Dylan Mitchell v. Eugene Doherty ( 2022 )


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  •                                In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    No. 21-1764
    DYLAN MITCHELL, et al.,
    Plaintiffs-Appellants,
    v.
    EUGENE G. DOHERTY,
    GARY CARUANA, and
    WINNEBAGO COUNTY,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    ____________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Northern District of Illinois, Western Division.
    No. 20-cv-50285 — John Z. Lee, Judge.
    ____________________
    ARGUED DECEMBER 7, 2021 — DECIDED JUNE 22, 2022
    ____________________
    Before ROVNER, ST. EVE, and JACKSON-AKIWUMI, Circuit
    Judges.
    ST. EVE, Circuit Judge. Winnebago County does not hold
    bail hearings over the weekend. As a result, suspects may wait
    longer than forty-eight hours before a judge can set bail. Eight
    detainees, who were held for up to sixty-eight hours, sued the
    County for maintaining a policy that allegedly violates the
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    Fourth Amendment. The district court granted the defend-
    ants’ motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. We affirm.
    I.
    Police arrested eight demonstrators in Rockford, Illinois,
    seven on a Friday (Dylan Mitchell, Dayna Schultz, Larissa
    Walston, Ivan Holland, Ross Wagner, Andrew Ehrhardt, and
    Jaylen Butler) and one on a Saturday (Michael Riggs). All
    eight waited until Monday at 1:30 p.m. to receive a bail hear-
    ing, at which point seven were released either on their own
    recognizance or on bond. 1 The charges against Shultz,
    Ehrhardt, and Butler have been dismissed, and the court sen-
    tenced Mitchell, Riggs, and Wagner to probation or condi-
    tional discharge. In total, the Friday detainees were held for
    about sixty-eight hours, and the Saturday detainee was held
    for slightly over forty-eight hours.
    Plaintiffs allege the detention caused numerous injuries:
    Three missed work, and Mitchell lost her job altogether; Riggs
    could not seek medical attention for an open shoulder wound
    and bruised ribs while in jail; Walston endured three days of
    solitary confinement, was let out only once for a one-hour pe-
    riod, and was not allowed to take her prescription medication;
    and Wagner was denied medical attention for a concussion
    and a bleeding head wound.
    Plaintiffs first sued over an alleged failure to make a prob-
    able-cause determination within forty-eight hours, an
    1Ivan Holland had bail set at $50,000, pleaded guilty to burglary, and re-
    ceived a sentence of time served; plaintiffs concede that he cannot seek
    damages for his detention. See Bridewell v. Eberle, 
    730 F.3d 672
    , 677 (7th Cir.
    2013).
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    uncontested violation of the Fourth Amendment. But upon
    learning that a judge does make a probable-cause determina-
    tion within forty-eight hours, albeit on an ex parte basis,
    Plaintiffs filed an amended complaint, bringing claims under
    § 1983 against Eugene Doherty, the Chief Judge of the 17th
    Judicial Circuit Court, and Winnebago County Sheriff Gary
    Caruana, in their official capacities, as well as Winnebago
    County. They argued that the County violated the Fourth
    Amendment by denying them a bail hearing within forty-
    eight hours after detention even though a probable-cause de-
    termination had been made within that period. The complaint
    sought injunctive and declaratory relief against the chief
    judge and damages against Sheriff Caruana as well as the
    County under Monell v. Department of Social Services, 
    436 U.S. 658
     (1978).
    Plaintiffs, in conjunction with filing the amended com-
    plaint, moved for a preliminary injunction and class certifica-
    tion. The defendants moved to dismiss the counts for failure
    to state a claim, and the district court granted the defendants’
    motion and denied the class-certification motion as moot.
    This timely appeal followed.
    II.
    Plaintiffs submit that Winnebago County violates the
    Fourth Amendment by not providing a bail hearing within
    forty-eight hours after a suspect’s arrest. We review the dis-
    missal of a complaint for failure to state a claim de novo, con-
    struing all allegations and drawing all reasonable inferences
    in favor of plaintiffs. Dix v. Edelman Fin. Servs., LLC, 
    978 F.3d 507
    , 512 (7th Cir. 2020).
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    A.
    Plaintiffs argue that Supreme Court and circuit precedent
    requires a bail hearing within forty-eight hours after a sus-
    pect’s arrest. We disagree.
    The Supreme Court has twice addressed the procedural
    requirements for probable-cause determinations but never
    considered the timing of bail hearings. See Gerstein v. Pugh,
    
    420 U.S. 103
     (1975); County of Riverside v. McLaughlin, 
    500 U.S. 44
     (1991). In Gerstein v. Pugh, a Florida law allowed prosecu-
    tors to charge all non-capital offenses by information “with-
    out a prior preliminary hearing and without obtaining leave
    of court.” 
    420 U.S. at 105
    . The only way to obtain a judicial
    determination of probable cause was either through a special
    statute or by an arraignment, both of which could have taken
    over a month. 
    Id. at 106
    . Florida changed this procedure but
    still did not offer neutral judicial review within twenty-four
    hours. 
    Id. at 109
    . Two individuals charged by information
    sued over alleged Fourth Amendment violations. 
    Id. at 105
    .
    The case presented the question of “whether a person ar-
    rested and held for trial on an information is entitled to a ju-
    dicial determination of probable cause for detention.” 
    Id. at 111
    . An arrest must be supported by probable cause. 
    Id.
     But
    while prearrest review is preferred, a requirement that an of-
    ficer always obtain an arrest warrant ahead of time would
    handicap law enforcement. 
    Id. at 113
    . “Once the suspect is in
    custody, however, the reasons that justify dispensing with the
    magistrate’s neutral judgment evaporate.” 
    Id. at 114
    . Thus, the
    Court concluded, the Fourth Amendment mandates a prompt
    “judicial determination of probable cause as a prerequisite to
    extended restraint of liberty following arrest.” 
    Id.
     Florida’s
    system of detaining someone by a prosecutor’s information
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    violated the Constitution. The Court left open though just
    how promptly the state must provide a probable-cause deter-
    mination.
    County of Riverside v. McLaughlin took up this unanswered
    question. 
    500 U.S. 44
    . There, plaintiffs sued the county for the
    delay in providing probable-cause determinations. 
    Id. at 47
    .
    The county provided probable-cause determinations within
    forty-eight hours for a business week but excluded weekends
    and holidays from this calculation. 
    Id.
     Thus, a person arrested
    over the Thanksgiving holiday could be held for seven days—
    arrested on a Tuesday with no hearing until the following
    Monday. 
    Id.
     The district court imposed an injunction mandat-
    ing that all persons arrested be given a probable-cause deter-
    mination within thirty-six hours, regardless of weekends or
    holidays. 
    Id. at 49
    . The Court of Appeals affirmed the order
    granting the injunction, and the county appealed. 
    Id.
     at 49–50.
    The Supreme Court reversed. States have a strong interest
    in promoting public safety, and the “demands of federalism”
    require “flexibility and experimentation.” 
    Id. at 53
    . At the
    same time, prolonged detention harms arrestees through lost
    wages and impaired family relationships. 
    Id. at 52
    . In balanc-
    ing “the rights of individuals and the realities of law enforce-
    ment,” the Court announced the rule for probable-cause de-
    terminations: generally, “a jurisdiction that provides judicial
    determinations of probable cause within 48 hours of arrest
    will … comply with the promptness requirement of Gerstein,”
    but an arrestee can still “prove that his or her probable cause
    determination was delayed unreasonably” when, for exam-
    ple, the delays were “for the purpose of gathering additional
    evidence to justify the arrest, a delay motivated by ill will
    against the arrested individual, or delay for delay’s sake.” 
    Id.
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    at 56. The Court further remarked that bail hearings and ar-
    raignments might be combined with probable-cause determi-
    nations, but states were not required to do so. 
    Id. at 58
    .
    Our caselaw, although admittedly imprecise at times, has
    likewise never held that a bail hearing must occur within
    forty-eight hours after arrest. See Paine v. Cason, 
    678 F.3d 500
    (7th Cir. 2012); Bridewell v. Eberle, 
    730 F.3d 672
     (7th Cir. 2013).
    In Paine v. Cason, police took Christina Eilman, a woman suf-
    fering from bipolar disorder, into custody and released her on
    her own recognizance in a high-crime area. 
    678 F.3d at 504
    .
    She wandered until she eventually reached an apartment
    where a man raped her at gunpoint. 
    Id. at 506
    . Trying to es-
    cape, Eilman jumped out of a window. 
    Id.
     The resulting fall
    damaged her brain. 
    Id.
     Eilman sued, arguing in part that she
    should have been kept in custody longer to facilitate medical
    care. 
    Id.
     In denying recovery, we stated that “[e]xisting law
    creates a right to be released on bail (for bailable crimes) as
    promptly as possible, with 48 hours as the outside time before
    presentation to a judicial officer who can make an authorita-
    tive decision.” 
    Id.
     at 508 (citing McLaughlin, 
    500 U.S. 44
    ). But
    that language does not accurately reflect the holding of
    McLaughlin and is nonbinding dicta. See United States v. Craw-
    ley, 
    837 F.2d 291
    , 292 (7th Cir. 1988) (“[D]ictum is not author-
    itative. It is the part of an opinion that a later court … is free
    to reject.”). Eilman posited a near opposite theory as plaintiffs
    here: she claimed that she had a right to be detained, not that
    she had a right to be released at a bail hearing. As such, we had
    no occasion to consider what bail-hearing procedure the
    Fourth Amendment commanded. This passing and mistaken
    reference can be “deleted without seriously impairing the an-
    alytical foundations of the holding.” 
    Id.
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    Bridewell v. Eberle, while also containing some ambiguous
    language, never extended McLaughlin’s probable-cause re-
    quirements to bail hearings. 730 F.3d at 675. There, Sara Bride-
    well allegedly shot and killed a man, though she was never
    convicted of the murder. Id. She pleaded guilty only to a re-
    duced drug charge and was sentenced to time served; the
    prosecutors dismissed the murder charge. Id. Bridewell then
    sued Chicago, arguing that the police took too long to present
    her to a judge. Id. Because Bridewell was not injured by her
    sixty-three-hour detention, we decided she could not recover
    damages under McLaughlin. Id. at 676. We added that
    McLaughlin mandates “that the fourth amendment allows no
    more than 48 hours for the police to get a magistrate's ap-
    proval of a suspect’s continued detention” and that “the rea-
    son for requiring suspects in custody to be taken before a
    magistrate promptly is to ensure that detention based on ‘in-
    correct or unfounded suspicion’ is short-lived and that per-
    sons properly arrested but entitled to bail can be released
    promptly.” Id. (quoting McLaughlin, 
    500 U.S. at 52
     (internal ci-
    tation omitted)). This observation essentially summarizes the
    holding of McLaughlin: the police must obtain a magistrate’s
    approval for a probable-cause determination within forty-
    eight hours to ensure that unlawful detention is “short-lived.”
    
    Id.
     Because jurisdictions can combine probable-cause deter-
    minations and bail hearings, a prompt hearing often allows a
    suspect to be released on bail quickly, but we never held that
    a bail hearing alone must be conducted within forty-eight
    hours. Any suggestion that a bail hearing must be held at the
    same time as a probable-cause determination would have
    been dicta. Bridewell did not challenge the timing of the bail
    hearing. Indeed, “[e]vents showed that Bridewell … was not
    entitled to release on bail” in the first place. 
    Id.
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    And no other circuit has imposed a forty-eight require-
    ment for bail hearings after arrest. See Walker v. City of Calhoun,
    
    901 F.3d 1245
     (11th Cir. 2018); ODonnell v. Harris County, 
    892 F.3d 147
     (5th Cir. 2018). In Walker v. City of Calhoun, Maurice
    Walker was arrested for a crime punishable by a fine of up to
    $500. 901 F.3d at 1251. After being taken to jail, an officer told
    Walker that he could not go free unless he paid a $160 cash
    bond, which neither Walker nor his family could afford. Id.
    Walker filed a class action lawsuit against the city, and the
    district court issued a preliminary injunction requiring that
    bail hearings be held within twenty-four hours after arrest. Id.
    at 1266. The Eleventh Circuit invalidated the injunction be-
    cause the city of Calhoun already offered bail hearings within
    forty-eight hours. Given McLaughlin’s holding that a person
    can generally be held without a probable-cause determination
    for forty-eight hours, “[i]t stands to reason that the City can
    take the same 48 hours to set bail for somebody held with
    probable cause.” Walker, 901 F.3d at 1266. The Court clarified
    that it did not “decide whether a jurisdiction could adopt a
    system that allows a longer period of time than 48 hours to
    make a bail determination, because the City does not seek to
    take longer than 48 hours.” Id. at 1267 n.13. Both the federal
    system and, potentially, Georgia law allow for longer than
    forty-eight hours before a bail hearing, so a more complete
    factual record would be necessary. See id.
    Similarly, the Fifth Circuit struck down a district court’s
    injunction requiring a bail hearing within twenty-four hours.
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    See ODonnell, 
    892 F.3d 147
    . 2 The district court imposed a
    sweeping injunction to reform Harris County’s bail system,
    including a requirement that the county hold a bail hearing
    within twenty-four hours. Id. at 160. The Fifth Circuit believed
    that “the district court’s 24-hour requirement [was] too strict
    under federal constitutional standards” and added in passing
    that McLaughlin “explicitly included bail hearings within [the
    forty-eight-hour] deadline.” Id. As explained, McLaughlin
    made no such proclamation, and this passage is dicta. The
    question before the Fifth Circuit was whether the district
    court’s injunction misinterpreted the constitutional require-
    ments, which it did. Any remark about what the Fourth
    Amendment required would be unnecessary for the outcome
    of the case. See Crawley, 
    837 F.2d 291
    .
    Thus, precedent dictates that only a probable-cause deter-
    mination must be held within forty-eight hours. The constitu-
    tionally required timing of a bail hearing is an issue of first
    impression.
    B.
    We turn now to the question of whether, under the Fourth
    Amendment, a bail hearing, like a probable-cause determina-
    tion, must be held within forty-eight hours and, relatedly,
    whether the County’s practice of holding hearings up to sixty-
    eight hours after a suspect’s arrest is constitutional.
    2The Fifth Circuit overruled ODonnell v. Harris County and ODonnell v.
    Goodhart, 
    900 F.3d 220
     (5th Cir. 2018), on different grounds. Daves v. Dallas
    County, 
    22 F.4th 522
    , 540–41 (5th Cir. 2022) (en banc).
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    1.
    We begin with the County’s argument that the Fourth
    Amendment does not establish the constitutional require-
    ments for a bail hearing and, thus, we should affirm on that
    basis alone. This argument implicates the more general ques-
    tion of when Fourth Amendment protections cease. See Cath-
    erin T. Struve, The Conditions of Pretrial Detention, 
    161 U. Pa. L. Rev. 1009
     (2013) (discussing the implications of this question
    on how courts approach general conditions of confinement,
    detainee medical care, and excessive-force claims). Admit-
    tedly, again the caselaw is unclear.
    In Gerstein, the Supreme Court held that the Fourth
    Amendment, not the Due Process Clause, governs probable-
    cause determinations. 
    420 U.S. at
    125 n.27. It explained that
    “[b]oth the standards and procedures for arrest and detention
    have been derived from the Fourth Amendment and its com-
    mon-law antecedents.” 
    420 U.S. at 111
     (emphasis added). The
    Fourth Amendment is the appropriate vehicle because it “was
    tailored explicitly for the criminal justice system, and its bal-
    ance between individual and public interests always has been
    thought to define the ‘process that is due' for seizures of per-
    son or property in criminal cases, including the detention of
    suspects pending trial.” 
    Id.
     at 125 n.27. McLaughlin discussed
    the possibility of combining probable cause determinations
    and bail hearings, suggesting that the Fourth Amendment
    might apply to more judicial determinations than those con-
    cerning probable cause. See, e.g., 
    500 U.S. at 58
    .
    Albright v. Oliver produced a fractured opinion, with sev-
    eral justices indicating that the Fourth Amendment safe-
    guarded some phases of pretrial detention related to a proba-
    ble cause beyond the initial determination. 
    510 U.S. 266
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    (1994). The plaintiff sued for various pretrial restraints placed
    on him in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment’s substan-
    tive due process guarantee. 
    Id.
     at 268–69 (plurality). The claim
    was “a very limited one …. that the action of respondents in-
    fringed his … right to be free of prosecution without probable
    cause.” 
    Id. at 271
    . He never pursued a Fourth Amendment
    theory, which proved fatal for his complaint. The plurality ex-
    plained that “the specific guarantees of the various provisions
    of the Bill of Rights” are preferred over the, at times, more
    vague protections of the Due Process Clause. 
    Id. at 273
    . “The
    Framers considered the matter of pretrial deprivations of lib-
    erty and drafted the Fourth Amendment to address it.” 
    Id. at 274
    . These “deprivations of liberty [] go hand in hand with
    criminal prosecutions.” 
    Id.
     Because the Fourth Amendment
    applied, not the Due Process Clause, the four justices con-
    cluded that Albright could not proceed.
    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who joined the plurality,
    elaborated on this conclusion in her concurrence. At common
    law, a seizure “continue[d] even after release from official cus-
    tody.” 
    Id. at 278
     (Ginsburg, J., concurring). A detainee “is
    hardly freed from the state’s control upon his release from a
    police officer’s physical grip,” so logically the Fourth Amend-
    ment governs after a probable-cause determination for some-
    one released on conditions before trial. 
    Id.
     Justice David
    Souter concurred in the judgment without joining the plural-
    ity. He reasoned that reliance on one provision of the Consti-
    tution does not always “pre-empt a broad field as against []
    more general one[s].” 
    Id. at 286
     (Souter, J., concurring). But the
    particular injury suffered, “the initiation of a baseless prose-
    cution,” is specific to the Fourth Amendment. 
    Id. at 289
    . The
    “rules of recovery for such harms have naturally coalesced
    under the Fourth Amendment, since the injuries usually occur
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    only after an arrest or other Fourth Amendment seizure ….”
    
    Id. at 290
    . The two dissenters, for their part, agreed with Jus-
    tice Ginsburg’s “explanation of why the initial seizure of pe-
    titioner continued until his discharge and why the seizure
    was constitutionally unreasonable” but did not want to fore-
    close a due-process challenge. 
    Id. at 307
     (Stevens, J., dissent-
    ing). Counting votes, at least five Justices, and as many as
    seven, endorsed some theory that the Fourth Amendment ex-
    tended beyond a probable-cause determination in some cir-
    cumstances, though the contours are still opaque.
    The Supreme Court’s recent decision in Manuel v. City of
    Joliet clarified that the Fourth Amendment extends beyond
    the start of legal process but left open whether it applies out-
    side some defect in the probable-cause determination. 
    137 S. Ct. 911
     (2017). Police arrested Elijah Manuel on the suspicion
    that his vitamin bottle contained illegal drugs despite a nega-
    tive field test and a negative test from an evidence technician
    for any controlled substances. 
    Id. at 915
    . A judge, relying on
    the criminal complaint, which was based on fabricated evi-
    dence, found probable cause for further detention, thus be-
    ginning the “legal process.” 
    Id.
     Eventually, the Illinois police
    laboratory analyzed the pills again and concluded that they
    were not a controlled substance. 
    Id.
     After waiting for more
    than a month, the state dismissed the drug charge. 
    Id.
     In the
    end, Manuel was detained for seven weeks. 
    Id.
     at 915–16. Ma-
    nuel sued the city and several police officers, asserting that
    they violated his Fourth Amendment rights. 
    Id. at 916
    . The
    district court dismissed the lawsuit because Manuel brought
    the claim more than two years after his arrest. 
    Id.
     We affirmed
    under our prior caselaw, which held that once legal process
    began, the Fourth Amendment “falls out of the picture,” and
    the detainee must seek a remedy under the Due Process
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    Clause. Manuel v. City of Joilet, 590 F. App’x 641, 643–44 (7th
    Cir. 2015) (quoting Llovet v. City of Chicago, 
    761 F.3d 759
    , 763
    (7th Cir. 2014)).
    The Supreme Court rejected our rule and repeated, “The
    Fourth Amendment … establishes the minimum constitu-
    tional ‘standards and procedures’ not just for arrest but also
    for ensuing ‘detention.’” Manuel, 
    137 S. Ct. at 917
     (quoting
    Gerstein, 
    420 U.S. at 111
    ). Thus, “pretrial detention can violate
    the Fourth Amendment not only when it precedes, but also
    when it follows, the start of legal process in a criminal case.”
    Id. at 918. Manuel stated a viable claim under the Fourth
    Amendment for unlawful detention “because Manuel’s sub-
    sequent weeks in custody were [] unsupported by probable
    cause, and so [] constitutionally unreasonable.” Id. at 919.
    While the Court made clear that the commencement of legal
    process did not spell the end for a Fourth Amendment claim,
    its analysis was still tethered to probable cause. When exactly
    the amendment recedes—and other constitutional protec-
    tions might begin—remains unanswered. 3 Cf. Jenny E. Car-
    roll, The Due Process of Bail, 
    55 Wake Forest L. Rev. 757
    , 788
    (2020) (“One way to read Gerstein is that expanded consider-
    ations in pretrial hearings—such as bail—also expand proce-
    dural protections, including a requirement that the state
    demonstrate a link between its articulated goal and the pro-
    posed deprivation of liberty for the suspect.”); Kellen Funk,
    3 See also Thompson v. Clark, 
    142 S. Ct. 1332
    , 1337 (2022) (holding that
    the Supreme Court’s precedents recognize a malicious-prosecution claim
    under the Fourth Amendment but again not deciding the scope of the
    amendment); id. at n.2 (noting that a malicious-prosecution claim “is
    housed in the Fourth Amendment” and that the analysis might be differ-
    ent under the Due Process Clause).
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    The Present Crisis in American Bail, 128 Yale L.J.F. 1098, 1121
    (2019) (“Gerstein is open to two entirely different readings. …
    Several times in its decision the Court incautiously switched
    from speaking about probable cause for the arrest to probable
    cause for the detention without considering whether different
    standards ought to apply in the days and weeks after an ar-
    rest.”).
    Even before Manuel, the circuits took divergent ap-
    proaches as to when Fourth Amendment protections termi-
    nate. At least one circuit drew the line at a suspect’s arrest,
    regardless of whether the arrest occurred with a warrant. See,
    e.g., Orem v. Rephann, 
    523 F.3d 442
    , 443–44, 446 (4th Cir. 2008),
    abrogated on other grounds by Brooks v. Johnson, 
    924 F.3d 104
    , 114
    n.4 (4th Cir. 2019) (applying the Due Process Clause to an ex-
    cessive-force claim); see also Struve, supra, at 1021. Other cir-
    cuits selected the probable-cause determination. See, e.g.,
    Broussard v. Parish of Orleans, 
    318 F.3d 644
    , 662 (5th Cir. 2003)
    (“As the arrestees do not challenge their initial arrest and con-
    finement … there simply is no demonstration of a Fourth
    Amendment problem.”); Aldini v. Johnson, 
    609 F.3d 858
    , 866
    (6th Cir. 2010) (“Placing the dividing line at the probable-
    cause hearing for those arrested without a warrant does []
    have a basis in Supreme Court precedent.”); Golberg v. Henne-
    pin County, 
    417 F.3d 808
    , 811 (8th Cir. 2005) (“Our opinions …
    suggest[] that the right to release from initially lawful deten-
    tion is based upon the substantive component of the Due Pro-
    cess Clause, rather than the Fourth Amendment.”); Pierce v.
    Multnomah County, 
    76 F.3d 1032
    , 1043 (9th Cir. 1996) (“We
    hold, therefore, that the Fourth Amendment sets the applica-
    ble constitutional limitations on the treatment of an arrestee
    detained without a warrant up until the time such arrestee is
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    released or found to be legally in custody based upon proba-
    ble cause for arrest.”).
    The remaining circuits had adopted the “continuing sei-
    zure” theory, which posits a person is still seized within the
    meaning of the Fourth Amendment after the probable-cause
    determination, extending into pretrial detention. See, e.g.,
    Schneyder v. Smith, 
    653 F.3d 313
    , 321–22 (3d Cir. 2011) (“When
    the state places constitutionally significant restrictions on a
    person’s freedom of movement for the purpose of obtaining
    his presence at a judicial proceeding, that person has been
    seized within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment.” (foot-
    note omitted)); Murphy v. Lynn, 
    118 F.3d 938
    , 946 (2d Cir. 1997)
    (“[W]hile a state has the undoubted authority … to restrict a
    properly accused citizen’s constitutional right to travel out-
    side of the state as a condition of his pretrial release … such
    conditions are appropriately viewed as seizures within the
    meaning of the Fourth Amendment.”).
    After Manuel, there is still no consensus. Compare DeLade
    v. Cargan, 
    972 F.3d 207
    , 212 (3d Cir. 2020) (“We conclude that
    the Fourth Amendment always governs claims of unlawful
    arrest and pretrial detention when that detention occurs be-
    fore the detainee’s first appearance before a court.”), and Lentz
    v. Taylor, 
    2021 WL 5121247
    , *5 (3d Cir. 2021) (unpublished)
    (“The Third Circuit has adopted the continuing seizure theory
    and has further analyzed the parameters of what amounts to
    a pre-trial seizure.”), with Lester v. Roberts, 
    986 F.3d 599
    , 609
    (6th Cir. 2021) (“[T]he presence of probable cause for a prose-
    cution or pretrial detention dooms any Fourth Amendment
    claim.”); see also Page v. King, 
    932 F.3d 898
    , 905 (9th Cir. 2019)
    (“In so holding, we do not speak to the merits of Page’s due
    process claim [premised on a thirteen-year detention].
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    Indeed, the Supreme Court’s recent opinion in Manuel … may
    doom Page’s petition unless he is permitted to amend to al-
    lege a Fourth Amendment violation.”). The Eleventh and
    Fifth Circuits, for their part, analyzed challenges to bail sys-
    tems under different constitutional provisions, but both
    courts based their reasoning on Gerstein and McLaughlin,
    cases interpreting the Fourth Amendment. See Walker, 901
    F.3d at 1265–66 (Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses);
    ODonnell, 892 F.3d at 160 (Due Process Clause).
    Prior to Manuel, we charted the middle course: the Fourth
    Amendment applies until the probable-cause determination,
    at which point the Fourteenth Amendment governs. See, e.g.,
    Currie v. Chhabra, 
    728 F.3d 626
    , 629 (7th Cir. 2013); Ortiz v. City
    of Chicago, 
    656 F.3d 523
    , 530 (7th Cir. 2011); Lopez v. City of Chi-
    cago, 
    464 F.3d 711
    , 719 (7th Cir. 2006). 4 After Manuel, our cases
    are not as clear. We noted, for example, in Mitchell v. City of
    Elgin that the Fourth Amendment might govern the condi-
    tions of pretrial release because of the “significant restrictions
    on liberty” and that some pre-Manuel cases are no longer
    good law. 
    912 F.3d 1012
    , 1016 (7th Cir. 2019). We did not, how-
    ever, decide the scope of a Fourth Amendment “seizure” in
    Mitchell. Id. at 1017. In Pulera v. Sarzant, we repeated our pre-
    Manuel rule that “[b]efore a finding of probable cause, the
    Fourth Amendment protects an arrestee; after such a finding,
    the Fourteenth Amendment protects a pretrial detainee.” 
    966 F.3d 540
    , 549 (7th Cir. 2020). At the same time, we acknowl-
    edged that Manuel might require us to reconsider the dividing
    4We do not cast doubt on our prior holdings that the Fourth Amendment
    governs before a probable-cause determination; we are only concerned
    here with how long this protection continues.
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    line, but because the parties did not ask us to, we declined to
    do so. 
    Id.
     at 549 n.1. Moreover, the difference between the
    Fourth Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment did not
    matter, as “the standards [for the issue were] identical in all
    respects.” Id. at 550.
    Shortly after Pulera, we were presented with a bail chal-
    lenge in Williams v. Dart. 
    967 F.3d 625
     (7th Cir. 2020). There,
    the plaintiffs sued over a county’s bail system, in part, on a
    Fourth Amendment theory. 
    Id.
     at 630–32. The district court
    dismissed the claim, and we reversed. Id. at 631. The case did
    not relate to the probable-cause standard—no one disputed
    that the police had probable cause to detain the plaintiffs. Id.
    at 632. Instead, it centered solely on “the courts’ bail orders
    and on that basis continuing to hold persons already admitted
    to bail without purpose or plan for their release.” Id. We con-
    cluded that the plaintiffs’ claims, nonetheless, fell under the
    Fourth Amendment without recognizing the conflict with our
    prior caselaw. Id. at 636. The Fourth Amendment, we decided,
    requires “that whatever arrangement is adopted [about pro-
    cess bail admissions] not result in seizures that are unreason-
    able in light of the Fourth Amendment’s history and pur-
    poses.” Id. Because the plaintiffs stated a claim of unlawful
    detention, they could proceed. Id. at 637; accord Funk, supra, at
    1121 (Pulera aligns with the more expansive of two readings
    for Gerstein).
    Ultimately, given the far-reaching implications and the
    limited briefing on this issue, we need not decide whether the
    Fourth Amendment applies after a judge has made a proba-
    ble-cause determination to the timing of a bail hearing be-
    cause, assuming that it does, plaintiffs’ claim still fails. In as-
    sessing the constitutionally required timing of a bail hearing
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    under the Fourth Amendment, we consider the traditional in-
    terpretive tools: text, history, tradition, and guidance from
    caselaw.
    2.
    The Fourth Amendment guarantees “[t]he right of the
    people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and ef-
    fects, against unreasonable searches and seizures … and no
    Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause ….” U.S. Const.
    amend. IV. The Amendment’s text establishes the procedure
    for the issuing of a warrant, enshrining a key protection
    against “rash and unreasonable interferences with privacy
    and from unfounded charges of crime,” Gerstein, 
    420 U.S. at 112
    , but makes no mention of bail hearings.
    Plaintiffs have not provided any evidence from history or
    tradition to support their argument. See Atwater v. City of Lago
    Vista, 
    532 U.S. 318
    , 333 (2001) (recognizing that courts con-
    sider history, English decisions, legal treatises and dictionar-
    ies, procedure manuals, and the common-law history when
    interpreting the Fourth Amendment); see also United States v.
    Barr, 
    960 F.3d 906
    , 916 (7th Cir. 2020) (“It is not our job to do
    the legal research that [the parties have] omitted.” (quoting
    Bretford Mfg., Inc. v. Smith Sys. Mfg. Corp., 
    419 F.3d 576
    , 581
    (7th Cir. 2005))). The historical evidence, based on our own
    review, offers little guidance on when bail hearings were typ-
    ically held, and nothing suggests that a suspect had a right to
    a bail hearing within forty-eight hours.
    Bail can be traced back to the early Middle Ages, originat-
    ing from the Anglo-Saxon system of resolving grievances.
    June Carbone, Seeing Through the Emperor’s New Clothes: Redis-
    covery of Basic Principles in the Administration of Bail, 34
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    19 Syracuse L. Rev. 517
    , 519–20 (1983). The Magna Carta prom-
    ised that “[n]o freeman shall be taken or imprisoned … except
    by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land,”
    1215, 17 John c. 39 (Eng.) translated in James Clarke Holt,
    Magna Carta 461 (2d ed. 1992), and the later Statute of West-
    minster allowed some individuals to be released on “suffi-
    cient Surety,” 1275, 3 Edw. C.15 (Eng.). By the end of the sev-
    enteenth century in England, Parliament created an effective
    system that both entitled the defendant to be released on bail
    for certain offenses and protected against excessive bail, the
    latter a right established by the English Bill of Rights (1689),
    but never guaranteed a suspect a right to a hearing within
    forty-eighty hours. Caleb Foote, Coming Constitutional Crisis
    in Bail: I, 
    113 U. Pa. L. Rev. 959
    , 968 (1965). In fact, England’s
    Habeas Corpus Act of 1679, enacted to address “great delays”
    in the bail system, required that a petitioner be “ascertained
    by the judge or court” only within “three days,” sometimes
    longer if the person resided a certain distance away. 31 Car. 2
    c. 2 (Eng. & Wales).
    The colonies largely adopted the English bail system with-
    out requiring hearings within a certain timeframe. See Wil-
    liam F. Duker, The Right to Bail: A Historical Inquiry, 
    42 Alb. L. Rev. 33
    , 79 (1977). Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Maryland,
    and Rhode Island simply provided “the same liberties and
    immunities as if they had been born within the realm of Eng-
    land.” Id. at 81. And the colonial bail systems continued, often
    without change, after the American Revolution. Id. The First
    Congress omitted an explicit right to bail from the Bill of
    Rights, only prohibiting excessive bail. U.S. Const. amend.
    VIII; United States v. Salerno, 
    481 U.S. 739
    , 752 (1987) (“The
    Eighth Amendment addresses pretrial release by providing
    merely that ‘[e]xcessive bail shall not be required.’ This
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    Clause, of course, says nothing about whether bail shall be
    available at all.”). The Judiciary Act of 1789, much like earlier
    English and colonial laws, established a right to bail in non-
    capital criminal cases without detailing a bail hearing’s pro-
    cedure. Foote, supra, at 971.
    At common law, shortly after arrest, a suspect was brought
    before a justice of the peace, who would “examine” the pris-
    oners “to determine whether there was reason to believe the
    prisoner had committed a crime.” Gerstein, 
    420 U.S. at
    114–15.
    If support existed for the arrest, the justice would either jail
    the person or release him on bail pending trial. 
    Id.
     The Fram-
    ers incorporated this model into the Bill of Rights, and the
    practice continued after the Fourteenth Amendment was rat-
    ified. 
    Id.
     at 115–16. But this procedure ensured that a suspect
    would not be detained without a judicial determination of
    probable cause, a bedrock principle of the Fourth Amend-
    ment. This “examination” did not require that a bail hearing
    also be held with a probable-cause determination.
    Pretrial detention, the Supreme Court has explained, re-
    quires balancing different interests. 5 McLaughlin, 
    500 U.S. at 53
    ; see also United States v. Cole, 
    21 F.4th 421
    , 427 (7th Cir. 2021)
    (en banc) (“Time and again, the Supreme Court has held that
    ‘the ultimate touchstone of the Fourth Amendment is reason-
    ableness.’” (quoting Lange v. California, 
    141 S. Ct. 2011
    , 2017
    (2021))). “The consequences of prolonged detention may be
    more serious than the interference occasioned by arrest.
    5 Although we decline to extend McLaughlin’s forty-eight-hour rule for
    probable-cause determinations to bail hearings, we believe that the gen-
    eral considerations articulated by the Supreme Court in Gerstein and
    McLaughlin are germane to our inquiry, just with diminished force.
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    Pretrial confinement may imperil the suspect’s job, interrupt
    his source of income, and impair his family relationships.”
    Gerstein, 
    420 U.S. at 114
    ; see generally Crystal S. Yang, Toward
    an Optimal Bail System, 
    92 N.Y.U. L. Rev. 1399
     (2017). Lost
    earnings for a detained defendant can total tens of thousands
    of dollars over a lifetime. Yang, supra, at 1424. Someone de-
    tained for only three days is seven times more likely to expe-
    rience employment disruption. Alexander M. Holsinger &
    Kristi Holsinger, Analyzing Bond Supervision Survey Data: The
    Effects of Pretrial Detention on Self-Reported Outcomes, 
    82 Fed. Probation 39
    , 43 (2018). Children might go without parental
    figures, and jails expose innocent or low-danger people to in-
    jury through contact with other inmates, guards, and natural
    hazards. See John J. Gibbons & Nicholas de B. Katzenbach,
    Confronting Confinement: A Report of the Commission on Safety
    and Abuse in America’s Prisons, 22 Wash. U. J.L. & Pol’y 385,
    402–03 (2006). The effects of a bail hearing often last: pretrial
    detainees carry the stigma of a criminal conviction, and pre-
    trial detention may increase the chance of conviction and in-
    carceration. Yang, supra, at 1419, 1423.
    At the same time, the “demands of federalism” afford
    states “flexibility and experimentation.” McLaughlin, 
    500 U.S. at 53
     (quoting Gerstein, 
    420 U.S. at 123
    ). States must manage a
    large volume of bail hearings with limited resources. Requir-
    ing hearings to be held on weekends would force govern-
    ments to raise revenue, expend money, and hire additional
    personnel. Before releasing someone on bail, a judge must as-
    sess a suspect’s dangerousness and risk of flight, information
    that the government might not have readily available. See, e.g.,
    
    18 U.S.C. § 3142
    (e)(1). The state has an interest in preventing
    pretrial flight and potential crime. See Yang, supra, at 1429–33.
    Between 1990 and 2004, a bench warrant was issued for failure
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    to appear in court for almost one in four felony defendants.
    Thomas H. Cohen & Brian A. Reaves, Bureau of Justice Statis-
    tics, Pretrial Release of Felony Defendants in State Courts 7
    (2007). 6 One comprehensive study surveying state-court data
    determined that “initial pretrial release leads to substantial in-
    creases in failing to appear for required court appearances.”
    Will Dobbie, et al., The Effects of Pretrial Detention on Conviction,
    Future Crime, and Employment: Evidence from Randomly As-
    signed Judges, 108 Am. Econ. Rev. 201, 226 (2018). “[P]retrial
    release increases the probability of failing to appear in court
    by 15.6 percentage points ….” Id. at 203. Rushing the initial
    bail determination, therefore, may endanger later prosecuto-
    rial success.
    Plaintiffs argue that the absence of a bail hearing within
    forty-eight hours unfairly harms the innocent. Unlike proba-
    ble-cause determinations, however, after forty-eight hours,
    bail-eligible detainees have already had a neutral judge deter-
    mine whether the “facts and circumstances … warrant a pru-
    dent man in believing that the (suspect) has committed” an
    offense. Gerstein, 
    420 U.S. at
    111–12 (quoting Beck v. Ohio, 
    379 U.S. 89
    , 91 (1964)).
    Mandating a bail hearing within forty-eight hours would
    also cast doubt on the constitutionality of the Bail Reform Act
    of 1984. Section 3142(f) provides that a bail hearing “shall be
    held immediately upon the person’s first appearance before
    the judicial officer unless that person, or the attorney for the
    6“Overall, 28% of the defendants who failed to appear in court and had a
    bench warrant issued for their arrest were still fugitives at the end of a 1-
    year study period. This was 6% of all defendants released pretrial ….” Id.
    at 8.
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    Government” seeks a continuance. A government attorney
    can seek a continuance for “three days (not including any in-
    termediate Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday),” and a de-
    fense attorney can request a continuance for “five days (not
    including any intermediate Saturday, Sunday, or legal holi-
    day).” 
    18 U.S.C. § 3142
    (f). Plaintiffs claim that, in contrast to
    federal law, Winnebago County’s bail system permits “delay
    for delay’s sake.” But the Bail Reform Act does not require
    that the government justify the delay—it could be “delay for
    delay’s sake.” An attorney can ask for the continuance for any
    reason.
    Moreover, several states do not provide bail hearings
    within forty-eight hours. See, e.g., Ariz. R. Crim. P. 7.2(b)(4)(B)
    (“[T]he [bail] hearing must be held as soon as practicable, but
    no later than 7 days after the initial appearance unless the de-
    tained defendant moves for a continuance or the court finds
    that extraordinary circumstances exist and delay is indispen-
    sable to the interests of justice.”); 
    Ga. Code Ann. § 17-4-26
    (2021) (“Every law enforcement officer arresting under a war-
    rant shall exercise reasonable diligence in bringing the person
    arrested before the judicial officer authorized to examine,
    commit, or receive bail and in any event to present the person
    arrested before a committing judicial officer within 72 hours
    after arrest.”); La. C. Cr. P. Art. 313(A)(2) (2016) (“If the court
    orders a contradictory hearing, the hearing shall be held
    within five days from the date of determination of probable
    cause, exclusive of weekends and legal holidays.”); N.M. R.
    Crim. P. 5-401(A)(1) (“If a case is initiated in the district court,
    and the conditions of release have not been set by the magis-
    trate or metropolitan court, the district court shall conduct a
    hearing … if the defendant remains in custody, three (3) days
    after the date of arrest if the defendant is being held in the
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    local detention center, or five (5) days after the date of arrest
    if the defendant is not being held in the local detention cen-
    ter”); 
    Ohio Rev. Code Ann. § 2937.222
    (A) (2022) (“On the mo-
    tion of the prosecuting attorney or on the judge’s own motion,
    the judge shall hold a [bail] hearing …. Except for good cause,
    a continuance on the motion of the state shall not exceed three
    court days.”).
    Of course, states can choose to hold all bail hearings within
    forty-eight hours, which may prove easier with technological
    advancements. See, e.g., 
    Ala. Code § 15-13-105
     (2019) (twenty-
    four hours); 
    Alaska Stat. Ann. § 12.30.006
    (b) (2016) (forty-
    eight hours); 
    Colo. Rev. Stat. § 16-4-102
     (2021) (forty-eight
    hours); 
    S.C. Code Ann. § 22-5-510
     (2017) (twenty-four hours);
    Tex. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 17.028(a) (2022) (forty-eight
    hours). But the Fourth Amendment does not compel them to.
    Judges should proceed cautiously when asked to step into the
    shoes of legislators, as we do here.
    ***
    In short, we hold that the Fourth Amendment does not re-
    quire a bail hearing within forty-eight hours after arrest. Fur-
    thermore, we conclude that bail hearings held within sixty-
    eight hours—because suspects were arrested on a Friday (as
    the suspects held for the longest time in this case were)—are
    constitutional under the Fourth Amendment. We leave for an-
    other day whether a longer detention without a bail hearing
    violates the Constitution.
    III.
    For these reasons, we affirm the judgment of the district
    court.