United States v. Wayne Scott ( 2018 )


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  •                               In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    No. 17-2784
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    v.
    WAYNE SCOTT,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division.
    No. 09 CR 548 — Harry D. Leinenweber, Judge.
    ARGUED APRIL 4, 2018 — DECIDED AUGUST 21, 2018
    Before WOOD, Chief Judge, and BAUER and SYKES, Circuit
    Judges.
    BAUER, Circuit Judge. In 2010, Wayne Scott was sentenced
    to 63 months of imprisonment and 36 months of supervised
    release after entering into a written plea agreement for engag-
    ing in two schemes to defraud investors and potential inves-
    tors. After his release, Scott violated his supervised release
    conditions several times. At the revocation hearing for one of
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    these violations, the district court found Scott violated one of
    his probation conditions and sentenced him to an additional
    36 months of supervised release. Scott argues on appeal that
    the district court committed procedural errors at the revocation
    hearing in failing to calculate or discuss the advisory Sentenc-
    ing Guidelines range and in failing to afford him an opportu-
    nity to allocute.
    I. BACKGROUND
    In 2009, Scott was charged with and pleaded guilty to
    engaging in two schemes to defraud investors and potential
    investors, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1341. One of the super-
    vised release conditions the district court imposed at sentenc-
    ing was that he could not incur new credit charges or open
    additional lines of credit without the approval of the probation
    officer. On January 17, 2017, the government filed a motion
    alleging that Scott had violated this condition.
    On July 6, 2017, the district court held a revocation hearing
    and determined that Scott violated this probation condition.
    When asked for its sentencing recommendation, the govern-
    ment referenced a special report on a prior violation during the
    same probation period that recommended five months in
    custody and a new term of 36 months’ supervised release. The
    district court declined to impose further custody due to Scott’s
    regular restitution payments. The government then requested
    that the court extend the term of supervised release. Defense
    counsel answered, “we have no objection to extending the
    period of mandatory supervised release.” Thus, the district
    court agreed to the 36 months of supervised release.
    At the end of the hearing, the district court reiterated to
    Scott that he needed to continue making his restitution
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    payments in order to avoid future appearances in court. Scott
    replied, “Your Honor, I just want to add for the record,” and
    defense counsel interjected stating, “No, you’re going to talk to
    me first.” Scott agreed, and the two conferred. Defense counsel
    then returned and said, “Pardon me, Judge. Thank you for the
    opportunity to talk. I don’t believe he has anything else he
    wants to tell the Court.” The district court accepted this
    statement and the hearing ended.
    Before the next status hearing on July 19, 2017, Scott
    retained new counsel. At this hearing, the district court
    addressed the issue that the extension of Scott’s supervised
    release for three years required the imposition of a period of
    custody. The district court proposed a sentence of one day of
    custody, considered time served, followed by three years of
    supervised release. The district court asked if there were any
    objections. Defense counsel did not explicitly object, and stated,
    “I’m not looking to reopen Mr. Scott’s sentencing hearing.”
    Defense counsel then advocated for a shorter supervised
    release period, but made no inquiry or argument concerning
    the applicable advisory Sentencing Guidelines calculation or
    Scott’s lack of allocution at the original revocation hearing.
    On August 1, 2017, Scott filed a motion to reconsider,
    challenging the district court’s finding of a violation of super-
    vised release and reiterating the sentencing arguments made
    on July 19. Additionally, he asserted for the first time that he
    did not agree with his prior counsel’s decision not to object to
    the new sentence of supervised release, that there was no
    mention of a specific Sentencing Guidelines calculation at his
    revocation hearing, that the potential penalties were not made
    clear to him, and that he was unable to present mitigation at
    the revocation hearing.
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    The district court entered judgment on August 16, 2017. On
    August 27, Scott filed an amended motion for reconsideration
    and noticed this motion for hearing two days later. On that
    same day, the district court denied the motion for reconsidera-
    tion. Scott timely appealed.
    II. ANALYSIS
    On appeal, Scott argues the district court erred in failing to
    calculate and consider the Sentencing Guidelines range for his
    violation of the conditions of supervised release and that the
    district court failed to comply with Federal Rule of Criminal
    Procedure 32.1(c)(1), which affords defendants the right to
    allocute. We find that Scott waived both issues.
    “Waiver occurs when a criminal defendant intentionally
    relinquishes a known right.” United States v. Brodie, 
    507 F.3d 527
    , 530 (7th Cir. 2007); United States v. Haddad, 
    462 F.3d 783
    ,
    793 (7th Cir. 2006). Waiver effectively “extinguishes any error
    and precludes appellate review.” United States v. Armour, 
    804 F.3d 859
    , 865 (7th Cir. 2015) (quoting 
    Brodie, 507 F.3d at 530
    ).
    Conversely, “[f]orfeiture occurs when a defendant negligently
    fails to assert a right in a timely fashion,” which triggers plain
    error review. 
    Brodie, 507 F.3d at 530
    .
    “The touchstone of waiver is a knowing and intentional
    decision.” United States v. Jaimes-Jaimes, 
    406 F.3d 845
    , 848 (7th
    Cir. 2005). A defendant’s decision to present one argument and
    not another is a matter of strategy, and the arguments he
    decides not to present are waived. 
    Id. Similarly, “[a]
    defendant
    who does not object to his sentence when asked whether he has
    any objections may communicate an intention to relinquish
    any arguments related to his” sentencing conditions. 
    Brodie, 507 F.3d at 531
    .
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    As a preliminary matter, it is important to note that
    revocation hearings are more summary proceedings subject to
    lesser standards than sentencing hearings. United States v. Lee,
    
    795 F.3d 682
    , 685 (7th Cir. 2015) (“[T]he full panoply of rights
    that the Constitution guarantees to criminal defendants does
    not extend to them” in revocation hearings) (citations and
    quotation marks omitted).
    At the revocation hearing on July 6, 2017, the district court
    discussed with the parties a sentence for Scott’s violation. After
    the district court rejected additional incarceration, the govern-
    ment recommended 36 months of supervised release. Defense
    counsel responded saying, “we have no objection to extending
    the period of mandatory supervised release.”
    At the end of this hearing, the district court allowed Scott
    to speak for the record. However, his attorney cut him off and
    requested a moment to speak with Scott privately. After
    speaking privately, counsel confirmed with the court that Scott
    had nothing further to say, effectively relinquishing his right
    to allocute. It is not the court’s job to interfere with an attorney-
    client relationship. Rather, the district court must be able to
    rely on the representations given by counsel. Furthermore,
    Scott previously had a sentencing hearing where the district
    court afforded him the opportunity to allocute. This allows us
    to conclude that he was familiar with his right to allocute.
    Scott had a new attorney at the resentencing hearing on
    July 19, 2017. At this hearing, defense counsel specifically
    stated, “I’m not looking to reopen Mr. Scott’s sentencing
    hearing.” As defense counsel conceded at oral argument, he
    declined review of the 36 months of supervised release as well
    as the asserted failure to allow allocution. Instead, he focused
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    this time before the court on advocating for a shorter probation
    period. This would have been the appropriate time for counsel
    to assert any objections to either of these issues. However, by
    failing to raise these objections, he affirmatively waived the
    right to challenge either of these issues. See United States v.
    Gabriel, 
    831 F.3d 811
    , 814 (7th Cir. 2016). Therefore, our review
    is precluded.
    III. CONCLUSION
    For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM the district court’s
    findings.
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    WOOD, Chief Judge, dissenting. This case began as a routine
    proceeding to revoke defendant Wayne Scott’s supervised re-
    lease because he bought a car without permission. But the
    process went off the rails during his revocation hearing. The
    district court never calculated a guidelines term for the un-
    derlying violation. To add procedural insult to injury, his law-
    yer gratuitously told the court that “we” have no objection to
    extending the term of his supervision, Scott tried to speak up
    and was silenced by the lawyer, and then the lawyer—not
    Scott—told the court that Scott had nothing to say, and the
    court made no further inquiries. With new counsel, Scott tried
    to undo the harm that had been done, but the district court
    decided that he was too late. On appeal, Scott again seeks a
    fresh revocation proceeding at which his right to allocute is
    respected and at which he can raise issues about the guide-
    lines calculations for revocation. My colleagues have con-
    cluded that Scott waived these issues. I cannot agree. I can
    find no place in this record where Scott intentionally relin-
    quished his right to either procedural guarantee, and so I
    would remand Scott’s case to the district court for a fresh con-
    sideration of his sentence on revocation.
    I
    Some additional detail is useful in order to understand
    how Scott wound up where he is. Upon his conviction on
    charges of conducting two investment-fraud schemes, Scott
    was sentenced to 63 months’ imprisonment and 36 months of
    supervised release. He completed his time in prison and on
    January 30, 2014, he began his term of supervised release. A
    year and a half later, the Probation Office filed a written re-
    quest asking the district court to hold a revocation hearing. It
    listed five conditions that Scott allegedly had violated: state
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    charges of domestic battery; failure to notify Probation about
    the state arrest; failure to make some restitution payments;
    failure to notify Probation about a change of address; and fail-
    ure to notify Probation that he was questioned by police. It
    also calculated the advisory revocation sentences for each vi-
    olation, using Chapter 7 of the guidelines. In July 2015, Pro-
    bation filed a supplemental report, charging two new viola-
    tions (a conviction for misdemeanor domestic violence and an
    arrest for assault). In the end, however, the district court never
    considered these charges.
    Another year and a half later, on January 17, 2017, the gov-
    ernment filed another document, which it called a “Supple-
    mental Motion,” again asking to revoke Scott’s supervised re-
    lease. This time, it relied on an entirely new violation: that
    Scott had violated the condition that forbade him from incur-
    ring new credit charges or opening additional lines of credit
    without Probation’s permission. It based this accusation on
    Scott’s alleged 2014 purchase of a 2009 Jaguar through a nom-
    inee. Neither the Supplemental Motion nor anything else ever
    provided any guidelines calculation for the credit violation.
    After hearing testimony concerning the alleged car pur-
    chase, the district court determined that Scott violated the
    terms of his supervised release by taking out the loan. It held
    a revocation hearing on July 6, 2017. (By that time, Scott’s term
    of supervised release would otherwise have elapsed.) During
    that hearing, the court asked the prosecutor for her recom-
    mended sentence. She responded as follows:
    Your Honor, this case originally began with [sic] su-
    pervised release request … in connection with the de-
    fendant’s arrest and then re-arrest in connection with a
    domestic battery situation. And the request at that time
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    was that his supervised release be revoked, he be sen-
    tenced to a term of custody of five months, and then a
    new term of supervised release of 36 months should be
    imposed.
    That would be the government’s continuing recom-
    mendation. This is a separate violation from the one
    originally reported, but I think the Court has a sense
    from what has been described that—well, with respect
    to the violation, the defendant violated the term of su-
    pervised release.
    The court then asked a series of questions about Scott such as
    whether he was single, whether he had a son, and how old his
    son was. Although they were directed to his attorney, Scott
    himself offered brief responses to these questions. The court
    never asked Scott if he wished to provide additional infor-
    mation that he thought pertinent to his sentence.
    At that point, the district court indicated that it was
    amenable to extending Scott’s term of supervised release. Its
    comment set off an exchange with the prosecutor,
    Karina Salovaara; the probation officer; and Scott’s attorney,
    Raymond Wigell, which proceeded as follows:
    Ms. Salovaara: … [W]e would ask at the very least that
    the period of supervised release be extended.
    The Court: I think, yes, you should do that because I
    want him to continue making restitution payments.
    Mr. Wigell: And we have no objection to extending the
    period of mandatory supervised release, Judge.
    The Court: When does it end?
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    Ms. Salovaara: Well, again, technically it ended ear-
    lier—
    The Probation Officer: It actually ended in January, your
    Honor.
    The Court: All right. So then we’ll extend it now, what
    would you suggest; a year?
    The Probation Officer: The initial probation officer re-
    quested that his supervised release be extended 36
    months.
    Ms. Salovaara: Three years.
    The Probation Officer: Three years.
    Ms. Salovaara: And that the five months of custody—
    The Court: 36 months?
    Ms. Salovaara: Yes
    The Court: All right. Let’s make it 36 months then. …
    As the transcript shows, Wigell never agreed on Scott’s behalf
    to a supervised release term of 36 months; in fact, he did not
    condone any particular period. He merely stated that, as a
    general matter, he did not object to extending Scott’s super-
    vised release. The government recommended a 36-month
    term only after Scott’s counsel had agreed to some extension.
    That was not the end of the July 6 proceedings, however.
    A few minutes later, Scott interjected “Your Honor, I just want
    to add for the record—… .” But before he could finish talking,
    Wigell interrupted him and said, “No, you’re going to talk to
    me first.” They conferred, after which Wigell said, “Pardon
    me, Judge. Thank you for the opportunity to talk. I don’t be-
    lieve [Scott] has anything else he wants to tell the Court.” The
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    judge did not confirm this with Scott. Instead, he said only
    “All right. That’s fine.”
    Before judgment was entered, the court scheduled one
    more status hearing. Before it took place, Scott obtained new
    counsel. The second hearing took place on July 19, 2017, with
    new counsel. There was some discussion about the need for
    at least a minimal period of incarceration and restitution. Im-
    portantly for present purposes, Scott’s new lawyer told the
    court that while he was “not looking to reopen Mr. Scott’s sen-
    tencing hearing,” he was asking for a shorter term of super-
    vised release for Scott. The court rejected that request. Once
    again, Scott did not have the opportunity to speak.
    Scott tried one more time in the district court to make his
    own arguments: before judgment was entered, he filed a mo-
    tion to reconsider on August 1, 2017, in which he raised the
    arguments he is trying to press here. He asserted that he did
    not agree with Wigell’s decision not to object to the new term
    of supervised release, and he complained that the court had
    failed to consult the advisory guidelines before deciding on
    the revocation sentence. The court did not respond to this mo-
    tion; it entered judgment on August 16, giving Scott one day’s
    incarceration and 36 months of supervised release. After an-
    other motion to reconsider, which the court denied on August
    29, this appeal followed.
    II
    My colleagues find waiver in the course of events I have
    recounted here, but with respect, I cannot agree with them.
    As the majority acknowledges, waiver occurs only as the re-
    sult of an “intentional relinquishment or abandonment of a
    known right.” United States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 733 (1993)
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    (quoting Johnson v. Zerbst, 
    304 U.S. 458
    , 464 (1938)). “[W]aiver
    requires a calculated choice to stay silent on a particular mat-
    ter.” United States v. Anderson, 
    604 F.3d 997
    , 1001 (7th Cir.
    2010). In contrast, forfeiture occurs if “a defendant merely
    ‘fails to raise an argument due to accident or neglect.’” United
    States v. Oliver, 
    873 F.3d 601
    , 607 (7th Cir. 2017) (quoting
    United States v. Seals, 
    813 F.3d 1038
    , 1045 (7th Cir. 2016)). In
    demarcating the line between the two, we construe the
    boundary in favor of the defendant. United States v. Barnes,
    
    883 F.3d 955
    , 957 (7th Cir. 2018). “Where the government can-
    not proffer any strategic justification for a [defendant’s] deci-
    sion, we can assume forfeiture.” 
    Oliver, 873 F.3d at 607
    (quot-
    ing 
    Anderson, 604 F.3d at 1001
    –02 (alteration in original)).
    The majority finds waiver at four separate points in the
    proceedings: (1) when Wigell announced on July 6 that he did
    not object to extending Scott’s supervised release; (2) when
    Scott tried to speak up and was silenced by his attorney;
    (3) when new counsel said on July 19 that he was not trying
    to reopen the “sentencing hearing”; and (4) when Scott was
    silent about his objections at the July 19 hearing. The first
    three of these instances do not support a finding of either
    waiver or forfeiture; the fourth comes closer to forfeiture but
    fails because Scott raised his objections in the motion to recon-
    sider, which was filed before judgment was entered, while the
    district court was still fully empowered to act.
    Wigell’s comment that he was not objecting in general to
    an extension of supervised release said nothing at all about
    the term of that release. It could have been one extra month;
    it could have been 36 extra months. Wigell cannot have
    waived the right on Scott’s behalf to object to a length un-
    known to him at the time. True, Scott is now objecting to the
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    statement as a whole, but that does not mean that he is fore-
    closed from arguing that the extension was much too long.
    Scott did nothing to waive his right to allocute either. Fed-
    eral Rule of Criminal Procedure 32.1(c)(1) specifically confers
    such a right on a defendant who is facing the modification of
    the term of his supervised release. It states that “[b]efore mod-
    ifying the conditions of probation or supervised release, the
    court must hold a hearing, at which the person has the right to
    counsel and an opportunity to make a statement and present any
    information in mitigation.” (Emphasis added.) As the ex-
    change reproduced above demonstrates, Scott may have been
    attempting to exercise this right, but his lawyer prevented
    him from speaking and the court never gave him another op-
    portunity.
    We have interpreted Rule 32.1 as imposing obligations on
    a district court conducting a hearing on the revocation of su-
    pervised release that are comparable to those imposed by
    Rule 32 at the time of initial sentencing. United States v. Pitre,
    
    504 F.3d 657
    , 662 (7th Cir. 2007). Among these obligations is a
    requirement that the district court advise the defendant per-
    sonally of his right to address the court before it imposes a sen-
    tence of supervised release. Id.; United States v. Noel, 
    581 F.3d 490
    , 502 (7th Cir. 2009) (applying Rule 32); United States v.
    O’Hallaren, 
    505 F.3d 633
    , 635–36 (7th Cir. 2007). The invitation
    to speak must be meaningful, and “compliance by a judge in
    form only” is insufficient. United States v. Clemmons, 
    48 F.3d 1020
    , 1025 (7th Cir. 1995) (addressing Rule 32), overruled on
    other grounds by United States v. Allender, 
    62 F.3d 909
    , 917
    (1995); see also 
    O’Hallaren, 505 F.3d at 635
    –36 (asking, “Any-
    body else?” inadequate on revocation of supervised release);
    
    Pitre, 504 F.3d at 662
    (same for two closed-ended questions).
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    The duty to afford an opportunity to allocute rests on the
    judge, not on the defendant. The fact that Scott did not over-
    ride his attorney on July 6 can therefore not be held against
    him. And in fact, he asked to be heard personally through the
    motion that he filed on August 1, just a few weeks after the
    revocation hearing and before the court entered judgment.
    His case is therefore not a good candidate for a finding of for-
    feiture, much less waiver.
    Turning to the third source of waiver on which the major-
    ity relies—the comments of Scott’s new lawyer on July 19 to
    the effect that he (the lawyer) was not seeking to reopen the
    sentencing—that too in context is far from waiver. The lawyer
    immediately presented arguments for a shorter term of super-
    vised release, stressing Scott’s disappointment with the three-
    year term and his desire to regain “the freedom to live his life
    again without being encumbered.” The only way to make any
    sense of this is as a statement from the second lawyer
    (whether or not authorized by Scott) to the effect that the only
    question that remained was how long the new term of super-
    vision would be.
    The final argument for waiver appears to arise out of the
    July 19 hearing. That, the majority suggests, “would have
    been the appropriate time for counsel to assert any objec-
    tions,” and, “by failing to raise these objections, [Scott] affirm-
    atively waived the right to challenge” them. Ante at 6 (citing
    United States v. Gabriel, 
    831 F.3d 811
    , 814 (7th Cir. 2016)). But
    this is the language of forfeiture. A total failure to raise a
    point, when there could have been no strategic reason for
    Scott (or his lawyer) to drop it, is a forfeiture. So viewed, we
    would analyze Scott’s claims under the plain-error standard;
    we would not refuse to reach them.
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    III
    If these errors could not have affected the outcome, then
    perhaps the majority’s decision should stand. But, as I briefly
    explain, they did. Although Scott may in reality have pre-
    served some or all of his points for ordinary review, I will as-
    sume for the sake of argument that plain error applies here.
    United States v. Lee, 
    795 F.3d 682
    , 685 (7th Cir. 2015) (applying
    plain error review to forfeited claims arising from a revoca-
    tion hearing). To prevail, Scott needed to show that (a) the
    district court erred, (b) that error was “clear or obvious,”
    (c) the error “affected [his] substantial rights,” and (d) the “er-
    ror ‘seriously affect[s] the fairness, integrity or public reputa-
    tion of judicial proceedings.’” Puckett v. United States, 
    556 U.S. 129
    , 135 (2009) (quoting 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 736
    ) (alteration in
    original).
    A
    I address first Scott’s complaint that the district court
    failed properly to consult the guidelines when it settled on the
    post-revocation sentence. The district court must begin the
    process of revoking supervised release by calculating and
    considering the recommended guidelines range under the
    Chapter 7 Policy Statements. United States v. Downs, 
    784 F.3d 1180
    , 1181 (7th Cir. 2015); United States v. Snyder, 
    635 F.3d 956
    ,
    959 (7th Cir. 2011). At initial sentencing, a court sometimes
    may “expressly reference[] the PSR” and “adopt[] the PSR’s
    Guidelines calculations,” rather than engage in the analysis
    anew. 
    Oliver, 873 F.3d at 610
    . There is no reason to take a more
    rigid approach for revocation proceedings, and so we can as-
    sume that the same rule applies to them. In any case, there
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    must be some indication that the district court actually con-
    sidered the appropriate guidelines range. Id.; United States v.
    Gibbs, 
    578 F.3d 694
    , 695 (7th Cir. 2009).
    Here, the court did not follow that rule. It never calculated
    a guidelines term nor, despite the government’s assertions,
    did it adopt any calculation from the Probation Office. The
    reason is simple: no such calculation existed. This revocation
    was about the car. The reports from 2015, which analyzed en-
    tirely unrelated violations of supervised release, contained
    limited guidelines calculations, but those violations were not
    acted upon. In 2017, a new violation—the car purchase—led
    to the revocation of supervised release. The Probation Office
    did not prepare a report for that violation, nor did the govern-
    ment’s “Supplemental Motion” make any recommendation
    based on the guidelines.
    At the sentencing hearing, the only references to the 2015
    report were made by the government and the probation of-
    ficer—not the district court or Scott. Even then, the govern-
    ment never mentioned the range calculated in the 2015 re-
    ports, nor did it opine (much less justify the position) that the
    previously calculated range would apply to Scott’s 2017 vio-
    lation. The government merely alluded to its earlier request,
    despite acknowledging that it was for a “separate violation.”
    It never clearly linked its new revocation request to a guide-
    line calculation for the underlying violation. The probation of-
    ficer also noted that his predecessor had requested three years
    of supervised release, again without any mention of the
    guidelines.
    That error requires reversal. The guidelines play a central
    role in sentencing and exert a powerful anchoring effect;
    therefore, we must presume that failure to calculate Scott’s
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    guidelines affected his sentence. 
    Downs, 784 F.3d at 1181
    –82;
    see also Molina-Martinez v. United States, 
    136 S. Ct. 1338
    , 1345
    (2016). Because the district court is itself responsible for
    guidelines calculations and its errors are easily corrected on
    remand, the Supreme Court recently noted that a guidelines
    miscalculation creates a “risk of unnecessary deprivation of
    liberty [that] particularly undermines the fairness, integrity,
    or public reputation of judicial proceedings.” Rosales-Mireles
    v. United States, 
    138 S. Ct. 1897
    , 1908 (2018). Thus, except in
    the extraordinary case, miscalculation requires reversal under
    plain error review. 
    Id. at 1911.
    The lack of any reference point
    gave an ad hoc tone to Scott’s proceedings. The district judge
    initially seemed inclined to impose one year of supervised re-
    lease. But after the probation officer responded that his pre-
    decessor had requested 36 months (without specifying that
    this had been for different violations), and the prosecutor
    agreed, the court responded, “All right. Let’s make it
    36 months then.” Sentencing should not be an off-the-cuff af-
    fair, and it was plain error to treat it that way.
    B
    Second, I take a brief look at the court’s failure to allow
    Scott to speak at his revocation hearing. FED. R. CRIM. P.
    32.1(b)(2)(E). We consistently have held that failure to offer
    the defendant a chance to speak violates Rule 32.1 and re-
    quires reversal. (As the government acknowledged, the only
    identifiable cases in which we appear to have ruled otherwise
    are United States v. DeBerry, 376 F. App’x 612, 614 (7th Cir.
    2010), and 
    Pitre, 504 F.3d at 663
    .) Strictly requiring the district
    court to issue a separate warning at the revocation hearing
    makes sense (and is required by the rule) because a defendant
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    might not otherwise know of his rights—especially at a revo-
    cation hearing where, as the majority points out, an offender
    has fewer rights.
    Contrary to the majority’s suggestion, nothing in the attor-
    ney-client relationship gets in the way of compliance with
    Rule 32.1. Ante at 5. To the contrary, the rule simply prescribes
    a particular kind of communication the judge must personally
    have with the defendant. Rule 32.1 safeguards a defendant’s
    “personal right.” Green v. United States, 
    365 U.S. 301
    , 305
    (1961) (plurality); United States v. Luepke, 
    495 F.3d 443
    , 449 (7th
    Cir. 2007); 
    Pitre, 504 F.3d at 661
    –62 (describing Rule as “grant-
    ing criminal defendants a personal right to allocution and as
    imposing on trial judges a duty personally to invite defend-
    ants to speak before sentencing”). It represents one of the few
    times in a proceeding when the defendant has a personal right
    to make a decision; to safeguard that right, the court must
    speak to the client directly. It allows the court to hear from the
    client, unfiltered by his attorney. 
    Green, 365 U.S. at 304
    (“The
    most persuasive counsel may not be able to speak for a de-
    fendant as the defendant might, with halting eloquence,
    speak for himself.”).
    It is not even clear that the exchange we are talking about
    is best read as bearing on the right to allocute. Scott stated, “I
    just want to add for the record.” His attorney interrupted and
    then said that Scott no longer wished to speak. All this oc-
    curred after the court had settled on the 36-month term of su-
    pervised release. None of us knows what Scott had planned
    to add. And the court, having already settled on its sentence,
    might not have taken anything he said into account. 
    Luepke, 495 F.3d at 448
    –49 (allocution is meant to occur before the dis-
    trict court settles on a sentence).
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    On the merits, it is once again plain that the district court
    erred. It never invited Scott to explain why he deserved more
    lenient treatment. Prior to settling on three years of super-
    vised release, the only meaningful inquiries directed to Scott
    consisted of a series of closed-ended questions regarding his
    family and employment situation. While the district court
    may have gleaned some relevant information from the ex-
    change, it never invited Scott to share information that Scott
    thought pertinent to the revocation of supervised release. A
    judge-controlled Q and A is not a meaningful invitation to
    share what the defendant thinks important as required by Rule
    32.1. 
    Pitre, 504 F.3d at 662
    .
    Scott’s aborted attempt to speak at the end of the July 6
    hearing did not save the day. The judge never invited him to
    offer a statement in mitigation. Maybe Scott was starting to
    offer one on his own initiative. Or perhaps he was planning
    to talk about something else; who knows? As I already have
    noted, the timing was wrong in any event, because by then
    the sentence had been set.
    The district court’s violation of Rule 32.1 requires reversal
    under the plain-error standard. Failure to invite allocution
    prior to revocation constitutes a clear violation of the require-
    ments imposed by Rule 32.1. 
    Id. at 661–62;
    see also United
    States v. Daniels, 
    760 F.3d 920
    , 925 (9th Cir. 2014). Such an error
    is prejudicial, for plain-error purposes. We “presume[s] prej-
    udice when there is any possibility that the defendant would
    have received a lesser sentence had the district court allowed
    him to speak before imposing a sentence,” and we “cannot
    speculate as to the persuasive ability of anything [the defend-
    ant] may have said in his statement.” 
    O’Hallaren, 505 F.3d at 636
    . Here, three additional years of supervised release was the
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    maximum extension allowed by law—perhaps even a day too
    long, given the judge’s decision to impose one day’s incarcer-
    ation and 36 months’ supervised release. See 18 U.S.C.
    § 3583(h) (combined term of imprisonment and supervised
    released imposed after revocation cannot exceed term of su-
    pervised release authorized for the underlying conviction);
    
    Id. § 3583(b)(2)
    (authorizing three years of supervised release
    for a class C felony); 
    Id. §§ 1341,
    3559(a)(3) (designating Scott’s
    underlying conviction a class C felony); 
    Id. § 3583(i)
    (requiring
    terms of supervised release to run concurrently).
    Finally, failure to afford a defendant his allocution rights
    casts the integrity and fairness of sentencing into disrepute
    and requires resentencing “[a]bsent some rare indication
    from the face of the record that the denial of this right did not
    implicate these core values.” 
    O’Hallaren, 505 F.3d at 636
    (quot-
    ing 
    Luepke, 495 F.3d at 452
    ); 
    Pitre, 504 F.3d at 663
    (error did not
    affect fairness because the failure to invite a statement in-
    volved mechanically enforcing the terms of a prior informed
    “bargain” with the district court); DeBerry, 376 F. App’x at 614
    (the court “technically” failed to address the defendant per-
    sonally but the defendant understood the invitation and took
    the opportunity to address the court). Despite his efforts, ulti-
    mately Scott had no opportunity to convince the judge to
    show compassion.
    My colleagues point out that offenders are not afforded
    the same rights at revocation hearings as in their initial crim-
    inal proceedings. Ante at 5 (citing 
    Lee, 795 F.3d at 685
    ). But
    “reduced rights are not the same as no rights at all,” 
    Lee, 795 F.3d at 685
    , and my argument rests exclusively on the rule
    governing revocation hearings, not initial sentences. Federal
    Rule of Criminal Procedure 32.1 largely codifies the rights the
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    Supreme Court deems necessary to a fair revocation proceed-
    ing. 
    Id. at 686
    (citing United States v. LeBlanc, 
    175 F.3d 511
    , 515
    (7th Cir. 1999)).
    IV
    The district court violated Scott’s rights at his revocation
    hearing. At worst, Scott forfeited the arguments he now
    wishes to present. If so, I would find that those errors were
    plain; if he is entitled to broader review, I would find legal
    error in the court’s failure to follow Rule 32.1. I would thus
    remand this case for resentencing, and I therefore respectfully
    dissent.