Triplett v. Univ. Hosps. Cleveland Med. Ctr. , 2022 Ohio 3553 ( 2022 )


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  • [Cite as Triplett v. Univ. Hosps. Cleveland Med. Ctr., 
    2022-Ohio-3553
    .]
    COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
    EIGHTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    COUNTY OF CUYAHOGA
    DANNY TRIPLETT,                                         :
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                    :
    No. 111271
    v.                                     :
    UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS
    CLEVELAND MEDICAL CENTER,
    ET AL.,                                                 :
    Defendant-Appellant.                   :
    JOURNAL ENTRY AND OPINION
    JUDGMENT: REVERSED AND REMANDED
    RELEASED AND JOURNALIZED: October 6, 2022
    Civil Appeal from the Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas
    Case No. CV-20-936289
    Appearances:
    Nurenberg, Paris, Heller & McCarthy Co., L.P.A., Brenda
    M. Johnson, Pamela Pantages, William S. Jacobson, and
    Dana M. Paris, for appellee.
    Reminger Co., L.P.A. and Brian D. Sullivan, Jeanne M.
    Mullin, and Matthew J. Turkalj, for appellant.
    CORNELIUS J. O’SULLIVAN, JR., J.:
    Defendant-appellant, University Hospitals Health System, Inc., filed
    this interlocutory appeal to challenge the trial court’s decision to grant, individually
    and as the administrator of the estate of his late wife, plaintiff-appellee Danny R.
    Triplett’s motion to compel and deny his motion for a protective order. After a
    thorough review of the trial court record and the law, we reverse.
    On April 30, 2020, Carly Triplett (“Triplett”) gave birth to her second
    child at University Hospitals (“UH”). Triplett and her newborn child were in the
    hospital for approximately 48 hours before they were discharged. On May 4, 2020,
    while taking her newborn to his first well-baby visit, Triplett collapsed in the
    pediatrician’s waiting room. Triplett underwent emergency surgery at another
    hospital, but efforts to save her were unsuccessful and she passed away.
    On August 21, 2020, appellee filed a complaint against University
    Hospitals Health System, Inc. and numerous entities and individually named care
    providers alleging they were negligent in the postpartum care of Triplett and that
    negligent care resulted in her death.      Appellee asserted a claim for medical
    negligence alleging that the defendants’ care fell below the medical and surgical
    standards of care and were negligent in the way they failed to recognize and treat
    Triplett’s postpartum retroperitoneal bleed.      Appellee also alleged that the
    defendants’ negligence resulted in Triplett’s death, causing appellants to be liable
    for wrongful-death damages under R.C. Chapter 2125.
    Appellee filed an amended complaint asserting claims against
    University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center and University Hospitals Medical
    Group. The substantive allegations asserted in the amended complaint remained
    the same. On May 6, 2021, appellee voluntarily dismissed his claims against all
    defendants except for UH.
    On November 17, 2021, appellee filed a motion to compel appellant to
    produce “the Obstetric Hemorrhage Learning Modules in effect and reviewed by any
    of Carly Triplett’s UH care providers from 2010 up to and including the time of
    Mrs. Triplett’s discharge from UH on May 2, 2020” (hereinafter referred to as
    “Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules” or “modules”). Appellant responded by
    filing a motion for a protective order on November 29, 2021.
    In a journal entry dated February 2, 2022, the trial court denied
    appellant’s motion for a protective order and granted appellee’s motion to compel
    finding that the modules were not subject to any cognizable privilege under
    R.C. 2305.252. The court reasoned that the modules “are apparently prepared by a
    third-party vendor and are sold to numerous health care facilities and were not
    prepared or altered in any demonstrable way by University Hospitals so as to require
    the consideration of a privilege.” The court also found that there was no evidence
    the modules were used for any “remedial or investigative instructional purpose.”
    The court determined that
    UH has not met its burden to establish that the Relias learning
    modules, which already are in Plaintiff’s possession and were obtained
    from a third party, were created by, or substantially or exclusively for,
    a peer review committee meeting the requirements of R.C. 2305.25(E).
    Even if it had, UH has waived any such privilege by failing to raise it in
    a timely manner in the course of this litigation, and by otherwise
    disclosing its use of the training modules in its own publications and
    promotional materials.
    The court ordered appellant to produce the modules within seven days
    of the court’s journal entry.
    It is from this order that appellant filed this interlocutory appeal and
    raises the following assignment of error:
    The trial court incorrectly compelled UH to produce learning/training
    modules utilized by UH’s obstetric care providers as part of the
    hospital’s quality assurance process when those documents constituted
    privileged peer review material.
    Law and Analysis
    In its sole assignment of error, appellant argues that the trial court
    erred in compelling it to produce the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules because
    the modules were covered by peer review privilege.
    Civ.R. 26(B)(1) governs the scope of discovery and provides that
    parties may obtain discovery regarding “any nonprivileged matter * * *.” The party
    claiming privilege has the burden of establishing that the privilege applies to the
    requested information. Waldmann v. Waldmann, 
    48 Ohio St.2d 176
    , 178, 
    358 N.E.2d 521
     (1976).
    Generally,   a    discovery   dispute   is   reviewed   for   abuse   of
    discretion. Hance v. Cleveland Clinic, 
    2021-Ohio-1493
    , 
    172 N.E.3d 478
    , ¶ 16
    (8th Dist.), citing Med. Mut. of Ohio v. Schlotterer, 
    122 Ohio St.3d 181
    , 2009-Ohio-
    2496, 
    909 N.E.2d 1237
    . However, whether the information sought in discovery is
    confidential and privileged “is a question of law that is reviewed de novo.” Hance at
    
    id.
     Accordingly, we review de novo whether the peer review privilege applies to the
    modules in this case.
    Appellant contends that the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules
    were within the scope of its “quality assurance committee,” which used the modules
    to improve patient care. R.C. 2305.252 (A) states that proceedings and records
    “within the scope” of a peer review committee are not subject to discovery. To avail
    itself of the statutory privilege, the party asserting a peer review privilege must
    “establish the existence of a committee that meets that statutory definition of ‘peer
    review committee’ contained in R.C. 2305.25(E).” Smith v. Cleveland Clinic, 
    197 Ohio App.3d 524
    , 
    2011-Ohio-6648
    , 
    968 N.E.2d 41
    , ¶ 15 (8th Dist.). The party must
    then show that each of the documents it claims are privileged constitutes a “record
    within the scope of a peer review committee.” 
    Id.
     The party “must provide evidence
    such to the specific documents requested, not generalities regarding the types of
    documents used or contained in a peer-review committee’s records.” 
    Id.
    The privilege “is not a generalized cloak of secrecy over the entire peer
    review process.” 
    Id.
     The statutory peer review privilege “must be strictly construed
    against the party seeking to assert it and may be applied only to those circumstances
    specifically named in the statute.” 
    Id.
    Therefore, as it applies to this case, appellant has the burden of
    showing that (1) its quality assurance committee falls under the statutory definition
    of a peer review committee and (2) the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules were
    records that were within the scope of that committee.
    Appellant’s Quality Assurance Committee
    Under R.C. 2305.25(E)(1)(a), a “peer review committee” includes a
    “quality assurance committee” that “[c]onducts professional credentialling or
    quality review activities involving the competence of, professional conduct of, or
    quality of care provided by healthcare providers, including both individuals who
    provide health care and entities that provide health care.” R.C. 2305.25(E)(2)(c)
    provides that a peer review committee may include a “board or committee of a
    hospital when reviewing professional qualifications or activities of individual health
    care providers.”
    Appellant    submitted      the   affidavit   of   Nancy   Cossler,   M.D.
    (“Dr. Cossler”), Chief of Systems Quality for Obstetrics at University Hospitals and
    Vice Chair for Quality and Patient Safety for University Hospitals MacDonald
    Women’s Hospital, in support of its motion for a protective order. Dr. Cossler
    averred that she was a member of the quality assurance committee at UH and was
    personally involved, in her professional capacity, in obtaining and implementing the
    Relias modules for use as a quality measure and tool to use with obstetric care
    providers working on the labor, delivery, and postpartum units at UH. In pertinent
    part, Dr. Cossler stated the following:
    4. University Hospitals has a quality-assurance committee which
    meets as needed and as part of its regular business activities, and
    conducts quality-review activities involving the quality of care provided
    by its various care providers.
    7. In my capacity as Chief of Systems Quality for Obstetrics at
    University Hospitals, as well as the Vice-Chair for Quality and Patient
    Safety for University Hospitals MacDonald Women’s Hospital, and as
    a member of the quality-assurance committee at University Hospitals,
    I was personally involved in obtaining and implementing the Relias
    learning/training modules from Relias, a third-party company, for use
    on the labor and delivery and post-partum units at University
    Hospitals.
    8. The Relias learning/training modules are used solely as a tool by
    University Hospitals’ quality assurance committee to provide feedback
    on an individual clinician based on how the particular clinician
    answered certain prompts and questions that are asked in the modules.
    9. These module prompts differ from provider to provider depending
    on the answer the provider selects. In that regard, the modules provide
    a learning path which prompts the provider based upon the answers
    selected.
    10. The Relias learning/training modules were in effect at the time of
    Carly Triplett’s hospitalization at University Hospitals in April and May
    of 2020, and each of Carly Triplett’s obstetric care providers at
    University Hospitals completed the Relias learning/training modules
    at the quality-assurance committee’s direction, the results of which are
    then reviewed by members of the quality-assurance committee.
    Affidavit of Nancy Cossler, M.D. (Nov. 29, 2021).
    Appellee argues that Dr. Cossler’s affidavit is insufficient to show a
    quality assurance committee exists because the affidavit contains only conclusory
    allegations asserting that a qualifying committee exists, which are insufficient,
    absent further evidence, to establish that appellant has a peer review committee for
    purposes of R.C. 2305.25(E).
    Appellee cites Smith, 
    197 Ohio App.3d 524
    , 
    2011-Ohio-6648
    , 
    968 N.E.2d 41
    , to support his position. In Smith, the defendants-appellants sought a
    protective order after the plaintiffs-appellees sought to depose the chief medical
    officer of the hospital where their loved one died. The plaintiffs met with the chief
    medical officer on March 1, 2010, prior to their loved one’s death and surreptitiously
    recorded the conversation. Appellants submitted the affidavit of the chief medical
    officer in support of their contention that the information relayed to the decedent’s
    family during this meeting was protected from disclosure by the peer review
    privilege. According to the affidavit, the chief medical officer was not involved in the
    decedent’s care and any information he gleaned concerning the decedent’s care was
    from his participation as a committee member during a February 24, 2010 “Root
    Cause Analysis/Peer Review” meeting. Id. at ¶ 16.
    This court found that the appellants did not provide any evidence,
    except for the doctor’s affidavit, that the February 24, 2010 meeting took place, did
    not have a record of the committee’s written policies and procedures, and presented
    no independent proof that the February meeting was aimed at peer reviewing the
    decedent’s case. Id. at ¶ 17. Moreover, this court noted that the doctor’s statements
    to the family that the “root cause analysis” was not a “peer review” proceeding and
    that such proceedings had yet to be conducted as of his March 1, 2010 meeting with
    the family, directly contradicted what the doctor swore to in his affidavit. Id. at
    ¶ 19- 22.
    Smith is distinguishable from this case.        In Smith, the doctor’s
    statements to the family clearly conflicted with his affidavit regarding whether a root
    cause analysis/peer review meeting had taken place. Although there is some
    conflicting deposition testimony among witnesses in this case, there is not
    conflicting evidence about the existence of a peer review committee at UH.
    We find that Dr. Cossler’s affidavit is sufficient to show that appellant
    has a quality assurance committee, “which meets as needed and as part of its regular
    business activities, and conducts quality-review activities involving the quality of
    care provided by its various care providers.” The evidence appellant presented is
    sufficient to show that its quality assurance committee falls under the statutory
    definition of a peer review committee.
    Relias Obstetric Hemorrhage Modules
    Next, we consider whether the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules
    are within the scope of UH’s quality assurance committee.
    R.C. 2305.252 protects any documents that are maintained in the peer
    review committee’s records that were generated by an “original source” — i.e.,
    a source other than the peer review committee itself — and then produced or
    presented to a peer review committee. Cousino v. Mercy St. Vincent Med. Ctr.,
    
    2018-Ohio-1550
    , 
    111 N.E.3d 529
    , ¶ 24 (6th Dist.). Any “original source” documents
    must be obtained “from the original sources and cannot be obtained from the peer
    review committee’s proceedings or records.” R.C. 2305.252. The record reflects that
    appellee obtained the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules, as well as a list of UH
    employees that had completed the modules, via subpoena from Relias.
    “[A]ll documents within a peer review committee’s own records —
    regardless of the source — are absolutely immune from discovery in any civil action.”
    Cousino at ¶ 25; citing Cook v. Toledo Hosp., 
    169 Ohio App.3d 180
    , 2006-Ohio-
    5278, 
    862 N.E.2d 181
    , ¶ 31 (6th Dist.) (“R.C. 2305.252 manifests the legislature’s
    clear intent to provide a complete shield to the discovery of any information used in
    the course of a peer review committee’s proceedings.”); see also Bailey v.
    ManorCare of Mayfield Hts., 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 99798, 
    2013-Ohio-4927
    , ¶ 21
    (“The legislature’s clear intent [is] to provide a complete shield to the discovery of
    any information used in the course of a peer review committee’s proceedings.”).
    R.C. 2305.252 explicitly delineates one type of record within the scope
    of a peer review committee when it permits health care entities to refuse to answer
    discovery requests for “information, documents, and records otherwise available
    from original sources * * * produced or presented during proceedings of a peer
    review committee.” Bansal v. Mt. Carmel Health Sys., 10th Dist. Franklin
    No. 09AP-351, 
    2009-Ohio-6845
    , ¶ 16.        Based upon this provision, documents
    sought from a health care entity are peer review records if the health care entity
    proves that those documents were generated by an original source and that they
    were produced or presented to the peer review committee. 
    Id.
    The record reflects that appellant purchased four online modules
    from Relias: fetal assessment and monitoring, obstetric hemorrhage, hypertensive
    disorders of pregnancy, and shoulder dystocia. Dr. Cossler testified that the “online
    learning modules that were assigned to all providers and the relevant nurses to take
    on a rotating two-year basis.” (Cossler deposition p. 102). “We have four modules,
    two a year. We rotate them through a two-year cycle.” (Id. at p. 103).
    Dr. Cossler averred that the Relias modules were used solely as a tool
    by appellant’s quality assurance committee and each of Triplett’s obstetric care
    providers at University Hospitals completed the Relias modules at the quality
    assurance committee’s direction, the results of which are then reviewed by members
    of the quality assurance committee.
    Appellee contends that the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules are
    not covered by peer review privilege because they were widely accessible to medical
    staff at UH. Dr. Cossler identified two UH educators involved in the use of Relias
    learning modules: Cinnamin Ludwig, a nurse educator, and Celina Cunanan.
    (Id. at p. 104-105).    Dr. Cossler testified that Cunanan was involved in the
    implementation of the modules “to the extent of assuring that her folks all completed
    [them].” (Id. at p. 105-106). Cunanan testified that she is the division director of
    nurse midwifery, the system chief overseeing nurse midwifery, and UH’s chief
    diversity officer. (Cuananan deposition, p. 10). When asked if she was familiar with
    the Relias modules and if she had participated “in the training of nurses and nurse
    midwives” on the modules, Cunanan testified that “as an employee * * * I do modules
    myself and my nurse practitioners and nurse midwives are involved in that as well.”
    (Id. at p. 13). She testified, however, that she is not involved in training or evaluating
    her nurses on the modules. 
    Id.
    Dr. Lauren Bouchard, a resident involved in the delivery of Triplett’s
    baby, testified at deposition that she completed the obstetric hemorrhage modules
    as part of her orientation:
    It was one of our assignments during orientation, so when I started [at
    UH], so that would have been in approximately July of 2016.
    (Bouchard deposition, p. 12).
    Although the record shows that the Relias obstetric hemorrhage
    modules were accessible to UH medical staff, the modules were within the scope of
    the peer review committee and were therefore privileged. “Absent evidence that the
    requested documents were created by and/or exclusively for a peer review
    committee, or generated by an original source and produced or presented to a peer
    review committee, the party asserting the R.C. 2305.252 privilege has not met its
    burden.” Bansal, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 09AP-351, 
    2009-Ohio-6845
    , at ¶ 18.
    Dr. Cossler averred that, as a member of UH’s quality assurance committee, she was
    personally involved in obtaining and implementing the modules obtained from
    Relias, which were solely used as a tool by UH’s quality assurance committee to
    provide feedback to medical staff. The evidence presented is that the Relias obstetric
    hemorrhage modules were generated by an original source, Relias, for UH’s quality
    assurance committee to assess, train, and educate UH employees. We find that
    appellant has met its burden.
    Waiver
    Appellee claims that any privilege appellant claims is waived subject
    to R.C. 2305.252(A), which provides that “the information, documents, or records
    actually released cease to be privileged under this section.” Appellee claims that the
    obstetric hemorrhage modules were “released” when the modules were produced in
    response to a subpoena, when UH disclosed in a 2019 article that it uses the modules
    as training materials, through use of the modules in “multiple depositions,” and by
    filing the modules with the court, not under seal. The trial court concluded that
    appellant waived its right to assert its privilege by failing to timely raise it and by
    otherwise disclosing its use of the training modules in its own publications and
    promotional materials.
    R.C. 2305.252 provides:
    The release of any information, documents, or records that were
    produced or presented during proceedings of a peer review committee
    or created to document the proceedings does not affect the
    confidentiality of any other information, documents, or records
    produced or presented during those proceedings or created to
    document them. Only the information, documents, or records actually
    released cease to be privileged under this section.
    Appellant does not waive its privilege because Relias, the original
    source of the modules, responded to a subpoena propounded upon it by appellee.
    Appellant also does not waive its privilege by disclosing, in an article in a medical
    journal, that it uses the modules; appellee has not shown that appellant’s statement
    in the article that it uses the modules equates to a release of information, documents,
    or records. Appellee also has not shown that it was appellant’s “copy” of the Relias
    obstetric hemorrhage modules that was used during “multiple depositions.” Our
    review of the record shows that appellee was relying on his copy of the modules
    Relias sent pursuant to subpoena.
    We also do not find that appellant waives its privilege because
    appellee filed its copy of the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules with the trial
    court. Even if appellant had filed a copy of the Relias obstetric hemorrhage modules,
    “such a broad concept of waiver would negate the purpose of the peer review
    confidentiality statute.” Lowrey v. Fairfield Med. Ctr., 5th Dist. Fairfield No. 08
    CA 85, 
    2009-Ohio-4470
    , ¶ 40, citing Atkins v. Walker, 
    3 Ohio App.3d 427
    , 
    445 N.E.2d 1132
     (6th Dist.1981).
    Finally, appellee was in possession of the Relias obstetric hemorrhage
    modules pursuant to subpoena from the original source, Relias. On November 17,
    2021, appellee filed his motion to compel appellant to disclose its copy of the
    modules. Appellant moved for a protective order on November 29, 20211 and
    appellee has not argued that appellant’s motion was filed outside discovery
    deadlines imposed by the court. Therefore, appellant’s motion was timely filed.
    Accordingly, we conclude that the Relias obstetric hemorrhage
    modules are protected by the peer review privilege as outlined in R.C. 2305.252.
    Having concluded that the peer review privilege of R.C. 2305.252 applies to the
    instant case, we reverse the trial court’s rulings granting appellee’s motion to compel
    and denying appellant’s motion for protective order.
    The sole assignment of error is sustained.
    Judgment reversed and case remanded.
    It is ordered that appellant recover of said appellee costs herein taxed.
    The court finds there were reasonable grounds for this appeal.
    It is ordered that a special mandate be sent to the common pleas court to carry
    this judgment into execution.
    1  On November 23, 2021, the trial court granted UH’s motion to continue the trial
    date and trial was set for March 28, 2022; appellee has not argued that appellant’s motion
    for a protective order was filed outside the discovery deadline.
    A certified copy of this entry shall constitute the mandate pursuant to Rule 27
    of the Rules of Appellate Procedure.
    ______________________________
    CORNELIUS J. O’SULLIVAN, JR., JUDGE
    EILEEN A. GALLAGHER, J., CONCURS;
    FRANK DANIEL CELEBREZZE, III, P.J., DISSENTS
    FRANK DANIEL CELEBREZZE, III, P.J., DISSENTING:
    I respectfully dissent from the majority. Specifically, I would have
    found that appellant did not meet its burden in establishing that the Relias obstetric
    hemorrhage modules were protected by the peer review privilege pursuant to R.C.
    2305.252.
    I fully agree with the majority’s recitation of the standard of review.
    Whether discovery is confidential and privileged “is a question of law that is
    reviewed de novo.” Hance v. Cleveland Clinic, 
    2021-Ohio-1493
    , 
    172 N.E.3d 478
    ,
    ¶ 16 (8th Dist.). The peer review privilege is “strictly construed against the party
    seeking to assert it.” Smith v. Cleveland Clinic, 
    197 Ohio App.3d 524
    , 2011-Ohio-
    6648, 
    968 N.E.2d 41
    , ¶ 15 (8th Dist.). Further, “[i]f all materials viewed and utilized
    by review committees were deemed undiscoverable, a hospital could never be held
    accountable for any negligent act within the purview of the committee.” Huntsman
    v. Aultman Hosp., 5th Dist. Stark No. 2006 CA 00331, 
    2008-Ohio-2554
    , ¶ 47.
    As the majority correctly stated, to invoke the peer review privilege,
    appellant had the burden to (1) “establish the existence of a committee that meets
    that statutory definition of ‘peer review committee’ contained in R.C. 2305.25(E)”
    and (2) demonstrate that the documents under which the privilege is claimed
    constitute a “record within the scope of a peer review committee.” Smith at ¶ 15.
    In support of both prongs, appellant introduced an affidavit authored
    by Nancy Cossler, M.D. (“Dr. Cossler”), Chief of Systems Quality for Obstetrics at
    University Hospitals and Vice Chair for Quality and Patient Safety for University
    Hospitals MacDonald Women’s Hospital.           Appellant exclusively relies on the
    contents of this affidavit in asserting that the peer review privilege applies to the
    learning modules.
    In Dr. Cossler’s affidavit, she avers that
    4. University Hospitals has a quality-assurance committee which
    meets as needed and as part of its regular business activities, and
    conducts quality-review activities involving the quality of care provided
    by its various care providers.
    5. University Hospitals quality-assurance committee is a quality-
    assurance committee as statutorily defined by R.C. 2305.25(E).
    I would hold that Dr. Cossler’s affidavit was insufficient from an
    evidentiary perspective. This court has previously recognized that “Ohio courts have
    been adamant that merely labelling a committee or document ‘peer review’ is
    insufficient to meet the burden of proving that the privilege applies to the requested
    information.” Smith at ¶ 23. Dr. Cossler’s affidavit does exactly this. Regarding the
    first prong, Dr. Cossler merely asserts the existence of a peer review committee and
    states that the committee meets the statutory definition. This is conclusory and
    further, because it was authored by an employee of appellant, it is also self-serving.
    In Smith, this court suggested that appellants could have introduced
    the peer review committee’s “written policies and procedures, * * * its members, its
    scope of authority or any other proof that the proceedings were aimed at quality of
    care or disciplinary issues.” Id. at ¶ 17. None of that possibly supportive evidence
    was introduced here, either. In the instant matter, appellant relies solely on Dr.
    Cossler’s affidavit and fails to include any independent evidence establishing the
    existence of a peer review committee.
    Likewise, the same analysis is applicable to the second prong. Dr.
    Cossler’s affidavit is the only evidence offered to support that the learning modules
    were within the scope of a peer review committee. Relating to this prong, the
    affidavit avers:
    8. The Relias learning/training modules are used solely as a tool by
    University Hospitals’ quality assurance committee to provide feedback
    on an individual clinician * * *
    11. The Relias training modules are, therefore, not discoverable in this
    case and are not admissible in evidence at trial as they are privileged
    pursuant to R.C. 2305.25, 2305.253, and 2305.24.
    These averments merely label the modules as “quality assurance”
    tools, which is insufficient to establish that the modules were indeed within the
    scope of the peer review committee.       This is especially so when considering
    additional evidence in the record that the modules were used for training and
    administered during new-hire orientations.
    Given the above, I would have found that appellant did not meet the
    evidentiary burden necessary to establish that the peer review privilege applies. I
    therefore respectfully dissent.