United States v. Lonnie Whitaker ( 2008 )


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  •                            In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    No. 08-1259
    U NITED STATES OF A MERICA,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    v.
    L ONNIE W HITAKER,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Western District of Wisconsin.
    No. 07 CR 123—Barbara B. Crabb, Chief Judge.
    A RGUED S EPTEMBER 3, 2008—D ECIDED O CTOBER 27, 2008
    Before P OSNER, R IPPLE and E VANS, Circuit Judges.
    R IPPLE, Circuit Judge. When Lonnie Whitaker’s car was
    searched, a police officer found a gun. Mr. Whitaker
    was subsequently charged with unlawfully possessing
    a firearm and ammunition as a convicted felon, in viola-
    tion of 
    18 U.S.C. § 922
    (g)(1). He filed a motion to
    suppress the gun obtained from his car. The magistrate
    judge, after holding an evidentiary hearing, recommended
    that the district court deny the motion. The district court
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    adopted the magistrate judge’s report. Mr. Whitaker
    pled guilty, but reserved his right to appeal the adverse
    decision on his suppression motion. The district court
    sentenced Mr. Whitaker to 41 months’ imprisonment;1
    Mr. Whitaker filed a timely notice of appeal.2 Because we
    believe that the district court correctly determined that
    the search was based on reasonable suspicion, we affirm
    the judgment of the district court.
    I
    BACKGROUND
    A. Facts 3
    On June 17, 2007, shortly before 8:00 p.m., an anonymous
    individual called 911 to report a loud argument in a food
    store parking lot. The caller stated that he was unable to
    get close to the argument and, consequently, did not
    know the number of individuals involved or their gen-
    ders. He did state, however, that, at the scene of the
    altercation, there were at least two people standing by
    a car, “two males, that I can see.” R. 32. Later in the call,
    he described them as “pretty good-sized black guys.” 
    Id.
    A second man called 911 soon after. He reported a man
    with a gun in the same parking lot. This second caller
    1
    The jurisdiction of the district court is based on 
    18 U.S.C. § 3231
    .
    2
    The jurisdiction of this court is based on 
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
    .
    3
    We base our rendition of the facts on the magistrate judge’s
    report, which was adopted by the district court.
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    identified himself as “Travis” and provided the operator
    with a phone number. Travis stated that he had been
    shopping when he saw his female cousin and her boy-
    friend, Lonnie, arguing. Lonnie was standing next to his
    silver car; Travis’ cousin stood next to her blue van. Travis
    reported that “we pulled up to ask was she all right and
    he pulled a gun on us!” 
    Id.
     Travis’ cousin urged them to
    leave, which they did. Travis then called 911.
    After the first call to 911, the police dispatcher alerted
    units in the area. Police officers Caleb Bedford, Chad
    Joswiak and Becky Overland headed, each separately,
    toward the parking lot. As the officers were en route to
    the scene, “alert tones”4 went off on the radio, and the
    dispatcher informed them that a second caller had
    reported that a black man and a black woman were
    arguing in a silver car in the parking lot and that the
    man had displayed a handgun. The officers did not
    know any of the other information provided by Travis.
    The officers easily were able to locate a silver car parked
    near a van in the southwest corner of the parking lot.
    Officer Bedford arrived first and parked near the car,
    which actually was a gray Chevrolet Impala. He
    stepped out of his squad car and walked toward the
    driver’s side of the Chevrolet Impala. The driver stepped
    out of the vehicle to face Officer Bedford. Officer Joswiak
    arrived and began walking toward the passenger side
    of the car.
    4
    According to Officer Joswiak’s testimony, an “alert tone” is
    a loud two-tone frequency that indicates to officers that a
    call came in involving weapons. R. 23 at 14.
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    Officer Bedford asked the man, soon identified as Lonnie
    Whitaker, if he and the woman were having an argument.5
    Officer Bedford saw nothing in Mr. Whitaker’s hands and
    asked Mr. Whitaker for permission to frisk for a weapon.
    After receiving permission, he frisked Mr. Whitaker
    and found no weapon.
    The female passenger, soon identified as Keisha Marsh,
    stepped out of the car to face Officer Joswiak. He observed
    that she was crying and that she had large wet circles
    on both shoulders of her shirt, which he presumed were
    from tears. Officer Joswiak asked Marsh if she and
    Mr. Whitaker had been arguing or fighting; she
    responded that they had been arguing in the car. He
    asked Marsh whether “everything was alright in the
    vehicle,” and she said yes. R. 20, Ex. 2 at 6. Officer Joswiak
    asked Marsh if there was any problem where some type
    of weapon had been involved; she responded that there
    was not, and that there had just been an argument between
    her and Mr. Whitaker. When asked, she stated that she
    had no weapons. Officer Joswiak patted her down, but
    found no weapons.
    Officer Joswiak announced to Marsh that he was going to
    do a weapons sweep of the passenger compartment of
    the car. Marsh said nothing but maintained her position
    blocking the passenger-side door. Officer Joswiak physi-
    cally guided Marsh out of the way and searched the
    car; he found a black semiautomatic handgun in the
    center console. Officer Bedford then arrested Mr. Whitaker.
    5
    The record is unclear whether Mr. Whitaker responded.
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    Later, after Mr. Whitaker had been conveyed to a deten-
    tion facility, Officer Joswiak contacted the first 911 caller
    at the number listed in the records. Speaking with the
    first caller, Officer Joswiak was able to corroborate
    Mr. Whitaker’s build and what he was wearing. The first
    caller also stated that, in addition to two men
    arguing, there was a third person seated in the front
    passenger seat of the car. Officer Joswiak was unable to
    reach the second caller who had identified himself as
    Travis, although the officer reached a voice mail box for
    “Smokey.” Detectives later were able to locate and inter-
    view this second caller despite the fact that he had given
    a false name and phone number.
    II
    DISCUSSION
    We review a district court’s legal analysis on a motion
    to suppress de novo. United States v. Riley, 
    493 F.3d 803
    ,
    808 (7th Cir. 2007). Pure findings of fact, however, are
    reviewed for clear error. United States v. Faison, 
    195 F.3d 890
    , 893 (7th Cir. 1999).
    A.
    Mr. Whitaker submits that the police did not have
    reasonable suspicion to believe that a crime had been
    committed. He contends that the police lacked reasonable
    suspicion to conduct a search of the car for weapons
    because the 911 caller identified as “Travis” was anony-
    mous. He notes that Travis intended to conceal his
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    identity and was successful in doing so, undermining
    the reliability of the 911 call. Mr. Whitaker further
    submits that the first anonymous phone call was too
    vague to corroborate Travis’ later call.
    Mr. Whitaker further contends that the police did not
    observe any behavior that justified a Terry pat-down. See
    Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 30 (1968). In his view, the anony-
    mous tip could not be a valid basis for the search
    because the information was not verified independently
    by the police. See Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 272 (2000);
    Alabama v. White, 
    496 U.S. 325
    , 332 (1990). Mr. Whitaker
    distinguishes this case from United States v. Drake, 
    456 F.3d 771
     (7th Cir. 2006), in which the caller to 911
    identified herself by her first and last name, stayed on
    the scene until the police arrived and provided detailed
    information to the operator. 
    Id. at 772-74
    . He notes that,
    in this case, Travis provided a false name and phone
    number. He points out that Travis failed to provide a
    contemporaneous description of an emergency or a
    detailed account of the suspect car, and did not remain
    at the scene.
    Mr. Whitaker further submits that, even if the second
    caller cannot be characterized as anonymous, the officers
    still lacked collective knowledge of the details of Travis’
    call at the time of the search. He acknowledges that, under
    the collective knowledge doctrine, law enforcement
    officers are considered to possess information known to
    other officers but not known to them. United States v.
    Lenoir, 
    318 F.3d 725
    , 728 (7th Cir. 2003) (holding that
    when police officers are in communication regarding a
    suspect, “the knowledge of one officer can be imputed to
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    the other officers under the collective knowledge doc-
    trine”). Nevertheless, he submits that the doctrine does
    not apply to knowledge that civilian 911 operators do not
    share with the officers. See United States v. Colon, 
    250 F.3d 130
    , 137 (2d Cir. 2001) (holding that a 911 operator
    was not capable of determining whether reasonable
    suspicion existed for a stop and frisk). In Mr. Whitaker’s
    view, at the time of the search, the officers were aware
    only that a man and a woman were in a silver car and
    that a weapon was involved. He concludes that this
    information was not predictive and that it therefore
    could not be used to establish reasonable suspicion under
    J.L., 
    529 U.S. at 271-72
    .
    The Government takes a different view. It contends that
    the district court was correct in determining that J.L. is
    not relevant because that case dealt with whether the
    initial stop was justified. It emphasizes that there can be
    two stages to a Terry stop: the actual stop itself and a
    protective pat-down search. United States v. Brown, 
    232 F.3d 589
    , 592 (7th Cir. 2000). Because the holding in J.L. is
    limited to an actual stop, submits the Government, the
    reasoning in J.L. is not applicable to this case; this case
    concerns only the legality of a search or protective sweep
    after a consensual encounter of the police with the defen-
    dant. J.L., 
    529 U.S. at 274
    . The Government submits that
    the only issue is whether, under an objective test, the
    police officers had a reasonable suspicion that Mr.
    Whitaker had a gun in his possession. Brown, 
    232 F.3d at 594
    . In the Government’s view, the district court
    identified “specific, articulable suspicions” that Mr.
    Whitaker possessed a gun. Appellee Br. at 14. When Travis
    called 911, he identified himself as Marsh’s cousin, and
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    described an encounter in which Mr. Whitaker had
    waved him away with a handgun. This call alone,
    contends the Government, was enough to establish
    articulable suspicion. It further agrees with the district
    court’s conclusion that the first caller provided some
    minimal corroboration. See White, 
    496 U.S. at 331
    .
    The Government further submits that, contrary to Mr.
    Whitaker’s argument, this case does not involve truly
    anonymous callers because the police were able to talk
    to both 911 callers after the fact and because Travis identi-
    fied himself as Marsh’s cousin. See Drake, 
    456 F.3d at 774
    . It also agrees with the district court that the 911
    dispatcher should be considered an integral part of
    the investigative process for purposes of the collective
    knowledge doctrine.
    Moreover, submits the Government, corroboration of
    Travis’ statements occurred when the officers arrived at
    the parking lot, and observed the make and color of the
    car, its location in the parking lot, its proximity to the
    blue van and that two people were in the car. Marsh
    also confirmed that she and Mr. Whitaker had been
    arguing. The Government contends that her reluctance
    to move away from the car door gave Officer Joswiak a
    reason to be suspicious.
    B.
    The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the
    United States prevents the Government from conducting
    unreasonable searches and seizures. United States v.
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    Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    , 273 (2002). The jurisprudence of
    the Supreme Court makes clear that the primary bulwark
    against such conduct is the procurement of a warrant from
    a neutral and detached magistrate. Groh v. Ramirez,
    
    540 U.S. 551
    , 575 (2004) (“The point of the Fourth Amend-
    ment . . . is not that it denies law enforcement the
    support of the usual inferences which reasonable men
    draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring
    that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached
    magistrate instead of being judged by the officer
    engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting
    out crime.”) (quoting Johnson v. United States, 
    333 U.S. 10
    ,
    13-14 (1948) (alteration in original)). That same jurispru-
    dence makes clear, however, that there are certain situa-
    tions, defined in case law, when a warrantless search or
    seizure is reasonable. See United States v. Allman, 
    336 F.3d 555
    , 556 (7th Cir. 2003) (discussing exceptions to the
    warrant requirement recognized by the Supreme Court).
    This case involves one of those exceptions.
    1.
    We begin our analysis of the factual circumstances by
    examining the officers’ initial encounter with Mr.
    Whitaker. The Government contends, and, after a hearing
    the magistrate judge and the district court agreed, that this
    initial encounter was consensual in nature and there-
    fore did not constitute a seizure within the meaning of
    the Fourth Amendment. See United States v. Scheets, 
    188 F.3d 829
    , 836-37 (7th Cir. 1999). Whether a police-citizen
    encounter is consensual is a question of fact, and we
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    therefore review it for clear error.6
    Upon examination of the record, we must conclude
    that the district court did not clearly err in reaching its
    decision. At the time of the encounter, Mr. Whitaker’s
    car was parked in a food store parking lot. Officer
    Bedford was the first to arrive at the scene. In his report,
    he states that he pulled up behind the gray Chevrolet
    Impala; he does not mention whether he had his emer-
    gency lights on or whether his weapon was drawn. R. 20,
    Ex. 1. Officer Bedford stepped out of the vehicle and
    began to approach the driver’s side of the car. At this
    point, Mr. Whitaker stepped out of the car and faced
    Officer Bedford.
    Officer Joswiak and Officer Overland arrived soon
    afterwards.7 Officer Bedford already was parked behind
    Mr. Whitaker’s car on the driver’s side; Officer Joswiak
    parked his squad car behind Mr. Whitaker’s car on the
    6
    See United States v. Nobles, 
    69 F.3d 172
    , 179-80 (7th Cir. 1995)
    (holding that whether an encounter between the police and
    the defendants was consensual is a question of fact); United
    States v. Maldonado, 
    38 F.3d 936
    , 939 (7th Cir. 1994) (“The
    question of whether a particular encounter is voluntary is a
    factual one, dependant on the circumstances of each case.”)
    (quoting United States v. Berke, 
    930 F.2d 1219
    , 1221 (7th
    Cir. 1991) (internal quotations omitted)).
    7
    From reviewing the record, it appears that Officer Overland
    remained in her squad car during the encounter. The record
    is unclear regarding where Officer Overland parked her squad
    car.
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    passenger side. The two squad cars were side-by-side
    behind the Chevrolet Impala.
    A van with Marsh’s children was parked next to the
    Chevrolet Impala. The record does not indicate whether
    any vehicle was parked in front of Mr. Whitaker’s car,
    preventing him from driving away. As the officers ap-
    proached the car, they did not assert their authority in a
    manner that fairly could be characterized as restricting
    the movements of Mr. Whitaker and his companion.8
    The officers did not convey, by word or action, that the
    occupants were to exit the vehicle. Indeed, as Officer
    Bedford approached, Mr. Whitaker got out of his car of
    his own accord to meet him.
    Although neither the Supreme Court nor this court has
    decided a case identical in all respects to our own, some
    of our cases are instructive. We have held that, if a driver
    stops a car on his own and no other coercive activity
    occurs, a police encounter is consensual. United States v.
    Hendricks, 
    319 F.3d 993
    , 999-1000 (7th Cir. 2003). In
    Hendricks, a police car without its emergency lights fol-
    lowed a car into a gas station. The officer parked his
    car about fifteen feet from the car, and the occupant of
    the car got out and began to approach the officer. The
    officer radioed for backup, then got out of the car and
    spoke with the driver. We held that the initial encounter
    was consensual and that no stop had occurred until a
    8
    The record contains no evidence that the officers had their
    emergency lights on or had their guns drawn.
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    second officer arrived with his emergency lights activated.
    
    Id. at 999
    .
    Similarly, in United States v. Clements, 
    522 F.3d 790
    , 792
    (7th Cir. 2008), the police received an anonymous tip that
    a car had been parked and running for four hours in
    front of the caller’s house. Two police officers investi-
    gated. They stopped their squad car fifteen to twenty feet
    behind the parked car, shined a spotlight on the car and
    activated their emergency lights. When they approached
    the car, the occupant of the car raised a knife at the officers.
    The officers ordered him to drop the weapon and step out
    of the car, and when he did, a magazine containing ten
    cartridges of long rifle ammunition fell out of the car. We
    held that the district court did not plainly err in admitting
    the evidence.9 
    Id. at 794
    . We furthermore held that the car
    was not seized because the driver had stopped the car
    voluntarily, not because of the flashing lights. 
    Id. at 794-95
    .
    We emphasized that, other than flashing lights for iden-
    tification and safety purposes, the officers did not do
    anything to make the driver feel that his freedom was
    restrained, such as drawing their weapons, surrounding
    the car with squad cars, touching the driver or using
    forceful language prior to the knife being displayed. 
    Id.
    By contrast, in United States v. Pavelski, 
    789 F.2d 485
    , 488-
    89 (7th Cir. 1986), we determined that surrounding a car
    on three sides constitutes a stop. In that case, a deputy
    9
    We also held that the defendant had waived his Fourth
    Amendment argument. United States v. Clements, 
    522 F.3d 790
    ,
    794 (7th Cir. 2008). The discussion of whether the stop was
    consensual was an alternative holding.
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    was following a car when it turned into a parking lot. Id. at
    486-87. The deputy stopped his patrol car behind the
    parked car, and a second officer later parked beside it. At
    this point, the officers had no suspicion that the driver
    or the other occupants had violated any laws. A third
    officer arrived, and parked twenty to thirty feet in front
    of the car.
    The driver exited the car, and the deputy began ques-
    tioning him. The deputy then tapped the window of the
    left rear passenger door, and, after the occupant lowered
    the window, began questioning him. Id. Not having
    reasonable suspicion but rather a “gut feeling,” the
    officer searched the car and found weapons and various
    items associated with a recent bank robbery. We noted
    that, prior to the third squad car arriving, the car had not
    been subject to a Terry stop. Id. at 488. When the third
    patrol car parked in front of the defendant’s car, however,
    a stop had occurred. Id. at 488-89. See also United States
    v. Green, 
    111 F.3d 515
    , 520 (7th Cir. 1997) (holding that
    where officers blocked a car’s exit, the stop was not
    consensual); United States v. Packer, 
    15 F.3d 654
    , 657 (7th
    Cir. 1994) (holding that a stop occurred where the offi-
    cers’ cars were parked in front of and behind the defen-
    dant’s car with the “take down” light shining through
    defendant’s car’s windows).
    The question of whether this encounter was consensual
    in this case is a close one. However, assessing the record in
    its totality, we must conclude that, on this fact-bound
    question, the district court’s decision was not clearly
    erroneous.
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    2.
    Even if the officers’ initial encounter with Mr. Whitaker
    cannot be characterized as consensual, we believe that the
    officers had the authority to stop Mr. Whitaker long
    enough to ascertain whether illegal activity was afoot.
    Any discussion of this area must begin with the
    Supreme Court’s seminal decision in Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
     (1968). In Terry, the Supreme Court held:
    where a police officer observes unusual conduct
    which leads him reasonably to conclude in light of his
    experience that criminal activity may be afoot and
    that the persons with whom he is dealing may be
    armed and presently dangerous, where in the course
    of investigating this behavior he identifies himself as
    a policeman and makes reasonable inquiries, and
    where nothing in the initial stages of the encounter
    serves to dispel his reasonable fear for his own or
    others’ safety, he is entitled for the protection of
    himself and others in the area to conduct a carefully
    limited search of the outer clothing of such persons
    in an attempt to discover weapons which might be
    used to assault him.
    
    Id. at 30
    . The Court has made clear that this exception to
    the warrant requirement does not give an investigating
    officer carte blanche to detain an individual, even tempo-
    rarily, simply because the officer believes that such
    action will aid his investigation. Most notably, in J.L.,
    
    529 U.S. at 271-72
    , the Court held that the stop of an
    individual solely on the anonymous tip of an individual
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    usually falls beyond the bounds of reasonableness.1 0
    Such a tip, noted the court, simply tends to identify a
    particular person, but, unless it contains some prediction
    of future behavior that can be identified by independent
    investigation, there is nothing to corroborate its
    assertion of illegality. 
    Id.
     Otherwise, “any person
    seeking to harass another [could] set in motion an intru-
    sive, embarrassing police search of the targeted person
    simply by placing an anonymous call,” 
    id. at 272
    ,
    accusing the targeted individual of an illegality.
    The situation before us today is very different from
    the one presented in J.L. Here, the 911 center received
    two calls in close succession that alerted the police to an
    ongoing altercation in a food store parking lot. The
    first call was anonymous; the second call was from an
    individual who gave a name and telephone number,1 1
    claimed to be related to one of the people involved in
    the altercation and said that his own intervention
    attempt had ended with Mr. Whitaker threatening him
    with a gun. At the scene, the officers found the two vehi-
    10
    In Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
     (2000), the police had received
    an anonymous call reporting that a black man wearing a
    plaid shirt and standing at a particular bus stop was carrying a
    gun. With no other information, officers went to the location,
    frisked the individual and found a firearm.
    11
    The record shows that the officers later discovered that the
    caller had given the 911 operator a false name and telephone
    number. However, we measure the strength of an officer’s
    information at the time he acted. Gower v. Vercler, 
    377 F.3d 661
    ,
    668 (7th Cir. 2004). Moreover, Travis correctly identified
    himself as Marsh’s cousin.
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    cles described in the calls and two individuals in one
    of those vehicles. The weapon described by one of the
    callers was not immediately visible.
    In United States v. Drake, 
    456 F.3d 771
     (7th Cir. 2006),
    while acknowledging the strictures of J.L., we noted that
    the reporting of an ongoing emergency presents special
    problems and obligations on the police. 
    Id. at 774-75
    .
    Accordingly, we held that, when the police respond to
    an emergency as a result of a 911 call, the exigencies of
    the situation do not require further pre-response verifica-
    tion of the caller’s identity before action is taken.
    Indeed, we recently have encountered this situation
    in another case. In United States v. Hicks, 
    531 F.3d 555
    (7th Cir. 2008), we held that the officer had reasonable
    suspicion to stop the defendant based on a tip which
    reported an ongoing emergency to 911. 
    Id. at 558-59
    .
    We held that J.L. does not govern because the caller
    “gave the 911 operator enough information to identify
    him and his location, and because he reported an on-
    going emergency.” 
    Id.
     We further noted that every circuit
    to confront the issue had distinguished J.L. when the
    tip was “not one of general criminality, but of an
    ongoing emergency, or very recent criminal activity.” 1 2 
    Id.
    12
    See, e.g., United States v. Brown, 
    496 F.3d 1070
    , 1077 (10th Cir.
    2007) (“[W]e conclude it was reasonable for the police to
    further credit the information provided in an emergency 911
    call because the caller was apparently seeking protection and
    aid for a friend.”); United States v. Elston, 
    479 F.3d 314
    , 319 (4th
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    12
    (...continued)
    Cir. 2007) (holding that a “911 report, even if anonymous, bore
    strong indicia of reliability and alerted the police officers to a
    serious and imminent danger” and that “[g]iven such cir-
    cumstances, the district court did not err in concluding that
    the officers possessed information sufficient to justify a Terry
    stop” of the defendant); United States v. Drake, 
    456 F.3d 771
    , 775
    (7th Cir. 2006) (holding that we “presume the reliability of an
    eyewitness 911 call reporting an emergency situation for
    purposes of establishing reasonable suspicion, particularly
    when the caller identifies herself”); United States v.
    Terry-Crespo, 
    356 F.3d 1170
    , 1176 (9th Cir. 2004) (“Police delay
    while attempting to verify an identity or seek corroboration
    of a reported emergency may prove costly to public safety and
    undermine the 911 system’s usefulness. . . . The Fourth Amend-
    ment does not require the police to conduct further pre-response
    verification of a 911 caller’s identity where the caller reports
    an emergency. Accordingly, an emergency 911 call is entitled
    to greater reliability than an anonymous tip concerning
    general criminality.”); United States v. Holloway, 
    290 F.3d 1331
    ,
    1337-38 (11th Cir. 2002) (noting that in an emergency, “officers
    are compelled to search by a desire to locate victims and the
    need to ensure their own safety and that of the public,” and
    holding that “in an emergency, the probable cause element
    may be satisfied where officers reasonably believe a person is
    in danger”).
    One case in the Second Circuit expresses reservations concern-
    ing whether the collective knowledge doctrine should be
    extended to the 911 employee who takes the call and passes on
    the emergency nature of the situation to police officers
    operating in the field. See United States v. Colon, 
    250 F.3d 130
     (2d
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    18                                                  No. 08-1259
    (citations omitted). We further stated:
    A rule requiring a lower level of corroboration
    before conducting a stop on the basis of an emergency
    report is not simply an emergency exception to the
    rule of J.L. It is better understood as rooted in the
    special reliability inherent in reports of ongoing
    emergencies. Based on that special reliability, the
    Supreme Court has held that reports of ongoing
    12
    (...continued)
    Cir. 2001). The panel’s misgivings in that case were based on
    the training given to employees who are not police officers. 
    Id. at 135-37
    . Our case law, and indeed the case law of the other
    circuits, has not dwelled on the same reservations. In Drake, we
    held that 911 reports by identified callers can provide the
    police with reasonable suspicion and that 911 employees are
    part of the police collective. Drake, 
    456 F.3d at 775
    . Indeed, it
    appears that the Second Circuit has modified its position and
    would follow the path that we have chosen here in a case such
    as this where the callers were describing events of an
    emergency nature occurring as the individual reported them.
    See Anthony v. City of New York, 
    339 F.3d 129
    , 136 (2d Cir. 2003)
    (“In the instant case, the call came from the same location to
    which the police responded, and more importantly, the caller
    described an immediate and deadly threat of harm to which
    she herself was being exposed at that location. The concern
    we expressed in Kerman regarding the reliability of anonymous
    and uncorroborated calls—that is, calls reporting an emergency
    at a different location and involving someone other than the
    caller—is not implicated here, where the caller expressed an
    immediate risk of harm to herself, and where the address
    from which the call was placed was verified.”).
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    emergencies made in 911 calls are subject to less
    testing in court than other out-of-court statements.
    Similarly, when an officer relies on an emergency
    report in making a stop, a lower level of corroboration
    is required.
    Id. at 559-60 (internal citations omitted).
    The First Circuit also has mentioned the importance
    of the police being able to take quick action during an
    ongoing emergency. In United States v. Ruidiaz, 
    529 F.3d 25
    , 27 (1st Cir. 2008), a 911 caller reported a shooting at
    or near a particular address. He noted that the
    individuals involved were wearing red shirts and that
    the shooter or shooters were in a green Mercedes-Benz
    parked at the address he provided. The caller confirmed
    the number from which he was calling, but did not
    provide his name and warned that he would not be on the
    street when the police arrived. The officers who arrived
    found the green car as described and noticed that it was
    parked in violation of two municipal ordinances. They
    found the defendant slumped over in the passenger seat.
    When they touched the man’s shoulder, he screamed a
    profanity. The officers searched the man and found a
    handgun. One of the officers called the phone number
    provided to 911 and spoke with someone, but the
    person would not identify himself; nor is it clear that it
    was the same person. The First Circuit held that, based
    on a totality of the circumstances, there was reasonable
    suspicion for the search. 
    Id. at 33
    . It noted that the
    caller confirmed his phone number and that the police
    knew the caller could be tracked down if he provided
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    false information. 
    Id. at 31
    . In holding that the facts taken
    together were more than sufficient for the police to give
    some credence to the 911 call, the court emphasized that
    the call referenced an ongoing emergency. 
    Id.
     at 31 n.2.
    “[R]eports about ongoing emergencies, by virtue of their
    very nature, necessitate quick action.” 
    Id.
    Accordingly, the police had the right to detain the
    occupants of the car long enough to ascertain whether the
    situation described by the callers was still an
    ongoing threat to either of the individuals involved in
    the altercation or to the public.
    C.
    The information obtained by the police after their
    arrival at the scene, when combined with the informa-
    tion already known to them prior to their arrival,
    certainly gave the officers the requisite authority to
    search the cabin of Mr. Whitaker’s car to ascertain
    whether it contained a weapon. The officers’ conversation
    with Mr. Whitaker and his companion, together with
    their independent observations, made it clear that the
    two occupants of the car were engaged in an altercation.
    Marsh admitted that she had been arguing with
    Mr. Whitaker; the officer observed that her shirt was
    stained with her tears and she was crying. Although
    Marsh denied that Mr. Whitaker had a weapon, she
    would not voluntarily move away from the car door
    when Officer Joswiak announced that he was going to
    search the car. All of these factors, when assessed in
    their totality, certainly constituted a sufficient basis to
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    justify the officers’ inspection of the cabin for a weapon. See
    United States v. Arnold, 
    388 F.3d 237
    , 239 (7th Cir. 2004). To
    leave the scene at that point without having performed
    such an inspection could have jeopardized their own
    safety, as well as that of those in the surrounding area,
    including Marsh’s children in the van parked immediately
    next to Mr. Whitaker’s car.1 3 The Fourth Amendment does
    not require such an unrealistic response to the situation
    before us.
    Conclusion
    The officers had the requisite reasonable suspicion to
    justify their search of the passenger compartment of Mr.
    Whitaker’s car. Therefore, the firearm found there was
    admissible, and the district court correctly denied the
    motion to suppress. Accordingly, the judgment of the
    district court is affirmed.
    A FFIRMED
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    In Officer Joswiak’s testimony, he describes what drew his
    attention as he was entering the parking lot. He states: “As
    I recall, the one vehicle parked next to the silver vehicle with
    a van had the door open with some kids in and I mean there’s
    the van with the kids, the silver car.” R. 23 at 39. It is
    unclear when Officer Bedford noticed the children.
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