People v. Krebs ( 2019 )


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  •         IN THE SUPREME COURT OF
    CALIFORNIA
    THE PEOPLE,
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    v.
    REX ALLAN KREBS,
    Defendant and Appellant.
    S099439
    San Luis Obispo County Superior Court
    No. F283378
    November 21, 2019
    Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye authored the opinion of the
    Court, in which Justices Chin, Corrigan, Liu, Cuéllar, Kruger,
    and Groban concurred.
    PEOPLE v. KREBS
    S099439
    Opinion of the Court by Cantil-Sakauye, C. J.
    A jury convicted defendant Rex Allan Krebs of the first
    degree murder of Rachel Newhouse and Aundria Crawford (Pen.
    Code, § 187),1 one count of kidnapping Newhouse to commit rape
    and one count of kidnapping Crawford to commit rape and
    sodomy (§ 209, subd. (b)), one count of rape by force of Newhouse
    and two counts of rape by force of Crawford (§ 261, subd. (a)(2)),
    one count of sodomy by force of Crawford (§ 286, subd. (c)), and
    one count of first degree burglary (§ 459). The jury found true
    the special circumstance allegations that defendant committed
    multiple murders, that the murder of Newhouse was committed
    while engaged in kidnapping and rape, and that the murder of
    Crawford was committed while engaged in kidnapping, rape,
    and sodomy. (§ 190.2, subd. (a)(3), (17).) Defendant admitted
    prior convictions for rape, sodomy, assault to commit rape,
    residential burglary, and felony grand theft. The court found
    the prior convictions to be true.
    Following the penalty phase of the trial, the jury returned
    verdicts of death for each of the two murder convictions. The
    trial court denied defendant’s motion to modify the death
    penalty verdict and his motion for a new trial. (§ 190.4, subd.
    (e).) The court sentenced defendant to death for each of the
    murder convictions. It also sentenced him to a total of 166 years
    1
    All further statutory references are to the Penal Code
    unless otherwise indicated.
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    to life with the possibility of parole for the other offenses and
    enhancements, a sentence it stayed pursuant to section 654.
    This appeal is automatic. (§ 1239, subd. (b).) We affirm the
    judgment in its entirety.
    I. BACKGROUND
    A. Evidence at the Guilt Phase
    1. Investigation prior to defendant’s confession
    Rachel Newhouse, a student at California Polytechnic
    State University at San Luis Obispo, was last seen on November
    12, 1998, at about 11:30 p.m., in Tortilla Flats, a restaurant and
    bar in San Luis Obispo. Blood drops were found an hour or so
    later on the Jennifer Street Bridge, a pedestrian bridge that
    Newhouse would have crossed if she walked home from Tortilla
    Flats. Samples taken from blood recovered from the bridge and
    a nearby parking lot matched blood samples from Newhouse’s
    parents.
    Aundria Crawford, a student at Cuesta College who lived
    in San Luis Obispo, spoke with a friend by telephone until 2:46
    a.m. on March 11, 1999.2 Crawford missed an appointment and
    failed to respond to texts on March 11, and an investigation
    begun the next day failed to locate her.
    Defendant’s parole officer, David Zaragoza, thought there
    were similarities between the description in a newspaper article
    of the abduction of Crawford and defendant’s prior crimes. In
    mid-March, he visited defendant at his residence. When
    defendant came out to meet Zaragoza, he was walking as if in
    pain, and he was holding his rib area. Defendant stated that he
    2
    All further date references are to the year 1999 unless
    otherwise specified.
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    had hurt his ribs when he fell off a wall into some firewood, but
    Zaragoza was suspicious because he did not see any injuries to
    defendant’s hands or arms. Zaragoza reported his suspicions to
    the lead investigator of the Crawford abduction.
    Two days later, Zaragoza and other agents conducted a
    parole search of defendant’s residence. Among the items seized
    was an eight-ball keychain. Zaragoza also found BBs. One of
    defendant’s parole conditions was that he was not allowed to
    possess objects resembling a firearm. The next day, Zaragoza
    seized a BB gun at defendant’s place of employment and caused
    defendant to be arrested and transported to the San Luis Obispo
    County jail.
    Larry Hobson, an investigator with the County of San Luis
    Obispo District Attorney’s Office, interviewed defendant a day
    after his arrest. At this point, defendant had been arrested for
    violating his parole by possessing a simulated firearm and
    drinking alcohol. When Hobson asked defendant if he had any
    idea why he was being interviewed, defendant stated he
    assumed it related to the disappearance of the two victims,
    because defendant was on parole for rape and had a prior sex
    offense. He did not recall where he was the day Newhouse
    disappeared. However, defendant said he stayed home all night
    on March 10, the night of Crawford’s disappearance. At about
    8:00 a.m. the next day, he walked to a woodpile, and his
    landlord’s daughter, Debra Wright, stopped and talked to him
    briefly. He said he had slipped on some lattice work and fallen
    into the woodpile, injuring his ribs.
    Defendant denied ever driving down Crawford’s street or
    seeing the victims except on fliers posted around San Luis
    Obispo. Hobson asked where defendant had acquired the eight-
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    ball keychain found during the parole search, and he said he
    found it on the yard while in Soledad prison in 1996. In response
    to Hobson’s telling defendant that he might have to question
    him again, defendant said he was willing to do anything to prove
    that he was not responsible for the abductions, and he gave
    Hobson permission to search his vehicle and his residence.
    A few days later, a search of defendant’s truck disclosed
    duct tape, binoculars, and a bottle of stain remover. Also, some
    of the carpet had been cut out, and one of the jump seats was
    missing.
    In early April, Hobson interviewed defendant a second
    time. Defendant gave an account of his whereabouts on March
    11 that was partly inconsistent with his prior statements. When
    asked why someone would identify him or his truck in the
    vicinity of Crawford’s house, he stated he had driven down
    Crawford’s street two or three times. With respect to the eight-
    ball keychain that defendant claimed to have found in 1996,
    Hobson asserted that it had not been manufactured until 1998.
    Defendant responded, “ ‘that’s strange.’ ”
    Five days later, a search of defendant’s home led to the
    discovery of the jump seat from his truck. The seat had blood
    stains on it.
    On April 21, Hobson interviewed defendant a third time.3
    Defendant again had difficulty recalling what he did on March
    11. Hobson and defendant discussed defendant’s prior sex
    3
    In this appeal, defendant challenges the trial court’s
    admission of his various statements made after this interview
    under Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 
    384 U.S. 436
     (Miranda). We
    discuss the circumstances of the interviews in more detail in
    part II.B.1, post.
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    crimes, and defendant admitted that he fantasized about
    abducting women but claimed to have “worked through” that.
    Hobson then showed defendant the eight-ball keychain and said
    it belonged to Crawford. Defendant denied the keychain was
    the one that had been found in his home. Hobson told defendant
    that the police had found the missing jump seat, and that there
    were traces of Newhouse’s blood on it. Defendant then stopped
    talking for about 15 minutes while Hobson kept up a monologue.
    Hobson asked defendant to take him to the victims, and
    defendant stated he did not want to help Hobson at that time.
    Hobson eventually returned defendant to the county jail.
    2. Defendant’s confession
    On April 22, Hobson returned to the jail, and correctional
    officers brought defendant to an employee breakroom to meet
    him. Some minutes into the conversation, defendant asked
    what Hobson wanted him to say, and Hobson said he wanted the
    truth. Defendant responded, “okay” and said that he wanted to
    talk somewhere else. Before transporting defendant from the
    jail and after giving him Miranda warnings, Hobson asked
    defendant if he was responsible for the disappearance and death
    of Newhouse and Crawford. Defendant responded, “yes.”
    Hobson then took defendant to the police department, where the
    ensuing interrogation was recorded. The jury was shown the
    videotape, during which defendant described what he had done
    to the victims.4
    4
    Video recordings of interviews conducted on April 22 and
    April 27 were played for the jury, and transcripts of these two
    interviews were provided to assist the jury. The jury was also
    shown a video recording made on April 22, which depicted
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    Defendant stated that starting at about 8:30 p.m. on
    November 12, 1998, he drank six or seven shots of whiskey. At
    about midnight, he saw Newhouse walking down a street in San
    Luis Obispo. He told Hobson he had a premonition that
    Newhouse would walk across a bridge, so he parked his truck
    and walked onto the bridge. As Newhouse walked behind him
    on the bridge, defendant turned around and hit her on the jaw
    with his fist. When she screamed, defendant picked her up and
    threw her down on her back. Then he hit her again, knocking
    her unconscious, and dragged her by her hair down the stairs.
    At this point, she was bleeding from the back of her head and
    about her face. When he reached his truck, he put the still-
    unconscious Newhouse behind the front passenger seat in the
    area where the jump seats were located. He got rope from the
    bed of his truck and tied her hands behind her back. He then
    drove along railroad tracks for about 200 yards, where he
    stopped and used the same rope to tie her legs. Finally, he
    reached into her pants, ripped off her panties, stuffed them in
    her mouth, and tied the rope through her mouth.
    Beside the road that led to defendant’s residence was an
    abandoned cabin. Defendant drove to the cabin, carried
    Newhouse inside, removed her pants, and raped her. She was
    conscious by this time, and was cursing at him. After he raped
    her, he re-tied her legs, hogtied her legs to her hands, and
    stuffed her panties back into her mouth. Then he drove up to
    his residence, leaving Newhouse in the cabin. He returned to
    the cabin 15 or 20 minutes later and found Newhouse dead. He
    defendant pointing out the victims’ burial sites and items at his
    house. In addition, Hobson testified about his subsequent
    interviews of defendant in late April and early May.
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    told Hobson that when he left her, the rope he had tied around
    her neck was not in a position that would have prevented her
    from breathing. Hobson asked whether defendant was saying
    that Newhouse’s struggling had caused her strangulation. He
    responded, “That or her legs relaxed or something, I don’t know.”
    Defendant told Hobson that he panicked, put her body behind
    the cabin, and went home.
    The next morning, defendant drove his truck past a spot
    where he had been cutting wood and dug a grave. He returned
    home and, at some point, cleaned blood from his truck. When
    he was unable to remove all of the blood, he cut out portions of
    carpet, threw them in a dumpster, and put the stained jump seat
    in his home. Sometime between 11:00 p.m. and midnight, he
    put Newhouse’s body in the back of his truck, drove to where he
    had dug a grave, and buried it.
    Turning to the Crawford case, defendant stated that the
    first time he saw her he was driving by her house as she was
    getting out of her car. He followed her back to the house, got out
    of his truck, and looked at her through a small gap at the bottom
    of the curtains on a window. He left after a few minutes.
    Over the following days, defendant twice more returned to
    Crawford’s house to watch her. Each time he was intoxicated.
    Finally, defendant returned for a third time, knowing that he
    was going to abduct her. Again intoxicated, defendant was not
    certain what time he went to her house, but it could have been
    as late as 2:00 or 3:00 a.m.
    Defendant found a small bathroom window that was not
    latched, removed the screen, and crawled feet first into a shower
    stall. He hurt his ribs going through the window. Defendant
    told Hobson that he was “getting ready to go out the bathroom
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    door. The only thing I’m thinking of is leaving right then” when
    Crawford opened the bathroom door, wearing a T-shirt and
    underwear. He punched her, knocking her back against the
    wall, and kept punching her, causing her to lose consciousness.
    He hogtied her with a rope he had brought with him and put
    duct tape across her mouth. He went upstairs and got two
    pillowcases. Although he was wearing pantyhose over his head,
    he put a pillowcase over Crawford’s head and tied it on so she
    could not identify him. He put CDs and some of Crawford’s
    clothes in the other pillowcase. He also took a VCR, videotapes
    of movies, and her keys with the eight-ball keychain, which he
    put in his truck.
    When defendant returned to the house, Crawford had
    regained consciousness and was struggling. He put her in his
    truck and went back to her house to clean up the blood. Then
    he drove her to the abandoned cabin, left her on a couch, drove
    home, and drank more whiskey. As it was starting to get light,
    he drove to the woodpile to chop some wood so that his landlord’s
    daughter, Debra Wright, would see him as she went to work.
    After Wright left, defendant brought Crawford from the cabin to
    his residence. He removed some of the rope, but he left her
    hands tied together and kept the pillowcase and duct tape in
    place. He raped and sodomized Crawford on the bed, tied her
    feet back together, went to the kitchen for more liquor and
    coffee, and fell asleep on the couch. When he woke up an hour
    or so later, he replaced the pillowcase with a bandanna blindfold
    and removed the duct tape. She asked him why he was doing
    this, asked him to stop, pleaded with him to let her go, and cried.
    He did not say anything to her, and raped her over a coffee table.
    Leaving her hands tied and her legs untied, he clothed her in a
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    sweatshirt and sweatpants he had brought from her home. He
    put her back in his bed and went to sleep on the couch.
    Defendant was awakened by a noise and saw Crawford
    coming out of the bedroom without the blindfold. He threw her
    to the floor and strangled her to death with a rope. He moved
    her body to the bedroom and drank more whiskey. Then he dug
    a grave in his yard and buried her. Defendant disposed of
    everything he had taken except the eight-ball keychain, a second
    black sweatshirt, and the CDs. He threw the VCR and
    videotapes, which were in a garbage bag, near a road and burned
    everything else.
    After confessing, defendant accompanied Hobson and
    others to his home and the locations of the graves and the
    garbage bag that contained the VCR, videotapes, and CDs. The
    jury was shown a videotape of the trip.
    3. Exhumations and autopsies
    The victims’ bodies were recovered the day after defendant
    confessed. Newhouse’s body was found buried about 30 feet
    above the road. Crawford’s body was found by defendant’s
    residence, buried about two feet deep.
    Dr. George Sterbenz, a forensic pathologist, observed the
    exhumations. He testified that Newhouse’s body was in an
    advanced state of decomposition. She had on a shirt that had
    been cut in half up the back, and a bra with shoulder straps
    pulled down from her shoulders. She had on no other clothing.
    Two areas of her scalp were more decomposed, indicating that
    they had been injured, and dried fluid on top of her head was
    consistent with blood. Dr. Sterbenz believed the cause of death
    was asphyxiation, but decomposition prevented him from
    determining the specific mechanism by which this occurred.
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    Decomposition also prevented a determination of whether
    Newhouse suffered any trauma to the vaginal area.
    Crawford’s body was not as decomposed as Newhouse’s
    body, although the level of decomposition precluded a
    determination of whether Crawford’s vaginal or anal area was
    bruised. Crawford was wearing a black sweatshirt with a Hard
    Rock Cafe logo and black sweatpants. A blindfold made from a
    bandanna covered her eyes and nose. A rope circled her neck
    two and one-half times and was also wrapped about her torso
    and extremities. Two black flex ties were tied around her wrists,
    and a third flex tie connected them and passed through the rope.
    There were two lacerations inside her mouth that were
    consistent with a blow by a fist to the face. There was also an
    area of bruising on her scalp. Dr. Sterbenz concluded that her
    cause of death was asphyxia by ligature strangulation.
    4. Other corroborating evidence
    On April 23, a search of the abandoned cabin close to
    defendant’s residence disclosed a large blood stain on the pad
    underneath the cushions of the couch. The next day, another
    search of defendant’s home led to the discovery of black flex ties
    that matched the flex ties on Crawford’s wrists. Searchers also
    discovered some keys about 48 feet from his home. The keys
    unlocked the doors to Crawford’s house.
    Analyses of blood stains and hair at the Jennifer Street
    Bridge and surrounding areas corroborated defendant’s
    description of his abduction of Newhouse. Rodney Andrus, the
    assistant director at the Attorney General’s laboratory in
    Fresno, also tested blood stains from the jump seat and the
    couch in the cabin. He found that their markers were consistent
    with Newhouse’s blood and the blood stains on the bridge.
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    An inspection of Crawford’s home further corroborated
    defendant’s confession. Items that defendant confessed to
    taking were indeed missing. The state of the bed also suggested
    that Crawford had gotten out of bed shortly before she was
    abducted. Blood stains matching Crawford’s were found in the
    bathroom.
    Evidence concerning Crawford’s clothes and belongings
    was also consistent with defendant’s confession. Crawford’s
    mother, Leslie Crawford, described some of her daughter’s
    belongings, including an eight-ball keychain and a souvenir
    sweatshirt with a Hard Rock Cafe logo which she wore only
    infrequently. She recalled that her daughter normally wore a
    T-shirt and panties to bed. A search of Crawford’s house failed
    to find the dark sweatclothes that Crawford’s mother reported
    missing.
    5. Additional interviews of defendant
    After the interview on April 22, during which defendant
    confessed, Hobson interviewed defendant six more times. Two
    days after the confession, Hobson interviewed defendant to
    review some of the details of the crimes and his interactions with
    the victims. Hobson next contacted defendant the following day
    to discuss his childhood and upbringing. The day after that,
    Hobson met with defendant to talk about defendant’s relatives.
    On April 27, after driving defendant to view the area
    where he abducted Newhouse, Hobson conducted a videotaped
    interview, which was shown to the jury. Defendant told Hobson
    that Newhouse cursed at him and the more she cursed, the
    angrier he became. Hobson asked, “When you get mad, what do
    you want to do?” Defendant responded, “Rape her.” He stated
    that after he raped her, he was no longer angry, and he denied
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    intentionally tying her so tightly that she would strangle
    herself. He confirmed, however, that he had tied her differently
    when she was in the truck.
    In contrast to Newhouse, Crawford did not curse at
    defendant; he had placed duct tape over her mouth. When
    raping Crawford, defendant was acting out a fantasy that
    involved sexual pleasure and dominance. Control was part of
    the fantasy, and he had used plastic restraints on Crawford
    because they were a better means of control. He agreed with
    Hobson’s theory that once Crawford saw defendant, “it took
    away the rest of the fantasy and you just knew you had to kill
    her.” He also agreed that when he hogtied her, he was hoping
    that she would die like Newhouse so he would not have to kill
    her himself, but when she broke a thin rope he had put around
    her feet, he pulled on both sides of the rope around her neck and
    strangled her. When Hobson pointed out the inconsistency
    between this description and an earlier account in which
    defendant said he hogtied Crawford, left to drink more, and then
    came back and took a small piece of rope and strangled her,
    defendant said his current description was more accurate. He
    said that if Crawford had not struggled, he would have released
    her that night.
    With respect to defendant’s assertion that he had planned
    to release both of the victims, Hobson asked how he planned to
    avoid being identified as the perpetrator, given that he had not
    used a condom. Defendant stated that he planned to wash them
    in the bathtub at his home and use a bottle to wash out his
    semen.
    Hobson asked whether defendant committed his first rape
    when he was 21 years old, and defendant said he committed an
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    attempted rape when he was 18, in Sandpoint, Idaho. The
    victim was a young girl. By the time he abducted Crawford, his
    fantasies always involved tying his victims up and cutting their
    clothes off. Torture had never been part of his fantasy, which
    involved only dominance and the ability to have sex repeatedly.
    He was uncomfortable when he killed Crawford; it made him
    feel sick and angry at himself. When he saw fliers about
    Newhouse or Crawford, he felt sick and sorry for them. Finally,
    he denied taking a camera from Crawford’s house, and said he
    had not committed any other crimes while on parole. He also
    denied shooting a person in the chest in Santa Barbara over a
    drug deal before he went to prison. The transcript of the
    interview included parenthetical statements, added to inform
    the jury that defendant later admitted off-camera to stealing
    Crawford’s camera and shooting a man in Santa Barbara.
    Hobson met again with defendant in the last days of April,
    when they discussed Hobson’s intention to go to Idaho and
    interview defendant’s relatives. Then in early May, after
    interviewing defendant’s friends and relatives, Hobson met with
    defendant to discuss what Hobson had learned.
    6. Defendant’s prior sexual assault of Shelley C.
    At trial, the prosecution introduced testimony regarding
    defendant’s prior assault of Shelley C. Shelley testified that
    early one morning in 1987 when she was living in San Luis
    Obispo County, she woke to a man’s hand over her mouth. He
    held a knife to her throat and tied her hands behind her back.
    He cut off her clothes, started to gag and blindfold her, but
    stopped when she said she would not say anything or look. He
    raped and sodomized her and then hogtied her. When he heard
    Shelley’s roommate’s car, he fled. There was a strong odor of
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    alcohol on the assailant. When he was interrogated concerning
    this assault, defendant stated that he wanted counseling, but
    was afraid of the time he would spend in prison. Defendant
    confessed to the crimes and pleaded guilty to residential
    burglary, rape and sodomy.
    7. Defense case
    The defense offered no evidence at the guilt phase.
    B. Evidence at the Penalty Phase
    1. Defense case
    Defendant introduced extensive evidence at the penalty
    phase. The evidence falls into two general categories. In the
    first category is testimony that painted defendant as a
    sympathetic character, a child who was abused by a violent
    father and a person who, despite the abuse suffered, still had a
    moral compass, good personality traits, and the ability to form
    positive relationships. In the second category is testimony that
    aimed to reduce defendant’s moral culpability. Defendant
    introduced evidence to show that he suffered from a mental
    illness, one that impaired his ability to control himself, and that
    the various institutions under which he was placed — including
    California’s Department of Corrections — failed to afford him
    any treatment.
    Through the testimony of his mother, sisters,
    grandmother, aunts, uncles, stepmother, stepsister, elementary
    school classmates, teacher, principal, neighbor, and others,
    defendant described the serious mental and physical abuse he
    suffered as a child. Born in 1966 to Connie Ridley and Allan
    Krebs, defendant was the second of four children. Allan Krebs
    drank, abused drugs, and beat Ridley. When she left Allan,
    Ridley, then an alcoholic, began living with a man who spanked
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    defendant, forced him to wear soiled underwear on his head, and
    once made defendant go to school in a diaper. Ridley eventually
    sent defendant back to live with his father. Allan beat
    defendant, once severely enough to leave “black and blue” marks
    and cuts from the “waistline, all the way down to his ankles.”
    In 1981, when defendant was 15 years old, he broke into a
    neighbor’s home and stole a gun and some other items. As a
    result, defendant was sent to the North Idaho Children’s Home
    (Children’s Home), a “private, nonprofit, residential treatment
    facility.” Defendant introduced the testimony of several staff
    members from the Children’s Home, who described his good
    behavior while at the facility. Consistent with the defense
    presentation of defendant as a person capable of empathy for his
    victims and remorse for his actions, a childcare worker from the
    Children’s Home, Scott Mosher, testified that defendant was
    “very remorseful” if he “did something wrong during this period
    of time.” Toward the end of this testimony, counsel asked
    Mosher whether he felt defendant “should receive the death
    penalty.” The prosecution objected, and the trial court sustained
    the objection, explaining that Mosher’s opinion lacked relevance
    because Mosher last saw defendant in 1983 and no longer had
    any relationship with him.
    When he was at the Children’s Home, defendant dated an
    11-year-old girl, Adonia Krug. Krug testified that defendant
    “helped [her] through a lot.” The relationship ended amicably
    when Diana Scheyt, Krug’s mother, told defendant how old Krug
    was. Scheyt thought defendant had a positive influence on her
    daughter and allowed the two to keep in contact as friends.
    In 1984, after defendant turned 18, he assaulted a 12-
    year-old girl in Sandpoint, Idaho. Defendant pleaded guilty to
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    a misdemeanor assault charge and spent three months in the
    county jail for the attack. The victim, Jennifer E., testified for
    the prosecution during the penalty phase, and the prosecution
    used this incident to cross-examine several witnesses who
    opined that defendant should not receive the death penalty.
    During the same year, defendant was convicted of grand
    theft of an automobile. For this infraction, defendant served a
    prison term at the North Idaho Correctional Institute at
    Cottonwood (Cottonwood). Defendant presented the testimony
    of a Cottonwood correctional officer who recounted his generally
    positive attitude and good behavior while incarcerated.
    Shortly after he was released from prison in 1986,
    defendant went to California to live with his mother and her
    then-husband, John Hollister. Hollister testified that he and
    defendant had a friendly relationship, and that defendant had a
    girlfriend during this time, Liesel Turner. According to
    Hollister, defendant and Turner had “[a] good relationship” and
    defendant was “infatuated with her, wanted to impress her.” As
    described post, the prosecution called Turner as a rebuttal
    witness.
    In 1987, defendant was arrested and convicted of the
    attempted rape and rape of two women, A.C. and Shelley C.
    Defendant served his sentence at Soledad prison. He introduced
    the testimony of three correctional officers who worked at the
    facility. According to Officer Jeanne Pullano, defendant was “a
    model prisoner.” Pullano further testified that there was no
    counseling for “sexual predators” available at Soledad at that
    time, and even if there had been, inmates “probably would not
    attend because they would be identified as sex offenders if they
    did” and “child molesters” and “rapists” were “low . . . on the
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    totem pole” “within the prison population.”                  The other
    correctional officers offered similar testimony.
    In September 1997, defendant was paroled to San Luis
    Obispo County. Defendant found a job in the surrounding area,
    made friends, and began a relationship with a woman named
    Rosalynn Moore. Moore testified that defendant treated her
    “fairly well.”      In particular, defendant was never
    “inappropriately forceful with [her]” “in a sexual way,” and if she
    “didn’t want to do something, he would say okay and . . . that
    was the end of it.”
    Three of defendant’s friends testified that they were
    present at a bar called Outlaws in August 1998 when defendant
    got into a fight with a man. One of the friends, Melissa
    Copeland, said that defendant had gotten into the fight because
    the man had threatened her and defendant “was defending
    [her],” “defending [her] honor.”
    Defendant pressed the theme of institutional failure as it
    pertained to his parole. For example, his counsel drew from
    Parole Officer Zaragoza the statements that (1) although San
    Luis Obispo referred all sex offenders to a “parole outpatient
    clinic,” the program was “more monitoring” than “confidential
    psychotherapy,” and (2) other than the parole outpatient clinic,
    there was no other program “available to parolees of rape
    convictions for their treatment.” Defendant also introduced the
    testimony of Dr. Randall True, who worked at the parole
    outpatient clinic and saw defendant while he was on parole.
    True testified to the “limited resources” that he had to do his
    work. In response to the question, “if the resources were
    available — for a person such as [defendant] at the time you saw
    him — what programs would you put him in,” True named a
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    number of treatment programs that defendant, in fact, was not
    afforded. True admitted, however, that defendant never told
    him that he had fantasies about raping women. Had defendant
    done so, True would have undertaken additional work.
    In addition to the lay witnesses, defendant introduced the
    testimony of two experts, Drs. Craig Haney and Fred Berlin.
    Haney, a psychologist, examined defendant’s background with
    an eye to forming an opinion concerning (1) the “opportunities
    in which [defendant] might have been treated for the problems
    from which he suffered and whether or not there was evidence
    that, in fact, he had been treated,” and (2) the “kind of
    adjustment [defendant] would make . . . under a sentence of life
    in prison without the possibility of parole.” After interviewing
    defendant and people who knew him, Haney came to the
    following conclusions. First, defendant has lived “a traumatic
    and traumatically damaging life.” His manifestations of certain
    “long-lasting problems” were observed throughout his life by
    various people. Yet, despite the fact that “[o]ftentimes the
    observations      were     accompanied      with    very    clear
    recommendations that [defendant] receive treatment,”
    defendant “received no psychotherapy, really no psychotherapy
    throughout his entire life, including the ten-year period of time
    during which he was incarcerated in the California Department
    of Corrections.” Second, defendant was “a person who [would]
    make[] a remarkably good adjustment to institutional settings,”
    including life in prison.
    The main defense expert was Dr. Berlin, a board-certified
    psychiatrist who interviewed defendant and “made two
    diagnoses with conviction.” Berlin first diagnosed defendant
    with sexual sadism, a sexual disorder characterized by “intense,
    recurrent, erotically arousing fantasies and urges [that] are
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    about having sex in a coercive and sadistic fashion rather than
    in a consenting fashion.” Crucially, Berlin opined that sexual
    sadism impaired defendant’s “ability to be in full control of
    himself.” In slightly more technical terms, Berlin said that
    sexual sadism caused defendant to be volitionally impaired.
    According to Berlin, sexual sadists, like alcoholics or heroin
    addicts, “on their own, often can’t stop doing it [giving in to their
    urges] because they have an impairment in their ability to be in
    control.” Like a kleptomaniac who is “driven to repeatedly
    steal,” defendant was driven to engage in his behavior.
    Anticipating the prosecution’s argument, Dr. Berlin
    explained that a person suffering from volitional impairment is
    nonetheless able to plan and premeditate his or her actions.
    Berlin also explained that such a person is able to defer his or
    her urges. A volitionally impaired person could desist from
    acting out his or her urges given sufficient “external controls,”
    for example, those controls that exist in a prison setting. This
    does not mean that the person has the internal controls
    necessary to control his or her behavior. Berlin opined that
    sexual sadism is a treatable disorder.
    In addition to his diagnosis of sexual sadism, Dr. Berlin
    diagnosed defendant with alcoholism. Berlin testified that the
    impact of alcoholism “on sexual sadism is like pouring a fuel on
    the fire.” The witness elaborated that “both because he was
    intoxicated and because he had a disorder that does impair a
    person’s ability to be in full control of himself,” defendant’s
    capacity “to conform his conduct to the requirements of law” was
    “impaired.” Finally, Berlin considered but did not diagnose
    defendant with antisocial personality disorder.
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    At the point in his testimony in which Dr. Berlin discussed
    the ability of a sexual sadist to defer his actions, defense counsel
    attempted to ask the witness about a law in California known
    as the Sexually Violent Predator Act. The prosecution objected,
    and after an extensive discussion with counsel, the court
    sustained the objection.
    On cross-examination, the prosecution attacked Dr.
    Berlin’s opinion that defendant could not control his urges. For
    instance, the prosecution inquired about a test known as the
    “policeman at the elbow,” which asked whether an individual
    would have acted on his or her impulses if there had been a
    police officer present. Berlin conceded that “if the policeman
    had come, [defendant] would have stopped and tried not to be
    apprehended.” However, a police officer was an external control,
    and once that external control was removed, Berlin did not
    “believe for a minute that [defendant] wouldn’t have been driven
    to then seek out somebody else.” Last, the prosecution asked
    Berlin what defendant did to resist the urge to kidnap
    Newhouse or break into Crawford’s house. Berlin replied that
    defendant “didn’t say he tried to resist.” “In fact,” elaborated
    the doctor, “he said that after these urges had come back, and
    he dates it to the incident in which he was in the bar fight [at
    Outlaws], that after fighting so hard for so many years to resist
    it, he kind of became demoralized and gave up and kind of
    stopped fighting as hard as he had previously.”
    2. Prosecution case
    The prosecution presented three types of aggravating
    evidence: defendant’s prior criminal activities, surviving family
    members’ victim impact statements, and testimony to rebut
    defendant’s mitigating evidence.
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    To establish defendant’s prior criminal activities, the
    prosecution introduced evidence of his assaults on Jennifer E.
    and A.C. Jennifer E. testified that in 1984, when she was 12
    years old, she met defendant. One night in February 1984,
    Jennifer was downtown with a group of friends that included
    defendant. At some point, defendant pulled Jennifer “off to one
    side” and tried to kiss her. She said, “no, I’m only 12.” When
    she tried to walk away, defendant grabbed her, and they both
    fell to the ground. Defendant then attempted “to undo his pants
    and [her] pants.” Jennifer fought to get defendant off, and
    defendant struck her three or four times with a closed fist.
    Eventually, the two rolled over an embarkment, and Jennifer
    was able to get away.
    A.C. testified that in 1987, she lived in San Luis Obispo
    County. On a night in mid-June, she was in bed with her
    daughter when defendant broke into the house and climbed on
    top of her. Defendant was carrying a knife and a screwdriver.
    A.C.’s daughter cried and screamed. A.C. asked defendant to
    take her to another room. When they were walking down the
    hallway, defendant attempted to tie A.C. up and “got really
    upset” when she did not cooperate. He “hit [her] head against
    the wall.” When A.C. tried (unsuccessfully) to stab defendant
    with his knife, defendant “got mad . . . and bit [her] finger.”
    Defendant then left. A.C. later underwent surgery on her finger
    but could not make full use of it again.
    To show the impact that defendant’s crimes had on the
    victims’ families, the prosecution introduced the testimony of
    Newhouse’s mother and aunt and Crawford’s mother and
    grandmother. The family members testified about the victims’
    lives and plans they had for the future. They also described the
    devastation brought by the victims’ deaths.
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    Finally, the prosecution produced rebuttal testimony. It
    called Liesel Turner, who was defendant’s girlfriend in 1987.
    Turner testified that she ended the relationship with defendant
    because she did not “feel safe” and gave reasons for her feelings.
    In addition, the prosecution rebutted Dr. Berlin’s
    testimony with the testimony of Dr. Park Dietz. Unlike Berlin,
    Dietz testified that individuals “whose only problem is sexual
    sadism” did not suffer from volitional impairment. Dietz
    nonetheless afforded a role to mental illness, opining “the reason
    [defendant] behaves in this way toward victims is because he
    has an antisocial personality disorder.” Finally, Dietz rested his
    conclusion that defendant did not suffer volitional impairment
    on the particular facts of the case. Specifically, Dietz testified
    that defendant’s decisions to drink, lie to his doctor, “cruise” for
    victims, carry a “rape kit,” and stop resisting his impulses
    showed that his “volitional control was there.” When asked
    “whether at the time of the offense the capacity of the defendant
    . . . to conform his conduct to the requirements of the law was
    impaired as a result of a mental disease or defect,” Dietz’s
    answer was that defendant’s “decision to stop resisting, to stop
    trying to conform his conduct, is a choice, a bad choice, he made,
    rather than his not having the ability to control himself.”
    II. DISCUSSION
    A. Jury Selection Issues
    Defendant claims that the prosecutor improperly used his
    peremptory challenges to remove Catholic prospective jurors in
    violation of People v. Wheeler (1978) 
    22 Cal. 3d 258
     (Wheeler) and
    People v. Batson (1986) 
    476 U.S. 79
     (Batson). Although
    defendant argued before the trial court that the prosecution
    wrongfully removed six prospective jurors on the basis of their
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    religious affiliation, Catholicism, defendant’s Batson/Wheeler
    claim on appeal is restricted to the removal of a single
    prospective juror, Juror No. 6.5 For the reasons explained below,
    we reject his claim.
    1. Background
    Prospective Juror No. 6, along with more than 150 other
    venire members, filled out a written questionnaire and was
    individually questioned by the court and counsel. Jurors who
    were not excused during the individual questioning were asked
    to return some days later. Upon their return, the remaining
    jurors were subject to peremptory challenges by the prosecution
    and defense — each of which had 20 such challenges. In quick
    succession, the parties struck 25 jurors, with the prosecution
    striking Juror No. 6 as his eighth strike. After the prosecution
    also struck Juror Nos. 122 and 126, the defense raised a
    Batson/Wheeler challenge, arguing that the prosecution had
    improperly removed these three jurors because they were
    Catholic.6 Defense counsel acknowledged that defendant was
    5
    Batson has been held to preclude the removal of a
    potential juror based solely on the venire member’s religious
    affiliation. (U.S. v. Brown (2d Cir. 2003) 
    352 F.3d 654
    , 667-669;
    see People v. Gutierrez (2017) 2 Cal.5th 1150, 1158 (Gutierrez)
    [“At issue in a Batson/Wheeler motion is whether any specific
    prospective juror is challenged on account of bias against an
    identifiable group distinguished on racial, religious, ethnic, or
    similar grounds”].) The Attorney General does not contend
    otherwise.
    6
    Defense counsel also mentioned Prospective Juror No. 49
    but admitted that “the record is a little more ambiguous” about
    whether he was Catholic. The trial court did not inquire about
    this juror much thereafter, and we infer that the court
    determined Juror No. 49 was not Catholic.
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    not Catholic but stressed that he “has received religious
    counseling from a Catholic nun.”
    Before asking the prosecution to give its reasons for
    striking the three jurors, the court made the following
    statement. “[T]here’s some question as to whether — in the case
    law the record assumes that the finding has been made of a
    reasonable inference if you ask for justification from the other
    party. And on this record I don’t think I can make a finding that
    there’s a reasonable inference although there does seem to be at
    least the beginnings of a trend. [¶] But with three jurors — I
    know there are a lot of Catholics on this panel, just in my
    memory. I don’t know which numbers they are, but I know there
    are a lot.” The court then stated, “with that caveat, I’ll ask the
    prosecutor to state what his reasons were for those three jurors.”
    The prosecutor offered his reasons for excusing the venire
    members. With regard to Prospective Juror No. 6, the
    prosecutor stated that he was concerned with the juror’s stance
    on “psychiatric issues.” Citing questions from the written
    questionnaire, the prosecutor described the juror’s answers as
    revealing that she “puts faith in psychiatric testing, thinks
    psychology and psychiatry is very useful, and believes it can
    explain a lot about a person.”7 These responses concerned the
    7
    The questions and answers from the written questionnaire
    the prosecutor referred to are as follows:
    “Q111.        Are you familiar with psychological testing?
    “A.           [Juror circled “Yes.”]
    “Q.           Which tests?
    “A.           Not sure.
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    prosecution because “the defense has hired one of the top
    psychologists in the country, Dr. Fred Berlin.”
    The prosecutor also cited Prospective Juror No. 6’s
    response to Question No. 129 on the questionnaire. This
    question asks, “Is there any type of information regarding a
    defendant’s background or character that would be important to
    you when choosing between life without parole and death (e.g.
    work record, childhood abuse, brutal parents, alcoholism,
    former good deeds, illnesses, etc.)?” In response, the juror wrote,
    “childhood abuse, brutal parents, alcoholism, illnesses.” The
    “Q.           How do you feel about these tests?
    “A.           It determines what is the true feelings of that
    person.”
    “Q113.        What is your opinion about the use of
    psychology or psychiatry to explain human
    behavior?
    “A.           I think it[’]s very useful.”
    “Q114.        Have you ever studied psychiatry, psychology,
    or any related subjects?
    “A.           [Juror circled “No.”]
    “Q.           Do you have an interest in the psychology of
    the mind?
    “A.           I’m curious to know.
    “Q.           Have you read articles or watched information
    and/or entertainment programs relating to
    this subject?
    “A.           Yes.
    “Q.           What are your general opinions about this
    subject?
    “A.           I think it can explain a lot about a person.”
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    prosecution noted that childhood abuse, brutal parents, and
    alcoholism were things “we know will be offered in this case” as
    mitigating factors at the penalty phase.
    The court made its ruling after hearing the prosecution’s
    reasons and the defense’s response. Directing its comments at
    the prosecutor, the court stated, “Actually went a lot further
    than you needed to, but on the basis of this record, I can’t find a
    reasonable inference, as I indicated earlier, based on just three
    jurors. My feeling was there were probably about 20 [Catholic
    prospective jurors] in the field of 83. Ms. Ashbaugh’s [one of
    defendant’s attorneys] indicating that there are 18. [¶] But in
    any event, it appears that there certainly are secular reasons for
    excusing each of the jurors, and it clearly — in the process that
    we’ve gone through, the record obviously reflects that the
    questionnaire is replete with questions that would give you
    information for preempts on both sides. . . . [¶] But, as I say, in
    this case I don’t at this point even find a reasonable inference.
    I only asked for the response just for the record.” The court
    denied defendant’s Batson/Wheeler motion.
    The defense renewed its motion upon dismissals of more
    prospective jurors, and the court deferred discussion until jury
    selection had finished. Once both parties had exhausted their
    peremptory challenges, the defense contested the prosecution’s
    excusal of Prospective Juror Nos. 127, 201, and 141. Juror No.
    141 was the prosecution’s last challenge; the prosecution had
    previously accepted a panel with Juror No. 141 on the panel, but
    after the defense struck another juror, the prosecution exercised
    its two remaining peremptory challenges to strike more jurors,
    including Juror No. 141. The court heard the parties’ arguments
    regarding the strikes and once again denied the Batson/Wheeler
    motion. In so ruling, the court stated, “I don’t find a reasonable
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    inference of a group bias, but I did get reasons on the record from
    the prosecutor as to why the excusals were made. . . . [¶] And
    the fact that there are . . . two jurors still on the panel who are
    Catholics is of some weight, except that all the challenges have
    been exhausted.”
    Despite the objections raised to the excusals of multiple
    panelists during jury selection, defendant, as noted earlier, now
    challenges the trial court’s ruling only with respect to
    Prospective Juror No. 6. Because “reviewing courts must
    consider all evidence bearing on the trial court’s factual finding
    regarding discriminatory intent,” we bear the above record in
    mind as we examine defendant’s Batson/Wheeler arguments
    with regard to this single juror. (People v. Lenix (2008) 
    44 Cal. 4th 602
    , 607 (Lenix).)
    2. Analysis
    The framework for analyzing a Batson/Wheeler challenge
    is well established. The analysis proceeds in three stages.
    “First, the trial court must determine whether the defendant
    has made a prima facie showing that the prosecutor exercised a
    peremptory challenge based on [religious affiliation]. Second, if
    the showing is made, the burden shifts to the prosecutor to
    demonstrate that the challenges were exercised for a [group]-
    neutral reason. Third, the court determines whether the
    defendant has proven purposeful discrimination.” (Lenix, supra,
    44 Cal.4th at p. 612.)
    A preliminary question is whether defendant’s
    Batson/Wheeler challenge here should be reviewed at the first or
    third stage. Defendant presses that we should conduct a third-
    stage inquiry. The Attorney General concedes the point, but her
    brief was filed before we decided People v. Scott (2015) 61
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    Cal.4th 363, 391 (Scott). In Scott, we acknowledged that our
    jurisprudence in distinguishing between a first- and a third-
    stage review “has not always been entirely consistent.” (Id. at
    p. 386.) We sought to rectify the inconsistency by clarifying that
    “where (1) the trial court has determined that no prima facie
    case of discrimination exists, (2) the trial court allows or invites
    the prosecutor to state his or her reasons for excusing the juror
    for the record, (3) the prosecutor provides nondiscriminatory
    reasons, and (4) the trial court determines that the prosecutor’s
    nondiscriminatory reasons are genuine, an appellate court
    should begin its analysis of the trial court’s denial of the
    Batson/Wheeler motion with a review of the first-stage ruling.”
    (Id. at p. 391.) Accordingly, if the trial court makes a first-stage
    ruling before the prosecutor states his or her reasons for
    excusing the prospective jurors, an appellate court reviews that
    first-stage ruling. In contrast, when the trial court listens to the
    prosecutor’s reasons before purporting to rule on the first stage
    inquiry, “we infer an ‘implied prima facie finding’ of
    discrimination and proceed directly to review of the ultimate
    question of purposeful discrimination.” (Id. at p. 387, fn. 1.)
    The trial court here found that defendant did not make out
    a prima facie case of discrimination. This was what the court
    meant when it said it did not find a “reasonable inference.” But
    of course, the court said it could not make “a reasonable
    inference” twice, once before inviting the prosecutor to offer his
    reasons and once after hearing those reasons. If the court’s first
    statement — “on this record I don’t think I can make a finding
    that there’s a reasonable inference” — constitutes a ruling, then
    we should review that first-stage ruling. On the other hand, if
    the court did not make a ruling until after it heard the
    prosecutor’s reasons — when it stated more definitively that “on
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    the basis of this record, I can’t find a reasonable inference” —
    then we should treat the prima facie case as moot and “instead
    skip to Batson’s third stage.” (People v. Mills (2010) 
    48 Cal. 4th 158
    , 174.) The record is susceptible of both readings, but the
    ambiguity proves immaterial in this case. Even were we to
    assume — as defendant urges — that his challenge has arrived
    at the third stage, still we would find against him.
    “At the third stage of the Wheeler/Batson inquiry, ‘the
    issue comes down to whether the trial court finds the
    prosecutor’s [group]-neutral explanations to be credible.’ ”
    (Lenix, supra, 44 Cal.4th at p. 613.) “Review of a trial court’s
    denial of a Wheeler/Batson motion is deferential, examining only
    whether substantial evidence supports its conclusions. . . . ‘So
    long as the trial court makes a sincere and reasoned effort to
    evaluate the nondiscriminatory justifications offered, its
    conclusions are entitled to deference on appeal.’ ” (Id. at pp. 613-
    614.) Defendant urges us not to accord deference to the trial
    court’s decision because, in his view, the court did not make a
    “sincere and reasoned effort” to evaluate the prosecutor’s
    reasons. In particular, defendant faults the court for not
    evaluating “any of the actual reasons given by the prosecutor”
    and instead speaking only in the hypothetical, stating that “the
    questionnaire is replete with questions that would give you
    information for preempts.”
    Contrary to defendant’s assertion, the trial court’s
    statements indicate it did generally evaluate the prosecutor’s
    proffered reasons — responses on the written questionnaire —
    for excusing the prospective jurors. As the trial court observed,
    “it appears that there certainly are secular reasons for excusing
    each of the jurors, and it clearly — in the process that we’ve gone
    through, the record obviously reflects that the questionnaire is
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    replete with questions that would give you information for
    preempts on both sides.” Defendant makes much of the fact that
    the court used the conditional tense, i.e., that it stated the
    questionnaire “would give you information for preempts on both
    sides” and not that the questionnaire did supply information to
    strike the jurors. But the court’s phrasing is understandable in
    light of the fact that it ruled against defendant at the first stage
    and made a third-stage finding only were it, counterfactually, to
    reach the matter.
    In any event, we find substantial evidence to support the
    trial court’s denial of defendant’s Batson/Wheeler challenge. The
    prosecutor’s reasons for striking Prospective Juror No. 6 are
    plausible and supported. The prosecution expected defendant
    to argue — partly through the use of psychiatric testimony —
    that he did not deserve the death penalty because he suffered
    childhood abuse, alcoholism, and mental illnesses. Juror No. 6
    indicated that she was receptive to such arguments. It was
    therefore sound trial strategy for the prosecution to have struck
    her. (See, e.g., Gutierrez, supra, 2 Cal.5th at p. 1168; see also
    People v. Cunningham (2015) 
    61 Cal. 4th 609
    , 665 [crediting a
    prospective juror’s receptivity to psychological testimony as a
    race-neutral reason for the prosecutor to have struck her when
    the defense was expected to rely heavily on such testimony];
    People v. Watson (2008) 
    43 Cal. 4th 652
    , 676-678 [finding no
    Batson/Wheeler error when a juror was struck because she may
    have been “overly sympathetic” to the defendant’s evidence “of
    abuse and neglect during his childhood”].)
    Defendant argues that the prosecution had no genuine
    reason to want to strike a prospective juror who was receptive
    to psychiatry. Defendant contends that a juror’s attitude to
    psychiatry was a neutral factor, as a psychiatrist was also
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    expected to testify for the prosecution. But the prosecution
    could have judged that a juror not so inclined to believe in
    psychiatric testimony altogether might be better for its case.
    However correct was its judgment, we see little to suggest that
    it exercised its peremptory challenge improperly. (See, e.g.,
    Gutierrez, supra, 2 Cal.5th at p. 1171.)
    Defendant also argues that the prosecution should not
    have relied on Prospective Juror No. 6’s response to Question
    No. 129 because the question was asked in a leading manner.
    Yet, simply because the juror may not have focused on
    “childhood abuse, brutal parents, alcoholism, [and] illnesses”
    until prompted by the question does not mean her response was
    unreliable. There is nothing to indicate that the prosecution
    behaved disingenuously in reading the juror’s answer as
    indicating that she was sympathetic to defendant’s case in
    mitigation.
    Other evidence supports the conclusion that the
    prosecutor’s reasons for striking Prospective Juror No. 6 were
    genuinely held. (See, e.g., People v. Hardy (2018) 5 Cal.5th 56,
    76.) First, we have the prosecution’s oral examination of the
    juror. Far from being desultory, the prosecutor during voir dire
    explored the same topics from the questionnaire that ultimately
    motivated him to excuse the juror. For example, the prosecutor
    asked Juror No. 6 about her “curios[ity] about the criminal
    mind,” and she responded that she wanted an explanation for
    why criminals do what they do and that “childhood abuse or
    brutal parents or alcoholism” could be an explanation for why
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    people commit crimes.8 The juror also confirmed that she
    wanted to know about “abuse or alcoholism, or illness” before
    deciding on the penalty. The fact that the prosecutor took the
    time to ask Juror No. 6 about areas that concerned him suggests
    that he was not using her written answers as a pretext for
    excluding her.
    Second, we note that two Catholic jurors sat on the jury.
    Of course, the presence of Catholic jurors on the jury is “not
    conclusive” to our inquiry, because the “[e]xclusion of even one
    prospective juror for reasons impermissible under Batson and
    Wheeler constitutes structural error” regardless of how many
    other venire members were not so erroneously excluded. (People
    v. Turner (1994) 
    8 Cal. 4th 137
    , 168; Gutierrez, supra, 2 Cal.5th
    at p. 1158; see also People v. Motton (1985) 
    39 Cal. 3d 596
    , 607-
    608; People v. Snow (1987) 
    44 Cal. 3d 216
    , 225.) Nonetheless, a
    prosecutor’s acceptance of a jury with members of a group that
    the prosecutor allegedly discriminated against “strongly
    suggests that [bias] was not a motive in his challenge” and, as
    such, is “an appropriate factor . . . to consider” in the
    Batson/Wheeler analysis. (Lenix, supra, 44 Cal.4th at p. 629;
    Turner, supra, 8 Cal.4th at p. 168; see also People v. Blacksher
    (2011) 
    52 Cal. 4th 769
    , 802; People v. Jones (2011) 
    51 Cal. 4th 346
    , 362-363 (Jones); People v. Kelly (2007) 
    42 Cal. 4th 763
    , 780.)
    The trial court did not give this circumstance much weight
    because it thought that the prosecution had run out of
    8
    The prospective juror went so far as to state that none of
    the people she knew who had been abused as children grew up
    “normal,” as they either “abused their kids or . . . follow[]
    through with how they were raised.” “In a way,” she said, “it
    seems like they can’t help it because that’s the way they were
    raised, but it’s not an excuse.”
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    peremptory challenges and thus had to accept the jury. This
    was incorrect. Prior to exhausting its peremptory challenges,
    the prosecution had accepted the jury with three Catholics on
    the panel. It was only after the defense struck one more juror
    that the prosecution exercised its two remaining challenges and
    excused another Catholic prospective juror (Prospective Juror
    No. 141). The fact that the prosecution accepted a panel with
    three Catholic jurors on it when it could have winnowed the
    number to one is another piece of evidence suggesting that the
    prosecutor did not harbor group bias against Catholics.
    Against the substantial evidence supporting the trial
    court’s decision, defendant urges us to undertake a comparative
    juror analysis. According to defendant, a comparison of
    Prospective Juror No. 6’s answers against those of seated jurors
    shows that the prosecutor’s reasons for excusing Juror No. 6
    were pretextual, as many jurors gave answers similar to those
    of Juror No. 6 but the prosecution did not strike them. Having
    examined the record ourselves, we do not agree that the seated
    jurors were comparable to Juror No. 6.
    “Comparative juror analysis is evidence that, while
    subject to inherent limitations, must be considered when
    reviewing claims of error at Wheeler/Batson’s third stage when
    the defendant relies on such evidence and the record is adequate
    to permit the comparisons. In those circumstances, comparative
    juror analysis must be performed on appeal even when such an
    analysis was not conducted below.” (Lenix, supra, 44 Cal.4th at
    p. 607.) Because defendant did not attempt such a comparison
    during trial, “the prosecutor was not given the opportunity to
    explain his reasons for dismissing [the challenged jurors] while
    later retaining [the seated jurors].” (People v. O’Malley (2016)
    
    62 Cal. 4th 944
    , 977.) Under such circumstances, we “ ‘must not
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    turn a blind eye to reasons the record discloses for not
    challenging other jurors even if those other jurors are similar in
    some respects to excused jurors.’ ” (Ibid.; see Jones, supra, 51
    Cal.4th at pp. 365-366.) Hence, to determine whether the seated
    jurors were truly comparable to the challenged juror, we may
    look at more than just the specific questions from the
    questionnaire that the prosecutor cited in explaining his
    decision to strike Prospective Juror No. 6. (O’Malley, supra, 62
    Cal.4th at p. 977; Jones, supra, 51 Cal.4th at p. 365 [rejecting
    the defendant’s argument that the court “may not consider
    reasons not stated on the record for accepting other jurors”].)
    Defendant is wrong to suggest otherwise and did not respond to
    the Attorney General’s extensive showing that the unexcused
    jurors were, in many respects, more favorable to the prosecution
    than Juror No. 6.
    Furthermore, the sworn jurors did not give substantially
    the same answers as Prospective Juror No. 6 on the specific
    questions mentioned by the prosecutor. Defendant strings
    together a number of jurors whose answers were somewhat
    similar to Juror No. 6’s on either the questions about psychiatric
    attitude (Question Nos. 112 and 113 in particular) or the
    question about the important factors in deciding on penalty
    (Question No. 129). However, just three of those jurors gave
    purportedly similar answers to Juror No. 6 on both sets of
    questions. Other jurors gave answers similar to those of Juror
    No. 6 on only one of the two areas. These jurors are thus not
    comparable to Juror No. 6 at the outset. (See Lenix, supra, 44
    Cal.4th at p. 624 [“Two panelists might give a similar answer on
    a given point. Yet the risk posed by one panelist might be offset
    by other answers, behavior, attitudes or experiences that make
    one juror, on balance, more or less desirable.”]; id. at p. 631
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    [“Advocates do not evaluate panelists based on a single answer.
    Likewise, reviewing courts should not do so.”].)
    The answers of the remaining three jurors do little to
    strengthen defendant’s case. Of these jurors, none said — as
    Prospective Juror No. 6 did — that psychological testing
    “determines what is the true feelings of [a] person.” Unlike
    Juror No. 6, they also did not say that psychology or psychiatry
    is “very helpful” “to explain human behavior.” Instead, when
    asked for an opinion on “the use of psychology or psychiatry to
    explain [such] behavior,” Juror No. 253 simply said, “I do not
    know what other field deals with human behavior”; Juror No.
    334 gave the circumspect answer of, “It could be reasonable
    depending on how it is presented”; and Juror No. 338 answered
    somewhat ambivalently, “Perhaps to explain the motivational
    factors behind the crime. Also, to permit introduction of
    mitigating/extenuating circumstances.” Moreover, these seated
    jurors did not identify specific factors that were important to
    them at the penalty phase. Juror Nos. 253 and 338 simply said,
    “yes” when asked if there is “any type of information regarding
    a defendant’s background or character that would be important
    to you when choosing between life without parole and death.”
    Juror No. 334 gave the even weaker answer of, “Depend on the
    evidence.” None of the three jurors singled out “childhood abuse,
    brutal parents, alcoholism, illnesses” as did Juror No. 6.
    The comparative juror analysis, in short, does not
    persuade us that it is more likely than not that the prosecution’s
    reasons for excusing Prospective Juror No. 6 were pretextual.
    Defendant’s other arguments fare no better, and we affirm the
    trial court’s denial of defendant’s Batson/Wheeler challenge.
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    B. Guilt Phase Issues
    1. Admission of defendant’s confession
    Defendant contends his confession on April 22, 1999 and
    all subsequent statements should have been excluded because
    his invocation of the right against self-incrimination on April 21
    was not honored and his waiver under Miranda, supra, 
    384 U.S. 436
     was involuntary. As explained below, we agree that the
    investigator should have stopped the interrogation on April 21
    sooner than he did but disagree that the failure compels the
    exclusion of the confession obtained on April 22 or thereafter.
    We therefore reject defendant’s claim that the court erred in
    admitting his statements.
    a. Background
    Before trial began, defendant filed a motion to suppress
    his April 22 confession and all following statements. At the
    hearing on the motion to suppress, Hobson testified. Hobson
    stated that he met with defendant for the first time in March
    1999, after defendant had been arrested for violating his parole.
    At that time, defendant was one of 13 to 16 individuals who,
    because of their prior commission of sexual offenses, were being
    questioned regarding the disappearance of the two victims.
    Without giving defendant the warnings required by Miranda,
    Hobson interviewed him for an hour or so. Defendant told
    Hobson that he knew he would be questioned about the
    disappearance of the two women, and he was willing to
    cooperate in the investigation because he was confident the
    investigation would establish his innocence. He also told
    Hobson the police could search his vehicles and his house at any
    time, and that he was willing to answer questions that arose in
    the future.
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    In early April 1999, Hobson met again with defendant at
    the San Luis Obispo Police Department. Hobson asked
    defendant to submit to a polygraph examination, and defendant
    eventually agreed. The polygraph examiner advised defendant,
    both orally and in writing, of his Miranda rights, and defendant
    signed a statement waiving those rights. Defendant began the
    polygraph examination, but terminated it before the
    examination was completed.
    After the polygraph examination ended, Hobson again
    talked to defendant. Hobson asked defendant if he remembered
    the Miranda rights that the polygraph examiner had read him.
    Defendant indicated that he remembered them and stated that
    he was willing to talk to Hobson. During the 30- to 40-minute
    interview that followed, Hobson asked him again where he was
    on various dates. Defendant readily answered questions and
    reiterated that he was confident that the investigation would
    clear him of any involvement in the two cases.
    On April 21, 1999, Hobson met defendant at the jail and
    asked if he was still willing to talk and cooperate with the
    investigation. Defendant said he was. Hobson transported
    defendant to the police department, where the subsequent
    questioning was recorded. At the beginning of the interview,
    Hobson asked defendant if he still knew the rights the polygraph
    examiner had read him. Defendant confirmed that he knew
    those rights, and Hobson stated, “those are the rights that still
    apply here.”
    Defendant was initially cooperative. However, once
    Hobson began confronting him with physical evidence
    connecting him to the crimes — the eight-ball keychain found in
    defendant’s possession that resembled Crawford’s and the blood
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    found on defendant’s jump seat that matched Newhouse’s —
    defendant lapsed into silence. During the next 15 or 16 minutes,
    defendant remained silent while Hobson urged him to give an
    account of what happened. Defendant eventually stated, “Put
    me down in a holding cell and let me think, all right?” When
    Hobson did not honor the request, defendant said that if Hobson
    “sit[s] there and tr[ies] [to] keep beating on [him],” he was “not
    gonna say nothing.” After some more back-and-forth, Hobson
    agreed to give defendant a 10-minute break and left.
    Hobson returned approximately five minutes later, telling
    defendant, “we know you did it . . . . What matters is why you
    did it.” In response, defendant whispered, “Take me back to
    jail.” Hobson asked if defendant did not want to help him, and
    defendant confirmed, “Not right now.” Hobson continued
    talking, and defendant said, “Nothing to say Larry.”
    Hobson then spoke some more. Defendant indicated for
    the second time that he had “[n]othing to say.” At this point,
    Hobson agreed to take defendant back to jail, saying that
    defendant should call him when he was ready to talk. Hobson
    then stated, “I’ll take you back out just like I brought you in.
    You’re on a parole hold,”9 and defendant responded, “I’m on
    parole hold forever.”
    As Hobson and defendant were leaving to return to the
    jail, defendant asked Hobson for a cigarette and for him to drive
    around a while so defendant could smoke. During the ride,
    Hobson asked defendant more questions. For instance, when he
    9
    The transcript included the parenthetical “(Meaning he
    was not being arrested for the murders of Rachel and Aundria)”
    following Hobson’s statement that defendant was “on a parole
    hold.”
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    heard defendant in the back seat crying and mumbling to
    himself, Hobson asked what defendant was thinking. When
    they arrived at the entrance to the jail facility, Hobson asked
    defendant whether he was willing to take him to the victims.
    Defendant told Hobson to turn into the facility instead, and
    Hobson complied. As they were walking to the jail, Hobson also
    asked if, in the event Hobson did not hear back from defendant,
    he would be willing to let Hobson return the next day.
    Defendant responded, “ “Maybe I’ll deal with it tomorrow.’ ”
    Their conversation ended at approximately 2:00 or 2:30 p.m.
    At approximately 9:45 a.m. on April 22, Hobson arrived
    uninvited back at the jail facility. He met with defendant in an
    employee break room, and had defendant brought to him
    without handcuffs or other restraints. Hobson testified at the
    suppression hearing that he chose the break room instead of the
    police department because he “wanted it to be a noncustodial-
    type situation,” where defendant would not “feel any type of
    coercion.” Once defendant arrived, Hobson began talking,
    observing that the situation with the disappearance of the two
    victims was not going to go away. Hobson stated that the
    investigation painted a terrible picture, and he wanted to hear
    defendant’s side of the story, which might be different.
    Defendant told Hobson that Hobson was wrong, that “I’m
    nothing but an animal, and I don’t deserve to live.” Defendant
    also mumbled, “Nothing can justify what I did.” The first
    statement (“I’m nothing but an animal, and I don’t deserve to
    live”) came within five minutes of Hobson initiating
    conversation with defendant, and the second (“Nothing can
    justify what I did”) followed shortly thereafter.
    When Hobson returned to topics he had broached
    previously, defendant asked Hobson what he wanted defendant
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    to tell him. Hobson said he wanted the truth. Defendant
    responded, “Okay. But I don’t want to talk here.” Hobson
    agreed to take him to the police department.
    Before transporting defendant from the jail, Hobson
    informed defendant that he “wanted to make sure [defendant]
    understood exactly what we were going to be doing and the
    questions I was going to be asking . . . so we didn’t spend another
    two hours of wasted time.” Hobson then read defendant his
    Miranda rights, and defendant acknowledged that he
    understood them. Hobson asked defendant if he was responsible
    for the disappearance and deaths of the two victims, and
    defendant said he was. Hobson subsequently arranged for
    defendant to be transported to the San Luis Obispo Police
    Department. The interaction at the jail took “a total of 30
    minutes from the time [Hobson] walked in until the time [he]
    left.”
    Upon arriving at the police department, Hobson advised
    defendant of his Miranda rights for the second time that day
    and asked if he understood them. Defendant answered in the
    affirmative. He then provided a detailed confession to the
    crimes as described ante, part I.A.2.
    Hobson followed the same advisement procedure when he
    interviewed defendant on April 27. During this interrogation,
    Hobson asked defendant if he had “always talked to [Hobson]
    voluntarily.” Defendant agreed that he had. Although the
    interview was primarily devoted to obtaining more details about
    the kidnappings and killings of Newhouse and Crawford,
    Hobson also asked defendant toward the end of the
    interrogation what prompted him to confess. Defendant
    responded, “[c]ause what I did was wrong.” When asked if
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    anything Hobson told him “convinced [him] that [he] should
    talk,” defendant responded, “[b]lood on my car seat.” Defendant
    distinguished between the two pieces of physical evidence the
    police had at that time, the eight-ball keychain and the blood.
    With regard to the blood, defendant said he “knew what was
    there” and so knew that the police were not “bluffing.” He
    confirmed that if all Hobson had was the keychain, he would not
    have confessed.
    After listening to Hobson’s testimony and reviewing the
    taped confessions, the trial court denied defendant’s motion to
    suppress. In its order, the trial court noted that defendant had
    first been advised of his Miranda rights on April 1 and had
    agreed to discuss the case with Hobson. It further noted that on
    April 21, defendant said he recalled his rights. The court found
    that on April 21 “defendant had invoked his right to remain
    silent” but did not resolve when exactly he did so. The court
    further reasoned that Hobson “stumbled in his attempt to
    honor” defendant’s invocation when Hobson asked defendant at
    the end of the drive to take Hobson to the victims. However, the
    court concluded that Hobson’s inappropriate “contact was
    terminated at the jail in late afternoon at approximately 4:00
    p.m” when Hobson dropped defendant off. Furthermore,
    “[d]efendant at that time indicated that he might be willing to
    speak with Hobson the next day: ‘Maybe. I’ll deal with it
    tomorrow.’ ”10 Based on these facts, the court concluded that
    10
    The trial court’s order includes a period after “Maybe.”
    The court reporter transcribed Hobson’s testimony as stating,
    “Maybe I’ll deal with that tomorrow.” Moreover, Hobson
    testified that their conversation on April 21 ended at
    approximately 2:00 or 2:30 p.m., rather than at 4:00 p.m. as the
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    defendant’s “request to cease questioning then was honored
    within the meaning of federal law.”
    Turning to the events of April 22, the trial court rejected
    the Attorney General’s argument that defendant was not in
    custody when Hobson approached him that morning. Although
    defendant’s jailed status “was due to parole violations,” the court
    found that a reasonable person would believe he was in custody
    “on the case in question.” As such, defendant was in custody for
    Miranda purposes and “should have been advised of his
    Miranda rights or at least reminded of them by Investigator
    Hobson.” Because Hobson failed to do so, the court excluded
    defendant’s inculpatory statements that were made before
    Hobson read defendant his Miranda rights, i.e., the statements
    “I’m nothing but an animal. I don’t deserve to live” and “Nothing
    can justify what I did.” The court nonetheless concluded that
    these admissions were voluntary.
    Finally, the trial court found all statements taken after
    Hobson gave defendant his Miranda warnings on April 22 were
    admissible. It reasoned that Hobson had “obtained implied
    waivers,” and “[t]here is no evidence that defendant’s will was
    overcome.” We review these findings below.
    b. Analysis
    We begin with the uncontroverted premise that
    statements made by a defendant subject to custodial
    interrogation are inadmissible (for certain purposes) unless the
    defendant was “warned that he has a right to remain silent, that
    trial court’s order stated. The Attorney General’s brief quotes
    the reporter’s transcript, with no period after “maybe,” and
    recites that Hobson dropped defendant off at the jail at about
    2:00 or 2:30 p.m.
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    any statement he does make may be used as evidence against
    him, and that he has a right to the presence of an attorney,
    either retained or appointed.” (Miranda, supra, 384 U.S. at
    p. 444; see Harris v. New York (1971) 
    401 U.S. 222
    , 224.) “The
    defendant may waive effectuation of these rights, provided the
    waiver is made voluntarily, knowingly and intelligently.”
    (Miranda, supra, 384 U.S. at p. 444.)
    “On appeal, we review independently the trial court’s legal
    determinations of whether a defendant’s . . . Miranda waivers
    were knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily made [citation],
    and whether his later actions constituted an invocation of his
    right to silence [citation]. We evaluate the trial court’s factual
    findings regarding the circumstances surrounding the
    defendant’s statements and waivers, and “ ‘ “accept the trial
    court’s resolution of disputed facts and inferences, and its
    evaluations of credibility, if supported by substantial
    evidence.” ’ ” (People v. Rundle (2008) 
    43 Cal. 4th 76
    , 115
    (Rundle).)
    Independent of whether a defendant’s rights under
    Miranda were observed, his or her statements may not be
    admitted unless they were voluntary. “The court in making a
    voluntariness determination ‘examines “whether a defendant’s
    will was overborne” by the circumstances surrounding the
    giving of a confession.’ ” (Rundle, supra, 43 Cal.4th at p. 114.)
    The prosecution bears the burden of proof and must show “by a
    preponderance of the evidence the statements were, in fact,
    voluntary.” (Ibid.)
    i. Custody status
    As a threshold matter, the Attorney General argues that
    defendant was not in custody when he confessed and so Miranda
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    has no application. (People v. Stansbury (1995) 
    9 Cal. 4th 824
    ,
    833 [“ ‘Miranda warnings are required only where there has
    been such a restriction on a person’s freedom as to render him
    “in custody” ’ ”].) The Attorney General acknowledges that
    defendant was under arrest and held in county jail when Hobson
    questioned him, but maintains that such restriction on
    defendant’s freedom related only to his parole violations. As
    such, he was not in custody “for Miranda purposes as to the
    Newhouse/Crawford cases at the time he confessed to the
    crimes.” The trial court rejected this argument, and so do we.
    We recognize that a formal arrest does not always
    constitute custody for Miranda purposes. (See Maryland v.
    Shatzer (2010) 
    559 U.S. 98
    , 112 (Shatzer); Howes v. Fields (2012)
    
    565 U.S. 499
    , 509 (Howes).) In Shatzer, supra, 559 U.S. at page
    112, the high court explained that such an arrest or the
    equivalent restraint in freedom of movement is “only a
    necessary and not a sufficient condition for Miranda custody.”
    In particular, an incarcerated person who is interrogated by the
    police is not necessarily in Miranda custody. This is because
    such a person is not always exposed to “the coercive pressures
    identified in Miranda.” (Id. at p. 113; see also Howes, supra, 565
    U.S. at pp. 508-509 [“ ‘custody’ is a term of art that specifies
    circumstances that are thought generally to present a serious
    danger of coercion”].)
    The high court returned to the same theme in Howes. The
    court began by identifying “three strong grounds” why an
    incarcerated person may not experience the coercive pressure of
    Miranda custody. (Howes, supra, 565 U.S. at p. 511.) “First,
    questioning a person who is already serving a prison term does
    not generally involve the shock that very often accompanies
    arrest.” (Ibid.) “Second, a prisoner, unlike a person who has not
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    been sentenced to a term of incarceration, is unlikely to be lured
    into speaking by a longing for prompt release.” (Ibid.) “Third,
    a prisoner, unlike a person who has not been convicted and
    sentenced, knows that the law enforcement officers who
    question him probably lack the authority to affect the duration
    of his sentence.” (Id. at p. 512.) Reviewing the facts of the case
    before it, the court concluded that the prisoner “was not in
    custody within the meaning of Miranda.” (Id. at p. 517.) In
    coming to this conclusion, the court took “into account all of the
    circumstances of the questioning” but thought the “[m]ost
    important” factor was that the prisoner had been “told at the
    outset of the interrogation, and reminded thereafter, that he
    could leave and go back to his cell whenever he wanted.” (Id. at
    pp. 517, 515.)
    This case is different from Shatzer or Howes. In those
    cases, a person serving a prison sentence was brought in for
    questioning on an unrelated crime. By contrast, here defendant
    was not serving a term of incarceration when he was questioned,
    and it is difficult to separate his jailed status from the
    investigation into the Newhouse and Crawford murders.
    Although the legal justification for defendant’s detention was a
    parole violation, the impetus for the arrest was the perceived
    similarity between defendant’s prior crimes and Crawford’s
    disappearance. Moreover, defendant’s interactions with law
    enforcement after his arrest all concerned the Newhouse and
    Crawford investigation. At the time of his confession on April
    22, defendant had been repeatedly questioned about the
    disappearance of these two women. With good reason then,
    defendant appeared to have understood that his custodial
    status, although technically a parole hold, was connected to the
    Newhouse and Crawford matters. This explains defendant’s
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    uncontradicted statement that he was going to be on parole hold
    “forever,” something that seems unlikely were defendant held
    only for drinking alcohol and possessing something that looked
    like a firearm.
    All this matters because, in such circumstances, the
    rationales given in Howes concerning why a person would not
    necessarily feel the coercive pressure of interrogation fall away.
    Unlike the defendant in Howes, defendant was recently arrested
    and presumably still experiencing “the shock that very often
    accompanies arrest.” (Howes, supra, 565 U.S. at p. 511.) He
    likely hoped for “prompt release” and so might have been lured
    into speaking. (Ibid.) Finally, he might well have thought that
    Hobson had “the authority to affect the duration” of his parole
    hold. (Id. at p. 512.) Because law enforcement interest in
    defendant appeared to have been motivated by the
    disappearance of the two women, defendant might reasonably
    have thought that if he could convince Hobson he was not
    responsible for what happened to Newhouse and Crawford, he
    might be released. This explains defendant’s willingness to
    cooperate with the police — including by voluntarily answering
    questions, giving law enforcement permission to search his
    property, and undergoing a polygraph examination.
    Moreover, we find that defendant was, in fact, subject to
    the coercive pressure associated with interrogation. At no point
    was defendant told that he “could leave and go back to his cell
    [at the county jail] whenever he wanted.” (Howes, supra, 565
    U.S. at p. 515.) Indeed, when defendant asked to be taken back
    to jail on April 21, Hobson took some time to accede to the
    request. Hobson also used the time in the interim to try to elicit
    incriminating responses from defendant — that is, to subject
    him to interrogation. (See Rhode Island v. Innis (1980) 
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    291, 300-301; Shatzer, supra, 559 U.S. at p. 112 [reasoning that
    “the coercive pressure that Miranda was designed to guard
    against” was the “ ‘danger of coercion [that] results from the
    interaction of custody and official interrogation’ ”, italics
    omitted].)    Considering the circumstances surrounding
    defendant’s interrogation, we cannot say that a reasonable
    person in his position “ ‘would have felt free to terminate the
    interview and leave.’ ” (Howes, supra, 565 U.S. at p. 515.) We
    therefore find that defendant was in custody for Miranda
    purposes when he confessed.
    ii. Waiver and confession
    We now address the merits of defendant’s claim that his
    confession should have been suppressed. Because defendant
    seeks to suppress the statements that he gave on April 22 and
    thereafter, we begin with the circumstances most immediately
    surrounding these statements. The statements — detailed,
    recorded admissions of how defendant kidnapped, raped, and
    murdered Newhouse and Crawford — were taken after Hobson
    advised defendant of his Miranda rights and confirmed that he
    understood them. As long as defendant validly waived the
    Miranda protection and voluntarily confessed, the statements
    are admissible. (See Missouri v. Seibert (2004) 
    542 U.S. 600
    ,
    608-609 (Seibert) [“giving the warnings and getting a waiver has
    generally produced a virtual ticket of admissibility; maintaining
    that a statement is involuntary even though given after
    warnings and voluntary waiver of rights requires unusual
    stamina, and litigation over voluntariness tends to end with the
    finding of a valid waiver”].)
    A valid waiver need not be express, but “may be implied
    from the defendant’s words and actions.” (People v. Parker
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    (2017) 2 Cal.5th 1184, 1216 (Parker).) When a suspect “ ‘having
    heard and understood a full explanation of his or her Miranda
    rights, then makes an uncompelled and uncoerced decision to
    talk, he or she has thereby knowingly, voluntarily, and
    intelligently waived them.’ ” (Id. at p. 1216.)
    There is no question that defendant “heard and
    understood a full explanation” of his rights. (Parker, supra, 2
    Cal.5th at p. 1216.) On April 22, Hobson twice read defendant
    his rights, and defendant expressly stated that he understood
    them. Moreover, defendant “had extensive prior experience
    with the criminal justice system,” having been convicted of
    numerous felonies before being interrogated in this case. (Ibid.)
    Such familiarity bolsters the conclusion that defendant had “full
    awareness of both the nature of the right being abandoned and
    the consequences of the decision to abandon it.” (Moran v.
    Burbine (1986) 
    475 U.S. 412
    , 421; see also Parker, supra, 2
    Cal.5th at p. 1216 [crediting such prior experience with the
    criminal justice system].)
    Likewise, there is no dispute that defendant spoke to
    Hobson — and so “act[ed] in a manner inconsistent” with the
    exercise of his Miranda rights. (Berghuis v. Thompkins (2010)
    
    560 U.S. 370
    , 385 (Berghuis).) After being apprised of his rights,
    defendant “proceeded to actively participate in the conversation
    with the detective[] — answering questions, asking for
    clarification, and generally contributing to a discussion he knew
    was being tape-recorded.” (Parker, supra, 2 Cal.5th at p. 1216.)
    He did not once mention an attorney. Such conduct suggests
    that defendant “has made a deliberate choice to relinquish the
    protection those rights afford.” (Berghuis, supra, 560 U.S. at
    p. 385.)
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    We now turn to the question whether the waiver and
    confession were voluntary. The waiver in this case is inferred
    from defendant’s confession, and defendant maintains that both
    were involuntarily given because he was coerced. Defendant
    lists a host of “tactics” that he said were “designed to overcome
    [his] decision not to incriminate himself,” including “repeated
    questioning after invocation, lies and misrepresentations
    concerning the evidence, implied promises of leniency and
    benefits, verbal commands to talk, physical touching, and an
    approach of ‘softening-up’ [defendant].”
    Before addressing each of these interrogation techniques,
    we note the following. First, when asked at the April 27
    interview, defendant agreed that he had “always talked to
    [Hobson] voluntarily,” and that Hobson had “never coerced
    [him], threatened [him], [or] promised [him] anything.” (See,
    e.g., People v. Spencer (2018) 5 Cal.5th 642, 673 (Spencer)
    [taking account of the fact the defendant “acknowledged at the
    end of the interview that his confession was ‘free and voluntarily
    given’ ” and that “the officers made him no promises and that
    they did not threaten him”]; People v. Dykes (2009) 
    46 Cal. 4th 731
    , 753 (Dykes) [similar].)
    Second, and more important, defendant himself identified
    why he confessed. The reasons did not involve any interrogation
    tactic that he now claims was coercive. Instead, defendant said
    he confessed because he felt “what [he] did was wrong” and
    because the police had recovered blood from his vehicle’s seat.
    Of all the things Hobson told him, defendant said it was
    Hobson’s disclosure that the police had found blood on his
    truck’s jump seat that “convinced [him] that [he] should talk.”
    Hobson’s statement that the police had found Newhouse’s blood
    on defendant’s jump seat was true and cannot be said to have
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    been coercive. (People v. Holloway (2004) 
    33 Cal. 4th 96
    , 115
    (Holloway) [stating that proper questioning “ ‘may include
    exchanges of information, [and] summaries of evidence . . .’ ”].)
    Defendant’s own words thus undermine his claim that he
    involuntarily confessed because of coercion.
    We nonetheless examine seriatim the complained-of
    interrogation techniques. We do not find that, individually or
    collectively, these techniques served to overbear defendant’s will
    or to render his confessions involuntary. Defendant first claims
    that Hobson improperly “continu[ed] to attempt to convince
    [defendant] to talk on April 21st after repeated invocations of
    [his] right to remain silent.” We will return below to the claim
    that defendant “repeated[ly]” invoked his right to remain silent
    on April 21. For the purpose of determining whether the
    confessions were voluntary, however, it is enough to observe
    that — even assuming Hobson failed to heed defendant’s
    invocations of the right to remain silent on April 21 — that
    failure did not produce the confession on April 22 or the
    statements thereafter. (See People v. Williams (2010) 
    49 Cal. 4th
     405, 437 (Williams) [“A confession is not involuntary unless
    the coercive police conduct and the defendant’s statement are
    causally related”].)
    There is no evidence that what Hobson said to defendant
    after he lapsed into silence — the earliest time defendant claims
    he invoked his right against self-incrimination — caused
    defendant to confess. Hobson had already told defendant about
    the blood found in his truck before defendant stopped
    responding to questions. Thereafter, Hobson repeated the same
    exhortations to tell the truth that he employed before defendant
    stopped talking. Defendant was not swayed by what Hobson
    said, telling Hobson that if he “keep[s] beating on me,” “[t]hen
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    I’m not gonna say nothing. I know me.” And indeed, defendant
    made no inculpatory statement on April 21. It was not until the
    following day, after a night away from any importuning by
    Hobson, that defendant made the inculpatory statements.
    In light of these facts, we find that Hobson’s “continuing
    to attempt to convince [defendant] to talk on April 21” did not
    cause defendant to confess and so did not render his confession
    on April 22 or thereafter involuntary. (See People v. Carrington
    (2009) 
    47 Cal. 4th 145
    , 172 (Carrington) [“we conclude that
    Sergeant Sherman’s comments did not affect defendant’s
    decision to confess to the murder of Esparza, because she
    maintained her innocence during the remainder of the second
    interview and, during the third interview, revealed that she
    already was aware that [what the sergeant said was false]”];
    Rundle, supra, 43 Cal.4th at p. 114 [“Coercive police tactics by
    themselves do not render a defendant’s statements involuntary
    if the defendant’s free will was not in fact overborne by the
    coercion and his decision to speak instead was based upon some
    other consideration”].)
    We come to the same conclusion with regard to defendant’s
    assertions that Hobson engaged in “lies and misrepresentations
    concerning the evidence, implied promises of leniency and
    benefits, verbal commands to talk, physical touching, and an
    approach of ‘softening-up’ [defendant].” Defendant complains
    that Hobson lied to him when he told him that the eight-ball
    keychain had been “ ‘tested’ and found to have been
    manufactured” later than when defendant said he found the
    item. Defendant, however, expressly disclaimed that the eight-
    ball keychain in itself caused him to confess, answering “[n]o”
    when Hobson asked, “What if all I had was the 8 ball? . . . Would
    you have confessed?”       Moreover, “[t]he use of deceptive
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    statements during an interrogation . . . does not invalidate a
    confession unless the deception is ‘ “ ‘of a type reasonably likely
    to procure an untrue statement.’ ” ’ ” (Carrington, supra, 47
    Cal.4th at p. 172.) We do not think that Hobson’s representation
    about the keychain is of such a type. (See People v. Smith (2007)
    
    40 Cal. 4th 483
    , 505-506 (Smith) [listing cases in which courts
    have found similar deceptive interrogation tactics permissible].)
    Defendant also claims that Hobson misrepresented that
    “three witnesses will testify” to seeing defendant’s vehicle in
    Crawford’s neighborhood. Defendant characterizes this as a
    “lie,” because “[n]o such witnesses were ever called.” Yet, weeks
    before he confessed, defendant himself admitted that he had
    driven down Crawford’s street several times.            Hobson’s
    statement about the three witnesses, whether or not true, thus
    was not likely to procure an unreliable admission. (Carrington,
    supra, 47 Cal.4th at p. 172.)
    Defendant attempts to bolster his argument about the
    supposed misrepresentations by claiming that Hobson
    “maximize[d] the psychological effect of his lies by repeatedly
    insisting that he could be trusted.” We do not find that such
    statements are either inherently coercive or here served to
    undermine defendant’s will. Certainly, however many times
    Hobson told defendant that he could trust him, defendant was
    not inclined to believe Hobson or confess because of the “lies.”
    We should not forget that defendant was a grown man,
    experienced with the criminal justice system, physically
    healthy, and displaying no indication that he was especially
    susceptible to Hobson’s representations. As such, defendant
    was rather well placed to resist interrogation. (See, e.g., Dykes,
    supra, 46 Cal.4th at p. 752.)
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    We are likewise unpersuaded that Hobson “falsely told
    [defendant] that the authorities would give him favorable
    consideration if [he] confessed.” Hobson told defendant no such
    thing. The message Hobson conveyed was that both he and the
    district attorney wanted to know defendant’s “story” and why
    defendant did what he did. Such sentiment cannot fairly be
    taken to imply that the district attorney would give defendant
    favorable treatment. (See Carrington, supra, 47 Cal.4th at
    p. 174 [finding that the interrogators’ statements “did not
    constitute a promise of leniency” when “[t]he interviewing
    officers did not suggest they could influence the decisions of the
    district attorney, but simply informed defendant that full
    cooperation might be beneficial in an unspecified way”].) And
    even if what Hobson said might be construed as suggesting that
    defendant’s version of events could make a difference in how he
    was prosecuted, this was not false. (Holloway, supra, 33 Cal.4th
    at p. 116 [observing that some circumstances “can reduce the
    degree of a homicide or, at the least, serve as arguments for
    mitigation in the penalty phase”].) In any event, Hobson “did no
    more than tell defendant of the benefit that might ‘ “flow[]
    naturally from a truthful and honest course of conduct.” ’ ”
    (Ibid.) Such statements did not render defendant’s subsequent
    statements involuntary. (Id. at p. 115.)
    Defendant also complains that Hobson “physically
    touched [him] and told him that talking to Hobson was
    required.” We do not see how the physical touching that
    occurred here was improper. Defendant makes “no claim of
    physical intimidation or deprivation.” (Holloway, supra, 33
    Cal.4th at p. 114.) Instead, he objects to the occasional touches
    on his person because they were purportedly “psychologically
    powerful.” Yet, even if the touches constituted “psychological
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    ploys” and here “establish[ed] a false sense of rapport, intimacy,
    and caring,” we still do not think that they were so coercive as
    to “ ‘tend to produce a statement that is both involuntary and
    unreliable.’ ” (Smith, supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 501.)
    In addition, although Hobson said things like, “you got to
    talk to me man,” “[i]t’s not going away,” and, “[w]e have to deal
    with it,” it is clear that that Hobson was not requiring defendant
    talk to him but exhorting him to do so. Moreover, defendant’s
    conduct indicates that he knew he did not have to talk to
    Hobson. Even if his refusal to continue answering questions
    was not immediately honored on April 21, still defendant
    managed to stop the interrogation. He did not begin talking
    again until the next morning, and he did not give a full
    confession until Hobson transported him to a place (from the jail
    to the police station) more to his liking.
    Finally, defendant relies on People v. Honeycutt (1977) 
    20 Cal. 3d 150
     to argue that, because the waiver came on the heels
    of Hobson’s “ ‘clever softening-up’ of [defendant] without
    advising him of his rights,” the waiver was not valid. In
    Honeycutt, we said that “[w]hen the waiver results from a clever
    softening-up of a defendant through disparagement of the victim
    and ingratiating conversation, the subsequent decision to waive
    without a Miranda warning must be deemed to be involuntary
    . . . .” (20 Cal.3d at p. 160.) That holding finds no application in
    this case: Hobson did not disparage the victims, engage in
    conversations that could be fairly characterized as
    “ingratiating,” or fail to give defendant Miranda warnings
    before he confessed. Moreover, Honeycutt has been limited to its
    facts. In People v. Scott (2011) 
    52 Cal. 4th 452
    , 478, we identified
    “the two salient features of Honeycutt” as involving (1) an
    interrogating officer who had a prior relationship with the
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    defendant and who sought to “ingratiate” himself “by discussing
    ‘unrelated past events and former acquaintances’ ” and (2) the
    officer disparaging the victim. (Id. at pp. 477-478.) When these
    two features are not present, we found reliance on Honeycutt to
    be “misplaced.” (Id. at p. 478; see also People v. Michaels (2002)
    
    28 Cal. 4th 486
    , 511 (Michaels) [rejecting the defendant’s
    reliance on Honeycutt when the facts presented “are not at all
    like Honeycutt, which . . . involved ‘an unrecorded 30-minute,
    pre-Miranda conversation, discussing mutual acquaintances,
    past events and finally the victim’ ”]; People v. Kelly (1990) 
    51 Cal. 3d 931
    , 954 [finding Honeycutt “clearly distinguishable”
    when “[n]o misconduct of [the type described in Honeycutt]
    occurred here”].) It is likewise misplaced in this case.
    iii. Failure to advise on April 22
    Defendant alternatively argues that we should not focus
    on the confessions obtained after the Miranda advisement on
    April 22 but rather on the events preceding that advisement.
    Specifically, defendant calls our attention to the fact Hobson did
    not initially provide him with Miranda warnings when he
    approached him on April 22.11 Only after defendant made two
    inculpatory statements — “I’m nothing but an animal, and I
    don’t deserve to live” and “Nothing can justify what I did” — did
    Hobson read him his rights. Defendant claims that this shows
    that Hobson engaged in an impermissible “question first, warn
    later” technique that renders the warnings ineffective. As such,
    11
    Defendant seems to assume that the Miranda advisement
    was necessary on the morning of April 22. It is not entirely clear
    that this is so, as defendant was reminded of his rights on April
    21 and readvisement the next day may not have been necessary.
    (See, e.g., Williams, supra, 49 Cal.4th at p. 434.) Nonetheless,
    we engage with defendant’s arguments as he has laid them out.
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    statements made after the warnings must be excluded. We
    cannot agree.
    Under the high court’s precedent, the mere fact that a
    defendant has made unwarned admissions does not render
    subsequent warned confessions inadmissible. (See generally,
    Oregon v. Elstad (1985) 
    470 U.S. 298
     (Elstad); Seibert, supra,
    
    542 U.S. 600
    .) In Elstad, supra, 470 U.S. at page 318, the court
    held that “a suspect who has once responded to unwarned yet
    uncoercive questioning is not thereby disabled from waiving his
    rights and confessing after he has been given the requisite
    Miranda warnings.” Instead, as long as both the initial
    unwarned statement and the subsequent warned statement are
    voluntary, the warned statement may be deemed the product of
    a defendant’s “rational and intelligent choice” to confess and so
    is admissible. (Id. at pp. 314, 318; see also Williams, supra, 49
    Cal.4th at p. 448 [“Even when a first statement is taken in the
    absence of proper advisements and is incriminating, so long as
    the first statement was voluntary a subsequent voluntary
    confession ordinarily is not tainted simply because it was
    procured after a Miranda violation”].)
    Given that we already found the warned confession in this
    case to be voluntary, we need only examine whether defendant’s
    unwarned statements were also voluntary. The trial court here
    found “no evidence that defendant’s will was overcome” when he
    made the unwarned statements. We agree. The unwarned
    portion of the interview on April 22 was short. Hobson testified
    that his entire conversation with defendant at the jail lasted no
    more than 15 minutes and defendant made the two inculpatory
    statements within the first five minutes. During this time,
    defendant was unrestrained and sitting in an employee break
    room. Prior to defendant’s utterance of the two inculpatory
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    admissions, Hobson’s statements to defendant that most
    directly related to the crimes were “the situation . . . wasn’t
    going to go away” and Hobson “needed him to tell . . . his side of
    the story.” Consistent with our previous explanation, we do not
    find such statements to be coercive.
    For his part, defendant appeared to have readily
    cooperated. When Hobson told defendant that he wanted him
    to tell the truth, defendant answered, “Okay,” but requested to
    be taken “someplace else” first. Hobson then said to defendant
    that before he “transported him back to the police department,”
    he “wanted to make sure he understood exactly what we were
    going to be doing and the questions that I was going to be asking
    him.” Hobson thereafter advised defendant of his Miranda
    rights, and defendant admitted to being responsible for the
    disappearance and death of Newhouse and Crawford. Nothing
    about this exchange suggests that defendant’s statements prior
    to receiving the advisement were involuntary. As such,
    although the unwarned statements must be suppressed (and
    they were), the warned confession on April 22 and subsequent
    statements were properly admitted.
    Defendant, however, argues that Elstad does not apply
    because “Hobson deliberately used a ‘question first,’ warn later
    technique in violation of Missouri v. Seibert.” In Seibert, the
    high court confronted a situation where the interrogating officer
    “made a ‘conscious decision’ to withhold Miranda warnings.”
    (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at pp. 605-606.) The police officer
    testified that he did so in accordance with “an interrogation
    technique he had been taught: question first, then give the
    warnings, and then repeat the question ‘until I get the answer
    that [the suspect] already provided once.’ ” (Id. at p. 606.)
    Another police officer testified that his department “promoted”
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    “the strategy of withholding Miranda warnings until after
    interrogating and drawing out a confession.” (Id. at p. 609.)
    Under such circumstances, a majority of the high court
    found the warned confession inadmissible. (Seibert, supra, 542
    U.S. at p. 604 (plur. opn.); id. at p. 618 (conc. opn. of Kennedy,
    J.).)   The court fractured, however, on why that is so. A
    plurality of four justices explained that “when interrogators
    question first and warn later” (id. at p. 611 (plur. opn.)), the
    later, warned confession is admissible only if             “in the
    circumstances the Miranda warnings given could reasonably be
    found effective.” (Id. at p. 612, fn. 4 (plur. opn.).) Under the
    facts of the case, the four justices concluded that the
    circumstances “do not reasonably support a conclusion that the
    warnings given could have served their purpose,” and the
    postwarning statements therefore were inadmissible. (Id. at
    pp. 616-617 (plur. opn.).)
    Justice Kennedy concurred in the judgment but proposed
    a different rule. In Justice Kennedy’s view, the plurality’s test
    “cuts too broadly.” (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at pp. 621-622 (conc.
    opn. of Kennedy, J.).) Justice Kennedy instead “would apply a
    narrower test applicable only in the infrequent case, such as we
    have here, in which the two-step interrogation technique was
    used in a calculated way to undermine the Miranda warning.”
    (Id. at p. 622 (conc. opn. of Kennedy, J.).) Under that approach,
    where the “deliberate two-step strategy” was not employed,
    “[t]he admissibility of postwarning statements should continue
    to be governed by the principles of Elstad.” (Ibid.)
    The fractured nature of Seibert has given rise to a debate
    over whether it is the plurality’s opinion or Justice Kennedy’s
    concurrence that provides the controlling standard. (Compare
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    U.S. v. Ray (6th Cir. 2015) 
    803 F.3d 244
    , 272 [“we adopt Seibert
    plurality’s multi-factor test for this Circuit and direct the
    district court to apply this test”] with U.S. v. Capers (2d Cir.
    2010) 
    627 F.3d 470
    , 476 [“this Court joined the Eleventh, Fifth,
    Ninth, Third, and Eighth Circuits in applying Justice Kennedy’s
    approach in Seibert”]; U.S. v. Kiam (3d Cir. 2006) 
    432 F.3d 524
    ,
    532; U.S. v. Mashburn (4th Cir. 2005) 
    406 F.3d 303
    , 309
    [“Justice Kennedy’s opinion therefore represents the holding of
    the Seibert Court”]; U.S. v. Courtney (5th Cir. 2006) 
    463 F.3d 333
    , 338; U.S. v. Ollie (8th Cir. 2006) 
    442 F.3d 1135
    , 1142; U.S.
    v. Williams (9th Cir. 2006) 
    435 F.3d 1148
    , 1157-1158; U.S. v.
    Street (11th Cir. 2006) 
    472 F.3d 1298
    , 1313.) We need not decide
    the matter here, as the result in this case would be the same
    under either approach. (See U.S. v. Faust (1st Cir. 2017) 
    853 F.3d 39
    , 48, fn. 6 [“Because we find that Faust’s argument fails
    under either [the plurality or the concurrence’s] approach, there
    is no need to address this question here]; U.S. v. Heron (7th Cir.
    2009) 
    564 F.3d 879
    , 885 [similar]; U.S. v. Carrizales-Toledo
    (10th Cir. 2006) 
    454 F.3d 1142
    , 1151 [similar]; U.S. v. Straker
    (D.C. Cir. 2015) 
    800 F.3d 570
    , 617 [similar].)
    Under the plurality’s approach, the relevant inquiry in a
    “question first” scenario is “whether it would be reasonable to
    find that in these circumstances the warnings could function
    ‘effectively’ as Miranda requires.” (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at
    pp. 611-612 (plur. opn.).) In other words, “could the warnings
    effectively advise the suspect that he had a real choice about
    giving an admissible statement at that juncture? Could they
    reasonably convey that he could choose to stop talking even if he
    had talked earlier?” (Id. at p. 612 (plur. opn.).) In making this
    determination, the trial court is to consider a number of factors,
    including “the completeness and detail of the questions and
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    answers in the first round of interrogation, the overlapping
    content of the two statements, the timing and setting of the first
    and the second, the continuity of police personnel, and the
    degree to which the interrogator’s questions treated the second
    round as continuous with the first.” (Id. at p. 615 (plur. opn.).)
    A consideration of these factors cuts in favor of admitting
    defendant’s confessions.        Although all of the relevant
    questioning here was conducted by a single person (Hobson)
    over the course of a single day (thus satisfying the “continuity of
    police personnel” factor), there was no extended questioning
    before Miranda warnings were given; defendant’s prewarning
    responses, though undoubtedly incriminating, were nonspecific
    and lacking in detail; and, at defendant’s request, there was a
    change of setting before he gave the detailed confession that was
    ultimately used against him at trial. (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S.
    at pp. 615-616 (plur. opn.).) Moreover, the conversation that
    preceded the second round of interrogation alerted defendant
    that he had a “real choice” whether to follow up on his earlier
    incriminating statements or “stop talking.” (Id. at p. 612 (plur.
    opn.).) Before reading defendant his rights, Hobson informed
    defendant that he “wanted to make sure [defendant] understood
    exactly what we were going to be doing and the questions I was
    going to be asking . . . so we didn’t spend another two hours of
    wasted time.” Hobson’s statements reasonably signaled to
    defendant that it was up to him whether he wanted to answer
    Hobson’s questions or, alternatively, to “waste” Hobson’s time.
    Under these circumstances, we conclude that the warnings
    “function[ed] ‘effectively’ as Miranda requires.” (Seibert, supra,
    542 U.S. at pp. 612-613 (plur. opn.).)
    Defendant’s statement was likewise admissible under
    Justice Kennedy’s approach. According to Justice Kennedy,
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    Seibert does not control unless Hobson employed “the two-step
    interrogation technique . . . in a calculated way to undermine
    the Miranda warning.” (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at pp. 622
    (conc. opn. of Kennedy, J.).) We find no such deliberateness
    here.
    Although Justice Kennedy “did not articulate how a court
    should determine whether an interrogator used a deliberate
    two-step strategy,” the facts of Seibert and Elstad afford us some
    guidance. (U.S. v. Williams, supra, 435 F.3d at p. 1158.) On the
    one hand, we have nothing here like the circumstances of
    Seibert. There is no evidence that the San Luis Obispo Police
    Department or District Attorney’s Office had a policy of
    “withholding Miranda warnings until after interrogating and
    drawing out a confession,” or that Hobson was following such a
    policy when he interrogated defendant. (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S.
    at p. 609 (plur. opn.).)
    On the other hand, like the officers in Elstad, Hobson did
    not provide warnings because he failed to “realize that a suspect
    is in custody and warnings are required.” (Seibert, supra, 542
    U.S. at p. 620 (conc. opn. of Kennedy, J.); Elstad, supra, 470 U.S.
    at pp. 315-316.) Hobson testified that he did not advise
    defendant of his Miranda rights on April 21 and did not
    immediately provide him with those rights when he approached
    him on April 22 because defendant “was not in custody on the
    . . . disappearance of Rachel Newhouse and Aundria Crawford.
    He was in custody on a parole violation.” In line with Justice
    Kennedy’s identification of a failure to “realize that a suspect is
    in custody and warnings are required” as a scenario properly
    analyzed under Elstad principles, we find that Siebert does not
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    control here. (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at p. 620 (conc. opn. of
    Kennedy, J.).)12
    Other aspects of Hobson’s conduct persuade us that he did
    not engage in “a two-step questioning technique based on a
    deliberate violation of Miranda.” (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at
    p. 620 (conc. opn. of Kennedy, J.).) Significantly, Hobson
    advised defendant of his Miranda rights before defendant
    confessed. (See Bobby v. Dixon (2011) 
    565 U.S. 23
    , 31 [“unlike
    in Seibert, there is no concern here that police gave Dixon
    Miranda warnings and then led him to repeat an earlier murder
    confession, because there was no earlier confession to repeat”].)
    Hobson also did not attempt to use defendant’s prewarning
    12
    Of course, Hobson did provide defendant with Miranda
    warnings on the morning of April 22 after defendant made
    vaguely incriminating statements. This raises the question of
    whether Hobson thought that defendant’s custody status had
    changed at that point. On this issue, we note that Hobson did
    not tie his recitation of the Miranda warnings to defendant’s
    custody status. Instead, he described the sequence of events in
    this way: After defendant asked to be taken “someplace else,”
    he (Hobson) “told [defendant] before I transported him back to
    the police department I wanted to make sure he understood
    exactly what we were going to be doing and the questions that I
    was going to be asking him so we didn’t spend another two hours
    of wasted time. [¶] So at that point I advised Rex Krebs of his
    Miranda rights, as read from the DOJ form, and then I asked
    him the two questions.”        Thus, although Hobson never
    pinpointed the precise moment he believed defendant’s custody
    status changed, the timing of his advisement is consistent with
    the (mistaken) belief that (1) defendant became “in custody”
    after incriminating himself in response to Hobson’s “two
    questions,” or (2) defendant acquired “in custody” status after
    being transported to the police station, when Hobson got to
    “doing” what he was going to do and asking “the questions [he]
    was going to be asking.”
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    statements to induce him to talk after advising him of his rights
    under Miranda. (Bobby v. Dixon, supra, 565 U.S. at p. 31 [“[n]or
    is there any evidence that police used Dixon’s earlier
    [unwarned] admission to forgery to induce him to waive his right
    to silence later”]; contra, Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at p. 605 (plur.
    opn.) [interrogating officer “confronted [the suspect] with her
    prewarning statements”].)
    To be sure, Hobson could have read defendant his
    Miranda rights before defendant made inculpatory statements
    or agreed to tell the truth. Yet simply because an officer could
    have given an advisement earlier is not enough to show that he
    delayed “in a calculated way to undermine the Miranda
    warning.” (Seibert, supra, 542 U.S. at p. 622 (conc. opn. of
    Kennedy, J.); see People v. San Nicolas (2004) 
    34 Cal. 4th 614
    ,
    637, 639 [no finding of deliberateness despite the officer stating
    “[i]f you want to talk to me, I’ll advise you of your rights” but
    then forgoing the advisement when the suspect indicated that
    he wanted to talk to an attorney first].) Likewise, that
    advisement did issue after acquiescence to tell the truth does
    not mean that the officer sought to undermine Miranda. (See
    Williams, supra, 49 Cal.4th at p. 448 [reasoning that the
    principles of Elstad apply even when advisement came only
    after “the defendant’s letting ‘the cat out of the bag’ ”].) Last,
    even if Hobson had no good reason for failing to give Miranda
    warnings when he first approached defendant on April 22, there
    is no ground to believe Hobson acted deliberately “to obscure
    both the practical and legal significance of the admonition when
    finally given” or that his conduct had such an effect. (Seibert,
    supra, 542 U.S. at p. 620 (conc. opn. of Kennedy, J.).)
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    In light of the preceding, we find that defendant’s warned
    confessions were properly admitted despite his prior unwarned
    statements.
    iv. Failure to heed invocation on April 21
    Defendant further argues that the trial court erred in
    admitting the statements he made on April 22 and thereafter
    because Hobson failed to honor defendant’s invocation of his
    right to remain silent on April 21. We agree that Hobson should
    have stopped his interrogation on April 21 sooner than he did.
    However, in light of the facts that defendant made no
    inculpatory statements on April 21, that Hobson did not
    overcome defendant’s will that day or any time thereafter, that
    Hobson’s failure to honor defendant’s invocation was not
    causally related to defendant’s subsequent decision to confess,
    and that, at the time of his confession on the next day,
    defendant’s right to cut off questioning was honored, we find no
    error in the admission of the confession.
    As the trial court found and the prosecution conceded,
    defendant invoked his right to remain silent on April 21.13 Like
    the trial court, we need not decide the precise moment when
    defendant made his invocation, except to observe that it was
    later than when defendant claims he first asserted his right but
    earlier than when Hobson said he understood defendant to have
    done so.
    13
    Hobson testified that he thought defendant asserted his
    right to remain silent when he stated near the end of the
    interview on April 21, “Nothing to say.” The prosecution’s
    opposition to the motion to suppress acknowledged that
    defendant had invoked his right at “the end of the interview.”
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    Defendant did not invoke his right to silence by merely
    saying nothing for 15 minutes while Hobson talked. Prior to the
    conversation arriving at this point, defendant had waived his
    Miranda rights — first by signing a waiver on April 1 and again
    by talking to Hobson after being reminded of his rights on April
    21. (See, e.g., North Carolina v. Butler (1979) 
    441 U.S. 369
    , 373.)
    Because defendant had previously waived his rights, a
    subsequent invocation must be unambiguous to be effective.
    (E.g., Berghuis, supra, 560 U.S. at pp. 381-382; People v.
    Martinez (2010) 
    47 Cal. 4th 911
    , 948 (Martinez).) In essence, he
    needed to say “that he wanted to remain silent or that he did not
    want to talk with the police.” (Berghuis, supra, 560 U.S. at
    p. 382 [holding that a suspect who did neither of these things
    following an earlier waiver “did not invoke his right to remain
    silent”].) In the absence of such unambiguous statements,
    Hobson was free to continue questioning defendant. (Martinez,
    supra, 47 Cal.4th at p. 948 [“ ‘Faced with an ambiguous or
    equivocal statement, law enforcement officers are not required
    . . . either to ask clarifying questions or to cease questioning
    altogether’ ”].)
    Likewise, when defendant requested that Hobson “[p]ut
    me down in a holding cell and let me think,” he did not
    unambiguously invoke his right to remain silent. Rather, he
    likely “merely asked for a break from questioning.” (Rundle,
    supra, 43 Cal.4th at p. 116.) Because defendant was then
    housed at the county jail and so presumably could not be left in
    the police station’s holding cell for long, the request to be put
    back in a holding cell (so he could “think”) is reasonably
    interpreted as a request to be left alone for a moment.
    Interpreted this way, the statement stands in contrast to what
    defendant said when Hobson returned from giving him a five-
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    minute break: “Take me back to jail.” At that point, defendant
    has arguably indicated that, beyond wanting a temporary break
    from questioning, “he did not want to talk with the police.”
    (Berghuis, supra, 560 U.S. at p. 382.) And even if this later
    statement was ambiguous in the context of defendant’s previous
    request for a short break (see Williams, supra, 49 Cal.4th at
    p. 429), any ambiguity was resolved when defendant said, for
    the first of two times, “Nothing to say.” By this point at the
    latest, defendant had unambiguously invoked his right to
    remain silent and Hobson should have stopped the
    interrogation.
    Hobson did not stop. Instead, he continued questioning
    defendant until defendant once again asserted that he had
    “nothing to say.” Hobson testified that he understood defendant
    to have invoked only at this point, when defendant repeated
    himself. Even with this understanding, however, Hobson asked
    defendant still more questions while transporting him back to
    jail.
    Yet, despite the failure to honor defendant’s right to
    remain silent on April 21, Hobson made no contact with
    defendant for the next 18 hours. Moreover, as the trial court
    found, defendant did not foreclose the possibility of Hobson
    returning the next day. Indeed, when Hobson returned the
    following morning, defendant showed no reluctance to talk,
    readily answering questions and voluntarily confessing.
    The question is whether Hobson’s failure to honor
    defendant’s invocation to remain silent on April 21 renders
    inadmissible the statements obtained on April 22 and
    thereafter. In Michigan v. Mosley (1975) 
    423 U.S. 96
    , 104
    (Mosley), the high court held “the admissibility of statements
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    obtained after the person in custody has decided to remain silent
    depends under Miranda on whether his ‘right to cut off
    questioning’ was ‘scrupulously honored.’ ”14 The court did not
    address a situation in which the right to cut off questioning was
    eventually, but not immediately, honored.
    In the years since Mosley was decided, we have never
    found that an initial failure to honor a defendant’s invocation —
    whether of the to remain silent or the right to have counsel
    present — poses a categorical bar to the admission of any
    subsequent statement regardless of the circumstances. Instead,
    in case after case, we have held that despite the initial failure to
    14
    California courts initially did not follow Mosley, rejecting
    it in favor of the rule that “after a defendant has once
    demonstrated he does not wish to waive his privilege against
    self-incrimination, the police cannot lawfully subject him to a
    new round of interrogation even if they repeat the Miranda
    warnings.” (People v. Pettingill (1978) 
    21 Cal. 3d 231
    , 238, 251.)
    In 1982, however, California voters approved Proposition 8 and
    amended the state Constitution to add a “Right to Truth-in-
    Evidence.” Under this provision, “relevant evidence shall not be
    excluded in any criminal proceeding.” (Cal. Const., Art. I § 28,
    subd. (f)(2).)
    Although we have never expressly held that Proposition 8
    abrogated Pettingill, our cases have clearly nodded in this
    direction. (See People v. May (1988) 
    44 Cal. 3d 309
    , 318 [“Given
    the probable aim of the voters in adopting section 28[(f)(2)], . . .
    it is not reasonably likely that the California voters intended to
    preserve, in the form of a ‘statutory’ privilege, a judicially
    created exclusionary rule expressly rejected by the United
    States Supreme Court under the federal Constitution”]; In re
    Lance W. (1985) 
    37 Cal. 3d 873
    , 889 [similar]; Martinez, supra,
    47 Cal.4th at p. 950 [applying Mosley without mentioning
    Pettingill].) Perhaps for this reason, defendant does not seek to
    rely on Pettingill, and we accept that the analysis should
    proceed without reference to the Pettingill rule.
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    honor a Miranda invocation, a voluntary confession obtained
    during a subsequent interrogation is admissible. Thus, in People
    v. Bradford (1997) 
    14 Cal. 4th 1005
    , 1040-1043 (Bradford), we
    held that a warned confession was admissible despite the fact
    that (1) a day earlier, detectives had persisted in interrogating
    the defendant after he answered, “ ‘No. I want my lawyer,’ ” in
    response to the questions, “ ‘Do you wish to give up the right to
    remain silent? Do you want to talk to me about what happened
    last night?’ ” (id. at p. 1025), and (2) the continued questioning
    produced an admission that the defendant killed the victim. We
    reasoned that suppression was not necessary because the first
    confession was “ ‘unaccompanied by any actual coercion or other
    circumstances calculated to undermine the suspect’s ability to
    exercise his free will’ ” and the second (warned) confession was
    “ ‘knowingly and voluntarily made.’ ” (Id. at p. 1040.) We
    likewise did not suppress warned statements in People v. Storm
    (2002) 
    28 Cal. 4th 1007
    , 1039, despite the police having ignored
    the defendant’s invocation of the right of counsel during an
    interrogation two days earlier. We reached the same result in
    People v. Sims (1993) 
    5 Cal. 4th 405
    , 444, even though the police
    there interrogated the suspect despite his clear statement from
    the day before that he “would not waive his [Miranda] rights.”
    (Id. at p. 437.) In contrast, we suppressed the defendant’s
    confession in a case where we found the police not only
    “intentionally continued interrogation . . . in spite of defendant’s
    invocation,” but also induced an involuntary confession. (People
    v. Neal (2003) 
    31 Cal. 4th 63
    , 68, 74.)
    In light of our precedent, we conclude that Hobson’s
    failure to honor defendant’s invocation of the right to remain
    silent on April 21 does not compel the suppression of the
    voluntary, warned statements taken on April 22 and thereafter.
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    Apart from his failure to immediately cease questioning,
    Hobson’s interrogation techniques were not coercive.               In
    addition, no “ ‘other circumstances’ ” existed to “ ‘to undermine
    the suspect’s ability to exercise his free will.’ ” (Bradford, supra,
    14 Cal.4th at p. 1040.) Indeed, defendant’s will was not
    overcome on April 21 or at any time thereafter. Although
    defendant was subdued during the April 21 interrogation and
    cried during the drive back to the county jail, he showed a clear
    ability to exercise his free will, including by stopping the
    interrogation, refusing to incriminate himself, controlling when
    he would be dropped off at the jail (by requesting that Hobson
    drive around so that he could smoke), and directing Hobson to
    turn into the jail despite Hobson’s last request for defendant to
    take him to the bodies. Likewise, as explained ante, in part
    II.B.1.ii, he exercised his free will when he voluntarily confessed
    on April 22 after receiving his Miranda advisement.
    Nor should we forget that there was a period of about 18
    hours in which defendant was subjected to no questioning after
    invoking his right to remain silent. (Contra, People v. Peracchi
    (2001) 
    86 Cal. App. 4th 353
    , 362 [finding that a confession should
    have been suppressed because “[d]espite Peracchi’s invocation of
    his right to remain silent, the officer persisted in asking him
    questions regarding why he did not wish to speak with the
    officers at that time without even a momentary cessation in
    questioning”]; Anderson v. Terhune (9th Cir. 2008) 
    516 F.3d 781
    ,
    791 [suppressing a confession when the court was “not faced
    with a situation where there was a break in questioning after
    the Miranda invocation”].) This was substantially longer than
    the two-hour period in Mosley in which the suspect was left
    alone and the court found questioning could be reinitiated.
    (Mosley, supra, 423 U.S. at p. 104.)
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    Finally, even though he did not do so immediately, Hobson
    did honor defendant’s right to cut off questioning. On April 21,
    Hobson asked if he could return to talk to defendant the next
    day if he did not hear back from him, and defendant replied
    “Maybe I’ll deal with it tomorrow,” or “Maybe. I’ll deal with it
    tomorrow.” Whatever defendant’s exact response was, it seems
    that Hobson could reasonably have understood it as conveying
    that he could return the next day — if only to find out whether
    defendant was willing to talk. When Hobson came to the jail on
    April 22, defendant expressed no desire to remain silent, thus
    indicating that he had decided that he would talk.
    We reject defendant’s reliance on People v. Montano (1991)
    
    226 Cal. App. 3d 914
    . In Montano, the court found that
    Montano’s confession was actually coerced. In that case, not
    only did police officers ignore Montano’s double-digit number of
    invocations, they “aggravated the situation by using their
    common religion to conjure up in defendant’s mind the picture
    of confessing to avoid going to hell.” (Id. at p. 935.) Moreover,
    the tactics “succeeded because the officers were not employing
    them on a person who had a history of experience with police
    interrogation or on someone who in the circumstances would
    have unlimited powers of resistance. At the time of the
    interrogation defendant was 18 years old, having entered the
    country illegally 8 months before.” (Id. at pp. 935-936.) In these
    circumstances, Montano’s will was overcome and he “tacitly
    admitted that he alone was responsible for the victim’s murder.”
    (Id. at p. 937.) In contrast, defendant here was not merely 18
    years old; he did have “a history of experience with police
    interrogation” (id. at p. 935); and he made no admission during
    the interrogation in which he invoked his right to silence. (Ibid.)
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    Defendant simply was not coerced, and Montano supplies no
    basis to suppress the confessions at issue here.
    To summarize, defendant was at no time coerced. He was
    given an 18-hour break from interrogation after invoking his
    right to remain silent; he left open the possibility for the officer
    to reinitiate contact, and upon being contacted, cooperated with
    the interrogation. When he confessed, his confessions were
    preceded by Miranda warnings that effectively apprised him of
    his rights. Without suggesting that all of the above must be
    present or that any of those factors is sufficient, we conclude
    that under these circumstances, the trial court did not err in
    admitting the postadvisement confession obtained on April 22
    and thereafter.
    2. Independent evidence of rape and sodomy of
    Crawford
    Defendant next argues his convictions for the rape and
    sodomy of Crawford must be reversed because “insufficient
    evidence aside from [his] confession exists to support” the
    convictions. Defendant’s argument relies on the corpus delicti
    rule, which “requires corroboration of the defendant’s
    extrajudicial utterances insofar as they indicate a crime was
    committed, and forces the People to supply, as part of their
    burden of proof in every criminal prosecution, some evidence of
    the corpus delicti aside from, or in addition to, such statements.”
    (People v. Alvarez (2002) 
    27 Cal. 4th 1161
    , 1178, italics omitted
    (Alvarez).) We find that defendant’s confession was adequately
    corroborated in this case.
    “The amount of independent proof of a crime required [to
    satisfy the corpus delicti rule] is quite small.” (People v. Jones
    (1998) 
    17 Cal. 4th 279
    , 301.) The prosecution need not adduce
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    “independent evidence of every physical act constituting an
    element of an offense.” (Id. at p. 303.) Instead, it need only
    make “some indication that the charged crime actually
    happened,” so as to ensure “that the accused is not admitting to
    a crime that never occurred.” (People v. Jennings (1991) 
    53 Cal. 3d 334
    , 368 (Jennings).)
    In challenging his convictions for the rape and sodomy of
    Crawford, defendant’s sole contention is that there was no
    independent evidence “corroborating that she was in fact
    sexually assaulted.” He concedes that there was “sufficient
    independent evidence of rape against Newhouse since her body
    was naked from the waist down when found.” In contrast, he
    asserts there was insufficient evidence as to Crawford because
    “Crawford’s body was fully clothed in sweat pants and a
    sweatshirt.” The Attorney General disputes that Crawford was
    fully clothed when she was found. Dr. Sterbenz, the pathologist
    who observed the exhumation of the victims’ bodies, testified
    that Crawford was found “partially clothed,” wearing “black
    sweat pants” and “a black sweatshirt” with “a logo on it for the
    Hard Rock cafe.” Crawford’s mother testified that her daughter
    normally wore to bed “T-shirt and panties,” items that were
    missing when her body was found. She also testified that the
    Hard Rock Cafe sweatshirt was a “souvenir-type sweatshirt”
    that her daughter would “just wear . . . for special occasions.”
    The testimony reasonably gives rise to the inference that
    Crawford’s body was found “dressed differently” from when she
    was taken from her house. Crawford was taken from her house
    early in the morning after having gotten out of bed, as
    independently corroborated by the state of her bed and the fact
    that she was talking to a friend by phone until 2:46 a.m. on
    March 11, 1999. Based on the timing and her mother’s
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    testimony, the jury could have concluded that Crawford was
    wearing underwear and a T-shirt when defendant abducted her.
    Yet, her body was found with no underwear, no T-shirt, and
    clothed in a “special occasion[]” sweatshirt that she did not
    normally wear to bed. Thus, there was circumstantial evidence
    that Crawford was “ ‘disrobed’ ” and “ ‘covered . . . again’ ” after
    she was kidnapped. (People v. Ochoa (1998) 
    19 Cal. 4th 353
    ,
    404.) This evidence suffices to satisfy the corpus delicti of
    rape.15 (Id. at pp. 404-406 [finding the requisite corpus delicti
    for rape when the victim was found with her pants on backwards
    and her sweatshirt inside out, allowing for the inference that
    she was disrobed and reclothed]; see also Alvarez, supra, 27
    Cal.4th at p. 1171 [“[t]he independent proof may be
    circumstantial and need not be beyond a reasonable doubt”].)
    Because the People have established the corpus delicti for
    rape, they have also established the corpus delicti for sodomy.
    (See People v. Jones, supra, 17 Cal.4th at p. 302-304 [finding the
    corpus delicti for oral copulation satisfied although there was no
    physical evidence on victim’s mouth because there was semen in
    the victim’s other orifices and “we have never interpreted the
    corpus delicti rule so strictly that independent evidence of every
    physical act constituting an element of an offense is necessary”];
    accord, Robbins, supra, 45 Cal.3d at p. 886.) Accordingly, we
    affirm the convictions for the rape and sodomy of Crawford.
    15
    Because we find “the physical evidence, and reasonable
    inferences drawn therefore, satisfy the corpus delicti rule,” we
    need not decide whether other-crimes evidence, including the
    rape and sodomy of Shelley C. and the rape of Newhouse, also
    establish the corpus delicti with regard to Crawford. (Jennings,
    supra, 53 Cal.3d at p. 367; cf. People v. Robbins (1988) 
    45 Cal. 3d 867
    , 886 (Robbins).)
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    C. Penalty Phase Issues
    1. Arguments involving testimony of defendant’s
    volitional impairment
    Defendant makes a series of arguments relating to Dr.
    Dietz’s testimony that sexual sadism does not impair an
    individual’s ability to control his or her behavior. The gist of
    defendant’s arguments is that the testimony is inconsistent with
    the Sexually Violent Predator Act (SVPA) (Welf. & Inst. Code,
    § 6600 et seq.) or is demonstrably false as shown by the
    existence of the act. Defendant also argues that the trial court
    erred by excluding references to the SVPA and by failing to “give
    proper instruction in light of the State’s expert testimony.” On
    these bases, defendant urges us to reverse the death sentence.
    a. Background
    Despite being an expert for the prosecution, Dr. Dietz
    agreed with Dr. Berlin, the defense expert, on many substantive
    points. In particular, Dietz agreed with Berlin’s diagnosis of
    defendant as a sexual sadist and an alcoholic. Dietz also
    “agree[d] entirely” with Berlin that “people do not choose their
    sexual deviations. They do not choose to become a sexual
    sadist.”
    Dr. Dietz, however, disagreed with Dr. Berlin regarding
    his diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder. In Dietz’s
    opinion, defendant did have antisocial personality disorder.
    Dietz explained the criteria for diagnosing the disorder, and
    cited examples from defendant’s history to show that he met the
    diagnostic criteria.
    In addition, although Dr. Dietz agreed with Dr. Berlin’s
    diagnosis of sexual sadism, he offered a different understanding
    of the disorder. According to Dietz, the sexual disorder
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    “amounts to saying what is it that turns the person on.” For a
    person who is a sexual sadist, the things that he or she finds
    sexually arousing include “bondage,” “captivity,” dominance,
    “humiliation,” “spanking and whipping,” and “choking and
    strangulation.” Dietz did not deny that it was “a problem to
    have in life to want to do that to another person.” He explained,
    however, that “[t]he way that people cope with that problem is
    quite variable.” Although there were sexual sadists who
    “commit violent crimes in order to fulfill their fantasies,” Dietz
    stressed that “just a tiny group of the sexual sadists . . . ever get
    to that point.”
    Crucially, Dr. Dietz disagreed with Dr. Berlin regarding
    whether sexual sadism compromised an individual’s ability to
    control his or her actions. As Dietz categorically stated,
    “[s]omeone whose only problem is sexual sadism has only one
    fundamental difference from normal people and that is a
    difference in what excites them sexually. It doesn’t affect how
    they think. It doesn’t affect their emotions. It doesn’t affect
    their capacity to control themselves. It only affects what it is
    that turns them on sexually.”
    The prosecution then asked Dr. Dietz about the
    “policeman at the elbow” test. Dietz responded that “[t]hat’s a
    test . . . long . . . used in the field of forensic psychiatry as a way
    of looking at whether someone has volitional control, do they
    have the free will to conform to the law.” Dietz, like Berlin,
    stated that “had there been a policeman at [defendant’s] elbow,
    he certainly would not have committed these crimes.” As such,
    Dietz concluded that defendant “was fully aware that this was
    wrong behavior and capable of stopping it with those kinds of
    external controls.”
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    The prosecution then asked Dr. Dietz to evaluate Dr.
    Berlin’s opinion. In particular, the prosecution asked, “Dr.
    Berlin talked about the sexual sadism and the fantasies almost
    becoming a compulsion. Is that — is that an opinion that’s
    widely held in your field?” Dietz answered, “No, it isn’t. But
    there is a group of people who are not in my field who come at it
    from a Christian counseling point of view who have become very
    fond of the idea of this being an addiction that begins with
    masturbation, exposure to pornography, obscene phone calls.
    And if one doesn’t find some spiritual relief or additional aid, it
    can degenerate into horrible kinds of behavior such as this. [¶]
    That’s not an accepted medical or psychological view. It’s the
    fad that’s been around the last ten or fifteen years. [¶] And
    that’s like the theory of this being a compulsion.” When cross-
    examined, Dietz nonetheless agreed that “the jury, as part of the
    process of making a decision in this case, should consider and
    listen to Dr. Berlin,” specifically his opinion that “sexual sadism
    . . . opens the door to irresistible impulse.” “[T]he jury’s got a
    difficult job here,” Dietz explained, and “we’re in an area where
    there are competing points of view.” Later in his testimony,
    Dietz reiterated that “it’s arguable — that this [sexual sadism]
    affects impulse control. It’s arguable that you could look at it
    the way Dr. Berlin does. I respect his opinion, but I disagree
    with him.”
    Despite his testimony that sexual sadism does not cause
    volitional impairment, Dr. Dietz acknowledged that a mental
    disorder contributed to defendant’s behavior. In his opinion,
    however, that mental disorder was antisocial personality
    disorder, not sexual sadism. As Dietz opined, “I think that the
    reason [defendant] behaves in this way toward victims is
    because he has an antisocial personality disorder. I think if he
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    were a sexual sadist who didn’t have the — this disorder, he
    wouldn’t be doing these bad acts.” In response to further
    questioning, Dietz confirmed, “If he were only sexually sadistic
    and did not have any other impairment, he wouldn’t have done
    that [assaulted Jennifer E. or raped Shelley C.].”
    Dr. Dietz, like Dr. Berlin, was ultimately asked to opine
    “whether at the time of the offense the capacity of the defendant
    . . . to conform his conduct to the requirements of the law was
    impaired as a result of a mental disease or defect.” Dietz gave a
    two-part answer. First, he said that defendant did not suffer
    from a mental disease or defect, as he defined those terms:
    “mental diseases . . . are those conditions that cause a person to
    have a profoundly entirely different view of reality than a
    normal human being” and mental defects referred to “mental
    retardation.” Second, Dietz said, “even if he did [suffer from a
    mental disease or defect], we have evidence that his volitional
    control was there.” Dietz then detailed the various decisions
    defendant made that demonstrated he made a choice to rape
    Newhouse and Crawford. These included “his decision to drink,”
    as “he’s never even attempted rape when he’s sober”; “his
    decision to lie to Dr. True,” telling “Dr. True he wasn’t having
    sexual temptations, that he wasn’t drinking”; the decision to
    “cruise,” or look for victims; the decision to “carry a rape kit,
    which eventually came to include a mask, precut lengths of rope,
    duct tape for gagging the victim . . .”; and finally, the decision,
    “after the fight at Outlaws Bar,” to “stop[] trying to control his
    fantasies and urges and . . . not make the effort anymore to
    resist the urges that he had.” This last decision, “rather than
    his not having the ability to control himself,” led to the deaths
    of Newhouse and Crawford.
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    b. Analysis
    i. Asserted inconsistent theories
    Defendant argues that the prosecution “committed
    prejudicial error by presenting evidence and theories regarding
    volitional impairment [that are] inconsistent with those
    presented by the People in civil commitment cases.” According
    to defendant, the People’s experts in civil commitment
    proceedings routinely testify that sexual disorders impair a
    person’s ability to control him- or herself. Yet, the prosecution
    in this case called an expert who said that sexual sadism has no
    such effect.      Defendant contends that this amounts to
    inconsistent prosecutorial theories and the use of such theories
    violated his right to due process under both the United States
    and California Constitutions.16
    Defendant is correct that “[a]t least where the punishment
    involved is death, due process is as offended by the People’s
    inconsistent and irreconcilable attribution of culpability-
    increasing acts as by the inconsistent and irreconcilable
    attribution of crimes.” (In re Sakarias (2005) 
    35 Cal. 4th 140
    ,
    160.) But he ignores the principle that where “the asserted
    inconsistencies in prosecutorial theory were not the subject of
    16
    In a cursory manner, defendant also argues that the same
    asserted inconsistencies violated the Eighth Amendment.
    Neither of the cases he cites supports the idea that “the Eighth
    Amendment . . . could be violated when the State takes
    inconsistent positions for tactical advantages in a capital
    sentencing proceeding.” (See Bradshaw v. Stumpf (2005) 
    545 U.S. 175
    , 187 [stating only that the court “express[ed] no opinion
    on whether the prosecutor’s actions [in arguing inconsistent
    theories about who shot the victim] amounted to a due process
    violation”]; Caldwell v. Mississippi (1985) 
    472 U.S. 320
     [no
    mention of inconsistent theories].)
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    any proceeding in the trial court and, hence, neither the
    inconsistencies nor any explanations the prosecutor may have
    been able to offer appear in the appellate record, any due process
    claim defendant can state should be ‘presented by petition for
    writ of habeas corpus rather than by appeal.’ ” (People v.
    Sakarias (2000) 
    22 Cal. 4th 596
    , 635 (Sakarias); see Spencer,
    supra, 
    5 Cal. 5th
     at p. 694 [citing cases supporting the
    proposition that “an inconsistent theories claim should be
    brought — not on appeal — but in a habeas corpus petition”].)
    Defendant’s claim thus must be rejected because “the
    asserted inconsistencies . . . were not the subject of any
    proceeding in the trial court.” (Sakarias, supra, 22 Cal.4th at
    p. 635.) Defendant concedes he did not argue before the trial
    court that Dr. Dietz’s testimony was inconsistent with the
    SVPA, and our review of the record confirms that to be the case.
    Although defendant alerted the court that he wanted to ask Dr.
    Berlin about the SVPA, the bases on which he sought to
    introduce the testimony were not to show any inconsistencies
    between the SVPA and Dietz’s opinion. Instead, defendant
    argued that the SVPA was relevant because the program
    showed that (1) a “mental disorder that lead to this lack of
    volitional control was treatable” and (2) defendant’s lack of
    treatment was due to institutional failure.
    To be sure, defense counsel mentioned in passing that the
    SVPA “is impeachment of what I believe is Dr. Dietz’s position
    that there is not volitional impairment.” However, counsel
    never developed this position. Instead, he pressed the argument
    concerning the treatability of sexual disorders and the issue of
    institutional failure. Unsurprisingly, the court ruled only with
    respect to these bases for admissibility.
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    In addition, when the court rejected defendant’s
    arguments and so excluded references to the SVPA, it made
    clear that its ruling was tentative. The court expressly stated
    that it would be willing to reconsider its position. Despite the
    court’s invitation, however, defendant never brought a motion
    or thereafter called the court’s attention to any purported
    inconsistencies between the SVPA and Dr. Dietz’s opinion.
    Probably for this reason, the record contains no explanation
    from the prosecutor about the asserted inconsistencies.17
    Under such circumstances, we find that “the asserted
    inconsistencies in prosecutorial theory were not the subject of
    any proceeding in the trial court.” (Sakarias, supra, 22 Cal.4th
    at p. 635.) We therefore reject defendant’s inconsistent theories
    claim, leaving it to be raised on habeas corpus.
    ii. Asserted false or misleading testimony
    Similar to his claim that Dr. Dietz’s testimony was
    inconsistent with the SVPA, defendant contends that Dietz’s
    testimony was false, as demonstrated by the existence of the
    SVPA. Defendant argues the prosecution violated his due
    process rights by relying on and failing to correct such false or
    misleading testimony. (See, e.g., People v. Morrison (2004) 34
    17
    Because defendant never raised the argument at trial, he
    never had to explain why the fact that other prosecutors, in
    unrelated civil cases, may call experts to opine that individuals
    suffering from certain mental disorders are predisposed to
    committing criminal sexual acts here amounts to the use of
    inconsistent prosecutorial theories. (See Welf. & Inst. Code,
    § 6600 et seq.) At a minimum, defendant’s theory of a due
    process violation is quite different from the situation we
    confronted in In re Sakarias, supra, 
    35 Cal. 4th 140
    , and nothing
    we say here should be taken as suggesting that we find them
    similar or endorsing an expansion of In re Sakarias.
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    Cal.4th 698, 716-717.) Unlike the inconsistent-theories claim,
    we can decide this false-evidence claim on appeal.
    First, we note that the claim is forfeited. Defendant
    complains that four different statements offered by Dr. Dietz
    were false or misleading. These include: (1) “a paraphilia does
    not impair volition”; (2) “Dr. Berlin’s view that it does is
    unaccepted”; (3) “the ‘police man at elbow’ test is the appropriate
    test for volitional impairment”; and (4) “sexual sadism [is] not
    . . . a ‘mental disease or defect.’ ” Yet, defendant did not object
    to any of this testimony at the time it was offered. Accordingly,
    the claim that the evidence should not have been introduced or
    that the prosecution violated due process by introducing such
    evidence is forfeited. (Evid. Code, § 353, subd. (a); People v.
    Hajek and Vo (2014), 
    58 Cal. 4th 1144
    , 1214 (Hajek and Vo);
    People v. Partida (2005) 
    37 Cal. 4th 428
    , 436 [“To the extent, if
    any, that defendant may be understood to argue that due
    process required exclusion of the evidence for a reason different
    from his trial objection, that claim is forfeited”].)
    Second, even if we were to overlook defendant’s forfeiture,
    we still would not be convinced that the SVPA shows Dr. Dietz’s
    testimony to be false. The SVPA is a civil commitment scheme
    that permits the state to involuntarily confine individuals
    proved to be “sexually violent predators.”18 (In re Howard N.
    (2005) 
    35 Cal. 4th 117
    , 127.) A “sexually violent predator” is “a
    person who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense
    against one or more victims and who has a diagnosed mental
    disorder that makes the person a danger to the health and safety
    of others in that it is likely that he or she will engage in sexually
    18
    Defendant was never found to be a sexually violent
    predator.
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    violent criminal behavior.” (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd.
    (a)(1).)) “Diagnosed mental disorder,” in turn, is defined as “a
    congenital or acquired condition affecting the emotional or
    volitional capacity that predisposes the person to the
    commission of criminal sexual acts in a degree constituting the
    person a menace to the health and safety of others.” (Welf. &
    Inst. Code, § 6600, subd. (c).) The SVPA does not specify that
    any particular condition meets this definition. It makes no
    mention of any sexual disorder, let alone the specific disorder of
    sexual sadism. The language of the SVPA thus furnishes no
    evidence to suggest that Dr. Dietz’s testimony regarding the
    volitional effect of sexual sadism was false.
    Perhaps for this reason, defendant cites a number of
    “published cases regarding SVP trials.” We question the value
    of such cases to show that Dr. Dietz’s testimony was false. First,
    we are aware of no authorities establishing that an expert’s
    testimony is false as a matter of law, just because it purportedly
    conflicts with other expert opinions given in other trials. Thus,
    the fact that various experts may have offered opinions contrary
    to Dietz’s does not mean these opinions have established that
    any particular disorder precludes a defendant from controlling
    his or her behavior. Instead, that remained an issue to be
    resolved by the jury upon hearing the opposing experts’
    testimony. (Accord, Ake v. Oklahoma (1985) 
    470 U.S. 68
    , 81
    [“Psychiatry is not . . . an exact science, and psychiatrists
    disagree widely and frequently on what constitutes mental
    illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given
    behavior and symptoms, on cure and treatment, and on
    likelihood of future dangerousness. Perhaps because there often
    is no single, accurate psychiatric conclusion . . ., juries remain
    the primary factfinders [and] . . . must resolve differences in
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    opinion within the psychiatric profession on the basis of the
    evidence offered by each party.”].)
    Second, the opinions in the cases cited do not conflict with
    Dr. Dietz’s testimony. Dietz opined that for a person “whose
    only problem is sexual sadism,” the disorder did not impair his
    or her volition. (Italics added.) In other words, sexual sadism,
    by itself, does not affect the individual’s capacity to control him
    or herself. Dietz did not testify that no sexual disorder affected
    an individual’s volition, or that individuals diagnosed with
    sexual sadism and other mental disorders still categorically
    have full control of themselves.
    Yet, defendant would have us read Dr. Dietz’s opinion this
    way. Defendant complains that the prosecution’s theory at trial,
    as established by Dietz’s testimony, is that “paraphilia does not
    impair volition.” Paraphilia, or more accurately “paraphilic
    disorders,” is the term psychiatrists use to refer to sexual
    disorders. The fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical
    Manual of Mental Disorders, the version in use at the time of
    defendant’s trial, discusses nine different paraphilic disorders.
    (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric
    Association (4th ed. 2000) pp. 569-576 [referencing
    exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, pedophilia, sexual
    masochism, sexual sadism, transvestic fetishism, voyeurism,
    and paraphilia not otherwise specified (paraphilia NOS)]; People
    v. Roberge (2003) 
    29 Cal. 4th 979
    , 983, fn. 1 (Roberge).) Sexual
    sadism is one of the nine paraphilic disorders; it is one specific
    paraphilia. Hence, the prosecution’s theory was never that
    “paraphilia,” meaning any and all paraphilic disorders, left a
    person in full control of him- or herself. Instead, it was that one
    particular paraphilic disorder — sexual sadism — did not
    compromise a person’s ability to control him- or herself.
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    Thus, to the extent that cases applying the SVPA can have
    a bearing on whether Dr. Dietz’s testimony about volitional
    control was false, they must address sexual sadism. Yet many
    of the cases defendant cited did not involve an individual
    diagnosed with sexual sadism.19 (E.g., Kansas v. Crane (2002)
    
    534 U.S. 407
    , 411 (Crane) [defendant diagnosed with
    exhibitionism and antisocial personality disorder]; Kan. v.
    Hendricks (1997) 
    521 U.S. 346
    , 354-356 (Hendricks) [defendant
    diagnosed with pedophilia]; People v. Shazier (2014) 
    60 Cal. 4th 109
    , 118-121 [defendant variously diagnosed with paraphilia
    NOS, personality disorder NOS, narcissistic traits, or simply
    personality disorder]; People v. Williams (2003) 
    31 Cal. 4th 757
    ,
    761-762 [diagnoses of paraphilia NOS and psychosis NOS];
    People v. Hurtado (2002) 
    28 Cal. 4th 1179
    , 1184 [pedophilia and
    antisocial personality disorder]; Albertson v. Superior Court
    (2001) 
    25 Cal. 4th 796
    , 799 [paraphilia NOS and antisocial
    personality disorder]; Hubbart v. Superior Court (1999) 
    19 Cal. 4th 1138
    , 1150 (Hubbart) [paraphilia NOS, with features of
    bondage, “ ‘rape, sodomy and klismaphilia’ ”].) These cases do
    not help us evaluate the truth or falsity of Dietz’s testimony that
    sexual sadism does not impair volition.
    Nor do cases that feature a combination of diagnoses, of
    which sexual sadism is only one, assist us. (E.g., People v. Allen
    (2008) 
    44 Cal. 4th 843
    , 852-854 [“defendant’s mental disorders
    include paraphilia (specifically, an urge for sex with
    nonconsenting adults), antisocial personality disorder,
    psychosis, and cocaine dependency”]; Roberge, supra, 29 Cal.4th
    at p. 983 [after changing her mind, one of the People’s experts
    19
    A majority of the cases cited also postdate defendant’s
    trial.
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    diagnosed the defendant with sexual sadism while the other
    expert diagnosed him with paraphilia NOS and antisocial
    personality disorder]; People v. Leonard (2000) 
    78 Cal. App. 4th 776
    , 781 [defendant was diagnosed with “two mental disorders:
    (1) paraphilia, rape, or sexual sadism; and (2) antisocial
    personality disorder”].) Dr. Dietz testified that individuals
    “whose only problem is sexual sadism” do not suffer from
    volitional impairment.      He offered no categorial opinion
    regarding persons suffering from sexual sadism and other
    mental impediments. Accordingly, SVPA cases containing
    testimony that a defendant was volitionally impaired and that
    he or she was diagnosed with multiple mental disorders do not
    contradict Dietz’s opinion.20
    We likewise find no evidence to suggest that Dr. Dietz
    testified falsely when he stated that Dr. Berlin’s view was not
    “widely held” within his field. We simply do not know what were
    the views of psychiatrists on sexual sadism and the ability to
    control oneself. Dietz himself testified that “ ‘we’re in an area
    where there are competing points of view’ ” and said that
    although he disagreed with it, the jury should consider Berlin’s
    opinion. Insofar as defendant suggests Dietz’s views must have
    been false, his suggestion relies on the premise that we can treat
    all paraphilic disorders as interchangeable. Nothing in the
    record or the cases cited allows us to do so.
    20
    To the extent Dr. Dietz testified that defendant, who he
    diagnosed as suffering from both sexual sadism and antisocial
    personality disorder, was not volitionally impaired, his
    testimony rested on the specific circumstances of defendant’s
    case. The fact that somebody else suffering from the same
    conditions may be impaired does not demonstrate that Dietz’s
    testimony was false.
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    Similarly, we cannot conclude that Dr. Dietz provided
    false or misleading testimony in stating that the “policeman at
    the elbow” test was a test “used in the field of forensic psychiatry
    as a way of looking at whether someone has volitional control.”
    True: We have interpreted the SVPA’s requirement of a
    “condition affecting the emotional or volitional capacity” (Welf.
    & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd. (c)) to mean a condition that “causes
    serious difficulty in controlling violent sexual impulses,” and not
    one as to which “such control is impossible.” (People v. Superior
    Court (Ghilotti) (2002) 
    27 Cal. 4th 888
    , 921, fn. 12; see People v.
    Williams, supra, 31 Cal.4th at p. 776; Crane, supra, 534 U.S. at
    pp. 411-412.) Yet, Dietz was never asked to apply this particular
    standard of volitional impairment. He also did not say that the
    “policeman at the elbow” test showed that defendant had little
    difficulty in controlling his behavior. Instead, Dietz testified
    that the test indicated defendant “was fully aware that this was
    wrong behavior and capable of stopping it with those kinds of
    external controls.” This was entirely consistent with Dr.
    Berlin’s testimony.
    Finally, we reject defendant’s argument that Dr. Dietz
    “falsely and misleadingly suggested that only severely psychotic
    or severely retarded persons could have the requisite ‘mental
    disease or defect’ to establish volitional impairment under the
    statutory mitigating factor (h)” of section 190.3. Dietz never
    mentioned section 190.3, factor (h), or urged the jury to accept
    the idea that “only severely psychotic or severely retarded
    persons could have the requisite ‘mental disease or defect’ to
    establish volitional impairment.” Indeed, given the extensive
    testimony of Berlin and Dietz, no rational jury could have drawn
    this conclusion. Berlin and Dietz argued at length about
    whether sexual sadists suffered from volitional impairment, but
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    the argument never pivoted on whether sexual sadism was or
    was not a severe psychosis or a form of intellectual disability.
    Dietz did not opine that defendant could control himself because
    he suffered from neither severe psychosis nor serious
    intellectual disability. Rather, he testified that defendant did
    not suffer from a mental disease or defect but even if he did, his
    behavior showed that his volitional capability was intact. The
    testimony did not mislead the jury in the way defendant
    suggests.
    In sum, we find that Dr. Dietz did not testify falsely and,
    as such, the prosecution did not violate due process by failing to
    “correct” his testimony.
    iii. Exclusion of testimony concerning the
    SVPA
    Defendant next contends the trial court’s exclusion of
    testimony regarding the SVPA violated his Sixth Amendment
    right to fully and fairly cross-examine Dr. Dietz and his Eighth
    Amendment right to produce mitigating evidence.
    We begin with the Eighth Amendment claim. The
    “ ‘Eighth Amendment requires that the jury be able to consider
    and give effect to’ a capital defendant’s mitigating evidence.”
    (Tennard v. Dretke (2004) 
    542 U.S. 274
    , 285.) “Thus, a State
    cannot bar ‘the consideration of . . . evidence if the sentencer
    could reasonably find that it warrants a sentence less than
    death.’ ” (Ibid.) Despite this constitutional proscription, “the
    trial court still ‘ “determines relevancy in the first instance and
    retains discretion to exclude evidence whose probative value is
    substantially outweighed by the probability that its admission
    will create substantial danger of confusing the issues or
    misleading the jury.” ’ ” (People v. Williams (2006) 
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    287, 320; see also Romano v. Oklahoma (1994) 
    512 U.S. 1
    , 12;
    People v. McDowell (2012) 
    54 Cal. 4th 395
    , 431; People v. Loker
    (2008) 
    44 Cal. 4th 691
    , 731.) A trial court’s decision to exclude
    asserted mitigating evidence is reviewed for an abuse of
    discretion. (E.g., People v. McDowell, supra, 54 Cal.4th at
    pp. 433-434; People v. Salcido (2008) 
    44 Cal. 4th 93
    , 162; People
    v. Williams, supra, 40 Cal.4th at p. 320.)
    Here, the trial court excluded references to the SVPA
    when it rejected both of defendant’s bases for admissibility. The
    court found that the SVPA was irrelevant to the issue of
    institutional failure because defendant was, correctly, found
    ineligible for confinement as a sexually violent predator (SVP).
    Because defendant was not an SVP, he could not rely on the
    SVPA to argue that the penal system should have afforded him
    treatment available to those confined under the terms of the
    statute. The court distinguished defendant’s case from People
    v. Mickle (1991) 
    54 Cal. 3d 140
    , 193 (Mickle), in which we held
    that evidence that a defendant “had sought and/or been denied
    treatment which might have controlled the same dangerous
    personality disorder that purportedly contributed to the instant
    crimes” was “relevant and admissible.”
    We agree that Mickle does not control the case before us.
    In Mickle, the excluded evidence concerned “the state’s
    ‘improper’ diagnosis and treatment” of the defendant. (Mickle,
    supra, 54 Cal.3d at p. 193.) In this case, the SVPA has no
    bearing on whether the state improperly diagnosed and treated
    defendant, given that defendant was not entitled to any care
    under the statute.
    Moreover, even if the trial court erred by excluding
    testimony about the SVPA for the purpose of establishing
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    institutional failure, the error was harmless under any
    applicable standard. (People v. Williams, supra, 40 Cal.4th at
    p. 320.) Multiple witnesses testified regarding the failure to
    provide appropriate care. Two correctional officers from Soledad
    prison told the jury that there was no counseling for “sexual
    predators” available at the prison and, even if there were,
    inmates probably would not attend out of a concern for their
    safety. Officer Zaragoza likewise said that San Luis Obispo
    County afforded paroled sex offenders no “confidential
    psychotherapy.” The only treatment parolees like defendant got
    was from the outpatient clinic, and Dr. True, the doctor in
    charge of that clinic, testified that he had very limited resources.
    True further testified had resources been available, he would
    have placed defendant in a number of additional treatment
    programs. A different expert, Dr. Haney, opined that defendant
    “received no psychotherapy, really no psychotherapy throughout
    his entire life” despite clear signs that he needed treatment.
    Defense counsel also emphasized institutional failure as a
    mitigating factor in closing argument.                Under such
    circumstances, “[n]o prejudice occurred.” (Mickle, supra, 54
    Cal.3d at p. 194.)
    The trial court also disallowed testimony about the SVPA
    for the purpose of bolstering Dr. Berlin’s testimony that sexual
    sadism was a treatable condition. In so doing, the court
    exercised its broad discretion under Evidence Code section 352,
    finding the SVPA’s probative value to be “very limited” and
    “substantially outweighed by . . . consumption of time.” The
    court explained that the probative value of the statute was low
    because the SVPA “wasn’t passed to treat [offenders].” Although
    treatment is mandated under the SVPA (Welf. & Inst. Code,
    § 6606, subd. (a)), an individual may be involuntarily committed
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    even when treatment is neither expected to be “successful” nor
    “potentially successful.”     (Id. subd. (b) [“Amenability to
    treatment is not required for a finding that any person is a
    person described in Section 6600, nor is it required for treatment
    of that person. Treatment does not mean that the treatment be
    successful or potentially successful . . . .”]; Hubbart, supra, 19
    Cal.4th at p. 1167; accord, Hendricks, supra, 521 U.S. at p. 366;
    People v. McKee (2010) 
    47 Cal. 4th 1172
    , 1195.) Accordingly,
    when treatment is understood to mean effective treatment or
    treatment that is at least “potentially successful,” the probative
    value of the statute to show treatability is indeed limited. (Welf.
    & Inst. Code, § 6606, subd. (b).) Moreover, the court correctly
    noted that testimony about the SVPA would have resulted in
    “consumption of time, which would be required to basically
    educate the jury as to how the SVP[A] came about, what the
    requirements are, what the purpose of the statute is,” etc. We
    therefore cannot say that the trial court abused its discretion in
    excluding the evidence.
    In addition to treatability and institutional failure,
    defendant claims that he “clearly” advanced another theory of
    admissibility at trial: “to support Dr. Berlin’s testimony and
    prove that a paraphilia, and more specifically sexual sadism,
    was generally accepted by state experts, jurists and prosecuting
    attorneys nationwide to be the type of disorder that is capable
    of impairing volitional control.” Defendant overstates how
    “clearly” he argued this basis for admitting evidence of the
    SVPA. But even assuming that he preserved the claim and the
    trial court erred in excluding the evidence, any error was
    harmless. Dr. Dietz himself stated that “we’re in an area where
    there are competing points of view.” He told the jury “it’s
    arguable — that this [sexual sadism] affects impulse control.
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    It’s arguable that you could look at it the way Dr. Berlin does.”
    Dietz informed the jury that he respected Berlin’s opinion and
    said it should consider Berlin’s testimony that “sexual sadism
    . . . opens the door to irresistible impulse.” Given Dietz’s on-
    point testimony about the credibility of his opponent’s view
    regarding volitional impairment and sexual sadism, exclusion of
    testimony about the SVPA — a statute that does not even
    mention sexual sadism — did not result in prejudice.
    We next examine defendant’s Sixth Amendment
    argument that the exclusion of testimony concerning the SVPA
    violated his right to fully and fairly cross-examine Dr. Dietz. To
    prevail on his claim (assuming he has preserved it for review),
    defendant must show that had Dietz been confronted with the
    evidence, “the ‘cross-examination would have produced “a
    significantly different impression of [the witness’s]
    credibility.” ’ ”  (People v. Dement (2011) 
    53 Cal. 4th 1
    ,
    52 (Dement); People v. Linton (2013) 
    56 Cal. 4th 1146
    , 1188
    (Linton); People v. Quartermain (1997) 
    16 Cal. 4th 600
    , 623-624.)
    We do not think that introduction of testimony about the
    SVPA would have significantly affected the jury’s impression of
    Dr. Dietz’s credibility. The witness was thoroughly cross-
    examined, including by being confronted with his own affidavit
    from a prior case. In the affidavit, Dietz attested that sexual
    sadism (1) “open[ed] the door to irresistible impulse testimony
    from some experts”; (2) was “arguably the basis for a finding of
    extreme emotional distress where the offender feels impelled by
    strong sexual urges to commit the offense”; and (3) was a
    disorder “ ‘for which specific treatments are available . . . that
    can reduce or eliminate dangerousness.’ ” When so confronted,
    Dietz not only acknowledged that he held those opinions, but
    also said that he had changed his mind only on “one point,” no
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    longer taking “the position that treatment can eliminate
    dangerousness.” Accordingly, Dietz was impeached by his own
    testimony on precisely those points on which defendant claims
    the SVPA was relevant. Further impeachment with testimony
    concerning the SVPA would not have “produced ‘ “a significantly
    different impression of [his] credibility.” ’ ” (Dement, supra, 53
    Cal.4th at p. 52; accord, People v. Smith (2015) 
    61 Cal. 4th 18
    ,
    59-60 [explaining that there was no error when the court
    excluded certain expert testimony after it “issue[d] a narrow
    ruling” that still permitted testimony “in some areas”].)
    Defendant also complains that the restriction on his
    ability to confront Dr. Dietz damaged his own expert’s
    credibility. For the same reason given in our discussion of
    defendant’s Eighth Amendment claim, we do not find that had
    testimony regarding the SVPA been admitted, the jury would
    have received a “ ‘ “significantly different impression” ’ ” of Dr.
    Berlin’s credibility. (Dement, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 52.)
    In sum, we find no error in the exclusion of testimony
    about the SVPA. When we have assumed error, the error was
    harmless.
    iv. Imposition of the death penalty upon
    persons with a mental disorder that reduces
    their volitional control
    Defendant contends imposition of the death penalty on
    persons with a mental disorder that reduces their volitional
    control to such a degree that they can be subject to civil
    detention is excessive under the Eighth Amendment.
    Defendant’s argument relies on Atkins v. Virginia (2002) 
    536 U.S. 304
    , 321 in which the high court held that “death is not a
    suitable punishment for a mentally retarded criminal.”
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    Defendant urges us to extend the rationale of Atkins to mentally
    disordered criminals, making such offenders categorically
    ineligible for the death penalty. We have considered such
    invitations before and have consistently declined them. (E.g.,
    People v. Powell (2018) 5 Cal.5th 921, 962-963 (Powell); People
    v. Ghobrial (2018) 5 Cal.5th 250, 275-276; People v. Mendoza
    (2016) 
    62 Cal. 4th 856
    , 908-911 (Mendoza); People v. Boyce
    (2014) 
    59 Cal. 4th 672
    , 719-722; Hajek and Vo, supra, 58 Cal.4th
    at pp. 1250-1252.) Defendant advances no persuasive reason for
    us to reconsider our position, notwithstanding his assertion of
    “a recent trend by state legislatures to view sexually violent
    offenders’ crimes as the product of a non-psychotic mental
    disorder which nevertheless impairs their volitional control.”
    The same trend was in effect when we decided the line of cases
    above, including cases from just a year ago.
    Consistent with our precedent, we reject defendant’s
    claim. “We leave it to the Legislature, if it chooses, to determine
    exactly the type and level of mental impairment that must be
    shown to warrant a categorical exemption from the death
    penalty.” (Hajek and Vo, supra, 58 Cal.4th at p. 1252.)
    v. Jury instruction regarding lack of volitional
    control
    Defendant contends the trial court erred in failing to give
    an instruction defining the term “mental disease or defect.”
    Following the language of section 190.3, factor (h), the court
    instructed the jury that it should consider “whether or not at the
    time of the offense the capacity of the defendant to appreciate
    the criminality of his conduct or to conform his conduct to the
    requirements of law was impaired as a result of mental disease
    or defect or the effects of intoxication.” Defendant argues the
    court had a duty to supplement this instruction on its own
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    motion and instruct the jury as to the meaning of the term
    “mental disease or defect.” Without such an instruction, “the
    jury . . . may have accepted Dietz’s testimony and wrongly
    ascribed a restrictive meaning to the statutory phrase ‘mental
    disease or defect’ and therefore concluded that [defendant’s]
    paraphilic disorder did not qualify under factor (h).”
    We are not convinced that the trial court was obliged to
    define “mental disease or defect” in the absence of a party’s
    request. A court’s duty to define statutory terms “arises where
    the terms have a technical meaning that is peculiar to the law.”
    (People v. Howard (1988) 
    44 Cal. 3d 375
    , 408.) In contrast,
    “[w]hen a word or phrase ‘ “is commonly understood by those
    familiar with the English language and is not used in a technical
    sense peculiar to the law, the court is not required to give an
    instruction as to its meaning in the absence of a request.” ’ ”
    (People v. Estrada (1995) 
    11 Cal. 4th 568
    , 574 (Estrada).) We
    have never held that as used in section 190.3, factor (h), the
    phrase “mental disease or defect” carries a technical, legal
    meaning requiring clarification on the court’s own motion. To
    the contrary, “ ‘[t]he language of a statute . . . is generally an
    appropriate and desirable basis for an instruction, and is
    ordinarily sufficient when the defendant fails to request
    amplification.’ ”   (Estrada, supra, 11 Cal.4th at p. 574.)
    Defendant attempts to persuade us otherwise by citing cases
    that deal with the term “mental disease or defect” in the context
    of legal insanity. (In re Ramon M. (1978) 
    22 Cal. 3d 419
    , 424-
    428; People v. Weaver (2001) 
    26 Cal. 4th 876
    , 968-969.) Those
    cases are clearly inapposite because legal insanity is a technical,
    legal concept.
    Moreover, defendant’s argument is not really that the
    term “mental disease or defect” has some meaning other than
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    that “ ‘ “commonly understood by those familiar with the
    English language.” ’ ” (Estrada, supra, 11 Cal.4th at p. 574.)
    Instead, it is that because a witness in this case has supplied a
    definition for the term, the jury may be misled into adopting that
    definition rather than using “the meaning that might be
    ascribed to the same terms in common parlance.” (Id. at p. 575.)
    Hence, defendant’s argument is really that the court should
    have given an instruction to dissipate any potential confusion
    caused by this particular witness’s testimony. At most, this
    amounts to an argument for a pinpoint instruction to “relate
    particular facts to a legal issue in the case.” (People v. Saille
    (1991) 
    54 Cal. 3d 1103
    , 1119.) Such instructions “are not
    required to be given sua sponte.” (Ibid.)
    In any event, even assuming the court should have
    instructed the jury on its own motion, the failure to do so was
    harmless. As discussed earlier, no reasonable juror could have
    drawn from the testimony of Drs. Berlin and Dietz the
    conclusion that “only severely psychotic or severely retarded
    persons could have the requisite ‘mental disease or defect’ to
    establish volitional impairment.” The prosecution’s closing
    argument bolsters the point. In discussing section 190.3, factor
    (h), the prosecutor made no mention of whether defendant was
    or was not psychotic or intellectually disabled. Instead, he
    argued that defendant did not suffer “sexual compulsion.” The
    prosecutor referred to Dr. Dietz’s testimony, stating “Dr. Dietz
    . . . said that [defendant] makes his choices.” “But,” said the
    prosecutor, “you know you don’t need an MD to know that. . . .
    You should know that as well.” The prosecution thus exhorted
    the jury to rely on its own experience, not any definition supplied
    by Dietz (which was not even mentioned). Read as a whole, the
    testimony and arguments are entirely inconsistent with the
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    possibility that the jury may have been “misled about the nature
    of the statutory mitigating factor.”
    Finally, even if the jury was somehow misled about section
    190.3, factor (h), it could still consider defendant’s sexual
    sadism, antisocial personality disorder, and any other diagnosis
    of a mental condition under the section 190.3, factor (k), the
    “catchall” factor. (Accord, People v. Smith (2005) 
    35 Cal. 4th 334
    ,
    353 [“even though [section 190.3] factor (d) refers to ‘extreme’
    emotional or mental disturbance, evidence of mental disorder of
    less extreme character is admissible under factor (k)”].) No
    reversible error occurred.
    2. Restriction on testimony that witnesses believed
    defendant should not be executed
    Defendant contends the trial court erred in limiting
    testimony from some witnesses who would have testified that
    they believed defendant should not be executed. The court
    allowed defendant’s mother, sister, former girlfriend (Adonia
    Krug), the mother to his son (Rosalynn Moore), and a spiritual
    advisor to respond to the question whether each thought
    defendant should receive life in prison instead of death. Each
    gave the unsurprising answer that she thought defendant
    should live. However, when defendant asked the same question
    of Mosher, a staff member at the Children’s Home where
    defendant was sent when he was 15, the prosecution objected
    and the court sustained the objection. The court based its ruling
    on the fact Mosher last saw defendant in 1983 and no longer had
    a significant relationship with him. The defense then made an
    offer of proof that Mosher, other staff members at the Children’s
    Home, and Scheyt — the mother of the girl defendant dated in
    1981 — would have testified that they thought defendant should
    not receive the death penalty. The court affirmed its ruling as
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    to all of these witnesses. Accordingly, although Mosher, other
    members of the Children’s Home, and Scheyt testified to
    defendant’s various positive characteristics and their high
    opinions of him, they did not say whether they believed
    defendant’s life should be spared.
    “[E]vidence that a family member or friend wants the
    defendant to live is admissible to the extent it relates to the
    defendant’s character . . . .” (People v. Smith, supra, 35 Cal.4th
    at p. 367.) To be admissible, the witness must “have a
    significant relationship with the defendant.” (Ibid.) We have
    not, however, considered whether a person whose significant
    relationship with the defendant ended more than a decade
    before the event for which the defendant is on trial must be
    allowed to give an opinion regarding whether he or she wants
    the defendant to live. (Cf. People v. Smith, supra, 35 Cal.4th at
    pp. 366-367 [finding that an educational therapist who had a
    significant relationship with the defendant until three years
    before his crime should have been allowed to testify that she did
    not want him executed]; Mickle, supra, 54 Cal.3d at p. 194
    [finding that the opinion of a close family friend that the
    defendant’s life should be spared was relevant and admissible];
    People v. Heishman (1988) 
    45 Cal. 3d 147
    , 180, 194 (Heishman)
    [holding that a former wife who had a daughter with the
    defendant six years before the crimes in question should have
    been allowed to say whether she thought the death penalty was
    appropriate for him].) We need not reach the issue here because,
    even assuming that the trial court should have permitted people
    who knew defendant as a teenager to opine that his character
    was such that he should live, the exclusion of the testimony was
    harmless.
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    Multiple people pleaded with the jury to spare defendant’s
    life. His mother, sister, a childhood girlfriend (who kept in
    contact with defendant), the mother of his child, and a spiritual
    advisor all said that they wanted him to live. Moreover, the
    witnesses who were not allowed to give their opinion regarding
    the penalty nonetheless offered “direct evidence of defendant’s
    character” and their testimony was “generally so supportive of
    defendant that it is very unlikely that any juror would infer that
    [they] would want to see him put to death.” (People v. Smith,
    supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 368; Heishman, supra, 45 Cal.3d at
    p. 194.) Under such circumstances, “it is not reasonably possible
    that the jury would have returned a different penalty verdict”
    had it heard these witnesses say that defendant should not be
    executed. (People v. Ervin (2000) 
    22 Cal. 4th 48
    , 103; see People
    v. Smith, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 368; Heishman, supra, 45
    Cal.3d at p. 194.)
    3. Testimony of a former girlfriend concerning her
    relationship with defendant
    Defendant contends the trial court abused its discretion by
    admitting testimony concerning why his relationship with
    former girlfriend Liesel Turner ended. Over a defense objection,
    the court allowed Turner to testify as follows. Although the
    relationship was initially “very nice, very romantic,” Turner
    eventually became frightened of defendant. Defendant told
    Turner that his former girlfriend “had been raped and murdered
    and that he had committed a crime so that he could get put in
    jail so that he could go kill the person that had raped and
    murdered her.” When Turner stated defendant told her he had
    killed the person, the court interrupted. The court instructed
    the jury that Turner’s statements that defendant murdered
    someone “are admissible just to show why someone reacted to
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    those statements. It’s not admitted to show that what’s in the
    statement is true. . . . There’s not going to be any evidence that
    what [defendant] said is, in fact, true, in fact, occurred. The
    reason the statement is admissible is just to show why Ms.
    Turner reacted to it.” Turner continued testifying, stating that
    she eventually ended her relationship with defendant because
    she “didn’t feel safe.”
    Before the trial court, defendant argued that Turner’s
    entire testimony was improper because it exceeded the scope of
    permissible rebuttal. The trial court rejected the argument,
    finding that the testimony served two purposes: (1) to rebut
    “character” testimony that defendant “does have the good
    quality that he can have a good relationship with women,” as
    defendant’s prior girlfriends (Krug and Moore) testified; and (2)
    to rebut testimony from witnesses who said defendant’s
    relationship with Turner was “good.”
    The court’s reasoning is sound and supported by the
    record. Defendant had elicited statements from four women —
    Krug, Moore, Krug’s mother, and a friend (Jaime Prisco) — to
    establish that he had good intimate relationships with women.
    In addition, he drew from two witnesses the testimony that
    defendant and Turner had a “good” relationship. Hence, to the
    extent that Turner’s testimony showed that she became afraid
    of defendant and broke up with him because she “didn’t feel
    safe,” the testimony tended to rebut the impression that
    defendant’s relationship with women in general — and Turner
    in particular — was as good as defendant’s witnesses had
    suggested. “ ‘ “The admission of rebuttal evidence rests largely
    within the sound discretion of the trial court and will not be
    disturbed on appeal in the absence of ‘palpable abuse.’ ” ’ ”
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    (People v. Smith, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 359.) We find no such
    abuse here.
    Defendant further argues that even if Turner’s testimony
    was relevant, it should have been excluded under Evidence Code
    section 352. We agree Turner’s statement that defendant told
    her he killed a person to avenge a girlfriend’s death had the
    potential to create undue prejudice. However, the court
    properly instructed the jury that the statement was not
    admitted for its truth (to show that defendant did kill someone
    for revenge) but only to explain Turner’s state of mind (to
    explain why she became afraid of defendant). “Absent some
    showing to the contrary, we presume the jury followed the
    court’s instructions.” (People v. Merriman (2014) 
    60 Cal. 4th 1
    ,
    48-49 (Merriman).) Defendant has not made such a showing,
    despite arguing it was impossible for the jury to believe that
    Turner was afraid of defendant without also believing that
    defendant “did in fact plot and engage in murder.” A boast that
    one has killed a person is disturbing in and of itself, even if it
    was an empty boast intended to “impress” a girlfriend. The trial
    court did not abuse its discretion by determining that, being
    admitted for a limited purpose, the probative value of Turner’s
    statement was not substantially outweighed by the danger of
    undue prejudice.
    4. Admission of photograph of defendant
    Defendant contends the trial court abused its discretion by
    admitting in the penalty phase a photograph of him, shirtless
    and flexing. The prosecution authenticated the photograph as
    having been taken in February 1999, after defendant killed
    Newhouse but before he killed Crawford. The court allowed the
    prosecution to admit the photograph as an exhibit and to display
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    it to the jury during closing argument. Because defendant had
    presented testimony and otherwise argued that he showed
    remorse after his arrest, the court admitted the photograph as
    evidence tending to suggest that the remorse was not genuine.
    As the court stated, “here one of the main mitigating factors
    that’s being argued is remorse. . . . I think it would be a
    reasonable inference for the jury to look at this photograph and
    decide that his remorse didn’t begin until he was arrested” and
    so was “self-serving.”      The court acknowledged that the
    photograph was “ambiguous,” or capable of giving rise to more
    than one inference, but found that its admission would not be
    “overly prejudicial,” because the adverse inference was not “an
    unfair [one] to draw.”
    On appeal, defendant raises the same arguments that
    were rejected at trial. He first asserts the photograph had no
    relevance pertaining to remorse (or the lack thereof) because
    “[r]emorse is a complex, changing state of mind, and is not
    something that can be proved to be absent or present merely by
    a picture.” Defendant’s argument misses the mark. Under
    Evidence Code section 210, relevant evidence is evidence
    “having any tendency in reason to prove or disprove any
    disputed fact that is of consequence to the determination of the
    action.” (Italics added.) Accordingly, to be relevant and
    admissible, the photograph did not need to “prove[]” “a complex,
    changing state of mind”; it needed only to have a “tendency” to
    do so. (Ibid.) In this case, the photograph tended to corroborate
    evidence introduced at the guilt phase that defendant appeared
    “in a good mood,” “joking around,” and “happy” in March 1999,
    shortly after he killed Crawford and before he was arrested. As
    such, it gave rise to a “reasonable inference . . . that
    [defendant’s] remorse didn’t begin until he was arrested.” This,
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    in turn, suggested that defendant’s “displays of remorse and acts
    of contrition” were not genuine and therefore should be afforded
    little value in mitigation. (See, e.g., Hajek and Vo, supra, 58
    Cal.4th at p. 1239.) The trial court did not abuse its
    “considerable discretion” in finding the photograph relevant.
    (Merriman, supra, 60 Cal.4th at p. 74.)
    Second, defendant argues that the photograph should
    have been excluded under Evidence Code section 352.
    Specifically, he asserts that (1) “the court erred by failing to
    weigh prejudice against probative value” because it mistakenly
    treated the photograph as “ ‘circumstance of the crime’ ”
    evidence under Penal Code section 190.3, factor (a); and (2)
    properly weighted, the photograph should have been excluded
    because it was unduly prejudicial.
    We do not think the trial court failed to weigh the value of
    the evidence against the risk of undue prejudice. “[A] court need
    not expressly weigh prejudice against probative value or even
    expressly state that it has done so, if the record as a whole shows
    the court was aware of and performed its balancing functions
    under Evidence Code section 352.” (People v. Taylor (2001) 
    26 Cal. 4th 1155
    , 1169 (Taylor); see People v. Riel (2000) 
    22 Cal. 4th 1153
    , 1187-1188.)
    In this case, “the record as a whole” does so show. (Taylor,
    supra, 26 Cal.4th at p. 1169.) Before admitting the photograph,
    the trial court heard argument from both sides outside of the
    presence of the jury. The court subsequently stated, “on the 352
    issue, . . . I think 352 is different in the penalty phase than it is
    in the guilt phase. And I think the penalty phase, you go to the
    cases which deal with the victim impact evidence. And
    obviously . . . some evidence presented in the penalty phase [is]
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    emotional or . . . prejudicial and, in some cases overly so.”
    “Ultimately,” concluded the court, “the court’s direction has been
    that you need to discern whether [the evidence at issue] would
    divert the jury’s attention from [its] duty in the penalty trial and
    whether it would do so in a way that is unfair. [¶] . . . The real
    test for rebuttal evidence simply is[,] is it proper rebuttal. And
    . . . my judgment is the only way to — for 352 to exclude it at
    that point would be if it would unfairly — be unfair in the sense
    that it would divert the jury’s attention from [its] ultimate duty.”
    The court thereafter admitted the photograph.
    Given this record, we cannot say that the court failed to
    perform its duty under section 352 of the Evidence Code. The
    trial court “held an extensive hearing outside the jury’s presence
    to determine whether to admit the photograph[]” (Taylor, supra,
    26 Cal.4th at p. 1169) and its statements during that hearing
    showed that it understood that it could exclude the photograph
    on section 352 grounds if the photograph “would divert the jury’s
    attention from [its] ultimate duty.” Although the court also
    mentioned “cases which deal with the victim impact evidence,”
    it is clear that the court did not confuse the photograph with
    victim impact evidence or apply some standard of prejudice that
    was unique to such evidence. Considered as a whole, the record
    does not support defendant’s claim that the trial court
    mistakenly treated the photograph as Penal Code section 190.3,
    factor (a)’s “circumstances of the crime” evidence.
    Regarding the issue of prejudice, defendant contends the
    photograph was the prosecution’s “most potent weapon,” as
    shown by the fact that the prosecutor displayed an enlarged
    image of the photograph for about 18 minutes during its hour-
    long closing argument. He also makes much of the trial court’s
    remark that the prosecution “use[d] the photo effectively in
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    argument.” Using a photograph to cast doubt on defendant’s
    supposed remorse may have been effective, but there is nothing
    improper about effective argument, or argument that
    capitalized on the probative value of a piece of evidence. Put
    differently, frequent use of a piece of evidence to undermine a
    defendant’s attempt at mitigation does not equate to undue
    prejudice. (See, e.g., People v. Daveggio and Michaud (2018) 4
    Cal.5th 790, 824 [“ ‘ “ ‘ “Evidence is not prejudicial, as that term
    is used in a section 352 context, merely because it undermines
    the opponent’s position or shores up that of the
    proponent” ’ ” ’ ”].) Having examined the photograph ourselves
    and reviewed the record for the way in which it was used, we
    find the court did not abuse its discretion in admitting the
    image. (See, e.g., Michaels, supra, 28 Cal.4th at p. 532.)
    5. Admission of evidence that defendant lied about
    shooting a person
    To support his diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder,
    Dr. Dietz recounted various instances in defendant’s history in
    which he had displayed the diagnostic criterion of
    “deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying.” Defendant now
    complains about one such instance of deceitful conduct as
    relayed by Dietz.
    The incident involved a shooting of a man in Santa
    Barbara in 1987. During his April 27, 1999 interview, Hobson
    asked defendant, “Just before you went to prison in ‘87,
    somebody called Crime Stoppers, San Luis Obispo here, and
    identified you as shooting somebody in the chest in Santa
    Barbara three times over a drug deal. Wasn’t you?” Defendant
    answered, “Shoot somebody in the chest three times, no. Wasn’t
    me.” After the tape recorder was turned off, however, defendant
    admitted that he had shot a man in the leg that year. Hobson
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    documented the admission in a report, which was provided to
    Dr. Dietz. The doctor, in turn, told the jury that defendant “was
    asked about whether he had shot a man in Santa Barbara,” and
    after having “said no, he hadn’t done it,” “he subsequently
    admitted to Investigator Hobson that he had been the guy that
    shot a man in the leg in Santa Barbara in 1987.” On cross-
    examination, defense counsel suggested that Dietz did not know
    whether defendant really shot a person in 1987. Dietz agreed
    but countered that “[w]hether he lied when he said he didn’t
    [shoot a person] or lied when he said he did, one of them’s a lie.”
    On appeal, defendant accuses Dr. Dietz of having
    improperly “vouched” to the jury that defendant in fact shot a
    man three times in the chest. We disagree. In his testimony,
    Dietz said that after having first denied the incident, defendant
    “subsequently admitted” that he “shot a man in the leg in Santa
    Barbara in 1987.” Dietz never said that defendant shot
    somebody in the chest three times. More to the point, the
    incident was relevant to the doctor’s opinion insofar as the
    inconsistency between the denial and the admission showed
    that defendant was being deceitful in his interview with Hobson.
    The actual details of how defendant shot the person — and
    indeed whether defendant shot a person in Santa Barbara in
    1987 at all — were immaterial.
    In short, Dr. Dietz’s testimony could not reasonably be
    understood as vouching that defendant shot a person three
    times in the chest, and the prosecution did not commit
    misconduct in presenting his testimony.
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    6. Suggestion that defendant was convicted of sexual
    assault relating to the Jennifer E. incident
    a. Background
    Connie Ridley, defendant’s mother, testified that her son
    should be spared the death penalty because “until the last few
    years, [he] has hurt no one.” The prosecution sought to impeach
    this assertion with pretrial statements Ridley made to its
    investigators. According to an investigator’s report, Ridley had
    said that defendant “got into a lot of serious trouble with the law
    as he was growing up. He was convicted of a sexual assault
    while in Sandpoint and was sent to the Cottonwood facility.”
    The defense objected to Ridley being confronted with her
    statements, pointing out that defendant did not “go to
    Cottonwood for [the Sandpoint assault],” having instead “spent
    a couple of months in county jail.”
    The assault the parties were referring to concerned 12-
    year-old Jennifer E. The parties agreed that defendant pleaded
    to a misdemeanor assault charge and was sentenced to the local
    jail for the incident. The trial court nonetheless allowed Ridley
    to be impeached with her pretrial statements, reasoning that if
    she “had knowledge of — of a sexual assault that he had been
    convicted of and, she believes, sent to prison,” then “even though
    those aren’t the facts, . . . it directly impeaches her testimony”
    that he “hasn’t hurt anyone up until the past few years.” In
    accordance with the court’s ruling, the prosecutor asked Ridley,
    “Did you tell Investigator Hanley and Investigator Hobson . . .
    that your son, Rex, got into a lot of serious trouble with the law
    as he was growing up?” Ridley answered yes, and the prosecutor
    followed up with, “Okay. And that’s when you told them that he
    was convicted of a sexual assault while in Sandpoint and was
    sent to the Cottonwood facility?” Ridley again answered, “Yes.”
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    The prosecution likewise cross-examined several
    witnesses by referring to Ridley’s pretrial statement that
    defendant “was convicted in Sandpoint Idaho of a sexual
    assault.” Although these witnesses were examined before
    Jennifer E. took the stand, Jennifer did testify. She told the jury
    that one evening in February 1984, she found defendant on top
    of her, trying to unzip her and his pants after she told him that
    she did not want to have sex with him. As she continued to
    struggle, defendant punched her “hard” “on the forehead, the
    eye area, and . . . on the jaw.” The defense disputed few of the
    details of the assault, simply drawing out that alcohol had been
    involved.
    b. Analysis
    Defendant asserts the prosecutor committed misconduct
    by “insinuat[ing]” to the jury during cross-examination that
    defendant was convicted of yet another sexual assault in
    addition to those relating to Shelley C., A.C., and the two
    murder victims in this case. We reject the claim.
    It is well established that a prosecutor may not “ ‘ask
    questions of a witness that suggest facts harmful to a defendant,
    absent a good faith belief that such facts exist.’ ” (People v.
    Bolden (2002) 
    29 Cal. 4th 515
    , 562.) Under this standard, the
    prosecution did not commit misconduct in questioning
    defendant’s mother.       As the trial court explained, the
    prosecution did not pose the complained-of question to Ridley to
    suggest that defendant was convicted of a sexual assault and
    sent to Cottonwood prison. Instead, he was asking her that
    question to establish an inconsistency in her testimony: that
    she believed her son, at 18, was sent to prison for sexual assault
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    and yet still maintained that “until the last few years, [he] has
    hurt no one.”
    A different analysis is called for when the prosecution
    asked other witnesses about Ridley’s statement. With these
    witnesses, the prosecution was not seeking to establish
    inconsistencies, but rather implying the truth of its questions:
    that defendant’s mother believed he was convicted of a sexual
    assault because he was, in fact, convicted of such an assault. At
    no point during trial, however, did the prosecution imply that
    the sexual assault conviction was some conviction other than
    that relating to Jennifer E. And Jennifer E.’s testimony —
    largely uncontradicted by the defense — indicated that
    defendant sexually assaulted her. Defendant struck Jennifer
    while trying to undo her pants after she refused to have sex with
    him. Under such circumstances, it is hardly misleading to call
    defendant’s act a sexual assault. Indeed, all witnesses who
    referred to the Jennifer E. incident described it as a sexual
    assault of some sort. Defendant himself admitted in his
    interview with Hobson that he attempted to rape a “young girl”
    when he was 18. Dr. Berlin, the main defense expert, similarly
    testified that “[a]t the age of 18, [defendant] . . . forced himself
    sexually upon a young lady.”
    To the extent that defendant now claims that he was not
    convicted of sexual assault, he seems to be drawing a hyper-
    technical distinction: that his conviction for misdemeanor
    assault, which stemmed from sexual assaultive conduct, was
    different from “a conviction of sexual assault.” We are not
    convinced that the distinction, if it exists, is meaningful.
    Whether or not defendant was convicted of the specific crime of
    sexual assault, he was convicted for conduct that any reasonable
    jury would think of as sexual assault. As such, the prosecutor’s
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    questions did not result in prejudice.               (E.g., People v.
    Cunningham (2001) 
    25 Cal. 4th 926
    , 1019.)
    7. Prosecutor’s remarks in opening and closing
    statements
    Defendant argues that the prosecutor committed multiple
    instances of misconduct in his opening and closing remarks.
    “ ‘ “As a general rule, a defendant may not complain on appeal
    of prosecutorial misconduct unless in a timely fashion — and on
    the same ground — the defendant made an assignment of
    misconduct and requested that the jury be admonished to
    disregard the impropriety.” ’ ” (People v. Covarrubias (2016) 1
    Cal.5th 838, 894 (Covarrubias).)
    Except as noted below, defendant failed to object to the
    comments of which he now complains. Because an objection and
    request for an admonishment would not have been futile,
    defendant has forfeited his claims. (E.g., People v. Clark (2011)
    
    52 Cal. 4th 856
    , 960 (Clark); Spencer, supra, 5 Cal.5th at p. 683;
    cf. People v. Bandhauer (1967) 
    66 Cal. 2d 524
    , 530 [permitting
    the defendant to raise the issue of prosecutorial misconduct for
    the first time on appeal when the ground for objection was not
    “apparent” until it was “too late to cure the error by
    admonition”].) And, forfeiture aside, we find no merit to
    defendant’s arguments.
    a. Use of the word “animal” and “argumentative
    attacks”
    Defendant begins by complaining that the prosecution
    called him an “animal.”      In its opening statement, the
    prosecution recounted the incident with A.C. After describing
    how defendant broke into A.C.’s house, struggled with her down
    the hallway, and banged her head on the wall, prosecutor said,
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    “finally this animal bites her on the finger so bad he cuts the
    tendons in her finger.”
    “Argument may include opprobrious epithets warranted
    by the evidence. [Citation.] Where they are so supported, we
    have condoned a wide range of epithets to describe the egregious
    nature of the defendant’s conduct,” including “ ‘monstrous,’ ”
    “ ‘ “perverted murderous cancer,” ’ ” “ ‘ “human monster,” ’ ” and
    “ ‘mutation.’ ” (People v. Zambrano (2007) 
    41 Cal. 4th 1082
    , 1172
    (Zambrano).)      No one disputes that defendant bit A.C..
    Accordingly, an isolated reference to defendant as an “animal”
    who bit his victim does not amount to misconduct.
    Defendant further objects to “argumentative attacks” on
    his trial counsel. As part of his opening statement, the
    prosecutor highlighted defendant’s criminal record and said, in
    light of such record, it was “absolutely amazing” that defense
    counsel would “want . . . you to give him a break.” The
    prosecutor also emphasized the expected victim impact
    statements. Referring to the defense attorney who argued that,
    by confessing, defendant “was the one who helped bring closure”
    to the victims’ families, the prosecutor said, “[s]he doesn’t
    understand this. There has been no closure for these families.”
    We fail to see any misconduct. “When the comments are
    considered in context, there is no likelihood that the jury would
    have understood the comments as anything beyond criticism of
    defense counsel’s tactical approach in argument and the defense
    view of the evidence in the case, as is allowed.” (Linton, supra,
    56 Cal.4th at p. 1206.)
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    b. Comments on defense mitigation strategy,
    experts, and counsel
    Defendant complains that the prosecutor improperly
    denigrated his mitigation strategy, expert witnesses, and trial
    counsel. Defendant’s strategy at the penalty phase was to offer
    evidence of his childhood abuse, mental illness, and the failure
    of various institutions to treat him. The prosecution previewed
    this strategy by telling the jury, “[t]he evidence you will be
    presented with from these defense attorneys will try to blame
    everybody but their client. They’ll call it an explanation, but it’s
    really a blame game. They’re going to blame the State of Idaho.
    They’re going to blame the State of California. . . . Mostly
    they’re going to blame [defendant’s] father.” The prosecutor
    returned to the same theme in closing argument, arguing that
    defense was “trying to deflect . . . responsibility” and instead
    “lay some kind of a guilt trip on you for what their client truly
    deserves.” The prosecutor also characterized the defense as
    offering an “ ‘abuse excuse.’ ”
    We find no misconduct. The thrust of the prosecutor’s
    argument was that defendant alone was responsible for his
    crimes and could not shift the blame onto others, even if he did
    suffer abuse, mental disorder, and lack of treatment. There is
    nothing “deceptive” or “reprehensible” about such an argument.
    (E.g., People v. Gonzales (2011) 
    51 Cal. 4th 894
    , 947 (Gonzales).)
    “Prosecutors may attack the defense case and argument. ‘Doing
    so is proper and is, indeed, the essence of advocacy.’ ” (People v.
    Thornton (2007) 
    41 Cal. 4th 391
    , 455 (Thornton).) Likewise, the
    prosecutor’s use of pungent language, calling defense strategy a
    “blame game,” “guilt trip,” or “abuse excuse,” does not rise to the
    level of misconduct.       (E.g., ibid. [no misconduct in the
    prosecutor’s suggestion that “defendant was relying on an
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    ‘abuse excuse’ ”]; People v. Davis (1995) 
    10 Cal. 4th 463
    , 539
    (Davis) [no misconduct when the prosecutor said the defense
    strategy was “ ‘to attack and smear everybody they could in the
    hopes of somehow deflecting or diffusing blame’ ” and “ ‘to try
    to lay a guilt trip on you’ ”].)
    As part of the same argument, defendant also objects to
    the prosecutor’s attacks on the credibility of Drs. Berlin and
    Haney. Defendant did not lodge specific objections against these
    statements.21 And even if he did, “ ‘harsh and colorful attacks
    on the credibility of opposing witnesses are permissible.’ ”
    (Clark, supra, 52 Cal.4th at p. 962.) So, too, are remarks “to
    expose bias in the witness[es] by showing [their] propensity to
    advocate for criminal defendants even in extreme cases.”
    (Zambrano, supra, 41 Cal.4th at p. 1165.) Accordingly, none of
    the prosecutor’s remarks amounts to misconduct.
    Finally, defendant accuses the prosecutor of having
    impugned the integrity of defense counsel. In his closing
    argument, the prosecutor posed the rhetorical question, “You
    think they just pick these witnesses out of a hat? You think a
    lot of this defense was orchestrated?” Later, referring to the fact
    that Dr. Haney sat in on an interview that Dr. Berlin conducted
    with defendant, the prosecutor said, “What kind of
    professionalism is that? . . . [¶] Why did they do that? Was it
    to get all the ducks in a row?”
    21
    Defendant did object when the prosecutor said “to show
    you how absolutely ridiculous the defendant’s psychology team
    is, we will present Dr. Park Dietz.” The objection, however, was
    on the ground that the prosecution should not be able to
    “reference . . . any rebuttal evidence . . . in opening statement,”
    an objection entirely different from the argument now raised on
    appeal.
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    It is true that “[a] prosecutor is not permitted to make
    false or unsubstantiated accusations that counsel is fabricating
    a defense or deceiving the jury.” (Clark, supra, 52 Cal.4th at
    p. 961.) In context, however, the prosecutor’s statement that the
    “defense was orchestrated” does not appear to rise to an
    insinuation of deceit. The prosecutor contrasted “orchestrated”
    with “pick[ing] . . . witnesses out of a hat.” So by saying that the
    defense was “orchestrated,” the prosecution seemed to mean
    that it was carefully crafted, or presented with a deliberate
    selection of witnesses. Of course, there is nothing untoward in
    a careful selection of witnesses. But then it is not misconduct
    either to tell the jury that as the opposing party was deliberate
    and selective in its presentation, the jury should be aware of the
    fact and judge the case accordingly. (Accord, Davis, supra, 10
    Cal.4th at pp. 538-539 [rejecting the claim that the prosecution
    accused the defense of “manipulating witnesses and suppressing
    testimony of uncooperative witnesses” when it suggested that
    the defendant’s brother, unlike his sisters, did not testify
    because “ ‘he knew what they wanted and wasn’t willing to do
    it’ ”].)
    Likewise, the statement that the defense witnesses
    interviewed defendant together “to get all the ducks in a row”
    was not misconduct. The prosecution implied that the defense
    coordinated its experts but stopped short of insinuating that the
    experts lied. In any event, the comment was brief and
    interposed in the middle of a lengthy closing argument. It did
    not result in prejudice.
    c. Asserted statement of personal belief
    Defendant asserts the prosecutor improperly injected his
    personal belief by beginning his closing statement with the
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    following: “While some of us have been working on this case for
    over two years now . . . you, too, have now devoted a significant
    portion of your lives to this case. . . . [¶] You realize now what
    so many of us have realized for a long time. You realize now you
    have been in the presence of one of the most cruel, calculating,
    and brutal individuals on the planet, Rex Allan Krebs.”
    Prosecutors may not “base argument on facts not in
    evidence” or otherwise seek to “ ‘ “bolster their case ‘by invoking
    their . . . depth of experience, or the prestige or reputation of
    their office.’ ” ’ ” (Mendoza, supra, 62 Cal.4th at p. 906; Linton,
    supra, 56 Cal.4th at p. 1207.) Here, the prosecutor did not do
    either of those things. At closing argument, after the jury has
    heard all the evidence, the prosecutor urged it to “realize” that
    defendant was a most “cruel, calculating, and brutal
    individual[].” Although the prosecutor indicated that by coming
    to such a realization, the jury would be agreeing with the
    prosecution’s poor opinion of defendant, it nowhere suggested
    that the prosecution formed that opinion based on “ ‘ “evidence
    available to the government, but not before the jury.” ’ ” (Linton,
    supra, 56 Cal.4th at p. 1207.) Nor did it imply that the jury
    should adopt the prosecution’s view because of its “ ‘ “ prestige,
    reputation, or depth of experience.” ’ ” (Ibid.) Accordingly, there
    was neither impermissible vouching nor reliance on evidence
    outside the record.
    d. Asserted mischaracterization of Drs. Berlin and
    Haney’s testimony
    Defendant raises additional issues relating to the
    prosecutor’s characterization of Drs. Berlin’s and Haney’s
    testimony. With regard to Berlin, defendant objects to the
    portion in the prosecutor’s closing argument in which he said:
    “the defense attorney[] seeks out Dr. Berlin from across the
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    country. Can’t find somebody in California. Can’t even find
    somebody west of the Rockies. Gets Dr. Berlin from across the
    country to travel to California.”
    Generally, “prosecutors have wide latitude to discuss and
    draw inferences from the evidence presented at trial.”
    (Thornton, supra, 41 Cal.4th at p. 454.) In this case, no one
    disputed that Dr. Berlin was affiliated with Johns Hopkins
    University and so was “from across the country.”                The
    implication of the prosecution’s statements goes further than
    that, however. By remarking that “the defense . . . can’t . . . find
    somebody west of the Rockies” and had to go “across the country”
    to “seek[] out Dr. Berlin,” the prosecution implied that Berlin’s
    views were idiosyncratic, not shared by anyone “west of the
    Rockies.” Yet Dr. Dietz — the prosecution’s own witness —
    testified that although he and Berlin disagreed, “we’re in an
    area where there are competing points of view” and Dietz
    respected his colleague’s opinion.        The prosecution also
    represented during voir dire that Berlin was “one of the top
    psychologists in the country.” As such, there is some tension
    between the prosecutor’s closing argument and what he and his
    expert had said elsewhere.
    Nonetheless, even assuming the prosecutor overstepped
    his bounds, any error is not prejudicial. The jury was told of Dr.
    Berlin’s credentials, that he was “an associate professor at the
    John[]s Hopkins University,” “an attending physician at the
    John[]s Hopkins’s Hospital,” “the founder of the John[]s Hopkins
    Sexual Disorders Clinic,” and the director for a national
    institute on sexual trauma. In addition, the jury knew that
    Berlin had published in peer reviewed journals, spoken to
    judges, appeared before senators, and been certified by
    numerous professional boards. It also knew that Berlin did the
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    same residency at Johns Hopkins and served on the same “DSM
    publication committee” as Dr. Dietz. In addition, the jury heard
    a direct rebuttal to the charge that the defense “couldn’t find a
    doctor west of the Rockies.” As defendant’s attorney stated, “We
    went to John[s] Hopkins. They went looking for the best guy
    they could find. We went looking for the best guy we could find.
    They’re both from John[s] Hopkins.”
    Finally, the court instructed the jury regarding expert
    testimony. It twice told the jury to “consider the qualifications
    and believability of the witness” as well as the underlying bases
    for their opinions. The instructions for the jury to focus on the
    relevant matters, combined with the rebuttal revealing the
    tenuous ground on which the prosecution asserted that Dr.
    Berlin’s opinion could not be found “west of the Rockies,”
    eliminated any reasonable possibility that the jury would have
    been persuaded to reach a different penalty verdict absent the
    prosecutor’s challenged comments.
    With regard to Dr. Haney, defendant is correct that the
    prosecution misstated the record when it said, “He called him
    the ‘Hole Boy.’ ” The term “hole boy” or “hole kid” referred to the
    period of time that defendant spent in isolation during his stay
    at Cottonwood prison. Defendant had represented to Haney
    that he did a significant amount of time in isolation, going so far
    as call himself the “Hole Kid.” But it was defendant who gave
    himself that name; Haney did not call defendant the “hole kid”
    or “hole boy.”
    It is clear, however, that the misstatement does not
    warrant reversal of the death judgment. The moniker “hole boy”
    or “hole kid” was relevant to the prosecution’s argument insofar
    as it tended to show that Dr. Haney was biased; after all, he
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    knowingly depended on defendant — a witness with a motive to
    lie — to supply his social history. To the extent that defendant
    indeed lied about how much time he spent in isolation, the
    prosecution’s point was valid. The fact that Haney did not call
    defendant a “hole boy” had little significance.
    e. Exhortation for the jury to be “outraged”
    Finally, defendant urges us to find misconduct in a
    comment the prosecutor made toward the end of his closing
    statement. “Justice,” said the prosecutor, “is not served until
    the citizens of our community, jurors and citizens alike, are as
    outraged by what Rex Krebs did as the families of his victims.”
    “[P]rosecutorial references to community vengeance, while
    potentially inflammatory, are not misconduct if they are brief
    and isolated, and do not form the principal basis for advocating
    the death penalty.” (Zambrano, supra, 41 Cal.4th at p. 1178.)
    The brief comment here does not amount to error.
    8. Order to submit to psychiatric examination by
    prosecution expert
    Over defense objection, the trial court ordered defendant
    to be examined by Dr. Dietz. Defendant refused and was not
    examined, a fact Dietz disclosed during his testimony. The
    prosecution also mentioned defendant’s refusal to be examined
    in closing argument, stating, “the defendant will spend days
    talking to Dr. Berlin . . . but when the Court orders the
    defendant to talk to Dr. Dietz . . . the defendant refused.
    Where’s the fairness in that? Who’s looking for the truth?”
    On appeal, the Attorney General concedes that the court
    erred in ordering defendant to be examined by Dr. Dietz. (See
    Verdin v. Superior Court (2008) 
    43 Cal. 4th 1096
    , 1109 (Verdin)
    [“any rule that existed before 1990 suggesting or holding a
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    criminal defendant who places his or her mental state in issue
    may thereby be required to grant the prosecution access for
    purposes of a mental examination by a prosecution expert was
    superseded by the enactment of the criminal discovery statutes
    in 1990”]; Gonzales, supra, 51 Cal.4th at p. 927, fn. 15 [applying
    Verdin retroactively].)22 The Attorney General argues, however,
    that the error did not cause prejudice. We agree.
    This case is much like People v. Wallace (2008) 
    44 Cal. 4th 1032
    , 1087-1088 (Wallace), where we found the Verdin error
    harmless. As in Wallace, the prosecution expert here “did not
    rely on defendant’s refusal to participate in the court-ordered
    examination” to criticize his opponent’s conclusions. (Id. at
    p. 1087.) Moreover, “the brutality of defendant’s crimes . . .
    weighs heavily in aggravation.” (Ibid.) Such factors, along with
    the fact that the defense provided the jury with an explanation
    of why defendant refused to be examined by Dr. Dietz (because
    he would have examined defendant with an opinion already
    formed), lean against a finding of prejudice.
    Of course, there are differences between this case and
    Wallace as well. In Wallace, the jury “heard [from yet another
    expert for whom no Verdin error occurred] that the reliability of
    the defense expert testimony was questionable.” (Wallace,
    supra, 44 Cal.4th at p. 1087.) Furthermore, the prosecutor in
    Wallace did not remark on the defendant’s refusal to be
    examined. Nonetheless, these differences do not persuade us to
    22
    “Shortly after Verdin, the Legislature amended section
    1054.3 to expressly authorize courts to compel a mental
    examination by a prosecution-retained expert. (See § 1054.3,
    subd. (b), as amended by Stats. 2009, ch. 297, § 1.) But because
    this case predates that amendment, Verdin applies.” (People v.
    Banks (2014) 
    59 Cal. 4th 1113
    , 1193 (Banks).)
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    a different conclusion. The jury here did not hear from another
    prosecution expert, but it did hear details supporting Dr. Dietz’s
    testimony from both defendant and his expert. Dietz testified
    that defendant’s choices showed that he did not suffer from
    volitional impairment. Defendant’s confessions then supplied,
    in vivid detail, the choices he made, and Dr. Berlin confirmed
    that defendant consciously stopped resisting his impulses after
    a bar fight. As for the prosecutor’s brief comments in closing
    argument highlighting defendant’s refusal to submit to an
    interview with Dietz, they do not provide a basis to reprise all of
    defendant’s arguments about opposing party’s supposed
    “venomous treatment of the defense experts.” With few
    exceptions, we have found that the prosecution conducted itself
    within the bounds allowed by law. Under the totality of the
    circumstances, “it is not reasonably possible that [in the absence
    of the Verdin error] the jury would have returned a penalty
    verdict of life without parole . . . rather than death.” (Wallace,
    supra, 44 Cal.4th at pp. 1087-1088.)
    9. Instructions relating to section 190.3
    Defendant raises two arguments regarding the pattern
    instructions the jury received concerning the aggravating and
    mitigating factors under section 190.3. We reject both claims.
    a. Mitigating circumstance
    Using CALJIC No. 8.85, the trial court told the jury: “In
    determining which penalty is to be imposed on defendant . . .
    [y]ou shall consider, take into account and be guided by the
    following factors . . . .” The court then instructed the jury on the
    various factors enumerated in section 190.3, including, as is
    relevant here, factors (d) and (h). The court thus instructed the
    jury that it should consider “[w]hether or not the offense was
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    committed while the defendant was under the influence of
    extreme mental or emotional disturbance” and “[w]hether or not
    at the time of the offense the capacity of the defendant to
    appreciate the criminality of his conduct or to conform his
    conduct to the requirements of law was impaired as a result of
    mental disease or defect or the effects of intoxication.”
    Defendant first argues that the pattern instructions above
    improperly informed the jury that “any listed factor could be
    considered as aggravation.” Specifically, defendant contends
    that if a jury finds that a defendant did not act “under the
    influence of extreme mental or emotional disturbance” or was
    not impaired in his “capacity . . . to appreciate the criminality of
    his conduct or to conform his conduct to the requirements of
    law,” then because of the “whether or not” language of the
    instruction, the jury will interpret the absence of such
    mitigating factors to be an aggravating circumstance. We have
    repeatedly rejected such argument. (E.g., People v. Miracle
    (2018) 6 Cal.5th 318, 354 (Miracle); People v. Wall (2017) 3
    Cal.5th 1048, 1073; Banks, supra, 59 Cal.4th at pp. 1207-1208;
    People v. Cook (2006) 
    39 Cal. 4th 566
    , 618 [“CALJIC No. 8.85’s
    use of the phrase ‘whether or not,’ is not an invitation to jurors
    who find ‘a factor not proven’ to then ‘use that factor as a factor
    favoring imposition of the death penalty’ ”]; People v. Sapp
    (2003) 
    31 Cal. 4th 240
    , 315.) We once again reject it here.
    To the extent defendant attempts to rely on other
    instructions to bolster his argument, we find the effort
    unpersuasive. For instance, defendant points to statements the
    court made to certain jurors during voir dire. These earlier
    statements do not help defendant, as the jury was instructed to
    “[d]isregard all other instructions given . . . in other phases of
    th[e] trial” before entering penalty deliberation.
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    Similarly, the fact that the court gave a jury instruction
    patterned on CALJIC No. 8.88 adds little to defendant’s claim.
    This instruction defined “[a]n aggravating factor [a]s any fact,
    condition or event attending the commission of a crime which
    increases its guilt or enormity.” Defendant asserts that under
    this definition, the jury may have considered his mental illness
    and intoxication — the same circumstances mentioned under
    section 190.3, factor (h) — as aggravating because they were
    “fact[s], condition[s], or event[s] attending the commission of the
    crime.”
    We agree that the jury may indeed have drawn this
    conclusion, but find no impropriety thereby. Both parties here
    agreed that defendant’s alcohol use and mental disorder
    (whether it be sexual sadism, as claimed by the defense, or
    antisocial personality disorder, as argued by the prosecution)
    were drivers behind his abductions, rapes, and ultimately,
    murders of Newhouse and Crawford. As such, defendant’s
    intoxication and mental disorders were relevant to
    “circumstances of the crime of which the defendant was
    convicted in the present proceeding and the existence of any
    special circumstances found to be true.” (§ 190.3, factor (a).)
    Hence, the jury may properly have considered them
    aggravating, even though they “also bear[] upon a mitigating
    factor” listed in section 190.3. (People v. Smith, supra,
    35 Cal.4th at p. 356.)
    Put differently, although impairment as a result of a
    mental disorder or intoxication is always mitigating, the mere
    presence of a mental disorder or intoxication is not. In cases
    where a mental disorder and/or drunkenness relate to the
    circumstances of the crime, they may be aggravating and it is
    not error to allow the jury to consider them as such. (See People
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    v. Smith, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p. 356 [“evidence of mental illness
    . . . is admissible in the prosecution’s case-in-chief [as an
    aggravating circumstance] if, as here, it relates to an
    aggravating factor listed in section 190.3”].)
    In sum, we reject defendant’s claim that the pattern
    instructions improperly allowed the jury to consider any strictly
    mitigating circumstance as aggravating.
    b. Vagueness
    Defendant argues that section 190.3, factor (h) is
    unconstitutionally vague.        Specifically, he contends the
    instruction is infirm because (1) it fails to define the phrase
    “mental disease or defect” and (2) it does not adequately explain
    “the concept of volitional capacity impairment conveyed by the
    phrase ‘capacity . . . to conform his conduct to the requirements
    of the law was impaired.’ ” We disagree.
    Defendant’s argument about the term “mental disease or
    defect” in section 190.3, factor (h) is, by and large, a reprisal of
    his contention that the trial court needed to define the term on
    its own motion. Defendant once again asserts that the phrase
    is not “ ‘commonly understandable’ ” given Dr. Dietz’s
    testimony. However, as we have earlier explained, although
    Dietz espoused a narrow definition of “mental disease or defect,”
    the testimony, arguments, and instructions considered in their
    entirety did not preclude the jury from treating defendant’s
    mental conditions as mitigating. Accordingly, even assuming
    that the instruction was vague, no prejudicial error occurred.
    We further reject defendant’s argument concerning the
    asserted vagueness of the phrase “the capacity of the defendant
    . . . to conform his conduct to the requirements of law was
    impaired as a result of mental disease or defect.” (§ 190.3, subd.
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    (h).) Defendant claims that such language is vague because
    “[w]hen a person ‘gives in’ to an impulse, urge, craving or desire
    which is associated with a mental illness, and commits a crime,”
    it is not clear whether “the act of ‘giving in’ or acting on the urge
    properly [is] considered an act of free will, or . . . an act
    evidencing an impaired capacity to control one’s behavior.” Yet,
    if this is the difficulty, then defendant’s argument boils down to
    nothing more than that the jury had a difficult job to do. It fell
    upon the jury to sift between competing testimony, theories, and
    arguments to draw its own conclusion about whether
    defendant’s actions evidenced “an impaired capacity to control
    one’s behavior” or the choice not to resist evil impulses. This is
    a factual question on which no instruction of law could have
    provided the answer. The factor is not vague just because its
    application to specific facts is an irreducibly difficult task.
    (Accord, Tuilaepa v. California (1994) 
    512 U.S. 967
    , 977
    [“difficulty in application is not equivalent to vagueness”].)
    10. Constitutionality of California’s death penalty
    scheme
    Defendant argues California’s death penalty scheme is
    unconstitutional, although he concedes that we have repeatedly
    rejected such arguments. Because defendant advances no
    persuasive reason for us to revisit the issues, we continue to hold
    as follows.
    “California’s death penalty laws adequately narrow the
    class of murderers subject to the death penalty.” (Powell, supra,
    5 Cal.5th at p. 963.)
    The death penalty statute is not unconstitutional despite
    not requiring “findings beyond a reasonable doubt that an
    aggravating circumstance (other than Pen. Code, § 190.3, factor
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    (b) or (c) evidence) has been proved, that the aggravating factors
    outweighed the mitigating factors, or that death is the
    appropriate sentence.” (People v. Rangel (2016) 
    62 Cal. 4th 1192
    ,
    1235.)
    “Because capital defendants and noncapital defendants
    are not similarly situated, California does not deny capital
    defendants equal protection by providing certain procedural
    protections to noncapital defendants but not to capital
    defendants. [Citation.] In particular, written findings by a jury
    recommending a death sentence are not required.” (Spencer,
    supra, 5 Cal.5th at p. 695.)
    Section 190.3, factor (a) is not unconstitutionally
    overbroad, arbitrary, capricious, or vague as applied. (Miracle,
    supra, 6 Cal.5th at p. 353.)
    Intercase proportionality review             is   not   required.
    (Mendoza, supra, 62 Cal.4th at p. 916.)
    The use of unadjudicated criminal activity as an
    aggravating factor under section 190.3, factor (b) does not
    violate constitutional mandates. (Merriman, supra, 
    60 Cal. 4th 1
    , 106.)
    The trial court “was not required to instruct the jury that
    the statutory mitigating factors were relevant solely to
    mitigation, and the court’s instruction directing the jury to
    consider ‘whether or not’ certain mitigating factors were present
    did not invite the jury to use the absence of such factors as an
    aggravating circumstance, in violation of state law and the
    Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments.” (Powell, supra, 5 Cal.5th
    at p. 964.)
    “Prosecutorial discretion and the absence of standards for
    deciding whether or not to seek the death penalty in an eligible
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    case” do not render California’s death penalty laws
    unconstitutional. (Merriman, supra, 60 Cal.4th at p. 107.)
    The death qualification process of jurors does not violate
    the United States Constitution or international law.
    (Covarrubias, supra, 1 Cal.5th at p. 868.)
    Victim impact evidence “is admissible as a circumstance
    of the crime under section 190.3, factor (a).” (Spencer, supra,
    5 Cal.5th at p. 676.) The use of such evidence is neither
    “nonstatutory” nor “unrestricted.”
    The imposition of the death penalty under California’s law
    does not violate international law or prevailing norms of
    decency. (Clark, supra, 52 Cal.4th at p. 1008.)
    The delay in executing a condemned inmate does not
    violate the Eighth Amendment. (People v. Ochoa (2001)
    
    26 Cal. 4th 398
    , 462-464.) The rarity of executions does not
    result in arbitrary results.         (People v. Seumanu (2015)
    
    61 Cal. 4th 1293
    , 1371-1375.) Contrary to the argument raised
    in defendant’s supplemental brief, the Governor’s moratorium
    on the death penalty does not compel the court to reexamine
    these holdings. (Governor’s Exec. Order No. N-09-19 (Mar. 13,
    2019) [stating that the order “does not . . . alter any current
    conviction or sentence” and likewise “does not[] create any rights
    or benefits . . . enforceable at law”].)
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    III. DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed in its entirety.
    CANTIL-SAKAUYE, C. J.
    We Concur:
    CHIN, J.
    CORRIGAN, J.
    LIU, J.
    CUÉLLAR, J.
    KRUGER, J.
    GROBAN, J.
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    See next page for addresses and telephone numbers for counsel who argued in Supreme Court.
    Name of Opinion People v. Krebs
    __________________________________________________________________________________
    Unpublished Opinion
    Original Appeal XXX
    Original Proceeding
    Review Granted
    Rehearing Granted
    __________________________________________________________________________________
    Opinion No. S099439
    Date Filed: November 21, 2019
    __________________________________________________________________________________
    Court: Superior
    County: San Luis Obispo
    Judge: Barry T. LaBarbera
    __________________________________________________________________________________
    Counsel:
    Neil B. Quinn, under appointment by the Supreme Court, for Defendant and Appellant.
    Kamala D. Harris and Xavier Becerra, Attorneys General, Dane R. Gillette, Chief Assistant Attorney
    General, Pamela C. Hamanaka, Assistant Attorney General, Keith H. Borjon, Sharlene A. Honnaka, A.
    Scott Hayward and Kenneth C. Byrne, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and Respondent.
    Counsel who argued in Supreme Court (not intended for publication with opinion):
    Neil B. Quinn
    Attorney at Law
    300 Douglas Street
    Ojai, CA 93023
    (805) 646-5832
    Kenneth C. Byrne
    Deputy Attorney General
    300 South Spring Street, Suite 1702
    Los Angeles, CA 90013
    (213) 269-6008