Robert Stinson v. Raymond Rawson , 868 F.3d 516 ( 2017 )


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  •                                 In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    ROBERT LEE STINSON,
    Plaintiff‐Appellee,
    v.
    JAMES GAUGER, LOWELL T. JOHNSON,
    and RAYMOND RAWSON,
    Defendants‐Appellants.
    ____________________
    Appeals from the United States District Court for the
    Eastern District of Wisconsin.
    No. 09 CV 1033 — Charles N. Clevert, Jr., Judge.
    ____________________
    ARGUED JUNE 6, 2014 — DECIDED AUGUST 25, 2015
    REARGUED EN BANC FEBRUARY 9, 2016
    DECIDED AUGUST 18, 2017
    ____________________
    Before  WOOD,  Chief  Judge,  and  BAUER,  POSNER,  FLAUM,
    EASTERBROOK,  MANION,  KANNE,  ROVNER,  WILLIAMS,  SYKES,
    and HAMILTON, Circuit Judges.
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    WILLIAMS, Circuit Judge. Robert Stinson spent twenty‐three
    years in jail for a murder he did not commit. No eyewitness
    testimony or fingerprints connected him to the murder. Two
    dentists testified as experts that Stinson’s dentition matched
    the teeth marks on the victim’s body, and a jury found Stinson
    guilty. After DNA evidence helped exonerate Stinson, he filed
    this civil suit against the lead detective and the two dentists
    alleging that they violated due process by fabricating the ex‐
    pert opinions and failing to disclose their agreement to fabri‐
    cate.  The  district  court  denied  the  defendants’  motions  for
    summary judgment seeking qualified immunity after finding
    that sufficient evidence  existed for Stinson  to prevail  on his
    claims at trial.
    We conclude that we lack jurisdiction to hear the defend‐
    ants’  appeals  of  the  denial  of  qualified  immunity  because
    those appeals fail to take the facts and reasonable inferences
    from  the  record  in  the  light  most  favorable  to  Stinson  and
    challenge the sufficiency of the evidence on questions of fact.
    As  a  consequence,  Johnson  v.  Jones,  515  U.S.  304  (1995)  pre‐
    cludes interlocutory review. We do have jurisdiction to con‐
    sider the district court’s denial of absolute immunity to John‐
    son  and  Rawson.  That  denial  was  correct  because  Stinson’s
    claims focus on their conduct while the murder was being in‐
    vestigated, not on their trial testimony or trial testimony prep‐
    aration.
    I. BACKGROUND
    As this is an appeal from a ruling on summary judgment,
    the chronology that follows takes the facts in the light most
    favorable  to  Stinson  as  the  non‐moving  party  at  summary
    judgment. See Anderson v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 477 U.S. 242, 255
    (1986). Ione Cychosz was murdered in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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    on  November  3,  1984.  Sixty  photographs  were  taken  of  her
    body at the county medical examiner’s office, including pic‐
    tures of bite marks to her body. An assistant deputy medical
    examiner authorized the use of Dr. Lowell Johnson as a foren‐
    sic odontology (the scientific study of teeth) consultant, and
    Johnson examined the bite marks on Cychosz’s body. He iden‐
    tified eight complete or partial bite marks and took rubber im‐
    pressions  of  the  bite  marks  on  Cychosz’s  right  breast.  Two
    days later he returned to the medical examiner’s office to ex‐
    tract tissue from her right breast.
    James Gauger and Tom Jackelen were assigned as the lead
    detectives to investigate Cychosz’s murder. Before heading to
    the crime scene, Gauger reviewed the case file that had been
    assembled in the two to three days after the murder. Accord‐
    ing to Stinson’s version of the events, and before Gauger and
    Jackelen’s first visit to the crime scene on November 6, 1984,
    the two detectives met with Johnson. At that meeting, John‐
    son  showed  the  detectives  photos  of  the  bite  marks  and  a
    drawing he had made of the assailant’s teeth. Johnson told the
    detectives the assailant was missing the tooth depicted in his
    sketch, a lateral incisor (a tooth one over from the upper front
    teeth). There is no police report memorializing any meeting
    between Johnson and either detective before November 15.
    On  November  6,  Gauger  and  Jackelen  went  to  the  area
    where Cychosz’s body was found to interview neighbors, and
    they  visited  the  nearby  home  where  Stinson  lived.  Jackelen
    questioned  Stinson  while  Gauger  interviewed  Stinson’s
    brother. Stinson is missing his right central incisor, or what is
    more commonly called the upper right front tooth. On Stin‐
    son,  this  tooth  is  fractured  and  decayed  almost  to  the  gum
    line.
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    After  they  finished  their  interviews,  the  two  detectives
    met at the front of the house, and Jackelen told Gauger, “We
    have him.” The detectives then went back to speak with Stin‐
    son and intentionally said something to make Stinson laugh
    so that his teeth would be visible. When Gauger saw that Stin‐
    son had a missing upper front tooth, he thought, according to
    his  later  memoir,  The  Memo  Book,  published  long  after  Stin‐
    son’s conviction, “There it was. The broken front tooth and the
    twisted tooth just like on the diagram and pictures.” (At his
    deposition in this case, however, Gauger said that the missing
    tooth was on the upper right side and to the right of the front
    tooth.)
    This was the not first time Gauger and Jackelen had ques‐
    tioned Stinson regarding a murder. Two years earlier, a man
    named  Ricky  Johnson  was  shot  and  killed  during  an  at‐
    tempted robbery, and Gauger and Jackelen were assigned to
    the case. Stinson told the detectives he had no information re‐
    garding  who  killed  Ricky  Johnson,  and  the  detectives  re‐
    sponded  that  they  were  “tired  of  all  that  bull****  story  you
    telling.” No charges were ever filed in the case, but Gauger
    wrote  in  The  Memo  Book  that  he  believed  Stinson  and  his
    friends murdered Ricky Johnson. Writing about the case in his
    memoir, Gauger said “[l]ots of people get away with murder”
    and maintained the case was still open “because we had the
    right guys, but couldn’t prove it.”
    After the interview of Stinson at his home, the detectives
    met  with  prosecutors  including  Assistant  District  Attorney
    Dan Blinka. Blinka thought there was not sufficient evidence
    at that point to obtain a search warrant to examine Stinson’s
    dentition.  Blinka  called  Johnson  during  the  meeting  and
    asked whether Johnson could make an identification from the
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    bite marks on the body, and Johnson replied that under the
    right conditions he could, if he had a full make‐up of the sus‐
    pect’s dentition.
    On  November  15,  1984,  Gauger  and  Jackelen  met  with
    Johnson. The November 15 police report states that Johnson
    said the offender would have a missing or broken right cen‐
    tral incisor (i.e., the upper right front tooth). That is the same
    tooth that the detectives had observed that Stinson was miss‐
    ing when they questioned him.
    The  next  day,  the  detectives  interviewed  and  photo‐
    graphed two other men with at least one missing or broken
    tooth. Johnson ruled them out as suspects in Cychosz’s mur‐
    der based only on looking at the photographs. Stinson’s odon‐
    tological expert in the current case, Dr. Michael Bowers, states
    there was no scientific basis for Johnson to exclude these two
    men by just looking at photographs.
    At some point, a police sketch artist made a second sketch
    of  the  assailant’s  dentition.  Johnson  says  he  told  the  artist  a
    tooth in the upper quadrant was missing but did not specify
    which  one.  The  police  artist  used  Johnson’s  initial  sketch  to
    make  the  police  sketch.  Consistent  with  Stinson’s  theory  of
    Johnson’s initial sketch, the police sketch reflects a missing or
    broken  upper  tooth  that  is  not  the  upper  right  front  tooth.
    Johnson says he did not use the police artist’s sketch at any
    point after it was created.
    On  December  3,  1984,  Stinson  appeared  in  a  Wisconsin
    state court “John Doe hearing” pursuant to subpoena as a per‐
    son who might have knowledge or information bearing on an
    investigation.  During  this  hearing,  Jackelen  testified  that  he
    observed  that  Stinson  had  missing  and  crooked  front  teeth
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    consistent  with  the  information  he  had  received  from  John‐
    son. Johnson inspected Stinson’s teeth  at the  hearing  for  fif‐
    teen  to  twenty  seconds.  Johnson  asked  for  his  sketch  of  the
    perpetrator’s  dentition,  but  Jackelen  said  he  did  not  have  a
    copy  with  him.  Johnson  then  testified  it  was  “remarkable”
    how similar Stinson’s teeth were to the sketch and said that
    Stinson’s  teeth  were  consistent  with  what  he  expected  from
    the  assailant  after  his  analysis  of  the  bite  marks.  The  judge
    then ordered Stinson to submit to a detailed dental examina‐
    tion, including the creation of wax molds of his teeth and pho‐
    tographs of his teeth, which he did.
    Later,  Johnson  compared  the  molds  and  photographs  of
    Stinson’s teeth and the wax exemplars of Stinson’s bite with
    the bite mark evidence from Cychosz’s body, and he opined
    that Stinson’s teeth were identical to those that caused the bite
    marks.  Johnson  conveyed  that  opinion  to  Gauger,  Jackelen,
    and  Blinka.  Blinka  met  with  Johnson  and  one  or  both  of
    Gauger and Jackelen to review the evidence, and Johnson said
    that Stinson’s dentition was consistent with that of the person
    who inflicted the bite marks on Cychosz.
    However,  that  did  not  satisfy  Blinka.  He  would  not  ap‐
    prove charges against Stinson without a second opinion from
    a  forensic  odontologist.  So  Johnson  contacted  Dr.  Raymond
    Rawson about the case, with Johnson telling Gauger that he
    “wanted the best forensic odontologist in the United States to
    confirm his findings.” Rawson had a private dental practice
    in Las Vegas, served as a forensic odontologist since 1976 and
    was a diplomat of the American Board of Forensic Odontol‐
    ogy.
    Johnson had also been a diplomat of the American Board
    of  Forensic  Odontology,  and  the  two  were  friends  and  had
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    known  each  other  for  at  least  seven  years.  On  January  17,
    1985, Gauger and Jackelen hand‐delivered evidence, includ‐
    ing Cychosz’s preserved skin tissue and the dental molds and
    models of Stinson that Johnson had generated, to Rawson in
    Las  Vegas.  Rawson  reviewed  the  evidence  for  one  to  three
    hours  in Gauger’s hotel room and  verbally confirmed John‐
    son’s findings, saying he was impressed with the amount of
    evidence. Gauger recalled that Rawson looked at the x‐rays
    and molds and said that was enough for him and that he con‐
    curred with Johnson.
    A few days later, on January 21, 1985, a criminal complaint
    was issued that charged Stinson with the first‐degree murder
    of  Cychosz.  Before  trial,  Johnson  authored  an  expert  report
    setting forth his opinions, including that “to a reasonable de‐
    gree of scientific certainty … the teeth of Robert Lee Stinson
    would be expected to produce bite patterns identical to those
    which  [Johnson]  examined  and  recorded  in  this  extensive
    analysis.”  Rawson  prepared  a  one‐page  expert  report  that
    summarized his opinions. After reviewing the materials John‐
    son generated, Rawson stated he agreed with Johnson’s con‐
    clusion that Stinson caused the bite mark injuries to Cychosz.
    Stinson’s trial took place in December 1985. The prosecu‐
    tion did not offer any evidence of motive, nor did it produce
    any eyewitness testimony that connected Stinson to Cychosz’s
    murder.  Some  testimony  suggested  that  Stinson  had  given
    conflicting  versions  of  his  whereabouts  on  the  night  of  Cy‐
    chosz’s death. Stinson’s counsel moved to exclude any foren‐
    sic odontology evidence from trial, but that request was de‐
    nied. Johnson testified at trial that the bite marks on Cychosz
    must have been made by teeth identical in relevant character‐
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    istics to those that Johnson examined on Stinson. Rawson tes‐
    tified  that  Johnson  performed  “a  very  good  work‐up”  and
    that he agreed with Johnson’s conclusion to a reasonable de‐
    gree of scientific certainty that Stinson caused the bite marks
    on Cychosz’s body.
    No  contrary  expert  was  offered  by  the  defense  at  trial.
    (Stinson’s counsel had hired an odontology expert but did not
    call him at trial.) The jury convicted Stinson of murder, and
    he  received  a  sentence  of  life  imprisonment.  After  the  trial,
    Johnson  used  the  Cychosz  bite  mark  evidence  for  teaching
    and career‐furthering purposes.
    More than twenty‐three years after Stinson’s conviction, a
    panel of four forensic odontologists reanalyzed the bite mark
    evidence and concluded that Stinson could not have made the
    bite marks found on Cychosz. DNA testing of blood found on
    Cychosz’s clothing also excluded Stinson. Stinson’s conviction
    was vacated on January 30, 2009, and he was released from
    prison. The State of Wisconsin dismissed all charges against
    him that July. In April 2010, the Wisconsin State Crime DNA
    Database matched the DNA profile of the blood found on Cy‐
    chosz’s clothing with that of a convicted felon, Moses Price.
    Price later pled guilty to Cychosz’s murder.
    Stinson  filed  the  present  suit  under  42  U.S.C.  §  1983
    against,  as  relevant  here,  Gauger,  Johnson,  and  Rawson.
    (Jackelen has passed away.) Stinson’s expert in this case, Dr.
    Bowers, reviewed the bite mark evidence and concluded that
    the  bite  marks  found  on  Cychosz  excluded  Stinson.  Con‐
    sistent with the panel, Bowers concluded that Johnson’s and
    Rawson’s explanations of why a bite mark appeared on Cy‐
    chosz’s body where Stinson has a missing tooth has “no em‐
    pirical or scientific basis and does not account for the absence
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    of any marks by the adjacent, fully developed teeth.” Bowers
    believed that the methods Johnson and Rawson used “were
    flawed and did not comport with the accepted standards of
    practice in the field of forensic odontology at the time.” Bow‐
    ers  concluded  that  “to  a  reasonable  degree  of  scientific  cer‐
    tainty  as  a  forensic  odontologist  …  Johnson  and  Rawson
    knowingly manipulated the bite mark evidence and Stinson’s
    dentition to appear to ‘match’ when there was in fact no cor‐
    relation between Stinson’s teeth and the bite marks inflicted
    on Cychosz’s body.”
    Gauger, Johnson, and Rawson moved for summary judg‐
    ment  on  immunity  grounds.  The  district  court  ruled  that
    Johnson and Rawson were not entitled to absolute immunity.
    All three defendants asserted qualified immunity. Regarding
    the due process claim of fabrication of evidence, the district
    court concluded that “Stinson has sufficient evidence to get to
    trial” and explained its conclusion that sufficient evidence in
    the record existed. The district court also stated that qualified
    immunity did not apply because the law as of 1984 and 1985
    clearly  established  that  an  investigator’s  fabrication  of  evi‐
    dence violated a criminal defendant’s constitutional rights. As
    for Stinson’s claim of failure to disclose pursuant to Brady v.
    Maryland,  373  U.S.  83  (1963),  that  the  opinions  were  fabri‐
    cated, the district court ruled that there was enough evidence
    to go to a factfinder on this claim as well. The court also stated
    that it was clearly established by 1984 that the withholding of
    information about fabricated evidence constituted a due pro‐
    cess violation, citing among others our decision in Whitlock v.
    Brueggemann, 682 F.3d 567 (7th Cir. 2012).
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    Gauger,  Johnson,  and  Rawson  appealed.  A  panel  of  our
    court concluded that the defendants were not entitled to ab‐
    solute immunity, that we had jurisdiction to consider appeals
    of  the  denial  of  qualified  immunity  at  summary  judgment,
    and that the defendants were entitled to qualified immunity.
    We granted rehearing en banc.
    II. ANALYSIS
    Our threshold question in any appeal is whether we have
    jurisdiction to hear the case. Congress has granted us jurisdic‐
    tion over appeals from “final decisions” of the district courts.
    28  U.S.C.  §  1291.  An  order  denying  a  motion  for  summary
    judgment is usually not a final decision within the meaning
    of  §  1291  and  so  is  not  generally  immediately  appealable.
    Ortiz v. Jordan, 562 U.S. 180, 188 (2011).
    Even if it is not the last order in a case, a district court de‐
    cision  is  “final”  within  the  meaning  of  §  1291  if  it  is  within
    “that small class which finally determine claims of right sep‐
    arable from, and collateral to, rights asserted in the action, too
    important  to  be  denied  review  and  too  independent  of  the
    cause itself to require that appellate consideration be deferred
    until the whole case is adjudicated.” Cohen v. Beneficial Indus.
    Loan Corp., 337 U.S. 541, 546 (1949). An appeal from the denial
    of a claim of absolute immunity is one such order that is ap‐
    pealable  before  final  judgment.  Mitchell  v.  Forsyth,  472  U.S.
    511, 525 (1985).
    A. No  Jurisdiction  to  Determine  Qualified  Immunity
    Appeal
    Our case involves both the denial of claims of absolute im‐
    munity as well as the denial of claims of qualified immunity.
    Qualified immunity protects government officials from civil
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    damages liability when their conduct does not violate “clearly
    established statutory or constitutional rights of which a rea‐
    sonable person would have known.” Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 457
    U.S. 800, 818 (1982). Qualified immunity is an immunity from
    suit and not just a defense to liability. Mitchell, 472 U.S. at 526.
    “[D]eterminations of evidentiary sufficiency at summary
    judgment  are  not  immediately  appealable  merely  because
    they happen to arise in a qualified‐immunity case.” Behrens v.
    Pelletier, 516 U.S. 299, 313 (1996). The Supreme Court ruled in
    Mitchell that, “to the extent that it turns on an issue of law,” a
    defendant may take an immediate appeal of a decision deny‐
    ing him qualified immunity at summary judgment. 472 U.S.
    at  530.  Later,  in  the  case  at  the  heart  of  this  appeal,  the  Su‐
    preme Court addressed appeals from the denial of qualified
    immunity at summary judgment when the denial is based on
    a  factual dispute  rather than  a legal question. See  Johnson v.
    Jones, 515 U.S. 304 (1995). For such cases, the Supreme Court
    made it clear: “we hold that a defendant, entitled to invoke a
    qualified immunity defense, may not appeal a district court’s
    summary  judgment  order  insofar  as  that  order  determines
    whether or not the pretrial record sets forth a ‘genuine’ issue
    of fact for trial.” Id. at 319‐20. The defendants here, invoking
    a  qualified  immunity  defense,  seek  to  appeal  the  district
    court’s summary judgment order that concluded the pretrial
    record set forth a genuine issue of fact for trial. While Johnson
    might seem to end matters, we examine whether any subse‐
    quent Supreme Court decisions limit Johnson’s reach.
    The first post‐Johnson case to which we turn is Scott v. Har‐
    ris, 550 U.S. 372 (2007). Like Johnson, Harris involved the de‐
    fendant’s appeal of the denial of a motion for summary judg‐
    ment on the basis of qualified immunity in an excessive force
    12                                                 Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    case.  In  upholding  the  denial  of  the  motion,  the  Supreme
    Court recognized that the district court had stated there were
    material issues of fact on which the qualified immunity deci‐
    sion  turned.  See  id.  at  376.  Nonetheless,  the  Supreme  Court
    addressed the appeal  on the merits.1 In light of a videotape
    that recorded the sequence of events and that “blatantly con‐
    tradicted” the plaintiff’s account, the Court concluded the de‐
    fendant officer’s actions were reasonable and did not violate
    the Fourth Amendment and that no reasonable jury could de‐
    cide otherwise. Id. at 380, 386. As a result, the defendant of‐
    ficer was entitled to summary judgment. Id. at 386.
    The Supreme Court’s decision in Harris does not mention
    Johnson, so it was not overruling Johnson. The Court’s silence
    came despite the Harris respondent’s argument to the Court
    that it lacked jurisdiction because of Johnson. See Brief for Re‐
    spondent  at  1‐3,  Scott  v.  Harris,  550  U.S.  372  (2007)  (No.  05‐
    1631),  2007  WL  118977,  at  *1‐3.  There  was  no  need  for  the
    Court to mention Johnson, though, because Johnson and Harris
    are  consistent.  The  events  in  Harris  were  captured  on  vide‐
    otape, and the question on appeal was the constitutionality of
    the officer’s conduct in light of the facts depicted on the un‐
    challenged videotape. So review was of the district court’s de‐
    cision on an issue of law, not of whether there was a genuine
    issue of fact for trial.
    Seven years later, the Supreme Court decided Plumhoff v.
    Rickard, 134 S. Ct. 2012 (2014). There the district court denied
    1 The Eleventh Circuit rejected the plaintiff’s argument that it lacked
    jurisdiction over the appeal, stating simply that the “appeal goes beyond
    the evidentiary sufficiency of the district court’s decision.” Harris v. Coweta
    Cty., Ga., 433 F.3d 807, 811 n.3 (11th Cir. 2005), rev’d sub nom. Scott v. Harris,
    550 U.S. 372 (2007).
    Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347                                          13
    the defendant officers’ motion for summary judgment on the
    basis of qualified immunity, ruling that the officers’ conduct
    violated the Fourth Amendment and was contrary to clearly
    established law. See id. at 2018. Again, unsurprisingly, the Su‐
    preme Court decided the legal question of whether there was
    excessive force and did not dismiss the case for lack of juris‐
    diction. The Court explained:
    The District Court order in this case is nothing like the
    order in Johnson. Petitioners do not claim that other of‐
    ficers  were  responsible  for  shooting  Rickard;  rather,
    they  contend  that  their  conduct  did  not  violate  the
    Fourth Amendment and, in any event, did not violate
    clearly  established  law.  Thus,  they  raise  legal  issues;
    these issues are quite different from any purely factual
    issues  that  the  trial  court  might  confront  if  the  case
    were  tried;  deciding  legal  issues  of  this  sort  is  a  core
    responsibility of appellate courts, and requiring appel‐
    late courts to decide such issues is not an undue bur‐
    den.
    Id. at 2019. The Court proceeded to decide the case on the mer‐
    its. Id. at 2020. Plumhoff too is consistent with Johnson. As in
    Harris, the Court decided a purely legal issue, not a question
    of evidentiary sufficiency. The Court did the same thing when
    it  considered an interlocutory qualified immunity  appeal  in
    Mullenix v. Luna, 136 S. Ct. 305 (2015) on the question of law
    of whether the defendants used excessive force.
    No Supreme Court decision has criticized Johnson; to the
    contrary,  the  Court  continues  to  rely  on  it  post‐Harris.  See
    Plumhoff, 134 S. Ct. at 2018–19; Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662,
    671, 673–74 (2009); Ortiz v. Jordan, 562 U.S. 180, 188–91 (2011).
    14                                                 Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    Nor has the Court disavowed its pre‐Harris reliance on John‐
    son in multiple cases. See Behrens v. Pelletier, 516 U.S. 299, 306,
    312–13 (1996); Johnson v. Fankell, 520 U.S. 911, 922 (1997); Craw‐
    ford‐El v. Britton, 523 U.S. 574, 595, 597 n.18 (1998); Richardson
    v. McKnight, 521 U.S. 399, 402 (1997).
    Johnson very much remains the law. As a result, we must
    adhere to the distinction it draws between appeals from de‐
    nial of summary judgment qualified immunity rulings based
    on  evidentiary  sufficiency  and  those  “presenting  more  ab‐
    stract issues of law.” Johnson, 515 U.S. at 317. If what is at issue
    in  the  sufficiency  determination  is  whether  the  evidence
    could support a finding that particular conduct occurred, “the
    question decided is not truly ‘separable’ from the plaintiff’s
    claim, and hence there is no ‘final decision’ under Cohen and
    Mitchell.” Behrens, 516 U.S. at 313. So appeal is possible only if
    “the  issue  appealed  concern[s],  not  which  facts  the  parties
    might  be  able  to  prove,  but,  rather,  whether  or  not  certain
    given  facts  show[]  a  violation  of  ‘clearly  established’  law.”
    Johnson, 515 U.S. at 311 (citing Mitchell, 472 U.S. at 528). John‐
    son’s  distinction  between  appeals  of  evidentiary  sufficiency
    determinations and those of legal issues also makes practical
    sense, as the principle helps keep qualified immunity inter‐
    locutory appeals within reasonable bounds.
    Our basic question in determining whether we have juris‐
    diction over this appeal,  then, is  whether our case is one of
    evidentiary  sufficiency  or  one  of  a  question  of  law.  Stinson
    maintained in this suit that Gauger, Johnson, and Rawson vi‐
    olated his due process right to a fair trial by: (1) fabricating
    the principal evidence of his guilt (the opinions that his den‐
    tition matched the bite marks on Cychosz), and (2) failing to
    disclose, as required by Brady, the defendants’ agreement to
    Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347                                    15
    fabricate this opinion evidence. (He also brought failure to in‐
    tervene and conspiracy claims that were predicated on these
    two  claims.).  In  ruling  on  the  fabrication  of  evidence  claim,
    the district court reviewed the evidence presented in the sum‐
    mary judgment materials and concluded that Stinson had suf‐
    ficient evidence to get to trial. Regarding the Brady theory, the
    district court concluded that “there are credibility questions
    that  preclude  summary  judgment”  and  so  “in  this  case  the
    jury will have to decide whether Gauger, Jackelen, and John‐
    son,  and  then  Rawson,  impliedly  agreed  that  the  odontolo‐
    gists  would  opine  that  Stinson’s  dentition  matched  the  bite
    marks.” Stinson v. City of Milwaukee, No. 09 C 1033, 2013 WL
    5447916, at *20 (E.D. Wis. Sept. 30, 2013). More particularly,
    the district court stated:
    The  evidence  in  the  record  about  Johnson’s  shift  re‐
    garding which tooth was missing after the detectives
    thought they had their man, the lack of a sketch at the
    John Doe hearing, Johnson’s call to Rawson, Rawson’s
    extremely brief initial review of the physical evidence
    in Las Vegas, and the existence of gross errors in John‐
    son’s  and  Rawson’s  review  of  the  physical  evidence
    (which  another  expert  says  could  not  be  honestly
    made) provides enough to allow Stinson to get John‐
    son,  Rawson,  and  Gauger  before  the  jury  for  evalua‐
    tion.
    Id.
    On  appeal,  the  defendants  assert  that  they  are  crediting
    Stinson’s account and asking only for a legal determination of
    whether Stinson’s version of the facts means they violated a
    clearly established constitutional right. Accepting a plaintiff’s
    version of the facts in the summary judgment record can help
    16                                                 Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    allow us to consider a defendant’s legal arguments in a qual‐
    ified  immunity  appeal.  Jones  v.  Clark,  630  F.3d  677,  680  (7th
    Cir. 2011). Here, however, the premise of the defendants’ as‐
    sertion is not true; rather, the defendants fail to take as true
    Stinson’s version of the facts, and they fail to do so on signifi‐
    cant  matters.  We  have  explained  that  if  “we  detect  a  back‐
    door effort to contest the facts, we will reject it and dismiss
    the appeal for want of jurisdiction.” Id.; see also id. (“[A]n ap‐
    peal from a denial of qualified immunity cannot be used as an
    early way to test the sufficiency of the evidence to reach the
    trier of fact. In such a case, where there really is no legal ques‐
    tion, we will dismiss for lack of jurisdiction.”). Said another
    way,  “an  appellant  challenging  a  district  court’s  denial  of
    qualified immunity effectively pleads himself out of court by
    interposing  disputed  factual  issues  in  his  argument.”
    Gutierrez v. Kermon, 722 F.3d 1003, 1010 (7th Cir. 2013).
    A  significant  factual  dispute  at  summary  judgment  was
    whether Johnson met with Gauger and Jackelen before the de‐
    tectives interviewed Stinson on November 6, 1984. Related to
    that was whether, if such a meeting took place, Johnson gave
    or showed the detectives a sketch at that meeting. The district
    court concluded that viewing the submitted evidence in the
    light most favorable to Stinson, such a meeting did take place,
    and that during the pre‐interview meeting Johnson showed
    the detectives a sketch of the assailant’s dentition reflecting a
    missing tooth to the right of the central incisor. This pre‐inter‐
    view meeting is critical because, if it happened, it showed that
    Johnson changed his analysis after the detectives interviewed
    Stinson. Although under Stinson’s version the original sketch
    showed a missing tooth to the right of the central incisor, after
    the detectives interviewed Stinson and met with Johnson on
    November 15, Johnson changed his analysis and said that the
    Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347                                  17
    assailant was missing the right central incisor, i.e., the right
    front  tooth,  which  is  the  same  tooth  the  detectives  had  ob‐
    served missing on Stinson. Johnson had not done any analysis
    of the bite marks between November 6 and 15 that would ex‐
    plain this change.
    The  pre‐interview  meeting  is  critical  to  Stinson’s  theory
    that the defendants fabricated evidence and failed to disclose
    Brady material, but the defendants do not credit that the meet‐
    ing took place in their briefs to us. To the contrary, after quot‐
    ing Gauger’s account of visiting Stinson for the first time in‐
    cluding that the detectives knew they were looking for some‐
    one with a missing tooth and a twisted tooth, Gauger’s brief
    asserts, “but since there is no report of any meeting with Dr.
    Johnson prior to this interview, it is not possible that it came
    from any meeting with the doctor.” See Opening Brief for the
    Respondent Gauger at 6, Stinson v. Gauger, 799 F.3d 833 (7th
    Cir.  2015)  (Nos.  13‐3343,  13‐3346,  13‐3347).  Johnson’s  and
    Rawson’s briefs omit the November 6 pre‐interview meeting,
    despite the centrality of it to the district court’s analysis and
    Stinson’s fabrication and Brady claims.
    Who made the first call to Rawson is another dispute of
    historical fact. The district court concluded that, viewing the
    evidence in the light most favorable to Stinson, Johnson made
    the  first  contact  with  Rawson.  That  Johnson  made  the  first
    contact was significant to the district court’s analysis because
    the call allowed Johnson to tell Rawson the “desired result”
    Rawson should reach. Stinson, 2013 WL 5447916, at *19. This
    call was also central to the district court’s determination that
    Rawson was part of the conspiracy. Gauger, however, states
    on appeal, again in contradiction to the district court’s view
    of the evidence, that Blinka was the one who first contacted
    18                                                 Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    and focused on Rawson. See Gauger Opening Br. at 19. John‐
    son’s and Rawson’s briefs do not even acknowledge that they
    ever communicated with each other.
    So despite their statements to the contrary, the defendants
    on appeal have not asked us to view the record in the light
    most favorable to Stinson. That means that although they try
    to suggest otherwise, the defendants are not asking us for re‐
    view of an abstract question of law, but rather they seek a re‐
    assessment of the district court’s conclusion that sufficient ev‐
    idence existed for Stinson to go to trial. See Jones, 630 F.3d at
    680; Gutierrez, 722 F.3d at 1010‐11, 1014 (dismissing appeal for
    lack of jurisdiction where qualified immunity argument de‐
    pended upon disputed fact).
    The  nature  of  the  defendants’  appeals  further  demon‐
    strates  that  they  do  not  present  the  requisite  abstract  ques‐
    tions of law. Johnson and Rawson maintain they did not in‐
    tentionally fabricate their opinions and so did not fail to turn
    over Brady material. But whether their opinions were inten‐
    tionally fabricated or honestly mistaken is a question of fact,
    not a question of law. Johnson itself explains that we lack ju‐
    risdiction over factual questions about whether there is suffi‐
    cient evidence of intent:
    For  another  thing,  questions  about  whether  or  not  a
    record demonstrates a “genuine” issue of fact for trial,
    if appealable, can consume inordinate amounts of ap‐
    pellate time. Many constitutional tort cases, unlike the
    simple “we didnʹt do it” case before us, involve factual
    controversies  about,  for  example,  intent—controver‐
    sies that, before trial, may seem nebulous. To resolve
    those controversies—to determine whether there is or
    is not a triable issue of fact about such a matter—may
    Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347                                  19
    require reading a vast pretrial record, with numerous
    conflicting affidavits, depositions, and other discovery
    materials.  This  fact  means,  compared  with  Mitchell,
    greater delay.
    Johnson, 515 U.S. at 316; see also Ortiz, 562 U.S. at 190 (stating
    defendants’  claims  of  qualified  immunity  did  not  present
    purely legal issues and that “[c]ases fitting that [legal issue]
    bill  typically  involve  contests  not  about  what  occurred,  or
    why an action was taken or omitted, but disputes about the
    substance and clarity of pre‐existing law.”).
    The district court concluded that the evidence in the rec‐
    ord meant that a reasonable jury could find that Johnson and
    Rawson  fabricated  their  opinions.  The  district  court  re‐
    counted that, taking the record in the light most favorable to
    Stinson, Johnson altered the missing tooth identification only
    after meeting with the detectives, after they interviewed Stin‐
    son and observed his dentition. Johnson did not have any new
    information before making the switch, and he has never said
    the  change  was  a  matter  of  reevaluation.  The  district  court
    also stated Johnson and Rawson had to have known that Stin‐
    son was excluded from causing the bite marks because of ob‐
    vious differences between Stinson’s teeth and the bite mark
    patterns. Bowers, Stinson’s expert in the current case, opined
    that  Johnson  and  Rawson  knowingly  manipulated  the  bite
    mark evidence and Stinson’s dentition to make them appear
    to match. Both the four‐odontologist panel and Bowers found
    no empirical or scientific basis for finding a bite mark on Cy‐
    chosz’s  body  where  Stinson  has  a  missing  tooth.  They  also
    found  inexplicable  Johnson’s  and  Rawson’s  conclusion  that
    Stinson’s upper second molars made a bite mark because mo‐
    20                                                 Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    lars are located so far back in the mouth. And if Stinson’s ver‐
    sion of the facts is accepted, there was also a cover up of the
    switch in tooth identification, as no police report accounts for
    it. From all of this evidence, the district court concluded there
    was sufficient evidence for a factfinder to draw an inference
    that the defendants were lying.
    We add a bit more about Rawson, who argues that he was
    too far removed from any misconduct and so should receive
    qualified immunity. As he emphasizes, he was not involved
    in the November meetings between the detectives and John‐
    son  or  in  Johnson’s  initial  analysis.  The  district  court  found
    sufficient evidence in the record of Rawson’s liability, noting
    that it was Johnson who first called Rawson, that when he did
    Johnson  phrased  the  “second  opinion”  request  as  a  request
    for confirmation of Johnson’s opinion, and that Bowers stated
    that confirmation could not be made with such a short review.
    The  district  court  also  reasoned  that  a  factfinder  could  find
    that Rawson complied, as supported by the short amount of
    time it took him to confirm Johnson’s findings in a Las Vegas
    hotel room and to state he concurred with Johnson. Whether
    the evidence was sufficient for a factfinder to find the requi‐
    site intent to fabricate is beyond the scope of our interlocutory
    review.
    Intent is, after all, most often proven circumstantially. See,
    e.g., Hoskins v. Poelstra, 320 F.3d 761, 764 (7th Cir. 2003) (stating
    that a meeting of minds “may need to be inferred even after
    an opportunity for discovery, for conspirators rarely sign con‐
    tracts”); United States v. Nocar, 497 F.2d 719, 725 (7th Cir. 1974)
    (“As courts have frequently pointed out, knowledge and in‐
    tent  must  often  be  proven  by  circumstantial  evidence.”).
    Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347                                 21
    Rarely will there be an admission of subjective intent. The in‐
    tent to fabricate is a question of fact that the district court con‐
    cluded could be inferred in Stinson’s favor by the evidence in
    the record at summary judgment, and the defendants’ chal‐
    lenge to whether that is true is the type of appeal forbidden
    by Johnson.
    Whether  Gauger  knew  that  Johnson  and  Rawson  fabri‐
    cated their opinions that the bite mark evidence matched Stin‐
    son’s dentition was a related, and important, factual dispute
    at summary judgment. Gauger argued that because he is not
    a  dentist,  he  cannot  be  blamed  for  Johnson’s  and  Rawson’s
    expert conclusions. The district court determined that taking
    the facts in Stinson’s favor, “Gauger was cognizant of John‐
    son’s  shifting  view  of  which  tooth  was  missing”  and  “was
    fully aware” of the “contents of his conversations with John‐
    son and what he implied in their second meeting, following
    his and Jackelen’s interview of Stinson,” namely that Gauger
    implied a desired result in the expert opinions. Stinson, 2013
    WL 5447916, at *20. But on appeal, Gauger argues that the ev‐
    idence  in  the  record  does  not  support  a  conclusion  that
    Gauger knew the dentists were producing false opinions. See
    Gauger Opening Br. at 25‐28, 40. This challenge to the suffi‐
    ciency of the evidence is again precluded by Johnson.
    We note that the district court’s conclusion that circum‐
    stantial evidence might prove intentional collusion between
    Gauger and the two experts is the kind of finding of historical
    fact that implicates Johnson, not an “abstract question of law.”
    Evidence in the summary judgment record supporting an in‐
    ference that there was an agreement included that there was
    an opportunity to agree (the detectives met with Johnson after
    interviewing Stinson, and Johnson called Rawson), and that
    22                                                 Nos. 13‐3343, 13‐3346 & 13‐3347
    later experts say no competent odontologist could have pos‐
    sibly concluded that Stinson was the assailant.
    In short, the appeals here are not like Harris and Plumhoff
    where the facts are clear and the only question is the legal im‐
    plication of those facts. Instead, the defendants’ appeals fail
    to take all the facts and inferences in the summary judgment
    record in the light most favorable to Stinson, and their argu‐
    ments  dispute  the  district  court’s  conclusions  of  the  suffi‐
    ciency of the evidence on questions of fact. With Johnson still
    very much controlling law, we lack jurisdiction over the de‐
    fendants’ qualified immunity appeals in this case.
    B.  Johnson  and  Rawson  Not  Entitled  to  Absolute  Im‐
    munity
    Johnson and Rawson also argued that they were entitled
    to absolute immunity because they were testifying witnesses.
    We have jurisdiction on appeal to review denials of absolute
    immunity at summary judgment. Mitchell, 472 U.S. at 525.
    Witnesses in a § 1983 trial have absolute immunity from
    liability based on their testimony at trial. Briscoe v. LaHue, 460
    U.S. 325, 345‐46 (1983). That principle does not carry the day
    here,  however.  The  Supreme  Court  has  ruled  that  absolute
    immunity protects a prosecutor for trial preparation and trial
    testimony, but not for investigating the case. Buckley v. Fitz‐
    simmons, 509 U.S. 259, 273 (1993); see also Rehberg v. Paulk, 132
    S. Ct. 1497, 1507 n.1 (2012) (finding witness entitled to abso‐
    lute immunity for grand jury testimony and grand jury testi‐
    mony preparation, but stating absolute immunity does not ex‐
    tend  “to  all  activity  that  a  witness  conducts  outside  of  the
    grand  jury  room”).  As  we  discussed  in  the  panel  opinion,
    Stinson’s claims against Johnson and Rawson focused on their
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    actions while Cychosz’s murder was being investigated, not
    on  their  testimony  at  trial  or  preparations  to  testify  at  trial.
    And if a prosecutor does not have absolute immunity for in‐
    vestigating the case, it follows that an expert witness does not
    either. So Johnson and Rawson are not entitled to absolute im‐
    munity.
    III. CONCLUSION
    The  qualified  immunity  appeals  are  DISMISSED,  and  the
    judgment of the district court is  AFFIRMED with respect to its
    absolute immunity rulings.
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    SYKES, Circuit Judge, dissenting, with whom BAUER,
    FLAUM, and MANION, Circuit Judges, join. My colleagues have
    misread the district judge’s decision and failed to recognize
    the limits of jurisdictional principle announced in Johnson v.
    Jones, 
    515 U.S. 304
    (1995). To the first point, the judge’s
    decision denying summary judgment actually contains two
    rulings. The judge held that (1) the evidentiary record re-
    veals genuine factual disputes about whether certain key
    events occurred; and (2) the defendants are not entitled to
    qualified immunity because the evidence in the record,
    when construed in Robert Stinson’s favor, would permit a
    reasonable jury to find that they violated his right to due
    process by fabricating evidence used to wrongly convict
    him, see Whitlock v. Brueggemann, 
    682 F.3d 567
    (7th Cir. 2012),
    and suppressing evidence of the fabrication, see Brady v.
    Maryland, 
    373 U.S. 83
    (1963), both of which are clearly estab-
    lished constitutional violations.
    The judge’s order does not neatly separate rulings (1) and
    (2), which I confess makes it more difficult to correctly apply
    the Johnson principle. But the absence of clean lines in the
    judge’s reasoning does not make the entire decision unre-
    viewable. Our task is to determine whether the decision
    below contains a legal ruling about qualified immunity. If it
    does, then we may review it. Here, there’s no question that
    the judge’s decision does contain a legal ruling about quali-
    fied immunity. For the reasons explained in my opinion for
    the panel, Johnson does not block jurisdiction over this
    appeal. Stinson v. Gauger, 
    799 F.3d 833
    , 838–40 (7th Cir. 2015).
    Johnson must be read in light of Scott v. Harris, 
    550 U.S. 372
    (2007), and Plumhoff v. Rickard, 
    134 S. Ct. 2012
    (2014). So
    read, Johnson does not apply and we have jurisdiction to
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    address and decide whether the defendants are entitled to
    qualified immunity.
    Scott and Plumhoff shed some new light on the limits of
    the Johnson jurisdictional principle, but my colleagues have
    misapplied Johnson on its own terms. To recapitulate, it is
    long-settled law that an order denying an immunity claim is
    effectively final with respect to the defendant’s right to avoid
    the burdens of litigation and trial, so appellate jurisdiction
    arises under 28 U.S.C. § 1291 pursuant to the collateral-order
    doctrine. Mitchell v. Forsyth, 
    472 U.S. 511
    , 524–25 (1985).
    Johnson announced a limited exception to this general rule.
    The Supreme Court held that “a defendant, entitled to
    invoke a qualified immunity defense, may not appeal a
    district court’s summary judgment order insofar as that order
    determines whether or not the pretrial record sets forth a
    ‘genuine’ issue of fact for trial.” 
    Johnson, 515 U.S. at 319
    –20
    (emphasis added).
    The “insofar as” language is important. So is the context
    of the Court’s opinion. The plaintiff in Johnson sued five
    police officers alleging that they severely beat him during his
    arrest, breaking his ribs and requiring hospitalization, and in
    so doing violated his Fourth Amendment right to be free
    from unreasonable seizure. 
    Id. at 307.
    Three of the officers
    moved for summary judgment, claiming qualified immunity
    and arguing that the plaintiff had no evidence that they were
    actually involved in the beating. 
    Id. at 307–08.
    The district
    court denied the motion, relying on the plaintiff’s statement
    that he was beaten by unidentified officers and the officers’
    admissions that they were present during the arrest. The
    court held that this evidence raised a genuine factual dispute
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    about whether these particular officers participated in the
    beating. 
    Id. Note that
    this ruling dealt only with a disputed question
    of historical fact, not the legal question whether the evidence
    about the circumstances surrounding the beating—assuming
    the officers participated—would permit a reasonable jury to
    find that the officers used excessive force and thus violated
    the plaintiff’s Fourth Amendment right to be free from
    unreasonable seizure. And it was precisely because the
    district court rested its ruling solely on a dispute about the
    historical facts that the Supreme Court said the order was
    not immediately appealable; the order contained no final
    legal determination about qualified immunity for the appel-
    late court to review. 
    Id. at 313–14.
        Return now to the “insofar as” language, which appears
    in the Court’s holding at the very end of the opinion. 
    Id. at 319–20.
    Just before this closing passage, the Court explained
    that some qualified-immunity rulings will have both re-
    viewable and unreviewable aspects, and acknowledged that
    it might sometimes be difficult “to separate an appealed
    order’s reviewable determination (that a given set of facts
    violates clearly established law) from its unreviewable
    determination (that an issue of fact is ‘genuine’).” 
    Id. at 319.
    After all, a qualified-immunity order is unreviewable only
    “insofar as” it makes the latter kind of determination; the
    former kind of determination is the legal question at the
    heart of any qualified-immunity claim and is immediately
    appealable under Mitchell notwithstanding the Court’s
    holding in Johnson. To illustrate the point, the Court “con-
    cede[d]” that if the district court “had determined that
    beating [the plaintiff] violated clearly established law, [the
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    officers] could have sought review of that determination.” 
    Id. at 318.
       The lesson of this part of the Court’s opinion in Johnson is
    that a “mixed” qualified-immunity order is immediately
    reviewable, at least in part. If the district court holds that the
    summary-judgment record, viewed in the plaintiff’s favor,
    shows a violation of clearly established law—that is, would
    permit a reasonable jury to find for the plaintiff on his
    constitutional claim—then the defendant may take an im-
    mediate appeal to obtain review of that determination even if
    the order also identifies a genuine factual dispute.
    Scott and Plumhoff bring this important point into sharper
    focus. As in Johnson, the plaintiffs in Scott and Plumhoff
    alleged that the police used excessive force in violation of the
    Fourth Amendment. Each case involved a high-speed vehic-
    ular chase. In Scott an officer rammed the plaintiff’s fleeing
    car during the pursuit, and the excessive-force question
    ultimately turned on whether a reasonable officer could
    have believed that the plaintiff’s flight posed an actual and
    imminent threat to public safety, justifying the use of this
    degree of 
    force. 550 U.S. at 375
    , 380–84. The officer moved
    for summary judgment based on qualified immunity, but the
    district court denied the motion, holding that genuine issues
    of fact required submission of the case to a jury. 
    Id. at 376.
    The Eleventh Circuit affirmed. 
    Id. The Supreme
    Court reversed, holding that the plaintiff’s
    version of the facts—he claimed that he remained in control
    of his vehicle throughout the pursuit so his flight was not a
    threat to public safety—was “blatantly contradicted by the
    record,” which included a video recording of the chase. 
    Id. at 380.
    Applying the summary-judgment standard, the Court
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    addressed “the factual issue whether [the plaintiff] was
    driving in such fashion as to endanger human life.” 
    Id. at 380–81.
    Based on the video recording, the Court held that the
    plaintiff’s flight “posed a substantial and immediate risk of
    serious physical injury to others” and that “no reasonable
    jury could conclude otherwise.” 
    Id. at 386.
    The Court thus
    had “little difficulty” concluding that “it was reasonable for
    [the officer] to take the action that he did.” 
    Id. at 384.
        Scott did not mention Johnson, but as I noted in the panel
    opinion, the Court’s decision “inescapably implies that
    Johnson should not be read too expansively.” 
    Stinson, 799 F.3d at 839
    . Indeed, “[t]he Court made this point explicit
    in Plumhoff, which specifically addressed the limits of
    Johnson’s no-jurisdiction holding in light of Scott.” 
    Id. Plumhoff was
    an excessive-force claim against police officers
    for shooting at a fleeing 
    car. 134 S. Ct. at 2017
    –18. As in Scott,
    the district court held that the record on summary judgment
    revealed a material factual dispute about the level of danger
    posed by the driver’s flight and on that basis rejected the
    officers’ claim of qualified immunity. 
    Id. at 2018.
    The Sixth
    Circuit initially dismissed the officers’ appeal under Johnson
    for lack of jurisdiction, but reversed itself in light of Scott and
    affirmed the district court’s denial of qualified immunity on
    the merits. 
    Id. The Supreme
    Court reversed. The Court first addressed
    the matter of appellate jurisdiction, noting that the order at
    issue in Johnson rested entirely on a question of historical fact
    about which officers participated in the beating. That is, the
    defendant officers “assert[ed] that they were not present at
    the time of the alleged beating and had nothing to do with
    it,” but the district court held that the evidentiary record
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    could “support a contrary finding.” 
    Id. at 2019.
    An “evidence
    sufficiency” ruling of that type, the Court explained, “does
    not present a legal question in the sense in which the term
    was used in Mitchell, the decision that first held that a pretri-
    al order rejecting a claim of qualified immunity is immedi-
    ately appealable.” 
    Id. But the
    order at issue in Plumhoff, the Court observed, “is
    nothing like the order in Johnson.” 
    Id. The defendant
    officers
    did not claim, for example, “that other officers were respon-
    sible for [the] shooting … ; rather, they contend[ed] that their
    conduct did not violate the Fourth Amendment and, in any
    event, did not violate clearly established law.” 
    Id. More specifically,
    the officers acknowledged that they fired shots
    at the fleeing car but argued that their conduct was a reason-
    able response to the degree of danger created by the driver’s
    flight, or alternatively, that a reasonable officer would not
    have known that the shooting was unjustified in light of that
    danger. 
    Id. These were
    “legal issues … quite different from
    any purely factual issues that the trial court might confront if
    the case were tried,” and “deciding legal issues of this sort is
    a core responsibility of appellate courts.” 
    Id. So Johnson
    did
    not apply. 
    Id. Moving to
    the merits, the Court held that the case was
    materially indistinguishable from Scott. The summary-
    judgment record established “beyond serious dispute that
    [the driver’s] flight posed a grave public safety risk, and
    here, as in Scott, the police acted reasonably in using deadly
    force to end that risk.” 
    Id. at 2022.
       As Scott and Plumhoff make clear, it’s a mistake to read
    Johnson as a categorical bar to appellate review of a
    qualified-immunity order whenever the district court makes
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    an “evidence sufficiency” ruling or concludes that facts are
    in dispute. If that were the right way to understand Johnson,
    then the district-court orders in Scott and Plumhoff were
    unreviewable and the Court would not have reached the
    merits of the qualified-immunity question. As the Court
    explained in some detail in Plumhoff, Johnson blocks an
    immediate appeal only when the district court’s order is
    limited to pure questions of historical fact—in other words,
    when the sole dispute is whether and how certain events or
    actions occurred. Johnson does not block immediate appeal
    when the issue is whether the evidence, if credited by a jury,
    shows a violation of a clearly established constitutional
    right. That is, after all, the core qualified-immunity question.
    Another way to think about the Johnson principle is this:
    The jurisdictional bar applies if the issues raised on appeal
    are limited to the “who, what, where, when, and how” of the
    case. The Johnson bar does not apply if the appeal asks
    whether the evidence in the summary-judgment record—
    construed in the plaintiff’s favor—would permit a reasona-
    ble jury to find that the defendant committed the claimed
    constitutional violation and the constitutional right in ques-
    tion was clearly established at the time the defendant acted.
    Properly understood, then, Johnson’s exception to the
    Mitchell rule is really quite narrow. That makes sense in this
    context. Qualified immunity protects public officers from the
    burdens of litigation and trial; it is immunity from suit, not
    just protection against liability. 
    Mitchell, 472 U.S. at 525
    –27.
    The parties in § 1983 litigation often disagree about key
    historical facts, and it’s not uncommon for district judges to
    deny qualified immunity on both factual and legal grounds.
    Immunity from suit wouldn’t mean much if these mixed
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    orders were categorically unreviewable. Indeed, the Court
    acknowledged in Johnson that many qualified-immunity
    appeals are of this mixed variety. 
    Johnson, 515 U.S. at 318
    –19.
    This is one of those mixed cases. The parties dispute two
    historical facts that the district judge concluded are material
    to the defendants’ potential liability: (1) whether Dr. Johnson
    met with the two detectives and showed them his initial
    sketch of the killer’s dentition before the detectives canvassed
    the neighborhood and interviewed Stinson; and (2) whether
    Dr. Johnson or Assistant District Attorney Daniel Blinka
    contacted Dr. Rawson for a second opinion. If the judge’s
    order denying summary judgment were limited to the
    identification of these key factual disputes, we would have
    no legal issue to review, Johnson would apply, and we’d have
    to dismiss the appeal for lack of appellate jurisdiction.
    But the judge’s order is not limited to identifying these
    material factual disputes. The judge also ruled that if
    Stinson’s version of these events is credited—namely, if the
    preinterview meeting occurred and Dr. Johnson rather than
    ADA Blinka called Dr. Rawson—then a reasonable jury
    could find, based on these facts and the rest of the eviden-
    tiary record (construed in Stinson’s favor), that the defend-
    ants conspired to violate Stinson’s right to due process by
    delivering up fabricated odontology opinions and covering
    up the falsehoods, two clearly established constitutional
    violations.
    This latter aspect of the judge’s summary-judgment order
    is a final no-immunity ruling; it fully resolved the qualified-
    immunity question against the defendants. That’s a legal
    issue and is subject to immediate review under Mitchell
    notwithstanding the presence of material factual disputes. If
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    this aspect of the judge’s decision is unreviewable until after
    trial, then the immunity is completely lost; any mistake in
    the judge’s legal conclusion goes wholly uncorrected.
    Regrettably, by misreading Johnson, Scott, and Plumhoff,
    my colleagues have stripped the defendants of their right to
    meaningful review of the judge’s adverse qualified-
    immunity ruling. That ruling is not unreviewable. Appellate
    jurisdiction is secure, and we should reverse.
    Giving the evidence a Stinson-friendly benefit of the
    doubt, we must accept the following as true for purposes of
    deciding whether the defendants are protected by qualified
    immunity: 1 (1) Dr. Johnson met with the detectives before
    their field canvas and showed them his preliminary sketch of
    1 At several points in the majority opinion, my colleagues say that the
    district judge “concluded” that certain historical events occurred and
    “determined” that certain facts exist. See, e.g., Majority Op. at p. 16 (“The
    district court concluded that viewing the submitted evidence in the light
    most favorable to Stinson, such a meeting did take place, and that during
    the pre-interview meeting Johnson showed the detectives a sketch of the
    assailant’s dentition reflecting a missing tooth to the right of the central
    incisor.”); 
    id. at p.
    17 (“The district court concluded that, viewing the
    evidence in the light most favorable to Stinson, Johnson made the first
    contact with Rawson.”); 
    id. at p.
    21 (“The district court determined that
    taking the facts in Stinson’s favor, ‘Gauger was cognizant of Johnson’s
    shifting view of which tooth was missing’ and ‘was fully aware’ of the
    ‘contents of his conversations with Johnson and what he implied in their
    second meeting, following his and Jackelen’s interview of Stinson,’
    namely that Gauger implied a desired result in the expert opinions.”).
    This phrasing is wrong as a matter of basic summary-judgment method-
    ology and potentially misleading. District judges are not empowered to
    make “conclusions” or “determinations” of fact at summary judgment.
    To be fair, the error originates in the decision below. We should not
    repeat it.
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    the killer’s dentition, which depicted a missing upper right
    lateral incisor (the tooth just to the right of the two front
    teeth); (2) Dr. Johnson changed his mind about which tooth
    the killer was missing after the detectives interviewed
    Stinson and saw that he was missing his right central incisor
    (that is, his right front tooth); (3) Dr. Johnson’s expert opin-
    ion that Stinson’s dentition matched the bite marks on the
    victim’s body fell far below the professional standards of
    forensic odontology at the time (this was not a close call,
    according to Stinson’s expert); (4) Dr. Johnson, not ADA
    Blinka, called Dr. Rawson to arrange a second opinion; and
    (5) Dr. Rawson’s opinion was likewise seriously substand-
    ard. 2
    Accepting these facts as true establishes only that
    Drs. Johnson and Rawson were grossly negligent in declar-
    ing that Stinson’s dentition matched the bite marks on the
    victim’s body. In other words, their opinions were objectively
    unreasonable, and egregiously so. But an error in forensic
    analysis—even a grossly unprofessional error—is not a due-
    process violation. Fabricating evidence to convict an inno-
    cent person is a clear due-process violation, but a due-
    process claim based on an allegation that an expert fabricat-
    ed his opinion requires evidence from which a reasonable
    jury could infer that the opinion was both wrong and that the
    expert knew it was wrong at the time he gave it. In other
    2 Stinson’s expert may be qualified to offer an opinion about the deep
    flaws in the odontologists’ work, but he is not qualified to “opine[] that
    Johnson and Rawson knowingly manipulated the bite mark evidence and
    Stinson’s dentition to make them appear to match.” Majority Op. at p. 19
    (emphasis added). Nothing in the record supports the expert’s ability to
    know or opine about their state of mind.
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    words, it requires evidence that the expert was not just badly
    mistaken but that he lied. So Stinson needed at least some
    circumstantial evidence to support an inference that
    Drs. Johnson and Rawson knew that he was not the killer
    and implicated him anyway.
    He has none. The evidence shows only that Drs. Johnson
    and Rawson were grossly negligent in their opinions and
    had an opportunity to reach an agreement with Gauger to
    frame Stinson. A deeply flawed forensic opinion plus evi-
    dence of an opportunity to plot a conspiracy is not enough.
    Stinson has no evidence of what was said in the preinterview
    meeting between Dr. Johnson and the detectives. He has no
    evidence of what was said in the phone call between
    Drs. Johnson and Rawson (assuming it occurred). He has no
    evidence of any motive on the part of Drs. Johnson or
    Rawson to falsely implicate Stinson. Why would creden-
    tialed forensic experts want to frame him? A jury could only
    guess. It’s sheer speculation that a conspiracy to frame
    Stinson was hatched in these conversations and that the
    experts implemented it by lying to the prosecutor, the John
    Doe judge, and the judge and jury at trial. No evidence exists
    to support this theory.
    Think of it this way: Would the evidence in this record
    establish probable cause for a warrant to arrest these de-
    fendants for committing perjury in the John Doe proceeding
    or at trial? Clearly not. A badly botched expert opinion plus
    a mere opportunity to plot a frame-up does not support
    probable cause for a perjury charge. Something more would
    be needed.
    On this record, even when construed in Stinson’s favor,
    no reasonable jury could find that Drs. Johnson and Rawson
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    violated Stinson’s right to due process by fabricating their
    expert opinions and suppressing evidence of the fabrication.
    The odontologists are entitled to qualified immunity.
    The related claim against Gauger is entirely derivative.
    Stinson claims that the detective solicited the fabrication and
    participated in a cover-up. Because no reasonable jury could
    find that the odontologists fabricated their opinions, Gauger
    too is entitled to qualified immunity.
    I respectfully dissent.