Stuart Daniel Kouns v. Robin Scott Kemper ( 2021 )


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  •                   RENDERED: AUGUST 6, 2021; 10:00 A.M.
    NOT TO BE PUBLISHED
    Commonwealth of Kentucky
    Court of Appeals
    NO. 2020-CA-1335-ME
    STUART DANIEL KOUNS                                                  APPELLANT
    APPEAL FROM WOODFORD CIRCUIT COURT
    v.                HONORABLE LISA H. MORGAN, JUDGE
    ACTION NO. 20-D-00056-001
    ROBIN SCOTT KEMPER                                                     APPELLEE
    OPINION
    REVERSING AND REMANDING
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    BEFORE: CLAYTON, CHIEF JUDGE; K. THOMPSON, AND L. THOMPSON,
    JUDGES.
    THOMPSON, K., JUDGE: Stuart Daniel Kouns (stepfather) appeals from the
    Woodford Family Court’s domestic violence order (DVO), which prohibited him
    from having contact with his stepchildren, L.M.K. and A.M.K. (children), on the
    basis that the hearing deprived him of due process and, in any event, there was
    insufficient evidence upon which a DVO could be granted.1 We disagree that
    stepfather was deprived of due process but agree that there was insufficient
    evidence to grant the DVO because there was no reasonable infliction of fear of
    imminent physical injury on children where stepfather voluntarily stopped having
    any contact with them more than a year earlier. Accordingly, we reverse and
    remand.
    Robin Scott Kemper (father) and Pamela Kouns (mother), divorced in
    2013. Father and mother have equal timesharing with children, who are both
    daughters, spending alternating weeks with them.
    About four years before the petition was filed, mother married
    stepfather and children began spending half their time in mother’s and stepfather’s
    home. More than a year before the petition was filed, mother separated from
    stepfather. Mother continues to see stepfather, but stepfather is never at mother’s
    home when the children are there. It is undisputed that children have not seen or
    had any communication with stepfather since mother moved out.
    On September 22, 2020, father filed a petition for an order of
    protection on behalf of children. The statement supporting the petition was, as
    1
    Normally we refer to parties in domestic violence actions by their names, but in this case, it is
    less confusing to refer to them by their roles relative to the children.
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    father noted, written by L.M.K., who was seventeen at the time, and read in
    pertinent part as follows:
    I fear for my safety! In the recent weeks my family [has]
    been terrorized by [stepfather]. He has become abusive
    to my mother throwing her. On that occasion she had
    gone to leave his house and he did not want her to leave
    so he grabbed her purse attached to her arm and yanked
    her to the ground. He had pulled her so hard there was a
    lasting mark left on her arm. This has happened on more
    than one occasion. My sister and I fear for our safety and
    mother[’]s life because of his aggressiveness.
    [Stepfather] has severe anger issues that I have
    witnessed. I would also like to add that he is an avid
    daily drinker to the point of intoxication each night. This
    drinking habit plays into his anger spells that seem to go
    out of control. A few years back while intoxicated he
    had shot my mother leading me to fear for my safety
    s[i]n[c]e that moment. On multiple accounts he has said
    that “if I want to hurt you I would.” S[i]nce these events
    I have moved out of his house on account of his anger
    towards me. Upon moving out of his house [stepfather]
    has acquired several large firearms and weapons. He has
    s[i]nce joined a militia and for these reasons I am scared
    for the safety and well being of my family. I beg of you
    to protect me and my sister from an escalation of his
    anger. From these recent events of him abusing my
    mother I believe that this is an urgent matter.
    The family court granted an emergency protective order (EPO).
    At the hearing, at which both parties were pro se, the family court
    noted it would be hearing from father, L.M.K., and stepfather. The family court
    asked stepfather if he was planning to call any witnesses besides himself and he
    stated that he did not plan to do so.
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    The family court observed that mother was present and noted that
    because much of the petition was based upon what mother had witnessed where
    she was a victim, the court might need her testimony. Mother observed, “it’s a
    difficult position for me to be put in” and stated that it would be better if she did
    not have to testify. Mother was excluded from the proceedings as a possible
    witness.
    The family court instructed that father would need to testify about
    what he observed and not what his daughter had told him, L.M.K. would testify
    next and then stepfather would be given an opportunity to respond. The family
    court instructed the parties that they should try to speak up the best they could
    during their testimony and seek to not interrupt anyone else’s testimony or answer
    a question directed to anyone else. The family court then proceeded to question
    the witnesses. We summarize only the testimony which is relevant to the family
    court’s ruling and stepfather’s arguments.2
    Father testified children timeshared with mother at the residence she
    shared with stepfather until an incident when mother and stepfather had an
    argument and stepfather turned the water off when L.M.K. was in the shower.
    2
    Therefore, we do not discuss testimony relating to mother being “shot” except in this brief note
    here. Everyone agreed the shooting was ruled to be accidental and father and L.M.K. did not
    observe the incident. Stepfather testified his gun accidentally discharged as he was unloading it
    and mother was hit by shrapnel.
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    Father explained that after hearing about it, he told mother he would not let the
    children live with stepfather anymore. In response, mother moved out and children
    continued having timesharing with her. Since that time, father denied having any
    contact with stepfather other than one phone call regarding parenting.
    Father explained he filed the petition on L.M.K.’s insistence after a
    recent incident where L.M.K. called him crying, telling him she heard from a
    neighbor that stepfather yanked mother to the ground by her handbag and bruised
    her. Father was concerned about how “torn up” L.M.K. was about the incident.
    L.M.K. testified that although she did not have any direct contact with
    stepfather over the past year, when she is with mother, stepfather calls her mother
    multiple times a day. She testified that one time, stepfather called mother and
    asked where L.M.K.’s car was, as he had not seen it when he was driving by
    mother’s home. L.M.K. testified she knew about stepfather’s calls based on both
    what mother had told her and from overhearing phone conversations when they
    were happening. She explained this comment about her car worried her, so she
    went to see what stepfather could see from the street and observed her home and
    where she parked could not be seen unless he was parked on their street.
    When asked whether she had witnessed acts of domestic violence
    between stepfather and mother while she lived with them, L.M.K. testified that
    stepfather inflicted severe emotional abuse on them by yelling at her sister,
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    A.M.K., and her until they were crying or left the house. She explained it was so
    distressing that she and her sister would cry themselves to sleep, afraid that
    stepfather would hurt one of them or mother.
    L.M.K. testified stepfather has a severe alcoholism problem and
    becomes enraged when he drinks but denied that stepfather was ever physically
    violent with them or damaged property, explaining that at worst he had thrown
    stuff in the sink and would become “basically a crazy person yelling.” She
    testified he drinks every night to the point of intoxication.
    When the family court asked if stepfather had made any threats,
    L.M.K. responded: “No, but he said if he wanted to hurt me he would.” She could
    not recall the context in which stepfather made this comment.
    Regarding the shower incident, L.M.K. testified that stepfather turned
    off the water just after she started showering and when she got out, he proceeded to
    yell at her until she cried. She stated she was crying so hard that she was unable to
    breathe, and he told her to get out of the house and told her “I was nothing.” She
    explained that at other times stepfather yelled about everything, told her he did not
    like her, he did not want her in the house and that “I was a waste.”
    L.M.K. then testified about things her mother told her about
    stepfather’s recent behavior, including that mother is scared because stepfather has
    joined a militia, and scared because stepfather has so many firearms in the house.
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    As to the incident which caused the impetus for filing the petition,
    L.M.K. stated she heard from a neighbor that stepfather was abusing mother and
    leaving bruises on her. L.M.K. later explained that her mother had a prominent
    bruise on her arm and she believed her stepfather had to yank her mother hard to
    cause such a bruise.
    L.M.K. testified her little sister cries in the middle of the night
    because she is scared that if mother divorces stepfather, stepfather will hurt
    mother. L.M.K. testified that based on stepfather’s pattern of behavior, L.M.K.
    fears imminent harm and believes stepfather could snap at any point.
    Stepfather denied ever committing domestic violence against mother
    or children. He denied he had ever hurt, hit, restrained, shoved, or thrown mother
    or caused mother to fall. He denied ever grabbing at mother’s purse. He explained
    he did not want to hurt anyone.
    However, stepfather did testify about a recent incident where mother
    left his home at 4 a.m. after waking up from his snoring. He explained he woke up
    as mother was leaving. He was still half asleep as he told her to give him back the
    bowl of leftovers she was taking from his home, because she was always taking his
    bowls and not returning them. He grabbed at the bag that the bowl was in and they
    “tussled” over it a bit and they became entangled, but he did not intentionally harm
    her, and she did not fall.
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    Stepfather testified he had never done anything to cause the children
    to fear him. He repeatedly said he did not understand why they were in court on a
    domestic violence action regarding children, as he had no contact with children for
    over a year. He stated he never called or tried to be around children since mother
    moved out and had never threatened L.M.K. or stalked her. He also disagreed with
    L.M.K.’s testimony that mother’s home was not visible from the street, noting he
    could see it from Main Street when he was driving by.
    Stepfather testified he has been married to mother for four years. He
    explained he occasionally visits mother at her home when she invites him over, but
    he never went there when the children were there. Stepfather stated that both he
    and mother call each other several times a day because they are in a relationship.
    He explained that although they are separated, they are trying to work on their
    relationship and were in marital counseling before the COVID-19 shutdown.
    Stepfather admitted that when he lived with mother and children that
    he argued with mother and L.M.K. sometimes and said that he and L.M.K. had
    never gotten along and had always “butted heads.” He estimated they got into
    arguments perhaps once a week when one of them had a bad day. As to the
    incident with the shower, stepfather testified he was frustrated with L.M.K.
    repeatedly using all of the hot water.
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    Stepfather admitted he was charged with fourth degree assault in 2011
    for an incident regarding his ex-wife, but noted it was diverted. He explained that
    his ex-wife was intoxicated, he stopped her from leaving while she was
    intoxicated, and she later dismissed the charge.
    Stepfather admitted to drinking some at night, but stated it was not to
    the point of passing out. He stated that L.M.K. could not know about his current
    drinking habits as he had not seen her in a year, so she was not around to see him
    drink.
    Stepfather stated he had five firearms and had most of them for years
    but had purchased a new one in June of 2020. He admitted to being a member of a
    militia.
    Stepfather and L.M.K. were allowed to rebut each other’s testimony,
    which they did. When mother was allowed back in the courtroom, the family court
    indicated to mother that her testimony was not needed, considering mother’s
    concerns with having to testify.3 The family court then announced from the bench
    that it would enter a DVO restraining stepfather from having any contact with
    children and inquired from mother whether she wanted stepfather restrained from
    3
    We acknowledge that the family court was in a difficult position regarding mother’s possible
    testimony. Mother could have had several reasons why she did not want to testify. These could
    include that she did not want to be made to “choose sides” and upset either stepfather or L.M.K.,
    or she may have been worried about what stepfather would do if she testified he had hurt her.
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    mother’s home all the time, or only when children were there. Mother stated that
    stepfather never comes over when children are there, and she wanted him to be
    able to come over when children were not there.
    Following the hearing, an order of protection was entered for one
    year, to expire on October 1, 2021. The family court determined that it was
    established by a preponderance of the evidence that an act of domestic violence
    and abuse had occurred and may occur again.
    To support its ruling, the family court made detailed factual findings
    on a docket sheet as follows:
    Pet. filed on behalf of 17 year old & 13 yr old, against
    Step-Father, due to allegations of dv against Mother, and
    inflicting fear in home.
    Petitioner and Mother share J/C & equal t/s from 2013
    Decree.
    Approximately one year ago, Mother moved out of Resp.
    residence when Father refused to send girls back due to
    d.v. in home.
    Court finds Petitioner(s) testimony credible in that
    Respondent drinks excessively, has significant anger
    issues, has previously threatened eldest child, yells,
    becomes irate, engages in intimidating and insulting
    behavior, and recently got into a “tussle” w/ Child’s
    Mother by grabbing her bag that he did not want her to
    leave w/ because “she always takes his bowls.”
    Resp also owns several firearms and recently joined a
    militia group to “police” protests. Also has prior Assault
    Charge w/ ex-wife, that she dropped.
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    Petitioner also fearful that Resp. is stalking her mother’s
    residence while she is there. Both girls are extremely
    fearful of Step-Father & believe he will hurt their mother
    if she were to file for divorce.
    Court finds Resp has engaged in a pattern of behavior
    inflicting fear of imminent harm.
    The DVO restrained stepfather from going within five hundred feet of
    each child’s school, father’s residence, and mother’s residence, with the caveat for
    mother’s residence that “[r]espondent may go to [mother’s] residence if agreed to
    or invited by owner (his current wife, children’s mother) ONLY UPON condition
    none of the protected parties are there for timesharing etc.” It also noted: “This
    order shall not prevent normal ingress/egress through downtown Versailles, for
    legitimate purposes.” Stepfather was ordered to submit to an alcohol and domestic
    violence assessment and follow all recommendations, and ordered not to possess
    firearms.
    We initially note that father did not file an appellate brief. Pursuant to
    Kentucky Rules of Civil Procedure (CR) 76.12(8)(c):
    If the appellee’s brief has not been filed within the time
    allowed, the court may: (i) accept the appellant’s
    statement of the facts and issues as correct; (ii) reverse
    the judgment if appellant’s brief reasonably appears to
    sustain such action; or (iii) regard the appellee’s failure
    as a confession of error and reverse the judgment without
    considering the merits of the case.
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    “The decision as to how to proceed in imposing such penalties is a matter
    committed to our discretion.” Roberts v. Bucci, 
    218 S.W.3d 395
    , 396 (Ky.App.
    2007). Considering that we are reviewing a case in which children are dependent
    on father to file a responsive brief and our role in interpreting the application of the
    DVO statutes so as to “[a]llow victims to obtain effective, short-term protection
    against further wrongful conduct in order that their lives may be as secure and as
    uninterrupted as possible[,]” Kentucky Revised Statutes (KRS) 403.715(1), we
    decline to impose any penalties and will proceed to consider the matter on the
    merits.
    KRS 403.720(1) defines “domestic violence and abuse” as meaning
    “physical injury, serious physical injury, stalking, sexual abuse, strangulation,
    assault, or the infliction of fear of imminent physical injury, serious physical
    injury, sexual abuse, strangulation, or assault between family members [including a
    stepchild per KRS 403.720(2)] or members of an unmarried couple[.]” KRS
    403.740(1) states that “[f]ollowing a hearing ordered under KRS 403.730, if a
    court finds by a preponderance of the evidence that domestic violence and abuse
    has occurred and may again occur, the court may issue a domestic violence
    order[.]”
    A past finding of domestic violence is not sufficient to enter a DVO;
    there must also be a finding that an act or acts of domestic violence and abuse may
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    again occur in the future. Guenther v. Guenther, 
    379 S.W.3d 796
    , 802 (Ky.App.
    2012). As noted in Rankin v. Criswell, 
    277 S.W.3d 621
    , 626 (Ky.App. 2008), “a
    DVO can be entered only after the court finds that there is an immediate and
    present danger of domestic violence[.]”
    Pursuant to Kentucky Rules of Civil Procedure (CR) 52.01, “[t]he
    standard of review for factual determinations is whether the family court’s finding
    of domestic violence was clearly erroneous.” Caudill v. Caudill, 
    318 S.W.3d 112
    ,
    114 (Ky.App. 2010). “But with regard to the trial court’s application of law to
    those facts, this Court will engage in a de novo review.” Buddenberg v.
    Buddenberg, 
    304 S.W.3d 717
    , 720 (Ky.App. 2010).
    Findings supported by substantial evidence are not clearly erroneous.
    Moore v. Asente, 
    110 S.W.3d 336
    , 354 (Ky. 2003). “Substantial evidence is
    evidence of sufficient probative value that it permits a reasonable mind to accept as
    adequate the factual determinations of the trial court.” Williford v. Williford, 
    583 S.W.3d 424
    , 428 (Ky.App. 2019).
    Stepfather’s first argument is that his due process rights were violated
    because the DVO was granted without a full hearing, where he was not allowed to
    make objections, cross-examine the witnesses, or call witnesses himself. As these
    errors were not preserved below, he seeks palpable error review.
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    “A palpable error which affects the substantial rights of a party may
    be considered . . . by an appellate court on appeal, even though insufficiently raised
    or preserved for review, and appropriate relief may be granted upon a
    determination that manifest injustice has resulted from the error.” CR 61.02. “An
    error is palpable only if it is ‘shocking or jurisprudentially intolerable.’” Allen v.
    Commonwealth, 
    286 S.W.3d 221
    , 226 (Ky. 2009) (quoting Martin v.
    Commonwealth, 
    207 S.W.3d 1
    , 4 (Ky. 2006)). The requisite manifest injustice
    may be found where it can be shown there is a “probability of a different result or
    error so fundamental as to threaten a defendant’s entitlement to due process of
    law.” Martin, 207 S.W.3d at 3.
    Due process in a domestic violence hearing requires that each party
    have a meaningful opportunity to be heard. Wright v. Wright, 
    181 S.W.3d 49
    , 53
    (Ky.App. 2005). “[A] party has a meaningful opportunity to be heard where the
    trial court allows each party to present evidence and give sworn testimony before
    making a decision.” Holt v. Holt, 
    458 S.W.3d 806
    , 813 (Ky.App. 2015).
    Certainly, “[d]ue process is not satisfied when a DVO is granted without a full
    hearing, such as when testimony is not presented, or testimony is cut short.”
    Hawkins v. Jones, 
    555 S.W.3d 459
    , 462 (Ky.App. 2018).
    The problem for stepfather is that he never attempted to make
    objections, asked to cross-examine the witnesses or asked to call witnesses himself.
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    He wishes for this Court to find that there is palpable error based on the family
    court making basic comments about courtroom decorum, which he claims to have
    interpreted to have gagged him from asking for these things. 4 This interpretation
    of what the family court said and did, strains all credulity. From having reviewed
    the hearing, it is evident that the family court was pleasant and respectful to all
    parties, questioned the witnesses in a neutral manner and allowed the parties to
    freely address the court. Neither party made any objection as to the way the family
    court conducted the hearing or asked for clarification as to what was allowed or
    was not allowed.
    Stepfather argues that if he could have objected, he would have
    objected to hearsay statements and this would have changed the outcome of the
    hearing as these statements did not qualify for any exception pursuant to the
    4
    It appears stepfather is attempting to manufacture a reason to excuse his failure to make
    objections, request cross-examination and failure to call mother as a witness in order to get a new
    hearing. It appears likely that as stepfather was appearing pro se, he did not know how to make
    objections or what objections should be made and did not think to ask to cross-examine the
    witnesses or know how to cross-examine them. Even in a relatively informal hearing regarding a
    domestic violence petition, respondents who dispute that a DVO should be issued would be well
    served by retaining counsel because the issuance of a DVO has enormous significance to the
    parties involved. See Wright, 
    181 S.W.3d at 52
    . Unfortunately, “one who is ignorant and
    inexperienced regarding what is required by the substantive law and rules of procedure may
    unintentionally prove the veracity of the oft-quoted maxim, ‘a man who represents himself has a
    fool for a client and a fool for a lawyer.’” Smith v. Bear, Inc., 
    419 S.W.3d 49
    , 55 (Ky.App.
    2013) (quoting Faretta v. California, 
    422 U.S. 806
    , 852, 
    95 S.Ct. 2525
    , 2550, 
    45 L.Ed.2d 562
    (1975) (Blackmun, J. dissenting)). As is evident here, competent counsel could have aided
    stepfather in opposing the request for a DVO. However, as pro se DVO respondents rarely read
    opinions, this caution is unlikely to reach those who most need to hear it.
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    Kentucky Rules of Evidence (KRE). It is well established that a hearing on a
    petition seeking a DVO is subject to the same evidentiary standards as other
    hearings, which includes the exclusion of hearsay to which no exception applies.
    Allen v. Gueltzow, 
    535 S.W.3d 333
    , 335 (Ky.App. 2017). If hearsay evidence is
    wrongfully considered and relied upon, the evidence cannot be of “sufficient
    quality and substantiality to support the rationality of the judgment.” G.E.Y. v.
    Cabinet for Human Resources, 
    701 S.W.2d 713
    , 715 (Ky.App. 1985) (quoting
    Woodby v. Immigration and Naturalization Service, 
    385 U.S. 276
    , 282, 
    87 S.Ct. 483
    , 486, 
    17 L.Ed.2d 362
     (1966) (emphasis original). However, when a trial court
    acts as a fact finder, it is presumed the trial court will be able to disregard hearsay
    statements. 
    Id.
     If it is apparent that a trial court relied on inadmissible hearsay in
    making it decision, “the error in the admission of the unreliable evidence cannot be
    deemed harmless or nonprejudicial.” 
    Id.
    While the family court did not say it was going to disregard all
    hearsay statements, it is apparent from its statements that the family court
    recognized it could not consider hearsay testimony. We note the family court told
    father it would not consider statements father made about what daughter said and
    observed it might need mother’s testimony because she was the person to whom
    certain things happened.
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    Furthermore, the family court’s factual findings were not dependent
    upon any of the hearsay statements made during the testimony. Accordingly, even
    if stepfather were somehow wrongfully prevented from making objections
    regarding hearsay statements, no manifest injustice occurred as a result.
    As to stepfather believing his right to cross-examination was impeded,
    as explained in Cabinet for Health and Family Services v. A.G.G., 
    190 S.W.3d 338
    , 345-46 (Ky. 2006), while civil litigants’ due process right to cross-
    examination is grounded in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, this right is not
    absolute. There can be no palpable error where the process was fair to each side as
    neither side cross-examined the other side, and rebuttal testimony was elicited
    allowing each side to contradict the other’s testimony.
    We are additionally mindful that L.M.K. was a minor and, as provided
    in KRE 611(a)(3), the family court was authorized to “exercise reasonable control
    over the mode . . . of interrogating witnesses . . . so as to: . . . [p]rotect witnesses
    from harassment or undue embarrassment.” This rule gives trial courts “discretion
    to control the presentation of evidence.” Pendleton v. Commonwealth, 
    685 S.W.2d 549
    , 554 (Ky. 1985). So, while L.M.K. could be cross-examined pursuant to KRE
    611(b), we do not fault the family court for deciding not to explicitly ask stepfather
    if he wished to cross-examine the witnesses where L.M.K. had made it clear she
    was afraid of stepfather.
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    As to stepfather’s argument that he wanted to call mother and her
    testimony would have changed the outcome of the hearing, stepfather was
    informed by the family court that he could call witnesses but indicated that he did
    not plan to call anyone but himself and never told the family court that he had
    changed his mind. “Courts are not mind readers. Parties are responsible for being
    clear in what they seek[.]” In re Jackson Masonry, LLC, 
    906 F.3d 494
    , 504 (6th
    Cir. 2018). Having been informed of his right to call witnesses, stepfather had a
    responsibility to do something to communicate his desire to call mother. There
    was no manifest injustice where stepfather waived his right to call mother as a
    witness.
    Stepfather’s second argument is that the evidence did not support
    entry of a DVO because there was no evidence that the children were placed in
    imminent fear of domestic violence or that domestic violence may occur again. He
    argues there was insufficient evidence to establish that he stalked L.M.K., that
    domestic violence between him and L.M.K. may occur again or that he committed
    domestic violence against L.M.K. We examine whether the family court’s factual
    findings would support entry of a DVO, keeping in mind that “to enter a DVO
    when there is no evidence to support a finding of imminent threat of physical
    violence is an abuse of discretion.” Hall v. Smith, 
    599 S.W.3d 451
    , 454 (Ky.App.
    2020).
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    Based upon L.M.K.’s observations which were at least a year old, the
    family court made a credibility finding in favor of L.M.K. and found that
    “[stepfather] drinks excessively, has significant anger issues, has previously
    threatened eldest child, yells, becomes irate, [and] engages in intimidating and
    insulting behavior[.]” Based on stepfather’s own testimony, the family court found
    that stepfather “recently got into a ‘tussle’ [with mother] by grabbing her bag[.]”
    The family court also noted stepfather owns firearms, joined a militia, and had a
    previous charge relating to his ex-wife. The family court focused on the children’s
    fear–fear of stalking, fear of stepfather generally and fear that stepfather will hurt
    mother–in ruling that stepfather’s collective actions were sufficient to determine
    that he committed domestic violence or abuse against children through the
    infliction of fear of imminent physical injury.
    While there was certainly ample evidence to support most of the
    family court’s factual findings, we discuss where its findings are problematic:
    Whether a threat was made, whether stalking was established, and whether the
    infliction of fear of imminent physical injury was established as reasonable.
    As to the threat, stepfather argues that L.M.K. denied that he made a
    threat against her, so it was unreasonable for the family court to find that he
    threatened L.M.K. While we agree that L.M.K. denied that stepfather made a
    threat against her, she then clarified he said, “if he wanted to hurt me he would.”
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    We believe the family court could certainly decide that L.M.K. was incorrect in her
    assessment that this was not a threat, as reasonable people could differ as to their
    assessment as to whether this was a threat or not. Stepfather’s conduct since this
    “threat” was made, reveals that perhaps it is an accurate statement. Stepfather did
    not want to hurt L.M.K. and has not done so. However, we do not believe that the
    family court’s interpretation of this statement as a threat is clearly erroneous.
    As to stalking, stepfather argues his behavior in asking about the car
    cannot constitute stalking as it is only one incident, whereas stalking requires two
    incidents under KRS 508.130(2). He also states that a DVO cannot be granted
    over fear of stalking.
    While the family court did reference L.M.K.’s fear of stalking, it did
    not make a finding that domestic violence or abuse was committed through
    stalking. Instead, stepfather’s conduct was used to help explain L.M.K.’s fear of
    stepfather. We do agree with stepfather, however, that his phone call regarding the
    car does not meet the definition of an act of stalking.
    As explained in Halloway v. Simmons, 
    532 S.W.3d 158
    , 162 (Ky.App.
    2017) (internal citations omitted), which summarized what is needed for an IPO to
    be granted for stalking considering the relevant statutes, which is equally
    applicable to a DVO for stalking:
    [F]or an individual to be granted [a DVO] for stalking, he
    or she must at a minimum prove by a preponderance of
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    the evidence that, an individual intentionally engaged in
    two or more acts directed at the victim that seriously
    alarmed, annoyed, intimidated, or harassed the victim,
    that served no legitimate purpose, and would have caused
    a reasonable person to suffer substantial mental distress,
    and that these acts may occur again. Additionally, the
    individual must prove that there was an implicit or
    explicit threat by the perpetrator that put the victim in
    reasonable fear of sexual contact, physical injury, or
    death.
    There was only one “act” rather than the two required for stalking.
    Additionally, the one act that did occur does not qualify as stalking. There was no
    evidence that stepfather was directing his comment about the car “at the victim”
    where he was talking to mother on the phone and there was no indication he knew
    L.M.K. was listening or expected mother to tell L.M.K. about the conversation.
    Furthermore, L.M.K.’s testimony did not make it clear whether she overheard this
    particular comment or only heard about it later from mother.
    Stepfather’s phone call asking where the car was also would not cause
    “a reasonable person to suffer substantial mental distress” and his relatively
    innocuous question did not contain “an implicit or explicit threat by the perpetrator
    that put the victim in reasonable fear of sexual contact, physical injury, or death.”
    
    Id.
     (emphasis added.) L.M.K. may have suffered distress and feared injury, but
    this does not appear reasonable under the circumstances in which children had not
    had any contact with stepfather in over a year.
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    This then takes us into considering whether the infliction of fear of
    imminent physical injury was established and, therefore, sufficient to constitute
    domestic violence and abuse. While stepfather’s conduct toward L.M.K. more
    than a year earlier could have at that time possibly constituted domestic violence
    and abuse from the infliction of fear of imminent physical injury, we do not believe
    that these stale actions are sufficient to cause the infliction of fear of imminent
    physical injury now or provide a valid basis to believe that domestic violence and
    abuse (if it could be found to have occurred) may occur again relative to children.
    KRS 503.010(3) states: “‘Imminent’ means impending danger, and,
    in the context of domestic violence and abuse as defined by KRS 403.720, belief
    that danger is imminent can be inferred from a past pattern of repeated serious
    abuse.” As explained in Fraley v. Rice-Fraley, 
    313 S.W.3d 635
    , 640 (Ky.App.
    2010), in applying this definition, the respondent must be the one inflicting the fear
    of imminent physical injury on the petitioner. Therefore, when a marriage
    counselor instilled fear of the respondent in petitioner, which was not rooted in
    actions the respondent took constituting domestic violence and abuse, a DVO was
    improperly entered. 
    Id.
     Such an interpretation requires that the petitioner’s fear
    must be the result of the respondent’s actions, not the petitioner’s subjective and
    unreasonable interpretations of innocuous actions.
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    Whether the fear is caused by a third party’s unreasonable
    interpretation or petitioner’s own unreasonable interpretation of the respondent’s
    actions, we conclude that any unreasonable fear cannot form the basis of a finding
    of domestic violence. Although the definition of domestic violence and abuse does
    not state that this fear must be reasonable, our conclusion is supported by four
    unpublished opinions which interpret this language as necessarily including the
    understanding that such fear must be reasonable. Indeed, these opinions do not
    even appear to question the precept that such fear must be reasonable.
    For example, in Robbins v. Meeker, No. 2016-CA-000302-ME, 
    2017 WL 242671
    , at *5 (Ky.App. 2017) (unpublished),5 the Court explained:
    [T]here is no requirement that a respondent must make an
    explicit threat in order to meet the requirements of KRS
    403.740(1). On the other hand, the petitioner’s
    subjective fear alone is likewise insufficient to meet the
    domestic violence requirement in KRS 403.740(1). . . .
    [T]here must be sufficient evidence showing that the
    petitioner has a reasonable fear of imminent domestic
    violence or abuse. While [the petitioner] may have
    subjectively taken [the respondent’s] actions as a threat,
    there was no other evidence to establish that his actions
    were intended as a threat of imminent domestic violence
    or abuse. Therefore, we must conclude that there was
    insufficient evidence in the record to meet the statutory
    standard in KRS 403.740(1).
    5
    Pursuant to CR 76.28(4)(c), we may properly consider these unpublished decisions as there is
    no published opinion which adequately addresses the issue as to whether the infliction of fear of
    imminent physical injury must be reasonable or if any subjective fear is sufficient.
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    See Wenger v. Wenger, No. 2016-CA-000825-ME, 
    2017 WL 544625
    , at *3
    (Ky.App. 2017) (unpublished) (“[a]lthough he did not threaten to hit [petitioner] or
    her mother that day, [respondent’s] past pattern of repeated violent outbursts
    coupled with his intimidating behavior at a location he was explicitly told not to
    come to, rendered [petitioner’s] fear of imminent physical injury reasonable.”);
    Dasch v. Kelley ex rel. Kelley, No. 2009-CA-001539-ME, 
    2010 WL 476001
    , at *5
    (Ky.App. 2010) (unpublished) (noting that to determine the likelihood of future
    domestic violence, a court is able to consider “the petitioner’s reasonable fear of
    the perpetrator based upon past actions.”); O’Bryan v. O’Bryan, No. 2007-CA-
    001538-ME, 
    2008 WL 2852874
    , at *1 (Ky.App. 2008) (unpublished) (“as KRS
    403.720 provides, a petitioner’s fears of physical injury or assault may be used as a
    basis for granting a DVO. Of course, those fears should be objectively
    reasonable.”).
    We also posit that the fear instilled by what another person may be
    suffering or based on other persons’ observations or interactions with a respondent
    which are not tied to anything the respondent may have done relative to the
    petitioner (here the children), is also insufficient for a finding of domestic violence
    as to these uninvolved parties. If stepfather’s “tussle” with mother indeed resulted
    in her being bruised and being scared, stepfather’s conduct could fit within the
    definition of domestic violence through physical injury or the infliction of fear of
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    imminent physical injury relative to mother. However, the problem is, mother did
    not file a petition seeking a DVO and given the limited direct evidence before it,
    the family court at best knew that “something happened” from stepfather’s
    testimony but did not know whether this was akin to “unwanted touching” or rose
    to the level of constituting domestic violence. See Telek v. Daugherty, 
    376 S.W.3d 623
    , 628 (Ky.App 2012); Caudill, 
    318 S.W.3d at 115
    .
    The children’s fear appears to be rooted in their perceptions of what
    stepfather may or may not have done to mother, or may do to mother in the future,
    rather than in any reasonable perception of current danger relative to themselves.
    While we can imagine scenarios when actions taken against or threats made
    against one person could be done with the intent to cause fear to another,
    warranting a DVO, that is not the situation here. We note that father never
    indicated he was scared of what stepfather might do to children but instead testified
    he filed the petition at L.M.K.’s insistence because she was upset about what
    stepfather had done to mother.
    We do not believe that possible recent domestic violence to mother,
    when all the witnesses agree that the children have not seen or talked to stepfather
    for a year, can reasonably cause the infliction of fear of imminent physical injury
    to the children. While an EPO and DVO may have been warranted to protect the
    children right after mother separated from stepfather and children did not know
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    whether stepfather would try to see them, the success in mother’s separation from
    stepfather in keeping children away from stepfather militates against them having
    any reasonable fear of imminent physical injury, especially where children were
    never victims of any physical injury.
    We believe father and mother exercised appropriate protective actions
    in father demanding that mother not exercise timesharing in the house she shared
    with stepfather and mother choosing to live apart from stepfather so that she could
    spend time with children away from stepfather. We appreciate the fact that
    stepfather respected this arrangement. This appears to have been a reasonable and
    workable solution for all concerned and to have amply protected the children
    without any need for court intervention. The separate living arrangements and the
    elapse of time since there has been any contact between stepfather and children
    also negate the risk that domestic violence and abuse may occur again relative to
    the children.
    Although, indeed, it likely feels very personal to children that mother
    may be being harmed by stepfather and we acknowledge that L.M.K. has
    legitimate concerns about stepfather’s conduct towards her mother, see
    Buddenburg, 
    304 S.W.3d at 721
    , the fear of what stepfather may do to mother
    when children are not there is not properly addressed through a DVO protecting
    children. We emphasize, however, that the EPO/DVO process is available to
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    protect mother and/or children should stepfather engage in any domestic violence
    or abuse against them. If stepfather is indeed committing domestic violence
    against mother, we urge her to seek help. If the hearsay statements about what
    L.M.K. related occurred to mother are correct and mother were to testify
    consistently to them, this could warrant a DVO.
    As to children, should stepfather engage in future actions which
    reasonably cause the infliction of fear of imminent physical injury to children, they
    can certainly file for immediate protection.
    Accordingly, we reverse and remand the Woodford Family Court’s
    DVO for it to enter an order dissolving the DVO as there was insufficient evidence
    for its entry.
    ALL CONCUR.
    BRIEF FOR APPELLANT:                         NO BRIEF FOR APPELLEE.
    Joshua A. K. McWilliams
    Versailles, Kentucky
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