In re D.H. ( 2017 )


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  •                                         No. 116,422
    IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF KANSAS
    In the Interest of D.H., Jr.,
    A Minor Child.
    SYLLABUS BY THE COURT
    1.
    The rules pertaining to the termination of parental rights are reviewed and applied.
    2.
    Indian children are in a special category when it comes to child in need of care
    proceedings. In Kansas, a child in need of care proceeding is generally governed by the
    Revised Kansas Code for Care of Children, except in those instances when the court
    knows or has reason to know that an Indian child is involved in the proceeding, in which
    case, the Indian Child Welfare Act applies.
    3.
    If there is any reason to believe a child is an Indian child, the agency and state
    court must treat the child as an Indian child, unless and until it is determined that the
    child is not a member or is not eligible for membership in an Indian tribe.
    4.
    Where the court knows or has reason to know that an Indian child is involved in a
    child in need of care proceeding, the party seeking the termination of parental rights to an
    Indian child shall notify the Indian child's tribe, by registered mail with return receipt
    requested, of the pending proceedings and of the tribe's right of intervention.
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    5.
    The notice requirement includes providing responses to requests for additional
    information, where available, in the event that a tribe indicates that such information is
    necessary to determine whether a child is an Indian child.
    Appeal from Meade District Court; VAN Z. HAMPTON, judge. Opinion filed August 4, 2017.
    Affirmed in part and remanded with directions.
    J. Scott James, of Greensburg, for appellant natural mother.
    Robert J. Kennington, of Garden City, for appellant natural father.
    Laura H. Lewis, county attorney, for appellee.
    Before HILL, P.J., MCANANY and ATCHESON, JJ.
    HILL, J.: In this appeal of the severance of their parental rights to their son, D.H.,
    Jr., Mother and Father primarily claim that things were turning around for them and the
    court jumped the gun and severed their rights prematurely. Father claims a deep
    emotional bond with his son and that the evidence did not compel termination of his
    rights at this point. Mother also raises claims of incompetent counsel at one of the initial
    hearings where she stipulated that this child was in need of care. She also complains
    about lack of sufficient notice to the Cherokee Indian Nation.
    Our review reveals that the evidence in this record supports termination of their
    parental rights, and we affirm the termination. While it is true that Mother's first counsel
    was incompetent as she claims, he was soon replaced and the case went forward for a
    long time where Mother had proper professional legal assistance. Her parental rights
    were severed because of her continued use of methamphetamine, not because of the
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    misdeeds of her first lawyer. Under these circumstances, she has failed to show prejudice
    to her case from the lawyer's deficient representation.
    We do, however, remand the case to the district court for additional information to
    be sent to the Cherokee Indian Nation to determine with certainty whether this is an
    Indian child. The Indian Child Welfare Act and Kansas law require proper notices to be
    sent to the Indian Nations. This means that when there is an inquiry from a Nation for
    additional information, the law expects reasonable efforts by the State to supply that
    information. We hold that this was not done here, and we remand the case to the district
    court with directions.
    Because of their separation, Mother and Father no longer speak with a common
    voice. They are represented by separate counsel and pursue unique avenues for reversal
    of the district court's decision. Even so, much of the evidence dealt with their common
    roles as parents and we will review that evidence collectively. But where the arguments
    take separate paths, we will address their issues separately.
    The rules that control this case are well settled.
    Our statutes that focus on children in need of care create a system where those
    children in distress will receive the relief they need for their young lives as they are
    unable to provide for themselves. The statutes provide help, supervision, and assistance
    for their parents, who for many and various reasons, cannot or do not provide for their
    children. Services in support of the family are provided, as needed, to the children and
    their parents. Physical, medical, mental, and social evaluations of all members of a family
    are frequently obtained. Classes and counseling are often available. All of these efforts
    are expended primarily for the safety and well-being of the child, and when the child is
    removed from the home, the efforts focus on reunification of the family.
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    Repairs to broken lives and families, however, can take time—even years. But the
    law and our Supreme Court both recognize that the formative years for children are brief
    and if parents cannot or will not make changes in their lives to accommodate the return of
    their child, the district court will terminate their parental rights if it is in the best interests
    of their child to do so.
    A district court may terminate parental rights only after a child has been found to
    be a child in need of care and the court finds by clear and convincing evidence that:
     the parent or parents are unfit and unable to care properly for a child;
     the conduct or condition that renders the parent unfit is unlikely to change
    in the foreseeable future; and
     it is in the best interests of the child to terminate parental rights. See K.S.A.
    2016 Supp. 38-2269(a) and (g)(1).
    Various statutes set out the criteria a judge must consider when deciding
    termination questions. When deciding unfitness of a parent, the court must consider a list
    of factors in K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-2269(b) and any other factors the court deems
    appropriate. When the child is not in the parents' physical custody—such as the case
    here—the court must also consider four additional factors listed in K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-
    2269(c). Proof of any one of these factors may establish grounds for termination of
    parental rights. K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-2269(f). In deciding whether termination of
    parental rights is in the best interests of the child, the court must give primary
    consideration to the physical, mental, and emotional needs of the child. K.S.A. 2016
    Supp. 38-2269(g)(1). The passage of time for improvement must be taken into account
    because we deal with young, impressionable lives. These children in need of care, indeed,
    are not children for long.
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    For our part, when we review a district court's termination of parental rights, the
    law requires us to consider whether, after our review of all the evidence, viewed in the
    light most favorable to the State, we are convinced that a rational factfinder could find it
    highly probable, i.e. by clear and convincing evidence, that the parent's rights should be
    terminated. In making this determination, this court does not weigh conflicting evidence,
    pass on the credibility of witnesses, or redetermine questions of fact. In re B.D.-Y., 
    286 Kan. 686
    , 705, 
    187 P.3d 594
    (2008). We now briefly review the evidence of the problems
    experienced by this family. More of the facts will be related later when we explain our
    holding.
    Drug usage dominated this family.
    Life did not start well for this child. The day after D.H., Jr., was born in November
    2012, the staff at the hospital reported to the Department for Children and Families that
    Mother was using methamphetamine while she was pregnant with this child. When
    services were offered to the family, they refused and the case was closed.
    After that, life for this family was far from tranquil. In May 2013, the Department
    received a report that Mother and Father were using drugs and the child was home alone.
    They moved to Meade County and they bounced around from house to house. Crisis
    followed crisis. They were in frequent contact with the police for domestic disturbances.
    They admitted using methamphetamine. They were evicted. They fought with each other
    with the child present. They moved in with a man and left their child with him without
    telling him they were going or when or if they would return.
    They experienced financial distress. Jill Burtzloff, the assigned social worker,
    stated she was never able to verify whether the parents were employed. Neither Father
    nor Mother held down a job during this time.
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    Serious legal complications arose in their lives. The State charged Mother and
    Father with possession of drug paraphernalia. Later, the State filed an additional charge
    against Father for domestic battery because he grabbed Mother around the neck during an
    argument. Father pled no contest to disorderly conduct, and the court issued a no contact
    order restraining him from Mother. With this background information we turn to these
    legal proceedings.
    This child in need of care case started when both parents were arrested for bond
    violations in November 2014 and both tested positive for methamphetamine. Their bonds
    were revoked. This meant incarceration for the pair. With both parents in jail and no
    other place for D.H., Jr., to go, the State filed a petition to find him to be a child in need
    of care. The court placed him in the Department's custody. He would never again reside
    at his parents' home.
    Some successes were followed by many failures for the parents.
    Neither unexpectedly nor unreasonably, the juvenile court wanted both parents to
    be drug free when they spent time with their child and ordered that they were to have a
    clean drug screen before having any contact with their child. This proved to be a high
    hurdle.
    First, with no explanation in the record, the parents did not attend the case
    planning conference. With a goal of reintegration of the family, the court adopted a case
    plan that set out tasks for the parents, such as:
     refrain from the use of illegal drugs;
     obtain stable housing and employment;
     complete a domestic violence assessment;
     take parenting classes;
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     seek a mental health intake; and
     participate in couples' therapy.
    The court also expected the parents to follow all recommendations made in the various
    assessments. The court placed the child with his paternal grandmother.
    These tasks were beyond their reach. The next month, in December 2014, both
    parents tested positive for methamphetamine. Later that month, at the adjudication
    hearing, neither parent contested the State's allegations that their child was a child in need
    of care. Mother alleges some misconduct of her court-appointed attorney at this hearing
    that we will deal with when we address her issues on appeal.
    The ups and downs of the parents' behaviors became manifest after this. On the
    positive side, in January 2015, Mother and Father completed inpatient drug rehabilitation
    programs. But later, in June 2015, Mother was unsuccessfully discharged from outpatient
    treatment. Similarly, Father was also unsuccessful with outpatient treatment.
    To their credit, Mother and Father had clean drug screens in February, March, and
    April 2015. At this point, both parents had regular visits with their child during this time.
    The parents completed a domestic violence assessment. Mother completed parenting
    classes. These positives were followed by negatives.
    In May 2015, for three consecutive weeks, the parents did not show up for drug
    screens. At the next case plan conference held later that month, it was clear that Mother
    and Father had not completed most of their assigned case plan tasks. The parents did not
    provide pay stubs to verify employment. Mother said she was working at Applebee's and
    Spencer Browns, and then temporarily at National Beef with Father. Father worked odd
    jobs. Mother also said she was employed by caring for Glen Lucas, who was on
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    disability. The parents were ordered to pay child support but never did. The parents did
    not complete any more case plan tasks from May to October 2015.
    Apparently, their drug usage was sporadic but frequent because the parents were
    drug free for their September drug test and had a visit with the child. But when both
    parents tested positive for methamphetamine in late October, the Department changed the
    case plan goal from reintegration to adoption. Despite the change of goal, on November
    9, 2015, both parents had a visit with their child. After that, neither parent submitted to a
    drug screen until February 2016. In March 2016, Father began cooperating with drug
    screens again.
    After the case plan goal changed, the State moved to terminate parental rights
    since there had been no real efforts by either parent to correct their conduct or
    circumstances in any significant way. When that motion was filed on April 1, 2016,
    Mother began cooperating and promptly entered drug treatment in mid-April. But nothing
    really improved.
    Methamphetamine was their master. At Mother's diversion revocation hearing in
    one of her criminal cases, she tested positive for methamphetamine. Mother had tested
    positive for methamphetamine again at Stepping Stone Shelter on May 6, 2016. Headed
    in a similar direction, in April 2016, Father had a revocation hearing in his criminal case
    after he tested positive for methamphetamine. Meanwhile, contact with their child was
    minimal. Father had a visit with him in March and again in April 2016. Mother had two
    visits with him in May 2016.
    Meanwhile, while his parents struggled unsuccessfully with their apparent drug
    addiction, their child remained in the Department's custody. This child had been out of
    his parents' house since November 3, 2014, with no overnight visits with the parents even
    attempted. Cara Payton, a reintegration social worker, testified that the parents did not put
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    effort into completing the case plan. They went through cycles of drug use, domestic
    violence, poverty, and homelessness. As the date of a court hearing approached, there
    would be some cooperation from them. But after court, the cooperation fizzled out. The
    parents did not make any changes necessary to break those cycles. Payton recommended
    that the child be freed from their ties and prepared for adoption.
    We note some additional facts that arose from the termination hearing.
    Basically, the termination hearing evidence painted a sad picture of these parents.
    The court took judicial notice of three worthless check cases filed against Mother in
    Meade County and a charge of unlawful possession of controlled substances against
    Mother in Seward County. The court also took judicial notice of a pending theft charge
    against Father in Dodge City. The court also noted that Mother had her parental rights to
    five other children severed in California.
    Nonetheless, both parents claimed improvement in their circumstances. At the
    time of the severance hearing, Mother was in drug treatment at the Women's Recovery
    Center. Father testified that during the pendency of this case he did not have a driving
    license, which hindered his employment. At the time of the hearing, he testified he was
    employed and had a driving license. He was enrolled in Cimarron Basin outpatient
    treatment. He leased a duplex and his brother owned a house that was set aside for him.
    At the conclusion of the hearing, the court ruled that despite their good intentions,
    the parents were unfit due to their drug addiction. The court found that it was in the best
    interests of this child to "get someone to care for him that will provide a life for him."
    The court terminated both parents' rights and directed the Department to place the child
    for adoption. At this point, we look first at Father's issues and then turn to those raised by
    Mother.
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    The evidence supports the court's termination of Father's parental rights.
    To us, Father argues that at the time of the termination hearing he "had a reality
    check" and he was getting ready to take responsibility for his life and setting the stage to
    have his child reintegrated back into his life. Life had been difficult for him during this
    period, and the State agencies did not help.
    Actually, Father contends that it was the Department who failed to make
    reasonable efforts to rehabilitate the family because it did not perform a walk-through of
    his home or complete drug screens. In other words, it had not, as required by law,
    extended reasonable efforts to help restore their relationship. Father argues he made
    efforts to obtain employment and stay clean. But he offers no real explanation why these
    alleged Department deficiencies prevented him from completing his case plan tasks. Nor
    does he explain how these deficiencies kept him using drugs.
    The fact of the matter is that Father's efforts to regain the custody of his son were
    not sufficient. The testimony showed that Father tested positive for methamphetamine at
    various times over the course of the proceedings. Father's inability to have overnight
    visits with his son was not based on the Department's failures, but rather on his own
    inability to stay drug-free for a time. Father simply did not show up for drug tests and
    could not be reached by the Department. He failed to maintain steady employment and
    failed to complete many of the other case plan tasks. This attempt to now place blame on
    the Department for his failures underscores Father's fundamental inability to take
    responsibility for making the necessary changes in his life to ensure his son's return.
    In an attempt to make a claim about the emotional health of his son, Father
    contends that he had a tight emotional bond with him. In making this claim, he refers to
    Mother's testimony that the child loved Father and to his own testimony that he felt he
    had an emotional bond with him. Father also refers us to testimony that both he and
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    Mother had a couple of months of good visits with the child and started having
    unsupervised visits at the end of April or beginning of May 2015. He does not mention
    his drug usage that followed those two months.
    As support, Father cites this passage from In re K.R., 
    43 Kan. App. 2d 891
    , 904,
    
    233 P.3d 746
    (2010):
    "The statutory requirement directs the court to give primary consideration to the
    physical, mental, and emotional health of the children. In so doing, the court must weigh
    the benefits of permanency for the children without the presence of their parent against
    the continued presence of the parent and the attendant issues created for the children's
    lives. In making such a determination we believe the court must consider the nature and
    strength of the relationships between children and parent and the trauma that may be
    caused to the children by termination, weighing these considerations against a further
    delay in permanency for the children."
    We have no quarrel with the quoted passage—in fact, it makes good sense.
    But that case is far different than this. We note that in In re K.R., there was no
    allegation of addiction or abuse and the guardian ad litem "vigorously" advocated against
    the termination of the mother's parental rights because of the mother's relationship with
    the children and the children's desire to be with their mother. The K.R. panel found the
    best interests of the children were not served by termination of their mother's parental
    
    rights. 43 Kan. App. 2d at 904-05
    . To the contrary, here, the guardian ad litem concurred
    with the State's motion to terminate parental rights. Father's self-serving statement that he
    had a bond with his son is not conclusive evidence of that bond. Nor does his claim
    persuade us that it overcomes in some way the evidence of the long periods in this child's
    young life where Father had no contact with him. A parent's role is to protect, cherish,
    comfort, support, guide, nurture, and help—this record reveals that Father has failed, for
    whatever reason, to fulfill this role.
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    Our review of the record revealed that both parents had addiction issues that
    continuously prevented them from seeing their child. The unsupervised visits that began
    at the end of April or beginning of May 2015 were short-lived and not even overnight.
    Despite Father's ability to have good visits when he was clean and sober, Father did not
    stay that way for long. We reiterate, in May 2015, the parents did not show up for drug
    screens for three consecutive weeks. In June 2015, the visits were stopped. Two years
    with no overnight visits is a long time for one so young.
    The child was very young when removed from the parents' home. At this point, the
    child has spent more time out of Father's home than in his home. Father has made
    insufficient efforts to change his circumstances to make room for his child. Despite his
    claims of a close bond with the child, his continued drug usage, which prevented his
    contact with the child, was clearly not the fault of the social service agencies involved.
    When we view this evidence in the light most favorable to the State, as the law requires,
    we are convinced that a rational factfinder could find by clear and convincing evidence
    that Father was unfit and it is in the best interests of the child to terminate his parental
    rights. We turn now to issues raised by Mother.
    The evidence supports termination of Mother's parental rights.
    Arguing that she made key changes to her life prior to the termination hearing,
    Mother contends that the court improperly concluded that her conduct was unlikely to
    change in the foreseeable future. After all, on her own initiative, just before the
    termination hearing, Mother entered into a women's recovery program and stayed clean
    and sober while there. Also, Mother no longer had contact with Father, who was a bad
    influence; and she had obtained stable housing in Garden City.
    Our review of the record reveals a remarkably similar pattern of drug addiction,
    lack of change of circumstances, and disinterest in this child by Mother as well as Father.
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    The court's journal entry illustrates that pattern, where the court found Mother and Father
    were unfit and the conduct or condition that rendered the parents unfit was unlikely to
    change in the foreseeable future. The record supports that finding. The court ruled that
    despite their good intentions, their addiction rendered them unable to adjust their
    circumstances toward reintegration. The court found a high risk that Mother would be in
    jail for a long period of time because of crimes she was charged with.
    In our review, we note that one of the social workers testified that the parents did
    not put effort into completing the case plan. They went through cycles of drug use,
    domestic violence, poverty, and homelessness. Then it would get to a court hearing and
    there would be some cooperation. But after court, the cooperation fizzled out. The parents
    did not make changes to break those cycles. The termination hearing was no different.
    The court found two statutory factors created a presumption that Mother was unfit:
          K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-2271(a)(1)—A parent has previously been found to
    be an unfit parent under comparable proceedings under the laws of another
    jurisdiction;
          K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-2271(a)(3)—On two or more prior occasions a child
    in the physical custody of the parent has been adjudicated a child in need of care.
    These presumptions must not be ignored. The statute, K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-
    2271(b), dealing with the burden of proof when a presumption of unfitness is presented to
    the court, states clearly that the burden of proof is on the parent to rebut the presumptions
    of unfitness by a preponderance of the evidence. We find no evidence in the record
    presented by Mother to rebut either of these presumptions.
    Looking at this evidence in the light most favorable to the State, as the law
    requires, we hold the evidence in this record is clear and convincing that Mother is unfit
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    by reason of conduct or condition which renders her unable to care properly for this child
    and her conduct is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. Additionally, the record
    supports the court's finding that this termination is in the best interests of this child.
    We examine Mother's claims about her first court-appointed lawyer.
    Three attorneys have represented Mother at various times in this proceeding—two
    court-appointed and one retained. Initially, Dan Arkell-Roca represented Mother.
    According to the proffered testimony at the district court's hearing on this matter, Arkell-
    Roca obtained Mother's signature on her no-contest statement to the State's child in need
    of care petition by folding over the paper in such a way that she could only see the
    signature line. She was not able to view the rest of the document. Arkell-Roca told
    Mother that she needed to sign the document if she wanted to get her child back and she
    did not need to worry about what it said. She signed the statement without reading it and
    not knowing what it said. Arkell-Roca also advised Mother that she should not pursue the
    issue of whether there was native parentage of her son because the tribe would come and
    "take her child away."
    There is no record of the adjudication hearing where both parents stipulated that
    their child was in need of care. The record does reflect that about 6 months later—in June
    2015, the parents asked that Arkell-Roca be removed since they had retained Derek
    Miller who appeared in the case for both parents. When the parents separated Miller
    withdrew and the court appointed Jaskamal Dhillon to represent Mother at the
    termination hearing.
    The Kansas Supreme Court disbarred Arkell-Roca from the practice of law in
    Kansas on July 7, 2016. See In re Arkell, 
    304 Kan. 754
    , 
    377 P.3d 414
    (2016).
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    When it addressed this issue, the district court found that Arkell-Roca's
    representation was by definition below the standard of representation expected of an
    attorney and, as such, would ordinarily call for reversal. But three reasons convinced the
    court that the poor representation did not prejudice Mother's case:
          Arkell-Roca's inadequate performance did not change the outcome of the
    case. Evidence of Mother's continued use of methamphetamine would certainly
    have been presented at any adjudication hearing and that, alone, would
    independently justify a finding that the child was in need of care.
          Arkell-Roca's deficient performance was cured by his removal and
    Mother's representation by Derek Miller, and then Jaskamal Dhillon. Dhillon
    represented Mother at the time of the termination hearing.
          At the termination hearing, clear and convincing evidence proved the
    parents were unfit.
    We find the court's reasoning persuasive, but first we must review the applicable law.
    The law is clear—in order to prevail on a claim of ineffective assistance of
    counsel, the party alleging ineffective assistance must establish that the performance of
    counsel was deficient and the party was prejudiced by the ineffective assistance. This
    means that there is a reasonable probability a different result would have been achieved
    in the absence of the deficient performance. See State v. Sprague, 
    303 Kan. 418
    , 426, 
    362 P.3d 828
    (2015); Sola-Morales v. State, 
    300 Kan. 875
    , 882, 
    335 P.3d 1162
    (2014).
    Mother does not dispute the court's finding that no prejudice resulted. Instead, in
    her attack on this ruling, Mother contends that she need not prove prejudice because her
    no-contest statement was procured by "outright fraud." With such an action, prejudice
    must be presumed. For support, Mother cites a criminal case, State v. Carter, 
    270 Kan. 426
    , 
    14 P.3d 1138
    (2000), where the client received incompetent legal assistance.
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    In Carter, a defendant was charged with premediated first-degree murder. Against
    the defendant's strong objections, defense counsel pursued a strategy of directing the jury
    toward a felony-murder conviction rather than a premediated first-degree murder
    conviction. Defense counsel presented no evidence. Counsel essentially argued that the
    defendant was guilty of killing the victim but that there was no premeditation.
    Meanwhile, the defendant maintained his innocence. The court held:
    "Under the facts of this case, defense counsel's imposing a guilt-based defense against
    defendant's wishes violated defendant's fundamental right to enter a plea of not guilty and
    deprived the defendant of effective assistance of counsel that was prejudicial per se; thus
    no showing that the outcome of the trial would have been different absent defense
    counsel's conduct was required." 
    270 Kan. 426
    , Syl. ¶ 4.
    Carter is based on the so-called Cronic exception. In Cronic-type cases where an
    attorney's performance completely denied the defendant assistance of counsel or denied it
    at a critical stage of the proceedings, the court may presume prejudice. See 
    Sola-Morales, 300 Kan. at 883
    (citing United States v. Cronic, 
    466 U.S. 648
    , 658-59, 
    104 S. Ct. 2039
    ,
    
    80 L. Ed. 2d 657
    [1984]). With such a complete denial of competent legal assistance,
    nothing else need be proved. But application of the Cronic exception is rare.
    Turning from criminal cases to cases involving juveniles, the court's expectations
    for competent legal assistance are similar. Simply put, parents are entitled to effective
    assistance of counsel during a termination of parental rights hearing. The standards used
    in context of the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution apply. In re
    Rushing, 
    9 Kan. App. 2d 541
    , 545, 
    684 P.2d 445
    (1984). In Rushing, the court did apply
    the Cronic exception to the parental severance case because the father's attorney left the
    courtroom "mid-trial" and was not present during much of the evidentiary hearing, the
    evidence of father's unfitness was "marginal at best," and the attorney made no argument
    to the trial judge concerning the sufficiency of the 
    evidence. 9 Kan. App. 2d at 547
    .
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    We do, however, question the continued value of the holding in Carter because of
    doubts created in Edgar v. State, 
    294 Kan. 828
    , 841-42, 
    283 P.3d 152
    (2012). In Edgar,
    our Supreme Court cited two United States Supreme Court cases that declined to apply
    the older Cronic 
    exception. 294 Kan. at 842
    . Clearly, the court could have automatically
    reversed based on Cronic and refused to do so.
    Here, Mother asks us to apply the Cronic exception to a child in need of care
    determination in which counsel pursued a "no contest" strategy without consulting
    Mother. Because of this, in her view, Mother was denied effective assistance of counsel
    at a critical stage. We have no doubt that Arkell-Roca's conduct was well below the
    permissible conduct for attorneys. Certainly, there is no excuse for the attorney's actions.
    But that misconduct occurred very early in these proceedings. Therefore, in our
    view, it was possible to perform a prejudice analysis, as the court did here to see if
    outright reversal is called for. Arkell-Roca was dismissed from this case well before the
    State sought termination of Mother's parental rights. Months of case plan hearings,
    review hearings, and visits occurred before the issue of termination even arose. Mother
    subjected the State's case to meaningful adversarial testing during the termination
    hearing. Clearly, Mother has not claimed she was innocent as Carter claimed because she
    never denied that she tested positive for methamphetamine on several occasions. We see
    no reason to follow the Cronic ruling and instead consider all of the circumstances of this
    case. After all, we are involved in a question of what is in the best interests of this child.
    The district court properly ruled that Mother failed to show prejudice due to her
    ineffective attorney at such an early stage of this proceeding.
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    We are troubled by the lack of response to a request for information from the Cherokee
    Nation.
    Early on in these proceedings, D.H., Jr.'s paternal grandmother stated in an
    affidavit that the boy was eligible for membership with an Indian tribe. Accordingly, the
    State sent notice to the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee Nation responded:
    "Cherokee Nation Indian Child Welfare has examined the tribal records regarding the
    above named child/children and none of the names provided can be found as current
    enrolled members.
    "The child/children does not meet the definition of 'Indian child' in relation to the
    Cherokee Nation as stated in the Federal Indian Child Welfare Act, 25 U.S.C. §
    1903(4). Therefore, the Cherokee Nation does not have legal standing to intervene
    based on the information exactly as provided by you. Any incorrect or omitted
    information could invalidate this determination.
    ****************************
    "Because 'ENROLLED TRIBAL MEMBER' and 'ELIGIBLE FOR ENROLLMENT' are
    different, a conclusive finding of 'eligible for enrollment' requires the full names, to
    include maiden names, and dates of birth for the direct biological lineage linking the
    child to an enrolled member of the tribe. It is impossible for Cherokee Nation to confirm
    or deny a claim of 'eligible for enrollment' without this information.
    "If you wish to send additional information, please respond in writing with the additional
    lineage . . . ."
    Importantly, the dates of birth of D.H., Jr., Mother, and Father were listed at the top of
    the letter but the paternal grandmother's birth date was listed as "????????" The State
    took no further steps in regards to the Indian Child Welfare Act after receipt of this letter.
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    On appeal, Mother contends that the State's notice to the Nation of the Act omitted
    important information—the maiden name, birthdate, and direct lineage of the paternal
    grandmother. In reply, the State argues "that it was not necessary to provide any further
    notice or information to the Cherokee Nation as there was not any further information to
    be had and the tribe had indicated that the State had complied with the notice
    requirements of ICWA."
    Obviously, the application of and compliance with the Act are questions of law
    over which we exercise unlimited review. In re A.J.S., 
    288 Kan. 429
    , 431, 
    204 P.3d 543
    (2009).
    It is important to recognize that Indian children are in a special category when it
    comes to juvenile proceedings. In Kansas, a child in need of care proceeding is generally
    governed by the Revised Kansas Code for Care of Children, K.S.A. 2016 Supp. 38-2201
    et seq., "'except in those instances when the court knows or has reason to know that an
    Indian child is involved in the proceeding, in which case, the Indian child welfare act of
    1978, 25 U.S.C. § 1901 et seq., applies.'" In re M.F., 
    290 Kan. 142
    , 148-49, 
    225 P.3d 1177
    (2010) (quoting K.S.A. 2008 Supp. 38-2203(a). An "'Indian child' means any
    unmarried person who is under age eighteen and either (a) a member of an Indian tribe or
    (b) is eligible for membership in an Indian tribe and is the biological child of a member
    of an Indian tribe." 25 U.S.C. § 1903(4) (2012). The question of jurisdiction arises.
    Tribal courts have exclusive jurisdiction over proceedings involving children
    residing on or domiciled within a reservation and concurrent jurisdiction with state courts
    over foster care or termination of parental rights proceedings involving children not
    domiciled on a reservation. See In re 
    M.F., 290 Kan. at 149
    (citing 25 U.S.C. § 1911[a]
    [2006]).
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    Before an Indian parent's rights to an Indian child may be terminated, two steps
    must be taken by the trial court:
     the clear and convincing evidence standard set forth in state law must be
    proven;
     then the evidence must establish beyond a reasonable doubt that
    termination is required. In re S.M.H., 
    33 Kan. App. 2d 424
    , 431, 
    103 P.3d 976
    , rev. denied 
    279 Kan. 1006
    (2005).
    If the evidence suggests the court is dealing with an Indian child, as with the
    grandmother's affidavit here, the court must consider the child to be an Indian child until
    the tribe advises otherwise. The Bureau of Indian Affairs Guidelines, in effect at the time
    of the termination of parental rights here, control here. They state, "If there is any reason
    to believe the child is an Indian child, the agency and State court must treat the child as
    an Indian child, unless and until it is determined that the child is not a member or is not
    eligible for membership in an Indian tribe." BIA Guidelines for State Courts and
    Agencies in Indian Child Custody Proceedings, 80 FR 10146, Section A.3(d) (February
    25, 2015).
    Notice to the tribe is mandatory under the Act
    "where the court knows or has reason to know that an Indian child is involved, the party
    seeking the foster care placement of, or termination of parental rights to, an Indian child
    shall notify . . . the Indian child's tribe, by registered mail with return receipt requested, of
    the pending proceedings and of their right of intervention." 25 U.S.C. § 1912(a) (2012).
    The notice shall include the following information, if known:
    "(1) Name of the Indian child, the child's birthdate and birthplace.
    "(2) Name of Indian tribe(s) in which the child is enrolled or may be eligible for
    enrollment.
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    "(3) All names known, and current and former addresses of the Indian child's
    biological mother, biological father, maternal and paternal grandparents and great
    grandparents or Indian custodians, including maiden, married and former names or
    aliases; birthdates; places of birth and death; tribal enrollment numbers, and/or other
    identifying information.
    "(4) A copy of the petition, complaint or other document by which the
    proceeding was initiated." 25 C.F.R. § 23.11 (d) (2014).
    Thus, according to the regulation, the State had to provide the paternal grandmother's
    maiden name and birthdate "if known."
    Regarding the notification requirements, the BIA Guidelines state that "[t]he
    notice requirement includes providing responses to requests for additional information,
    where available, in the event that a tribe indicates that such information is necessary to
    determine whether a child is an Indian child." BIA Guidelines, Section B.6(l).
    Our research has disclosed that other states have considered similar issues and
    held that furnishing additional information is mandatory. When a Texas appellate court
    found that the notices provided to an Indian tribe were deficient, it remanded the case so
    that notice could be sent in compliance with the Act. In re R.R., Jr., 
    294 S.W.3d 213
    , 237
    (Tex. App. 2009). Additionally, the California appellate courts have addressed the issue
    and stated that "[w]hen the notice contains insufficient information, it is effectively
    meaningless . . . because the failure to give proper notice forecloses participation by
    interested Indian tribes . . . ." In re Ethan M., No. F053868, 
    2008 WL 683601
    , at *4 (Cal.
    App. 2008) (unpublished opinion). We find that reasoning cogent and persuasive. What is
    true in California is true in Kansas.
    Here, there is no indication the State knew the grandmother's birthdate and maiden
    name, even though the child lived with grandmother after she was approved for
    placement. The State admits in its brief that it took no action to obtain the information
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    after receiving the Cherokee Nation letter. Thus, we cannot reasonably say that the
    information was unavailable here. In our view, the letter from the Cherokee Nation can
    be treated as a request for more information. There were eight question marks in place of
    the grandmother's date of birth, indicating this information was needed.
    Simply put, the Cherokee Nation letter does not provide a definitive answer to
    whether D.H., Jr., was eligible for enrollment in the Cherokee Nation. And, according to
    the guidelines, "the agency and State court must treat the child as an Indian child, unless
    and until it is determined that the child is not a member or is not eligible for membership
    in an Indian tribe." BIA Guidelines, Section A.3(d). The court must consider this child to
    be an Indian child until the Cherokee Nation rules that he is not.
    Finally, unique to this case, we must point out that even if we do not require the
    State to provide additional information to the tribe, Mother has a strong argument for
    remand because her attorney, since disbarred, advised her not to pursue a notice to the
    Nation under the Act.
    Conclusion
    There is sufficient evidence, in quantity and quality, to support a finding that both
    parents are unfit and it is in the best interests of the child to terminate their parental
    rights. We remand this matter to the district court to determine, after proper notice to the
    Cherokee Nation, if this child is, according to the Nation, an Indian child. If the district
    court finds, based on proper evidence, that this child is not an Indian child, then the
    termination of the parents' rights need not be set aside. In that instance, the district court
    can simply find that the Act does not apply and reaffirm its prior decision terminating
    parental rights. But if this child is an Indian child, then the district court is directed to set
    aside the termination of parental rights and all further proceedings shall be governed by
    the provisions of the Act.
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    Affirmed in part and remanded with directions.
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