Ramirez v. Dhs ( 2020 )


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  • Case: 19-1534    Document: 36      Page: 1   Filed: 09/15/2020
    United States Court of Appeals
    for the Federal Circuit
    ______________________
    ROBERTO RAMIREZ,
    Petitioner
    v.
    DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY,
    Respondent
    ______________________
    2019-1534
    ______________________
    Petition for review of an arbitrator’s decision by Don B.
    Hays.
    ______________________
    Decided: September 15, 2020
    ______________________
    JESSICA HORNE, Office of General Counsel, National
    Treasury Employees Union, Washington, DC, argued for
    petitioner. Also represented by LARRY JOSEPH ADKINS,
    GREGORY O'DUDEN.
    ERIN MURDOCK-PARK, Commercial Litigation Branch,
    Civil Division, United States Department of Justice, Wash-
    ington, DC, argued for respondent. Also represented by
    ETHAN P. DAVIS, ROBERT EDWARD KIRSCHMAN, JR., LOREN
    MISHA PREHEIM.
    ______________________
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    Before NEWMAN, BRYSON, and REYNA, Circuit Judges.
    Opinion for the court filed by Circuit Judge REYNA.
    Concurring Opinion filed by Circuit Judge BRYSON.
    REYNA, Circuit Judge.
    The petitioner, Roberto Ramirez, seeks review of an ar-
    bitrator’s final award sustaining his removal from his job
    as a Customs and Border Protection Officer for the Depart-
    ment of Homeland Security. Mr. Ramirez contends that
    the arbitrator lacked the authority to order another psychi-
    atric evaluation after stating, in an interim award, that the
    prior evaluations failed to preponderantly establish that
    Mr. Ramirez was unfit for duty. Mr. Ramirez further con-
    tends that he was denied due process when the agency re-
    fused to provide him with the records of the written
    psychological assessments underlying his psychiatric eval-
    uations. We hold that the arbitrator did not exceed his au-
    thority by seeking additional evidence after issuing his
    interim award. We also hold, however, that Mr. Ramirez
    was entitled to a meaningful opportunity to review and
    challenge the written assessments underlying his adverse
    psychiatric evaluations. Thus, we vacate the final award
    and remand for further proceedings.
    BACKGROUND
    Up until his removal in 2016, Roberto Ramirez served
    as a Customs and Border Protection (“CBP”) Officer for the
    Department of Homeland Security (“the Agency”). The role
    required him to carry a service firearm and to remain med-
    ically qualified to do so.
    The events leading to Mr. Ramirez’s termination began
    on the morning of January 26, 2014, when shortly after he
    left the house following a heated argument, his wife called
    the police and reported that he had cocked his service
    weapon and pointed it at her head. Mr. Ramirez denied
    the allegation.     The police later concluded that the
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    allegations were “[u]nfounded,” and Mr. Ramirez was not
    charged with any crime. J.A. 63.
    Investigation and Removal
    In response to the incident, the Agency temporarily re-
    voked Mr. Ramirez’s authority to carry a firearm and re-
    quired him to complete a fitness-for-duty evaluation, which
    included a psychiatric evaluation. His first evaluation was
    inconclusive. The examining psychiatrist, Brian Skop, re-
    ported that he obtained no evidence that Mr. Ramirez was
    “unable to safely, efficiently, and reliably perform all of the
    duties without restrictions.” J.A. 70. At the same time,
    however, Dr. Skop could not “confidently say” that
    Mr. Ramirez was “safe to carry a government issued
    weapon” because there was evidence that he was not “to-
    tally forthcoming” during the assessment.
    Id. After receiving Dr.
    Skop’s report, the Agency ordered a
    second evaluation by a different psychiatrist, Larry
    Nahmias.     Dr. Nahmias was also unable to assess
    Mr. Ramirez’s dangerousness or his ability to safely carry
    a government-issued weapon. J.A. 77–78. Nonetheless,
    Dr. Nahmias recommended that Mr. Ramirez be “re-
    stricted from any weapons carrying position” based on his
    “lack of full cooperativeness” during his evaluation.
    J.A. 77–78.
    In reaching their medical opinions, Dr. Skop and Dr.
    Nahmias each relied on results from a written assessment
    that Mr. Ramirez completed as part of each evaluation.
    These assessments were versions of the Minnesota Multi-
    phasic Personality Inventory (“MMPI”), 1 a test frequently
    used to aid in the diagnosis of mental disorders, and each
    1   As part of Dr. Skop’s evaluation, Mr. Ramirez com-
    pleted the MMPI-2 version of the assessment, and as part
    of Dr. Nahmias’s evaluation, Mr. Ramirez completed the
    MMPI-2 RF version.
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    assessment consisted of a series of true-or-false questions
    about Mr. Ramirez’s emotions, attitudes, thinking, and be-
    haviors. Neither Dr. Skop nor Dr. Nahmias interpreted
    the MMPI assessments himself. Instead, the assessments
    were tabulated and interpreted by a third-party clinical
    psychologist, Richard Frederick, who compiled a report for
    the psychiatrists’ review. According to Dr. Skop’s and Dr.
    Nahmias’s reports, Dr. Frederick interpreted the results of
    each assessment as “invalid” due to “extreme defensive-
    ness”:
    On the MMPI-2, Dr. Frederick indicates that Of-
    ficer Ramirez was extremely defensive when he
    completed the questionnaire. He denied having
    any significant psychological problems. He wants
    to be seen as highly emotionally controlled, highly
    virtuous, tough and effective, and gregarious. He
    did not cooperate in the assessment by providing
    an open and forthcoming account of his emotions,
    attitudes, behavior, or thinking. Consequently, his
    responses are not interpretively useful. The test is
    invalid due to extreme defensiveness.
    J.A. 68 (Dr. Skop’s report); see also J.A. 76 (Dr. Nahmias’s
    report) (“The interpretation of his MMPI-2 RF by Dr. Fred-
    erick is that it is invalid because he was extremely defen-
    sive and closed when he selected his responses. He did not
    cooperate in the assessment by providing an open and
    forthcoming account of his attitudes, emotions, behavior or
    thinking.”).
    Both Dr. Skop’s and Dr. Nahmias’s conclusions that
    Mr. Ramirez had been uncooperative during his evalua-
    tions were based on Dr. Frederick’s interpretation of the
    MMPI assessments. Other than Dr. Frederick’s findings,
    neither Dr. Skop nor Dr. Nahmias identified any other
    ground in their reports for concluding that Mr. Ramirez
    was evasive or uncooperative. Nor did their in-person ex-
    aminations reveal any indication that he suffered from a
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    mental condition that compromised his judgment or his
    ability to safely handle a firearm. Moreover, there is no
    dispute that Mr. Ramirez answered every question of his
    MMPI assessments as requested; Dr. Frederick’s finding of
    defensiveness was based solely on the answers
    Mr. Ramirez selected for the questions.
    Based on Dr. Nahmias’s report, the Agency determined
    that Mr. Ramirez was no longer fit for duty and proposed
    his removal. J.A. 80–83. Specifically, the deciding officer
    relied on Dr. Nahmias’s recommendation that Mr. Ramirez
    be restricted from any weapons-carrying position. J.A. 81.
    The officer further considered that Mr. Ramirez was “given
    a second opportunity to be more forthcoming in [his] eval-
    uation” and that Dr. Nahmias nonetheless found
    Mr. Ramirez to be “extremely defensive” and not fully co-
    operative in the second assessment.
    Id. The Agency pro-
     vided Mr. Ramirez with copies of Dr. Skop’s and
    Dr. Nahmias’s reports but did not provide him access to the
    MMPI assessments or their interpretation by Dr. Freder-
    ick.
    After several months, during which Mr. Ramirez con-
    tested the proposed removal orally and in writing through
    his union representative, the Agency issued a decision let-
    ter officially removing Mr. Ramirez. The decision again
    cited Dr. Nahmias’s finding that Mr. Ramirez was defen-
    sive and uncooperative in his psychiatric evaluation.
    J.A. 86. Pursuant to the collective bargaining agreement
    between his union and the Agency, Mr. Ramirez elected to
    challenge his removal through arbitration rather than
    through an appeal to the Merit Systems Protection Board.
    Arbitration
    The parties presented the arbitrator with the following
    questions for resolution: (1) whether the Agency had just
    cause to remove Mr. Ramirez and (2) if not, the appropriate
    remedy.
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    The arbitrator held two hearings during which the par-
    ties presented evidence and live testimony. Before the
    hearings, counsel for Mr. Ramirez requested from the
    Agency copies of Mr. Ramirez’s MMPI assessments and Dr.
    Frederick’s tabulation and interpretation of the scores.
    J.A. 90–92. The Agency denied the requested records on
    the grounds that it had never obtained them from Dr. Fred-
    erick.
    Mr. Ramirez’s counsel then objected to the Agency’s in-
    troduction of evidence during the hearing that relied on the
    MMPI assessments, including the reports of Dr. Skop’s and
    Dr. Nahmias’s psychiatric evaluations, on the ground that
    Mr. Ramirez had been denied access to the test records.
    J.A. 55, 90. The arbitrator reserved judgment on the objec-
    tion and allowed the Agency to present its evidence at the
    hearing. J.A. 55, 90, 92–93.
    Mr. Ramirez testified during the hearings that he had
    been candid in responding to the MMPI assessments and
    did not know why his responses had been interpreted as
    uncooperative. J.A. 119–120. He also offered the testi-
    mony of his own expert witness, Vittorio Tomas Puente,
    who administered another MMPI assessment to Mr.
    Ramirez and interpreted his scores as within a range typi-
    cally seen among law enforcement personnel. J.A. 191–
    192. Based on his evaluation, Dr. Puente opined that Mr.
    Ramirez was fit for duty.
    Following the hearings, the arbitrator issued an In-
    terim Award, which ordered Mr. Ramirez to undergo yet
    another psychiatric evaluation and “defer[red] all aspects
    associated with a final decision” pending that evaluation.
    J.A. 34. In concluding that another examination was nec-
    essary, the arbitrator declined to credit Dr. Puente’s testi-
    mony but found that the conclusions of the Agency’s
    medical experts fell “‘technically’ short of preponderantly
    proving that CBPO Ramirez is currently unfit for CBP ser-
    vice.” J.A. 33. At the same time, the arbitrator explained
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    he was not prepared to take the risk of ordering
    Mr. Ramirez’s reinstatement because the totality of the ev-
    idence indicated that he had caused the medical uncer-
    tainty by deliberately masking his actual mental state.
    J.A. 33–34. Thus, the arbitrator deferred his decision
    pending the availability of a “clear and conclusive opinion”
    regarding Mr. Ramirez’s psychological fitness for duty
    based on a new evaluation. J.A. 34. The arbitrator further
    provided that if the new evaluation showed that
    Mr. Ramirez remained uncooperative, then the arbitrator
    was “prepared to draw a material and adverse inference”
    against Mr. Ramirez when reaching a final decision.
    J.A. 34–35. The Interim Award did not address
    Mr. Ramirez’s objections to the Agency’s medical evidence
    based on its failure to produce the MMPI records.
    Mr. Ramirez appealed the Interim Award to this court,
    challenging the arbitrator’s jurisdiction to order another
    evaluation. This court dismissed the appeal for lack of ju-
    risdiction because the award was not final for purposes of
    judicial review. Ramirez v. Dep’t of Homeland Sec., No. 18-
    1371 (Fed. Cir. Feb. 22, 2018) (per curiam), J.A. 121–124.
    Thereafter, in July 2018, Mr. Ramirez reported for an-
    other fitness-for-duty evaluation, which was conducted by
    another psychiatrist, Donna Yi. As part of the evaluation,
    Mr. Ramirez completed another MMPI assessment, which
    was reviewed by the same psychologist, Dr. Frederick, who
    again interpreted the results as invalid “because of high
    defensiveness.” J.A. 140. Based on this interpretation and
    a review of the full record, Dr. Yi concluded that “a deter-
    mination of the employee’s potential dangerousness to him-
    self or others cannot be made and I cannot declare that he
    is safe to return to the workplace.” J.A. 145.
    Following Dr. Yi’s evaluation, Mr. Ramirez requested
    from the Agency a copy of all records related to the evalua-
    tion, including the new MMPI assessment. The Agency
    again denied the request on the ground that it did not
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    receive the test records from Dr. Yi. J.A. 125–126.
    Mr. Ramirez challenged the Agency’s response in a submis-
    sion to the arbitrator. J.A. 55–56. He also renewed his
    earlier objections to the Agency’s medical evidence and re-
    quested that the arbitrator order the Agency to produce the
    MMPI records.
    Id. Without ordering another
    hearing, the arbitrator is-
    sued a “Final Award” affirming Mr. Ramirez’s removal,
    this time concluding that the Agency had established by a
    preponderance of the evidence that Mr. Ramirez was unfit
    to meet the conditions of employment. J.A. 42–46. In
    reaching his decision, the arbitrator determined that “Dr.
    Yi’s professional conclusions . . . , in our judgment, essen-
    tially confirmed the disqualifying conclusions previously
    expressed by the agency and other psychiatric examiners.”
    J.A. 43–45. The arbitrator also denied Mr. Ramirez’s re-
    quest to order the Agency to produce the records of his
    MMPI assessments and declined to reopen the evidentiary
    record for a new hearing.
    Id. Mr. Ramirez petitioned
    for review by this court. We
    have jurisdiction under 5 U.S.C. §§ 7121(f), 7703(b)(1) and
    28 U.S.C. § 1295(a)(9).
    DISCUSSION
    As with decisions of the Merit Systems Protection
    Board, this court may overturn an arbitrator’s ruling only
    if it is arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, contrary
    to law, unsupported by substantial evidence, or obtained
    without following procedures required by law. 5 U.S.C.
    § 7703(c); 5 U.S.C. § 7121(f); Do v. Dep’t of Hous. & Urban
    Dev., 
    913 F.3d 1089
    , 1093 (Fed. Cir. 2019); Brook v. Cor-
    rado, 
    999 F.2d 523
    , 526 (Fed. Cir. 1993). On this appeal,
    Mr. Ramirez contends (1) that the arbitrator exceeded his
    authority by ordering a new psychiatric evaluation and re-
    considering the merits of Mr. Ramirez’s removal after issu-
    ing the Interim Award and (2) that the Agency’s denial of
    access to the records of the MMPI assessments deprived
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    Mr. Ramirez of due process. We address these arguments
    in turn.
    I
    Mr. Ramirez contends that the arbitrator’s jurisdiction
    over his case terminated once the arbitrator had evaluated
    the parties’ evidence and stated that the expert opinions
    proffered by the Agency failed to satisfy its burden of es-
    tablishing just cause by a preponderance of the evidence.
    At that point, according to Mr. Ramirez, the arbitrator was
    obligated to order reinstatement and lacked authority to
    take any other action in the case. We disagree.
    Mr. Ramirez’s argument relies primarily on the doc-
    trine of functus officio, Latin for “task performed,” which
    dictates that once an arbitrator has rendered a final deci-
    sion on a submitted issue, he has no further authority, ab-
    sent agreement by the parties, to redecide that issue. See
    20 WILLISTON ON CONTRACTS § 56:100 (4th ed., May 2020
    update); see also, e.g., United Brotherhood of Carpenters &
    Joiners of Am. v. Tappan Zee Constructors, LLC, 
    804 F.3d 270
    , 277 (2d Cir. 2015); Kennecott Utah Copper Corp. v.
    Becker, 
    186 F.3d 1261
    , 1270–1271 & n.4 (10th Cir. 1999);
    Teamsters Local 312 v. Matlack, Inc., 
    118 F.3d 985
    , 991 (3d
    Cir. 1997). Traditionally, the doctrine served to protect the
    neutral and reasoned judgments reached by arbitrators
    during their time as “ad hoc judges” in a case from any
    amendments motivated by ex parte influence that may
    arise when the arbitrators resume their roles in private life
    at the end of a case. See 
    Matlack, 118 F.3d at 991
    –92. More
    recently, courts have questioned the continued applicabil-
    ity of these concerns, particularly in the context of labor
    disputes, and have crafted exceptions and limitations to
    the functus officio doctrine to more narrowly protect the ar-
    bitrator’s reasoning about a decision, the distribution of an
    award, and the parties’ expectations about their rights and
    liabilities.
    Id. at 992.
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    This court has not previously considered the question
    of when an interim award by an arbitrator constitutes a
    final decision that triggers functus officio. Other jurisdic-
    tions considering the question have held that the finality of
    an otherwise interim award depends at least in part on
    whether the award states that it is final and whether the
    arbitrator so intended. See Legion Ins. Co. v. VCW, Inc.,
    
    198 F.3d 718
    , 720 (8th Cir. 1999) (holding that for purposes
    of the functus officio doctrine, “[w]hether the award indi-
    cates that [it] is final and whether the arbitrator intended
    the award to be final are factors in determining if an arbi-
    tration award is final” (second alteration in original) (quot-
    ing Local 36, Sheet Metal Works Int’l Ass’n v. Pevely Sheet
    Metal Co., 
    951 F.2d 947
    , 949 (8th Cir. 1992))); Bosack v.
    Soward, 
    586 F.3d 1096
    , 1103 (9th Cir. 2009) (adopting the
    rule that “an interim award may be deemed final for func-
    tus officio purposes if the award states it is final, and if the
    arbitrator intended the award to be final”). We agree with
    our sister circuits that an arbitrator’s intent, as expressed
    in the language of the arbitral award, should guide our as-
    sessment of whether an interim award is a final decision
    that terminates the arbitrator’s authority over the issues
    addressed in the award. When an arbitrator makes clear
    that an interim award reflects only a preliminary assess-
    ment of the evidence and retains jurisdiction to render a
    final award based on additional evidence, there is little con-
    cern that new findings in a subsequent award would defeat
    the parties’ reasonable expectations about their rights and
    liabilities. In such cases, the arbitrator also retains his role
    as a neutral adjudicator pending the issuance of the final
    award, alleviating the potential for intervening ex parte in-
    fluence. Thus, we hold that an arbitrator does not lose the
    authority to further consider a submitted issue by an-
    nouncing an interim finding when the award expressly de-
    fers a final decision on that issue pending the availability
    of additional evidence.
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    Neither of the decisions relied on by Mr. Ramirez sup-
    port a different rule. In U.S. Department of Transporta-
    tion, FAA, Northwest Mountain Region, Renton,
    Washington, and National Air Traffic Controllers Associa-
    tion, the Federal Labor Relations Authority found that an
    arbitrator lacked the authority to reverse its earlier deci-
    sion that an agency had violated its collective bargaining
    agreement. 64 F.L.R.A. 823, 825–26 (2010). There, how-
    ever, the arbitrator had issued a cease and desist order
    based on his finding of a violation, thus making clear that
    he had reached his final decision on the merits.
    Id. at 825.
     The arbitrator had also expressly limited his remaining ju-
    risdiction to resolving the question of remedy.
    Id. at 826.
     Similarly, in Butterkrust Bakeries v. Bakery, Confectionery
    and Tobacco Workers International Union, AFL-CIO, Local
    No. 361, the Eleventh Circuit held that an arbitrator had
    no remaining authority to order an employee’s conditional
    reinstatement because the arbitrator had unequivocally
    concluded that the employee’s disciplinary record “justified
    the termination.” 
    726 F.2d 698
    , 699-700 (11th Cir. 1984).
    In both cases, it was clear from the arbitrator’s decision
    that he had reached a decisive determination on the ques-
    tion presented and had thereby terminated his own juris-
    diction on that question.
    Here, in contrast, the Interim Award expressly “de-
    ferr[ed] all aspects” of the arbitrator’s final decision, in-
    cluding the question of just cause. J.A. 34. While the
    arbitrator opined that the medical evidence presented by
    the Agency fell short of satisfying its burden, he did so in
    the context of explaining the need for additional evidence
    to resolve the medical uncertainty over Mr. Ramirez’s fit-
    ness for duty, including whether it was appropriate to draw
    an adverse inference from the invalidity of his MMPI
    scores. The Interim Award was therefore not a final deci-
    sion that terminated the arbitrator’s authority to further
    consider the Agency’s justification for Mr. Ramirez’s re-
    moval. For these reasons, we will not, as Mr. Ramirez
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    requests, treat the findings in the Interim Award as final
    and give effect to them by ordering his reinstatement. 2
    II
    We next consider whether Mr. Ramirez was afforded
    due process in challenging the basis for his removal in light
    of the Agency’s refusal to provide him with access to the
    records of his MMPI assessments.
    In general, public employees possess a constitutionally
    protected property right in their employment and are enti-
    tled to due process at each stage of their removal proceed-
    ings. See Cleveland Bd. of Educ. v. Loudermill, 
    470 U.S. 532
    , 538 (1985); Stone v. Fed. Deposit Ins. Corp., 
    179 F.3d 1368
    , 1374–76 (Fed. Cir. 1999). “The essential require-
    ments of due process . . . are notice and an opportunity to
    respond.” 
    Loudermill, 470 U.S. at 546
    . The precise re-
    quirements of due process in each case are not “wooden ab-
    solutes” and must be judged according to the demands of
    the particular situation. See Morrissey v. Brewer, 
    408 U.S. 471
    , 481 (1972); Ferguson v. Thomas, 
    430 F.2d 852
    , 856
    (5th Cir. 1970).
    In determining the process due to an individual in a
    given context, a court must consider (1) the private interest
    that will be affected by the official action; (2) the risk of an
    2  We decline to address here the separate question of
    whether, apart from the finality of the findings in the In-
    terim Award, the arbitrator exceeded his authority by or-
    dering Mr. Ramirez to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.
    While Mr. Ramirez asserts in passing that the new evalu-
    ation was “something the parties did not ask for or author-
    ize,” Appellant’s Br. 15–16, he fails to present any
    substantive arguments for why an arbitrator lacks the au-
    thority to order a new evaluation concerning an employee’s
    fitness for duty under the terms of the parties’ collective
    bargaining agreement and applicable regulations.
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    erroneous deprivation of such interest through the proce-
    dures used, and the probable value, if any, of additional or
    substitute procedural safeguards; and (3) the Govern-
    ment’s interest, including the function involved and the fis-
    cal and administrative burdens that the additional or
    substitute procedural requirement would entail. Mathews
    v. Eldridge, 
    424 U.S. 319
    , 335 (1976). At the same time,
    the courts have recognized that one “relatively immutable”
    principle of due process is that “where governmental action
    seriously injures an individual, and the reasonableness of
    the action depends on fact findings, the evidence used to
    prove the Government’s case must be disclosed to the indi-
    vidual so that he has an opportunity to show that it is un-
    true.” Greene v. McElroy, 
    360 U.S. 474
    , 496 (1959); Hicks
    v. Comm’r of Soc., 
    909 F.3d 786
    , 797 (6th Cir. 2018); see
    also ASSE Int’l, Inc. v. Kerry, 
    803 F.3d 1059
    , 1076 (9th Cir.
    2015) (acknowledging that “fundamental fairness—the
    touchstone to determining whether a plaintiff received
    due process—requires that a party against whom an
    agency has proceeded be allowed to rebut evidence offered
    by the agency if that evidence is relevant.” (citations and
    internal quotation marks omitted)).
    This court has not previously decided whether and
    when due process requires a government agency to provide
    its employee with the records of psychological testing un-
    derlying an adverse fitness-for-duty evaluation that leads
    to the employee’s removal. In comparable circumstances,
    the Fifth Circuit has held that when a government agency
    removes its employees based on drug charges established
    through urinalysis, due process requires that the employ-
    ees have access to samples of the urinalysis for independ-
    ent verification. Banks v. Fed. Aviation Admin., 
    687 F.2d 92
    , 94–96 (5th Cir. 1982). In Houston Federation of Teach-
    ers, Local 2415 v. Houston Independent School District, the
    district court relied on the reasoning in Banks in conclud-
    ing that a school district violates the due process rights of
    its teachers when it bases retention decisions on the results
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    of a proprietary assessment without providing the teach-
    ers with any opportunity to review and assess the accuracy
    and validity of the testing data and methodology. 251 F.
    Supp. 3d 1168, 1178–80 (S.D. Tex. 2017).
    We reach a similar conclusion when we assess the evi-
    dence at issue in this case in light of the Mathews factors
    and the “immutable” principle of due process announced in
    Greene. Here, the record makes plain that the Agency’s re-
    moval of Mr. Ramirez was based on Dr. Nahmias’s recom-
    mendation that he be restricted from carrying a firearm.
    That recommendation was in turn based primarily, if not
    exclusively, on Dr. Frederick’s interpretation of the MMPI
    results as invalid for defensiveness. Thus, the soundness
    of Dr. Frederick’s interpretation was critical to the ques-
    tion of whether the Agency had just cause to remove
    Mr. Ramirez. Dr. Nahmias’s recommendation, and the
    Agency’s removal decision, rested on the assumption that
    Dr. Frederick tabulated the scores correctly and that he ap-
    plied the appropriate criteria in interpreting the scores.
    The only way for Mr. Ramirez to verify or challenge those
    assumptions was to independently review the tests and
    their interpretation by Dr. Frederick.
    Against the critical role of the MMPI records for pro-
    tecting against wrongful deprivation, the Agency made no
    showing that it would have been unduly burdensome to ob-
    tain and produce those records. There is no record that the
    Agency even inquired into the possibility of doing so here.
    While in some instances, “the government’s failure to pre-
    serve and produce such relevant and material evidence
    might be excusable upon a showing of good faith and rea-
    sonable effort,” the fact that the Agency made “no attempt”
    to obtain the evidence at issue undermines any such con-
    clusion in this case. See 
    Banks, 687 F.2d at 96
    . As the
    Fifth Circuit recognized in Banks, it may be difficult at
    times to “mark an exact balance between relevance and the
    attendant procedural burdens in an administrative pro-
    ceeding”; however, “even the most rudimentary standards
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    of due process” would afford an employee the opportunity
    to access and meaningfully challenge the critical and dis-
    positive pieces of evidence asserted against him.
    Id. In denying Mr.
    Ramirez’s request to order production
    of the MMPI records, the arbitrator relied on the following
    reasoning: (1) that the records were not in the Agency’s cus-
    tody, and thus the Agency had no regulatory or contractual
    obligation to produce them; (2) that the Agency itself did
    not directly review or consider the records in making its
    removal decision; (3) that Mr. Ramirez had the opportunity
    to cross-examine Dr. Nahmias and to present testimony
    from his own expert; and (4) that two other psychiatrists,
    Dr. Skop and Dr. Yi, generally concurred with
    Dr. Nahmias’s findings. J.A. 43–45. None of these grounds
    undermines Mr. Ramirez’s due process rights to the rec-
    ords at issue.
    First, as a government entity defending its decision to
    deprive an employee of protected employment, the
    Agency’s obligation to provide Mr. Ramirez with the evi-
    dence underlying its decision stems from more than its reg-
    ulatory and contractual obligations for collective
    bargaining with his union. 3 Rather, the minimum require-
    ments are constitutional. In Banks, the court rejected the
    FAA’s contention that “since it was not in possession of the
    samples, it was under no duty to preserve or order the con-
    trol of the samples.” 
    Banks, 687 F.2d at 95
    . The fact that
    the Agency contracted for the testing and relied upon it,
    3   While the arbitrator did not identify any specific
    “[r]egulations” that he reviewed in concluding the Agency
    was not obligated to produce the MMPI records, J.A. 43,
    the Agency had based its arguments on 5 U.S.C. § 7114(b),
    which provides that as part of good faith negotiations with
    a union, the agency need only provide the union repre-
    sentative with relevant information “normally maintained
    by the agency in the regular course of business.” J.A. 58.
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    together with the foreseeable importance of the evidence at
    issue to the employee’s defense, obligated the Agency to
    make the evidence available for independent examination
    by the employee.
    Id. Second, the fact
    that the Agency relied indirectly ra-
    ther than directly on the evidence at issue did not excuse
    the Agency from making the evidence available to
    Mr. Ramirez. As the Sixth Circuit recognized in Hicks, an
    agency’s determination “depends on fact findings beyond
    the ultimate factual question at issue, and due process pro-
    tects a person’s right to contest” the basis for the prelimi-
    nary findings that underlie the agency’s ultimate
    
    determination. 909 F.3d at 798
    (internal quotation marks
    omitted). Here, the Agency’s conclusion that Mr. Ramirez
    was unfit for duty depended on the preliminary finding
    that he was defensive and uncooperative in completing his
    MMPI assessments. The Agency cannot shield the evi-
    dence underlying that finding from production by simply
    relaying it through the report of another expert.
    Third, the opportunity to cross-examine Dr. Nahmias
    regarding his reliance on the MMPI results did not satisfy
    Mr. Ramirez’s right to independently review and challenge
    the results directly. Even if Dr. Nahmias could be ques-
    tioned on his understanding of the general reliability of
    MMPI assessments, he did not oversee Dr. Frederick’s in-
    terpretation of Mr. Ramirez’s MMPI assessments and thus
    could not opine as to whether Dr. Frederick tabulated the
    responses accurately or interpreted them according to ap-
    propriate criteria—questions that are critical to the propri-
    ety of the Agency’s removal decision in this case. Similarly,
    while Mr. Ramirez’s own expert, Dr. Puente, could admin-
    ister and interpret a new MMPI assessment according to
    his own criteria, his interpretation could not address—and
    indeed rendered all the more material—the question of
    what methods and standards Dr. Frederick applied in
    reaching the interpretations that were relied upon by the
    Agency’s experts and the arbitrator.
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    Fourth, these concerns were not alleviated by the con-
    curring opinions of the three evaluating psychiatrists. All
    of them relied on the interpretation of Dr. Frederick for
    their analysis, and none of them independently assessed
    his work. The repeated evaluations did nothing to dimin-
    ish the likelihood of a fundamental error in Dr. Frederick’s
    analysis.
    In contending that Mr. Ramirez was nonetheless af-
    forded adequate process, the Agency raises one additional
    argument not addressed by the arbitrator: that
    Mr. Ramirez could have tried to obtain the records himself
    from Dr. Nahmias or Dr. Frederick. We are unpersuaded.
    While in certain contexts, an individual who fails to avail
    himself of established procedures for obtaining evidence is
    precluded from later complaining about his lack of access
    to that evidence, see, e.g., Richardson v. Perales, 
    402 U.S. 389
    , 405 (1971), there was no reasonable expectation here
    that Mr. Ramirez would have been able to obtain the MMPI
    records without the Agency’s cooperation.             Neither
    Dr. Nahmias nor Dr. Frederick had a treating relationship
    with Mr. Ramirez; they were engaged for the purpose of
    responding to the Agency’s inquiries. J.A. 96. Moreover,
    the Agency points to no process by which Mr. Ramirez
    could have compelled records from these third parties in
    time for independent review in advance of a hearing. Cf.
    CVS Health Corp. v. Vividus, LLC, 
    878 F.3d 703
    , 706–07
    (9th Cir. 2017) (holding that a district court is not permit-
    ted under section 7 of the Federal Arbitration Act, 9 U.S.C.
    § 7, to enforce an arbitrator’s order compelling pre-hearing
    document discovery from a non-party to the arbitration).
    Thus, the mere fact that Mr. Ramirez could have asked Dr.
    Nahmias and Dr. Frederick to provide the MMPI records,
    with no way of obligating them to so, does not relieve the
    Agency of its obligation to produce the evidence that
    formed the basis for its removal decision.
    For these reasons, the arbitrator legally erred in con-
    cluding that Mr. Ramirez lacked a due process right to
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    review and challenge the records of the MMPI assessments
    underlying the Agency’s removal decision.        Because
    Mr. Ramirez was denied this right during arbitration, the
    Final Award must be vacated, and the case remanded to
    provide Mr. Ramirez with the process he was owed.
    We do not, however, agree with Mr. Ramirez that we
    must also vacate the Agency’s removal decision and order
    reinstatement with back pay because he was constitution-
    ally entitled to receive his MMPI records before his re-
    moval. For one, there is nothing in the record indicating
    that Mr. Ramirez pressed his request for his MMPI records
    during pre-removal agency proceedings. The parties also
    did not submit for arbitration the question of whether, in-
    dependent of the merits of the Agency’s decision, deficien-
    cies in the Agency’s pre-removal process constituted a basis
    for overturning his removal. Nor is there any other indica-
    tion in the record on appeal that Mr. Ramirez briefed or
    otherwise asserted this argument before the arbitrator.
    Rather, the record only shows that he objected to the
    Agency’s introduction of evidence relying on the MMPI rec-
    ords when he had no access to them and requested an order
    for the Agency to produce them for independent review.
    We are not persuaded that the Agency’s failure to pro-
    vide Mr. Ramirez with his MMPI records before his termi-
    nation constituted a constitutional violation that cannot be
    remedied through adequate post-termination procedures.
    The Supreme Court has recognized that post-termination
    proceedings may adequately protect a government em-
    ployee’s interest in tenured employment. 
    Loudermill, 470 U.S. at 546
    –547. When a full post-termination hearing
    is available, pre-termination proceedings “need not defini-
    tively resolve the propriety of the discharge,” and should
    only serve as “an initial check against mistaken decisions—
    essentially, a determination of whether there are reasona-
    ble grounds to believe that the charges against the em-
    ployee are true and support the proposed action.”
    Id. at 545–46.
    This includes oral or written notice of the
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    charges against him, an explanation of the employer’s evi-
    dence, and an opportunity for the employee to present his
    side of the story.
    Id. To require more
    than this before ter-
    mination “would intrude to an unwarranted extent on the
    government’s interest in quickly removing an unsatisfac-
    tory employee.”
    Id. at 546;
    see also 
    Stone, 179 F.3d at 1375
    –76. While we have held that certain due process de-
    ficiencies in pre-removal proceedings, such as ex parte com-
    munications, warrant vacating the removal proceedings in
    their entirety, such violations must be “so substantial and
    so likely to cause prejudice that no employee can fairly be
    required to be subjected to a deprivation of property under
    such circumstances.” 
    Stone, 179 F.3d at 1377
    .
    Here, before Mr. Ramirez was terminated, he was no-
    tified of the Agency’s proposal to remove him based on the
    conclusions of his psychiatric evaluations, and he had re-
    ceived the reports of these evaluations, which informed
    him that they relied on MMPI results that neither he nor
    the Agency had reviewed first-hand. That information ex-
    plained the basis for the Agency’s decision and allowed him
    to challenge that decision by pointing out ways in which
    the underlying evidence may have been unreliable. While
    he was ultimately entitled to independently review the
    MMPI results with the assistance of his own expert to test
    their validity and reliability, the fact that he was unable to
    do so during the preliminary pre-removal proceedings is
    not “so substantial and so likely to cause prejudice” as to
    independently justify vacating the removal decision, so
    long as he is ultimately afforded an opportunity to do so
    during post-removal arbitration. 
    Stone, 179 F.3d at 1377
    .
    For these reasons, we hold that when an agency relies,
    directly or indirectly, on the results of a psychological as-
    sessment in justifying an employee’s removal, the agency
    must provide the employee with a meaningful opportunity
    to review and challenge the data, analysis, and results of
    that assessment. Because Mr. Ramirez was denied this op-
    portunity, the Final Award must be vacated.
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    We do not address here the question of what remedies
    would be acceptable should the parties discover, upon re-
    mand, that the relevant records are no longer available.
    That would be an assessment to be made by the arbitrator
    in the first instance, should the need arise. While, as the
    concurrence notes, the considerations set forth in Califor-
    nia v. Trombetta, 
    467 U.S. 479
    (1984), may provide some
    guidance on the requirements and remedies of due process
    where relevant evidence is destroyed, there are critical dis-
    tinctions between this case and Trombetta.
    First, in concluding that the missing breath samples in
    Trombetta were unlikely to be exculpatory, the Court relied
    on the fact that the breathalyzer used in the analysis had
    been widely validated for accuracy in assessing blood alco-
    hol levels and that the error rates were known to be low.
    
    See 467 U.S. at 490
    . Here, there is no evidence in the rec-
    ord that the validity scales of the MMPI test have ever been
    scientifically validated to show how often, and under what
    circumstances, “defensiveness”-based invalidity is a relia-
    ble indicator of willful uncooperativeness that warrants an
    adverse inference as to a person’s psychiatric fitness.
    Second, in Trombetta, the defendants had access to the
    most pertinent evidence concerning the most likely sources
    of error in the breath analysis: for calibration errors, in-
    spection of the machine and calibration logs; for external
    radio and chemical interference, investigation of external
    sources of radio waves and the dieting state of the defend-
    ants; for operator error, cross-examination of the police of-
    ficers who administered the test.
    Id. Here, the record
     indicates that one of the most likely sources of error in
    Dr. Frederick’s interpretation is the possibility that he
    used a validity range that did not account for the typical
    scores found among law enforcement officers. Yet, Mr.
    Ramirez had no way to determine what numerical criteria
    Dr. Frederick applied in reaching his interpretations of
    MMPI responses at issue here.
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    Third, Trombetta was decided in a context where a re-
    trial with adequate government disclosures was not possi-
    ble, and a recognized due process violation could only be
    remedied by barring further prosecution of a crime or sup-
    pressing the state’s most probative evidence—“troubling
    choices” that would likely allow an alleged crime to go
    unprosecuted and a potentially dangerous individual to go
    free.
    Id. at 486–87.
    Here, the basis for Mr. Ramirez’s re-
    moval was not any alleged crime or misconduct, but failure
    to maintain a condition of employment. Reinstatement in
    this case does not preclude the Agency from ensuring that
    its weapons-carrying employees are fit for duty. If the
    MMPI records are unavailable and the arbitrator deter-
    mines that reinstatement is the only acceptable remedy,
    then the Agency can reevaluate Mr. Ramirez’s fitness im-
    mediately upon reinstatement. At that point, the Agency
    can remove him again with adequate process, if the evi-
    dence warrants doing so, without ever putting a gun back
    in his hand.
    CONCLUSION
    We have considered the parties’ remaining arguments
    and find them to be either waived or without merit. For
    the reasons discussed, we vacate the arbitrator’s Final
    Award and remand for further proceedings. On remand,
    the arbitrator must order the Agency to provide
    Mr. Ramirez or his designated agent with access to the rec-
    ords of his MMPI assessments, including the assessments
    themselves, his responses, and Dr. Frederick’s interpreta-
    tions. The arbitrator must also provide Mr. Ramirez with
    an opportunity to present new evidence and testimony at a
    hearing concerning these records, and all evidence must be
    considered before issuing a new award.
    VACATED AND REMANDED
    COSTS
    No costs.
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    United States Court of Appeals
    for the Federal Circuit
    ______________________
    ROBERTO RAMIREZ,
    Petitioner
    v.
    DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY,
    Respondent
    ______________________
    2019-1534
    ______________________
    Petition for review of an arbitrator's decision by Don B.
    Hays.
    ______________________
    BRYSON, Circuit Judge, concurring.
    I agree with the court that the arbitrator’s interim rul-
    ing did not constitute a final decision that barred the arbi-
    trator from conducting further review in the matter before
    him. I also agree with the court that this case must be re-
    manded to the arbitrator for further proceedings on the due
    process issue. While I agree with much of what Judge
    Reyna has written in his thoughtful opinion for the court,
    I would couch the remand directive in somewhat different
    terms.
    The court concludes that Mr. Ramirez was denied due
    process when he was unable to obtain access to the MMPI-
    2 tests that he took during each of his fitness for duty ex-
    aminations and to the scoring of those tests done by an
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    independent expert. 1 The remedy, according to the court,
    is to remand for the arbitrator to order the production of
    the test results and the scoring of the tests done by the ex-
    pert. I agree with much of the court’s analysis, but I disa-
    gree with the court’s remand order in one respect.
    In my view, the remand order should require the
    agency to ascertain whether the test results and scoring
    reports are available, and to direct the agency to attempt
    to obtain those items if they are available. If the agency
    cannot obtain those materials despite bona fide efforts to
    do so, however, I would treat those materials as unavaila-
    ble and would analyze the due process issue accordingly.
    In that event, in view of the particular circumstances of
    this case, I would not regard the unavailability of the tests
    and the scoring results as necessarily having deprived Mr.
    Ramirez of a fair opportunity to respond to the case against
    him.
    I
    The agency arranged for three different psychiatrists
    to examine Mr. Ramirez. In addition, the agency arranged
    for a fourth psychiatrist to review certain of the records in
    the case and to offer a further opinion. The principal ques-
    tion posed to those experts was whether, in light of a do-
    mestic incident involving the alleged use of a weapon by
    Mr. Ramirez, the experts could conclude that Mr. Ramirez
    should be qualified to carry a weapon in his official position
    as a Customs and Border Protection Officer. Each of the
    experts declined to state that it was safe for Mr. Ramirez
    to carry a weapon, and each did so based in large part on a
    1   At different times during the course of his psycho-
    logical examinations, Mr. Ramirez took the MMPI-2 and
    the MMPI-2 RF, which is a shorter form of the MMPI-2.
    The two are referred to here as simply the MMPI or the
    MMPI tests.
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    conclusion that Mr. Ramirez was not candid in answering
    questions about himself when he took the MMPI tests.
    In reaching that conclusion, each of the psychiatrists
    relied on the scoring of the MMPI tests Mr. Ramirez took
    during each of the sessions with the three psychiatrists.
    The scorer was Dr. Richard Frederick, a licensed clinical
    psychologist. Dr. Frederick reviewed Mr. Ramirez’s an-
    swers to each of the three MMPI tests and concluded in
    each case that the test was invalid. The tests were invalid,
    according to Dr. Frederick, because Mr. Ramirez’s test re-
    sponses showed that he was not candid but instead was de-
    fensive in the answers he gave. Dr. Frederick did not
    testify at the hearing, and his scoring reports were not of-
    fered into evidence. Rather, the substance of Dr. Freder-
    ick’s scoring reports was presented to the arbitrator
    through the written reports of the three psychiatrists who
    examined Mr. Ramirez and the testimony of one of those
    psychiatrists, Dr. Larry Nahmias.
    Based on the psychiatrists’ findings, the agency refused
    to authorize Mr. Ramirez to carry a service weapon. Be-
    cause his position as a Customs and Border Protection Of-
    ficer required him to be qualified to carry a weapon, the
    agency removed him from his position.
    At the hearing before the arbitrator, the agency de-
    fended its failure to produce copies of the MMPI tests taken
    by Mr. Ramirez and the scoring reports for those tests on
    the ground that the agency did not have those materials in
    its possession and therefore was not obligated to produce
    them. It is true that the psychiatrists who examined Mr.
    Ramirez and administered the tests to him, as well as the
    expert who scored the tests, were not agency employees.
    But all of them conducted their assessments of Mr.
    Ramirez pursuant to contracts that were ultimately funded
    by the agency. The agency therefore appeared to be in a
    better position to obtain the materials related to the MMPI
    tests from the psychiatrists who administered the tests
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    than was Mr. Ramirez. A bona fide request from the
    agency for those materials may well have resulted in their
    production. Instead, the agency simply stood on its posi-
    tion that because it did not have the materials in its pos-
    session, it had no obligation to produce them, or even to
    take steps to attempt to obtain them.
    In its brief, the agency reasserts this position. In addi-
    tion, it argues that the MMPI tests and the scoring results
    were not of critical importance to the agency’s decision that
    Mr. Ramirez should not be deemed qualified to serve in his
    position. But neither argument is convincing.
    A
    Contrary to the agency’s argument, the MMPI test re-
    sults were not simply one factor among many that bore on
    the psychiatrists’ conclusion that Mr. Ramirez was uncoop-
    erative during his examinations. Rather, the test results,
    as analyzed by Dr. Frederick, were given substantial
    weight by each of the psychiatrists.
    Dr. Nahmias, the agency’s principal witness at the
    hearing before the arbitrator, testified that he was unable
    to determine whether Mr. Ramirez had a mental illness or
    personality disorder because Mr. Ramirez “wasn’t fully co-
    operative” and “was not forthcoming, and an important
    part of my evaluation of that, being the MMPI.” J.A. 104. 2
    Dr. Nahmias added that as to any possible mental illness
    on Mr. Ramirez’s part, “I couldn’t come to a conclusion
    2   Dr. Nahmias administered the MMPI to Mr.
    Ramirez. In his report, Dr. Nahmias stated that when in-
    terpreting Mr. Ramirez’s test responses, Dr. Frederick had
    concluded that the test was “invalid because he was ex-
    tremely defensive and closed when he selected his re-
    sponses. He did not cooperate in the assessment by
    providing an open and forthcoming account of his attitudes,
    emotions, behavior or thinking.” J.A. 76.
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    because of his defensiveness about mental illness.” J.A.
    104. Dr. Nahmias further explained that he could not de-
    termine that Mr. Ramirez could safely carry a weapon “pri-
    marily” because of Mr. Ramirez’s “defensiveness and . . . .
    unwillingness to complete the MMPI-2 RF” and “secondar-
    ily” because of Mr. Ramirez’s “decision to present himself
    in the best possible light, his unwillingness to really talk
    about himself and his own issues with feelings, except to
    say he didn’t have any problems.” J.A. 105.
    Neither of the other two examining psychiatrists testi-
    fied at the hearing, but each submitted a report on which
    the agency relied in its presentation to the arbitrator. The
    first, Dr. Brian Skop, reported that Dr. Frederick had indi-
    cated that Mr. Ramirez was
    extremely defensive when he completed the ques-
    tionnaire. He denied having any significant psy-
    chological problems. He wants to be seen as highly
    emotionally controlled, highly virtuous, tough and
    effective, and gregarious. He did not cooperate in
    the assessment by providing an open and forthcom-
    ing account of his emotions, attitudes, behavior, or
    thinking. Consequently, his responses are not in-
    terpretively useful. The test is invalid due to ex-
    treme defensiveness.
    J.A. 68. Based in part on that assessment of Mr. Ramirez’s
    responses on the MMPI test, Dr. Skop concluded that he
    was not able to obtain evidence of dangerousness. He
    added that “there was evidence that the employee was not
    totally forthcoming during the assessment.” J.A. 69. Be-
    tween that and Mr. Ramirez’s wife’s unwillingness to dis-
    cuss the details of the incident that led to the referral, Dr.
    Skop concluded, like Dr. Nahmias, that he could not
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    confidently say that Mr. Ramirez “is not a potential threat
    to self or others.”
    Id. 3
          The third psychiatrist to examine Mr. Ramirez was Dr.
    Donna Yi. Like Drs. Skop and Nahmias, Dr. Yi stated that
    in light of Mr. Ramirez’s “limited willingness to accurately
    disclose clinical information about his thoughts, feelings,
    and behavior,” and his wife’s unwillingness to discuss the
    events that led to the evaluation, she could not find that
    Mr. Ramirez had the “ability to use proper judgment and
    execute quick and sound decisions in law enforcement sit-
    uations to protect himself, the public, and other law en-
    forcement personnel.” J.A. 145.
    Dr. Yi administered the MMPI test to Mr. Ramirez and
    relied on Dr. Frederick’s scoring of that test. In her report,
    she included what appears to be a direct quotation from Dr.
    Frederick’s report regarding Mr. Ramirez’s MMPI results:
    Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory-
    2    Restructured       Form    (MMPI-2       RF)—
    interpretation (blind) by Richard I. Frederick, PhD:
    Approach to the Examination: He answered all
    the items. He consistently endorsed items of simi-
    lar content in similar ways. He was highly defen-
    sive and guarded when he selected his responses.
    He characterized himself as a person of exceptional
    3   The agency arranged for another psychiatrist, Dr.
    Marilyn Price, to review Dr. Skop’s report, along with other
    records in the case. Although Dr. Price did not examine
    Mr. Ramirez, she noted Dr. Skop’s observation that Mr.
    Ramirez was “extremely defensive when he completed” the
    MMPI test. Dr. Price reached the same conclusion as Dr.
    Skop, that there was “insufficient information to form an
    opinion about [Mr. Ramirez’s] fitness to perform the full
    range of duties safely and reliably from a mental health
    perspective.” J.A. 157–59.
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    virtue. For example, he reported that he always
    tells the truth, never swears, never gossips, is
    never vain, never procrastinates, likes everyone he
    meets, never acts rashly, and has manners at home
    as good as his manners in public. He did report
    that he has a substance abuse problem. Otherwise,
    he reported that he has no significant mental
    health problems. Because of his highly defensive
    approach to the test, his responses do not likely ac-
    curately reflect his current attitudes, behavior, or
    emotional condition and are therefore not interpre-
    tively useful.
    Summary: Invalid for interpretation because
    of high defensiveness.
    J.A. 140.
    B
    The agency contended before the arbitrator, and con-
    tinues to argue here, that the agency was not in possession
    of the MMPI records and that it was therefore not required
    to produce them. Contrary to the agency’s argument, how-
    ever, the agency’s potential access to those materials was
    plainly superior to that of Mr. Ramirez. The agency’s ar-
    gument that it was not required to produce what was not
    in its possession ignores the fact that it may have had ef-
    fective control over those materials by virtue of the fact
    that the agency had contracted for the psychiatrists’ ser-
    vices. 4 Given that contractual relationship, the agency
    cannot contend that it need not produce the records simply
    4   The record reflects that the agency procured the
    services of the psychiatrists through an intermediary, a
    company known as PsyBar. J.A. 130. But while the agency
    used a third party to retain the psychiatrists, the agency
    was the ultimate party responsible for obtaining those ser-
    vices.
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    because it does not have actual physical possession of them.
    By analogy, in civil discovery, a party cannot avoid produc-
    ing records simply because it lacks actual physical posses-
    sion of them, as long as it has the right to gain access to the
    records from a third party. See Searock v. Stripling, 
    736 F.2d 650
    , 653 (11th Cir. 1984) (holding that “control is the
    test” for whether documents need to be produced, where
    control “is defined not only as possession, but as the legal
    right to obtain the documents requested upon demand”);
    see generally 8B Charles Alan Wright et al., Federal Prac-
    tice & Procedure § 2210 (3d ed. 2010) (“control” of materials
    sought in discovery means the legal right or practical abil-
    ity to obtain them). The same commonsense principle
    should apply in the due process context as well.
    In light of the significance attributed to the MMPI rec-
    ords by the psychiatrists and the agency’s potential access
    to those records, the agency should be required to make a
    good-faith effort to obtain those materials from the experts
    who administered and evaluated the tests. If the materials
    can be produced, the arbitration should be reopened to al-
    low Mr. Ramirez to make whatever use he can of those ma-
    terials.
    II
    If it turns out, however, that the MMPI materials have
    been destroyed or are otherwise unavailable notwithstand-
    ing a good-faith request for their production by the agency,
    the issue becomes not whether the agency has failed to take
    reasonable steps to produce records that are material to
    Mr. Ramirez’s defense, but whether, in the absence of those
    records, Mr. Ramirez has been denied a fair opportunity to
    challenge the agency’s evidence against him.
    On that issue, the Supreme Court’s decision in Califor-
    nia v. Trombetta, 
    467 U.S. 479
    (1984), provides guidance.
    In that case, the Court held that due process “does not re-
    quire that law enforcement agencies preserve breath sam-
    ples in order to introduce the results of breath-analysis
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    tests at trial” where the defendants had “alternative means
    of demonstrating their innocence.”
    Id. at 490–91. 5
    If there
    were adequate alternative means by which Mr. Ramirez
    could challenge the evidence against him in the arbitration
    proceeding, the unavailability of the MMPI tests and the
    scoring reports would not deprive Mr. Ramirez of due pro-
    cess. 6
    5    Even in criminal cases, the Supreme Court has
    held that, in the absence of bad faith, due process is not
    violated by the destruction of evidence unless the evidence
    would “both possess an exculpatory value that was appar-
    ent before the evidence was destroyed, and be of such a na-
    ture that the defendants would be unable to obtain
    comparable evidence by other reasonably available
    means.” 
    Trombetta, 467 U.S. at 489
    ; see also Arizona v.
    Youngblood, 
    488 U.S. 51
    , 56–57 (1988); Olszewski v. Spen-
    cer, 
    466 F.3d 47
    , 57 (1st Cir. 2006) (Dyk, J., sitting by des-
    ignation). For purposes of this case, I focus on the “other
    reasonably available means” element addressed in Trom-
    betta.
    6   In his brief, Mr. Ramirez focused his due process
    challenge on the hearing before the arbitrator, not on the
    pre-termination removal hearing before the agency. In oral
    argument, counsel for Mr. Ramirez asserted that he was
    denied due process at both stages. Setting aside Mr.
    Ramirez’s failure to explicitly challenge the adequacy of
    the pre-termination hearing in his brief, I agree with the
    court that his challenge to the pre-termination procedure
    fails, because he had an opportunity to respond in the pre-
    termination hearing before the agency and was subse-
    quently afforded a full adversarial post-termination hear-
    ing before the arbitrator. See Cleveland Bd. of Ed. v.
    Loudermill, 
    470 U.S. 532
    , 547–48 (1985) (“all the process
    that is due is provided by a pretermination opportunity to
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    In this case, several factors shed light on that question.
    First, Mr. Ramirez was not deprived of an opportunity to
    challenge Dr. Frederick’s assessments of the MMPI tests.
    Mr. Ramirez did so by having his own expert conduct and
    score an MMPI test. Mr. Ramirez’s expert then testified at
    the hearing that the test results did not show that Mr.
    Ramirez was uncooperative and defensive. Although the
    arbitrator did not find the testimony of Mr. Ramirez’s ex-
    pert persuasive, Mr. Ramirez was not barred, either by the
    arbitrator’s ruling or otherwise, from introducing evidence
    as to his state of mind when taking the MMPI tests.
    Second, Mr. Ramirez was able to cross-examine Dr.
    Nahmias, the principal agency witness, at the hearing. In
    so doing, he was able to point out that in several respects
    Dr. Nahmias’s report and testimony were favorable to Mr.
    Ramirez. From that testimony, it might have been inferred
    that Dr. Frederick, who did not examine Mr. Ramirez, was
    mistaken in his assessment of Mr. Ramirez’s cooperative-
    ness when taking the MMPI tests, or that any defensive-
    ness on Mr. Ramirez’s part was limited to the test and did
    not otherwise interfere with the psychiatrists’ ability to as-
    sess his mental stability.
    Third, Mr. Ramirez testified at the hearing that he was
    not willfully uncooperative in his sessions with the psychi-
    atrists. The arbitrator was thus given an opportunity to
    weigh Mr. Ramirez’s credibility in asserting that he was
    cooperative both when taking the MMPI tests and when
    otherwise interacting with the psychiatrists.
    Fourth, as noted above, the psychiatrists’ reports—and
    particularly the report of Dr. Yi—appear to contain close
    paraphrases, if not direct quotes, from Dr. Frederick’s scor-
    ing reports on the MMPI tests. Depending on whether the
    respond, coupled with [adequate] post-termination admin-
    istrative procedures”).
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    psychiatrists confirm that their reports contain the es-
    sence, or the very words, used by Dr. Frederick, the ab-
    sence of Dr. Frederick’s actual reports may be immaterial.
    These factors make this case more like California v.
    Trombetta and less like Banks v. FAA, 
    687 F.2d 92
    (5th Cir.
    1982), and Houston Federation of Teachers, Local 2415 v.
    Houston Independent School District, 
    251 F. Supp. 3d 1168
     (S.D. Tex. 2017), on which Mr. Ramirez relies.
    In Trombetta, the defendants were stopped on suspi-
    cion of driving while intoxicated and were given breath-
    analysis tests. The tests produced positive results, and the
    defendants were prosecuted. The breath samples were de-
    stroyed after testing and were not available for testing by
    the defendants, who contended that the absence of the
    breath samples denied them the right to contest the evi-
    dence against them and thus violated due process.
    The Supreme Court rejected that argument. Among
    other points, the Court noted that even without access to
    the destroyed breath samples, the defendants had alterna-
    tive means to challenge the accuracy of the breath analysis
    results: they were allowed to examine the testing ma-
    chines; they had opportunities to show that other factors
    may have affected the test results; and they were allowed
    to cross-examine the machine operators to show operator
    error. 
    Trombetta, 467 U.S. at 490
    .
    By contrast, in Banks and Houston Federation of
    Teachers, the unavailability of evidence that resulted in the
    employees being fired was devastating to the employees’
    efforts to defend themselves. In Banks, the employees were
    fired when their urine samples tested positive for cocaine,
    and the urine samples were destroyed after testing. The
    Fifth Circuit held that the laboratory tests “were the only
    meaningful evidence resulting in the discharges” and that
    “challenging the laboratory reports was probably the only
    way the controllers could succeed in their 
    appeal.” 687 F.2d at 94
    . Because of the importance of the samples, the
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    court held that the government had a duty to ensure the
    preservation of the samples for the defendants’ independ-
    ent examination if the agency intended to rely upon them.
    Id. at 95.
    In Houston Federation of Teachers, the school district
    contracted with a software company to develop a proprie-
    tary algorithm that would be used to evaluate teachers’ im-
    pact on student performance. When the school district
    terminated certain teachers for ineffective performance
    based primarily on that algorithm, the teachers requested
    access to the algorithm to challenge their terminations.
    The software company, however, refused to reveal the al-
    
    gorithm. 251 F. Supp. 3d at 1177
    . The court found that
    the teachers were denied due process because, without ac-
    cess to the algorithm, there was no effective way for the
    teachers to challenge the removal decisions.
    Id. at 1178– 80.
    Unlike in Banks and Houston Federation of Teachers,
    it is by no means clear that the disputed evidence at issue
    in this case was destroyed or is otherwise unavailable.
    While Dr. Nahmias stated in response to a question during
    the hearing that he would be “reluctant” to provide MMPI
    results to an employee, J.A. 237, he explained that his re-
    luctance was because he did not wish to provide the MMPI
    results to an untrained individual who would not under-
    stand them. Yet medical records are routinely produced in
    litigation, under appropriate safeguards, and it would not
    be difficult to arrange for the MMPI records to be produced
    to a medical professional representing Mr. Ramirez.
    Even if the MMPI evidence has been destroyed or can-
    not be obtained, Banks and Teachers do not compel
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    reversal of the arbitrator’s decision in this case. 7 Due pro-
    cess would require reversal only if the unavailability of the
    MMPI evidence constitutes a denial of access to evidence
    that has effectively disabled Mr. Ramirez from challenging
    the agency’s presentation against him. Accordingly, on re-
    mand, if the arbitrator determines that the MMPI evidence
    is unavailable, I would require the arbitrator to assess
    whether, notwithstanding the unavailability of that evi-
    dence, Mr. Ramirez still had sufficient means to defend
    against the agency’s case for removing him.
    For the foregoing reasons, I concur with the decision to
    vacate and remand in this case but would frame the re-
    mand order somewhat differently than the court has done.
    7    In addition, Banks was decided before Trombetta,
    in which the Supreme Court held that due process “does
    not require that law enforcement agencies preserve breath
    samples in order to introduce the results of breath-analysis
    tests at trial” where the defendants had “alternative means
    of demonstrating their 
    innocence.” 467 U.S. at 490
    –91.
    The Supreme Court’s decision in Trombetta counsels
    against applying a broad interpretation of the reasoning in
    Banks to find a due process violation here. Id.; see also
    Grimsrud v. Dep’t of Transp., 
    902 F.3d 1364
    , 1366–69 (Fed.
    Cir. 2018) (Lourie, J., concurring in denial of rehearing en
    banc).