Araiza v. State. ( 2021 )


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    Electronically Filed
    Supreme Court
    SCWC-XX-XXXXXXX
    26-JAN-2021
    08:22 AM
    Dkt. 20 OP
    IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF HAWAIʻI
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    EDELMIRA SALAYES ARAIZA,
    Petitioner/Petitioner-Appellant,
    vs.
    STATE OF HAWAIʻI,
    Respondent/Respondent-Appellee.
    SCWC-XX-XXXXXXX
    CERTIORARI TO THE INTERMEDIATE COURT OF APPEALS
    (CAAP-XX-XXXXXXX; CR. NO. 14-1-0162; S.P.P. NO. 15-1-0007)
    JANUARY 26, 2021
    RECKTENWALD, C.J., NAKAYAMA, McKENNA, AND WILSON, JJ., AND
    CIRCUIT JUDGE BROWNING, ASSIGNED BY REASON OF VACANCY
    OPINION OF THE COURT BY RECKTENWALD, C.J.
    I.   INTRODUCTION
    Edelmira Salayes Araiza is a citizen of Mexico and a
    lawful permanent resident (LPR) of the United States.             She has
    lived in Hawaiʻi for more than twenty-two years and has two
    children, both of whom were born in the United States.             In 2014,
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    Araiza pleaded no contest in the Circuit Court of the Second
    Circuit to Theft in the First Degree, an aggravated felony under
    federal immigration law, 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43), and to Welfare
    Fraud.    Her attorney advised her that pleading no contest would
    make deportation “almost certain,” but that “[his office] had
    criminal defendants who were convicted of felonies who are not
    automatically deported” because immigration was “handled by
    federal authorities who do not oversee state courts.”
    Here, we are asked to determine whether counsel
    properly advised his client, Araiza, about the consequences of
    an aggravated felony conviction.           We hold he did not.     In order
    to be effective under the United States and Hawaiʻi
    Constitutions, criminal defense attorneys must advise their
    clients about adverse immigration consequences that may result
    from a plea of guilty or no contest.           Haw. Const. art. I, § 14;
    Padilla v. Kentucky, 
    559 U.S. 356
    , 368 (2010).            Despite her
    attorney’s reference to deportation being “almost certain,” when
    taken as a whole, his advice conveyed that there was a realistic
    possibility Araiza would not be deported.           In reality, Araiza
    was precluded from discretionary relief from deportation because
    of her conviction.      Budziszewski v. Comm’r of Corr., 
    142 A.3d 243
    , 251 (Conn. 2016) (“If counsel gave the advice required
    under Padilla, but also expressed doubt about the likelihood of
    enforcement, the court must also look to the totality of the
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    immigration advice given by counsel to determine whether
    counsel’s enforcement advice effectively negated the import of
    counsel’s advice required under Padilla about the meaning of
    federal law.” (emphasis added)).           Araiza is therefore entitled
    to relief.
    In light of our resolution of this issue, we decline
    to determine whether the Intermediate Court of Appeals (ICA)
    erred on the other points of error raised by Araiza. 1            However,
    we offer guidance on one of those issues relating to
    qualifications of interpreters.         When a lower court appoints an
    interpreter who has not been certified by the judiciary as
    proficient in the applicable foreign language, it must conduct a
    brief inquiry to establish that the interpreter is qualified, as
    required by Hawaiʻi Rules of Evidence (HRE) Rules 604 and 702,
    and the Hawaiʻi Rules for Certification of Spoken-Language
    Interpreters (HRCSLI).
    II.   BACKGROUND
    In March 2014, the State charged Araiza with Theft in
    the First Degree in violation of Hawai‘i Revised Statutes (HRS)
    § 708-830.5(1)(a) (2014) and with Welfare Fraud in violation of
    1     On appeal, Araiza raised four additional issues: (1) her defense
    attorney provided ineffective assistance of counsel by failing to negotiate
    an immigration-safe plea; (2) the circuit court’s plea colloquy was
    insufficient under State v. Ernes, 147 Hawaiʻi 316 (2020); (3) her Rule 40
    counsel had been ineffective; and (4) the circuit court committed plain error
    by appointing an unqualified interpreter for the Rule 40 hearing.
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    HRS § 346-34(b) and/or (c) (2015), alleging she had failed to
    report income, which resulted in a substantial overpayment of
    Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits over
    the course of several years.          Araiza had no prior experience
    with the criminal justice system.
    At her arraignment, the circuit court 2 advised Araiza
    pursuant to HRS § 802E-4 (2014) 3: “[Y]our case may have severe
    and irreversible [immigration] consequences, including immediate
    detention, deportation or exclusion from admission or denial
    [of] naturalization to the United States.            Your attorney must
    advise you regarding the possible consequences this case may
    have on your immigration status.”
    2     The Honorable Rhonda I.L. Loo presided over Araiza’s circuit
    court proceedings including her arraignment, no contest plea, and Rule 40
    petition.
    3      HRS § 802E-4 provides:
    At the commencement of the court session for arraignment
    and plea hearings for an offense punishable as a crime
    under state law, except offenses designated as infractions
    under state law, the court shall administer the following
    advisement on the record to all defendants present:
    If you are not a citizen of the United States,
    whether or not you have lawful immigration status,
    your case may have severe and irreversible
    consequences, including immediate detention,
    deportation, or exclusion from admission or denial of
    naturalization to the United States. Your attorney
    must advise you regarding the possible consequences
    this case may have on your immigration status. You
    are not required to disclose your immigration or
    citizenship status to the court.
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    A.     Araiza’s No Contest Plea
    On October 10, 2014, Araiza, who was represented by a
    deputy public defender (trial counsel), pleaded no contest to
    both charges and moved for a deferred acceptance of her plea.
    The plea paperwork, which Araiza and her attorney both signed,
    specified, “[T]his document has been read to me or has been
    interpreted for me.”         It also contained an advisement about
    immigration consequences:
    If I am not a citizen of the United States, whether or not
    I have lawful immigration status, I have the right to
    receive advice from my lawyer about the specific impact
    that this case will have, if any, on my immigration status.
    The entry of a guilty or nolo contendre (no contest)
    plea, . . . may have the consequences of my immediate
    detention, deportation, exclusion from admission to the
    United States, or denial of naturalization pursuant to the
    laws of the United States. In some case[s], detention and
    deportation from the United States will be required. My
    lawyer must investigate and advise me about the
    aforementioned issues prior to . . . entry of a guilty or
    nolo contendere (no contest) plea . . . and I acknowledge
    that I have been so advised. I am not required to disclose
    my immigration or citizenship status to the court.
    (Emphasis added).
    The circuit court also read Araiza the immigration
    advisement from her plea paperwork, informing her that her plea
    “may have the consequences of your immediate detention,
    deportation[,] . . . [e]xclusion from admission to the United
    States, or denial of naturalization pursuant to the laws of the
    United States,” and that “[y]our lawyer must investigate and
    advise you about these issues prior to the . . . entry of a
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    guilty or no contest plea.” 4        Araiza told the court she did not
    need additional time to consider her plea, and that she had
    discussed immigration consequences with her attorney and was
    satisfied with his advice.         Accordingly, the circuit court found
    she “voluntarily entered a plea of no contest, with the
    understanding of the nature of the charges and the consequences
    of her plea.”
    4     Like the circuit court’s advisement at Araiza’s arraignment, this
    advisement was required by statute. HRS § 802E-2 (2014) provides:
    Prior to the commencement of trial, entry of a plea of
    guilty or nolo contendere, or admission of guilt or
    sufficient facts to any offense punishable as a crime under
    state law, except offenses designated as infractions under
    state law, the court shall administer the following
    advisement on the record to the defendant:
    If you are not a citizen of the United States,
    whether or not you have lawful immigration status,
    you have the right to receive advice from your
    attorney about the specific impact that this case
    will have, if any, on your immigration status. The
    entry of a guilty or nolo contendere plea, admission
    of guilt or sufficient facts, or conviction, deferred
    judgment, or deferred sentence may have the
    consequences of your immediate detention,
    deportation, exclusion from admission to the United
    States, or denial of naturalization pursuant to the
    laws of the United States. In some cases, detention
    and deportation from the United States will be
    required. Your lawyer must investigate and advise
    you about these issues prior to the commencement of
    trial, entry of a guilty or nolo contendere [plea],
    or admission of guilt or sufficient facts to any
    offense punishable as a crime under state law, other
    than those offenses designated as infractions. You
    are not required to disclose your immigration or
    citizenship status to the court.
    Upon request, the court shall allow the defendant
    additional time to consider the appropriateness of the plea
    in light of the advisement as described in this section.
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    The circuit court subsequently denied Araiza’s motion
    for a deferral and sentenced her to five years of probation on
    Count One (Theft in the First Degree), and one year of probation
    on Count Two (Welfare Fraud), with both terms of probation to
    run concurrently.        Araiza did not appeal her conviction.
    Four months later, the U.S. Department of Homeland
    Security detained Araiza without bond and served her with a
    Notice to Appear, alleging that she was removable because her
    conviction for Theft in the First Degree was an aggravated
    felony conviction.
    B.     Rule 40 Petition
    1.     Rule 40 Petition and Hearing
    Five months after Araiza’s conviction, Araiza filed a
    Hawaiʻi Rules of Penal Procedure (HRPP) Rule 40 petition, 5
    5      HRPP Rule 40 provides in relevant part:
    (a) Proceedings and Grounds. The post-conviction
    proceeding established by this rule shall encompass all
    common law and statutory procedures for the same purpose,
    including habeas corpus and coram nobis; provided that the
    foregoing shall not be construed to limit the availability
    of remedies in the trial court or on direct appeal. Said
    proceeding shall be applicable to judgments of conviction
    and to custody based on judgments of conviction, as
    follows:
    (1) From Judgment. At any time but not prior to final
    judgment, any person may seek relief under the
    procedure set forth in this rule from the judgment of
    conviction, on the following grounds:
    (continued . . .)
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    asserting that her trial counsel’s failure to advise her of
    immigration consequences constituted ineffective assistance of
    counsel and, in turn, prevented her no contest plea from being
    knowing and intelligent.
    Initially, the circuit court summarily denied Araiza’s
    Rule 40 petition without a hearing, finding that her claim of
    ineffective assistance of counsel had been waived because she
    failed to raise it on appeal, and that Araiza had not been
    convicted of an aggravated felony, so “the consequences
    resulting from [Araiza’s] plea were truly unclear.”             But the ICA
    reversed and explained that “[c]ontrary to the Circuit Court’s
    assumption, []Araiza’s conviction for first-degree theft by
    deception in violation of HRS § 708-830.5(1)(a) is an aggravated
    felony under the immigration laws.”          Salayes-Araiza v. State,
    No. CAAP-XX-XXXXXXX, 
    2016 WL 6948461
    , at *4 (Haw. App. Nov. 28,
    2016).    Accordingly, citing Padilla, the ICA concluded that
    Araiza’s “petition sufficiently stated a colorable claim for
    relief” and remanded for a hearing.          
    Id. at *5
    .
    (i) that the judgment was obtained or sentence
    imposed in violation of the constitution of the
    United States or of the State of Hawai‘i;
    (ii) that the court which rendered the judgment
    was without jurisdiction over the person or the
    subject matter;
    (iii) that the sentence is illegal;
    (iv) that there is newly discovered evidence;
    or
    (v) any ground which is a basis for collateral
    attack on the judgment.
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    At the hearing on remand, the parties stipulated to
    admitting State’s Exhibit 1, Araiza’s trial counsel’s
    declaration.    Araiza’s trial counsel stated in his declaration
    that he discussed immigration consequences with Araiza:
    [N]early every conversation with my client centered on
    immigration concerns, the looming and almost-certain
    possibility that she’d be deported, and the difficulty in
    presenting a defense in this case due to the language
    barrier, the severity of the charge, and the State’s
    evidence, and I remember that she burst into tears or
    became teary-eyed anytime I brought up this topic, which
    was every discussion we had prior to pre-trial.
    Trial counsel also advised Araiza and her husband that
    a plea of guilty or no contest “would result in an almost-
    certain deportation,” and he strongly advised them to speak to
    an immigration attorney.       However, he also explained that
    sometimes defendants convicted of felonies were not deported:
    As part of this discussion, I informed her that I had
    discussed this issue with more senior attorneys in my
    office, and discovered that there were situations in our
    own office where people who were found guilty of felony
    offenses were actually not deported, despite their
    convictions, and for that reason I could not give her 100%
    confirmation that she’d be automatically deported for the
    very reason that the immigration is handled by Federal
    authorities who do not oversee the State courts and that
    certain defendants seemed to slip through the grasp of what
    would [] otherwise be an automatic deportation.
    (Emphases added).
    Overall, trial counsel advised Araiza that she needed
    to weigh “risking automatic deportation with no jail (upon a
    plea agreement) versus going to trial and possibly being found
    guilty, serving jail and then being deported (which would be far
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    worse)[.]” 6
    During the Rule 40 hearing, trial counsel testified on
    behalf of the State.        Consistent with his declaration, trial
    counsel testified that he advised Araiza she would be subject to
    almost-certain deportation if convicted.            Deportation was not
    certain because his office “had criminal defendants who were
    convicted of felonies who are not automatically deported.”
    When pressed about his advice on cross-examination,
    trial counsel conceded he did not know, and had never advised
    Araiza, that state criminal records were automatically forwarded
    to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.            Moreover, trial counsel
    did not tell Araiza she would be automatically detained after
    her plea, even though he knew that that would happen and had
    advised her she would not go to jail if she pleaded no contest.
    Trial counsel also admitted that he did not tell
    Araiza that her conviction would be for an “aggravated felony,”
    or that a conviction for an aggravated felony precluded any
    6     Trial counsel also stated in his declaration that he had wanted
    to negotiate a dismissal if Araiza could raise “the full amount of
    restitution money,” but that Araiza and her husband were unable to do so.
    When he learned they did not have the money,
    I again explained that there could be immigration
    consequences, especially with a Theft in the First Degree
    conviction, and that deportation would be almost certain if
    convicted or put on probation. I again proposed that we
    could just take our chances at trial and try for an
    acquittal and [Araiza] indicated she did not want to risk
    losing at trial and again was very emotional during the
    conversation.
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    possible relief from removal.        Although he did not tell Araiza
    she was pleading to an “aggravated felony,” he testified that he
    told her it was “a more serious felony,” and explained “the
    difference between a Class B and a Class C [felony.]”
    When asked, he also said that he knew that someone
    deported for an aggravated felony would never be able to
    naturalize, but that he did not tell Araiza that: “I didn’t go
    through the specifics of the law because almost certain
    deportation, a reasonable inference would be that once you’re
    deported, you’re not allowed to come back.          But that’s why I
    also requested that she seek the advice of an immigration
    attorney.”
    When Araiza’s attorney explained that inadmissibility
    and inability to naturalize were two different things, trial
    counsel conceded he did not advise Araiza of either consequence.
    Trial counsel testified that he was not aware of
    Padilla, and that he never contacted immigration attorneys about
    his cases “because of client confidentiality,” even though the
    public defender’s office “encouraged us to contact immigration
    attorneys personally.”      Finally, when asked if he had a duty to
    research immigration consequences, he replied, “I believe that
    this is an issue that keeps on coming up in courts and that
    keeps on changing, especially with the presidency. . . .             Back
    then I didn’t believe I had the duty to know immigration law as
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    much as an immigration attorney.”
    Araiza herself also testified at the hearing.            She
    testified that she had lived in Hawai‘i for twenty-two years.
    She was married and had two children, both born in the United
    States.    She had a green card — and therefore was an LPR — and
    had hoped to become an American citizen.
    Araiza did not know what an aggravated felony was, and
    she testified that trial counsel had not advised her about
    possible immigration consequences: 7
    What I’m seeing, that he wanted to finish the case fast,
    because he told me to plead guilty, to just get an
    agreement; that I had to give $3,000; I was going to -- I
    was not going to go to jail; I was going to get an approval
    for five years [deferral]; and that I should continue with
    the payments; and that everything was going to be all
    right. So I felt relaxed on that sense.
    When asked if she would have gone to trial had she
    known about the immigration consequences of her plea, Araiza
    replied, “I would have gone and fight.”
    Araiza used a Spanish-speaking interpreter during the
    Rule 40 hearing.      Almost as soon as the hearing began, the
    circuit court interrupted the proceedings to instruct the
    interpreter twice that “[e]verything [Araiza] says you need to
    translate for us.”      Shortly after the first witness began
    7     Araiza testified that trial counsel had not given her any legal
    advice, but immediately went on to explain the non-immigration legal advice
    he had given her.
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    testifying, the circuit court interrupted again to ask if the
    interpreter was “getting all this,” to which the interpreter
    responded, “No. . . .      [I’m] getting a little behind.         But I’m
    getting the whole idea.”       The court said, “No,” and the
    interpreter said, “I can only translate ideas, no words.”
    During Araiza’s testimony, the court again instructed the
    interpreter to translate everything Araiza said.            However, when
    asked if Araiza wanted a different interpreter, Araiza’s
    attorney said, “No.”
    2.      The Circuit Court’s Findings of Facts and Conclusions
    of Law
    The circuit court denied Araiza’s Rule 40 petition in
    a written order filed on September 6, 2017.           The circuit court
    found trial counsel credible and that he had advised Araiza a no
    contest plea or guilty conviction “would result in an almost
    certain deportation, but could not provide 100% confirmation
    that [Araiza] would be deported.”         The court also noted that it
    had advised Araiza that her case could have immigration
    consequences and that her attorney must advise her about them.
    By contrast, the circuit court found Araiza’s “claims that
    [trial counsel] did not give her any legal advice, including any
    advice pertaining to possible immigration consequences, are not
    credible.”
    Accordingly, the circuit court found that trial
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    counsel “adequately advised [Araiza] of the possible immigration
    and/or deportation consequences of her no contest pleas.”                   The
    court further concluded that Araiza “had a full understanding of
    what her no contest pleas connoted, [and] their direct
    consequences; and therefore, [Araiza’s] no contest pleas were
    knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily entered.”
    In sum, the circuit court concluded “in light of all
    the circumstances, [Araiza] has failed to meet her burden of
    demonstrating that her counsel’s performance was not objectively
    reasonable,” and that “there were specific errors or omissions
    reflecting her counsel’s lack of skill, judgment, or diligence.”
    The circuit court therefore “conclude[d] that [Araiza] was not
    provided ineffective assistance of counsel under the State of
    Hawai‘i or United States Constitutions[.]”
    B.     ICA Memorandum Opinion
    Araiza appealed to the ICA, arguing that the circuit
    court erred in concluding that trial counsel did not provide
    ineffective assistance of counsel by providing deficient
    immigration advice 8 and, for the first time on appeal, that the
    circuit court did not provide Araiza with a qualified
    interpreter during her Rule 40 hearing.
    8     Araiza also argued in her Rule 40 petition and application for
    writ of certiorari that she was prejudiced by trial counsel’s advice because
    she would not have pleaded no contest had she known that deportation was
    mandatory. The State did not dispute this argument.
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    The ICA affirmed the circuit court’s denial of
    Araiza’s Rule 40 petition.       First, the ICA held that the circuit
    court’s factual finding that trial counsel advised Araiza she
    faced “almost-certain deportation” was not clearly erroneous
    because it was supported by evidence in the record and was based
    on the court’s credibility assessment.
    With respect to the sufficiency of trial counsel’s
    immigration advisement, the ICA decided that “the Supreme Court
    has not consistently characterized the immigration consequence
    of an aggravated felony conviction” and therefore “has not made
    it clear whether the immigration consequence for an aggravated
    felony is absolute or qualified.”         The ICA conducted its own
    analysis of the consequences of an aggravated felony.
    First, it held that the statutory language in 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(iii) and 
    8 U.S.C. § 1228
    (c) regarding aggravated
    felonies “does not support Araiza’s argument” because it “does
    not state that deportation is automatic, mandatory, or certain.”
    Second, the ICA concluded that removal is not
    automatic because “[t]here are also administrative proceedings
    and limited judicial review available,” since immigration judges
    conduct removal proceedings.       While the ICA recognized that
    federal courts have no appellate jurisdiction over final orders
    of removal where the basis for removal was an aggravated felony
    conviction, the ICA concluded that since federal courts retain
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    jurisdiction over questions of law, “even when removal
    proceedings are initiated, the result is not always automatic
    deportation.”
    Third, quoting Chacon v. State, 
    409 S.W.3d 529
    , 537
    (Mo. Ct. App. 2013), the ICA held that “Padilla does not require
    that counsel use specific words to communicate to a defendant
    the consequences of entering a plea.”         And it cited several
    decisions from state and federal courts that approved of
    qualifying language such as “virtual certainty” or “almost
    certainly will.”     Thus, “[t]rial counsel was not ineffective
    when he provided Araiza with correct advice, informing her that
    deportation was ‘almost certain’ if she pleaded no contest.”
    Finally, the ICA held that the circuit court did not
    plainly err by failing to provide Araiza with a qualified
    interpreter based on the presumption that an interpreter acted
    regularly in the course of their duty.          The ICA observed that
    Araiza did not prove the interpreter had not been certified when
    the Rule 40 hearing occurred in June 2017, and that there is no
    requirement an interpreter be formally certified, nor that a
    trial court “express[ly]” find an interpreter to be qualified.
    Thus, the ICA affirmed the circuit court’s order in
    its entirety.    Araiza timely filed an application for writ of
    certiorari.
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    III.    STANDARDS OF REVIEW
    A.     Ineffective Assistance of Counsel
    “The proper standard for claims of ineffective
    assistance of counsel on appeal is whether, ‘viewed as a whole,
    the assistance provided was within the range of competence
    demanded of attorneys in criminal cases.’”             State v. DeLeon, 131
    Hawai‘i 463, 479, 
    319 P.3d 382
    , 398 (2014) (quoting Dan v. State,
    76 Hawai‘i 423, 427, 
    879 P.2d 528
    , 532 (1994)).
    The defendant has the burden of establishing ineffective
    assistance of counsel and must meet the following two-part
    test: 1) that there were specific errors or omissions
    reflecting counsel’s lack of skill, judgment, or diligence;
    and 2) that such errors or omissions resulted in either the
    withdrawal or substantial impairment of a potentially
    meritorious defense.
    
    Id.
     at 478–79, 319 P.3d at 397–98 (quoting State v. Wakisaka,
    102 Hawai‘i 504, 514, 
    78 P.3d 317
    , 327 (2003)).
    Unlike the federal standard, defendant need only show
    “a possible impairment, rather than a probable impairment, of a
    potentially meritorious defense.             A defendant need not prove
    actual prejudice.”        Id. at 479, 319 P.3d at 398 (quoting
    Wakisaka, 102 Hawai‘i at 514, 
    78 P.3d at 327
    ).
    B.     Court Interpreters
    The court has discretion to appoint an “interpreter of
    its own selection[.]”         HRPP Rule 28(b).      Under HRE Rule 604,
    interpreters must be qualified to the same extent as an expert
    witness pursuant to HRE Rule 702.             Thus, as with an expert
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    witness, a trial court’s determination whether a witness is
    qualified to be an interpreter is reviewed for abuse of
    discretion.       HRE Rule 604 cmt. (“Under Hawaii law, preliminary
    determination of [an interpreter’s] qualifications is a matter
    within the discretion of the court[.]”).
    IV.   DISCUSSION
    A.     Araiza’s Trial Counsel Provided Inadequate Immigration
    Advice
    According to trial counsel’s own testimony, 9 he gave
    Araiza three pieces of advice regarding immigration
    consequences: (1) a no contest plea would result in “almost
    certain deportation,” but that (2) his office has had defendants
    “convicted of felonies who are not automatically deported,” and
    that (3) “immigration is handled by federal authorities who do
    not oversee state courts[.]”          He told Araiza, in sum, that she
    needed to weigh “risking automatic deportation” as the result of
    a plea, versus “going to trial and possibly being found
    guilty . . . and then being deported[.]”
    The ICA decided trial counsel’s advisement satisfied
    his professional duty to advise Araiza about the immigration
    consequences of her no contest plea.            For the following reasons,
    9     The circuit court found trial counsel credible, and the ICA
    appropriately held that the circuit court’s finding regarding trial counsel’s
    credibility was not clearly erroneous because there was evidence in the
    record to support it.
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    we disagree.
    1.    The Right to Immigration Advice
    Under Padilla, the sixth amendment of the United
    States Constitution guarantees a defendant the right to receive
    immigration advice from their defense attorney.           
    559 U.S. at 368
    (mandating advice where “the terms of the relevant immigration
    statute are succinct, clear, and explicit in defining the
    removal consequence for [the defendant’s] conviction”).             Such
    advice is necessary to “ensure that no criminal defendant —
    whether a citizen or not — is left to the ‘mercies of
    incompetent counsel.’”      
    Id. at 374
    .
    This same right can be independently found in article
    I, section 14 of the Hawai‘i Constitution since, “under Hawaii’s
    Constitution, defendants are clearly afforded greater protection
    of their right to effective assistance of counsel.”            State v.
    Aplaca, 
    74 Haw. 54
    , 67 n.2, 
    837 P.2d 1298
    , 1305 n.2 (1992).
    We note that the Hawai‘i Legislature has also
    acknowledged that such advice is constitutionally required.
    Indeed, it enacted HRS § 802E-4 and amended HRS § 802E-2 to
    “conform [the statutes] to current federal court holdings,”
    including Padilla, and to ensure a defendant is “adequately
    advise[d] . . . of the defendant’s Sixth Amendment right to
    competent and specific advice on immigration consequences of a
    criminal conviction.”      S. Stand. Comm. Rep. No. 1376, in 2013
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    Senate Journal, at 1518.
    Thus, by statute, the court must inform defendants
    that their attorneys will “investigate and advise” them about
    “the specific impact” the case will have on their immigration
    status, including “[1] detention, [2] deportation, [3] exclusion
    from admission to the United States, or [4] denial of
    naturalization pursuant to the laws of the United States.”               HRS
    §§ 802E-2, 802E-4.     Further, the court has to tell defendants
    that their attorney must advise them whether “detention and
    deportation from the United States will be required.”             HRS
    § 802E-2.
    Accordingly, under Padilla, and independently, under
    article I, section 14 of the Hawai‘i Constitution, defense
    counsel must adequately advise their clients regarding the
    immigration consequences of a plea.         The failure to do so
    renders counsel’s advice deficient under the United States and
    Hawai‘i Constitutions.
    2.     The Immigration Consequences of an Aggravated Felony
    Conviction
    Trial counsel’s advice to Araiza did not capture the
    severity of a plea to an aggravated felony.           See Sessions v.
    Dimaya, 
    138 S. Ct. 1204
    , 1211 (2018) (“[R]emoval is a virtual
    certainty for an alien found to have an aggravated felony
    conviction, no matter how long [she] has previously resided
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    here.”).   Araiza’s conviction for Theft in the First Degree
    constitutes an aggravated felony under 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43)(M)(i) (“[A]n offense that . . . involves fraud or
    deceit in which the loss to the victim or victims exceeds
    $10,000[.]”).    “Aggravated felony” is a term of art: 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43) lists twenty-one categories of offenses that
    constitute aggravated felonies, and any immigrant convicted of
    an aggravated felony “shall . . . be removed.”           
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a) (emphasis added).
    Trial counsel explained that he told Araiza she was
    pleading to a “more serious felony,” and explained the
    difference between class B and class C felonies.            But contrary
    to trial counsel’s apparent belief, the term “aggravated felony”
    does not include all serious felonies, and designation as an
    aggravated felony does not depend on the class of felony.                Lopez
    v. Gonzales, 
    549 U.S. 47
    , 59-60 (2006) (holding that the
    “aggravated felony” classification turns on analogies to federal
    law and noting that state misdemeanors can constitute aggravated
    felonies).
    The consequences of an aggravated felony conviction
    are well-documented.      See, e.g., Richard D. Steel, Steel on
    Immigration Law § 13:16 (2020 ed.); Kathy Brady, Practice
    Advisory: Aggravated Felonies, Immigrant Legal Resource Center
    (Apr. 2017), https://perma.cc/N3WM-97W7.          And Congress has made
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    it clear that “a listed offense should lead to swift removal, no
    matter whether it violates federal, state, or foreign law.”
    Torres v. Lynch, 
    136 S. Ct. 1619
    , 1627 (2016).
    Such a conviction makes an immigrant removable (i.e.,
    deportable) under 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(iii), and unlike
    other grounds of removability, anyone convicted of an aggravated
    felony is “conclusively presumed to be deportable” under 
    8 U.S.C. § 1228
    (c).        Removal is considered mandatory because 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a) provides that an immigrant falling under one of
    the listed categories “shall” be removed.             Further, an
    aggravated felony conviction makes an immigrant ineligible for
    relief from removal, including cancellation of removal, 8 U.S.C.
    § 1229b(a)(3), adjustment of status, 8 U.S.C. § 1229b(b)(1)(C),
    asylum, 10 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(2)(B)(i), or voluntary departure, 11 8
    U.S.C. § 1229c(a)(1).         See Lopez, 
    549 U.S. at
    50–51 (discussing
    these consequences).
    In addition, an aggravated felony conviction reduces
    an immigrant’s procedural protections during removal
    10    Additionally, a conviction for an aggravated felony is grounds
    for termination of asylum status. 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (c)(2)(B).
    11    “Voluntary departure” means choosing to leave voluntarily in lieu
    of being removed. 8 U.S.C. § 1229c(a)(1). It enables immigrants to avoid
    certain grounds for inadmissibility that are contingent on having been
    deported for a crime. See 
    8 U.S.C. § 1182
    (a)(9)(A)(i). However, because it
    is not available to an immigrant convicted of an aggravated felony, it is
    impossible for someone with this type of conviction to avoid becoming
    permanently inadmissible after removal.
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    proceedings.       They are subject to mandatory detention without
    bond.      
    8 U.S.C. § 1226
    (c)(1)(B); Demore v. Kim, 
    538 U.S. 510
    ,
    517–18 (2003) (“Section 1226(c) mandates detention during
    removal proceedings for a limited class of deportable aliens —
    including those convicted of an aggravated felony.”).                But see
    Rodriguez v. Robbins, 
    715 F.3d 1127
    , 1138 (9th Cir. 2013)
    (holding a bond hearing must be held once detention lasts more
    than six months).        Further, immigrants convicted of an
    aggravated felony are subject to expedited removal proceedings
    and, under certain circumstances, can be deported without a
    hearing before an immigration judge.            
    8 U.S.C. § 1228
    (b); see
    also Richard D. Steel, Steel on Immigration Law § 14:5 (2020
    ed.).
    Finally, the immigration consequences of an aggravated
    felony conviction go beyond removal: Such a conviction makes an
    immigrant permanently inadmissible, 
    8 U.S.C. § 1182
    (a)(9)(A)(i),
    and precludes that person from ever becoming an American
    citizen.      Elmakhzoumi v. Sessions, 
    883 F.3d 1170
    , 1172 (9th Cir.
    2018) (holding aggravated felony conviction makes an immigrant
    “permanently ineligible for naturalization”). 12
    12    Advice about these consequences is required by HRS § 802E-2, and at
    least one state has held that defense attorneys are constitutionally
    obligated to advise defendants of all clear statutory consequences of a plea,
    including inadmissibility and ineligibility for naturalization, noting that
    (continued . . .)
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    Thus, trial counsel’s advice to Araiza on the nature
    of the felony to which she pleaded no contest failed to convey
    that “aggravated felony” is a term of art connoting severe and
    permanent consequences.
    3.      Inconsistencies between the ICA’s Analysis and
    Existing Federal Law
    The ICA concluded that because the Supreme Court has
    not “made it clear whether the immigration consequence for an
    aggravated felony conviction is absolute or qualified,”
    deportation was not “certain” given the statutory language and
    procedural protections available.          This analysis is in tension
    with existing federal law.
    First, it is true that the Supreme Court sometimes
    uses qualifying language with respect to an aggravated felony
    conviction.     E.g., Dimaya, 
    138 S. Ct. at 1211
     (“virtual
    certainty”); Chaidez v. United States, 
    568 U.S. 342
    , 352 (2013)
    (“nearly an automatic result”).         But the Court has not qualified
    the magnitude of risk a criminal defendant must understand when
    contemplating a plea to an aggravated felony.            In Padilla, the
    defendant pleaded guilty to transporting a large quantity of
    marijuana.     
    559 U.S. at 359
    .     The Supreme Court recognized that
    his plea “made his deportation virtually mandatory,” and
    doing so is the “prevailing professional norm[]” for criminal defense
    attorneys. Diaz v. State, 
    896 N.W.2d 723
    , 730-31 (Iowa 2017) (citing ABA
    standards).
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    therefore held that “constitutionally competent counsel would
    have advised him that his conviction for drug distribution made
    him subject to automatic deportation.”          
    Id. at 359-60
     (emphases
    added).
    More recently, in Lee v. United States, 
    137 S. Ct. 1958
    , 1968–69 (2017), the Supreme Court considered the
    significance of knowing deportation was “certain” versus “almost
    certain.”    In Lee, the defendant pleaded guilty to an aggravated
    felony after his attorney failed to advise him of immigration
    consequences, which the Court explained made the defendant
    subject to “mandatory deportation.”          
    Id. at 1963
    .    The
    government conceded that Lee’s attorney had been deficient but
    argued that Lee had not been prejudiced because he had no viable
    defense for trial.      
    Id. at 1964
    .      The Supreme Court rejected
    that argument, holding that while the difference between
    “certain” and “almost certain” deportation may seem slight, a
    defendant concerned about immigration consequences should know
    that deportation is “certain” because it may affect their
    decision:
    But for his attorney’s incompetence, Lee would have known
    that accepting the plea agreement would certainly lead to
    deportation. Going to trial? Almost certainly. If
    deportation were the “determinative issue” for an
    individual in plea discussions, as it was for Lee; if that
    individual had strong connections to this country and no
    other, as did Lee; and if the consequences of taking a
    chance at trial were not markedly harsher than pleading, as
    in this case, that “almost” could make all the difference.
    
    Id.
     at 1968–69.
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    Thus, the ICA’s conclusion that “the Supreme Court has
    not consistently characterized this immigration consequence of
    an aggravated felony conviction,” overlooks the Court’s clear
    admonition that defendants must know if a plea will “certainly
    lead to deportation.”      
    Id.
    Second, the ICA’s conclusion that “[t]he relevant
    statutory language [in 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(iii)] does not
    state that deportation is automatic, mandatory, or certain,”
    conflicts with the plain language of the statute and
    misapprehends the meaning of “deportable.”          An earlier section
    of 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
     provides that “deportable” means an immigrant
    “shall . . . be removed.”        
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a); see also Padilla,
    
    559 U.S. at 368-69
     (explaining removal is “presumptively
    mandatory” because “the text of the statute . . . specifically
    commands removal”); Encarnacion v. State, 
    763 S.E.2d 463
    , 465
    (Ga. 2014) (“The [Immigration and Nationality Act] . . . defines
    ‘deportable’ to mean that the alien is subject to mandatory,
    rather than discretionary, removal. . . .          Thus, the applicable
    federal statutes make it clear that a conviction for an
    aggravated felony automatically triggers the removal consequence
    and almost always leads to deportation.” (citations omitted)).
    Consequently, the ICA’s reading of the statute puts Hawai‘i at
    odds with other jurisdictions’ interpretations of “shall” in 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    .
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    Third, the ICA concluded removal is not automatic
    because “[t]here are . . . administrative proceedings and
    limited judicial review available to defendants convicted of an
    aggravated felony making deportation or removal less than
    automatic,” citing 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(a)(1) (an immigration judge
    (IJ) conducts proceedings deciding removability).            This is
    incorrect: While an IJ conducts most removal proceedings, they
    do not necessarily conduct expedited removal proceedings for
    aggravated felonies, which are governed by 
    8 U.S.C. § 1228
    , not
    8 U.S.C. § 1229a.     Moreover, under 
    8 U.S.C. § 1228
    , immigrants
    who are not LPRs or who have conditional LPR status can be
    removed automatically without a hearing.          
    8 U.S.C. § 1228
    ; see
    also Richard D. Steel, Steel on Immigration Law § 14:5 (2020
    ed.).
    Accordingly, the ICA’s reasoning is erroneous.            We now
    address what immigration advice a defense attorney must convey
    to their clients to provide effective assistance of counsel
    under the United States and Hawai‘i Constitutions.
    4.    In Order to be Effective, a Criminal Defense Attorney
    Must Accurately Convey that Deportation will be
    “Required”
    In assessing the sufficiency of a defense attorney’s
    immigration advice, the court must determine whether the advice
    given accurately conveys the legal consequences of a plea and
    the magnitude of the risk.       United States v. Bonilla, 
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    980, 984 (9th Cir. 2011).       Rather than focusing solely on the
    defense attorney’s specific wording, “the focus of the court’s
    inquiry must be on the essence of the information conveyed to
    the client to ensure that counsel clearly and accurately
    informed the client of the immigration consequences under
    federal law in terms the client could understand.”
    Budziszewski, 142 A.3d at 250.
    Even technically-accurate immigration advice can be
    deficient if the advice as a whole “understates the likelihood
    that [a defendant] would be removed.”         United States v.
    Rodriguez-Vega, 
    797 F.3d 781
    , 791 (9th Cir. 2015); Encarnacion,
    763 S.E.2d at 466 (“In light of [the defendant’s] conviction for
    an aggravated felony, defense counsel had no reason to believe
    there was a realistic probability that his client would escape
    deportation.    It follows that defense counsel performed
    deficiently by failing to advise petitioner that he would be
    deported as a result of his guilty plea[.]” (emphasis added));
    see also State v. Blake, 
    132 A.3d 1282
    , 1292 (N.J. Super. Ct.
    App. Div. 2016) (“[A]n attorney may fail to provide effective
    assistance if he or she minimizes the risk of removal, and
    thereby misleads a client.”).
    When defense counsel tells a defendant they might not
    be deported despite being removable, the Connecticut Supreme
    Court has set forth a two-step test:
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    First, the court must determine whether counsel complied
    with Padilla by explaining to the client the deportation
    consequences set forth in federal law. The advice must be
    accurate, and it must be given in terms the client could
    comprehend. If the petitioner proves that counsel did not
    meet these standards, then counsel’s advice may be deemed
    deficient under Padilla. If counsel gave the advice
    required under Padilla, but also expressed doubt about the
    likelihood of enforcement, the court must also look to the
    totality of the immigration advice given by counsel to
    determine whether counsel’s enforcement advice effectively
    negated the import of counsel’s advice required under
    Padilla about the meaning of federal law.
    Budziszewski, 142 A.3d at 251.
    In Budziszewski, the defense attorney customarily
    advised his noncitizen clients that “if the law is strictly
    enforced, it will result in deportation, but it’s been my
    experience that the law is not strictly enforced.               So you take a
    chance.” 13     Id. at 247 (alterations omitted).         The Connecticut
    Supreme Court explained that “counsel is not required to provide
    the client with predictions about whether or when federal
    authorities will apprehend the client and initiate deportation
    proceedings,” but that if counsel does give such advice,
    “counsel must still impress upon the client that once federal
    authorities apprehend the client, deportation will be
    practically inevitable under federal law.”             Id. at 250-51.
    13    The Connecticut Supreme Court remanded the case for a new hearing
    because while the attorney testified to “his usual practice,” “[t]he habeas
    court made no findings of fact regarding what [the attorney] actually told
    the petitioner about what federal law mandated or what [the attorney] might
    have stated about the likelihood of enforcement.” Budziszewski, 142 A.3d at
    247, 251. The court also noted that “there was no separate consideration by
    the habeas court about whether counsel’s advice regarding enforcement negated
    the import of counsel’s advice about what federal law mandated regarding
    deportation.” Id. at 251.
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    Other states have similarly recognized that while
    there is no magic phrase an attorney must use, “[c]ounsel . . .
    was obligated to provide to his client, in language that the
    client could comprehend, the information that presumptively
    mandatory deportation would have been the legal consequence of
    pleading guilty.”     Commonwealth v. DeJesus, 
    9 N.E.3d 789
    , 795
    (Mass. 2014).    In DeJesus, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial
    Court found advice that the defendant would “face deportation”
    and would be “eligible for deportation” insufficient because it
    did not advise the defendant “that all of the conditions
    necessary for removal would be met by the defendant’s guilty
    plea, and that, under Federal law, there would be virtually no
    avenue for discretionary relief once the defendant pleaded
    guilty and that fact came to the attention of Federal
    authorities.”    
    Id. at 796
    ; see also Diaz v. State, 
    896 N.W.2d 723
    , 732 (Iowa 2017) (finding ineffective assistance of counsel
    where “counsel never mentioned the crime constituted an
    aggravated felony, and never attempted to explain the sweeping
    ramifications of that classification” (citations omitted)).
    Further, HRS § 802E-2 requires a trial court to advise
    defendants that they have the “right” to be given specific
    immigration advice and that their attorney “must investigate and
    advise” them if their plea would mean that “detention and
    deportation from the United States will be required.”             HRS
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    § 802E-2 (emphasis added); see In re Yung-Cheng Tsai, 
    351 P.3d 138
    , 143 (Wash. 2015) (explaining that the “plain language” of
    Washington’s immigration-advisement statute establishes an
    “unequivocal” right to immigration advice).
    Here, we hold that under the United States and Hawaiʻi
    Constitutions, Araiza received inadequate immigration advice to
    meet the requirements of effective assistance of counsel.                That
    counsel used the phrase “almost certain deportation” does not
    end the inquiry; trial counsel’s statements must be considered
    as a whole.    “[A]lmost certain deportation” was not the extent
    of his advice — he also downplayed the severity of the risk of
    deportation by telling Araiza that his office had seen
    defendants convicted of felonies who were not deported and that
    immigration officials do not know about state court proceedings.
    These statements were very similar to the advice at issue in
    Budziszewski, and we find them concerning for the same reason as
    the Connecticut Supreme Court: The combined effect was to convey
    that deportation was very likely if Araiza pleaded no contest —
    and possibly more likely if she went to trial — but that there
    was a realistic possibility she would not be deported because it
    had not happened to other similarly-situated defendants.
    Indeed, the equivocal nature of trial counsel’s advice is
    evident from the fact that he told her a plea was “risking
    automatic deportation,” whereas being found guilty after a trial
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    meant she would be deported.
    These statements failed to accurately convey the
    serious legal consequence of Araiza’s plea: “that all of the
    conditions necessary for removal would be met by the defendant’s
    guilty plea, and that, under Federal law, there would be
    virtually no avenue for discretionary relief[.]”            DeJesus, 9
    N.E.3d at 796; Encarnacion, 763 S.E.2d at 466 (“In light of [the
    defendant’s] conviction for an aggravated felony, defense
    counsel had no reason to believe there was a realistic
    probability that his client would escape deportation.”).
    Moreover, since Araiza’s plea paperwork (and the
    court’s later oral advisement) informed her that trial counsel
    had to tell her if detention and deportation would be
    “required,” trial counsel’s advice that deportation was “almost”
    certain because some defendants were not deported created a
    misleading impression that deportation was not legally required.
    See Bonilla, 637 F.3d at 984–85 (concluding lawyer’s omission
    could mislead defendant into believing there would not be
    adverse immigration consequences).
    While the ICA is correct that, as noted in Chacon, 
    409 S.W.3d at 537
    , “Padilla does not require that counsel use
    specific words to communicate to a defendant the consequences of
    entering a guilty plea,” HRS § 802E-2 promises that defense
    attorneys will advise their clients if “detention and
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    deportation from the United States will be required.”                Indeed,
    the ICA’s holding that trial counsel did not need to advise
    Araiza that deportation was “automatic, mandatory, or certain”
    renders HRS § 802E-2’s requirement meaningless.              Accordingly, we
    hold that defense attorneys must advise their clients using
    language that conveys that deportation “will be required” by
    applicable immigration law for an aggravated felony conviction.
    Since Araiza’s trial counsel failed to adequately advise Araiza
    of the immigration consequences of her plea, the circuit court
    erred in concluding he provided her effective assistance of
    counsel.
    B.     When a Trial Court Appoints an Interpreter who has not been
    Certified by the Judiciary, the Court Must Conduct a Brief
    Inquiry on the Record to Establish that the Interpreter is
    Qualified
    Araiza alleges that the circuit court plainly erred
    during her Rule 40 hearing by appointing an interpreter who,
    according to Araiza, was not “certified and/or qualified.”
    Nothing in the record demonstrates the interpreter’s
    qualifications.        It appears Araiza’s interpreter was neither a
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    certified 14 interpreter nor a registered 15 interpreter for the
    Judiciary when the Rule 40 hearing was held in June 2017.                   While
    we decline to decide whether the appointment of this interpreter
    constituted plain error in light of our disposition of this
    case, we offer some guidance on the procedures needed to ensure
    an interpreter is qualified.
    “All persons involved in proceedings before the Hawai‘i
    State Courts, regardless of literacy or proficiency in the
    English language, have the right to equal access to the courts
    and to services and programs provided by the Hawai‘i State
    Courts.”      HRCSLI Rule 1.2. 16     A trial court has the discretion to
    appoint an interpreter “of its own selection.”              HRPP Rule 28(b).
    And HRCSLI Rule 14.1 does not require formal certification, only
    that an interpreter be qualified under court rules.
    14    “Certified” means that the interpreter has passed the applicable
    language exam from the National Center for State Courts. Hawai‘i’s Office of
    Equality and Access to the Courts (OEAC) uses six tiers of designation for
    interpreters that range from “registered” to “certified master.” In order to
    be deemed “certified” (tier 4), the interpreter must receive a score of 70%
    on the exam. To be a “certified master” (tier 6), the interpreter must
    receive 80% on the exam. Right now, there is no tier 5 designation for
    spoken-language interpreters. HRCSLI Appendix A.
    15    “Registered” means that a person has fulfilled the minimum
    requirements necessary to be on the list of interpreters for the judiciary.
    In order to be registered, the lowest available tier, an interpreter must
    pass a written English proficiency test and an ethics exam, attend a 2-day
    basic orientation workshop, and pass a criminal background check. However,
    proficiency in the foreign language is not assessed. HRCSLI Appendix A.
    16    In March 2019, this court ordered that the previous version of
    these rules, the Hawaiʻi Rules for Certification of Spoken and Sign Language
    Interpreters, be vacated and replaced with the HRCSLI, effective July 2019.
    This change did not affect the substance of the relevant rules.
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    In 1995, the Chief Justice adopted policies for
    interpreted proceedings in the state courts, which were
    incorporated into the HRCSLI as Appendix B.           As relevant here,
    section I(D) governs qualifications of interpreters and provides
    that if an interpreter is not on the list of recommended
    interpreters, the court must conduct an inquiry:
    Courts should use interpreters who can (a) understand terms
    generally used in the type of proceeding before the court,
    (b) explain these terms in English and the other language
    being used, and (c) interpret these terms into the other
    language being used. If a list of recommended interpreters
    is not available, or if it appears an interpreter cannot
    understand or interpret the terms used in the proceeding,
    the judge should conduct a brief examination of the
    interpreter to determine if the interpreter is qualified to
    interpret the proceeding. When conducting the examination
    the judge should, if possible, seek the assistance of an
    interpreter whose qualifications have been established.
    HRCSLI Appendix B, § I(D) (emphases added).
    HRCSLI Appendix B comports with the HRE, which
    establishes that an interpreter is regarded as an expert under
    HRE Rule 702 “for the purpose of determining his qualifications
    to interpret or to translate in the matter at issue.”             HRE Rule
    604 cmt.   In other words, in accordance with HRE Rule 702, there
    must be evidence in the record that the interpreter was
    “qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience,
    training, or education.”       The commentary to HRE Rule 604 notes
    that the rule is identical to the Federal Rules of Evidence Rule
    604.
    If an interpreter has been certified by the judiciary,
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    there is often no need for the court to conduct an inquiry
    because the interpreter has already been qualified through
    “training and education.” 17       27 Charles Alan Wright, Arthur R.
    Miller & Victor J. Gold, Federal Practice & Procedure § 6054 (2d
    ed. 2020) (“As a practical matter, however, a court usually need
    not exercise its power to reexamine the qualifications of a
    certified interpreter.”).        However, when an interpreter has not
    been certified, some other kind of foundation of their
    qualifications must be established: “Rule 604 does not establish
    a specific procedure for the courts to follow in determining
    interpreter qualifications.        One way or the other, however, the
    record must reflect that the individual in question had the
    requisite ability to interpret.”           Id.
    Accordingly, we hold that, if a court appoints an
    interpreter who is not certified by the judiciary as proficient
    in the foreign language, the court “should conduct a brief
    examination of the interpreter to determine if the interpreter
    17    Because registered interpreters are not assessed for language
    proficiency, that designation may be insufficient to demonstrate expert
    qualifications under HRE Rules 604 and 702. Similarly, certification in the
    applicable foreign language may be insufficient if the party needing an
    interpreter speaks a different dialect: “[W]here a language features multiple
    dialects, an interpreter certified for that language might not be
    sufficiently fluent in the specific dialect employed by a given witness. In
    such a case, the certified interpreter would not qualify as an expert under
    Rule 702[.]” 27 Charles Alan Wright, Arthur R. Miller & Victor J. Gold,
    Federal Practice & Procedure § 6054 (2d ed. 2020) (footnote omitted).
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    is qualified to interpret the proceeding.”          HRCSLI Appendix B,
    § I(D).
    V.   CONCLUSION
    For the reasons set forth in this opinion, we vacate
    the ICA’s April 23, 2020 judgment on appeal and the circuit
    court’s findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order denying
    petitioner’s petition to vacate, set aside or correct illegal
    sentence through a writ of habeas corpus pursuant to HRPP Rule
    40 filed on September 6, 2017, and remand to the circuit court
    for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
    Hayden Aluli                              /s/ Mark E. Recktenwald
    for petitioner
    /s/ Paula A. Nakayama
    Mark R. Simonds                           /s/ Sabrina S. McKenna
    for respondent
    (Peter A. Hanano                          /s/ Michael D. Wilson
    on the brief)
    /s/ R. Mark Browning
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