Oncor Electric Delivery Compan v. NLRB , 887 F.3d 488 ( 2018 )


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  •  United States Court of Appeals
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
    Argued December 5, 2017               Decided April 13, 2018
    No. 16-1278
    ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY LLC,
    PETITIONER
    v.
    NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD,
    RESPONDENT
    INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL
    WORKERS, LOCAL UNION NO. 69,
    INTERVENOR
    Consolidated with 16-1341
    On Petition for Review and Cross-Application
    for Enforcement of an Order of
    the National Labor Relations Board
    David C. Lonergan argued the cause for petitioner. With
    him on the briefs were Robert T. Dumbacher and Amber M.
    Rogers.
    David Casserly, Attorney, National Labor Relations
    Board, argued the cause for respondent. With him on the brief
    were Richard F. Griffin, Jr., General Counsel at the time the
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    brief was filed, John H. Ferguson, Associate General Counsel,
    Linda Dreeben, Deputy Associate General Counsel, and Kira
    Dellinger Vol, Supervisory Attorney.
    Hal K. Gillespie argued the cause and filed the brief for
    intervenor.
    Before: MILLETT and PILLARD, Circuit Judges, and
    WILLIAMS, Senior Circuit Judge.
    Opinion for the Court filed by Senior Circuit Judge
    WILLIAMS.
    WILLIAMS, Senior Circuit Judge: The National Labor
    Relations Act (the “Act”) protects the right of employees to
    “engage in . . . concerted activities for the purpose of collective
    bargaining or other mutual aid or protection.” 
    29 U.S.C. § 157
    .
    Under some circumstances those protected activities include
    employee appeals to third parties standing “outside the
    immediate employee-employer relationship.” Eastex, Inc. v
    NLRB, 
    437 U.S. 556
    , 565 (1978).
    But the protection of the Act is no bar to dismissal for
    “cause,” 
    29 U.S.C. § 160
    (c) (i.e., a cause independent of
    protected activity), and, as the Supreme Court said in the case
    now known generally as Jefferson Standard, “There is no more
    elemental cause for discharge of an employee than disloyalty
    to [a person’s] employer.” NLRB v. Local Union No. 1229,
    Int’l Board of Elec. Workers, 
    346 U.S. 464
    , 472 (1953). Since
    then, we have interpreted the practices of the National Labor
    Relations Board, read in the light of Jefferson Standard, to have
    “formulated a two-prong test for assessing whether employees’
    third-party appeals constitute protected concerted activity or
    instead amount to ‘such detrimental disloyalty’ as to permit the
    employees’ termination for cause.” DirecTV, Inc. v. NLRB,
    
    837 F.3d 25
    , 34 (D.C. Cir. 2016). Under the test, even
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    disparaging statements can enjoy the Act’s protection “where
    [i] the communication indicate[s] it is related to an ongoing
    dispute between the employees and the employers and [ii] the
    communication is not so disloyal, reckless or maliciously
    untrue as to lose the Act’s protection,” 
    id.
     (citing American
    Golf Corp., 
    330 NLRB 1238
    , 1240 (2000) (Mountain Shadows
    Golf)); see also Endicott Interconnect Tech., Inc. v. NLRB, 
    453 F.3d 532
    , 537 (D.C. Cir. 2006) (finding that Mountain Shadows
    Golf “accurately reflects the holding in Jefferson Standard”).
    The purpose of the first condition, disclosure to the audience of
    the disparaging assertions, is of course to enable the recipients
    to evaluate the statements in a fuller context, applying what the
    listener or reader regards as a suitable discount or enhancement.
    Jefferson Standard, 
    346 U.S. at 477
    ; see also DirecTV, 837
    F.3d at 35 (“[T]hird parties who receive appeals for support in
    a labor dispute will filter the information critically so long as
    they are aware it is generated out of that context.” (quoting
    Sierra Publ’g Co. v. NLRB, 
    889 F.2d 210
    , 217 (9th Cir. 1989)).
    Oncor Electric Delivery Company petitions for review of
    the Board’s decision that it engaged in unfair labor practices by
    discharging its employee, Bobby Reed, for making false or
    disparaging statements during two minutes of testimony before
    a Texas senate committee. Oncor argues that the Board
    misapplied the Jefferson Standard test. As the Board’s
    decision essentially skipped discussion of the first requirement
    for its application, we remand the decision for further
    consideration.
    We “must uphold the judgment of the Board unless, upon
    reviewing the record as a whole, we conclude that the Board’s
    findings are not supported by substantial evidence, or that the
    Board acted arbitrarily or otherwise erred in applying
    established law to the facts of the case.” Tenneco Auto., Inc.
    v. NLRB, 
    716 F.3d 640
    , 646–47 (D.C. Cir. 2013) (internal
    citation and quotation marks omitted). Of course the Board
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    enjoys no special deference in the interpretations of decisions
    of the Supreme Court (or, indeed, of other courts). See New
    York New York, LLC v. NLRB, 
    313 F.3d 585
    , 590 (D.C. Cir.
    2002).
    Even under that deferential standard, we find the Board’s
    reasoning in this case too opaque to resolve whether it is
    supported by substantial evidence. We therefore grant the
    petition in part and remand to the Board to make clear its
    principles for affording protection to employees’ disparaging
    appeals to third parties; “[T]he orderly functioning of the
    process of review requires that the grounds upon which the
    administrative agency acted be clearly disclosed and
    adequately sustained.” SEC v. Chenery Corp., 
    318 U.S. 80
    , 94
    (1943). Oncor raises other challenges, including its dispute
    with the Board over Oncor’s production of documents and its
    contention that the Board’s General Counsel was without
    authority to issue the complaint; we reject these arguments. We
    thus grant the petition in part and deny in part, and we remand
    to the Board for further clarification.
    * * *
    The main dispute in this case arises from an October 2012
    hearing before a Texas senate committee tasked with
    “[s]tudy[ing] whether advanced meters, or smart meters, that
    have been, and will be, installed in Texas have harmful effects
    on [public] health.” Joint Appendix (“J.A.”) 443, 444–45. In
    2008 Oncor had begun installing smart meters—essentially
    digital metering devices that can report customers’ electricity
    usage remotely, thereby eliminating the need for personal
    inspection and the associated labor costs. By the time of the
    legislative committee hearing, Oncor had installed over 3
    million smart meters.
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    Bobby Reed volunteered to testify at a hearing held on
    October 9. He was an Oncor “trouble man” who completed ad
    hoc repair jobs and responded to power outages. Since April
    2011, he had also been the business manager and financial
    secretary for the International Brotherhood of Electrical
    Workers, Local 69. Reed signed the committee’s witness list
    as representing “(Self; IBEW Local 69), Dallas, TX,” and
    indicated he would testify “on” smart meters, rather than “for”
    or “against.” J.A. 451. He was allotted two minutes.
    During his brief testimony, Reed said he represented the
    local union in Dallas and had consulted its equivalent in
    Houston. He testified that “the work orders that I went out on
    were beginning to be increasingly of the meters burning up and
    burning up the meter bases.” J.A. 14. Reed reiterated that this
    occurrence was becoming more frequent, and had begun “when
    they started installing the AMS [Advanced Metering System,
    or smart] meters.” 
    Id.
     When asked by a senator whether the
    burning could be attributed to the power line, Reed was
    emphatic, “No, it’s the meter.” 
    Id.
     Reed made two arguable
    references to working conditions. First, he testified to receiving
    repair orders or damaged boxes after the meters had burned.
    There was no mention of employees’ encountering fires,
    electrical arcs, or other live hazards while servicing the meters.
    Second, his testimony focused on his experience with
    disgruntled customers. He spoke of an “elderly woman,” a
    widow, who had been told by Oncor that she would have to pay
    for the damage herself before her power could be turned back
    on. 
    Id.
     Reed concluded that he did not “know much about
    [radio] frequency [a topic raised earlier in the hearing], but I do
    know a little bit about fire and heat, and these things are causing
    damage to people’s homes.” 
    Id.
    The day after Reed’s testimony, Oncor initiated an
    investigation to verify whether the company had received
    complaints of smart meters causing fires and damaging
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    consumers’ homes. Concluding that Reed’s testimony was
    false, Oncor terminated his employment on January 14, 2013,
    for Reed’s having given “false testimony.” J.A. 1555. After a
    seven-day trial, an administrative law judge held that the
    discharge violated § 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act for interfering
    with Reed’s protected union activities. The Board affirmed.
    * * *
    We first clear out of the way an Oncor argument that
    Reed’s testimony was not “for the purpose of collective
    bargaining or other mutual aid or protection,” a fundamental
    prerequisite of protection under § 7 of the Act. Reed informed
    Oncor that he would testify to the senate committee if the union
    did not reach a favorable result in the collective bargaining then
    going on between the union and Oncor. Reed then testified the
    next day and signified both on the witness list and in his
    remarks that his testimony was on behalf of the union. We will
    return to the collective bargaining shortly, as it plays a role in
    the Board’s contention that Reed’s message to the committee
    qualified for protection under Jefferson Standard. But basic
    qualification for protection under § 7 and satisfying the
    conditions for protection under Jefferson Standard are two
    separate issues. See Tradesmen Int’l, Inc. v. NLRB, 
    275 F.3d 1137
     (D.C. Cir. 2002). The Board properly found the former
    met here; we now turn to the latter.
    Oncor argues that the Board never addressed the first
    requirement of Jefferson Standard—that an employee’s appeal
    to a third-party “indicate it is related to an ongoing dispute
    between the employees and the employers.” Mountain
    Shadows Golf, 330 NLRB at 1240. The Board tacitly (and,
    given the record, necessarily) admits that it didn’t address this
    point but argues that Oncor never raised the objection to the
    Board, thus barring our review under § 10(e) of the Act, 
    29 U.S.C. § 160
    (e). It points out that Oncor nowhere cited
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    Jefferson Standard or Mountain Shadows Golf in its exceptions
    to the Board.
    We are satisfied that Oncor did in fact raise this objection.
    In the context of its exceptions to the ALJ’s finding of protected
    activity, Oncor objected that “[t]he General Counsel did not
    present any evidence that Reed testified to publicize a labor
    dispute.” J.A. 78–79. The point was clear enough to the
    General Counsel, who responded to the exception by citing
    Jefferson Standard and arguing that the test could be met
    “when it is clear from the context that [third-party appeals] are
    related to a labor dispute and/or employees’ terms and
    conditions of employment.” J.A. 132. To apply the § 10(e) bar
    on the ground of Oncor’s failure to cite Jefferson Standard
    itself would represent a clear, and offensive, “triumph of
    technical pleading over fundamental fairness.” NLRB v. Blake
    Constr. Co., 
    663 F.2d 272
    , 284 (D.C. Cir. 1981).
    * * *
    Evidently recognizing that the § 10(e) defense was not
    impregnable, the Board’s brief offered a theory as to why
    Reed’s testimony gave an adequate indication of its connection
    to a labor dispute. Further, in addressing the issue of whether
    Reed’s testimony enjoyed the protection of § 7 regardless of its
    expressing disparagement to third parties, the Board offered
    two reasons that it may on remand view as relevant to what we
    may call the “indication” question. Because at least one of
    those reasons—reliance on an undisclosed attempt to gain
    leverage in bargaining—rests on a legal error, we comment on
    the Board’s reasoning as guidance for the remand.
    There is a serious obscurity underlying the question of
    adequate notice of the link between statement and labor
    dispute. Neither the Board’s practice—nor court precedents—
    make clear who has the burden of proof on the two conditions
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    for employee protection under Jefferson Standard. At
    argument, counsel for the Board invited us to think of Jefferson
    Standard as a sort of defense for employers to raise against a
    finding that they were unlawfully sanctioning protected
    activities.
    It is true that some cases, not in this circuit, speak of
    employees’ appeals to third parties as being “stripped of § 7
    protection” under the doctrine, perhaps implying that failing the
    Jefferson Standard test causes a labor activity to lose its
    protected status and thus that the doctrine operates as an
    employer’s defense. Misericordia Hosp. Med. Ctr. v. NLRB,
    
    623 F.2d 808
    , 815 (2d Cir. 1980). Our circuit’s cases have not
    explicitly addressed whether the Board’s General Counsel
    bears the burden to show that a third-party appeal has
    “indicated” its connection to an ongoing labor controversy, or
    whether the absence of any such indication serves as a defense
    for the employer where an appeal to third parties would
    otherwise be protected under § 7. In some cases, though, the
    phrasing of the issue arguably suggests that parties seeking
    protection for disparagements need to show the connection to
    an ongoing labor controversy in order to gain the Act’s
    protection. Cf., e.g., DirecTV, 837 F.3d at 35 (“And because a
    third-party appeal must indicate a connection to an ongoing
    labor dispute in order to satisfy the first step (mere
    contemporaneousness with a dispute is not enough), the
    handbill in Jefferson Standard would have been deemed
    unprotected even if the Board had found otherwise.”) (internal
    citation omitted); George A. Hormel & Co. v. NLRB, 
    962 F.2d 1061
    , 1064 (D.C. Cir. 1992) (“[S]upporting a boycott [of an
    employer’s products] is protected § 7 activity if it (1) is related
    to an ongoing labor dispute . . . .”); Endicott, 
    453 F.3d at 538
    (Henderson, J., concurring). Jefferson Standard itself used
    both formulations. First, the Court found that a disparaging
    handbill that did not identify its union authorship or connection
    to an ongoing strike “bring[s] the [authors and distributors’]
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    discharge under § 10(c) [for cause]”; that is, their activities did
    not count as protected in the first place. 
    346 U.S. at 477
    .
    Alternatively, the Court found that even if the handbill
    distribution came under § 7’s protected activities, “the means
    used by the technicians in conducting the attack have deprived
    the attackers of the protection of that section.” Id. at 477–78.
    One possibility of course would be for the Board’s General
    Counsel to bear the burden of step one—showing substantial
    evidence that a third-party appeal adequately indicated its
    connection to an ongoing labor dispute—while the employer
    would then bear the burden of step two—affirmatively
    defending that the third-party appeal was so disloyal as to lose
    the protection initially gained at step one. But the issue is in
    the first instance for the Board. Since neither the ALJ nor the
    Board addressed the first step of Jefferson Standard at all, and
    since we have found that Oncor adequately raised the objection
    under § 10(e), we must remand to the Board; “the courts cannot
    exercise their duty of review unless they are advised of the
    considerations underlying the action under review.” Chenery,
    
    318 U.S. at 94
    . The Board’s explanation of its view on whether
    the Jefferson Standard test is satisfied will almost certainly
    require it to take a position on the allocation of burdens.
    On the substantive merits, the Board’s brief rests on a
    years-long dispute between Oncor and the union over the
    deployment of smart meters and the union’s previous lobbying
    of the Texas legislature for a bill that would allow customers to
    opt out of smart meters. The Board suggests that in this context,
    plus Reed’s identifying himself with the union and his
    testifying about smart meters, “the legislators would recognize
    that the Union and Oncor were engaged in a labor dispute
    regarding smart-meter deployment, and that Reed was at the
    hearing to represent the Union’s side of that dispute.”
    Respondent’s Br. 43.
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    The record gives very little indication of significant union
    lobbying on smart meters in the years before Reed’s testimony.
    See J.A. 374–83 (documenting union lobbying from 2002 to
    2005); 2116–17 (Reed’s testimony to the Board that the union
    hoped to gain an opt-out bill on smart meters from the 2012
    Texas senate committee). Reed had e-mailed legislative staff
    about smart meters in April 2011, but that e-mail was sent to a
    different committee from the one he testified before, in regard
    to a bill that was no longer pending when he testified (and the
    e-mail itself contained no overt nexus to employee interests).
    J.A. 384. While we recognize that Reed could be expected to
    offer only so many caveats in his two-minute testimony, and
    while a legislative audience may be especially sophisticated at
    spotting embedded special interest claims, Reed did not sign up
    to speak “for” or “against” smart meters, but “on” the topic.
    J.A. 451. It seems clear enough that the union opposed smart
    meters largely because automation threatened a decline in the
    workforce, but that was not a topic of Reed’s testimony. If on
    remand it appears that the union’s longstanding concern over
    smart meters’ effect on employment is the only relevant “labor
    dispute,” we seriously question Board counsel’s implicit
    assumption that employee disparagement of any feature of an
    innovation is an adequate signal to listeners that the speaker’s
    position is driven by workers’ anxiety about the innovation’s
    possible job-killing effects (and thus possibly subject to some
    discount). See, e.g., MikLin Enter., Inc. v. NLRB, 
    861 F.3d 812
    ,
    822–23 (8th Cir. 2017) (finding that Jefferson Standard
    requires disparagement to be “part of or directly related to an
    ongoing labor dispute” to be protected). Of course it is for the
    Board to determine, on remand, what other indication—if
    any—the audience had of a connection between Reed’s
    testimony and an ongoing labor dispute.
    In its opinion the Board’s first reason for finding Reed’s
    testimony protected under § 7 was Reed’s previously
    announced (to his employer) intention to use the testimony to
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    gain leverage in ongoing collective bargaining negotiations
    with Oncor over wage issues and a contract extension. Only
    the day before his testimony, Reed had met with Oncor officials
    in his capacity as a union representative to renegotiate the
    collective-bargaining agreement, which was set to expire later
    in the month. At a preliminary meeting, Reed announced, “I’m
    trying to play nice in the sandbox, we’re here to make a deal
    today, if we can’t, I’m going to be in Austin testifying before
    the Senate commerce committee tomorrow about smart
    meters.” J.A. 13. The parties agree that negotiations stalled
    over the term of the CBA’s extension. Oncor offered only a
    one-year extension, in part, the ALJ found, because of
    uncertainty over how the legislature would respond to smart
    meters.
    The strikers in Jefferson Standard had a similar intent to
    “gain leverage” in negotiations. Their handbill, however,
    “made no reference to the union, to a labor controversy or to
    collective bargaining,” and the Supreme Court found that “[t]he
    only connection between the handbill and the labor controversy
    was an ultimate and undisclosed purpose or motive on the part
    of some of the sponsors that, by the hoped-for financial
    pressure, the attack might extract from the company some
    future concession.” Id. at 476–77. “A disclosure of that motive
    might have lost more public support for the employees than it
    would have gained, for it would have given the handbill more
    the character of coercion than of collective bargaining.” Id. at
    477. The Supreme Court thus held in Jefferson Standard that a
    “sharp, public, disparaging attack upon the quality of the
    company’s product,” 
    346 U.S. at 471
    , does not qualify as a
    protected § 7 collective bargaining activity when the subject
    matter “ha[s] no discernible relation to [the labor] controversy”
    and the motive to gain raw leverage in bargaining with the
    employer was “undisclosed” to third parties, id. at 476–77; see
    DirecTV, 837 F.3d at 35.
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    By the same token, there is no finding by the Board in this
    case either that Reed disclosed his subjective motive to pressure
    Oncor into concessions during labor negotiations or that the
    subject matter of Reed’s statements was “connect[ed] to [the]
    ongoing labor dispute.” DirecTV, 837 F.3d at 35. In the
    absence of any such findings, the mere “fortuity of the
    coexistence of a labor dispute” and third-party product
    disparagements does not satisfy the Jefferson Standard
    requirement that Reed’s testimony indicate a nexus to an
    ongoing labor dispute. See DirecTV, 837 F.3d at 35; see also
    Jefferson Standard, 
    346 U.S. at 477
     (no protection where
    product disparagement was “a concerted separable attack
    purporting to be made in the interest of the public rather than in
    that of the employees”). Whereas disparagements linked to a
    specific issue in a labor dispute, e.g., a complaint about how a
    product flaw aggravates customers, whom the workers must
    constantly face, are likely to engage listeners because a win for
    the workers will imply a win for customers, disparagements not
    so linked seem unlikely to enlist listener support—at least if
    they reveal the speakers’ true purpose. It would be strange to
    tempt unions to sail so close to the wind by protecting
    statements that only marginally reveal a speaker’s motivation.
    Finally, the Board found Reed’s testimony protected (aside
    from the Jefferson Standard difficulty) because it “related to
    (and was spurred by)” a union concern about the “safety” of
    employees represented by the union. J.A. 3. The Board
    asserted “Reed’s perception of a fire or electrical-arcing hazard
    to himself and his coworkers,” id. at 4, but in fact the testimony
    makes no mention of worker hazards. In its opinion, the Board
    pivoted from the worker-hazard assertion to a claim that “Reed
    illustrated the effect on employees’ working conditions of the
    increase both in the number of service calls and the frequency
    with which they had to deal with disgruntled customers when
    explaining to them that they must pay to repair or replace their
    burned up meter bases.” J.A. 3–4.
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    There is a lot to tease out here, and the Board has given us
    no help on how to do it. First, as we said, the testimony made
    no detectible reference to worker risks. Second, the Board has
    done nothing to spell out the conditions under which a
    reference to an employer practice that may generate
    “disgruntled” consumers could “indicate” a link to a labor
    dispute. In Jefferson Standard, the handbills in question
    attacked the employer, a local television station, for undue
    reliance on old programs and a complete absence of local
    programming. In context, this was no suggestion of a link to a
    labor dispute, because the labor dispute didn’t revolve around
    those deficiencies. See 
    346 U.S. at 468
    . Similarly, here; so far
    as the collective bargaining was concerned, smart meters were
    not an issue (except as a partial explanation for the parties’
    differing preferences as to contract duration). If the Board is to
    rely on the deep background dispute over smart meters, it will
    have to draw some intelligible lines as to when statements that
    look like simple disparagement can be found, without more, to
    signal to the audience that the remarks are a move in a genuine
    labor dispute.
    The Second Circuit has held that a workers’ report about a
    hospital’s quality of care (including understaffing), submitted
    to a special commission on hospital accreditation, qualified for
    protection notwithstanding Jefferson Standard. Misericordia,
    
    623 F.2d at
    813–15. Because of the commission’s role in
    enforcing state and federal health care standards, the court
    found that the Board “was correct in concluding that the Report
    was similar to protected complaints made to an appropriate
    administrative agency.” 
    Id. at 813
    . Perhaps because of that
    analogy, the court made no effort to consider expressly the
    extent to which the report gave its readers any indication of
    relating to a labor dispute. We note that Misericordia was
    decided long before the Board enunciated its two-pronged
    approach to Jefferson Standard in Mountain Shadows Golf.
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    We vacate and remand to the Board to make clear: the
    burden of proof on Jefferson Standard’s first condition for
    protection of a disparaging statement, its conclusion on the
    merits of that issue, and of course its grounds for both
    conclusions.
    * * *
    Remand would be unnecessary if there were no substantial
    evidence to sustain the Board’s view under Jefferson
    Standard’s second requirement for protection of an employee’s
    disparagement to third parties, namely a finding that his
    testimony was not “maliciously untrue,” J.A. 5 (quoting Valley
    Hospital Medical Center, 
    351 NLRB 1250
    , 1252 (2007)).
    Oncor argues that it was. We disagree and affirm the Board’s
    findings on this issue.
    While the ALJ noted that Reed’s two-minute testimony
    was arguably “imprecise, even careless,” the Board found that
    Reed’s statements did not rise to the level of malicious
    falsehood. J.A. 24. We agree that his testimony certainly
    lacked restraint. By concluding that “I do know a little bit about
    fire and heat, and these [smart meters] are causing damage to
    people’s homes,” J.A. 14, Reed gave the impression that smart
    meters (and only smart meters, not their analog counterparts)
    were causing actual fires capable of significant structural
    damage. In reality, it appears that the problem, to the extent
    there was one, consisted of newer meters not quite fitting
    correctly into older meter bases, with the result that meters
    sometimes sparked, arced, and caused lug nuts or portions of
    the meter base to melt or burn. Oncor contends this problem
    could arise in any new meter, whether analog or digital.
    But Reed was technically right that the heat was damaging
    customer’s “homes” because meter bases, unlike the meters
    themselves, are the property of customers and thus their
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    responsibility to repair and replace. Reed’s opening testimony
    made clear he was addressing smart meters’ tendency to
    “burn[] up the meter bases.” J.A. 14. Before his testimony he
    consulted the local union in Houston and a Dallas County
    assistant fire marshal and received some confirmation of his
    perception that smart meters were overheating more frequently.
    Oncor protests that the smart meters in Houston were of an
    entirely different type than those used in Dallas and that a
    careful review of Reed’s work orders does not bear out his
    intuition that smart meters were any more problematic than
    analog meters. But because Reed’s possible malice is an
    arguable question of fact, we defer to the Board’s weighing of
    the evidence. On this record, there is substantial evidence to
    sustain the Board’s decision. See DirecTV, 837 F.3d at 42
    (according “considerable deference” to the Board’s reasonable
    conclusions on malicious intent).
    * * *
    In addition to finding Oncor liable under § 8(a)(3) for
    interfering with Reed’s protected Union activities, the Board
    held Oncor had also violated § 8(a)(5) for failing to produce
    needed information to bargaining representatives. See 
    29 U.S.C. § 158
    (a)(5). Oncor objects to the three separate findings
    of fault on its part, but we find no error in the Board’s rulings.
    Oncor does not dispute the relevance of the first two
    requests for information. On December 18, 2012, the Union
    requested “[a]ll documents reviewed and/or created or
    considered in connection with [Oncor’s] investigation” of the
    veracity of Reed’s testimony. J.A. 1548–51 (emphasis added).
    Oncor contends that after searching its records it found no help-
    line records, service orders, lawsuits or claims reporting
    burning smart meters. The ALJ found Oncor in violation
    because it did not produce the records and orders it had
    “reviewed or considered” so that the Union could make its own
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    determination of whether they related to burned smart meters.
    As the ALJ noted, Oncor never raised an objection as to why it
    should not produce those records in their entirety.
    On March 25, 2013, the Union requested information
    “pertaining directly to [Reed’s] discharge, possible disparate
    treatment, and/or records that might substantiate the testimony
    he gave.” J.A. 1560. Oncor objects that because the grievance
    was going to arbitration, the request for information amounted
    to pre-arbitration discovery to which the Union was not
    entitled. The ALJ reasoned that although “there is no right to
    pretrial discovery when a grievance has been referred to
    arbitration,” J.A. 21 (citing California Nurses Ass’n, 
    326 NLRB 1362
     (1998)), and parties are not permitted to seek
    information on their opponents’ arbitral strategy, see 
    id.,
    employers remain under the obligation to produce relevant
    information as timely requested by bargaining representatives.
    The ALJ sanctioned Oncor for failing to meet the latter burden.
    Finally, in a case virtually unrelated to this one (but
    involving some of the same cast of characters), the Union
    sought information from Oncor regarding the termination of an
    employee, Samuel Goodson, and the promotion of a
    comparator employee, Eddie Lopez. Oncor refused to provide
    Lopez’s personnel file for the period after Lopez’s promotion,
    arguing it was irrelevant once Lopez was no longer a member
    of the same unit as Goodson. The Board overruled the ALJ to
    sanction Oncor for its refusal. The incident for which Goodson
    was fired occurred on May 13, 2013. Lopez was promoted on
    May 26, while Goodson was disciplined on July 16. The Union
    requested both employees’ files on July 25. The Board
    concluded that the relevance of Lopez’s file as a comparator to
    Goodson’s should have been obvious to Oncor even after
    Lopez’s promotion.
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    While producible information “must be relevant, the
    threshold for relevance is low.” DaimlerChrysler Corp. v.
    NLRB, 
    288 F.3d 434
    , 443 (D.C. Cir. 2002) (internal citation and
    quotation marks omitted). “The Supreme Court has described
    the relevance standard as a liberal, ‘discovery-type’ standard.”
    
    Id.
     (quoting NLRB v. Acme Indus. Co., 
    385 U.S. 432
    , 437
    (1967)). And the issue of relevance “is, in the first instance, a
    matter for the NLRB, and the Board’s conclusions are given
    great weight by the courts.” Oil, Chem. & Atonic Workers v.
    NLRB, 
    711 F.2d 348
    , 360 (D.C. Cir. 1983). Under this
    deferential standard, we do not find that the Board was
    unreasonable in its decision to sanction Oncor’s failure to
    produce Union-requested information.
    * * *
    As a final ambitious alternative, Oncor asks that we
    dismiss the General Counsel’s complaint because he did not
    have authority to issue it. The Supreme Court recently ruled
    that the official who initiated the complaint against Oncor,
    Acting General Counsel Lafe Solomon, served in violation of
    the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, 
    5 U.S.C. §§ 3345
     et seq.
    (“FVRA”). NLRB v. SW General, Inc., 
    137 S. Ct. 929
     (2017).
    Shortly after our court had reached the same conclusion in the
    case affirmed by the Supreme Court, SW General, Inc. v.
    NLRB, 
    796 F.3d 67
    , 83 (D.C. Cir. 2015), the duly appointed
    General Counsel Richard F. Griffin Jr. sent Oncor a notice of
    ratification, which indicated that he had reviewed the record
    and independently decided to pursue the complaint. J.A. 169.
    We need not decide on the effectiveness of the ratification,
    however, because we find our review blocked by the
    untimeliness of Oncor’s objection, raised in the form of a
    motion filed with the Board about 18 months after it had
    already filed its exceptions to the ALJ’s decision and after
    General Counsel Griffen’s notice of ratification apparently
    gave Oncor the idea. In SW General, after reviewing the trade-
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    offs inherent in applications of the de facto officer doctrine
    (between the needs for providing adequate remedies for actions
    taken invalidly and for enabling the executive branch to
    undertake prompt cures, see also Andrade v. Lauer, 
    729 F.2d 1475
    , 1499 (D.C. Cir. 1984)), we found the exception there
    timely, observing, “We address the FVRA objection in this case
    because the petitioner raised the issue in its exceptions to the
    ALJ decision,” but we “doubt[ed] that an employer that failed
    to timely raise an FVRA objection—regardless whether
    enforcement proceedings are ongoing or concluded—will
    enjoy the same success.” SW General, 796 F.3d at 83. In view
    of the delay here, we find the claim barred.
    * * *
    Oncor’s petition is granted in part and denied in part. The
    Board’s decision is vacated and remanded for further
    proceedings, specifically to clarify the burdens of proof in cases
    under Jefferson Standard and articulate whether and how those
    burdens were met here. The Board’s cross-petition for
    enforcement is accordingly denied in part. Its petition to
    enforce its order on the requests for information is granted.
    So ordered.