People v. Taylor CA4/1 ( 2015 )


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  • Filed 8/25/15 P. v. Taylor CA4/1
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    COURT OF APPEAL, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION ONE
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    THE PEOPLE,                                                         D065618
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    v.                                                         (Super. Ct. No. SCD248804)
    KATHERINE TAYLOR,
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Diego County, Eugenia A.
    Eyherabide, Judge. Affirmed.
    Alex David Kreit, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
    Appellant.
    Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General, Julie L. Garland, Assistant Attorney General,
    Peter Quon, Jr., Deputy Attorney General, for Plaintiff and Respondent.
    Following a bench trial, Katherine Taylor was convicted of felony driving under
    the influence (Veh. Code,1 § 23153, subd. (a); count 1) and felony driving with a blood
    1        All statutory references are to the Vehicle Code unless otherwise stated.
    alcohol level of 0.08 percent causing bodily injury (§ 23153, subd. (b); count 2). Taylor
    stipulated to her guilt for misdemeanor driving with a license that was revoked for
    driving under the influence of alcohol (§ 14601.2, subd. (a); count 3). As to counts 1 and
    2, it was alleged that Taylor was previously convicted of violating section 23152,
    subdivision (a) within the meaning of sections 23626 and 23540 for refusing to submit to
    a chemical test requested by a peace officer within the meaning of section 23577 and that
    Taylor, in the commission of the above offenses, caused injury to more than one victim
    within the meaning of section 23558. Taylor appeals, contending (1) a warrantless blood
    draw conducted after she refused to submit to a voluntary blood test violated her Fourth
    Amendment right against warrantless searches and seizures and (2) she was denied
    effective assistance of counsel by the trial court's failure to conduct a hearing pursuant to
    People v. Marsden (1970) 
    2 Cal. 3d 118
    (Marsden). We affirm the judgment.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND2
    The facts underlying this case are not materially disputed. Several stipulations
    were entered into before trial including the fact Taylor drove a vehicle involved in a
    collision with at least one other vehicle and the collision caused bodily injury to three
    other people. Taylor's car swerved from the number three lane on northbound Interstate
    805 into the number two lane, hitting someone else and causing another car to lose
    control. Witness Scott Staples described Taylor's driving as erratic and observed her in
    2      The facts pertaining to Taylor's arrest and blood draw are taken from the transcript
    of the Penal Code section 1538.5 suppression motion.
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    the driver's seat of her vehicle. The accounts of Taylor swerving between lanes and
    causing the accident were substantiated by other witnesses.
    California Highway Patrol (CHP) Officer Kevin Rinehart arrived on the scene of
    the multi-car collision at approximately 3:56 p.m. He noted several vehicles were on the
    northbound center divider of Interstate 805 and took statements from the witnesses.
    Damage to all the vehicles involved in the collision was consistent with the witnesses'
    accounts of Taylor's driving.
    Officer Rinehart spoke to Taylor who appeared intoxicated because she stumbled
    around, was incoherent in answering questions, had bloodshot eyes, and stated "Satan"
    had caused her to crash. At no time during the investigation did Taylor suggest or state
    that another car had caused her to swerve between lanes. Officer Rinehart administered
    several field sobriety tests on which Taylor performed poorly.
    Taylor was arrested at 4:25 p.m. and transported to a local CHP Office where she
    refused to undergo a chemical blood alcohol test. When Taylor refused, officers
    explained to her when a person drives a vehicle in California he or she has impliedly
    consented to chemical testing of his or her blood or breath to determine blood alcohol
    content (§ 23612, subd. (a)(1)(A)). Additionally Officer Rinehart explained to Taylor if
    she did not consent to the chemical test her license would be suspended for a year.
    Taylor still refused.
    CHP Officer Brad Clinkscales testified that because Taylor had refused to submit
    to a blood test, the fact she was arrested for a felony, and the alcohol in her blood was
    dissipating, he decided to seek a telephonic search warrant. He specifically took steps to
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    obtain a warrant due to then recent United States Supreme Court authority, Missouri v.
    McNeely (2013) 569 U.S. ___ [
    133 S. Ct. 1552
    ] (McNeely). Officer Clinkscales contacted
    the on-call deputy district attorney who attempted to call the on-call magistrate judge, but
    the judge was not available and did not answer the phone. Officer Clinkscales knew the
    courts were closed and not due to open until 8:00 o'clock the next morning. He was also
    aware that on average, alcohol dissipates from the body at a rate of 0.02 percent per hour
    and a delay could have resulted in the evidence being completely gone or almost
    nonexistent. According to Officer Clinkscales, his department's standard procedure did
    not include multiple attempts to contact a judge. Rather, the deputy district attorney
    advised him that McNeely allowed him to take Taylor's blood when the judge was
    unavailable to issue a warrant. Following this discussion, Officer Clinkscales went ahead
    and arranged for a warrantless blood draw of Taylor at 6:43 p.m. The parties stipulated
    that Taylor's blood alcohol content was 0.18 percent.
    Taylor moved to suppress evidence of her blood draw on grounds police violated
    her constitutional rights against unreasonable searches and seizures by detaining her
    without reasonable suspicion, drawing her blood without a warrant or exigent
    circumstances, and obtaining statements during the allegedly unlawful arrest. In
    September 2013, after the motion was continued a few times, Taylor became frustrated
    and wrote a letter to the judge stating she was "getting ready to ask for a Mardisen [sic]
    hearing" and "I think this is grounds for dismissal!" In the letter, Taylor asked for
    leniency because "this was not a car-jacking or stolen vehicle." She expressed frustration
    about not being offered DUI classes and asked for alternative sentencing, listing the
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    options she would prefer: "#1 I'll take re-entry program. [¶] #2 I'll take jiont [sic]
    suspension, lid. Stay prison term. C-PAC [¶] #3 Or time served. DUI classes"
    Taylor's suppression motion was heard in October 2013. Following the testimony
    of Officers Reinhart and Clinkscales, Taylor argued the single telephone call to the judge
    was an insufficient effort to obtain a search warrant so as to justify the forced warrantless
    blood draw. The trial court confirmed that 
    McNeely, supra
    , 
    133 S. Ct. 1552
    governed, but
    expressed its view that the decision did not provide clear guidance on the issue. Though
    the court stated that Taylor's arguments were reasonable, it found McNeely did not
    require anything more than what Officer Clinkscales did, which was to contact the deputy
    district attorney who then unsuccessfully attempted to contact a magistrate judge in an
    effort to obtain a warrant. After summarizing the circumstances of Taylor's blood draw,
    the court denied the motion to suppress, ruling the warrantless blood draw was
    constitutionally permitted under McNeely.3
    3       In part, the court stated: "In this particular case, Officer Rinehart came upon kind
    of a chaotic scene, out on [Interstate] 805, with all these three or four cars that were
    involved in an accident, all of these people out of their cars. It took him a while to kind
    of get the lay of the land and see what was going on. [¶] I mean, he said that the call
    came in at 3:46; so that's the time of the crash, the time of the driving. And then by the
    time—he got there at 3:56, arrested [Taylor] at 4:25, took her back to the station, talked
    to Officer Clinkscales. [¶] Officer Clinkscales spoke to the D.A. and finally got the
    word back, and then they did the blood draw at 6:43. It is now a full three hours from
    3:46, the time of the accident, to 6:46, a full three hours. So I think the officers were well
    within the guidelines to do this forced blood draw under the circumstances. [¶] Three
    hours had gone by, and the alcohol in the blood was obviously dissipating. It would have
    been different, as I said, if she was arrested, taken back to the station. I think the delay in
    the accident scene caused a lot of the delay; so there was quite a bit of delay here through
    no fault of the officers, and I really can't find any fault with what they did and that they
    were required to keep trying to find a judge. [¶] So I think that blood draw was
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    In December 2013, the court held a hearing to determine if Taylor was mentally
    competent to stand trial. During the hearing, Taylor made multiple unsolicited outbursts
    in the courtroom. After the court found Taylor competent to stand trial, it proceeded to
    set January dates for a pretrial readiness hearing and trial. Taylor continued to interject
    commentary in the following colloquy:
    "[Taylor:] No. I'm, I'm sorry. That's too much. I need more time. It's too far
    away. I am going crazy in San Diego jail, okay? [Defense counsel is] telling me I got to
    sign for three years before I go to this behavioral health court. [¶] The whole thing is
    backwards and it's not right, Your Honor. I've been sitting in county jail for eight months
    on this, something that I didn't—I was drinking. I will never drink again, but I didn't
    cause this accident. [¶] And for me to lose my social security and be put in
    (unintelligible) is not humanly fair. It's not what you guys are doing to me. It's
    (unintelligible.) It's turning me into somebody that I'm not. I don't want (unintelligible).
    "The Court: "All right. Miss Taylor, that's why you have an attorney to represent
    you.
    "[Taylor]: I can't stay in jail. I can stay in county jail (unintelligible) any more
    time. I can't do it—[¶] . . . [¶] It's too far away. I'm losing my mind, I'm losing my
    mind. [¶] . . . [¶] I didn't kill anyone. No one got hurt in this accident. Why are you
    doing this to me, why? I want to know. I stopped smoking crack cocaine. I am trying—
    I got back into society by working hard and doing something productive, and this is what
    constitutionally permitted under the McNeely case; . . . the [section] 1538.5 motion is
    going to be denied . . . ."
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    you're doing? [¶] It's going to put me back in jail. That's going to create me back into a
    person that I don't want to go back to, and it's not right. What you guys are doing to me,
    it's not fair. [¶] I spoke to Jerry Brown. I want a person that needs to pay attention. I
    should be in D.U.I. classes right now, be with my grandchildren for the holidays. What
    you guys are doing is wrong. [¶] She wants me to sign for a three-year deal before you
    even put me in (unintelligible) don't accept me. I'm just railroaded into doing something
    that is not even fair, and it's supposed to be punishment, not brutal. I've served enough
    time for this. I still don't feel that—
    "The Court: [Defense counsel], would it be of any benefit to your client if we
    moved up the readiness?
    "[Defense counsel]: If they have something available next week because, after
    that, I'm going to be on vacation until the end of the year, so I don't know.
    "[Taylor]: Why are you doing this? I'm sorry. Why? I did enough time for this.
    I realize what I did wrong. Any more time is not going to—
    "The Clerk: We can try to do December 9.
    "The Court: [Defense counsel], how about we put the readiness on December 9th?
    I don't know what will be accomplished. Are you available then?
    "[Defense counsel]: I am, your honor. My, my concern is this case has been on
    for readiness and trial quite a few times, and I've actually—
    "[Taylor]: I would like to fire her.
    "[Defense counsel]:—I've spoken with the D.A. several times outside the
    readiness department, through e-mail, over the phone, to try to renegotiate and
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    renegotiate this case. [¶] The problem is they have come up with some, some options for
    Miss Taylor. Part of that includes a stayed prison time with local custody followed by
    residential treatment. She's not interested in that. And the other option is a state prison
    sentence. Because of this charge, it is a state prison case; it is not local prison.
    "[Taylor]: I'm AB 109, doing excellent on probation.
    "[Defense counsel]: So the problem I have—
    "[Taylor]: You're fired. I'm not working well with you. [¶] December 9th would
    be fine, Sir.
    "The Court: Okay. Ma'am, I need to speak to your attorney.
    "[Defense counsel]: My concern is that I don't know if another readiness is going
    to change anything. If Miss Taylor wants to do a Marsden hearing on that morning, we
    can do that; that's fine—
    "The Court: Well—
    "[Defense counsel]:—I just, I, I'm concerned because there have been several
    readinesses in this case where I've negotiated and renegotiated, and Miss Taylor is not
    happy with the deals that I've negotiated. And I've explained the behavioral health court
    situation to her because you have to enter a plea with a certain amount of time on the plea
    form, if you're not accepted, then you get that sentence. And so she's not happy with that,
    either—
    "[Taylor]: Because the sentence is way too high."
    The trial court eventually reiterated the upcoming January hearing dates, but
    remarked: "Well, [defense counsel], your client's obviously upset. She wants to move
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    her case along." When counsel expressed her view that she did not think her client's offer
    would change with an earlier date. Taylor interjected: "December 9th, [defense
    counsel], and e-mail me and do your job; you're not doing your job."
    After moving up the court date, the court advised Taylor that her attorney was
    "one of the best attorneys in the courthouse" with good rapport with the district attorney's
    office, that counsel was respected and Taylor "couldn't do better." Taylor responded in
    part that she appreciated the comment, but "this term that you're giving me is an
    outrageous term." The court responded, "Well, okay. You're entitled to your opinion,
    ma'am. You're the one that's charged with a crime here; and it's totally up to you as to
    what's going to, what you're going to do. . . . [¶] So as I said, you do what you want.
    We've moved up your date [to] the 9th of December. [Defense counsel] will go in, talk to
    the D.A. again for you, and try to get the best deal that she can for you." Taylor replied,
    "Yes, Sir." The court and Taylor engaged in further conversation about Taylor's
    background. The hearing concluded without Taylor renewing her request to fire her
    counsel.
    Following a bench trial, the court denied Taylor probation and sentenced her to a
    four-year prison term.
    DISCUSSION
    I. Motion to Suppress Blood Draw Evidence
    A. Legal Principles
    1. Fourth Amendment
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    The Fourth Amendment provides in part that "[t]he right of the people to be secure
    in their persons, houses, papers and effect, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
    shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause." (U.S.
    Const., 14th Amend.; see 
    McNeely, supra
    , 133 S.Ct. at p. 1558.) The touchstone of the
    Fourth Amendment is reasonableness. (Riley v. California (2014) ___ U.S. ___ [
    134 S. Ct. 2473
    , 2482].) Searches without a warrant are presumptively unreasonable. (See
    People v. Troyer (2011) 
    51 Cal. 4th 599
    , 602; People v. Harris (2015) 
    234 Cal. App. 4th 671
    , 682-683.) " 'Nevertheless, because the ultimate touchstone of the Fourth
    Amendment is "reasonableness," the warrant requirement is subject to certain
    exceptions.' " (Troyer, at p. 602; McNeely, 133 S.Ct. at p. 1558.) The principle that a
    warrantless search is reasonable only if it falls within a recognized exception applies to
    compelled blood draws for use as evidence in a criminal investigation, as "[s]uch an
    invasion of bodily integrity implicates an individual's 'most personal and deep-rooted
    expectations of privacy.' " (
    McNeely, supra
    , 133 S.Ct. at p. 1558.)
    One well-recognized exception to the warrant requirement is when the
    " 'exigencies of the situation make the needs of law enforcement so compelling that a
    warrantless search is objectively reasonable under the Fourth Amendment.' " (
    McNeely, supra
    , 133 S.Ct. at p. 1558.) Exigency may arise, for example, when law enforcement
    officers have the need to prevent the imminent destruction of evidence. (Ibid.; see People
    v. Thompson (2006) 
    38 Cal. 4th 811
    , 820.)
    In April 2013, the United States Supreme Court decided 
    McNeely, supra
    , 
    133 S. Ct. 1552
    . There, the defendant was pulled over for speeding and repeatedly crossing
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    the centerline. (Id. at p. 1557.) He was placed under arrest after refusing to take a breath
    test. (Ibid.) The officer began to take McNeely to a station, but after McNeely stated he
    would not provide a breath sample, police transported him to a hospital, where McNeely
    refused to provide a blood sample and his blood was drawn without a warrant. (Ibid.)
    The McNeely court held that the natural dissipation of alcohol in the bloodstream
    did not categorically establish exigency that would justify an exception to the warrant
    requirement for nonconsensual blood testing in drunk-driving investigations. (
    McNeely, supra
    , 133 S.Ct. at p. 1556.) Instead, "exigency in this context must be determined case
    by case based on the totality of the circumstances" and thus "the metabolization of
    alcohol in the bloodstream and the ensuing loss of evidence are among the factors that
    must be considered in deciding whether a warrant is required." (Id. at pp. 1556, 1558.)
    Pointing out that delay is inevitable in the transportation of drunk-driving suspects to a
    medical facility, the court stated that "in those drunk-driving investigations where police
    officers can reasonably obtain a warrant before a blood sample can be drawn without
    significantly undermining the efficacy of the search, the Fourth Amendment mandates
    that they do so." (Id. at p. 1561.) In cases where "the warrant process will not
    significantly increase the delay before the blood test is conducted because an officer can
    take steps to secure a warrant while the suspect is being transported to a medical facility
    by another officer . . . , there would be no plausible justification for an exception to the
    warrant requirement." (Ibid.) The court acknowledged that "improvements in
    communications technology do not guarantee that a magistrate judge will be available
    when an officer needs a warrant after making a late-night arrest. But technological
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    developments that enable police officers to secure warrants more quickly, and do so
    without undermining the neutral magistrate judge's essential role as a check on police
    discretion, are relevant to an assessment of exigency." (Id. at p. 1562.)
    Nevertheless, McNeely made clear that "exigent circumstances justifying a
    warrantless blood sample may arise in the regular course of law enforcement due to
    delays from the warrant application process." (
    McNeely, supra
    , 133 S.Ct. at p. 1553.)
    "Other factors present in an ordinary traffic stop, such as the procedures in place for
    obtaining a warrant or the availability of a magistrate judge, may affect whether the
    police can obtain a warrant in an expeditious way and therefore may establish an
    exigency that permits a warrantless search. The relevant factors in determining whether a
    warrantless search is reasonable, including the practical problems of obtaining a warrant
    within a timeframe that still preserves the opportunity to obtain reliable evidence, will no
    doubt vary depending upon the circumstances in the case." (Id. at p. 1568.)
    2. The Good Faith Exception to the Exclusionary Rule
    The exclusionary rule " 'operates as a judicially[-]created remedy designed to
    safeguard against future violations of Fourth Amendment rights through the rule's general
    deterrent effect. [Citations.]' [Citation.] Thus, its ' "prime purpose" ' is to ' "effectuate" '
    the Fourth Amendment's guarantee against unreasonable searches or seizures by
    'deter[ring] future unlawful police conduct.' [Citation.] . . . [B]ecause the exclusionary
    rule is a 'remedial device,' its application is 'restricted to those situations in which its
    remedial purpose is effectively advanced.' " (People v. Willis (2002) 
    28 Cal. 4th 22
    , 30.)
    Thus, the remedy of the exclusionary rule is not warranted where it would " ' "not result
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    in appreciable deterrence." ' " (Ibid.) These circumstances give rise to what is commonly
    known as the "good faith exception" to the exclusionary rule. (Ibid.; see Davis v. U.S.
    (2011) ___ U.S. ___ [
    131 S. Ct. 2419
    , 2434].)
    "When considering whether to apply the good faith exception, we consider the
    objective reasonableness of both the officer who conducted the search and those who
    provided information material to the searching officer. [Citations.] We consider
    whether, in light of the source of the erroneous information, the deterrent effect of
    exclusion is sufficient to warrant imposition of that sanction. [Citations.] The
    determination of whether the application of the exclusionary rule is warranted is made on
    a case-by-case basis." (People v. Hamilton (2002) 
    102 Cal. App. 4th 1311
    , 1315.)
    Typically, when police action manifests a "deliberate," "reckless," or "grossly negligent"
    disregard for the Fourth Amendment, the deterrent value of exclusion will be strong and
    will tend to outweigh the resulting cost of exclusion. (Herring v. United States (2009)
    
    555 U.S. 135
    , 144.) Conversely, when police act with objectively reasonable good-faith
    belief that their conduct is lawful or when conduct involves only isolated negligence,
    exclusion of evidence will prove of little deterrent effect. (United States v. Leon (1984)
    
    468 U.S. 897
    , 908, fn. 6, 919.)
    B. Standard of Appellate Review
    The review of issues related to suppression of evidence is governed by federal
    constitutional standards. (Robey v. Superior Court (2013) 
    56 Cal. 4th 1218
    , 1223; see
    People v. Bradford (1997) 
    15 Cal. 4th 1229
    , 1291; Cal. Const., art. I, § 28.) Because a
    warrantless search is presumed to be unreasonable, when a defendant moves to suppress
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    evidence on grounds of an unreasonable search, the prosecution bears the burden of
    demonstrating a legal justification for the search. (People v. Suff (2014) 
    58 Cal. 4th 1013
    ,
    1053.) The prosecution therefore has the burden to prove an exigency existed. (See
    People v. Duncan (1986) 
    42 Cal. 3d 91
    , 97.) " ' "The standard of appellate review of a
    trial court's ruling on a motion to suppress is well established. We defer to the trial
    court's factual findings, express or implied, where supported by substantial evidence. In
    determining whether, on the facts so found, the search or seizure was reasonable under
    the Fourth Amendment, we exercise our independent judgment." ' " (People v. Suff, at p.
    1053.)
    When the issue is whether exigent circumstances justified a warrantless search, we
    engage in a similar two-step inquiry. First, we uphold the trial court's finding of fact as to
    what the officer knew or believed and what action he took in response if those findings
    are supported by substantial evidence. Second, we independently determine whether the
    officer's conduct was reasonable under the circumstances. (People v. 
    Duncan, supra
    , 42
    Cal.3d at p. 97.)
    C. Contentions
    Relying on 
    McNeely, supra
    , 
    133 S. Ct. 1552
    , Taylor contends the People did
    not meet their burden to show the police could not have " 'reasonably obtain[ed] a
    warrant . . . without significantly undermining the efficacy of the search . . . .' " She
    points out there was no evidence to explain why the deputy district attorney did not
    continue his efforts to seek a warrant during the 30 minutes between his initial effort and
    her blood test. She argues no evidence showed it would have been impractical or futile
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    for the district attorney to try to call the on-call judge again, and the record does not show
    he left the judge a message. According to Taylor, the judge's failure to pick up the phone
    was a "momentary delay" that did not create an exigency, and the district attorney's
    failure to take additional steps to obtain a warrant is, on its own, grounds for reversal.
    Taylor further argues Officer Rinehart's and Officer Clinkscales's inexplicable delay in
    beginning to seek a warrant after her arrest negates any possible inference of exigency.
    The People respond that evidence from the forced blood sample should not be
    suppressed because the officers directed the blood draw in good faith reliance on
    McNeely. They point out McNeely recognized that anticipated delays may arise in
    obtaining a warrant, such as here where a magistrate judge was unavailable, which could
    justify a warrantless blood draw.
    D. Analysis
    The trial court found, contrary to Taylor's argument, that the officers did not
    unreasonably prolong their investigation or create their own exigency by delaying the
    request for a search warrant. We conclude that finding is supported by substantial
    evidence. As summarized above, Officer Rinehart arrived on the scene of a multi-car
    accident. He assessed damage to each of the vehicles, interviewed the witnesses on the
    scene, and also spoke to Taylor and administered field sobriety tests. Taylor presented no
    evidence to indicate Officer Rinehart in any way prolonged his investigation
    unnecessarily or purposefully delayed requesting a warrant. Officer Clinkscales testified
    at the suppression hearing that Taylor was arrested by Rinehart at roughly 4:25 p.m.
    After her arrest, Taylor was transported to a local CHP station. Once there, Taylor was
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    advised of the implied consent rules of the California Vehicle Code which requires those
    arrested for driving under the influence to submit a sample of their blood or have his or
    her license suspended for a year. Officer Clinkscales then needed to speak to Officer
    Rinehart and get the facts of the case before attempting to secure a warrant. After
    speaking to the on-call deputy district attorney, Officer Clinkscales waited to hear back
    from the Marshall's service. Instead, at about 6:00 p.m. he heard back from the deputy
    district attorney, who stated that the magistrate judge was unavailable; that the judge did
    not pick up the phone.4 Based on his experience, Officer Clinkscales knew the court was
    closed and not due to open until the next day. Clinkscales stated he only made one
    attempt to contact the judge because that was standard procedure. Given the number of
    vehicles involved in the accident and the need to convey so much information and wait
    for a response, it cannot be said that this 90-minute delay between Taylor's arrest and the
    officer's attempt to secure a warrant was unreasonable.
    While Taylor might, with the benefit of hindsight, conjure myriad options for what
    the district attorney or officers could have further done in the 30 minutes between the
    callback and Taylor's blood draw, this is not the appropriate inquiry. The United States
    Supreme Court has explained that the inquiry is not on what could have been done but
    "whether the Fourth Amendment requires such steps; it is not our function to write a
    manual on administering routine, neutral procedures of the stationhouse. Our role is to
    4      On cross-examination, Officer Clinkscales stated that "the conversation that I had
    with [Deputy District Attorney] Mosler was he explained to me there is not going to be a
    judge available. And I said, 'Okay. Well, we need to get the blood.' "
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    assure against violations of the Constitution." (Illinois v. Lafayette (1983) 
    462 U.S. 640
    ,
    647.) Given the totality of the circumstances, including the passage of time from the
    accident, the inevitable dissipation of the alcohol in Taylor's blood, and Officer
    Clinkscales's unsuccessful effort to obtain a warrant beforehand with the understanding
    that McNeely required such an effort, it appears the exigency of the circumstances
    rendered Taylor's warrantless blood draw objectively reasonable.
    We need not, however, further analyze or resolve the question of whether Taylor's
    warrantless blood draw was reasonable and met McNeely's standards because we agree
    with the People that the blood evidence is not subject to the exclusionary rule under the
    good faith exception. (See, e.g., People v.Youn (2014) 
    229 Cal. App. 4th 571
    ; People v.
    Rossetti (2014) 
    230 Cal. App. 4th 1070
    ; People v. Jones (2014) 
    231 Cal. App. 4th 1257
    ;
    People v. Harris (2015) 
    234 Cal. App. 4th 671
    .) That is, there is no dispute in this case
    that Officer Clinkscales was aware of 
    McNeely, supra
    , 
    133 S. Ct. 1552
    and therefore took
    steps to obtain a telephonic warrant to permit a blood sample to be taken. Having
    contacted the district attorney, who in turn attempted to call the on-call magistrate judge
    who was then unavailable, and knowing that Taylor's blood alcohol level was dissipating,
    he ultimately concluded McNeely would permit the blood draw without a warrant based
    on the exigency of the circumstances. Faced with more than a three-hour passage of time
    since the accident, Officer Clinkscales ordered the administration of Taylor's blood draw.
    Clinkscales did not attempt to contact the judge again because he said that was "not
    standard procedure. If you can't get a judge, you can't get a judge."
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    We acknowledge that People v. 
    Youn, supra
    , 
    229 Cal. App. 4th 571
    , People v.
    
    Rossetti, supra
    , 
    230 Cal. App. 4th 1070
    , People v. 
    Jones, supra
    , 
    231 Cal. App. 4th 1257
    ,
    and People v. 
    Harris, supra
    , 
    234 Cal. App. 4th 671
    involve an officer's reliance on
    Schmerber v. California (1966) 
    384 U.S. 757
    , the law preceding McNeely,5 but the cases
    in our view do not limit application of the good faith exception to such circumstances. In
    Youn, the defendant in 2011 was involved in a car collision and unresponsive to potent
    sedatives. (Id. at pp. 573-574.) Seeing his behavior, a responding officer suspected he
    was on a stimulant and placed him under arrest, ordering a blood draw from defendant
    without a warrant because obtaining a warrant was not standard operating procedure at
    that time. (Id. at p. 574.) Two years later, after McNeely was decided, the court held a
    hearing on the defendant's motion to suppress evidence of his blood draw and denied the
    motion, finding the officer acted reasonably and suppression would not have a deterrent
    effect on police misconduct because the officer did not engage in any misconduct.
    (People v. Youn, 229 Cal.App.4th at pp. 574-575.)
    The Court of Appeal recognized that "[Youn's] case is governed by the rule in
    McNeeley." (People v. 
    Youn, supra
    , 229 Cal.App.4th at p. 578.) However, it affirmed
    the order without deciding whether the warrantless blood test was reasonable, pointing
    5      "Prior to McNeely, all binding judicial precedent in this state, both at the Supreme
    Court and intermediate appellate levels, consistently interpreted Schmerber to permit
    warrantless blood draws incident to a valid arrest and done in a medically approved
    manner. [Citation.] '[W]hen binding appellate precedent specifically authorizes a
    particular police practice, well-trained officers will and should use that tool to fulfill their
    crime-detection and public-safety responsibilities.' " (People v. 
    Jones, supra
    , 231
    Cal.App.4th at p. 1265.)
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    out that " 'searches conducted in objectively reasonable reliance on binding appellate
    precedent are not subject to the exclusionary rule.' " (Id. at pp. 578-579.) It held that in
    2011, the officer acted in objectively reasonable reliance on binding California precedent
    construing 
    Schmerber, supra
    , 
    384 U.S. 757
    . Thus the exclusionary rule would not be
    served by barring the admission of the warrantless blood draw because the officer acted
    in objectively reasonable reliance on binding precedent and "there was no police
    culpability." (Youn, at p. 579.)
    Here, Officer Clinkscales's understanding of McNeely—which acknowledges that
    exigency may arise due to delays in the warrant process or where a magistrate is
    unavailable—was not so entirely unreasonable as to negate his good faith. It cannot be
    said that either he or Officer Rinehart acted in an objectively unreasonable manner; that
    either acted " 'deliberately, recklessly, or with gross negligence,' " or that this " 'case
    involv[ed] any "recurring or systematic negligence" ' " on their part. (People v. 
    Harris, supra
    , 234 Cal.App.4th at p. 703, quoting Davis v. 
    U.S., supra
    , 131 S.Ct. at p. 2428.) As
    in Youn and Harris, the exclusionary rule should not apply here "[b]ecause suppression
    would do nothing to deter police misconduct in these circumstances," and because
    "searches conducted in objectively reasonable reliance on binding appellate precedent are
    not subject to the exclusionary rule." (Davis, at pp. 2423-2424.)
    To this point, Taylor argues in reply that since her blood was drawn three months
    after McNeely was decided that the good faith exception does not apply as it did in Youn,
    where the blood draw occurred before the decision. But the out-of-state authority on
    which Taylor relies—State v. Fierro (S.D. 2014) 
    853 N.W.2d 235
    —is inapposite. There,
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    the officer arrested and drew the defendant's blood four months after McNeely was
    decided, and despite the officer's new training on McNeely's effect, he did not obtain her
    consent or a warrant. (Id. at pp. 237-238.) The court there held that when an officer is
    aware of new precedent, but conducts activity in accordance with prior, contrary
    precedent, his actions cannot be objectively reasonable and suppression of the evidence
    was proper. (Id. at p. 245.) The case does not compel reversal here, where Officer
    Clinkscales sought to act in accordance with McNeely by seeking a warrant after Taylor
    refused to consent to a blood draw. McNeeley is itself "binding appellate precedent" and
    as such when Officer Clinkscales conducted a search in "objectively reasonable reliance"
    on his knowledge of McNeeley, the search is not subject to the exclusionary rule. (See
    
    Davis, supra
    , 131 S.Ct. at pp. 2423-2424.)
    II. Claim Regarding Court's Failure to Conduct a Marsden Hearing
    Taylor contends the trial court abused its discretion by failing to conduct a
    Marsden hearing when she expressed her desire to fire her counsel. She points out the
    court did not inquire about the reasons why she was dissatisfied with her lawyer, pose
    any questions in response to her request that counsel email her and "do [her] job," or
    follow up on counsel's suggestion that the court set a Marsden hearing on the day of
    Taylor's continued readiness hearing. Taylor argues the error is prejudicial because
    without a record regarding her concerns, the appellate court is unable to conclude beyond
    a reasonable doubt that the denial of the motion did not contribute to her conviction.
    The People respond that Taylor's comments did not constitute a clear and
    unambiguous Marsden request for substitute counsel. They argue her comments in
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    reference to firing her court-appointed attorney were merely frustrated outbursts that
    Taylor subsequently contradicted by asking defense counsel to send her an email and to
    do her job. The People further contend that even if Taylor's statements constituted a
    Marsden request, reversal is not warranted because any failure to hold a Marsden hearing
    was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt in that Taylor never complained below that her
    counsel's performance was inadequate, and does not contend on appeal that her counsel
    provided ineffective assistance.
    A. Legal Principles
    Criminal defendants are entitled under the state and federal Constitutions to
    assistance of counsel if they cannot employ private counsel. 
    (Marsden, supra
    , 2 Cal.3d at
    p. 123; U.S. Const., 6th Amend.; Cal. Const., art. I, § 15; Gideon v. Wainwright (1963)
    
    372 U.S. 335
    , 344-345.) That right may include the right to have counsel discharged or
    substituted if the defendant shows that the right to competent counsel " 'would be
    substantially impaired . . . in case the request is not granted . . . .' " 
    (Marsden, supra
    , 2
    Cal.3d at p. 123.) The court, however, is not required to conduct a Marsden hearing sua
    sponte. (People v. Martinez (2009) 
    47 Cal. 4th 399
    , 421.) Its duty to hold such a hearing
    arises "only when there is 'at least some clear indication by defendant,' either personally
    or through his current counsel, that defendant 'wants a substitute attorney' " because her
    counsel's performance is so inadequate as to deny her the constitutional right to effective
    counsel. (People v. Sanchez (2011) 
    53 Cal. 4th 80
    , 90; People v. Lucky (1988) 
    45 Cal. 3d 259
    , 281, fn. 8.)
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    In Marsden, the defendant stated he did not believe he was " 'getting adequately
    represented or competently represented' " and expressed his belief the " 'court's transcript
    prior to this meeting here can reveal that fact.' " 
    (Marsden, supra
    , 2 Cal.3d at p. 121.)
    When the defendant sought to proffer specific instances of misconduct, the trial court
    refused his request, telling the defendant the court did not want him to say anything that
    might prejudice him as to his case. (Id. at p. 122.) The Marsden court held it was error
    to deny defendant the opportunity to explain the basis for his claim because such a denial
    based "solely on the basis of [its] courtroom observations, despite a defendant's offer to
    relate specific instances of misconduct, abuses the exercise of [its] discretion to
    determine the competency of the attorney." (Id. at p. 124.)
    Under Marsden, when a defendant seeks substitute counsel, in order to
    thoughtfully exercise its discretion whether to discharge present counsel, a trial court is
    required to listen to a defendant's complaints about his attorney. (See People v Lewis
    (1978) 
    20 Cal. 3d 496
    , 497 [purpose of the Marsden requirement was to ensure defendant
    is "permitted to state the reasons why he believes a court-appointed counsel should be
    discharged"].) Thus, "Marsden motions are subject to the following well-established
    rules. ' " 'When a defendant seeks to discharge his appointed counsel and substitute
    another attorney, and asserts inadequate representation, the trial court must permit the
    defendant to explain the basis of his contention and to relate specific instances of the
    attorney's inadequate performance. [Citation.] A defendant is entitled to relief if the
    record clearly shows that the first appointed attorney is not providing adequate
    representation [citation] or that defendant and counsel have become embroiled in such an
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    irreconcilable conflict that ineffective representation is likely to result [citations].'
    [Citations.]" ' [Citation.] Denials of Marsden motions are reviewed under an abuse of
    discretion standard. [Citation.] Denial 'is not an abuse of discretion unless the defendant
    has shown that a failure to replace the appointed attorney would "substantially impair"
    the defendant's right to assistance of counsel.' " (People v. Barnett (1998) 
    17 Cal. 4th 1044
    , 1085-1086.)
    Following Marsden, this state's high court and other courts have held its
    requirements may be met without conducting a formal hearing. When "the basis of a
    defendant's dissatisfaction with counsel is set forth in a letter of sufficient detail, . . . a
    full-blown hearing is not required." (People v. Wharton (1991) 
    53 Cal. 3d 522
    , 580
    (Wharton); see also People v. Freeman (1994) 
    8 Cal. 4th 450
    (Freeman); People v. Terrill
    (1979) 
    98 Cal. App. 3d 291
    , 299 (Terrill).)
    In People v. 
    Wharton, supra
    , 
    53 Cal. 3d 522
    , the defendant challenged a prior
    murder conviction alleging the trial court improperly denied his motion to substitute
    counsel, thus violating his right to effective assistance of counsel. (Id. at pp. 579-580.)
    In that prior case, he had sent a detailed letter to the trial judge complaining that his
    attorney had met only briefly with him, he had not been given ample opportunity to relate
    details on several matters to his attorney, and the attorney had too many other cases to
    give the case more attention. (Id. at p. 580.) The California Supreme Court
    acknowledged that the trial court had held a hearing and acknowledged receipt of that
    letter. (Ibid.) In holding there was no Marsden error, the court stated: "When the basis
    of a defendant's dissatisfaction with counsel is set forth in a letter of sufficient detail,"
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    such that there are no more questions for the judge to ask, "a full-blown hearing is not
    required." (Ibid., citing 
    Terrill, supra
    , 98 Cal.App.3d at pp. 298-299.) The court did not
    err in proceeding without a Marsden hearing because it was aware of grounds for the
    motion and satisfied itself that defense counsel had adequately performed. (Wharton, at
    pp. 580-581.)
    In Terrill, the defendant filed a handwritten motion for substitute counsel to the
    judge. (
    Terrill, supra
    , 98 Cal.App.3d at pp. 296, 302.) He complained that his public
    defender had only met with him twice and encouraged him to accept a 15-year
    disposition for his murder charge because the jury would "fin[d] [him] guilty anyway."
    (Id. at p. 296.) Defendant wanted a new lawyer because he did not believe his attorney
    had his best intentions in mind. (Ibid.) On the date set for trial, the trial court
    acknowledged reading the letter and the overwhelming evidence against the defendant.
    (Id. at p. 297.) The trial court found it proper for counsel to attempt to explore a
    disposition because of the severity of the offense and the inculpatory evidence. (Id. at p.
    297.) The appellate court agreed, noting that the defendant's letter did not state vague
    general dissatisfaction, and was of sufficient detail such that the trial court "was fully
    apprised of the specific allegations leveled against defense counsel." (Id. at p. 299.) It
    rejected the claim that the letter showed a breakdown in the attorney-client relationship,
    observing that had that been the case, defense counsel would have joined in the motion
    and not announced he readiness for trial. (Id. at p. 301.) Given the trial court's inquiry,
    these circumstances were substantially different from those in Marsden; the defendant
    had the opportunity in his letter and in court to present specific charges and "an adequate
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    inquiry into the reasons for defendant's motion" were made. (Id. at p. 302.) Denial of the
    motion was not an abuse of discretion. (Ibid.)
    In 
    Freeman, supra
    , 
    8 Cal. 4th 450
    , the California Supreme Court once again
    concluded that the trial court was not required to hold a Marsden hearing when the
    defendant had itemized his complaints in a "self-contained document." (Id. at p. 481.) In
    Freeman, the defendant filed a formal written petition for new counsel on a form that
    permitted him to state facts that supported his request. (Ibid.) Concluding that the
    defendant already had the equivalent of a Marsden hearing, the Freeman court stated:
    "The form he used permitted him to state all reasons for the relief requested. . . . There
    was no reason for the trial court to suppose defendant withheld his reasons or supporting
    facts, or wished to state further examples of counsel's inadequate representation. He
    certainly did not 'offer to relate specific instances of misconduct.' " (Ibid.)
    B. Analysis
    Taylor interrupted proceedings twice during the December 2013 hearing
    expressing her desire to "fire" her counsel and stating, "You're fired, I'm not working well
    with you." These remarks, combined with Taylor's letter to the court in which she
    suggested she might make a Marsden request, compel us to disagree with the People's
    portrayal of Taylor's comments as merely frustrated outbursts. Such a characterization
    disregards Taylor's status as a lay person ignorant of the law or the terms of art used to
    present motions to the court. (See 
    Marsden, supra
    , 2 Cal.3d at p. 124.) Marsden made
    clear that "semantics employed by a lay person in asserting a constitutional right should
    not be given undue weight in determining the protection to be accorded that right." (Ibid;
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    see People v 
    Lucky, supra
    , 45 Cal.3d at p. 281 & fn. 8 [a trial court must hear defendant's
    reasons for dissatisfaction with his attorney "when the defendant in some manner moves
    to discharge his current counsel" and "we do not necessarily require a proper and formal
    legal motion"].) Thus, Taylor's remarks to the effect that she wanted to fire her court-
    appointed counsel should be viewed as a lay person's motion for substitute counsel.
    After inartfully making her oral motion, however, Taylor appeared to acquiesce to
    counsel's continued representation. The People suggest that Taylor abandoned her
    request for substitute counsel when she thereafter contradicted herself and asked her
    counsel to "do [her] job." We agree it is arguable that abandonment may be inferred from
    Taylor's agreement after being informed that her counsel would be meeting with the
    district attorney. (See People v. Vera (2004) 
    122 Cal. App. 4th 970
    , 981-982; People v.
    Jones (2012) 
    210 Cal. App. 4th 355
    , 361-362.) There is no indication Taylor renewed her
    request for substitute counsel before the matter proceeded to trial or at any other point.
    Taylor's Marsden claim may be rejected on that basis alone.
    We alternatively conclude that Taylor's letter and communications sufficiently
    informed the trial court about the reasons for her dissatisfaction so as to comply with
    Marsden's requirements. As stated, "at any time during criminal proceedings, if a
    defendant requests substitute counsel, the trial court is obligated, pursuant to our holding
    in Marsden, to give the defendant an opportunity to state any grounds for dissatisfaction
    with the current appointed attorney." (People v. 
    Sanchez, supra
    , 53 Cal.4th at p. 90.) A
    trial judge is unable to intelligently process such a request "unless he is cognizant of the
    grounds which prompted the request." 
    (Marsden, supra
    , 2 Cal.3d at p. 123).
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    Through her letter and in-court remarks, Taylor laid out her contentions against
    defense counsel with specificity. She sought a Marsden hearing and to fire her court-
    appointed attorney because there had been too many continuances on her readiness
    hearing; the three-year negotiated sentence was too high; and she was not working well
    with defense counsel. In her letter, Taylor listed her preferred sentences, none of which
    required any further jail time. She was dissatisfied with the three-year sentence defense
    counsel had negotiated if Taylor was interested in entering a plea. As in Terrill where the
    court reasoned it was a "reasonable tactical decision" for counsel to attempt to explore a
    disposition based on the severity of the offense (
    Terrill, supra
    , 98 Cal.App.3d at p. 297),
    defense counsel in this case acted reasonably in attempted to negotiate a plea for Taylor.
    (See also People v. Fairbank (1997) 
    16 Cal. 4th 1223
    , 1243 [guilty plea deemed
    reasonable tactical decision in light of the compelling evidence against the defendant].)
    Tactical disagreements between the defendant and his attorney do not establish an
    irreconcilable conflict so as to be sufficient cause for substitution of counsel. (People v.
    Streeter (2012) 
    54 Cal. 4th 205
    , 230-231; People v. Valdez (2004) 
    32 Cal. 4th 73
    , 95.)
    Taylor also indicated she was not working well with defense counsel. However, not
    relating well with counsel does not establish that there were irreconcilable differences nor
    does it follow that counsel's performance was ineffective. (People v. Smith (2003) 
    30 Cal. 4th 581
    , 606 [lack of trust or inability to get along with counsel is not enough to
    compel substitution].) The record does not show or suggest defense counsel's
    representation was inadequate or that there was an irreconcilable conflict that cast doubt
    on defense counsel's ability to provide adequate representation.
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    In light of Taylor's ability to proffer the facts of her dissatisfaction with defense
    counsel, we conclude the trial court was fully apprised of the reasons for her motion. The
    court met its obligations to Taylor by giving her an "opportunity to explain" and
    "document" the basis for her contentions. (People v. 
    Marsden, supra
    , 2 Cal.3d at p. 125.)
    The court did not reversibly err by not conducting a Marsden hearing because it was
    aware of the allegations made by Taylor and satisfied as to the representation provided by
    defense counsel.
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed.
    O'ROURKE, J.
    WE CONCUR:
    McINTYRE, Acting P. J.
    IRION, J.
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