People v. Carramusa CA4/1 ( 2021 )


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  • Filed 4/22/21 P. v. Carramusa CA4/1
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    COURT OF APPEAL, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION ONE
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    THE PEOPLE,                                                                  D076632
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    v.                                                                 (Super. Ct. No. SCD270824)
    CHRISTOPHER CARRAMUSA,
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Diego County,
    Runston G. Maino, Judge. Reversed and remanded with directions.
    Alex Coolman, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for
    Defendant and Appellant.
    Xavier Becerra, Attorney General, Lance E. Winters, Chief Assistant
    Attorney General, Julie L. Garland, Assistant Attorney General, Charles C.
    Ragland and Adrian R. Contreras, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff
    and Respondent.
    Christopher Carramusa pled guilty to one count of first degree burglary
    (Pen. Code, § 459),1 and admitted a prior strike under the Three Strikes law
    (§§ 667, subd. (b)-(i), 668, 1170.12), a prior serious felony (§§ 667, subd. (a)(1),
    668, 1192.7, subd. (c)), and four prison priors (§§ 667.5, subd. (b), 668). The
    plea agreement left the determination of Carramusa’s sentence to the
    discretion of the trial court. The trial court declined to strike Carramusa’s
    prior strike, and it sentenced Carramusa to an upper-term sentence of 17
    years in prison.
    On March 5, 2019, we issued an opinion in Carramusa’s first appeal in
    this matter. (People v. Carramusa (Mar. 5, 2019, D073484).) Due to the post-
    sentencing change in law enacted by Senate Bill No. 1393 (Stats. 2018,
    ch. 1013, §§ 1-2), we remanded to the trial court to decide whether to exercise
    its discretion to strike the five-year enhancement for Carramusa’s prior
    serious felony (§ 667, subd. (a)(1)).
    On the same day, we issued an order summarily denying Carramusa’s
    petition for writ of habeas corpus, which alleged ineffective assistance of
    counsel. (In re Carramusa (Mar. 5, 2019, D074746).) Carramusa premised
    his habeas petition on the fact that between the date of Carramusa’s guilty
    plea on December 12, 2017, and his sentencing on January 23, 2018, our
    Supreme Court decided People v. Gallardo (2017) 
    4 Cal.5th 120
     (Gallardo).
    The habeas petition argued that defense counsel should have advised
    Carramusa to withdraw his guilty plea because, under Gallardo, the People
    would no longer be able to prove that Carramusa incurred a prior strike and
    a prior serious felony. Both the prior strike and prior serious felony were
    1     All further statutory references are to the Penal Code unless otherwise
    noted.
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    based on Carramusa’s guilty plea, in 1994, to the offense of battery with
    serious bodily injury. (§ 243, subd. (d).)
    Our order summarily denying the habeas petition set forth two grounds
    for our conclusion that Carramusa had not made a prima facie case for relief.
    First, we observed that the habeas petition was not ripe because, on remand
    from Carramusa’s appeal, defense counsel “may, before judgment, attempt to
    take further action with respect to Carramusa’s plea.” Second, we stated
    that, as we interpreted Gallardo, even if defense counsel had sought to
    withdraw Carramusa’s guilty plea so that the People would be required to
    prove the strike and the serious felony, the People would have been able to
    prove those enhancements by relying on the preliminary hearing transcript
    from Carramusa’s 1994 battery prosecution.2 We premised our conclusion on
    the documents presented by the People at the sentencing hearing, which we
    described as showing that “Carramusa’s guilty plea for the 1994 battery
    conviction expressly incorporated the preliminary hearing transcript.”
    On remand, the trial court made two rulings. First, it denied
    Carramusa’s request, pursuant to People v. Marsden (1970) 
    2 Cal.3d 118
    (Marsden), to substitute appointed counsel. Second, it declined to exercise its
    discretion to strike the five-year enhancement for Carramusa’s prior serious
    felony. During the proceedings on remand, defense counsel did not attempt
    to withdraw Carramusa’s guilty plea.
    In this appeal, Carramusa makes two arguments. First, Carramusa
    contends that defense counsel was ineffective because, on remand, he did not
    advise Carramusa to bring a motion to withdraw his guilty plea in light of
    2      Carramusa requests that we take judicial notice of the habeas petition
    filed in case No. D074746, as well as our March 5, 2019 summary denial of
    that petition. We grant the request. (Evid. Code, § 452, subd. (d).)
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    Gallardo, which, if granted, would have required the People to prove that
    Carramusa’s 1994 battery conviction qualified as a strike and prior serious
    felony. Second, Carramusa argues that during the Marsden hearing, the trial
    court improperly denied his request to substitute appointed counsel.3
    We conclude that because the record shows that in conducting the
    Marsden hearing, the trial court was not aware of the items that Carramusa
    was attempting to rely upon to support his request for substitute appointed
    counsel, Carramusa did not receive a full and adequate Marsden hearing.
    Accordingly, we reverse the judgment and remand for a renewed Marsden
    hearing. Following the renewed Marsden hearing, and regardless of its
    outcome, Carramusa may file a motion to withdraw his guilty plea if he
    chooses to do so. If no such motion is filed, or if the motion is denied, the trial
    court shall reinstate the judgment.
    I.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    A.    Carramusa’s Guilty Plea and Sentencing
    According to the probation officer’s report, a house was burglarized
    during the afternoon of November 29, 2016, and over $80,000 in jewelry was
    taken.4 Police eventually identified Carramusa as a suspect based on
    security camera footage and telephone records.
    3      Carramusa has also filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus (Case
    No. D077952), in which he argues that defense counsel was ineffective for
    failing to advise him to withdraw his guilty plea in light of Gallardo.
    Simultaneously with this opinion, we are issuing an order denying the
    habeas petition on the ground that it is not ripe in light of our disposition of
    this appeal.
    4     Because Carramusa pled guilty, we based our recitation of the facts on
    the probation officer’s report.
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    An amended information charged Carramusa with one count of first
    degree burglary of an inhabited dwelling. (§§ 459, 460, subd. (a).) The
    information also alleged that Carramusa incurred numerous probation-denial
    prior felony convictions (§ 1203, subd. (e)(4)), four prior prison terms
    (§§ 667.5, subd. (b), 668), a prior serious felony (§§ 667, subd. (a)(1), 668,
    1192.7, subd. (c)), and a prior strike (§§ 667, subds. (b)-(i), 668, 1170.12).
    On December 12, 2017, Carramusa pled guilty and made admissions to
    everything that was alleged in the amended information: burglary of an
    inhabited dwelling, the probation-denial prior felony convictions (§ 1203,
    subd. (e)(4)), four prior prison terms (§§ 667.5, subd. (b), 668), a prior serious
    felony (§§ 667, subd. (a)(1), 668, 1192.7, subd. (c)), and a prior strike (§§ 667,
    subds. (b)-(i), 668, 1170.12). The plea agreement contained no deal regarding
    Carramusa’s sentence.
    According to the amended information, both the prior strike and the
    prior serious felony were based on Carramusa’s 1994 conviction for battery
    with serious bodily injury. (§ 243, subd. (d).) At the sentencing hearing, the
    trial court expressed concern over whether there was a factual basis for
    Carramusa’s admission that he incurred a prior strike and prior serious
    felony. The trial court’s concern arose because Carramusa’s 1994 conviction
    for battery with serious bodily injury would qualify as a strike and serious
    felony only if it was a “felony in which the defendant personally inflict[ed]
    great bodily injury on any person, other than an accomplice.” (§ 1192.7,
    subd. (c)(8).)5 Thus, a conviction for battery with serious bodily injury would
    5      A strike under the Three Strikes law includes a defendant’s conviction
    for a “serious felony” as that term is defined in section 1192.7, subdivision (c).
    (§ 667, subd. (d)(1).) The same definition of “serious felony” is used to
    determine whether a defendant has incurred a prior serious felony for the
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    only qualify as a “serious felony” for the purpose of the Three Strikes law or
    the five-year enhancement in section 667, subdivision (a)(1), if it was
    “personally inflicted” by Carramusa and the victim was not an accomplice.6
    The prosecutor addressed the trial court’s concerns by presenting
    documentation from the 1994 battery prosecution and giving the following
    explanation:
    “The last time that we appeared for the originally scheduled
    sentencing date Your Honor expressed some concern about the
    nature of Mr. Carramusa’s 1994 conviction. As a result I
    contacted the Riverside County records department.
    purpose of the five-year enhancement in section 667, subdivision (a)(1).
    (§ 667, subd. (a)(4).) As relevant here, section 1192.7, subdivision (c)(8)
    defines a serious felony as “any felony in which the defendant personally
    inflicts great bodily injury on any person, other than an accomplice.”
    Battery is defined as “any willful and unlawful use of force or violence
    upon the person of another” (§ 242), and section 243, subdivision (d) sets forth
    the punishment that applies when “a battery is committed against any
    person and serious bodily injury is inflicted on the person.” (§ 243, subd. (d).)
    As it is possible to be convicted of battery on a theory of aiding and abetting
    (§ 31), and because it is possible to commit battery on an accomplice, a person
    could be convicted of battery with serious bodily injury without being
    convicted of a “felony in which the defendant personally inflicts great bodily
    injury on any person, other than an accomplice.” (§ 1192.7, subd. (c)(8).)
    6       In arguing that counsel was ineffective, Carramusa has not expressly
    raised the issue of whether a conviction for a battery causing “serious bodily
    injury” is sufficient to establish a prior conviction in which the defendant
    inflicted “great bodily injury” as that term is used in section 1192.7,
    subdivision (c)(8). We therefore need not, and do not, consider the issue.
    (See People v. Santana (2013) 
    56 Cal.4th 999
    , 1008-1009 [“We recognize that
    the terms ‘serious bodily injury’ and ‘great bodily injury’ have been described
    as ‘ “ ‘essential[ly] equivalent’ ” ’ . . . and as having ‘substantially the same
    meaning’ . . . However, the terms in fact ‘have separate and distinct
    statutory definitions.’ . . . This distinction may make a difference when
    evaluating jury instructions that provide different definitions for the two
    terms,” citations omitted].)
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    Unfortunately much of the original record had been purged in
    light of the age of the conviction; however, they were able to
    provide a certified copy of the minute order from the time of Mr.
    Carramusa’s original plea in 1994. That is now marked as court’s
    Exhibit One. On page five of that document it specifically states
    that he pled to a violation of Penal Code section 243(d) and that
    the factual basis was based on the preliminary hearing
    transcript. After speaking with the Riverside County DA’s office
    they were able to locate a certified copy of the original
    preliminary hearing transcript. I provided that for defense
    counsel, and I am now admitting it as court’s Exhibit Two. Based
    on our review of the transcript, the transcript does clearly
    establish that Mr. Carramusa personally inflicted great bodily
    injury, not on an accomplice, but rather on another and,
    therefore, it does constitute a strike. I will be admitting both of
    those as court’s Exhibits One and Two.”7
    On January 23, 2018, the trial court denied Carramusa’s motion to
    strike his prior strike, and it sentenced Carramusa to a prison term of 17
    years. The 17-year term was based on the upper term of six years for the
    burglary, doubled to 12 years based on Carramusa’s prior strike, plus five
    years for the prior serious felony. The trial court exercised its discretion to
    strike the four one-year enhancements for Carramusa’s prior prison terms.
    B.    Carramusa’s First Appeal and Habeas Petition
    Carramusa appealed from the judgment. He argued that the trial court
    abused its discretion in declining to strike his prior strike and that, due to a
    change in the law after he was sentenced (Sen. Bill No. 1393, Stats. 2018,
    7     We have reviewed both of the exhibits presented by the prosecutor.
    The exhibits contain neither Carramusa’s written plea agreement for the
    1994 conviction nor the transcript from the 1994 plea hearing. The
    prosecutor’s representation that “the factual basis was based on the
    preliminary hearing,” is premised on court minutes from 1994 stating
    “Counsel stipulate: FACTUAL BASIS TAKEN FROM PRELIM HRG
    TRANSCRIPT.”
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    ch. 1013, §§ 1-2), we should remand this matter for the trial court to decide
    whether to exercise its discretion to strike the five-year enhancement for
    Carramusa’s prior serious felony. We reversed the judgment for the purpose
    of remanding to the trial court with directions that it decide whether to
    exercise its discretion to strike the five-year enhancement for Carramusa’s
    prior serious felony conviction. (People v. Carramusa (Mar. 5, 2019,
    D073484).)
    On the same day that we issued our opinion on Carramusa’s appeal, we
    also issued an order summarily denying Carramusa’s petition for habeas
    corpus. (In re Carramusa (Mar. 5, 2019, D074746).) Carramusa’s habeas
    petition argued that defense counsel, Deputy Public Defender Warren Den,
    had provided ineffective assistance because he did not advise Carramusa to
    withdraw his guilty plea prior to sentencing based on our Supreme Court’s
    opinion in Gallardo, supra, 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    .
    Gallardo was issued nine days after Carramusa’s guilty plea. In
    Gallardo our Supreme Court significantly limited the materials that a trial
    court could consult in determining the nature of a prior conviction consistent
    with the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution, as interpreted
    in Apprendi v. New Jersey (2000) 
    530 U.S. 466
    , 490. As Gallardo explained,
    “we now hold that a court considering whether to impose an increased
    sentence based on a prior qualifying conviction may not determine the
    ‘nature or basis’ of the prior conviction based on its independent conclusions
    about what facts or conduct ‘realistically’ supported the conviction.
    [Citation.] That inquiry invades the jury’s province by permitting the court
    to make disputed findings about ‘what a trial showed, or a plea proceeding
    revealed, about the defendant’s underlying conduct.’ [Citation.] The court’s
    role is, rather, limited to identifying those facts that were established by
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    virtue of the conviction itself—that is, facts the jury was necessarily required
    to find to render a guilty verdict, or that the defendant admitted as the
    factual basis for a guilty plea.” (Gallardo, supra, 4 Cal.5th at p. 136.) Thus,
    had the trial court been required to apply Gallardo when deciding whether
    Carramusa’s 1994 battery conviction qualified as a serious felony, it would
    have been limited to the “facts . . . [Carramusa] admitted as the factual basis
    for [the 1994] guilty plea.” (Ibid.)
    In his habeas petition, Carramusa argued that the documentation
    relating to his 1994 conviction that the trial court referenced at the December
    12, 2017 plea hearing did not satisfy the strict requirements of Gallardo
    because Carramusa, in 1994, did not admit the facts that made the battery a
    serious felony, namely that he personally inflicted great bodily injury and the
    victim was not an accomplice. Based on that premise, the habeas petition
    argued that “[r]easonable counsel would have moved to withdraw petitioner’s
    admission that his prior conviction for battery was a serious felony after the
    California Supreme Court issued Gallardo, 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    .” As the petition
    argued, “trial counsel did not . . . explain to [Carramusa] he could move to
    withdraw his admission based on Gallardo at sentencing. . . . At petitioner’s
    sentencing hearing, trial counsel neither brought Gallardo to the trial court’s
    attention nor moved to withdraw petitioner’s admission. . . . As such, trial
    counsel’s assistance was ineffective and subjected appellant to an enhanced
    sentence no longer valid at law.” As the petition pointed out, “Had trial
    counsel moved to withdraw petitioner’s admission and the trial court properly
    found the facts petitioner necessarily admitted in 1994 fall short of
    establishing his battery was serious, the strictest sentence petitioner could
    have received for this case would have been 10 years (i.e., the upper term of
    six years for first degree burglary plus an additional year for each of
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    appellant’s prison priors), which is a significantly lower sentence than 17
    plus years he received below.”8
    Our order summarily denying Carramusa’s habeas petition set forth
    two grounds for the denial. First, we observed that because a motion to
    withdraw a guilty plea may be made at any time before judgment (§ 1018),
    “the habeas corpus petition alleging ineffective assistance of counsel is not
    yet ripe, as defense counsel may, before judgment, attempt to take further
    action with respect to Carramusa’s plea.” Second, we explained that
    Carramusa had not established a prima facie case for relief because it
    appeared that even under Gallardo, the trial court would be able to refer to
    the 1994 preliminary hearing transcript to determine the factual basis for the
    1994 battery conviction. In so doing, we characterized Gallardo as holding
    that “when the prior conviction at issue involved a guilty plea in which the
    defendant expressly incorporated the preliminary hearing transcript as the
    factual basis for the guilty plea, the trial court was permitted to look to that
    8      We note the Legislature amended section 667.5, subdivision (b),
    effective January 1, 2020, to restrict the category of offenses that give rise to
    a one-year enhancement for a prior prison term. (Stats. 2019, ch. 590, § 1.)
    Thus, under current law, Carramusa is eligible for a one-year enhancement
    only if the prior prison term was based on a “sexually violent offense.”
    (§ 667.5, subd. (b).) In light of Carramusa’s criminal history, as identified in
    the amended information and the probation officer’s report, it appears that
    only one of Carramusa’s four prison priors (from a 2001 conviction for
    violations of §§ 288a, subd. (b)(2) and 288, subd. (c)(1)) may have been based
    on a sexually violent offense. (§§ 667.5, subd. (b), 6600, subd. (b).)
    Accordingly, if Carramusa was granted leave to withdraw his guilty plea and
    the People were unable to prove that the 1994 battery conviction was a prior
    strike and a prior serious felony, Carramusa would be eligible for a total
    prison sentence of no more than seven years. That seven-year sentence
    would be based on a six-year upper-term sentence for the burglary conviction
    and a one-year enhancement for the 2001 prison prior.
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    preliminary hearing transcript to establish the nature of the conviction.”
    Next, we stated that “according to documents contained in the record and
    submitted to the trial court, Carramusa’s guilty plea for the 1994 battery
    conviction expressly incorporated the preliminary hearing transcript.” We
    therefore concluded that “under Gallardo, if the People were required to
    prove that the 1994 battery conviction was a ‘felony in which the defendant
    personally inflict[ed] great bodily injury on any person, other than an
    accomplice’ (§ 1192.7, subd. (c)(8)), they would be able to do so based on the
    preliminary hearing transcript, which shows that Carramusa personally
    inflicted the injury and that the victim was not an accomplice.”9
    C.    Proceedings After Remand
    On March 11, 2019, following our opinion remanding this matter to the
    superior court, the same deputy public defender, Mr. Den, was reappointed as
    counsel for Carramusa.
    Shortly thereafter, Carramusa sent correspondence to the trial court, in
    which he asked for substitute appointed counsel. Specifically, Carramusa
    sent two letters, both of which are dated March 31, 2019, and were file-
    stamped by the superior court on May 14, 2019.
    One of the letters is handwritten. The other is typewritten. The
    typewritten letter reproduces some, but not all, of the content of the
    handwritten letter.10 The handwritten letter states as follows:
    9      Carramusa’s appellate counsel served Mr. Den with Carramusa’s
    habeas petition when it was filed in 2018. However, this court did not serve
    Mr. Den with the March 5, 2019 order summarily denying the habeas
    petition.
    10     Carramusa’s typewritten letter set forth the following grounds for
    conflict with defense counsel: “1. Warren Den failed to withdraw my plea of
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    “I would like to respectfully request that the Court assign
    me new counsel due to a serious conflict with my counsel of
    record (Mr. Den).
    “The conflict reasons being:
    “1) Mr. Den failed to withdraw my plea of ‘guilty’ after it
    was decided that this Court would not accept the plea deal
    offered to me by the prosecutor of record, and again after the
    Calif. Supr. Court issued a decision on Peo. v. G[*] (2017) 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    .
    “2) Because Mr. Den failed to cooperated [sic] with my
    appeal attorney . . . after successive attempts on her part (calls,
    letters and emails) to contact him. Under Calif. Bar rule
    requiring cooperation: State Bar Formal Opinion # 1992-127.
    “I would like to thank the court for its consideration of this
    matter and would respectfully request a ruling on this issue prior
    to my appearance before the Court for Appeal Opinion #D073484,
    so that I may confer with said counsel.”11
    The trial court received our remittitur on May 9, 2019, and held a
    hearing on May 21, 2019, at which Carramusa was not present. The minute
    order from that hearing indicates that an order to produce Carramusa from
    prison would be issued, and it stated “[d]efendant’s request for new counsel to
    be addressed at [the] next hearing.”
    guilty after it was decided that this court would not accept the plea deal
    offered to me by the Prosecutor of record. [¶] 2. Mr. Den failed to cooperate
    with my appeal attorney . . . after numerous attempts on her part (calls,
    letters and emails) all ignored.”
    11    The bracketed asterisk in the letter indicates where the text appears to
    have been cut off at the margin when the letter was copied. Based on the
    case citation provided, there is no doubt that the letter refers to People v.
    Gallardo (2017) 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    .
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    At the next hearing on July 9, 2019, the trial court conducted a
    Marsden hearing with Carramusa and Mr. Den in attendance. The trial
    court began the Marsden hearing by asking Carramusa to state “what you
    think has gone wrong between you and your attorney that makes you think
    he can’t properly represent you.” The trial court advised Carramusa,
    however, that even if counsel “may not have a bedside manner that you like,”
    that “[d]oesn’t mean that they’re incompetent.” The following discussion then
    took place:
    “[CARRAMUSA]: I don’t think he’s incompetent, sir. It was just
    my appellate attorney advised me to ask him to step down
    because he didn’t call her back via e-mail. Any letters that she
    sent to him, he never responded to. So she said that if I could get
    new counsel because he was—if he didn’t do his job. This is the
    reasons that she gave me because I just didn’t know right
    offhand.
    “THE COURT: Thanks. Okay. Yes, I have read the Court of
    Appeal briefs. I don’t remember what they said, but I do
    remember it was the actual decision by the Court of Appeal. All
    right.
    “[CARRAMUSA]: I couldn’t remember completely either. On top
    of it, I’m already nervous as it is. It’s hard to speak by itself.
    “THE COURT: I take it your main complaint against your
    attorney here is that when this case went up on appeal, he didn’t
    properly communicate with your appellate attorney; is that right?
    “[CARRAMUSA]: Yes, Your Honor.
    “THE COURT: Okay. I’m just wondering two things[.] Number
    one, how that would have affected [appellate counsel]. Do you
    have anything from her saying that she thinks that because Mr.
    Den didn’t communicate with her, that caused a problem with the
    Court of Appeal?
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    “[CARRAMUSA]: It was—I think it's right there. There’s a
    letter from my wife that the deputies handed to you. That was
    the reason being why she suggested for me to seek new counsel.
    “THE COURT: Very good. Let me hear from counsel and see if
    you know anything about this.”12
    When the trial court turned to Mr. Den for comment, Mr. Den’s
    comments indicate that he believed Carramusa was dissatisfied with him
    because he did not receive any leniency from the trial court during
    sentencing, even though Carramusa pled guilty and admitted all of the
    allegations in the amended information. Mr. Den explained, “due to the
    outcome of the case, it did affect me professionally and personally. I had to
    sort of step back and sort of wonder and question my own professional
    judgment in how the ultimate outcome of the case was.” Mr. Den stated, “I
    did speak with Mr. Carramusa yesterday, and I explained to him what—how
    I was feeling after the sentencing date. And I explained to him, and I also
    apologized to him.”
    The trial court stated, “You know, I’ve read over the Court of Appeal
    opinion which was unpublished which sustained the conviction and the
    sentence. I didn’t see anything in there that indicated to me that there was
    even a hint of incompetence of counsel. I know it’s difficult for everyone to
    judge their own case. Did you see anything in that opinion, or do you know
    12     Appellate counsel made a request to augment the appellate record with
    the “letter that is referred to in the Marsden transcript” “detailing the
    reasons why new counsel should be appointed.” We granted the motion to
    augment, directing the superior court to transmit “the letter referenced
    during the hearing held pursuant to People v. Marsden (1970) 
    2 Cal.3d 118
    .”
    No such letter was transmitted from the superior court. We accordingly infer
    that no such document is contained in the superior court file.
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    anything that would lead you to think the Court of Appeal was thinking
    along those lines?” Mr. Den did not bring the allegation of ineffective
    assistance of counsel in the habeas petition to the trial court’s attention.
    Instead, he replied, “Anytime the attorney gets it wrong, that's always time
    for a reflection and contemplation about your own practice, but I did the best
    that I could at the time.”
    The trial court and Mr. Den then held the following discussion, based
    on their assumption that Carramusa’s dissatisfaction with Mr. Den’s
    representation was based on the fact that Carramusa received a lengthier
    sentence than he expected when he entered his guilty plea:
    “THE COURT: Yeah. I think one of the big issues here was the
    prosecutor thought this was an 11-year case.
    “MR. DEN: Correct.
    “THE COURT: After I looked at everything, even though it was a
    plea, and I give great consideration to an early plea, I made it 17
    years.
    “MR. DEN: Usually when I do get it wrong, I really am not
    wrong by that kind of amount. So it was surprising to me, but
    obviously I respect the Court’s decision.
    “THE COURT: Even if it’s wrong, I made it.”
    Carramusa interjected to explain that when he entered his guilty plea,
    he understood based on a “miscommunication” with Mr. Den that he was
    “signing for 11, no more than 11,” that is, a total sentence of no more than 11
    years. Carramusa stated, “When that hit us the way it did, it was a big blow.
    I didn’t really understand it. So at the time they put the appeal in and
    everything, I was just hoping to God I could come back and do the best I can
    with whatever.”
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    The trial court then explained that after reviewing the plea agreement
    and the transcript from the sentencing hearing, it was satisfied “that I made
    it clear there was no promise to you that I was thinking along certain lines. I
    know that there was just no promise.” The trial court denied Carramusa’s
    Marsden motion with the following statement: “Mr. Carramusa, I’m going to
    deny the Marsden. I think your attorney has done a good job in representing
    you both at the sentencing, and the Court of Appeal decision indicates to me
    that there was nothing that he did that in any way injured you at the Court
    of Appeal. The fact that maybe he didn’t communicate as well as he should
    have with the Court of Appeal attorney, I don’t think that’s all that
    important. The reasons why they’re not all that important is when a case
    goes up on appeal, you just look at a written record. The thoughts and
    processes aren’t part of the Court of Appeal.”
    Immediately after denying the Marsden motion, the trial court opened
    the courtroom to the public and proceeded to consider whether to exercise its
    discretion to strike the five-year enhancement for Carramusa’s prior serious
    felony. (§ 667, subd. (a)(1).) Mr. Den made no mention of a possible motion
    to withdraw Carramusa’s guilty plea to take advantage of the standards for
    proving a prior conviction now set forth in Gallardo. The trial court declined
    to exercise its discretion to strike the five-year enhancement for Carramusa’s
    prior serious felony, and it reinstated Carramusa’s 17-year sentence.
    After Mr. Den inadvertently failed to file a timely notice of appeal, we
    granted Carramusa’s request for a constructive notice of appeal.
    II.
    DISCUSSION
    Carramusa presents two arguments in this appeal. First, he contends
    that the trial court improperly denied his Marsden motion. Second, he
    contends that he received ineffective assistance of counsel because Mr. Den
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    did not attempt, on remand, to file a motion to withdraw Carramusa’s guilty
    plea so that he could take advantage of the new requirements for establishing
    a prior conviction as set forth in Gallardo, supra, 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    . We turn first
    to the Marsden motion.
    A.    The Failure to Provide Carramusa With a Full and Adequate Marsden
    Hearing Requires Reversal
    1.     Applicable Legal Principles
    “ ‘When a defendant seeks substitution of appointed counsel pursuant
    to People v. Marsden, supra, 
    2 Cal.3d 118
    , “the trial court must permit the
    defendant to explain the basis of his contention and to relate specific
    instances of inadequate performance. A defendant is entitled to relief if the
    record clearly shows that the appointed counsel is not providing adequate
    representation or that defendant and counsel have become embroiled in such
    an irreconcilable conflict that ineffective representation is likely to result.” ’
    [Citation.] ‘A trial court should grant a defendant’s Marsden motion only
    when the defendant has made “a substantial showing that failure to order
    substitution is likely to result in constitutionally inadequate
    representation.” ’ [Citation.] ‘We review the denial of a Marsden motion for
    abuse of discretion.’ ” (People v. Streeter (2012) 
    54 Cal.4th 205
    , 230.)
    Further, as particularly relevant here, “[w]hen reviewing whether the trial
    court abused its discretion in denying a Marsden motion, we consider
    whether it made an adequate inquiry into the defendant’s complaints.”
    (People v. Mungia (2008) 
    44 Cal.4th 1101
    , 1128 (Mungia).)
    The type of inquiry required in a Marsden hearing was first addressed
    in Marsden itself. There, the defendant sought a ruling on whether he was
    receiving competent representation. In considering the issue, the trial court
    did not allow the defendant to explain the basis for his dissatisfaction with
    counsel, even though the defendant asked that he be permitted to describe
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    specific instances. Instead, the trial court improperly denied relief based on
    the court’s observation of counsel during the proceedings. (Marsden, supra, 2
    Cal.3d at pp. 121-122.) In the course of explaining the type of inquiry that a
    trial court should conduct, our Supreme Court noted that a court should not
    “disregard[ ] the defendant’s lay status and his admitted ignorance of the
    law. . . . The semantics employed by a lay person in asserting a
    constitutional right should not be given undue weight in determining the
    protection to be accorded that right.” (Id. at p. 124.) Marsden also indicated
    that because a layperson’s request for substitute counsel is involved, a trial
    court may attempt to assist a defendant in articulating the basis for the
    request. As Marsden noted, “although defendant was represented by counsel,
    he was groping for the proper manner in which to demonstrate the alleged
    lack of competence of his attorney, and the trial judge would have been well
    within the bounds of judicial propriety in giving any helpful suggestion which
    might have aided defendant in the presentation of his complaint.” (Id. at
    p. 126.)
    Following Marsden, our Supreme Court has on numerous occasions
    considered whether a trial court followed adequate procedures during a
    hearing at which a defendant sought to substitute appointed counsel. As one
    court has summarized the relevant authority, “Marsden and its progeny
    require that when a defendant complains about the adequacy of appointed
    counsel, the trial court permit the defendant to articulate his causes of
    dissatisfaction and, if any of them suggest ineffective assistance, to conduct
    an inquiry sufficient to ascertain whether counsel is in fact rendering
    effective assistance. [Citations.] If the defendant states facts sufficient to
    raise a question about counsel’s effectiveness, the court must question
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    counsel as necessary to ascertain their veracity.” (People v. Eastman (2007)
    
    146 Cal.App.4th 688
    , 695.)
    2.    Carramusa Did Not Receive a Full and Adequate Marsden
    Hearing
    In challenging the trial court’s denial of his Marsden motion,
    Carramusa focuses on the outcome of the proceeding. Specifically,
    Carramusa contends that based on his handwritten letter and the arguments
    he presented in his habeas petition, the trial court could come to no other
    conclusion than that Carramusa had an irreconcilable conflict with Mr. Den
    due to the fact that Mr. Den declined to file a motion to withdraw
    Carramusa’s guilty plea. As Carramusa explains, had Mr. Den successfully
    moved to withdraw the guilty plea, Carramusa could then require the People
    to prove his prior strike and prior serious felony under the standards set
    forth in Gallardo, supra, 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    .
    Carramusa’s argument is misdirected because it assumes that in ruling
    on the Marsden motion, the trial court had the opportunity to consider both
    (1) the content of Carramusa’s handwritten letter; and (2) the existence of
    Carramusa’s habeas petition. We find no indication in the record that the
    trial court was aware of or able to consider either of those items when it ruled
    on the Marsden motion.13 Thus, we cannot conclude, as Carramusa
    13    Indeed, in explaining to Carramusa that Mr. Den’s failure to
    communicate with appellate counsel was unimportant because “[t]he
    thoughts and processes aren’t part of the Court of Appeal,” the trial court
    strongly suggested that it had no knowledge that Carramusa had also filed a
    habeas petition. The trial court would not have made such a statement had
    it known about the habeas petition because, in a habeas corpus proceeding,
    evidence about defense counsel’s tactical reasons for taking a specific action
    can be submitted and may be relevant to the outcome. (See People v.
    Wilson (1992) 
    3 Cal.4th 926
    , 936 [“[A] claim of ineffective assistance is more
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    advocates, that the trial court was required to conclude, based on the
    information it considered at the Marsden hearing, that an irreconcilable
    conflict existed between Carramusa and Mr. Den.
    However, that observation does not end our inquiry. An appellate
    court’s review of a ruling denying a Marsden motion is not limited to
    examining whether the trial court reasonably concluded, based on the
    information presented, that defense counsel provided competent
    representation and that there was no irreconcilable conflict. We must also
    review “whether [the trial court] made an adequate inquiry into the
    defendant’s complaints.” (Mungia, 
    supra,
     44 Cal.4th at p. 1128.) Here, as we
    will explain, it appears that through no fault of its own, the trial court did not
    conduct a full and adequate inquiry into the grounds that Carramusa
    advanced for his request to substitute appointed counsel.
    We turn to the transcript of the Marsden hearing for our analysis. The
    transcript shows that the trial court proceeded at the outset by asking
    Carramusa to explain the basis for his request to substitute appointed
    counsel. In responding, Carramusa immediately struggled to articulate the
    basis for his Marsden motion and indicated that he wanted to rely on the
    grounds that appellate counsel had identified for asking to substitute
    appointed counsel. Among other things, Carramusa stated that he “couldn’t
    remember completely,” that he was “nervous as it is,” and that it was “hard to
    speak by itself.”
    appropriately made in a habeas corpus proceeding, in which the attorney has
    the opportunity to explain the reasons for his or her conduct. ‘Having
    afforded the trial attorney an opportunity to explain, courts are in a position
    to intelligently evaluate whether counsel’s acts or omissions were within the
    range of reasonable competence.’ ”].)
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    Carramusa sought to refer to a letter that he believed the bailiff had
    handed to the trial court, which Carramusa described as showing “the reason
    being why [appellate counsel] suggested for me to seek new counsel.”
    However, no such letter is contained in the superior court file even though, at
    the end of the Marsden hearing, the trial court stated, “You did give me a
    letter. Did you want to have this as part of the court record here?” and
    Carramusa responded affirmatively. We infer from subsequent comments
    made at the hearing that Carramusa wrongly assumed that the letter the
    bailiff handed to the trial court described appellate counsel’s reasons for
    recommending that Carramusa seek substitute appointed counsel. Instead,
    it appears that the bailiff handed the trial court a different letter. That letter
    was written by Carramusa to support his request that the trial court strike
    the five-year enhancement for the prior serious felony, and it expressed
    Carramusa’s remorse for the burglary and his desire to make restitution to
    the victims. The letter is included in the appellate record and is file stamped
    July 9, 2019, the date of the Marsden hearing. As the letter does not describe
    appellate counsel’s advice that Carramusa seek substitute counsel, it cannot
    be the letter that Carramusa believed the bailiff was handing to the trial
    court.
    Although the trial court made a diligent attempt to understand the
    basis on which appellate counsel had advised Carramusa to seek substitute
    appointed counsel, and Carramusa did his best to try to explain the grounds
    that appellate counsel identified for him, a series of circumstances appear to
    have frustrated the ability of the trial court to fully understand the basis for
    Carramusa’s request. First, as we have explained, it appears that
    Carramusa believed the bailiff was handing the trial court a letter explaining
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    appellate counsel’s reasons for recommending that Carramusa seek
    substitute counsel, but the trial court did not receive that letter.
    Second, the trial court does not appear to have been aware of
    Carramusa’s handwritten letter dated March 31, 2019. Although the letter
    was filed on May 14, 2019, we see no indication in the record that the letter
    was part of the materials that the trial court reviewed during the July 9,
    2019 Marsden hearing. If the trial court had consulted Carramusa’s
    handwritten letter during the Marsden hearing, it could have asked follow-up
    questions to both Carramusa and Mr. Den to attempt to ascertain what
    Carramusa meant when he stated that he had a conflict with defense counsel
    because “Mr. Den failed to withdraw my plea of ‘guilty’ . . . after the Calif.
    Supr. Court issued a decision on Peo. v. G (2017) 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    .” (See People
    v. Miranda (1987) 
    44 Cal.3d 57
    , 77 [“The failure to ask follow-up questions
    may make it more difficult for a trial court to thoughtfully exercise its
    discretion in a manner required by Marsden,” and “[a]dditional questioning
    may assist the court in assessing the merit or lack thereof of a defendant’s
    motion.”].) The response to follow-up questions about the handwritten letter
    would likely have caused the trial court to understand that Carramusa’s
    request for substitute counsel was, in part, based on Mr. Den’s failure to
    advise Carramusa to bring a motion to withdraw his guilty plea after
    Gallardo was issued.
    Finally, we see no indication in the record that the trial court was
    aware of either Carramusa’s 2018 habeas petition or our order summarily
    denying that petition. The trial court made no mention of having reviewed
    any materials from the habeas corpus proceeding, and Mr. Den did not bring
    the habeas corpus proceeding to the trial court’s attention, even when the
    trial court asked if Mr. Den perceived any “hint” of incompetent
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    representation in the materials filed in the Court of Appeal. Had the trial
    court been made aware of the basis for Carramusa’s habeas petition, the trial
    court likely would have understood that Carramusa’s request for substitute
    counsel was, in part, based on an alleged conflict with Mr. Den arising from
    Mr. Den’s failure to file a motion to withdraw Carramusa’s guilty plea in
    light of Gallardo. In addition, had the trial court known that Carramusa
    filed a habeas petition, it would have understood the significance of
    Carramusa’s complaint that Mr. Den was ineffective by failing to
    communicate with appellate counsel.
    In light of the three items that the trial court could have considered
    during the Marsden hearing, but did not, we conclude that Carramusa did
    not receive a full and adequate Marsden hearing. As in Marsden, Carramusa
    was a layperson “groping for the proper manner in which to demonstrate the
    alleged lack of competence of his attorney” (Marsden, supra, 2 Cal.3d at
    p. 126), and he should have been permitted to rely on his March 31, 2019
    handwritten letter and statements from appellate counsel when seeking to
    articulate why he wanted a new attorney. The inadvertent omission of
    (1) the letter that Carramusa believed the bailiff was handing to the trial
    court; (2) Carramusa’s handwritten letter which included the citation to
    Gallardo; and (3) any awareness of Carramusa’s habeas petition, all
    combined to deprive Carramusa of his ability, as a layperson, to effectively
    explain the basis for his request for substitute counsel.
    3.    The Lack of a Full and Adequate Marsden Hearing Was
    Prejudicial
    Having concluded that Carramusa did not obtain a full and adequate
    Marsden hearing, we must determine whether the error was prejudicial and
    requires reversal.
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    “Marsden does not establish a rule of per se reversible error.
    [Citations.] Where there is Marsden error, we must reverse, unless the
    record shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was not
    prejudiced.” (People v. Knight (2015) 
    239 Cal.App.4th 1
    , 9.)
    The People contend that any error arising from the Marsden hearing
    was harmless to the extent that Carramusa’s Marsden motion was based on
    the argument that Mr. Den should have brought a motion to withdraw
    Carramusa’s guilty plea. If Mr. Den had successfully moved to allow
    Carramusa to withdraw his guilty plea, Carramusa could have required the
    People to prove his prior strike and prior serious felony based on the
    standards set forth in Gallardo, supra, 
    4 Cal.5th 120
    . However, accordingly
    to the People, success on a motion to withdraw the plea ultimately would not
    have made any difference for Carramusa’s sentence. The People point out
    that in our March 5, 2019 order summarily denying Carramusa’s habeas
    petition, we stated that even under Gallardo, the People still will be able to
    prove Carramusa’s prior strike and prior serious felony. Thus, as the People
    argue, even if they were put to their proof under Gallardo after Carramusa
    withdrew his plea, Carramusa would receive the same sentence.
    Although we understand the People’s argument, we reject it because it
    depends on the premise that our March 5, 2019 habeas order continues to
    govern this matter. “[T]he summary denial of a habeas corpus petition does
    not establish law of the case and does not have a res judicata effect in future
    proceedings.” (Gomez v. Superior Court (2012) 
    54 Cal.4th 293
    , 305, fn. 6; see
    also Kowis v. Howard (1992) 
    3 Cal.4th 888
    , 895 [“A short statement or
    citation explaining the basis for the summary denial does not transform the
    denial into a decision of a cause entitled to law of the case effect.”].) On
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    further review, we do not believe that our March 5, 2019 order should be the
    last word on how Gallardo applies in this matter.
    Our March 5, 2019 order contained the following explanation as one of
    the two grounds for our denial of Carramusa’s habeas petition:
    “[E]ven if defense counsel had moved to withdraw Carramusa’s
    guilty plea so as to require the People to prove that the 1994
    battery conviction was a strike and a serious felony, the People
    could have relied on the preliminary hearing transcript from the
    1994 proceeding under an exception set forth in Gallardo.
    Specifically, Gallardo indicated that when the prior conviction at
    issue involved a guilty plea in which the defendant expressly
    incorporated the preliminary hearing transcript as the factual
    basis for the guilty plea, the trial court was permitted to look to
    that preliminary hearing transcript to establish the nature of the
    conviction. (Gallardo, supra, 4 Cal.5th at p. 136 [the trial court
    improperly relied on a preliminary hearing transcript when
    ‘[n]othing in the record shows that defendant adopted the
    preliminary hearing testimony as supplying the factual basis for
    her guilty plea’].) Here, according to documents contained in the
    record and submitted to the trial court, Carramusa’s guilty plea
    for the 1994 battery conviction expressly incorporated the
    preliminary hearing transcript. Accordingly, under Gallardo, if
    the People were required to prove that the 1994 battery
    conviction was a ‘felony in which the defendant personally
    inflict[ed] great bodily injury on any person, other than an
    accomplice’ (§ 1192.7, subd. (c)(8)), they would be able to do so
    based on the preliminary hearing transcript, which shows that
    Carramusa personally inflicted the injury and that the victim
    was not an accomplice.”
    We no longer endorse this analysis for two reasons.
    First, we were inexact in characterizing the documentation from
    Carramusa’s 1994 plea hearing. We stated that “according to documents
    contained in the record and submitted to the trial court, Carramusa’s guilty
    plea for the 1994 battery conviction expressly incorporated the preliminary
    hearing transcript.” We failed to highlight that the only documentation from
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    the 1994 plea hearing that the trial court had before it was a single minute
    order. The trial court did not review the transcript from the 1994 plea
    hearing or any other documentation, such as Carramusa’s 1994 written plea
    agreement. The minute order itself says nothing about whether Carramusa
    personally made any factual admissions on the record or in his plea
    agreement. Instead, in describing the basis for the guilty plea, the minute
    order makes only a single statement. “Counsel stipulate: FACTUAL BASIS
    TAKEN FROM PRELIM HRG TRANSCRIPT.”
    The minute order’s reference to counsel’s stipulation is significant in
    that the trial court is “limited to identifying those facts that were established
    by virtue of the conviction itself—that is, facts the jury was necessarily
    required to find to render a guilty verdict, or that the defendant admitted as
    the factual basis for a guilty plea.” (Gallardo, supra, 4 Cal.5th at p. 136,
    italics added.) Gallardo states that the defendant must make the admission.
    It is unclear from the minute order whether that occurred.14
    We note that on December 12, 2017, when the People submitted the
    documentation from Carramusa’s 1994 battery conviction, Gallardo had not
    yet issued. Under then-existing authority, the trial court was permitted to
    look to the preliminary hearing transcript from Carramusa’s 1994 battery
    conviction to ascertain whether “the conviction realistically may have been
    based on conduct that would not constitute a serious felony under California
    law.” (People v. McGee (2006) 
    38 Cal.4th 682
    , 706.) It is possible that, in
    14    This court has previously held that, under Gallardo, a trial court may
    consider specific factual admissions that a defendant makes on the record
    during a plea hearing. (In re Scott (2020) 
    49 Cal.App.5th 1003
    , 1019-1021,
    review granted Aug. 12, 2020, S262716.) Here, the record does not permit
    the type of inquiry conducted in Scott because the trial court was not
    presented with a transcript from Carramusa’s 1994 plea hearing.
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    light of Gallardo, the People will be able to locate additional documentation
    from the plea hearing for the 1994 battery conviction. Therefore, it would be
    premature for us to opine on whether, if Carramusa was granted leave to
    withdraw his guilty plea, the People would be able to prove that Carramusa
    incurred a strike and a serious felony.
    Second, our March 5, 2019 order characterized Gallardo as indicating
    “that when the prior conviction at issue involved a guilty plea in which the
    defendant expressly incorporated the preliminary hearing transcript as the
    factual basis for the guilty plea, the trial court was permitted to look to that
    preliminary hearing transcript to establish the nature of the conviction.” We
    based this statement on Gallardo’s factual observation that “[n]othing in the
    record shows that defendant adopted the preliminary hearing testimony as
    supplying the factual basis for her guilty plea.” (Gallardo, supra, 4 Cal.5th at
    p. 136.) As we will explain, upon further review, we believe we overstated
    Gallardo’s holding.
    In Gallardo, the issue was whether the trial court improperly relied on
    a preliminary hearing transcript to determine that the defendant used a
    deadly weapon in committing an assault. (Gallardo, supra, 4 Cal.5th at
    p. 123.) Our Supreme Court explained, “Defendant did not specify that she
    used a deadly weapon when entering her guilty plea. The trial court’s sole
    basis for concluding that defendant used a deadly weapon was a transcript
    from a preliminary hearing at which the victim testified that defendant had
    used a knife during their altercation. Nothing in the record shows that
    defendant adopted the preliminary hearing testimony as supplying the
    factual basis for her guilty plea.” (Id. at p. 136.) Gallardo concluded that it
    was improper for the trial court to have relied on the preliminary hearing
    transcript because “at least in the absence of any pertinent admissions, the
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    sentencing court can only guess at whether, by pleading guilty to a violation
    of Penal Code section 245, subd. (a)(1), defendant was also acknowledging the
    truth of the testimony [in the preliminary hearing transcript] indicating that
    she had committed the assault with a knife.” (Id. at p. 137, italics added.)
    Because the issue was not presented by the facts of the case, Gallardo
    did not address the circumstances under which a defendant’s reference to a
    preliminary hearing transcript during a plea hearing will be sufficient to
    establish that the defendant admitted the facts testified to during the
    preliminary hearing. (Gallardo, supra, 4 Cal.5th at p. 136.) Gallardo stated
    that “in the absence of any pertinent admissions” the trial court should not
    have relied on the preliminary hearing transcript (id. at p. 137, italics added),
    but it failed to describe the type of “pertinent admissions” that would be
    sufficient to allow the trial court to do so. In our view, the proper approach to
    that question remains open pending further guidance from our Supreme
    Court. Indeed, it is possible that the significance of a preliminary hearing
    transcript will depend, at least in part, on the specific statements that a
    defendant makes during a plea hearing or in a written plea agreement
    concerning the preliminary hearing transcript.
    In sum, in light of (1) Gallardo’s requirements for proving a prior
    conviction, and (2) the limited documentation from the 1994 plea proceeding
    that the People have thus far located, we cannot conclude beyond a
    reasonable doubt that Carramusa would be unsuccessful in obtaining a more
    favorable outcome were we to remand to permit him to renew his Marsden
    motion to obtain substitute counsel. Accordingly, we will reverse the
    judgment and remand for a renewed Marsden hearing. Following the
    renewed Marsden hearing, and regardless of its outcome, Carramusa may file
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    a motion to withdraw his guilty plea if he chooses to do so.15 If no such
    motion is filed, or if the motion is denied, the trial court shall reinstate the
    judgment.16
    B.    The Issue of Whether Defense Counsel Was Ineffective Is Not Ripe for
    Review In Light of Our Disposition Remanding for a Renewed Marsden
    Hearing
    Carramusa’s second contention on appeal is that he received ineffective
    assistance of counsel in violation of his constitutional rights. (Strickland v.
    Washington (1984) 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 684-686; People v. Doolin (2009) 
    45 Cal.4th 390
    , 417.) Specifically, Carramusa contends that Mr. Den should have
    advised him to withdraw his guilty plea in light of Gallardo.
    Because we will reverse the judgment and remand for a renewed
    Marsden hearing, Carramusa’s contention that the judgment should be
    reversed due to ineffective assistance from counsel is not yet ripe for review.
    15     Section 1018 states in relevant part, “On application of the defendant
    at any time before judgment . . . the court may . . . for a good cause shown,
    permit the plea of guilty to be withdrawn and a plea of not guilty substituted.
    . . . This section shall be liberally construed to effect these objects and to
    promote justice.” (§ 1018.)
    16      In People v. Sanchez (2011) 
    53 Cal.4th 80
    , 92-93, our Supreme Court
    approved the following disposition when it reversed the judgment based on
    the trial court’s failure to hold a Marsden hearing for a defendant who wished
    to withdraw his plea: “ ‘(1) the court shall hold a hearing on [defendant]’s
    Marsden motion concerning his representation by the public defender’s office;
    (2) if the court finds that [defendant] has shown that a failure to replace his
    appointed attorney would substantially impair his right to assistance of
    counsel, the court shall appoint new counsel to represent him and shall
    entertain such applications as newly appointed counsel may make; and (3) if
    newly appointed counsel makes no motions, any motions made are denied, or
    [defendant]’s Marsden motion is denied, the court shall reinstate the
    judgment.’ ” In this case, our disposition differs somewhat in that Mr. Den
    may end up filing a motion on remand.
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    Further proceedings on remand may make the issue moot or may provide
    additional evidence concerning the nature of defense counsel’s
    representation. We therefore do not, and need not, reach the issue of
    whether Mr. Den provided constitutionally ineffective assistance.
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    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is reversed, and the matter is remanded for a renewed
    Marsden hearing. Following the renewed Marsden hearing, and regardless of
    its outcome, Carramusa may file a motion to withdraw his guilty plea if he
    chooses to do so. If no such motion is filed, or if the motion is denied, the trial
    court shall reinstate the judgment.
    IRION, J.
    WE CONCUR:
    McCONNELL, P. J.
    DATO, J.
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