People in Interest of G.B , 433 P.3d 138 ( 2018 )


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    SUMMARY
    May 31, 2018
    2018COA77
    No. 15CA1239, People in Interest of G.B. — Juvenile Court —
    Delinquency
    In this juvenile delinquency proceeding, a division of the court
    of appeals holds that the trial court committed structural error by
    excluding from two days of trial all spectators under age eighteen.
    The closure did not satisfy the four requirements laid out in Waller
    v. Georgia, 
    467 U.S. 39
    , 49 (1984).
    COLORADO COURT OF APPEALS                                      2018COA77
    Court of Appeals No. 15CA1239
    Weld County District Court No. 14JD159
    Honorable Thomas J. Quammen, Judge
    The People of the State of Colorado,
    Petitioner-Appellee,
    In the Interest of G.B.,
    Juvenile-Appellant.
    JUDGMENT REVERSED AND CASE
    REMANDED WITH DIRECTIONS
    Division III
    Opinion by JUDGE WEBB
    Richman and Fox, JJ., concur
    Announced May 31, 2018
    Cynthia H. Coffman, Attorney General, Jacob R. Lofgren, Assistant Attorney
    General, Denver, Colorado, for Petitioner-Appellee
    Douglas K. Wilson, Colorado State Public Defender, Ryann S. Hardman,
    Deputy State Public Defender, Denver, Colorado, for Juvenile-Appellant
    ¶1    In this juvenile delinquency proceeding, a jury convicted G.B.,
    age sixteen, of offenses that would, if committed by an adult,
    constitute felony sexual assault against the victim, age fifteen. The
    trial court adjudicated G.B. delinquent and sentenced him to the
    custody of the Division of Youth Corrections.
    ¶2    On appeal, he challenges the sufficiency of the evidence that
    he knew the victim was “incapable of appraising the nature of [her]
    conduct.” He also contends, among other things, that the trial
    court violated his right to a public trial by excluding, over objection,
    all spectators during his cross-examination of the sexual assault
    nurse examiner (SANE), and by excluding all spectators under age
    eighteen from a significant portion of the trial. The Attorney
    General concedes that G.B. preserved the sufficiency and the
    under-eighteen courtroom closure issues.
    ¶3    We conclude that the evidence was sufficient. Resolving a
    novel question in Colorado, we further conclude that because the
    trial court committed structural error by excluding all spectators
    under age eighteen from a significant portion of the trial, the
    judgment must be reversed. The case is remanded for a new trial.
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    Because we cannot predict whether, or if so how, G.B.’s other
    issues may arise on retrial, we decline to address them.
    I. The Prosecution Presented Sufficient Evidence for a Reasonable
    Jury to Conclude that G.B. Knew the Victim Was “Incapable of
    Appraising the Nature of [Her] Conduct”
    ¶4       We begin with this contention because if G.B. is entitled to
    reversal of his adjudication “due to insufficient evidence, the
    guarantees against double jeopardy in the United States and
    Colorado Constitutions may preclude retrial.” People v. Marciano,
    
    2014 COA 92M
    -2, ¶ 42.
    A. Background
    ¶5       According to the prosecution’s evidence, the victim decided to
    sneak out of her parents’ Greeley home. At a friend’s house, she
    contacted G.B., who was a fellow student at her high school, using
    Facebook. G.B., two other students at the high school, the older
    brother of one of them, and the victim drove to a party in Evans.
    They all drank beer and smoked marijuana.
    ¶6       The victim testified that when they left the party, she was
    having trouble walking. G.B. and one of the boys helped her to a
    car. They drove to meet Ignacio Guzman, an adult, and returned to
    the party in his four-door truck. She and G.B. stayed in the truck,
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    continuing to drink and smoke marijuana. According to the victim,
    G.B. forced her to have vaginal intercourse in the truck. The jury
    acquitted G.B. of this charge.
    ¶7     G.B., the victim, the other three boys, and Guzman left the
    party together. They continued to drink and smoke marijuana.
    Eventually, they went to Guzman’s house in Johnstown. Testimony
    concerning what happened after that was conflicting.
    ¶8     The victim testified that on arriving at Guzman’s house, she
    had trouble walking. She went into the bathroom, then rejoined the
    others in the living room. The group continued drinking and
    smoking marijuana. She was dizzy and having trouble standing up.
    ¶9     According to the victim, two of the boys were “helping move
    myself” to the bathroom. Although she was “conscious,” she felt
    that she could not do anything for herself. All the boys and
    Guzman joined her in the bathroom. She testified that Guzman
    forced her to perform oral sex on each of the boys. Then while
    someone held her hands and ankles, each of the boys and Guzman
    had vaginal intercourse with her. She told them to stop.
    ¶ 10   The victim testified further that the boys and Guzman left the
    bathroom and then returned one by one, each of them again having
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    vaginal intercourse with her. When G.B. was in the bathroom with
    her, she told him “no” and that she was in pain. Eventually, she
    cleaned up her blood from the bathroom floor, returned to the living
    room, and fell asleep.
    ¶ 11   One of the boys testified that Guzman told the victim to go to
    the bathroom, but she walked there by herself. She was “high and
    drunk.”
    ¶ 12   Guzman testified that when the group arrived at his house,
    the victim was flirting, dancing, rubbing on the boys, and appeared
    to be affected by drugs. He said that in the bathroom, she acted
    like she wanted to have sex, no one forced her to give G.B. oral sex,
    and she rejected his attempt to have anal sex. Then she suggested
    that she have sex with them one at a time.
    B. Law
    ¶ 13   An appellate court reviews the record de novo to determine if it
    includes sufficient evidence to support the convictions. People v.
    Douglas, 
    2015 COA 155
    , ¶ 8. In doing so, “we determine whether
    the evidence, viewed as a whole and in the light most favorable to
    the prosecution, is both ‘substantial and sufficient’ to support the
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    defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.” 
    Id. (quoting Dempsey
    v. People, 
    117 P.3d 800
    , 807 (Colo. 2005)).
    ¶ 14   G.B. was charged under section 18-3-402(1)(b), C.R.S. 2017,
    which provides that a person commits sexual assault if he
    “knowingly inflicts sexual intrusion or sexual penetration on a
    victim” and “knows that the victim is incapable of appraising the
    nature of the victim’s conduct.” The statute does not define
    “incapable of appraising the nature of the victim’s conduct.” But
    the supreme court has said that it “addresses the situation in which
    a victim is cognitively unable to appreciate her conduct; in other
    words, it involves a victim who simply cannot understand what she
    is doing.” Platt v. People, 
    201 P.3d 545
    , 548 (Colo. 2009).
    C. Analysis
    ¶ 15   G.B. argues that unlike many other cases involving section
    18-3-402(1)(b), here the victim “was not mentally retarded, did not
    have an extremely simplistic understanding of sexual intercourse,
    was not asleep, and was not passed out or blacked out.” G.B.
    continues that “[a]lthough [the victim] may have been intoxicated to
    some degree,” she testified that she “knew what was going on.”
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    ¶ 16   This argument, however, ignores other evidence supporting
    the adjudication. For example, the victim testified, “I felt as if I
    couldn’t do anything for myself.” She explained, “I could feel myself
    moving . . . but it was hard for me to lift, like, my arm or to be able
    to walk on my own.” She also testified that she did not remember
    certain things about that night until she started having nightmares
    and flashbacks months later. And several witnesses testified about
    the victim’s alcohol and drug use during the evening.
    ¶ 17   Our role is not to sit as a thirteenth juror and reweigh the
    evidence heard by the jury. People v. Bertrand, 
    2014 COA 142
    , ¶ 15
    (“It was within the sole province of the jury to determine the weight
    of the evidence and to resolve any conflicts and inconsistencies in
    witness testimony.”). Instead, viewing the evidence in a light most
    favorable to the prosecution, we conclude that it is sufficient to
    support a conclusion by a reasonable jury that G.B. knew the
    victim was incapable of appraising the nature of her conduct.
    II. The Trial Court Violated G.B.’s Right to a Public Trial
    ¶ 18   G.B. next contends the trial court violated his right to a public
    trial by excluding all spectators from his cross-examination of the
    SANE and all spectators under age eighteen from a significant
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    portion of the trial. He asserts that because this error is structural,
    we must reverse the adjudication and remand for a new trial. We
    conclude that exclusion of all spectators under age eighteen from a
    significant portion of the trial was a structural error that requires
    reversal. Based on this conclusion, we need not address the cross-
    examination issue.
    A. Relevant Facts
    ¶ 19   During the prosecution’s case, just before the paramedics who
    treated the victim testified, the court asked counsel, “What are they
    going to talk about?” The court explained to counsel “there[ are]
    children in here, and I will excuse them when it starts getting down
    to the nitty-gritty stuff.” Then the following discussion occurred:
    THE COURT: Do you know who these children
    are back here?
    PROSECUTOR: They’re with [G.B.], I believe.
    THE COURT: I’m going to ask them to leave. I
    don’t think it’s good for children to be listening
    to this.
    DEFENSE COUNSEL: I understand the Court’s
    position. I’ll just pose an objection on [G.B.’s]
    right to a speedy and public trial.
    THE COURT: Well, I agree with that. I have to
    also counter — I also have to balance that with
    topics that I just don’t think are in the best
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    interest of a child to hear. So I respect that.
    But I’m going to . . . ask the children — do you
    know what their ages are?
    DEFENSE COUNSEL: I don’t, Judge. I’m not
    actually sure who they are.
    THE COURT: Okay. Well . . . I’m going to ask
    that the children be excused when we have
    testimony about sexual things. I know that
    there is an objection on the basis of a public
    trial, but I’ve got to balance that. Having a
    little child hear this type of stuff, I just . . .
    think it’s harmful for a child to hear this, so
    I’m going to have them leave . . . .
    ¶ 20   The next day, the parties discussed closing the courtroom to
    the general public during the presentation of photographs of the
    victim’s genitalia. Although G.B. did not object to this narrow
    closure, he reiterated his prior objection to closing the courtroom
    and said “our objection stands there. We would still like the
    courtroom to be open and public.” After that, the trial court said:
    And I also, in this particular case, am
    excluding children from the gallery. I don’t do
    that because the Court is concerned about
    whether they are going to be talking or — that
    is not the Court’s concern. The Court’s
    concern is that it is not in the best interests of
    a young child to be hearing this type of
    evidence. And I just don’t think that it’s good
    for a child to hear this. Their parents may
    disagree, but I disagree with them if they
    disagree with me on that. So . . . I have
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    directed the courtroom bailiff from —
    excluding children from the courtroom for that
    purpose.
    The courtroom deputy asked the trial court, “Is there an age limit
    that you want me . . . .” The court responded, “No. If they are
    children under 18, then they should — probably should not be
    here.”
    ¶ 21      The record does not indicate whether the courtroom was ever
    reopened to spectators under age eighteen. The closure occurred
    on the seventh day of the trial. Further evidence was presented
    over the next two days. Counsel made closing arguments on day
    nine.
    B. Standard of Review
    ¶ 22      “A trial court’s decision to close the courtroom presents a
    mixed question of law and fact.” People v. Hassen, 
    2015 CO 49
    ,
    ¶ 5. We defer to the trial court’s findings of fact if supported by the
    record, but review its ultimate legal conclusion de novo. 
    Id. C. Law
    ¶ 23      The United States and Colorado Constitutions guarantee a
    criminal defendant the right to a public trial. U.S. Const. amends.
    VI, XIV; Colo. Const. art. II, § 16. Violation of this right is a
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    structural error requiring reversal without any showing of
    prejudice. See, e.g., Neder v. United States, 
    527 U.S. 1
    , 8 (1999);
    Waller v. Georgia, 
    467 U.S. 39
    , 49 (1984). Still, this right is not
    absolute; it may give way “to other rights or interests, such as the
    defendant’s right to a fair trial or the government’s interest in
    inhibiting disclosure of sensitive information.” 
    Waller, 467 U.S. at 45
    ; Anderson v. People, 
    176 Colo. 224
    , 226, 
    490 P.2d 47
    , 48 (1971).
    ¶ 24   To close a courtroom without violating a defendant’s public
    trial right, four requirements must be met. First, “the party seeking
    to close the [proceeding] must advance an overriding interest that is
    likely to be prejudiced.” Hassen, ¶ 9 (quoting 
    Waller, 467 U.S. at 48
    ). Second, “the closure must be no broader than necessary to
    protect that interest.” Id. (quoting 
    Waller, 467 U.S. at 48
    ). Third,
    “the trial court must consider reasonable alternatives to closing the
    proceeding.” Id. (quoting 
    Waller, 467 U.S. at 48
    ). And fourth, the
    trial court “must make findings adequate to support the closure.”
    Id. (quoting 
    Waller, 467 U.S. at 48
    ).
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    D. Analysis
    1. The First Waller Requirement — Overriding Interest
    ¶ 25   The trial court closed the courtroom to spectators under age
    eighteen because it was “not in the best interests of a young child to
    be hearing this type of evidence.” G.B. argues that under Waller,
    this reason did not constitute an “overriding interest.”
    ¶ 26   G.B. relies on Thompson v. People, 
    156 Colo. 416
    , 426-27, 
    399 P.2d 776
    , 781-82 (1965), where our supreme court said:
    [W]hatever may have been the view in an
    earlier and more formally modest age, we think
    that the franker and more realistic attitude of
    the present day toward matters of sex
    precludes a determination that all members of
    the public, the mature and experienced as well
    as the immature and impressionable, may
    reasonably be excluded from the trial of a
    sexual offense upon the ground of public
    morals.
    Although Thompson referred to the “immature and
    impressionable,” the closure there involved all of the general public
    — not just children. 
    Id. So, while
    we must follow the decisions of
    our supreme court, Thompson does not resolve the issue before us.
    ¶ 27   And unlike in Thompson, courts in other jurisdictions have
    recognized “[i]t is everywhere conceded that minors deserve special
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    consideration and may be excluded from the courtroom in trials of a
    salacious nature.” State v. Schmit, 
    139 N.W.2d 800
    , 804 (Minn.
    1966); see also Marshall v. State, 
    258 N.E.2d 628
    , 630 (Ind. 1970)
    (“In the trial for a sex offense . . . many courts have held that,
    because of the nature of the offense and the type of evidence which
    will be elicited, youthful spectators may be excluded.”); 6 Wayne R.
    LaFave et al., Criminal Procedure § 24.1(b), Westlaw (4th ed.
    database updated Dec. 2017) (“Earlier cases took the view that in
    the trial of sex offenses the general public, or at least youthful
    spectators, could be excluded from the courtroom to protect public
    morals.”).
    ¶ 28   In disputing whether an overriding interest is at stake, the
    Attorney General urges us to follow the standard mentioned in
    People v. Whitman, 
    205 P.3d 371
    , 379 (Colo. App. 2007), that where
    “the courtroom is only partially closed to the public” — as here —
    “there need only be a ‘“substantial” interest, rather than a
    “compelling” one.’” 
    Id. (quoting United
    States v. Galloway, 
    937 F.2d 542
    , 546 (10th Cir. 1991)). According to the Attorney General,
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    excluding children from the courtroom based on age-inappropriate
    evidence constitutes at least a substantial interest.1
    ¶ 29   G.B. responds that excluding such spectators does not
    constitute even a substantial interest. He points out that children
    under age eighteen may consent to sexual conduct under section
    18-3-402(1)(e).
    ¶ 30   Be that as it may, no Colorado court has embraced the
    substantial interest standard for partial closures. See 
    Whitman, 205 P.3d at 379
    (explaining that the reason for the closure “satisfies
    either the overriding or substantial interest standards”). The
    Supreme Court has not addressed this question and other
    jurisdictions are divided. Compare 
    Galloway, 937 F.2d at 546
    (“[A]
    different standard applies where the courtroom is only partially
    closed to the public . . . .”), with People v. Jones, 
    750 N.E.2d 524
    ,
    529 (N.Y. 2001) (“We believe that there is no need to adopt such an
    articulation of the Waller standard since Waller already
    1 In arguing that a substantial interest exists, the Attorney General
    relies on section 19-1-106(2), C.R.S. 2017, and section 19-2-110,
    C.R.S. 2017, both of which allow the closing of a juvenile trial if it is
    in the best interests of the juvenile or the community. But here the
    trial court’s findings focused on the interests of “child attendees” at
    trial, not the best interests of G.B. or the community.
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    contemplates a balancing of competing interests in closure
    decisions.”).
    ¶ 31   On this record, we need not decide whether the substantial
    interest standard applies. See Developmental Pathways v. Ritter,
    
    178 P.3d 524
    , 535 (Colo. 2008) (“[T]he principle of judicial restraint
    requires us to ‘avoid reaching constitutional questions in advance of
    the necessity of deciding them.’” (quoting Lyng v. Nw. Indian
    Cemetery Protective Ass’n, 
    485 U.S. 439
    , 445 (1988))). Regardless
    of whether excluding children is a compelling interest, only a
    substantial interest, or something less, the trial court’s closure did
    not satisfy the second and third Waller requirements.2 See United
    States v. Simmons, 
    797 F.3d 409
    , 414 (6th Cir. 2015) (Courts “that
    have distinguished between partial closures and total closures
    modify the Waller test so that the ‘overriding interest’ requirement is
    replaced by requiring a showing of a ‘substantial reason’ for a
    partial closure, but the other three factors remain the same.”)
    (emphasis added); see also Presley v. Georgia, 
    558 U.S. 209
    , 216
    (2010) (per curiam) (“[E]ven assuming, arguendo, that the trial
    2 The Attorney General does not dispute that even under the
    substantial interest standard, the remaining three Waller
    requirements must still be met.
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    court had an overriding interest in closing [the courtroom], it was
    still incumbent upon it to consider all reasonable alternatives to
    closure. It did not, and that is all this Court needs to decide.”).
    2. The Second Waller Requirement — No Broader Than Necessary
    ¶ 32   G.B. argues that closing the courtroom to all spectators under
    age eighteen was broader than necessary. We agree.
    ¶ 33   Under Waller, a courtroom closure may not be any broader
    than necessary to protect the overriding interest. In other words,
    the closure must strike “‘a careful balance of interests’ that results
    in the exclusion of only those persons” necessary to protect the
    overriding interest. State v. Hood, 
    320 P.3d 522
    , 526 (N.M. Ct. App.
    2014) (quoting State v. Turrietta, 
    308 P.3d 964
    , 972 (N.M. 2013)).
    ¶ 34   Under this requirement, some courts addressing courtroom
    closures excluding all children have warned that such an “approach
    may be carried too far.” 
    Marshall, 258 N.E.2d at 630
    . Reynolds v.
    State, 
    126 So. 2d 497
    (Ala. Ct. App. 1961), is illustrative.
    ¶ 35   There, the court held that because excluding from the
    courtroom all children under age eighteen went beyond excluding
    merely “children of tender age,” the closure violated the defendant’s
    right to public trial. 
    Id. at 498.
    The court explained:
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    [W]e do not think that the exclusion of
    “children of tender age” can be deemed to
    include persons of the ages excluded from the
    trial by the court below, that is, “children of
    eighteen years or less.” Persons of eighteen
    years of age can hardly be deemed children of
    “tender age.” Males of that age are subject to
    military service. In some states persons of
    that age can vote. In this State a female of
    eighteen years of age may marry without her
    parent’s consent.
    Id.; see also McConnaughey v. United States, 
    804 A.2d 334
    , 342
    n.10 (D.C. 2002) (“A barring of all children, rather than a select few,
    might present a closer constitutional question . . . .”).
    ¶ 36   In contrast, where a trial court imposes a narrow closure
    related to only young children, the public trial right is not violated.
    See Covington v. Lord, 
    275 F. Supp. 2d 352
    , 358 (E.D.N.Y. 2003) (A
    trial court’s exclusion of one “young boy from a murder trial did not
    infringe any of the core values that the public trial right protects.”),
    aff’d, 111 F. App’x 647 (2d Cir. 2004); see also Davis v. Walsh, No.
    CV 08-4659(PKC), 
    2015 WL 1809048
    , at *8 (E.D.N.Y. Apr. 21, 2015)
    (“Only the [four-year-old] child was excluded, so the closure was no
    broader than necessary.”).
    ¶ 37   Recall that here the courtroom closure was based on the trial
    court’s desire to prevent “a young child [from] hearing this type of
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    evidence.” Yet, the closure went well beyond “a young child” and
    excluded all spectators under age eighteen. Such a broad closure
    was especially problematic given the ages of G.B., the victim, and
    many trial witnesses, all of whom were under age eighteen.
    ¶ 38   The trial court’s closure could have prevented peers of G.B.
    and the victim from attending the trial, undermining two goals
    served by the public trial right: to encourage witnesses to come
    forward and to discourage perjury. Hassen, ¶ 15; see Gannett Co.
    v. DePasquale, 
    443 U.S. 368
    , 383 (1979) (“Openness in court
    proceedings may improve the quality of testimony, induce unknown
    witnesses to come forward with relevant testimony, [and] cause all
    trial participants to perform their duties more conscientiously
    . . . .”). In contrast, young children would not have had a similar
    interest in the proceeding. See Sobin v. United States, 
    606 A.2d 1029
    , 1033-34 (D.C. 1992) (Excluding “two children of tender years
    . . . in no way undermined the public policy goals identified above
    which are advanced by the requirement that criminal proceedings
    be open.”).
    ¶ 39   For these reasons, we conclude that closing the courtroom to
    all spectators under age eighteen — for the remainder of the trial —
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    was broader than necessary to achieve the trial court’s legitimate
    interest in protecting young children from exposure to
    age-inappropriate evidence. This conclusion brings us to whether
    the trial court considered any reasonable alternatives.
    3. The Third Waller Requirement — Reasonable Alternatives
    ¶ 40    G.B. argues that the trial court failed to consider reasonable
    alternatives when it closed the courtroom to all spectators under
    age eighteen. Again, we agree.
    ¶ 41    Under Waller, the trial court was required to consider
    reasonable alternatives to the closure “even when they are not
    offered by the parties.” 
    Presley, 558 U.S. at 214
    ; see
    Commonwealth v. Maldonado, 
    2 N.E.3d 145
    , 151 (Mass. 2014)
    (“Before ordering any closure of a court room, whether full or
    partial, a judge ‘must consider reasonable alternatives to closing the
    proceeding . . . .’” (quoting 
    Waller, 467 U.S. at 48
    )). This is so
    because “[t]rial courts are obligated to take every reasonable
    measure to accommodate public attendance at criminal trials.”
    
    Presley, 558 U.S. at 215
    .
    ¶ 42    The Attorney General responds that the court must have
    considered reasonable alternatives because it only ordered a partial
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    closure of the courtroom rather than a total closure (other than as
    to cross-examination of the SANE), and only during part rather
    than all of the trial. This response misses the mark in two ways.
    ¶ 43   First, the record does not show that the trial court considered
    any alternatives to the exclusion of all spectators under age
    eighteen. See People v. Richards, 
    795 P.2d 1343
    , 1346 (Colo. App.
    1989) (“In this case, there is no indication in the record that the
    court adequately considered all of these factors. Of particular
    importance is the fact that the trial court failed to consider the
    other reasonable and less drastic alternatives available . . . .”).
    ¶ 44   Second, even if “instituting a partial closure might, in some
    cases, satisfy a court’s obligation to consider reasonable
    alternatives, it might not satisfy that obligation in other situations.”
    State v. Tucker, 
    290 P.3d 1248
    , 1258 (Ariz. Ct. App. 2012).
    Specifically, “if the partial closure under consideration is not
    sufficiently limited to comply with Waller’s second requirement, the
    court must consider other alternatives.” 
    Id. And as
    we have
    concluded above, the closure was not narrowly tailored.
    ¶ 45   For example, G.B. asserts that “[i]f the court was concerned
    about young children hearing the evidence, [it] could have
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    considered excluding only children under [age] twelve or thirteen.”
    After all, “[c]hildren today are more ‘streetwise’ and knowledgeable
    than children were even a few decades ago.” Belcher v. Charleston
    Area Med. Ctr., 
    422 S.E.2d 827
    , 837 n.12 (W. Va. 1992) (citation
    omitted). The court could have considered an exception for
    spectators who were identified as G.B.’s relatives, regardless of their
    ages. See People v. Richardson, 
    744 N.Y.S.2d 407
    , 407 (N.Y. App.
    Div. 2002) (“The trial court’s exclusion of defendant’s children, ages
    eight and nine, from the courtroom violated defendant’s right to a
    public trial . . . .”). And it could have exempted from the exclusion
    persons under age eighteen who were students in the high school
    that G.B. and the victim attended, a community that had a
    particular “interest in seeing that offenders are brought to account.”
    United States v. Cojab, 
    996 F.2d 1404
    , 1407 (2d Cir. 1993); see also
    In re J.R.L., 
    738 S.E.2d 144
    , 148 (Ga. Ct. App. 2013) (recognizing
    “the community’s need for a full and public trial”).
    ¶ 46   Because the trial court did not expressly consider any of these
    less drastic alternatives, the court failed to meet the third Waller
    requirement.
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    ¶ 47   In the end, based on the second and third Waller
    requirements, we conclude that the trial court erred in closing the
    courtroom to all spectators under age eighteen. In saying this
    much, we take care to explain what we do not mean to say. Trial
    courts have a legitimate concern in protecting young children from
    exposure to salacious evidence that is potentially disturbing to
    them. But balancing that concern against the public trial right
    based on a bright-line test of excluding all spectators under age
    eighteen will rarely survive constitutional scrutiny.
    4. Remedy
    ¶ 48   The Attorney General asserts that even if the trial court failed
    to satisfy one or more of the Waller requirements, “to the extent that
    it is not clear how long the children were excluded for, this Court
    may remand for any perceived deficiency in the record rather than
    reversing under structural error.” We decline to remand.
    ¶ 49   Only one Colorado case has remanded for findings on this
    issue. People v. Thomas, 
    832 P.2d 990
    , 993 (Colo. App. 1991). In
    Thomas, whether closure even occurred was unclear, and if it did,
    the closure may have been so “momentary and fleeting” as to be de
    minimis. 
    Id. 21 ¶
    50   Unlike in Thomas, here the record is clear that the closure was
    neither momentary nor fleeting. The trial court told the parties that
    it was excluding spectators under age eighteen two days before
    closing arguments. See Hassen, ¶ 16 (“Given that the testimony of
    the two undercover officers totaled roughly twenty-seven pages in
    the trial transcript, we cannot conclude that the multiple closures
    were ‘extremely short.’”).
    ¶ 51   Nor was G.B. required to prove that specific spectators under
    age eighteen attempted to enter the courtroom after the trial court’s
    order, but were excluded. See Lilly v. State, 
    365 S.W.3d 321
    , 331
    (Tex. Crim. App. 2012) (“When determining whether a defendant
    has proved that his trial was closed to the public, the focus is not
    on whether the defendant can show that someone was actually
    excluded. Rather, a reviewing court must look to the totality of the
    evidence and determine whether the trial court fulfilled its
    obligation ‘to take every reasonable measure to accommodate public
    attendance at criminal trials.’” (quoting 
    Presley, 558 U.S. at 215
    )).
    ¶ 52   As well, remand would waste judicial resources. By any fair
    account, the closure was not narrowly tailored. The trial court
    could not now find otherwise. Nor did the trial court even consider
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    any alternatives. So, whatever alternatives the court might
    belatedly recognize on remand would not shore up its earlier
    decision. See Smith v. State, 
    213 So. 3d 327
    , 338 n.2 (Ala. Crim.
    App. 2011) (“Although an appellate court may, in some
    circumstances, remand a cause . . . to supplement the record with
    specific findings in compliance with Waller, such a remand is not
    necessary in this case.”).
    III. Conclusion
    ¶ 53       The judgment is reversed and the case is remanded for a new
    trial.
    JUDGE RICHMAN and JUDGE FOX concur.
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