United States v. Marc Willy ( 2022 )


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  •                         FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,                       No. 21-30006
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    D.C. Nos.
    v.                       1:19-cr-02059-SAB-1
    1:19-cr-02059-SAB
    MARC ANTHONY WILLY,
    Defendant-Appellee.                       OPINION
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Washington
    Stanley A. Bastian, Chief District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted February 7, 2022
    Seattle, Washington
    Filed July 26, 2022
    Before: Jay S. Bybee and Morgan Christen, Circuit Judges,
    and James V. Selna,* District Judge.
    Opinion by Judge Bybee;
    Dissent by Judge Christen
    *
    The Honorable James V. Selna, United States District Judge for the
    Central District of California, sitting by designation.
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    SUMMARY**
    Criminal Law
    The panel affirmed the district court’s order granting
    Marc Anthony Willy’s motion to suppress evidence and
    statements obtained after his arrest, in a case that required the
    panel to determine whether there was probable cause to arrest
    Willy for displaying a weapon in a manner that “warrant[ed]
    alarm for the safety of other persons.” 
    Wash. Rev. Code § 9.41.270
    (1).
    Willy was arrested after two people separately reported
    that a man in a truck had displayed a firearm while asking
    them questions about an alleged kidnapping in the area. After
    his arrest, a search of Willy’s vehicle and person recovered
    illegal firearms and a modified CO2 cartridge. He was
    charged with making and possessing a destructive device in
    violation of the National Firearms Act.
    Explaining important context for Willy’s actions, the
    panel noted that Washington is an open carry state (i.e., it is
    presumptively legal to carry a firearm openly) in which it is
    a misdemeanor to carry a concealed pistol without a license,
    but also a “shall issue state” meaning that local law
    enforcement must issue a concealed weapons license if the
    applicant meets certain qualifications. The panel wrote that
    the bare fact that Willy displayed a weapon would not be
    sufficient to stop Willy, because there is no evidence that
    Willy was carrying a concealed weapon. Noting that
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    Washington courts have narrowed terms in § 9.41.270(1) to
    preserve the constitutionality of the statute, the panel
    observed that what emerges is a workable standard: The act
    must warrant alarm in a reasonable person for the safety of
    others.
    A sheriff’s deputy’s suspicion that Willy had violated
    § 9.41.270 arose not from his own observations but from the
    accounts of the two reporting parties. The panel wrote that it
    was reasonable for an officer in the sheriff’s deputy’s position
    to rely on the information, but concluded that the deputy did
    not, consistent with Washington law and the Fourth
    Amendment, have probable cause to arrest Willy without
    further inquiry for three reasons. First, it was not clearly
    erroneous for the district court to conclude that neither
    reporting party indicated to the deputy that Willy displayed
    his firearm in a threatening manner. Second, § 9.41.270(1)
    requires more than the mere display of a firearm, and at the
    time the deputy located Willy, he did not have sufficient
    information to reasonably believe Willy had displayed his
    gun in a manner that warrants alarm. The panel wrote that
    although the reports indicated that Willy displayed the
    firearm rather than just carrying it, this distinction does not,
    in an open-carry state, create enough of a possibility of
    criminal activity that Willy was subject to immediate arrest
    without further investigation. Finally, the district court
    accurately stated that § 9.41.270(1) both incorporates a
    reasonable person standard and does not require that a
    person’s actions actively cause alarm.
    As the government did not challenge application of the
    “fruit of the poisonous tree” doctrine, the panel affirmed the
    district court’s application of the exclusionary rule to
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    suppress Willy’s statements, the firearms, and the CO2
    device.
    Dissenting, Judge Christen wrote that the deputy without
    question had probable cause to suspect that Willy violated the
    second clause of § 9.41.270(1) because the reliability of the
    callers’ reports was verified when the details they provided
    checked out; and it was the deputy’s perilous duty to arrest
    Willy, a man he had good reason to believe to be armed and
    mentally compromised, for displaying a firearm “in a manner,
    under circumstances, and at a time and place that . . . warrants
    alarm for the safety of other persons.”
    COUNSEL
    Richard C. Burson (argued), Assistant United States
    Attorney; Joseph H. Harrington, Acting United States
    Attorney; United States Attorney’s Office, Yakima,
    Washington; for Plaintiff-Appellant.
    Jeremy B. Sporn (argued), Federal Defenders of Eastern
    Washington and Idaho, Yakima, Washington, for Defendant-
    Appellee.
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    OPINION
    BYBEE, Circuit Judge:
    This case requires us to determine whether there was
    probable cause to arrest Marc Anthony Willy for displaying
    a weapon in a manner that “warrant[ed] alarm for the safety
    of other persons.” 
    Wash. Rev. Code § 9.41.270
    (1). Willy
    was arrested after two people separately reported that a man
    in a truck had displayed a firearm while asking them
    questions about an alleged kidnapping in the area. After his
    arrest, a search of Willy’s vehicle and person recovered
    illegal firearms and a modified CO2 cartridge. Willy was
    charged with making and possessing a destructive device in
    violation of the National Firearms Act, 
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    .
    The district court granted Willy’s motion to suppress all
    evidence and statements obtained after his arrest because his
    arrest was not supported by probable cause. We affirm.
    I. BACKGROUND
    On May 12, 2019, the Yakima County’s Sheriff’s Office
    received a call from a witness (“Reporting Party 1”) stating
    that a man had pulled up outside of his home in a vehicle and
    displayed a firearm. Dispatch relayed this information to
    Deputy Curtis Thaxton, who interviewed Reporting Party 1
    at his residence. Reporting Party 1 told Deputy Thaxton that
    a white male in a green truck pulled up on the street in front
    of his house and began talking about being abducted and kept
    somewhere in the area. The man said he was trying to find
    the place where he was kept. During the conversation, the
    man pulled out a semiautomatic pistol, racked the slide, and
    then put it down. Reporting Party 1 expressed concern about
    the man’s mental state. He provided Deputy Thaxton with
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    the truck’s license plate number, and the vehicle came back
    as registered to Marc Willy. Thaxton showed Reporting
    Party 1 Willy’s Department of Licensing photo, and he
    identified Willy as the man with whom he had spoken.
    Reporting Party 1 said that Willy made no threats to him, nor
    had Willy pointed the pistol at him at any time.
    About ten minutes after leaving Reporting Party 1’s
    residence, Deputy Thaxton responded to another report from
    dispatch. The second call had come from Reporting Party 2,
    who lived about three miles from the previous caller. Deputy
    Thaxton spoke to the second witness over the phone because
    Reporting Party 2 had already left her residence. Reporting
    Party 2 stated that a man with a name like “Willis” pulled up
    to her gate in a green truck when she was leaving her house
    and told her that he had been kidnapped and held in a
    camouflaged trailer or van in the area and that he was trying
    to find it. While they were talking, the man told her he was
    armed and then displayed a pistol and put it away. Reporting
    Party 2 told the man she did not know the place he was
    looking for, and he drove away. Reporting Party 2 said that
    she was not was not directly threatened, nor was Willy
    argumentative or hostile.
    Deputy Thaxton resumed patrol and testified that at this
    point he was concerned that Willy was “a danger to himself
    or others in the area,” because
    the way he was rambling on, that things
    weren’t completely coherent what was going
    on; that he would possibly use it if confronted
    with somebody else, that he had made contact
    with somebody else; that once the gun’s
    out—normal people just don’t walk around
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    displaying firearms out to people when they
    pull up.
    Thaxton believed Willy “had already committed the violation
    of carry, exhibit, draw a dangerous weapon or firearm with an
    intent to create an affront or alarm to another.” See 
    Wash. Rev. Code § 9.41.270.1
     Deputy Thaxton located the green
    truck pulling into a gas station. Once he confirmed the
    license plate matched the one given to him by Reporting
    Party 1, Deputy Thaxton turned on his emergency lights and
    conducted a “high-risk stop.” With his firearm drawn,
    Deputy Thaxton ordered Willy out of the vehicle. Willy
    complied with all of Deputy Thaxton’s orders. While making
    Willy turn around, Deputy Thaxton saw a pistol holstered on
    his hip. Deputy Thaxton removed the gun, put Willy in
    handcuffs, and escorted him to the back seat of the police
    vehicle.
    After securing Willy’s pistol in the patrol car, Deputy
    Thaxton noticed that the gun had the serial number scratched
    off. Deputy Thaxton read Willy his Miranda rights, and
    Willy indicated that he was willing to talk to Deputy Thaxton.
    1
    Section 9.41.270 provides in relevant part:
    It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit,
    display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or
    other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other
    weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm,
    in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and
    place that either manifests an intent to intimidate
    another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other
    persons.
    
    Wash. Rev. Code § 9.41.270
    (1). Violation of this subsection is a gross
    misdemeanor. 
    Id.
     § 9.41.270(2).
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    Willy told Deputy Thaxton that he had been abducted and
    kept at a location for several days and that he had escaped but
    police had not done anything to help him. When asked about
    the scratched off serial number, Willy stated that he bought
    the gun already in that condition three or four years
    previously at a gun show in Spokane.
    Willy consented to a search of his truck and stood by the
    patrol car while Deputy Thaxton started the search. As
    Deputy Thaxton moved to the passenger-side door, Willy told
    him that there was a sawed-off shotgun on the rear floorboard
    of the truck. Deputy Thaxton recovered a non-functional
    short-barrel shotgun from the vehicle. After the vehicle
    search, Deputy Thaxton took Willy to Yakima County Jail for
    booking. When Thaxton searched Willy, he recovered a CO2
    cartridge that had crimp marks around the neck and two
    pieces of fuse coming out of the neck. ATF agents later
    determined that the device qualified as a “destructive device”
    under 
    26 U.S.C. § 5845
    (f).
    Deputy Thaxton conferred with the prosecutor’s office
    and told them his reasons for arresting Willy. The prosecutor
    recommended charging Willy with possessing an
    altered-number pistol and a short-barrel shotgun. In his
    “Declaration of Probable Cause,” in support of those two
    charges, Deputy Thaxton wrote that “[Willy] displayed a
    black semi auto pistol [to Reporting Witness 1] and loaded it
    (racked the slide). [Willy] never threatened anyone with it
    and didn’t point it towards him.” He also wrote that
    Reporting Witness 2 said “[Willy] told her he was armed and
    displayed a black pistol” and that “[Willy] never threatened
    her with it or pointed it at her.” Willy was ultimately charged
    with violating § 9.41.270 and altering the serial number on
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    the pistol. The record does not disclose any resolution of the
    state charges.
    A federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Washington
    returned a three-count indictment charging Willy with
    receiving and possessing an improvised explosive
    device—the altered CO2 cartridge—in violation of 
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    (c), receiving and possessing an improvised explosive
    device which was not registered to him in violation of
    
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    (d), and making an improvised explosive
    device in violation of 
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    (f). Willy filed a
    motion to suppress the evidence. A hearing on the motion
    was held, during which Deputy Thaxton testified. The
    district court granted the motion to suppress, finding that
    although Deputy Thaxton had reasonable suspicion to
    conduct an investigatory stop, Thaxton lacked probable cause
    to make the arrest. The evidence was “tainted by the
    illegality of the arrest.” The government filed a timely notice
    of appeal.
    II. JURISDICTION AND STANDARD OF REVIEW
    The district court had jurisdiction under 
    18 U.S.C. § 3231
    .
    We have jurisdiction pursuant to 
    18 U.S.C. § 3731
     and
    
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
    . We review de novo the district court’s
    ruling on a motion to suppress and for clear error any
    underlying findings of historical fact. United States v. Torres,
    
    828 F.3d 1113
    , 1118 (9th Cir. 2016). We must “give due
    weight to inferences drawn from th[e] facts by resident judges
    and local law enforcement officers.” Ornelas v. United
    States, 
    517 U.S. 690
    , 699 (1996). The district court’s
    interpretation of state law, including state statutes, is
    reviewed de novo. Brunozzi v. Cable Commc’ns, Inc.,
    
    851 F.3d 990
    , 995 (9th Cir. 2017).
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    III. DISCUSSION
    The Fourth Amendment, applicable to the United States
    and made applicable to the states by the Fourteenth
    Amendment, protects the right of the people to be secure in
    their persons, houses, papers, and effects against
    unreasonable searches and seizures. U.S. Const. amend. IV;
    see Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 8 (1968). The Fourth
    Amendment provides that a warrant for arrest “shall [not]
    issue, but upon probable cause.” In this case, Willy was
    arrested for violating § 9.41.270—only later was he charged
    with altering the serial number on the pistol (the basis for a
    second state charge actually filed against him) or possessing
    the crimped CO2 cartridge (the basis for the federal charges).
    The evidence supporting the federal charges was seized after
    Willy’s arrest during a search at the jail. Thus, the
    “constitutional validity of the search . . . depend[s] upon the
    constitutional validity of [Willy’s] arrest.” Beck v. Ohio,
    
    379 U.S. 89
    , 91 (1964). Accordingly,
    [w]hether that arrest was constitutionally valid
    depends in turn upon whether, at the moment
    the arrest was made, [Deputy Thaxton] had
    probable cause to make it—whether at that
    moment the facts and circumstances within
    [his] knowledge and of which [he] had
    reasonably trustworthy information were
    sufficient to warrant a prudent man in
    believing that the petitioner had committed or
    was committing an offense.
    Id.; see also United States v. Lopez, 
    482 F.3d 1067
    , 1072 (9th
    Cir. 2007).
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    Deputy Thaxton testified that, even before he found Willy
    at a service station and activated his light bar, he had
    determined that Willy had violated Washington law and that
    he was going to arrest Willy. Since Thaxton himself had not
    observed any suspicious conduct by Willy, the question is
    whether he had probable cause to arrest Willy based only on
    the two reports.
    “Articulating precisely what ‘reasonable suspicion’ and
    ‘probable cause’ mean is not possible.               They are
    commonsense, nontechnical conceptions that deal with ‘the
    factual and practical considerations of everyday life on which
    reasonable prudent men, not legal technicians, act.’”
    Ornelas, 
    517 U.S. at 695
     (quoting Illinois v. Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    , 231 (1983)). We do not have “a neat set of legal rules,”
    Gates, 
    462 U.S. at 232
    , but must “examine whether the facts
    and circumstances within the officer’s knowledge are
    sufficient to warrant a prudent person to believe a suspect has
    committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime.”
    United States v. Valencia, 
    24 F.3d 1106
    , 1108 (9th Cir. 1994).
    Although we do not have a precise test, “probable cause” is
    a higher standard than the “reasonable suspicion” required to
    conduct a Terry stop and make further inquiries. Kansas v.
    Glover, 
    140 S. Ct. 1183
    , 1187 (2020) (“[T]he level of
    suspicion the [Terry stop] standard requires is . . . obviously
    less than is necessary for probable cause.” (quoting Navarette
    v. California, 
    572 U.S. 393
    , 397 (2014))).
    We thus turn to Washington law to determine whether
    Deputy Thaxton had grounds under § 9.41.270 for arresting
    Willy. See United States v. Bontemps, 
    977 F.3d 909
    , 914 (9th
    Cir. 2020), cert. denied, 
    141 S. Ct. 2874
     (2021).
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    A. The Scope of Washington Revised Code § 9.41.270
    We begin with important context for Willy’s actions.
    Washington is an open carry state. That means that it is
    presumptively legal to carry a firearm openly. As we recently
    observed in United States v. Brown, 
    925 F.3d 1150
     (9th Cir.
    2019), it is a misdemeanor to carry a concealed pistol without
    a license, but “Washington is a ‘shall issue state,’ meaning
    that local law enforcement must issue a concealed weapons
    license if the applicant meets certain qualifications.” 
    Id. 1154
    (emphasis in original). The bare fact that Willy displayed a
    weapon would not be sufficient to stop Willy, because there
    is no evidence that he was carrying a concealed weapon. The
    reporting parties’ statements that Willy was carrying a gun
    “created at most a very weak inference that he was unlawfully
    carrying the gun [concealed] without a license, and certainly
    not enough to alone support a Terry stop.” 
    Id.
     Moreover,
    Thaxton acquired no additional reasons for arresting Willy
    until after he stopped him: When Thaxton ordered Willy to
    leave his truck and turn around slowly, Willy was openly
    carrying his pistol, in a holster on his hip.
    As we have observed, notwithstanding that Washington
    is an open carry state, it is a gross misdemeanor in
    Washington for a person to “carry, exhibit, display, or draw
    any firearm . . . in a manner, under circumstances, and at a
    time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate
    another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other
    persons.” 
    Wash. Rev. Code § 9.41.270
    (1). The Washington
    courts have construed critical terms in the statute, narrowing
    them to preserve the constitutionality of the statute. Two
    cases are of particular note.
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    In the first, State v. Maciolek, 
    676 P.2d 996
     (Wash. 1984),
    the Washington Supreme Court addressed a void-for-
    vagueness challenge to § 9.41.270. Maciolek involved two
    separate convictions under § 9.41.270, consolidated for the
    appeal. In the first case, Maciolek was convicted of violating
    § 9.41.270 after he became angry when his doctor would not
    renew his prescription for Percodan. Maciolek “deliberately
    pulled back his jacket to reveal a handgun . . . . The doctor,
    alarmed and intimidated by this display, immediately wrote
    out a prescription for Percodan.” Id. at 997. In the second
    case, Johnson was a 13-year old who had an altercation with
    a pair of 9-year olds. He fired his BB gun at them and then
    took one of their bikes. Id. The Washington Supreme Court
    held that the statute was not void for vagueness and upheld
    both convictions.2 The cases challenged the statute on two
    grounds: the vagueness in the phrase “a knife or other cutting
    or stabbing instrument” and in the phrase “in a manner, under
    circumstances and at a time and place that either manifests an
    intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the
    safety of other persons.” Only the latter phrase is in play
    here. The court began with the definition of “intimidate,”
    which it said was “defined very narrowly” as to “inspire or
    affect with fear . . . (as by threats).” Id. at 999 (quoting
    Webster’s Third New Int’l Dictionary 1184 (1961)). In a
    lengthy footnote, the court stated that the phrase “warrants
    2
    The court also affirmed a third case, in which the defendant was
    seen chasing a woman up the center of the street with a knife. The
    defendant was convicted under a Seattle municipal statute similar to
    § 9.41.270. Maciolek, 676 P.2d at 997.
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    alarm for the safety of other[s]” was sufficiently qualified by
    other language to “giv[e] the statute a narrow scope”:
    If a weapon is displayed in a manner, under
    circumstances and at a time and place so that
    it poses a threat to another person, such a
    display would warrant alarm for the safety of
    another. Thus, narrowly construing the phrase
    to apply to only conduct that poses a threat to
    others gives the phrase a narrow and definite
    focus and saves it from vagueness. Such a
    construction is also consistent with the
    statute’s purpose, which is to prevent
    someone from displaying dangerous weapons
    so as to reasonably intimidate members of the
    public.
    Id. at 1001 n.3 (citations omitted).
    The second is a decision of the Washington Court of
    Appeals, State v. Spencer, 
    876 P.2d 939
    , 943 (Wash. Ct. App.
    1994), upholding the statute against a challenge under
    Washington’s equivalent of the Second Amendment.3
    Spencer was convicted under § 9.41.270 when he was seen by
    multiple people walking with his dog at night in an urban area
    3
    The Washington Constitution provides:
    The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in
    defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired,
    but nothing in this section shall be construed as
    authorizing individuals or corporations to organize,
    maintain or employ an armed body of men.
    Wash. Const. art. 1, § 24.
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    with an AK-47S, with the magazine attached, on his shoulder.
    The responding officer saw Spencer “in ‘a hostile, assaultive
    type manner with the weapon ready.’” Id. at 940. The
    Washington Court of Appeals rejected the constitutional
    challenge. It found that “the statute does not prevent a person
    from carrying weapons in self-defense” and “[i]f there is no
    present threat, weapons must be carried in a manner that does
    not warrant alarm in others.” Id. at 941. The court explained
    that § 9.41.270
    only prohibits the carrying or displaying of
    weapons when objective circumstances would
    warrant alarm in a reasonable person. Thus,
    the restriction applies only in a limited
    number of situations. . . . In the vast majority
    of situations, a person of common intelligence
    would be able to ascertain when the carrying
    of a particular weapon would reasonably
    warrant alarm in others.
    Id. at 942 (footnote omitted). In a pair of footnotes, the court
    added that “[t]hese circumstances may include, as in
    [Spencer’s] case, the fact that the weapon is being carried in
    a residential neighborhood, the time of day, the urban
    environment, the manner in which the weapon is carried, the
    size and type of weapon, and the fact that the weapon has a
    clip visibly attached. . . . [Spencer’s case] does not fall
    anywhere near a potential ‘grey area’ in the statute.” Id. at
    942 nn.4–5. The court then visited the question raised in
    Maciolek, whether the statute was void for vagueness. The
    Court of Appeals held that the statute had “a sufficiently
    narrow scope.” Id. at 943. It also adopted a lower court’s
    reading that “a reasonable person standard is incorporated
    into the phrase ‘warrants alarm.’” Id.; see id. at 943 n.7
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    (“[T]here must be a sufficient objective basis for the alarm,
    i.e., circumstances must be such that a reasonable person
    would be alarmed.”). “When viewed with these two
    limitations in mind, it is clear that the statute is sufficiently
    definite to (1) provide defendants with adequate notice of
    prohibited conduct and (2) provide adequate enforcement
    standards.” Id. at 943. In Spencer’s case, the court repeated,
    “[a]ny reasonable person would feel alarmed upon seeing, on
    a residential street at night, a man carrying a visibly loaded
    AK-47 assault rifle in an assaultive manner. . . . [A] person of
    common intelligence would realize that carrying an assault
    rifle under such circumstances and in such a manner would
    warrant alarm in others.” Id. at 943–44.
    If we consider Maciolek and Spencer together, what
    emerges is a workable standard for judges and juries to
    evaluate: The act must warrant alarm in a reasonable person
    for the safety of others. Maciolek, 676 P.2d at 1001 n.3;
    Spencer, 
    876 P.2d at
    943 & n.7. A broader construction,
    Washington courts have suggested, might well run afoul of
    void-for-vagueness principles or the right under the
    Washington Constitution “to bear arms in defense of
    himself.”
    The dissent insists on reading the phrase “warrants alarm
    for the safety of other persons” in isolation. Dissenting Op.
    at 34. This approach expands § 9.41.270(1) beyond its
    intended scope. As the Washington courts have explained,
    “narrowly construing the phrase [‘warrants alarm for the
    safety of other[s]’] to apply to only conduct that poses a
    threat to others gives the phrase a narrow and definite focus
    and saves it from vagueness” and is consistent with the
    statute’s purpose. Maciolek, 676 P.2d at 1001 n.3. Although
    Willy’s conduct could only arguably violate the “warrants
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    alarm” portion of the statute, the rest of the statute is not
    irrelevant—it gives us the proper context and respects
    Washington’s decision to interpret § 9.41.270(1) to avoid
    constitutional problems. The preceding phrase, “manifests an
    intent to intimidate another,” indicates that the Washington
    legislature did not intend “warrants alarm for the safety of
    other persons” to apply broadly to all conduct that might raise
    concern—a reading that swallows the first portion of the
    statute.4 Rather, the “warrants alarm” portion is best read as
    capturing the scenarios where someone is not directly
    threatening a person who is present, but is handling their
    firearm in such a way that it presents a danger to others. See
    State v. Workman, 
    584 P.2d 382
    , 386 (Wash. 1978) (holding
    that even though no one saw the firearm, the defendants
    handling of a gun while attempting to commit attempted
    armed robbery “warrant[ed] alarm for the safety of anyone
    who may chance to be nearby”). We choose to take the
    Washington courts’ lead and read “warrants alarm” to refer
    to conduct that a reasonable person would believe poses a
    threat to themselves or other persons.
    We have reviewed Washington cases involving charges
    or convictions under § 9.41.270. These cases have addressed
    a variety of circumstances, but all have involved palpable
    threats with a weapon and did not approach what the Spencer
    court termed “a potential ‘grey area’ in the statute.” Spencer,
    
    876 P.2d at
    942 n.5. For example, in State v. Baggett,
    4
    Indeed, under the dissent’s expansive reading, it is hard to imagine
    conduct that would “manifest[] an intent to intimidate” without also
    “warrant[ing] alarm for the safety of other persons.” Dissenting Op.
    42–44. We must avoid rendering the first prohibition superfluous. See
    Rivard v. State, 
    231 P.3d 186
    , 190 (Wash. 2010). Instead, we should
    assume that the second portion of the statute attempts to capture related
    but not overlapping conduct.
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    13 P.3d 659
     (Wash. Ct. App. 2000), a police officer saw
    Baggett leaning out of the passenger window of a parked car
    with a rifle, evidently about to shoot a cat on the side of the
    road. When Baggett saw the patrol car, he ordered his wife
    to drive away, but she stopped when the officer activated his
    siren. The officer instructed Baggett to drop his rifle, and
    Baggett pointed the rifle at the officer. The Washington
    Court of Appeals had no difficulty concluding that “[t]he
    manner in which he held the rifle warranted alarm for the
    safety of [the officer].” 
    Id. at 662
    .
    In State v. Glenn, 
    166 P.3d 1235
     (Wash. Ct. App. 2007),
    a seven-year old boy reported that a man in a passing car had
    pointed a gun at him. His mother called 911 with the license
    plate of a car matching the boy’s description. As the officers
    interviewed the boy, the car passed by and the boy again
    identified the car. The officers conducted a high-risk stop.
    The driver, Glenn, was ordered out of the car, handcuffed,
    and read his Miranda rights. The officers found $1,100 on
    Glenn and marijuana in his car; they never found a gun. The
    Washington Court of Appeals nevertheless upheld Glenn’s
    conviction on the marijuana charge. The court held that the
    officers had “received a legitimate citizen’s report that a
    driver had pointed a gun from his vehicle . . . . Pointing a gun
    at a victim is serious criminal conduct.” 
    Id. at 1239
    .
    Other cases are consistent with these principles. See State
    v. Evans, 
    179 Wash. App. 1015
     (2014) (upholding a search
    based on a 911 complaint that a man was “waving a gun at
    her daughter”); State v. Hoston, 
    175 Wash. App. 1073
     (2013)
    (upholding a search based on a report by three men in an area
    known for gang activity who saw a man flash a handgun and
    then put it in his waistband in the context of a “rolling fight”);
    State v. Owens, 
    324 P.3d 757
    , 759 (Wash. Ct. App. 2014)
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    (upholding a § 9.41.270 conviction when after a verbal
    altercation which prompted a 911 call, Owens advised that he
    was going to get his gun since the cops were coming, ignored
    officers’ orders, and continued approaching with a rifle);
    State v. Smith, 
    93 P.3d 877
    , 878 (Wash. Ct. App. 2003)
    (upholding § 9.41.270 conviction where Smith threatened,
    “I’m going to get my 45, and we’ll take care of business,”
    before returning and swinging his gun in the air, threatening
    with a pipe, and throwing a hammer); State v. M.T., 
    97 Wash. App. 1067
    , at *3 (1999) (upholding a conviction based on a
    seven-year old’s report that a man had approached her with
    a closed pocketknife which he thrust in the air; she had
    previously seen the man “pierce his own hand with the
    knife”; and “a reasonable person would be intimidated by
    M.T.’s display of the knife, even though the knife was
    closed”); see also United States v. Caraang, 
    2018 WL 2216103
    , at *1–3 (W.D. Wash. 2018) (holding that an officer
    had reasonable suspicion to stop Caraang where he was
    reported to have waved a gun in a bar parking lot in the
    presence of five to ten people, racked the slide, and yelled
    “anybody want some?”); Hill v. Ramsdell, 
    2016 WL 1304847
    (W.D. Wash. 2016) (holding that police had probable cause
    to arrest Hill on § 9.41.270 charges when he attended a city
    council meeting wearing what appeared to be brass knuckles);
    State v. Mitchell, 
    906 P.2d 1013
     (Wash. Ct. App. 1995)
    (holding that an officer had reasonable suspicion to stop
    Mitchell when he was carrying a semi-automatic weapon in
    an urban, residential area at night, he tucked the gun in his
    waistband when he saw the officer, and tossed the gun when
    the officer ordered him to put his hands up).5
    5
    The dissent argues that Mitchell cannot be squared with our reading
    of § 9.41.270. Dissenting Op. at 43–44. First, we note that the Mitchell
    court only determined that the officers had reasonable suspicion to
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    Just as important to our analysis, Washington courts have
    refused to enforce § 9.41.270 when the threats are not
    sufficiently direct or imminent. For example, in State v.
    Cardenas-Muratalla, 
    319 P.3d 811
     (Wash. Ct. App. 2014),
    police received a 911 call reporting a man with a gun in a
    high crime area of downtown Seattle. Police saw a man
    answering the description—Cardenas-Muratalla—and
    thought that he “fluffed” his sweatshirt when he saw the
    approaching patrol car. When Cardenas-Muratalla did not
    stop in response to the officers’ instructions, the officers tased
    and shot him. Cardenas-Muratalla was carrying an unloaded
    pistol in his waistband. The Washington Superior Court
    refused to suppress the evidence of the gun, but the
    Washington Court of Appeals reversed. The court held that
    the 911 call had not reported any criminal activity: “Carrying
    a firearm is a crime if it is carried or displayed in a manner
    that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that
    warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.” 
    Id. at 816
    (footnote omitted; citing § 9.41.270). In Cardenas-
    Muratalla, “[t]here [was] no evidence in the record that the
    911 caller reported being intimidated or alarmed when the
    suspect showed him the gun or that the suspect discharged the
    conduct a Terry stop based on § 9.41.270. 
    906 P.2d at 1016
    . Mitchell
    was arrested for being a minor in possession of a handgun only after the
    officers learned of his identity and criminal record. 
    Id. at 1015
    . Second,
    when officers passed Mitchell, who was walking in an urban residential
    neighborhood at night, he tucked the firearm into his waistband,
    concealing the weapon from view. We agree that openly carrying a
    firearm under unusual circumstances, which might include the time of day,
    neighborhood, manner of carry, and type of firearm, see Spencer, 
    876 P.2d at
    949 nn.4–5, could constitute a violation of § 9.41.270(1). And as in
    Mitchell, the officers here could have stopped Willy to inquire further.
    The difference is Thaxton arrested Willy on the spot whereas the officers
    in Mitchell conducted a Terry stop and then discovered an independent
    ground for arrest.
    UNITED STATES V. WILLY                          21
    gun or pointed it at anyone. In fact, “the caller told the 911
    operator, ‘He didn’t threaten me. It’s just that he showed me.
    I seen it. . . . Just calling to tell you, just calling to tell you.’”
    Id. The court held that the 911 call did not even “rais[e] a
    reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.” Id.
    Similarly, in State v. Casad, 
    139 Wash. App. 1032
     (Wash.
    Ct. App. 2007), a 911 caller reported seeing a man walking
    down a public street with a rifle in a towel. When the police
    saw Casad, it was 2 p.m. in the afternoon, and he was walking
    with two rifles pointed downward and partially covered with
    a towel. Police stopped Casad, and he told them he did not
    have a car and was taking the rifles to a pawn shop. The
    rifles were unloaded. Casad had a felony record and was
    arrested for unlawful possession of a firearm. The
    Washington Superior Court held that police lacked grounds
    to conduct a Terry stop, and the Washington Court of
    Appeals affirmed the suppression of the evidence as fruit of
    an unlawful detention. The court of appeals held that Casad
    could not be stopped even to investigate potential violation of
    § 9.41.270. Given the time of day, the location, and the
    manner in which Casad was carrying the rifles, “[i]t [was] not
    unlawful for a person to responsibly walk down the street
    with a visible firearm, even if this action would shock some
    people.” Id. at *5.
    Our recent decision in a Washington case involving
    § 9.41.270 is consistent with these rulings. In United States
    v. Brown, 
    925 F.3d 1150
     (9th Cir. 2019), we held that a report
    of a gun did not even constitute reasonable suspicion to stop
    Brown. Seattle police received a 911 call reporting that an
    unidentified person saw a young, black man with a gun. An
    officer spotted Brown, who matched the description, and
    “drove behind him for several blocks before turning on his
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    patrol lights and driving the wrong direction down a one-way
    street to follow Brown.” 
    Id. at 1152
    . When the officer turned
    on his lights and began following Brown, he ran. We held
    that the officers lacked reasonable suspicion even to stop
    Brown. 
    Id.
     at 1153–56; see 
    id. at 1154
     (“The anonymous tip
    that Brown had a gun thus created at most a very weak
    inference that was unlawfully carrying the gun without a
    license, and certainly not enough to alone support a Terry
    stop.”). We pointed to the fact that Washington is a “shall
    issue state” and that there was no evidence that Brown was
    carrying without a license. Nor was there anything in the
    manner in which Brown was carrying that would have
    implicated § 9.41.270: “No evidence shows that the resident
    was alarmed at the time she reported seeing the gun. There
    is no report that she yelled, screamed, ran, was upset, or
    otherwise acted as though she was distressed.” Id. at 1154.
    Thus, “[c]onsidering . . . the presumptive legality of carrying
    a concealed firearm in Washington, the ‘tip’ alone did not
    create reasonable suspicion that Brown was engaged in any
    criminal activity.” Id.6
    The dissent dismisses these cases as involving “innocuous
    conduct.” Dissenting Op. at 44. But part of the significance
    of those cases lies in the fact that the defendants were arrested
    by police and charged by prosecutors. Obviously those
    entities did not consider the defendants’ conduct “innocuous.”
    These cases are part of a dialogue between police and
    6
    In contrast, we have consistently found reports that a defendant is
    carrying a concealed weapon sufficient to give rise to reasonable suspicion
    of potential illegal activity in California, where carrying a concealed
    firearm is presumptively a crime. See e.g., Bontemps, 977 F.3d at 914;
    United States v. Vandergroen, 
    964 F.3d 876
    , 881 (9th Cir. 2020); Foster
    v. City of Indio, 
    908 F.3d 1204
    , 1215 (9th Cir. 2018).
    UNITED STATES V. WILLY                     23
    prosecutors on the one hand, and the courts on the other, to
    establish the boundaries for lawful and unlawful carrying and
    display of weapons. Moreover, in two of the cases, Brown
    and Casad, the courts concluded that not only did the police
    lack probable cause to arrest, they lacked reasonable
    suspicion to conduct a Terry stop. See Brown, 925 F.3d
    at 1154; Casad, 
    139 Wash. App. 1032
     at *5.
    The question for us, of course, is which side of the line
    drawn by the Washington courts does Willy’s conduct fall
    on? We turn to that question.
    B. Applying These Principles to Willy
    Deputy Thaxton’s suspicion that Willy had violated
    § 9.41.270 arose not from his own observations but from the
    accounts of two reporting parties. For our purposes, we will
    assume that the information was reliable, but we are confident
    the circumstances will bear out the assumption. See Florida
    v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 270–74 (2000); Vandergroen, 964 F.3d
    at 879–80. The parties identified themselves, provided
    Deputy Thaxton with detailed reports, and provided
    consistent details of their very recent encounters with Willy.
    It was reasonable for an officer in Deputy Thaxton’s position
    to rely on the information. See Foster, 908 F.3d at 1214.
    The more difficult question is not whether Deputy
    Thaxton should have investigated further, but whether, on the
    basis of the two reports, he had probable cause to arrest Willy
    without further inquiry. If Thaxton had probable cause, it
    means he could have arrested Willy at his home or place of
    employment; it means he could have procured a warrant and
    then arrested Willy the following day or the following week.
    Although the reports Deputy Thaxton received were reliable,
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    under Washington law, they did not describe conduct that a
    reasonable officer would believe violated § 9.41.270. We
    conclude that Deputy Thaxton did not have probable cause to
    arrest Willy for three reasons.
    First, the district court’s key factual findings were based
    on the in-court testimony of Deputy Thaxton. The court
    found that both reporting parties indicated that Willy did not
    display the gun in a threatening manner and did not indicate
    that Willy threatened any individual, including his alleged
    kidnappers, or pointed the gun at anyone. These findings are
    not “illogical, implausible, or without support in the record.”
    See United States v. Graf, 
    610 F.3d 1148
    , 1157 (9th Cir.
    2010). Deputy Thaxton testified that he understood Willy’s
    interactions with the reporting parties were not lengthy or
    “especially hostile,” and that neither party indicated Willy
    was argumentative. Both reporting parties told Deputy
    Thaxton that Willy had not pointed the gun at them or made
    any demands of them. Willy appeared to only want any
    information the reporting parties might have about his alleged
    kidnapping, and when the parties indicated they knew
    nothing, Willy left “peacefully.” Deputy Thaxton testified
    that neither reporting party seemed to be “overly concerned,”
    but that he inferred from the fact that they called police that
    “they were concerned enough that they did call in about it.”
    Deputy Thaxton indicated that he interpreted Reporting Party
    1’s concern that Willy was “rambling on” as a worry that
    “something wasn’t completely correct with [Willy].” From
    that, Thaxton surmised—without direct statements from
    either of the reporting parties— that “[Willy] would possibly
    use [the gun] if confronted with somebody else” because
    “normal people just don’t walk around displaying firearms
    out to people when they pull up.” At the same time, Deputy
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    Thaxton confirmed “[t]here was no direct threat with a
    firearm, to my knowledge.”
    The strongest fact for the government is that Willy racked
    the slide of his gun in the presence of Reporting Party 1. In
    context, however, that fact does not demonstrate that Willy
    was acting in manner that warrants alarm. Reporting Party 1
    told Deputy Thaxton that Willy had “picked the firearm up,
    racked it, and then put it back down.” Deputy Thaxton
    testified that it was his understanding that the gun was in the
    seat of Willy’s truck, and Willy remained in his truck during
    his interactions with both reporting parties. On this record, it
    was not clearly erroneous for the district court to conclude
    that neither reporting party indicated to Deputy Thaxton that
    Willy displayed his firearm in a threatening manner.
    The dissent takes the district court’s statement—that
    “Deputy Thaxton had a particularized and objective basis for
    suspecting that Willy ‘was either armed and delusional or
    armed and seeking to possibly avenge his alleged kidnaping
    and abduction’”—out of context. Dissenting Op. at 32, 45.
    The discussion preceding and following this sentence
    supports our view. The district court stated:
    In the Court’s mind, Deputy Thaxton had
    reasonable suspicion to conduct a Terry stop.
    After speaking with the reporting persons, he
    learned that Defendant was armed and was
    trying to find the place where he had been
    kidnapped and abducted.         These facts
    provided Deputy Thaxton with a
    “particularized and objective basis” for
    suspecting that Defendant was either armed
    and delusional or armed and seeking to
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    possibly avenge his alleged kidnapping and
    abduction. Thus, Deputy Thaxton could have
    briefly detained Defendant and asked him
    questions about the two incidents in question.
    The district court found a sufficient factual basis for a
    reasonable officer to suspect that Willy might be either
    delusional or seeking to avenge his kidnapping. However,
    the court did not “posit[]” that those were the only possible
    scenarios or that suspicion that Willy might commit a crime
    in the future bears on whether he violated § 9.41.270 in his
    interactions with the reporting parties. See Dissenting Op.
    at 45. Rather, the district court found, and we agree, that
    Deputy Thaxton had reasonable suspicion to detain Willy to
    inquire further whether his unusual interactions with the
    reporting parties amounted to a criminal violation or were an
    indication that he was about to commit a crime.
    Second, § 9.41.270(1) requires more than the mere
    display of a firearm, and at the time Deputy Thaxton located
    Willy, he did not have sufficient information to reasonably
    believe that Willy had displayed his gun in a manner that
    warrants alarm. Willy’s conduct differs from violations of
    § 9.41.270 that have been upheld by the Washington courts
    such that a reasonable officer would have needed additional
    information before believing a violation of the statute had
    occurred. The type of weapon—a semi-automatic pistol—is
    the type of weapon a person might keep in their car or on
    their person for self-defense. Willy was in what Deputy
    Thaxton described as a “rural community,” where firearms
    were common. And, as the district court found, Willy did not
    point the gun at anyone or manifest an intent to harm anyone.
    Indeed, Willy told both reporting parties what he was looking
    for—a trailer—and introduced himself by name to Reporting
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    Party 2. Although Willy’s conduct, including his fantastical
    account of his kidnapping, was strange and might have
    warranted further investigation, in Washington, where it is
    presumptively lawful to possess a firearm, it did not warrant
    his immediate arrest.7
    Although the government is correct that the reports here
    indicated that Willy displayed the firearm rather than just
    carrying it, this distinction does not create enough of a
    possibility of criminal activity that Willy was subject to
    immediate arrest without further investigation. In a state in
    which carrying a firearm openly is lawful, there is very little
    room between “carrying” a firearm and “displaying” it. We
    read the Washington cases as “narrowly construing the phrase
    to apply to only conduct that poses a threat to others” as a
    means of “giv[ing] the phrase a narrow and definite focus and
    sav[ing] it from vagueness.” Maciolek, 676 P.2d at 1001 n.3.
    The threat must follow from “objective circumstances [that]
    7
    We agree with the dissent that Willy’s conduct does not fit neatly
    into either category of cases, those with clearly threatening conduct, like
    Baggett and Glenn, or those with lawful conduct, like Brown, Cardenas-
    Muratalla, or Casad. Dissenting Op. at 44–45. But we respectfully
    disagree with the dissent’s suggestion that what separates Willy’s case
    from those in which there was neither a manifestation of intent to
    intimidate or conduct that warranted alarm is “the concern that Willy was
    mentally ill or experiencing some sort of psychological disturbance.”
    Dissenting Op. at 45. Section 9.41.270 was not designed as a mechanism
    for dealing with people who have a mental disorder or who are
    experiencing a mental health crisis. Washington has extensive procedures
    for identifying and detaining persons with behavioral health disorders who
    “present[] a likelihood of serious harm,” see 
    Wash. Rev. Code §§ 71.05.150
    , .153; see generally Wash. Rev. Code ch. 71.05, including
    a six-month suspension of the right to possess a firearm for anyone
    detained for evaluation and treatment on the grounds that they present a
    likelihood of serious harm, 
    Wash. Rev. Code § 71.05.128
    .
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    would warrant alarm in a reasonable person.” Spencer,
    
    876 P.2d at 942
     (footnote omitted). If the circumstances in
    Cardenas-Muratalla, Casad, and in our decision in Brown do
    not add up to reasonable suspicion, we are hard pressed to
    conclude that the 911 calls here add up to probable cause to
    arrest.
    Finally, the government argues that the district court erred
    in its interpretation of state law by effectively requiring the
    presence of subjective harm for a violation of § 9.41.270(1).
    Although the district court found that neither of the reporting
    parties “manifested any physical characteristics associated
    with ‘alarm,’” it did not misapply the requirements of
    § 9.41.270(1). The district court accurately stated that
    § 9.41.270(1) both incorporates a reasonable person standard
    and does not require that a person’s actions actively cause
    alarm. The reporting parties’ accounts of what happened and
    their demeanor as they did so were “facts and circumstances
    within [Deputy Thaxton’s] knowledge,” and directly relevant
    to whether Deputy Thaxton had probable cause to arrest
    Willy. Valencia, 
    24 F.3d at 1108
    . The district court properly
    considered the reporting parties’ descriptions of their
    encounters with Willy, explaining that “[b]oth [witnesses]
    indicated that Defendant did not display the gun in a
    threatening manner” and “neither one indicated that
    Defendant was threatening any other persons, including his
    alleged kidnappers.” We find no error in the district court’s
    mention of the subjective reactions of the reporting parties, as
    the court properly weighed whether Willy’s conduct, as
    relayed to Deputy Thaxton, would warrant alarm in a
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    reasonable person.8 See Spencer, 
    876 P.2d at 944
     (stating that
    the court’s conclusion that the defendant’s conduct warranted
    alarm was supported by the actual alarm induced in several
    witnesses).
    The dissent makes much of the fear that whether or not
    Willy was truly abducted, he would seek to harm either his
    actual captors or innocent strangers he perceived to be part of
    his “imagined abduction.” Dissenting Op. at 45. But Deputy
    Thaxton did not purport to arrest Willy because he believed
    Willy was about to commit a battery or other violent crime
    against his alleged kidnappers, nor does the government
    advance such an argument. Deputy Thaxton arrested Willy
    because of what Willy had already done. Thaxton testified
    that at the time he arrested Willy, Willy had already violated
    § 9.41.270(1) in his interactions with Reporting Parties 1
    and 2.
    Section 9.41.270 criminalizes the act of displaying a
    firearm in a manner that warrants alarm, not displaying a
    firearm reasonably but creating a separate impression that
    you might seek to harm persons not present at some
    unspecified future time. We are not asked to decide whether
    Willy “warrant[ed] alarm for the safety of others,” we must
    8
    The government argues that the district court’s statement during the
    hearing that, if he were in Reporting Party 1’s shoes, he “would be very
    intimidated” contradicts the eventual finding that a reasonable person
    would not have been alarmed. We disagree. First, the district court’s
    written decision supercedes any statements during the hearing. See White
    v. Wash. Pub. Power Supply Sys., 
    692 F.2d 1286
    , 1289 n.1 (9th Cir. 1982)
    (“[T]he rule in this circuit is that the formal findings of fact and
    conclusions of law supersede the oral decision.”). And second, the district
    court prefaced its statement with “ I know [this is] not really the standard
    the Court needs to look at, but just bear with me for this example.”
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    ask only whether a reasonable officer would believe that
    Willy displayed his firearm “in a manner, under
    circumstances, and at a time and place that . . . warrants alarm
    for the safety of other persons.” More information was
    required to answer that question.
    We do not take lightly Deputy Thaxton’s concern that
    Willy could have been a danger to himself or others and that
    he did not want to “place [him]self in possible jeopardy” by
    approaching Willy’s vehicle to gather more information. In
    these circumstances, we fully respect that Deputy Thaxton
    had reasonable suspicion to stop Willy and make further
    inquiries. But Deputy Thaxton had a range of options short
    of arrest for inquiring whether Willy had violated or was
    about to violate § 9.41.270 or another criminal statute.
    Deputy Thaxton could have stopped Willy’s vehicle, see
    United States v. Chaudhry, 
    461 F.3d 1097
    , 1100 (9th Cir.
    2006), ordered Willy out of the vehicle, see Arizona v.
    Johnson, 
    555 U.S. 323
    , 331–32 (2009), drawn his own
    weapon, see Allen v. City of Los Angeles, 
    66 F.3d 1052
    ,
    1056–57 (9th Cir. 1995), patted Willy down for weapons, see
    United States v. Terry-Crespo, 
    356 F.3d 1170
    , 1173–77 (9th
    Cir. 2004), and even handcuffed Willy during the detention
    if he felt it was necessary for his safety, see United States v.
    Edwards, 
    761 F.3d 977
    , 981–82 (9th Cir. 2014). We thus
    agree with the dissent that Thaxton “could not afford to
    ignore [the surrounding] context, in the interest of his own
    safety, Willy’s safety, and the safety of anyone else in the
    vicinity.” Dissenting Op. at 49. But that just emphasizes
    why Thaxton should have conducted a Terry stop to see
    whether Willy posed a potential threat to Willy’s own safety,
    Thaxton’s safety, or the safety of others. Instead, Thaxton
    decided that Willy had already posed such a threat to
    Reporting Parties 1 and 2. That judgment is not supported by
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    the record. We conclude that Deputy Thaxton could not,
    consistent with Washington law and the Fourth Amendment,
    arrest Willy on the spot without further inquiry into whether
    a violation of § 9.41.270 had taken or was about to take place.
    C. Exclusionary Rule
    Under the “fruits of the poisonous tree” doctrine,
    evidence seized subsequent to a violation of the Fourth
    Amendment is tainted by the illegality and subject to
    exclusion, unless it has been sufficiently “purged of the
    primary taint.” Wong Sun v. United States, 
    371 U.S. 471
    ,
    485–88 (1963). The district court held that all evidence
    obtained and statements made after the illegal arrest were
    subject to exclusion. The government has not challenged the
    application of the “fruit of the poisonous tree” doctrine to the
    two firearms, CO2 cartridge, or Willy’s statement. Thus, we
    affirm the district court’s application of the exclusionary rule
    to suppress Willy’s statements, the altered handgun, short-
    barrel shotgun, and CO2 device as the fruits of the illegal
    arrest. See United States v. Washington, 
    490 F.3d 765
    ,
    774–77 (9th Cir. 2007); United States v. Patzer, 
    277 F.3d 1080
    , 1084–85 (9th Cir. 2002); United States v. Shephard,
    
    21 F.3d 933
    , 938–40 (9th Cir. 1994).
    IV. CONCLUSION
    We affirm the district court’s order granting the
    defendant’s motion to suppress.
    AFFIRMED.
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    CHRISTEN, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    The only question our court needs to decide is whether
    Deputy Thaxton had probable cause to suspect that Willy
    violated the second clause in RCW 9.41.270(1) by displaying
    a firearm “in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time
    and place that . . . warrants alarm for the safety of other
    persons.” Without question he did, and Deputy Thaxton
    lawfully arrested him.
    Two concerned citizens called their local sheriff’s office
    on May 12, 2019 to report their separate encounters with
    Willy, who had approached both of them near their respective
    residences that evening to ask for their help in locating the
    place where he had been held against his will by unidentified
    abductors. Willy was a stranger to the callers, and his bizarre
    tale and behavior motivated both of them to contact the
    sheriff’s office. He professed to be driving around looking
    for the place where he had been held captive for several days
    near a camouflaged trailer and van. Willy told Reporting
    Party 1 that the police had refused to help him and he made
    clear that he had armed himself and was searching for the
    camouflaged trailer and van on his own. In the course of
    explaining to the first caller that he was looking for the place
    where the alleged kidnappers held him captive, Willy picked
    up a firearm, racked the slide, and then set it back down at his
    side. Willy told the same story, and again displayed his semi-
    automatic firearm, when he stopped to talk to the second
    caller. The district court conducted an evidentiary hearing
    and found that Deputy Thaxton had a particularized and
    objective basis for suspecting that Willy “was either armed
    and delusional or armed and seeking to possibly avenge his
    alleged kidnapping and abduction.”
    UNITED STATES V. WILLY                     33
    Washington criminalizes displaying a firearm under
    circumstances that either: (1) manifest an intent to intimidate
    another; or (2) warrant alarm for the safety of other persons.
    See RCW 9.41.270(1). It is the statute’s second clause that is
    at issue here. RCW 9.41.270(1) requires us to consider the
    manner, circumstances, and time and place in which the
    weapon was displayed. I see no room for debate about
    whether Willy’s conduct objectively warranted alarm for the
    safety of others. It is uncontested that Willy displayed a
    firearm to both callers, i.e., the majority agrees he displayed
    it and was not simply carrying it. Majority Op. 5–6. And the
    surrounding circumstances support the district court’s finding
    that Deputy Thaxton had a particularized and objective basis
    for suspecting that Willy “was either armed and delusional,
    or armed and seeking to possibly avenge his alleged
    kidnapping and abduction.” No one argues that the court’s
    findings of historical fact were clearly erroneous. On this
    record, Willy’s separate violations of RCW 9.41.270(1) were
    complete when he drove away from the encounters with
    Reporting Party 1 and Reporting Party 2 (collectively, “the
    reporting witnesses”).
    Deputy Thaxton had probable cause to arrest Willy for
    violating the second clause of RCW 9.41.270(1), even though
    Willy’s actions occurred outside Deputy Thaxton’s presence,
    because the reliability of the callers’ reports was verified
    when the details they provided checked out: both reporting
    witnesses described the same green truck and said they were
    approached by a man who told the same extraordinary story,
    and the green truck’s license plate number correlated to a
    photograph of the registered owner that one of the callers
    positively identified as the person who had approached her in
    her driveway. Deputy Thaxton spotted the green truck with
    a matching license plate number that same evening,
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    approached it, and directed the driver (Willy) to exit but keep
    his hands visible. In doing so, Deputy Thaxton effectuated an
    arrest in a way that minimized the risk to Willy and to others.
    It was Deputy Thaxton’s perilous duty to arrest Willy, a man
    he had good reason to believe to be armed and mentally
    compromised, for displaying a firearm “in a manner, under
    circumstances, and at a time and place, that . . . warrants
    alarm for the safety of other persons.” See RCW 9.41.270(1).
    The majority affirms the district court’s order granting
    Willy’s motion to suppress. Because probable cause so
    clearly justified his arrest, I respectfully dissent.
    I.
    On the night of May 12, 2019 at approximately 8:37 p.m.,
    the Yakima County Sheriff’s Office received a call from
    Reporting Party 1 that a stranger driving a green Chevrolet
    truck had pulled over to speak with him outside of his home.
    Reporting Party 1 stated that the driver displayed a firearm
    and began “rambling on and not making sense about being
    previously abducted in this area and was looking for the
    place” where he had been held. As the driver of the green
    truck recounted his bizarre tale, he picked up a black semi-
    automatic gun and racked the slide before returning it to rest
    on the passenger seat of the truck. Reporting Party 1 then
    contacted the Yakima County Sheriff’s Office and relayed the
    truck’s licence plate number to dispatch. When Deputy
    Thaxton responded about twenty minutes later, he showed
    Reporting Party 1 a photo of Willy, the vehicle’s registered
    owner. Reporting Party 1 “looked at it and immediately said,
    yeah, that’s the guy that was in the truck.” As the majority
    recognizes, Reporting Party 1 “expressed concern about
    [Willy’s] mental state.” Majority Op. 5.
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    About ten minutes after meeting with this first witness,
    Deputy Thaxton responded to a call from a second, unrelated
    witness reporting a similar encounter about three miles away.
    This caller said that a man in a green truck waved her down
    as she was pulling out of her driveway. Reporting Party 2
    had never met this man before but she recalled that he
    introduced himself using a name that was something like
    “Willis.” The man told Reporting Party 2 the same story
    about being kidnapped and held in a camouflaged trailer and
    van. Like Reporting Party 1, Reporting Party 2 did not feel
    personally threatened, but Reporting Party 2 was clear that
    the man told her he was armed. Willy remained in his truck
    as he talked to the reporting witnesses, but he displayed a
    black gun and declared his intention to find the location
    where he had been held. The man drove off when Reporting
    Party 2 told him she could not help him find the camouflaged
    trailer and van.
    After following up with both reporting witnesses, Deputy
    Thaxton located the green Chevrolet truck as it turned into a
    gas station later that night. The deputy activated his
    emergency lights, pulled his vehicle behind the truck, and
    conducted a “high-risk stop” by drawing his firearm and
    ordering the truck driver to exit and keep his hands visible.
    Willy complied and Deputy Thaxton ordered him to turn
    360 degrees. As Willy was turning around, Deputy Thaxton
    observed a black semi-automatic pistol holstered on Willy’s
    right hip. Thaxton then directed Willy to place his hands
    above his head, approached him and removed the pistol from
    its holster, and seated Willy in the backseat of his patrol car.
    Thaxton noticed that the serial number had been filed off the
    black pistol and he read Willy Miranda warnings. Willy
    agreed to speak with the deputy and he told the same story
    about being kidnapped and held for several days at a location
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    with a camouflaged trailer and van. He also said that he
    eventually escaped his captors and reported that the police
    had done nothing about his abduction. Willy consented to a
    search of his truck, and Deputy Thaxton retrieved a sawed-off
    shotgun from the right rear floor bed.
    At the Yakima County jail, Willy was searched with a
    metal detector wand. A modified CO2 cartridge was
    discovered concealed in the groin area of Willy’s pants, along
    with pellets, gunpowder, and a fuse. Willy explained that
    these items comprised a non-functioning pipe bomb.
    II.
    Deputy Thaxton initially stopped Willy for unlawfully
    displaying the semi-automatic pistol during his encounters
    with the two witnesses, and the State of Washington
    ultimately charged Willy with violating its statute prohibiting
    the unlawful display of a firearm. See RCW 9.41.270(1). A
    federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Washington
    returned a three count indictment against Willy for receiving
    and possessing an improvised explosive device, in violation
    of 
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    (c); receiving and possessing an
    improvised explosive device that was not registered to him,
    in violation of 
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    (d); and making an
    improvised explosive device, in violation of 
    26 U.S.C. § 5861
    (f).
    Willy argued that Deputy Thaxton lacked probable cause
    to arrest him, and he moved to suppress the semi-automatic
    pistol, shotgun, pipe bomb, and the statements made after his
    arrest. The district court granted his motion. The court
    concluded that Willy was under arrest as soon as Deputy
    Thaxton ordered him to exit his truck because the deputy
    UNITED STATES V. WILLY                              37
    approached Willy’s truck with his firearm drawn and ordered
    Willy to exit the vehicle. In granting Willy’s motion to
    suppress, the district court concluded that Deputy Thaxton
    had reasonable suspicion to conduct an investigative stop, but
    not probable cause to effectuate an arrest without probing
    more fully the circumstances surrounding Willy’s interactions
    with the two reporting witnesses who had called the sheriff’s
    office. The district court ruled that the challenged evidence
    was the fruit of an illegal arrest and suppressed the evidence
    pursuant to the exclusionary rule.1
    In the district court and on appeal, the government relied
    on its position that Willy’s arrest was lawful because it was
    supported by probable cause. The government did not rely on
    the good faith exception,2 the inevitable discovery exception,3
    or the admonition that the exclusionary rule is intended to
    deter Fourth Amendment violations and should be applied as
    “our last resort, not our first impulse . . . applicable only . . .
    1
    Willy separately argues that his arrest violated the Fourth
    Amendment because Washington law prohibits officers from arresting
    suspects for misdemeanors committed outside their presence. See Wash.
    Rev. Code. § 10.31.100. This argument is foreclosed by our precedent.
    See Barry v. Fowler, 
    902 F.2d 770
    , 772 (9th Cir. 1990) (“The requirement
    that a misdemeanor must have occurred in the officer’s presence to justify
    a warrantless arrest is not grounded in the Fourth Amendment.”); see also
    Alford v. Haner, 
    446 F.3d 935
    , 937 n.2 (9th Cir. 2006) (citing Barry and
    holding that an arrest in violation of a Washington statute prohibiting
    arrests for misdemeanors committed outside officer’s presence did not run
    afoul of the Fourth Amendment).
    2
    See, e.g., Davis v. United States, 
    564 U.S. 229
    , 238–40 (2011).
    3
    See, e.g., Nix v. Williams, 
    467 U.S. 431
    , 444 (1984).
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    where its deterrence benefits outweigh its substantial social
    costs.”4
    III.
    Determinations of reasonable suspicion and probable
    cause are generally reviewed de novo, and the Supreme Court
    has cautioned that reviewing courts “should take care both to
    review findings of historical fact only for clear error and to
    give due weight to inferences drawn from those facts by
    resident judges and local law enforcement officers.”5 Here,
    the district court’s findings of historical fact are not disputed.
    The sticking point is whether the established facts amounted
    to probable cause to suspect that Willy had violated RCW
    9.41.270, Washington’s law prohibiting displaying a firearm
    with intent to intimidate or in a manner that warrants alarm.
    To decide whether Deputy Thaxton had probable cause to
    arrest Willy, “we examine the events leading up to the arrest,
    and then decide whether these historical facts, viewed from
    the standpoint of an objectively reasonable police officer,
    amount to ‘probable cause.’”6 Our review is de novo because
    the question here is one of law, not fact, and we are in as
    4
    Hudson v. Michigan, 
    547 U.S. 586
    , 591 (2006) (citations and
    internal quotation marks omitted); see United States v. Dreyer, 
    804 F.3d 1266
    , 1278 (9th Cir. 2015) (en banc).
    5
    Ornelas v. United States, 
    517 U.S. 690
    , 699 (1996).
    6
    District of Columbia v. Wesby, 
    138 S. Ct. 577
    , 586 (2018) (citation
    and internal quotation marks omitted).
    UNITED STATES V. WILLY                          39
    good a position as the district court to make this
    determination independently.7
    “Probable cause to arrest exists when officers have
    knowledge or reasonably trustworthy information sufficient
    to lead a person of reasonable caution to believe that an
    offense has been or is being committed by the person being
    arrested.”8 This “requires only a probability or substantial
    chance of criminal activity, not an actual showing of such
    activity.”9 The Supreme Court has repeatedly made clear that
    probable cause “is not a high bar: It requires only the kind of
    fair probability on which reasonable and prudent [people,] not
    legal technicians, act.”10
    Deputy Thaxton had probable cause to arrest Willy
    because two concerned citizens separately called the police
    dispatcher to report that Willy, a stranger to both of them,
    was driving around at approximately 8:30 in the evening
    looking for a camouflaged trailer and van where he claimed
    to have been abducted and kept for several days. Willy’s
    7
    See Ornelas, 
    517 U.S. at
    697 (citing Miller v. Fenton, 
    474 U.S. 104
    ,
    114, (1985)); see also United States v. Johnson, 
    903 F.2d 1219
    , 1221 (9th
    Cir. 1990) (“The district court’s finding of historical facts is reviewed
    under the clearly erroneous standard, but the ultimate determination of
    whether those facts amount to an unlawful seizure is a matter of law that
    we review de novo.”).
    8
    United States v. Lopez, 
    482 F.3d 1067
    , 1072 (9th Cir. 2007) (citing
    Beck v. Ohio, 
    379 U.S. 89
    , 91 (1964)).
    9
    Illinois v. Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    , 243 n.13 (1983).
    10
    Kaley v. United States, 
    571 U.S. 320
    , 338 (2014) (citations and
    internal quotation marks omitted).
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    conduct warranted alarm for the safety of others because he
    went out of his way to display his semi-automatic pistol to
    both witnesses as he explained the reason he was out
    searching for the camouflaged trailer and van. He does not
    contest that the Reporting Witness 1 described him as
    “rambling,” that he repeatedly claimed to have escaped from
    kidnappers, that he complained the police had not done
    anything to help him, that he picked up a black semi-
    automatic pistol from the seat of his truck while talking to
    both local residents, nor that he racked the gun’s slide while
    he was explaining to Reporting Party 1 that he was looking
    for the location where he had been held for several days
    against his will. Though the reporting witnesses expressed
    concern about Willy’s mental state, the majority nevertheless
    concludes that the historical facts do not amount to probable
    cause to suspect that Willy had displayed a firearm in a
    manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that
    warranted alarm for the safety of other persons. See RCW
    9.41.270(1). I strongly disagree.
    IV.
    It is presumptively lawful to openly carry a firearm in
    Washington, United States v. Brown, 
    925 F.3d 1150
    , 1154
    (9th Cir. 2019), but RCW 9.41.270 declares it a gross
    misdemeanor to “carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm
    . . . in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and
    place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or
    that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.” RCW
    9.41.270(1) (emphasis added). The majority agrees that
    Willy displayed a firearm to the witnesses, i.e., the majority
    agrees he was not merely carrying one, but the majority
    concludes that the manner, circumstances, and time and place
    did not warrant alarm for the safety of other persons.
    UNITED STATES V. WILLY                     41
    The meaning of the phrase “warrants alarm for the safety
    of other persons” in RCW 9.41.270(1) is central to this
    appeal, but whether the concerned citizens who called the
    sheriff’s office subjectively felt threatened is not. The second
    statutory clause is at issue, not the first, and Washington case
    law is clear that the objective “reasonable person” standard
    applies. See State v. Spencer, 
    876 P.2d 939
    , 942–43 (Wash.
    Ct. App. 1994). Accordingly, neither Willy’s intent, nor the
    subjective responses of the first two callers, dictates the
    outcome of Willy’s motion to suppress:
    The unlawful display statute recognizes that
    display of a weapon, without any required
    intent, could be done in a manner to cause
    reasonable apprehension, fear, or alarm.
    There is no necessary nexus between
    reasonable apprehension and the defendant’s
    actual intent. Under some circumstances,
    apprehension could be reasonable at the mere
    sight of a firearm, while the defendant’s intent
    could be completely innocent.
    State v. Byrd, 
    868 P.2d 158
    , 162 (Wash. Ct. App. 1994),
    aff’d, 
    887 P.2d 396
     (Wash. 1995) (emphasis added). “The
    statute only requires that the circumstances [w]arrant alarm
    for the safety of others. They need not actively [c]ause such
    alarm.” State v. Workman, 
    584 P.2d 382
    , 386 (Wash. 1978).
    The majority reviews Washington case law, but comes up
    short in finding support for its conclusion that Deputy
    Thaxton lacked probable cause to arrest Willy for violating
    Washington’s unlawful display statute. In State v. Maciolek,
    
    676 P.2d 996
     (Wash. 1984) and Spencer, 
    876 P.2d 939
    ,
    Washington courts considered and rejected void for
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    vagueness challenges to the statute. In the majority’s words,
    the two cases together yield only the rule that a defendant’s
    “act must warrant alarm in a reasonable person for the safety
    of others.” Majority Op. 16.
    Citing Maciolek, 676 P.2d at 999, the majority suggests
    it is incorrect to view the two clauses of RCW 9.41.270(1)
    separately. Majority Op. 16–17. Maciolek rejected the
    challenger’s vagueness argument by reasoning that the
    specific list of weapons in the first clause calls for a narrow
    construction of the second clause “to apply to only conduct
    that poses a threat to others.” See Maciolek, 676 P.2d at
    999–1001. The court decided that persons of common
    intelligence would not have to guess at the meaning of the
    statute, id. at 999, and nothing in Maciolek suggests that
    RCW 9.41.270(1)’s two clauses must be read as one. In fact,
    in State v. Baggett, another decision cited by the majority and
    decided sixteen years after Maciolek, the Washington
    appellate court affirmed the defendant’s conviction for
    “violat[ing] the second portion of RCW 9.41.270(1).”
    
    13 P.3d 659
    , 660 (Wash. Ct. App. 2000); see State v. M.T.,
    
    97 Wash. App. 1067
    , at *3 (1999) (noting that “the final
    element of this statute is stated in the disjunctive: the action
    must either manifest an intent to intimidate another or it must
    warrant alarm”).
    The majority concludes that RCW 9.41.270 is “best read
    as capturing the scenarios where someone is not directly
    threatening a person who is present, but is handling their
    firearm in such a way that it presents a danger to others.”
    Majority Op. 17. This is wrong for two reasons.
    First, we cannot re-write RCW 9.41.270(1). The
    Washington legislature criminalized conduct that warrants
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    alarm for the safety of others—not conduct that “presents a
    danger” to others. Because Willy’s words and conduct were
    a thinly veiled threat of actions he would take if he located his
    alleged abductors, it plainly warranted alarm for their safety.
    Second, the majority’s interpretation of the statute cannot
    be squared with State v. Mitchell, 
    906 P.2d 1013
     (Wash. Ct.
    App. 1995), a decision the majority cites with approval.
    Majority Op. 19. In that case, the Washington court decided
    that an officer had reasonable suspicion to stop Mitchell for
    violating RCW 9.41.270 when he personally observed
    Mitchell carrying a semi-automatic weapon in an urban,
    residential area at night. Mitchell, 
    906 P.2d 1013
    . Mitchell
    tucked the gun in his waistband when the officer passed him.
    Contrary to the majority’s interpretation of RCW 9.41.270(1),
    Mitchell was “not directly threatening a person who [was]
    present,” and there is no indication that he was handling his
    “firearm in such a way that it presents a danger to others”
    when the officer stopped him. See 
    id.
     at 1014–15. The court
    emphasized the “warrants alarm for the safety of other
    persons” portion of RCW 9.41.270(1), and held that “openly
    carrying a semi-automatic weapon while walking down a
    street in an urban, residential area at night” was sufficient to
    warrant reasonable suspicion that this statute was being
    violated. 
    Id. at 1016
    .
    Like Mitchell, Willy displayed a semi-automatic firearm
    in residential areas at night. Unlike Mitchell, Willy also
    racked the slide of his firearm, appeared mentally unstable,
    and made it known that he was actively searching for other
    persons he believed to be his abductors. The statute’s plain
    text shows the Washington’s legislature criminalized conduct
    that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that
    warrants alarm for the safety of other persons. Willy’s
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    combined actions, words, and gestures fall squarely within
    Maciolek’s construction of RCW 9.41.270(1)’s core because
    the manner and circumstances in which he displayed his
    firearm “pose[d] a threat to others” and objectively
    “warrant[ed] alarm” for their safety. See RCW 9.41.270(1);
    Maciolek, 676 P.2d at 1001 n.3.
    The other Washington cases surveyed by the majority can
    be divided into two categories. The first category includes
    cases in which the defendants displayed very obviously
    threatening conduct. For example, the defendant in Baggett
    pointed a rifle at a police officer and was charged with second
    degree assault but convicted of RCW 9.41.270 as a lesser
    included offense. 
    13 P.3d 659
    . State v. Glenn involved a
    legitimate citizen report that a driver had pointed a gun at a
    child from a vehicle—justifying the belief that the
    defendant’s suspected misconduct endangered the safety of
    the officers. 
    166 P.3d 1235
     (Wash. Ct. App. 2007).
    The second category of cases includes those in which
    defendants simply carried firearms openly, as the law in
    Washington permits, and the surrounding circumstances
    neither “manifest[ed] an intent to intimidate another,” in
    violation of RCW 9.41.270(1)’s first clause, nor “warrant[ed]
    alarm for the safety of other persons,” in violation of the
    statute’s second clause. The majority cites Brown, 
    925 F.3d 1150
    , Majority Op. 12, 21–22, 28, but that decision is a prime
    example of a case that does not aid the majority’s cause
    because it falls into the second category of cases involving
    innocuous conduct. Our court had no trouble reversing the
    district court’s denial of Brown’s motion to suppress because
    the circumstances in that case were entirely mundane, and
    gave no reason for alarm for anyone’s safety. See Brown,
    925 F.3d at 1154. The police acted on an unverified tip that
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    Brown, an African American man, was simply walking on a
    street in downtown Seattle and “had a gun.” Id. at 1152–54.
    We reasoned: “With no reliable tip, no reported criminal
    activity, no threat of harm, no suggestion that the area was
    known for high crime or narcotics, no command to stop, and
    no requirement to even speak with the police,” the officers
    did not have reasonable suspicion to stop Brown. Id. at
    1151–52.
    The circumstances in Willy’s case were vastly different
    because the reports called in to dispatch gave rise to the
    concern that Willy was mentally ill or experiencing some sort
    of psychological disturbance. Deputy Thaxton had reports
    describing Willy as “rambling on” about being abducted, and
    he very reasonably understood from the callers’ reports that
    “something wasn’t completely correct with [Willy].” On this
    record, the district court was persuaded that Deputy Thaxton
    had a particularized and objective basis for suspecting that
    Willy “was either armed and delusional or armed and seeking
    to possibly avenge his alleged kidnapping and abduction.”
    Both scenarios posited by the district court objectively
    warranted alarm for the safety of others. If Willy was armed
    and experiencing delusional thinking, it was reasonable to be
    concerned that he might falsely believe that innocent
    strangers had been complicit in his imagined abduction, and
    equally reasonable to expect that he would engage in violent
    self-help because he was under the impression that the police
    had failed him. On the other hand, if Willy had actually
    escaped from a kidnapping, believed the police were
    unwilling or unable to help him, and was seeking out the
    location where he had been held against his will, any
    reasonable person would similarly be alarmed for the safety
    of those who he thought had kidnapped him and fearful for
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    the consequences if Willy managed to find his captors—or
    anyone in a camouflaged trailer and van—that he believed to
    be the one where he had been held.
    In short, regardless of whether he had actually been
    kidnapped, the credible reports of the actions Willy took to
    show the reporting witnesses his semi-automatic pistol and to
    rack its slide as he described his abduction were either
    threatening gestures themselves, or intended to convey the
    message to the reporting witnesses that the weapon was
    loaded and ready for use once he located the camouflaged
    trailer and van.11 These circumstances easily support Deputy
    Thaxton’s conclusion that Willy had violated RCW 9.41.270
    by the time he left the reporting witnesses, i.e., Willy’s
    actions and words objectively gave rise to concern for the
    safety of others.
    Willy and the majority make much of the fact that the
    witnesses indicated they did not feel personally threatened,
    but the statute’s text and Washington case law are in accord
    that the callers need not have felt subjectively threatened in
    order for Willy’s conduct to objectively “warrant[] alarm for
    the safety of other persons.” See RCW 9.41.270(1);
    Workman, 584 P.2d at 385–86. The statute is judged from an
    11
    See generally What Should America Do About Gun Violence?:
    Hearing Before the S. Comm. on the Judiciary, 113th Cong. (2013)
    (written testimony of David B. Kopel, Research Director,
    Independence Institute) (citation omitted), available at
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/1-30-13KopelTestimo
    ny.pdf (“If the final round from the last magazine has been fired, the first
    round from the new magazine must be chambered before the gun will fire.
    Chambering a round involves ‘racking’ the gun by manually operating the
    gun’s slide mechanism, a process that typically takes fractions of a
    second.”).
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    objective, reasonable person standard, but Washington courts
    sometimes consider witness perceptions to decide whether a
    defendant’s actions gave objective cause for alarm. See, e.g.,
    Spencer, 
    876 P.2d at 944
     (“[O]ur conclusion that [the
    defendant’s] conduct warranted alarm is supported by the
    kinds of people who were alarmed in this case, including
    several firefighters, a police officer, and a passing motorist.”).
    In Willy’s case, the district court notably expressed that
    even it would have been alarmed by Willy’s actions: “If I was
    Reporting Party No. 1 and a person showed up and spoke like
    this and showed me his gun and racked it, I would be very
    intimidated.” Although the court acknowledged “that’s not
    really the standard the Court needs to look at,” in the words
    of the Washington Supreme Court, the “conclusion that
    [Willy’s] conduct warranted alarm is supported by the kinds
    of people who were alarmed in this case,” see 
    id.,
     i.e., a
    federal district court judge and a deputy sheriff. The district
    court’s own reaction was strong support for the conclusion
    that Willy’s actions objectively warranted alarm.
    Willy’s violations of RCW 9.41.270 were committed
    outside Deputy Thaxton’s presence, but this does not change
    the fact that Deputy Thaxton had probable cause to arrest
    Willy, because the reports he received from dispatch were
    consistent and strongly corroborated when Deputy Thaxton
    followed up with the reporting witnesses. Both of the
    reporting witnesses who contacted the Yakima County’s
    Sheriff’s Office reported being approached by Willy and they
    described the same troubling behavior, bizarre story, and
    rambling countenance.
    Though the reporting witnesses were separated temporally
    and geographically, both described the same stranger in a
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    green truck driving up to their homes after 8:30 p.m. Both
    expressed concern for Willy’s mental state. Both described
    his story about being kidnapped, held for several days, and
    escaping. Both said that he was looking for the camouflaged
    trailer and van where he had been held, that he complained
    the police did nothing to help him, and that he gratuitously
    picked up a gun in the course of telling his story. The first
    caller described Willy racking the gun while explaining that
    he was looking for his abductors. The truck’s license plate
    correlated to a photo of the registered owner that the first
    caller readily identified, and neither witness asked to remain
    anonymous. These reports had all of the indicia of
    “veracity,” “reliability,” and the solid “basis of knowledge”
    that the Supreme Court has instructed “are all highly relevant
    in determining the value of [a witness’s] report . . . . [and]
    that may usefully illuminate the commonsense, practical
    question whether there is probable cause.” See Gates,
    
    462 U.S. at 230
    . It was not necessary for Deputy Thaxton to
    obtain additional corroborating information to establish
    probable cause. Common sense answered that practical
    question and, as our nation has learned after enduring a tragic
    number of shootings perpetrated by mentally ill assailants,
    delay may have turned a dangerous situation into a deadly
    one.
    Despite its acknowledgment that Willy displayed his
    firearm to the reporting witnesses, the majority decides “it
    was not clearly erroneous for the district court to conclude
    that neither reporting party indicated to Deputy Thaxton that
    Willy displayed his firearm in a threatening manner.”
    Majority Op. 25. But this answers the wrong question. The
    second clause of RCW 9.41.270(1) requires that we ask
    whether Willy’s actions objectively warranted alarm for the
    safety of others. We must consider the surrounding
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    circumstances when we answer that question. See RCW
    9.41.270(1); Spencer, 
    876 P.2d at
    942 n.4. The majority
    never grapples with the fact that Deputy Thaxton had good
    reason to fear that Willy was mentally ill, and the significance
    of that fact cannot be overstated. The majority decides that
    Willy’s chilling act of racking the gun while looking for the
    spot where likely imaginary abductors had held him captive
    is “[t]he strongest fact for the government,” but it considers
    that fact in isolation and pivots, in its very next breath, to the
    conclusion that the first clause of the statute was not violated:
    “In context, . . . that fact does not demonstrate that Willy was
    acting in a manner that warrants alarm.” Majority Op. 25.
    But the surrounding context is precisely what established
    that Willy violated the second clause of the statute because
    the circumstances included compelling reasons to be
    concerned for the safety of others. Deputy Thaxton could not
    afford to ignore that context, in the interest of his own safety,
    Willy’s safety, and the safety of anyone else in the vicinity.
    Our court should not ignore that context either, because RCW
    9.41.270(1) dictates that the manner, circumstances, and time
    and place must be considered. Here, Willy’s manner of
    displaying a firearm included recitation of a fantastical and
    rambling tale of abduction. The time and place in which he
    displayed it was during his nighttime search for the location
    of the camouflage trailer and van in a residential area.
    Willy’s approach of the reporting witnesses at their homes,
    his insistence that the police had not helped him, and the fact
    that he had armed himself to search for his abductors on his
    own must also be considered.
    Respectfully, under these circumstances the court is
    remiss in failing to recognize that Willy’s very peculiar
    conduct objectively warranted alarm for the safety of others.
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    The majority’s 20/20 hindsight observation that the deputy
    had a “range of options short of arrest,” Majority Op. 30, or
    that he might have opted to take the time necessary to explore
    the possibility of obtaining a mental health commitment, see
    Majority Op. 27 n.7, might make sense when applied to a
    person who had merely displayed a firearm while stopping to
    chat or to ask for directions. But given the overall
    circumstances relayed in the callers’ verified reports, Deputy
    Thaxton did not have a duty to put his own safety at even
    greater risk by frisking Willy rather than conducting a high
    risk stop and arresting him. See generally Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 23 (1968) (“Certainly it would be unreasonable to
    require that police officers take unnecessary risks in the
    performance of their duties.”); Washington v. Lambert,
    
    98 F.3d 1181
    , 1186 (9th Cir. 1996) (“[T]hose who serve the
    public by taking on the dangerous job of enforcing the
    criminal laws are not required by the Fourth Amendment to
    take unreasonable risks.”). In the end, the majority concedes
    that “we must ask only whether a reasonable officer would
    believe that Willy displayed his firearm ‘in a manner, under
    circumstances, and at a time and place that . . . warrants alarm
    for the safety of other persons.’” Majority Op. 29–30.
    Deputy Thaxton needed no more information to answer that
    question, and he was free to arrest Willy.
    Because Deputy Thaxton plainly had probable cause to
    believe that Willy had violated RCW 9.41.270 before
    approaching him at the gas station, the district court erred. I
    would reverse the district court’s order granting Willy’s
    motion to suppress.