Zayn Al-Abidin Husayn v. United States ( 2020 )


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  •                     FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    ZAYN AL-ABIDIN MUHAMMAD                         No. 18-35218
    HUSAYN; JOSEPH MARGULIES,
    Petitioners-Appellants,               D.C. No.
    2:17-cv-00171-
    v.                              JLQ
    JAMES ELMER MITCHELL; JOHN
    JESSEN,                                            ORDER
    Respondents,
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Intervenor-Appellee.
    Filed July 20, 2020
    Before: Ronald M. Gould and Richard A. Paez, Circuit
    Judges, and Dean D. Pregerson, * District Judge.
    Order;
    Concurrence by Judge Paez;
    Dissent by Judge Bress
    *
    The Honorable Dean D. Pregerson, United States District Judge
    for the Central District of California, sitting by designation.
    2                  HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    SUMMARY **
    State Secrets Privilege / Subpoena
    The panel denied a petition for rehearing en banc on
    behalf of the court.
    In its opinion, filed September 18, 2019, the panel
    majority reversed the district court’s order quashing a
    subpoena sought by Abu Zubaydah, who is currently held at
    the U.S. detention facility in the Guantanamo Bay Naval
    Base in Cuba, and his attorney, and dismissing the case in its
    entirety. The panel agreed with the district court that certain
    information requested was not privileged because it was not
    a state secret that would pose an exceptionally grave risk to
    national security. The panel agreed that the government’s
    assertion of the state secrets privilege was valid over much
    of the information requested. The panel concluded,
    however, that the district court erred in quashing the
    subpoenas in toto rather than attempting to disentangle
    nonprivileged from privileged information. The panel
    remanded for further proceedings.
    Judge Gould dissented and would affirm the district
    court. He would defer to the view of then-CIA Director and
    current Secretary of State Michael Pompeo that the
    disclosure of secret information in this proceeding
    “reasonably could be expected to cause serious, and in many
    instances, exceptionally grave damage to U.S. national
    security.”
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It
    has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                     3
    Concurring in the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge
    Paez wrote to explain why rehearing was not warranted. He
    wrote that the majority opinion stood solely for the narrow
    and well-settled proposition that before a court dismissed a
    case on state secret grounds, it must follow the three-step
    framework set forth in United States v. Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. 1
    (1953). Judge Paez wrote that rather than let the matter
    proceed on remand before the district court, the dissenting
    opinion from the denial of rehearing en banc sought to
    eliminate the required analysis, without providing any
    factual or legal basis for doing so. Judge Paez wrote further
    that the dissent mischaracterized the district court
    proceedings and the majority opinion’s holding, and
    disregarded the law of the circuit. He concluded that en banc
    review was inappropriate.
    Dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge
    Bress stated that he believed the majority’s decision was
    premised on grave legal errors, conflicted with governing
    precedent, and posed a serious risk to national security.
    Judge Bress wrote that the majority opinion erred because:
    it treated information that was core state secrets materials as
    fair game in discovery; it vitiated the state secrets privilege
    because of information that was supposedly in the public
    domain; it failed to give deference to the CIA Director on
    matters uniquely within his national security expertise; and
    it discounted the government’s valid national security
    concerns because the discovery was only sought against
    government contractors.
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    COUNSEL
    David F. Klein (argued) and John Chamberlain, Pillsbury
    Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, Washington, D.C.; Jerry
    Moberg, Jerry Moberg & Associates, Ephrata, Washington;
    for Petitioners-Appellants.
    H. Thomas Byron III (argued) and Sharon Swingle,
    Appellate Staff; William D. Hyslop, United States Attorney;
    Joseph H. Hunt, Assistant Attorney General; Civil Division,
    United States Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.; for
    Intervenor-Appellee.
    ORDER
    The full court was advised of the petition for rehearing
    en banc. A judge requested a vote on whether to rehear the
    matter en banc. The matter failed to receive a majority of
    the votes of the non-recused active judges in favor of en banc
    consideration. 1 Fed R. App. P. 35. The petition for
    rehearing en banc is denied.
    Attached are a concurrence to and dissent from the denial
    of rehearing en banc.
    1
    Judges Miller and Collins did not participate in the deliberations
    or vote in this case.
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    PAEZ, Circuit Judge, joined by FLETCHER and BERZON,
    Circuit Judges, concurring in the denial of rehearing en banc:
    I concur in the decision not to rehear this case en banc
    and write to emphasize why rehearing was not warranted.
    I.
    I begin with what the majority opinion does not do. It
    does not require the government to disclose information, and
    it certainly does not require the disclosure of state secrets.
    See Husayn v. Mitchell, 
    938 F.3d 1123
    , 1137–38 (9th Cir.
    2019). It does not compel the government to confirm or even
    acknowledge any alleged malfeasance abroad. See 
    id. at 1133
    , 1135 n.18. And, critically, it does not direct the
    district court to compel discovery on remand if the court
    determines that nonprivileged materials cannot be
    disentangled from privileged materials. See 
    id.
     at 1137–38.
    Instead, the majority opinion stands solely for the narrow
    and well-settled proposition that before a court dismisses a
    case on state secret grounds, it must follow the three-step
    framework set forth in Reynolds—a procedure we have
    followed for decades and reaffirmed as recently as 2010. See
    Mohamed v. Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc., 
    614 F.3d 1070
    , 1080
    (9th Cir. 2010) (en banc); see also Husayn, 938 F.3d
    at 1136–37. The district court never conducted the third step
    of that process, which requires a court to determine whether
    the contested materials contain nonprivileged information
    and, if so, whether there is any feasible way to segregate the
    nonprivileged information from the privileged information.
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082. Only after exhausting this
    effort can a district court contemplate dismissal. Id. The
    district court, however, never undertook that process. It
    instead dismissed Petitioners’ discovery application
    outright, without ever “us[ing] its fact-finding or other tools
    6                 HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    to full advantage before . . . conclud[ing] that [this] rare step
    . . . [was] justified.” Id. at 1093. We thus remanded with a
    simple instruction: use the panoply of tools at the court’s
    disposal to identify nonprivileged information and
    determine whether that information can be disclosed without
    risking national security, as our precedent requires. Husayn,
    938 F.3d at 1137–38.
    It may be that, on remand, the district court will
    ultimately reach the same result and determine that the
    government’s motion to quash should be granted and that the
    proceeding must end. But rather than let the matter proceed
    as it should under our precedent, Judge Bress’s dissent seeks
    to eliminate the required analysis, without providing any
    factual or legal basis for doing so.            The dissent
    mischaracterizes the district court proceedings and the
    majority opinion’s holding. It also disregards the law of this
    circuit. For those reasons, en banc review is inappropriate.
    II.
    This matter began with Petitioners’ application for
    discovery under 
    28 U.S.C. § 1782
    , which authorizes district
    courts to assist litigants in foreign tribunals in obtaining
    discovery. 1 The district court applied the relevant factors
    under Intel Corp. v. Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., 
    542 U.S. 241
    , 244–45 (2004), 2 considered the government’s
    1
    Because the majority opinion lays out the relevant facts and
    procedures, there is no need to repeat them in full here.
    2
    A court considering whether to grant a § 1782 request may
    consider “the nature of the foreign tribunal”; “the character of the
    proceedings underway abroad and the receptivity of the foreign
    government to U.S. federal-court assistance”; “the receptivity of the
    foreign government, court, or agency to federal-court judicial
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                             7
    opposition to Petitioners’ application, and granted the
    application for discovery. The government did not appeal
    the district court’s § 1782 ruling.
    The government later moved to quash the resulting
    subpoenas for depositions and documents. It first argued the
    district court lacked jurisdiction under 
    28 U.S.C. § 2241
    (e)(2), which deprives courts of jurisdiction over
    actions against the “United States or its agents” for the
    confinement of alien enemy combatants. 
    28 U.S.C. § 2241
    (e)(2); see also Hamad v. Gates, 
    732 F.3d 990
    , 995
    (9th Cir. 2013). The district court rejected that argument,
    concluding that there was no evidence of an agency
    relationship between the government and James Elmer
    Mitchell and John Jessen. The government did not appeal
    this determination.
    The government also argued that the information was
    privileged as a state secret under Reynolds. The district court
    ostensibly applied the Reynolds framework, which sets forth
    a three-step inquiry to analyze claims of state secrets
    privilege. At the second step, the court concluded that some,
    but not all, of the information sought by Petitioners was
    privileged. Although our caselaw requires that non-sensitive
    information be disentangled from privileged material and
    disclosed “whenever possible,” Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082,
    the district court did not follow this precedent, and it did not
    make any attempt to disentangle the non-sensitive
    information. Instead, the court quashed the subpoenas and
    dismissed the petition in its entirety without conducting the
    assistance”; “whether the . . . request conceals an attempt to circumvent
    foreign proof-gathering limits or other policies of a foreign country or
    the United States”; and whether the request is “unduly intrusive or
    burdensome.” Intel Corp., 
    542 U.S. at
    264–65.
    8                HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    required analysis, speculating that any nonprivileged
    information “would not seem to aid the [foreign]
    investigation.”
    III.
    As stated above, the majority opinion does not require
    the disclosure of information. It does not require the court
    to reach any specific conclusion about whether dismissal is
    warranted. It simply reemphasizes our requirement to
    conduct a proper, three-step Reynolds analysis in the first
    instance. The district court has not yet done so, having
    dismissed the entire matter without using any discovery tools
    at its disposal. Our decision in Mohamed is clear: “[I]t is the
    district court’s role to use its fact-finding and other tools to
    full advantage before it concludes that the rare step of
    dismissal is justified.” 614 F.3d at 1092–93. Accordingly,
    the majority opinion instructs the district court to “employ[]”
    those tools to “tailor[] the scope of Mitchell’s and Jessen’s
    deposition and the documents they may be required to
    produce.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1137. The majority opinion
    recognized that, even after doing so, the district court may
    still determine dismissal is appropriate: “[I]f, upon
    reviewing disputed discovery and meaningfully engaging
    the panoply of tools at its disposal, the district court
    determines that it is not possible to disentangle the privileged
    from nonprivileged, it may again conclude that dismissal is
    appropriate at step three of the Reynolds analysis.” Id.
    IV.
    Judge Bress’s dissent appears to raise three distinct
    arguments: (1) the majority opinion erred in holding that
    Abu Zubaydah’s detention at a CIA black site in Poland is
    not a state secret, despite widespread acknowledgment of
    this fact; (2) the majority opinion did not sufficiently defer
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                                9
    to former CIA Director Michael Pompeo’s assertion that any
    disclosures sought by Petitioners pose national security
    risks, even though a court has never independently reviewed
    the disclosures to confirm this representation; and (3) our
    instruction to attempt to disentangle privileged and
    nonprivileged information is an “impossible task” for district
    courts to undertake, even though our precedent requires it,
    and even though we did so in Mohamed.
    To begin, the dissent characterizes the majority as
    disregarding the danger certain information poses to national
    security. The majority opinion does no such thing, and this
    argument is a red herring.            The majority opinion
    acknowledges that some facts can be embarrassing to the
    government. 938 F.3d at 1134. The purpose of the state
    secrets privilege, however, is not to insulate the government
    from criticism: the fundamental threshold question is
    whether certain facts are secrets. Only then can the privilege
    possibly apply. 3
    The dissent’s haphazard citations to Mohamed do not
    support the argument that the facts the Petitioners are
    seeking to discover, despite being public knowledge, are
    sufficiently “secret” to warrant application of the privilege.
    Dissent at 29–31. Indeed, in Mohamed, the en banc court,
    after “thoroughly and critically review[ing] the
    government’s public and classified declarations,” concluded
    “that at least some of the matters” that the government
    sought to protect were privileged, 614 F.3d at 1086, but
    publicly available information was not, id. at 1090. The
    dissent’s citations to Mohamed are drawn not from the
    3
    Besides, “[s]imply . . . invoking an ethereal fear that disclosure will
    threaten our nation is insufficient to support the privilege.” Al-Haramain
    Islamic Found. v. Bush, 
    507 F.3d 1190
    , 1203 (9th Cir. 2007).
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    court’s Step 2 discussion of whether any of the information
    sought was subject to the state secrets privilege, but rather
    from the discussion of Step 3 of the Reynolds analysis, i.e.,
    whether the case could proceed without implicating
    privileged material. See Dissent at 29–31 (citing Mohamed,
    614 F.3d at 1089–90). Mohamed recognized that even
    though publicly available information was not privileged,
    any effort to defend against the plaintiffs’ case “would
    unjustifiably risk disclosure of state secrets.” 614 F.3d
    at 1090. This is the precise analysis that has never been
    conducted by any court in this case—the analysis that the
    majority opinion instructed the district court to conduct on
    remand. 4
    More troubling is the dissent’s seemingly willful
    blindness to established facts. Given the overwhelming,
    publicly available evidence that Abu Zubaydah was detained
    at a black site in Poland, it is difficult to take seriously the
    suggestion that media outlets are untrustworthy and that the
    standards applied by other judicial bodies are inadequate.
    Good grief, the President of Poland publicly acknowledged
    in 2012 that, during his presidency, Abu Zubaydah was
    detained in Poland by the CIA. 5 As the majority opinion
    4
    Mohamed’s “observation” that certain undisclosed details about a
    publicly known project may themselves qualify as secrets is not
    controversial, and it certainly does not stand for the proposition that any
    as-yet undisclosed information is privileged as a matter of course. See
    614 F.3d at 1089–90.
    5
    See, e.g., Case of Husayn (Abu Zubaydah) v. Poland, Section
    VI(D)(3), European Ct. of Human Rights (Feb. 16, 2015) (“Of course,
    everything took place with my knowledge. The President and the Prime
    Minister agreed to the intelligence co-operation with the Americans,
    because this was what was required by national interest.”), available at:
    https://tinyurl.com/ybs7wane; “The hidden history of the CIA’s prison
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                         11
    recognizes, to be “a ‘state secret,’ a fact must first be a
    secret.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1133. Although it is not the
    court’s role to compel the government to recognize these
    facts officially, it need not stand in thrall, in blithe disregard
    of the record and what the rest of the world has already
    acknowledged. The majority opinion does not require the
    government to take an official position on anything and
    agrees with the government’s assertion of state secrets over
    other sensitive categories of information. Id. (“Nothing in
    this opinion should be read to suggest [that the government
    has taken any official position on the existence or location of
    such a facility].”); id. at 1135 n.18 (“[N]othing about the
    government’s participation in this case would constitute
    official acknowledgment, implicit or otherwise.”); id.
    at 1134 (listing categories of privileged information).
    The dissent nonetheless takes up the government’s
    belatedly raised argument, never presented to the panel, that
    any participation by Mitchell and Jessen would be
    tantamount to an official acknowledgment of certain facts.
    As an initial matter, the government’s argument, to the
    extent it is grounded in an agency relationship, was
    presented to, and rejected by, the district court. Again, the
    government did not appeal that determination.
    In any event, the dissent reads the majority opinion’s
    treatment of Mitchell and Jessen as contractors far too
    broadly. The dissent asserts that no court “has held the state
    secrets privilege is removed or diminished when the
    discovery is directed to a government contractor,” and warns
    in Poland,” WASHINGTON POST (Jan. 23, 2014), available at:
    https://tinyurl.com/ybowwp8p; “Inside the CIA’s Secret Polish Torture
    Site,” THE ATLANTIC (Jan. 24, 2014), available at:
    https://tinyurl.com/y98n7x86.
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    that a “contrary rule” would free litigants from the
    constraints of the privilege against the disclosure of state
    secrets. Dissent at 32. The majority opinion does not say
    otherwise. It does not hold or suggest that the nature of a
    secret is lessened if transmitted to or by a contractor. It states
    only that the government failed to explain why discovery by
    Mitchell or Jessen would amount to an official confirmation.
    Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1133.              Most importantly, the
    government can still argue on remand that it should not
    disclose any information from Mitchell and Jessen that
    would amount to an official confirmation.
    And, contrary to the dissent’s assertion, Mohamed did
    not “[hold] that the state secrets privilege applied in a suit
    against a government contractor because the contractor
    could ‘reveal[] information about how the United States
    government does or does not conduct covert operations.’”
    Dissent at 32 (quoting Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1089)
    (emphasis added). Rather, we discussed the potential effects
    of a contractor’s testimony in the context of Reynolds Step
    3—not Step 2. See Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1089. Our
    discussion had nothing to do with whether the privilege
    applied to the contractor’s statements at Step 2, let alone
    whether the contractor’s statements could be imputed to the
    government.
    Notably absent from the government’s petition for
    rehearing en banc and the dissent is any mention of the Salim
    litigation, 6 in which the same respondents, Mitchell and
    Jessen, disclosed similar information to that sought here,
    with the government’s full participation in the discovery
    process. In fact, in that litigation, eight U.S. government
    attorneys or experts were present at the depositions of
    6
    Salim v. Mitchell, No. 2:15-cv-286-JLQ (E.D. Wash. 2016).
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    13
    Mitchell and Jessen to ensure that nothing confidential or
    privileged would be disclosed. Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1137
    n.23. As the majority opinion recognizes, the fact that
    Mitchell and Jessen have provided nonprivileged
    information like that sought here illustrates that
    disentanglement is viable. Id. at 1137.
    Last, a word about deference. Rather than focus on “our
    obligation to review the [government’s claims] with a very
    careful, indeed a skeptical, eye,” see Mohamed, 614 F.3d
    at 1082, the dissent urges we owe “some level of deference,”
    Dissent at 27. As an initial matter, the majority opinion did
    give “some deference” to the government and did not dispute
    that official acknowledgment of certain facts might harm
    national security. The dissent, however, asks for a level of
    deference that is nothing short of unquestioning. The mere
    existence of information, absent any indication that it has
    been recognized by the United States government, is not an
    acknowledgment by the United States of anything. The
    majority opinion is clear on this point. Husayn, 938 F.3d
    at 1133.
    The dissent urges deference not only to the government’s
    assertion that official acknowledgment would be harmful,
    but also to the government’s expansive definition of “official
    acknowledgment” itself. Indeed, the government takes the
    argument a step further, contending that Mitchell’s and
    Jessen’s actual relationship to the government is irrelevant
    because foreign governments might perceive their
    participation as official U.S. acknowledgment of the facts to
    which Mitchell and Jessen testify. Gov’t Pet. for Reh’g En
    Banc at 12. This contention lays bare the philosophy
    underpinning the position advocated by the government and
    the dissent. It does not matter whether Mitchell and Jessen
    speak for the government, or indeed whether the government
    14                  HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    “officially” acknowledges anything. All that matters is that
    the government says it matters. Under the dissent’s
    approach, courts are left with nothing to do but accept the
    government’s assertions at face value. Such an approach,
    besides contradicting Supreme Court precedent, is
    antithetical to democratic governance and will inevitably
    breed abuse and misconduct.
    Although the majority opinion holds only that the district
    court failed to conduct a proper Reynolds Step 3 analysis, the
    dissent does not discuss Step 3 until page 33. The dissent
    asserts that it would be an “impossible task” to disentangle
    classified information from nonprivileged material, and that
    dismissal is therefore appropriate. Dissent at 35. But we
    have conducted this analysis often, without difficulty. See,
    e.g., Kasza v. Browner, 
    133 F.3d 1159
    , 1166, 1170 (9th Cir.
    1998); Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1095; Al-Haramain, 
    507 F.3d at 1203
    . Unlike the en banc court in Mohamed, where we
    reviewed the contested material and then determined that
    disentanglement was not feasible, see 614 F.3d at 1087–89,
    the district court has yet to undertake this full Step 3 analysis.
    The district court, without using a single tool at its disposal,
    such as in camera review, protective orders, or restrictions
    on testimony, summarily determined that any nonprivileged
    information that might be disclosed could not be
    disentangled from privileged information and therefore
    dismissed the discovery application. 7
    For similar reasons, the dissent’s references to other
    cases we have decided are simply inapt in this context. As
    7
    As discussed above, the district court also inserted a “usefulness”
    requirement of its own design into the Reynolds Step 3 analysis and
    dismissed the entire matter because any non-privileged information
    “would not seem to aid the Polish investigation.”
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                             15
    the majority opinion explains, those cases determined that
    nonprivileged information was enmeshed in a “classified
    mosaic,” but only after reviewing specific, contested
    material and considering the role of that material in drawn-
    out litigation. Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1135 n.19 (citing Kasza,
    
    133 F.3d at 1166
    ; Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1095; Al-
    Haramain, 
    507 F.3d at 1203
    ). Here, however, the court is
    presented with a pure discovery matter—unencumbered by
    the “inherently complex and unpredictable” nature of typical
    adversarial litigation. See Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1089.
    More importantly, however, and as discussed above, no
    material has yet been disclosed, let alone reviewed. 8
    8
    The dissent insists that “[in camera] review is not necessary to
    enforce the privilege,” but this point is irrelevant for two reasons.
    Dissent at 36. First, Reynolds did not prohibit in camera review
    altogether. See 
    345 U.S. at 10
     (refusing only to impose an “automatic[]”
    disclosure requirement under certain circumstances). Other courts,
    including ones cited by the dissent, recognize that in camera review may
    not only be appropriate but required. Doe v. CIA, 
    576 F.3d 95
    , 105 (2d
    Cir. 2009) (“Sometimes, however, review may require examination of
    the classified material itself.”); Sterling v. Tenet, 
    416 F.3d 338
    , 345 (4th
    Cir. 2005) (“There may of course be cases where the necessity for
    evidence is sufficiently strong and the danger to national security
    sufficiently unclear that in camera review of all materials is required to
    evaluate the claim of privilege.”). In any event, these limitations on in
    camera review, if they exist, come at Reynolds Step 2—not Step 3. See
    Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. at 10
     (“Yet we will not go so far as to say that the
    court may automatically require a complete disclosure to the judge
    before the claim of privilege will be accepted in any case.”) (emphasis
    added); Doe, 
    576 F.3d at
    104–05; Sterling, 
    416 F.3d at 344
    . Here, the
    majority opinion agreed with the district court’s assessment that at least
    some of the information Petitioners sought was not a state secret.
    Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1134. Thus, we simply reminded the district court
    that, during its attempt at disentanglement, it could use many tools at its
    disposal, including in camera review, to conduct a full Reynolds Step 3
    analysis. Id. at 1137–38.
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    Finally, the majority anticipates that in some
    circumstances it may indeed be impossible to disentangle
    nonprivileged information from privileged material. The
    opinion states that the district court may, after fulfilling its
    role in the discovery process, so conclude. But the
    possibility that disentanglement will not be feasible does not
    justify the failure to make the attempt. Our precedent
    requires the district court to make every effort at
    disentanglement. Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082.
    The dissent concludes with an entreaty to overhaul
    seventy years of precedent and kneecap Reynolds to limit its
    application in section 1782 proceedings. Dissent at 35–37.
    This proposal, which not even the government advocates, is
    not only extreme; it is unnecessary. The overwrought
    concerns about abuse by foreign litigants are addressed by
    section 1782 and the Intel factors. See Intel, 
    542 U.S. at 265
    (“[A] district court could consider whether the § 1782(a)
    request conceals an attempt to circumvent foreign proof-
    gathering restrictions or other policies of a foreign country
    or the United States. Also, unduly intrusive or burdensome
    requests may be rejected or trimmed.”). It appears the
    dissent’s true problem is not with Reynolds, but with the
    district court’s initial decision to grant Petitioners’ section
    1782 application. The government appears to share that
    distaste. It could have appealed, but it did not. En banc
    proceedings would not have been the appropriate remedy for
    that error.
    For these reasons, I concur in the court’s decision to deny
    rehearing this case en banc.
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    BRESS, Circuit Judge, joined by GOULD, CALLAHAN,
    M. SMITH, IKUTA, BENNETT, R. NELSON, BADE,
    LEE, HUNSAKER, BUMATAY, and VANDYKE, Circuit
    Judges, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc:
    Over formal objections from the Director of the CIA, a
    divided panel in this case rejected the United States’
    assertion of the state secrets privilege, potentially allowing
    discovery into the CIA’s overseas interrogation of a
    suspected terrorist. The panel issued this ruling in the
    context of a discovery application under 
    28 U.S.C. § 1782
    ,
    enabling any resulting documents and testimony to be used
    in a foreign tribunal—here, a quasi-criminal proceeding in
    Poland over which we lack any visibility and whose entire
    purpose is to expose U.S.-led counterintelligence operations
    conducted abroad.
    The majority’s decision is premised on grave legal
    errors, conflicts with governing precedent, and poses a
    serious risk to our national security. I therefore respectfully
    dissent from our decision not to hear this important case en
    banc.
    I
    A
    Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn (“Abu Zubaydah”)
    is a suspected Al Qaeda-associated terrorist. See Ali v.
    Obama, 
    736 F.3d 542
    , 543 (D.C. Cir. 2013) (Kavanaugh, J.).
    He was captured in Pakistan in 2002 and detained by the CIA
    as part of its former detention and interrogation program;
    since 2006, the Department of Defense has held him at
    Guantanamo Bay. Prior to his transfer there, Abu Zubaydah
    claims he was tortured at a CIA “black site,” which he
    alleges was located in Poland.
    18              HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    In 2013, Abu Zubaydah’s attorneys filed an application
    in the European Court of Human Rights (“ECHR”), alleging
    that Polish officials had been complicit in his unlawful
    detention and mistreatment. See Husayn (Abu Zubaydah) v.
    Poland, App. No. 7511/13, Eur. Ct. H.R. (2015). The Polish
    government declined to confirm or deny these claims but
    informed the ECHR that it had previously opened an
    investigation in 2008 into allegations that Polish officials
    had cooperated with the CIA. 
    Id.
     ¶¶ 125–35, 370–71. As
    part of that investigation, Poland had requested information
    from the United States under a mutual legal assistance treaty
    (“MLAT”) between the two countries. Id. ¶ 132. Citing
    reasons of national security, the United States repeatedly
    refused to provide information on the CIA’s operations. Id.
    ¶¶ 132, 143.
    Based in part on the negative inferences it drew from
    Poland’s refusal to confirm or deny CIA operations within
    its borders, the ECHR determined that the CIA had tortured
    Abu Zubaydah with the complicity of the Polish
    government. Id. ¶¶ 370–71, 395–96, 414–15, 431–35. As a
    result, Poland renewed its inquiry, which Abu Zubaydah
    represents is a “Polish criminal investigation” that “is
    charged with examining whether Polish officials violated
    domestic law by opening, operating, and conspiring with the
    United States to detain and mistreat prisoners, including Abu
    Zubaydah,” at a U.S.-run CIA facility in Poland. To aid its
    investigation, Poland again requested assistance under its
    MLAT with the United States. The United States again
    refused to surrender details concerning the CIA’s
    activities—even after discussions between high-level
    officials from both governments. The Polish prosecutor’s
    office then turned to Abu Zubaydah’s counsel to identify
    alternative ways to obtain the information, in this case
    through United States courts.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    19
    In May 2017, Abu Zubaydah and his attorney filed an
    application in federal district court under 
    28 U.S.C. § 1782
    ,
    seeking discovery related to the CIA’s covert activities in
    Poland. Section 1782 permits a district court to order
    discovery “for use in a proceeding in a foreign or
    international tribunal, including criminal investigations.”
    
    28 U.S.C. § 1782
    (a). Abu Zubaydah’s application sought
    documents and testimony from Dr. James Elmer Mitchell
    and Dr. John “Bruce” Jessen, two former CIA contractors
    who “proposed and developed” the CIA’s enhanced
    interrogation techniques, “supervise[d]” Abu Zubaydah’s
    interrogations, and were “involve[d] in” his alleged torture.
    Husayn v. Mitchell, 
    938 F.3d 1123
    , 1127 (9th Cir. 2019).
    Abu Zubaydah’s § 1782 application was expansive,
    seeking a broad range of information relating to “the crimes
    committed against Abu Zubaydah on Polish soil,” the
    involvement of Polish and United States officials in his
    detainment, and details about the CIA black site where the
    alleged interrogation and torture occurred. Abu Zubaydah
    represented that given their “central role in the interrogation
    program and their presence at the Polish black site,” Mitchell
    and Jessen could also provide information on “the identities
    of other witnesses to the crimes against Abu Zubaydah” and
    “agreements between Polish and U.S. officials.” According
    to Abu Zubaydah’s application, all this information would
    be used to “aid the Polish prosecutors in their understanding
    of Polish civilian and governmental complicity in the
    operation.”
    After the district court initially granted Abu Zubaydah’s
    application, the United States moved to intervene and quash
    the subpoenas. In its motion to quash, the United States
    formally invoked the state secrets privilege and supported its
    assertion with two declarations from then-CIA Director and
    20             HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    now Secretary of State Michael Pompeo. Director Pompeo’s
    declarations outlined seven categories of information over
    which the United States asserted the privilege:
    [1] Information that could identify
    individuals involved in the program;
    [2]   Information     regarding    foreign
    government cooperation with the CIA;
    [3] Information pertaining to the operation or
    location of any clandestine overseas CIA
    station, base, or detention facility;
    [4] Information regarding the capture and/or
    transfer of detainees;
    [5] Intelligence information about detainees
    and terrorist organizations, to include
    intelligence obtained or discussed in
    debriefing or interrogation sessions;
    [6] Information concerning CIA intelligence
    sources and methods, as well as specific
    intelligence operations; and,
    [7] Information concerning the CIA’s
    internal structure and administration.
    As the CIA Director explained, Abu Zubaydah’s requested
    discovery “would tend to confirm or deny whether or not
    [Mitchell and Jessen] have information about these
    categories as they pertain to whether or not the CIA
    conducted detention and interrogation operations in Poland
    and/or with the assistance of the Polish Government.”
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    21
    The Director warned that disclosure of this information
    “reasonably could be expected to cause serious, and in many
    instances, exceptionally grave damage to U.S. national
    security.” He explained that maintaining the confidentiality
    of foreign partnerships is critical, for “if the CIA appears
    unable or unwilling to keep its clandestine liaison
    relationships secret, relationships with other foreign
    intelligence or security services could be jeopardized.”
    Pompeo also explained that whether some alleged
    information about the requested topics was already in the
    public domain was of no moment. “The absence of official
    confirmation from the CIA leaves an important element of
    doubt about the veracity of the information.” That provided
    “an additional layer of confidentiality” that “would be lost
    . . . if the CIA were forced to confirm or deny the accuracy
    of speculation or unofficial disclosures.”
    The district court granted the United States’ motion to
    quash. It agreed that the privilege covered “operational
    details concerning the specifics of cooperation with a foreign
    government” and that such discovery “legitimately could
    jeopardize national security.” The district court concluded
    that the existence of a CIA facility on Polish soil and
    Poland’s cooperation with the CIA were not secret because
    they had been discussed in publicly available documents.
    But it declined to allow discovery on that basis. Instead, the
    district court reasoned that “the mere fact of whether
    operations were conducted in Poland would not seem of
    much, if any, assistance to a Polish investigation” in light of
    the public documents, whereas proceeding with discovery
    would pose an unacceptable risk of disclosing state secrets.
    22               HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    B
    Abu Zubaydah appealed, and a divided panel of this
    court reversed. Husayn v. Mitchell, 
    938 F.3d 1123
    , 1126
    (9th Cir. 2019). The majority opinion acknowledged that
    “the government’s assertion of the state secrets privilege is
    valid over much of the information requested.” 
    Id.
     But it
    held that the following information is not a state secret: “the
    fact that the CIA operated a detention facility in Poland in
    the early 2000s; information about the use of interrogation
    techniques and conditions of confinement in that detention
    facility; and details of Abu Zubaydah’s treatment there.” 
    Id. at 1134
    . According to the majority, these facts were no
    longer “secret” because they were the subject of a Polish
    investigation and had been discussed in publicly available
    documents, such as media reports. 
    Id. at 1127
    , 1132–34.
    The majority opinion also held that because Mitchell and
    Jessen are “private parties,” their testimony would not be
    “equivalent to the United States confirming or denying
    anything”—even though Mitchell and Jessen were the
    government contractors who “proposed and developed” the
    CIA’s interrogation techniques and “supervise[d]” Abu
    Zubaydah’s interrogation. 
    Id. at 1127, 1133
    .
    Although the majority determined that most of the
    requested discovery was privileged, it remanded to the
    district court “to disentangle nonprivileged from privileged
    information,” because, in the panel’s view, “it is not
    impossible to separate secret information.” 
    Id. at 1126, 1135
    . While the majority allowed that the district court
    could on remand “again conclude” that “it is not possible to
    disentangle the privileged from [the] nonprivileged,” the
    panel expressed the view that “the record suggests that [Abu
    Zubaydah] can obtain nonprivileged information from
    Mitchell and Jessen.” 
    Id.
     at 1136–37.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    23
    Judge Gould dissented. At the outset, he observed that
    he is “not in a position as an Article III judge” to say that
    certain matters were nonprivileged due to public reporting
    and would have thus “defer[red]” to Director Pompeo’s
    views. 
    Id. at 1138
     (Gould, J., dissenting). Regardless, Judge
    Gould would have dismissed the § 1782 application because
    “an attempt to disentangle the details of Abu Zubaydah’s
    treatment in Poland could expose a broader mosaic of
    clandestine ‘intelligence activities, sources, or methods,’”
    thereby “jeopardiz[ing] critical national security concerns.”
    Id. at 1138, 1139 (quoting Mohamed v. Jeppesen Dataplan,
    Inc., 
    614 F.3d 1070
    , 1086 (9th Cir. 2010) (en banc)). Indeed,
    Judge Gould wrote, the requested information will be used
    in a “Polish prosecution seeking to discover aspects of the
    CIA’s presence in Poland and any foreign nationals working
    with the CIA there, topics the majority recognizes to be
    privileged.” 
    Id. at 1140
    .
    Judge Gould also warned that these national security
    concerns are heightened in a § 1782 proceeding, where
    discovered information “is ultimately destined for a foreign
    tribunal.” Id. In his view, the balance of interests “should
    recognize that information produced in domestic
    proceedings remains under the supervision of the United
    States court system in a way that information produced in
    discovery for overseas tribunals does not.” Id. In this case,
    any resulting documents and testimony would be exported
    for use in a quasi-criminal proceeding in Poland, “totally out
    of control” of the U.S. courts. Id.
    II
    The serious legal errors in the majority opinion, and the
    national security risks those errors portend, qualified this
    case for en banc review. The majority opinion treats
    information that is core state secrets material as fair game in
    24               HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    discovery; it vitiates the state secrets privilege because of
    information that is supposedly in the public domain; it fails
    to give deference to the CIA Director on matters uniquely
    within his national security expertise; and it discounted the
    government’s valid national security concerns because the
    discovery was only sought against government
    contractors—even though these contractors were the
    architects of the CIA’s interrogation program and discovery
    of them is effectively discovery of the government itself.
    The majority then tasked the district court with
    “disentangling” supposedly non-privileged information
    from information the majority acknowledged was clearly
    privileged. And all of this is happening in the context of a
    § 1782 application, where any resulting discovery will be
    transferred overseas to a foreign proceeding in Poland that
    purports to be investigating our country’s intelligence
    efforts. This is not the result that precedent allowed, and I
    fear the majority’s decision will pose unnecessary risks to
    our country’s safety and security.
    A
    The state secrets privilege is a “privilege against
    revealing military secrets, a privilege which is well
    established in the law of evidence.” United States v.
    Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. 1
    , 6–7 (1953). The privilege ensures the
    non-disclosure of information if “there is a reasonable
    danger that compulsion of the evidence will expose military
    matters which, in the interest of national security, should not
    be divulged.” 
    Id. at 10
    ; see also Gen. Dynamics Corp. v.
    United States, 
    563 U.S. 478
    , 484–85 (2011); Mohamed,
    614 F.3d at 1081–82; Al-Haramain Islamic Found., Inc. v.
    Bush, 
    507 F.3d 1190
    , 1196 (9th Cir. 2007).
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                      25
    Given the competing interests at stake, “[w]here there is
    a strong showing of necessity, the claim of privilege should
    not be lightly accepted.” Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. at 11
    . But the
    Supreme Court has also instructed that “even the most
    compelling necessity cannot overcome the claim of privilege
    if the court is ultimately satisfied that military secrets are at
    stake.” 
    Id.
     Applying these principles, we have upheld
    application of the state secrets privilege on various
    occasions, as have other circuits. See Mohamed, 614 F.3d
    at 1073; Al-Haramain, 
    507 F.3d at
    1204–05; Kasza v.
    Browner, 
    133 F.3d 1159
    , 1165–67, 1168–70 (9th Cir. 1998);
    see also, e.g., El-Masri v. United States, 
    479 F.3d 296
    , 299–
    300 (4th Cir. 2007); Zuckerbraun v. Gen. Dynamics Corp.,
    
    935 F.2d 544
    , 545 (2d Cir. 1991).
    Applying the Supreme Court’s leading decision in
    Reynolds, we analyze the United States’ assertion of the state
    secrets privilege in three steps:
    First, we must ascertain that the procedural
    requirements for invoking the state secrets
    privilege have been satisfied. Second, we
    must make an independent determination
    whether the information is privileged. . . .
    Finally, the ultimate question to be resolved
    is how the matter should proceed in light of
    the successful privilege claim.
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1080 (ellipsis in original) (quotations
    omitted). Everyone agrees that through declarations from
    then-CIA Director Pompeo, the United States has formally
    asserted the state secrets privilege. Husayn, 938 F.3d
    at 1131. It is on steps two and three that my fine colleagues
    in the panel majority regrettably but manifestly erred.
    26              HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    B
    In concluding that the United States had not
    demonstrated that the information sought in this case was
    entirely privileged, the majority opinion contradicts
    governing precedent, jeopardizing national security. While
    the majority agreed that “much . . . of the information
    requested by [Abu Zubaydah] is covered by the state secrets
    privilege,” it held that “a subset of information is not”
    privileged, specifically: “the fact that the CIA operated a
    detention facility in Poland in the early 2000s; information
    about the use of interrogation techniques and conditions of
    confinement in that detention facility; and details of Abu
    Zubaydah’s treatment there.” Id. at 1134. The majority also
    held that “the record suggests that [Abu Zubaydah] can
    obtain nonprivileged information from Mitchell and Jessen,”
    which the majority says would also include “the story around
    [Abu Zubaydah’s claims in Poland],” “the narrative,” and
    “what sort of treatment was Mr. Zubaydah subjected to.” Id.
    at 1136 (second alteration in original) (quotations omitted).
    This is serious error because the state secrets privilege
    should preclude discovery of these sensitive topics. In our
    en banc decision in Mohamed, we held that the state secrets
    doctrine “indisputably” may cover “information about
    whether any foreign government cooperated with the CIA in
    clandestine intelligence activities,” “information about the
    scope or operation of the CIA terrorist detention and
    interrogation program,” and “any other information
    concerning CIA clandestine intelligence operations that
    would tend to reveal intelligence activities, sources, or
    methods.” 614 F.3d at 1086; see also El-Masri, 
    479 F.3d at 309
     (state secrets privilege covers “information regarding
    the means and methods by which the CIA gathers
    intelligence”); Sterling v. Tenet, 
    416 F.3d 338
    , 348 (4th Cir.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                   27
    2005) (privilege covers “the methods and operations of the
    Central Intelligence Agency”).
    This is substantially the same information Abu
    Zubaydah seeks in this case. The state secrets privilege
    recognizes that “protecting our national security sometimes
    requires keeping information about our military,
    intelligence, and diplomatic efforts secret.” Gen. Dynamics,
    
    563 U.S. at 484
    . Contrary to precedent, the majority opinion
    in this case treats topics that lie at the core of our
    counterterrorism efforts as permissible areas of inquiry.
    Although “we must make an independent determination
    whether the information is privileged,” Mohamed, 614 F.3d
    at 1081 (quoting Al-Haramain, 
    507 F.3d at 1202
    ), we have
    also held that some level of deference is due to the
    government’s assertion of privilege. As our en banc court
    explained in Mohamed, “[i]n evaluating the need for secrecy,
    ‘we acknowledge the need to defer to the Executive on
    matters of foreign policy and national security and surely
    cannot legitimately find ourselves second guessing the
    Executive in this arena.’” 
    Id.
     at 1081–82 (quoting Al-
    Haramain, 
    507 F.3d at 1203
    ); see also Kasza, 
    133 F.3d at 1166
     (explaining that a “claim of privilege is accorded the
    ‘utmost deference’ and the court’s review of the claim of
    privilege is narrow”).
    In this case, then-CIA Director Pompeo submitted two
    substantial declarations attesting to the national security
    risks that Abu Zubaydah’s discovery requests would present.
    Based on his expertise and vantage point, Director Pompeo
    identified specific categories of information that would pose
    a risk to national security. He then explained how disclosure
    of this information would harm the United States’
    intelligence and counterterrorism activities, including its
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    clandestine partnerships with other governments that assist
    the United States in its covert operations.
    Contrary to our precedents and my colleague Judge
    Gould’s compelling dissent, the panel decision does not
    reflect any apparent deference to the CIA Director’s
    declarations. Instead, the majority reaches a conclusion
    directly at odds with that of the CIA Director: that
    “disclosure of certain basic facts would not cause grave
    damage to national security.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1133
    (emphasis added) (quotations omitted).
    This is very concerning. Our deference to the Executive
    Branch is not unyielding, but when it comes to the sorts of
    counterintelligence and counterterrorism issues presented
    here, courts must recognize that their field of vision is
    limited. Such deference is not an abdication of judicial duty,
    but reflects a justified appreciation for the constitutional and
    national security considerations that a request like Abu
    Zubaydah’s necessarily implicates. See, e.g., CIA v. Sims,
    
    471 U.S. 159
    , 179 (1985) (“The decisions of the [CIA]
    Director, who must of course be familiar with ‘the whole
    picture,’ as judges are not, are worthy of great deference
    given the magnitude of the national security interests and
    potential risks at stake.”).
    The majority’s reason for not deferring to Director
    Pompeo’s informed views marks an even further departure
    from precedent: that aspects of the government’s program of
    interrogating suspected terrorists “are basically public
    knowledge.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1132; see also id. at 1134
    (“These facts have been in the public eye for some years now
    . . . .”); id. at 1138 (“[W]e have engaged in a public debate
    over the CIA’s conduct during the early years of the war on
    terror.”). As proof, the majority points to statements made
    by media outlets, the Polish government, and the European
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                     29
    Court of Human Rights. See id. at 1132–33. The majority’s
    refusal to accord state secret protection on grounds of
    “public knowledge” conflicts with precedent and
    underscores the national security risks that the court’s
    decision poses.
    The majority opinion’s reliance on publicly available
    information to narrow the privilege is a stark departure from
    the bedrock principle that “[t]he privilege belongs to the
    Government” and “can neither be claimed nor waived by a
    private party.” Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. at 7
     (footnotes omitted).
    In Mohamed, our en banc court thus specifically rejected the
    theory that public disclosure of information (by entities other
    than the United States itself) could defeat an otherwise valid
    state secrets claim. The Mohamed court “recognize[d] that
    plaintiffs ha[d] proffered hundreds of pages of publicly
    available documents . . . that they say corroborate some of
    their allegations concerning [a government contractor’s]
    alleged participation in aspects of the extraordinary rendition
    program,” including numerous media reports. 614 F.3d
    at 1089–90.         Mohamed likewise recognized that
    “[a]ccording to plaintiffs, ‘[v]irtually every aspect of [one
    plaintiff’s] rendition, including his torture in Egypt, has been
    publicly acknowledged by the Swedish government.’” Id.
    at 1074.
    Yet notwithstanding all of this, we held the discovery
    could not proceed based on the state secrets privilege
    because “partial disclosure of the existence and even some
    aspects of the extraordinary rendition program does not
    preclude other details from remaining state secrets if their
    disclosure would risk grave harm to national security.” Id.
    at 1090 (emphasis in original). The majority opinion in this
    case rejected this point on the theory that “[t]he world has
    moved on since we discussed the state secrets privilege in
    30              HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    Mohamed.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1138. That commentary is
    unsupported, but regardless, the principle that only the
    government may waive the state secrets privilege is not a
    time-limited one. If anything, that principle has even greater
    resonance in a technology-driven world in which
    information can quickly become “publicly available”
    through so many means.
    Director Pompeo’s declaration also directly addressed
    the public disclosure issue and explained why the CIA
    believed that discovery should not proceed in this matter
    notwithstanding the information already in the public
    domain. As Director Pompeo attested, while “the media,
    nongovernmental organizations, and former Polish
    government officials have publicly alleged that the CIA
    operated a detention facility in Poland,” “[t]hese allegations
    do not constitute an official acknowledgment by the CIA.”
    This “absence of official confirmation from the CIA” is
    critical: it “carries with it an additional layer of
    confidentiality” and preserves “an important element of
    doubt.” That, in turn, reduces the “motivat[ion of] hostile
    entities or foreign governments to take action against the
    CIA,” while ensuring that foreign partners can “trust our
    ability to honor our pledge to keep any clandestine
    cooperation with the CIA a secret.”
    Courts, including ours, have recognized that the
    government has a national security interest in neither
    confirming nor denying a sensitive fact or event. See
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1089 (“[T]here is precious little
    Jeppesen could say about its relevant conduct and
    knowledge without revealing information about how the
    United States government does or does not conduct covert
    operations.”) (emphasis in original); Kasza, 
    133 F.3d at 1163
    (enforcing privilege where the government maintained that
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    the privilege “barred the presentation of any evidence
    tending to confirm or disprove” certain facts relating to a
    classified facility); see also Weinberger v. Catholic Action
    of Haw./Peace Educ. Project, 
    454 U.S. 139
    , 146 (1981)
    (holding that allegations were “beyond judicial scrutiny”
    because “[d]ue to national security reasons, . . . the Navy can
    neither admit nor deny that it proposes to store nuclear
    weapons at [the facility]”).
    The panel majority in this case thus failed to recognize
    that regardless of whether some information is in the public
    domain, the concerns animating the state secrets privilege
    remain. Indeed, the notion that our country’s state secrets
    privilege should turn on “what the rest of the world” has
    supposedly acknowledged, as Judge Paez’s concurrence in
    the denial of rehearing en banc maintains, is antithetical to
    the core principles on which the privilege is founded. 1
    The majority offered a specific reason for disregarding
    Director Pompeo’s determination about the national security
    significance of the United States’ refusal to confirm or deny
    CIA operations in Poland: Mitchell and Jessen are “private
    parties,” so their “disclosures are not equivalent to the
    United States confirming or denying anything.” Husayn,
    1
    The majority’s reliance on findings of the European Court of
    Human Rights is especially troubling. Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1127–28,
    1133–34. The ECHR reached conclusions about Abu Zubaydah’s
    torture in Poland in part by drawing negative inferences from Poland’s
    past “denial, lack of cooperation with the inquiry bodies and marked
    reluctance to disclose information of the CIA rendition activities in
    Poland.” Husayn (Abu Zubaydah), ¶ 435. If a foreign partner refused to
    confirm allegations to protect U.S. state secrets, and if a foreign court
    later relied on that refusal to infer the truth of the allegations, then under
    the majority’s reasoning the allegations would become “public
    knowledge.” It cannot be the law that foreign partners would destroy the
    U.S. state secrets privilege by trying to protect it.
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    938 F.3d at 1133; see also id. (“[N]either Mitchell nor Jessen
    are agents of the government.”); id. at 1133 n.15 (“[N]othing
    about the government’s participation in discovery would
    constitute governmental acknowledgement or denial of the
    site’s existence.”); id. at 1135 n.18 (same). This reflects
    another substantial legal error in the majority’s opinion that
    creates national security risk and warranted en banc review.
    I am aware of no court that has held the state secrets
    privilege is removed or diminished when the discovery is
    directed to a government contractor. To the contrary, in
    Mohamed itself, we held that the state secrets privilege
    applied in a suit against a government contractor because the
    contractor could “reveal[] information about how the United
    States government does or does not conduct covert
    operations.” 614 F.3d at 1089 (emphasis omitted); see also
    El-Masri, 
    479 F.3d at
    299–300 (applying state secrets
    privilege in suit involving government contractors). A
    contrary rule would enable an end-run around the privilege,
    as litigants could simply subpoena current or former
    contractors to avoid the privilege’s strictures. That cannot
    be the law, especially when the United States regularly relies
    on contractors in national security functions.
    According to Judge Paez’s concurrence, the majority
    opinion “states only that the government failed to explain
    why discovery by Mitchell or Jessen would amount to an
    official confirmation.” (Emphasis in original). The majority
    opinion is not so limited, but even so, the “why” here is
    abundantly clear. Mitchell and Jessen are not just any
    contractors. They are the experts who, by the majority’s
    description, “proposed and developed” the CIA’s enhanced
    interrogation techniques, “supervise[d] the interrogations”
    that are the subject of this proceeding, and were “involve[d]
    in Abu Zubaydah’s torture.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1127.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                            33
    Their knowledge of CIA operations and interrogations in
    Poland is based on their work with the CIA. It is thus
    inconceivable that documents and testimony from such
    persons would not reflect U.S. “official acknowledgment,
    implicit or otherwise,” as the majority opinion holds. Id.
    at 1135 n.18. That is especially the case when the United
    States will need to be actively involved in these proceedings
    to protect its interests the best it can. 2
    In short, while the majority opinion does not itself order
    the disclosure of state secret material, it introduces a legal
    framework under which privileged information is treated as
    non-privileged, for reasons that conflict with precedent.
    This improper framework poses untold risks for our national
    security, both in this case and in the future cases that must
    try to comply with the majority’s decision.
    C
    Of course, even if some of the requested discovery here
    is non-privileged, the panel decision is still deeply
    problematic. Under our case law applying Reynolds, a
    matter cannot go forward when “it may be impossible to
    proceed with the litigation because—privileged evidence
    being inseparable from nonprivileged information that will
    be necessary to the claims or defenses—litigating the case to
    a judgment on the merits would present an unacceptable risk
    of disclosing state secrets.” Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1083.
    2
    I do not understand how Judge Paez’s concurrence can claim that
    “the government can still argue on remand that it should not disclose any
    information from Mitchell and Jessen that would amount to an official
    confirmation.” The majority opinion forecloses that argument by
    holding that “[a]s private parties, Mitchell’s and Jessen’s disclosures are
    not equivalent to the United States confirming or denying anything.”
    Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1133.
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    Judge Gould’s panel dissent persuasively shows the
    majority’s critical errors under this standard.
    As Judge Gould explained, “even otherwise innocuous
    information that provides a more coherent and complete
    narrative should not be produced where it may risk exposing
    a broader picture.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1139 (Gould, J.,
    dissenting). That risk is acutely present here because the
    timing, location, and manner of Abu Zubaydah’s alleged
    detention and interrogation are bound up in a “broader
    mosaic of clandestine ‘intelligence activities, sources, or
    methods.’” Id. (quoting Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1086).
    The risk is even more severe given the nature of this
    proceeding. This is not a case where potentially secret
    information is relevant to some claim or defense in a lawsuit.
    Instead, exposing the classified “mosaic” is the entire point
    of the Polish criminal proceeding. As the panel majority
    explains, the requested discovery will ultimately be used to
    “provide context” to foreign prosecutors seeking to identify
    and prosecute Polish individuals who aided the CIA. Id.
    at 1136 (majority opinion). But the identities and roles of
    these individuals are privileged, as is much of their work
    with the CIA—as the panel concedes. See id. at 1134. The
    majority opinion thus creates a perfect storm, because any
    supposedly non-privileged information “will inevitably be
    placed in the context of a Polish prosecution seeking to
    discover aspects of the CIA’s presence in Poland and any
    foreign nationals working with the CIA there, topics the
    majority recognizes to be privileged.” Id. at 1140 (Gould,
    J., dissenting).
    How, then, is the district court on remand supposed to
    “disentangle” all of this, id. at 1126, 1137 (majority
    opinion), without inadvertently disclosing highly sensitive
    intelligence and counterterrorism information that could
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    jeopardize our national security? The majority has no
    plausible answer. But what we know is that if a district court
    in this case is expected to undertake that impossible task,
    under the majority opinion district courts in virtually any
    case would be required to do so, because the information at
    issue here is at least as sensitive as any other. 3
    It was thus not accurate for the majority to frame its
    decision as a “narrow” and “limited” one. Id. at 1126, 1137.
    The decision instead conveys the broad message to district
    courts that even in the face of the Supreme Court’s decision
    in Reynolds and declarations from the CIA Director, district
    courts risk reversal if they do not undertake a
    “disentanglement” process that will be fraught with peril.
    That should not be the law of this circuit.
    Judge Paez’s concurrence now suggests the problem
    here was merely that “the district court never conducted the
    third step of” the Reynolds analysis because it never “us[ed]
    any discovery tools at its disposal,” such as “in camera
    review, protective orders, or restrictions on testimony.” But
    these “tools” all entail the district court reviewing or holding
    proceedings involving clearly privileged information, as part
    of an effort to “disentangle” supposedly non-privileged
    items. The suggestion that these “tools” must be utilized
    3
    The majority suggested that depositions “could proceed in this
    case” “with the use of code names and pseudonyms, where appropriate,”
    as was done in Salim v. Mitchell, No. 2:15-cv-286-JLQ (E.D. Wash.
    2016). See Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1137. That suggestion is not workable
    here. As the district judge—who also presided in Salim—explained,
    because the focus of Abu Zubaydah’s proposed discovery is so plain,
    “[a]llowing the matter to proceed with a code word, such as ‘detention
    site blue’ to replace Poland seems disingenuous.”
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    here is mistaken and only further jeopardizes national
    security.
    Reynolds is clear that even an in camera review, the least
    intrusive and least risky of the options, is not necessary to
    enforce the privilege. See Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. at 10
     (“[W]e
    will not go so far as to say that the court may automatically
    require a complete disclosure to the judge before the claim
    of privilege will be accepted in any case”). As the Reynolds
    Court explained, when “there is a reasonable danger that
    compulsion of the evidence will expose” state secrets, “the
    court should not jeopardize the security which the privilege
    is meant to protect by insisting upon an examination of the
    evidence, even by the judge alone, in chambers.” 
    Id.
    We acknowledged that in camera review is not always
    necessary in Mohamed. 614 F.3d at 1081. And other circuits
    are in accord. See, e.g., Doe v. CIA, 
    576 F.3d 95
    , 104 (2d
    Cir. 2009); Sterling, 
    416 F.3d at 345
    ; Zuckerbraun, 
    935 F.2d at 548
    . As the Fourth Circuit explained, “when a judge has
    satisfied himself that the dangers asserted by the government
    are substantial and real, he need not—indeed, should not—
    probe further” with an in camera proceeding. Sterling,
    
    416 F.3d at 345
    . These observations apply perforce to other
    proceedings, like the concurrence’s reference to potential
    depositions of Mitchell and Jessen, which would create even
    greater risk that privileged information is improperly
    disclosed.
    The suggestion in Judge Paez’s concurrence that
    Reynolds requires an in camera review, or other proceedings
    that are even more treacherous, is therefore contrary to
    settled law. The district court here thus did not somehow fail
    to evaluate the third part of a three-part test. But regardless,
    further proceedings involving privileged information is now
    the perilous course that the district court must follow, a
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    course the majority opinion regrettably foreordains for many
    future cases where our country’s sensitive military and
    intelligence information may be at stake.
    D
    This would all be troubling enough if the resulting
    discovery were being used in domestic litigation. But here,
    any materials that are released will be sent over to a foreign
    legal system that we do not control. We should have
    recognized that when the state secrets privilege is asserted,
    the considerations are vastly different when the materials are
    being sought for use exclusively in a foreign proceeding.
    See 
    28 U.S.C. § 1782
    . That is particularly so when the
    foreign proceeding is dedicated to investigating our
    country’s counterintelligence operations abroad.
    As we explained in Mohamed, courts evaluating state
    secrets claims must ensure “that an appropriate balance is
    struck between protecting national security matters and
    preserving an open court system.” 614 F.3d at 1081
    (quotations omitted). But when we have addressed state
    secrets issues in prior cases, we were considering whether
    the materials could be used in U.S. litigation. See id. at
    1075–76 (claims brought under Alien Tort Statute against
    U.S. corporation for its alleged involvement in the CIA’s
    extraordinary rendition program); Al-Haramain, 
    507 F.3d at 1193, 1195
     (claims for damages and declaratory relief
    brought against United States by Muslim charity allegedly
    subjected to surveillance program); see also Reynolds,
    
    345 U.S. at
    2–3 (claims under Tort Claims Act brought
    against United States concerning military aircraft accident).
    The state secrets privilege was held to apply in these
    cases notwithstanding the resulting impediments it caused in
    our court system. Here, however, our courts are being used
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    as a vehicle for obtaining information that will be sent to
    Poland, which has already tried but failed to obtain this
    information through diplomatic channels. I agree with Judge
    Gould’s panel dissent that it is “very troubling that the
    majority’s analysis . . . does not acknowledge and evaluate
    the consequences of the fact that the information sought in a
    discovery proceeding here under § 1782 is ultimately
    destined for a foreign tribunal.” Husayn, 938 F.3d at 1140
    (Gould, J., dissenting). The balance of interests must be
    different when “the sought discovery will be shipped
    overseas for the benefit of another country’s judicial system,
    and at that point, totally out of control of a domestic court.”
    Id.
    What message does the majority opinion send to persons
    and regimes around the world desirous of our country’s
    secret information? It is that even if they strike out with the
    Executive Branch, they can come to the U.S. courts and try
    their chances by pointing to the supposed need for
    information in a foreign proceeding whose rules and
    approach may be very different than our own. In some cases,
    these § 1782 requests will yield nothing. But in other cases,
    the imprecise “disentanglement” process may shake loose a
    few nuggets of information, or even more. What will then
    be done with that information we cannot know. These are
    risks we should not tolerate and that a fair application of the
    state secrets privilege should protect against.
    I respectfully dissent from the denial of rehearing en
    banc.