Krysta Sutterfield v. City of Milwaukee , 751 F.3d 542 ( 2014 )


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  •                                In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    No. 12-2272
    KRYSTA SUTTERFIELD,
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    v.
    CITY OF MILWAUKEE, et al.,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Eastern District of Wisconsin.
    No. 11-C-0486 — J. P. Stadtmueller, Judge.
    ARGUED OCTOBER 25, 2012 — DECIDED MAY 9, 2014
    Before FLAUM, MANION, and ROVNER, Circuit Judges.
    ROVNER, Circuit Judge. Krysta Sutterfield sued the City of
    Milwaukee and several of its police officers after the officers
    forcibly entered her home to effectuate an emergency detention
    for purposes of a mental health evaluation, opened a locked
    container, and seized for safekeeping the gun and concealed-
    carry licenses they found inside. She contends that officers
    violated her rights under the Second, Fourth, and Fourteenth
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    Amendments in doing so. We conclude that the warrantless
    entry into Sutterfield’s home was justified under the exigent
    circumstances exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant
    requirement, as the defendant officers had a reasonable basis
    to believe that Sutterfield posed an imminent danger of harm
    to herself. We shall assume, as the district court did, that the
    search of a closed container for a gun, and the ensuing seizure
    of that gun, violated Sutterfield’s Fourth Amendment rights.
    But we agree with the district court that even if the officers did
    exceed constitutional boundaries, they are protected by
    qualified immunity. See Sutterfield v. City of Milwaukee, 
    870 F. Supp. 2d 633
     (E.D. Wis. 2012). We therefore affirm the
    district court’s decision to grant summary judgment in favor of
    the defendants.
    I.
    At around noon on March 22, 2011, Dr. Michelle Bentle, a
    psychiatrist at Columbia/St. Mary’s Hospital in Milwaukee,
    placed a 911 call to report that Sutterfield had just left an
    outpatient appointment in her office after expressing suicidal
    thoughts.1 Milwaukee police officers Clifton Stephens and
    Timothy Powers were tasked to respond to the report. They
    contacted Dr. Bentle, who advised them that Sutterfield, after
    indicating that she had received some bad news, had re-
    marked, “I guess I’ll go home and blow my brains out.” Dr.
    Bentle indicated she was concerned for Sutterfield’s safety and
    that police intervention was warranted. She also informed the
    1
    Sutterfield disputes the accuracy of the report, but accepts that this is
    what the defendant officers were told.
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    officers that Sutterfield had worn an empty gun holster to her
    appointment, from which she had surmised that Sutterfield
    owned a gun.
    Over the next few hours, Stephens and Powers were unable
    to locate Sutterfield. They visited her home, knocked on the
    front door, but received no response. A neighbor advised them
    that Sutterfield had left her home that morning in her car and
    had not returned. The officers checked her garage and the
    street in front of Sutterfield’s residence but did not see the type
    of car that her neighbor had described.
    At 2:45 p.m., Dr. Bentle telephoned the officers to advise
    them that Sutterfield had called her some minutes earlier
    stating that she was not in need of assistance and that the
    doctor should “call off” the police search for her. According to
    the officers, Dr. Bentle did not indicate that Sutterfield no
    longer posed a danger to herself.
    With the end of their shift approaching, Stephens and
    Powers prepared a Statement of Emergency Detention by Law
    Enforcement Officer (“statement of detention”) pursuant to
    Wisconsin Statutes section 51.15. In relevant part, section 51.15
    provides that a law enforcement officer may take a person into
    custody when he has cause to believe that the person is
    mentally ill and evidences “[a] substantial probability of
    physical harm to himself or herself as manifested by evidence
    of recent threats of or attempts at suicide or serious bodily
    harm.” § 51.15(1)(a)(1). The statute specifies a set of procedures
    that must be followed in effectuating such a detention. In
    Milwaukee County, the law enforcement officer must sign a
    statement of detention which, inter alia, “shall provide detailed
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    specific information concerning the recent overt act, attempt,
    or threat to act or omission on which the belief under sub[sec-
    tio]n (1) [here, that the person poses a danger to himself] is
    based and the names of the persons observing or reporting the
    recent overt act, attempt, or threat to act or omission.”
    § 51.15(4)(a). Signing such a statement knowing the informa-
    tion contained therein to be false is deemed a felony offense.
    § 51.15(12). Upon presenting the individual—along with the
    statement of detention— to an appropriate treatment facility,
    the treatment director of that facility (or his designee) must
    determine within 24 hours whether the individual should be
    detained for a period of up to 72 hours. § 51.15(4)(b). If the
    facility determines that the person does not meet the criteria set
    forth in section 51.20(1)(a) of the Wisconsin Statutes to detain
    an individual for purposes of an in-patient mental health
    evaluation (the first step in the involuntary commitment
    process),2 the person must be released immediately. Id. If the
    facility director decides to detain the individual, the director
    may supplement in writing the statement of detention pre-
    pared by the law enforcement officer and include other
    pertinent information indicating that the individual meets the
    criteria for commitment; the director also must designate
    whether the individual is, inter alia, mentally ill. Id. The director
    must promptly file the original statement, including any
    2
    In relevant part, section 52.20(1)(a) requires that a petition seeking such
    an evaluation allege that the person is mentally ill, drug dependent, or
    developmentally disabled, and that there is a substantial probability that he
    may harm himself, as evidenced by recent threats of or attempts at suicide
    or serious bodily harm.
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    supplement, along with a notice of detention, with the local
    probate court. Id.
    The statement of detention prepared by Stephens and
    Powers documented the pertinent information that Dr. Bentle
    had shared with them about Sutterfield and noted their
    inability to locate her. Both officers signed the statement. At
    4:00 p.m., Stephens and Powers went off duty.
    Officer Jamie Hewitt of the Sensitive Crimes Division
    subsequently was assigned to locate Sutterfield. After spending
    several hours reviewing the paperwork, tracking down
    information regarding Sutterfield’s automobile and having that
    information issued to Milwaukee patrol officers, and checking
    with local hospitals to see whether Sutterfield had been
    admitted, Hewitt and several other officers returned to Sutter-
    field’s residence. Hewitt’s intent was to execute the statement
    of detention if and when she located Sutterfield.
    Arriving on Sutterfield’s doorstep at approximately 8:30
    p.m., Hewitt and the other officers found her at home. Sutter-
    field answered Hewitt’s knock at the front door but would not
    engage with her, except to state repeatedly that she had “called
    off” the police and to keep shutting the door on Hewitt.
    Sutterfield would not admit Hewitt to the residence, and
    during the exchange kept the outer storm door closed and
    locked. Unable to gain admittance to the house, Hewitt
    concluded that the police would have to enter it forcibly.
    Consistent with police department procedure, Hewitt re-
    quested that a supervisory officer be dispatched to the house.
    Sergeant Aaron Berken arrived at approximately 9:00 p.m.
    After Hewitt brought him up to speed on the situation, Berken
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    knocked at the front door and identified himself as a police
    officer. As she had with Hewitt, Sutterfield opened the inner
    door of the house but not the locked storm door; she refused
    to admit Berken or any other officer into the residence.
    Sutterfield called 911 in an effort to have the officers leave; as
    a result of that call, the ensuing events were recorded by the
    emergency call center. Sutterfield can be heard on the record-
    ing telling the officers that she was fine and that she did not
    want anyone to enter her residence.
    After informing Sutterfield of his intention to open the
    storm door forcibly if she did not unlock it herself, Berken
    yanked the door open and entered the house with the other
    officers to take custody of Sutterfield pursuant to the statement
    of detention. A brief struggle ensued. Sutterfield can be heard
    on the 911 recording demanding both that the officers let go of
    her and that they leave her home. (Sutterfield would later say
    that the officers tackled her.) Sutterfield was handcuffed and
    placed in the officers’ custody.
    At that point the officers conducted a protective sweep of
    the home. In the kitchen, officer James Floriani observed a
    compact disc carrying case in plain view.3 He picked up the
    soft-sided case, which was locked, and surmised from the feel
    and weight of its contents that there might be a firearm inside.
    He then forced the case open and discovered a semi-automatic
    3
    Sutterfield avers that the case was not actually in plain view but instead
    was within an opaque bag. The district court determined that she had not
    preserved a dispute of fact on this point in responding to the defendants’
    statement of material facts below. 870 F. Supp. 2d at 636 n.1. Sutterfield
    concedes the point for purposes of this appeal.
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    handgun inside; a yellow smiley-face sticker was affixed to the
    barrel of the gun, covering the muzzle. Also inside the case
    were concealed-carry firearm licenses from multiple jurisdic-
    tions other than Wisconsin. Elsewhere in the kitchen the
    officers discovered a BB gun made to realistically resemble a
    Glock 29 handgun.
    The contents of the case were seized along with the BB gun
    and placed into police inventory for safekeeping. Berken
    would later state that he authorized the seizure of the handgun
    in order to keep them out of the hands of a juvenile, should a
    juvenile enter the house unaccompanied by an adult while
    Sutterfield remained in the hospital. (The police knew that
    Sutterfield had a son, whom they believed to be a juvenile,
    although his specific age was unknown.) Floriani would later
    testify that he believed it appropriate to take both the handgun
    and BB gun into custody so that Sutterfield, when released
    from the hospital, would not be able to use the handgun to
    commit suicide or the BB gun to provoke a police officer to
    shoot her.
    Floriani and another officer subsequently transported
    Sutterfield to the Milwaukee County Mental Health Complex,
    a psychiatric hospital which, among other things, provides
    short-term in-patient and crisis management care for persons
    in mental distress. What occurred there is not part of the record
    and, in any event, is not relevant to the claims made in this
    litigation.
    Sutterfield filed suit pursuant to 
    42 U.S.C. § 1983
     against the
    city and the individual officers involved in the incident,
    challenging the warrantless entry into her home, the seizure of
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    her person, the search of the case containing the gun, and the
    seizure of the gun itself along with the concealed-carry
    licenses. She contends that these acts violated her rights under
    the Fourth Amendment (as made applicable to the States
    through the Fourteenth Amendment), and that the seizure of
    the revolver additionally violated her rights under the Second
    Amendment.
    The district court granted summary judgment to the
    officers on these claims in a thoughtful opinion. 
    870 F. Supp. 2d 633
    . Believing that Sutterfield was not contesting the seizure of
    her person, see 
    id. at 643
    , the court focused its attention on the
    warrantless entry into her home, the search of the locked case,
    and the ensuing seizure of Sutterfield’s handgun. 
    Id. at 637
    .
    The court treated the entry into Sutterfield’s home as
    presumptively invalid, as the police had no warrant. 
    Id.
     at 637-
    38. It proceeded to consider whether the entry was nonetheless
    justified under either the community caretaking or exigent
    circumstances exceptions to the Fourth Amendment warrant
    requirement.
    The court determined that the community caretaker
    exception, on which the defendants primarily relied, did not
    justify the entry. 
    Id. at 640
    . The court reasoned that although
    the Wisconsin courts had deemed that exception applicable in
    a “broad swath of situations,” 
    id.,
     the Seventh Circuit had not
    done so. Indeed, in United States v. Pichany, 
    687 F.2d 204
    , 208-09
    (7th Cir. 1982), we had expressly rejected the government’s
    effort to apply the exception beyond the automobile context.
    870 F. Supp. 2d at 640.
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    The court thought that the exigent circumstances exception
    might justify the warrantless entry into Sutterfield’s home,
    although it ultimately abstained from a decision on that point.
    The court noted at the outset that this exception required the
    authorities to make “a fairly strong showing that the surround-
    ing circumstances were so severe as to justify a departure from
    the warrant requirement.” Id. at 638 (citing United States v.
    Patino, 
    830 F.2d 1413
    , 1415 (7th Cir. 1987)). In Patino, this court
    had cited a 30-minute wait for backup before effectuating a
    warrantless entry into a residence as evidence that there was
    no exigency, as the waiting officers could have sought a search
    and/or arrest warrant during that time period. 
    Id. at 1415-16
    . In
    this case, more than nine hours had transpired after the police
    were first notified of the suicide threat before the officers
    entered Sutterfield’s home. 870 F. Supp. 2d at 638. On the other
    hand, they were also executing a section 51.15 statement
    authorizing Sutterfield’s detention for a mental health evalua-
    tion, and the court understood that statement to function as a
    quasi-arrest warrant. Id. at 639. Even if a statement of detention
    cannot fulfill the role of a warrant given the lack of judicial
    involvement, the court reasoned, the officers could have
    thought that the statement authorized them to take such
    actions as were necessary to detain Sutterfield, including
    entering her home. Id. Moreover, the officers were acting to
    protect life or to forestall serious injury, an interest that the
    court recognized can justify police action which would
    otherwise be illegal absent an exigency or emergency. Id.
    (citing Brigham City, Utah v. Stuart, 
    547 U.S. 398
    , 403, 
    126 S. Ct. 1943
    , 1947 (2006)). The district court ultimately concluded that
    it was unnecessary to decide whether the warrantless entry
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    into Sutterfield’s home was constitutionally permissible, given
    its subsequent conclusion that the officers were entitled to
    qualified immunity on the unlawful entry claim. Id. at 639-40.
    Turning to the search of Sutterfield’s home, the court
    reasoned that a cursory sweep of the premises, which brought
    the compact disc case to the officers’ attention, was legally
    permissible notwithstanding the lack of a search warrant. The
    court relied on Maryland v. Buie, 
    494 U.S. 325
    , 
    110 S. Ct. 1093
    (1990), which authorizes officers making an in-home arrest to
    conduct a protective sweep of the premises to determine
    whether other persons are present. Here, the officers were
    present in Sutterfield’s home as the result of her doctor’s 911
    call. Sutterfield had not answered the officers when she was
    asked whether anyone else was present in the home. (The
    inquiry, and Sutterfield’s lack of response, can be heard on the
    911 recording of the encounter.) Moreover, as a result of the
    information provided by her physician, the officers believed
    that she had a gun. And the overall encounter was, in the
    court’s word, “tense.” 870 F. Supp. 2d at 640. Under these
    circumstances, the court deemed it appropriate for the officers
    to make a cursory inspection of the premises to determine if
    someone else might be present. Id. at 640-41. That permissible
    search led to the discovery of the compact disc case in the
    kitchen, which was in plain sight. Id. at 641.
    The search of that case, and the ensuing seizure of the gun
    inside, was “[o]f much greater concern” to the court. Id. The
    limited search authorized by Buie did not extend to the
    contents of a locked case. Although Floriani indicated that
    when he picked up the case, it felt as if it might contain a gun,
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    the court pointed out that the case could have held “practically
    anything.” Id. As the search of the case was unauthorized, the
    court acknowledged that both the opening of the case and the
    seizure of the gun found inside likely constituted violations of
    Sutterfield’s Fourth Amendment rights. Id.
    The court rejected Sutterfield’s contention that the seizure
    of the gun and concealed-carry licenses also constituted a
    violation of her Second Amendment rights on the facts of this
    case. In the court’s view, neither McDonald v. City of Chicago,
    
    130 S. Ct. 3020
     (2010), nor Dist. of Columbia v. Heller, 
    554 U.S. 570
    , 
    128 S. Ct. 2783
     (2008), forecloses the possibility that an
    individual’s firearm may be seized by the police for certain
    purposes. 870 F. Supp. 2d at 642. Otherwise, the court rea-
    soned, any seizure of a gun by the authorities—if taken as
    evidence, for example—might constitute a Second Amendment
    violation. Id.
    Although the court had found it “likely” that Sutterfield’s
    Fourth Amendment rights had been violated, the court
    discerned no basis to hold Milwaukee liable for the violation.
    Id. at 642-43. Sutterfield had identified no municipal policy,
    custom, or practice as necessary to support a claim against the
    city under Monell v. Dep’t of Soc. Servs. of N.Y., 
    436 U.S. 658
    , 
    98 S. Ct. 2018
     (1978). The court theorized that Sutterfield perhaps
    could argue that it was an unconstitutional practice for the city
    to follow section 51.15 by requiring that the subject of a section
    51.15 statement be taken into custody no matter the circum-
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    stances,4 but Sutterfield had not made such an argument. 870
    F. Supp. 2d at 643. Consequently, only the individual officers
    had any prospective liability. (Sutterfield has not challenged
    this aspect of the district court’s decision.)
    The court concluded that the officers, assuming they had
    violated Sutterfield’s Fourth Amendment rights, were entitled
    to qualified immunity. Id. at 643-44. The only aspect of the
    encounter over which they may have lacked discretion was the
    decision to detain Sutterfield, which the court believed she had
    not contested. Id. at 643. The court noted that the circumstances
    of the encounter, if they did not qualify as exigent, were nearly
    so; and the boundaries separating exigent from non-exigent
    circumstances were not so clear as to have placed the officers
    on notice that their conduct exceeded the bounds of the exigent
    circumstances exception. Id. at 644. At the same time, given the
    breadth that the Wisconsin courts had attributed to the
    community caretaker exception, the officers could have
    thought that this exception allowed them to enter Sutterfield’s
    home, to perform a warrantless search of the premises,
    including the compact disc case, and to seize the gun they
    found inside of that case. Id.
    While the Seventh Circuit has refused to read the
    Community Care[taker] exemption nearly as expan-
    sively as Wisconsin, and would thus seem to bind this
    4
    Both Hewitt and Berken indicated in their depositions that they
    understood department policy to essentially require them to execute the
    51.15 statement by taking Sutterfield into custody regardless of what
    transpired at her home, suggesting that the decision to seize her person was
    not a discretionary call on their part.
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    Court to find that such an exemption clearly does not
    apply, the Court cannot expect that police officers are
    schooled in the nuances of the law as it differs by
    jurisdiction. The police must be able to act decisively to
    prevent injury to citizens, especially when they are
    acting upon information from a third party whom it
    seems reasonable to believe is telling the truth, such as
    Dr. Bentle in this case. By entering Ms. Sutterfield’s
    home, searching it, and seizing the items that they
    believed to pose a danger to both Ms. Sutterfield and
    members of the community who may (though it was
    unlikely) happen upon those items, the officers acted in
    that decisive, though discretionary way; and, under the
    laws of Wisconsin, doing so was not clearly unlawful.
    Id. (internal quotation marks and citations omitted).
    II.
    Sutterfield challenges each aspect of the district court’s
    summary judgment decision, save for the court’s determina-
    tion that the record lacked evidence sufficient to hold Milwau-
    kee liable under Monell for any of the constitutional violations
    asserted in this case. So only the liability of the individual
    oficers is at issue. Sutterfield contends, in sum, that the police
    officers’ warrantless entry into her home, the seizure of her
    person, the search of the locked compact disc case, and the
    seizure of the revolver and the concealed carry licenses
    discovered therein all violated her rights under the Fourth and
    Fourteenth Amendments, and that the seizure of the gun and
    licenses also violated her rights under the Second Amendment.
    She further contends that because these rights were clearly
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    established (in her view), the officers do not enjoy qualified
    immunity from suit. Before we turn to the merits of Sutter-
    field’s claims, we feel compelled to say a few words about the
    importance of the competing interests at stake in this case.
    The intrusions upon Sutterfield’s privacy were profound.
    At the core of the privacy protected by the Fourth Amendment
    is the right to be let alone in one’s home. See, e.g., Kyllo v. United
    States, 
    533 U.S. 27
    , 31, 
    121 S. Ct. 2038
    , 2041-42 (2001) (citing
    Silverman v. United States , 
    365 U.S. 505
    , 511, 
    81 S. Ct. 679
    , 683
    (1961)); Payton v. N.Y., 
    445 U.S. 573
    , 589-90, 
    100 S. Ct. 1371
    ,
    1381-82 (1980). In this case, police entered Sutterfield’s home
    forcibly and without a warrant, against her express wishes.
    Once inside of her home, they seized her person, again
    employing force because she resisted. They then searched the
    premises of the house, discovered the locked compact disc
    case, broke it open, and seized her gun and concealed carry
    licenses, all without a search warrant. Finally, pursuant to
    section 51.15, they took Sutterfield to the Milwaukee Mental
    Health Complex for an (involuntary) evaluation. Although the
    officers took each of these actions for benevolent reasons, from
    Sutterfield’s perspective—and from the perspective of anyone
    in a similar situation who did not wish assistance—these were
    serious intrusions upon the sanctity of her home and her
    person.
    On the other hand, courts from the United States Supreme
    Court on down have long recognized the important role that
    police play in safeguarding individuals from dangers posed to
    themselves and others—a role that will, in appropriate
    circumstances, permit searches and seizures made without the
    judicial sanction of a warrant. See, e.g., Brigham City, Utah v.
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    Stuart, 
    supra,
     
    547 U.S. at 403-04
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1947
     (collecting
    cases); Mincey v. Ariz., 
    437 U.S. 385
    , 392 & nn.6-7, 
    98 S. Ct. 2408
    ,
    2413 & nn.6-7 (1978) (same). Here, the Milwaukee police had
    been contacted by Sutterfield’s physician with a concern that
    Sutterfield might harm herself. Wisconsin law sets forth an
    emergency detention procedure to deal with precisely this sort
    of situation. Pursuant to section 51.15, a statement authorizing
    Sutterfield’s emergency detention was prepared, and police
    executed that statement when they entered Sutterfield’s home
    and took her into their custody. They looked for, discovered,
    and seized her firearm out of concern for Sutterfield’s safety
    and that of any minor who might enter her home in her
    absence. There is no suggestion that they acted for any reason
    other than to protect Sutterfield from harm.
    This case therefore requires us to balance Sutterfield’s
    privacy interests, as protected by the Fourth Amendment,
    against a community interest—and frankly Sutterfield’s own
    interest—in protecting her from harm, including self-inflicted
    harm. Aside from the importance of these competing interests,
    several circumstances make our job more difficult. First, the
    parties have given us virtually no information as to the
    alternatives other than emergency detention pursuant to
    section 51.15 that were available to the Milwaukee police in
    this situation. Sutterfield, for example, frequently speaks about
    the lack of a warrant but has not addressed what type of
    warrant, if any, would have been appropriate and available in
    the circumstances confronting the police. Her briefs seem to
    view the case through the lens of criminal law enforcement
    when the case plainly does not fit that model. Moreover, as we
    shall discuss, there also persists a lack of clarity in Fourth
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    Amendment case law as to the appropriate legal framework
    that should be applied to warrantless intrusions motivated by
    purposes other than law enforcement and evidence-gathering.
    It will no doubt be frustrating to Sutterfield and to the
    reader that we do not reach firm conclusions as to the merits of
    all of the claims she has asserted and instead, like the district
    court, resolve the case in part based on the doctrine of qualified
    immunity. We recognize the significant role that resolving the
    merits of each claim plays in the development of precedent and
    clarifying the boundaries of constitutional rights. See Pearson v.
    Callahan, 
    555 U.S. 223
    , 236, 
    129 S. Ct. 808
    , 818 (2009). But given
    the importance of the interests at stake, the lack of clarity in the
    case law, and the shallowness of the briefing as to the alterna-
    tives available to the police on the facts presented here, we
    believe that the tentative nature of some of our analysis is
    appropriate.
    We now turn to the merits of Sutterfield’s claims.
    A. Detention of Sutterfield
    Our discussion of the first claim may be brief. Although
    Sutterfield insists that, contrary to the district court’s belief, she
    has challenged the defendants’ seizure of her person as being
    contrary to the Fourth Amendment, she has not adequately
    developed any such argument. She does not contest that her
    physician reported that she had threatened to do herself harm.
    Further, there is no dispute that, in light of the doctor’s report,
    there was a valid basis to pursue an emergency detention of
    Sutterfield under section 51.15, that the police complied with
    the requirements of that statute, or that the statute (and the
    statement completed by officers Stephens and Powers)
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    authorized the seizure of Sutterfield. Sutterfield suggests that
    the statute is unconstitutional to the extent that it permits the
    seizure of a person without the authorization of a judicial
    officer. But she fails to support her contention with any citation
    of authority or legal analysis.
    We note that Sutterfield’s position presumes that prior
    judicial approval is required when a person is detained not
    because she is suspected of a crime but rather because she is
    believed to pose a danger to herself. In that respect, she makes
    no distinction between the law enforcement and community
    caretaking functions of the police. Her argument, moreover,
    calls into question the constitutionality not only of Wisconsin’s
    section 51.15, but a host of comparable provisions found in
    other state codes. Many if not most states have provisions
    authorizing the emergency detention of individuals based on
    information indicating that they pose a danger to themselves
    or others. See Treatment Advocacy Center, Emergency Hospital-
    ization for Evaluation—Assisted Psychiatric Treatment Standards
    by State (June 2011), available at http://treatmentadvocacy
    center.org/storage/documents/Emergency_Hospitalization_
    for_Evaluation.pdf (last visited May 9, 2014). Although the
    specifics of such statutes vary, they commonly do not require
    prior judicial approval of the emergency detention. See, e.g.,
    405 Ill. Comp. Stat. 5/3-601 - 5/3-603 (authorizing involuntary
    admission of person to mental health facility when adult
    presents petition to facility indicating admission is necessary to
    protect self or others from harm, detailing signs or symptoms
    of mental illness, and describing relevant acts, threats, behav-
    ior, and so forth; petition must be accompanied by statement
    of qualified expert and if none immediately available, person
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    may be detained for purposes of examination by such expert);
    Indiana Code § 12-26-5-1 (authorizing detention of person for
    no more than 72 hours on written application of individual
    setting forth belief admitted person is mentally ill or dangerous
    and in need of immediate restraint, together with statement of
    at least one physician indicating person may be mentally ill or
    dangerous).
    Our point is not to suggest that the sort of emergency
    detention authorized by section 51.15 and similar statutes in
    other states necessarily is constitutional. Our point, instead, is
    that given the ubiquity of such statutes, and the legitimacy of
    the interests in both personal and public safety underlying
    such statutes, a contention that an emergency detention is per
    se unconstitutional without prior judicial authorization
    demands much more than a conclusory argument to that effect.
    Sutterfield has waived any claim that her detention was
    unlawful absent the prior approval of a judge. See, e.g., Fluker
    v. Cnty. of Kankakee, 
    741 F.3d 787
    , 795 (7th Cir. 2013) (perfunc-
    tory and undeveloped arguments waived). See also In re
    Commitment of Louise M., 
    555 N.W.2d 807
    , 810 (Wis. 1996)
    (finding that procedures for involuntary detention set forth in
    section 51.15 satisfy the requirements of due process).
    B. Entry into Sutterfield’s Home
    The district court, as noted, found that the warrantless
    entry into Sutterfield’s home might be justified on the basis of
    the exigent circumstances doctrine. Sutterfield focuses the bulk
    of her argument on this possibility, contending that in view of
    the passage of nine hours between her physician’s initial phone
    call to the police and the point at which police sought entry
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    into her home, the circumstances cannot be desribed as exigent,
    as there was ample opportunity for the police to obtain a
    warrant. She adds that her own conduct in refusing to open the
    door to her home and admit the police cannot be said to have
    created an exigency where none otherwise existed.
    There are three doctrines or exceptions to the warrant
    requirement that have been raised at one point or another in
    this case as possible justifications for the warrantless entry into
    Sutterfield’s home: the community caretaking doctrine, the
    emergency aid doctrine, and the exigent circumstances
    doctrine. For the reasons that follow, we believe that the entry
    into Sutterfield’s home was justified by the emergency aid
    doctrine, which the Supreme Court has deemed a subset of the
    exigent circumstances doctrine. But as there is some degree of
    overlap between the doctrines, the distinctions between them
    are not always clear, and all three doctrines are, to some
    degree, implicated in this case, we begin with a short discus-
    sion of each.5
    5
    Scholars have frequently remarked on the lack of clarity in judicial
    articulation and application of the three doctrines. See, e.g., Megan Pauline
    Marinos, Comment, Breaking and Entering or Community Caretaking? A
    Solution to the Overbroad Expansion of the Inventory Search, 22 GEO. MASON U.
    CIVIL RIGHTS L. J. 249, 261 (2012) (“Over the years, state and federal courts
    have muddled the distinction between the emergency aid exception to the
    warrant requirement and the community caretaking exception to the
    probable cause and warrant requirements.”); Michael R. Dimino, Sr., Police
    Paternalism: Community Caretaking, Assistance Searches, and Fourth Amend-
    ment Reasonableness, 66 WASH. & LEE L. REV. 1485, 1494 (2009) (“The
    vagueness surrounding the definition of the community-caretaking
    category and the different standards governing the constitutionality of
    (continued...)
    20                                                            No. 12-2272
    The community caretaking doctrine recognizes that police
    sometimes take actions not for any criminal law enforcement
    purpose but rather to protect members of the public; searches
    (including home entries) conducted for the latter purpose are
    deemed exempt from the Fourth Amendment warrant require-
    ment. The doctrine was first recognized by the United States
    Supreme Court in Cady v. Dombrowski, 
    413 U.S. 433
    , 
    93 S. Ct. 2523
     (1973), which sustained the warrantless search of an
    automobile in police custody that was conducted as a matter of
    routine for a purpose “totally divorced from the detection,
    investigation, or acquisition of evidence relating to the viola-
    tion of a criminal statute,” 
    id. at 441
    , 
    93 S. Ct. at 2528
    . As we
    shall see, state and federal courts have divided over the scope
    of the community caretaking doctrine recognized in Cady. This
    court, taking the narrow view, has confined the doctrine to
    automobile searches. United State v. Pichany, 
    supra,
     
    687 F.2d at 207-09
    . Pichany rules out the community caretaker doctrine as
    a basis which might justify the warrantless entry into
    5
    (...continued)
    different types of community-caretaking searches indicate that more
    precision is needed. There is not a single community-caretaking doctrine.
    Rather, there are several different community-caretaking doctrines, but
    courts have not clarified the constitutional interests affected by those
    different kinds of searches.”); Deborah Tuerkheimer, Exigency, 49 ARIZ. L.
    REV. 801, 812 n. 60 (2007) (“the state of the case law in this area is remark-
    ably confused”); Mary Elizabeth Naumann, Note, The Community Caretaker
    Doctrine: Yet Another Fourth Amendment Exception, 26 AM. J. CRIM. L. 325, 365
    (1999) (“A review of both federal and state case law reveals a lack of
    consistency in the definition and boundaries of the community caretaker
    doctrine that control the judgment exercised by the officers in these
    situations.”).
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    Sutterfield’s home, as the district court recognized. But because
    the Wisconsin courts—which, like the court, possess the
    authority and indeed the obligation to interpret and apply the
    Fourth Amendment, see Burgess v. Lowery, 
    201 F.3d 942
    , 945-46
    (7th Cir. 2000)—have accorded a much broader sweep to the
    community caretaker doctrine, and this would have given the
    defendants reason to believe that the entry was justified, a
    more detailed discussion of Cady and its progeny is called for.
    In Cady, Wisconsin police officers searched the trunk of a
    rented automobile that had been disabled in a one-car accident.
    The obviously intoxicated driver of the car, Dombrowski, had
    informed the officers that he was a Chicago policeman.
    Believing that Chicago police officers were required to carry
    their service revolvers with them at all times, the Wisconsin
    police looked for a gun on Dombrowski’s person and in the
    glove compartment and front seat of the car, but they did not
    find one. The car was towed to a local (private) garage and
    Dombrowski was taken into custody for drunken driving.
    Later that night, an officer visited the garage to search the car
    again for Dombrowski’s revolver; the search was described as
    a matter of routine practice within the local police department.
    When the officer opened the locked trunk of the car, he
    discovered clothing and other items with blood on them. When
    Dombrowski was confronted with those items, he directed
    police to a body on his brother’s farm. Dombrowski was
    ultimately charged with murder, and the items discovered in
    the trunk of the car were admitted at trial as evidence.
    Dombrowski was convicted. On habeas review, this court
    agreed with Dombrowski that the search of the car trunk
    violated his Fourth Amendment rights, as there was no
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    exigency that might have justified a warrantless search.
    Dombrowski v. Cady, 
    471 F.2d 280
    , 283-84 (7th Cir. 1972) (2-1
    decision). The Supreme Court reversed.
    The Court in Cady sustained the search of car trunk as a
    legitimate exercise of the police force’s community caretaking
    function. After first noting that the touchstone of the Fourth
    Amendment is “reasonableness,” id. at 439, 
    93 S. Ct. at 2527
    ,
    the Court pointed out that it had long distinguished automo-
    bile searches from searches of the home, both because cars are
    inherently mobile, lending greater justification to warrantless
    searches, and because the highly-regulated status of motor
    vehicles brings the police into frequent contact with automo-
    biles—and any contents, including contraband, which are in
    plain view—for reasons unrelated to the investigation of crime.
    
    Id. at 440-42
    , 
    93 S. Ct. at 2527-28
    . In this case, the police had
    been compelled to assume custody of Dombrowski’s rental car
    because Dombrowski himself was unable to drive and because
    the wrecked vehicle otherwise presented a nuisance upon the
    roadway. 
    Id. at 442-43
    , 
    93 S. Ct. at 2529
    . After they took
    custody of the car, police had followed what the lower courts
    had determined to be standard operating procedure in
    searching the car for Dombrowski’s service revolver. That
    search was conducted not for evidence-gathering purposes but
    rather for safety reasons: the car had been towed to a garage lot
    which was not secured, leaving any gun inside accessible to
    vandals. 
    Id. at 443, 448
    , 
    93 S. Ct. at 2529, 2531
    . Thus, the search,
    although unsupported by a warrant, constituted a legitimate
    exercise of the police force’s community caretaking function.
    
    Id. at 447-48
    , 
    93 S. Ct. at 2531
    .
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    Cady’s holding has since evolved into a rule authorizing a
    routine, warrantless inventory search of an automobile
    lawfully impounded by the police. In South Dakota v. Opperman,
    
    428 U.S. 364
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 3092
     (1976), for example, the Court
    sustained the search of a car which had been impounded by
    police after it was left parked illegally in a restricted zone; the
    search had unearthed marijuana in the vehicle’s glove com-
    partment. After reiterating Cady’s rationale and adding that the
    individual has a lesser expectation of privacy in the automobile
    than in the home, 
    id. at 367-69
    , 
    96 S. Ct. at 3096
    , the Court
    noted that a routine inventory search of an impounded vehicle
    serves multiple needs: protection of the owner’s property,
    protection of the police against allegations of lost or stolen
    property, and protection of the police from potential danger,
    
    id. at 369
    , 
    96 S. Ct. at 3097
    . The search, conducted for legitimate
    caretaking reasons and not as a pretext for evidence-gathering,
    therefore met the Fourth Amendment’s reasonableness
    standard. 
    Id. at 375-76
    , 
    96 S. Ct. at 3100
    ; see also, e.g., United
    States v. Jackson, 
    189 F.3d 502
    , 508-09 (7th Cir. 1999). Opperman,
    as it turned out, marked the last time that the Supreme Court
    relied to any meaningful degree on the community caretaking
    function of the police in evaluating the reasonableness of
    searching automobiles and other items impounded by the
    police; subsequent cases have rested on Opperman’s description
    of the search as a routine “inventory” search. See, e.g., Colorado
    v. Bertine, 
    479 U.S. 367
    , 371, 
    107 S. Ct. 738
    , 741 (1987) (“inven-
    tory searches are now a well-defined exception to the warrant
    requirement of the Fourth Amendment”); see also Marinos,
    supra n.5, 22 GEO. MASON U. CIVIL RTS. L. J. at 251 n.11, 259.
    24                                                  No. 12-2272
    This court, as we have mentioned, has limited the commu-
    nity caretaker doctrine to automobile searches. Pichany, 
    687 F.2d at 207-09
    . Our decision in Pichany addressed the warrant-
    less search of a commercial warehouse. Police officers had
    arrived early for a meeting at an industrial park with a
    business owner who had reported a burglary of his warehouse.
    While looking for the owner, the officers wandered into the
    defendant’s nearby warehouse, which was both unlocked and
    unmarked—but which was not the warehouse reported
    burglarized. There they discovered several stolen tractors,
    which resulted in the defendant being charged with theft. After
    the district court suppressed the evidence discovered in the
    warehouse, the government appealed, seeking to justify the
    warrantless entry into the defendant’s warehouse on the basis
    of the community caretaker doctrine. The government argued
    that when the officers entered the defendant’s warehouse, they
    were not investigating the defendant’s possible involvement in
    a crime but simply looking for the individual who had re-
    ported a burglary. We rejected the invitation to extend Cady’s
    community caretaking rationale beyond the automobile
    context. “None of the factors which the Court found character-
    ized the community caretaking function are present here.” 
    687 F.2d at 207
    . We pointed out that, in contrast to the situation in
    Cady, the police had not exercised control or dominion over the
    defendant’s warehouse, nor was there any threat of damage or
    theft that might have triggered a duty on the part of the
    officers to secure his warehouse. 
    Id. at 207-08
    . More fundamen-
    tally, the Court in Cady, by stressing the circumstances that
    differentiated cars from houses and other things that might be
    searched, had indicated that its holding “extended only to
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    automobiles temporarily in police custody.” 
    id. at 208
    . “Conse-
    quently, the plain import from the language of the Cady
    decision is that the Supreme Court did not intend to create a
    broad exception to the Fourth Amendment warrant require-
    ment to apply whenever the police are acting in an ‘investiga-
    tive,’ [i.e., community caretaking] rather than a ‘criminal’
    function.” 
    Id. at 208-09
     (quoting Cady, 
    413 U.S. at 453
    , 
    93 S. Ct. at 2534
    ) (Brennan, J., dissenting)).
    The other circuits are divided on the question of whether
    the community caretaker exception applies outside of the
    automobile context, and in particular to warrantless searches
    of the home. In addition to this circuit, the Third, Ninth, and
    Tenth circuits have confined the community caretaking
    exception to the automobile context. See Ray v. Tp. of Warren,
    
    626 F.3d 170
    , 177 (3d Cir. 2010); United States v. Bute, 
    43 F.3d 531
    , 535 (10th Cir. 1994) (2-1 decision); United States v. Erickson,
    
    991 F.2d 529
    , 531-33 (9th Cir. 1993).6 In contrast, the Fifth, Sixth,
    and Eighth circuits have relied on the community caretaking
    exception to justify warrantless searches of the home. See
    United States v. Quezada, 
    448 F.3d 1005
    , 1007-08 (8th Cir. 2006);
    United States v. Rohrig, 
    98 F.3d 1506
    , 1521-25 (6th Cir. 1996) (2-1
    decision); United States v. York, 
    895 F.2d 1026
    , 1029-30 (5th Cir.
    6
    More recently, the Ninth Circuit found that a warrantless entry into a
    home was justified when police entered the home in a community
    caretaking role while responding to a perceived emergency; the court
    emphasized that the circumstances must present a genuine emergency in
    order for such an entry to be justified. See United States v. Stafford, 
    416 F.3d 1068
    , 1073-75 (9th Cir. 2005). Despite the references to community
    caretaking, the decision is probably best characterized as relying on the
    emergency aid doctrine rather than the community caretaking doctrine.
    26                                                    No. 12-2272
    1990) (framed as an exigent circumstances decision, but
    stressing community caretaking role of police in abating noise
    disturbance). However, the Sixth Circuit more recently has
    expressed doubt that the community caretaking doctrine
    would generally authorize the warrantless entry into a home,
    see United States v. Williams, 
    354 F.3d 497
    , 508 (6th Cir. 2003),
    although its decision in that case ultimately rested on the fact
    that police were motivated by a suspicion of criminal wrong-
    doing in addition to community caretaking purposes, 
    id.
    Finally, the Fourth Circuit has indicated that the community
    caretaking exception may justify a warrantless residential
    search when, as in Cady, the search is conducted pursuant to
    routine procedure and not for purposes of criminal evidence-
    gathering. Hunsberger v. Wood, 
    570 F.3d 546
    , 554 (4th Cir. 2009)
    (Wilkinson, J.). See also MacDonald v. Town of Eastham, 
    2014 WL 944707
    , at *4-*6 (1st Cir. Mar. 12, 2014) (noting disarray in cases
    and leaving question open); United States v. McGough, 
    412 F.3d 1232
    , 1238-39 (11th Cir. 2005) (noting that “we have never
    explicitly held that the community caretaking functions of a
    police officer permit the warrantless entry into a home”; court
    goes on to find that in any event facts did not warrant applica-
    tion of the exception in that case). A similar division exists at
    the state level. See Gregory T. Helding, Comment, Stop Ham-
    mering Fourth Amendment Rights: Reshaping the Community
    Caretaking Exception With the Physicial Intrusion Standard, 97
    MARQUETTE L. REV. 123, 143-48 (2013) (collecting cases extend-
    ing community caretaking exception beyond the automobile
    context); Naumann, supra n.5, 26 AM. J. CRIM. L. at 352-57
    (surveying different approaches employed by state courts).
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    As the district court noted, the Wisconsin courts in particu-
    lar have extended the community caretaking doctrine to
    searches of homes. We reserve our discussion of the Wisconsin
    precedents for our qualified immunity analysis below. For
    now, it is sufficient to express our agreement with the district
    court that, given our decision in Pichany, the warrantless entry
    into Sutterfield’s home cannot be sustained on the basis of the
    community caretaker doctrine.
    The exigent circumstances exception to the warrant
    requirement constitutes a second ground on which the
    warrantless entry into Sutterfield’s home potentially could be
    justified. Pursuant to this exception, a warrantless entry into a
    dwelling may be lawful when there is a pressing need for the
    police to enter but no time for them to secure a warrant.
    Michigan v. Tyler, 
    436 U.S. 499
    , 509, 
    98 S. Ct. 1942
    , 1949 (1978);
    see also, e.g., Fitzgerald v. Santoro, 
    707 F.3d 725
    , 730 (7th Cir.
    2013). Recognized exigencies include situations in which the
    occupant of a residence is injured or is in danger of imminent
    injury, Michigan v. Fisher, 
    558 U.S. 45
    , 47-48, 
    130 S. Ct. 546
    , 548-
    49 (2009); Brigham City, Utah v. Stuart, 
    supra,
     
    547 U.S. at 403-04
    ,
    
    126 S. Ct. at 1947
    ; see, e.g., Fitzgerald, 707 F.3d at 731-32) (danger
    of suicide); when there is a danger posed to others by the
    occupant of a dwelling, as when the occupant is armed and
    might shoot at the police or other persons, e.g., United States v.
    Kempf, 
    400 F.3d 501
    , 503 (7th Cir. 2005); when police are in “hot
    pursuit” of a fleeing suspect, United States v. Santana, 
    427 U.S. 38
    , 42-43, 
    96 S. Ct. 2406
    , 2409-10 (1976) (citing Warden v.
    Hayden, 
    387 U.S. 294
    , 
    87 S. Ct. 1642
     (1967)), or there is a risk
    that the suspect may escape, see Minnesota v. Olson, 
    495 U.S. 91
    ,
    100, 
    110 S. Ct. 1684
    , 1690 (1990); and to prevent the imminent
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    destruction of evidence, Kentucky v. King, 
    131 S. Ct. 1849
    , 1856-
    57 (2011). Whether the exigent circumstances exception justifies
    warrantless action is judged by an objective standard: we ask
    whether it was reasonable for the police officers on the scene to
    believe, in light of the circumstances they faced, that there was
    a compelling need to act and no time to obtain a warrant. See
    Tyler, 
    436 U.S. at 509
    , 98 S. Ct. at 1949; e.g., Fitzgerald, 707 F.3d
    at 730. There must be a genuine need to forego the warrant
    process; and in assessing that need, we must focus not only on
    the moment that police made the decision to make the warrant-
    less entry, but rather “appraise the agents' conduct during the
    entire period after they had a right to obtain a warrant and not
    merely from the moment when they knocked at the front
    door.” United States v. Patino, 
    supra,
     
    830 F.2d at 1416
     (quoting
    United States v. Rosselli, 
    506 F.2d 627
    , 630 (7th Cir.1974) (foot-
    note omitted) (Stevens, J.)).
    Related to both of the foregoing exceptions to the warrant
    requirement is the emergency or emergency aid doctrine,
    which recognizes that a warrantless entry into the home may
    be appropriate when police enter for an urgent purpose other
    than to arrest a suspect or to look for evidence of a crime. See
    Mincey v. Ariz., 
    supra,
     
    437 U.S. at 392-93
    , 98 S. Ct. at 2413;
    Hanson v. Dane Cnty., Wis., 
    608 F.3d 335
    , 337-38 (7th Cir. 2010);
    United States v. Richardson, 
    208 F.3d 626
    , 630 (7th Cir. 2000);
    United States v. Salava, 
    978 F.2d 320
    , 324-25 (7th Cir. 1992). Like
    the community caretaker exception to the warrant require-
    ment, this doctrine recognizes that police play a service and
    protective role in addition to a law enforcement role. See Sheik-
    Abdi v. McClellan, 
    37 F.3d 1240
    , 1244 (7th Cir. 1994) (citing
    United States v. Moss, 
    963 F.2d 673
    , 678 (4th Cir. 1992)). In the
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    former capacities, police officers may sometimes need to enter
    a dwelling in order to render aid to an occupant whom they
    believe to be in distress and in immediate need of their
    assistance. 
    Id.
     The test for this exception is also objective: the
    question is whether the police, given the facts confronting
    them, reasonably believed that it was necessary to enter a
    home in order to “render assistance or prevent harm to
    persons or property within.” 
    Id.
     (quoting Moss, 
    963 F.2d at 678
    ); see also United States v. Jenkins, 
    329 F.3d 579
    , 581-82 (7th
    Cir. 2003).
    Although we had understood the emergency aid doctrine
    to be separate from (albeit related to) the exigent circumstances
    exception, see Sheik-Abdi, 
    37 F.3d at 1244
    , see also Hopkins v.
    Bonvicino, 
    573 F.3d 752
    , 763 (9th Cir. 2009); John F. Decker,
    Emergency Circumstances, Police Responses, and Fourth Amend-
    ment Restrictions, 89 J. CRIM. L. & CRIMINOLOGY 433, 441-45
    (1999), the Supreme Court in Brigham City effectively made the
    former a subset of the latter. 
    547 U.S. at 403-4
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1947
    ; see Tuerkheimer, supra n.5, 49 ARIZ. L. REV. at 812-13 &
    n.60.
    The police in Brigham City had responded to a 3:00 a.m. call
    complaining of a loud party at a residence. On arrival at the
    residence, the officers heard shouting from inside of the house,
    walked down the driveway, saw two juveniles drinking beer
    in the backyard, and from there noticed an altercation taking
    place in the kitchen of the home. Through a screen door, they
    saw four adults attempting to restrain a juvenile, who was able
    to break free and strike one of the adults, drawing blood. As
    the struggle continued, one of the officers opened the door to
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    the kitchen, announced himself, and then entered. At that
    point, the altercation ceased. The police ultimately arrested the
    adults for, inter alia, contributing to the delinquency of a minor
    and disorderly conduct. At issue before the Supreme Court
    was the lawfulness of the police officers’ entry into the resi-
    dence.
    The Court determined that the interest in preventing injury
    to an occupant of the home justified a warrantless entry by the
    police. The Court recognized that the need to assist a person
    who is seriously injured or who is threatened with such an
    injury is one type of exigency that obviates the need to obtain
    a warrant: “The need to protect or preserve life or avoid
    serious injury is justification for what would be otherwise
    illegal absent an exigency or emergency.” 
    547 U.S. at 403
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1947
     (internal quotation marks and citations omitted).
    “Accordingly, law enforcement officers may enter a home
    without a warrant to render emergency assistance to an injured
    occupant or to protect an occupant from imminent injury.” 
    Ibid.
    The officers’ subjective motive for the entry—be it to quell
    violence or to make an arrest, for example—is irrelevant; what
    matters is whether the facts, viewed objectively, justified the
    action taken by the police. 
    Id. at 404-05
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1948
    . In
    this case, the officers witnessed a fracas ongoing within the
    home that had already resulted in injury to one of the occu-
    pants. The officers consequently had reason to believe both
    that the person who had been struck might need help and that
    the fight might continue without intervention. The entry into
    the home was therefore reasonable. 
    Id. at 406
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1949
    .
    We relied on Brigham City’s exigency rationale in Fitzgerald,
    
    707 F.3d 725
    , to sustain a warrantless entry into a home where
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    police had reason to believe that the occupant might harm
    herself. The police in Fitzgerald were summoned to the plain-
    tiff’s home after she had a telephone conversation with a police
    officer that caused that officer to be concerned that she might
    be suicidal. At the conclusion of a stressful, aggravating day,
    the plaintiff, who had been drinking, attempted to contact a
    local help line but instead found herself speaking to the desk
    sergeant at a local police station. Although she denied enter-
    taining suicidal thoughts, the sergeant, while remaining on the
    line with her, dispatched officers to her home, reporting that
    she was highly depressed, intoxicated, and possibly suicidal.
    As the officers were approaching the plaintiff’s condominium,
    they learned that the plaintiff had just abruptly hung up on the
    desk sergeant. At that point, the officers made a forced,
    warrantless entry into the plaintiff’s home. After speaking with
    her for a period of 30 minutes, the officers ultimately took the
    plaintiff into custody against her will for evaluation at a
    hospital. She later filed suit, contending among other things
    that the warrantless intrusion into her home violated the
    Fourth Amendment.
    We concluded that the entry was justified based on the
    exigent circumstances exception. Given the information
    available to the officers, it was objectively reasonable for them
    to believe at the time they entered the home that the occupant
    was in need of immediate assistance. See 
    id. at 731
    (quoting
    United States v. Arch, 
    7 F.3d 1300
    , 1304 (7th Cir. 1993)). The fact
    that the officers who arrived on the plaintiff’s doorstep had not
    personally observed any suicidal behavior was not dispositive.
    They were reasonably relying on information provided to them
    by the desk sergeant, who had conveyed to them that the
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    plaintiff had called the police station, that she sounded both
    intoxicated and suicidal, and had abruptly hung up as officers
    approached her home.
    This case fits snugly within our precedents holding
    that police officers and other emergency personnel
    must be “able to assist persons in danger or other-
    wise in need of assistance.” Richardson, 
    208 F.3d at 630
    . “[W]hen police are acting in a swiftly develop-
    ing situation … a court must not indulge in unrealis-
    tic second-guessing.” Leaf v. Shelnutt, 
    400 F.3d 1070
    ,
    1092 (7th Cir. 2005) (internal quotation marks omit-
    ted). We apply that maxim again today.
    707 F.3d at 732.
    Fitzgerald, we believe, guides us to a particular result in this
    case; but before we turn back to the particular facts before us,
    several points deserve making as to the three doctrines we
    have just discussed. All three doctrines, to the extent they
    authorize the police to make a warrantless entry into a dwell-
    ing in order to render aid to a member of the
    public—sometimes described as an “assistance search,” see
    Dimino, supra n.5, 66 WASH. & LEE L. REV. at 1488—are speak-
    ing to the community caretaking function of police officers, see
    id. at 1494. There are, nonetheless, important differences in
    both the doctrines and how courts apply them that present
    challenges in deciding which of them governs a particular set
    of facts.
    Exigency, for example, is defined by a time-urgent need to
    act that makes resort to the warrant process impractical. See id.
    at 1508; see also, e.g., Tyler, 439 U.S. at 509, 98 S. Ct. at 1949;
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    United States v. Foxworth, 
    8 F.3d 540
    , 544-45 (7th Cir. 1993). If,
    on the other hand, there is time for the police to seek a warrant,
    then one must be sought: see, for example, our decision in
    Patino, 
    830 F.2d at 1416-17
    , which the district court discussed.
    870 F. Supp. 2d at 638; see also, e.g., United States v. Talkington,
    
    843 F.2d 1041
    , 1046 (7th Cir. 1988) (remanding for determina-
    tion of whether agents had time to procure warrant). But the
    focus on the standard warrant process presumes that there is
    reason to believe that something criminal is afoot. Exigency
    cases thus typically speak either of there being probable cause
    to believe a crime is being or has been committed or of the
    need to act in order to fulfill the probable cause requirement,
    as by preventing a suspect from fleeing or preserving evidence
    that might otherwise be destroyed. See Marinos, 22 GEO.
    MASON U. CIVIL RTS. L. J. at 262; Debra Livingston, Police,
    Community Caretaking, and the Fourth Amendment, 1998 U. CHI.
    LEGAL FORUM 261, 274-77 (1998); Brigham City, 
    547 U.S. at 402
    ,
    
    126 S. Ct. at 1946
     (discussing and quoting from decision of
    court below, Brigham City v. Stuart, 
    122 P.3d 506
    , 5014 (Utah
    2005)); Sheehan v. City & Cnty. of San Francisco, 
    743 F.3d 1211
    ,
    1221 (9th Cir. 2014); Hogan v. Cunningham, 
    722 F.3d 725
    , 731-32
    (5th Cir. 2013); Feliciano v. City of Miami Beach, 
    707 F.3d 1244
    ,
    1251 (11th Cir. 2013); Storey v. Taylor, 
    696 F.3d 987
    , 992 (10th
    Cir. 2012); United States v. Watson, 489 F. App’x 922, 925 (6th
    Cir. 2012) (unpublished); Cisneros v. Gutierrez, 
    598 F.3d 997
    ,
    1004 (8th Cir. 2010); United States v. Coles, 
    437 F.3d 361
    , 365-66
    (3d Cir. 2006); United States v. Cephas, 
    254 F.3d 488
    , 494-95 (4th
    Cir. 2001); United States v. Tibolt, 
    72 F.3d 965
    , 969 (1st Cir. 1995);
    United States v. Dawkins, 
    17 F.3d 399
    , 403 (D.C. Cir. 1994). In
    this respect, the exigent circumstances doctrine, as it has
    34                                                    No. 12-2272
    traditionally been understood, is ill-suited to assistance
    searches like the one in this case, where there was no reason to
    suspect anyone of committing a crime. See Dimino, 66 WASH.
    & LEE L. REV. at 1512 (“All community-caretaking cases are
    incompatible with Fourth Amendment requirements of
    warrants and probable cause.”); see also id. at 1494, 1508-09,
    1512-13; Livingston, 1998 U. CHI. LEGAL FORUM at 277 (“For
    community caretaking intrusions, … the exigency concept is
    considerably less straightforward.”); Sheik-Abdi, 
    37 F.3d at
    1244
    (citing Moss, 
    963 F.2d at 678
    ) (noting that whether warrantless
    entry effectuated for law enforcement purpose or
    service/protective purpose may distinguish exigent circum-
    stances doctrine from emergency aid doctrine).
    The emergency aid doctrine logically is a better fit in this
    regard, its defining characteristic being urgency, see Dimino, 66
    WASH. & LEE L. REV. at 1505-06, and there being no logical need
    to additionally consider probable cause and the availability of
    a standard criminal warrant. See Decker, 89 J. CRIM. L. &
    CRIMINALITY at 439, 455; Livingston, 1998 U. CHI. LEGAL FORUM
    at 277. And that appears to be true notwithstanding the
    Supreme Court’s decision in Brigham City to place the emer-
    gency aid doctrine within the exigent circumstances frame-
    work. See United States v. Gordon, 
    741 F.3d 64
    , 70 (10th Cir.
    2014) (“Officers do not need probable cause if they face exigent
    circumstances in an emergency.”) (internal quotation marks
    and citation omitted); United States v. Timmann, 
    741 F.3d 1170
    ,
    1178 & n.4 (11th Cir. 2013); Hunsberger v. Wood, 
    supra,
     
    570 F.3d at 555
    ; United States v. Huffman, 
    461 F.3d 777
    , 783 (6th Cir.
    2006); United States v. Stafford, 
    supra n.6
    , 
    416 F.3d at 1075
    . But,
    as we discuss below, the real difficulty with applying the
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    emergency aid doctrine to a case like this one may be the
    passage of a substantial amount of time between the point at
    which the police are on notice that someone requires their aid
    and the point at which they make a warrantless entry into that
    person’s home. The doctrine may not require that action be
    taken immediately in order for it to be characterized as
    “emergency” aid, see Dimino, 66 WASH. & LEE L. REV. at 1507
    (delays may be tolerable if they are explained) (citing Decker,
    89 J. CRIM. L. & CRIMINOLOGY at 508), but at some point, the
    passage of time will undermine the notion that emergency aid
    was required, id. at 1506-07.
    The community caretaking doctrine has a more expansive
    temporal reach, in that its primary focus is on the purpose of
    police action rather than on its urgency. See Livingston, 1998 U.
    CHI. LEGAL FORUM at 277 (“the relevance of time as a limiting
    principle in the exigency equation seems less apparent in these
    community caretaking intrusions—since police could not have
    obtained a traditional warrant in any event”); see also Marinos,
    22 GEO. MASON U. CIVIL RTS. L. J. at 280; Dimino, 66 WASH. &
    LEE L. REV. at 1506. Moreover, as we have already mentioned
    and as we shall discuss further, because this doctrine presumes
    that the police are not acting for any law enforcement purpose,
    whether or not there is time to seek a traditional criminal
    warrant is immaterial (although, as we also discuss, a different
    type of warrant could be envisioned).
    As a matter of doctrine, then, the community caretaking
    doctrine would potentially be the best fit for this case, in that
    it captures the beneficent purpose for which police entered
    Sutterfield’s home and leaves more room for the delay that
    preceded it than the emergency aid doctrine otherwise might.
    36                                                  No. 12-2272
    And because there is no suggestion that police had any law
    enforcement motive in entering the home, there would be a
    ready basis on which to distinguish criminal cases like Patino,
    which demand a search warrant when there is, in fact, time in
    which to seek one.
    Yet, our decision in Pichany obviously forecloses reliance on
    the community caretaking doctrine here. Although the
    defendants invoked the community caretaking doctrine below,
    they have not pursued it on appeal, let alone asked us to
    reconsider Pichany. And the division among the federal circuits
    as to the appropriate scope of the community caretaking
    doctrine makes clear that there is no obvious answer as to
    whether it is appropriate to extend that doctrine beyond the
    automobile setting that the Supreme Court dealt with in Cady.
    The defendants have chosen instead to rely on the exigent
    circumstances exception to the warrant requirement and, in
    particular, the emergency aid exception that Brigham City
    places within the exigency framework, as the justification for
    their entry into their home. And ultimately, given the Court’s
    decision in Brigham City and our own decision in Fitzgerald, we
    believe they are right on that score.
    As in Fitzgerald, the officers in this case had objectively
    reasonable grounds on which to believe that Sutterfield might
    harm herself. The police had been advised by Sutterfield’s
    physician that she had threatened to take her own life. Based
    on that report, they had completed a statement of emergency
    detention that authorized officers to take Suttefield into
    custody for a mental health evaluation. When officers arrived
    at Sutterfield’s home that evening and tried to talk to her, she
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    would not allow them into her home. Sutterfield contends that
    she was not acting “erratically,” as the district court put it, but
    simply wished to be left alone. Perhaps so. But the relevant
    point, for our purposes, is that nothing transpired at the front
    door of her home that might have put the police on notice that
    the emergency that had been reported by Sutterfield’s physi-
    cian, and which was the basis for the section 51.15 statement of
    emergency detention, had dissipated. It was objectively
    reasonable for police on the scene to believe that the danger to
    Sutterfield’s well-being was ongoing and that, in the absence
    of Sutterfield’s cooperation, they needed to enter the home
    forcibly, as they did.
    To say, as Sutterfield does, that given the passage of time
    and her own assurances to the officers that she was fine, that
    there was no longer any emergency, and that the officers
    should have heeded her demands that they leave, is to engage
    in the very sort of second-guessing that we eschewed in
    Fitzgerald. How were the officers to know that Sutterfield was
    competent to assess the state of her own mental health or that,
    regardless of what she herself said, there was no longer any
    risk that she might harm herself? Only a medical professional
    could make that judgment, and the officers had prepared and
    were executing a section 51.15 statement for the very purpose
    of having her evaluated by such a professional.
    There are, as we have acknowledged, outstanding ques-
    tions about the extent to which the exigent circumstances
    exception to the warrant requirement, and the emergency aid
    subset of exigency precedent, apply to a situation like this one.
    The district court itself had doubts about whether the warrant-
    less entry into Sutterfield’s home could be justified on the basis
    38                                                   No. 12-2272
    of exigency; and the overlapping and uncertain boundaries of
    the three doctrines we have been discussing certainly leave
    room for Sutterfield’s contention that neither the exigent
    circumstances doctrine nor any other justifies the entry into her
    home given the facts presented.
    Clearly, one concern is the nine hours that passed between
    the initial report from Sutterfield’s physician and the entry into
    Sutterfield’s home. Again, the exigency doctrine generally, and
    the emergency aid doctrine in particular, presume that there is
    an emergency that requires expeditious, if not immediate,
    action on the part of the police. See Fitzgerald, 707 F.3d at 731
    (quoting Arch, 
    7 F.3d at 1304
    ); cf. Hunsberger v. Wood, 
    570 F.3d at 554
     (whereas “[t]he community caretaking doctrine requires
    a court to look at the function performed by a police officer, …
    the emergency exception requires an analysis of the circum-
    stances to determine whether an emergency requiring immedi-
    ate action existed”) (emphasis in original). Sutterfield suggests
    that, by the time police chose to force open her storm door, the
    facts known to the officers dispelled any notion that there was
    an urgent need for them to enter her home: she had told her
    physician to call off the police, many hours had passed since
    the doctor’s initial communication with the police, and when
    the police arrived on her doorstep they could see that she was
    alive, coherent, and did not want their assistance. We should
    note that on the current record, we see no indication that the
    police acted in anything but a conscientious and expeditious
    manner; they simply had trouble locating Sutterfield. Still, it is
    a reasonable and important question how long the police may
    claim that a putative emergency justifies warrantless action.
    Section 51.15 itself specifies no limit on the time that police
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    have to execute a statement of emergency detention. At oral
    argument, the defendants’ attorney suggested that 24 hours
    might in practice be the outer limit in a case such as this one.
    But although we agree with Sutterfield that emergencies do not
    last forever, it would be folly for us to try to declare ex ante
    some arbitrary cut-off that would apply to all emergency aid
    cases. Even in this case, it is not at all clear to us, nor would it
    have been to the police, that the mere passage of time without
    apparent incident was sufficient to alleviate any concern that
    Sutterfield might yet harm herself. Cf. United States v. Salava,
    
    supra,
     
    978 F.2d at 324-25
     (period of 90 minutes that police took
    to identify lessee of mobile home and to take various precau-
    tionary measures before entering home to check for presence
    of murder victim did not vitiate emergency). And the parties
    have given us no information about how long a threat of
    suicide could be thought to impose an imminent danger of
    harm to the person who made it; certainly nothing in this
    record suggests that such a threat necessarily diminishes with
    the passage of a few hours or with the suicidal individual’s
    assurances that she is fine.
    A related concern involves the opportunity to seek a
    warrant. As we have said, the exigent circumstances exception
    traditionally has been understood to excuse the lack of a
    warrant when, although a warrant is available, the need for
    immediate action deprives law enforcement of adequate time
    to seek one. E.g., Michigan v. Tyler, 
    supra,
     436 U.S. at 509, 98 S.
    Ct. at 1949-50; United States v. Schmidt, 
    700 F.3d 934
    , 937 (7th
    Cir. 2012); Livingston, 1998 U. CHI. LEGAL FORUM at 274-77.
    Proceeding from the premise that a warrant theoretically was
    available to the police officers involved in this case, Sutterfield
    40                                                     No. 12-2272
    has argued that there was ample time for them to seek a
    warrant. The district court, having our decision in Patino in
    mind, saw some merit in that argument. Pointing out that even
    if one confines the analysis to the roughly 30-minute period
    between the initial arrival of police at Sutterfield’s doorstep
    and the entry into her home, the district court noted that Patino
    had deemed that amount of time sufficient for the police to try
    and obtain a warrant. 870 F. Supp. 2d at 638 (citing Patino, 
    830 F.2d at 1415-16
    ). Moreover, as Sutterfield suggests, it might not
    be appropriate for us to confine our consideration to that 30-
    minute period. After all, it took nine hours to track Sutterfield
    down after her physician first raised the alarm. There was
    more than sufficient time during that longer period to consult
    a judge. And even if we view the completion of the section
    51.15 statement as the event that started the clock running,
    there still were between four and five hours in which to seek a
    warrant. Assuming that there was some type of warrant
    available to the police in this situation, there was, as the district
    court pointed out, ample time in which to seek one.
    But a more fundamental question raised by this case is the
    relevance of the warrant requirement. Certainly it is logical to
    consider the availability of a warrant when the police have
    reason to suspect that criminal activity may be afoot, but what
    about cases in which the police are not acting in a law enforce-
    ment capacity? Some emergency aid cases repeat the custom-
    ary language about the lack of time to seek a warrant, e.g.,
    Fitzgerald, 707 F.3d at 730, but one wonders whether, in the
    emergency aid context, it is more accurate to say that a warrant
    is unavailable, period. See Livingston, 1998 U. CHI. LEGAL
    FORUM at 277, 281. The typical warrant, after all, requires
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    probable cause to believe that someone is engaged in criminal
    mischief and/or that evidence of a crime will be found in a
    particular place, see Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 20, 
    88 S. Ct. 1868
    ,
    1879 (1968); Wong Sun v. United States, 
    371 U.S. 471
    , 479, 
    83 S. Ct. 407
    , 413 (1963); Brinegar v. United States, 
    338 U.S. 160
    , 175-
    76, 
    69 S. Ct. 1302
    , 1310-11 (1949), and given that the point of the
    exigent circumstances doctrine is to excuse the lack of a
    warrant, it comes as no surprise that our exigency cases (and
    those of other courts, see supra at 36) frequently reference
    probable cause, e.g., United States v. Venters, 
    539 F.3d 801
    , 806-
    07 (7th Cir. 2008); Leaf v. Shelnutt, 
    400 F.3d 1070
    , 1081-82 & n.10
    (7th Cir. 2005); United States v. Rivera, 
    248 F.3d 677
    , 680-81 (7th
    Cir. 2001); Cannaday v. Sandoval, 458 F. App’x 563, 567 (7th Cir.
    2012) (per curiam) (nonprecedential decision). But in emer-
    gency aid cases, where the police are acting to protect someone
    from imminent harm, there frequently is no suspicion of
    wrongdoing at the moment that the police take action. Even in
    a case like Brigham City, for example, where there actually were
    signs of criminal activity (juveniles drinking beer in the
    backyard, and people fighting inside of the house), and the
    occupants of the house ultimately were arrested and charged
    with criminal offenses, the relevant point vis-à-vis the warrant-
    less entry was that immediate action was required in order to
    protect someone from harm. Brigham City thus articulated the
    justification for the entry not in terms of reason to believe that
    any crime was taking place, or that evidence was about to be
    destroyed, but rather as reason to believe that an occupant of
    the home needed their assistance. 
    547 U.S. at 403, 406
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1947, 1949
    . It may be, then, that probable cause in the
    emergency aid context is not reason to believe a crime is
    42                                                            No. 12-2272
    occurring or has been committed, but reason to believe that
    someone is in need of aid and there is a compelling need to act.
    See Hanson v. Dane Cnty., Wis., supra, 
    608 F.3d at 338
     (“probable
    cause just means a good reason to act”); United States v. Jenkins,
    
    329 F.3d 579
    , 581-82 (7th Cir. 2003) (reason to believe that
    occupant of home, who did not respond to 911 call-back, was
    ill, injured, or under threat of violence); see also United States v.
    Timmann, supra, 741 F.3d at 1178 n.4; United States v. Wolfe, 452
    F. App’x 180, 183 (3d Cir. 2011) (nonprecedential decision);
    United States v. Martins, 
    413 F.3d 139
    , 147 (1st Cir. 2005);
    Livingston, 1998 U. CHI. LEGAL FORUM at 275. This framing of
    the inquiry suggests that whether there was time to seek a
    warrant loses its relevance in the emergency aid subset of
    exigency cases. The passage of time may remain relevant as a
    measure of whether there was a true emergency justifying the
    intrusion into someone’s home, but not in terms of whether a
    warrant could have been sought.
    Reinforcing that point in this case is the unanswered
    question as to what type of warrant would have been available
    to the police, given that Sutterfield was not suspected of any
    crime.7 We posed that question at oral argument and neither
    7
    We set aside the possibility, not discussed by the parties, that attempted
    suicide might constitute a crime and that the police would have had reason
    to take warrantless action in order to prevent Sutterfield from committing
    that crime. Consistent with most states, Wisconsin prohibits assisting
    another person to take her own life, see 
    Wis. Stat. § 940.12
    , but does not
    appear to make attempted suicide itself a crime. See generally 2 Wayne R.
    LaFave, SUBSTANTIVE CRIM. L. § 15.6 (aiding and attempting suicide) (2d ed.
    updated through October 2013) (“In some states attempted suicide, which
    (continued...)
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    counsel could identify such an alternative. Sutterfield’s counsel
    suggested that perhaps the police could have sought a writ of
    capias8 or bench warrant authorizing Sutterfield’s detention,
    but the legal basis for such a course of action in Wisconsin
    remains unclear. Sutterfield’s counsel may be correct in
    arguing that the lack of an available warrant procedure does
    not foreclose her Fourth Amendment challenge to the warrant-
    less entry; the judiciary could, in theory, require the creation of
    an appropriate procedure. That is essentially what the Su-
    preme Court did in Camara v. Muni. Ct. of City & Cnty. of San
    Francisco, 
    387 U.S. 523
    , 
    87 S. Ct. 1727
     (1967). In Camara, the
    Court dealt with an inspection scheme pursuant to which city
    housing inspectors had the right to enter any building at a
    reasonable time simply upon presentation of their credentials.
    The plaintiff had been charged with a misdemeanor offense
    after he had repeatedly refused to allow an inspection of his
    apartment pursuant to this scheme. He contended that such a
    warrantless inspection violated his rights under the Fourth and
    Fourteenth Amendments. The Supreme Court agreed. In the
    absence of the resident’s consent, the Court held, authorities
    7
    (...continued)
    was a common law misdemeanor, was at one time a crime, but the
    prevailing view has long been otherwise.”) (footnotes omitted); see also State
    v. Genova, 
    252 N.W.2d 380
    , 383 (Wis. 1977) (“Common law crimes were
    abolished in Wisconsin in the 1955 Criminal Code.”) (citing 
    Wis. Stat. § 939.10
    ).
    8
    A writ of capias is essentially a writ commanding an officer to take a
    named individual into custody, typically when he has failed to appear or
    failed to comply with a judgment. See BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY 236 (9th ed.
    2009).
    44                                                   No. 12-2272
    were required to obtain an administrative warrant for an
    inspection supported by probable cause to believe that the
    building for which the warrant is sought qualifies for inspec-
    tion pursuant to reasonable legislative or administrative
    standards (based on such factors as the type of building, the
    condition of the surrounding area, and the passage of time) for
    conducting an inspection. Id. at 538, 87 S. Ct. at 1735-36. Camara
    at least takes us out of the crime-detecting context, but obvi-
    ously it is not a close fit with this case, which does not involve
    anything like a uniform inspection scheme.
    What Sutterfield would envision, presumably, is something
    more like a standard criminal warrant-application process in
    the sense that it is individualized, but pursuant to which a
    neutral decisionmaker determines whether there is reason to
    believe that the occupant of a dwelling is in danger such that
    entry into (and search of) the dwelling is necessary to address
    that danger. At least one writer has argued in favor of a
    community-caretaking warrant as a means of guarding against
    unnecessary intrusions into the sanctity of the home and
    against police abuses. Marinos, Comment, 22 GEO. MASON U.
    CIVIL RTS. L. J. at 284-89; see also Dimino, 66 WASH. & LEE L.
    REV. at 1520-21. But the parties have cited no existing process
    by which such a warrant could be obtained, whether in
    Wisconsin or any other jurisdiction. And we have found no
    Wisconsin case citing section 51.15 which identifies an alterna-
    tive procedure that was available to the police in the situation
    confronting them.
    To be clear then, what Sutterfield is arguing for is the
    creation of a particular type of warrant that does not currently
    exist. In making that argument, however, she does not discuss
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    who would issue a community caretaking warrant, what the
    criteria for issuance of such a warrant would be, what type of
    evidence would be required to meet those criteria (in a case like
    this one, for example, would the statement of a physician or
    other qualified mental health professional be necessary?), or
    how such a warrant might interact with an emergency commit-
    ment scheme like that established by section 51.15. Much like
    Sutterfield’s cursory contention that section 51.15 is unconstitu-
    tional, her suggestion that a warrant is required in a situation
    like this one amounts to no more than a premise that is stated
    without any elaboration or substance. We would also point out
    that the advisability of, and precedential support for, a warrant
    requirement for assistance searches are open to debate.
    Compare Marinos, 22 GEO. MASON U. CIVIL RTS. L. J. at 285, 288
    (“By requiring a community caretaking warrant, a neutral third
    party would determine [in advance] whether the circumstances
    rise to the level that requires entry into a home by balancing
    the need to search against the resident’s Fourth Amendment
    rights. … Relying solely on an ex post reasonableness determi-
    nation has contributed to a muddling of the exigent circum-
    stances exception and [the community caretaking doctrine] in
    various courts that have extended the [community caretaking
    doctrine] to the home.”), with Dimino, 66 WASH. & LEE L. REV.
    at 1521 (“Requiring administrative warrants for nonemergency
    community-caretaking searches as a matter of Fourth Amend-
    ment doctrine carries substantial disadvantages … . [It] would
    be a substantial shift from the Supreme Court’s practice in the
    community-caretaking area, which has shown no inclination
    whatever to require any kind of warrant, and it would be
    contrary to the trend of the Court’s other Fourth Amendment
    46                                                   No. 12-2272
    cases, which have tended of late to stress the Reasonableness
    Clause much more than the Warrant Clause. … Additionally,
    community-caretaking situations arise on the spur of the
    moment, and it is difficult to imagine officers being able to
    expend the time necessary to obtain a warrant while their
    crime-detection and crime-prevention duties go neglected.”).
    A decision akin to Camara requiring such a warrant, whatever
    its merits might be, would require a much more developed
    argument than this.
    Returning to first principles: What the Fourth Amendment
    requires in all cases is reasonableness, Kentucky v. King, 
    supra,
    131 S. Ct. at 1856
    ; Brigham City, 
    547 U.S. at 403
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1947
    , and without knowing what, if any, alternative process
    was available to the police, we are not prepared to say that the
    warrantless entry into Sutterfield’s home was unlawful under
    the circumstances presented to them. The police acted out of
    legitimate concern for Sutterfield’s safety and well-being (in
    other words, there is no hint that they were using the emer-
    gency as a pretext to look for evidence of a crime), they acted
    consistently with section 51.15, and the circumstances generally
    meet the criteria for a warrantless entry articulated in Brigham
    City and applied in Fitzgerald, in that it was objectively reason-
    able for the officers to believe that their intervention was
    required in order to prevent Sutterfield from harming herself,
    notwithstanding her own protestations to the contrary. Her
    own physician, a psychiatrist, had expressed concern for
    Sutterfield’s well-being and declared a need for intervention on
    her behalf, and despite the passage of time between the
    physician’s initial telephone call to the police and the forced
    entry into Sutterfield’s home, the record contains no evidence,
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    other than Sutterfield’s own protestations at the time, that the
    crisis had passed and that she no longer presented a threat to
    herself. We are not in any position, in fact, to second-guess the
    police, who were following the procedure prescribed by
    Wisconsin law (the constitutionality of which has not been
    preserved as an issue in this appeal). The forced entry into
    Sutterfield’s home was reasonable under the circumstances.
    C. Protective Sweep of Sutterfield’s Home
    Sutterfield has conceded that if the police officers’ entry
    into her home was legal, a protective sweep of the premises of
    the type authorized by Buie was also appropriate. Sutterfield
    Br. 17. Given our conclusion that the forced entry was reason-
    able, the sweep that resulted in the discovery of the locked
    compact disc case containing Sutterfield’s gun and various
    concealed-carry licenses was also reasonable, and we need not
    discuss the sweep further.
    D. Search of the Locked Case
    Opening the locked compact disc case was a significant step
    beyond the search authorized by Buie. The case was obviously
    too small to be hiding a person, the case itself was innocuous,
    and although Floriani averred that he thought the weight and
    feel of the case was consistent with a gun being inside, that was
    at most a very good guess—as the district court pointed out,
    the case could have contained almost anything.9
    9
    Even if the gun had been in plain view, there would be a separate
    question whether the Fourth Amendment permitted the seizure of the gun,
    which Sutterfield lawfully possessed. But we address the legitimacy of the
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    The defendants’ brief is conspicuously devoid of citation to
    any authority that justified the search of the locked case.10 Even
    9
    (...continued)
    seizure separately below. At this juncture, we are concerned solely with the
    decision to search the compact disc case, which was both closed and locked.
    10
    The defendants cite State v. Gocken, 
    857 P.2d 1074
     (Wash. Ct. App. 1993),
    as authority supporting a community-caretaking search of the compact disc
    case. Defendants’ Br. 23. As Gocken does not address the search of a closed
    bag or container, the defendants probably mean to cite State v. Gray, No.
    38406–6-1, 
    1997 WL 537861
    , at *3 (Wash. Ct. App. Sep. 2, 1997) (unpub-
    lished, nonprecedential decision), a case in which the court sustained the
    search of the defendant’s tote bag (where both drugs and money were
    discovered) as a legitimate exercise of the community caretaking function.
    The police encounter with Gray had begun as a safety and welfare check
    triggered by her erratic behavior. She held the officers at bay for 30 minutes,
    holding a knife to her throat and threatening to kill herself; she also made
    a number of delusional statements. When informed that she was being
    taken to the hospital, Gray asked if she could take her tote bag with her. At
    that point an officer informed her that he would have to search the bag first.
    The court concluded that the search was justified on safety grounds, to
    ensure that there was no weapon or other item in the bag that Gray might
    use to harm herself. Gray is quite similar in that respect to State v. Tilley, No.
    00-2540-CR, 
    2001 WL 942608
    , at *3-*4 (Wis. Ct. App. Aug. 21, 2001)
    (unpublished, nonprecedential decision), which upheld a search of the
    defendant’s purse and bag (in which marijuana and drug paraphernalia
    were found). A police officer had taken an intoxicated and despondent
    Tilley to the hospital, where she began to say that she was thinking about
    killing herself and had attempted to do so in the past. Those remarks led the
    officer to take Tilley into protective custody pursuant to section 51.15 for an
    emergency mental health evaluation and to search her bags for anything she
    might use to harm herself or others. The court held that the community
    caretaker exception justified the search. Both cases are distinct from this
    case in the sense that they involved an acute need to ensure that the
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    the Wisconsin cases that extend the community caretaking
    doctrine to dwellings do not go so far as to endorse full
    searches of those dwellings and their contents. As our discus-
    sion below will reveal, those cases authorize safety-related
    sweeps akin to that here, and the seizure of contraband that is
    in plain view, but no more. It may be possible to construct an
    argument that when police lawfully enter a home to address
    the possibility that the occupant may harm herself—and
    particularly where, as here, they have reason to believe the
    person in question owns a firearm (as the gun holster Sutter-
    field’s physician noticed suggested she did)—the police have
    the authority to search the premises, including closed contain-
    ers, for firearms. Cf. Cady v. Dombrowski, supra, 
    413 U.S. 433
    , 
    93 S. Ct. 2523
     (sustaining warrantless inventory search of locked
    automobile trunk for defendant’s service revolver for safety
    reasons); Stricker v. Tp. of Cambridge, 
    710 F.3d 350
    , 362 (6th Cir.
    2013) (in case of reported drug overdose, sustaining warrant-
    less search of house, including closed drawers and cabinets, for
    clues as to what drug(s) occupant may have ingested); Mora v.
    City of Gaithersburg, Md., 
    519 F.3d 216
    , 225-26 (4th Cir. 2008)
    (Wilkinson, J.) (in case of reported comments by plaintiff to
    hotline operator that he was suicidal, that he could understand
    shooting people at work, that he had weapons in his apart-
    10
    (...continued)
    detained individual did not have access to a weapon or other implement of
    harm in her belongings. By contrast, Sutterfield never asked to take the
    compact disc case with her to the hospital, so there was no immediate need
    to search the case in order to protect both her and the individuals who
    would be transporting and then examining her during the period of her
    emergency detention.
    50                                                   No. 12-2272
    ment, and that he “might as well die at work,” sustaining
    warrantless search of plaintiff’s luggage, van, and apart-
    ment—including locked rooms, gun safes, and filing cabi-
    nets—even after plaintiff had been seized and handcuffed, in
    order to determine scope of threat potentially posed by
    plaintiff). It bears noting, however, that this would be an
    argument for license to conduct virtually a top-to-bottom
    search of the home, as almost any closet, drawer, or container
    theoretically could contain a handgun (or other potential
    implements of self-harm). In any case, the defendants have not
    developed such an argument here.
    We therefore proceed on the assumption that the search of
    the locked compact disc case was unlawful. Sutterfield had a
    privacy interest in the contents of the case regardless of
    whether the police were searching the case for a law enforce-
    ment purpose or solely for purposes of protecting Sutterfield
    from harm. See Camara, 
    387 U.S. at 530
    , 87 S. Ct. at 1732 (“It is
    surely anomalous to say that the individual and his private
    property are fully protected by the Fourth Amendment only
    when the individual is suspected of criminal behavior.”); Dubbs
    v. Head Start, Inc., 
    336 F.3d 1194
    , 1206 (10th Cir. 2003)
    (McConnell, J.) (“The focus of the Amendment is … on the
    security of the person, not the identity of the searcher or the
    purpose of the search.”); Doe v. Heck, 
    327 F.3d 492
    , 509 (7th Cir.
    2003) (Fourth Amendment applies to intrusions during civil as
    well as criminal investigations). Even if the police had a
    legitimate interest in securing any weapons that were in plain
    view or that were in a place obviously meant for gun storage,
    such as a gun safe (a point we address below), nothing more
    than a hunch supported the notion that a gun might be inside
    No. 12-2272                                                      51
    the compact disc case. Moreover, Sutterfield was already in
    police custody at the time the case was opened and was about
    to be transported from her home for evaluation by a mental
    health profession. At that point in time, she posed no immedi-
    ate danger to herself. Still, for the reasons we discuss below in
    the qualified immunity portion of our analysis, even if the
    search of the case was unlawful, we believe that the police
    officers had ample reason to believe that it was permissible as
    a legitimate safety measure under the circumstances confront-
    ing them.
    E. Seizure of the Gun and Concealed-Carry Licenses
    1. Fourth Amendment
    Our assumption that the search of the locked case contain-
    ing the gun violated the Fourth Amendment requires a similar
    assumption as to the seizure of the gun. Cf. Wong Sun v. United
    States, supra, 
    371 U.S. at 484-86
    , 
    83 S. Ct. at 416
     (evidence seized
    as a result of an unlawful search is fruit of the poisonous tree);
    United States v. Jeffers, 
    342 U.S. 48
    , 52, 
    72 S. Ct. 93
    , 95 (1951)
    (“The search and seizure are … incapable of being untied.”),
    overruled on other grounds by Rakas v. Illinois, 
    439 U.S. 128
    , 
    98 S. Ct. 421
     (1978). Nonetheless, because the reasons for the
    seizure have a bearing on our qualified immunity analysis, it
    is worth spending a few moments discussing the competing
    interests implicated by the seizure.
    Officer Floriani’s instinct to seize the gun in order to
    remove from the house a weapon that Sutterfield might use to
    harm herself was natural and understandable. (Sutterfield’s
    empty gun holster and her remark to her doctor, after all,
    suggested that if she did do herself harm, she would do so with
    52                                                    No. 12-2272
    a gun.) Nonetheless, Sutterfield had a legal right to possess the
    gun. And, again, once she was in police custody, there was no
    possibility that she was going to harm herself with the gun
    either at that moment or during her ensuing commitment for
    a mental health evaluation. Moreover, Floriani’s concern as to
    what might happen if doctors decided to release Sutterfield
    after evaluating her poses a conundrum: Certainly there was
    a possibility that Sutterfield might again (or still) harbor
    suicidal thoughts; yet, she presumably would be released only
    if medical experts decided that she did not pose an immediate
    danger to herself. So although removing the gun from the
    house seems like a logical step to take to protect Sutterfield
    from self-harm, the possibility of her release tends to negate
    the notion that she needed such protection. Moreover, if the
    prospect of Sutterfield’s commitment for a mental health
    evaluation justified the seizure of a gun, would it also have
    justified the removal of other items that Sutterfield might use
    to harm herself, such as knives and potentially lethal medica-
    tions? These are not easy questions to answer.
    The Fourth Circuit, when confronted with somewhat
    similar circumstances, cautioned against “slic[ing] the situation
    too finely and employ[ing] hindsight too readily to actions
    aimed … at heading off a human tragedy that, once visited,
    could not be redeemed or taken back.” Mora v. City of Gaithers-
    burg, Md., supra, 
    519 F.3d at 228
    . Recall that the plaintiff in Mora
    was seized on an emergency basis after he indicated to a
    healthcare hotline operator that he was suicidal and made
    remarks suggesting that he might kill himself at work and take
    the lives of his co-workers in the process. After he was dis-
    patched to a hospital for an emergency mental health evalua-
    No. 12-2272                                                      53
    tion, the police, without a warrant, seized the many (lawfully-
    possessed) guns they had found in his home for safekeeping.
    The plaintiff argued that this step was logically unjustified,
    given that the state’s involuntary commitment statute did not
    authorize his release if, as was feared, he posed a danger to
    himself or others. The Fourth Circuit rejected this contention:
    This argument implies that once police transferred
    Mora to a psychiatrist, the responsibility for ensuring
    public safety passed to the psychiatrist as well; the
    officers could wash their hands of the situation, their job
    done. But protecting public safety is why police exist,
    and nothing in Maryland’s involuntary admission
    statute supports the remarkable suggestion that, by
    handing Mora over to doctors, the officers relinquished
    authority over the thing for which they are under law
    chiefly responsible. A psychological evaluation would
    not change what the officers already knew: that Mora
    was unstable and heavily armed, and a risk to himself
    and others. …
    
    Id.
     For similar reasons the court rejected the notion that once
    Mora was on his way to the hospital, the police should have
    sought a warrant before seizing his guns, as there was no
    longer an emergency justifying warrantless action.
    [W]e are unwilling to say the emergency that brought
    on the seizure disappeared as quickly as Mora would
    have us think. The officers were entitled to take into
    account the nature of the threat that led to their pres-
    ence at the scene, and the corroborating fact of a verita-
    54                                                            No. 12-2272
    ble fortress of weapons and ammunition they found
    when they arrived. Moreover, in the rapidly unfolding
    series of events, the officers could not be sure of exactly
    what it was they confronted. They had no way of
    knowing whether confederates might possess access to
    Mora’s considerable store of firearms, or whether Mora
    himself might return to the apartment more quickly
    than expected and carry out some desperate plan. …
    
    Id.
    To be sure, there are significant differences between the
    facts presented in Mora and those presented here: Sutterfield
    never threatened anyone’s life but her own, and so far as the
    record reveals, she possessed just one (real) gun rather than the
    “veritable fortress of weapons and ammunition” that the police
    discovered in Mora. But the essential point that the Fourth
    Circuit made in Mora is nonetheless relevant here: The police
    officers who took Sutterfield into custody had a legitimate
    public safety interest in her health, and although they knew
    that she would be evaluated by mental health professionals
    pursuant to section 51.15, they could not be sure what would
    happen next. It was natural, logical, and prudent for them to
    believe that her firearm should be seized for safekeeping until
    such time as she was evaluated and it was clear that she no
    longer posed a danger to herself.11
    11
    In the event professionals determined that Sutterfield indeed did pose a
    danger to herself (or others), one consequence of that finding might have
    been a judicial order prohibiting her from possessing a firearm and directing
    the seizure of any firearm owned by her. See 
    Wis. Stat. § 51.20
    (13)(cv)(1).
    No. 12-2272                                                  55
    An equally persuasive justification for the seizure of the
    gun is the one articulated by Sergeant Berken, that the gun
    might otherwise be accessible to Sutterfield’s son during her
    absence from the house. The police knew that Sutterfield had
    a son, but they did not know where he was or whether he
    might have unsupervised access to Sutterfield’s home in her
    absence. Neither did they know, nor could they have known,
    how long Sutterfield might be detained nor who might have
    access to the house during that time. It was arguably prudent
    to remove the gun from the home as a prophylactic measure
    during Sutterfield’s absence. Cf. United States v. Harris, 
    2014 WL 1356822
    , at *3 & n.4 (8th Cir. Apr. 4, 2014) (community
    caretaking doctrine justified temporary seizure of gun seen
    falling out of pocket of man sleeping in bus terminal, given
    danger exposed and unguarded firearm posed to public,
    including risk that a child or devious adult might take the
    gun). There may have been alternatives, but removing and
    securing the firearm was an obvious and reasonable measure.
    One need only imagine the public outcry that would have
    taken place had the police left the gun where it was and had
    Sutterfield returned home and then used the gun to take her
    own life, or had her son taken the gun in her absence and used
    it to harm himself or others, to see the wisdom in what the
    police did.
    Milwaukee does have in place a procedure, which Sutter-
    field ultimately used, to regain possession of the gun. No issue
    is raised here as to the adequacy of that procedure. So we are
    presented solely with a dispute as to the seizure of the gun at
    the time Sutterfield was taken into custody and transported for
    evaluation, rather than questions as to the timeliness and
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    efficacy of the process that Sutterfield ultimately employed to
    obtain the return of her gun.
    Finally, Sutterfield has argued that even if the seizure of the
    gun was lawful, the seizure of her concealed-carry licenses was
    not. But on the facts presented to us, the seizure of the licenses
    does not present a separate issue. We can imagine that Sutter-
    field might have been able to obtain another firearm while she
    was awaiting the return of the seized gun; she may even have
    owned other guns not seized by the police. The seizure of the
    licenses did not preclude her from possessing those guns,
    however. They simply prevented her from carrying those
    weapons in a concealed fashion in various states other than
    Wisconsin. Sutterfield has not developed any argument as to
    the ways in which her temporary inability to carry a concealed
    weapon in other states, as distinct from the seizure of her
    firearm, harmed her. On this record, any injury inflicted by the
    seizure of the licenses was de minimis, and we need not
    explore this issue further.
    We began this discussion with an assumption that, if the
    search of the case containing the gun was conducted in
    violation the Fourth Amendment, the seizure of the gun itself
    was also contrary to the Fourth Amendment. But there are, as
    we have gone on to note, powerful arguments in favor of the
    temporary seizure of the gun as a prudential measure; these
    arguments figure prominently in our qualified immunity
    analysis below. For now it bears emphasis that our assump-
    tions that the search for and seizure of the gun were inconsis-
    tent with the Fourth Amendment are just that—assumptions.
    We reserve a firm ruling on the merits of these issues for a case
    in which the arguments are better developed and supported.
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    2. Second Amendment
    Sutterfield has separately argued that the seizure of her
    firearm violated her Second Amendment rights. She reasons
    that apart from her property interest in the gun, the Supreme
    Court’s decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller, 
    supra,
     
    554 U.S. 128
     S. Ct. 2783, and McDonald v. City of Chicago, Ill., supra, 
    130 S. Ct. 3020
    , recognize her right to possess a gun in the home for
    purposes of self-defense. See also Moore v. Madigan, 
    702 F.3d 933
    (7th Cir. 2012) (2-1 decision) (holding that Second Amendment
    right to bear arms for self-defense extends beyond home), reh’g
    en banc denied over dissent, 
    708 F.3d 901
     (7th Cir. 2013). The
    seizure deprived her of that right in addition to her Fourth
    Amendment right not to have the gun taken from her without
    probable cause, she reasons.
    Whether and to what extent the Second Amendment
    protects an individual’s right to possess a particular gun (and
    limits the power of the police to seize it absent probable cause
    to believe it was involved in a crime) is an issue that is just
    beginning to receive judicial attention. Heller itself recognizes
    that the right to possess a firearm secured by the Second
    Amendment “is not unlimited.” 
    554 U.S. at 626
    , 
    128 S. Ct. at 2816
    . The Eighth Circuit, having concluded that the plaintiff’s
    Fourteenth Amendment right to due process was violated by
    the authorities’ refusal to return his gun once the legal basis for
    seizing it had evaporated, found no independent violation of
    the plaintiff’s Second Amendment right to possess the gun.
    Walters v. Wolf, 
    660 F.3d 307
    , 317-18 (8th Cir. 2011). Although
    the court confined its ruling to the facts and did not rule out
    the possibility that, under different circumstances, the seizure
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    of a gun might constitute a Second Amendment violation, 
    id. at 318
    , it reasoned that where the plaintiff had been able to
    vindicate his interest in “a meaningful procedural mechanism
    for return of his lawfully seized firearm,” by way of the due
    process clause, 
    id. at 317
    , the seizure of one particular firearm
    did not otherwise interfere with his Second Amendment
    interests: “The defendants’ policy and action affected one of
    Walter’s firearms, which was lawfully seized. The defendants
    did not prohibit Walters from retaining or acquiring other
    firearms.” 
    Id. at 318
     (emphasis in original). Cf. Houston v. City
    of New Orleans, 
    682 F.3d 361
    , 363-64 (5th Cir. 2012) (per curiam)
    (remanding to district court for determination whether state
    law permitted state officials to retain plaintiff’s handgun
    following entry of nolle prosequi on charges against him, as
    determination that state law compelled return of gun would
    render it unnecessary to decide whether defendants violated
    plaintiff’s Second Amendment rights by refusing to return gun
    to him); see generally John L. Schwab & Thomas G. Sprankling,
    Houston, We Have a Problem: Does the Second Amendment Create
    a Property Right to a Specific Firearm?, 112 COLUM. L. REV.
    SIDEBAR 158 (2012) (agreeing that Second Amendment does not
    encompass right to possess a specific firearm, criticizing lack of
    analytic rigor in judicial decisions to date on this subject, and
    proposing cautious, minimalist approach to determining scope
    of Second Amendment).
    This is not an issue that we have addressed and it is not one
    that we will address here. Beyond a bare-boned contention that
    the seizure violated her Second Amendment rights, Sutterfield
    has not developed a cogent argument as to the reach and
    application of the Second Amendment in the law enforcement
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    and community caretaking context. The issue is a sensitive one,
    as it implicates not only the individual’s right to possess a
    firearm, but the ability of the police to take appropriate action
    when they are confronted with a firearm that may or may not
    be lawfully possessed, and which, irrespective of the owner’s
    right to possess the firearm, may pose a danger to the owner or
    others.
    We do reiterate that Milwaukee has a procedure by which
    a citizen whose lawfully-possessed gun has been seized may
    seek its return. Sutterfield availed herself of that procedure and
    has not contested its adequacy in this appeal. This too counsels
    against addressing the merits of Sutterfield’s Second Amend-
    ment claim. Cf. Houston, 682 F.3d at 364.
    F. Qualified Immunity
    Qualified immunity shields a government official from suit
    when the official is performing a discretionary function and his
    conduct does not violate clearly established rights of which a
    reasonable person would have known. Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 
    457 U.S. 800
    , 818, 
    102 S. Ct. 2727
    , 2738 (1982); see also, e.g., Volkman
    v. Ryker, 
    736 F.3d 1084
    , 1089-90 (7th Cir. 2013).
    Sutterfield concedes that all but one of the police actions at
    issue in this case were discretionary acts that are potentially
    subject to qualified immunity. The one action she asserts was
    not discretionary was the seizure of her person pursuant to
    section 51.15. This assertion is based largely on Hewitt’s and
    Berken’s testimony that they were going to execute the
    statement of emergency detention by taking Sutterfield into
    custody regardless of what transpired when they located her
    and gained access to her home. Sutterfield reads this testimony
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    as proof that the decision to seize her was not discretionary.
    She contradicts herself on this point, however, when she
    argues that the police officers who seized her should have
    realized that section 51.15 itself is flawed—the implication
    being that they could and should have declined to implement
    the statement of emergency detention. No matter. As we
    discussed earlier, Sutterfield has not preserved a challenge to
    the legality of her seizure. Whether or not that act was poten-
    tially subject to a qualified immunity defense is therefore a
    question we need not address.
    The defense clearly does apply to the other acts to which
    Sutterfield has preserved a challenge—the warrantless entry
    into her home, the search of the locked compact disc case, and
    the seizure of the gun and licenses. For the reasons that follow,
    given the broad sweep that Wisconsin courts have given to the
    community caretaking doctrine, we agree with the district
    court that the police could have thought each of these actions
    was permissible in order to protect Sutterfield’s well-being.
    One point as to the relevance of Wisconsin cases must be
    disposed of at the start. Sutterfield contends that because
    Wisconsin precedent would not bind this court on the merits
    of her claims, and because in particular we, in contrast to the
    Wisconsin courts, have refused to extend the community
    caretaking doctrine to anything but automobile searches, the
    Wisconsin cases are irrelevant in terms of whether the defen-
    dants have qualified immunity. Not so. Although it is true that
    in this court, the Wisconsin cases have persuasive value only
    on the merits of Sutterfield’s federal claims, they remain
    relevant as to what the defendants might have thought the law,
    including the federal constitution, permitted them to do in
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    executing the emergency statement of detention. Federal courts
    do not possess exclusive authority to decide Fourth Amend-
    ment issues; state courts resolve such issues every day. See
    Pompey v. Broward Cnty., 
    95 F.3d 1543
    , 1550 (11th Cir. 1996)
    (“The state courts are courts of equal dignity with all of the
    federal ‘inferior courts’—to use the Framers’ phrase—and state
    courts have the same duty to interpret and apply the United
    States Constitution as we do.”). In the absence of a controlling
    decision by the United States Supreme Court, the Wisconsin
    cases are thus as relevant as our own precedents in evaluating
    what a Milwaukee police officer might have thought the law
    permitted in responding to a report that the occupant of a
    private dwelling was in danger of harming herself. See Burgess
    v. Lowery, 
    supra,
     
    201 F.3d at 945-46
    ; see also Stanton v. Sims, 
    134 S. Ct. 3
    , 5, 7 (2013) (per curiam) (considering decisions of both
    federal and state courts in concluding it was not clearly
    established that warrantless entry into home in hot pursuit of
    person believed to have committed misdemeanor offense was
    contrary to Fourth Amendment); Barnes v. Zaccari, 
    669 F.3d 1295
    , 1307 (11th Cir. 2012); Starlight Sugar, Inc. v. Soto, 
    253 F.3d 137
    , 144-45 (1st Cir. 2001); Edwards v. City of Goldsboro, 
    178 F.3d 231
    , 251 (4th Cir. 1999).12
    12
    It is worth noting that even if we were reviewing the Wisconsin
    decisions we are about to discuss—both of which are criminal
    cases—pursuant to petitions for a writ of habeas corpus, see 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    , the conflict between those decisions and our own decision in Pichany
    as to the appropriate scope of the community caretaker exception would
    not by itself support habeas relief. Pursuant to the Antiterrorism and
    Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, the state decisions would have to be
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    Although our decision in Pichany refused to extend the
    community caretaking exception recognized by the Supreme
    Court in Cady beyond the automobile context, Wisconsin
    courts have given the exception a much broader reach. They
    have relied on the community caretaking doctrine to justify
    warrantless entries into the home when the police have reason
    to believe that the occupant may be injured or otherwise in
    danger of harm.
    The appellate court’s decision in State v. Horngren, 
    617 N.W.2d 508
     (Wis. Ct. App. 2000), applied the doctrine in the
    context of a reported suicide threat to hold that a warrantless
    entry into and search of a home under circumstances much like
    those presented here was lawful. The police in that case had
    received a call reporting that Horngren had threatened to kill
    himself. While en route to Horngren’s apartment, the respond-
    ing officers were further advised he had a history of prior
    suicide threats (and had once been committed to a mental
    health facility for such a threat), and that he had (lawfully)
    possessed multiple firearms. When they arrived at the apart-
    ment, the officers knocked on his door and discovered it was
    unlocked. When one of the officers leaned on the door, causing
    it to open slightly, a naked Horngren rushed to the door and
    tried to push it shut without success. The officers forced the
    12
    (...continued)
    “contrary to, or involve[ ] an unreasonable application of, clearly estab-
    lished Federal law, as determined by the Supreme Court of the United States,”
    in order to support the issuance of a writ. § 2254(d)(1) (emphasis ours). See
    Marshall v. Rodgers, 
    133 S. Ct. 1446
    , 1450-51 (2013) (per curiam); Williams v.
    Taylor, 
    529 U.S. 362
    , 412-13, 
    120 S. Ct. 1495
    , 1523 (2000); Morales v. Boat-
    wright, 
    580 F.3d 653
    , 662-63 (7th Cir. 2009).
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    door open, placed Horngren in handcuffs, and then conducted
    a sweep of the apartment in order to determine whether there
    was someone else present, as Horngren told them there was.
    During that sweep, they came across marijuana that was in
    plain view. That discovery (along with drug paraphernalia
    found pursuant to a subsequent consensual search of the
    premises) led to criminal charges against Horngren. He sought
    to suppress the marijuana and drug paraphernalia on the
    ground that the warrantless entry into and sweep of his home,
    which resulted in the discovery of the marijuana, violated the
    Fourth Amendment. The Wisconsin appellate court, however,
    held that the entry and sweep were consistent with both the
    Fourth Amendment and the corresponding provision of
    Wisconsin’s constitution, as the police were not engaged in
    traditional law enforcement when they entered Horngren’s
    home but rather community caretaking. Id. at 511. The court
    applied a two-part test to determine whether the community
    caretaker exception to the warrant requirement applied, first
    confirming that the police were engaged in bona fide commu-
    nity caretaking activity, that is, activity “totally divorced from
    the detection, investigation, or acquisition of evidence relating
    to the violation of a criminal statute,” id. (internal quotation
    marks and citations omitted), and second, weighing the public
    good served by the actions of the police against the level of
    intrusion on the individual’s privacy, and determining in light
    of that balance whether the police action was reasonable on the
    facts and circumstances of the individual case, id.
    Citing section 51.15, the court observed that the police had
    a legitimate interest in Horngren’s well-being, given the
    reported suicide threat, that permitted them to enter the home
    64                                                 No. 12-2272
    against Horngren’s consent. “Truly, the motivation in investi-
    gating the complaint was to render aid, not to investigate any
    criminal activity.” Id. at 511. Given the potential danger to
    Horngren’s well-being, the public interest also supported the
    degree of intrusion upon Horngren’s privacy. Id. at 512.
    Preventing an individual from taking his own life was of the
    “utmost public concern.” Id. The circumstances were also
    genuinely exigent: the police were acting in response to an
    emergency call and to the circumstances presented to them;
    and no less intrusive means of responding to the exigency were
    feasible under the circumstances.
    The sweep of the premises was likewise permissible: the
    court noted that a protective sweep is authorized to ensure the
    safety of the police and others present on the premises. Id. at
    513. Horngren had indicated to the officers that a girl was
    present but she had not shown herself despite the officers’
    struggle with him; it would have been unreasonable, in the
    court’s view, for the police not to check on her status. And
    because they discovered the marijuana in plain view during
    the check for the girl, the court concluded that the marijuana
    should not be suppressed. Id. at 513-14.
    In State v. Pinkard, 
    785 N.W.2d 592
     (Wis. 2010), the Wiscon-
    sin Supreme Court—applying both the Fourth Amendment
    and its Wisconsin counterpart—likewise sustained the
    warrantless entry into, and sweep of, a dwelling, this time in
    response to a report suggesting that the occupants were
    unconscious, possibly as the result of drug abuse. There, a
    police officer had received a tip that two people were seen
    sleeping in a residence next to cocaine, money, and a digital
    No. 12-2272                                                              65
    scale; the back door to the residence was reportedly standing
    open. Police responded to the tip, saw that the back door (the
    main entrance to the residence) was indeed standing three-
    quarters of the way ajar, knocked and announced themselves
    to no response, and entered the dwelling. Upon looking
    around, they saw an open bedroom door and two people
    sleeping inside of that bedroom. They announced themselves
    loudly a second time to the occupants, and after again receiv-
    ing no response, entered the bedroom. There, in plain view,
    they observed both powder and crack cocaine, marijuana, and
    a digital scale. Ultimately, they had to physically shake one of
    the occupants—Pinkard, the defendant—awake, after which
    they arrested him for possession of the drugs.13
    The court held that the warrantless entry into the defen-
    dant’s home constituted a legitimate exercise of the community
    caretaking function of the police. Consequently, the drugs and
    drug paraphernalia discovered in the home were admissible
    against Pinkard at trial.
    At the outset, the court expressly rejected Pinkard’s
    contention that the community caretaking exception first
    recognized by the United States Supreme Court in Cady was
    limited to searches of automobiles. The court instead declared
    that the community caretaking function may also justify the
    warrantless entry into a home, depending on the totality of the
    13
    They subsequently found a gun underneath the mattress. However, the
    trial court granted the defendant’s motion to suppress the gun, finding that
    searching beneath the mattress exceeded the bounds of the police officers’
    community caretaking function. That ruling was not appealed by the State.
    785 N.W.2d at 596.
    66                                                              No. 12-2272
    circumstances confronting the police. Id. at 598-601. Whether
    the police were serving a bona fide community caretaking
    function when they entered Pinkard’s home presented a
    “close” question, in the sense that the information reported to
    the police not only raised a legitimate concern for the occu-
    pants’ safety but also implicated the occupants in criminal
    activity. Id. at 603. But the court declined to take a narrow view
    of the community caretaking exception and limit the exception
    only to cases in which the sole motivation for police action is
    the safety and well-being of a dwelling’s occupant; community
    caretaking and law enforcement objectives are not mutually
    exclusive, the court reasoned. Id. at 604-05.14
    With that point settled, the court considered whether the
    community caretaker exception justified the warrantless entry
    into and sweep of Pinkard’s home. After ascertaining that a
    Fourth Amendment search or seizure had occurred, id. at 602,
    the court engaged in the same two-part inquiry that the
    appellate court had in Horngren: (1) were the police exercising
    14
    By contrast, some scholars have advocated for a rule conditioning
    application of the community caretaking doctrine on evidence that the
    police were animated primarily or solely by a community caretaking
    purpose, as opposed to a criminal law enforcement purpose, when they
    took warrantless action. See Dimino, 66 WASH. & LEE L. REV. at 1528-40;
    Decker, 89 J. CRIM. LAW & CRIMINOLOGY at 510-12; cf. People v. Mitchell, 
    347 N.E.2d 607
    , 609 (N.Y. 1976) (finding warrantless entry into defendant’s
    hotel room to be justified under emergency aid doctrine, in part because
    police had no motive to apprehend and arrest defendant or to seize
    evidence), abrogated by Brigham City, 
    547 U.S. at 404-05
    , 
    126 S. Ct. at 1948
     (in
    emergency aid situation, “[t]he officer’s subjective motivation is irrele-
    vant.”).
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    a bona fide community caretaking function, and, if so, (2)
    whether the public interest outweighed the intrusion upon the
    privacy of the individual, such that the officers’ exercise of
    their community caretaking function was reasonable. See id. at
    601.
    The court answered these questions in the affirmative. In
    this case, the police had a legitimate concern for the well-being
    of the unconscious, unresponsive occupants of the house. Id. at
    603-04. Balancing the public interest served by police action
    against the intrusion on Pinkard’s privacy interests, id. at 605,
    the court concluded that the former outweighed the latter: it
    was possible that the occupants may have overdosed on drugs
    and thus required urgent medical assistance, and the fact that
    the door to the residence was left ajar suggested that the
    occupants were unable to look out for their own interests, id.
    at 606-08. In short, given the totality of the circumstances, the
    entry into the house and then the open bedroom constituted a
    reasonable exercise of the police officers’ community caretak-
    ing function. Id. at 608. And as the drugs were observed in
    plain view in the bedroom, they were admissible against the
    defendant at trial. Id.15
    15
    See also, e.g., State v. Ziedonis, 
    707 N.W.2d 565
     (Wis. Ct. App. 2005)
    (sustaining warrantless entry into defendant’s home—wherein both
    unlawfully possessed firearms and marijuana were observed in plain
    view—on basis of community caretaker doctrine, where police, in attempt
    to solicit defendant’s help in corralling his dogs, which were running loose
    outside his residence and causing a disturbance in the middle of the night,
    saw that back door of defendant’s home was open by several inches, and
    defendant did not respond to repeated and prolonged efforts to announce
    (continued...)
    68                                                         No. 12-2272
    Based on these decisions, the officers who forcibly entered
    Sutterfield’s home could have believed that their entry was
    justified by the community caretaking doctrine as understood
    and applied by the Wisconsin courts. They had a section 51.15
    statement of emergency detention to execute based on the
    suicidal remark Sutterfield had made to her physician earlier
    that day. Sutterfield would not voluntarily admit the officers
    to her home; and her behavior, if not erratic, did nothing to
    allay the concerns raised by the physician’s report to the police.
    The entry was made in a bona fide effort to assure Sutterfield’s
    well-being; there has never been any suggestion that the police
    were acting for a law enforcement motive. In relevant respects,
    the circumstances of this case, as we have noted, were substan-
    tially similar to the circumstances that the appellate court in
    Horngren found sufficient to justify a forcible entry. Based on
    both that precedent and Pinkard, the police reasonably could
    have thought that the public interest in safeguarding Sutter-
    field’s life outweighed the intrusion into the privacy of her
    home.
    15
    (...continued)
    their presence and have him come to door); State v. Ferguson, 
    629 N.W.2d 788
     (Wis. Ct. App. 2001) (sustaining warrantless entry into defendant’s
    bedroom and closet—wherein marijuana plants were discovered—as
    legitimate exercise of community caretaker function, where occupants of
    bedroom did not respond to officers’ repeated knocks and yells, there were
    multiple indicia elsewhere in the apartment that juveniles had been
    drinking substantial amounts of alcohol, and defendant had not been seen
    at work in several days; officers were justified in both entering bedroom
    and checking closet to make sure there was no one inside who needed
    assistance).
    No. 12-2272                                                              69
    The decision to forcibly open and search the locked
    compact disc case discovered in the course of the protective
    sweep presents a closer question in terms of the officers’
    qualified immunity, just as it does on the merits of Sutterfield’s
    Fourth Amendment claim. No Wisconsin case that has been
    cited to us or that we have found has relied on the community
    caretaking doctrine to justify any search of the premises more
    intrusive than the sort of limited, protective sweep envisioned
    by Buie—that is, a search of places within the home that
    another person might be found. 
    494 U.S. at 335-36
    , 110 S. Ct. at
    1099. The gun, having been secured within a locked, opaque
    case, obviously was not in plain view, in contrast to the drugs
    found in both Horngren and Pinkard. Opening the case was a
    substantial step beyond the standard protective sweep, and
    constituted a more substantial intrusion on Sutterfield’s
    privacy interests in her personal effects.16
    Even so, a police officer might have thought the search of
    the case justified by the circumstances presented to him and
    the broader articulation of the community caretaking doctrine
    16
    Compare State v. Toliver, No. 2010AP484-CR, 
    2011 WL 228889
     (Wis. Ct.
    App. Jan. 26, 2011) (nonprecedential decision) (community caretaker
    doctrine justified officer’s decision to open purse and look for identifica-
    tion, where officer was responding to report of possible suicide attempt and
    arrived to discover purse left unattended in common area outside of
    duplex), with State v. Kuczor, No. 2009AP1077-CR, 
    2009 WL 3103749
     (Wis.
    Ct. App. Sep. 30, 2009) (nonprecedential decision) (community caretaker
    doctrine did not justify warrantless search of defendant’s duffel bag by
    deputy who responded to defendant’s one-car accident, notwithstanding
    both accident and defendant’s strange behavior, where there were no
    particular facts that warranted intrusion into bag and deputy was simply
    on a fishing expedition.
    70                                                           No. 12-2272
    by the Wisconsin Supreme Court in Pinkard. The two-part
    inquiry set forth in Pinkard asks first whether the police acted
    for a community-caretaking purpose and second whether, on
    the totality of the circumstances, the public interest served by
    the police action outweigh the intrusion upon the individual’s
    privacy. Although we have not found any Wisconsin case that
    invoked the community caretaking doctrine to sustain a search
    akin to that here, neither have we found anything that would
    preclude this result when the search is conducted for purposes
    of protecting someone’s safety or well-being. We can imagine,
    for example, that in the case of a reported suicide attempt by
    drug overdose, a Wisconsin court might sustain the search of
    someone’s medicine cabinet, nightstand, or purse in an effort
    to locate drugs that the individual has taken or might take. See
    Stricker v. Tp. of Cambridge, supra, 710 F.3d at 362 (sustaining the
    warrantless search of home, including drawers and cabinets,
    where drug overdose of occupant had been reported and such
    search might yield clues as to what occupant had ingested).
    Indeed, the U.S. Supreme Court’s analysis in Brigham City
    theoretically might recognize such a situation as an emergency
    that justifies a warrantless search of this kind.17
    17
    See State v. Hooper, No. 2009AP575-CR, 
    2009 WL 4806889
     (Wis. Ct. App.
    Dec. 10, 2009) (nonprecedential decision) (finding search of defendant’s
    dresser justified by community caretaker exception, where defendant had
    summoned emergency assistance with report that she had taken cocaine and
    was having difficulty breathing, emergency medical personnel arrivedto find
    her incoherent and unresponsive, medical personnel instructed police to look
    around defendant’s apartment for any harmful substance defendant might
    have ingested, officer saw a mirror on top of dresser with powdery residue
    on it, and officer looked in dresser drawer and discovered cocaine).
    No. 12-2272                                                    71
    Here, there is no question that the police searched the
    compact disc case not for law enforcement purposes but rather
    out of a safety concern. And the police might reasonably have
    concluded that although forcing open the case was a significant
    intrusion upon Sutterfield’s privacy, it was amply justified by
    the public interest in protecting both her safety and well-being
    as well as that of anyone else who either lived with her or had
    access to her home, including in particular a minor. Given the
    nature of Sutterfield’s threat to harm herself and her physi-
    cian’s report that she likely possessed a gun, police had reason
    to look for any firearm that Sutterfield might use to harm
    herself. And although there was nothing but Floriani’s hunch
    that suggested there might be a gun inside of the case, the
    locked case was a logical place to look for a gun.
    For essentially the same reasons, we believe that a reason-
    able police officer might have thought, upon discovery of the
    gun, that he was authorized by his community caretaking
    function to seize the gun for safekeeping. Given the breadth
    that the Wisconsin courts have given to the community
    caretaking doctrine, and the fact-specific balancing of public
    versus private interests in which they engage when the police
    take action as they did here to safeguard an individual’s well-
    being, a police officer might think he would be authorized to
    seize an obvious implement of harm from an individual who
    has threatened to kill herself and is being taken into custody
    pursuant to section 51.15 for an emergency mental health
    evaluation. Regardless of Sutterfield’s legal right to possess the
    gun, there is an obvious and powerful logic and prudence
    supporting the decision to take the gun into police custody. See
    72                                                           No. 12-2272
    Florida v. J. L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 272, 
    120 S. Ct. 1375
    , 1379 (2000)
    (“Firearms are dangerous, and extraordinary dangers some-
    times justify unusual precautions.”).18 The police knew that
    Sutterfield had threatened to harm herself and was potentially
    in a volatile state of mind, that her psychiatrist believed she
    was in need of an intervention, and that, pursuant to section
    51.15, Sutterfield was facing a short-term commitment for
    evaluation and potentially a longer term commitment if
    professionals confirmed she indeed posed a danger to herself.
    They had no idea whether she would be released within a day,
    a week, or a month. And they had no idea who, in the
    meantime—including her son—might have access to her home
    and to the unattended gun. Seizing the gun might not have
    been the only step they could have taken to prevent the gun
    from being misused or falling into the wrong hands, but it was
    a rational and defensible step. See Mora v. City of Gaithersburg,
    
    supra,
     
    519 F.3d at 227-28
     (sustaining seizure of individual’s
    guns and ammunition for public safety, after individual had
    been seized for involuntary mental health admission for
    making remarks indicating he might kill himself and possibly
    his co-workers); United States v. Harris, supra, 
    2014 WL 1356822
    ,
    18
    See also State v. Kucik, No. 2009AP933-CR, 
    2010 WL 4633082
    , at *11 (Wis.
    Ct. App. Nov. 16, 2010) (nonprecedential decision) (Fine, J., concurring)
    (where defendant had been detained pursuant to section 51.15 after
    assaulting cousin and threatening life of both cousin and aunt—including
    threat to put a bullet in aunt’s head—and guns were seen in plain view in
    glass-fronted gun cabinet, it was reasonable for officers to take custody of
    defendant’s guns as safety measure in exercise of their community
    caretaking function, given that they did not know how long defendant
    would otherwise be separated from his guns).
    No. 12-2272                                                    73
    at * 3 & n.4 (sustaining temporary seizure of gun falling out of
    sleeping man’s pocket).
    For all of these reasons, the defendants are entitled to
    qualified immunity for the warrantless entry into Sutterfield’s
    home, the search of the locked compact disc case, and the
    temporary seizure of the gun found inside of the case. The
    police were faced with a difficult situation in which they had
    reason to believe, based on her physician’s report, that Sutter-
    field might pose a danger to herself, they were implementing
    an emergency detention of her person for evaluation pursuant
    to section 51.15, and they were logically attempting to find the
    firearm they had reason to believe Sutterfield possessed and to
    secure that firearm while Sutterfield was undergoing a mental
    health evaluation. Notwithstanding the uncertainty as to which
    legal framework best applies to the warrantless actions of the
    police in these circumstances, the police could have believed
    that Wisconsin precedents, if not the federal cases, authorized
    them to take these actions in order to protect Sutterfield’s well-
    being as well as the well-being of anyone else, including her
    son, who might have access to her home in her absence.
    III.
    Based on the Supreme Court’s decision in Brigham City and
    this court’s decision in Fitzgerald, we conclude that the warrant-
    less entry into Sutterfield’s home was justified. Under the
    circumstances confronting the defendant police officers, they
    had an objectively reasonable basis for believing that Sutter-
    field posed an imminent danger of harm to herself; the
    circumstances thus constituted an emergency which dispensed
    with the need for a warrant under the exigent circumstances
    74                                                 No. 12-2272
    exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement.
    Alternatively, even if the entry into Sutterfield’s home was
    inconsistent with the Fourth Amendment, a reasonable person
    would not have known that the entry violated Sutterfield’s
    clearly established rights; the officers would therefore be
    entitled to qualified immunity on the unlawful entry claim.
    Similarly, although we have assumed arguendo that both the
    search of the compact disc case in Sutterfield’s home and the
    seizure of the (lawfully-possessed) gun found inside of that
    case were contrary to the Fourth Amendment, we conclude
    that the defendant officers are entitled to qualified immunity
    on the unlawful search and seizure claims. We do not address
    Sutterfield’s summary contention that the officers’ seizure of
    her person for purposes of an emergency mental health
    evaluation pursuant to Wisconsin Statutes section 51.15 was
    contrary to the Fourth Amendment, as she has not adequately
    preserved that argument. Neither do we address Sutterfield’s
    contention that the seizure of her lawfully-possessed handgun
    violated her Second Amendment right to possess a firearm for
    the purpose of self-defense, as Sutterfield has not adequately
    developed and supported that contention, nor has she shown
    any defect in the available means of regaining possession of her
    gun from the authorities.
    The judgment of the district court is AFFIRMED.
    No. 12-2272                                                    75
    MANION, Circuit Judge, concurring.
    I am pleased to join the court’s thorough and scholarly
    opinion. After examining many of the problems, the court
    reaches the correct conclusion that the actions of the police
    officers were well within the shelter of qualified immunity
    provided by state and federal judicial opinions interpreting
    and applying the Fourth Amendment. I write separately only
    with the hope of encouraging legislatures to provide for a
    judicially-issued civil warrant process that would authorize
    law enforcement to enter someone’s home when there is
    probable cause to believe that she poses a risk to herself or
    others because of mental illness.
    In this case we are able to determine that exigent circum-
    stances justified the police forcing their way into a private
    dwelling in order to protect the owner. But there was no other
    legal authority to enter her home against her will.
    I recognize that allegations of mental health risks can have
    dramatic implications on privacy, liberty, and property rights.
    After receiving some due process, those determined to be
    mentally ill may lose certain fundamental rights, the same as
    a criminal. See 
    18 U.S.C. § 922
    (d); Jana R. McCreary, “Mentally
    Defective" Language in the Gun Control Act,” 45 CONN. L. REV.
    813 (2013). What we do not seem to have is a law that strikes a
    balance that protects those rights at least as much as it does the
    rights of the criminally accused, while still allowing for swift
    and effective responses by the police. Here, exigent
    circumstances enabled the police to bypass some legal barriers.
    But in very limited circumstances, as here, when the police are
    positioned to enter a private home against the owner’s will, it
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    would be very helpful, for example, if the state legislature of
    Wisconsin were to amend 
    Wis. Stat. § 51.15
     to allow the option
    of having what in this case is called the “Statement of Emer-
    gency Detention” approved by a judge. Then, the document
    could be a sort of civil warrant on par with an arrest warrant.
    It would allow the police to rely on the document to enter the
    home when the owner-occupant is believed to pose a risk to
    herself or others. By providing the police with the ability to
    obtain a civil warrant prior to entering the home of such a
    person, they will have a more clearly established method that
    is safely within the confines of the law and which protects
    personal property and privacy.
    Because the court resolved the issues before it consistent
    with controlling precedent, I fully concur.
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 12-2272

Citation Numbers: 751 F.3d 542

Judges: Manion concurs

Filed Date: 5/9/2014

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 1/12/2023

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