Iowa Supreme Court Attorney Disciplinary Board v. Attorney Doe No. 762 , 839 N.W.2d 620 ( 2013 )


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  •                IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
    No. 13–0856
    Filed November 8, 2013
    IOWA SUPREME COURT ATTORNEY DISCIPLINARY BOARD,
    Complainant,
    vs.
    ATTORNEY DOE NO. 762,
    Respondent,
    JANE DOE and JOHN DOE,
    Appellants.
    On review of the report of the Grievance Commission of the
    Supreme Court of Iowa.
    A witness in a proceeding before the Grievance Commission of the
    Supreme Court of Iowa filed an interlocutory appeal after the commission
    quashed the appearance of her counsel. REVERSED AND REMANDED.
    Charles L. Harrington and Amanda K. Robinson, Des Moines, for
    complainant.
    Max E. Kirk and Eashaan Vajpeyi of Ball, Kirk & Holm, P.C.,
    Waterloo, and Heather A. Prendergast of Roberts, Stevens, Prendergast &
    Guthrie, P.L.L.C., Waterloo, for respondent.
    Roxanne Barton Conlin of Roxanne Conlin & Associates, P.C., Des
    Moines, for appellants.
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    APPEL, Justice.
    We are called upon to consider whether a witness testifying before
    the Grievance Commission of the Supreme Court of Iowa is entitled to
    the presence of counsel. In this case, the commission president entered
    an order which, among other things, quashed the appearance of an
    attorney for a witness before the commission.     We conclude a person
    called upon to be a witness before our grievance commission may be
    represented by counsel for the limited purpose of protecting rights
    personal to the witness in the proceeding.
    I. Factual Background and Proceedings.
    A client, Jane Doe, filed a complaint with the Iowa Supreme Court
    Attorney Disciplinary Board alleging she was subjected to sexual
    misconduct by an attorney, Attorney Doe, when she and her husband
    were Attorney Doe’s clients. The Board subsequently filed a complaint
    against Attorney Doe on the basis of Jane’s allegations. A division of the
    grievance commission was appointed to hear the complaint.             The
    commission scheduled a hearing for June 24, 2013.
    On May 16, attorney Roxanne Conlin filed an appearance on behalf
    of Jane before the commission and requested a continuance of the
    scheduled hearing. Conlin advised the commission that Jane had filed a
    civil lawsuit in Black Hawk County related to events alleged in the
    complaint and that it would be unfair to require her to testify before the
    commission without her counsel present.      Conlin further advised she
    would be out of the state when the hearing was scheduled to receive
    treatment to ensure full recovery from a recent stroke. She asked that
    the hearing be continued so that she could be present when her client
    testified before the commission.
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    On May 23, Attorney Doe responded by objecting to the
    appearance and request for continuance.           Attorney Doe noted the
    hearing was originally scheduled for February 13, 2013, and was
    continued at the Board’s request so further discovery could take place.
    Attorney Doe emphasized that attorney disciplinary proceedings are
    intended to be held within a short time after the complaint has been
    filed. See Iowa Ct. R. 35.7(1) (stating hearings should not be held more
    than ninety days after complaint has been served). Attorney Doe noted
    that Jane filed her civil action on September 10, 2012, and that Conlin
    had ample time to file an appearance sooner.
    Attorney Doe took no position on whether Conlin should be
    allowed to enter an appearance on behalf of Jane as the complaining
    witness, except to state that he “objects to attorney Conlin participating
    in any capacity resembling that of an attorney representing the Board or
    aiding in the Board’s prosecution of the matter.”     Attorney Doe urged
    that Conlin be “precluded from acting as counsel or co-counsel on behalf
    of the Board during the hearing on the matter.”
    In its response, the Board did not object to Conlin’s appearance or
    request for a continuance.        The Board remarked the requested
    continuance was not lengthy and noted Attorney Doe had previously
    moved for an indefinite stay of the proceedings pending the outcome of
    the civil suit. According to the Board, in light of Attorney Doe’s request
    for a more lengthy delay, Conlin’s request for a brief delay seemed
    reasonable.   The Board observed that Conlin’s stroke and subsequent
    recovery were not predictable and that, even if Conlin had filed an earlier
    appearance, the parties would still have had to address the scheduling
    conflict.
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    On the same day Attorney Doe and the Board filed their responses,
    the commission president issued an order.        The order stated that
    hearings before the commission were confidential and that there was no
    rule entitling a witness to have an attorney present or to have an
    attorney participate in proceedings before the commission.     The order
    noted that while Jane argued it would be unfair to require her to testify
    without counsel present, she had not set forth the specific nature of the
    alleged unfairness. Further, the order indicated the commission had not
    found authority supporting Jane’s position. The order indicated fairness
    to the respondent was the paramount concern before the commission
    and the rules requiring confidentiality of the proceedings were for the
    benefit and protection of the respondent. The order found the absence of
    her attorney from the hearing would cause no unfairness to Jane. Based
    on the above reasoning, the order quashed Conlin’s appearance and
    denied her request for a continuance. The order also admonished Conlin
    that to the extent she had already participated in commission
    proceedings, they were confidential under Iowa Court Rule 36.18 and
    were not to be disclosed to third parties except in very limited
    circumstances.
    Jane sought interlocutory review of the commission’s order, which
    we granted.
    II. Standard of Review.
    We review rulings of the grievance commission de novo.        Iowa
    Supreme Ct. Att’y Disciplinary Bd. v. K.G.T., 
    722 N.W.2d 787
    , 789 (Iowa
    2006).
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    III. Discussion.
    A. Context of Issues Raised on Appeal.
    1. Overview of Iowa attorney disciplinary process and related
    caselaw.      This court bears the responsibility of ensuring that Iowa
    lawyers comply with the Iowa Rules of Professional Conduct. We fulfill
    this responsibility employing a process established through our court
    rules.     See generally Iowa Ct. Rs. chs. 34–36 (containing the rules
    governing the Board, attorney discipline process, and commission).
    Under the established process, the Iowa Supreme Court Attorney
    Disciplinary Board may investigate complaints regarding attorney
    misconduct.      Id. r. 34.8(1)(c).   When, based on the investigation, the
    Board determines prosecution is warranted, the Board may file a
    complaint against the attorney with the commission.              Id. rs. 34.11(5),
    36.3. A panel of commissioners is then selected to hear the evidence, see
    id. r. 36.14(1), and may either dismiss the case, issue a private
    admonition, or recommend that we reprimand the attorney or suspend or
    revoke the attorney’s license to practice law, id. r. 35.10. In any case in
    which the commission recommends a reprimand, suspension, or
    revocation, the commission files findings of fact, conclusions of law, and
    recommendations in this court.          Id.    While we are respectful of the
    commission’s findings, conclusions, and recommendations, we engage in
    a de novo review of the record. E.g., Iowa Supreme Ct. Att’y Disciplinary
    Bd. v. McCarthy, 
    814 N.W.2d 596
    , 601 (Iowa 2012).                The overarching
    purpose of this disciplinary process is to aid this court in exercising its
    responsibilities in regulating the legal profession in Iowa.
    The rules governing our disciplinary procedure also contain a
    number      of   provisions   related   to    confidentiality.    For   instance,
    commission hearings are closed to the public. Id. r. 36.14(1). Records
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    and documents related to a disciplinary hearing are confidential, though
    certain documents become public if the commission recommends that we
    reprimand the attorney or suspend or revoke the attorney’s license. Id.
    rs. 35.7(1), 36.18(1).      In such situations, only the complaint, the
    commission’s       report   of    reprimand,     and     the   commission’s
    recommendations for license suspension or revocation become public
    documents.     Id. r. 36.18(2).   A witness who appears in a disciplinary
    proceeding is bound by confidentiality rules and must swear by oath or
    affirmation to that effect.       Id. r. 36.18(4).     Testimony before the
    commission, as long as it does not become part of a document subject to
    disclosure under rule 36.18(2), is not subject to discovery, cannot be
    obtained by subpoena, and is inadmissible in any civil proceeding. See
    id. r. 36.18(3). Further, testimony with respect to a complaint submitted
    to the commission is privileged and cannot provide the foundation for a
    separate lawsuit. Id. r. 35.24(1). However, the commission may disclose
    information regarding possible criminal violations to appropriate law
    enforcement authorities, to attorney disciplinary authorities, and to the
    Iowa Commission on Judicial Qualifications. Id. r. 36.18(7).
    Our rules provide that an attorney who is a respondent in a
    disciplinary proceeding is entitled to representation by counsel.     Id. r.
    36.14(3). Our rules do not address whether a witness is entitled to have
    an attorney present at a disciplinary hearing and, if so, to what extent a
    witness’s counsel may participate in the proceeding. There is similarly
    no applicable caselaw on these issues.
    2. Positions of the parties.        Jane argues the presentation of
    evidence during a hearing before the commission must conform to the
    Iowa Rules of Civil Procedure and the Iowa Rules of Evidence. See Iowa
    Ct. R. 36.14(4).     She points out that in civil proceedings before the
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    district court, which are conducted in accordance with these rules,
    counsel for witnesses are routinely in attendance. Jane sees no reason
    not to take a similar approach in hearings before the commission,
    particularly in light of rule 36.14(4)’s explicit incorporation of the
    procedural and evidentiary rules ordinarily applied in district court
    proceedings.
    Jane concedes no rule expressly authorizes counsel to be present,
    but puts forward the opposite side of the coin—namely, that no rule
    prohibits the participation of counsel for a witness. She then cites policy
    reasons for allowing her access to counsel during her testimony.         For
    instance, Jane emphasizes that providing an environment in which she
    may testify “fully, fairly, and comfortably” is in the commission’s interest.
    She notes the subject matter in this case involves an alleged sexual
    assault, which, she argues, is a subject matter the legislature has
    recognized in other contexts as particularly sensitive. See Iowa Code §
    229A.5A(1) (2013) (granting “[a]ny person compelled to appear under a
    demand for oral testimony” the right to be “accompanied, represented,
    and advised by counsel at the person’s own expense”).            Jane more
    generally argues the exclusion of counsel will undermine the fairness and
    integrity of proceedings before the commission.
    Jane further asserts the Sixth Amendment right to counsel should
    apply to a witness in a proceeding before the commission when the
    witness has a vested interest in the proceeding. According to Jane, she
    has a vested interest at stake because her testimony, even if confidential,
    may have an impact on the civil proceeding for the reason that Attorney
    Doe’s counsel will have knowledge of it.
    In addition, Jane argues that while a witness may not have a right
    to participate generally in the proceedings, he or she should nonetheless
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    be afforded the right to counsel to take advantage of certain protections,
    such as the privilege against self-incrimination and the attorney–client
    privilege. Jane, quoting People v. Ianniello, 
    235 N.E.2d 439
    , 443 (N.Y.
    1968), notes that “ ‘[f]aced with a confusing variety of rules concerning
    the existence and scope of his privileges, a witness should not be
    required to make these choices unaided by his lawyer.’ ” See also People
    v. Smays, 
    594 N.Y.S.2d 101
    , 105 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 1993) (discussing
    Ianniello).
    Jane argues confidentiality concerns regarding the presence of her
    counsel during her testimony are misplaced. Jane asserts her counsel
    will be bound by the same confidentiality requirements as others who
    attend the hearing. See Op. of the Justices to the Governor, 
    371 N.E.2d 422
    , 424–25 (Mass. 1977) (holding the presence of counsel for a witness
    did not violate grand jury secrecy). Jane also notes her counsel would be
    bound by the Iowa Rules of Professional Conduct.
    Finally, Jane asserts an overly broad application of confidentiality
    rules may violate First Amendment rights.       She cites cases in which
    courts have found rules prohibiting disclosure unless and until formal
    charges were filed was an unconstitutional restriction on free speech.
    See In re Brooks, 
    678 A.2d 140
    , 146 (N.H. 1996); R.M. v. Supreme Ct.,
    
    883 A.2d 369
    , 381 (N.J. 2005); Doe v. Doe, 
    127 S.W.3d 728
    , 736 (Tenn.
    2004).
    The Board, for the most part, sides with Jane. According to the
    Board, past practice has been to allow witnesses to be accompanied by
    counsel when testifying before the commission.         The Board notes a
    complaining witness often has a pending civil action against the attorney
    who is subject to the grievance proceeding. The Board states its counsel
    is often asked for legal advice by complaining witnesses, but that it is not
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    permitted to provide such advice. The Board agrees with Jane that the
    presence of a witness’s counsel will not compromise the confidentiality of
    the proceeding. The Board further notes alleged victims of sexual assault
    may have to face their perpetrators in grievance commission hearings
    and argues the presence of counsel will allow these victims to
    successfully navigate the proceedings.
    Attorney Doe objects to the presence of an attorney for Jane.
    Attorney Doe asserts Jane’s primary motivation is to protect her civil
    cause of action against him. He notes Jane has cited no specific rule of
    civil procedure or evidence requiring the presence of counsel for a
    witness in a proceeding before the commission.
    As to the protection of privileges, Attorney Doe asserts Board
    counsel will be able to object to questions that might inappropriately
    delve into privileged communications.     Attorney Doe also argues that
    Jane’s counsel can properly instruct her prior to the hearing as to how to
    assert a privilege and that, if a controversy arises as to whether a
    communication is privileged, the commission can determine whether a
    privilege is involved and instruct her whether to answer following an in
    camera examination.     Further, Attorney Doe asserts our court rules
    preclude the use of testimony given before the commission in a
    subsequent civil action. He cites Iowa Court Rule 36.18(3), which states
    that records and papers before the commission are generally “privileged
    and confidential and . . . not subject to discovery, subpoena, or other
    means of legal compulsion.” He also cites Iowa Code section 147.135(2),
    which provides similar protections for medical peer review records.
    Therefore, Attorney Doe argues, the risk of adverse action resulting from
    an inadvertent disclosure of privileged information is minimal.
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    B. Overview     of   Representation    of   Witnesses    in   Legal
    Proceedings.
    1. Attorney disciplinary procedures in other states. In light of the
    lack of express Iowa authority on the issue, we look to the law of other
    states to provide illumination on the issues posed here.       Like Iowa,
    however, the disciplinary rules of most states are silent on the question
    of whether witnesses are entitled to legal counsel.      Virginia and the
    Virgin Islands, however, expressly authorize a complaining witness to
    have an attorney present. See Rules of the Supreme Ct. of VA, Pt. 6, § 4,
    para. 13–12(E); V.I. Ct. R. 207.1.8(a)(10). The parties have not cited any
    case on whether a witness may have counsel in attendance or
    participating in an attorney disciplinary proceeding while he or she is
    testifying from any jurisdiction that does not have an explicit rule
    relating to the presence of counsel for witnesses.      Further, in some
    states, disciplinary proceedings are open to the public.            Where
    disciplinary proceedings are open to the public, confidentiality concerns
    such as those raised in this case may not be present.
    2. State and federal grand jury proceedings.      Both parties draw
    analogies to support their position from grand jury proceedings.      The
    Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that “[n]o
    persons shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous
    crime, unless on a present or indictment of a Grand Jury.” Ordinarily,
    counsel for a witness is not allowed to be present during a federal grand
    jury proceeding. See In re Groban, 
    352 U.S. 330
    , 333, 
    77 S. Ct. 510
    ,
    513, 
    1 L. Ed. 2d 376
    , 380 (1957). Witnesses, however, are permitted to
    consult with lawyers before and after grand jury testimony. Further, it
    appears to be a common practice to allow a witness to leave the grand
    jury room to consult with counsel outside the presence of the grand jury.
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    The exclusion of lawyers for witnesses from federal grand jury
    proceedings when their clients testify has been subject to intense debate.
    The American Bar Association and the National Association of Criminal
    Defense Lawyers have all proposed that counsel for witnesses be allowed
    into the grand jury room during questioning.         See John F. Decker,
    Legislating New Federalism: The Call for Grand Jury Reform in the States,
    
    58 Okla. L
    . Rev. 341, 367 & nn.243–44 (2005) [hereinafter Decker].
    Advocates for this position assert that grand jury proceedings can be
    intimidating, that witnesses may be confused by questioning, and that
    lay witnesses do not fully understand the implications of questions
    implicating constitutional, statutory, or common law privileges.      Id. at
    386; Gerald B. Lefcourt, Curbing Abuse of the Grand Jury, 81 Judicature
    196, 198 (1998) [hereinafter Lefcourt]; see also United States v. Soto, 
    574 F. Supp. 986
    , 993 (D. Conn. 1983).       These advocates further cite the
    shuttling of a witness back and forth from the jury room to meet with
    counsel as an inefficient and demeaning process.       See Decker at 369;
    Lefcourt at 197.
    Many states have, by statute, elected to expand the availability of
    legal counsel for witnesses in grand jury proceedings beyond the federal
    model.    According to a recent commentator, twenty-four states have
    created a statutory right to counsel of some kind for witnesses in grand
    jury proceedings. Decker at 369 & n.266. Additionally, thirteen states
    provide for the right to counsel for all witnesses, seven limit the right to
    targets of the investigation, two condition the right to counsel on a grant
    of immunity, and one conditions the right to counsel on a waiver of
    immunity.    See id. at 370 & nn.267–70.         The Iowa rule does not
    expressly provide for the representation of witnesses. See Iowa R. Crim.
    P. 2.3.
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    3. Administrative   proceedings.      The   Federal   Administrative
    Procedure Act provides that a subpoenaed witness is “entitled to be
    accompanied, represented, and advised by counsel” in an administrative
    proceeding. 5 U.S.C. § 555(b) (2013). Many federal agencies, however,
    by rule expand on the role of a witness’s counsel in these proceedings.
    For instance, a number of federal agencies allow an attorney to advise a
    witness during the proceeding, make objections on the record in
    connection with the examination of the attorney’s client, briefly question
    the client at the conclusion of the client’s examination for clarification
    purposes, and make summary notes during the testimony for the use
    and benefit of the witness.     See, e.g., 12 C.F.R. § 308.148(b) (2013)
    (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation); id. § 622.105(b) (Farm Credit
    Administration); 17 C.F.R. § 11.7(c)(1) (Commodity Futures Trading
    Commission); id. § 203.7(c) (Securities and Exchange Commission); see
    also 47 C.F.R. § 1.27 (Federal Communications Commission).            Some
    agencies provide fairly elaborate regulations regarding the participation
    of counsel for a witness. See, e.g., 16 C.F.R. § 2.9(b) (prohibiting, in a
    proceeding before the Federal Trade Commission, a witness’s counsel
    from consulting with his or her client while a question to the client is
    pending, except with respect to questions involving “protected status,”
    elaborating on the procedure to follow in the event of an objection, and
    elaborating on the hearing official’s role in presiding over a proceeding in
    which there is an objection); id. § 1605.8 (elaborating on the procedure to
    follow in making objections before the Consumer Product Safety
    Commission).
    The Iowa Administrative Procedure Act does not contain a
    provision comparable to the federal provision relating to the right of
    witnesses to be represented by counsel. However, the Iowa Division of
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    Credit Unions grants witnesses testifying during formal investigative
    proceedings the right to be “represented and advised by counsel” in
    much the same manner as federal agencies who allow an attorney to
    advise a witness before, during, and after the conclusion of the
    examination, to ask clarifying questions, and to make summary notes.
    Iowa Admin. Code r. 189—14.6(5)(b).      Similarly, the Office of Citizens’
    Aide/Ombudsman grants witnesses the right to be “accompanied and
    advised by counsel.” Iowa Admin. Code r. 141—2.10(4). That provision
    further provides that “only counsel may speak or raise objections to
    questions on behalf of the witness” and that “objections to questions
    shall be noted but the witness shall answer all questions, except when a
    privilege or immunity accorded to the witness has been asserted.” Id.
    4. Civil trials.   There is very little authority regarding the
    representation of witnesses at civil trials. There are cases, however, that
    indicate a witness may be represented by counsel at trial in order to
    object to questions calling for testimony about privileged matters or
    questions deemed abusive or harassing. See, e.g., In re Petition to Quash
    Subpoena Ad Testificandum, No. 102660/2012, 
    2012 WL 5187328
    , at *6
    (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Oct. 15, 2012) (unreported decision); see also Graves v.
    State, 
    489 S.W.2d 74
    , 82 (Tenn. Crim. App. 1972); State v. Barker, 
    86 P. 387
    , 388 (Wash. 1906).     There is some authority for the proposition,
    however, that an attorney for a witness in a civil trial has no general
    right to participate in the proceeding or to make routine objections that a
    party might make. See State v. Newman, 
    568 S.W.2d 276
    , 282–83 (Mo.
    Ct. App. 1978).
    C. Analysis of Issues in this Case.          Through our attorney
    disciplinary system, we seek to provide a broad channel for clients and
    others to file complaints regarding alleged misconduct of Iowa lawyers
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    and to provide a procedure for fair and efficient resolution of these
    complaints. We have no interest in erecting barriers that tend to deter
    the filing of potentially meritorious complaints.    At the same time, we
    recognize that not all complaints are meritorious and that disputes of
    fact or law must be vetted through an adversarial process. We further
    recognize that in order to prevent needless and potentially irreparable
    harm to an attorney’s reputation when serious violations are not
    founded, our rules generally provide for the confidentiality of disciplinary
    hearings. See State v. Baker, 
    293 N.W.2d 568
    , 576 (Iowa 1980).
    The commission president’s order quashing Conlin’s appearance
    offers several reasons for the decision. The order noted that while our
    rules authorize an attorney for the respondent to participate in the
    proceedings, the rule does not expressly authorize an attorney for a
    witness to attend a disciplinary hearing.    The order also indicated the
    ability of the commission to protect the confidentiality of the proceedings
    would be impaired by the presence of counsel for a witness. Finally, the
    order suggested Jane failed to indicate why it would be unfair to prohibit
    her from having counsel present during her testimony.
    To determine whether the order was proper, we first analyze the
    nonconstitutional question of whether our rules prohibit a witness from
    having a lawyer in a disciplinary proceeding.       If our rules do not, we
    must determine whether we should permit a witness to have an attorney
    in the disciplinary proceeding.    Finally, if a witness is entitled to the
    presence of counsel, we must determine the scope of the attorney’s
    participation in the hearing.
    We first consider whether our rules, which authorize the presence
    of an attorney for a respondent, but not for a witness, should be read to
    bar a witness from having an attorney present when the witness testifies
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    in a disciplinary proceeding. All parties agree there is no express rule
    authorizing a witness to have legal counsel present at a disciplinary
    proceeding.
    Our rule relating to the right of a respondent to have legal counsel,
    however, ensures that a respondent has the right to have counsel
    participate in the entire proceeding.     See Iowa Ct. R. 36.14(3) (“The
    respondent may defend and shall have the right to participate in the
    hearing in person and by counsel . . . .”). We agree with the commission
    that the rule does not authorize an attorney for a witness to participate
    in the entire proceeding. Such a rule would be cumbersome and difficult
    to manage in a disciplinary action potentially involving many witnesses.
    It would be contrary to the established practice in many other types of
    adversarial proceedings in which attorneys for witnesses are allowed only
    limited participation.   Further, we decline to require a respondent’s
    attorney to respond to multiple lawyers playing what could amount to a
    tag-team prosecutorial role in a disciplinary proceeding. To the extent
    the commission’s order refuses to allow Conlin to participate as an
    attorney for her client throughout the entire proceeding based upon our
    existing rules, we believe the order is on solid ground.
    But the issue in this appeal is not whether Conlin may participate
    in the entire disciplinary hearing.      Conlin specifically, and we think
    wisely, eschews this approach. Instead, she seeks only to be present in
    the disciplinary hearing as an attorney when her client testifies. We do
    not think the rule authorizing a respondent to have an attorney
    participate in the entire proceeding should be read to preclude this
    limited role sought by Conlin. On this more discrete issue, our rules are
    silent.
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    We now turn to the question of whether our rules related to
    confidentiality should be construed to bar participation of an attorney for
    a witness in a disciplinary proceeding.       Our rules contain provisions
    designed    to   protect   the   confidentiality   of   attorney   disciplinary
    proceedings. Iowa Ct. Rs. 35.7(1), 36.14(1), 36.14(2), 36.18. Further, as
    the commission’s order correctly points out, confidentiality is for the
    protection of a respondent. See Baker, 293 N.W.2d at 576.
    Yet, we do not think the presence of an attorney for a witness
    during the disciplinary proceeding should be disallowed based upon
    confidentiality concerns.    Like counsel for a respondent, counsel for a
    witness is subject to the confidentiality requirements of our court rules.
    While our rules only require witnesses to take an oath of confidentiality
    and there is no similar provision pertaining to an attorney, we think it is
    clear that a witness’s counsel is bound by the confidentiality provisions
    of our court rules and, as a result, any oath would be redundant. See
    State ex rel. Individual Subpoenaed to Appear at Waukesha Cnty. v.
    Davis, 
    697 N.W.2d 803
    , 810–11 (Wis. 2005) (holding the requirement
    that an attorney take a secrecy oath was redundant in light of an order
    requiring secrecy); see also Disciplinary Counsel v. Pullins, 
    940 N.E.2d 952
    , 958–59 (Ohio 2010) (noting the fact that attorneys are not required
    to take a confidentiality oath does not exempt them from their obligation
    to maintain the privacy of a disciplinary grievance under the Supreme
    Court Rules for the Government of the Bar of Ohio).           We expect that
    attorneys, who regularly deal with confidential client matters, will honor
    the confidentiality established by our court rules.         They violate the
    confidentiality rules at their peril.
    Having concluded that our rule does not bar the limited
    participation proposed by Conlin and that our confidentiality rules do not
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    prohibit such limited participation, we now consider whether there are
    sufficient reasons to allow Conlin to be present when Jane testifies. We
    think    there   are    substantial     reasons     to   allow      her   such   limited
    participation.
    We agree with the Board that Jane has not made a detailed
    presentation regarding the unfairness of depriving her of legal counsel at
    the disciplinary proceeding.           However, the benefits of having legal
    counsel present when a witness provides testimony under oath are clear.
    For example, counsel for a witness can ensure legal privileges personal to
    the witness, such as the attorney–client, physician–patient, or spousal
    privileges, are asserted and protected in the proceeding. While it is true
    that    testimony      in   disciplinary     proceedings       is    confidential    and
    inadmissible in other civil proceedings, even limited disclosure of the
    information involves an invasion of personal interests, could give rise to
    subsequent waiver issues, and gives rise to fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree
    problems when, as here, there is pending litigation related to the subject
    matter of the proceeding.1         Further, while an attorney may be able to
    provide general instruction regarding privileges prior to the hearing, the
    nuances of the law of evidentiary privileges can be complex, particularly
    for a layperson. The presence of an attorney for a witness will make it
    more likely that personal privileges will be protected. See Groban, 352
    U.S. at 345, 77 S. Ct. at 520, 1 L. Ed. 2d at 388 (Black, J., dissenting)
    1We   note that while the proceedings are confidential, they do not provide
    immunity from prosecution. See Iowa Ct. R. 36.18(7) (granting the commission the
    right to release information pertaining to possible criminal violations to law enforcement
    authorities); see also State v. Baker, 
    293 N.W.2d 568
    , 576 (Iowa 1980) (noting the intent
    of the rule granting immunity in disciplinary proceedings “is to protect complainants,
    witnesses, members of the grievance commission and members of the [Board] and their
    respective staffs from retaliatory litigation by investigated lawyers, not to protect
    lawyers from prosecution for criminal offenses”).
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    (“The average witness has little if any idea when or how to raise any of
    his constitutional privileges.”); Ianniello, 235 N.E.2d at 443 (noting a
    variety of confusing rules relating to the existence and scope of
    privileges); Smays, 594 N.Y.S.2d at 105 (noting witnesses should be able
    to consult with counsel about matters of privilege).
    While Attorney Doe asserts Board counsel may protect the
    privileges of a witness, we do not agree. Board counsel lacks standing to
    assert rights personal to a witness.      See, e.g., State v. McDowell, 
    247 N.W.2d 499
    , 500 (Iowa 1976) (noting a Fifth Amendment privilege is
    personal to the witness); State v. Knight, 
    204 Iowa 819
    , 823–24, 
    216 N.W. 104
    , 107 (1927) (noting privilege of witness not to disclose confidential
    communication to physician is personal and cannot be asserted by
    opposing counsel); see also 1 Kenneth S. Broun, McCormick on Evidence
    § 73.1, at 470–71 (7th ed. 2013) (noting that while other persons present
    at trial may call to the court’s attention the existence of a privilege, only
    the party vested with the privilege has the right to make an objection
    based on the privilege); id. § 119, at 705–06 (discussing the meaning of a
    privilege “personal in nature” in the context of the privilege against
    compelled self-incrimination). Further, the interests of the Board and a
    witness may well be in conflict on the question of whether the witness’s
    privileges should be waived. For example, the Board’s interest may be
    advanced by testimony otherwise covered by attorney–client privilege,
    spousal privilege, or physician–patient privilege.      In addition, Board
    counsel may not be in a position to understand the interests of the
    witness or the scope of privileges the witness may wish to assert.
    In addition, the presence of a personal attorney may tend to ensure
    that a lay witness has a greater confidence he or she will be treated with
    dignity and respect in the confidential proceeding. In connection with
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    grand jury proceedings, it has been observed that lay witnesses are often
    unfamiliar with legal proceedings and may have largely unjustified fears
    or concerns about potential overreaching or intimidation that will be
    allayed by counsel’s presence. See Decker at 369; see also Soto, 574 F.
    Supp. at 993. While an attorney disciplinary proceeding is not quite the
    equivalent of a grand jury proceeding, the setting of giving testimony
    under oath in the presence of trained lawyers can be an unsettling
    experience for laypersons.
    It is conceivable we could adopt the approach of many jurisdictions
    in the grand jury setting—namely, that a witness may consult with
    counsel outside the room where the commission is conducting the
    hearing. We reject this approach as cumbersome and unnecessary. An
    attorney physically present in the hearing room will be in a substantially
    better position to advise a client than an attorney sitting outside who
    necessarily must rely upon the layperson’s limited understanding of the
    nature of the question and its context. In addition, such a procedure
    would likely cause more delays than an approach allowing counsel to be
    present throughout a witness’s testimony.
    We now turn to the degree to which counsel for a witness is
    entitled to participate in a disciplinary proceeding before the commission.
    As in most confidential proceedings where a witness is entitled to
    counsel, counsel may be present only when a client testifies. Further,
    the only participation of counsel for a witness in the proceeding must
    relate to a personal interest of the witness. In other words, the parties
    themselves—the Board and the respondent—are responsible for the
    development of the record in the proceeding.      The role of a witness’s
    counsel is to protect rights personal to his or her client. Objections by
    counsel for the nonparty witness related to the development of the
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    record, such as those related to foundation, the form of the question, or
    hearsay, are not permissible.         Except to prevent a misstatement from
    entering the record, thereby exposing a witness to a potential perjury
    charge and triggering attorney obligations under rule 32:3.3 of our rules
    of professional conduct,2 counsel for a witness is not entitled to examine
    his or her own witness.         The commission, through its chair, has the
    authority to ensure the hearing proceeds in a fashion consistent with
    this opinion.3 See Iowa Ct. R. 36:14(4).
    IV. Conclusion.
    For the above reasons, the commission’s order in this case is
    reversed. The case is remanded for further proceedings.
    REVERSED AND REMANDED.
    2Under Iowa Court Rule 32:3.3(a)(3), an attorney must take reasonable remedial
    measure in the event a client testifies in a fashion the lawyer knows is false.
    3Because of our disposition, we need not consider any constitutional issues that
    may be present in this case.