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    DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA COURT OF APPEALS
    No. 19-CO-0589
    MARIO MAYE, APPELLANT,
    V.
    UNITED STATES, APPELLEE.
    Appeal from the Superior Court
    of the District of Columbia
    (CF2-616-13)
    (Hon. Patricia A. Broderick, Trial Judge)
    (Submitted September 22, 2020                            Decided October 7, 2021)
    Monica J. Milton was on the brief for appellant.
    Timothy J. Shea, United States Attorney at the time the brief was filed, with
    whom Elizabeth Trosman, Chrisellen R. Kolb, Christine Macey, and Mark Hobel,
    Assistant United States Attorneys, were on the brief, for appellee.
    Before EASTERLY, MCLEESE, and DEAHL, Associate Judges.
    DEAHL, Associate Judge: Mario Maye and a group of about seven friends, a
    mix of males and females, were gathered outside one evening when a police vehicle
    pulled up and parked near the group. Two officers, who had not observed any illegal
    activity and were not responding to any report, exited the vehicle. Officer Sean
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    Kenney’s focus immediately turned to Maye because he was doing something with
    his waistband and then placed his hand into his pants pocket where a “typical folding
    pocketknife” was clipped.      There are some unresolved questions about what
    happened next, but ultimately Officer Kenney approached Maye, asked him to take
    his hand out of his pocket, and then asked if he could search him. Maye agreed and
    the officer found cocaine in his waistband during the search. Maye moved to
    suppress the narcotics, arguing he had been illegally seized in violation of his Fourth
    Amendment rights before purportedly consenting to the search. The court denied
    the motion, finding Maye had voluntarily consented to the search, but without
    addressing Maye’s contention that his consent was the fruit of an illegal seizure. A
    jury then found Maye guilty of possession with intent to distribute cocaine.
    Maye appealed, maintaining that his Fourth Amendment rights were violated
    because any consent to the search was the byproduct of an illegal seizure. We did
    not resolve that question in an earlier appeal, instead remanding the case because we
    were “unable to ascertain, on th[at] record, what specific testimony the trial court
    credited.” Maye v. United States, No. 13-CF-1271, Mem. Op. & J. at 4 (D.C. July
    15, 2015).    We instructed the trial court, on remand, to make a “clearer
    determination” about “whether [Maye]’s consent was voluntary, [or] whether it was
    the product of an illegal seizure.” Id. On remand, the trial court issued a written
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    order finding “police officers obtained consent to search [Maye] during a lawful
    Terry stop” because they had reasonable articulable suspicion to seize him. Maye
    now appeals again, raising the same core Fourth Amendment claim.
    We agree with Maye that, if he was seized, that seizure was unlawful and the
    trial court erred in concluding it was supported by reasonable articulable suspicion.
    Any consent he offered while unlawfully seized would “not [be] free from the taint
    of unlawful detention” under these circumstances, and would thus be “insufficient
    to show consent.” Jones v. United States, 
    154 A.3d 591
    , 598 n.20 (D.C. 2017).
    The government nonetheless asks us to affirm on the ground that Maye was
    not seized, contrary to the trial court’s repeated statements that his consent came
    amidst a lawful Terry stop. Unfortunately, we once again find ourselves without
    findings critical to assessing that question. The trial court focused its findings on
    whether it was reasonable to seize Maye and whether Maye voluntarily consented to
    a search regardless of whether he was seized. But it never focused on the related
    and we think dispositive question of whether Maye was seized at the moment of his
    purported consent. For instance, while the court stressed that Ronald Hall—Maye’s
    friend at the scene—testified to facts that “did not materially contradict the officers’
    testimony,” his testimony did diverge from the officers’ in respects critical to
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    assessing when Maye was seized. Because further factual findings are potentially
    dispositive as to whether Maye was seized when he agreed to be searched, we
    remand the case for further findings.
    I.
    Maye was arrested and indicted for possession with intent to distribute a
    controlled substance after officers discovered cocaine in his waistband. He moved
    to suppress the drugs found on him during a pat-down search preceding his arrest,
    and the trial court held an evidentiary hearing on that suppression motion.
    The government presented testimony from Officers Sean Kenney and
    Matthew Jones at the suppression hearing. Each testified that on January 10, 2013,
    at around 7:15 p.m., they were on routine patrol in a marked police vehicle in the
    District of Columbia’s Sixth District. They came to the 800 block of 51st Street SE,
    which they described as a high-crime area known for guns and narcotics-related
    offenses. Officer Jones testified that “we’ve come into contact with multiple
    individuals in that block with weapons and narcotics,” and that just one week prior
    to testifying, he arrested someone on that same block with four PCP-dipped
    cigarettes. Officer Kenney more generally described the entire Sixth District—save
    for a “couple of little streets here and there maybe” and a park “where it might not
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    be as high as other areas”—as a high-crime area. On that block they saw a group of
    about eight people, mostly males with a couple of females, standing near a car parked
    alongside the curb. While the group was not “doing anything that appeared to be
    illegal,” the officers—both in full police uniform—pulled up near the group and
    parked their car to initiate a “citizen encounter.” They did not activate their patrol
    car’s siren or emergency lights.
    Officer Kenney’s focus immediately turned to Maye because he—while
    facing Officer Kenney and without “trying to hide” what he was doing—
    “manipulat[ed] his waistband” with his right hand. Maye then put that same hand
    in his right pants pocket. Officer Kenney approached Maye and noticed what he
    identified as a “typical folding pocket knife” clipped inside of that same pocket,
    though he did not “feel threatened” by it or suspect the knife was illegal in any
    respect. He described it as “a silver knife with a silver clip,” “[l]ike the clip on the
    back of a pen,” though the body of the knife was “in [Maye’s] pocket” so it is unclear
    how much beyond the clip Officer Kenney was able to see. There was no further
    description of the knife—Officer Jones had no recollection of a knife, Hall testified
    that he did not see Maye with a knife, and Maye disclaimed having one. Officer
    Kenney did not otherwise “see anything bulge wise” or observe anything “to suggest
    that [Maye] was breaking the law,” and he did not disagree that Maye might “have
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    been adjusting” the belt he was wearing when manipulating his waistband.
    Nonetheless, based on the “movements [Maye] was making with his hand,” Officer
    Kenney testified he was “concerned with the fact that there might be a gun in
    [Maye’s] waistband.”
    Officer Kenney asked Maye if he could “speak to him for a minute,” and Maye
    responded with “something to the effect of, sure, what’s up?” Officer Kenney then
    said, “while I’m speaking with you, would you mind taking your hand out of your
    pocket,” and Maye complied. He next asked: “[W]hile I’m speaking with you, do
    you mind if I pat you down for officer safety for any weapons?”, and Maye replied,
    “sure, that’s fine.” Maye then placed his hands on the trunk of the nearby car, and
    Officer Kenney “immediately went to the area of his waistband” as he started the
    pat-down search. Officer Kenney “felt a bulge” that he “immediately recognized to
    be narcotics.” He then reached into Maye’s waistband and removed a “clear plastic
    bag that contained 55 smaller [bags], each of which contained a rock-like substance”
    later confirmed to be cocaine. Officer Kenney could not recall if he removed the
    pocketknife during the pat-down, noting only that he “didn’t seize it as evidence or
    anything like that,” but that it was certainly removed at some point and perhaps given
    to one of Maye’s friends at the scene.
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    Maye and Hall testified to a very different version of the encounter. Maye
    testified that the officers “pulled up,” “got out of the[ir] car,” asked if anyone in the
    group had weapons, instructed “everybody [to] put [their] hands on the car,” and
    then “immediately” handcuffed him before he was searched. He went into more
    detail, but the trial court generally did not credit Maye—and specifically discredited
    his claim, echoed by Hall, that he was handcuffed before being searched—so we
    turn to Hall’s account, which the court found more credible.
    Hall testified that he was hanging out with a group of about seven friends
    when two officers “rode up,” “proceeded to get out of [their patrol] car,” and asked
    “who lives here?” Officer Kenney went immediately to Maye and grabbed him,
    while at about the same time Officer Jones directed the rest of the group to put their
    hands on the car. Hall at times described this as a command and at times as a request,
    once recounting Officer Jones saying to the group, “we going to need you to put
    your hands on the car,” and later phrasing it as, “can you get up and put your hands
    on the car?” Hall was then questioned by Officer Jones, but he was still able to hear
    and see Maye’s interactions with Officer Kenney. He was unsure if Officer Kenney
    ever asked Maye for permission to conduct a search.
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    At the conclusion of the hearing, the trial court orally denied Maye’s
    suppression motion. The entirety of that initial ruling is as follows:
    Listening to all the testimony, I do find that I credit Officer
    Kenney. I’m not overly impressed with Officer Jones.
    Mr. Hall was credible, too, but inconsistent, really, in the
    details that he was able to provide, but he didn’t provide a
    lot of details.
    I find that Officer Kenney and Officer Jones were more
    consistent with each other than Mr. Hall and Mr. Maye.
    For that reason, I do give more credit to Officer Kenney
    and I do find that there was consent in this case. So I’ll
    deny the motion.
    The case then proceeded to trial and a jury found Maye guilty of possession with
    intent to distribute cocaine.
    Maye appealed, reasserting his Fourth Amendment claim and contending that
    the trial court erred in a variety of ways when denying his suppression motion. We
    did not resolve most of his legal arguments in that initial appeal because we
    determined that the trial court’s findings were insufficient to permit meaningful
    appellate review. Maye, Mem. Op. & J. at 3-4. We noted that the trial court “made
    no findings on critical issues such as the voluntariness of [Maye’s] consent, the point
    at which he was seized, whether that seizure was lawful, when consent was given in
    relation to his seizure, and whether seizing the package of drugs from inside
    [Maye’s] pants exceeded the scope of the consent.” Id. at 4. We also explained that
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    it was not possible to ascertain “what specific testimony the trial court credited in
    deciding ‘there was consent in this case’” because the trial court found both Officer
    Kenney and Hall credible, and their testimonies “greatly differed.” Id.
    On remand, the trial court issued a written order once again denying Maye’s
    suppression motion. It articulated two bases—which it treated as independent
    bases—for its ruling. It first found the officers had reasonable articulable suspicion
    as necessary to seize Maye and conduct a pat-down search of his waistband under
    Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
     (1968), rendering his consent, or lack thereof, immaterial.
    The court relied on the following findings as support for that conclusion: (i) “seven
    or eight individuals [were] standing within [a] ‘high crime area’ surrounding a
    parked car,” (ii) Maye made “furtive gestures” near his waistband and pants pocket,
    and (iii) Officer Kenney observed a pocketknife clipped to Maye’s pants pocket,
    which the trial court thought “carr[ied] with it an indici[um] of wrongdoing.” The
    trial court also concluded that the pocketknife gave officers specific reason to believe
    Maye was armed and dangerous.
    The court further found, ostensibly in the alternative, that Maye voluntarily
    consented to the pat-down because he “responded affirmatively” to a “simple,
    straightforward question,” and the “undisputed” facts showed that Officer Kenney
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    “did not engage in any behavior that could be construed as over-bearing or coercive.”
    It noted that although the officers were in “police uniform,” they “did not have the
    emergency equipment activated,” “walked casually toward the group . . . without
    weapons drawn, and asked conversationally what was going on.” The court did not
    make a finding as to whether the officers directed everyone in the group to place
    their hands on a nearby car, as Hall had testified, though it stressed that Hall’s
    testimony “mostly . . . did not materially contradict the officers’ testimony.” Finally,
    the trial court determined that the search of Maye exceeded neither the scope of a
    valid Terry search nor the scope of his consent. It thus again denied Maye’s motion
    to suppress.
    II.
    Maye now argues (1) there was not reasonable articulable suspicion sufficient
    to justify his seizure and pat-down search of his waistband, and (2) his purported
    consent to the pat-down was tainted by his illegal seizure. We agree with Maye on
    the first point and, if he was in fact seized, we would agree with him on the second
    as well. As to the first point, there is nothing suspicious about gathering with a small
    group of friends outside at around 7:15 in the evening, and Maye’s hand movements
    as recounted by Officer Kenney were innocuous.            Having a “typical folding
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    pocketknife” clipped inside of his pants pocket does not add much to the equation.
    Officer Kenney had no suspicion of the knife’s illegality, and the presence of a legal
    pocketknife did not give rise to a reasonable suspicion that Maye was engaged in
    criminal activity in these circumstances.
    Whether Maye was seized before agreeing to a search, which the government
    disputes, is a harder question that we again cannot answer on the record before us.
    There are discrepancies in the testimony that the trial court did not resolve—
    including that we cannot tell if the trial court credited Hall’s account that the officers
    directed the entire group of friends to put their hands on the car and that everybody
    complied. Whether that is true is a potentially dispositive factor in determining
    whether Maye was seized, i.e., whether a reasonable person in his shoes would have
    felt “free to . . . terminate the encounter” with the officers and go about his way.
    Sharp v. United States, 
    132 A.3d 161
    , 166 (D.C. 2016) (quoting Florida v. Bostick,
    
    501 U.S. 429
    , 439 (1991)). We thus remand for further factual determinations
    relevant to whether Maye was in fact seized when he agreed to a search. If he was,
    that seizure was in violation of the Fourth Amendment, thus obviating any purported
    consent, and the court should vacate Maye’s conviction.
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    A.
    We begin with the trial court’s ruling that the officers had the reasonable
    articulable suspicion required for an investigatory seizure and a protective pat-down
    search of Maye. Consistent with the Fourth Amendment’s protections “against
    unreasonable searches and seizures,” it is settled that a police officer “may conduct
    a brief stop (a seizure) ‘for investigatory purposes’ when he has ‘reasonable
    suspicion supported by specific and articulable facts that the individual is involved
    in criminal activity.’” Pridgen v. United States, 
    134 A.3d 297
    , 301 (D.C. 2016)
    (quoting Robinson v. United States, 
    76 A.3d 329
    , 335-36 (D.C. 2013)). “And if, in
    the course of that stop, the officer” further “has reasonable, articulable suspicion that
    the person detained is armed and dangerous, [the] officer may also conduct a
    protective frisk for weapons.” Robinson, 
    76 A.3d at 336
     (quoting Henson v. United
    States, 
    55 A.3d 859
    , 867 (D.C. 2012)) (quotation marks omitted). This type of brief
    seizure and pat-down is sometimes referred to as a Terry stop and frisk. See Terry
    v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
     (1968).
    The reasonable articulable suspicion standard is neither onerous nor toothless.
    Robinson, 
    76 A.3d at 336
    . It requires “at least a minimal level of objective
    justification”—a “less demanding standard than probable cause,” but one that is not
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    satisfied by a mere “inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or hunch” of criminal
    activity. Illinois v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 123-24 (2000) (quoting Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 27
    ) (quotation marks omitted). In other words, “a ‘gut’ feeling . . . will not do.”
    Brown v. United States, 
    590 A.2d 1008
    , 1014 (D.C. 1991). Nor will conclusory
    explanations devoid of particularized facts, especially where “the behavior of [the]
    suspect is capable of ‘too many innocent explanations.’” Duhart v. United States,
    
    589 A.2d 895
    , 899 (D.C. 1991) (quoting United States v. Barnes, 
    496 A.2d 1040
    ,
    1043 (D.C. 1985)); see also Hawkins v. United States, 
    248 A.3d 125
    , 131 (D.C.
    2021). Whether reasonable articulable suspicion exists is a mixed question of law
    and fact. Umanzor v. United States, 
    803 A.2d 983
    , 991 (D.C. 2002). “[W]e defer
    to the trial court’s factual findings unless clearly erroneous, and make an
    independent legal assessment as to whether there was reasonable suspicion for the
    stop.” 
    Id.
    The government argues, as the trial court found, that Officer Kenney had
    reasonable suspicion that Maye was engaged in illegal activity based on (i) his hand
    movements, (ii) his presence in a high-crime area, and (iii) the pocketknife clipped
    to his pants. “[W]e view the evidence presented at the suppression hearing in the
    light most favorable to the prevailing party and draw all reasonable inferences in that
    party’s favor.” Johnson v. United States, 
    253 A.3d 1050
    , 1056 (D.C. 2021).
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    Considering these factors collectively, and drawing reasonable inferences in the
    government’s favor, they fall short of the reasonable articulable suspicion necessary
    to justify a Terry stop.
    1. Maye’s Hand Movements Plus the High Crime Area
    Officer Kenney testified that he “saw [Maye] with his hand doing something
    in his waistband” as if “he appeared to be manipulating something,” and then put the
    same hand “in[to] his right front pant pocket.”       There is nothing particularly
    suspicious about adjusting or manipulating one’s waistband in itself, an action
    perfectly consistent with “too many innocent explanations.” Duhart, 
    589 A.2d at 899
     (citation omitted); see also In re A.S., 
    827 A.2d 46
    , 47-48 (D.C. 2003) (no
    reasonable articulable suspicion when officer observed an ambiguous “stuffing
    motion with [individual’s] right hand into the waistband area”). For example, Maye
    could have simply been hiking up his pants, resetting his underwear, or adjusting his
    belt—a possibility expressly put to Officer Kenney at the suppression hearing, and
    which he could not discount. And “[p]utting one’s hands in one’s pockets . . . is a
    universal action which [can] hardly be called suspicious.” In re D.J., 
    532 A.2d 138
    ,
    142-43 (D.C. 1987) (abrogated on other grounds).
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    So we next consider what more is offered here to “fill the ‘logical gap’
    between [Maye’s] hand motions and the suspicion that he might be” engaged in
    criminal conduct. Robinson, 
    76 A.3d at 338
    . Many of the more typical “gap
    fillers”—which our cases have sometimes noted in the seizure context, and at other
    times in the frisk context 1—are absent. There was no “bulge” in Maye’s waistband. 2
    His hand gestures were not so peculiar as to suggest he was harboring something
    illegal. 3 The officers were “not responding to a report of criminal activity” or
    1
    We draw from both strands of cases because there is no real daylight between
    the reasonable suspicion to seize and reasonable suspicion to frisk inquiries here.
    The only theory of criminal wrongdoing that Officer Kenney suggested he had
    suspicion of—and the only one the government now advances—is that Maye’s
    possession of a pocketknife and waistband adjustments suggested he had an illegal
    firearm. If that suspicion were founded, it would seem to provide cause for both a
    seizure and a pat-down search.
    2
    See United States v. Bellamy, 
    619 A.2d 515
    , 524 (D.C. 1993) (factor
    counseling against reasonable suspicion where officers did not “see any physical
    sign of a concealed weapon, such as a bulge in one of the appellees’ clothing”);
    Robinson, 
    76 A.3d at 337
     (stating there was no “testimony that [appellant] held any
    object or had any ‘bulge’ on his person that required concealing”); Hawkins, 248
    A.3d at 131 (“officer did not claim to have seen a telltale bulge or any part of a
    weapon”).
    3
    See, e.g., Pridgen, 134 A.3d at 304 (noting appellant’s holding of his side as
    he ran, suggesting he possessed a gun); Singleton v. United States, 
    998 A.2d 295
    ,
    302 (D.C. 2010) (noting “appellant’s awkward walk and hand movement that
    seemed to be protective of a firearm secreted in the pocket”); Morgan v. United
    States, 
    121 A.3d 1235
    , 1237-39 (D.C. 2015) (giving substantial weight to description
    that “suspect reached into the back of his pants and pulled something out and put it
    back in” (brackets omitted)); In re Antonio A., No. B228573, 
    2011 WL 4436459
    , at
    *2 (Cal. Ct. App. Sept. 26, 2011) (noting that appellant “appeared to grab an object
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    “following-up on an informant’s tip.” 4 And Maye was not trying to conceal or shield
    his hand motions from Officer Kenney, contrary to the trial court’s and the
    government’s descriptions of his gestures as “furtive.” 5 Officer Kenney made clear
    that Maye made no effort to hide what he was doing while adjusting his waistband.
    That left the trial court to rely heavily on the fact that Maye was in a high-
    crime area. The mere fact that a neighborhood is high in crime may, in some
    circumstances, amplify otherwise suspicious activity. See Brown, 97 A.3d at 96
    (noting “high-crime area” as contributing to reasonable suspicion to seize);
    Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 124
     (noting the “high crime area” as “among the relevant
    contextual considerations”). But it does not transform innocuous behavior like
    adjusting one’s waistband and placing a hand in one’s pants pocket into grounds for
    a seizure. Duhart, 
    589 A.2d at 900
     (“[A]n allegedly ‘high narcotics activity’ area
    does not objectively lend any sinister connotation to facts that are innocent on their
    in his waistband and pull it back and forth,” which is “conduct consistent with
    carrying a concealed weapon”).
    4
    Anderson v. United States, 
    658 A.2d 1036
    , 1040 (D.C. 1995).
    5
    See, e.g., Crowder v. United States, 
    379 A.2d 1183
    , 1185 (D.C. 1977)
    (appellant’s “attempt to shield the newspaper from view [was a factor] indicat[ing]
    the presence of a weapon”); see also Robinson, 
    76 A.3d at 337
     (noting significance
    that “there was no testimony that [appellant] was trying to conceal anything”).
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    face.”); Curtis v. United States, 
    349 A.2d 469
    , 472 (D.C. 1975) (facts do not “assume
    added significance because they happen to have occurred in a high crime area”);
    Robinson, 
    76 A.3d at 340
     (“[T]he character of the streets . . . does not authorize
    officers to rove troubled neighborhoods and briefly detain and patdown anyone they
    encounter.”); Dozier v. United States, 
    220 A.3d 933
    , 943 n.12 (D.C. 2019)
    (cautioning against “over-reliance” on the “amorphous” term “high-crime area”).
    That is particularly true where the officers’ testimony about this being a high-crime
    area was short on specifics. Officer Jones’ testimony was that the officers had come
    into contact with more than one person in that block with narcotics and weapons.
    But where both officers had worked for the Metropolitan Police Department for
    more than five years, having confronted “multiple individuals” with guns and/or
    drugs on a block in that span does not provide much detail. And Officer Kenney
    described the entire Sixth District save for maybe a park and a “couple of little streets
    here and there” as being high in crime, thereby considerably diluting his view that
    this particular block was high in crime. We would need “a great deal more” than
    what the government offers here for the location of the encounter to tip the balance
    in its favor. Curtis, 
    349 A.2d at 472
    .
    We are mindful that these factors are to be considered collectively under a
    “totality of the circumstances” test, Umanzor, 
    803 A.2d at 992-93
    , and that “[e]ven
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    if each specific act . . . could be perceived in isolation as an innocent act,” there may
    yet be “a combination of facts that make out an articulable suspicion.” Peay v.
    United States, 
    597 A.2d 1318
    , 1320 (D.C. 1991) (en banc). Nonetheless, we have
    repeatedly found a lack of reasonable suspicion despite similar hand gestures
    observed in high crime areas under circumstances more suspicious than what we
    have here. See, e.g., Duhart, 
    589 A.2d at 899-900
     (no reasonable articulable
    suspicion where officer saw “two people examining ‘something’” in a high-crime
    area and, upon noticing the officer, the appellant “shoved [the] item into his
    pocket”); Hawkins, 248 A.3d at 127, 131 (no reasonable articulable suspicion where,
    upon seeing police officer, appellant stuffed one or both of his hands into his satchel
    “several times” while in an area that “had experienced ‘an increase in violent crime’
    that summer”); Anderson v. United States, 
    658 A.2d 1036
    , 1040 (D.C. 1995) (no
    reasonable articulable suspicion when officer saw appellant in high crime area
    around midnight “reluctantly remov[ing] his hands from his pocket and act[ing] in
    an unusual manner”). 6
    6
    See also In re Jeremy P., 
    11 A.3d 830
    , 838 (Md. Ct. Spec. App. 2011) (“[A]
    police officer’s observation of a suspect making an adjustment in the vicinity of his
    waistband does not give rise to reasonable suspicion sufficient to justify a Terry stop.
    Typically, to provide the reasonable and articulable suspicion necessary to warrant
    an investigative detention in the absence of other suspicious behavior indicating the
    possibility of criminal activity, the officer must be able to recount specific facts, in
    addition to the waistband adjustment, that suggest the suspect is concealing a
    weapon in that location.”).
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    The government argues that Peay, supra, compels a contrary conclusion. We
    disagree. In Peay, the officers’ suspicions that defendant possessed an illegal
    weapon rested on a stronger foundation than what we confront here. We determined
    there was reasonable articulable suspicion in that case when officers pulled their car
    up to the entrance of an apartment building known for “narcotics trafficking,” and
    the appellant, upon seeing the officers, “hurried” inside the building while clutching
    an object in his hand that officers suspected was an illegal weapon. 
    597 A.2d at
    1319-22 & n.6. By contrast, in this case Maye did not flee but cooperated with the
    officers who pulled their car up to his group of friends, parked it, exited, and
    approached with no specific cause. There was nothing in Maye’s hand that could be
    mistaken for a gun, nor was there any bulge or attempt to turn away from officers so
    as to suggest he was hiding something. And he did not run inside any particular
    house or complex specifically known to be a hot-bed for criminal activity. Peay is
    readily distinguishable.
    2. The Pocketknife Clipped to Maye’s Pocket
    The lone additional factor the government and trial court point to as creating
    a reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct is Maye’s possession of a pocketknife,
    clipped inside his pants pocket with the clip in plain view. We disagree with the trial
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    court’s reasoning that possessing a “typical folding pocket knife” “carr[ies] with it
    an indici[um] of wrongdoing.”        People carry pocketknives for many reasons;
    anybody who has an occasional need to open packages, break down boxes, or cut
    string may find it useful to keep one at hand. Pocketknives may be carried “for
    utilitarian reasons” or “as a tool in certain trades or hobbies.” Scott v. United States,
    
    243 A.2d 54
    , 56 (D.C. 1968). A pocketknife is often listed first among the “ten
    essentials” that older Scouts (formerly, “Boy Scouts”) are expected to carry on any
    outing. See, e.g., Stephen Regenold, The Scout 10 Essentials: Items Every Scout
    Needs     in   the   Outdoors,   SCOUTING,      scoutingmagazine.org/2013/02/the-10-
    essentials/; https://perma.cc/V7MZ-4NYR (last visited August 27, 2021). In short,
    individuals are allowed to carry pocketknives—and adjust their waistbands,
    including in high-crime areas—without forfeiting their Fourth Amendment rights to
    be free from seizures and searches absent more particularized suspicion.
    We find the Second Circuit’s opinion in United States v. Hussain, 
    835 F.3d 307
     (2d Cir. 2016), instructive on the point. In that case, officers stopped a car for
    running a stop sign in a “high crime area” and the driver—later observed to have a
    pocketknife in his pocket—“started fumbling around the center console.” Id. at 310,
    315-16. One of the passengers in the car was also “sitting in an ‘unnatural’ position
    that suggested” he was trying to “block the officer’s view of the inside of the car,”
    21
    id. at 311, 314, unlike in this case where there is no indication any of Maye’s
    companions were acting suspiciously. The trial court found in Hussain that the
    above factors gave the officers reasonable articulable suspicion to permit a
    protective search of the car for other weapons. Id. at 312; see generally Michigan v.
    Long, 
    463 U.S. 1032
    , 1035 (1983) (extending Terry’s rationale to vehicular
    searches).
    The Second Circuit reversed for reasons applicable here. 7 It determined that
    the trial court “overstated the description of the knife as a dangerous ‘weapon’ that
    signaled the presence of other weapons” because possession of a simple pocketknife
    did not support such an assumption. Id. at 317. In arriving at that conclusion, the
    court explained that carrying a standard pocketknife does not suggest a person is
    otherwise armed with an illegal weapon, as it observed that pocketknives with
    7
    There is one potentially important difference between this case and Hussain,
    which is that Hussain concerned whether there was sufficient reason to search for
    dangerous weapons after a lawful seizure, whereas this case also presents the
    predicate question whether there was sufficient reason to seize Maye in the first
    place. See Curtis, 
    349 A.2d at 472
     (protective pat-down may only be conducted if
    “the preceding seizure was reasonable”). But as discussed above in note 1, that point
    only helps Maye’s cause. Even if we were to assume a lawfully stopped person with
    a pocketknife can invariably be patted down as potentially dangerous, we would still
    have the deficiency in this case that officers had no basis to stop Maye in the first
    place.
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    shorter blades—like the “Swiss Army knife” and “the official pocketknife licensed
    by the Boy Scouts of America”—are “ubiquitous.” 8 
    Id.
    Other courts tend to agree with the point that mere possession of a
    pocketknife, without more, does not give rise to reasonable articulable suspicion of
    criminal activity. See, e.g., People v. Brannon, 
    949 N.E.2d 484
    , 487-88 (N.Y. 2011)
    (defendant’s possession of a “typical pocket knife” did not support a finding of
    reasonable articulable suspicion); Lockard v. State, 
    233 A.3d 228
    , 241 (Md. Ct.
    Spec. App. 2020) (a pocketknife does not give rise to reasonable articulable
    suspicion that person is otherwise armed and dangerous); Davis v. State, 
    67 So. 3d 1125
    , 1127 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 2011) (“Possession of a pocketknife, without more,
    does not create a reasonable suspicion that a citizen is involved in criminal
    activity.”); Debord v. State, 
    622 S.E.2d 460
    , 461-63 (Ga. Ct. App. 2005) (no
    reasonable articulable suspicion where officer knew appellant from “a previous
    narcotics violation” and “noticed a pocketknife ‘clipped to his pants pocket’”). We
    reach the same conclusion here.
    8
    See generally 
    D.C. Code § 22-4514
    (b) (2012 Repl.) (treating knives “with a
    blade longer than 3 inches” as “dangerous weapon[s]”).
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    This court’s recent decisions in Hawkins and Golden are also instructive. In
    Hawkins v. United States, there was testimony that the defendant, who appeared
    nervous upon seeing a police officer, made stuffing motions into a satchel he was
    carrying. 248 A.3d at 127-28, 131. The arresting officer had indicated a trend that
    summer of persons hiding illegal firearms in similar satchels. Id. at 131. The
    government argued that the appellant’s stuffing motions while present on a block
    experiencing “‘an increase in violent crime’ that summer,” combined with the
    officer’s knowledge that people were carrying firearms in satchels like his, provided
    the requisite suspicion for the officer to believe the defendant possessed an illegal
    firearm. Id. at 127, 131. We disagreed, reasoning that the “officer’s conclusory
    reference to a ‘trend’ of finding guns hidden in satchels that summer was not
    supported by details which would allow the court to ‘evaluate the reasonableness of
    th[e] . . . search.’” Id. at 131 (quoting Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 21
    ). In Golden v. United
    States, officers observed the defendant wearing an “unneeded” sweatshirt around his
    waist which appeared to be covering a bulge on his right hip. 
    248 A.3d 925
    , 941-42
    (D.C. 2021). The government argued that the location of the bulge, combined with
    the defendant’s wearing of a sweatshirt on a warm day, triggered a reasonable
    articulable suspicion for officers to believe the defendant was armed with an illegal
    firearm. 
    Id.
     We again disagreed, concluding that the officers’ observations of the
    defendant were consistent with innocent behavior and were too generalized to
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    provide reasonable articulable suspicion under the Fourth Amendment. 
    Id.
     at 942-
    43.
    Officer Kenney’s suspicions here were even more generic than the ones we
    confronted in Hawkins and Golden. He did not suggest there was a trend of people
    with pocketknives carrying firearms, like the asserted correlation between satchels
    and firearms noted in Hawkins. There was no bulge on Maye’s waist suggesting a
    firearm, as there was in Golden. There was only a typical pocketknife, which—
    similar to the satchel in Hawkins and the sweatshirt in Golden—supplied no
    meaningful support for Officer Kenney’s suspicion of criminal activity. “Mere
    conclusory statements by the officer that what he saw made him believe the
    defendant had a weapon [in his waistband] are not enough to satisfy the State’s
    burden of articulating reasonable suspicion that the suspect was involved in criminal
    activity.” In re Jeremy P., 11 A.3d at 839.
    Finally, we do not think the combination of (1) Maye putting a hand in his
    pocket (2) where a pocketknife was clipped, presents a tandem of factors more
    suspicious than the sum of its constituent parts. There is no reason to think Maye
    placing his hand in his pocket put him in a better position to draw the knife than if
    he had naturally rested his arm at his side—an equally innocuous posture. Officer
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    Kenney did not suggest otherwise and was explicit that he did not feel “threatened”
    by the pocketknife, further testifying that he could not even recall if he removed it
    during the course of patting Maye down. These two factors, in combination with the
    high-crime area and waistband adjustment, did not give rise to a reasonable
    articulable suspicion to seize Maye.
    B.
    Our conclusion above is not fatal to affirmance, however, as the government
    also contends that Maye was not in fact seized when he consented to a search. The
    government asserts the trial court itself found there was no seizure when Maye
    consented to a search, but that view cannot be reconciled with the trial court’s ten
    separate references to the encounter as a “Terry stop” or a “stop under Terry.” While
    we acknowledge the trial court at times suggested there was no seizure, 9 its ultimate
    9
    The trial court’s order first describes the officers’ initial “interaction with the
    group of individuals [as] a consensual encounter” in Part I.A, and then describes
    how those “officers’ interaction with Defendant was a valid Terry stop” in Part I.B.
    We read the trial court to have reasoned (1) that the officers’ initial approach did not
    amount to a seizure of the entire group, but (2) at some point prior to receiving
    consent Officer Kenney seized Maye, perhaps when he asked Maye to remove his
    hand from his pocket, which might reasonably be interpreted as a command. See
    Sharp, 132 A.3d at 167 (“Courts routinely treat a request to step out of a car as
    interchangeable with an order or direction to get out of a car—a fact that strongly
    suggests that a reasonable person would likewise believe that an officer who asked
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    conclusion about that is of little consequence because whether there was a seizure is
    a question of law we review de novo and we “may affirm a decision for reasons other
    than those given by the trial court” so long as there is no “procedural unfairness to
    the parties.” Tuckson v. United States, 
    77 A.3d 357
    , 360-61 (D.C. 2013). 10
    To determine whether Maye was seized at the time he agreed to a search, we
    ask whether a reasonable person in Maye’s shoes would have felt “free to . . .
    terminate the encounter” with the officers. Sharp, 132 A.3d at 166 (quoting Bostick,
    
    501 U.S. at 439
    ). If so, then the encounter was consensual so that Maye’s consent
    was valid and Officer Kenney could search him without intruding on his Fourth
    him to get out of a car was not giving him a realistic right to say no.”) (citations
    omitted). The trial court also described an “alternative[]” basis for its ruling, that
    Maye’s “consent was entirely voluntary.” But there is no question that if Maye had
    been illegally seized any consent would be a fruit of that illegal seizure, a point the
    government has never contested and which renders this not an alternative ruling at
    all, but one likewise dependent on whether Maye was in fact seized. The government
    has never suggested, for instance, that if Maye was illegally seized prior to giving
    his consent to the pat-down, his consent was “sufficiently attenuated by an
    independent act to dissipate the taint of the” illegal seizure. Jones, 154 A.3d at 598
    n.20 (quoting Oliver v. United States, 
    656 A.2d 1159
    , 1172 (D.C. 1995)).
    10
    The only tangible difference it might make is in determining which party is
    entitled to reasonable inferences in its favor. See Morales v. United States, 
    866 A.2d 67
    , 72 (D.C. 2005) (“[W]e are obliged to view the record in the light most favorable
    to sustaining the trial court’s ruling.”).
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    Amendment rights. 11 Gordon v. United States, 
    120 A.3d 73
    , 78 (D.C. 2015). If not,
    then this was an unlawful seizure and Maye’s agreement to the search “would have
    been contemporaneous with and tainted by the illegal seizure, and ‘thus insufficient
    to show consent.’” See Dozier, 220 A.3d at 947 n.18 (quoting Jones, 154 A.3d at
    598 n.20). Whether a seizure occurred by the time Maye ostensibly consented to the
    search is thus crucial to whether Maye’s motion to suppress should have been
    granted.
    Unfortunately, the trial court’s order again does not resolve discrepancies
    between Officer Kenney’s and Hall’s testimonies that are critical to this analysis,
    likely because it—incorrectly, in our view—thought a seizure was justified under
    Terry in any event. When this case was remanded in 2015, we instructed the trial
    court to resolve the differences between Officer Kenney’s and Hall’s versions of the
    events, because those were the two witnesses whom it generally credited. Maye,
    Mem. Op. & J. at 4. Because their accounts differed substantially and because the
    trial court found both witnesses credible, this court could not discern “what specific
    11
    We caveat that we do not reach Maye’s argument that the search exceeded
    the scope of his consent. The premise that he gave any voluntary consent is in doubt,
    and we think it imprudent to address that potentially moot point.
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    testimony the trial court credited in deciding that there was consent in this case.” Id.
    (quotation marks omitted).
    One of those key unresolved differences is whether the officers directed
    everyone in the group to put their hands on the car—a circumstance Hall and Maye
    testified to, but that was absent from Officer Kenney’s testimony. While the trial
    court generally described how “[t]he officers did not make a show of authority or
    act in a manner that would dictate compliance by any member of the group was
    required,” it said that was “undisputed even by the Defendant,” suggesting it thought
    Maye’s and Hall’s accounts of the entire group being asked or directed to put their
    hands on the car was simply not coercive. Given the seeming significance of that
    fact, we do not opine on whether this was a seizure without a clear finding about it.
    Suffice it to say that a reasonable person in Maye’s shoes might think it material,
    when assessing whether they are free to terminate a police encounter, if seven of
    their friends have likewise been directed to assume the position and then complied.
    Because we remand—and further animating why we think it is prudent to do
    so—we note two factual points the trial court may have gotten wrong. First, the trial
    court suggested that when Officers Kenney and Jones approached the group, they
    “specified that no one in the group was in trouble.” No one testified to that during
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    the suppression hearing, or at Maye’s trial for that matter. 12 Perhaps the trial court
    was merely paraphrasing the officers’ testimony that in fact nobody was in trouble—
    rather than suggesting they indicated as much to the group—but because that is
    unclear we flag the point. Second, the trial court found Maye’s testimony that he
    “was ordered to place his hands on the . . . vehicle and was immediately handcuffed”
    not credible, in part, because it concluded that Hall’s testimony did not corroborate
    Maye’s. But Hall did corroborate Maye on that point. Hall testified that everybody
    in the group was directed to place their hands on the car, that Officer Kenney
    “grabbed” Maye, and then searched him after placing him in handcuffs. Their
    accounts were in sync.
    III.
    We disagree with the trial court’s conclusion that reasonable articulable
    suspicion justified a seizure of Maye. We remand the case for clearer factual
    findings relevant to whether and when Maye was in fact seized.
    12
    See Dozier, 220 A.3d at 937 n.1 (“In reviewing the trial court’s denial of a
    motion to suppress, we ‘can consider all testimony from the suppression hearing and
    undisputed testimony from the trial.’”) (quoting Patton v. United States, 
    633 A.2d 800
    , 818 n.11 (D.C. 1993)).
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    So ordered.