Vien-Phuong Ho v. Recontrust Co. , 840 F.3d 618 ( 2016 )


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  •                    FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    VIEN-PHUONG THI HO,                    No. 10-56884
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    D.C. No.
    v.                   2:10-cv-00741-GW-SS
    RECONTRUST COMPANY, NA,
    subsidiaries of Bank of                     OPINION
    America, N.A.;
    COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS
    INC; BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Central District of California
    George H. Wu, District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted June 5, 2015
    Submission Vacated June 8, 2015
    Resubmitted September 3, 2015
    Pasadena, California
    Filed October 19, 2016
    2                     HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    Before: Alex Kozinski and Consuelo M. Callahan, Circuit
    Judges, and Edward R. Korman,* Senior District Judge.
    Opinion by Judge Kozinski;
    Partial Dissent and Partial Concurrence by Judge Korman
    SUMMARY**
    Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
    Affirming in part and vacating in part the district court’s
    dismissal of an action for failure to state a claim, the panel
    held that the trustee of a California deed of trust securing a
    real estate loan was not a “debt collector” under the Fair Debt
    Collection Practices Act.
    Seeking damages under the FDCPA, the plaintiff alleged
    that the trustee of the deed of trust on her property sent her a
    notice of default and a notice of sale that misrepresented the
    amount of debt she owed. The plaintiff also sought to rescind
    her mortgage transaction under the Truth in Lending Act.
    Disagreeing with the Fourth and Sixth Circuits, and
    agreeing with the California Courts of Appeal, the panel held
    that the trustee was not a “debt collector” subject to damages
    *
    The Honorable Edward R. Korman, Senior District Judge for the
    U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, sitting by
    designation.
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                        3
    under the FDCPA because the trustee was not attempting to
    collect money from the plaintiff. The panel held that the
    object of a non-judicial foreclosure in California is to retake
    and resell the security on the loan. Thus, actions taken to
    facilitate a non-judicial foreclosure, such as sending the
    notice of default and notice of sale, are not attempts to collect
    “debt” as that term is defined by the FDCPA. The panel
    wrote that following a trustee’s sale, the trustee collects
    money from the home’s purchaser, not the original borrower.
    Because the money collected from a trustee’s sale is not
    money owed by a consumer, it is not “debt.” Accordingly,
    the foreclosure notices were an enforcement of a security
    interest, rather than general debt collection under 15 U.S.C.
    § 1692a(6). Citing Sheriff v. Gillie, 
    136 S. Ct. 1594
    (2016),
    the panel declined to create a conflict with state foreclosure
    law in its interpretation of the ambiguous term “debt
    collector.” Accordingly, the panel affirmed the dismissal of
    the FDCPA claim.
    The panel held that even though the district court twice
    dismissed the plaintiff’s TILA rescission claim and she did
    not replead it in her third complaint, it was preserved for
    appeal because the district court instructed her that she would
    be required to allege the ability to repay the loan in order to
    state a rescission claim. The panel held that under Merritt v.
    Countrywide Fin. Corp., 
    759 F.3d 1023
    (9th Cir. 2014),
    decided after the district court’s dismissal, a mortgagor need
    not allege the ability to repay in order to state a rescission
    claim. Accordingly, the panel vacated the dismissal of the
    TILA claim and remanded for consideration of the claim in
    light of Merritt.
    4                HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    The panel affirmed the dismissal of other claims in a
    concurrently filed memorandum disposition.
    Judge Korman dissented in part and concurred in part. He
    wrote that the only reasonable reading of the FDCPA is that
    a trustee pursuing a non-judicial or judicial foreclosure
    proceeding is a debt collector because both proceedings are
    intended to obtain money by forcing the sale of the property
    being foreclosed upon. He also wrote that the FDCPA does
    not interfere with California’s arrangement for conducting
    non-judicial foreclosures in a way that would justify
    nullifying the protections that the FDCPA provides, and the
    FDCPA’s preemption section provides ample room for the
    operation of California law. Judge Korman concurred in the
    remand to the district court for consideration of the TILA
    rescission cause of action.
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                   5
    COUNSEL
    Nicolette Glazer, Esq. (argued), Law Offices of Larry R.
    Glazer, Century City, California, for Plaintiff-Appellant.
    Margaret M. Grignon (argued) and Kasey J. Curtis, Reed
    Smith LLP, Los Angeles, California; Carolee A. Hoover and
    David C. Powell, McGuire Woods LLP, San Francisco,
    California; for Defendants-Appellees.
    Dean T. Kirby, Jr. and Martin T. McGuinn, Kirby &
    Mcguinn, A P.C., San Diego, California, for Amici Curiae
    United Trustee’s Association, California Bankers
    Association, American Legal and Financial Network, Arizona
    Trustee Association and California Mortgage Association.
    Meredith Fuchs, General Counsel, To-Quyen Truong, Deputy
    General Counsel, John R. Coleman, Assistant General
    Counsel, Nandan M. Joshi and Thomas M. McCray-Worrall,
    Attorneys, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
    Washington, D.C., for Amicus Curiae Consumer Financial
    Protection Bureau.
    6                  HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    OPINION
    KOZINSKI, Circuit Judge:
    The principal question in this appeal is whether the trustee
    of a California deed of trust is a “debt collector” under the
    Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).
    FACTS
    Vien-Phuong Thi Ho bought a house in Long Beach using
    funds she borrowed from Countrywide Bank. The loan was
    secured by a deed of trust. A deed of trust involves three
    parties. See Yvanova v. New Century Mortg. Corp., 
    62 Cal. 4th
    919, 926–27 (Cal. 2016) (explaining California deeds of
    trust). The first party is the lender, who is the trust
    beneficiary. The second party is the borrower-trustor, who
    holds equitable title to the property. The third party is the
    trustee, an agent for both the lender and the borrower who is
    authorized to sell the property if the debtor defaults. 
    Id. at 927.
    In this case, the lender was Countrywide, the borrower
    was Ho and the trustee was ReconTrust.
    After Ho began missing loan payments, ReconTrust
    initiated a non-judicial foreclosure. See 
    id. at 926–27
    (detailing California’s complex statutory procedure governing
    non-judicial foreclosures). As the first step in this process,
    ReconTrust recorded a notice of default and mailed this
    notice to Ho. See Cal. Civ. Code § 2924(a)(1). The notice
    advised Ho that she owed more than $20,000 on her loan and
    that she “may have the legal right to bring [her] account in
    good standing by paying all of [her] past due payments” to
    Countrywide. The notice also advised Ho that her home
    “may be sold without any court action.” Ho did not pay up.
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    ReconTrust then took the second step in the process by
    recording and mailing a notice of sale. See Cal. Civ. Code
    §§ 2924(a)(3). This notice advised Ho that her home would
    be auctioned “unless [she took] action to protect [her]
    property.” Following the trustee’s sale, ReconTrust would
    deliver the deed to the purchaser and the proceeds of the sale
    to Countrywide. See 5 Harry D. Miller & Marvin B. Starr,
    Cal. Real Est. § 13:1 (4th ed. 2015). Ho would then lose both
    possession of the house and her right of redemption. 
    Id. §§ 13:266,
    13:267.1
    Ho filed this lawsuit alleging that ReconTrust violated the
    FDCPA by sending her notices that misrepresented the
    amount of debt she owed. See 15 U.S.C. § 1692e(2)(A). Ho
    also sought to rescind her mortgage transaction under the
    Truth in Lending Act (TILA) on the ground that the
    defendants had perpetrated fraud against her. See 15 U.S.C.
    § 1635(a). The district court twice dismissed Ho’s rescission
    claim without prejudice, and Ho did not replead it. The
    district court then granted ReconTrust’s motion to dismiss
    Ho’s FDCPA claims.2
    1
    It’s not clear from the record whether a trustee’s sale ever occurred.
    The notice of sale advised Ho that her home would be sold on a certain
    date. However, Ho’s loan servicer approved a modification of the loan a
    few days prior to that date. The parties say nothing further about the
    trustee’s sale. For our purposes, it doesn’t matter whether the sale took
    place. Sale of the house would not render the case moot because Ho is
    seeking damages.
    2
    The district court also dismissed Ho’s other claims under the
    FDCPA, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act and the
    Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act. We affirm these dismissals in a
    memorandum disposition filed concurrently herewith.
    8                  HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    Ho appeals, arguing that ReconTrust is a “debt collector”
    because the notice of default and the notice of sale constitute
    attempts to collect debt. Because both notices threatened
    foreclosure unless Ho brought her account current, she
    reasonably viewed those documents as an inducement to pay
    up. Ho also argues that her TILA rescission claim should be
    reinstated on appeal because our circuit clarified the
    requirements for such a claim between the district court’s
    dismissal and this appeal. See Merritt v. Countrywide Fin.
    Corp., 
    759 F.3d 1023
    , 1032–33 (9th Cir. 2014).
    DISCUSSION
    I
    The FDCPA subjects “debt collectors” to civil damages
    for engaging in certain abusive practices while attempting to
    collect debts. See §§ 1692d–f, 1692k. The statute’s general
    definition of “debt collector” captures any entity that
    “regularly collects or attempts to collect, directly or
    indirectly, debts owed or due or asserted to be owed or due
    [to] another.” § 1692a(6). Debt is defined as an “obligation
    . . . of a consumer to pay money.” § 1692a(5).
    The FDCPA imposes liability only when an entity is
    attempting to collect debt. 15 U.S.C. § 1692(e). For the
    purposes of the FDCPA, the word “debt” is synonymous with
    “money.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(5). Thus, ReconTrust would
    only be liable if it attempted to collect money from Ho. And
    this it did not do, directly or otherwise. The object of a non-
    judicial foreclosure is to retake and resell the security, not to
    collect money from the borrower. California law does not
    allow for a deficiency judgment following non-judicial
    foreclosure. This means that the foreclosure extinguishes the
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    entire debt even if it results in a recovery of less than the
    amount of the debt. Cal. Civ. Code § 580d(a); see Burnett v.
    Mortg. Elec. Registration Sys., Inc., 
    706 F.3d 1231
    , 1239
    (10th Cir. 2013) (“[A] non-judicial foreclosure does not result
    in a mortgagor’s obligation to pay money––it merely results
    in the sale of property subject to a deed of trust.”); Alaska Tr.,
    LLC v. Ambridge, No. S-14915, 
    2016 WL 852265
    , at *16
    (Alaska Mar. 4, 2016) (Winfree, J., dissenting) (noting that
    non-judicial foreclosure “does not in and of itself collect a
    debt, but rather calls for the vesting and divesting of title to
    real property according to the parties’ prior agreement”
    (internal quotation marks omitted)). Thus, actions taken to
    facilitate a non-judicial foreclosure, such as sending the
    notice of default and notice of sale, are not attempts to collect
    “debt” as that term is defined by the FDCPA.
    The prospect of having property repossessed may, of
    course, be an inducement to pay off a debt. But that
    inducement exists by virtue of the lien, regardless of whether
    foreclosure proceedings actually commence. The fear of
    having your car impounded may induce you to pay off a stack
    of accumulated parking tickets, but that doesn’t make the guy
    with the tow truck a debt collector.
    Our holding today affirms the leading case of Hulse v.
    Ocwen Federal Bank, 
    195 F. Supp. 2d 1188
    , 1204 (D. Or.
    2002), which held that “foreclosing on a trust deed is an
    entirely different path” than “collecting funds from a
    debtor.”3 We acknowledge that two circuits have declined to
    3
    The dissent’s effort to discount Hulse, dissent at 22, doesn’t change
    the fact that Hulse is indeed the leading case for what other courts have
    recognized as the majority position. See, e.g., Aurora Loan Servs., LLC
    v. Kmiecik, 
    992 N.E.2d 125
    , 134 (Ill. App. Ct. 2013) (“The minority view
    10                     HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    follow Hulse. Glazer v. Chase Home Fin. LLC, 
    704 F.3d 453
    , 461 (6th Cir. 2013); Wilson v. Draper & Goldberg,
    P.L.L.C., 
    443 F.3d 373
    , 378–79 (4th Cir. 2006). But we find
    neither case persuasive. The Fourth Circuit in Wilson was
    more concerned with avoiding what it viewed as a “loophole
    in the Act” than with following the Act’s 
    text. 443 F.3d at 376
    . We rely on policy to help interpret statutory language;
    we don’t make it ourselves. The Sixth Circuit’s decision in
    Glazer rests entirely on the premise that “the ultimate purpose
    of foreclosure is the payment of 
    money.” 704 F.3d at 463
    .
    But the FDCPA defines debt as an “obligation of a consumer
    to pay money.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(5) (emphasis added).
    Following a trustee’s sale, the trustee collects money from the
    home’s purchaser, not from the original borrower. Because
    the money collected from a trustee’s sale is not money owed
    by a consumer, it isn’t “debt” as defined by the FDCPA.
    The most plausible reading of the statute is that the
    foreclosure notices were “the enforcement of [a] security
    interest[]” as contemplated by section 1692f(6) rather than
    “debt collection” as contemplated by section 1692a. The
    FDCPA’s general definition of “debt collector,” contained at
    section 1692a(6), applies to entities that “regularly collect[]
    or attempt[] to collect, directly or indirectly, debts owed or
    due or asserted to be owed or due [to] another.” Entities that
    qualify as debt collectors under this general definition are
    debt collectors for purposes of the entire statute. However,
    taken is that the act of foreclosing on a mortgage is the collection of a debt
    according to the FDCPA.”). District courts across our circuit have
    approved of Hulse time and again. See, e.g., Castro v. Exec. Tr. Servs.,
    LLC, No. CV-08-2156-PHX-LOA, 
    2009 WL 438683
    , at *6 (D. Ariz.
    Feb. 23, 2009); Izenberg v. ETS Servs., LLC, 
    589 F. Supp. 2d 1193
    , 1199
    (C.D. Cal. 2008); Ines v. Countrywide Home Loans, Inc., No.
    08cv1267WQH(NLS), 
    2008 WL 4791863
    , at *2 (S.D. Cal. Nov. 3, 2008).
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                              11
    the FDCPA also includes a narrower definition of “debt
    collector.” This narrower definition of the term “also
    includes” entities whose principal business purpose is “the
    enforcement of security interests.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(6).
    This provision would be superfluous if all entities that
    enforce security interests were already included in the
    definition of debt collector for purposes of the entire FDCPA.
    But the relationship between sections 1692a(6) and 1692f(6)
    makes sense if some security enforcers are debt collectors
    only for the limited purposes of section 1692f(6). All parties
    agree that ReconTrust is a debt collector under the narrow
    definition. Ordinarily, section 1692f(6) would protect a
    consumer against the abusive practices of a security enforcer
    who does not fit the broader definition of a debt collector.
    But that doesn’t matter in our case because ReconTrust is not
    accused of conduct prohibited by section 1692f(6). The sole
    question here is whether ReconTrust is a debt collector under
    the general definition—that is, whether ReconTrust
    “regularly collects” debts.
    We do not hold that the FDCPA intended to exclude all
    entities whose principal purpose is to enforce security
    interests. If entities that enforce security interests engage in
    activities that constitute debt collection, they are debt
    collectors. We hold only that the enforcement of security
    interests is not always debt collection. We agree with the
    dissent that the terms are not mutually exclusive. But they
    also aren’t coextensive.4
    4
    The dissent’s extensive reliance on the FDCPA’s judicial venue
    clause, dissent at 34–36, fails for the same reason. The clause indeed
    contemplates that a security enforcer can be a debt collector, but it offers
    no indication that an entity is a debt collector because it enforces a
    security interest.
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    We therefore agree with a central premise of Wilson and
    Glazer: An entity does not become a general “debt collector”
    if its “only role in the debt collection process is the
    enforcement of a security interest.” 
    Wilson, 443 F.3d at 378
    ;
    see 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 464
    . But from there our paths
    diverge. We view all of ReconTrust’s activities as falling
    under the umbrella of “enforcement of a security interest.”
    Under California’s non-judicial foreclosure statutes,
    ReconTrust could not conduct the trustee’s sale until it sent
    the notice of default and the notice of sale. If ReconTrust can
    administer a trustee’s sale without collecting a debt, it must
    be able to maintain that status when it takes the statutorily
    required steps to conduct the trustee’s sale. The right to
    “enforce” the security interest necessarily implies the right to
    send the required notices; to hold otherwise would divorce
    the notices from their context.5
    The Glazer court rejected this view, noting that it couldn’t
    think of anyone other than repossessors “whose only role in
    the collection process is the enforcement of security
    
    interests.” 704 F.3d at 464
    . Glazer explained that a “lawyer
    principally engaged in mortgage foreclosure does not meet
    this criteria [sic], for he must communicate with the debtor
    regarding the debt during the foreclosure proceedings,” but
    5
    Again, a trustee of a deed of trust might become a “debt collector”
    under the general definition if he did something in addition to the actions
    required to enforce a security interest. See 
    Derisme, 880 F. Supp. 2d at 326
    ; see also Kaltenbach v. Richards, 
    464 F.3d 524
    , 528–29 (5th Cir.
    2006). Ho makes no argument that ReconTrust did more than what was
    required by California law to enforce the deed of trust. It recorded and
    mailed notices that were scripted by the California legislature. See Cal.
    Civ. Code § 2924. And, while these notices advised Ho that she could
    avoid foreclosure by paying up, that was required by California law in
    order to conduct the trustee’s sale.
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    this is “not so for repossessors, who typically ‘enforce’ a
    security interest––i.e., repossess or disable property––when
    the debtor is not present, in order to keep the 
    peace.” 704 F.3d at 464
    . We find this distinction unpersuasive. The
    FDCPA itself recognizes that repossessors will communicate
    with debtors.6 Enforcement of a security interest will often
    involve communications between the forecloser and the
    consumer. When these communications are limited to the
    foreclosure process, they do not transform foreclosure into
    debt collection.
    The notices at issue in our case didn’t request payment
    from Ho.7 They merely informed Ho that the foreclosure
    process had begun, explained the foreclosure timeline,
    apprised her of her rights and stated that she could contact
    Countrywide (not ReconTrust) if she wished to make a
    payment. These notices were designed to protect the debtor.
    6
    Section 1692a(6) provides that enforcers of security instruments
    are debt collectors only for the limited purposes of section 1692f. Section
    1692f(6) prohibits “[t]aking or threatening to take any nonjudicial action
    to effect dispossession or disablement of property” (emphasis added). By
    referring to “threats” and not just actions, the statute contemplates that
    repossessors will communicate with debtors. The fact that Congress went
    out of its way to expose enforcers of security interests to liability for
    “threatening” debtors shows that such enforcers were expected to do more
    than merely repossess property in the middle of the night.
    7
    The dissent makes much of the fact that the notice of trustee’s sale
    included a disclaimer stating that ReconTrust “is a debt collector
    attempting to collect a debt.” This disclaimer isn’t sufficient to show that
    ReconTrust is a debt collector. See Guerrero v. RJM Acquisitions LLC,
    
    499 F.3d 926
    , 932 (9th Cir. 2007) (per curiam); see also Gburek v. Litton
    Loan Servicing LP, 
    614 F.3d 380
    , 386 n.3 (7th Cir. 2010) (similar). “Debt
    collector” isn’t an elective category. It’s determined objectively, based on
    the activities of the entity in question.
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    They are entirely different from the harassing
    communications that the FDCPA was meant to stamp out.
    Thus, we agree with the California Courts of Appeal that
    “giving notice of a foreclosure sale to a consumer as
    required by the [California] Civil Code does not constitute
    debt collection activity under the FDCPA.” Pfeifer v.
    Countrywide Home Loans, Inc., 
    150 Cal. Rptr. 3d 673
    , 684
    (Cal. Ct. App. 2012); see Fonteno v. Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.,
    
    176 Cal. Rptr. 3d 676
    , 690–92 (Cal. Ct. App. 2014).8
    Even though the notices didn’t explicitly request payment,
    Ho contends that they still qualify as debt collection because
    they pressured her to send money to Countrywide. See
    
    Burnett, 706 F.3d at 1239
    . But, as we’ve explained, the
    enforcement of a security interest often creates an incentive
    to pay the underlying debt. If this were sufficient to
    transform the enforcement of security interests into debt
    collection, then all security enforcers would be debt
    collectors. This would render meaningless the FDCPA’s
    carefully drawn distinction between debt collectors and
    enforcers of security interests, and expand the scope of the
    FDCPA well past the boundary of clear congressional intent
    and common sense.
    An additional consideration weighs in favor of
    ReconTrust: Holding trustees liable under the FDCPA would
    subject them to obligations that would frustrate their ability
    to comply with the California statutes governing non-judicial
    foreclosure. ReconTrust lists a half dozen conflicts between
    8
    We find it significant that California expressly exempts trustees of
    deeds of trust from liability under the Rosenthal Act, the state analogue of
    the FDCPA. See Cal. Civ. Code. § 2924(b). The California legislature
    clearly views such trustees as materially different from debt collectors.
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    the FDCPA and California law. For example, the FDCPA
    prohibits debt collectors from communicating with third
    parties about the debt absent consent from the debtor. 15
    U.S.C. § 1692c(b). But California law requires the trustee to
    announce all trustee’s sales in a newspaper and mail the
    notice of default to various third parties. See Cal. Civ. Code
    §§ 2924b(c)(1)–(2), 2924f(b). Moreover, the FDCPA
    prohibits debt collectors from directly communicating with
    debtors if the debt collector knows that the debtor is
    represented by counsel. 15 U.S.C. § 1692c(a)(2). California
    law requires the trustee to mail the notices of default and sale
    directly to the borrower, and makes no exception for
    borrowers who are represented by counsel. Cal. Civ. Code.
    §§ 2924b(b)(1), 2924f(c)(3). In both of these cases, a trustee
    could not comply with California law without violating the
    FDCPA.
    Things would become even more complicated if the
    consumer elected to dispute the debt pursuant to the FDCPA.
    In such a case, a trustee would be required to “cease
    collection of the debt” until he obtained verification of that
    debt. 15 U.S.C. § 1692g(b). California law compels trustees
    to mail a copy of the notice of default within ten business
    days after recording it. Cal. Civ. Code § 2924b(b)(1). If the
    consumer disputes his debt as soon as it is recorded, the
    trustee would have to seek verification of the debt, and would
    be unable to mail the notice until the debt was verified. In the
    likely event that such verification took longer than ten days,
    the trustee would miss California’s statutory deadline for
    mailing out the notice. And if verification requests or other
    hassles resulted in a delay of a year or longer, the trustee
    would be required to restart the foreclosure process. See
    § 2924g(c)(2).
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    ReconTrust’s amici suggest that holding trustees liable as
    debt collectors would “literally prevent [California’s
    foreclosure] system from functioning.” Brief for United
    Trustee’s Ass’n et al. as Amici Curiae Supporting
    Defendants-Appellees, Ho v. ReconTrust (No. 10-56884),
    
    2015 WL 1020492
    , at *4. In an amicus brief filed in support
    of Ho, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau conceded
    that “a conflict may exist between state and federal law.”
    Brief for Consumer Financial Protection Bureau as Amicus
    Curiae Supporting Plaintiff-Appellant, Ho v. ReconTrust (No.
    10-56884), 
    2015 WL 4735787
    , at *14.9 There can be no
    doubt that labeling ReconTrust a debt collector under the
    broader definition of the FDCPA would create sustained
    friction between the federal statute and the state scheme.
    Earlier this year, the Supreme Court instructed us that the
    FDCPA should not be interpreted to interfere with state law
    unless Congress clearly intended to displace that law. Sheriff
    v. Gillie, 
    136 S. Ct. 1594
    , 1602 (2016). Sheriff involved an
    Ohio statute that authorized the state Attorney General to
    retain independent contractors to collect debts owed to the
    state. The Attorney General authorized these independent
    contractors to send debt collection notices on his letterhead.
    
    Id. at 1599.
    Several recipients of these notices sued the
    contractors for violating the FDCPA, claiming that their use
    9
    At our invitation, the agency filed an amicus brief arguing that all
    trustees of deeds of trust are debt collectors under section 1692a(6). The
    agency has not exercised its authority to promulgate a rule interpreting the
    term “debt collector.” Thus, we accord deference to the agency’s
    interpretation of that phrase only to the extent that we find that
    interpretation persuasive. See United States v. Mead Corp., 
    533 U.S. 218
    ,
    226–29 (2001) (citing Skidmore v. Swift & Co., 
    323 U.S. 134
    , 139–40
    (1944)). We are unpersuaded by the agency’s reading of the statute and
    therefore do not defer to it.
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    of the Attorney General’s letterhead was misleading. See
    15 U.S.C. § 1692e. The Supreme Court held that the notices
    were not deceptive and therefore ruled in favor of the
    independent contractors. In reaching that conclusion, the
    Court “note[d] a federalism concern.” 
    Sheriff, 136 S. Ct. at 1602
    . Because Ohio’s attempt to collect on its debts is “a
    core sovereign function,” the Court was loath to interpret the
    FDCPA to interfere with the debt collection methods Ohio
    had chosen to adopt. 
    Id. It held
    that there was no cause “to
    construe federal law in a manner that interferes with ‘States’
    arrangements for conducting their own governments.’” 
    Id. (quoting Nixon
    v. Missouri Mun. League, 
    541 U.S. 125
    , 140
    (2004)).
    Sheriff’s efforts to protect Ohio law from federal
    encroachment reflect the Supreme Court’s strong fidelity to
    the “federalism canon.” See Gregory v. Ashcroft, 
    501 U.S. 452
    , 460 (1991). According to the Court, “federal legislation
    threatening to trench on the States’ arrangements for
    conducting their own governments should be treated with
    great skepticism, and read in a way that preserves a State’s
    chosen disposition of its own power, in the absence of the
    plain statement Gregory requires.” 
    Nixon, 541 U.S. at 140
    .
    This presumption applies with particular force when
    Congress legislates “in a field which the States have
    traditionally occupied.” Rice v. Santa Fe Elevator Corp., 
    331 U.S. 218
    , 230 (1947); see Medtronic, Inc. v. Lohr, 
    518 U.S. 470
    , 485 (1996). That admonition is especially relevant to
    our case, as there is little doubt that foreclosure is a
    traditional area of state concern. See BFP v. Resolution Trust
    Corp., 
    511 U.S. 531
    , 544 (1994) (characterizing the
    regulation of foreclosures as “an essential state interest”);
    Rank v. Nimmo, 
    677 F.2d 692
    , 697 (9th Cir. 1982) (noting
    that “mortgage foreclosure has traditionally been a matter for
    18                   HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    state courts and state law”). It follows that “the presumption
    against preemption remains in effect where [a federal statute]
    is alleged to preempt state foreclosure laws.” Higley v.
    Flagstar Bank, 
    910 F. Supp. 2d 1249
    , 1257 n.7 (D. Or. 2012).
    We find no comfort in the dissent’s suggestion that the
    conflicts between California law and the FDCPA can be
    mitigated by consent between the parties to a mortgage deal.
    Dissent at 40–44. The fact that parties may be able to draft
    their way around conflicts renders them conflicts no less.
    Relegating future parties to the uncertain process of adding
    contractual terms may itself upset a state’s carefully drawn
    scheme of notice and disclosure; additional efforts or more
    complex terms are themselves costs of that conflict. The
    point of the federalism canon isn’t to resolve ambiguities so
    that we can, with a little more effort, enjoy a brackish mix of
    state and federal law. The point is to keep the federal
    government from creating any conflict with traditional state
    lawmaking absent clear congressional intent.
    When one interpretation of an ambiguous federal statute
    would create a conflict with state foreclosure law and another
    plausible interpretation would not, we must adopt the latter
    interpretation.10 The statutory phrase “debt collector” is
    notoriously ambiguous, causing our sister circuits to divide as
    to whether foreclosure-related activities constitute debt
    10
    See 
    Sheriff, 136 S. Ct. at 1602
    ; Brief for Michigan and 11 Other
    States as Amici Curiae Supporting Petitioners at 4–17, Sheriff v. Gillie,
    
    136 S. Ct. 1594
    (2016) (No. 15-338) (arguing that the federalism canon
    should be employed when interpreting ambiguous language in the
    FDCPA).
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                             19
    collection.11 Even courts holding that foreclosure is debt
    collection have recognized that the term “debt collector” is
    cryptic. E.g., 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 460
    ; Ambridge, 
    2016 WL 852265
    , at *11 (observing that “the FDCPA could certainly
    be clearer on the question”). Given this ambiguity, we
    decline to “construe federal law in a manner that interferes
    with [California’s] arrangements for conducting” non-judicial
    foreclosures. 
    Sheriff, 136 S. Ct. at 1602
    (internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    II
    The district court twice dismissed Ho’s TILA rescission
    claim without prejudice, and Ho didn’t replead it in her third
    complaint. We have held that claims dismissed without
    prejudice and not repleaded are not preserved for appeal; they
    are instead considered “voluntarily dismissed.” See Lacey v.
    Maricopa Cty., 
    693 F.3d 896
    , 928 (9th Cir. 2012). Here,
    however, the district court didn’t give Ho a free choice in
    whether to keep repleading the TILA rescission claim.
    Rather, the court said that if Ho wished to replead the claim
    she “would be required to allege that she is prepared and able
    to pay back the amount of her purchase price less any down-
    payment she contributed and any payments made since the
    11
    Compare 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 461
    (holding that all “mortgage
    foreclosure is debt collection” for the purposes of the FDCPA); 
    Wilson, 443 F.3d at 378
    –79 (similar); and Piper v. Portnoff Law Assocs., 
    Ltd., 396 F.3d at 235
    –36 (3d Cir. 2005) (similar), with 
    Burnett, 706 F.3d at 1239
    (suggesting that non-judicial foreclosure is not debt collection for
    purposes of the FDCPA, but refusing to so hold); Warren v. Countrywide
    Home Loans, Inc., 342 F. App’x 458, 461 (11th Cir. 2009) (holding that
    “foreclosing on a home is not debt collection for purposes” of the
    FDCPA); and Brown v. Morris, 243 F. App’x 31, 35 (5th Cir. 2007)
    (holding that “foreclosure is not per se FDCPA debt collection”).
    20                 HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    time of her purchase.” The judge concluded that if Ho “is not
    able to make that allegation in good faith, she should not
    continue to maintain a TILA rescission claim.” It’s unclear
    whether the judge meant this as benevolent advice or a stern
    command. But a reasonable litigant, particularly one
    proceeding pro se, could have construed this as a strict
    condition, one that might have precipitated the judge’s ire or
    even invited a sanction if disobeyed. Ho could not or would
    not commit to pay back the loan, and dropped the claim in her
    third complaint.
    The district court based its condition on Yamamoto v.
    Bank of N.Y., which gave courts equitable discretion to
    “impose conditions on rescission that assure that the borrower
    meets her obligations once the creditor has performed its
    obligations.” 
    329 F.3d 1167
    , 1173 (9th Cir. 2003). But, after
    the district court dismissed Ho’s claims, we held that a
    mortgagor need not allege the ability to repay the loan in
    order to state a rescission claim under TILA that can survive
    a motion to dismiss. Merritt v. Countrywide Fin. Corp., 
    759 F.3d 1023
    , 1032–33 (9th Cir. 2014). Ho argues that her
    rescission claims were properly preserved for appeal and
    should be reinstated.
    Where, as here, the district court dismisses a claim and
    instructs the plaintiff not to refile the claim unless he includes
    certain additional allegations that the plaintiff is unable or
    unwilling to make, the dismissed claim is preserved for
    appeal even if not repleaded. A plaintiff is the master of his
    claim and shouldn’t have to choose between defying the
    district court and making allegations that he is unable or
    unwilling to bring into court.
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                      21
    This rule is a natural extension of our holding in Lacey.
    The Lacey rule—which displaced our circuit’s longstanding
    and notably harsh rule that all claims not repleaded in an
    amended complaint were considered waived—was motivated
    by two principal concerns: judicial economy and fairness to
    the 
    parties. 693 F.3d at 925
    –28. Those concerns apply here.
    We see no point in forcing a plaintiff into a drawn-out contest
    of wills with the district court when, for whatever reason, the
    plaintiff chooses not to comply with a court-imposed
    condition for repleading. We remand to the district court for
    consideration of Ho’s TILA rescission claim in light of
    Merritt v. Countrywide Fin. 
    Corp., 759 F.3d at 1032
    –33.
    AFFIRMED in part, VACATED and REMANDED in
    part. No costs.
    KORMAN, District Judge, dissenting in part and concurring
    in part:
    The majority opinion opens with the principal question
    presented by this case: “[W]hether the trustee of a California
    deed of trust is a ‘debt collector’ under the Fair Debt
    Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).” Maj. Op. at 6. After a
    discussion of the issue, the majority concludes by observing
    that the phrase “debt collector” is “notoriously ambiguous”
    and that, given this ambiguity, we should refuse to construe
    it in a manner that interferes with California’s arrangements
    for conducting nonjudicial foreclosures. Maj. Op. at 18–19.
    My reading of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
    (“FDCPA”), consistent with the manner in which it has been
    construed by every other circuit that has addressed whether
    22                HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    foreclosure procedures are debt collection subject to the
    FDCPA, suggests that the only reasonable reading is that a
    trustee pursuing a nonjudicial foreclosure proceeding is a debt
    collector. See Kaymark v. Bank of Am., N.A., 
    783 F.3d 168
    ,
    179 (3d Cir. 2015), cert. denied, 
    136 S. Ct. 794
    (2016); Glazer
    v. Chase Home Fin. LLC, 
    704 F.3d 453
    , 461–63 (6th Cir.
    2013); Wilson v. Draper & Goldberg, P.L.L.C., 
    443 F.3d 373
    ,
    376–77 (4th Cir. 2006); see also Alaska Tr., LLC v.
    Ambridge, 
    372 P.3d 207
    , 213–216 (Alaska 2016); Shapiro &
    Meinhold v. Zartman, 
    823 P.2d 120
    , 123–24 (Colo. 1992)
    (en banc). The same is true of a judicial foreclosure
    proceeding—an alternative available in California. See Coker
    v. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A., 
    364 P.3d 176
    , 178 (Cal.
    2016). Both are intended to obtain money by forcing the sale
    of the property being foreclosed upon.
    The majority “affirms” what it characterizes as the
    “leading case” of Hulse v. Ocwen Federal Bank, FSB, 195 F.
    Supp. 2d 1188 (D. Or. 2002), which held that “foreclosing on
    a trust deed is an entirely different path” than “collecting
    funds from a debtor,” because “[p]ayment of funds is not the
    object of the foreclosure action. Rather the lender is
    foreclosing its interest in the property.” 
    Id. at 1204.
    The
    reasoning in Hulse, if one could call it that, is contained in
    two short paragraphs, and it is the leading case only in the
    number of appellate cases that have by name rejected its
    reasoning. See, e.g., 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 460
    , 463;
    Kaltenbach v. Richards, 
    464 F.3d 524
    , 528 (5th Cir. 2006);
    
    Wilson, 443 F.3d at 376
    .
    This is not surprising. The suggestion in Hulse that a
    foreclosure proceeding is one in which “the lender is
    foreclosing its interest in the property” is flatly wrong. A
    foreclosure proceeding is one in which the interest of the
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                       23
    debtor (and not the creditor) is foreclosed in a proceeding
    conducted by a trustee who holds title to the property and
    who then uses the proceeds to retire all or part of the debt
    owed by the borrower. See Cal. Civ. Code § 2931; Yvanova
    v. New Century Mortg. Corp., 
    365 P.3d 845
    , 850 (Cal. 2016).
    Any excess funds raised over the amount owed by the
    borrower (and costs associated with the foreclosure) are paid
    to the borrower. See Cal. Civ. Code § 2924k; see also Jesse
    Dukeminier & James E. Krier, Property 590 (2d ed. 1988).
    Thus, contrary to the holding in Hulse, “[t]here can be no
    serious doubt that the ultimate purpose of foreclosure is the
    payment of money.” 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 463
    . Nor, because
    the FDCPA defines a “debt collector” as one who collects or
    attempts to collect, “directly or indirectly,” debts owed to
    another, 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(6), does it matter that the money
    collected at a foreclosure sale does not come directly from the
    debtor.
    Because the majority makes Hulse the foundation of its
    analysis, it papers over Hulse’s irredeemably flawed analysis
    by suggesting that it comes close to being the seminal case in
    the area. Nevertheless, it can only do so by relying on an
    intermediate Illinois appellate court decision for the
    proposition that “Hulse is indeed the leading case for what
    other courts have recognized as the majority position.” Maj.
    Op. at 9 n.3 (citing Aurora Loan Servs., LLC v. Kmiecik, 
    992 N.E.2d 125
    , 134 (Ill. App. Ct. 2013)). The Illinois appellate
    court decision did not do its own “head count.” Instead it
    cited Glazer v. Chase Home Fin. LLC, 
    704 F.3d 453
    , 464 (6th
    Cir. 2013), for the proposition that “[t]he minority view taken
    is that the act of foreclosing on a mortgage is the collection of
    a debt according to the FDCPA.” Aurora Loan Servs., 
    LLC, 992 N.E.2d at 134
    . Glazer, in turn, said no more than a
    contrary view has been “adopted by a majority of district
    24                HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    courts.” 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 460
    . We do not decide cases on
    the basis of “head counts” of district court cases, although we
    should at least be concerned when we reach a result that has
    been rejected by every circuit that has decided the issue in a
    published opinion. See Maj. Op. at 19 n.11 (citing Glazer v.
    Chase Home Fin. LLC, 
    704 F.3d 453
    , 461 (6th Cir. 2013);
    Wilson v. Draper & Goldberg, P.L.L.C., 
    443 F.3d 373
    ,
    378–79 (4th Cir. 2006); Piper v. Portnoff Law Assocs., Ltd.,
    
    396 F.3d 227
    , 235–36 (3d Cir. 2005)).
    After analyzing the majority’s construction of the
    FDCPA, I discuss below each of the conflicts conjured by the
    majority and show that the FDCPA does not interfere with
    California’s arrangement for conducting nonjudicial
    foreclosures in a way that would justify nullifying the
    protections that the FDCPA provides. More significantly, the
    language of the FDCPA’s preemption section provides ample
    room for the operation of California law without the need for
    exempting an entire category of debt collectors. Thus, it
    provides that the FDCPA “does not annul, alter, or affect, or
    exempt any person subject to the provisions of this
    subchapter from complying with the laws of any State with
    respect to debt collection practices, except to the extent that
    those laws are inconsistent with any provision of this
    subchapter, and then only to the extent of the inconsistency.”
    15 U.S.C. § 1692n.
    While this suggests a desire to interfere as little as
    possible “with the laws of any State,” it gives effect to the
    concern that the “primary reason why debt collection abuse
    is so widespread is the lack of meaningful legislation on the
    State level.” S. Rep. No. 95-382, at 2 (1977). “Congress
    enacted the FDCPA despite the fact that some states already
    had procedural requirements for debt collectors . . . in place,
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                      25
    because it ‘decided to protect consumers who owe money by
    adopting a different, and in part more stringent, set of
    requirements that would constitute minimum national
    standards for debt collection practices.’” 
    Piper, 396 F.3d at 236
    n.11 (quoting Romea v. Heiberger & Assocs., 
    163 F.3d 111
    , 118 (2d Cir. 1998)). Indeed, one of the declared
    purposes of the FDCPA is “to promote consistent State
    action to protect consumers against debt collection abuses.”
    15 U.S.C. § 1692(e).
    This case affords no basis for undermining the minimum
    national standards that Congress has adopted. Nor does it
    justify ignoring the rule we have followed consistently that,
    as “a broad remedial statute,” Gonzales v. Arrow Fin. Servs.,
    LLC, 
    660 F.3d 1055
    , 1060 (9th Cir. 2011), the FDCPA must
    be liberally construed in favor of the consumer. Hernandez
    v. Williams, Zinman & Parham PC, No. 14-15672, — F.3d
    —, 
    2016 WL 3913445
    , at *8 (9th Cir. July 20, 2016); see also
    Johnson v. Riddle, 
    305 F.3d 1107
    , 1117 (10th Cir. 2002).
    Indeed, the foreclosure process conducted here was entirely
    consistent with both California law and the FDCPA. The
    complaint here does not derive from any conflict between
    these statutes. Instead, the complaint alleges that the trustee
    under the Deed of Trust, ReconTrust, sent the debtor, Ho, a
    notice that was misleading and false because it listed an
    inaccurate amount due. The cause of action that the FDCPA
    provides for this alleged misconduct does not conflict with
    California law. If California law does not provide such a
    remedy, the FDCPA cause of action simply supplements it,
    just as Congress intended.
    26                 HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    I. The Definition of “Debt Collector”
    I turn first to the arguments based on the definition of the
    phrase “debt collector.” The FDCPA provides, in relevant
    part, that “[t]he term ‘debt’ means any obligation or alleged
    obligation of a consumer to pay money.” 15 U.S.C.
    § 1692a(5). “The term ‘consumer’ means any natural person
    obligated or allegedly obligated to pay any debt.” 
    Id. § 1692a(3).
    There is no dispute that Ho is obligated under a
    promissory note to pay the lender the purchase price of her
    property. Section 1692a(6) defines the term “debt collector”
    to mean “any person who uses any instrumentality of
    interstate commerce or the mails in any business the principal
    purpose of which is the collection of any debts, or who
    regularly collects or attempts to collect, directly or indirectly,
    debts owed or due or asserted to be owed or due another.”
    There is no dispute that ReconTrust seeks to enforce Ho’s
    obligation to pay the money owed on the promissory note,
    and that it engages in such activities generally, with the
    degree of regularity described in section 1692a(6).
    Nevertheless, the majority argues that, “[f]or the purposes
    of the FDCPA, the word ‘debt’ is synonymous with ‘money.’
    Thus, ReconTrust would only be liable if it attempted to
    collect money from [the borrower] Ho.” Maj. Op. at 8 (citing
    15 U.S.C. § 1692a(5)). Because California law does not
    permit deficiency judgments in cases where there has been a
    nonjudicial foreclosure, no money will be collected directly
    from Ho. Consequently, “[t]he object of a non-judicial
    foreclosure is to retake and resell the security, not to collect
    money.” 
    Id. This suggestion
    cannot be right.
    The object of a nonjudicial foreclosure is not to “retake
    and resell” the debtor’s home. The only way real property
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                        27
    that is foreclosed upon can be retaken by the creditor is to
    purchase it at a foreclosure sale. See Cal. Civ. Code
    § 2924g(a). Moreover, the purpose of a foreclosure
    proceeding is to collect money. Thus, a judicial decree of
    foreclosure directs “an officer of the court to sell the land at
    a public sale, pay the debt to the lender, and pay any amount
    exceeding the debt to the borrower. . . . Except for the power
    to foreclose privately, the deed of trust is treated in almost all
    significant respects as a mortgage.” Dukeminier & 
    Krier, supra, at 590
    –91; see also Dikeman v. Jewel Gold Mining
    Co., 
    13 F.2d 118
    , 118 (9th Cir. 1926) (“Foreclosure is a
    remedy by which the property covered by the mortgage may
    be subjected to sale for the payment of the demand for which
    the mortgage stands as security . . . .” (quoting Flanders v.
    Aumack, 
    51 P. 447
    , 450 (Or. 1897))).
    The nonjudicial foreclosure process in California is
    illustrative. “Nonjudicial foreclosure proceedings must be
    conducted by auction in a fair and open manner, with the
    property sold to the highest bidder.” Dreyfuss v. Union Bank
    of Cal., 
    11 P.3d 383
    , 390 (Cal. 2000); see also Cal. Civ. Code
    § 2924g(a). The object of the nonjudicial foreclosure
    procedure is to sell the real property pledged as security thus
    raising money to retire all or part of the debt owed by the
    borrower pursuant to the promissory note. See A. James
    Casner & W. Barton Leach, Cases and Text on Property 737
    (2d ed. 1969) (“To whatever extent foreclosure puts value
    into [the mortgagee’s] hands, the debt of [the mortgagor] to
    [the mortgagee] is discharged . . . .”). Indeed, any excess
    funds raised over the amount owed by the borrower (and
    costs associated with the foreclosure) are paid to the
    borrower. See Cal. Civ. Code § 2924k; see also Dukeminier
    & 
    Krier, supra, at 590
    .
    28                    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    The argument that ReconTrust cannot be a debt collector
    because it may not collect money directly from the debtor
    overlooks the disjunctive language of the definition of debt
    collector, as well as the inchoate conduct included in that
    definition. Thus, a debt collector is one who “attempts to
    collect, directly or indirectly, debts . . . owed or due another.”
    15 U.S.C. § 1692a(6). The nonjudicial foreclosure procedure
    accomplishes this in one of two alternative ways.
    First, the creditor, through the trustee, may collect money
    indirectly through a nonjudicial foreclosure sale. The same
    is true of a judicial foreclosure, although it is not conducted
    by a trustee. The fact that the money may not come directly
    from the borrower does not alter the fact that any funds raised
    would come as a result of the elimination of the debtor’s
    interest and equity in the property. This clearly constitutes
    the indirect collection of a debt, and the majority does not
    explain why not. Second, the money may be collected
    directly, because the language in the notices sent to the
    borrower may prompt her—perhaps the better word is scare
    her—to exercise her rights of reinstatement or redemption by
    paying the arrears on the promissory note at the risk losing
    the roof over her head. See 
    Yvanova, 365 P.3d at 850
    (“If . . .
    the borrower does not exercise his or her rights of
    reinstatement or redemption, the property is sold at auction to
    the highest bidder.”).1 Or, as the majority aptly puts it, the
    notices tell the debtor “that she could avoid [this fate] by
    1
    “The mortgagor’s interest in the property is known as the ‘equity,’
    a shortened form of ‘equity of redemption’ which also pays linguistic
    homage to the generations of chancellors who have been moved to protect
    debtors from overreaching moneylenders.” Dukeminier & 
    Krier, supra, at 589
    .
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                            29
    paying up.” Maj. Op. at 12 n.5. The same is true of a
    complaint seeking a judicial foreclosure.2
    Thus, in this case, ReconTrust commenced the
    foreclosure proceeding, “as an agent of the Beneficiary [the
    creditor] under a Deed of Trust,” by the filing of a notice of
    default served on Ho warning that she was in default on the
    payments due on the promissory note she signed on June 23,
    2007, in the amount of $548,000. She was told that the
    amount of the default was $22,782.68 and would increase
    until her account became current, that she may be able “to
    bring [her] account in good standing [and avoid foreclosure]
    by paying all of [her] past due payments plus permitted costs
    and expenses,” and that she would “have only the legal right
    to stop the sale of [her] property by paying the entire amount
    demanded by [her] creditor.” She was also told that, “[w]hile
    [her] property [was] in foreclosure, [she] still must pay other
    obligations (such as insurance and taxes) required by [her]
    note and deed of trust or mortgage.”
    The notice of trustee’s sale again told Ho that she was “IN
    DEFAULT” and advised her that, “UNLESS YOU TAKE
    ACTION TO PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY, IT MAY BE
    SOLD AT A PUBLIC SALE.” The next paragraph told
    2
    The principal difference between a judicial and a nonjudicial
    foreclosure is that in the latter, with some exception, see Bank of
    Kirkwood Plaza v. Mueller, 
    294 N.W.2d 640
    , 642–43 (N.D. 1980), a
    deficiency judgment against the debtor may be obtained for the difference
    between the money collected at the foreclosure sale and the amount of the
    debt still owed on the promissory note. Such an effort against the debtor
    in a nonjudicial foreclosure is precluded because forgiveness of the
    remainder of the debt is a tradeoff in return for “an inexpensive and
    efficient remedy against a defaulting borrower.” See 
    Yvanova, 365 P.3d at 850
    .
    30                 HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    Ho that ReconTrust would “sell [her house] on 8/28/2009
    at 01:00 PM, At the front entrance to the Pomona
    Superior Courts Building.” Significantly, the notice of
    trustee’s sale contained the following, in conformity with
    section 1692e(11): “RECONTRUST COMPANY, N.A. is a
    debt collector attempting to collect a debt. Any information
    obtained will be used for that purpose.”
    While the majority suggests that ReconTrust’s description
    of itself does not necessarily establish that it was engaging in
    debt-collection activity, Maj. Op. at 13 n.7, the Second
    Circuit has held that a debtor receiving this letter cannot
    safely disregard it on that basis, Hart v. FCI Lender Servs.,
    Inc., 
    797 F.3d 219
    , 227 (2d Cir. 2015). Instead, “the Letter
    clearly announces itself an attempt to collect a debt, and its
    other text only emphasizes the plausibility and gravity of that
    announcement. We see no reason why we should not take it
    at its word . . . .” Id.; see also McLaughlin v. Phelan
    Hallinan & Schmieg, LLP, 
    756 F.3d 240
    , 246 (3d Cir. 2014)
    (attaching significance to the fact that a law firm described
    itself as a debt collector in a letter to the debtor); Reese v.
    Ellis, Painter, Ratterree & Adams, LLP, 
    678 F.3d 1211
    , 1217
    (11th Cir. 2012) (same). Indeed, in the present case, the
    notices may have succeeded in obtaining money from Ho
    directly because, as the majority observes, the loan service
    provider approved a loan modification agreement prior to the
    date of the foreclosure sale. Maj. Op. at 7 n.1. The
    modification, which would take effect upon the payment of
    $12,000, provided for a $36,000 increase in the amount of the
    mortgage and a reduction in the monthly interest payment.
    The majority does not, and cannot, deny the effect of the
    language in the notices sent to Ho. Nor does it even address
    the language of section 1692a(6) that defines “debt collector”
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                       31
    as one who attempts to collect “indirectly” debts owed to
    another. Instead, it makes a number of arguments predicated
    on the assumption that the mortgage foreclosure process
    involves the enforcement of a security interest. Thus, it
    begins its defense of ReconTrust’s in terrorem
    communications by arguing that, if those communications
    succeed in obtaining the payment of a debt, it is akin to the
    simple fear of having your car impounded because you had
    accumulated parking tickets. This fear, the majority suggests,
    “doesn’t make the guy with the tow truck a debt collector.”
    Maj. Op. at 9. I leave it to the reader to evaluate whether the
    activities of a trustee of a deed of trust, which I have
    described above, can fairly be analogized to those of a tow
    truck driver who simply pulls up to a car on the street and
    repossesses it.
    Perhaps because the answer is obvious, the majority then
    argues that the FDCPA intended to exclude entities whose
    principal purpose is to enforce security interests, and because
    a nonjudicial foreclosure proceeding comes within the
    definition of enforcement of a security interest, ReconTrust
    is not a debt collector within the meaning of the FDCPA.
    Maj. Op. at 12–13. Moreover, for this reason, ReconTrust
    was entitled to engage in communications necessary to
    effectuate the enforcement of a security interest. 
    Id. at 12.
    This argument fails for a number of reasons.
    First, ReconTrust is a debt collector, because it directly or
    indirectly collects money owed by the debtor to the creditor.
    Under these circumstances, it is irrelevant that the nonjudicial
    process entailed in a mortgage foreclosure proceeding may
    have also constituted the enforcement of a security interest.
    See Kaltenbach v. Richards, 
    464 F.3d 524
    , 528–29 (5th Cir.
    2006) (“[T]he entire FDCPA can apply to a party whose
    32                HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    principal business is enforcing security interests but who
    nevertheless fits § 1629a(6)’s general definition of a debt
    collector.”). Second, the FDCPA expressly contains six
    exclusions from its definition of “debt collector” but does not
    exclude entities who enforce security interests. 15 U.S.C.
    §§ 1692a(6)(A)–(F). Moreover, section 1692a(6), which
    contains the definition of “debt collector” and which I repeat
    here with the additional language upon which the majority
    relies, does not support the argument that one who enforces
    a security interest—and more particularly, the obligation of
    a debtor to pay money owed pursuant to a promissory note
    through a foreclosure proceeding—does not come within the
    definition of debt collector. Specifically, section 1692a(6)
    provides that:
    [t]he term “debt collector” means any person
    who uses any instrumentality of interstate
    commerce or the mails in any business the
    principal purpose of which is the collection of
    any debts, or who regularly collects or
    attempts to collect, directly or indirectly,
    debts owed or due or asserted to be owed or
    due another. . . . For the purpose of section
    1692f(6) of this title, such term also includes
    any person who uses any instrumentality of
    interstate commerce or the mails in any
    business the principal purpose of which is the
    enforcement of security interests.
    (Emphasis added). Section 1692f(6)—to which the last
    sentence, emphasized above, makes reference—proscribes
    “[t]aking or threatening to take any nonjudicial action to
    effect dispossession or disablement of property if—(A) there
    is no present right to possession of the property claimed as
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    collateral through an enforceable security interest; (B) there
    is no present intention to take possession of the property; or
    (C) the property is exempt by law from such dispossession or
    disablement.”
    The majority argues that the last sentence of section
    1692a(6), which subjects security enforcers to the foregoing
    proscriptions, “would be superfluous if all entities that
    enforce security interests were already included in the
    definition of debt collector for the purpose of the entire
    FDCPA.” Maj. Op. at 11. In other words, what point would
    there be in saying that the term “debt collector” also includes
    enforcers of security interests if security enforcers were
    already included in the general definition? The answer is
    obvious. Not all entities that engage in the enforcement of
    security interests do so in the same way. See, e.g., 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 464
    . There are entities that enforce security
    interests yet who do not typically engage in activity that
    would also come within the definition of “debt collection.”
    The tow truck driver to which the majority alludes is one
    example. See Maj. Op. at 9. Moreover, if they “attempt to
    collect, directly or indirectly, debts . . . owed or due
    another”—in the manner ReconTrust did here–they do not do
    so with sufficient regularity to bring them within the
    definition of “debt collector.” See Pflueger v. Auto Finance
    Group, Inc., No. CV–97–9499 CAS(CTX), 
    1999 WL 33740813
    , at *4–6 (C.D. Cal. Apr. 26, 1999).
    Significantly, the concept of “dispossession or
    disablement of property” does not easily fit a mortgage
    foreclosure proceeding, and is more commonly associated
    with the taking of personal property. Because nonjudicial
    foreclosure proceedings do not involve the dispossession or
    disabling of personal property, the proscriptions contained in
    34                   HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    section 1692f(6) do not apply to those proceedings. Thus, if
    the majority is correct, then it would follow that a trustee of
    a deed of trust could undertake any of the unfair and abusive
    conduct proscribed in the FDCPA, because it would not come
    within the definition of “debt collector,” nor would it be a
    security enforcer dispossessing or disabling property.3
    Congress hardly could have intended such a result.
    Indeed, another provision of the FDCPA provides
    compelling support for the proposition that mortgage
    foreclosures come within the definition of debt collection,
    even though they may involve security interests. Thus, the
    judicial venue clause, the purpose of which is to require that
    a foreclosure proceeding be filed in the place “most
    convenient and least expensive for the debtor,” 
    Kaltenbach, 464 F.3d at 528
    , provides that “[a]ny debt collector who
    brings any legal action on a debt against any consumer
    shall—(1) in the case of an action to enforce an interest in
    real property securing the consumer’s obligation, bring such
    action only in a judicial district or similar legal entity in
    which such real property is located,” 15 U.S.C. § 1692i(a)(1)
    (emphasis added).4
    3
    The definitional section of the FDCPA does not contain a definition
    of the term “security enforcer.” See 15 U.S.C. § 1692a. The meaning
    must therefore be derived from the manner in which the term is used,
    namely, one who dispossesses or disables personal property.
    4
    Section 1692i(a)(2), permits any other action, including an action
    for a deficiency judgment, to be filed in the district “(A) in which such
    consumer signed the contract sued upon; or (B) in which such consumer
    resides at the commencement of the action.” Because the difference
    between the amount obtained at the foreclosure sale and the amount due
    on the promissory note cannot be known, an action for a deficiency
    judgment arising out of a judicial foreclosure proceeding cannot be
    commenced until after the foreclosure sale is over.
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    The clause is particularly significant for two reasons.
    First, Congress did not say, as one would expect it to have
    said under the analysis employed by the majority, that any
    security enforcer who brings a mortgage foreclosure
    proceeding must do so in the designated venue. Instead, its
    use of the term “any debt collector” demonstrates that
    Congress understood that a mortgage foreclosure
    proceeding—an action to enforce an interest in real property
    securing the debtor’s obligation—constitutes debt collection
    within the meaning of the FDCPA. Indeed, if, as the majority
    suggests, mortgage foreclosure proceedings constitute the
    enforcement of a security interest and not debt collection,
    then the venue clause would be rendered meaningless,
    because security enforcers seeking a judicial foreclosure
    would not be subject to the limitation on venue contained in
    section 1692i(a)(1).
    The majority argues that the venue clause “contemplates
    that a security enforcer can be a debt collector, but it offers no
    indication that an entity is a debt collector because it enforces
    a security interest.” Maj. Op. at 11 n.4. I agree that an entity
    may not be a debt collector merely because it enforces a
    security interest. See 
    Glazer, 704 F.3d at 463
    –64; 
    Piper, 396 F.3d at 236
    . I rely on the venue clause because it
    demonstrates that Congress understood that mortgage
    foreclosure proceeding constitutes a unique way to enforce a
    security interest, and supports the broader proposition that a
    foreclosure proceeding meets the definition of debt
    collection. 
    Kaymark, 783 F.3d at 179
    . Thus, the Third
    Circuit has observed that “[n]owhere does the FDCPA
    exclude foreclosure actions from its reach. On the contrary,
    foreclosure meets the broad definition of ‘debt collection’
    36                HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    under the FDCPA, and it is even contemplated in various
    places in the statute.” 
    Id. (citing, inter
    alia, 15 U.S.C.
    § 1692i).
    This interpretation is supported by the legislative history
    of the FDCPA. In particular, the Senate Report on the
    FDCPA noted that “the committee does not intend the
    definition to cover . . . the collection of debts, such as
    mortgages and student loans, by persons who originated such
    loans.” S. Rep. No. 95-382, at 3 (1977) (emphasis added).
    This language strongly suggests a mortgage or deed of trust
    can be a debt, and an entity like ReconTrust can be a debt
    collector because it did not originate the loan to Ho. While
    I share the late Justice Scalia’s lack of confidence in such
    legislative history, see Hon. Antonin Scalia, A Matter of
    Interpretation: Federal Courts and the Law 32–34 (Amy
    Gutmann ed. ,1997), I cite it here only because it is consistent
    with the language and structure of the FDCPA that I have
    discussed above, and because, accepting the majority’s
    suggestion that the definition of debt collector is ambiguous,
    our precedents resort to this legislative history, see
    Hernandez, 
    2016 WL 3913445
    , at *4; see also Int’l Ass’n of
    Machinists & Aerospace Workers, Local Lodge 964 v. BF
    Goodrich Aerostructures Grp., 
    387 F.3d 1046
    , 1051–52 (9th
    Cir. 2004).
    I come now to the last part of the argument of the
    majority that proceeds on the assumption that ReconTrust is
    a security enforcer and, as such, “must be able to maintain
    that status” when it does communicate with the debtor by
    taking “the statutorily required steps to conduct the trustee’s
    sale.” Maj. Op. at 12. This is another way of saying that
    California may override the protections afforded by the
    FDCPA by prescribing the steps necessary to commence a
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                      37
    foreclosure proceeding, even if those steps would otherwise
    qualify ReconTrust as a debt collector.
    There is no support in the language of the FDCPA for this
    pronouncement. Indeed, we have held that a complaint
    served on a debtor is a communication subject to the FDCPA,
    Donohue v. Quick Collect, Inc., 
    592 F.3d 1027
    , 1031–32 (9th
    Cir. 2010), and there are any number of cases that have held
    that communications necessary to commence foreclosure
    proceedings, judicial or nonjudicial, may come within the
    definition of debt collection, see 
    Kaymark, 783 F.3d at 176
    –78 (holding that a foreclosure complaint is a
    communication subject to the FDCPA); Alaska 
    Tr., 372 P.3d at 217
    –18 (explaining that a notice required to initiate
    foreclosure proceedings could “at the same time be an
    attempt to collect a debt”); see also 
    Romea, 163 F.3d at 116
    (holding that the fact that state law required a debt collector
    to send a letter to commence eviction proceedings was
    “wholly irrelevant to the requirements and applicability of the
    FDCPA”).
    Perhaps recognizing the force of the arguments in favor
    of holding that the FDCPA does apply to trustees of a deed of
    trust, the majority appears to acknowledge that a trustee could
    become a debt collector by doing something “in addition to
    the actions required to enforce a security interest.” Maj. Op.
    at 12 n.5. The majority does not say what additional action
    a trustee of a deed of trust would have to take in order to
    make him a debt collector. Certainly, it could not mean
    additional egregious actions in which some debt collectors
    engage, such as banging on the debtor’s door or calling her
    incessantly. Under the holding of the majority, a trustee
    engaged in conducting a nonjudicial foreclosure proceeding
    is not collecting a debt. Thus, the FDCPA would not prohibit
    38                 HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    it from engaging in these activities. Moreover, the third
    amended complaint alleges that “defendant and/or its agents
    unlawfully trespassed [Ho’s] property . . . by dispatching
    agents who entered upon the subject property, banging on
    doors in a gangster type fashion, posting false notices to let
    tenants on the premises know that Plaintiff [was] in loan
    default and demanding that plaintiff should call BAC, with
    intent to scare, intimidate, and harass plaintiff, and plaintiff’s
    tenants.”
    Of course, the conduct prohibited by the FDCPA includes
    conduct that is far less egregious than banging on doors and
    calling debtors incessantly. Nevertheless, Congress regarded
    them as sufficiently problematic to warrant including them in
    the list of activities that constitute harassment or abuse, see
    15 U.S.C. § 1692d, or are “unfair or unconscionable,” 
    id. § 1692f.
    Thus, among the activities that the FDCPA lists as
    abusive is “[t]he advertisement for sale of any debt to coerce
    payment of the debt.” 
    Id. § 1692d(4).
    And among the unfair
    or unconscionable means to attempt to collect the debt is
    “[c]ommunicating with a consumer regarding a debt by post
    card.” 
    Id. at §
    1692f(7). As the Second Circuit has held,
    “that Congress cited the industry’s worst practices when
    passing the FDCPA does not limit the statute’s purview to
    those practices, when the text reaches well beyond. [The
    parties] provide[] no reason to believe that Congress did not
    intend the FDCPA to offer broad protection to debtors . . . .”
    
    Hart, 797 F.3d at 228
    .
    Moreover, even if the service of the notices and their
    content were required by California law, the liability attached
    to ReconTrust’s activity does not arise from either the service
    of the notices or their required script. Instead, it arises from
    the fact that the notices that “ReconTrust had sent [Ho] were
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                       39
    misleading and false because the amounts listed on them”
    reflected inaccurate amounts due. California did not require
    ReconTrust to provide false and misleading notices. The
    mere fact that California requires an otherwise accurate
    notice to be sent to commence a nonjudicial foreclosure
    proceeding should not relieve the trustee from complying
    with the FDCPA.
    In sum, Congress has provided a definition of a debt
    collector. Once ReconTrust’s activities brought it within that
    definition, it was a debt collector, as ReconTrust
    acknowledged in the notice of sale it sent to Ho in which it
    characterized itself as a debt collector seeking to enforce a
    debt. See 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(6). This conclusion is also
    consistent with the opinion of the Consumer Financial
    Protection Bureau (“CFPB”), which we solicited and which
    the majority rejects, Maj. Op. at 16 n.9, “that entities
    satisfying the general definition of ‘debt collector’ are subject
    to the entire [FDCPA],” Brief of Amicus Curiae Consumer
    Financial Protection Bureau in Support of Appellant and
    Reversal at 18 n.8, 
    2015 WL 4735787
    , at *18 n.8.
    II. The FDCPA Does Not Interfere with California’s
    Arrangements for Nonjudicial Foreclosures
    I turn now to the claim that, because the term “debt
    collector” is said to be ambiguous, it should not be construed
    in a manner that would frustrate ReconTrust’s ability to
    comply with California’s procedures for nonjudicial
    foreclosures. Maj. Op. at 14. Indeed, in this case, it is not
    disputed that ReconTrust complied in every respect with
    California law. Nevertheless, citing several alleged conflicts
    between the FDCPA and California foreclosure law,
    ReconTrust and its amici have warned that treating trustees
    40                HO V. RECONTRUST CO.
    as debt collectors would “literally prevent [California’s
    foreclosure] system from functioning.” Brief of Amici
    Curiae United Trustee’s Ass’n et al. at 4, 
    2015 WL 1020492
    ,
    at *4. This overwrought statement is simply false. Indeed,
    this case demonstrates how readily the California foreclosure
    system can function alongside the FDCPA. Three circuits,
    covering twelve states, have held that foreclosure proceedings
    are debt collection under the FDCPA, see Kaymark v. Bank
    of Am., N.A., 
    783 F.3d 168
    , 179 (3d Cir. 2015); Glazer v.
    Chase Home Fin. LLC, 
    704 F.3d 453
    , 461–63 (6th Cir. 2013);
    Wilson v. Draper & Goldberg, P.L.L.C., 
    443 F.3d 373
    ,
    376–77 (4th Cir. 2006); see also Piper v. Portnoff Law
    Assocs., Ltd., 
    396 F.3d 227
    , 234–36 (3d Cir. 2005), along
    with the Supreme Courts of Alaska and Colorado. See Alaska
    Tr., LLC v. Ambridge, 
    372 P.3d 207
    , 213–216 (Alaska 2016);
    Shapiro & Meinhold v. Zartman, 
    823 P.2d 120
    , 123–24
    (Colo. 1992) (en banc). Neither ReconTrust nor its amici
    have provided any evidence that these holdings have had any
    effect—much less that the sky has fallen in—on the
    foreclosure laws of those states. Moreover, the argument
    ignores the fact that the FDCPA’s preemption clause
    expressly leaves in place “the laws of any State with respect
    to debt collection practices, except to the extent that those
    laws are inconsistent with any provision of [the FDCPA], and
    then only to the extent of the inconsistency.” 15 U.S.C.
    § 1692n. Indeed, it also contains a mechanism for the
    exemption of certain debt collection practices that do not
    precisely match those of the FDCPA. See 15 U.S.C. § 1692o.
    I now proceed to address each of the provisions of the
    FDCPA that allegedly interfere with California’s
    arrangements for conducting nonjudicial foreclosure
    proceedings. None of them have the effect that the majority
    attributes to them. I observe at the outset the majority does
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    not dispute that the first two alleged conflicts between
    California law and the FDCPA may be avoided “by consent
    between the parties to a mortgage deal.” Maj. Op. at 18.
    Such consent was procured here. Nevertheless, the majority
    argues that “[t]he fact that parties may be able to draft their
    way around conflicts renders them conflicts no less.
    Relegating future parties to the uncertain process of adding
    contractual terms may itself upset a state’s carefully drawn
    scheme of notice and disclosure; additional efforts or more
    complex terms are themselves costs of that conflict.” 
    Id. at 18.
    I do not understand to what the majority is referring
    when it speaks of an “uncertain process of adding contractual
    terms.” The language of the Deed of Trust is not the result of
    the addition of terms to a bargained-for agreement. Instead,
    the Deed is a “take it or leave it” form to the terms of which
    the borrower must agree if he or she wants a loan. Thus, the
    pre-printed Deed of Trust, which is signed only by the
    borrower, describes itself as follows: “CALIFORNIA-Single
    Family-Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac UNIFORM INSTRUMENT
    WITH MERS.”
    Indeed, as I will show below, the alleged conflicts are, to
    borrow the Yiddish term, gornisht mit gornisht—nothing with
    nothing. This is particularly so with respect to the majority’s
    invocation of the so-called “federalism canon,” because in the
    two instances in which California law allegedly conflicts with
    the FDCPA, the net effect of the borrower’s consent is to
    permit the foreclosure to go forward in the manner prescribed
    by California law. Thus, in the first instance, the debtor
    agrees to allow the trustee to announce the foreclosure sale in
    a newspaper, as well as mail the notices of default to various
    third parties, which is required by California law. Moreover,
    in the second instance, the debtor agrees to allow the trustee
    to mail the notices of default and sale directly to him or her,
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    as required by California law. While the majority argues that
    “[t]he point of the federalism canon isn’t to resolve
    ambiguities so that we can, with a little more effort, enjoy a
    brackish mix of state and federal law,” Maj. Op. at 18, this
    “brackish mix” is exactly what Congress had in mind when
    it drafted the preemption clause of the FDCPA to expressly
    permit the application of both federal and state law. I
    provide some brief background detail in the discussion that
    follows.
    1. While FDCPA prohibits debt collectors from
    communicating with third parties without the debtor’s
    consent, California law mandates that trustees announce any
    sale in a newspaper, as well as mail notices of default to
    various third parties. Maj. Op. at 15. As the majority
    acknowledges, debt collectors may communicate with third
    parties once they have the debtor’s consent. 
    Id. (citing 15
    U.S.C. § 1692c(b)). Here, Ho provided such consent by
    signing the Deed of Trust, which stated that, if the lender
    invoked its power of sale, the “Trustee shall cause this notice
    [of sale] to be recorded in each county in which any part of
    the Property is located. Lender or Trustee shall mail copies
    of the notice as prescribed by Applicable Law to Borrower
    and to the other persons prescribed by Applicable Law.” The
    effect of this was to permit ReconTrust to comply with the
    California law mandating certain public disclosure of a
    foreclosure sale.
    2. The majority also observes that, while the FDCPA
    prohibits debt collectors from communicating directly with
    debtors if the collector knows that the debtor has counsel,
    under California law, a trustee must mail the notices of
    default and sale to the borrower directly. Maj. Op. at 15. The
    FDCPA, however, allows consumers to consent to direct
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                      43
    communication. 15 U.S.C. § 1692c(a). By signing the Deed
    of Trust, Ho consented to the “Lender or Trustee [mailing]
    copies of the notice as prescribed by [California] Law to
    Borrower.”
    3. Having disposed of the majority’s concerns that these
    “complex terms” undermine the federalism canon, I now
    proceed to the remaining conflict between California law and
    the FDCPA relied upon by the majority. The majority warns
    that, if a debtor decided to dispute the debt pursuant to the
    FDCPA, the trustee would have to cease any debt collection
    activities until it verified the debt. Maj. Op. at 15. If such
    verification took more than ten days, the trustee would miss
    the statutory deadline for mailing the notice of default. 
    Id. Moreover, if
    the verification took over a year, the trustee
    would have to restart the foreclosure process. 
    Id. This scenario
    is entirely far-fetched, because a debt
    collector could easily satisfy this verification requirement
    within ten days and thus avoid delaying the nonjudicial
    foreclosure process. Indeed, if it took longer, it would be the
    trustee’s own fault. Specifically, we have “decline[d] to
    impose . . . a high threshold” on debt collectors attempting to
    verify disputed debts and have explained that, “[a]t the
    minimum, ‘verification of a debt involves nothing more than
    the debt collector confirming in writing that the amount being
    demanded is what the creditor is claiming is owed.’” Clark
    v. Capital Credit & Collection Servs., Inc., 
    460 F.3d 1162
    ,
    1173–74 (9th Cir. 2006) (quoting Chaudhry v. Gallerizzo,
    
    174 F.3d 394
    , 406 (4th Cir. 1999)). Indeed, in an
    unpublished opinion, we recently affirmed a district court’s
    ruling that a debt collector satisfied section 1692g(b) by
    sending a letter to the debtor that included the debtor’s
    address, the date of the deed of trust, and the name and
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    address of the original creditor. Zhang v. Countrywide Home
    Loans, Inc., 601 F. App’x 567, 567 (9th Cir. 2015)
    (unpublished), aff’g No. 11-cv-3475 (NC), 
    2012 WL 1245682
    , at *11 (N.D. Cal. Apr. 13, 2012). So much for the
    conflicts that the majority conjures.
    In sum, none of the conflicts identified would stop the
    California foreclosure system from functioning. On the
    contrary, the FDCPA’s preemption clause expressly preserves
    State law and avoids excluding compliance with it “except to
    the extent that those laws are inconsistent with any provision
    of [the FDCPA], and then only to the extent of the
    inconsistency.” 15 U.S.C. § 1692n.5 This makes all the more
    baffling the majority’s reliance on Sheriff v. Gillie, 
    136 S. Ct. 1594
    (2016) for the proposition that “the Supreme Court [has]
    instructed us that the FDCPA should not be interpreted to
    interfere with state law unless Congress clearly intended to
    displace that law.” Maj. Op. at 16. Congress did just that in
    the preemption clause. This consideration aside, the Sheriff
    opinion has no bearing on the issue presented in this case.
    In Sheriff, the Attorney General of Ohio was vested with
    the authority to collect debts owed to state-owned agencies
    and 
    instrumentalities. 136 S. Ct. at 1598
    –1599. Carrying out
    this responsibility, the Attorney General appointed private
    attorneys as independent contractors, naming them special
    counsel to act on his behalf. 
    Id. at 1599.
    Consistent with the
    5
    The CFBP does not concede, as the majority suggests, “a conflict
    may exist between state and federal law.” Maj. Op. at 16. Instead, citing
    to the FDCPA’s preemption clause, the CFPB explained, “[t]hat a conflict
    may exist between state and federal law is no basis for state law to trump
    or somehow excuse compliance with federal law.” Brief of Amicus
    Curiae Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in Support of Appellant and
    Reversal at 14, 
    2015 WL 4735787
    , at *14.
    HO V. RECONTRUST CO.                      45
    direction of the Attorney General, one of the law firms sent
    the plaintiff debt-collection letters on the Attorney General’s
    letterhead. 
    Id. The signature
    block of each of the letters had
    the name and address of the signatory and the designation
    “special” or “outside” counsel to the Attorney General. 
    Id. Each letter
    also listed the sender as a debt collector seeking
    payment for debts to a state institution. 
    Id. The Supreme
    Court held that the use of this letterhead did not offend the
    FDCPA’s general prohibition against false or misleading
    representations. 
    Id. at 1600–01.
    Nor did it falsely represent
    that communication was “‘authorized, issued, or approved’
    by a State,” because “the Attorney General authorized—
    indeed required—special counsel to use his letterhead in
    sending debt collection communications.” 
    Id. at 1601
    (quoting 15 U.S.C. §1692e(9)). And finally it held that
    special counsel, in sending letters on the Attorney General’s
    letter head, did not violate the provision prohibiting debt
    collectors from collecting in a name other than their true
    name. 
    Id. at 1601
    –02. “Far from misrepresenting special
    counsel’s identity, letters sent by special counsel accurately
    identif[ied] the office primarily responsible for collection of
    the debt (the Attorney General), special counsel’s affiliation
    with that office, and the address (special counsel’s law firm)
    to which payment should be sent.” 
    Id. at 1602.
    After concluding that there was no violation of the
    FDCPA, the Supreme Court noted a “federalism concern,”
    namely, that “Ohio’s enforcement of its civil code—by
    collecting money owed to it—[is] a core sovereign function.”
    
    Id. (alteration in
    original) (citation and internal quotation
    marks omitted). Because the special counsel the Attorney
    General appointed to assist him in collecting money owed to
    the state did not engage in conduct violating the FDCPA,
    there was “no cause, in this case, to construe federal law in a
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    manner that interferes with ‘States’ arrangements for
    conducting their own governments.’” 
    Id. (quoting Nixon
    v.
    Mo. Mun. League, 
    541 U.S. 125
    , 140 (2004)). The
    application of the provisions of the FDCPA to debt collectors
    who are not acting on behalf of the state does not involve the
    slightest interference with the core sovereign functions of the
    State of California.
    Finally, the FDCPA provides a method for resolving
    conflicts with state law that the majority ignores. Section
    1692o states that the CFPB “shall by regulation exempt from
    the requirements of this subchapter any class of debt
    collection practices within any State if the [CFPB] determines
    that under the law of that State that class of debt collection
    practices is subject to requirements substantially similar to
    those imposed by this subchapter, and that there is adequate
    provision for enforcement.” The Second Circuit discussed
    section 1692o in Romea. There, a defendant law firm sent a
    form letter to a plaintiff-debtor pursuant to state law,
    demanding that she pay her back rent. 
    Romea, 163 F.3d at 113
    . In finding that the defendant was a debt collector, the
    Second Circuit cited to an older version of section 1692o,
    which granted the Federal Trade Commission the authority to
    provide exemptions, to explain that, “if the protections
    afforded tenants under New York’s Article 7 process do
    result in ‘requirements substantially similar to those imposed
    by [the FDCPA],’ then New York may petition the Federal
    Trade Commission to promulgate regulations that exempt
    § 711 notices from the FDCPA.” 
    Id. at 118
    n. 11 (alteration
    in original); see also FTC Notice of Maine Exemption From
    The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 60 Fed. Reg. 66972,
    66973 (Dec. 27, 1995) (granting Maine’s request for an
    exemption from certain provisions of the FDCPA for certain
    debt collection practices because “the level of protection to
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    consumers under the Maine Act is substantially equivalent to
    that provided in the FDCPA”). Rather than asking this Court
    to adopt an unnatural reading of the term “debt collector,”
    ReconTrust and its amici should ask California to petition the
    CFPB for an exemption to the statute.
    In sum, the position of the majority is that, because the
    phrase “debt collector” is ambiguous, we should refuse to
    construe it in a manner that conflicts with California’s
    arrangements for conducting nonjudicial foreclosures. While
    my reading of the phrase differs from that of the majority,
    even if the majority is correct, the provisions of the FDCPA
    do not interfere with the operation of nonjudicial foreclosure
    proceedings in California. Because the majority applies
    California law in a way that overrides the arrangements that
    Congress has made for the protection of debtors, I
    respectfully dissent from the affirmance of the judgment
    dismissing the FDCPA claim. I concur in the remand to the
    district court for consideration of Ho’s Truth in Lending Act
    rescission cause of action.
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 10-56884

Citation Numbers: 840 F.3d 618

Filed Date: 10/19/2016

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 1/12/2023

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