Amy Hughes v. Andrew Kisela ( 2017 )


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  •                       FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    AMY HUGHES,                                       No. 14-15059
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    D.C. No.
    v.                         4:11-cv-00366-FRZ
    ANDREW KISELA, Corporal,
    0203; individually and in his                     ORDER AND
    official capacity,                                 AMENDED
    Defendant-Appellee.                   OPINION
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the District of Arizona
    Frank R. Zapata, District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted September 12, 2016
    San Francisco, California
    Filed November 28, 2016
    Amended June 27, 2017
    Before: Ronald M. Gould and Marsha S. Berzon, Circuit
    Judges, and William K. Sessions III,* District Judge.
    *
    The Honorable William K. Sessions III, United States District Judge
    for the District of Vermont, sitting by designation.
    2                        HUGHES V. KISELA
    Order Amending Opinion;
    Order Denying Petition for Rehearing En Banc;
    Concurrence in Order Denying Petition for Rehearing En
    Banc;
    Dissent to Order Denying Petition for Rehearing En Banc;
    Opinion by Judge Sessions
    SUMMARY**
    Civil Rights
    The panel amended the opinion, filed on November 28,
    2016, and on behalf of the court denied the petition for
    rehearing en banc.
    In the amended opinion, the panel reversed the district
    court’s summary judgment in favor of a University of
    Arizona police officer and remanded in a 42 U.S.C. § 1983
    action in which plaintiff alleged that the officer used
    excessive force when he shot her four times.
    Judge Berzon, joined by Judge Gould, concurred in the
    denial of rehearing en banc, and wrote separately to address
    arguments in Judge Ikuta’s dissent from the denial of
    rehearing en banc.
    Judge Ikuta, joined by Judges Kozinski, Tallman, Bybee,
    Callahan, Bea, and N.R. Smith, dissented from the denial of
    rehearing en banc because the panel opinion took a path
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    contrary to the Supreme Court’s direction on the proper
    application of the qualified immunity doctrine in the Fourth
    Amendment context.
    COUNSEL
    Vince Rabago (argued), Stacy Scheff, and Norma Kristine
    Rabago, Vince Rabago Law Office PLC, Tucson, Arizona,
    for Plaintiff-Appellant.
    Robert R. McCright (argued), Assistant Attorney General;
    Mark Brnovich, Arizona Attorney General; Office of the
    Attorney General, Tucson, Arizona; for Defendant-Appellee.
    ORDER
    The opinion filed November 28, 2016, is amended as
    follows:
    1. At page 14 of the slip opinion, add “(en banc)” after
    the citation “Mattos v. Agarano, 
    661 F.3d 433
    , 442 (9th Cir.
    2011).”
    2. At page 15 of the slip opinion, add a footnote after
    “this Court remanded Glenn for a jury trial.” The footnote in
    the amended opinion should state:
    Glenn was decided on summary judgment
    after the incident that gave rise to this case. It
    concerned a shooting that occurred in 2006.
    The panel in Glenn concluded that “resolution
    of . . . [genuine factual] issues is crucial to a
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    proper determination of the officers’
    entitlement to qualified immunity,” and
    remanded the question whether the right was
    clearly established at the time of the alleged
    misconduct, to be decided “after the material
    factual disputes have been decided by the
    
    jury.” 673 F.3d at 871
    . Although the panel
    stated that it was “[expressing] no opinion on
    the second part of the qualified immunity
    analysis,” the remand for trial would have
    been improper were the officers entitled to
    qualified immunity on the facts most
    favorable to the plaintiff. See 
    Mattos, 661 F.3d at 445
    –48, 452. We therefore read
    Glenn as at least suggestive of the state of the
    clearly established law at the time it was
    decided.
    In any event, we rely on Glenn as
    illustrative, not as indicative of the clearly
    established law in 2010. See Berzon, J.,
    concurring in the denial of rehearing en banc,
    at 9–12.
    3. At page 17 of the slip opinion, delete the “Glenn and
    Deorle” and replace it with “Deorle and Harris.”
    No new Petition for Panel Rehearing or Petition for
    Rehearing en Banc will be entertained.
    HUGHES V. KISELA                               5
    ORDER
    Judges Gould and Berzon voted to deny the petition for
    rehearing en banc, and Judge Sessions so recommended.
    The full court was advised of the petition for rehearing en
    banc. A judge requested a vote on whether to rehear the
    matter en banc. The matter failed to receive a majority of the
    votes of the nonrecused active judges in favor of en banc
    consideration. Fed. R. App. P. 35.
    The petition for rehearing en banc is DENIED.
    BERZON, Circuit Judge, with whom GOULD, Circuit Judge,
    joins, concurring in the denial of rehearing en banc: ***
    I write separately to address the arguments in Judge
    Ikuta’s dissent from the denial of rehearing en banc.
    The dissent’s principal complaint is that the panel
    characterized the relevant constitutional right at too high a
    level of generality. That is incorrect. The dissent proposes
    that the panel failed adequately to consider the “specific
    context” of the circumstances facing Corporal Andrew
    Kisela. That is mistaken. And the dissent suggests that
    qualified immunity is available in an excessive force case
    only where there is an identical or nearly identical prior case
    ***
    Judge William K. Sessions III, a visiting judge from the District
    of Vermont sitting by designation, was a member of the three-judge panel
    that decided this case and the author of the Panel’s opinion. Judge
    Sessions agrees with the views expressed in this opinion.
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    which held that force was excessive. That understanding is
    directly contrary to the Supreme Court’s repeated recognition
    that no case is likely to be directly on point factually, so the
    qualified immunity inquiry must be whether existing
    precedent places the constitutional question beyond debate.
    1. The Supreme Court has indeed advised lower courts
    construing claims of qualified immunity in excessive force
    cases “not to define clearly established law at a high level of
    generality.” Plumhoff v. Rickard, 
    134 S. Ct. 2012
    , 2023
    (2014) (quoting Ashcroft v. al-Kidd, 
    563 U.S. 731
    , 742
    (2011)). The import of that instruction is, as the Court has
    explained, that “doing so avoids the crucial question whether
    the official acted reasonably in the particular circumstances
    that he or she faced.” 
    Id. The panel’s
    opinion could not
    reasonably be characterized as avoiding that “crucial
    question.” Nor, in defining the relevant constitutional right
    at issue, did the panel rely simply on the general, abstract
    principle set forth in Tennessee v. Garner, 
    471 U.S. 1
    (1985),
    that “deadly force is only permissible where the officer has
    probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of
    serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others,” as
    the Supreme Court has cautioned us not to do. Mullenix v.
    Luna, 
    136 S. Ct. 305
    , 309 (2015) (per curiam) (citation
    omitted). Nowhere did the panel define the relevant right as
    the “right to be free of excessive force,” as the dissent
    incorrectly asserts in its opening lines.
    Instead, the panel held that our precedents clearly
    established a far more specific constitutional right: that under
    the Fourth Amendment, a mentally disturbed individual who
    had committed no known crime, was not acting erratically
    when encountered by police, and presented no objective
    threat to officers or third parties may “walk down her
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    driveway holding a knife without being shot.” Hughes v.
    Kisela, 
    841 F.3d 1081
    , 1090 (9th Cir. 2016). Taking the facts
    in the light most favorable to Hughes, that is what happened
    in this case. On those facts, the panel held, no reasonable
    police officer could have thought that shooting Hughes was
    constitutionally permissible.
    The inverse of a “high level of generality” is not, as the
    dissent suggests, a previous case with facts identical those in
    the instant case – because, of course, no two cases are exactly
    alike. The Supreme Court has repeatedly stated that “[w]e do
    not require a case directly on point, but existing precedent
    must have placed the statutory or constitutional question
    beyond debate.” 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    (quoting al-
    
    Kidd, 563 U.S. at 741
    ); see also White v. Pauly, 
    137 S. Ct. 548
    , 551 (2017) (per curiam). Were the rule otherwise, as we
    have previously observed, “officers would escape
    responsibility for the most egregious forms of conduct simply
    because there was no case on all fours prohibiting that
    particular manifestation of unconstitutional conduct.” Deorle
    v. Rutherford, 
    272 F.3d 1272
    , 1286 (9th Cir. 2001). “If
    qualified immunity provided a shield in all novel factual
    circumstances, officials would rarely, if ever, be held
    accountable for their unreasonable violations of the Fourth
    Amendment.” Mattos v. Agarano, 
    661 F.3d 433
    , 442 (9th
    Cir. 2011) (en banc). It is thus “clear that officials can still be
    on notice that their conduct violates established law even in
    novel factual circumstances.” Hope v. Pelzer, 
    536 U.S. 730
    ,
    741 (2002).
    Consider, for example, the hypothetical case of a
    policeman who happens upon someone standing outside a
    house using a kitchen knife to chop onions at a summer
    barbecue, while chatting amicably with another woman
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    standing close by. The policeman draws his weapon and,
    twice in rapid succession, orders the individual holding the
    knife to drop it; when she does not immediately comply, the
    policeman opens fire within a few seconds and shoots the
    individual four times. There is no precedential case with
    these precise facts (although this case, when the facts are
    viewed in the light most favorable to Hughes, is not far off),
    yet our precedents as well as common sense would place
    beyond debate the question of whether that officer acted
    lawfully.
    In the absence of a precedential case with precisely the
    same facts as the case before us, we must compare the
    specific factors before the responding officers with those in
    other cases to determine whether those cases would have put
    a reasonable officer on notice that his actions were unlawful.1
    1
    Mullenix, on which the dissent places great emphasis, is wholly
    consistent with the analysis I identify here. See also City & Cty. of San
    Francisco. v. Sheehan, 
    135 S. Ct. 1765
    , 1776–77 (2015). The Supreme
    Court did not limit its qualified immunity analysis in Mullenix to the
    question of whether some facts distinguished Mullenix from the Court’s
    most analogous precedents involving excessive-force claims in high-speed
    car chases, namely Plumhoff, Scott v. Harris, 
    550 U.S. 372
    (2007), and
    Brosseau v. Haugen, 
    543 U.S. 194
    (2004). Instead, the Court compared
    the factors relevant to the excessive-force inquiry in each case
    (emphasizing, in its analysis, the potential threat posed by the suspects in
    each case). 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 309
    –10. The Court concluded that
    “[t]he threat . . . posed was at least as immediate as that” in Brosseau, and
    that although the suspect in Mullenix passed fewer cars than those in
    Plumhoff and Scott, he had also expressly threatened to kill any police
    officers in his path. 
    Id. at 310.
    In short, in coming to its conclusion that
    Mullenix did not violate clearly established law, the Court considered the
    specific facts of the case, compared those facts to the relevant facts in
    available precedential cases (with a heavy focus on the threat presented),
    and weighed whether those precedents would have placed a reasonable
    officer in Mullenix’s position on notice that his actions were unlawful –
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    That framework is precisely the one the panel applied to
    Kisela’s claim of qualified immunity. After conducting that
    inquiry, the panel concluded that this case is, given the
    pertinent precedents, squarely within – indeed, at the more
    egregious border of – the group of precedents in which
    excessive force was found.
    2. That conclusion was correct.
    We have held unconstitutional the use of deadly force
    where an individual “did not point [a] gun at the officers and
    apparently was not facing them when they shot him the first
    time.” Curnow v. Ridgecrest Police, 
    952 F.2d 321
    , 325 (9th
    Cir. 1991). We have also held that deadly force is
    impermissible against an armed suspect “who makes no
    threatening movement” or “aggressive move of any kind,”
    even where that suspect is suspected of killing a federal
    agent. Harris v. Roderick, 
    126 F.3d 1189
    , 1203 (9th Cir.
    1997). “Law enforcement officers may not shoot to kill
    unless, at a minimum, the suspect presents an immediate
    threat to the officer or others, or is fleeing and his escape will
    result in a serious threat of injury to persons.” 
    Id. at 1201
    (emphasis added). We have held that a reasonable jury could
    find a constitutional violation, even concerning the use of
    nondeadly force, where an arrestee never attacked or even
    threatened to attack a police officer. Smith v. City of Hemet,
    
    394 F.3d 689
    , 703–04 (9th Cir. 2005) (en banc). And we
    have held that “[e]very police officer should know that it is
    objectively unreasonable to shoot . . . an unarmed man who:
    has committed no serious offense, is mentally or emotionally
    disturbed, has been given no warning of the imminent use of
    such a significant degree of force, poses no risk of flight, and
    precisely what the panel did in this case.
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    presents no objectively reasonable threat to the safety of the
    officer or other individuals,” even where that individual had
    previously brandished weapons and threatened to “kick [a
    police officer’s] ass.” 
    Deorle, 272 F.3d at 1277
    , 1285.
    On the other side of the ledger, we have held that it is
    constitutionally permissible to shoot an armed, mentally
    disturbed individual who makes threatening movements;
    commits a nonviolent crime in view of police; is warned to
    drop his weapon and that he will be shot if he does not
    comply; not only ignores those commands but apparently
    “flaunt[s]” them; and then attempts to enter a private
    residence for which he has no key. Blanford v. Sacramento
    Cty., 
    406 F.3d 1110
    , 1113, 1116–19 (9th Cir. 2005).
    Taken together, our precedents as of May 21, 2010
    suggest several factors critical to the constitutional analysis.
    These include the severity of the underlying crime, if any;
    whether the individual against whom force is used was
    armed, and if so, whether her movements suggested an
    immediate threat; whether a warning has been issued, if
    practicable, and particularly whether she has been warned of
    the imminent use of a significant degree of force; whether she
    complies with such warnings, ignores them, or actively
    flaunts them; whether she poses a risk of flight; whether she
    is mentally or emotionally disturbed; and whether she makes
    any threatening statements. None of these factors is
    dispositive, but each is relevant.
    3. I turn, then, to the facts of this case taken in the light most
    favorable to Hughes, as we must do at the summary judgment
    stage. Tolan v. Cotton, 
    134 S. Ct. 1861
    , 1868 (2014) (per
    curiam). Kisela and two other police officers arrived at
    Hughes’s residence in response to a “check welfare” call –
    HUGHES V. KISELA                      11
    not a report of a crime or a threatened crime. The call
    reported that a woman matching Hughes’s description was
    seen hacking at a tree with a large knife.
    Hughes emerged from her house holding a kitchen knife
    – an everyday household item which can be used as a weapon
    but ordinarily is a tool for safe, benign purposes. Although
    the dissent makes much of Hughes’s “reportedly erratic”
    behavior, Hughes’s demeanor when Kisela encountered her
    was in fact “composed and content,” not “erratic,” as she
    exited her home and walked down her driveway. She
    engaged in conversation with another woman, Sharon
    Chadwick, the content of which Kisela did not hear. The
    only officer who did hear Hughes speak stated that she
    seemed “unfocused,” but was not shouting and did not appear
    angry.
    The police did not observe Hughes making any verbal
    threats toward Chadwick or the police (who were safe behind
    a gated fence). Nor did Hughes raise the knife from her side,
    or make any threatening or aggressive movements. After
    initially approaching Chadwick, Hughes periodically walked
    away from Chadwick before reapproaching. Kisela and the
    other officers ordered Hughes to drop the knife, but the
    officers received no indication that Hughes heard them, as she
    did not acknowledge their presence. At no time did any
    officer orally identify himself or herself as police (although
    they were in uniform), nor did they warn Hughes that they
    would shoot if she did not comply with their commands to
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    drop the knife.2 Nevertheless, within seconds after Hughes
    stepped out of her house, Kisela shot her four times.
    On these facts – many of which the dissent elides or
    ignores – no officer could have reasonably believed in light
    of our precedents that Hughes’s conduct justified the use of
    lethal force. As we held in Deorle, “[e]very police officer
    should know” that it is objectively unreasonable to shoot an
    unarmed, mentally disturbed person who has been given no
    warning about the imminent use of serious force, poses no
    risk of flight, and presents no objective imminent threat to the
    safety of others – even where that person had committed a
    minor criminal offense and threatened to assault a police
    officer, neither of which Hughes had 
    done. 272 F.3d at 1285
    .
    It is true that Hughes, unlike Deorle, held a kitchen knife.
    But it was down at her side, and she did not verbally threaten
    2
    We have held, based on longstanding Supreme Court precedent,
    that “whenever practicable,” such a warning “must be given before deadly
    force is employed.” 
    Harris, 126 F.3d at 1201
    –02 (citing 
    Garner, 471 U.S. at 11
    –12). We have recently held, in a factual situation quite similar to
    that presented here, that a failure to warn a suspect that he would be fired
    upon if he did not comply with police instructions is an important factor
    in determining the reasonableness of force. See Hayes v. Cty. of San
    Diego, 
    736 F.3d 1223
    , 1234–35 (9th Cir. 2013). Hayes, like Hughes, was
    holding a knife; he was standing six feet away from San Diego County
    sheriff’s deputies (roughly the same distance separating Hughes and
    Chadwick) and was walking toward them when the deputies opened fire.
    We held that “seen in the light most favorable to [the nonmoving party],”
    Hayes “posed no clear threat at the time he was shot without warning.”
    
    Id. at 1235.
    Cf. 
    White, 137 S. Ct. at 551
    , 552 (qualified immunity is
    warranted if an officer who arrives late on the scene and sees a suspect
    pointing a firearm at him could reasonably assume that proper police
    procedures such as officer identification and warning had already
    occurred).
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    to “kick [a police officer’s] ass” as Deorle did, nor did police
    have any basis for thinking she had committed a crime. 
    Id. at 1277.
    Our case law clearly establishes that the use of deadly
    force against a suspect simply because he is holding a gun –
    even when that suspect is in proximity to police officers or
    other individuals, and even when that suspect has “committed
    a violent crime in the immediate past”– is not ipso facto
    reasonable, particularly when that gun is not pointed at
    another individual or otherwise wielded in a threatening
    fashion. 
    Harris, 126 F.3d at 1203
    –04; 
    Curnow, 952 F.2d at 325
    . Hughes was holding a kitchen knife – again, an item
    that can be used as a weapon but normally is not – not a gun.
    And on the facts favorable to Hughes, she never raised her
    knife, pointed it toward Chadwick, made any verbal threats,
    or moved in a threatening manner toward Chadwick.
    Judge Ikuta’s emphasis on Hughes’s “reportedly erratic”
    behavior is crucial to the dissent’s formulation of what it
    considers to be the relevant alleged constitutional right in this
    case. See Dissent at 22 (“The panel should have considered
    the alleged violation as: shooting a reportedly erratic, knife-
    wielding woman who comes within striking distance of a
    third party, ignores multiple [actually two] orders to drop her
    weapon, and cannot otherwise be timely subdued due to a
    physical barrier separating her from the officer.”) (emphasis
    added). The “erratic” characterization is quite a thin reed
    upon which to base a claim of qualified immunity, as the facts
    seen in the light most favorable to Hughes make clear that she
    did not act erratically once the officers arrived. Instead, she
    was “composed and content” and did not appear angry or
    disturbed.
    It is certainly true that Hughes’s earlier, reportedly
    “erratic,” behavior toward a tree could be construed as an
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    indicator of mental instability. But there is no basis in our
    case law for treating mental illness as an aggravating factor
    in evaluating the reasonableness of force employed. To the
    contrary, we have held that the apparent mental illness of a
    suspect weighs, if anything, in the opposite direction. See
    
    Deorle, 272 F.3d at 1283
    , 1285. The approach proposed in
    the dissent suggests the reverse: that an officer’s use of
    deadly force is more reasonable where that officer is aware of
    an individual’s mental instability. That approach not only
    violates our previous refusal “to create two tracks of
    excessive force analysis, one for the mentally ill and one for
    serious criminals,” Bryan v. MacPherson, 
    630 F.3d 805
    , 829
    (9th Cir. 2010), but turns Deorle on its head.
    4. It is the dissent from denial of en banc consideration, not
    the panel opinion, that ignores the “specific context” in
    reaching its conclusion, despite the longstanding principle
    that at the summary judgment stage we are to make all
    reasonable inferences in favor of the nonmoving party.
    
    Tolan, 134 S. Ct. at 1868
    .
    The dissent identifies four facts in maintaining that
    qualified immunity should have been granted – that Hughes
    held a kitchen knife in her hand, that she was within five or
    six feet of another woman, that she was “reportedly erratic,”
    and that she did not respond to two commands to drop the
    knife – to the exclusion of all other relevant circumstances
    and context. For example, the dissent ignores that Hughes
    held the knife calmly at her side, and did not raise it.3 It
    3
    The dissent incorrectly characterizes Hughes as “wielding” the
    knife, a term that suggests she had it in position for use as a weapon. See
    20 Oxford English Dictionary 323–24 (2nd ed. 1989) (defining current
    sense of “to wield” as “[t]o use or handle with skill and effect; to manage,
    HUGHES V. KISELA                               15
    ignores that Hughes was not suspected of having committed
    a crime. It ignores that Hughes made no threatening
    movements or statements. It ignores that Kisela, on the facts
    most favorable to Hughes, gave two warnings in quick
    succession, after failing to identify himself as a police officer
    and without any warning that he would open fire if Hughes
    did not comply with his instructions.
    The dissent ultimately proposes that Kisela was entitled
    to qualified immunity for shooting Hughes because one
    purportedly analogous case, Blanford, found no constitutional
    violation. As the panel held, Blanford is simply inapposite.
    Several critical distinctions between the facts here and those
    present in Blanford confirm that a reasonable officer would
    not view Blanford as condoning the Hughes shooting.
    At the time he was shot, Blanford was carrying a two-
    and-a-half foot sword. 
    Blanford, 406 F.3d at 1112
    –13.
    Swords, of course, are meant as weapons. In contrast, all the
    while the officers were present, Hughes was holding a large
    kitchen knife at her side; such a knife certainly can serve as
    a weapon but is usually employed as an ordinary culinary
    tool. In Blanford’s case, the officers specifically identified
    themselves as law enforcement officials. 
    Id. Kisela and
    the
    other officers did not do so orally. Officers expressly warned
    Blanford – repeatedly – that they would shoot him if he did
    not comply with orders to drop the sword. 
    Id. at 1116–17,
    actuate, ply (a weapon, tool, or instrument, now always one held or carried
    in the hand”); Webster’s New International Dictionary of the English
    Language 2924 (2nd ed. 1959) (defining “wield” as “[t]o use (an
    instrument, implement, etc.) with full command or power; to handle with
    skill, effectiveness, etc.; to employ, manipulate, or ply.”). Hughes was
    just carrying a kitchen knife; she was not using it “with skill and effect,”
    or actuating, plying, or employing it, as a weapon.
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    1119. Hughes received no such warning, although such a
    warning is required “where feasible.” 
    Garner, 471 U.S. at 11
    –12. After that warning, Blanford “appeared to flaunt the
    deputies’ commands,” as he then raised his sword and roared
    in a threatening manner. 
    Id. at 1113,
    1119. Hughes did not
    raise her knife from her side, and Kisela did not hear her say
    anything at all, much less roar in a threatening way. Blanford
    ignored repeated police commands over the course of roughly
    two minutes. 
    Id. at 1114.
    Hughes was gunned down within
    thirty to forty-five seconds of Officer Kisela’s arrival.
    Blanford had committed a (nonviolent) crime witnessed by
    the officers present. 
    Id. at 1113,
    1116. The officers here did
    not see Hughes commit any crime. Blanford was seen
    attempting to enter a private residence for which he had no
    key, facts probative of a possible home invasion. Here, the
    officers had no reason to think Hughes was entering someone
    else’s house. She emerged from a house into a yard, and
    there was no reason to think it was not her house (which it
    was).     No reasonable officer could conclude, even
    mistakenly, that Blanford sanctioned the shooting of Amy
    Hughes in this case.
    In short, the panel opinion is a routine application of
    established qualified immunity principles to a set of facts
    that, under the applicable precedents, any reasonable officer
    should have realized did not justify the use of deadly force.
    Of course there was no precedent with precisely the same
    facts, but there nearly never is. On the dissent’s approach,
    officers using excessive force would just about never be
    liable for doing so.
    Indeed, the more egregious the use of excessive force, the
    less likely it is that deadly force would have been used in a
    closely similar situation, and the more likely is a grant of
    HUGHES V. KISELA                        17
    qualified immunity on the dissent’s analysis. It is true that
    we could find no case in which a court held deadly force
    excessive where there was no threat made, verbally or
    physically, to anyone, and no crime committed. But almost
    surely that is because no reasonable officer would use deadly
    force under those circumstances.
    I concur in the denial of rehearing en banc.
    IKUTA, Circuit Judge, with whom KOZINSKI, TALLMAN,
    BYBEE, CALLAHAN, BEA, and N. R. SMITH, Circuit
    Judges, join, dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc:
    The panel opinion that we let stand today directly
    contravenes the Supreme Court’s repeated directive not to
    frame clearly established law in excessive force cases at too
    high a level of generality. See, e.g., White v. Pauly, 137 S.
    Ct. 548, 552 (2017) (per curiam). Rather than ask the correct
    question—whether Officer Kisela’s split-second decision in
    “the specific context of the case” was “plainly incompetent”
    or “knowingly violate[d] the law”—the panel opinion defines
    the “clearly established right” here at the highest level of
    generality: the right to be free of excessive force. Mullenix
    v. Luna, 
    136 S. Ct. 305
    , 308 (2015) (per curiam). In doing so,
    the panel opinion adopts the same standard that the Supreme
    Court has repeatedly overruled. Compare 
    id. at 309
    (“The
    general principle that deadly force requires a sufficient threat
    hardly settles this matter.”), with Hughes v. Kisela, 
    841 F.3d 1081
    , 1089 (9th Cir. 2016) (holding that the “most
    important[]” question is “whether it was reasonable to believe
    that Ms. Hughes presented a threat”). Because the panel
    opinion takes a path contrary to the Supreme Court’s
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    direction on the proper application of the qualified immunity
    doctrine in the Fourth Amendment context, I would take this
    case en banc to correct the panel opinion’s error.
    I
    The relevant facts necessary to resolve the qualified
    immunity analysis are not in dispute. On May 21, 2010,
    Andrew Kisela was a corporal with the University of Arizona
    Police Department. That evening, he and his colleague
    received a radio report that a woman was walking down 7th
    Street in Tucson and hacking at a tree with a large knife.
    Upon arrival at the scene, Officer Kisela spoke briefly with
    the reporting party, and eventually a third officer arrived at
    the scene.
    Against this backdrop, the incident at the center of this
    lawsuit unfolded in the course of thirty to forty-five seconds.
    Officer Kisela saw Amy Hughes—a woman matching the
    description of the tree-hacker—walking toward a third party,
    now known to be Hughes’s housemate Sharon Chadwick.
    Hughes was still holding the large knife, so the officers
    present drew their guns and ordered Hughes to drop the knife
    at least twice. Hughes failed to comply. Instead, she
    continued to approach Chadwick, and in fact came close
    enough to Chadwick to deliver a blow with the knife. With
    a chainlink fence separating the officers from Hughes and
    Chadwick, and with insufficient time to transition from his
    firearm to his taser, Officer Kisela fired four shots at Hughes,
    striking but not killing her.
    Amy Hughes then filed this suit against Officer Kisela
    pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1983, alleging that Officer Kisela
    violated her Fourth Amendment right to be free of excessive
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    force. The district court granted summary judgment for
    Officer Kisela, which the panel hearing this appeal reversed.
    II
    The dispositive question here is whether Officer Kisela is
    entitled to qualified immunity. As the Supreme Court has
    explained, the qualified immunity analysis has two prongs:
    In order to deny qualified immunity, the facts must establish
    a violation of a constitutional right, and that right must have
    been “clearly established” at the time of alleged violation.
    Pearson v. Callahan, 
    555 U.S. 223
    , 232 (2009). We may
    assess the prongs in either order, “in light of the
    circumstances in the particular case at hand.” 
    Id. at 236.
    In a Fourth Amendment excessive force case, we analyze
    the first prong by engaging in “a careful balancing of the
    nature and quality of the intrusion on the individual’s Fourth
    Amendment interests against the countervailing governmental
    interests at stake.” Plumhoff v. Rickard, 
    134 S. Ct. 2012
    ,
    2020 (2014) (quoting Graham v. Connor, 
    490 U.S. 386
    , 396
    (1989)). This is a “totality of the circumstances” analysis that
    we conduct from the perspective of a reasonable officer on
    the scene. 
    Id. The analysis
    is accordingly quite deferential
    to the officer. See Saucier v. Katz, 
    533 U.S. 194
    , 205 (2001).
    But the test for the second prong of the qualified
    immunity analysis is different and adds another layer of
    deference. See 
    id. For excessive
    force cases in particular, the
    Supreme Court has identified two key principles about what
    constitutes a “clearly established” right. First, courts must
    define the alleged constitutional violation in terms of the
    officer’s “particular conduct.” 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    (quoting Ashcroft v. al-Kidd, 
    563 U.S. 731
    , 742 (2011)). As
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    Mullenix explained, “[s]uch specificity is especially important
    in the Fourth Amendment context, where the Court has
    recognized that ‘[i]t is sometimes difficult for an officer to
    determine how the relevant legal doctrine, here excessive
    force, will apply to the factual situation the officer
    confronts.’” 
    Id. (quoting Saucier,
    533 U.S. at 205) (second
    alteration in original). Thus, courts may not define the
    clearly established right at a high level of generality that
    covers a wide range of conduct, as that would “mak[e] it
    impossible for officials reasonably [to] anticipate when their
    conduct may give rise to liability for damages.” Anderson v.
    Creighton, 
    483 U.S. 635
    , 639 (1987) (quotation marks
    omitted) (second alteration in original).
    Second, having identified the context-specific conduct
    that allegedly violated the Constitution, courts must
    determine whether any precedent existing at the time placed
    beyond debate that the use of force in such circumstances
    violated the Fourth Amendment. See, e.g., 
    White, 137 S. Ct. at 551
    ; 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    . The “beyond debate”
    standard is a high one: Officers are entitled to qualified
    immunity unless “every reasonable official”—which excludes
    only the plainly incompetent and those who knowingly
    violate the law—“would have understood that what he is
    doing violates [the plaintiff’s] right.” 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    (quoting Reichle v. Howards, 
    132 S. Ct. 2088
    , 2093
    (2012)). And officers remain entitled to qualified immunity
    even if they make “reasonable mistakes” about “the legal
    constraints on particular police conduct.” 
    Saucier, 533 U.S. at 205
    . Given this high standard, the Supreme Court has
    made clear that an official can lose qualified immunity in the
    excessive force context only if an earlier case held that
    conduct closely analogous to the specific conduct at issue
    violated a constitutional right. E.g., Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at
    HUGHES V. KISELA                        21
    308. For example, the Court recently held that the Tenth
    Circuit “misunderstood the ‘clearly established’ analysis”
    when it “failed to identify a case where an officer acting
    under similar circumstances . . . was held to have violated the
    Fourth Amendment,” and instead relied on cases that “lay out
    excessive-force principles at only a general level.” 
    White, 137 S. Ct. at 552
    .
    Mullenix illustrates both key principles of the second
    prong of the qualified immunity analysis. The officer in
    Mullenix was sued for using excessive force after he shot and
    killed an individual evading an arrest warrant who was
    speeding down the 
    interstate. 136 S. Ct. at 306
    –07. The
    officer’s objective was to disable the fleeing man’s car by
    shooting it from an overpass, a tactic that the officer had
    neither been trained in nor previously attempted. 
    Id. at 306.
    In evaluating whether the officer violated clearly established
    law, the Court first explained the alleged violation in terms of
    the officer’s specific conduct: The officer “confronted a
    reportedly intoxicated fugitive, set on avoiding capture
    through high-speed vehicular flight, who twice during his
    flight had threatened to shoot police officers, and who was
    moments away from encountering an officer.” 
    Id. at 309.
    After identifying this context-specific conduct, the Court
    then stated that “[t]he relevant inquiry is whether existing
    precedent placed the conclusion that [the officer] acted
    unreasonably in these circumstances ‘beyond debate.’” Id.
    (quoting al-
    Kidd, 563 U.S. at 741
    ). The Court concluded that
    it had “never found the use of deadly force in connection with
    a dangerous car chase to violate the Fourth Amendment, let
    alone to be a basis for denying qualified immunity.” 
    Id. at 310.
    Because no Supreme Court case “squarely govern[ed]”
    the facts of Mullenix, 
    id., and lower
    court decisions left the
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    question hazy, 
    id. at 312,
    the Court could not say that it was
    “beyond debate” that the officer violated the plaintiff’s
    constitutional right, 
    id. (quoting Stanton
    v. Sims, 
    134 S. Ct. 3
    ,
    7 (2013) (per curiam)). Therefore, the officer was entitled to
    qualified immunity. 
    Id. III The
    panel opinion directly contravenes the qualified
    immunity principles relevant to the “clearly established”
    inquiry. By doing so, the panel opinion fails to heed the
    central lesson of White, Mullenix, and multiple other Supreme
    Court decisions in the excessive force context.
    First and most fundamentally, the panel opinion fails to
    define the alleged constitutional violation in terms of the
    officer’s “particular conduct.” 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    (quoting 
    al-Kidd, 563 U.S. at 742
    ). The panel should have
    considered the alleged violation as: shooting a reportedly
    erratic, knife-wielding woman who comes within striking
    distance of a third party, ignores multiple orders to drop her
    weapon, and cannot otherwise be timely subdued due to a
    physical barrier separating her from the officer. Instead, the
    panel defines the alleged violation at issue as shooting a
    plaintiff who “present[ed] no objectively reasonable threat to
    the safety of the officer or other individuals,” 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1089
    (quoting Deorle v. Rutherford, 
    272 F.3d 1272
    , 1285 (9th Cir. 2001)), and focuses solely on whether
    Officer Kisela was unreasonable in determining that Hughes
    posed a threat.1 By defining the conduct at issue at such a
    1
    According to the panel, this is the “most important[]” aspect of the
    qualified immunity determination because if the issue is determined in
    Hughes’s favor, “then Corporal Kisela clearly violated [Hughes’s]
    HUGHES V. KISELA                              23
    high level of generality, the panel adopts the exact erroneous
    approach reversed in Mullenix, among other cases; it focuses
    only on the general elements of an excessive force violation.
    The abstract legal principle that an officer may not use deadly
    force when a suspect does not present an objectively
    reasonable threat is well established. See, e.g., Tennessee v.
    Garner, 
    471 U.S. 1
    , 11 (1985). But the proper question for
    purposes of identifying a “clearly established” right is
    whether any precedent placed beyond debate how this legal
    principle applies to the specific facts on the ground in this
    case. See 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 309
    . As the Supreme Court
    has made clear, at the second prong of the qualified immunity
    analysis we are not to focus on the reasonableness of the
    officer’s conduct, but on whether the officer could reasonably
    have thought that the law permitted his specific conduct
    under the facts of the case. See 
    Saucier, 533 U.S. at 205
    .
    The opinion also mishandles the Court’s second key
    principle for identifying clearly established law because it
    “fail[s] to identify a case where an officer acting under
    similar circumstances as Officer [Kisela] was held to have
    violated the Fourth Amendment.” 
    White, 137 S. Ct. at 552
    .
    Indeed, by relying on Glenn v. Washington County, 
    673 F.3d 864
    (9th Cir. 2011), the panel tacitly admits that no precedent
    squarely governed these facts at the time of the officer’s
    conduct. Glenn, which the panel calls “[t]he most analogous
    Ninth Circuit case,” 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1088
    , post-dates the
    constitutional right.” 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1089
    . Obviously, this part of
    the panel’s analysis is relevant only to the first prong of the qualified
    immunity inquiry: whether the facts establish a violation of a
    constitutional right. But this is not the appropriate inquiry at the second
    prong, where the question is whether precedent placed “beyond debate”
    that the officer’s “particular conduct” was unlawful “in light of the
    specific context of the case.” 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    .
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    conduct at issue by more than a year. Needless to say, a case
    that was decided after Officer Kisela acted could not have
    informed his conduct, and so is “of no use in the clearly
    established inquiry.” Brosseau v. Haugen, 
    543 U.S. 194
    , 200
    n.4 (2004) (per curiam).2
    And indeed, no case that the panel cites held that conduct
    closely analogous to the conduct at issue in this case violated
    the plaintiff’s constitutional rights. The panel’s reliance on
    Deorle, see 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1089
    , is misplaced. In
    Deorle, we held that there was “no objectively reasonable
    threat to the safety of the officer or other 
    individuals,” 272 F.3d at 1285
    , where an unarmed man, 
    id., who had
    been
    compliant with at least three police requests to discard
    weapons, 
    id. at 1276–77,
    was shot while walking toward an
    officer with a clear path of retreat, 
    id. at 1282,
    while “the only
    neighbors in the vicinity, along with the other police officers,
    were safely behind [] two roadblocks,” 
    id. Given these
    facts,
    Deorle “does not clearly dictate the conclusion that [Officer
    Kisela] was unjustified in perceiving grave danger and
    responding accordingly” in the situation at issue here.
    
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 311
    . In stark contrast to Deorle,
    Officer Kisela was present at the scene for only a matter of
    seconds, while the officer in Deorle had been on the scene for
    forty minutes and had observed the victim “for about five to
    2
    After we dissenting judges pointed out that Glenn was decided
    more than a year after the incident in this case, the panel belatedly
    amended its opinion to retreat from its reliance on Glenn. See Amended
    Op. at 44 n.2. But having now conceded that the panel’s “most analogous
    Ninth Circuit case,” 
    id. at 43,
    is merely “suggestive of the state of the
    clearly established law,” and serves only “as illustrative” rather than “as
    determinative of clearly established law,” 
    id. at 44
    n.2, the panel opinion
    more clearly than ever rests on nothing but the general rule that deadly
    force requires an objective threat of harm.
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    ten minutes from the cover of some trees.” 
    Deorle, 272 F.3d at 1277
    , 1281–82. Hughes was not only armed (unlike
    Deorle), but also refused at least two requests to drop her
    knife (again unlike the largely compliant Deorle). Likewise,
    Hughes was within striking distance of a third party while
    separated from the officers by a physical barrier, and Officer
    Kisela had been put on notice of Hughes’s earlier erratic
    behavior with a knife, which Officer Kisela had been
    dispatched to investigate. Shooting an armed, unresponsive,
    and reportedly erratic woman as she approaches a third party
    is materially different from shooting an unarmed, largely
    compliant man as he approaches an officer with a clear line
    of retreat. On its facts, therefore, Deorle does not place
    “beyond debate” that Officer Kisela’s conduct violated
    Hughes’s Fourth Amendment rights. al-
    Kidd, 563 U.S. at 741
    .
    Worse yet, the panel’s reliance on Deorle repeats the
    exact same error for which the Supreme Court reprimanded
    us just two years ago in Sheehan, in which the Court noted
    that the differences between Deorle and the situation
    confronting the officers in Sheehan “leap[t] from the page.”
    City & County of San Francisco v. Sheehan, 
    135 S. Ct. 1765
    ,
    1776 (2015). For reasons just discussed, the same is true
    here. The Supreme Court went on to hold that, even if Deorle
    supported the general rule that an officer’s forcible entry into
    a mentally ill individual’s home requires an objective need
    for immediate entry, qualified immunity was appropriate
    because “no precedent clearly established that there was not
    ‘an objective need for immediate entry.’” 
    Id. at 1777
    (emphasis in original). As in Sheehan, the panel here uses
    Deorle to justify denial of qualified immunity based on a
    violation of a general Fourth Amendment principle that
    deadly force requires an objective threat, without citing a
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    single relevant case in which any court has held that there
    was not an objective threat on facts comparable to those here.
    The panel further exacerbates its error by brushing aside
    Officer Kisela’s argument that a reasonable officer could rely
    on Blanford v. Sacramento County, 
    406 F.3d 1110
    (9th Cir.
    2005), to justify the use of force in this situation. It is
    irrelevant whether Blanford is distinguishable, as the panel
    claims. 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1090
    . The issue is not whether
    Blanford compels the conclusion that Officer Kisela’s
    conduct does not rise to the level of a constitutional violation
    (the first prong of the qualified immunity analysis). Rather,
    the question is whether any reasonable officer could have
    understood Blanford, rightly or wrongly, as permitting the use
    of deadly force in this situation. See 
    Saucier, 533 U.S. at 205
    . On that score, the panel errs.
    In Blanford, the officers confronted a man “wearing a ski
    mask and carrying a sword” walking through a suburban
    neighborhood and “behaving 
    erratically.” 406 F.3d at 1112
    .
    Over the course of approximately two minutes, 
    id. at 1114,
    the officers trailed Blanford and repeatedly ordered him to
    drop the sword, which he did not do, 
    id. at 1112–13.
    The
    officers “considered whether Blanford might be mentally
    disturbed,” but they believed that he “posed an imminent
    threat” to the public and that they needed to secure his
    weapon, even though no third parties were known to be in the
    vicinity. 
    Id. at 1113.
    When Blanford attempted to enter his
    own home, the officers—unaware that it was Blanford’s
    home, and not knowing whether anyone was inside the
    home—shot him and severed his spine. 
    Id. at 1113–14.
    We
    held that no constitutional violation occurred. 
    Id. at 1117–18.
    More specifically, we identified the four elements of the
    situation that supported our holding: “[1] [Blanford] was
    HUGHES V. KISELA                       27
    armed, [2] refused to give up his weapon, [3] was not
    surrounded, and [4] was trying to get inside a private
    residence . . . where his sword could inflict injury that the
    deputies would not then be in a position to prevent.” 
    Id. at 1117–18.
    Despite the panel’s efforts to distinguish Blanford, see
    
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1090
    , the four elements that compelled
    our conclusion in Blanford are present in this case, and it is
    therefore clear that Officer Kisela could have reasonably
    relied on Blanford to justify his use of force against Hughes.
    Cf. 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 311
    (looking to comparable
    decisions from the circuit courts to determine whether an
    officer’s assessment of a threat was reasonable); Shinault v.
    Hawks, 
    782 F.3d 1053
    , 1060 (9th Cir. 2015) (holding that
    “qualified immunity is appropriate” where “some courts”
    held that no violation of a constitutional right occurred “in
    analogous cases,” as this “shows that the right was not clearly
    established at the time of conduct”). Just as in Blanford,
    Hughes was armed, refused to drop her weapon, was not
    surrounded, and was attempting to put herself in a situation
    where she could have caused harm that the officers would not
    have been able to prevent. 
    See 406 F.3d at 1117
    –18. Given
    our holding in Blanford, Officer Kisela could reasonably have
    thought that his conduct was lawful. For qualified immunity
    purposes, that is dispositive. See 
    Saucier, 533 U.S. at 205
    .
    Finally, the panel attempts to rescue its ruling by arguing
    that it should have been obvious to Officer Kisela that he
    could not use deadly force in this context. 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1090
    (citing 
    Brosseau, 543 U.S. at 199
    , which held that “in
    an obvious case,” general Fourth Amendment standards “can
    ‘clearly establish’ the answer, even without a body of relevant
    case law”). In effect, the panel’s argument here is that
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    Officer Kisela’s conduct constituted excessive force under
    general Fourth Amendment principles, and it is obvious that
    an officer may not use excessive force.                  See 
    id. (characterizing as
    “obvious” that Hughes “had a
    constitutional right to walk down her driveway holding a
    knife without being shot”). Given that Hughes, as the panel
    acknowledges, “may have been acting erratically, was
    approaching a third party, and did not immediately comply
    with orders to drop the knife,” 
    id., this is
    far from an obvious
    case. Indeed, if this case is obvious—especially in light of
    precedents like Blanford—then the “obvious case” exception
    will have swallowed the rule to identify a case that “squarely
    governs” the situation confronting the officer. 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 310
    .
    All told, the panel opinion denies qualified immunity on
    the authority of a general Fourth Amendment principle, a
    post-dated case, and a wholly unpersuasive attempt to
    distinguish a precedent that held, on comparable facts, that no
    constitutional violation occurred. These errors are easily
    perceived, and we ought to have corrected them.
    IV
    The concurrence’s last ditch effort to salvage the panel
    opinion is to no avail. See Concurrence to Denial of
    Rehearing En Banc. Of course, a concurrence is not the
    opinion of the court, and is not a means by which this court
    can definitively speak on legal questions.3 Moreover, the
    3
    As some of our colleagues on the Fifth Circuit recently observed,
    although a panel publishing a response to denial of rehearing en banc has
    “the right to comment on the dissent from denial,” it cannot “articulate any
    additional binding precedent.” EEOC v. Bass Pro Outdoor World, LLC,
    HUGHES V. KISELA                              29
    concurrence has no better luck than the panel in identifying
    precedent pre-dating Officer Kisela’s use of force that is close
    enough to the situation facing Officer Kisela that only a
    plainly incompetent or lawless officer would know that his
    actions were unconstitutional. See 
    Mullenix, 136 S. Ct. at 308
    .
    First, the concurrence claims that this case is quite like
    Harris v. Roderick, 
    126 F.3d 1189
    (9th Cir. 1997), which
    addressed the infamous 1992 siege at Ruby Ridge. See
    Concurrence at 9, 13.4 But the suggestion that Officer Kisela
    ought to have known that his conduct was unlawful because
    we held in the wake of Ruby Ridge that a sniper ensconced
    safely on a hill cannot shoot a retreating suspect merely
    because that suspect had committed a crime the day before,
    see 
    Harris, 126 F.3d at 1203
    , does not pass the straight-face
    test. At a minimum, Harris does not place it “beyond debate”
    that Officer Kisela violated the Constitution by using deadly
    force against a person who had been reported as acting
    erratically with a knife minutes before the encounter, was still
    armed with the knife, failed to respond to at least two orders
    to drop the knife, and was within striking distance of a third
    party. 
    White, 137 S. Ct. at 551
    .
    No. 15-20078, — F.3d —, 
    2017 WL 1540853
    , at *14 (5th Cir. Apr. 28,
    2017) (Jones, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc) (emphasis
    omitted).
    4
    The panel follows suit by amending the opinion to remove a cite to
    Glenn and replace it with a cite to Harris, albeit without any explanation.
    Compare 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1090
    (“As indicated by Glenn and
    Deorle, . . . .”), with Amended Op. at 47 (“As indicated by Deorle and
    Harris, . . . .”).
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    Equally unconvincing is the concurrence’s reference to
    Curnow ex rel. Curnow v. Ridgecrest Police, 
    952 F.2d 321
    (9th Cir. 1991). See Concurrence at 9, 13. On the facts as we
    assumed them in Curnow, the victim was sitting in his home,
    unarmed, and holding his girlfriend in his lap when a police
    officer shot him in the back through a window. 
    Id. at 323.
    Whatever wisdom Curnow may impart to a policeman
    observing a person chopping onions at an innocent backyard
    barbecue, see Concurrence at 7–8, it does not clearly establish
    the unreasonableness of deadly force where a reportedly
    erratic individual who is unresponsive to police commands
    approaches a third party, knife in hand.
    Finally, the concurrence points to distinctions between the
    facts of this case and those in Blanford, such as the length of
    the blade Blanford carried, the fact that the police shouted
    “we’ll shoot” to Blanford in addition to an order to drop the
    weapon, and the length of the encounter (two minutes in
    Blanford rather than forty-five seconds in this case).5
    Concurrence at 15–16. Such distinctions might be more
    compelling if a federal judge could descend as a deus ex
    machina to whisper in the ears of officers on the scene about
    the application of precedent before a shot is ever fired. But
    in the world in which we actually live, officers must make
    split-second decisions regarding the use of force, and a
    reasonable officer could have understood Blanford as
    5
    The concurrence fails to note other distinctions between Blanford
    and this case, such as the fact that Hughes was just a few feet away from
    a potential victim, whereas Blanford was 20 to 25 feet away from the
    police and there was no known third party at risk. 
    Blanford, 406 F.3d at 1112
    –13. This distinction highlights the need for even faster decision-
    making and action on Officer Kisela’s part.
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    recognizing that deadly force could be used in the situation
    Officer Kisela faced.
    V
    By failing to take this case en banc, we unfortunately
    repeat our error of framing clearly established law at too high
    a level of generality, divorced from the specific context of the
    situation facing the officer. 
    Sheehan, 135 S. Ct. at 1775
    –76
    (“We have repeatedly told courts—and the Ninth Circuit in
    particular—not to define clearly established law at a high
    level of generality.”); 
    al-Kidd, 563 U.S. at 742
    (same; citation
    omitted); Brosseau, 
    543 U.S. 194
    , 198–99 (reversing the
    Ninth Circuit for relying on “the general tests” for excessive
    force to evaluate clearly established law).6 More unfortunate
    still, we do so by over-reading Deorle, the exact same case
    that we erroneously over-extended in Sheehan. The panel
    6
    Indeed, just days ago the Supreme Court rejected yet again this
    court’s approach of defining clearly established law at too high a level of
    generality. See Petersen v. Lewis County, 663 F. App’x 531 (9th Cir.
    2016), cert. granted and judgment vacated sub nom. McKnight v.
    Peterson, No. 16-1003, (U.S. June 12, 2017). In Peterson, a police officer
    responded to a 911 call reporting that an individual was using a large knife
    to stab the front door of a mobile home. Petersen v. Lewis County, No.
    C12-5908, 
    2014 WL 584005
    , at *1–2 (W.D. Wash. Feb. 13, 2014). The
    officer believed, incorrectly as it turned out, that the suspect had a knife.
    
    Id. at *2.
    The suspect failed to comply with the officer’s orders to get on
    the ground and took two steps towards the officer, who was 20 to 25 feet
    away, at which point the officer shot the suspect to stop his approach. 
    Id. Petersen defined
    clearly established law at a high level: it is clearly
    established that an officer may not use deadly force without probable
    cause to believe that the plaintiff posed a threat of serious physical harm,
    and the officer “did not have probable cause to use deadly force and
    therefore acted in violation of clearly established law.” 663 F. App’x at
    532. The panel here takes a similarly erroneous approach, and thus also
    invites vacatur, if not summary reversal.
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    opinion that we leave in place contradicts White, Mullenix,
    Sheehan, al-Kidd, Brosseau, and multiple other Supreme
    Court precedents instructing us to “identify a case where an
    officer acting under similar circumstances . . . was held to
    have violated the Fourth Amendment.” 
    White, 137 S. Ct. at 552
    .
    The panel would have us believe this is all
    inconsequential—“[t]he application of qualified immunity,”
    it assures us, simply “will depend upon the facts as
    determined by a jury.” 
    Hughes, 841 F.3d at 1090
    . But there
    is no set of facts for which Hughes has proffered evidence
    that would establish a clear violation of the Fourth
    Amendment as of the date of Officer Kisela’s conduct, and
    qualified immunity is immunity from suit, not just a defense
    to liability. 
    Pearson, 555 U.S. at 237
    . In this situation, “[o]ur
    grand business undoubtedly is . . . to do what lies clearly at
    hand.” Thomas Carlyle, Signs of the Times, 49 Edinburgh
    Rev. 439, 439 (1829). Because it is apparent on the summary
    judgment record that qualified immunity, when properly
    applied, shields Officer Kisela from suit in this situation, I
    would afford him the immunity to which the law entitles him.
    I therefore dissent from the denial of rehearing en banc.
    OPINION
    SESSIONS, District Judge:
    After receiving a report of a person hacking at a tree with
    a knife, three members of the University of Arizona Police
    Department (UAPD) responded to the scene. Upon their
    arrival, the officers saw Plaintiff Amy Hughes carrying a
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    large kitchen knife. Ms. Hughes then began to walk toward
    another woman, Sharon Chadwick, at which point the police
    yelled for her to drop the knife. Ms. Hughes did not comply.
    Ms. Chadwick has submitted an affidavit in which she
    describes Ms. Hughes’s demeanor at the time as composed
    and non-threatening. Multiple witnesses attest that Ms.
    Hughes never raised the knife as she neared Ms. Chadwick.
    Unable to approach the two women because of a chain-link
    fence, defendant and UAPD Corporal Andrew Kisela shot
    Ms. Hughes four times.
    Ms. Hughes brings suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 claiming
    excessive force in violation of her constitutional rights. The
    district court granted summary judgment in favor of Corporal
    Kisela, concluding that his actions were reasonable and that
    he was entitled to qualified immunity. The facts when
    viewed in the light most favorable to Ms. Hughes do not
    support the district court’s decision. We reverse and remand
    for further proceedings.
    FACTUAL BACKGROUND
    On May 21, 2010, Corporal Kisela and UAPD officer-in-
    training Alex Garcia were monitoring the Tucson Police
    Department radio when they heard a “check welfare” call
    regarding a woman reportedly hacking at a tree with a large
    knife. The officers drove to the location and were told by the
    reporting party that the person with the knife had been acting
    erratically. UAPD Officer Lindsay Kunz also responded to
    the call.
    The following events occurred in less than one minute.
    Soon after the three officers arrived, Amy Hughes emerged
    from her house carrying a large kitchen knife. Sharon
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    Chadwick was standing outside the house in the vicinity of
    the driveway. According to Ms. Chadwick’s affidavit, Ms.
    Hughes was composed and content as she exited the house,
    holding the kitchen knife down to her side with the blade
    pointing backwards. Ms. Chadwick submits that she was
    never in fear, and did not feel that Ms. Hughes was a threat.
    As Ms. Hughes approached Ms. Chadwick, the officers
    each drew their guns and ordered her to drop the knife.
    Although Corporal Kisela contends that the officers yelled
    numerous time for Ms. Hughes to drop the knife, Ms.
    Chadwick recalls hearing only two commands in quick
    succession. Ms. Hughes did not drop the knife and continued
    to move toward Ms. Chadwick. Corporal Kisela recalls
    seeing Ms. Hughes raise the knife as if to attack. Officers
    Garcia and Kunz later told investigators that they did not see
    Ms. Hughes raise the knife.
    A chain link fence at the edge of the property prevented
    the officers from getting any closer to the two women.
    Because the top of the fence obstructed his aim, Corporal
    Kisela dropped down and fired four shots through the fence.
    Each of the shots struck Ms. Hughes, causing her to fall at
    Ms. Chadwick’s feet. Her injuries were not fatal.
    In an interview with police after the shooting, Ms.
    Chadwick explained that she and Ms. Hughes lived together,
    and that she had managed Ms. Hughes’s behavior in the past.
    She also informed police that Ms. Hughes had been
    diagnosed with bipolar disorder and was taking medication.
    Ms. Chadwick believes that Ms. Hughes did not understand
    what was happening when the police yelled for her to drop
    the knife. She also believes that Ms. Hughes would have
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    given her the knife if asked, and that the police should have
    afforded her that opportunity.
    STANDARD OF REVIEW
    A district court’s grant of a motion for summary judgment
    is reviewed de novo. Colwell v. Bannister, 
    763 F.3d 1060
    ,
    1065 (9th Cir. 2014). “Summary judgment is appropriate
    only ‘if the pleadings, the discovery and disclosure materials
    on file, and any affidavits show that there is no genuine issue
    as to any material fact and that the movant is entitled to
    judgment as a matter of law.’” Stoot v. City of Everett,
    
    582 F.3d 910
    , 918 (9th Cir. 2009) (quoting Fed. R. Civ. P.
    56(c)). In reviewing a summary judgment ruling, we draw all
    reasonable inferences in favor of the non-moving party.
    Galvin v. Hay, 
    374 F.3d 739
    , 745 (9th Cir. 2004). We are
    obligated to construe the record in the light most favorable to
    the party opposing summary judgment. See Matsushita Elec.
    Indus. Co. v. Zenith Radio Corp., 
    475 U.S. 574
    , 587 (1986).
    We review an officer’s entitlement to qualified immunity de
    novo. Glenn v. Washington Cty., 
    673 F.3d 864
    , 870 (9th Cir.
    2011).
    DISCUSSION
    I. Excessive Force
    When evaluating a Fourth Amendment claim of excessive
    force, courts ask “whether the officers’ actions are
    ‘objectively reasonable’ in light of the facts and
    circumstances confronting them.” Graham v. Connor,
    
    490 U.S. 386
    , 397 (1989). This inquiry “requires a careful
    balancing of ‘the nature and quality of the intrusion on the
    individual’s Fourth Amendment interests’ against the
    36                   HUGHES V. KISELA
    countervailing governmental interests at stake.” 
    Id. at 396
    (quoting Tennessee v. Garner, 
    471 U.S. 1
    , 8 (1985)). “The
    calculus of reasonableness must embody allowance for the
    fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second
    judgments—in circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and
    rapidly evolving—about the amount of force that is necessary
    in a particular situation.” 
    Id. at 396
    –97. Reasonableness
    therefore “must be judged from the perspective of a
    reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20
    vision of hindsight.” 
    Id. at 396
    .
    The strength of the government’s interest in the force
    used is evaluated by examining three primary factors: (1) “the
    severity of the crime at issue,” (2) “whether the suspect poses
    an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or others,”
    and (3) “whether [s]he is actively resisting arrest or
    attempting to evade arrest by flight.” 
    Id. (citing Garner,
    471 U.S. at 8–9). The “‘most important’ factor under
    Graham is whether the suspect posed an ‘immediate threat to
    the safety of officers or third parties.’” George v. Morris,
    
    736 F.3d 829
    , 838 (9th Cir. 2013) (quoting Bryan v.
    MacPherson, 
    630 F.3d 805
    , 826 (9th Cir. 2010)).
    The factors identified in Graham are not exclusive. See
    
    Bryan, 630 F.3d at 826
    . When assessing the officer’s
    conduct, a court must examine “the totality of the
    circumstances and consider ‘whatever specific factors may be
    appropriate in a particular case, whether or not listed in
    Graham.’” 
    Id. (quoting Franklin
    v. Foxworth, 
    31 F.3d 873
    ,
    876 (9th Cir. 1994)). Other relevant factors may include the
    availability of less intrusive force, whether proper warnings
    were given, and whether it should have been apparent to the
    officer that the subject of the force used was mentally
    disturbed. See, e.g., 
    Bryan, 630 F.3d at 831
    ; Deorle v.
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    Rutherford, 
    272 F.3d 1272
    , 1282–83 (9th Cir. 2001). With
    respect to the possibility of less intrusive force, officers need
    not employ the least intrusive means available so long as they
    act within a range of reasonable conduct. See Scott v.
    Henrich, 
    39 F.3d 912
    , 915 (9th Cir. 1994).
    In this case, when viewing the facts in the light most
    favorable to Ms. Hughes, the record does not support
    Corporal Kisela’s perception of an immediate threat. Officer
    Garcia told Tucson police that Ms. Hughes did not raise the
    knife and did not make any aggressive or threatening actions
    toward Ms. Chadwick. Officer Kunz similarly did not see
    Ms. Hughes raise her arm. Ms. Chadwick describes Ms.
    Hughes as having been composed and non-threatening
    immediately prior to the shooting.1
    Corporal Kisela was undoubtedly concerned for Ms.
    Chadwick’s safety. He had received a report of a person with
    a knife acting erratically, and soon thereafter saw that same
    person still holding a knife and approaching another
    individual. In some situations, “[i]f the person is armed . . .
    a furtive movement, harrowing gesture, or serious verbal
    threat might create an immediate threat.” 
    George, 736 F.3d at 838
    . Nonetheless, “a simple statement by an officer that he
    fears for his safety or the safety of others is not enough; there
    must be objective factors to justify such a concern.” 
    Deorle, 272 F.3d at 1281
    (“A desire to resolve quickly a potentially
    dangerous situation is not the type of governmental interest
    1
    While Ms. Chadwick’s description may not be entirely consistent
    with some of her other statements in the record, “we must draw all
    justifiable inferences in favor of [Ms. Hughes], including questions of
    credibility and of the weight to be accorded particular evidence.” Masson
    v. New Yorker Magazine, Inc., 
    501 U.S. 496
    , 520 (1991).
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    that, standing alone, justifies the use of force that may cause
    serious injury.”); see also Harris v. Roderick, 
    126 F.3d 1189
    ,
    1204 (9th Cir. 1997) (“Law enforcement officials may not kill
    suspects who do not pose an immediate threat to their safety
    or to the safety of others simply because they are armed.”).
    Here, viewing those “objective factors” in a light most
    favorable to Ms. Hughes, a rational jury could find that she
    did not present an immediate threat to the safety of others,
    and that Corporal Kisela’s response was unreasonable. 
    Id. The question
    of the severity of the crime being committed
    also weighs in Ms. Hughes’s favor. The three officers present
    at the time of the shooting were responding to a “check
    welfare” call. No crime was reported. As in Deorle, where
    the police shot a mentally ill man acting strangely, the
    officers arrived “not to arrest [Ms. Hughes], but to investigate
    [her] peculiar 
    behavior.” 272 F.3d at 1280
    –81. And also as
    in Deorle, this was not a situation of a “lone police officer
    suddenly confronted by a dangerous armed felon . . . .” 
    Id. at 1283.
    The majority in Deorle noted that “[t]he character of
    the offense is often an important consideration in determining
    whether the use of force was justified,” and ultimately
    concluded that “where the crime being committed, if any, was
    minor and the danger to . . . others appear to have been
    minimal,” the governmental interest in using force was
    “clearly not substantial.” 
    Id. at 1280–82.
    A rational jury,
    viewing the facts in a light most favorable to Ms. Hughes,
    could reach the same conclusion here.
    The third factor cited in Graham, whether the suspect was
    resisting or seeking to evade arrest, does not apply as the
    events in this case occurred too quickly for the officers to
    make an arrest attempt. A related issue is Ms. Hughes’s
    disregard of the officers’ commands to drop the knife. It is
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    undisputed that officers yelled at least twice for her to drop
    the knife. If the case goes to trial, the jury may hear evidence
    of several additional warnings. At summary judgment,
    however, the Chadwick affidavit plays an important role on
    this point. Ms. Chadwick heard only two warnings in quick
    succession, and perceived that Ms. Hughes did not understand
    what was happening. Whether the police should have
    perceived this is a question for the jury.
    At the time, the police were privy to facts suggesting that
    Ms. Hughes might have a mental illness. The initial report
    was to “check welfare” of a person trying to cut down a tree
    with a knife. Upon arriving at the scene, the reporting party
    informed Corporal Kisela that this same person was acting
    erratically. Just prior to the shooting, Corporal Kisela himself
    recalled Ms. Hughes “stumbling” toward Ms. Chadwick.
    This Court has “refused to create two tracks of excessive
    force analysis, one for the mentally ill and one for serious
    criminals.” 
    Bryan, 630 F.3d at 829
    . The Court has, however,
    “found that even when an emotionally disturbed individual is
    acting out and inviting officers to use deadly force to subdue
    him, the governmental interest in using such force is
    diminished by the fact that the officers are confronted . . .
    with a mentally ill individual.” 
    Id. (citation and
    internal
    quotation marks omitted). A reasonable jury could conclude,
    based upon the information available to Corporal Kisela at
    the time, that there were sufficient indications of mental
    illness to diminish the governmental interest in using deadly
    force.
    Another factor to be considered is whether there were less
    intrusive means that could have been used before employing
    deadly force. As noted previously, officers “need not avail
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    themselves of the least intrusive means of responding to an
    exigent situation; they need only act within that range of
    conduct we identify as reasonable.” 
    Henrich, 39 F.3d at 915
    .
    However, “police are ‘required to consider [w]hat other
    tactics if any were available,’” and whether there are “clear,
    reasonable and less intrusive alternatives” to the force being
    contemplated. 
    Bryan, 630 F.3d at 831
    (quoting Headwaters
    Forest Def. v. Cty. of Humboldt, 
    240 F.3d 1185
    , 1204 (9th
    Cir. 2000)); see also Smith v. City of Hemet, 
    394 F.3d 689
    ,
    703 (9th Cir. 2005) (holding that officers should consider
    “alternative techniques available for subduing [a suspect] that
    presented a lesser threat of death or serious injury”).
    In this case, the record includes expert opinions about the
    reasonableness of using a firearm in this situation. Ms.
    Hughes’s expert concluded that Corporal Kisela should have
    used his Taser, and that shooting through the fence was both
    dangerous and excessive. Corporal Kisela’s expert opined
    that a Taser would likely have become tangled in the fence,
    and that the shooting was reasonable. It is well established
    that a jury may hear expert testimony in this type of case, and
    rely upon such evidence in assessing whether the officer’s use
    of force was unreasonable. See Larez v. City of Los Angeles,
    
    946 F.2d 630
    , 635 (9th Cir. 1991) (as amended) (finding that
    testimony of “an expert on proper police procedures and
    policies” was relevant and admissible). Here, the differences
    in the experts’ opinions reinforce our conclusion that there
    are questions for a jury to consider in determining whether
    Ms. Hughes’s constitutional rights were violated.
    This Court has noted that “[b]ecause [the question of
    excessive force] nearly always requires a jury to sift through
    disputed factual contentions, and to draw inferences
    therefrom, we have held on many occasions that summary
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    judgment or judgment as a matter of law in excessive force
    cases should be granted sparingly.” Santos v. Gates, 
    287 F.3d 846
    , 853 (9th Cir. 2002); see also Liston v. Cty. of Riverside,
    
    120 F.3d 965
    , 976 n.10 (9th Cir. 1997) (as amended) (“We
    have held repeatedly that the reasonableness of force used is
    ordinarily a question of fact for the jury.”). This is such a
    case. Material questions of fact, such as the severity of the
    threat, the adequacy of police warnings, and the potential for
    less intrusive means are plainly in dispute. See, e.g., City of
    
    Hemet, 394 F.3d at 703
    (“Considering the severity and extent
    of the force used, the three basic Graham factors, and the
    availability of other means of accomplishing the arrest, it is
    evident that the question whether the force used here was
    reasonable is a matter that cannot be resolved in favor of the
    defendants on summary judgment.”). Corporal Kisela is not
    entitled to summary judgment with respect to the
    reasonableness of his actions.
    II. Qualified Immunity
    The district court determined that because Corporal
    Kisela acted reasonably, it need not reach the question of
    qualified immunity. Nonetheless, the court commented that
    “under the totality of the circumstances and the standard of
    whether it would be clear to a reasonable officer that his
    conduct was unlawful in the situation he confronted, it
    appears that [Corporal Kisela’s] conduct was reasonable;
    [Corporal Kisela] would therefore be entitled to qualified
    immunity.” As discussed above, there are questions of fact
    in dispute that foreclose a finding of reasonableness as a
    matter of law. We therefore undertake a qualified immunity
    analysis.
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    The Supreme Court has explained that “[t]he doctrine of
    qualified immunity protects government officials ‘from
    liability for civil damages insofar as their conduct does not
    violate clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of
    which a reasonable person would have known.’” Pearson v.
    Callahan, 
    555 U.S. 223
    , 231 (2009) (quoting Harlow v.
    Fitzgerald, 
    457 U.S. 800
    , 818 (1982)). Qualified immunity
    shields an officer from liability even if his or her actions
    resulted from “a mistake of law, a mistake of fact, or a
    mistake based on mixed questions of law and fact.” Groh v.
    Ramirez, 
    540 U.S. 551
    , 567 (2004) (Kennedy, J., dissenting)).
    The purpose of qualified immunity is to strike a balance
    between the competing “need to hold public officials
    accountable when they exercise power irresponsibly and the
    need to shield officials from harassment, distraction, and
    liability when they perform their duties reasonably.” 
    Id. “Qualified immunity
    gives government officials breathing
    room to make reasonable but mistaken judgments about open
    legal questions. When properly applied, it protects ‘all but
    the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the
    law.’” Ashcroft v. Al-Kidd, 
    563 U.S. 731
    , 743 (2011)
    (quoting Malley v. Briggs, 
    475 U.S. 335
    , 341 (1986)).
    “In determining whether an officer is entitled to qualified
    immunity, we consider (1) whether there has been a violation
    of a constitutional right; and (2) whether that right was
    clearly established at the time of the officer’s alleged
    misconduct.” Lal v. California, 
    746 F.3d 1112
    , 1116 (9th
    Cir. 2014) (citing 
    Pearson, 555 U.S. at 232
    ). Consequently,
    at summary judgment, an officer may be denied qualified
    immunity in a Section 1983 action “only if (1) the facts
    alleged, taken in the light most favorable to the party
    asserting injury, show that the officer’s conduct violated a
    constitutional right, and (2) the right at issue was clearly
    HUGHES V. KISELA                       43
    established at the time of the incident such that a reasonable
    officer would have understood [his] conduct to be unlawful
    in that situation.” Torres v. City of Madera, 
    648 F.3d 1119
    ,
    1123 (9th Cir. 2011).
    Here, the question of a constitutional violation involves
    disputed facts which, when viewed most favorably to Ms.
    Hughes, could support a rational jury finding in her favor.
    We therefore move to the second question: whether the right
    at issue was clearly established such that a reasonable officer
    would have understood his actions were unlawful. The law
    does not “require a case directly on point, but existing
    precedent must have placed the . . . constitutional question
    beyond debate.” 
    al-Kidd, 563 U.S. at 740
    . That said, this
    Court has acknowledged that qualified immunity may be
    denied in novel circumstances. See Mattos v. Agarano,
    
    661 F.3d 433
    , 442 (9th Cir. 2011) (en banc) (citing Hope v.
    Pelzer, 
    536 U.S. 730
    , 741 (2002)). “Otherwise, officers
    would escape responsibility for the most egregious forms of
    conduct simply because there was no case on all fours
    prohibiting that particular manifestation of unconstitutional
    conduct.” 
    Deorle, 272 F.3d at 1286
    ; see also Brosseau v.
    Haugen, 
    543 U.S. 194
    , 199 (2004) (stating that “in an
    obvious case, these [Graham] standards can ‘clearly
    establish’ the answer, even without a body of relevant case
    law”).
    The most analogous Ninth Circuit case is Glenn, 
    673 F.3d 864
    , in which an eighteen-year-old man was shot in his
    driveway by police officers. Police received a report of an
    agitated, intoxicated man carrying a pocket knife and
    threatening to kill himself. Although at least one officer was
    told that the man had calmed down, when police saw him
    holding the knife to his own neck they drew their guns and
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    screamed for him to drop it. Additional officers arrived at the
    scene, one of whom shot the man with several beanbags. The
    impact of the beanbags caused the man to move away from
    the beanbag fire and toward the house in which his parents
    were standing. As police had determined that if the man
    “made a move toward the house with his parents inside, they
    would use deadly force,” they opened fire and killed him.
    
    Glenn, 673 F.3d at 869
    .
    Glenn is similar to this case in several respects. For
    example: it was not clear that the decedent in Glenn was
    actually threatening anyone; no serious crime was being
    committed; there was no effort to resist or evade arrest aside
    from failing to put down the knife; the failure to drop the
    knife may have been the result of confusion by an impaired
    person; and it might have been reasonable to use less
    intrusive force. Although the district court had granted
    summary judgment, this Court remanded Glenn for a jury
    trial.2 
    Id. at 879–80.
    2
    Glenn was decided on summary judgment after the incident that
    gave rise to this case. It concerned a shooting that occurred in 2006. The
    panel in Glenn concluded that “resolution of . . . [genuine factual] issues
    is crucial to a proper determination of the officers’ entitlement to qualified
    immunity,” and remanded the question whether the right was clearly
    established at the time of the alleged misconduct, to be decided “after the
    material factual disputes have been decided by the 
    jury.” 673 F.3d at 871
    .
    Although the panel stated that it was “[expressing] no opinion on the
    second part of the qualified immunity analysis,” the remand for trial would
    have been improper were the officers entitled to qualified immunity on the
    facts most favorable to the plaintiff. See 
    Mattos, 661 F.3d at 445
    –48, 452.
    We therefore read Glenn as at least suggestive of the state of the clearly
    established law at the time it was decided.
    In any event, we rely on Glenn as illustrative, not as indicative of the
    clearly established law in 2010. See Berzon, J., concurring in the denial
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    Deorle, 
    272 F.3d 1272
    , also offers similar facts, though
    the plaintiff in Deorle was acting far more strangely than Ms.
    Hughes. In Deorle, an officer responded to a call about an
    individual who was drunk and behaving erratically. At
    different points, the man brandished a hatchet, shouted “kill
    me,” threatened to “kick [a police officer’s] ass,” and walked
    around with an unloaded 
    cross-bow. 272 F.3d at 1276
    –77.
    Police observed him for five to ten minutes before the man
    began walking towards an officer with a bottle of lighter
    fluid. At that point the officer fired a bean bag, permanently
    blinding the man and fracturing his skull in several places.
    
    Id. at 1277–78.
    As in this case, police in Deorle were at the scene to
    investigate peculiar behavior.      Some sort of mental
    impairment was evident, the suspect was not trying to escape,
    and the risk of imminent harm was in question. In denying
    the officer’s qualified immunity defense, this Court wrote:
    Every police officer should know that it is
    objectively unreasonable to shoot . . . an
    unarmed man who: has committed no serious
    offense, is mentally or emotionally disturbed,
    has been given no warning of the imminent
    use of such a significant degree of force,
    poses no risk of flight, and presents no
    objectively reasonable threat to the safety of
    the officer or other individuals.
    
    Id. at 1285.
    of rehearing en banc, at 9–12.
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    Here, several of those same determinations are in dispute,
    namely: whether Corporal Kisela was reasonable in believing
    that the kitchen knife was a weapon; whether he should have
    suspected mental health issues; whether the warning was
    sufficient; and most importantly, whether it was reasonable
    to believe that Ms. Hughes presented a threat to Ms.
    Chadwick’s safety. If those questions are determined in Ms.
    Hughes’s favor, then Corporal Kisela clearly violated her
    constitutional right.
    Corporal Kisela claims support to the contrary from
    Blanford v. Sacramento County, 
    406 F.3d 1110
    (9th Cir.
    2005), in which police had received reports of a man in a ski
    mask carrying a sword through a suburban residential
    neighborhood. But that case could not reasonably be relied
    upon as justifying shooting Ms. Hughes. Mr. Blanford was
    carrying a two-and-a-half-foot-long Civil War-era cavalry
    saber and made “a loud growling or roaring sound.”
    
    Blanford, 406 F.3d at 1113
    . He then walked toward a
    residence and tried to enter after searching his pockets for
    keys. Unsuccessful, he turned to a walkway, saw the police
    officers with guns drawn, and heard them order him to drop
    the sword. The police shot the man as he rounded the far
    corner of the house, then again as he tried to enter through
    another door. After the man continued walking, police fired
    a third time and severed his spine, rendering him a paraplegic.
    On those facts, the Court found that the officers were entitled
    to qualified immunity. 
    Id. at 1119.
    This case, when viewing the facts in Ms. Hughes’s favor,
    differs from Blanford in several critical respects. Most
    importantly, in contrast to a clearly disturbed man carrying a
    sword, Ms. Hughes held a kitchen knife—which has a
    perfectly benign primary use—down at her side, and
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    according to Ms. Chadwick’s affidavit, did not appear either
    angry or menacing. The only information the police had
    regarding her use of the knife was that she was carving a tree,
    not that she was threatening or hurting a person. Mr.
    Blanford plainly disregarded police orders to drop the
    weapon. Here, it was apparent to Ms. Chadwick, and there is
    a fact issue whether it should have been evident to the police,
    that Ms. Hughes did not understand what was happening
    when they yelled for her to drop the knife. And in Blanford
    the suspect actively evaded police, while Ms. Hughes made
    no such attempt to get away.
    The application of qualified immunity in this case will
    depend upon the facts as determined by a jury. The facts,
    viewed in Ms. Hughes’s favor, present the police shooting a
    woman who was committing no crime and holding a kitchen
    knife. While the woman with the knife may have been acting
    erratically, was approaching a third party, and did not
    immediately comply with orders to drop the knife, a rational
    jury—again accepting the facts in the light most favorable to
    Ms. Hughes—could find that she had a constitutional right to
    walk down her driveway holding a knife without being shot.
    As indicated by Deorle and Harris, as well as the Supreme
    Court’s reference to the “obvious case,” 
    Brosseau, 543 U.S. at 199
    , that right was clearly established. Based on the
    disputed facts, Corporal Kisela is not entitled to qualified
    immunity.
    CONCLUSION
    We therefore reverse the district court’s grant of summary
    judgment and remand for a jury to determine whether
    Corporal Kisela’s use of deadly force was lawful.
    48             HUGHES V. KISELA
    REVERSED AND REMANDED.
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 14-15059

Filed Date: 6/27/2017

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 6/27/2017

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