People v. Maldonado CA5 ( 2014 )


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  • Filed 12/16/14 P. v. Maldonado CA5
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    IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    FIFTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    THE PEOPLE,
    F067097
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    (Super. Ct. No. MCR043131)
    v.
    CARLOS GENE MALDONADO,                                                                  OPINION
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Madera County. Joseph A.
    Soldani, Judge.
    Stephen M. Hinkle, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
    Appellant.
    Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General, Dane R. Gillette, Chief Assistant Attorney
    General, Michael P. Farrell, Assistant Attorney General, Stephen G. Herndon and Henry
    J. Valle, Deputy Attorneys General for Plaintiff and Respondent.
    -ooOoo-
    Carlos Gene Maldonado (defendant) was convicted of attempted murder and three
    counts of assault with a firearm. He argues that (1) his police interview was admitted into
    evidence in error because it was obtained in violation of Miranda;1 (2) the prosecution
    was improperly permitted to ask a witness leading questions; (3) hearsay statements were
    improperly admitted under the exception for prior inconsistent statements when the prior
    statements were not really inconsistent with the live testimony; and (4) testimonial
    hearsay was admitted in violation of the confrontation clause of the Sixth Amendment.
    Finding no error, we will affirm the judgment.
    FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
    Madera County sheriff’s deputies responded to a reported shooting at a residence
    in Madera on March 18, 2012. The residence consisted of a mobile home with a motor
    home parked behind it. Present were Scott Greer, Tamara Thomas, Tamara’s mother
    Roshena Blakney, and Roshena’s husband Ronald Blakney. The residence belonged to
    Roshena and Ronald,2 who lived in the motor home. Tamara was visiting and staying in a
    room in the mobile home, and Scott was renting a room in the mobile home. When the
    deputies arrived, Scott had been shot four times and sustained life-threatening wounds in
    his chest, abdomen, and leg. A bullet grazed Ronald’s shoulder and another grazed
    Roshena’s neck. Tamara had a painful and swollen ankle but had not been shot. Seven
    shell casings were found in the yard and driveway.
    Detective Bennie Romiti interviewed Tamara at the sheriff’s department office on
    the evening of the day of the shooting. Her statement was recorded and transcribed.
    Tamara told Romiti that her cousin Charlie knocked at the door. Charlie’s brother Timmy
    and another cousin named James were with him. Charlie was defendant and Timmy was
    his younger brother, Timothy Maldonado. Defendant was holding a gun and Tamara told
    1Miranda   v. Arizona (1966) 
    384 U.S. 436
     (Miranda).
    2Because   some of the parties share a last name, we will refer to each of them by
    their first names for clarity and convenience. No disrespect is intended.
    2.
    him he should leave, but defendant entered anyway. Tamara smelled alcohol on
    defendant’s breath.
    Tamara ran to get her mother, and when she came back, defendant had put down
    his gun and he and Scott were fighting with their shirts off in front of the mobile home.
    Scott was winning the fight, so Timothy tried to intervene on defendant’s behalf. Tamara
    grabbed Timothy and tried to persuade him to desist, but defendant grabbed her by the
    hair and pulled her away. Next, Roshena attacked defendant and he conceded his defeat
    by Scott. “‘Yeah, you whooped my ass,’” defendant said. James, however, was now
    holding two guns and handed them to defendant. Then the shooting took place, which
    Tamara described thus: “I could just see—I just see boom, boom, boom, like this. And I
    heard—I heard, um, (Scott) scream like, you know, up—for pain .…”3
    In response to follow-up questions, Tamara confirmed that defendant was the
    shooter:
    “Q: So I wanna back up. When you—you saw (James) hand [defendant]
    the guns, and then did you see [defendant] pulling the trigger?
    “A:      I seen—like this. Yes. I seen like this.
    “Q:      So he was just shooting .…
    “A: It was just like this. And I hear (unintelligible) and then—then that’s
    when I turned and I’m like this and I—that’s when .…
    “Q:      But you didn’t see (Scott) fall; you just hear him scream?
    “A:      No I didn’t see—yeah, I didn’t see (Scott) fall.
    “Q:      But you—you—you observed [defendant] pulling the trigger?
    “A:      Yeah, I guess because I seen it.
    “Q:      Okay. And he had a gun in each hand?
    3Scott   was the victim.
    3.
    “A:    Yeah. My own cousin.”
    Ronald also made a statement to Romiti on the evening of the day of the shooting.
    Ronald’s statement was recorded and transcribed.4 Ronald said that when he came to the
    front of the mobile home, he found Scott arguing with defendant and Timothy. Scott said
    he was ready to fight both of them. Then Scott beat up defendant. Timothy tried to come
    to defendant’s aid, but Tamara interfered. Defendant said, “‘Okay. You whopped my
    ass,’” but then he had a gun and began shooting at Scott. According to Romiti, Ronald
    said he could “only see [defendant] from shoulders up, and the motions he was making
    [were] consistent with somebody firing a gun.” Ronald did not say he saw the gun in
    defendant’s hands, but he was “a hundred percent sure” defendant was the shooter.
    On March 22, 2012, four days after the shooting, defendant was taken into
    custody. He told Sergeant Zachary Zamudio that he had ingested methamphetamine.
    Concerned about a possible overdose, Zamudio had defendant transported to a hospital.
    Zamudio and Detective Kristine Hawk interviewed defendant in the emergency room.
    The interview was recorded and transcribed, but because the recorder was in Zamudio’s
    pocket part of the time and the emergency room was noisy, most of defendant’s
    statements are unintelligible.
    Defendant said he was fighting and got hit in the face. Timothy separated him
    from Scott. Defendant had a nine-millimeter gun. Scott also had a gun.
    Among the portions of the transcript in which defendant gives intelligible answers
    directly addressing the shooting, two are particularly significant. The first reads as
    follows:
    “Zamudio:     Do you know the other people that you hit?
    “Defendant: (Unintelligible.)
    4Neither  the recording nor the transcript is included in the appellate record. The
    description in the text above is based on Romiti’s testimony at trial.
    4.
    “Zamudio: Were you aiming for the other ones? (Unintelligible) cause
    there was (unintelligible.)
    “Defendant: The only person I shot at, that I had any animosity
    (unintelligible).
    “Zamudio:     Cause there, cause there’s more than him who got hit.
    “Defendant: He got shot dam [sic] near point blank.
    “Zamudio:     I don’t know about .…
    “Hawk:        (Unintelligible.)
    “Zamudio:     Three through and throughs.
    “Hawk:        (Unintelligible.)
    “Defendant: Three through and through, right? (Unintelligible) hospital.”
    This is the second:
    “Zamudio: And another got hit on the shoulder and then somebody else
    (unintelligible). Did you happen to see what he did with the gun when—
    right after you shot him—did he reach for it, or .…
    “Defendant: He had it in his hand the whole time.”
    Timothy called the sheriff’s department to make a statement on March 23, 2012,
    the day after defendant was taken into custody. Timothy spoke to Zamudio. The
    statement was recorded and transcribed.5 Timothy said he and defendant went to
    Roshena and Ronald’s residence to talk with Scott about a missing gun. Scott came to the
    door and told defendant to put the guns down and they would fight. Scott and defendant
    fought, and Timothy tried to pull Scott off defendant. Tamara grabbed Timothy.
    Timothy went to the car and got a gun. After the shooting, Timothy said to defendant,
    5The  recording and transcript are not included in the appellate record. The
    description in the text above is based on Zamudio’s trial testimony.
    5.
    “‘[W]hat the fuck did you do? What the fuck did you do? I didn’t come down here for
    this shit.’” Defendant pointed the gun at Timothy and told him to get in the car.
    The district attorney filed an information charging defendant with four counts:
    (1) attempted murder of Scott (Pen. Code, §§ 187, 664);6 (2) assault on Ronald with a
    firearm (§ 245, subd. (a)(2)); (3) assault on Roshena with a firearm (ibid.); and (4) assault
    on Tamara with a firearm (ibid.). The information further alleged that defendant
    personally used and discharged a firearm (§§ 12022.5, 12022.53), caused great bodily
    injury (§ 12022.7, subd. (a)), had a prior strike conviction (§ 667, subds. (b)-(i)), and
    served a prior prison term (§ 667.5, subd. (b)).
    Defendant made a motion in limine to exclude his statement to the officers. At the
    hearing on the motion, defendant argued that the officers obtained his statement by
    continuing to question him after he invoked his right to an attorney. He relied on this
    portion of the transcript:
    “Zamudio:      Yeah. You said you were willing to talk to us.
    “Defendant: What you want to talk about?
    “Zamudio: What’s that? You’ve [been] around. You know I’ve got to
    read [you] your Miranda rights. Do you understand your rights? Do you
    know what your rights are? Okay. I’m going to read them to you and after
    I ask you if you understand, say yes or no, okay? You have the right to
    remain silent, do you understand? What’s that? I can’t hear you.
    “Defendant: Yes.
    “Zamudio: Ok. Anything you say may be used against you in court, do
    you understand? Yes? You have the right to the presence of an attorney
    before and during any questioning, do you understand?
    “Defendant: Yes.
    “Zamudio: Yes. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed
    for you free of charge before any questioning if you want? Do you
    6Subsequent   statutory references are to the Penal Code unless otherwise noted.
    6.
    understand that? What’s that? Do you have any questions on any of that?
    No? You have any idea why we want to talk to you?
    “Defendant: (Unintelligible.)
    “Zamudio:     You sure? You sure? You don’t have any idea? You sure?
    “Defendant: (Unintelligible.)
    “Zamudio: Did you get in a fight with anybody? What’s that? Okay.
    Well it’s kind of (unintelligible) and what happened. Ok. What’s your—
    what’s your side of what happened?
    “Defendant: (Unintelligible.) I’ll tell that to my lawyer.
    “Zamudio:     Ok.”
    The officers immediately went on to question defendant, eliciting the responses we
    have described.
    At the hearing, Zamudio testified that, after defendant said “I’ll tell that to my
    lawyer,” he and Hawk did not ask him to explain what he meant or whether he was asking
    for a lawyer and instead simply proceeded with questioning. Further, defendant never
    said he did not want to talk to the officers and never said he wanted an attorney and said
    nothing on this topic that does not appear in the transcript.
    The court denied the motion to exclude. It found that defendant’s remark was not
    a clear invocation of his right to counsel.
    At trial, Scott, Tamara, Ronald, Roshena, and Timothy all testified that they did
    not see or remember who did the shooting.
    Scott testified that three males came to the door and there was a fight, but he could
    not remember who any of them were and did not know whether any of them were among
    the people in the courtroom. Scott did not want to testify and said, “I wish there was
    something I could do to get out of it.” He also said, “I wish I could plead the Fifth,” and
    that he was afraid for his family.
    7.
    Scott said he was unarmed and believed each of the three men had a gun. He
    fought one of the three men and won, and then fought another. Then he was shot. He
    believed the shooter was the first man he had fought with because the shooter’s face was
    bleeding. He counted eight shots and knew he had been hit four times. He also knew
    which of the eight shots were the four that hit him.
    Tamara testified that she was at the residence when Scott was shot but did not
    remember the shooting or anything else that happened because she was very drunk. At
    the time of the shooting, she was an alcoholic and drank all day, every day, causing her to
    “black out a lot ….” That day, she had drunk three pints of vodka. She did not remember
    whether her cousins, defendant and Timothy, came to the house. She said, “[I]t was a big
    blur. I was—I don’t—I do not remember. I do not recall. I cannot say—specifically say
    something or anything that happened, because I don’t remember; I was really wasted.”
    She guessed that she might also have been in shock.
    Tamara recalled being taken somewhere by the deputies but did not remember
    giving them a statement. The recording of her statement had been played for her on the
    day she testified, and she said she was “shocked” to hear it. The prosecutor asked her
    point by point whether she had made each of the statements preserved in the recording,
    and Tamara answered each question by saying she did not remember making the
    statements. She said, “You can ask me as many questions like this if you want, because
    that’s going to be the same answer. I don’t remember the whole situation.”
    Tamara did not want to testify. She said she was upset because the last time she
    had to testify, she was five years old and testifying against her grandfather, who had raped
    her. Later, when asked whether she wanted to be testifying against defendant, Tamara
    said, “Of course not.” Her recorded statement incriminating defendant was played for the
    jury.
    Ronald testified that he came to the front of the mobile home after Tamara told
    him there was trouble there. Defendant, Timothy, Scott, Tamara, and Roshena were
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    there, and another man was in the driveway near the street. Some neighbors were
    standing around watching. There had been a fight and defendant had blood on his face.
    Then Ronald heard three to five gunshots, and he ran toward the motor home in the back.
    The shots had different sounds, as if they were coming from more than one gun. Ronald
    saw that Scott had been hit but did not see him getting hit. The gunfire came from
    Ronald’s right side. Timothy could not have been the shooter because he was on
    Ronald’s other side. Ronald denied, however, that he saw defendant with the gun and
    said he did not know whether defendant was the shooter. He told officers that Scott had
    fought with defendant because he saw blood on defendant’s face, but he did not actually
    see the fight, and he did not tell them he saw defendant with a gun or that defendant shot
    Scott. Timothy and the third man were not bleeding. Ronald listened to a recording of
    the interview in which he told Romiti he was sure defendant was the one who shot Scott,
    but he testified that he did not remember saying that and did not know who the shooter
    was.
    Ronald said he was nervous about testifying and did not want to be there. He was
    asked about a conversation he had with Tamara in the hallway of the courthouse before
    she testified. He said she was upset, and he answered yes when asked, “Isn’t it true that
    she specifically told you that she was simply going to get on the stand and say she didn’t
    remember?” The jury heard Romiti’s testimony that Ronald said he saw the shooting
    happen and was sure defendant was the shooter. The recording and transcript of Ronald’s
    statement were not presented to the jury.
    Roshena testified that she came to the front of the mobile home after Tamara
    shouted that defendant, Timothy, and Scott were fighting. Tamara was drunk, but
    Roshena was not aware that she had a drinking problem or that she had “periods of
    blackout” when drunk. In front of the residence, Roshena saw defendant, Timothy, Scott,
    Tamara, and some neighbors. Defendant and Scott were having a fistfight. No one had a
    gun and Roshena never saw any guns at any point. Defendant’s face was bloody.
    9.
    Timothy tried to pull defendant away, and Tamara pushed Timothy. Roshena grabbed
    Tamara around the waist and pulled her away from the fray. As she headed back toward
    the motor home holding Tamara, she heard shots and continued running. She did not see
    who was firing a gun and did not see anyone getting hit by bullets. She was not paying
    attention to defendant or Timothy in the moments just before she heard the shots.
    Roshena laid Tamara down inside the motor home. Roshena had bumped
    Tamara’s ankle on a cement step while carrying her, and Tamara was saying it hurt. Then
    Roshena went back to the front. Everyone was gone except for some neighbors, who
    were still standing in the road, and Scott, who was lying on the porch, wounded.
    When asked how she felt about having to testify, Roshena said, “I’m not happy
    about it. Nervous wreck, actually.” Roshena had been interviewed at the sheriff’s
    department, but no evidence of her statement was presented at trial.
    Timothy testified that he drove defendant to Roshena and Ronald’s residence. He
    was “tweaked out,” i.e., high on methamphetamine, at the time and did not remember why
    they went there. He remembered little about the incident. He claimed that his memory
    about things in general was impeded by a traumatic event that had taken place since the
    shooting: “I don’t remember a lot since my daughter died, and she died in my arms at 17
    years old. I don’t remember a lot of shit that happened before that.”
    Timothy did not recall anyone else being in the car with them, but another car went
    with them. Two or three people were in the other car, one of whom was named James.
    Timothy did not know whether or not defendant had a gun.
    Timothy knocked on the door and a man holding a gun answered. Timothy and the
    man were engaged in “just general conversation” when “[a] fight broke out ….” The
    fight broke out because the man with the gun made “little snide comments” to defendant.
    Defendant made snide comments in return, and the man who answered the door hit
    defendant with either his hand or his gun. Timothy tried to break up the fight. Tamara
    pulled him away. At some point, the fight ended. Defendant’s face was bleeding. Then
    10.
    Timothy heard gunfire. He did not see anyone get hit. He did not see defendant fire a
    gun, and he did not fire a gun himself. He asked defendant what happened, but defendant
    did not answer, except to tell Timothy to get in the car. Then Timothy and defendant left
    in the car. Timothy did not remember whether defendant was holding a gun at that point.
    When asked how he felt about testifying against his brother, Timothy said he was
    subpoenaed and had to be there.
    Timothy remembered calling Zamudio to give a statement but did not “remember
    the whole conversation ….” He listened to the recording of the statement before he
    testified, but did not remember making many of the statements on the recording. He did
    not remember saying he and defendant went to the residence to confront Scott about a
    missing gun. He did not remember saying defendant had a gun and pointed it at him
    when they were getting back in the car. He did not recall telling Zamudio that he asked
    defendant, “‘[W]hat the fuck did you do?’” or that he told defendant, “‘I didn’t come
    down for this shit, man.’” The jury heard Zamudio’s testimony that Timothy did say
    these things. The recording and transcript of Timothy’s statement to Zamudio were not
    presented to the jury.
    Defendant called no witnesses. The jury found him guilty as charged and found
    true the firearm and great-bodily-injury allegations. It also found that the attempted
    murder was committed willfully, deliberately, and with premeditation. Defendant
    admitted he had a prior strike conviction and a prior prison term. The court imposed a
    total indeterminate sentence of 39 years to life on count 1 and a total determinate sentence
    of 35 years 8 months on counts 2 through 4.
    DISCUSSION
    I.     Miranda
    Defendant argues that he clearly invoked his right to counsel when he initially
    responded to police questioning by saying, “I’ll tell that to my lawyer.” He says this
    required that his statement be excluded, and the trial court erred in concluding otherwise.
    11.
    In reviewing a trial court’s disposition of a claim that a statement should have been
    excluded because it was obtained in violation of Miranda, we accept the trial court’s
    findings on any disputed matters of fact if supported by substantial evidence, and we
    review de novo the legal issue of whether the undisputed facts and the facts found by the
    trial court and supported by substantial evidence show that the challenged statement was
    legally obtained. (People v. Gonzalez (2005) 
    34 Cal.4th 1111
    , 1125.) There is no dispute
    here about the words of defendant upon which the alleged invocation of the right to
    counsel is based, or about the circumstances under which those words were spoken, so we
    are left only with the legal question of whether these facts show that defendant’s
    statement was admissible.
    Miranda, of course, held that before conducting a custodial interrogation, police
    must explain to a suspect his or her right to remain silent, to have the assistance of
    counsel, and to have counsel present during questioning. (Miranda, supra, 384 U.S. at
    pp. 469-473.) In Edwards v. Arizona (1981) 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 484-485 (Edwards), the
    Supreme Court added that, when the suspect invokes the right to have counsel present
    during questioning, officers must cease questioning until a lawyer has been provided or
    the suspect reinitiates questioning. Finally, in Davis v. United States (1994) 
    512 U.S. 452
    , 459 (Davis), the court specified that, to trigger the cessation of questioning required
    by Edwards, the suspect must “unambiguously request counsel.” The question presented
    in this case is whether defendant’s remark, “I’ll tell that to my lawyer,” was an
    unambiguous request for counsel.
    At first glance, it might appear that defendant has common sense on his side.
    Immediately after reading defendant his rights, Zamudio asked him for his side of the
    story, and defendant said he would tell it to his lawyer. In his opening brief, defendant
    asks rhetorically, “Isn’t this a clear indication that [defendant] does not want to talk to
    Zamudio, but instead wants to talk to a lawyer? What is ambiguous about this
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    invocation?” It seems fair to assume that the officer could have guessed that defendant
    was invoking his rights or at least could have asked defendant if that was his intention.
    A careful reading of Davis, however, shows that the United States Supreme Court
    believes the Constitution does not require exclusion of confessions on Edwards grounds
    just because an officer could hazard a reasonable guess that a suspect’s remarks mean he
    has a present desire for advice of counsel and wishes not to say more without it, or
    because an officer could easily clear up any ambiguity by asking a follow-up question.
    The court began its analysis in Davis by pointing out that the doctrine of Miranda
    itself is not required by the Constitution, but is instead a protective measure to ensure
    preservation of underlying rights. (Davis, supra, 512 U.S. at pp. 456-457.) The Edwards
    requirement to stop questioning when a suspect invokes his or her rights, likewise, is not
    constitutionally mandated, but is a “‘second layer of prophylaxis’” created by the court.
    (Davis, 
    supra, at p. 458
    .) In the court’s view, it would have been decreeing an expansion
    of an already extensive court-created system of nonmandated protections were it to
    “require law enforcement officers to cease questioning immediately upon the making of
    an ambiguous or equivocal reference to an attorney.” (Id. at p. 459.) A similar expansion
    would have been involved in creating a requirement that if a suspect makes an ambiguous
    reference to an attorney, interrogators must ask clarifying questions. (Id. at pp. 461-462.)
    The court concluded that it was “unwilling to create a third layer of prophylaxis to
    prevent police questioning when the suspect might want a lawyer.” (Id. at p. 462.)
    The court was realistic about the potential of its decision to burden some speakers.
    “We recognize that requiring a clear assertion of the right to counsel might disadvantage
    some suspects who—because of fear, intimidation, lack of linguistic skills, or a variety of
    other reasons—will not clearly articulate their right to counsel although they actually
    want to have a lawyer present.” (Davis, supra, 512 U.S. at p. 460.) But the court was
    unmoved by this fact: “[T]he primary protection afforded suspects subject to custodial
    interrogation is the Miranda warnings themselves.” (Ibid.)
    13.
    A concurring opinion argued that when a suspect makes a comment that could be a
    request for counsel, interrogators should be required to ask for clarification before
    continuing. (Davis, 
    supra,
     512 U.S. at p. 466 (conc. opn. of Souter, J.).) This is what
    actually happened with the defendant in Davis, and the defendant told the interrogators he
    was not asking for a lawyer. (Ibid.) The concurring justices believed that “fairness and
    practicality” supported this approach. (Id. at p. 467.)
    The majority did not agree. In its view, the ambiguity of the defendant’s initial
    remark—“‘Maybe I should talk to a lawyer’”—meant the officers were entitled to ignore
    it. (Davis, supra, 512 U.S. at pp. 455, 462.)
    It appears to us that the point of Davis is to avoid the drastic sanction of excluding
    a defendant’s confession from evidence in cases where any degree of speculation about
    whether the defendant was invoking his rights is involved. It is up to the defendant to be
    clear and direct and not to use oblique language.
    In light of the reasoning of Davis, we cannot say defendant’s remark—“I’ll tell
    that to my lawyer”—was a clear and unambiguous request for an attorney. A reasonable
    hearer could be uncertain whether defendant was asking to see an attorney at that time
    and declaring an unwillingness to talk without one, or was instead only expressing his
    intention of consulting with an attorney at some point. It follows that the officers were
    not required to cease questioning defendant, and exclusion of his incriminating statement
    was not required.
    II.    Leading questions
    The prosecutor asked Tamara a series of leading questions closely tracking her
    statements in the recorded interview. Defense counsel was granted a continuing objection
    to these questions.7 Tamara answered all of them by saying she had no memory of her
    7The continuing objection came near the end of the questioning, but we will
    assume for the sake of argument that the issue has been preserved for appeal.
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    statements and no memory of the events to which the statements referred. Defendant now
    argues that the questions were improper. He further argues that, although the questions
    elicited no incriminating testimony, they were prejudicial because they “essentially
    stat[ed] the prosecutor’s theory of the case ….”
    We review this issue for abuse of discretion. (People v. Cox (1991) 
    53 Cal.3d 618
    ,
    700 [trial court has inherent discretion, as well as statutory discretion under § 1044, to
    control proceedings to ensure efficacious administration of justice], overruled on other
    grounds by People v. Doolin (2009) 
    45 Cal.4th 390
    , 421 & fn. 22; People v. Chenault
    (2014) 
    227 Cal.App.4th 1503
    , 1514 [trial court has broad discretion under Evid. Code,
    § 765, to exercise control over examination of witnesses].) Defendant says we should
    instead apply the de novo standard of review because “arguably” a pure question of law
    or a mixed question of law and fact is involved, but we do not see how anything other
    than an ordinary question of the court’s regulation of the proceedings is at issue.
    As discussed in part III of this opinion, below, Tamara’s denials of the ability to
    recall were implicitly inconsistent with her recorded statements. The trial court had
    discretion to allow leading questions to lay a foundation for the admission of prior
    inconsistent statements. (People v. Collins (2010) 
    49 Cal.4th 175
    , 215.) It did not abuse
    its discretion in allowing this here.
    Further, “[l]eading questions are permitted on direct examination ‘to the extent
    necessary to stimulate or revive [the witness’s] recollection.’” (People v. Collins, 
    supra,
    49 Cal.4th at p. 215.) Defendant argues that there was no justification for continuing to
    ask leading questions after Tamara first stated that she had no recollection at all, but we
    do not agree. Tamara’s claim of a total lack of recollection contrasted so sharply with her
    earlier detailed statement that the court was justified in allowing the prosecutor’s insistent
    efforts to press for some opening in her wall of denials.
    Finally, any error was harmless. Defendant’s only theory of prejudice from the
    leading questions is that they gave the prosecutor an opportunity to state his theory of the
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    case. There was no shortage of other opportunities for the prosecutor to do this, however.
    There is no reasonable probability that the jury would have reached a different verdict if it
    had not heard these questions. To the extent that defendant’s theory of prejudice could
    also be that the prosecutor was enabled to tell the jury the substance of Tamara’s recorded
    statements, and that those statements were inadmissible hearsay, we hold that the
    statements were admissible, as discussed in part III below.
    III.   Prior inconsistent statements
    Defendant argues that Tamara’s recorded interview was inadmissible hearsay. The
    People maintain that it was admissible under the hearsay exception for prior inconsistent
    statements. (Evid. Code, §§ 770, 1235.) Defendant avers that, as mere denials of
    recollection, Tamara’s testimony was not inconsistent with her statements in the
    interview, so the exception did not apply.
    As a threshold matter, defendant never objected to the admission of Tamara’s
    police interview, so the issue is forfeited on appeal. (People v. Saunders (1993) 
    5 Cal.4th 580
    , 590; Doers v. Golden Gate Bridge etc. Dist. (1979) 
    23 Cal.3d 180
    , 184-185, fn. 1.)
    As we will explain, defendant’s argument would be without merit even if it were not
    forfeited.
    Evidence Code section 1235 provides that a prior statement is not made
    inadmissible by the hearsay rule if it is inconsistent with the speaker’s testimony in court
    and is offered in compliance with Evidence Code section 770. Evidence Code
    section 770 provides that a prior inconsistent hearsay statement is admissible only if the
    witness has been given an opportunity to explain or deny the statement or has not been
    excused from testifying further.
    Our Supreme Court has held that a witness’s testimony that he or she does not
    remember an event is “[n]ormally” not inconsistent with a prior statement describing the
    event. (People v. Johnson (1992) 
    3 Cal.4th 1183
    , 1219.) There is an implied
    inconsistency, however, if the claimed lack of memory is a “deliberate evasion.” (Ibid.)
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    “As long as there is a reasonable basis in the record for concluding that the witness’s ‘I
    don’t remember’ statements are evasive and untruthful, admission of his or her prior
    statements is proper.” (Ibid.)
    Tamara’s recorded interview would, of course, be inadmissible under the hearsay
    rule unless there is an applicable exception. She had ample opportunity to explain or
    deny her statements in the interview, so the only question, as far as the prior-inconsistent-
    statement exception is concerned, is whether her claimed lack of memory was untrue. We
    conclude there is a reasonable basis in the record for finding it was. Tamara’s prior
    statements were detailed and precise, while her testimony at trial was a complete blank.
    Her claimed lack of memory extended not only to witnessing the shooting, but also to
    giving her statement to the officers. She admitted in court that she had a general aversion
    to testifying and a specific disinclination to testify against defendant. Her testimony was
    part of a pattern in which all the eyewitnesses claimed not to know who fired the gun and,
    in so claiming, either conceded a disinclination to testify against defendant, or disavowed
    prior statements, or both. Tamara attributed her lack of memory to a drinking problem
    that caused her to black out, but her mother was not aware that Tamara, though drunk that
    day, had a drinking problem. There is a reasonable basis for concluding that Tamara was
    deliberately evading the questions the prosecutor asked.
    IV.    Confrontation clause
    Defendant argues that the admission of Tamara’s police interview also violated his
    rights under the confrontation clause of the Sixth Amendment.
    Defendant relies on Crawford v. Washington (2004) 
    541 U.S. 36
     (Crawford).
    Crawford held that admission of hearsay that is testimonial in character violates the
    confrontation clause even if it is admissible under state evidence rules, unless the
    declarant either is subject to cross-examination at trial or is unavailable for trial and there
    was a prior opportunity for cross-examination. (Id. at pp. 36, 59 & fn. 9; 61-62, 68.)
    Statements elicited during police interrogations are testimonial. (Id. at p. 52.)
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    Tamara testified at trial, and defense counsel cross-examined her. Defendant
    argues, however, that Tamara was not genuinely subject to cross-examination because she
    did not remember making the hearsay statements or witnessing the underlying events and
    therefore could neither explain nor deny what she said. For this reason, defendant
    maintains, admission of the police interview violated the confrontation clause. He claims
    the lack of genuine cross-examination also prevented him from presenting his defense and
    therefore denied him due process of law.
    As we have mentioned, defendant did not object to the admission of Tamara’s
    recorded interview, so the issue is forfeited on appeal. Further, defendant’s argument is
    without merit, as we will explain.
    Defendant cites no authority for the view that, for purposes of Crawford and due
    process, a witness’s claimed inability to recall events and prior statements about them
    means cross-examination of the witness is not genuine. Crawford is not based on any
    policy that would support shielding a defendant from available witnesses’ prior
    statements any time those witnesses claim not to remember what they witnessed or said.
    The Crawford opinion is instead based on a historical practice of excluding testimonial
    hearsay except when cross-examination is possible. (Crawford, 
    supra,
     541 U.S. at
    pp. 42-56.) Defendant cites nothing in Crawford or elsewhere suggesting that this
    historical practice included a general rejection of the adequacy of cross-examination of
    allegedly forgetful witnesses.
    As there is nothing in Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in Crawford to the
    contrary, the issue is controlled by Justice Scalia’s earlier majority opinion in United
    States v. Owens (1988) 
    484 U.S. 554
     (Owens). Owens involved a witness who identified
    the defendant to the police as the person who beat him with a metal pipe and then, before
    trial, lost his memory of the attack as a result of his injuries. (Id. at pp. 555-556.) The
    Supreme Court rejected the defendant’s argument that, although the witness was cross-
    examined at trial, the witness’s forgetfulness denied the defendant his right of
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    confrontation and made erroneous the admission of evidence of the identification:
    “‘[T]he Confrontation Clause guarantees only “an opportunity for effective cross-
    examination, not cross-examination that is effective in whatever way, and to whatever
    extent, the defense might wish.”’” (Id. at p. 559.) The presence of the witness at trial for
    cross-examination is enough: “It is sufficient that the defendant has the opportunity to
    bring out such matters as the witness’ bias, his lack of care and attentiveness, his poor
    eyesight, and even … the very fact that he has a bad memory.” (Ibid.) These means of
    impugning the prior statement “will of course not always achieve success, but successful
    cross-examination is not the constitutional guarantee.” (Id. at p. 560.) Under Owens, the
    cross-examination of Tamara available to the defense was adequate for confrontation-
    clause purposes.
    The Court of Appeal anticipated Owens in People v. O’Quinn (1980) 
    109 Cal.App.3d 219
    , 225-226, and followed Owens in People v. Perez (2000) 
    82 Cal.App.4th 760
    , 764-765. Both cases rejected the defendants’ argument that a witness’s claimed
    forgetfulness vitiated cross-examination of the witness and rendered a prior inconsistent
    statement inadmissible. Defendant maintains that these cases are distinguishable because
    in Perez there was evidence that the witness decided to lie to avoid retribution, and in
    O’Quinn the trial court made a finding that the witness was deliberately evasive; there
    were no such facts or findings about Tamara. This distinction, however, does not affect
    the confrontation-clause analysis. In Owens the witness lost his memory because of a
    head injury. There is no mention in the opinion of any suggestion that he was faking.
    The court certainly did not hold that the confrontation clause allows admission of
    forgetful witnesses’ prior inconsistent statements only if the forgetfulness is feigned.
    Defendant cites Davis v. Alaska (1974) 
    415 U.S. 308
     and Douglas v. Alabama
    (1965) 
    380 U.S. 415
    , but neither case involves a forgetful witness. In Davis v. Alaska,
    the confidentiality of juvenile proceedings prevented a witness from being impeached by
    his juvenile probationary status on cross-examination. In Douglas, the witness could not
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    be cross-examined because he invoked his right against self-incrimination after being
    questioned in detail about a confession in which he inculpated the defendant. In both
    cases, the Supreme Court held that the defendants were denied the right of confrontation
    because the witnesses could not actually be cross-examined on matters of importance to
    the defense. (Davis v. Alaska, supra, at pp. 315-318; Douglas, 
    supra, at pp. 419-420
    .)
    These cases are inapplicable to the forgetful-witness situation, in which the witness is
    actually cross-examined on the pertinent matters, and which is covered by the Supreme
    Court’s later decision in Owens.
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed.
    _____________________
    Oliver, J.*
    WE CONCUR:
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    Cornell, Acting P.J.
    _____________________
    Poochigian, J.
    *Judge  of the Superior Court of Fresno County, assigned by the Chief Justice
    pursuant to article VI, section 6 of the California Constitution.
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