United States v. All Assets Held in Account Number 80020796, in the Name of Doraville Properties Corporation, at Deutsche Bank International, Limited in Jersey, Channel Islands, and All Interest, Benefits or Assets Tr ( 2019 )


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  •                            UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff,
    v.                                         Civil Action No. 13-1832 (JDB)
    ALL ASSETS HELD IN ACCOUNT
    NUMBER 80020796, IN THE NAME OF
    DORAVILLE PROPERTIES CORP.,
    AT DEUTSCHE BANK INTERNATIONAL,
    LTD. IN JERSEY, CHANNEL ISLANDS,
    AND ALL INTEREST, BENEFITS OR
    ASSETS TRACEABLE THERETO, et al.,
    Defendants.
    MEMORANDUM OPINION
    After years of litigation in this in rem action, the government and the only remaining
    claimant, Ibrahim Bagudu, are proceeding in discovery. Bagudu has asserted a claim to assets that
    were allegedly stolen from Nigeria and laundered through U.S. banks by Nigeria’s former de facto
    president Sani Abacha and Bagudu’s brother, Abubakar Bagudu (“Abubakar”). Ibrahim Bagudu
    now has provided notice that he intends to depose Daniel Claman, the government’s supervisory
    trial counsel.   Bagudu claims that Claman, who was the lead attorney responsible for the
    investigation of the Abacha matter prior to the filing of this case, has information essential to
    Bagudu’s defenses to the forfeiture action. See Mem. of P. & A. in Opp’n to Pl.’s Mot. for
    Protective Order to Preclude Dep. of Pl.’s Trial Counsel Daniel H. Claman (“Cl.’s Opp’n”) [ECF
    No. 260] at 2–3. In response to the deposition notice, the government moves for a protective order
    to preclude the deposition of Claman. See Pl.’s Mot. for Protective Order to Preclude Dep. of Pl.’s
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    Trial Counsel Daniel H. Claman (“Gov’t’s Mot.”) [ECF No. 258]. For the reasons that follow, the
    Court will grant the government’s motion.
    BACKGROUND
    As alleged and as described more fully in this Court’s March 19, 2015, Memorandum
    Opinion, see United States v. All Assets, 
    83 F. Supp. 3d 360
    , 364–366 (D.D.C. 2015), the
    defendant assets in this in rem proceeding were “involved in an international conspiracy to launder
    proceeds of corruption in Nigeria” that allegedly began in 1994 “during the military regime of
    General Sani Abacha,” Compl. [ECF No. 1] ¶¶ 1, 25. Abacha died in 1998, id. ¶ 8, and in 1999
    the United States received a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (“MLAT”) request from Nigeria
    seeking assistance with the investigation and recovery of the allegedly laundered funds, see Ex. 2
    to Gov’t’s Mot. (“Touhy Letter”) [ECF No. 258-3] at 2. According to the government, the
    Department of Justice’s (“DOJ”) Office of Internal Affairs (“OIA”) and the U.S. Attorney’s Office
    in the Southern District of New York (“SDNY”) were responsible for responding to the MLAT
    request. See Pamela J. Hicks 30(b)(6) Dep., Ex. 1 to Cl.’s Opp’n (“Hicks 30(b)(6) Dep.”) [ECF
    No. 260-2] at 81:12–15. Another unit, the DOJ’s Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section
    (“AFMLS”),1 “provided consultations on asset forfeiture and money laundering prosecutions and
    legal issues” in connection with the MLAT and served as a liaison between the U.S. Attorney’s
    Office and its foreign counterparts. Id. at 74:11–16, 78:12–17; 81:16–19. Claman worked at
    AFMLS and assisted OIA in its investigation, including by meeting with foreign law enforcement
    officials who were also investigating the Abacha matter. Id. at 74:11–77:17, 79:5–18, 332:11–20.
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    The DOJ’s Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section was formerly known as the Asset Forfeiture
    and Money Laundering Section. Both parties use the acronym “AFMLS” to refer to the unit, and this Court will do
    the same.
    2
    According to the U.S. government, its investigation into the Abacha funds “lost steam”
    between 2004 and 2007 as European countries were litigating the potential forfeiture of assets and
    criminal actions against Abacha’s alleged accomplices. Id. at 412:3–413:14, 415:15–416:12.2 In
    2007, the investigation apparently picked up again, and AFMLS drafted an affidavit in support of
    a request for a seizure warrant. See Email from Daniel Claman to David O’Mahoney, Ex. 13 to
    Cl.’s Opp’n [ECF No. 262-13] at 3–25; Cl.’s Opp’n at 11–12. Shortly thereafter, in 2008, AFMLS
    drafted a forfeiture complaint. See Debra LaPrevotte Griffith Dep., Ex. 15 to Cl.’s Opp’n [260-
    16] at 399:6–15.
    Five years later, on November 18, 2013, the United States filed a verified complaint for
    civil forfeiture of the defendant assets. Purported claims to various assets were subsequently filed
    by third parties, nearly all of which ultimately were struck. See United States v. All Assets, 
    330 F. Supp. 3d 150
    , 153–54 (D.D.C. 2018). The only remaining third-party claim in this litigation is
    Bagudu’s asserted claim to certain defendant assets, which is based on an annuity he receives from
    investment portfolios in which the defendant assets are held. Id. at 154.
    The government and Bagudu are now conducting discovery. Bagudu provided notice to
    the government that he intends to depose Claman, the current Deputy Chief of the International
    Unit of AFMLS and the government’s supervisory trial counsel in this case. Bagudu claims that
    Claman has unique, nonprivileged factual evidence that supports two of Bagudu’s defenses.
    First, Bagudu asserts that the United States is bound to a settlement agreement between
    Abubakar, the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and the Bailiwick of Jersey, which Bagudu claims
    precludes this forfeiture proceeding. In 2003, Abubakar was arrested in Texas for extradition to
    the Bailiwick of Jersey for his involvement in the Abacha matter. See Compl. ¶ 77. Abubakar
    2
    Portions of Bagudu’s opposition brief and its attachments have been filed under seal and are cited in this
    Memorandum Opinion with the government’s and Bagudu’s consent.
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    subsequently agreed to a settlement with Nigeria and Jersey by which he would return more than
    $163 million of the allegedly laundered assets to Nigeria in exchange for Jersey’s withdrawal of
    the extradition request and Ababukar’s return to Nigeria. Id. The U.S. government then released
    Abubakar from detention on bond at the request of the United Kingdom on behalf of Jersey.3
    Gov’t’s Mot. at 5. Although Bagudu admits that the U.S. government is not a signatory to the
    2003 settlement agreement, he asserts that it nevertheless is bound to the agreement because either
    it acted as the agent of Nigeria by attempting to recover the funds on behalf of Nigeria or it
    facilitated the agreement by dismissing the extradition proceeding against Abubakar. See Cl.
    Ibrahim Bagudu’s Resps. & Objs. to the United States’ 2d Set of Interrogs., Ex. 1 to Gov’t’s Mot.
    (“Cl.’s Resps. to Interrogs.”) [ECF No. 258-2] at 14, 28–30.
    Second, Bagudu asserts that the government delayed bringing this in rem proceeding until
    2013 for tactical reasons, resulting in prejudice to his claim. See Cl.’s Opp’n at 3. Specifically,
    Bagudu claims that the U.S. government has known about the underlying criminal conduct alleged
    in the complaint since November 1999 and had identified funds traceable to the claimed defendant
    property in 2002. Cl.’s Resps. to Interrogs. at 7–8. Because the government intentionally did not
    bring this action until 2013, Bagudu asserts, relevant documents and witnesses are no longer
    available and his due process rights under the Fifth Amendment have been violated. Id. at 7, 11–
    14.
    Bagudu claims that, as lead AFMLS investigator, Claman has information that is essential
    to both of his defenses. Specifically, Bagudu seeks testimony from Claman relating to (1)
    Claman’s role in the U.S. government’s investigation of the Abacha matter; (2) his participation
    in meetings with foreign officials concerning the Abacha matter; (3) Claman’s knowledge of the
    3
    The Bailiwick of Jersey is a dependency of the United Kingdom.
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    2003 extradition proceeding against Abubakar; (4) the government’s involvement in the 2003
    settlement agreement between Abubakar, Jersey, and Nigeria; (5) steps the U.S. government took
    to investigate the Abacha matter from 1999 to 2008, including all information the government
    obtained during this period; and (6) the reasons why the government did not commence this action
    until 2013. Cl.’s Opp’n at 13–14; Touhy Letter at 5–6. Bagudu also seeks testimony regarding
    Claman’s document retention practices, as well as other topics relating to Claman’s or the
    government’s knowledge of the Abacha matter. See Cl.’s Opp’n at 14; Touhy Letter at 6.
    In response, the government has moved for a protective order to preclude the deposition of
    Claman. The government argues that the Court should prohibit Bagudu from deposing Claman
    because much of the information can be obtained by other means, is privileged or irrelevant, or is
    not crucial to Bagudu’s defenses. Gov’t’s Mot. at 18. In opposition, Bagudu argues that he is not
    seeking to depose Claman about the government’s trial strategy or any privileged matters. Cl.’s
    Opp’n at 2. Rather, he claims that he seeks only factual information pertaining to the government’s
    investigation of the Abacha matter that is unavailable by other means. Id. at 18. The government’s
    motion is now fully briefed and ripe for consideration.
    LEGAL STANDARD
    Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(b) permits a party to “obtain discovery regarding any
    nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party’s claim or defense and proportional to the needs
    of the case,” in light of “whether the burden or expense of the proposed discovery outweighs its
    likely benefit.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1). However, although the rules governing the permissible
    scope of discovery are liberal, they are not boundless. Rule 26(c) provides that a “court may, for
    good cause, issue an order to protect a party or person from annoyance, embarrassment,
    oppression, or undue burden or expense” due to a discovery request. This rule “confers broad
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    discretion on the trial court to decide when a protective order is appropriate and what degree of
    protection is required.” Seattle Times Co. v. Rhinehart, 
    467 U.S. 20
    , 36 (1984). However, the
    district court “must limit the . . . extent of discovery” if it determines that the proposed discovery
    (1) “is unreasonably cumulative or duplicative,” or “can be obtained from some other source that
    is more convenient, less burdensome, or less expensive”; (2) could have been obtained by the party
    earlier in the action; or (3) is outside the permissible scope. Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2)(C). Generally,
    the party seeking a protective order to preclude a deposition bears the burden of showing that the
    protective order is warranted, “and that burden of proof is particularly great when the party seeks
    to prevent a deposition entirely rather than merely modify it.” Guantanamera Cigar Co. v.
    Corporacion Habanos, S.A., 
    263 F.R.D. 1
    , 8 (D.D.C. 2009) (citing Westinghouse Elec. Corp. v.
    City of Burlington, 
    351 F.2d 762
    , 766 (D.C. Cir. 1965)).
    However, “[w]hen a party seeks to depose opposing counsel, the normally permissive
    discovery rules become substantially less so.” Coleman v. District of Columbia, 
    284 F.R.D. 16
    ,
    18 (D.D.C. 2012). Although depositions of opposing trial counsel are not expressly prohibited by
    the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, they are generally disfavored. Sterne Kessler Goldstein &
    Fox, PLLC v. Eastman Kodak Co., 
    276 F.R.D. 376
    , 380 (D.D.C. 2011). “When attorney
    depositions are sought, courts should also consider ‘all of the relevant facts and circumstances to
    determine whether the proposed deposition would entail an inappropriate burden or hardship.’” 
    Id. at 382
     (quoting In re Subpoena Issued to Dennis Friedman, 
    350 F.3d 65
    , 70 (2d. Cir. 2003)). Such
    considerations include “the need to depose the lawyer, the lawyer’s role in connection with the
    matter on which discovery is sought and in relation to the pending litigation, the risk of
    encountering privilege and work-product issues, and the extent of discovery already conducted.”
    In re Friedman, 
    350 F.3d at 70
    .
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    ANALYSIS
    I.       Burden of Proof
    As a preliminary matter, the parties contest which party has the burden of proving that the
    deposition should, or should not, proceed. The government argues that depositions of opposing
    trial counsel are presumptively disallowed and may only be taken if the party seeking the
    deposition satisfies the test set forth by the Eighth Circuit in Shelton v. American Motors Corp.,
    
    805 F.2d 1323
     (8th Cir. 1986). See Gov’t’s Mot. at 7–8; Reply Br. in Supp. of Gov’t’s Mot.
    (“Gov’t’s Reply”) [ECF No. 264] at 2–4. Under Shelton, the party seeking to depose opposing
    trial counsel must show “that (1) no other means exist to obtain the information than to depose
    opposing counsel; (2) the information sought is relevant and nonprivileged; and (3) the information
    is crucial to the preparation of the case.” 805 F.2d at 1327 (citation omitted).
    In response, Bagudu contends that there is no presumption against deposing opposing trial
    counsel where the attorney played a role in the underlying acts as a fact witness, and that any such
    presumption is contrary to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Cl.’s Opp’n at 20–22. Instead,
    Bagudu argues, the Court should consider whether the government has demonstrated that there is
    “good cause” to preclude the deposition in light of the burden the deposition would impose. Id. at
    24–25.
    The D.C. Circuit has not addressed whether the Shelton test applies to depositions of
    opposing trial counsel.4 But this Court need not decide whether Shelton is applicable here because
    it finds that the standards set forth in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure are sufficiently robust
    to resolve the instant motion. “Rule 26(c) is highly flexible, having been designed to accommodate
    4
    The Shelton test has been adopted by some judges on this court, however. See, e.g., Guantanamera, 263
    F.R.D. at 8 (finding party did not meet its burden to prove the deposition testimony of opposing counsel was
    necessary); Corp. for Pub. Broad. v. Am. Auto. Centennial Comm’n, No. 1:97CV01810, 
    1999 WL 1815561
    , *1–2
    (D.D.C. Feb. 2, 1999) (applying Shelton).
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    all relevant interests as they arise.” United States v. Microsoft, 
    165 F.3d 952
    , 959 (D.C. Cir. 1999).
    It demands a fact-specific inquiry that “requires an individualized balancing of the many interests
    that may be present in a particular case.” 
    Id. at 960
    . Upon weighing these interests, the Court has
    broad discretion “to tailor discovery narrowly,” including by applying “a measure of extra
    protection” where required by the relevant interests at stake. In re Sealed Case, 
    381 F.3d 1205
    ,
    1215 (D.C. Cir. 2004) (citations omitted). The Court will therefore consider both the government’s
    interests in precluding the deposition of its trial counsel and Bagudu’s interests in obtaining
    discovery from Claman.
    II.      The Deposition of Claman
    A. The Government’s Interests
    The government’s interests in precluding the deposition of its trial counsel are significant.
    Claman has been involved in investigating the Abacha matter, including investigating whether and
    when to prosecute for violations of U.S. law, since shortly after the MLAT request was first made
    to the United States, and he became the lead AFMLS attorney responsible for the investigation in
    2007. See Gov’t’s Mot. at 6–7; Hicks 30(b)(6) Dep. at 85:19–88:9, 92:17–94:13, 332:11–20.
    Bagudu concedes that Claman was investigating the Abacha matter, in part, “to determine whether
    there was any basis for [the U.S. government] to commence its own criminal or civil asset
    forfeiture action.” Cl.’s Opp’n at 4. Because the investigation was “based upon a suspicion of
    specific wrongdoing and represent[s] an attempt to garner evidence and to build a case against the
    suspected wrongdoer,” it “was undertaken with litigation in mind” and implicates attorney work-
    product concerns. SafeCard Servs., Inc. v. SEC, 
    926 F.2d 1197
    , 1202 (D.C. Cir. 1991); see also
    U.S. Airline Pilots Ass’n v. Pension Ben. Guar. Corp., 
    274 F.R.D. 28
    , 30 (D.D.C. 2011) (finding
    work-product privilege protected counsel’s investigation that was focused on “specific events” and
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    “specific possible violation[s]”). There is therefore substantial risk that questioning Claman about
    nonprivileged matters, such as what he conveyed to or learned from his foreign counterparts during
    his investigation, may lead to the revelation of privileged work product, including his legal theories
    of the case. Claman also was allegedly involved in the drafting of a complaint and in the
    government’s decision whether to file this action, a topic which Bagudu specifically seeks to
    probe. Gov’t’s Mot. at 11. Hence, the deposition may “present a unique opportunity for
    harassment,” and may be used to disrupt and delay the case, drawing the parties (and the Court)
    into disputes regarding collateral matters related to assertions of privilege, scope, and relevancy.
    Sterne Kessler, 276 F.R.D. at 381 (citation omitted); see also M & R Amusements Corp. v. Blair,
    
    142 F.R.D. 304
    , 303 (N.D. Ill. 1992) (“Deposing an opponent’s attorney is a drastic measure. It
    not only creates a side-show and diverts attention from the merits of the case, its use also has a
    strong potential for abuse.”).
    The deposition of trial counsel also strains the adversarial process itself. Preparing and
    sitting for a deposition is time-intensive, particularly so when the deponent must strive in both his
    recollection and ultimate testimony to parse protected work-product from discoverable
    information. Such distractions would detract from Claman’s work as supervising counsel in this
    case and could lead to a decrease in the quality of representation. See Sterne Kessler, 276 F.R.D.
    at 381. Finally, the deposition of Claman could potentially disqualify him from representing the
    government in this action. See id. Such interests weigh heavily on the side of precluding his
    deposition.
    B. Bagudu’s Interests
    Bagudu nevertheless asserts that his interests in obtaining discovery exceed the
    government’s interests in opposing the deposition. According to Bagudu, Claman possesses
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    relevant information as a fact witness because, in the course of his investigation, Claman
    participated in meetings with foreign representatives about the Abacha matter beginning in 1999
    and may have communicated with foreign officials about the settlement agreement. Cl.’s Opp’n
    at 5, 25–26. Bagudu asserts that Claman also could testify as to what facts he had gathered in his
    investigation and when, and why the government did not commence this action until 2013. Id. at
    25–26, 31–32. Bagudu claims that this information could answer key questions at the core of his
    defenses, including whether the U.S. government acted as an agent of Nigeria such that it should
    be bound by Abubakar’s settlement agreement, when the U.S. government obtained sufficient
    information to bring this action, and why the government delayed bringing this action. Id. at 35.
    And, according to Bagudu, this information is not available, or at least not easily obtainable, from
    other sources. See id. at 1–3, 28–31.
    But Bagudu overstates the relevance of any testimony Claman might provide. Although
    Bagudu claims that Claman is an important fact witness because he played a “central role” in the
    government’s investigations, Claman participated in the Abacha matter only as government
    counsel. See id. at 4. This is not a case in which opposing counsel was involved in the underlying
    events giving rise to the action. Cf. Sadowski v. Gudmundsson, 
    206 F.R.D. 25
    , 26 (D.D.C. 2002)
    (permitting defendant to depose plaintiff’s trial counsel on facts underlying plaintiff’s copyright
    registration in an unfair competition and copyright infringement action); Adeniya-Jones v. State
    Farm Mut. Auto. Co., Civ. No. 17-7101, 
    2015 WL 6180965
    , *1 (E.D. Pa. 2015) (finding deposition
    of opposing counsel was appropriate when plaintiff’s counsel allegedly entered an oral agreement
    with defendant that was central to plaintiff’s claim of bad faith). Claman’s involvement in the
    Abacha matter stems solely from his investigation and litigation of the underlying events as
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    counsel, not from any involvement in the events that underlie this action themselves, which weighs
    against permitting his deposition.
    Moreover, it does not appear that Claman has personal knowledge about each of the topics
    about which he has been asked to testify. For example, Bagudu seeks to question Claman about
    the 2003 extradition proceeding against Abubakar, which Bagudu asserts is relevant to his defense
    that Abubakar’s settlement agreement precludes this litigation. Although Bagudu asks the Court
    to treat Claman as a fact witness, no evidence has been presented that Claman was involved in this
    proceeding. The extradition process was managed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern
    District of Texas. See Cl.’s Opp’n at 18. As Bagudu has asserted, Claman only received
    information pertaining to the extradition proceedings four years later, in 2007, through
    conversations with one of the Texas Assistant United States Attorneys who was involved in the
    extradition. See Touhy Letter at 3. And Bagudu has already deposed the OIA attorney and one
    of the Assistant United States Attorneys responsible for coordinating execution of the extradition
    request. Gov’t’s Reply at 10 n.6. The limited value of any second-hand information Claman could
    provide about the extradition proceeding is hence vastly outweighed by the burden imposed on the
    government. Questioning Claman about this topic is accordingly outside the permissible scope of
    discovery. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1) (noting the scope of discovery depends on “whether the
    burden or expense of the proposed discovery outweighs its likely benefit”).
    Nevertheless, by virtue of his role as lead AFMLS investigator, Claman likely has some
    knowledge that is relevant to Bagudu’s asserted defenses, including knowledge of any meetings
    with foreign representatives in which the government discussed Abubakar’s settlement agreement
    or through which Claman obtained information relevant to this action. The Court therefore will
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    consider Bagudu’s asserted interests in deposing Claman together with the government’s asserted
    interests in precluding the deposition.
    C. Availability of Less Burdensome Sources
    The Court first considers the government’s argument that the testimony Bagudu seeks from
    Claman is available from other, “less burdensome” sources. Under the Federal Rules, district
    courts “must limit” discovery that “can be obtained from some other source that is more
    convenient, less burdensome, or less expensive.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2)(C)(i). Here, the
    government has already produced thousands of pages of records from its investigation as well as
    responses to Bagudu’s interrogatories. See Gov’t’s Mot. at 2, 13; see also Pl.’s 1st Suppl. Resp.
    to Cl.s’ 4th Set of Interrogs., Ex. 4 to Cl.’s Opp’n [ECF No. 262-4] at 2–5; Swiss Meeting Notes,
    Ex. 5 to Cl.’s Opp’n [ECF No. 262-5]; Fax from Stephen Baker to Daniel H. Claman, Ex. 6 to
    Cl.’s Opp’n [ECF No. 262-6]; Email from Daniel Claman to Stephen Baker, Ex. 7 to Cl.’s Opp’n
    [ECF No. 262-7].5 Bagudu also had the opportunity to depose other government agents involved
    in the investigation, including two OIA attorneys, two FBI agents, and an FBI forensic accountant.
    Gov’t’s Mot. at 3.
    Most importantly, Bagudu had the opportunity to depose the government’s Rule 30(b)(6)
    deponent about nearly every topic included in Bagudu’s deposition notice to Claman. The 30(b)(6)
    notice included topics addressing (1) the actions the U.S. government took to investigate the
    Abacha matter; (2) meetings with foreign officials concerning the Abacha matter; (3) the U.S.
    government’s involvement in the 2003 settlement agreement between Abubakar, Jersey, and
    5
    Although Bagudu asserts that the government’s document production is incomplete, see Cl.’s Opp’n at 14–
    16, the government has responded that there is no evidence that substantive documents are missing from its production,
    see Gov’t’s Reply at 14; Hicks 30(b)(6) Dep. at 258:1–259:1 (“We cannot find any documents or have not discovered
    any cache of documents, any subject of documents, that were ever destroyed . . . in this case.”). Regardless, it is
    undisputed that the government has provided Bagudu with more than 170,000 pages of documents in discovery. See
    Cl.’s Opp’n at 14.
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    Nigeria; (4) the U.S. government’s knowledge of and involvement in the extradition proceeding
    against Abubakar and Abubakar’s 2010 motion to expunge records of that proceeding; and (5) the
    reasons why the government did not commence this action until 2013. Notice of Dep., Ex. 4 to
    Gov’t’s Mot [ECF No. 258-5] at 3–6. The 30(b)(6) notice also required the government to identify
    specifically the date when, and to describe in detail how, it first became aware of the alleged
    criminal conduct, the claimed property, and any “[i]nformation and documents that could support
    a civil asset forfeiture action against the Claimed Property.” Id. at 5.6
    The only relevant topics not specifically encompassed by the 30(b)(6) notice pertain to
    Claman’s personal knowledge of the Abacha investigation and proceedings and his personal
    document retention practices. But any information personally known to Claman in his capacity as
    a government employee investigating and litigating the Abacha matter should have been available
    to the government’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness, Pamela Hicks. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(6) (“The
    persons designated must testify about information known or reasonably available to the
    organization.”); see also In re Vitamins Antitrust Litig., 
    216 F.R.D. 168
    , 173 (D.D.C. 2003)
    (finding that employees’ knowledge is “imputed to the [organization] itself” (citation omitted)).
    As Bagudu concedes, Claman did in fact provide extensive information to Hicks to prepare her for
    the Rule 30(b)(6) deposition. See Touhy Letter at 4–5. Bagudu’s need to depose Claman himself
    about his personal knowledge is therefore diminished by Bagudu’s ability to question the
    government directly about the topics included in Claman’s deposition notice.7 Hence, given that
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    The Rule 30(b)(6) deposition notice also included topics pertaining to (1) the government’s knowledge of,
    or involvement in, potential resolutions of investigations and proceedings connected with the Abacha matter; (2)
    Bagudu’s Fourth Set of Interrogatories and the government’s responses; (3) the existence of any documentation of
    discussions with foreign representatives; and (4) the identity of all individuals involved in the Abacha investigation
    and their roles. See 
    id.
     at 2–3, 5–7. These topics were within the notice to Claman, see Touhy Letter at 5–6, but were
    not the focus of the parties’ briefs.
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    Although the 30(b)(6) notice included a topic pertaining to the reasons why the government did not
    commence this action until November 2013, Bagudu did not question the government’s witness about the delay. See
    Gov’t’s Reply at 9. Hence, Bagudu cannot now claim that he has great need to depose Claman personally about the
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    Bagudu could have obtained or did obtain the information from a less burdensome source, the
    Court will preclude Bagudu from deposing Claman. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2)(C)(i); see also
    Sterne Kessler, 276 F.R.D. at 385 (quashing deposition of counsel when party could obtain
    information from a more convenient witness); cf. Breiterman v. U.S. Capitol Police, 
    323 F.R.D. 36
    , 50 (D.D.C. 2017) (quashing subpoena requesting documents from a third party when
    documents were already provided by the defendant).
    In addition to deposing the government’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness, Bagudu could have
    deposed other witnesses who participated in the investigation and meetings with foreign officials.
    The evidence Bagudu seeks to obtain—nonprivileged information Claman conveyed to or learned
    from third parties—by its very nature involves multiple witnesses and hence is not likely to be
    possessed exclusively by Claman. In some instances, other U.S. government officials attended
    relevant meetings with foreign officials but were not deposed by Bagudu. See, e.g., Jason Edward
    Carter Dep., Ex. 2 to Cl.’s Opp’n (“Carter Dep.”) [ECF 260-3] at 73:5–77:2 (FBI Legat Joseph
    Brent attended May 2001 meeting);8 Hicks (30)(b)(6) Dep. at 344:16–346:5 (SDNY Assistant U.S.
    Attorney Richard Strassberg attended June 2001 meeting);9 Carter Dep. at 61:21–64:21 (Brent
    attended December 2002 meeting); Email from Daniel Claman to David O’Mahoney, Ex. 10 to
    Cl.’s Opp’n [ECF No. 260-11 at 1 (AFMLS trial attorney Jack de Kluiver attended May 2007
    meeting). And in instances where a knowledgeable domestic deponent was not available, Bagudu
    timing of the filing of this case. If Bagudu was unable to obtain information pertaining to other requested topics from
    the Rule 30(b)(6) deponent, he could have moved to compel a new Rule 30(b)(6) witness or for additional
    interrogatories. See, e.g., Alexander v. FBI, 
    186 F.R.D. 137
    , 141–42 (D.D.C. 1998) (permitting interrogatories instead
    of new oral deposition of 30(b)(6) deponent when original deponent was knowledgeable about some, but not all,
    topics).
    8
    Carter also attended the May 2001 meeting and was deposed about the topic, but he apparently was not
    questioned by Bagudu about the substance of the meeting. See, e.g., id.; Cl.’s Opp’n at 6.
    9
    Bagudu’s counsel attests that he spoke with Strassburg after the deposition notice period had concluded,
    and Strassberg indicated that he could not recall the relevant meeting. See Decl. of Jonathan B. New, Ex. 1 to Cl.’s
    Opp’n [ECF No. 260-1] at 4. However, an informal conversation with a potential witness is not a substitute for
    probing relevant issues via sworn testimony in a deposition.
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    could have sought the relevant information from Claman’s foreign counterparts. See Coleman,
    284 F.R.D. at 19 (noting party did not “explain why she could not individually move to compel
    . . . non-attorney witnesses to testify instead of jumping straight to” opposing counsel). Although
    obtaining foreign discovery can be challenging, it is not categorically impossible. Indeed, the
    parties have already taken fact and expert depositions of witnesses who reside overseas, and many
    of Claman’s foreign counterparts now work in private practice rather than as government officials.
    See Gov’t’s Reply at 6. And although the process of obtaining foreign discovery can be
    burdensome, timely, and costly for the party seeking it, foreign discovery, unlike counsel
    depositions, does not endanger the adversarial process itself. See Sterne Kessler, 276 F.R.D. at
    380–81 (noting depositions of opposing counsel threaten the adversarial system). There is
    therefore good cause to preclude Bagudu from deposing Claman.
    D. The Risk of Revealing Privileged Work Product
    Even if Bagudu could not have obtained some of the information he seeks from other
    sources, the risk of revealing privileged work product if Claman is deposed outweighs the potential
    benefit of obtaining additional discovery. Bagudu asserts that he seeks only facts that would shed
    light on the government’s investigation and communications with foreign representatives. Cl.’s
    Opp’n at 2, 13–14. But testimony from counsel about what information he received during a
    decade-long investigation would essentially provide a roadmap of the government’s litigation
    theory, including what facts it deemed sufficiently important to record and how it marshaled those
    facts during the investigation. By requiring counsel to recount orally how he prepared his case
    and what facts he learned in the course of investigating the matter, the deposition would force
    Claman to “sharply focus[]” and “weed[] the materials.” In re Sealed Case, 
    124 F.3d 230
    , 236
    (D.C. Cir. 1997), rev’d on other grounds sub nom. Swidler & Berlin v. United States, 
    524 U.S. 15
    399 (1998). This is textbook work product. See Director, Office of Thrift Supervision v. Vinson
    & Elkins, LLP, 
    124 F.3d 1304
    , 1308 (D.C. Cir. 1997) (“[A] lawyer’s factual selection reflects his
    focus; in deciding what to include and what to omit, the lawyer reveals his view of the case.”).
    Moreover, it may be difficult for Claman to parse discoverable statements he made to
    others from privileged mental impressions he had at the time. See Gov’t’s Reply at 7–8. For
    example, Bagudu seeks to probe discussions Claman had with Stephen Baker, a representative
    from Jersey, concerning a theory of U.S. jurisdiction referred to as “dollar jurisdiction.” See Touhy
    Letter at 2. Although any statements made to Baker are not privileged, Claman’s legal theory of
    U.S. jurisdiction over the Abacha matter is. To successfully walk the tightrope between what is
    discoverable and what is privileged, Claman would have to distinguish what he affirmatively
    disclosed to third parties more than 17 years ago from his own mental impressions of the case.
    Even the exercise of distinguishing what he learned at the meetings from what he learned in his
    capacity as counsel poses substantial risks of intrusion into protected work product.                          The
    depositions of other witnesses, including Baker, would not have posed such risks. See Sterne
    Kessler, 276 F.R.D. at 385 (“Clearly a deposition of [counsel] would require diligent efforts to
    avoid disclosure of attorney-client communications and protected work-product material, a
    painstaking process that poses risks that other sources of discovery do not.”).10 The substantial
    risk of encountering privilege and work-product issues through Claman’s testimony provides
    further cause to preclude the deposition.
    10
    Bagudu nevertheless suggests that even if there were other witnesses who could testify about relevant
    foreign communications, he is entitled to depose Claman because “each individual’s unique perspective is
    independently discoverable.” See Cl.’s Opp’n at 28 (quoting Adeniyi-Jones, 
    2015 WL 6180965
    , at *1). But what
    makes Claman’s perspective “unique”—how he perceived events and what facts he deemed sufficiently important to
    commit to memory—is invariably bound up in his protected attorney work product. And Bagudu’s insistence that he
    has an unqualified right to the unique testimony of Claman ignores the substantial body of law limiting the right to
    depose opposing counsel.
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    E. Preclusion of the Deposition
    Given the government’s significant interests in precluding the deposition of its trial
    counsel, the risk of encountering privilege and work-product issues, and Bagudu’s diminished
    need to depose Claman due to the availability of other, less burdensome sources, including the
    government’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness, the Court finds that the deposition of Claman “would entail
    an inappropriate burden or hardship.” 
    Id. at 382
     (quoting In re Friedman, 
    350 F.3d at 72
    ). The
    Court therefore will preclude the deposition of Claman and grant the government’s motion for a
    protective order.
    III.        Interrogatories
    Although Bagudu may not depose Claman, the Court concludes that Bagudu may submit
    limited additional interrogatories to the government regarding certain communications it had with
    foreign officials.     The government admits it participated in meetings with foreign officials
    concerning the Abacha matter from 2004 through June 2007, see Hicks 30(b)(6) Dep. at 412:2–
    19, but it has not provided any relevant documents from, or interrogatory responses about, this
    time period. See Cl.’s Opp’n at 9, 14. The Court therefore will permit Bagudu to submit to the
    government additional, targeted interrogatories concerning meetings or communications with
    foreign officials during this time period.11 To the extent the government has not already provided
    nonprivileged information about relevant meetings with foreign officials that occurred outside this
    time period, the government must also supplement its responses to Bagudu’s prior interrogatories
    as required by Rule 26(e)(1).
    11
    The Court expects that the government will obtain all relevant nonprivileged information within its
    possession or control, including nonprivileged information known to Claman, to respond adequately to Bagudu’s
    interrogatories.
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    Finally, Bagudu has suggested that the government did not properly preserve relevant
    evidence in this case, including documents and communications with foreign representatives that
    he alleges were within Claman’s or the government’s possession. Because the government’s
    retention practice depended on each employee saving each document he believed might be
    relevant, Bagudu asserts that Claman had, or may still have, relevant documents that were not
    produced. See Cl.’s Opp’n at 15–16. Bagudu specifically points to notes from a June 2001
    meeting with foreign officials that were produced from Claman’s files late in the discovery period
    as evidence that Claman may have additional discovery in his possession. See Touhy Letter at 4;
    Cl.’s Opp’n at 6–7, 16. The government’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness could not provide an explanation
    for how the notes were discovered or why they were not obtained earlier. See Hicks 30(b)(6) Dep.
    at 295:9–297:8. The Court therefore concludes that Claman likely possesses information regarding
    his possession and retention of relevant evidence that is not available from a more convenient
    source. However, given the burdens Claman’s deposition would impose on the government, the
    Court finds that requiring Claman to sit for a deposition solely to explore this single topic would
    be disproportionate to Bagudu’s need for that testimony. Instead, the Court will permit Bagudu to
    submit an interrogatory to the government relating to Claman’s document retention practices. Cf.
    Coleman, 284 F.R.D. at 20 (permitting limited interrogatories in lieu of a deposition of counsel).
    CONCLUSION
    For the foregoing reasons, the government’s motion for a protective order will be granted.
    Bagudu may submit limited interrogatories to the government pertaining to Claman’s document
    retention practices and any meetings attended by or communications between the United States
    government and foreign officials relating to the Abacha matter that occurred between 2004 and
    June 2007. A separate Order accompanies this Memorandum Opinion.
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    /s/
    JOHN D. BATES
    United States District Judge
    Dated: January 3, 2019
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