United States v. Anthony Evans , 883 F.3d 1154 ( 2018 )


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  •                       FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,                       Nos. 16-10310
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                      16-10311
    v.                               D.C. Nos.
    4:08-cr-00011-JSW
    ANTHONY EVANS,                                 4:16-cr-00012-JSW
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Northern District of California
    Jeffrey S. White, District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted December 5, 2017
    San Francisco, California
    Filed February 28, 2018
    Before: MILAN D. SMITH, JR., and SANDRA S.
    IKUTA, Circuit Judges, and JOHN D. BATES, * District
    Judge.
    Opinion by Judge Milan D. Smith, Jr.;
    Dissent by Judge Ikuta
    *
    The Honorable John D. Bates, Senior District Judge for the United
    States District Court for the District of Columbia, sitting by designation.
    2                   UNITED STATES V. EVANS
    SUMMARY **
    Criminal Law
    The panel affirmed a sentence for violating conditions of
    supervised release, vacated a sentence for being a felon in
    possession of a firearm, and remanded for the district court
    to correct conditions of supervised release.
    The panel held that the district court did not err in
    applying an enhancement under USSG § 2A2.2(a) and
    (b)(2)(A) for use of a firearm in the commission of an
    aggravated assault.
    The panel rejected most of the defendant’s challenges to
    supervised release Special Condition 5, which imposed
    several gang-related constraints, but the panel remanded for
    the district court to strike the final sentence, which explicitly
    removes the requirement that the government prove mens
    rea in a future revocation proceeding.
    The panel agreed with the defendant that three of his
    standard conditions of supervised release – which the
    Sentencing Commission has since amended to address their
    vagueness – are unconstitutionally vague. The panel
    remanded for the district court to remove the phrase “meet
    other family responsibilities” from Standard Condition 4.
    The panel remanded for the district court to remove an
    ambiguity in Standard Condition 5, which requires the
    defendant to work “regularly” at a lawful occupation. The
    panel remanded for the district court to modify Standard
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It
    has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    Condition 13 – which requires the defendant, as directed by
    the probation officer, to notify third parties of risks that may
    be occasioned by his criminal record or personal history or
    characteristics – in order to provide some determinate
    guidance to the defendant’s probation officer, as well as to
    the defendant.
    The panel did not need to decide whether it should read
    into Fed. R. Crim. P. 32.1 a requirement that a district court
    in a revocation proceeding resolve factual disputes or
    determine explicitly that such resolution is unnecessary. The
    panel held that any error by the district court in failing to
    resolve a disputed factual allegation made by the probation
    officer in the revocation proceeding was harmless.
    Dissenting as to Part II.B of the opinion, Judge Ikuta
    wrote that rather than follow the Supreme Court’s guidance
    that a statute is not unconstitutionally vague merely because
    it lacks mathematical certainty, the majority erroneously
    invalidates three standard conditions of supervised release
    that have been applied for three decades without giving rise
    to any confusion.
    4                UNITED STATES V. EVANS
    COUNSEL
    Shilpi Agarwal (argued) and Carmen Smarandoiu, Assistant
    Federal Public Defenders; Steven G. Kalar, Federal Public
    Defender; Office of the Federal Public Defender, San
    Francisco, California; for Defendant-Appellant.
    Susan B. Gray (argued), Assistant United States Attorney; J.
    Douglas Wilson, Chief, Appellate Division; Brian J. Stretch,
    United States Attorney; United States Attorney’s Office, San
    Francisco, California; for Plaintiff-Appellee.
    OPINION
    M. SMITH, Circuit Judge:
    Anthony Evans appeals from the sentence imposed
    because of his conviction for being a felon in possession of
    a firearm and ammunition, in violation of 18 U.S.C.
    § 922(g)(1). He also appeals the sentence imposed for
    violating the conditions of his supervised release in another
    case. Evans argues that the district court erred in applying a
    sentencing enhancement under the aggravated assault
    sentencing guideline, in imposing certain conditions of
    supervised release, and in failing to resolve Evans’s factual
    objection to an allegation that he had violated his conditions
    of supervised release on another occasion. We vacate and
    remand in part, and affirm in part.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    Surveillance camera footage shows that Evans was
    sitting in the passenger seat of a double-parked car on July
    15, 2015, in the Bayview district of San Francisco when a
    man in a black sweatshirt approached and spoke to him.
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    Evans’s girlfriend, Jamellah Ali-Suluki, left the driver’s seat
    of the car and walked out of the camera frame. The man in
    the black sweatshirt walked away and conferred with another
    man, who bent through the front passenger door of a
    neighboring blue car, and then began shooting at Evans.
    After firing a number of shots, five of which struck Evans,
    the man appeared to pass something to the man in the black
    sweatshirt, and then fled. The man in the black sweatshirt
    closed the front passenger door of the blue car and looked
    toward Evans. When Evans got out of the passenger seat of
    his car, the man in the black sweatshirt fled down the
    sidewalk. Evans fired several shots at him. Ali-Suluki then
    returned to the car and drove Evans to the hospital.
    In July of 2015, Evans was on supervised release for an
    earlier felony conviction. After the shooting, the Probation
    Office claimed that Evans had violated the terms of his
    supervised release by possessing a firearm, in violation of
    18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). Separately, Evans was also charged
    with being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition
    in violation of the same statute. Evans pled guilty to the
    charge and admitted the corresponding supervised release
    violation. The Probation Office also alleged that Evans
    committed aggravated assault when he fired his weapon on
    July 15, and that he had previously violated the conditions
    of his supervised release by keeping a gun at his residence in
    April 2015. Evans denied both of these allegations.
    At sentencing, the district court did not address the April
    2015 allegation. Because of Evans’s criminal history and
    the seriousness of possessing a firearm, the court sentenced
    Evans to the maximum two-year sentence for the supervised
    release violation, to be served consecutively to the court’s
    sentence on the substantive charge. The district court heard
    argument on the felon-in-possession charge about whether
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    Evans acted in self-defense when he fired shots at the man
    in the black sweatshirt. The court stated that it was faced
    with
    an interesting legal paradigm here because
    normally in a situation like this . . . I believe
    under state law, [the defendant] has the
    burden of proof of the affirmative defense.
    But we’re not at a situation where — that
    situation. We’re at a situation where this
    court has to stand here or sit here as an
    adjudicatory body to determine all in, is this
    a — an aggravated assault or one that is
    legally excused by virtue of a self-defense —
    a self-defense defense being made out by the
    facts in the case.
    The court found that “the defendant did not initiate the
    shooting,” but he did get out of the car and fire at “one of
    [his assailant’s] coconspirators,” who was fleeing.
    Therefore, the court found that Evans had not acted in self-
    defense and sentenced him to 57 months of imprisonment
    followed by three years of supervised release subject to both
    standard and special conditions. Evans’s attorney sought
    permission to address the supervised release conditions, but
    the court denied him permission to do so.
    Evans timely appealed. We have jurisdiction pursuant to
    28 U.S.C. § 1291.
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    ANALYSIS
    I. Aggravated Assault Sentencing Enhancement
    In general, Sentencing Guideline § 2K2.1(a)(6)
    prescribes an offense level of 14 for the possession of a
    firearm by a prohibited person. However, pursuant to
    §§ 2K2.1(c)(1)(A) and 2X1.1, if a defendant charged with
    unlawful possession of a firearm used the firearm in the
    commission of another offense, the guideline for that other
    offense applies if the resulting offense level is higher. When
    the other offense is an aggravated assault in which a firearm
    is discharged, the offense level under § 2A2.2(a) and
    (b)(2)(A) is 19.
    The district court found that Evans used a firearm in the
    commission of an aggravated assault, and accordingly
    applied § 2A2.2(a) and (b)(2)(A). Evans argues here, as he
    did below, that the district court’s finding was erroneous
    because he acted in self-defense. The underlying offense of
    assault is codified in California Penal Code § 240.
    California law provides that self-defense “negates
    culpability for assaultive crimes.” People v. Adrian,
    
    185 Cal. Rptr. 506
    , 510 (Cal. Ct. App. 1982). 1 We review
    the district court’s factual findings for clear error. United
    States v. Christensen, 
    828 F.3d 763
    , 815 (9th Cir. 2015).
    At the time Evans exited the car with his gun drawn, he
    had already been shot five times, and the surveillance video
    suggests the man he fired at was in league with the shooter.
    Nevertheless, when Evans began firing the man was already
    1
    Under California law, there is no duty to retreat, and even a
    convicted felon may “defend himself, stand his ground, and use the
    amount of force reasonable under the circumstances.” People v. Rhodes,
    
    29 Cal. Rptr. 3d 226
    , 232 (Cal. Ct. App. 2005).
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    fleeing, and Evans continued firing at him as the man ran
    down the street. Based on its review of the security footage,
    the district court concluded that Evans did not reasonably
    believe it was necessary to shoot a fleeing man in order to
    defend himself, and we conclude that finding was not clearly
    erroneous.
    Evans also asserts that the district court’s finding was
    improper because it misapplied the burden of proof. It is not
    easy to discern where the court placed the burden of proof,
    but it did misstate California law when it noted that “under
    state law, [the defendant] has the burden of proof of the
    affirmative defense.” In fact, California law places the
    burden on the state to disprove self-defense beyond a
    reasonable doubt at a criminal trial. See Adrian, 185 Cal.
    Rptr. at 510. Evans does not argue that the “beyond a
    reasonable doubt” standard applied here. Instead, he
    recognizes that the government’s burden was to disprove
    self-defense by a preponderance of the evidence, as is
    generally required when a party seeks to adjust the offense
    level at sentencing. See United States v. Charlesworth,
    
    217 F.3d 1155
    , 1158 (9th Cir. 2000).
    Although its remarks were somewhat ambiguous, the
    court may have based its conclusion on an objective view of
    the record without allocating burdens to either side. 2 Even
    2
    There are contexts in which a district court makes a determination
    without regard to burdens of proof, such as in a habeas proceeding when
    deciding whether a trial error was harmless. See O’Neal v. McAninch,
    
    513 U.S. 432
    , 436–37 (1995) (“[W]e think it conceptually clearer for the
    judge to ask directly, ‘Do I, the judge, think that the error substantially
    influenced the jury’s decision?’ than for the judge to try to put the same
    question in terms of proof burdens (e.g., ‘Do I believe the party has borne
    its burden of showing . . . ?’).”). However, sentencing is not such a
    context.
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    assuming, arguendo, that the district court failed to place the
    burden of proof on the government to disprove self-defense,
    however, the error was harmless. The surveillance video
    clearly showed that Evans opened fire on a fleeing man.
    Under the circumstances, any failure by the district court to
    properly assign the burden of proof did not affect its finding
    that Evans did not act in self-defense.
    II. Conditions of Supervised Release
    After serving his consecutive prison sentences for the
    violation of supervised release and the felon-in-possession
    charge, Evans will be placed on supervised release for three
    years, subject to numerous conditions. Evans challenges
    four of those conditions on various grounds. We generally
    review conditions of supervised release for abuse of
    discretion, but we review de novo claims that such
    conditions violate the Constitution. United States v. Watson,
    
    582 F.3d 974
    , 981 (9th Cir. 2009). 3 Evans argues that all of
    the challenged conditions are unconstitutionally vague. A
    condition of supervised release violates due process “if it
    either forbids or requires the doing of an act in terms so
    vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily
    guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” United
    3
    The government argues that we should review Evans’s challenges
    to the conditions of supervised release for plain error because they were
    not raised below. However, Evans’s counsel sought to address the
    conditions after the court announced them, and was denied permission
    to do so. “If a party does not have an opportunity to object to a ruling or
    order, the absence of an objection does not later prejudice that party.”
    Fed. R. Crim. P. 51(b); see also United States v. Mancinas-Flores,
    
    588 F.3d 677
    , 686 (9th Cir. 2009) (“[A]n objection is required only if the
    court affords a party the opportunity to make one.”).
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    States v. Hugs, 
    384 F.3d 762
    , 768 (9th Cir. 2004) (quoting
    United States v. Loy, 
    237 F.3d 251
    , 262 (3d Cir. 2001)).
    A. Special Condition 5
    Evans first argues that Special Condition 5, which
    imposed several gang-related constraints, was procedurally
    erroneous,       substantively     unreasonable,      and
    unconstitutionally vague and overbroad. Special Condition
    5 reads as follows:
    The defendant shall not associate with any
    member of the Down Below Gang. The
    defendant shall have no connection
    whatsoever with the Down Below Gang or
    any other gang. If he is found to be in the
    company of such individuals or wearing the
    clothing, colors or insignia of the Down
    Below Gang, or any other gang, the court will
    presume that the association was for the
    purpose of participating in gang activities.
    “On appeal, we first consider whether the district court
    committed significant procedural error, then we consider the
    substantive reasonableness of the sentence.” United States
    v. Carty, 
    520 F.3d 984
    , 993 (9th Cir. 2008) (en banc). Evans
    asserts that the court’s failure to adequately explain the
    choice of conditions is procedural error. See United States
    v. Wolf Child, 
    699 F.3d 1082
    , 1090 (9th Cir. 2012) (“[T]he
    district court must provide a sufficient explanation to ‘permit
    meaningful appellate review’ and communicate ‘that a
    reasoned decision has been made.’” (quoting 
    Carty, 520 F.3d at 992
    –93)).
    The court did not explain its reasoning for this condition,
    which was procedural error unless “the reasoning is apparent
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    from the record.” 
    Id. (emphasis omitted)
    (quoting United
    States v. Collins, 
    684 F.3d 873
    , 890 (9th Cir. 2012)). The
    Presentence Investigation Report stated that Evans “has been
    identified as an affiliate of the Down Below Gang, which
    operates out of the Sunnydale Housing Projects.” The
    probation officer’s sentencing recommendation notes that
    “[o]n his prior term of supervised release, the defendant was
    prohibited from associating with any member of the Down
    Below Gang and was prohibited from being in the vicinity
    of the Sunnydale District in San Francisco.” At sentencing,
    Evans’s counsel explained that Evans grew up in Sunnydale,
    where “the two main gangs” are the “Up the Hill Gang and
    Down the Hill Gang” (presumably the same as the Down
    Below Gang), and that Evans had friends in both gangs. On
    this record, the district court’s reasoning was apparent: it
    believed that Evans was connected to the Down Below
    Gang, and that requiring him to avoid that and other gangs
    would reduce his risk of reoffending.
    Because Special Condition 5 is not procedurally
    erroneous, we next consider whether it is substantively
    unreasonable.       “A supervised release condition is
    substantively unreasonable if it ‘is not reasonably related to
    the goal[s] of deterrence, protection of the public, or
    rehabilitation of the offender,’ or if it infringes more on the
    offender’s liberty than is ‘reasonably necessary’ to
    accomplish these statutory goals.” Wolf 
    Child, 699 F.3d at 1090
    (alteration in original) (first quoting 
    Collins, 684 F.3d at 892
    ; and then quoting 18 U.S.C. § 3583(d)(2)). The
    government bears the burden of showing “that a particular
    condition of supervised release involves no greater
    deprivation of liberty than is reasonably necessary to serve
    the goals of supervised release.” United States v. Weber,
    
    451 F.3d 552
    , 559 (9th Cir. 2006).
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    The district court did not abuse its discretion in imposing
    the gang condition. Evans denies being a gang member and
    argues that none of his offenses were gang-related.
    However, he has been linked to the Down Below Gang and
    its members, and he was previously arrested for violating the
    conditions of his supervised release that prohibited him from
    entering the Sunnydale District (where the Down Below
    Gang operates) and associating with persons convicted of
    felonies. A condition barring contact with an organization
    may be substantively reasonable even if the defendant denies
    membership, see United States v. Ross, 
    476 F.3d 719
    , 721–
    22 (9th Cir. 2007), and it need not relate to the defendant’s
    current or prior offenses as long as it serves the statutory
    goals of sentencing, see 
    Watson, 582 F.3d at 983
    . The
    district court “could properly have concluded that [Evans]
    was more likely to relapse into crime if he returned to his
    prior associations. Probation conditions may seek to prevent
    reversion into a former crime-inducing lifestyle by barring
    contact with old haunts and associates, even though the
    activities may be legal.” United States v. Bolinger, 
    940 F.2d 478
    , 480 (9th Cir. 1991).
    Because Special Condition 5 is neither procedurally
    erroneous nor substantively unreasonable as a whole, we
    next address Evans’s challenges to subsections of the
    condition. Evans challenges the requirement that he have
    “no connection whatsoever with the Down Below Gang or
    any other gang” as unconstitutionally vague and overbroad
    because it appears to prohibit incidental or unknowing
    contacts with gang members or even people who are
    connected to gang members. See United States v. Soltero,
    
    510 F.3d 858
    , 865–66 (9th Cir. 2007) (per curiam).
    However, we construe this condition “consistent with well-
    established jurisprudence under which we presume
    prohibited criminal acts require an element of mens rea.”
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    United States v. Vega, 
    545 F.3d 743
    , 750 (9th Cir. 2008)
    (construing similar gang condition to require mens rea); see
    also 
    Soltero, 510 F.3d at 866
    –67 (construing similar gang
    condition to exclude incidental contacts). Thus construed,
    the condition does not reach unknowing or incidental
    contacts, and it is not vague or overbroad.
    While this reading of the condition saves it from
    unconstitutionality, it renders the condition’s last sentence
    problematic. That sentence reads: “If [Evans] is found to be
    in the company of [gang members] or wearing the clothing,
    colors or insignia of the Down Below Gang, or any other
    gang, the court will presume that the association was for the
    purpose of participating in gang activities.”             This
    presumption explicitly removes the requirement that the
    government prove mens rea in a future revocation
    proceeding and therefore, if allowed to stand, would render
    the condition vague and overbroad. See Wolf 
    Child, 699 F.3d at 1100
    n.9. Accordingly, although we uphold the
    rest of Special Condition 5, we remand for the district court
    to strike this final sentence. See 
    Soltero, 510 F.3d at 867
    .
    B. Standard Conditions
    Evans next challenges three “standard” conditions of
    supervised release, arguing that each of them is
    unconstitutionally vague. 4 In response to criticism from the
    Seventh Circuit, among other critics, the Sentencing
    4
    In the language of the Sentencing Guidelines, “standard”
    conditions should be distinguished from “mandatory” conditions. The
    latter must be imposed on any defendant placed on supervised release,
    while the former are merely recommended to the extent that they serve
    the purposes of sentencing. U.S. Sentencing Guidelines Manual
    § 5D1.3(a), (c).
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    Commission has amended the Sentencing Guidelines to
    address these three conditions’ vagueness. See U.S.
    Sentencing Comm’n, Amendments to the Sentencing
    Guidelines        43–44         (Apr.        28,      2016),
    https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/amendment-
    process/reader-friendly-amendments/20160428_RF.pdf. 5
    However, Evans’s sentence still includes the standard
    conditions in effect on the date of his sentencing. See U.S.
    Sentencing Guidelines Manual § 1B1.11(a). We agree with
    Evans that the three challenged standard conditions are
    unconstitutionally vague.
    Standard Condition 4 requires Evans to “support his or
    her dependents and meet other family responsibilities.”
    Evans challenges the phrase “meet other family
    responsibilities,” contending that its meaning is too vague to
    alert him to his responsibilities. See United States v. Kappes,
    
    782 F.3d 828
    , 849 (7th Cir. 2015) (“[I]t is not apparent what
    ‘other family responsibilities’ means, given that it appears to
    mean something different than ‘support[ing]’ [appellant’s]
    as-yet nonexistent dependents.” (second alteration in
    original)). The government disagrees, but it has offered no
    suggestion as to what “other family responsibilities” might
    5
    The dissent contends that “until recently, no one doubted that
    Standard Conditions 4, 5, and 13 provided people of ordinary
    intelligence with fair notice of what was prohibited.” Dissenting Op. at
    29. But as we discuss below, the entities that “recently” became
    concerned with the vagueness of these conditions were several
    successive panels of the Seventh Circuit, and the only courts of appeals
    to address the issue before then—the Tenth and the Eleventh Circuits—
    did so in a cursory and unpersuasive fashion. Likewise, in amending
    these standard conditions, the Sentencing Commission has adopted the
    Seventh Circuit’s view.
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    mean. 6 Does it mean that Evans must wash the dishes after
    dinner? Does it mean he must attend his children’s soccer
    games? If a relative comes to Evans with a problem, does
    the condition require him to do his best to give good advice
    rather than ignoring him or her? 7          The Sentencing
    Commission’s amendment resolves the problem by omitting
    the phrase. See U.S. Sentencing Guidelines Manual
    § 5D1.3(d)(1). We remand for the district court to do the
    same.
    Standard Condition 5 requires Evans to “work regularly
    at a lawful occupation, unless excused by the probation
    officer for schooling, training, or other acceptable reasons.”
    Evans challenges the word “regularly,” arguing that it has no
    6
    The government relies on a Tenth Circuit case, United States v.
    Munoz, in which that court rejected a vagueness challenge to the words
    “support” and “dependents” in an identically worded condition.
    
    812 F.3d 809
    , 818–19 (10th Cir. 2016). But Munoz did not address the
    phrase that Evans challenges here: “other family responsibilities.” It
    therefore provides no support for the government’s position.
    7
    The dissent criticizes our reliance on “hypotheticals and rhetorical
    questions,” see Dissenting Op. at 30, concluding that “no one would have
    trouble understanding and applying” conditions like Standard Condition
    4 in the real world, 
    id. at 25
    (citations and internal quotation marks
    omitted). But for all its talk of commonsense application, the dissent’s
    proffered explanations of the conditions do not answer any of the
    questions posed. For example, the dissent reads Special Condition 4 to
    require Evans to “provide support to his four children” (which, as the
    Seventh Circuit noted in 
    Kappes, 782 F.3d at 849
    , cannot be what it
    means to “meet other family responsibilities” because the condition
    already independently requires Evans to “support his . . . dependents”)
    and to “discharge family responsibilities of analogous significance.”
    Dissenting Op. at 25. But this reading amounts to little more than a
    rephrasing of the condition and hence does little to clarify the condition’s
    commonsense meaning.
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    clear definition and renders the condition unconstitutionally
    vague. See United States v. Poulin, 
    809 F.3d 924
    , 932 (7th
    Cir. 2016); 
    Kappes, 782 F.3d at 849
    . Indeed, the word
    “regularly” has no clear meaning in this context: it could
    mean something like “full-time” or “close to full-time”—the
    fact that the amended condition requires thirty hours per
    week, see U.S. Sentencing Guidelines Manual
    § 5D1.3(c)(7), seems to support this reading—or it could
    mean “the same amount each week” or “the same amount
    each month.” This ambiguity might confront Evans if he
    had, for example, a job opportunity that would offer only ten
    hours per week; would taking that job be enough to keep him
    out of jail? This condition places Evans “in the untenable
    position of discovering the meaning of his supervised release
    condition only under continual threat of reimprisonment, in
    sequential hearings before the court.” United States v.
    Stoterau, 
    524 F.3d 988
    , 1003 (9th Cir. 2008) (quoting United
    States v. Guagliardo, 
    278 F.3d 868
    , 872 (9th Cir. 2002)). 8
    We remand for the district court to modify Standard
    Condition 5 to remove this ambiguity.
    Standard Condition 13 requires Evans, “[a]s directed by
    the probation officer,” to “notify third parties of risks that
    may be occasioned by [his] criminal record or personal
    history or characteristics . . . .” Evans argues that, as the
    Seventh Circuit has held, “[t]here is no indication of what is
    meant by ‘personal history’ and ‘characteristics’ or what
    8
    Again, the government relies on a Tenth Circuit case, United States
    v. Llantada, which upheld a similar condition against a vagueness
    challenge. 
    815 F.3d 679
    , 681–82 (10th Cir. 2016). But Llantada simply
    cited Munoz and concluded that under the “common sense, non-
    technical” approach endorsed in that case, “[n]either a parolee nor his
    parole officer would have trouble understanding and applying” the
    condition. 
    Id. at 682.
    We do not find this conclusory reasoning
    persuasive.
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    ‘risks’ must be disclosed to which ‘third parties.’” United
    States v. Thompson, 
    777 F.3d 368
    , 379 (7th Cir. 2015); see
    also United States v. Hill, 
    818 F.3d 342
    , 345 (7th Cir. 2016)
    (“Hopelessly vague is the further condition . . . that the
    defendant ‘shall notify third parties of risks that may be
    occasioned by the defendant’s criminal record or personal
    history or characteristics.’ Does this mean that if he happens
    to be standing next to a six-year-old girl at a soda fountain
    he has to warn her that he has been convicted of receipt of
    child pornography? Does he have to explain to her what
    child pornography is?”). 9 Evans has several convictions for
    being a felon in possession of a firearm; must he disclose
    that there is a risk he may have a gun? To whom must he
    make this disclosure? Only to social acquaintances, or also
    to coworkers? If he goes to a bank in order to open a savings
    account and meets with a bank employee, must he disclose
    that he might have a gun? He has no way of knowing.
    The government argues that this condition does not leave
    Evans guessing because it “requires consultation with the
    probation officer.” But “[a] vague supervised release
    condition ‘cannot be cured by allowing the probation officer
    an unfettered power of interpretation, as this would create
    one of the very problems against which the vagueness
    doctrine is meant to protect, i.e., the delegation of “basic
    policy matters to policemen for resolution on an ad hoc and
    9
    The government cites United States v. Nash, in which the Eleventh
    Circuit upheld this condition. 
    438 F.3d 1302
    , 1306–07 (11th Cir. 2006).
    However, the Eleventh Circuit, apparently in accordance with its case
    law, merged the vagueness and substantive reasonableness inquiries into
    one hybrid determination that the condition was “undeniably related” to
    the appellant’s offenses. 
    Id. at 1307
    (quoting United States v. Taylor,
    
    338 F.3d 1280
    , 1285 (11th Cir. 2003)). Our case law keeps these
    inquiries separate, see, e.g., Wolf 
    Child, 699 F.3d at 1090
    –91, and so the
    relevance of Nash to this vagueness challenge is limited.
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    subjective basis.”’” 
    Soltero, 510 F.3d at 867
    n.10 (alteration
    omitted) (quoting 
    Loy, 237 F.3d at 266
    ). The language of
    the condition must provide some determinate guidance to
    Evans’s probation officer, as well as to Evans.
    “A probationer must be put on clear notice of what
    conduct will (and will not) constitute a supervised release
    violation.” 
    Id. Indeed, the
    Sentencing Commission
    recognized as much when it amended the applicable
    guideline to remove the ambiguous phrase “personal history
    or characteristics” and to clarify that a probation officer may
    only require a defendant to notify specific persons of specific
    risks that the defendant poses to those persons. See U.S.
    Sentencing Guidelines Manual § 5D1.3(c)(12) (“If the
    probation officer determines that the defendant poses a risk
    to another person (including an organization), the probation
    officer may require the defendant to notify the person about
    the risk and the defendant shall comply with that
    instruction.”). Accordingly, we remand for the district court
    to modify Standard Condition 13 in accordance with this
    opinion.
    III.   Factual Dispute During Revocation Hearing
    Evans’s final claim of error is that the district court was
    required to resolve a factual issue that was presented at his
    revocation hearing: namely, whether his probation officer’s
    allegation that Evans possessed a gun in April 2015 was true.
    Evans objected to this allegation and presented two sworn
    declarations contesting it. Federal Rule of Criminal
    Procedure 32(i)(3)(B) requires a sentencing court to resolve
    such factual disputes or determine explicitly that resolving
    the dispute is unnecessary. See United States v. Doe,
    
    705 F.3d 1134
    , 1153 (9th Cir. 2013). In general, Rule 32.1,
    not Rule 32, governs revocation proceedings, see United
    States v. Urrutia-Contreras, 
    782 F.3d 1110
    , 1112 (9th Cir.
    UNITED STATES V. EVANS                     19
    2015), and Rule 32.1 does not include an analogue to Rule
    32(i)(3)(B). However, “where Rule 32.1 is silent with
    respect to the matters that must be considered by a district
    court in imposing a sentence for violating the terms of
    supervised release, Rule 32 may be used to ‘fill in the gap’
    in Rule 32.1.” 
    Id. at 1113.
    Evans argues that we should read into Rule 32.1 an
    analogous requirement that a district court in a revocation
    proceeding must resolve factual disputes or determine
    explicitly that such resolution is unnecessary. We need not
    decide this question because any error by the district court in
    failing to resolve the April 2015 allegation was harmless.
    The district court did not refer to the allegation in
    determining Evans’s sentence; rather, it placed great weight
    on both Evans’s criminal history and the instant violation,
    his admitted possession of a firearm in July 2015. Thus, we
    are satisfied that any error in failing to resolve the factual
    allegation had no effect on the court’s decision.
    CONCLUSION
    For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the district court’s
    sentence for the violation of supervised release and vacate
    and remand the sentence on the substantive offense for the
    district court to correct the challenged conditions of
    supervised release. Each party shall bear its own costs on
    appeal. Fed. R. App. P. 39(a)(4).
    AFFIRMED in             part   and     VACATED         AND
    REMANDED in part.
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    IKUTA, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    In the face of myriad theories attacking the very idea that
    words can convey meaning, the Supreme Court has made it
    clear that a statute is not unconstitutionally vague merely
    because it lacks “mathematical certainty.” Grayned v. City
    of Rockford, 
    408 U.S. 104
    , 110 (1972). Rather than follow
    the Supreme Court’s guidance, however, the majority today
    erroneously invalidates three standard conditions of
    supervised release that have been applied for three decades
    without giving rise to any confusion. Therefore, I dissent as
    to Part II.B. 1
    I
    The majority’s error stems from its misunderstanding of
    the Supreme Court’s void-for-vagueness doctrine.
    Recognizing that legal advocates can easily argue that
    statutory words or phrases are ambiguous or lack discernible
    meaning, the Supreme Court has carefully limited the
    doctrine and warned appellate courts that the Constitution
    “does not require impossible standards,” United States v.
    Petrillo, 
    332 U.S. 1
    , 7 (1947), or expect “perfect clarity and
    precise guidance,” Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project,
    
    561 U.S. 1
    , 19 (2010) (quoting United States v. Williams,
    
    553 U.S. 285
    , 304 (2008))
    The Supreme Court has erected several signposts
    marking the limits of the void-for-vagueness doctrine. First,
    the Supreme Court has told us not to impose “impossible
    standards of specificity.” See Jordan v. De George, 
    341 U.S. 223
    , 231 (1951). “[C]ondemned to the use of words, we can
    never expect mathematical certainty from our language.”
    1
    I concur as to parts I, II.A, and III of the majority opinion.
    UNITED STATES V. EVANS                    21
    Hill v. Colorado, 
    530 U.S. 703
    , 733 (2000) (quoting
    
    Grayned, 408 U.S. at 110
    ); see also 
    Jordan, 341 U.S. at 232
    (“[D]oubt as to the adequacy of a standard in less obvious
    cases does not render that standard unconstitutional for
    vagueness.”).     Language “marked by ‘flexibility and
    reasonable breadth, rather than meticulous specificity’” is
    not unconstitutionally vague so long as “it is clear what the
    ordinance as a whole prohibits.” 
    Grayned, 408 U.S. at 110
    (quoting Esteban v. Cent. Mo. State Coll., 
    415 F.2d 1077
    ,
    1088 (8th Cir. 1969)). Further, any concern that a statute
    “fails to provide people of ordinary intelligence” an
    understanding of what conduct it prohibits is ameliorated
    when the statute contains a scienter requirement. 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 732
    . “[T]he Court has recognized that a scienter
    requirement may mitigate a law’s vagueness, especially with
    respect to the adequacy of notice . . . that [the] conduct is
    proscribed.” Vill. Of Hoffman Estates v. Flipside, Hoffman
    Estates, Inc., 
    455 U.S. 489
    , 499 (1982); see 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 21
    (“[T]he knowledge requirement of the statute further
    reduces any potential for vagueness[.]”).
    Second, courts should be reluctant to entertain facial
    vagueness challenges based on hypothetical situations. See
    Hoffman 
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 495
    n.7 (“[V]agueness
    challenges to statutes which do not involve First Amendment
    freedoms must be examined in the light of the facts of the
    case at hand.” (alteration in original) (quoting United States
    v. Mazurie, 
    419 U.S. 544
    , 550 (1975))). Instead, courts
    should limit themselves to determining whether a statute is
    vague as applied to the challenger’s particular situation. See
    Gonzales v. Carhart, 
    550 U.S. 124
    , 167–68 (2007) (scolding
    circuit courts for entertaining facial attacks against a state
    statute, and instructing that “[a]s-applied challenges are the
    basic building blocks of constitutional adjudication”
    (alteration in original) (quoting Richard H. Fallon Jr, As-
    22                  UNITED STATES V. EVANS
    Applied and Facial Challenges and Third-Party Standing,
    113 Harv. L. Rev. 1321, 1328 (2000))). In a pre-
    enforcement challenge, a court considers whether the
    “statutory terms are clear in their application to plaintiffs’
    proposed conduct,” not how the statute might apply to the
    conduct of others. 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 21
    . A facial
    challenge cannot succeed when “the ordinance is sufficiently
    clear as applied to” the challenger. Hoffman 
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 500
    . 2
    Even when a challenger brings a facial challenge to a
    statute that is claimed to interfere with the challenger’s right
    of free speech or of association where “a more stringent
    vagueness test should apply,” 
    id. at 499,
    “speculation about
    possible vagueness in hypothetical situations not before the
    Court will not support a facial attack on a statute when it is
    surely valid ‘in the vast majority of its intended
    application,’” 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 733
    (quoting United States v.
    Raines, 
    362 U.S. 17
    , 23 (1960)). A statutory term is not
    invalid just because a challenger “can conjure up
    hypothetical cases” that put the term’s meaning in question.
    
    Id. (quoting American
    Commc’ns Assn v. Douds, 
    339 U.S. 382
    , 412 (1950)). “[A]djudication of the reach and
    2
    In considering whether the residual clause in the definition of
    “violent felony” in the Armed Career Criminal Act was
    unconstitutionally vague, the Court explained that it was required to use
    the categorical approach and assess “whether a crime qualifies as a
    violent felony ‘in terms of how the law defines the offense and not in
    terms of how an individual offender might have committed it on a
    particular occasion.’” Johnson v. United States, 
    135 S. Ct. 2551
    , 2557
    (2015) (quoting Begay v. United States, 
    553 U.S. 137
    , 141 (2008)). Only
    in this context did the Court decline to consider “the risk posed by the
    particular conduct in which the defendant engaged” rather than “the risk
    posed by the ordinary case of the defendant’s crime.” 
    Id. at 2562.
    Johnson did not alter the rule disfavoring challenges based on
    hypotheticals that do not apply to the challenger’s proposed conduct.
    UNITED STATES V. EVANS                     23
    constitutionality of [the statute] must await a concrete fact
    situation.” 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 25
    (second alteration in
    original) (quoting Zemel v. Rusk, 
    381 U.S. 1
    , 20 (1965)).
    Third, the Supreme Court places great weight on whether
    a statutory phrase or term has caused prior problems. For
    instance, in rejecting a vagueness challenge to the phrase
    “crime involving moral turpitude,” Jordan held it was
    “significant that the phrase has been part of the immigration
    laws for more than sixty years,” and had not given rise to
    problems in 
    interpretation. 341 U.S. at 229
    . Likewise, the
    Court upheld a tax evasion statute against a vagueness
    challenge because “there ha[d] not been any apparent
    general confusion bespeaking inadequate statutory
    guidance” for many years, and therefore “[a] finding of
    unconstitutional uncertainty . . . would be a negation of
    experience and common sense.” United States v. Ragen,
    
    314 U.S. 513
    , 524 (1942). In contrast, the Court invalidated
    the definition of “violent felony” in the Armed Career
    Criminal Act’s residual clause because the “Court’s repeated
    attempts and repeated failures to craft a principled and
    objective standard out of the residual clause confirm[ed] its
    hopeless indeterminacy.” 
    Johnson, 135 S. Ct. at 2558
    .
    Guided by these signposts, the Supreme Court has
    rejected numerous vagueness challenges. Thus in Holder,
    the Court overruled the Ninth Circuit, holding that the terms
    “training,” “expert advice or assistance,” “service,” and
    “personnel” in a statute criminalizing the provision of
    material support to terrorists were “clear in their application
    to plaintiffs’ proposed 
    conduct.” 561 U.S. at 21
    ; see also
    
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 732
    –33 (upholding an ordinance precluding
    persons from approaching an abortion clinic to engage in
    “protest, education, or counseling” against a vagueness
    challenge, because “it is clear what the ordinance as a whole
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    prohibits” (quoting 
    Grayned, 408 U.S. at 110
    )); 
    Williams, 553 U.S. at 289
    –90, 304–06 (upholding a statute
    criminalizing the possession and distribution of material “in
    a manner that reflects the belief or that is intended to cause
    another to believe” that the material at issue contains child
    pornography (quoting 18 U.S.C. § 2252(A)(a)(3)(B)));
    
    Jordan, 341 U.S. at 231
    n.15 (collecting cases rejecting
    vagueness challenges). In doing so, the Court rejected the
    idea that a term is vague just because, when viewed in
    isolation, a challenger can imagine the potential for
    ambiguity. See 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 21
    ; 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 733
    ;
    
    Williams, 553 U.S. at 304
    –06.
    II
    In light of these principles, the majority’s determination
    that Standard Conditions 4, 5, and 13 are void for vagueness
    is contrary to the Supreme Court’s guidance. In entertaining
    a disfavored facial vagueness challenge, the majority
    imposes an “impossible standard of specificity,” discounts
    the ameliorative effect of a mens rea requirement, relies on
    hypothetical cases and engages in speculation, and ignores
    the long and untroubled judicial application of these
    conditions.
    These errors are clear in the majority’s analysis of
    Standard Condition 4, which requires Evans to “support his
    . . . dependents and meet other family responsibilities.”
    Relying on the Seventh Circuit’s conclusion, the majority
    claims this condition is void for vagueness on its face
    because the phrase “other family responsibilities” lacks
    meaning. Maj. at 14–15 (citing United States v. Kappes,
    
    782 F.3d 828
    , 849 (7th Cir. 2015)). But Evans fails to
    explain why this condition is unclear as applied to him. See
    
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 22
    –23 (holding that plaintiffs cannot
    prevail in a vagueness challenge by “pointing to hypothetical
    UNITED STATES V. EVANS                    25
    situations designed to test the limits” of certain statutory
    terms, when their own case presented no such problem).
    Neither Evans nor his probation officer should have trouble
    understanding that Standard Condition 4 requires Evans to
    provide support to his four children and to discharge family
    responsibilities of analogous significance. The Tenth
    Circuit likewise concluded that no one “would have trouble
    understanding and applying” Standard Condition 4 “in a real
    world setting.” United States v. Llantada, 
    815 F.3d 679
    , 682
    (10th Cir. 2016) (upholding the condition). Although the
    condition might “involve ambiguity in particular
    circumstances” a defendant “would understand what was
    required.” United States v. Munoz, 
    812 F.3d 809
    , 818 (10th
    Cir. 2016). Thus, the majority’s confusion about whether
    “responsibilities” could encompass trivial activities such as
    washing dishes embodies the sort of hypertechnical game-
    playing the Supreme Court has rejected. Maj. at 14–15. See
    
    Williams, 553 U.S. at 305
    ; 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 733
    . “The
    likelihood that anyone would not understand” what this
    condition requires “seems quite remote.” 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 732
    .
    Moreover, because Evans knows his own family
    situation, any vagueness is ameliorated by the mens rea
    requirement we read into Condition 4. See 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 21
    ; 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 732
    . We interpret standard conditions
    of supervised release “consistently with the ‘well-
    established jurisprudence under which we presume
    prohibited criminal acts require an element of mens rea.’”
    United States v. Napulou, 
    593 F.3d 1041
    , 1045 (9th Cir.
    2010) (quoting United States v. Vega, 
    545 F.3d 743
    , 750 (9th
    Cir. 2008)). Further, should an actual (as opposed to
    hypothetical) question arise regarding the scope of a
    condition, Evans, like all defendants subject to the
    supervised release conditions, has “an additional layer of
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    protection.” United States v. Phillips, 
    704 F.3d 754
    , 768
    n.13 (9th Cir. 2012). If Evans is charged with violation of a
    condition of supervised release, he may raise an as-applied
    challenge in district court, and the district court “will
    examine the findings to [e]nsure that [his] due process right
    to notice of prohibited conduct has been observed and to
    protect him from unknowing violations.” 
    Id. (alterations in
    original) (quoting United States v. Romero, 
    676 F.2d 406
    ,
    407 (9th Cir. 1982)); see also 
    Vega, 545 F.3d at 750
    (same).
    The majority’s invalidation of the other conditions is
    erroneous for the same reasons. According to the majority,
    Standard Condition 5, which requires that he “work
    regularly at a lawful occupation, unless excused by the
    probation officer for schooling, training, or other acceptable
    reasons,” is ambiguous because the word “regularly” has no
    clear definition. Maj. at 15–16. But in context, people of
    common intelligence would understand that if Evans gets a
    job, he must maintain a good attendance record on a regular
    basis. See Hoffman 
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 495
    n.7 (law is not
    vague if “it requires a person to conform his conduct to an
    imprecise but comprehensible normative standard” (quoting
    Coates v. City of 
    Cincinnati, 402 U.S. at 614
    )). The Tenth
    Circuit agreed, holding that the phrase “work regularly” was
    not impermissibly vague because “district courts impose this
    condition with virtual uniformity.” 
    Munoz, 812 F.3d at 814
    ;
    see also 
    Llatanda, 815 F.3d at 682
    .
    The majority, by contrast, is puzzled because the word
    “regularly” does not differentiate between full-time or part-
    time work, and does not clarify whether it means “the same
    amount” of work each week or month. Maj. at 16. The
    Supreme Court has had little patience with speculation about
    possible vagueness in hypothetical conditions. See 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 22
    –23 (“Whatever force these arguments might
    UNITED STATES V. EVANS                     27
    have in the abstract, they are beside the point here. Plaintiffs
    . . . cannot seek refuge in imaginary cases that straddle the
    boundary between [two statutory terms]” and raise only
    “theoretical doubts” about how the statute applies); Hoffman
    
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 504
    (“Although it is possible that
    specific future applications . . . may engender concrete
    problems of constitutional dimension, it will be time enough
    to consider any such problems when they arise.” (alterations
    in original) (quoting Joseph E. Seagram & Sons, Inc. v.
    Hostetter, 
    384 U.S. 35
    , 52 (1966))). And the Court has
    rejected the argument that standards “marked by flexibility
    and reasonable breadth” are unconstitutional. 
    Grayned, 408 U.S. at 110
    (quoting 
    Esteban, 415 F.3d at 1088
    ); see
    also 
    Johnson, 135 S. Ct. at 2561
    (holding that laws are not
    unconstitutionally vague merely because they “call for the
    application of a qualitative standard such as ‘substantial risk’
    to real-world conduct”).         We have likewise upheld
    supervised release conditions that impose qualitative
    restrictions. For instance, we upheld a restriction on
    “‘frequent[ing] places’ where illegal drugs are used or sold”
    against a vagueness challenge, concluding that under a
    “common sense reading,” the word “frequenting” meant
    “often or habitually” and did not include “incidental
    contact.” 
    Phillips, 704 F.3d at 768
    (quoting Merriam-
    Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Edition (2003)).
    Unlike the majority, Phillips did not find it necessary to
    strike down this condition on the ground that the word
    “frequenting” failed to specify time constraints with
    precision. See 
    id. The majority’s
    invalidation of Standard Condition 13 is
    equally flawed. This condition requires Evans, “[a]s
    directed by the probation officer,” to “notify third parties of
    risks that may be occasioned by the defendant’s criminal
    record or personal history or characteristics.” Evans argues
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    that the condition does not define “personal history,”
    “characteristics,” or which “risks” must be disclosed. Again,
    context eliminates the ambiguity. Evans knows how the
    condition applies because he has intimate knowledge of his
    own “criminal history,” “criminal record,” and “personal
    history.” See United States v. Nash, 
    438 F.3d 1302
    , 1307
    (11th Cir. 2006) (upholding Condition 13 because
    defendant’s “convictions inform[ed] the probation officer as
    to which parties ‘may be occasioned’ to be harmed by
    [defendant]”); 3 United States v. MacMillen, 
    544 F.3d 71
    ,
    76–77 (2d Cir. 2008) (upholding a similar condition that
    authorized the probation office to discuss “third-party risks
    with employers” because “the circumstances of the case”
    meant that “[p]robation will not be operating in a vacuum
    when it considers whether and in what situations an
    employer should be informed” of the defendant’s offense).
    Again, only the Seventh Circuit and the majority are
    confused by the meaning of these common words. Maj. at
    16–17 (citing United States v. Hill, 
    818 F.3d 342
    , 345 (7th
    Cir. 2016); United States v. Thompson, 
    777 F.3d 368
    , 379
    (7th Cir. 2015)). Further, the condition requires consultation
    with a probation officer, which further reduces the
    possibility that Evans might be confused by the condition.4
    3
    The majority contends that Nash is of limited relevance because
    the Eleventh Circuit’s inquiry “merged the vagueness and substantive
    reasonableness inquiries.” Maj. at 17 n.9. Regardless of its precise
    framework, Nash explicitly stated that the defendants’ “previous and
    current convictions” gave the probation officer guidance to enforce the
    
    condition. 438 F.3d at 1307
    .
    4
    Because the probation officer’s determination regarding the scope
    of this requirement is limited by the particulars of Evans’s “criminal
    history,” “criminal record,” and “personal history,” the condition does
    not give the probation officer unlimited discretion. Cf. United States v.
    Soltero, 
    510 F.3d 858
    , 867 n.10 (9th Cir. 2007) (holding that a “vague
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    See United States v. King, 
    608 F.3d 1122
    , 1128–29 (9th Cir.
    2010) (“In addition to the bare words of the probation
    condition, the probationer may be guided by the further
    definition, explanations, or instructions of the district court
    and the probation officer.” (quoting 
    Romero, 676 F.2d at 407
    )).
    In fact, until recently, no one doubted that Standard
    Conditions 4, 5, and 13 provided people of ordinary
    intelligence with fair notice of what was prohibited. Courts
    have applied these conditions since the Sentencing
    Guidelines were first propounded in 1987. See United States
    Sentencing Guidelines Manual § 5B1.4(a)(4), (5), (13) (U.S.
    Sentencing Comm’n 1987). There has been no long history
    of district or appellate court opinions struggling to “craft a
    principled and objective standard” for construing and
    applying these conditions. 
    Johnson, 135 S. Ct. at 2558
    .
    Only after close to 30 years of untroubled application did the
    Seventh Circuit suddenly detect that Standard Condition 4
    and other conditions were unconstitutionally vague on their
    face. 
    Kappes, 782 F.3d at 849
    . 5 And until today, the
    supervised release condition ‘cannot be cured by allowing the probation
    officer an unfettered power of interpretation’” (quoting United States v.
    Loy, 
    237 F.3d 251
    , 266 (3d Cir. 2001))). Further, in the event of an
    alleged supervised release violation, the district court will be able to
    determine if Evans received sufficient notice of prohibited conduct.
    
    Phillips, 704 F.3d at 768
    n.13.
    5
    The majority argues that the fact that the Sentencing Commission
    subsequently amended the Guidelines to clarify the language supports
    the majority’s conclusion that the original Conditions are vague. Maj. at
    13–14, 16, 18. But the Sentencing Commission amended the guidelines
    only in response to the Seventh Circuit’s hypothetical concerns, not to
    any real-world difficulty. See U.S. Sentencing Comm’n, Amendments
    to the Sentencing Guidelines 43–44 (Apr. 28, 2016),
    https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/amendment-process/reader-
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    Seventh Circuit’s superficial facial analysis, floating free
    from the Supreme Court’s careful framework for
    determining when a statute is unconstitutionally vague, has
    been repudiated by all other circuits. See 
    Llatanda, 815 F.3d at 682
    ; 
    Munoz, 812 F.3d at 814
    ; 
    MacMillen, 544 F.3d at 76
    –
    77; 
    Nash, 438 F.3d at 1307
    . We should have done the same,
    and avoided falling into the Seventh Circuit’s error.
    III
    Because “[i]n most English words and phrases there lurk
    uncertainties,” it is always easy to argue that words are
    incapable of expressing fixed and determinate concepts.
    Robinson v. United States, 
    324 U.S. 282
    , 286 (1945). In fact,
    such arguments have infected law schools for decades. See
    Gary Peller, The Metaphysics of American Law, 
    73 Cal. L
    .
    Rev. 1151, 1162, 1168–69 (1985); Richard H. Fallon Jr, The
    Meaning of Legal “Meaning” and Its Implications for
    Theories of Legal Interpretation, 82 U. Chi. L. Rev. 1235,
    1254 (2015). That is why the Supreme Court has rejected
    any void-for-vagueness test that requires language to have
    “mathematical certainty,” 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 733
    (quoting
    
    Grayned, 408 U.S. at 110
    ), or “perfect clarity,” 
    Holder, 561 U.S. at 19
    (quoting 
    Williams, 553 U.S. at 304
    ). But the
    majority here has fallen into the specificity trap. By relying
    on hypotheticals and rhetorical questions, it strikes down
    ordinary language that can be clarified through case-by-case
    application of the constitutional vagueness doctrine.
    I therefore dissent, and would affirm the district court in
    full.
    friendly-amendments/20160428_RF.pdf. The Sentencing Commission
    itself made no finding that the conditions were vague.