DCPP v. M.M. AND V.B., IN THE MATTER OF THE GUARDIANSHIP OF K.M.N., Z.B., ZA.B., L.B., ZAR.B., AND Z.U.B. ( 2019 )


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    APPROVAL OF THE APPELLATE DIVISION
    SUPERIOR COURT OF NEW JERSEY
    APPELLATE DIVISION
    DOCKET NO. A-3597-17T2
    A-3598-17T3
    NEW JERSEY DIVISION
    OF CHILD PROTECTION
    AND PERMANENCY,
    Plaintiff-Respondent,              APPROVED FOR PUBLICATION
    AS REDACTED
    June 19, 2019
    v.
    APPELLATE DIVISION
    M.M. and V.B.,
    Defendants-Appellants,
    and
    E.N.,
    Defendant.
    _____________________________
    IN THE MATTER OF THE
    GUARDIANSHIP OF K.M.N.,
    Z.B., ZA.B., L.B., ZAR.B., and
    Z.U.B.,
    Minors.
    ______________________________
    Argued March 11, 2019 – Decided April 2, 2019
    Before Judges Sabatino, Sumners and Mitterhoff.
    On appeal from Superior Court of New Jersey,
    Chancery Division, Family Part, Hudson County,
    Docket No. FG-09-0206-18.
    Andrew R. Burroughs, Designated Counsel, argued
    the cause for appellant M.M. (Joseph E. Krakora,
    Public Defender, attorney; Andrew R. Burroughs, on
    the briefs).
    James D. O'Kelly, Designated Counsel, argued the
    cause for appellant V.B. (Joseph E. Krakora, Public
    Defender, attorney; James D. O'Kelly, on the briefs).
    Peter D. Alvino, Deputy Attorney General, argued the
    cause for respondent (Gurbir S. Grewal, Attorney
    General, attorney; Jason W. Rockwell, Assistant
    Attorney General, of counsel; Sara M. Gregory,
    Deputy Attorney General, on the brief).
    Nancy P. Fratz, Assistant Deputy Public Defender,
    argued the cause for minors (Joseph E. Krakora,
    Public Defender, Law Guardian, attorney; Nancy P.
    Fratz, on the brief).
    The opinion of the court was delivered by
    SABATINO, P.J.A.D.
    In these consolidated appeals, the mother and father of several children
    seek reversal of the trial court's decision terminating their parental rights after
    a four-day guardianship trial. The children were removed from the parents
    because of allegations of abuse or neglect. Three of the children in question
    presently live with their maternal grandmother and the other three children
    have been placed with a maternal great aunt.
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    The court-approved plan of the Division of Child Protection and
    Permanency ("the Division") is for the maternal grandmother to adopt the three
    children who are in her care, and for the maternal great aunt to likewise adopt
    the other three children. The Law Guardian for the children supports that plan,
    and joins with the Division in urging that we affirm the trial court's decision.
    For the reasons that follow, we affirm the trial court's determination that
    the Division met its burden of proof at trial with respect to the first two prongs
    of the termination statute, N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a), as to both parents.
    However, we remand this case with respect to prongs three and four of the
    statute specifically to: (1) develop the trial record with more clarity as to
    whether    each    resource    parent   unequivocally,     unambiguously,      and
    unconditionally wishes to adopt the children in her care, regardless of the
    potential alternative of Kinship Legal Guardianship ("KLG"); and (2) obtain
    explicit findings by the trial court addressing KLG as it relates to the
    feasibility of adoption and the unequivocal consent of the resource parents to
    adoption. In all other respects, we uphold the trial court's otherwise well-
    founded and well-reasoned decision.
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    I.
    Although the record in this case is extensive, we need not detail it
    exhaustively here.   We summarize only the salient facts pertinent to our
    discussion.
    Defendant M.M.1 ("the mother") is the biological mother of seven
    children: X.M. ("Xander"), born in October 2008; K.M.N. ("Kevin"), born in
    October 2009; Z.B. ("Zarah"), born in September 2011; Za.B. ("Zena"), born
    in August 2013; L.B. ("Larry"), born in April 2015; Zar.B. ("Zadie"), born in
    July 2016; and Z.U.B. ("Zelda"), born in September 2017.
    Xander was placed in the custody of his father, D.B.          The court
    dismissed Xander from this litigation in January 2017.
    Defendant E.N. is the father of Kevin. The trial court terminated E.N.'s
    parental rights after the guardianship trial, which he did not attend. E.N. has
    not appealed the court's decision respecting him and Kevin.
    Defendant V.B. ("the father") is the husband of the mother. He is the
    father of the mother's youngest five children, i.e., Zarah, Zena, Larry, Zadie,
    and Zelda.
    1
    We use initials and pseudonyms to protect the identity of the children. See
    R. 1:38-3(d)(12).
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    As of the time of the guardianship trial in 2018, the Division had been
    involved with the mother and her children for about eight years, and with the
    father for approximately six years. The Division initially removed Xander and
    Kevin from the mother's care in February 2010 after receiving reports that she
    left Kevin on his paternal relatives' porch unattended. Those two sons were
    temporarily returned to the mother's custody in October 2015. Meanwhile,
    Zarah, Zena, and Larry were born, and defendants married.
    In December 2015, the Division learned that Larry, who was then about
    seven months old, had fallen off a bed and was burned by a radiator while in
    the father's care.   The incident was investigated and established as to the
    father's neglect, but the Division did not remove the children at that time.
    In July 2016, the Division removed all of the children from defendants'
    care because the mother had tested positive for marijuana upon Zadie's birth,
    and because caseworker interviews with the children had raised concerns about
    physical abuse. Kevin and Larry were placed with the maternal grandmother.
    Zarah, Zena, and Zadie were placed with the maternal great aunt.
    The Division filed a complaint of guardianship in the Family Part in
    September 2017. That same month the youngest child, Zelda, was born. The
    Division removed Zelda from defendants' care and placed her with the
    maternal grandmother, adding Zelda to its amended guardianship complaint.
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    The evidence at the four-day trial reflected that defendants have
    struggled to be capable as parents.    The evidence is replete with repeated
    marijuana use by both parents, an inability of the parents to provide their ow n
    stable home, unemployment, and indicia of failures to supervise the children,
    including the radiator incident in which Larry sustained second-degree burns.
    Both parents have psychological difficulties, for which they have received
    some counseling.
    The Division made numerous attempts over the years to provide the
    parents with services and to reunify them with their children. The Division's
    key testifying witness at trial, Karen D. Wells, Psy.D., initially in 2011 had
    "cautiously supported" the gradual reunification of the children with the
    mother. Dr. Wells later issued an expert report in 2013, again recommending a
    path towards reunification. However, as time passed, Dr. Wells changed her
    opinion and ultimately concluded that the children are better off if they are
    kept with and adopted by their respective resource parents.
    The father presented testimony from a psychiatrist, Barry A. Katz,
    Ph.D., to rebut the expert opinions of Dr. Wells. After performing bonding
    evaluations of the children and a psychological evaluation of the father, Dr.
    Katz concluded that it would do more harm than good to sever the father's
    parental rights. He predicted that such a termination would place the children
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    at risk for conduct and emotional problems, and difficulties at school. Dr.
    Katz recommended an additional four-to-six month period to reassess the
    circumstances.
    The record at trial showed the Division has provided substantial services
    to both parents. Among other things, those services included substance abus e
    treatment, domestic violence and anger-management counseling, homemaker
    services, temporary rental assistance, and other programs.           In addition, up
    through the time of trial, the Division supported visitation between the parents
    and the children residing with the resource parents. The mother in particular
    visited frequently with the children, with the acquiescence of her own mother
    and the children's maternal great aunt. The father likewise had contact with
    the children during the litigation, albeit seemingly with less frequency.
    Although there have been lapses, both parents have substantially taken
    advantage of the services provided to them.             Nevertheless, the mother
    continued to smoke marijuana and repeatedly tested positive for such drug use
    up through at least February 2017. The mother contends that there is no proof
    that she has ever harmed or neglected the children when she was under the
    influence of marijuana or any other drug. The father, meanwhile, has had
    repeated   relapses,   although   he     tested   negatively   for   marijuana    for
    approximately a year before the trial.
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    As of the time of trial, the parents were both employed. They had an
    apartment, but one not large enough to accommodate all six children. They
    were hoping to save money eventually to rent a larger apartment.
    After considering this and much more extensive evidence, the trial judge
    concluded the Division had proven all four prongs of the termination statute by
    the level of clear and convincing evidence required by N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a).
    In particular, the judge found the expert opinions of the Division's expert, Dr.
    Wells, more persuasive than those of the competing defense expert, Dr. Katz.
    The judge found significant the Division's eight years of efforts to try to
    stabilize the family, and to provide services, all of which were unsuccessful in
    reunifying the children with their parents.
    The judge noted the close bonds between the maternal grandmother and
    maternal great aunt and the children in their respective homes, and she found
    that both resource parents wish to adopt the children presently in their care.
    The judge found the termination of the parents' rights to enable such adoption
    consistent with the children's best interests.
    II.
    A.
    We begin our discussion by acknowledging that the termination of a
    parent's rights to his or her children raises issues of a constitutional dimension.
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    See, e.g., In re Guardianship of K.H.O., 
    161 N.J. 337
    , 346 (1999); see also In
    re Guardianship of J.C., 
    129 N.J. 1
    , 9-10 (1992).        The Legislature has
    recognized the importance of this constitutionally protected relationship
    between a parent and a child by imposing a high burden upon the Division to
    terminate those rights in a guardianship case.      That burden requires the
    Division to prove, by clear and convincing evidence, the following four prongs
    under N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a):
    (1) The child's safety, health or development has been
    or will continue to be endangered by the parental
    relationship;
    (2) The parent is unwilling or unable to eliminate the
    harm facing the child or is unable or unwilling to
    provide a safe and stable home for the child and the
    delay of permanent placement will add to the harm.
    Such harm may include evidence that separating the
    child from his resource family parents would cause
    serious and enduring emotional or psychological harm
    to the child;
    (3) The [D]ivision has made reasonable efforts to
    provide services to help the parent correct the
    circumstances which led to the child's placement
    outside the home and the court has considered
    alternatives to termination of parental rights; and
    (4) Termination of parental rights will not do more
    harm than good.
    [N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a); see also N.J. Div. of Youth
    & Family Servs. v. A.W., 
    103 N.J. 591
    , 604-11 (1986)
    (reciting the four controlling standards later codified
    in Title 30).]
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    On appeal, the mother challenges the trial court's adverse findings as to
    all four prongs. The father concedes the sufficiency of the evidence against
    him as to prong one, but he contests the trial court's analysis as to prongs two,
    three, and four. Both parents include in their various arguments a contention
    that the trial court did not sufficiently consider the option of KLG with the
    resource parents as a possible alternative to adoption.
    In considering these arguments on appeal, we must give substantial
    deference to the trial judge as the fact-finder who presided over this multi-day
    guardianship trial. Our scope of review on appeals from orders terminating
    parental rights is limited. In such cases, the trial court's findings generally
    should be upheld so long as they are supported by "adequate, substantial, and
    credible evidence." N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. R.G., 
    217 N.J. 527
    ,
    552 (2014). A decision in such cases should only be reversed or altered on
    appeal if the trial court's findings were "so wholly unsupportable as to result in
    a denial of justice." N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. P.P., 
    180 N.J. 494
    ,
    511 (2004) (quoting In re Guardianship of J.N.H., 
    172 N.J. 440
    , 472 (2002)).
    We must take into account the trial judge's opportunity to have observed
    the trial witnesses first hand and to evaluate their credibility. R.G., 217 N.J. at
    552. We also must recognize the considerable expertise of the Family Part,
    which repeatedly adjudicates cases brought by the Division under Title 9 and
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    Title 30 involving the alleged abuse or neglect of children. See, e.g., N.J. Div.
    of Youth & Family Servs. v. F.M., 
    211 N.J. 420
    , 448 (2012); N.J. Div. of
    Youth & Family Servs. v. L.J.D., 
    428 N.J. Super. 451
    , 476 (App. Div. 2012).
    B.
    Having applied these standards to the record and the trial court's findings
    in light of the applicable substantive law, we affirm the trial court's decision
    with respect to prongs one and two of the statute. We do so substantially for
    the reasons articulated in the trial judge's extensive written decision dated
    March 29, 2018.
    Although we agree with much of the trial court's analysis with regard to
    prongs three and four of the statute, we presently are unable to affirm the final
    judgment as to those prongs. That is because the factual record, which is
    based upon a series of somewhat inconsistent and conditional hearsay
    statements, is insufficiently clear with respect to issues concerning adoption
    and the potential alternative of KLG. Moreover, the trial court did not mention
    KLG in the course of its written analysis even though it was a facet of the
    parties' closing arguments. Before we address these thorny adoption and KLG
    issues, we briefly comment on the other aspects of the case.
    [At the direction of the court, Parts II(B)(1) and (2)
    of this opinion have been omitted from the
    published version of this opinion. R. 1:36-3.]
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    3.
    Turning to prong three, we are satisfied that the record readily supports
    the trial judge's finding that the Division has made "reasonable efforts" to
    provide appropriate services to both parents. As we have noted, the parents
    have made use of many of these services, albeit inconsistently at times. We
    pause, however, with regard to the last clause of prong three set forth in
    N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a)(3) regarding the adequacy of the trial court's
    consideration of "alternatives to termination of parental rights," and defer our
    discussion on that point to the KLG portion of this opinion in Pa rt II(C).
    4.
    Lastly, subject to the KLG caveat, the trial judge provided a reasonable
    basis for her conclusion on prong four that the termination of both parents'
    rights will not do the children more harm than good under N.J.S.A. 30:4C -
    15.1(a)(4). As the finder of fact, the trial judge had the prerogative to evaluate
    the credibility of the testimony of the competing experts, and to find the
    opinions of Dr. Wells about the children's best interests more persuasive than
    those of Dr. Katz. City of Long Branch v. Liu, 
    203 N.J. 464
    , 491 (2010)
    (explaining the fact finder has the role of assessing the credibility and weight
    to be given to expert testimony); Angel v. Rand Express Lines Inc., 
    66 N.J. Super. 77
    , 85-86 (App. Div. 1961) (same).
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    The present case concerns a distinctive situation in which both resource
    parents happen to be close relatives of one parent (the mother's mother and the
    mother's aunt).   The children have enjoyed visits from the parents with
    considerable frequency. 2   The record also suggests that the children, the
    resource parents, and defendants at times have spent holidays together and
    attended religious services. The children have been capably raised by their
    grandmother and great aunt for many years. They have bonded with them and
    have been cared for well. Subject to the KLG concerns we will address, infra,
    the Division's goal of adoption by the resource parents, with the expectation
    and hope they would continue voluntarily to nurture the children's
    relationships with their mother and father, appears from the trial proofs to have
    several advantages.
    2
    The trial court initially permitted visitation between the children and the
    parents while the appeal was pending. However, we were advised in a pre -
    argument status update that we requested from counsel that, as the result of an
    incident in the summer of 2018, the trial court has since disallowed such
    visitation as to the children staying with the maternal grandmother in an order
    issued in the "FC" docket. The Division and the Law Guardian do not rely on
    such post-trial developments to support their arguments for affirmance. We
    will accordingly ignore this post-judgment information and do not rely upon it
    to defendants' disadvantage, either. We do appreciate counsel's assistance in
    providing the update information, and recognize it was not required to b e
    supplied under Rule 2:6-11(f) (regarding updates of changes of a child's
    "placement status" while an appeal is pending) before we inquired.
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    .
    This brings us to the issue of the potential alternative of KLG to the
    termination of defendants' parental rights. The Kinship Legal Guardianship
    Act, N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-1 to -7, which authorizes KLG, was enacted because
    "the Legislature recognized that an increasing number of children who cannot
    safely reside with their parents are in the care of a relative or a family friend
    who does not wish to adopt the child or children."        N.J. Div. of Youth &
    Family Servs. v. L.L., 
    201 N.J. 210
    , 222-23 (2010).
    As the statute creating KLG declares, "[i]n considering kinship legal
    guardianship, the State is seeking to add another alternative, permanent
    placement option, beyond custody, without rising to the level of termination of
    parental rights, for caregivers in relationships where adoption is neither
    feasible nor likely[.]" N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-1(c). "[T]he purpose of this alternative
    legal arrangement is to address the needs of children who cannot reside with
    their parents due to their parents' incapacity or inability to raise them and when
    adoption is neither feasible nor likely." S.F., 392 N.J. Super. at 209; see also
    P.P., 
    180 N.J. at 508
    .
    Typically, KLG guardians will be caregivers who have a "biological,
    legal, extended or committed emotional or psychological relationship with a
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    child[.]" P.P., 
    180 N.J. at 508
     (quoting S. Budget and Appropriations Comm.
    Statement to S. 1813 (June 25, 2001), reprinted in N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-1). They
    must be "willing to assume care of the child due to parental incapacity or
    inability, with the intent to raise the child to adulthood." 
    Ibid.
     (quoting S.
    Budget and Appropriations Comm. Statement to S. 1813 (June 25, 2001),
    reprinted in N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-1).
    "Once [a] caregiver becomes a kinship legal guardian, the caregiver is
    entitled to make all decisions relating to the care and well-being of the child."
    N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. D.H., 
    398 N.J. Super. 333
    , 340 (App.
    Div. 2008) (citing N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-4(a)(1)).         As this court has further
    explained:
    KLG, however, does not terminate parental
    rights. . . . The birth parents retain the right to: (1)
    consent to adoption . . . (2) change the child's name . .
    . and (3) visit the child . . . . The birth parents also
    remain obligated to pay child support. . . .
    Additionally, children are still eligible to receive
    inheritance, benefits, or insurance from their birth
    parents.
    [Id. at 341 (citations omitted) (citing N.J.S.A.
    3B:12A-4(a)(2)-(5)).]
    In order to conclude that a KLG arrangement is appropriate, the court
    must find that:
    (1) each parent's incapacity is of such a serious nature
    as to demonstrate that the parents are unable,
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    unavailable or unwilling to perform the regular and
    expected functions of care and support of the child;
    (2) the parents' inability to perform those functions is
    unlikely to change in the foreseeable future;
    (3) in cases in which the [D]ivision is involved with
    the child . . . (a) the [D]ivision exercised reasonable
    efforts to reunify the child with the birth parents and
    these reunification efforts have proven unsuccessful or
    unnecessary; and (b) adoption of the child is neither
    feasible nor likely; and
    (4) awarding kinship legal guardianship is in the
    child's best interests.
    [N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-6(d) (emphasis added).]
    The decision of a resource parent to choose adoption over KLG must be
    an informed one. See H.R., 431 N.J. Super. at 232-33. In deciding whether or
    not to appoint a caregiver as a KLG, the judge must decide if KLG is in the
    child's best interests and – when the Division is involved with the parents – if
    the Division has made reasonable efforts at reunification and if the adoption of
    the child "is neither feasible nor likely." N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-6(d).
    The Legislature has made it clear that relative caretakers who might be
    candidates for KLG must be adequately informed of the nature of such
    arrangements and the financial and other services for which they may be
    eligible.   To achieve that objective, the Legislature enacted in 2005 the
    Kinship Legal Guardianship Notification Act ("Notification Act"), N.J.S.A.
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    30:4C-89 to -92. In the Act, the Legislature imposed a responsibility upon the
    State "to ensure that individuals who may be eligible to become kinship legal
    guardians are aware of the eligibility requirements for, and the responsibilities
    of, kinship legal guardianship and . . . [also] the services available to kinship
    legal guardians in the State." N.J.S.A. 30:4C-90(e).
    To implement this notification mandate:
    The Department of Children and Families [3]
    shall, in easily understandable language:
    a. inform individuals, of whom the department
    is aware, who may be eligible to become kinship legal
    guardians of:
    (1) the eligibility requirements for, and the
    responsibilities of, kinship legal guardianship; and
    (2) the full-range of services for which kinship
    legal guardians may be eligible and the eligibility
    requirements for those services; and
    b. inform current kinship legal guardians of the
    full-range of services for which kinship legal
    guardians may be eligible and the eligibility
    requirements for those services.
    [N.J.S.A. 30:4C-91].
    3
    The statute was amended in 2012 to substitute the Department of Children
    and Families for the Department of Human Services. See L. 2012, c. 16, § 112
    (eff. June 29, 2012).
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    The statute further directs that the Commissioner of the Department "shall
    adopt rules and regulations . . . to effectuate the purposes of [the statute]."
    N.J.S.A. 30:4C-92.4      No published cases to date have interpreted the
    notification statute.
    The Division has asserted that the KLG statutory scheme must be
    construed with a focus upon the requirement in N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-6(d)(3)(b)
    that, in cases such as the present one in which the Division has been involved
    with the child, KLG is appropriate only if "adoption of the child is neither
    feasible nor likely." In a number of published opinions involving arguments
    by terminated parents advocating KLG, our courts have enforced this
    requirement that adoption must not be feasible or likely. See, e.g., P.P., 
    180 N.J. at 513
    ; N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. T.I., 
    423 N.J. Super. 127
    ,
    130 (App. Div. 2011).
    The Division argues that the statutory scheme must be construed to treat
    the caregiver's role as simply deciding whether he or she is willing to adopt the
    child in question. According to the Division, a caregiver's preference of KLG
    versus adoption is inconsequential. The Division argues that giving credence
    to a caregiver's preference would result, in effect, in placing the caregiver in an
    4
    Our research has not found any such adopted regulations, and none have
    been cited in the parties' briefs.
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    inappropriate position of rendering non-expert opinions concerning the child's
    best interests, a question reserved for the Family Part judge. Moreover, the
    Division expresses concerns that asking a caretaker who is willing to adopt a
    child whether he or she would prefer instead a lesser role through a KLG
    arrangement inappropriately clouds the legal analysis and injects an
    unwarranted comparison of adoption-versus-KLG into the analysis.
    Although we appreciate these concerns and agree that the caregiver
    should not be placed in the role of functioning as the ultimate "decision -
    maker" as to a child's fate, we do not regard the preferences, if any, of the
    caregiver to be categorically irrelevant.      A logical implication of the
    Notification Act is that the caregiver must be fully informed of the potential
    benefits and burdens of KLG before deciding whether he or she wishes to
    adopt. Once he or she is provided with that comparative information, the
    caretaker's preference between the two alternatives should matter.
    The paradigm is somewhat akin to the principle of informed consent, and
    its corollary principle of informed refusal, in health care. A physician may not
    proceed with a medical procedure that has been fully described to an informed
    patient if the patient states that he or she would prefer to pursue less drastic
    measures (such as medication or physical therapy) before undergoing a more
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    drastic option (such as surgery). 5 In such a comparative situation, the patient
    may be amenable to the more drastic alternative but would rather attempt the
    less drastic one, as between those two alternatives.
    To take a more everyday and less monumental example, suppose a
    teenager asks her parent if she can drive the family car to a party. The parent
    may respond, "Yes, but only if none of the other parents can drive you." In
    this situation, the parent would prefer to have someone else drive the child,
    and her informed consent is only conditional on such other options being
    unavailable.
    Although these analogies may not be completely on point, they are
    somewhat instructive. Indeed, a leading New Jersey treatise on child custody
    and child protection issues describes the caretaker's "decision to choose"
    5
    Analogous case law in medical negligence matters describes informed
    consent as a concept in which a person supplied with adequate knowledge
    chooses among the alternative options presented to him or her. See, e.g.,
    Jarrell v. Kaul, 
    223 N.J. 294
    , 311 (2015) (explaining informed consent as a
    concept "predicated on the duty of a physician to disclose to a patient such
    information as will enable the patient to make an evaluation of the nature of
    the treatment and of any attendant substantial risks, as well as of available
    options in the form of alternative therapies.") (emphasis added) (quoting
    Largey v. Rothman, 
    110 N.J. 204
    , 208 (1988)); Matthies v. Mastromonaco,
    
    160 N.J. 26
    , 28-29 (1999) (holding "to obtain a patient's informed consent to
    one of several alternative courses of treatment, the physician should explain
    medically reasonable invasive and noninvasive alternatives, including the risks
    and likely outcomes of those alternatives, even when the chosen course is
    noninvasive.") (emphasis added).
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    adoption over KLG as a choice, which "must be an informed one." Fall &
    Romanowski, Current N.J. Family Law, Child Custody, Protection & Support
    § 18:3-4(c) (2018).
    Moreover, the KLG statute requires the court to consider the "wishes" of
    the child's parents and, if the child is over the age of twelve, the "wishes" of
    the child. N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-6(a)(6) and (7). Logically, the "wishes" of the
    caregiver also should bear upon the analysis. In addition, the KLG statute
    requires the court to consider "the commitment of the kinship caregiver and the
    caregiver's family to raise the child to adulthood." N.J.S.A. 3B:12A-6(a)(10).
    A fair judicial assessment of that "commitment" reasonably includes
    consideration of whether the caregiver's position is qualified or diluted by a
    preference for an alternative option, or is predicated upon some other
    conditions or expectations being fulfilled.
    In sum, we construe the KLG statute and the Notification Act to make a
    caregiver's preference, if any, of KLG over adoption a relevant but not
    dispositive consideration. The caregiver's consent to adopt should be not only
    informed, but also unconditional, unambiguous, and unqualified.
    We are mindful that, as the Supreme Court stated in P.P., 
    180 N.J. at 513
    , a case decided before the 2005 passage of the Notification Act, "when the
    permanency provided by adoption is available, kinship legal guardianship
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    cannot be used as a defense to termination of parental rights[.]" We are also
    cognizant that the Court made clear in P.P. that if the defendants were not fit
    to parent their children, "the trial court should not consider [KLG] unless . . .
    [the resource parents] decline[d] to adopt." 
    Id. at 514
    . In faithfully adhering
    to those admonitions, however, it is also vital that the evidence before the trial
    court regarding the caregivers' intentions has sufficient clarity and evidential
    reliability.
    As this court observed in T.I., 423 N.J. Super. at 130, following the
    enactment of the Notification Act, "when a caregiver in a case brought by the
    Division . . . unequivocally asserts a desire to adopt, the finding required for a
    KLG that 'adoption of a child is neither feasible nor likely' cannot be met."
    (Emphasis added).        Such unequivocal evidence was presented in a
    "compelling" manner in T.I., in which the child's paternal grandfather testified
    at the guardianship trial and stated "unequivocally" that he and his wife wanted
    to adopt the child. Id. at 136. The adoptive grandfather attested that the
    Division had explained the difference between adoption and KLG, that he had
    "given the matter careful consideration," and that he believed KLG would
    "threaten the stability" the child enjoyed in his family. Ibid. The grandfather
    also testified that "there was no event or circumstance he could envision that
    would change his mind." Ibid.
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    Given this unequivocal testimony in T.I., we rejected the parent's
    argument that the trial court should have considered KLG as an alternative to
    termination. The grandfather's testimony "show[ed] that he clearly understood
    the alternatives and that his reasons for rejecting a KLG were consistent with
    the Legislature's stated goals." Id. at 137. "[T]he trial court did not abdicate
    its obligation in accepting [the grandfather's] testimony, which clearly defeated
    any finding that adoption was not feasible or likely." Ibid. (emphasis added).
    Hence, there was no need in T.I. "to determine whether KLG was in the best
    interest" of the child. Ibid.
    By contrast, the record in this case is muddy. The documents in the
    record and the testimony of the lay and expert witnesses in this case refer in
    various places to KLG. To be sure, that evidence reflects, and it is undisputed,
    that there were repeated discussions by Division staff with, respectively, the
    maternal grandmother and the maternal great aunt concerning KLG.                 In
    addition, the father's expert, Dr. Katz, discussed KLG with at least the
    maternal great aunt. Dr. Katz addressed KLG in his pretrial expert report and,
    over objection, in his trial testimony. Dr. Wells, the Division's expert, did not
    explicitly discuss KLG in her trial testimony or in the analytical portion of her
    report. However, she did opine that adoption was feasible for both resource
    parents and she recommended termination to enable such adoption.
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    Unlike in T.I., neither of the resource parents in this case testified.
    Consequently, the communications by and with them concerning adoption and
    KLG are all hearsay statements, a circumstance which we recognize is not
    unusual in guardianship litigation.       The mother's trial attorney objected to
    hearsay contained in the Division's contact sheets. The trial judge ruled as
    follows:
    [THE COURT]: And then, again, your final
    [objection] is all the hearsay contained in the evidence
    packet, especially P-313. You may make objections
    as we go along. Absolutely. And any hearsay that
    there's no exception for is not admissible.
    The father's trial attorney later objected on hearsay grounds to the supervisor's
    testimony regarding her discussions of KLG with the resource parents. The
    judge sustained that objection and did not permit the supervisor to elaborate on
    the hearsay discussion.
    2.
    Noting these evidentiary rulings, we now proceed to discuss, in roughly
    chronological form, the evidence respecting each of the resource parents on
    this subject.
    First, a Division caseworker's entry in a contact sheet reflects that in
    September 2012, the maternal grandmother stated she wanted to adopt her
    grandsons Xander and Kevin.           This statement is of only partial relevance
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    concerning Kevin, since the placement of Xander is not challenged and he is
    not one of the six children at issue in this case.
    The Division again discussed adoption and KLG with the maternal
    grandmother in 2013. The contact sheets from that time period reflect that the
    maternal grandmother again was willing to adopt Xander and Kevin, and she
    apparently filled out adoption "paperwork."
    According to a later contact sheet on August 7, 2015, the maternal
    grandmother told a caseworker, in conditional words, that she would "consider
    obtaining sole custody of [Xander and Kevin] if she will be able to obtain
    public assistance for them." (Emphasis added). The maternal grandmother
    further ambiguously stated to the caseworker "she is also willing to adopt or
    get KLG for [Kevin and Xander]." (Emphasis added).
    On October 2, 2015, a caseworker met with the maternal grandmother,
    who informed the caseworker she believed the Division was planning to return
    Xander and Kevin to their mother.          According to the contact sheet, the
    maternal grandmother at that time "mentioned that she does not want to adopt
    [the two boys] because she does not believe [the mother] is such a bad parent
    that deserves her parental rights to be terminated."        (Emphasis added).
    Additionally, the entry states that the maternal grandmother "indicated that she
    has been reading about KLG in the Division's web page and she is considering
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    doing KLG for [Xander and Kevin]." (Emphasis added). The caseworker
    advised the maternal grandmother to "talk with the local [Division] office
    worker and supervisor to discuss the matter." Later that month, the court
    ordered the children to be immediately reunited with the mother.
    The Division removed the children from the mother and father once
    again in July 2016 following the mother's positive drug test at Zadie's birth.
    The children were thereafter placed respectively with the maternal
    grandmother and the maternal great aunt.
    On September 22, 2016, a caseworker spoke with the parents about the
    possibility of entering into a KLG for Kevin with the maternal grandmother.
    The parents stated they wanted to be reunified with all of their children. The
    mother expressed concerns that KLG would "build a wedge" between her and
    the maternal grandmother.
    A few months later, on December 13, 2016, the maternal great aunt
    reportedly told a caseworker that, with respect to the children in her care, s he
    was "willing to adopt or do kinship legal guardianship as long as she
    receive[d] financial assistance." (Emphasis added).
    Further discussions with the resource parents concerning adoption and
    KLG occurred in 2017. On March 21 of that year, the maternal grandmother
    reportedly told a caseworker that she had "researched" KLG and adoption, and
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    that she "underst[ood]" the difference between them.       The contact sheet
    indicates the maternal grandmother "did not want to discuss KLG and adoption
    because [she felt] her opinion on the matter was not acknowledged last time."
    In particular, the maternal grandmother reportedly stated that she had "wanted
    KLG with [Kevin and Xander] and the children were [nonetheless] reunified"
    with their mother. 6 The maternal grandmother articulated frustration that she
    had "addressed the judge and expressed her stance [but] reunification still
    proceeded." Reportedly, the maternal grandmother further stated she did not
    think the mother and father were ready to parent "because they did not have
    the proper resources," and that "she did not want the children to be moved"
    from her own care.
    That same day, March 21, 2017, the caseworker separately met with the
    maternal great aunt, and reviewed with her the differences between adoption
    and KLG. According to the contact sheet, the maternal great aunt reportedly
    6
    This is confusing, because the maternal grandmother had seemingly
    expressed a previous desire to adopt, not to have KLG. The trial testimony
    does not enlighten us as to whether this was a misperception of the maternal
    grandmother's actual comment or whether the grandmother may have been
    confused.
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    stated at that time "she is willing to adopt," and she signed an acknowledgment
    "receipt" confirming that. 7
    On April 5, 2017, a caseworker met with the maternal grandmother and
    again reportedly discussed with her the differences between adoption and
    KLG. This contact sheet contains a somewhat confusing entry, indicating that
    the maternal grandmother "felt more comfortable with proceeding with a plan
    for permanency."         The comment does not clarify what the maternal
    grandmother meant by this, since both adoption and KLG involve permanent
    future relationships.    Apparently, the maternal grandmother reportedly did
    state that she "understood it was the court that authorized KLG or adoption,"
    rather than the Division.      The contact sheet also stated that the maternal
    grandmother was "committed to the children long term, via adoption, if the
    courts approve termination of parental rights." (Emphasis added).
    Later, the maternal grandmother reportedly told the caseworker on
    August 17, 2017, in response to a question about her "stance on adoption," that
    she was "committed to her grandchildren and will adhere by [sic] whatever the
    court decides." (Emphasis added). The contact sheet and the trial testimony
    do not make clearer what this meant.
    7
    The "receipt" does not appear to be in the trial record.
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    Meanwhile, another contact sheet reflects on July 11, 2017, the maternal
    great aunt reportedly told the caseworker that she had read a "fact sheet"
    concerning adoption and KLG. According to the contact sheet, this review by
    the maternal great aunt "satisfied her concerns," and she was willing to adopt
    Zarah, Zena, and Zadie.
    Following Zelda's birth in September 2017, the newborn child was
    placed in the maternal grandmother's care with Kevin and Larry.              The
    caseworker met with the maternal grandmother on September 12, who
    reportedly stated that she "wanted to adopt the three children" and that she was
    "committed to caring for them long term."
    Another contact sheet states that on December 21, 2017 the maternal
    grandmother told the caseworker that she hopes to move to another state after
    the adoption of the children in her care. According to the contact sheet, the
    maternal grandmother stated that the area in which she lived had become
    unsafe and she wanted to move the children to a safer neighborhood. This
    contact sheet also reflects that the maternal grandmother spoke with the
    caseworker about how she became interested in adopting the children in her
    care.
    After the Division's expert, Dr. Wells, performed bonding evaluations on
    December 14, 2017, with the children and the maternal great aunt, Dr. Wells
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    issued a report on January 28, 2018. The report states that the maternal great
    aunt "has committed to adoption" of Zarah, Zena, and Zadie, and that she is
    "committed to permanency via adoption." Dr. Wells's analysis does not refer
    to KLG, apart from mentioning it in the factual background. Dr. Wells also
    submitted an expert report that same day summarizing her bonding evaluation
    of the maternal grandmother.        The report similarly states the maternal
    grandmother "has indicated that she is committed to adoption of [Kevin, Larry,
    and Zelda], if they become legally free." Again, the expert report does not
    expressly mention KLG beyond the factual background.
    Dr. Wells's trial testimony did not illuminate any further the resource
    parents' desires with respect to adoption versus KLG. Her testimony did not
    mention KLG, and none of the attorneys asked her about the subject.
    In his own expert report dated February 2, 2018, Dr. Katz indicated that
    the maternal grandmother had stated to him that "she had tried adoption before
    with the 2 older children [i.e., Xander and Kevin], and that is when the judge
    had given them back to the biological parents." According to Dr. Katz, the
    maternal grandmother told him "she is seeking adoption this time." Dr. Katz's
    report is inconsistent, however, with regard to the maternal great aunt's
    intentions:
    [The maternal great aunt] said she will adopted [sic]
    the children if the case goes that way. [The maternal
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    great aunt] said she prefers KLG over adoption. [The
    maternal great aunt] said she feels adoption will be
    more stable for the children.
    [The maternal great aunt] said the parents have open
    visitation at her home. [The maternal great aunt] said
    the parents come to visit the children about 2 or 3
    times a month. [The maternal great aunt] denied that
    there have been any problems with the visits. [The
    maternal great aunt] said she would continue to have
    open visits, even if the children were adopted.
    [(Emphasis added).]
    At trial, Dr. Katz testified, after an overruled hearsay objection by the
    Division's attorney, that the maternal great aunt had told him that "she
    preferred KLG over adoption."
    The two Division staff members who testified at trial provided only
    limited information on these critical subjects. The caseworker who testified
    had not been assigned to this case until October 2017. The other Division
    witness, a supervisor, had been the supervisor on the case between October
    2015 and about July 2017, and previously had been involved with the family in
    2011 or 2012.
    The caseworker for the Division provided incomplete testimony on the
    subject of the resource parents' intentions.       On cross-examination by the
    father's trial attorney, the caseworker testified as follows:
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    Q     Starting first with the maternal great aunt,
    did you take any steps to discuss KLG versus adoption
    with her?
    A     With --
    Q     With -- with -- with the aunt.
    A     [The maternal great aunt] or --
    Q     Yes. Yes.
    A     Did I take any steps?
    Q     Right.
    A      Yes. When I first met her [the maternal great
    aunt], we talked about my role, and I said that I would
    be an adoption worker, and she talked about that she
    was just at court and that they did discuss KLG versus
    adoption, and she was saying that -- how she wanted
    to adopt the children, and it was the goal that she
    wanted.
    Q     And your conversation with -- with [the
    maternal grandmother], did you discuss with her the
    differences between KLG and adoption?
    A      Yes. Well, again, they were also -- we saw them
    the same day, and they were at court. And the
    conversation was at mediation, so they were just
    telling me about what I had heard at court.
    Q     And did --
    A     And we did discuss that.[8]
    8
    The testimony did not go further to convey the desires of the maternal
    grandmother.
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    Q       Did you discuss that subject with them
    together?
    A     No. Different -- they live in different houses.
    [The father's trial attorney]: I have no further
    questions, Your Honor. Thank you.
    [(Emphasis added).]
    On cross-examination by the mother's trial attorney, the following limited
    testimony was elicited about the maternal grandmother's intentions, before the
    Deputy Attorney General objected:
    Q    You said you did discuss KLG and
    adoption with regards to the maternal grandmother,
    correct?
    A     Yes. We did talk about that.
    Q     Now from your case records, the Division
    had discussed those things which happened in the past.
    Is that correct?
    A     Many times. Yes.
    Q     Isn't it correct that, in fact, she did tell the
    Division that she will adopt to avoid the children
    being placed outside of her home?
    [The Division's trial attorney]: Objection. Hearsay.
    THE COURT: It's hearsay.
    [(Emphasis added).]
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    The supervisor explained in her testimony that she had met with the
    maternal grandmother and maternal great aunt after a proceeding. 9 According
    to the supervisor, she at that time "explained the differences between KLG and
    adoption" to the two resource parents, and had them "give the information
    back to [her] to make sure they were very clear in their understanding." The
    supervisor began to relate that the maternal great aunt was "very adamant that
    she felt like the children needed a chance, that they needed permanency." At
    that point, defense counsel interposed a hearsay objection, which the court
    sustained.    On cross-examination, the supervisor did acknowledge that the
    term "permanency" can apply to either adoption or KLG.
    In counsel's summations at the close of the trial, they discussed KLG.
    Defendants advocated KLG, and Kevin's law guardian and the Division
    opposed it.
    3.
    In the analytic portion of her written opinion following the trial, the
    judge did not discuss KLG. The opinion does, however, contain this finding,
    without elaboration concerning the resource parents' intentions:
    The Court has considered alternatives to
    [t]ermination and there are no viable alternatives. The
    9
    The record is murky as to the exact nature of that proceeding and when it
    occurred.
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    children are placed with relatives who want to adopt
    them.
    The Court therefore finds that the Division has
    met this prong by clear and convincing evidence that
    reasonable efforts were offered to the parents. There
    are no alternatives to termination of parental rights as
    the foster parents want to adopt.
    While this appeal was pending, the Law Guardian moved for this court
    to supplement the record by tendering signed post-trial certifications dated
    November 10 and 14, 2018, from both the maternal grandmother and the
    maternal great aunt, in which they attested that they are each committed to
    adopting the children in their care. Defense counsel opposed that motion,
    because the certifications were not part of the record presented to the trial
    judge and defense counsel did not have the opportunity to contest or rebut such
    proof at trial.10 Another panel of this court denied that motion.
    Even if these post-trial evidentiary proffers are considered, the maternal
    great aunt does not address or explain the discrepancy between the proffer and
    her alleged statement to Dr. Katz that she wanted KLG.              Nor does the
    certification from the maternal grandmother make clear why her position h as
    vacillated in the past, and whether her willingness to adopt is unconditional
    and unqualified.
    10
    The Attorney General took no position on the motion.
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    4.
    Viewing all of these bits of hearsay in their totality, we cannot determine
    with confidence from the present record whether the resource parents – by a
    level of clear and convincing evidence – are committed unambiguously,
    unequivocally, and unconditionally to adoption, regardless of the possible
    alternative of KLG.       Both resource parents have made equivocal and
    ambiguous hearsay statements about this subject at various points in time. For
    example, the entry in Dr. Katz's report – and his attempted trial testimony –
    attesting that the maternal great aunt told him that she wanted KLG over
    adoption is, to say the least, concerning.
    The maternal grandmother's hearsay statements seem somewhat more
    definitive, but they, too, leave reason to doubt whether she ostensibly favors
    adoption based upon a mistaken premise that adoption is the only
    "permanency" option, and not KLG. This may not be merely a situation of
    "initial reluctance," about adoption, see Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. S.V.,
    
    362 N.J. Super. 76
    , 81, 87-88 (App. Div. 2003), but rather one in which one or
    both resource parents may be under a mistaken premise. See, e.g., H.R., 431
    N.J. Super. at 232-33 (in which we remanded a final judgment of guardianship
    because the caretaker mistakenly thought that KLG was unavailable for
    children under the age of twelve). Here, the possible mistaken premise, which
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    the court did not allow defense counsel to explore on cross-examination, is
    whether the maternal grandmother is willing to adopt because she mistakenly
    believes that the children would be removed from her if she stated she favored
    KLG.
    The omission of any discussion of KLG within the analytic portion of
    the trial court's otherwise thorough opinion also gives us pause. The KLG
    subject was directly addressed by counsel in their competing arguments during
    summations.    To be sure, the court's unelaborated finding that adoption is
    feasible could be interpreted as an implicit finding that KLG has no bearing or
    role in this case. But that finding is based upon a rather confusing ambiguous
    record of a series of hearsay assertions by the two resource parents.         We
    cannot "reverse engineer" the judge's unwritten thought process on the subject.
    The judge did not explain or reconcile the vacillating and ambiguous
    statements attributed in hearsay from the maternal great aunt and grandmother.
    We by no means wish to prolong this litigation for hyper-technical
    reasons. We certainly recognize the well-established objective of achieving
    the children's permanency. Nevertheless, given the important constitutional
    rights that are at stake, and the stringent clear-and-convincing standards of
    proof, this record needs to be more definitive on this vital subject.
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    We are mindful this is an extended family situation. For many years
    there has been frequent and loving contact between the children, their maternal
    grandmother, their maternal great aunt, their mother, and their fath er. The
    family setting has many characteristics that would seem to make KLG a
    potentially feasible alternative to adoption. Of course, if both of the resource
    parents   truly   want   to   adopt      –    unequivocally,   unambiguously,    and
    unconditionally and irrespective of KLG – and termination of parental rights
    and adoption is clearly in the children's best interests, the final judgment to
    that effect should be reaffirmed. For the moment, however, the proofs that
    were presented at trial are simply too cloudy to support affirmance on this one
    limited, but vitally important, issue.
    5.
    The matter is therefore remanded for further proceedings to develop the
    record more definitively on the adoption/KLG issue and for the rendering of
    explicit associated findings of fact and conclusions of law.
    We defer to the trial court's discretion as to what forms of proof would
    be appropriate at the remand hearing. Subject to potential timely objection, we
    do not require, per se, the testimony of either resource parent, as we appreciate
    that presenting such testimony and withstanding the rigors of cross-
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    examination by defense counsel may be stressful for the resource parents and
    possibly disharmonious to the whole extended family.
    Of course, if one or both of the maternal grandmother or maternal great
    aunt are willing to testify nonetheless, we presume the trial court would
    welcome such evidence. We also defer to the trial court as to whether any
    supplemental expert reports and testimony are appropriate to address these
    subjects, given the passage of time and interim events.
    We need not resolve here whether it was appropriate for the trial court to
    admit or consider certain hearsay statements attributed to the resource parents
    about their views concerning adoption and KLG. For one thing, counsel did
    not consistently oppose the admission of such hearsay, depending on whether
    the particular statement supported or undermined the client's trial strategy. For
    example, the Division's counsel presented the contact sheets and testimony
    from its witnesses conveying various hearsay statements made by the resou rce
    parents, but objected on hearsay grounds when defense counsel comparably
    presented testimony from Dr. Katz relating that the maternal great aunt had
    told him she preferred KLG.         Reciprocally, defense counsel objected to
    testimony by the caseworker and supervisor conveying the out-of-court
    statements of the resource parents but presented such hearsay through Dr.
    Katz.
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    "[H]earsay subject to a well-founded objection is generally evidential if
    no objection is made." N.J. Div. of Child Prot. & Permanency v. J.D., 
    447 N.J. Super. 337
    , 348-49 (App. Div. 2016). "When objectionable hearsay is
    admitted in a bench trial without objection, we presume that the fact-finder
    appreciates the potential weakness of such proofs, and takes that into account
    in weighing the evidence." Id. at 349. A problem with the present record is
    that the resource parents' hearsay was treated in an inconsistent pattern: some
    of it was objected to and excluded, and some of it was allowed. On remand,
    we trust the hearsay will be handled with consistency. We suggest that a case
    management conference be conducted to address these evidential issues in
    limine in light of Rule 5:12-4(d) and case law excluding improper embedded
    hearsay statements by third parties.
    III.
    Affirmed in part and remanded in part. The remand shall be completed
    within ninety days, unless that deadline is reasonably extended further by the
    trial court upon the consent of all counsel. We do not retain jurisdiction. Any
    party may pursue a new appeal from the outcome of the remand. Any issues of
    interim visitation or contact are reserved for the trial court.
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