration for a promise or a transfer.”). And because consideration may be
    disproportionately small, to hold that a transferee who merely gives “good
    consideration” in exchange for a fraudulent transfer may keep the entire
    amount would allow it to benefit at the expense of the debtor’s creditors based
    on the fortuity that it received a fraudulent transfer. 8
    Courts have thus netted the amounts received in a fraudulent transfer
    against the value given to the debtor. See, e.g., Clark v. Sec. Pac. Bus. Credit,
    Inc. (In re Wes Dor, Inc.), 
    996 F.2d 237
    , 243 (10th Cir. 1993) (“[T]he Bank was
    the transferee of a fraudulent transfer from the Debtor. As such, it became
    liable to the bankruptcy estate for the amount of the transfer less any value it
    extended to the Debtor in exchange for that transfer.”); In re Telesphere
    Comm’ns, Inc., 
    179 B.R. 544
    , 559 (Bankr. N.D. Ill. 1994) (for the purposes of
    8 In trying to defend the equity of retaining the full transfer, First National claims
    that it was “entitled” to repayment of the loan it made. That is true, but beside the point.
    Positive Health’s other creditors were also entitled to compensation—that is what makes
    them creditors—and allowing First National to keep the full amount of the transfers reduces
    their potential recovery.
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    comparing a settlement to the likely outcome of litigation, netting a $92.7
    million fraudulent transfer with the $38.9 million value given by the
    transferee). The netting issue often arises in Ponzi scheme cases. The trustee
    of a bankrupt Ponzi scheme typically files fraudulent transfer claims against
    “net winner” investors to claw back profits they have received. The “general
    rule” is that while transfers to innocent investors are fraudulent, the
    “defrauded investor gives ‘value’ to the Debtor in exchange for a return of the
    principal amount of the investment, but not as to any payments in excess of
    principal.” 9 Perkins v. Haines, 
    661 F.3d 623
    , 627 (11th Cir. 2011); see also
    Janvey, 
    2014 WL 4627972
    , at *6–8; Donell v. Kowell, 
    533 F.3d 762
    , 770 (9th
    Cir. 2008); Scholes, 
    56 F.3d at
    757–58.
    The language of the Bankruptcy Code and the policies it embodies
    therefore lead us to the following conclusion: A good faith transferee is entitled
    to the protections of section 548(c) when it gives any value in return, but only
    to the extent of that value. When a transferee receives a fraudulent transfer
    the value of which exceeds the consideration it gave up in return, section 548(c)
    requires netting.
    We recognize that not all cases will lend themselves to valuation at a
    precise dollar amount, such as the rental value determined by the bankruptcy
    court in this case. But this presents less of a problem than First National
    suggests. Many section 548 transfers to which the good faith defense applies
    9 The defrauded investor will be found to have given value to the enterprise in the
    form of the surrender of her fraud claim against the debtor. Janvey, 
    2014 WL 4627972
    , at *8
    (“[T]he principal payments were payments of an antecedent debt, namely fraud claims that
    the investor-defendants have as victims of the Stanford Ponzi scheme.”). Anything above
    that (or in some cases, above the principal plus interest payments, see In re Carrozzella &
    Richardson, 
    286 B.R. 480
    , 492 (D. Conn. 2002)), “exceed[s] the scope of the investors’ fraud
    claim and may be subject to recovery by a plan trustee.” Perkins, 
    661 F.3d at 627
    .
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    involve the purchase of an asset at its fair market price. 10 This is the reason
    Hannover did not present the netting issue; there was no reason to doubt that
    the option to purchase the land was acquired at a market price that accurately
    reflected the value of that option. But in more unusual transfers, such as the
    one in this case and as in the Ponzi context, dollar-for-dollar netting is both
    practicable and important in balancing the interests of creditors with the
    interests of transferees. Bankruptcy courts may simply continue applying the
    tools they use to determine the value of assets in many contexts to determine
    value under section 548(c).
    We therefore hold that Williams, as trustee of the bankruptcy estate, is
    entitled to recover the $114,348.02 difference between the payments First
    National received and the value it gave in return.
    *     *      *
    For these reasons, we AFFIRM the district court’s finding of fraudulent
    transfer under section 548(a)(1)(A) to the extent First National challenges it
    on appeal. We also AFFIRM the district court’s conclusion that First National
    is entitled to the section 548(c) defense, but REVERSE its take-nothing
    judgment in favor of First National. Instead, judgment is RENDERED in favor
    of Williams in the amount of $114,348.02.
    10 When there is a vast imbalance in the values exchanged that would be apparent to
    the transferee, it may be difficult to establish the good faith requirement.
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