In re: Vill. Apothecary ( 2022 )


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    Pursuant to Sixth Circuit I.O.P. 32.1(b)
    File Name: 22a0191p.06
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
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    IN RE: VILLAGE APOTHECARY, INC.,
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    Debtor.               │
    ___________________________________________                 >        No. 21-1555
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    SILVERMAN & MORRIS, P.L.L.C.,                               │
    Appellant.              │
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    Appeal from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan at Detroit;
    No. 2:21-cv-10892—Stephen J. Murphy, III, District Judge.
    United States Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Michigan;
    No. 2:15-bk-56003—Thomas J. Tucker, Judge.
    Argued: March 8, 2022
    Decided and Filed: August 16, 2022
    Before: GILMAN, STRANCH, and NALBANDIAN, Circuit Judges.
    _________________
    COUNSEL
    ARGUED: Thomas R. Morris, MORRIS & MORRIS ATTORNEYS, P.L.L.C., Dexter,
    Michigan, for Appellant. ON BRIEF:         Thomas R. Morris, MORRIS & MORRIS
    ATTORNEYS, P.L.L.C., Dexter, Michigan, for Appellant.
    _________________
    OPINION
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    NALBANDIAN, Circuit Judge. As special counsel, the law firm of Silverman & Morris
    recovered $38,000 for the estate in this bankruptcy proceeding. For its services, the firm wanted
    $37,063 in fees. But the bankruptcy court, finding that the benefit of the services did not warrant
    awarding the full amount, halved the award, and the firm appealed. On appeal, we must address
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    two issues.      The first is whether bankruptcy courts can consider “results obtained” when
    determining whether fees are reasonable under § 330(a)(3) of the Bankruptcy Code. The second
    is whether the bankruptcy court abused its discretion in reducing the fees by half. We answer
    yes to the first and no to the second. So we AFFIRM.
    I.
    We divide our discussion of the background into three parts. First, we explain the
    relevant statutory background. Then we recount the facts. And finally, the procedural history.
    A.
    Under the Bankruptcy Code, courts “may award” a “reasonable compensation” to a
    “professional person” for their services. 
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a). The main issue here deals with
    how courts determine the amount of reasonable compensation. Before 1994, § 330 instructed
    courts to look at “the time, the nature, the extent, and the value” of the services as well as the
    costs of “comparable services.”              Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1978, Pub. L. No. 95-598,
    § 330(a)(1), 
    92 Stat. 2549
    , 2564 (1978). But without more guidance, courts came up with
    different approaches to answer the question.
    One approach looked to Title VII, which, like the Bankruptcy Code, gives courts
    discretion to award “reasonable . . . fees.” 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-5(k); Johnson v. Ga. Highway
    Express, Inc., 
    488 F.2d 714
     (5th Cir. 1974), abrogated on other grounds by Blanchard v.
    Bergeron, 
    489 U.S. 87
     (1989). In Johnson, the Fifth Circuit used twelve factors to analyze
    whether attorney’s fees were reasonable under Title VII.1 
    488 F.2d at
    717–19. And some courts
    integrated these factors to the bankruptcy context. See, e.g., Harman v. Levin, 
    772 F.2d 1150
    ,
    1152 n.1 (4th Cir. 1985); see also 3 Collier on Bankruptcy § 330.03(9) & n.71 (16th ed. 2022)
    (collecting cases).
    1
    These factors are: (1) the time and labor required, (2) the novelty and difficulty of the questions, (3) the
    skills requisite to perform the legal services properly, (4) the preclusion of other employment by the attorney for
    acceptance of the case, (5) the customary fee, (6) whether the fee is fixed or contingent, (7) time limitations imposed
    by the client or the circumstances, (8) the amount involved and the results obtained, (9) the experience, reputation,
    and ability of the attorneys, (10) the “undesirability” of the case, (11) the nature and length of the professional
    relationship with the client, and (12) awards in similar cases. 
    488 F.2d at
    717–19.
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    Another approach, adopted by this Court, required bankruptcy courts to calculate
    reasonable compensation by using the “lodestar method.” See In re Boddy, 
    950 F.2d 334
    , 337
    (6th Cir. 1991). Under Boddy’s approach, bankruptcy courts first determine the “lodestar”
    amount by “multiplying the attorney’s reasonable hourly rate by the number of hours reasonably
    expended.” 
    Id.
     (quoting Grant v. George Schumann Tire & Battery Co., 
    908 F.2d 874
    , 879 (11th
    Cir. 1990)). Then, and only then, may the court “exercise its discretion” and vary the award
    based on the same Johnson factors.2 
    Id.
     at 338 (citing Harman, 
    772 F.2d at
    1152 n.1). Relevant
    here is the eighth factor, which asks courts to consider the “amount involved and the results
    obtained.” Johnson, 
    488 F.2d at 718
    .
    In 1994, Congress amended § 330, codifying many, but not all, of these factors. See
    Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1994, Pub. L. No. 103-394, § 224, 
    108 Stat. 4106
    , 4130–31 (1994);
    see also 3 Collier, 
    supra,
     § 330.03(9) (“A majority of the Johnson criteria are now codified in
    section 330(a)(3).”). Section 330(a)(3) now instructs courts to “consider the nature, the extent,
    and the value of such services, taking into account all relevant factors, including” the time spent,
    rates charged, “whether the services were necessary to the administration of, or beneficial at the
    time at which the service was rendered,” among others. 
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a)(3). But the statute
    does not mention the “results obtained” factor.
    Although § 330 gives bankruptcy courts broad discretion to award fees, it categorically
    excludes fees in three circumstances. Under § 330(a)(4), “the court shall not allow compensation
    for” (1) “unnecessary duplication of services,” (2) “services that were not reasonably likely to
    benefit the debtor’s estate,” or (3) services that were not “necessary to the administration of the
    case.” Id. § 330(a)(4).
    The interplay between § 330(a)(3) and § 330(a)(4) underlies much of our discussion
    below.       Unlike § 330(a)(3), which concerns how to determine “the amount of reasonable
    compensation,” § 330(a)(4) deals with a precursory question: whether the fees are compensable.
    In other words, if fees are not barred by § 330(a)(4), they are not automatically awarded.
    2
    The Boddy court did not explicitly call these factors the Johnson factors, but it cited Harman, the Fourth
    Circuit case that adopts and discusses the Johnson factors. For ease, we will call the Johnson factors the “lodestar
    factors” unless citing other sources.
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    Instead, courts look at the factors in § 330(a)(3) to determine whether it should reduce those fees.
    Since the 1994 Amendment, we have not considered whether bankruptcy courts may
    continue to consider, for the § 330(a)(3) analysis, other lodestar factors—like “results
    obtained”—that were not codified. This case raises that question.
    B.
    In 2015, the Village Apothecary, a pharmacy in Ann Arbor, Michigan, filed for Chapter 7
    bankruptcy. Shortly after, the bankruptcy court appointed Douglas Ellmann as trustee and the
    law firm of Silverman & Morris as the trustee’s special counsel. The law firm was brought on to
    investigate potential causes of action that, if successful, could have benefitted the estate by at
    least $1,655,962, or so the law firm thought.
    The law firm embarked on a year-long investigation of the debtor’s finances.               It
    discovered, among other things, that the pharmacy could pursue certain actions against the
    pharmacy’s president, Garry Turner. As it turned out, Turner had failed to repay a loan he owed
    the pharmacy. He also transferred some inventory from the pharmacy to a different company
    that he owned. And while the pharmacy had an option to buy the place it was renting, Turner
    and his wife had created a separate company, bought the property, and sold it for a profit.
    Believing that Turner had breached his fiduciary duty to the pharmacy and converted its
    property, the law firm drafted a complaint against Turner.
    The law firm, however, never filed the complaint. Instead, it showed the complaint to
    Turner’s attorney, who disputed the claims. Turner’s attorney explained that the pharmacy could
    not purchase the property and that some of the other claims were untimely. As a result, the law
    firm (and the trustee) thought the claims would go nowhere and settled with Turner for $38,000.
    Apart from this $38,000, there was not much left in the pharmacy’s assets, which totaled
    $40,710.87.
    The law firm believed that it was entitled to fees for its services, so it filed a fee
    application under § 330. It asked for a little over $37,000, which, if granted, would have
    amounted to “90.6%” of the estate’s assets. The trustee and the trustee’s attorneys also filed for
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    fees. The bankruptcy court considered all three together. Although there were no objections to
    the fee applications, the bankruptcy court thought it was necessary to hold a hearing to determine
    whether the fee amounts should be reduced “given the amount of the benefit to the estate.”
    C.
    Following the hearing, the bankruptcy court determined that the fees should be reduced
    by half. It found that the law firm and the trustee’s professional fees would amount to 100% of
    the amount collected for the estate, “leaving nothing to be distributed to . . . creditors.” (R. 4,
    Bankruptcy Order, PageID 198.) After a series of back-and-forths with the district court (where
    the latter reversed the bankruptcy court twice), the bankruptcy court considered the fee
    application for a third time, again holding that the law firm’s fees should be reduced by half.
    The bankruptcy court based its decision on two separate rationales. First, the court applied the
    lodestar factors, balancing the “amount in controversy” with the “results obtained” and
    concluded that the level of success was essentially nothing (since nothing would be left over for
    the creditors). In the alternative, the court relied on a “billing judgment” argument, a term it
    used to capture the idea that attorneys in non-bankruptcy cases typically reduce their fees so their
    clients can get a share of the award. The court explained that this factor was unnecessary to its
    decision because it would have reduced the fees by 50% based on the first rationale.
    The law firm appealed to the district court again. This time, the district court affirmed,
    finding that the bankruptcy court’s application of the “results obtained” factor was proper. The
    district court held that “results obtained” is still a relevant lodestar factor and determined that the
    bankruptcy court did not abuse its discretion in reducing fees by 50%. The law firm appealed.
    II.
    We review a bankruptcy court’s award of fees under the abuse of discretion standard. In
    re Boddy, 
    950 F.2d at 336
    . This is a “highly deferential” standard, so we disturb a decision only
    if it is based on clearly erroneous findings of facts, improperly applies the law, or relies on an
    incorrect legal standard. Doe v. Mich. State Univ., 
    989 F.3d 418
    , 426 (6th Cir. 2021). The party
    requesting the fees has the “burden of proof as to entitlement to and reasonableness of” those
    fees. In re McLean Wine Co., 
    463 B.R. 838
    , 846 (Bankr. E.D. Mich. 2011) (quoting In re
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    Kieffer, 
    306 B.R. 197
    , 206 (Bankr. N.D. Ohio 2004)); see also In re Mkt. Ctr. E. Retail Prop.,
    Inc., 
    730 F.3d 1239
    , 1246 (10th Cir. 2013) (“The burden is on the party requesting fees to
    establish that its request is reasonable.”).
    III.
    On appeal, the law firm makes two arguments. First, it claims that § 330(a)(3) of the
    Bankruptcy Code now bars courts from considering “results obtained” as a factor in determining
    the reasonableness of fees. And second, it argues that the court abused its discretion in reducing
    the fees by half.3 We address each in turn.
    A.
    In Boddy, we explained the framework that bankruptcy courts must use in determining
    the reasonableness of fees under § 330. 
    950 F.2d at 337
    . First, courts must calculate the
    “lodestar amount” of fees, which is determined by “multiplying the attorney’s reasonable hourly
    rate by the number of hours reasonably expended.” 
    Id.
     (quoting Grant, 
    908 F.2d at 879
    ). Then
    courts can look to the lodestar factors, which include the “results obtained.” 
    Id.
     at 338 (citing
    Harman, 
    772 F.2d at
    1152 n.1).                But, as mentioned, Boddy was decided before the 1994
    Amendment, and we have not since considered how that Amendment impacted the Boddy
    framework. The law firm argues that the Amendment bars bankruptcy courts from considering
    “results obtained.” As the law firm sees it, the Bankruptcy Code now requires courts to look at
    the benefit of the services only at the time services were rendered, which conflicts with looking
    at whether the services result in a benefit to the estate. We disagree.
    1.
    Section 330(a)(3) does not preclude courts from considering “results obtained” as a
    relevant factor. When interpreting a statute, the inquiry “begins with the statutory text, and ends
    there as well if the text is unambiguous.” Binno v. Am. Bar Ass’n, 
    826 F.3d 338
    , 346 (6th Cir.
    2016) (quoting BedRoc Ltd. v. United States, 
    541 U.S. 176
    , 183 (2004)). Section 330(a)(3)
    3
    The firm also challenges the bankruptcy court’s alternative rationale that lawyers generally exercise
    billing judgment and decrease their fees. But, like the district court, we will not address this argument as it does not
    affect the outcome.
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    provides that, “[i]n determining the amount of reasonable compensation to be awarded” to a
    “professional person, the court shall consider the nature, the extent, and the value of such
    services.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a)(3). And it instructs the courts to “tak[e] into account all relevant
    factors, including” the time spent, rates charged, “whether the services were necessary . . . or
    beneficial at the time at which the service was rendered,” as well as other factors. 
    Id.
    This language, contrary to the law firm’s contention, does not exclude courts from
    considering the “results obtained” as a lodestar factor. Not only does the statute introduce the
    list of factors with the word “including,” it also permits courts to consider “all relevant factors.”
    
    Id.
     Both textual hooks refute the law firm’s conclusion that bankruptcy courts cannot consider
    “results obtained.”
    Although context matters, most courts read the word “include” to introduce a
    nonexhaustive list.    See, e.g., Samantar v. Yousuf, 
    560 U.S. 305
    , 316–17 & n.10 (2010);
    Cumberland Reclamation Co. v. Sec’y, U.S. Dep’t of Interior, 
    925 F.2d 164
    , 167 (6th Cir. 1991)
    (“[T]he use of the word ‘including’ indicates that Congress did not intend for the list to be
    exhaustive.”); see also Antonin Scalia & Bryan A. Garner, Reading Law: The Interpretation of
    Legal Text 132–33 (2012) (explaining that “include does not ordinarily introduce an exhaustive
    list” but “introduces examples”). Thus, when a statute introduces a list of factors with the word
    “include,” courts are not bound by that list and may consider other factors not provided. See
    Google LLC v. Oracle Am., Inc., 
    141 S. Ct. 1183
    , 1196–97 (2021) (explaining that the factors
    listed in 
    17 U.S.C. § 107
    , the fair-use provision, are “not exhaustive” because they are introduced
    by the word “include”). Here § 330(a)(3) does just that. It introduces the factors that bankruptcy
    courts should consider by using the word “including.” So Congress was listing some of the
    factors that courts may consider, and we cannot read the statute as limiting the bankruptcy
    courts’ ability to consider factors not listed.
    Moreover, Congress explicitly instructed courts to consider “all relevant factors.”
    
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a)(3). It is a basic canon of statutory interpretation that “[e]very word in the
    statute is presumed to have meaning” and that courts should “give effect to all the words to avoid
    an interpretation which would render words superfluous or redundant.”            King v. Zamiara,
    
    788 F.3d 207
    , 212 (6th Cir. 2015) (quoting Walker v. Bain, 
    257 F.3d 660
    , 667 (6th Cir. 2001)).
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    Were the factors listed in § 330(a)(3) meant to be exhaustive, then the directive to consider “all
    relevant factors” would be meaningless. After all, what work would that directive be doing if
    Congress meant courts to consider only the listed factors? Congress could have, for example,
    stated that courts should “take into account the following factors.” But it did not. It used the
    language of “all relevant factors,” and we interpret such language broadly. See Cudahy Packing
    Co. of La. v. Holland, 
    315 U.S. 357
    , 361 (1942) (“We cannot read ‘any or all’ as meaning
    ‘some.’”).
    We have also interpreted a provision with similar language in the same way. See United
    States ex rel. Felten v. William Beaumont Hosp., 
    993 F.3d 428
    , 434 (6th Cir. 2021), cert. denied
    sub nom., 
    142 S. Ct. 896
     (2022). In Felten, we considered the relief provision in the False
    Claims Act. See 
    id.
     That provision provides that an employee “shall be entitled to all relief
    necessary” and that this “[r]elief . . . shall include reinstatement . . . [two] times the amount of
    back pay, interest on the back pay, and compensation for any special damages.” 
    31 U.S.C. § 3730
    (h)(2) (emphasis added). We explained that the remedies listed were “not exhaustive.”
    See Felton, 993 F.3d at 434. To reach that conclusion, we emphasized the same language
    relevant here—the statute provided for “all relief necessary,” and introduced the remedies by
    using “shall include.” Id. Other remedies not listed, we found, were available. Felten’s
    reasoning applies with full force here. Section 330(a)(3) instructs courts to consider “all relevant
    factors” and introduces a list of factors by using “including,” so like in Felten, courts may
    consider other factors.
    To be sure, courts sometimes interpret “include,” depending on the context, to introduce an
    exhaustive list. See Carcieri v. Salazar, 
    555 U.S. 379
    , 391–92 (2009) (holding that a list
    following “shall include” was exhaustive where Congress “defined the term by including only
    three discrete definitions”); see also Cyrus v. Univ. of Toledo, No. 20-3913, 
    2022 WL 985819
    , at
    *9–13 (6th Cir. Apr. 1, 2022) (Nalbandian, J., dissenting) (collecting cases). But nothing in
    § 330(a)(3) suggests it should be given that exhaustive reading. The factors listed have a
    unifying theme: they are some, but not all, of the lodestar factors.         See 3 Collier, 
    supra,
    § 330.03(9) (“A majority of the Johnson criteria are now codified in section 330(a)(3).”). Before
    the 1994 Amendment, bankruptcy courts used these factors to determine whether the fees were
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    reasonable. Id.; see also In re Boddy, 
    950 F.2d at 337
    . Congress knew this, and it still instructed
    the courts to consider “all relevant factors.” See Goodyear Atomic Corp. v. Miller, 
    486 U.S. 174
    ,
    184–85 (1988) (“We generally presume that Congress is knowledgeable about existing law
    pertinent to the legislation it enacts.”).
    Finally, our conclusion is supported by § 330’s grant of discretion to the bankruptcy
    courts. Section 330(a)(1) makes the award of fees discretionary, not mandatory. 
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a)(1).    Courts “may award” a professional “reasonable compensation” for “actual,
    necessary services,” but the statute does not require them to award these fees.         See In re
    Robinson, 189 F. App’x 371, 373 (6th Cir. 2006) (“A bankruptcy court is afforded broad
    discretion in determining attorney’s fees.” (citing 
    11 U.S.C. § 330
    (a))). And reviewing courts
    have consistently acknowledged the bankruptcy court’s discretion in awarding fees. See, e.g., In
    re Boddy, 
    950 F.2d at 338
    ; accord In re Mkt. Ctr. E. Retail Prop., Inc., 730 F.3d at 1248–49
    (“[B]ankruptcy courts have wide discretion in awarding compensation to attorneys, trustees, and
    professionals so long as it is reasonable.” (quoting In re Com. Fin. Servs., 
    427 F.3d 804
    , 810
    (10th Cir. 2005))).      Given this discretion, we think reading the list of factors as merely
    illustrative better fits the structure of the text.
    So the text of § 330(a)(3) permits courts to consider factors not listed, including “results
    obtained.”
    2.
    In response, the law firm argues that the “results obtained” factor conflicts with one of the
    codified factors instructing courts to look at whether a service was “beneficial at the time at
    which the service was rendered.” In its view, by considering “results obtained,” courts are not
    following Congress’s directive.
    But this argument is not well taken. There is no inconsistency in having courts look at
    both factors. Courts, for example, can compensate for services that were reasonably beneficial at
    the time they were performed and benefitted the estate. Or they could compensate a professional
    even if the services did not benefit the estate. Cf. In re Veltri Metal Prods., Inc., 189 F. App’x
    385, 390 (6th Cir. 2006) (“The absence of a reasonable likelihood of a distribution to the
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    unsecured creditors may be relevant in determining an award of fees . . . but it is not the sole
    consideration . . . .”). So what work is the “beneficial at the time” language doing? It ensures
    that bankruptcy courts do not automatically bar fees for attorneys when they are not ultimately
    successful. See In re Woerner, 
    783 F.3d 266
    , 276 (5th Cir. 2015) (en banc) (“Whether the
    services were ultimately successful is relevant to, but not dispositive of, attorney
    compensation.”).
    Next, the law firm argues that “results obtained” should not be considered because it
    would be reverting to the “spirit of economy” policy that Congress rejected. That policy
    assumed that “attorneys assisting the trustee in the administration of a bankruptcy estate are
    acting not as private persons but as officers of the court,” so “they should not expect to be
    compensated as generously for their services” as private attorneys. In re First Colonial Corp. of
    Am., 
    544 F.2d 1291
    , 1299 (5th Cir. 1977). We have recognized that in enacting the Bankruptcy
    Code, Congress rejected that spirit-of-economy view. See In re Boddy, 
    950 F.2d at 337
    . The
    firm cites Boddy for the view that using “results obtained” would be the same as applying the
    spirit-of-economy policy. But in doing so the firm undermines its own argument. True, Boddy
    rejected the “practice of the courts under the pre-Code Bankruptcy Act, when economy of the
    debtor’s estate was a paramount concern.” 
    950 F.2d at 337
    . But at the same time, Boddy
    adopted the “results obtained” factor. 
    Id. at 338
    . If the Boddy court had thought that “results
    obtained” is an extension of the “spirit of economy,” it would not have adopted one while
    rejecting the other.
    In any event, considering “results obtained” does not revert the system back to the “spirit
    of economy” framework, nor does it discourage attorneys from specializing in bankruptcy.
    Why?     Because Congress’s remedy for “spirit of economy” was not to award bankruptcy
    attorneys all their requested fees. Instead, it was to give bankruptcy attorneys “compensation in
    parity with that received by attorneys performing services in comparable situations.” 3 Collier,
    supra, § 330.03(3); see In re Woerner, 783 F.3d at 274–75 (explaining that Congress provided
    compensation “commensurate with the fees awarded for comparable services in non-bankruptcy
    cases” (quoting In re UNR Indus., Inc., 
    986 F.2d 207
    , 208–09 (7th Cir. 1993))).
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    What’s more, “results obtained” is one of the factors courts consider in non-bankruptcy
    cases.    See, e.g., Hensley v. Eckerhart, 
    461 U.S. 424
    , 436 (1983) (explaining that “had
    respondents prevailed on only one of their six general claims . . . a fee award based on the
    claimed hours clearly would have been excessive”). The lodestar factors, after all, came from a
    non-bankruptcy case. See Johnson, 
    488 F.2d at 715
    . We recognize some significant differences
    between the mechanics of fees in the fee-shifting context from those in the bankruptcy context.
    Under fee-shifting statutes, fees are shifted from the prevailing plaintiff to the losing defendant
    and are paid in addition to the award recovered. By contrast, in the bankruptcy context, no
    additional funds are created by the fee application process and the bankruptcy estate is
    diminished by any award. For that reason, fee-shifting caselaw does not automatically extend to
    the bankruptcy context. See In re Piligrim’s Pride Corp., 
    690 F.3d 650
    , 664–65, n. 18 (5th Cir.
    2012). But these mechanical differences do not undermine our conclusion here that “results
    obtained” is an important consideration in both contexts, so we continue to consider the import
    from fee-shifting statutes in this limited circumstance.
    Finally, the firm argues that this Court, as well as others, has held that “results obtained”
    are no longer a lodestar factor. Not so. All the cases that reject “results obtained” do so for the
    initial determination under § 330(a)(4)—whether the fees are compensable. None of these cases
    hold that once a court finds that the fees are compensable, it is barred from considering “results
    obtained” in determining “the amount of reasonable compensation” under § 330(a)(3). In other
    words, courts cannot rely on § 330(a)(4) to bar recovery if the services are not beneficial to the
    estate, but that does not mean that they cannot account for that fact when determining whether to
    lower fees.
    The two unpublished decisions from this Court that the law firm cites support our reading
    of the statute. See In re Veltri Metal Prods., Inc., 189 F. App’x at 390 (holding that “results
    obtained” cannot be considered for purposes of § 330(a)(4), but “may be relevant in determining
    an award of fees” under § 330(a)(3)); In re Red Ball, Inc., 157 F. App’x 850, 852 (6th Cir. 2005)
    (holding that, for purposes of § 330(a)(4), it is “not fair to judge the necessity of the[] services
    with the benefit of hindsight”).
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    So too with the out-of-circuit cases the firm relies on—none of them say that bankruptcy
    courts cannot consider “results obtained” as a factor under § 330(a)(3). See In re Woerner,
    783 F.3d at 276 (“Whether the services were ultimately successful is relevant to, but not
    dispositive of, attorney compensation.”); In re Mkt. Ctr. E. Retail Prop., Inc., 730 F.3d at 1246–
    47 (“Subsequent to the adoption of § 330, this circuit has continued to consider the Johnson
    factors,” including “the amount involved and the results obtained”); In re Smith, 
    317 F.3d 918
    ,
    926 & n.3 (9th Cir. 2002) (holding that § 330(a)(4)(A) does not require the services to actually
    provide an “identifiable, tangible, and material benefit” but noting that it was “not address[ing]”
    § 330(a)(3) (quoting In re Xebec, 
    147 B.R. 518
    , 523 (B.A.P. 9th Cir. 1992))); In re Top Grade
    Sausage, Inc., 
    227 F.3d 123
    , 130 (3d Cir. 2000) (same); In re Ames Dep’t Stores, Inc., 
    76 F.3d 66
    , 72 (2d Cir. 1996) (holding that, if services are “reasonably likely to benefit the debtor’s
    estate, they should be compensable” (internal quotation marks omitted)), abrogated on other
    grounds by Lamie v. U.S. Tr., 
    540 U.S. 526
     (2004).
    In short, none of the cases that the law firm relies on supports its view. To the extent that
    they reject the “results obtained” analysis, they do so for § 330(a)(4), which deals with
    compensability. And to the extent that these cases discuss § 330(a)(3), they recognize that
    “results obtained” remains a relevant factor. So the law firm has failed to show that the
    bankruptcy court could not consider “results obtained” under § 330(a)(3).
    B.
    But even if the bankruptcy court can consider “results obtained,” we still must determine
    whether it erred in reducing the law firm’s fees by half.4 We hold that it did not.
    The bankruptcy court’s reduction in fees was based on the law firm’s minimal “results
    obtained.” Recall that the law firm recovered $38,000 (of the $1.6 million potential claim) for
    the estate. Still, the firm sought a little over $37,000 in fees. This, the bankruptcy court found,
    would have left essentially nothing for the creditors. And so, the court concluded that the fees
    4
    The law firm’s argument is couched in terms of the “billing judgment” rule—its second claim that we did
    not address. But we read the firm’s argument as a more general challenge to the bankruptcy court’s reduction of
    fees by half because of the results obtained. So although we consider the firm’s challenge to the bankruptcy court’s
    reduction of fees, we do not consider arguments related to the “billing judgment” claim.
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    requested were “unreasonably high.” In re Vill. Apothecary, Inc., 
    626 B.R. 893
    , 912 (Bankr.
    E.D. Mich. 2021).
    Although we have not previously decided whether a 50% reduction in fees under
    § 330(a)(3) based on “results obtained” can be an abuse of discretion, the Ninth Circuit has. See
    In re Strand, 
    375 F.3d 854
    , 861 (9th Cir. 2004). In Strand, the attorney pursued litigation that
    would have resulted in about $28,000 for the estate. 
    Id. at 860
    . He asked for roughly $19,000 in
    fees, which would have left only $9,000 in the estate. 
    Id.
     The Ninth Circuit explained that “[i]t
    is readily apparent that if the legal fees exceed the recovery, the estate is not benefitted.” 
    Id. at 861
    . And so it held that the bankruptcy court’s reduction in fees by 50% was not an abuse of
    discretion. 
    Id.
    We recognize that the circumstances of each individual case will differ, still our
    assessment of the court’s decision here is similar to the Ninth Circuit’s. To be sure, the law firm
    here pursued a potential benefit that was more substantial than the attorney in Strand, but the
    “results obtained” were nonetheless minimal. The law firm’s efforts to recover $1.6 million
    dollars resulted in only $38,000. What’s more, had the bankruptcy court awarded the law firm
    all its fees, it would have left virtually nothing for the estate. So the court did not abuse its
    discretion in reducing the fees by half.
    And reducing the fees by half based on the value of the work to the estate is consistent
    with what other courts have done.5 For example, in Allied Computers, the bankruptcy court held
    that the attorney’s fees should be limited to “no more than 50% of the amount recovered through
    the adversary proceeding” by the applicant. In re Allied Computer Repair, Inc., 
    202 B.R. 877
    ,
    888 (Bankr. W.D. Ky. 1996); see also 
    id. at 885
     (collecting cases on reduction of fee awards,
    including by one-half). And there the court awarded only $7,500 in legal fees for an attorney
    who recovered $15,000 for the client. 
    Id.
     at 888–99. The court also reasoned that normally,
    outside the bankruptcy area, practitioners pursing claims on behalf of their clients handle similar
    cases on a one-third contingency basis. 
    Id. at 888
    . Further, courts have reduced fees, even when
    the fees were reasonable and necessary, where there would not be “sufficient resources to pay
    5
    We have affirmed a larger fee reduction than the one at issue (although the percentage of the total fees was
    less). See In re Red Ball, Inc., 157 F. App’x at 852–53 (affirming an $80,000 reduction in legal fees).
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    administrative expenses.” In re McKenzie, 
    494 B.R. 329
    , 336 (Bankr. E.D. Tenn. 2013). And
    the law firm has cited no authority to the contrary.
    In the face of the broad discretion afforded to bankruptcy courts, we cannot say that the
    bankruptcy court abused its discretion here.
    The law firm makes two responses, both unavailing. First, the firm claims that the
    bankruptcy court did not afford it notice to disprove its determination that fees should be reduced
    by 50%. But the “burden of proof as to entitlement to and reasonableness of a fee request is
    upon the moving party.” In re McLean Wine Co., 
    463 B.R. at 846
     (internal quotation marks
    omitted). The bankruptcy court held a hearing on fees, and it was up to the law firm to prove
    why it was entitled to those fees. The firm did not meet that burden. Instead, the law firm seems
    to think that it only needed to show that the hourly rate and hours worked were reasonable. But
    reasonable hours and rates are a necessary but not sufficient condition to recover under § 330(a).
    If the hours and rates are reasonable, then the fees are compensable under § 330(a)(4), but the
    bankruptcy court may still (in its discretion) reduce those fees under § 330(a)(3). See In re
    Boddy, 
    950 F.2d at
    338–39.
    Second, the law firm argues that the bankruptcy court’s decision is based on the spirit-of-
    economy policy that Congress rejected. True, Congress has rejected the spirit-of-economy
    policy, but the bankruptcy court’s reduction in fees here was not based on that policy. Recall
    that Congress’s solution to this policy was to put bankruptcy professionals on equal footing with
    comparable non-bankruptcy professionals. And in non-bankruptcy contexts, we have found that
    the court may consider “results obtained” in determining a proper fee award. See, e.g., Rui He v.
    Rom, 751 F. App’x 664, 674 (6th Cir. 2018) (holding that a reduction in fees by 25% where the
    attorney was “largely, but not entirely, successful” was not an abuse of discretion); Dean v. F.P.
    Allega Concrete Constr. Corp., 622 F. App’x 557, 560 (6th Cir. 2015) (citing Hensley, 
    461 U.S. at 436
    ) (reversing the grant of attorney’s fees because they were not proportionate to the “results
    obtained”).
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    In sum, the bankruptcy court did not abuse its discretion by reducing the law firm’s fees
    here by 50% based on the minimal results it obtained.
    IV.
    Because § 330(a)(3) permits courts to consider “results obtained,” the court below did not
    abuse its discretion in doing so. Nor did it abuse its discretion by reducing the law firm’s fees by
    50% after applying the relevant factors. For these reasons, we AFFIRM.