David Pickup v. Edmund Brown, Jr. ( 2014 )


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  •                  FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    DAVID H. PICKUP; CHRISTOPHER H.           No. 12-17681
    ROSICK; JOSEPH NICOLOSI; ROBERT
    VAZZO; NATIONAL ASSOCIATION                  D.C. No.
    FOR RESEARCH AND THERAPY OF              2:12-CV-02497-
    HOMOSEXUALITY, a Utah non-profit            KJM-EFB
    organization; AMERICAN
    ASSOCIATION OF CHRISTIAN
    COUNSELORS, a Virginia non-profit
    association; JACK DOE 1, Parent of
    John Doe 1; JANE DOE 1, Parent of
    John Doe 1; JOHN DOE 1, a minor,
    guardian ad litem Jane Doe, guardian
    ad litem Jack Doe; JACK DOE 2,
    Parent of John Doe 2; JANE DOE 2,
    Parent of John Doe 2; JOHN DOE 2, a
    minor, guardian ad litem Jack Doe,
    guardian ad litem Jane Doe,
    Plaintiffs-Appellants,
    v.
    EDMUND G. BROWN, JR., Governor
    of the State of California, in his
    official capacity; ANNA M.
    CABALLERO, Secretary of the
    California State and Consumer
    Services Agency, in her official
    capacity; SHARON LEVINE, President
    of the Medical Board of California,
    in her official capacity; KIM
    2                     PICKUP V. BROWN
    MADSEN, Executive Officer of the
    California Board of Behavioral
    Sciences, in her official capacity;
    MICHAEL ERICKSON, President of the
    California Board of Psychology, in
    his official capacity,
    Defendants-Appellees,
    and
    EQUALITY CALIFORNIA,
    Intervenor-Defendant-Appellee.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of California
    Kimberly J. Mueller, District Judge, Presiding
    DONALD WELCH; ANTHONY DUK;               No. 13-15023
    AARON BITZER,
    Plaintiffs-Appellees,         D.C. No.
    2:12-CV-02484-
    v.                        WBS-KJN
    EDMUND G. BROWN, JR., Governor
    of the State of California, in his       ORDER AND
    official capacity; ANNA M.                AMENDED
    CABALLERO, Secretary of California         OPINION
    State and Consumer Services
    Agency, in her official capacity;
    DENISE BROWN, Case Manager,
    Director of Consumer Affairs, in her
    official capacity; CHRISTINE
    WIETLISBACH, PATRICIA LOCK-
    PICKUP V. BROWN                      3
    DAWSON, SAMARA ASHLEY, HARRY
    DOUGLAS, JULIA JOHNSON, SARITA
    KOHLI, RENEE LONNER, KAREN
    PINES, CHRISTINA WONG, in their
    official capacities as members of the
    California Board of Behavioral
    Sciences; SHARON LEVINE, MICHAEL
    BISHOP, SILVIA DIEGO, DEV
    GNANADEV, REGINALD LOW, DENISE
    PINES, JANET SALOMONSON, GERRIE
    SCHIPSKE, DAVID SERRANO SEWELL,
    BARBARA YAROSLAVSKY, in their
    official capacities as members of the
    Medical Board of California,
    Defendants-Appellants.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of California
    William B. Shubb, Senior District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted
    April 17, 2013—San Francisco, California
    Filed August 29, 2013
    Amended January 29, 2014
    Before: Alex Kozinski, Chief Judge, and Susan P. Graber,
    and Morgan Christen, Circuit Judges.
    Order;
    Dissent to Order by Judge O’Scannlain;
    Opinion by Judge Graber
    4                        PICKUP V. BROWN
    SUMMARY*
    Civil Rights
    The panel replaced its prior opinion, filed on August 29,
    2013, and published at 
    728 F.3d 1042
    , with an amended
    opinion, denied a petition for panel rehearing, denied a
    petition for rehearing en banc on behalf of the court, and
    ordered that no further petitions shall be entertained.
    Reversing an order granting preliminary injunctive relief
    in Welch v. Brown, 13-15023, and affirming the denial of
    preliminary injunctive relief in Pickup v. Brown, 12-17681,
    the panel held that California Senate Bill 1172, which bans
    state-licensed mental health providers from engaging in
    “sexual orientation change efforts” with patients under 18
    years of age, does not violate the free speech rights of
    practitioners or minor patients, is neither vague nor
    overbroad, and does not violate parents’ fundamental rights.
    The panel held that Senate Bill 1172 regulates professional
    conduct, not speech and therefore was subject only to a
    rational basis review.
    Dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge
    O’Scannlain, joined by Judges Bea and Ikuta stated that by
    defining disfavored speech as “conduct,” the panel’s opinion
    entirely exempted California’s regulation from the First
    Amendment. Judge O’Scannlain stated that in so doing, the
    panel contravened recent Supreme Court precedent, ignored
    established free speech doctrine, misread Ninth Circuit cases,
    *
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                       5
    and thus insulated from First Amendment scrutiny
    California’s prohibition—in the guise of a professional
    regulation—of politically unpopular expression.
    COUNSEL
    No. 12-17681
    Mathew D. Staver (argued) and Anita L. Staver, Liberty
    Counsel, Maitland, Florida; Mary E. McAlister, Stephen M.
    Crampton, and Daniel J. Schmid, Liberty Counsel,
    Lynchburg, Virginia, for Plaintiffs-Appellants David H.
    Pickup et al.
    Alexandra Robert Gordon (argued), Deputy Attorney
    General, Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General of California,
    Douglas J. Woods, Senior Assistant Attorney General, Tamar
    Pachter, Supervising Deputy Attorney General, and Daniel J.
    Powell and Rei R. Onishi, Deputy Attorneys General, San
    Francisco, California, for Defendants-Appellees Edmund G.
    Brown, Jr., et al.
    Shannon P. Minter (argued), National Center for Lesbian
    Rights, San Francisco, California; David C. Dinielli, Munger,
    Tolles & Olson LLP, Los Angeles, California, for
    Intervenor/Defendant-Appellee.
    Robert P. Taylor, Arnold & Porter LLP, San Francisco,
    California, for Amici Curiae American Association for
    Marriage and Family Therapy-California Division, et al.;
    Elizabeth O. Gill, ACLU Foundation of Northern California,
    Inc., San Francisco, California, for Amicus Curiae American
    Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Northern California; Eric
    6                    PICKUP V. BROWN
    Alan Isaacson, San Diego, California, and Stacey M. Kaplan,
    San Francisco, California, for Amici Curiae California Faith
    for Equality, et al.; Brad W. Seiling, Benjamin G. Shatz, and
    Justin Jones Rodriquez, Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP, Los
    Angeles, California, and Hayley Gorenberg, Lambda Legal
    Defense and Education Fund, Inc., New York, New York,
    and Shelbi D. Day, Lambda Legal Defense and Education
    Fund, Inc., Los Angeles, California, for Amici Curiae
    Children’s Law Center of California, et al.; Jay Rapaport,
    Covington & Burling LLP, San Francisco, California, for
    Amicus Curiae Dr. Jack Drescher, M.D.; Jon B. Eisenberg
    and Barry R. Levy, Encino, California, for Amicus Curiae
    First Amendment Scholars; Eileen R. Ridley, Thomas F.
    Carlucci, Patrick T. Wong, and Kristy K. Marino, Foley &
    Lardner LLP, San Francisco, California, for Amicus Curiae
    Health Law Scholars; Adam L. Gray and James Maxwell
    Cooper, Kirkland & Ellis LLP, San Francisco, California, for
    Amici Curiae Medical Professionals Tonya Chaffee, MD,
    MPH, et al.; Tara M. Steeley, Deputy City Attorney, and
    Dennis J. Herrera, City Attorney, and Therese Stewart, Mollie
    Lee, and Sara Eisenberg, Deputy City Attorneys, San
    Francisco, California, for Amicus Curiae The City and
    County of San Francisco; and Sanford Jay Rosen, Rosen Bien
    Galvan & Grunfeld LLP, San Francisco, California, for
    Amicus Curiae Survivors of Sexual Orientation Change
    Efforts.
    No. 13-15023
    Alexandra Robert Gordon (argued), Deputy Attorney
    General, Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General of California,
    Douglas J. Woods, Senior Assistant Attorney General, Tamar
    Pachter, Supervising Deputy Attorney General, and Daniel J.
    Powell and Rei R. Onishi, Deputy Attorneys General, and
    PICKUP V. BROWN                       7
    Craig J. Konnoth, Deputy Solicitor General, San Francisco,
    California, for Defendants-Appellants Edmund G. Brown, Jr.,
    et al.
    Kevin T. Snider (argued), Matthew B. McReynolds, and
    Michael J. Peffer, Pacific Justice Institute, Sacramento,
    California, for Plaintiffs-Appellees Donald Welch et al.
    Elizabeth O. Gill, ACLU Foundation of Northern California,
    Inc., San Francisco, California, for Amicus Curiae American
    Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Northern California;
    Peter D. Lepiscopo, William P. Morrow, James M. Griffiths,
    and Michael W. Healy, Lepiscopo & Associates Law Firm,
    San Diego, California, for Amicus Curiae American College
    of Pediatricians; Eric Alan Isaacson, San Diego, California,
    and Stacey M. Kaplan, San Francisco, California, for Amici
    Curiae California Faith for Equality, et al.; Brad W. Seiling
    and Benjamin G. Shatz, Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP, Los
    Angeles, California, and Hayley Gorenberg, Lambda Legal
    Defense and Education Fund, Inc, New York, New York, and
    Shelbi D. Day, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund,
    Inc., Los Angeles, California, for Amici Curiae Children’s
    Law Center of California, et al.; Shannon P. Minter, National
    Center for Lesbian Rights, San Francisco, California, and
    David C. Dinielli, Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP, Los
    Angeles, California, for Amicus Curiae Equality California;
    Jon B. Eisenberg and Barry R. Levy, Encino, California, for
    Amicus Curiae First Amendment Scholars; John A. Eidsmoe
    and Joshua M. Pendergrass, Foundation for Moral Law,
    Montgomery, Alabama, for Amicus Curiae Foundation for
    Moral Law; Eileen R. Ridley, Thomas F. Carlucci, Patrick T.
    Wong, and Kristy K. Marino, Foley & Lardner LLP, San
    Francisco, California, for Amicus Curiae Health Law
    Scholars; Dean R. Broyles, The National Center for Law &
    8                    PICKUP V. BROWN
    Policy, Escondido, California, for Amicus Curiae Parents and
    Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays; and Sanford Jay Rosen, Rosen
    Bien Galvan & Grunfeld LLP, San Francisco, California, for
    Amicus Curiae Survivors of Sexual Orientation Change
    Efforts.
    ORDER
    The opinion filed on August 29, 2013, and published at
    
    728 F.3d 1042
    , is replaced by the amended opinion filed
    concurrently with this order. With these amendments, the
    panel has voted to deny the petitions for panel rehearing and
    petitions for rehearing en banc.
    The full court has been advised of the petitions for
    rehearing en banc. A judge of the court called for a vote on
    whether to rehear the matter en banc. On such vote, a
    majority of the nonrecused active judges failed to vote in
    favor of en banc rehearing.
    The petitions for panel rehearing and petitions for
    rehearing en banc are DENIED. No further petitions for
    panel rehearing or petitions for rehearing en banc shall be
    entertained.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                                  9
    O’SCANNLAIN, Circuit Judge, joined by BEA and IKUTA,
    Circuit Judges, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en
    banc:
    May the legislature avoid First Amendment judicial
    scrutiny by defining disfavored talk as “conduct”? That is
    what these cases are really about.
    The State of California, in the statute at issue here, has
    prohibited licensed professionals from saying certain words
    to their clients. By labeling such speech as “conduct,” the
    panel’s opinion has entirely exempted such regulation from
    the First Amendment. In so doing, the panel contravenes
    recent Supreme Court precedent, ignores established free
    speech doctrine, misreads our cases, and thus insulates from
    First Amendment scrutiny California’s prohibition—in the
    guise of a professional regulation—of politically unpopular
    expression.
    I respectfully dissent from our court’s regrettable failure
    to rehear these cases en banc.
    I
    California enacted Senate Bill 1172 (“SB 1172”), which
    subjects state-licensed “mental health providers”1 to
    professional discipline for engaging in “sexual orientation
    1
    According to the statute, “mental health providers” consist not only of
    the medical doctor and trained psychologist, but also “psychological
    assistant, intern, or trainee, a licensed marriage and family therapist, a
    registered marriage and family therapist, intern, or trainee, . . . a licensed
    clinical social worker, an associate clinical social worker, a licensed
    professional clinical counselor, a registered clinical counselor, intern, or
    trainee.” Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code § 865(a).
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    change efforts” with clients who are minors. Cal. Bus. &
    Prof. Code §§ 865.1, 865.2. The statute defines such change
    efforts to include “any practices . . . that seek to change an
    individual’s sexual orientation.” 
    Id. § 865(b)(1).
    Explicitly
    exempted from the regulation are “psychotherapies that
    provide acceptance, support, and understanding of clients’
    coping, social support, and identity exploration and
    development.” 
    Id. § 865(b)(2).
    The law does not expressly
    prohibit professionals from discussing change efforts with
    patients, from referring patients to unlicensed practitioners of
    change efforts, or otherwise from offering opinions on the
    subject of homosexuality. Amended op. at 26.
    In Welch, the district court granted plaintiffs an injunction
    against SB 1172, but a different judge in Pickup denied a
    similar request. Plaintiffs in these cases include licensed
    professionals who provide change efforts exclusively through
    speech—i.e., methods such as counseling and prayer.2 Cf. 
    id. at 39
    n.5.
    According to the panel the words proscribed by SB 1172
    consist entirely of medical “treatment,” which although
    effected by verbal communication nevertheless constitutes
    “professional conduct” entirely unprotected by the First
    Amendment. See amended op. at 37–39. Unlike a
    professional’s opinions, theories, recommendations, or
    advocacy, such “conduct” effected through speech would
    receive no constitutional safeguards against state suppression.
    
    Id. The panel
    provides no principled doctrinal basis for its
    2
    In surveying the history of “sexual orientation change efforts,” the
    panel also catalogues various “aversive” treatments, some barbaric and
    many archaic, employed by psychologists of a bygone era. See amended
    op. at 23–24. Such anachronisms are not at issue here.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                        11
    dichotomy: by what criteria do we distinguish between
    utterances that are truly “speech,” on the one hand, and those
    that are, on the other hand, somehow “treatment” or
    “conduct”? The panel, contrary to common sense and
    without legal authority, simply asserts that some spoken
    words—those prohibited by SB 1172—are not speech.
    Empowered by this ruling of our court, government will
    have a new and powerful tool to silence expression based on
    a political or moral judgment about the content and purpose
    of the communications. The First Amendment precisely
    forbids government from punishing speech on such grounds.
    II
    Our precedents do not suggest that laws prohibiting
    “conduct” effected exclusively by means of speech escape
    First Amendment scrutiny. In fact, the Supreme Court, in its
    most recent relevant case, flatly refused to countenance the
    government’s purported distinction between “conduct” and
    “speech” for constitutional purposes when the activity at issue
    consisted of talking and writing.
    The plaintiffs in Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project,
    
    130 S. Ct. 2705
    (2010), had challenged a Federal statute
    forbidding “material support” to terrorist organizations for
    criminalizing protected verbal communications. 
    Id. at 2716–17.
    The Supreme Court upheld the statute, but only
    after applying First Amendment scrutiny. Specifically, the
    Court rejected the government’s argument that the statute
    only punished “conduct”: for, in this situation, the “conduct
    triggering coverage under the statute consists of
    communicating a message.” 
    Id. at 2724.
    In other words, the
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    government’s ipse dixit cannot transform “speech” into
    “conduct” that it may more freely regulate.3
    The panel attempts, vainly, to distinguish Humanitarian
    Law Project from the facts of this case by emphasizing that
    the change efforts prohibited by SB 1172 are “therapeutic
    treatment, not expressive speech” and that the practitioners to
    whom the law applies are “licensed mental health
    professionals acting within the confines of the counselor-
    client relationship.” Amended op. at 39. In purported
    contrast is the issue in Humanitarian Law Project, which
    according to the panel dealt with “political speech . . . by
    ordinary citizens.”      
    Id. at 40.
          These supposedly
    distinguishing characteristics find no support in the Supreme
    Court’s holding and do not even fairly characterize the facts
    of the case.
    In the first place, the panel’s vague invocation of
    “ordinary citizens” misses the mark. What exactly the panel
    means by this locution—more redolent of campaign sound
    bites or generic political press releases than the customarily
    more precise language of judicial opinions—is unclear. To
    the extent that “ordinary citizens” encompass non-
    professionals, this dichotomy is self-evidently irrelevant on
    the facts of Humanitarian Law Project. The plaintiffs in that
    case included a nonprofit human-rights organization with
    consultative status to the United 
    Nations, 130 S. Ct. at 3
       Undoubtedly the State possesses an important interest in regulating the
    professions in the interest of public health, safety, and morals; but
    presumably the governmental interest in proscribing criminal activity, and
    especially support of terrorism, is similarly substantial—if not more so.
    Yet the Supreme Court declined to declare speech uttered in just such a
    context as categorically outside of the First Amendment’s protections.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                          13
    2713–14; the activities in which they had contemplated
    engaging included offering their professional expertise and
    advice on various international and humanitarian issues, 
    id. at 2716–17.
    Such plaintiffs may not have been doctors or
    psychoanalysts, but certainly purported to be offering
    professional services of another sort; the Supreme Court, at
    least, did not treat them as mere lay people. If that is the
    distinction the panel perceives in the “ordinary citizens” of
    Humanitarian Law Project, it is illusory.
    Furthermore, the Supreme Court in Humanitarian Law
    Project explicitly rejected the plaintiffs’ argument that the
    expression in question consisted of “pure political speech.”
    
    Id. at 2722;
    see also 
    id. at 2724
    (“The First Amendment issue
    before us is . . . not whether the Government may prohibit
    pure political speech.”). In explanation, the Court proceeded
    to enumerate various sorts of political expression that the
    statute did not abridge—just as the panel’s opinion does with
    respect to SB 1172. The material support statute permitted
    “plaintiffs . . . to say anything they wish on any topic[; t]hey
    may speak and write freely[;] . . . . [t]hey may advocate
    before the United Nations.” 
    Id. at 2722–23;
    cf. amended op.
    at 26 (“SB 1172 does not . . . [p]revent mental health
    providers from communicating with the public about SOCE[;
    p]revent mental health providers from expressing their views
    to patients, whether children or adults, about SOCE,
    homosexuality, or any other topic[; p]revent mental health
    providers from recommending SOCE to patients, whether
    children or adults . . . .”). Such classical “political speech,”
    Chief Justice Roberts concluded, did not fall within the
    statute’s strictures; nevertheless, the Court ruled that the First
    Amendment still applied to the sort of speech in which the
    plaintiffs contemplated engaging and which they claimed the
    statute forbade. See 
    id. at 2724
    –27. The reasoning of
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    Humanitarian Law Project specifically forecloses courts from
    approving a statutory restriction on speech simply because it
    still permits various and extensive political expression.
    The cases here present an analogous situation:
    professionals—including but not limited to doctors and
    psychologists—desire to “communicate a message” that the
    law in question does not permit. This court accordingly
    should subject SB 1172 to some level of scrutiny under the
    First Amendment.
    It bears noting, further, that the Court in Humanitarian
    Law Project did not examine the content or purpose of the
    “message” the plaintiffs desired to communicate. Thus the
    panel’s attempt to validate SB 1172, on the basis that the
    speech—the communicated “message”—it proscribes is not
    “expressive” or “symbolic,” amended op. at 39, finds no
    support in Humanitarian Law Project itself. Whether the
    prohibited communications in any given situation qualify as
    pure political speech or, for example, commercial speech will
    affect only the level of scrutiny, not whether the First
    Amendment applies at all. The Supreme Court has not
    required that speech, as a threshold matter, be “expressive” or
    “symbolic” before deigning to extend to it constitutional
    protection.4
    4
    The panel’s reliance on the Supreme Court’s opinion in Rumsfeld v.
    Forum for Academic & Institutional Rights (“FAIR II”), 
    547 U.S. 47
    (2006), consequently, begs the question. See amended op. at 40. That
    case “extended First Amendment protection only to conduct that is
    inherently expressive,” 
    id. at 66;
    but the panel’s insufficiently grounded
    assertion that change efforts constitute “conduct” is precisely what is at
    issue. FAIR II would only control if the panel first correctly determined
    that change efforts comprise not speech but conduct for the purposes of
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    The Supreme Court’s implication in Humanitarian Law
    Project is clear: legislatures cannot nullify the First
    Amendment’s protections for speech by playing this labeling
    game. SB 1172 prohibits certain “practices,” just as the
    statute in Humanitarian Law Project prohibited “material
    support”; but with regard to those plaintiffs as well as the
    plaintiffs here, those laws targeted speech. Thus, the First
    Amendment still applies.
    III
    The Federal courts have never recognized a freestanding
    exception to the First Amendment for state professional
    regulations.5 Indeed authoritative precedents have established
    that neither professional regulations generally, nor even a
    more limited subclass of such rules, remain categorically
    outside of the First Amendment’s reach.6 To justify its
    the First Amendment—a determination that, on these facts, Humanitarian
    Law Project forecloses.
    5
    The panel places professionals’ free-speech rights along a
    “continuum,” on one end of which, “where a professional is engaged in a
    public dialogue,” he enjoys extensive protections under the First
    Amendment. And, “[a]t the midpoint of the continuum, . . . First
    Amendment protection . . . is somewhat diminished” but apparently not
    obliterated. See amended op. at 34–37.
    6
    See, e.g., Fla. Bar v. Went For It, Inc., 
    515 U.S. 618
    , 622–24 (1995)
    (applying the First Amendment to state bar rules forbidding certain direct
    attorney advertising); Edenfield v. Fane, 
    507 U.S. 761
    , 765–67 (1993)
    (applying the First Amendment to state professional regulation of
    accountants); Ohralik v. Ohio St. Bar Ass’n, 
    436 U.S. 447
    , 454–59 (1978)
    (applying a balancing test under the First Amendment to state professional
    regulation that prohibited attorney in-person solicitation); Bates v. St. Bar
    of Ariz., 
    433 U.S. 350
    , 363–66 (1977) (applying First Amendment to state
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    purported speech/conduct dichotomy in the context of the
    professions, the panel instead invokes our decisions in
    National Association for the Advancement of Psychoanalysis
    v. California Board of Psychology (“NAAP”), 
    228 F.3d 1043
    (9th Cir. 2000), and Conant v. Walters, 
    309 F.3d 629
    (9th Cir.
    2002), as well as scattered citations of non-authoritative
    cases. Supreme Court precedent, however, as well as NAAP
    and Conant themselves, do not dictate such conclusion—
    rather, they counsel against it.
    A
    NAAP confronted the question whether California may
    regulate the psychoanalytical professions at all. We
    concluded, indeed, that psychoanalysts, simply by dint of
    theirs being the “talking cure,” do not receive “special First
    Amendment protection.” See 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1054
    professional regulation that prohibited attorney advertising); Va. St. Bd. of
    Pharmacy v. Va. Citizens Consumer Council, 
    425 U.S. 748
    , 758–61
    (1975) (applying First Amendment to state professional regulation that
    prohibited pharmacists from advertising prices).
    Most precedents addressing the application of the First Amendment
    to professional regulations have occurred in the context of rules against
    advertising. The Supreme Court has subjected such “commercial speech”
    to a lower degree of scrutiny under the First Amendment than classical
    political expression, respecting the state’s traditional “power to regulate
    commercial activity deemed harmful.” 
    Ohralik, 436 U.S. at 456
    . Unlike
    advertising—or the “exchange of information about securities, corporate
    proxy statements, the exchange of price and production information, and
    employers’ threats of retaliation for the labor activities of employees,”
    id.—change efforts do not have a necessarily commercial focus. Indeed,
    SB 1172 does not simply prohibit licensed practitioners from engaging in
    change efforts for a fee, but subjects them to professional discipline for
    doing so even absent any commercial relationship—such as, for example,
    in connection with a church’s ministry.
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    (emphasis added). But such statement does not in any way
    support the novel principle, discerned by the panel, that such
    “talk therapy” receives no First Amendment protection at all.
    In fact NAAP explicitly affirmed that the “communication
    that occurs during psychoanalysis is entitled to constitutional
    protection,” even if it “is not immune from regulation.” 
    Id. Although the
    panel implies otherwise, NAAP did not hold that
    psychotherapy administered solely through the spoken word
    constitutes wholly unprotected speech.7 Rather we stated in
    NAAP that mental health professionals do not lose all of their
    First Amendment immunities once their counseling sessions
    begin.8
    B
    Conant likewise offers no terra firma for the panel’s
    unprecedented distinction. In that case, the Ninth Circuit
    invalidated a Federal regulation that prohibited physicians
    from recommending medicinal marijuana to their patients. In
    so doing, we affirmed that doctors’ speech to their patients
    “may be entitled to the strongest protection our Constitution
    has to offer.” 
    Conant, 309 F.3d at 637
    (internal quotation
    7
    Plaintiffs in that case had challenged California’s general licensing
    scheme for certain mental health professionals, which required
    practitioners to possess certain educational credentials but otherwise did
    not “dictate what can be said between psychologists and patients during
    treatment.” 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1055
    . Unlike NAAP, this case does not
    involve simply a general licensing scheme or educational requirements,
    but rather the substantive regulation of the speech uttered between
    practitioners and patients.
    8
    It merits repeating here that SB 1172’s reach extends much more
    broadly than the psychoanalytical professions: it also regulates marriage
    therapists, social workers, and clinical counselors. See supra note 4.
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    marks omitted). Conant furthermore explained that NAAP
    stated that “communication that occurs during psychoanalysis
    is entitled to First Amendment protection” and summarized
    its holding that the regulation at issue in that case passed
    muster because the “content-neutral” law “did not attempt to
    dictate the content of what is said in therapy and did not
    prevent licensed therapists from utilizing particular psycho-
    analytical methods.” 
    Id. (internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    On its face, this language from Conant seems to apply more
    directly and more strongly to SB 1172 than to the Federal
    restriction considered in that case. Indeed, SB 1172 explicitly
    bans speech with a certain content or uttered with a certain
    intent, and unequivocally prohibits not only “particular
    psycho-analytical methods” but also particular purposes that
    both doctor and patient may have for preferring such
    methods.
    The panel, however, claims to find support for its
    conduct/speech distinction in Conant’s contrast of
    recommending medicinal marijuana with actually prescribing
    the controlled substance. See 
    id. at 635.
    Because SB 1172
    purportedly permits professionals freely to discuss change
    efforts with—and even recommend change efforts to—their
    patients, but simply forbids them from engaging in change
    efforts themselves, the panel asserts that the regulation does
    not fail under Conant’s logic. See amended op. at 38–39.
    Such a conclusion depends on an analogy between change
    efforts and “speak[ing] the words necessary to provide or
    administer the banned drug.” 
    Id. at 37–38.
    But by writing a
    prescription, a physician’s words have an independent legal
    effect: ordinarily, it entitles the patient to a controlled
    chemical substance he otherwise would have no right to
    possess. When the State prohibits a doctor from prescribing
    a drug, it simply refuses to accord his written words this
    PICKUP V. BROWN                                19
    additional legal significance.9 Rather, like the regulation
    challenged and invalidated in Conant, SB 1172 prohibits the
    doctor from speaking to his patient with certain words and in
    a certain way.10
    9
    For a similar reason, the State may also punish a doctor for purporting
    to prescribe an illegal drug or otherwise writing a prescription he is not
    qualified or permitted to write. In such a situation, the doctor is
    attempting fraudulently to arrogate to his writing a legal significance to
    which it is not entitled. A psychologist or a social worker who undertakes
    change efforts on his patient, on the other hand, is not investing, or
    attempting to invest, his words with any legal effect.
    10
    Although it quotes, word for word, the statutory definition of “mental
    health provider,” amended op. at 25 n.1, the panel finds no problem
    characterizing as “medical treatment” the services provided by non-
    medical professionals such as marriage therapists, social workers, and
    clinical counselors—all of whom SB 1172 forbids from engaging in
    change efforts.
    The panel emphasizes the “medical” nature of the regulation at issue.
    It describes change efforts as “therapeutic treatment” and “activities [that]
    are therapeutic,” and classifies change efforts as analogous for relevant
    purposes alongside medical procedures. Id at 39–40. Although the panel
    expressly invokes the statutory language when arguing that SB 1172
    regulates conduct, it does not attend as closely to the legislative text in
    attempting to characterize change efforts as “medicine.” Indeed, as
    emphasized above, SB 1172 extends much more broadly than just to the
    medical or even the psychoanalytical professions. SB 1172 likewise
    forbids licensed marriage and family therapists as well as social workers,
    among others, from engaging in change efforts. See Cal. Bus. & Prof.
    Code § 865(a).         It strains credulity to depict the counseling
    services—socially invaluable as they are—provided by marriage
    counselors and social workers as “medicine” or “treatment.” If the
    panel’s presumption that all change efforts, whether administered by
    doctors and psychologists, or by social workers and marriage counselors,
    are necessarily “medicine” is based on scientific or other objective
    technical expertise, they do not say so. For certainly the text of the statute
    does not suggest, let alone compel, such a broad proclamation.
    20                   PICKUP V. BROWN
    C
    Perhaps what really shapes the panel’s reasoning in these
    cases is not the principles supposedly distilled from the case
    law, but rather problematic and potentially unavoidable
    implications of an alternative conclusion. By subjecting SB
    1172 to any First Amendment scrutiny at all, the panel may
    fear it will open Pandora’s box: heretofore uncontroversial
    professional regulations proscribing negligent, incompetent,
    or harmful advice will now attract meritless challenges
    merely on the basis that such provisions prohibit speech.
    Alluding to these concerns, the panel notes that “doctors
    are routinely held liable for giving negligent medical advice
    to their patients, without serious suggestion that the First
    Amendment protects their right to give advice that is not
    consistent with the accepted standard of care.” Amended op.
    at 36. But the panel nevertheless fails to develop this
    argument, and cites no authoritative precedent that protects
    such regulations from First Amendment scrutiny. In the first
    place, Humanitarian Law Project has effectively neutralized
    this ground of reasoning. The material-support statute in that
    case attempted, with respect to those plaintiffs, just what SB
    1172 proposes to do to Drs. Welch and Pickup: prohibit the
    provision of certain professional services delivered solely
    through speech. The statute in Humanitarian Law Project
    survived—but it did not escape—First Amendment scrutiny.
    Subjecting regulations of professionals’ speech to some
    degree of scrutiny under the First Amendment indeed does
    not necessarily call their legitimacy into question. But
    perhaps the panel’s common sense would afford more
    deferential treatment to such traditional regulations as, for
    example, the ethical rules forbidding attorneys from
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    divulging client confidences. Accordingly, the panel
    intimates a potentially broad exception to the First
    Amendment for certain categories of speech. The Supreme
    Court, however, has clearly warned us inferior courts against
    arrogating to ourselves “any ‘freewheeling authority to
    declare new categories of speech outside the scope of the
    First Amendment.’” United States v. Alvarez, 
    132 S. Ct. 2537
    , 2547 (2012) (quoting United States v. Stevens, 
    559 U.S. 460
    , 472 (2010)).11 The panel cites no case holding that
    speech, uttered by professionals to their clients, does not
    actually constitute “speech” for purposes of the First
    Amendment. And that should not surprise us—for the
    Supreme Court has not recognized such a category.12
    III
    The Supreme Court has chastened us lower courts for
    creating, out of whole cloth, new categories of speech to
    which the First Amendment does not apply. But, that is
    exactly what the panel’s opinion accomplishes in this case,
    concealing its achievement by casually characterizing the
    communications prohibited by SB 1172 as nonexpressive
    11
    Notwithstanding my vigorous dissent from our court’s denial of en
    banc rehearing, the Supreme Court ratified the Alvarez panel’s “novel
    theory that ‘we presumptively protect all speech . . . .’” United States v.
    Alvarez, 
    638 F.3d 666
    , 679 (9th Cir. 2011) (O’Scannlain, J., dissenting
    from denial of rehearing). We may not reopen now this settled question.
    12
    Although the panel fears the implications of overprotecting
    professional speech, it does not consider the potential effects of
    underprotection. If a state may freely regulate speech uttered by
    professionals in the course of their practice without implicating the First
    Amendment, then targeting disfavored moral and political expression may
    only be a matter of creative legislative draftsmanship.
    22                   PICKUP V. BROWN
    conduct. Of course, this begs the question. The panel
    provides no authority to support its broad intimations that the
    words spoken by therapists and social workers, if they fall
    within the statutory language of SB 1172, should receive no
    protection at all from the First Amendment.
    The regulation at issue may very well constitute a valid
    exercise of California’s police power: I take no view as to the
    merits of SB 1172, either as a matter of policy or on the
    question whether it would withstand strict or some
    intermediate level of scrutiny. But as to the threshold
    issue—may California remove from the First Amendment’s
    ambit the speech of certain professionals when the State
    disfavors its content or its purpose?—the Supreme Court has
    definitively and unquestionably said “No.” It is no longer
    within our discretion to disagree.
    For the foregoing reasons I respectfully dissent from the
    court’s decision not to rehear these cases en banc.
    OPINION
    GRABER, Circuit Judge:
    The California legislature enacted Senate Bill 1172 to ban
    state-licensed mental health providers from engaging in
    “sexual orientation change efforts” (“SOCE”) with patients
    under 18 years of age. Two groups of plaintiffs sought to
    enjoin enforcement of the law, arguing that SB 1172 violates
    the First Amendment and infringes on several other
    constitutional rights.
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    In Welch v. Brown, No. 13-15023, the district court ruled
    that Plaintiffs were likely to succeed on the merits of their
    First Amendment claim and that the balance of the other
    preliminary-injunction factors tipped in their favor; thus, the
    court granted a preliminary injunction. In Pickup v. Brown,
    No. 12-17681, the district court ruled that Plaintiffs were
    unlikely to succeed on the merits of any of their claims and
    denied preliminary relief. The losing parties timely appealed.
    We address both appeals in this opinion.
    Although we generally review for abuse of discretion a
    district court’s decision to grant or deny a preliminary
    injunction, we may undertake plenary review of the issues if
    a district court’s ruling “‘rests solely on a premise as to the
    applicable rule of law, and the facts are established or of no
    controlling relevance.’” Gorbach v. Reno, 
    219 F.3d 1087
    ,
    1091 (9th Cir. 2000) (en banc) (quoting Thornburgh v. Am.
    Coll. of Obstetricians & Gynecologists, 
    476 U.S. 747
    , 755–57
    (1986)). Because those conditions are met here, we
    undertake plenary review and hold that SB 1172, as a
    regulation of professional conduct, does not violate the free
    speech rights of SOCE practitioners or minor patients, is
    neither vague nor overbroad, and does not violate parents’
    fundamental rights. Accordingly, we reverse the order
    granting preliminary relief in Welch and affirm the denial of
    preliminary relief in Pickup.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    A. Sexual Orientation Change Efforts (“SOCE”)
    SOCE, sometimes called reparative or conversion
    therapy, began at a time when the medical and psychological
    community considered homosexuality an illness. SOCE
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    encompasses a variety of methods, including both aversive
    and non-aversive treatments, that share the goal of changing
    an individual’s sexual orientation from homosexual to
    heterosexual. In the past, aversive treatments included
    inducing nausea, vomiting, or paralysis; providing electric
    shocks; or having an individual snap an elastic band around
    the wrist when aroused by same-sex erotic images or
    thoughts. Even more drastic methods, such as castration,
    have been used. Today, some non-aversive treatments use
    assertiveness and affection training with physical and social
    reinforcement to increase other-sex sexual behaviors. Other
    non-aversive treatments attempt “to change gay men’s and
    lesbians’ thought patterns by reframing desires, redirecting
    thoughts, or using hypnosis, with the goal of changing sexual
    arousal, behavior, and orientation.” American Psychological
    Association, Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual
    Orientation 22 (2009). The plaintiff mental health providers
    in these cases use only non-aversive treatments.
    In 1973, homosexuality was removed from the Diagnostic
    and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Shortly
    thereafter the American Psychological Association declared
    that homosexuality is not an illness. Other major mental
    health associations followed suit. Subsequently, many mental
    health providers began questioning and rejecting the efficacy
    and appropriateness of SOCE therapy. Currently, mainstream
    mental health professional associations support affirmative
    therapeutic approaches to sexual orientation that focus on
    coping with the effects of stress and stigma. But a small
    number of mental health providers continue to practice, and
    advocate for, SOCE therapy.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                              25
    B. Senate Bill 1172
    Senate Bill 1172 defines SOCE as “any practices by
    mental health providers[1] that seek to change an individual’s
    sexual orientation[,] . . . includ[ing] efforts to change
    behaviors or gender expressions, or to eliminate or reduce
    sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals
    of the same sex.” Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code § 865(b)(1).
    SOCE, however,
    does not include psychotherapies that: (A)
    provide acceptance, support, and
    understanding of clients or the facilitation of
    clients’ coping, social support, and identity
    exploration and development, including
    sexual orientation-neutral interventions to
    prevent or address unlawful conduct or unsafe
    sexual practices; and (B) do not seek to
    change sexual orientation.
    1
    California Business and Professions Code section 865(a) defines
    “mental health provider” as
    a physician and surgeon specializing in the practice of
    psychiatry, a psychologist, a psychological assistant,
    intern, or trainee, a licensed marriage and family
    therapist, a registered marriage and family therapist,
    intern, or trainee, a licensed educational psychologist,
    a credentialed school psychologist, a licensed clinical
    social worker, an associate clinical social worker, a
    licensed professional clinical counselor, a registered
    clinical counselor, intern, or trainee, or any other person
    designated as a mental health professional under
    California law or regulation.
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    Id. § 865(b)(2).
    A licensed mental health provider’s use of
    SOCE on a patient under 18 years of age is “considered
    unprofessional conduct,” which will subject that provider to
    “discipline by the licensing entity for that mental health
    provider.” 
    Id. § 865.2.
    Importantly, SB 1172 does not do any of the following:
    •   Prevent mental health providers from communicating
    with the public about SOCE
    •   Prevent mental health providers from expressing their
    views to patients, whether children or adults, about
    SOCE, homosexuality, or any other topic
    •   Prevent mental health providers from recommending
    SOCE to patients, whether children or adults
    •   Prevent mental health providers from administering
    SOCE to any person who is 18 years of age or older
    •   Prevent mental health providers from referring minors
    to unlicensed counselors, such as religious leaders
    •   Prevent unlicensed providers, such as religious
    leaders, from administering SOCE to children or
    adults
    •   Prevent minors from seeking SOCE from mental
    health providers in other states
    Instead, SB 1172 does just one thing: it requires licensed
    mental health providers in California who wish to engage in
    “practices . . . that seek to change a [minor’s] sexual
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    orientation” either to wait until the minor turns 18 or be
    subject to professional discipline. Thus, SB 1172 regulates
    the provision of mental treatment, but leaves mental health
    providers free to discuss or recommend treatment and to
    express their views on any topic.
    The legislature’s stated purpose in enacting SB 1172 was
    to “protect[] the physical and psychological well-being of
    minors, including lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender
    youth, and [to] protect[] its minors against exposure to
    serious harms caused by sexual orientation change efforts.”
    2012 Cal. Legis. Serv. ch. 835, § 1(n). The legislature relied
    on the well-documented, prevailing opinion of the medical
    and psychological community that SOCE has not been shown
    to be effective and that it creates a potential risk of serious
    harm to those who experience it. Specifically, the legislature
    relied on position statements, articles, and reports published
    by the following organizations: the American Psychological
    Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the
    American School Counselor Association, the American
    Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association,
    the National Association of Social Workers, the American
    Counseling Association, the American Psychoanalytic
    Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent
    Psychiatry, and the Pan American Health Organization.
    In particular, the legislature relied on a report created by
    a Task Force of the American Psychological Association.
    That report resulted from a systematic review of the scientific
    literature on SOCE. Methodological problems with some of
    the reviewed studies limited the conclusions that the Task
    Force could draw. Nevertheless, the report concluded that
    SOCE practitioners have not demonstrated the efficacy of
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    SOCE and that anecdotal reports of harm raise serious
    concerns about the safety of SOCE.
    C. Procedural History
    Plaintiffs in Welch include two SOCE practitioners and an
    aspiring SOCE practitioner. Plaintiffs in Pickup include
    SOCE practitioners, organizations that advocate SOCE,
    children undergoing SOCE, and their parents. All sought a
    declaratory judgment that SB 1172 is unconstitutional and
    asked for injunctive relief to prohibit enforcement of the law.2
    In Welch, Plaintiffs moved for preliminary injunctive
    relief, arguing that SB 1172 violates their free speech and
    privacy rights. They also argued that the law violates the
    religion clauses and is unconstitutionally vague and
    overbroad under the First Amendment.
    The Welch court held that SB 1172 is subject to strict
    scrutiny because it would restrict the content of speech and
    suppress the expression of particular viewpoints. It reasoned
    that the fact that the law is a professional regulation does not
    change the level of scrutiny. The court granted preliminary
    relief because it determined that the state was unlikely to
    satisfy strict scrutiny, Plaintiffs would suffer irreparable harm
    2
    In Pickup, Equality California, an advocacy group for gay rights,
    sought and received intervenor status to defend SB 1172. Pickup
    Plaintiffs argue that the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Hollingsworth
    v. Perry, 
    133 S. Ct. 2652
    (2013), means that Equality California does not
    have standing to defend the statute. We need not resolve that question,
    however, because the State of California undoubtedly has standing to
    defend its statute, and “the presence in a suit of even one party with
    standing suffices to make a claim justiciable.” Brown v. City of Los
    Angeles, 
    521 F.3d 1238
    , 1240 n.1 (9th Cir. 2008) (per curiam).
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    in the absence of an injunction, the balance of the equities
    tipped in their favor, and the injunction was in the public
    interest. Because the district court granted relief on their free
    speech claim, it did not reach Plaintiffs’ other constitutional
    challenges.3
    In Pickup, Plaintiffs moved for preliminary injunctive
    relief, arguing that SB 1172 violates the First and Fourteenth
    Amendments by infringing on SOCE practitioners’ right to
    free speech, minors’ right to receive information, and parents’
    right to direct the upbringing of their children. They also
    argued that SB 1172 is unconstitutionally vague.
    The Pickup court denied Plaintiffs’ motion because it
    determined that they were unlikely to prevail on the merits of
    any of their claims. It reasoned that, because the plain text of
    SB 1172 bars only treatment, but not discussions about
    treatment, the law regulates primarily conduct rather than
    speech. Applying the rational basis test, the court ruled that
    3
    The Welch Plaintiffs’ response brief contains a single paragraph
    asserting that SB 1172 violates the religion clauses of the First
    Amendment. That paragraph, which cites neither the record nor any case,
    is part of Plaintiffs’ argument that SB 1172 is not narrowly tailored to
    achieve a compelling government purpose, as required by the Free Speech
    Clause, because it contains no clergy exemption. The religion claim,
    however, is not “specifically and distinctly argued,” as ordinarily required
    for us to consider an issue on appeal. Thompson v. Runnels, 
    705 F.3d 1089
    , 1099–1100 (9th Cir.) (internal quotation marks omitted), cert.
    denied, 
    134 S. Ct. 234
    (2013); see also Maldonado v. Morales, 
    556 F.3d 1037
    , 1048 n.4 (9th Cir. 2009) (“Arguments made in passing and
    inadequately briefed are waived.”). Moreover, although the Welch
    Plaintiffs raised the claim in the district court, the court did not rule on it
    because it granted relief on their free speech claim. In these
    circumstances, we decline to address the religion claim. The district court
    may do so in the first instance.
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    Plaintiffs were unlikely to show a violation of the SOCE
    practitioners’ free speech rights or the minors’ right to receive
    information. As for vagueness, the court ruled that the text of
    the statute is clear enough to put mental health providers on
    notice of what is prohibited. Finally, the court ruled that SB
    1172 does not implicate parents’ right to control the
    upbringing of their children because that right does not
    encompass the right to choose a specific mental health
    treatment that the state has reasonably deemed harmful to
    minors.
    DISCUSSION
    A. Free Speech Rights
    At the outset, we must decide whether the First
    Amendment requires heightened scrutiny of SB 1172. As
    explained below, we hold that it does not.
    The first step in our analysis is to determine whether SB
    1172 is a regulation of conduct or speech. “[W]ords can in
    some circumstances violate laws directed not against speech
    but against conduct . . . .” R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, 
    505 U.S. 377
    , 389 (1992). “Congress, for example, can prohibit
    employers from discriminating in hiring on the basis of race.
    The fact that this will require an employer to take down a sign
    reading ‘White Applicants Only’ hardly means that the law
    should be analyzed as one regulating the employer’s speech
    rather than conduct.” Rumsfeld v. Forum for Academic &
    Institutional Rights, Inc. (“FAIR II”), 
    547 U.S. 47
    , 62 (2006).
    The Supreme Court has made clear that First Amendment
    protection does not apply to conduct that is not “inherently
    expressive.” 
    Id. at 66.
    In identifying whether SB 1172
    regulates conduct or speech, two of our cases guide our
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    decision: National Association for the Advancement of
    Psychoanalysis v. California Board of Psychology
    (“NAAP”), 
    228 F.3d 1043
    (9th Cir. 2000), and Conant v.
    Walters, 
    309 F.3d 629
    (9th Cir. 2002).
    In 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1053
    , psychoanalysts who were not
    licensed in California brought a First Amendment challenge
    to California’s licensing scheme for mental health providers.
    The licensing scheme required that persons who provide
    psychological services to the public for a fee obtain a license,
    which in turn required particular educational and experiential
    credentials. 
    Id. at 1047.
    The plaintiffs alleged that the
    licensing scheme violated their First Amendment right to
    freedom of speech because the license examination tested
    only certain psychological theories and required certain
    training; plaintiffs had studied and trained under different
    psychoanalytic theories. 
    Id. at 1055.
    We were equivocal
    about whether, and to what extent, the licensing scheme in
    NAAP implicated any free speech concerns. 
    Id. at 1053
    (“We
    conclude that, even if a speech interest is implicated,
    California’s licensing scheme passes First Amendment
    scrutiny.” (emphasis added)); 
    id. at 1056
    (“Although some
    speech interest may be implicated, California’s content-
    neutral mental health licensing scheme is a valid exercise of
    its police power . . . .” (emphasis added)). We reasoned that
    prohibitions of conduct have “‘never been deemed an
    abridgement of freedom of speech . . . merely because the
    conduct was in part initiated, evidenced, or carried out by
    means of language.’” See 
    id. at 1053
    (ellipsis in original)
    (quoting Giboney v. Empire Storage & Ice Co., 
    336 U.S. 490
    ,
    502 (1949)). And, importantly, we specifically rejected the
    argument that “because psychoanalysis is the ‘talking cure,’
    it deserves special First Amendment protection because it is
    ‘pure speech.’” 
    Id. at 1054.
    We reasoned: “[T]he key
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    component of psychoanalysis is the treatment of emotional
    suffering and depression, not speech. That psychoanalysts
    employ speech to treat their clients does not entitle them, or
    their profession, to special First Amendment protection.” 
    Id. (internal quotation
    marks and ellipsis omitted).
    Nevertheless, we concluded that the “communication that
    occurs during psychoanalysis is entitled to constitutional
    protection, but it is not immune from regulation.” 
    Id. But we
    neither decided how much protection that communication
    should receive nor considered whether the level of protection
    might vary depending on the function of the communication.
    Given California’s strong interest in regulating mental health,
    we held that the licensing scheme at issue in NAAP was a
    valid exercise of its police power. 
    Id. at 1054–55.
    We went on to conclude that, even if the licensing scheme
    in NAAP regulated speech, it did not trigger strict scrutiny
    because it was both content neutral and viewpoint neutral. 
    Id. at 1055.
    We reasoned that the licensing laws did not “dictate
    what can be said between psychologists and patients during
    treatment.” 
    Id. Further, we
    observed that those laws were
    “not adopted because of any disagreement with
    psychoanalytical theories” but for “the important purpose of
    protecting public health, safety, and welfare.” 
    Id. at 1056
    (internal quotation marks omitted). We again concluded that
    the laws were a valid exercise of California’s police power.
    
    Id. In Conant,
    309 F.3d at 633–34, we affirmed a district
    court’s order granting a permanent injunction that prevented
    the federal government from revoking a doctor’s DEA
    registration or initiating an investigation if he or she
    recommended medical marijuana. The federal government
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    had adopted a policy that a doctor’s “recommendation” of
    marijuana would lead to revocation of his or her license. 
    Id. at 632.
    But the government was “unable to articulate exactly
    what speech [the policy] proscribed, describing it only in
    terms of speech the patient believes to be a recommendation
    of marijuana.” 
    Id. at 639.
    Nevertheless, the demarcation
    between conduct and speech in Conant was clear. The policy
    prohibited doctors from prescribing or distributing marijuana,
    and neither we nor the parties disputed the government’s
    authority to prohibit doctors from treating patients with
    marijuana. 
    Id. at 632,
    635–36. Further, the parties agreed
    that “revocation of a license was not authorized where a
    doctor merely discussed the pros and cons of marijuana use.”
    
    Id. at 634
    (emphasis added).
    We ruled that the policy against merely “recommending”
    marijuana was both content- and viewpoint-based. 
    Id. at 637.
    It was content-based because it covered only doctor-patient
    speech “that include[d] discussions of the medical use of
    marijuana,” and it was viewpoint-based because it
    “condemn[ed] expression of a particular viewpoint, i.e., that
    medical marijuana would likely help a specific patient.” 
    Id. We held
    that the policy did not withstand heightened First
    Amendment scrutiny because it lacked “the requisite narrow
    specificity” and left “doctors and patients no security for free
    discussion.” 
    Id. at 639
    (internal quotation marks omitted).
    We distill the following relevant principles from NAAP
    and Conant: (1) doctor-patient communications about
    medical treatment receive substantial First Amendment
    protection, but the government has more leeway to regulate
    the conduct necessary to administering treatment itself; (2)
    psychotherapists are not entitled to special First Amendment
    protection merely because the mechanism used to deliver
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    mental health treatment is the spoken word; and (3)
    nevertheless, communication that occurs during
    psychotherapy does receive some constitutional protection,
    but it is not immune from regulation.
    Because those principles, standing alone, do not tell us
    whether or how the First Amendment applies to the
    regulation of specific mental health treatments, we must go
    on to consider more generally the First Amendment rights of
    professionals, such as doctors and mental health providers.
    In determining whether SB 1172 is a regulation of speech or
    conduct, we find it helpful to view this issue along a
    continuum.
    At one end of the continuum, where a professional is
    engaged in a public dialogue, First Amendment protection is
    at its greatest. Thus, for example, a doctor who publicly
    advocates a treatment that the medical establishment
    considers outside the mainstream, or even dangerous, is
    entitled to robust protection under the First Amendment—just
    as any person is—even though the state has the power to
    regulate medicine. See Lowe v. SEC, 
    472 U.S. 181
    , 232
    (1985) (White, J., concurring) (“Where the personal nexus
    between professional and client does not exist, and a speaker
    does not purport to be exercising judgment on behalf of any
    particular individual with whose circumstances he is directly
    acquainted, government regulation ceases to function as
    legitimate regulation of professional practice with only
    incidental impact on speech; it becomes regulation of
    speaking or publishing as such, subject to the First
    Amendment’s command that ‘Congress shall make no
    law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.’”);
    Robert Post, Informed Consent to Abortion: A First
    Amendment Analysis of Compelled Physician Speech,
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    2007 U. Ill. L. Rev. 939, 949 (2007) (“When a physician
    speaks to the public, his opinions cannot be censored and
    suppressed, even if they are at odds with preponderant
    opinion within the medical establishment.”); cf. Bailey v.
    Huggins Diagnostic & Rehab. Ctr., Inc., 
    952 P.2d 768
    , 773
    (Colo. Ct. App. 1997) (holding that the First Amendment
    does not permit a court to hold a dentist liable for statements
    published in a book or made during a news program, even
    when those statements are contrary to the opinion of the
    medical establishment). That principle makes sense because
    communicating to the public on matters of public concern lies
    at the core of First Amendment values. See, e.g., Snyder v.
    Phelps, 
    131 S. Ct. 1207
    , 1215 (2011) (“Speech on matters of
    public concern is at the heart of the First Amendment’s
    protection.” (internal quotation markets, brackets, and ellipsis
    omitted)). Thus, outside the doctor-patient relationship,
    doctors are constitutionally equivalent to soapbox orators and
    pamphleteers, and their speech receives robust protection
    under the First Amendment.
    At the midpoint of the continuum, within the confines of
    a professional relationship, First Amendment protection of a
    professional’s speech is somewhat diminished. For example,
    in Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v.
    Casey, 
    505 U.S. 833
    , 884 (1992), the plurality upheld a
    requirement that doctors disclose truthful, nonmisleading
    information to patients about certain risks of abortion:
    All that is left of petitioners’ argument is
    an asserted First Amendment right of a
    physician not to provide information about the
    risks of abortion, and childbirth, in a manner
    mandated by the State. To be sure, the
    physician’s First Amendment rights not to
    36                       PICKUP V. BROWN
    speak are implicated, but only as part of the
    practice of medicine, subject to reasonable
    licensing and regulation by the State. We see
    no constitutional infirmity in the requirement
    that the physician provide the information
    mandated by the State here.[4]
    (Citations omitted; emphasis added.)               Outside the
    professional relationship, such a requirement would almost
    certainly be considered impermissible compelled speech. Cf.
    Wooley v. Maynard, 
    430 U.S. 705
    , 717 (1977) (holding that
    a state could not require a person to display the state motto on
    his or her license plate).
    Moreover, doctors are routinely held liable for giving
    negligent medical advice to their patients, without serious
    suggestion that the First Amendment protects their right to
    give advice that is not consistent with the accepted standard
    of care. A doctor “may not counsel a patient to rely on quack
    medicine. The First Amendment would not prohibit the
    doctor’s loss of license for doing so.” Conant v. McCaffrey,
    No. C 97-00139 WHA, 
    2000 WL 1281174
    , at *13 (N.D. Cal.
    Sept. 7, 2000) (order) (unpublished); see also Shea v. Bd. of
    Med. Exam’rs, 
    146 Cal. Rptr. 653
    , 662 (Ct. App. 1978) (“The
    state’s obligation and power to protect its citizens by
    regulation of the professional conduct of its health
    practitioners is well settled. . . . [T]he First Amendment . . .
    does not insulate the verbal charlatan from responsibility for
    4
    Although the plurality opinion garnered only three votes, four
    additional justices would have upheld the challenged law in its entirety.
    
    Casey, 505 U.S. at 944
    (Rehnquist, C.J., concurring in the judgment in
    part and dissenting in part). Thus, there were seven votes to uphold the
    disclosure requirement.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                         37
    his conduct; nor does it impede the State in the proper
    exercise of its regulatory functions.” (citations omitted)); cf.
    Post, 2007 U. Ill. L. Rev. at 949 (“[W]hen a physician speaks
    to a patient in the course of medical treatment, his opinions
    are normally regulated on the theory that they are inseparable
    from the practice of medicine.”). And a lawyer may be
    disciplined for divulging confidences of his client, even
    though such disclosure is pure speech. See, e.g., In re
    Isaacson, State Bar Court of California, Case No. 08-O-
    10684, 
    2012 WL 6589666
    , at *4–5 (Dec. 6, 2012)
    (unpublished) (noting prior suspension of bar license for
    failure to preserve client confidences). Thus, the First
    Amendment tolerates a substantial amount of speech
    regulation within the professional-client relationship that it
    would not tolerate outside of it. And that toleration makes
    sense: When professionals, by means of their state-issued
    licenses, form relationships with clients, the purpose of those
    relationships is to advance the welfare of the clients, rather
    than to contribute to public debate. Cf. 
    Lowe, 472 U.S. at 232
    (White, J., concurring) (“One who takes the affairs of a client
    personally in hand and purports to exercise judgment on
    behalf of the client in the light of the client’s individual needs
    and circumstances is properly viewed as engaging in the
    practice of a profession.”).
    At the other end of the continuum, and where we
    conclude that SB 1172 lands, is the regulation of professional
    conduct, where the state’s power is great, even though such
    regulation may have an incidental effect on speech. See 
    id. (“Just as
    offer and acceptance are communications incidental
    to the regulable transaction called a contract, the
    professional’s speech is incidental to the conduct of the
    profession.”). Most, if not all, medical and mental health
    treatments require speech, but that fact does not give rise to
    38                   PICKUP V. BROWN
    a First Amendment claim when the state bans a particular
    treatment. When a drug is banned, for example, a doctor who
    treats patients with that drug does not have a First
    Amendment right to speak the words necessary to provide or
    administer the banned drug. Cf. 
    Conant, 309 F.3d at 634
    –35
    (noting the government’s authority to ban prescription of
    marijuana). Were it otherwise, then any prohibition of a
    particular medical treatment would raise First Amendment
    concerns because of its incidental effect on speech. Such an
    application of the First Amendment would restrict unduly the
    states’ power to regulate licensed professions and would be
    inconsistent with the principle that “it has never been deemed
    an abridgement of freedom of speech or press to make a
    course of conduct illegal merely because the conduct was in
    part initiated, evidenced, or carried out by means of language,
    either spoken, written, or printed.” 
    Giboney, 336 U.S. at 502
    .
    Senate Bill 1172 regulates conduct. It bans a form of
    treatment for minors; it does nothing to prevent licensed
    therapists from discussing the pros and cons of SOCE with
    their patients. Senate Bill 1172 merely prohibits licensed
    mental health providers from engaging in SOCE with minors.
    It is the limited reach of SB 1172 that distinguishes the
    present cases from Conant, in which the government’s policy
    prohibited speech wholly apart from the actual provision of
    treatment. Pursuant to its police power, California has
    authority to regulate licensed mental health providers’
    administration of therapies that the legislature has deemed
    harmful. Under 
    Giboney, 336 U.S. at 502
    , the fact that
    speech may be used to carry out those therapies does not turn
    the regulation of conduct into a regulation of speech. In fact,
    the Welch Plaintiffs concede that the state has the power to
    ban aversive types of SOCE. And we reject the position of
    the Pickup Plaintiffs—asserted during oral argument—that
    PICKUP V. BROWN                             39
    even a ban on aversive types of SOCE requires heightened
    scrutiny because of the incidental effect on speech.5 Here,
    unlike in 
    Conant, 309 F.3d at 639
    , the law allows discussions
    about treatment, recommendations to obtain treatment, and
    expressions of opinions about SOCE and homosexuality.
    Plaintiffs contend that Holder v. Humanitarian Law
    Project, 
    130 S. Ct. 2705
    (2010), supports their position. It
    does not.
    As we have explained, SB 1172 regulates only
    (1) therapeutic treatment, not expressive speech, by
    (2) licensed mental health professionals acting within the
    confines of the counselor-client relationship. The statute does
    not restrain Plaintiffs from imparting information or
    disseminating opinions; the regulated activities are
    therapeutic, not symbolic. And an act that “symbolizes
    nothing,” even if employing language, is not “an act of
    communication” that transforms conduct into First
    Amendment speech. Nev. Comm’n on Ethics v. Carrigan,
    
    131 S. Ct. 2343
    , 2350 (2011). Indeed, it is well recognized
    that a state enjoys considerable latitude to regulate the
    conduct of its licensed health care professionals in
    administering treatment. See, e.g., Gonzales v. Carhart,
    
    550 U.S. 124
    , 157 (2007) (“Under our precedents it is clear
    the State has a significant role to play in regulating the
    medical profession.”).
    5
    We do not mean to suggest that any Plaintiff here conducts aversive
    SOCE therapy. The record shows that Plaintiffs who are licensed mental
    health providers practice SOCE only through talk therapy. We mention
    aversive techniques merely to highlight the state’s legitimate power to
    regulate professional conduct.
    40                       PICKUP V. BROWN
    In sharp contrast, Humanitarian Law Project pertains to
    a different issue entirely: the regulation of (1) political
    speech (2) by ordinary citizens. The plaintiffs there sought to
    communicate information about international law and
    advocacy to a designated terrorist organization. The federal
    statute at issue barred them from doing so, because it
    considered the plaintiffs’ expression to be material support to
    terrorists. As the Supreme Court held, the material support
    statute triggered rigorous First Amendment review because,
    even if that statute “generally functions as a regulation of
    conduct . . . as applied to plaintiffs the conduct triggering
    coverage under the statute consists of communicating a
    message.” Humanitarian Law 
    Project, 130 S. Ct. at 2724
    (second emphasis added).6 Again, SB 1172 does not prohibit
    Plaintiffs from “communicating a message.” 
    Id. It is
    a state
    regulation governing the conduct of state-licensed
    professionals, and it does not pertain to communication in the
    public sphere. Plaintiffs may express their views to anyone,
    including minor patients and their parents, about any subject,
    including SOCE, insofar as SB 1172 is concerned. The only
    thing that a licensed professional cannot do is avoid
    professional discipline for practicing SOCE on a minor
    patient.
    This case is more akin to FAIR II. There, the Supreme
    Court emphasized that it “extended First Amendment
    protection only to conduct that is inherently 
    expressive.” 547 U.S. at 66
    (emphasis added). The Court upheld the
    Solomon Amendment, which conditioned federal funding for
    institutions of higher education on their offering military
    recruiters the same access to campus and students that they
    6
    We also note that Plaintiffs here bring a facial, not an as-applied,
    challenge to SB 1172.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                        41
    provided to nonmilitary recruiters. The Court held that the
    statute did not implicate First Amendment scrutiny, even as
    applied to law schools seeking to express disagreement with
    military policy by limiting military recruiters’ access,
    reasoning that the law schools’ “actions were expressive only
    because the law schools accompanied their conduct with
    speech explaining it.” 
    Id. at 51,
    66. Like the conduct at issue
    in FAIR II, the administration of psychotherapy is not
    “inherently expressive.” Nor does SB 1172 prohibit any
    speech, either in favor of or in opposition to SOCE, that
    might accompany mental health treatment. Because SB 1172
    regulates a professional practice that is not inherently
    expressive, it does not implicate the First Amendment.
    We further conclude that the First Amendment does not
    prevent a state from regulating treatment even when that
    treatment is performed through speech alone. As we have
    already held in NAAP, talk therapy does not receive special
    First Amendment protection merely because it is
    administered through 
    speech. 228 F.3d at 1054
    . That
    holding rested on the understanding of talk therapy as “the
    treatment of emotional suffering and depression, not speech.”
    
    Id. (internal quotation
    marks omitted) (first emphasis added).
    Thus, under NAAP, to the extent that talk therapy implicates
    speech, it stands on the same First Amendment footing as
    other forms of medical or mental health treatment. Senate
    Bill 1172 is subject to deferential review just as are other
    regulations of the practice of medicine.
    Our conclusion is consistent with NAAP’s statement that
    “communication that occurs during psychoanalysis is entitled
    to constitutional protection, but it is not immune from
    regulation.” 
    Id. Certainly, under
    Conant, content- or
    viewpoint-based regulation of communication about
    42                        PICKUP V. BROWN
    treatment must be closely scrutinized. But a regulation of
    only treatment itself—whether physical medicine or mental
    health treatment—implicates free speech interests only
    incidentally, if at all. To read NAAP otherwise would
    contradict its holding that talk therapy is not entitled to
    “special First Amendment protection,” and it would, in fact,
    make talk therapy virtually “immune from regulation.” 
    Id. Nor does
    NAAP’s discussion of content and viewpoint
    discrimination change our conclusion. There, we used both
    a belt and suspenders. In addition to holding that the
    licensing scheme at issue was a permissible regulation of
    conduct, we reasoned that even if California’s licensing
    requirements implicated First Amendment interests, the
    requirements did not discriminate on the basis of content or
    viewpoint. 
    Id. at 1053
    , 1055–56. But here, SB 1172
    regulates only treatment, and nothing in NAAP requires us to
    analyze a regulation of treatment in terms of content and
    viewpoint discrimination.7
    Because SB 1172 regulates only treatment, while leaving
    mental health providers free to discuss and recommend, or
    recommend against, SOCE, we conclude that any effect it
    may have on free speech interests is merely incidental.
    Therefore, we hold that SB 1172 is subject to only rational
    basis review and must be upheld if it bears a rational
    relationship to a legitimate state interest. See 
    Casey, 505 U.S. at 884
    , 967–68 (a plurality of three justices, plus four
    additional justices concurring in part and dissenting in part,
    7
    We acknowledge that Plaintiffs ask us to apply strict scrutiny, but they
    have not cited any case in which a court has applied strict scrutiny to the
    regulation of a medical or mental health treatment. Nor are we aware of
    any.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                             43
    applied a reasonableness standard to the regulation of
    medicine where speech may be implicated incidentally).
    According to the statute, SB 1172 advances California’s
    interest in “protecting the physical and psychological well-
    being of minors, including lesbian, gay, bisexual and
    transgender youth, and in protecting its minors against
    exposure to serious harms caused by sexual orientation
    change efforts.” 2012 Cal. Legis. Serv. ch. 835, § 1(n).
    Without a doubt, protecting the well-being of minors is a
    legitimate state interest. And we need not decide whether
    SOCE actually causes “serious harms”; it is enough that it
    could “reasonably be conceived to be true by the
    governmental decisionmaker.” 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1050
    (internal quotation marks omitted).
    The record demonstrates that the legislature acted
    rationally when it decided to protect the well-being of minors
    by prohibiting mental health providers from using SOCE on
    persons under 18.8 The legislature relied on the report of the
    Task Force of the American Psychological Association,
    which concluded that SOCE has not been demonstrated to be
    effective and that there have been anecdotal reports of harm,
    including depression, suicidal thoughts or actions, and
    substance abuse. The legislature also relied on the opinions
    of many other professional organizations. Each of those
    organizations opposed the use of SOCE, concluding, among
    8
    We need not and do not decide whether the legislature would have
    acted rationally had it banned SOCE for adults. One could argue that
    children under the age of 18 are especially vulnerable with respect to
    sexual identity and that their parents’ judgment may be clouded by this
    emotionally charged issue as well. The considerations with respect to
    adults may be different.
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    other things, that homosexuality is not an illness and does not
    require treatment (American School Counselor Association),
    SOCE therapy can provoke guilt and anxiety (American
    Academy of Pediatrics), it may be harmful (National
    Association of Social Workers), and it may contribute to an
    enduring sense of stigma and self-criticism (American
    Psychoanalytic Association). Although the legislature also
    had before it some evidence that SOCE is safe and effective,
    the overwhelming consensus was that SOCE was harmful and
    ineffective. On this record, we have no trouble concluding
    that the legislature acted rationally by relying on that
    consensus.
    Plaintiffs argue that the legislature acted irrationally when
    it banned SOCE for minors because there is a lack of
    scientifically credible proof of harm. But, under rational
    basis review, “[w]e ask only whether there are plausible
    reasons for [the legislature’s] action, and if there are, our
    inquiry is at an end.” Romero-Ochoa v. Holder, 
    712 F.3d 1328
    , 1331 (9th Cir. 2013) (internal quotation marks
    omitted).
    Therefore, we hold that SB 1172 is rationally related to
    the legitimate government interest of protecting the well-
    being of minors.9
    9
    The foregoing discussion relates as well to the Pickup Plaintiffs’ claim
    that SB 1172 violates minors’ right to receive information. See Monteiro
    v. Tempe Union High Sch. Dist., 
    158 F.3d 1022
    , 1027 n.5 (9th Cir. 1998)
    (recognizing the “well-established rule that the right to receive
    information is an inherent corollary of the rights of free speech and
    press”).
    PICKUP V. BROWN                               45
    B. Expressive Association
    We also reject the Pickup Plaintiffs’ argument that SB
    1172 implicates their right to freedom of association because
    the First Amendment protects their “choices to enter into and
    maintain the intimate human relationships between
    counselors and clients.”10
    First, SB 1172 does not prevent mental health providers
    and clients from entering into and maintaining therapeutic
    relationships. It prohibits only “practices . . . that seek to
    change [a minor] individual’s sexual orientation.” Cal. Bus.
    & Prof. Code § 865(b)(1). Therapists are free, but not
    obligated, to provide therapeutic services, as long as they do
    not “seek to change [the] sexual orientation” of minor clients.
    Moreover, the therapist-client relationship is not the type
    of relationship that the freedom of association has been held
    to protect. The Supreme Court’s decisions “have referred to
    constitutionally protected ‘freedom of association’ in two
    distinct senses.” Roberts v. U.S. Jaycees, 
    468 U.S. 609
    , 617
    (1984). The first type of protected association concerns
    “intimate human relationships,” which are implicated in
    personal decisions about marriage, childbirth, raising
    10
    The Pickup Plaintiffs arguably waived their expressive association
    argument by not raising it in the district court. But “the rule of waiver is
    a discretionary one.” Ruiz v. Affinity Logistics Corp., 
    667 F.3d 1318
    , 1322
    (9th Cir. 2012) (internal quotation marks omitted). We have discretion to
    address an argument that otherwise would be waived “when the issue
    presented is purely one of law and either does not depend on the factual
    record developed below, or the pertinent record has been fully developed.”
    
    Id. (internal quotation
    marks omitted). Whether SB 1172 violates the right
    to expressive association is such an issue, and we exercise our discretion
    to address it.
    46                    PICKUP V. BROWN
    children, cohabiting with relatives, and the like. 
    Id. at 617–19.
    That type of freedom of association “receives
    protection as a fundamental element of personal liberty.” 
    Id. at 618.
    The second type protects association “for the purpose
    of engaging in those activities protected by the First
    Amendment—speech, assembly, petition for the redress of
    grievances, and the exercise of religion.” 
    Id. at 618.
    Plaintiffs in Pickup claim an infringement of only the first
    type of freedom of association.
    Although we have not specifically addressed the
    therapist-client relationship in terms of freedom of
    association, we have explained why the therapist-client
    relationship is not protected by the Due Process Clause of the
    Fourteenth Amendment: “The relationship between a client
    and psychoanalyst lasts only as long as the client is willing to
    pay the fee. Even if analysts and clients meet regularly and
    clients reveal secrets and emotional thoughts to their analysts,
    these relationships simply do not rise to the level of a
    fundamental right.” 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1050
    (internal
    quotation marks and citation omitted). Because the type of
    associational protection that the Pickup Plaintiffs claim is
    rooted in “personal liberty,” U.S. 
    Jaycees, 468 U.S. at 618
    ,
    and because we have already determined that the therapist-
    client relationship does not “implicate the fundamental rights
    associated with . . . close-knit relationships,” 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1050
    , we conclude that the freedom of association also
    does not encompass the therapist-client relationship.
    PICKUP V. BROWN                        47
    C. Vagueness
    We next hold that SB 1172 is not void for vagueness.
    “It is a basic principle of due process that an enactment is
    void for vagueness if its prohibitions are not clearly defined.”
    Grayned v. City of Rockford, 
    408 U.S. 104
    , 108 (1972).
    Nevertheless, “perfect clarity and precise guidance have
    never been required even of regulations that restrict
    expressive activity.” Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 
    491 U.S. 781
    , 794 (1989). “[U]ncertainty at a statute’s margins will
    not warrant facial invalidation if it is clear what the statute
    proscribes ‘in the vast majority of its intended applications.’”
    Cal. Teachers Ass’n v. State Bd. of Educ., 
    271 F.3d 1141
    ,
    1151 (9th Cir. 2001) (quoting Hill v. Colorado, 
    530 U.S. 703
    ,
    733 (2000)). “A defendant is deemed to have fair notice of
    an offense if a reasonable person of ordinary intelligence
    would understand that his or her conduct is prohibited by the
    law in question.” United States v. Weitzenhoff, 
    35 F.3d 1275
    ,
    1289 (9th Cir. 1994) (internal quotation marks omitted). But,
    “if the statutory prohibition involves conduct of a select
    group of persons having specialized knowledge, and the
    challenged phraseology is indigenous to the idiom of that
    class, the standard is lowered and a court may uphold a
    statute which uses words or phrases having a technical or
    other special meaning, well enough known to enable those
    within its reach to correctly apply them.” 
    Id. (internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    Although the Pickup Plaintiffs argue that they cannot
    ascertain where the line is between what is prohibited and
    what is permitted—for example, they wonder whether the
    mere dissemination of information about SOCE would
    subject them to discipline—the text of SB 1172 is clear to a
    48                   PICKUP V. BROWN
    reasonable person. Discipline attaches only to “practices”
    that “seek to change” a minor “patient[‘s]” sexual orientation.
    Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code §§ 865-865.1. A reasonable person
    would understand the statute to regulate only mental health
    treatment, including psychotherapy, that aims to alter a minor
    patient’s sexual orientation. Although Plaintiffs present
    various hypothetical situations to support their vagueness
    challenge, the Supreme Court has held that “speculation
    about possible vagueness in hypothetical situations not before
    the Court will not support a facial attack on a statute when it
    is surely valid in the vast majority of its intended
    applications.” 
    Hill, 530 U.S. at 733
    (internal quotation marks
    omitted).
    Moreover, considering that SB 1172 regulates licensed
    mental health providers, who constitute “a select group of
    persons having specialized knowledge,” the standard for
    clarity is lower. 
    Weitzenhoff, 35 F.3d at 1289
    . Indeed, it is
    hard to understand how therapists who identify themselves as
    SOCE practitioners can credibly argue that they do not
    understand what practices qualify as SOCE.
    Neither is the term “sexual orientation” vague. Its
    meaning is clear enough to a reasonable person and should be
    even more apparent to mental health providers. In fact,
    several provisions in the California Code—though not SB
    1172 itself—provide a simple definition: “heterosexuality,
    homosexuality, or bisexuality.” Cal. Educ. Code §§ 212.6,
    66262.7; Cal. Gov’t Code § 12926®; Cal. Penal Code
    §§ 422.56(h), 11410(b)(7). Moreover, courts have repeatedly
    rejected vagueness challenges that rest on the term “sexual
    orientation.” E.g., United States v. Jenkins, 
    909 F. Supp. 2d 758
    , 778–79 (E.D. Ky. 2012); Hyman v. City of Louisville,
    PICKUP V. BROWN                                49
    
    132 F. Supp. 2d 528
    , 546 (W.D. Ky. 2001), vacated on other
    grounds, 53 F. App’x 740 (6th Cir. 2002) (unpublished).
    D. Overbreadth
    We further hold that SB 1172 is not overbroad.11
    Overbreadth doctrine permits the facial invalidation of
    laws that prohibit “a substantial amount of constitutionally
    protected speech.” City of Houston v. Hill, 
    482 U.S. 451
    , 466
    (1987). “[T]he mere fact that one can conceive of some
    impermissible applications of a statute is not sufficient to
    render it susceptible to an overbreadth challenge.” Members
    of City Council v. Taxpayers for Vincent, 
    466 U.S. 789
    , 800
    (1984). Rather, “particularly where conduct and not merely
    speech is involved, . . . the overbreadth of a statute must not
    only be real, but substantial as well, judged in relation to the
    statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.” Broadrick v. Oklahoma,
    
    413 U.S. 601
    , 615 (1973).
    Senate Bill 1172’s plainly legitimate sweep includes
    SOCE techniques such as inducing vomiting or paralysis,
    administering electric shocks, and performing castrations.
    And, as explained above, it also includes SOCE techniques
    carried out solely through words. As with any regulation of
    a particular medical or mental health treatment, there may be
    11
    Intervenor Equality California argues that the Pickup Plaintiffs waived
    their overbreadth challenge by failing to raise it adequately in the district
    court. Although they did not argue overbreadth with specificity, they did
    allege it in their complaint and in their memorandum in support of
    preliminary injunctive relief. Moreover, whether the statute is overbroad
    is a question of law that “does not depend on the factual record developed
    below.” 
    Ruiz, 667 F.3d at 1322
    . Therefore, we exercise our discretion to
    address Plaintiffs’ overbreadth challenge.
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    an incidental effect on speech. Any incidental effect,
    however, is small in comparison with the “plainly legitimate
    sweep” of the law. 
    Broadrick, 413 U.S. at 615
    .
    Thus, SB 1172 is not overbroad.
    E. Parents’ Fundamental Rights
    The Pickup Plaintiffs also argue that SB 1172 infringes on
    their fundamental parental right to make important medical
    decisions for their children. The state does not dispute that
    parents have a fundamental right to raise their children as
    they see fit, but argues that Plaintiffs “cannot compel the
    State to permit licensed mental health [professionals] to
    engage in unsafe practices, and cannot dictate the prevailing
    standard of care in California based on their own views.”
    Because Plaintiffs argue for an affirmative right to access
    SOCE therapy from licensed mental health providers, the
    precise question at issue is whether parents’ fundamental
    rights include the right to choose for their children a
    particular type of provider for a particular medical or mental
    health treatment that the state has deemed harmful. See
    Washington v. Glucksberg, 
    521 U.S. 702
    , 720–21 (1997)
    (holding that courts should precisely define purported
    substantive due process rights to direct and restrain
    exposition of the Due Process Clause).
    Parents have a constitutionally protected right to make
    decisions regarding the care, custody, and control of their
    children, but that right is “not without limitations.” Fields v.
    Palmdale Sch. Dist., 
    427 F.3d 1197
    , 1204 (9th Cir. 2005).
    States may require school attendance and mandatory school
    uniforms, and they may impose curfew laws applicable only
    to minors. See 
    id. at 1204–05
    (collecting cases demonstrating
    PICKUP V. BROWN                         51
    the “wide variety of state actions that intrude upon the liberty
    interest of parents in controlling the upbringing and education
    of their children”). In the health arena, states may require the
    compulsory vaccination of children (subject to some
    exceptions), see Prince v. Massachusetts, 
    321 U.S. 158
    , 166
    (1944), and states may intervene when a parent refuses
    necessary medical care for a child, see Jehovah’s Witnesses
    v. King Cnty. Hosp., 
    278 F. Supp. 488
    , 504 (W.D. Wash.
    1967) (three-judge panel) (per curiam), aff’d, 
    390 U.S. 598
    (1968) (per curiam). “[A] state is not without constitutional
    control over parental discretion in dealing with children when
    their physical or mental health is jeopardized.” Parham v.
    J.R., 
    442 U.S. 584
    , 603 (1979).
    We are unaware of any case that specifically addresses
    whether a parent’s fundamental rights encompass the right to
    choose for a child a particular type of provider for a particular
    treatment that the state has deemed harmful, but courts that
    have considered whether patients have the right to choose
    specific treatments for themselves have concluded that they
    do not. For example, we have held that “substantive due
    process rights do not extend to the choice of type of treatment
    or of a particular health care provider.” 
    NAAP, 228 F.3d at 1050
    . Thus, we concluded that “there is no fundamental right
    to choose a mental health professional with specific training.”
    
    Id. The Seventh
    Circuit has also held that “a patient does not
    have a constitutional right to obtain a particular type of
    treatment or to obtain treatment from a particular provider if
    the government has reasonably prohibited that type of
    treatment or provider.” Mitchell v. Clayton, 
    995 F.2d 772
    ,
    775 (7th Cir. 1993). Moreover, courts have held that there is
    no substantive due process right to obtain drugs that the FDA
    has not approved, Carnohan v. United States, 
    616 F.2d 1120
    ,
    1122 (9th Cir. 1980) (per curiam), even when those drugs are
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    sought by terminally ill cancer patients, see Rutherford v.
    United States, 
    616 F.2d 455
    , 457 (10th Cir. 1980) (“It is
    apparent in the context with which we are here concerned that
    the decision by the patient whether to have a treatment or not
    is a protected right, but his selection of a particular treatment,
    or at least a medication, is within the area of governmental
    interest in protecting public health.”). Those cases cut against
    recognizing the right that Plaintiffs assert; it would be odd if
    parents had a substantive due process right to choose specific
    treatments for their children—treatments that reasonably have
    been deemed harmful by the state—but not for themselves.
    It would be all the more anomalous because the Supreme
    Court has recognized that the state has greater power over
    children than over adults. 
    Prince, 321 U.S. at 170
    (stating
    that “the power of the state to control the conduct of children
    reaches beyond the scope of its authority over adults”).
    Further, our decision in Fields counsels against
    recognizing the right that Plaintiffs assert. In that case,
    parents of school children argued that a school violated their
    parental rights when it administered to students a survey that
    contained several questions about sex. 
    Fields, 427 F.3d at 1203
    . We rejected that argument, holding that, although
    parents have the right to inform their children about sex when
    and as they choose, they do not have the right to “compel
    public schools to follow their own idiosyncratic views as to
    what information the schools may dispense.” 
    Id. at 1206.
    Similarly, here, to recognize the right Plaintiffs assert would
    be to compel the California legislature, in shaping its
    regulation of mental health providers, to accept Plaintiffs’
    personal views of what therapy is safe and effective for
    minors. The aforementioned cases lead us to conclude that
    the fundamental rights of parents do not include the right to
    choose a specific type of provider for a specific medical or
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    mental health treatment that the state has reasonably deemed
    harmful.
    Therefore, SB 1172 does not infringe on the fundamental
    rights of parents.
    CONCLUSION
    Senate Bill 1172 survives the constitutional challenges
    presented here. Accordingly, the order granting preliminary
    relief in Welch, No. 13-15023, is REVERSED, and the order
    denying preliminary relief in Pickup, No. 12-17681, is
    AFFIRMED. We remand both cases for further proceedings
    consistent with this opinion.
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 12-17681

Filed Date: 1/29/2014

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 10/30/2014

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