State v. Verbanac , 2022 Ohio 3743 ( 2022 )


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  • [Cite as State v. Verbanac, 
    2022-Ohio-3743
    .]
    COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
    EIGHTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    COUNTY OF CUYAHOGA
    STATE OF OHIO,                                       :
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                 :
    No. 111427
    v.                                  :
    BRUNO J. VERBANAC,                                   :
    Defendant-Appellant.                :
    JOURNAL ENTRY AND OPINION
    JUDGMENT: VACATED AND REMANDED
    RELEASED AND JOURNALIZED: October 20, 2022
    Criminal Appeal from the Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas
    Case No. CR-20-652208-A
    Appearances:
    Michael C. O’Malley, Cuyahoga County Prosecuting
    Attorney, and Katherine Mullin, Assistant Prosecuting
    Attorney, for appellee.
    Patituce & Associates, L.L.C., Megan M. Patituce, and
    Joseph C. Patituce, for appellant.
    FRANK DANIEL CELEBREZZE, III, P.J.:
    Appellant Bruno J. Verbanac (“Verbanac”) brings this interlocutory
    appeal challenging the trial court’s order compelling his former attorney, Michael J.
    Goldberg (“Goldberg”), to testify as a witness for appellee state of Ohio (“state”)
    during Verbanac’s trial. After a thorough review of the facts and law, we vacate the
    order compelling Goldberg’s testimony and remand for the trial court to issue a new
    order consistent with this opinion.
    I. Facts and Procedural History
    On August 10, 2020, in Cuyahoga C.P. No. CR-20-652208, a Cuyahoga
    County Grand Jury returned an eight-count indictment, charging Verbanac with
    attempted rape, two counts of kidnapping, two counts of gross sexual imposition,
    two counts of public indecency, and importuning.          Goldberg filed a notice of
    appearance indicating that he was representing Verbanac in the case. All of the
    charges pertain to a single victim, M.M., whose date of birth is June 9, 2004.
    The record before us indicates that Verbanac met with Goldberg on
    August 12, 2020, at Goldberg’s office. Verbanac and Goldberg had a one-on-one
    conversation about Verbanac’s pending charges, and then Verbanac invited his
    then-fiancée, L.M. into the room. At the time, M.M.’s mother, L.M. was in a
    relationship with Verbanac and allegedly planned to support Verbanac through the
    charges filed against him.
    During a later pretrial with the court, Goldberg expressed concerns
    regarding L.M.’s potential trial testimony, citing the three-way meeting that he had
    with Verbanac and L.M. on August 12, 2020, as the source of his concern. To
    properly address the concern, the trial court ordered the parties to brief the issue.
    Verbanac timely filed a motion in limine seeking to limit L.M.’s
    testimony, arguing that the three-way conversation between Goldberg, Verbanac,
    and L.M. on August 12, 2020, was protected by the attorney-client privilege. In
    support of this contention, Verbanac noted that at the time of the meeting, L.M. was
    Verbanac’s fiancée and was present for the purposes of providing support to
    Verbanac. She had represented to Goldberg that she intended to remain engaged to
    Verbanac despite the fact that her minor child was the alleged victim of Verbanac’s
    charges. Finally, Verbanac alleged that L.M. was also seeking Goldberg’s counsel for
    matters relating to her shared child1 with Verbanac and was thus a potential client
    of Goldberg’s as well.
    The state opposed the motion in limine arguing that L.M. was a third-
    party to the conversation and that the attorney-client privilege did not extend to
    situations where third parties are present. The state also noted that L.M. could not
    have been a prospective client because her interests would have been adverse to
    Verbanac’s due to their shared child and the nature of the pending charges.
    The court denied Verbanac’s motion in limine. In the journal entry
    denying the motion, the court reasoned:
    The Supreme Court of Ohio has held that “R.C. 2317.02(A) provides the
    exclusive means by which privileged communications directly between
    an attorney and a client can be waived.” State v. McDermott, 
    72 Ohio St.3d 570
    , 574, 
    651 N.E.2d 985
     (1995). R.C. 2317.02 provides:
    The following persons shall not testify in certain respects:
    (A)(1) An attorney, concerning a communication made to the
    attorney by a client in that relation or concerning the
    attorney’s advice to a client, except that the attorney may
    testify by express consent of the client or, if the client is
    1Verbanac is not the father of M.M. However, L.M. and Verbanac do share a child,
    M.V., who was five years old in 2021.
    deceased, by the express consent of the surviving spouse or
    the executor or administrator of the estate of the deceased
    client.
    However, if the client voluntarily reveals the substance of attorney-
    client communications in a nonprivileged context or is deemed by
    section 2151.421 of the Revised Code to have waived any testimonial
    privilege under this division, the attorney may be compelled to testify
    on the same subject.
    Generally, communications made in the presence of a third party who
    is not an agent of either the client or attorney are not privileged. See
    Foley v. Poschke, 
    137 Ohio St. 593
    , 595, 31 117842898 _ I N.E.2d 845
    (1941). A client’s voluntary disclosure of confidential communications
    is inconsistent with the assertion of privilege; thus, voluntary
    disclosure of privileged communications to a third party waives the
    claim of privilege with regard to communications on the same subject
    matter. See v. Haugh, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 101380, 2014-Ohio-
    5290, ¶ 24. The attorney-client privilege does not prevent a third
    person who has overheard a conversation between a lawyer and her
    client, or who has been told about privileged matters, from testifying or
    being compelled to testify. State v. Whitaker, 
    1998 Ohio App. LEXIS 3838
    , 6 (12th Dist. 1998), see generally McDermott, supra.
    The court finds defendant’s arguments unpersuasive. The record does
    not establish that [L.M.] attended the meeting for the purpose of
    potentially forming an attorney-client relationship. Although she was
    then the fiancée of defendant, she is also the mother of the alleged
    victim. Even if [L.M.] attended the meeting to encourage and support
    defendant, she is a third party, who overheard and participated in
    communications between defendant and counsel, who may lawfully
    testify, or be compelled to testify, about the conversation she overheard
    and participated in. Furthermore, there is no evidence that [L.M.]
    attended the meeting for the secret purpose of learning what defendant
    would reveal to his counsel. In fact, she attended the meeting at
    defendant’s invitation. Thus, defendant waived his claim of attorney-
    client privilege as to the discussions with his counsel in [L.M.’s]
    presence when he invited her, a third party who is not an agent of either
    defendant or his counsel, to the meeting and voluntarily disclosed
    confidential communications. R.C. 2317.02(A)(1).
    Therefore, for the foregoing reasons, defendant’s motion in limine to
    limit testimony of [L.M.] is hereby denied.
    Soon thereafter, attorney Hayden Capace (“Capace”) moved for
    substitution of counsel, notifying the court that he was replacing Goldberg in the
    representation of Verbanac. Discovery continued, and a trial date was set for April 4,
    2022.
    Prior to trial, the state subpoenaed Goldberg, seeking his testimony at
    trial. On April 4, 2022, the date that trial was to commence, the state requested that
    the trial court determine what matters Goldberg could testify to.             The state
    explained:
    [STATE]: Your Honor, if you recall, there was an issue — and the
    reason why Mr. Capace was retained was because Mr. Goldberg had
    [L.M.] in a meeting — I’m sorry. The defendant had [L.M.] in a meeting
    with Mr. Goldberg.
    THE COURT: Yes.
    [STATE]: And so the argument is that the privilege was waived, your
    Honor. So I would be calling Mr. Goldberg in to testify about that
    limited meeting and what was discussed at that meeting.
    The court then addressed another evidentiary matter and adjourned
    for the morning. Upon returning in the afternoon, the issue of Goldberg’s testimony
    was again discussed.
    [CAPACE]: * * * After talking with Mr. Goldberg, [Verbanac’s] former
    attorney, it seems as the though Court is — or the prosecution is going
    to be asking him to reveal information pertinent to his representation.
    We feel as though that’s in violation of Rule 1.6 of the
    Professional Code of Conduct. Mr. Goldberg agrees with me. He’s
    consulted his own attorney on the matter. And we are all in agreement
    that he should not be forced to testify against his former client and
    statements made between the two of them.
    If [L.M.] wants to testify to what she heard in there, well, that’s
    fine by us because she’s not beholden to 1.6.
    The only way to have him testify would be, for instance, to
    prevent future harm or future crime. I don’t think those are applicable.
    Or if you as a judge[,] court order it.
    And so if you would like to, your Honor, you’re more than
    welcome to order it, but that’s in your discretion.
    THE COURT: Thank you. * * *
    [THE STATE]: Yes, your Honor. I currently have our appellate unit
    doing research on this very issue, but we would be asking this Court to
    order Mr. Goldberg to testify as you have already made the ruling that
    there was the waiver of the attorney-client privilege in this meeting
    based upon having [L.M.] in the meeting. And you had ruled on that
    earlier in the motions in limine, your Honor.
    THE COURT: Yes. May I issue such an order verbally or must it be
    reduced to writing?
    [THE STATE]: That I’m not sure, your Honor. I have to check with our
    appellate unit.
    [CAPACE]: Your Honor, I do just want to point out in Rule 1.6 — I’m
    going to read it very quickly.
    THE COURT: Please do.
    [CAPACE]: A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the
    representation of a client including information protected by the
    attorney-client privilege under the applicable law.
    That to me indicates that it is not just privileged information that
    is protected. It’s all information or at least more information than just
    protected information.
    ***
    THE COURT: Back on the record, please. It’s the Court’s intention to
    instruct Mr. Goldberg when he appears before the Court that consistent
    with the Court’s earlier ruling and Rule 1.6 of the Ohio Rules of
    Professional Conduct and for good cause shown, Attorney Goldberg is
    — will hereby be ordered to testify in this case to any statements made
    in his presence at the meeting in his office on August 12, 2020, by any
    person.
    The defense objection is noted and overruled.
    Capace requested an opportunity to commence an interlocutory
    appeal against that ruling, which the trial court allowed. Trial did not go forward,
    and the trial court issued a journal entry from which Verbanac now appeals. The
    journal entry reads, in pertinent part:
    Consistent with the court’s earlier rulings and O. Rules Prof. Cond. 1.6,
    and for good cause shown, Atty. Michael Goldberg is hereby ordered to
    testify in this case as to any statements made in his presence at the
    meeting in his office on August 12, 2020 by any person, including his
    client.
    This is a final appealable order.
    Defendant is hereby granted seven days leave, that is, by April 11, 2022,
    to file an interlocutory appeal.
    The instant appeal followed. Verbanac assigns a single error for our
    review.
    The trial court erred in issuing an order compelling Attorney Goldberg
    to testify regarding communications with his client.
    II. Law and Analysis
    A. Jurisdiction
    Before proceeding to the merits of this matter, we must first address
    whether the trial court’s order compelling Goldberg to testify is a final, appealable
    order. The state raised and addressed the issue of jurisdiction in their brief, and sua
    sponte, this court ordered Verbanac to brief the issue of jurisdiction.
    Appellate courts are vested with jurisdiction to “review and affirm,
    modify, or reverse judgments or final orders of the courts inferior * * *.” Ohio
    Constitution, Article IV, Section 3(B)(2). “If an order is not final and appealable,
    then an appellate court has no jurisdiction to review the matter and the appeal must
    be dismissed.” Assn. of Cleveland Firefighters, #93 v. Campbell, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga
    No. 84148, 
    2005-Ohio-1841
    , ¶ 6.
    Despite the trial court’s journal entry plainly stating that it is a final,
    appealable order, we note that “the mere incantation of the required language does
    not turn an otherwise non-final order into a final appealable order.” Noble v.
    Colwell, 
    44 Ohio St.3d 92
    , 96, 
    540 N.E.2d 1381
     (1989). We therefore examine the
    effect of the order to determine if this is a final, appealable order.
    A “provisional remedy” is defined as “a proceeding ancillary to an
    action, including, but not limited to * * * discovery of privileged matter.” R.C.
    2505.02(A)(3).     Under R.C. 2505.02(B)(4), an order that grants or denies a
    provisional remedy is a final, appealable order if:         (a) “[t]he order in effect
    determines the action with respect to the provisional remedy and prevents a
    judgment in the action in favor of the appealing party with respect to the provisional
    remedy,” and (b) “[t]he appealing party would not be afforded a meaningful or
    effective remedy by an appeal following final judgment as to all proceedings, issues,
    claims, and parties in the action.”
    We find that R.C. 2505.02(B)(4)(a) is satisfied because the trial court’s
    order unequivocally compels Goldberg to testify, which constitutes a final
    determination by the trial court as to whether Goldberg’s testimony is protected by
    privilege.
    R.C. 2505.02(B)(4)(b) is also satisfied. The attorney-client privilege
    plainly falls within the purview of the “privileged matter” that R.C. 2505.02(A)(3)(b)
    contemplates. Without belaboring the point, “[p]rivilege is the cornerstone upon
    which the attorney-client relationship is founded.” (Emphasis added.) H & D Steel
    Serv., Inc. v. Weston, Hurd, Fallon, Paisley & Howley, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No.
    72758, 
    1998 Ohio App. LEXIS 3422
    , 6 (July 23, 1998). Further, the testimonial
    attorney-client privilege is codified in R.C. 2317.02(A) in a section titled
    “[p]rivileged communications.”
    Even though we are satisfied that R.C. 2505.02(B)(4) properly affords
    this court jurisdiction to hear this matter, we are also persuaded by existing caselaw.
    In Burnham v. Cleveland Clinic, 
    151 Ohio St.3d 356
    , 
    2016-Ohio-8000
    , 
    89 N.E.3d 536
    , the Ohio Supreme Court unequivocally fashioned a bright-line rule that “[a]n
    order compelling the production of materials alleged to be protected by the attorney-
    client privilege is a final, appealable order under R.C. 2505.02(B)(4).” Id. at ¶ 30.
    The state argues that the instant matter is distinguishable because Burnham
    explicitly applies to the “production of materials” and not “compelled testimony.”
    We disagree. The Ohio Supreme Court reasoned that “[p]rejudice would be inherent
    in violating the confidentiality guaranteed by the attorney-client privilege, and
    therefore, an appeal after final judgment would not provide an adequate remedy.”
    Id.; see also Summit Park Apts., LLC v. Great Lakes Reinsurance (UK), PLC, 2016-
    Ohio-1514, 
    49 N.E.3d 363
    , ¶ 11 (10th Dist.); Amer Cunningham Co., L.P.A. v.
    Cardiothoracic & Vascular Surgery of Akron, 9th Dist. Summit No. 20899, 2002-
    Ohio-3986, ¶ 11. The same concern exists here. Goldberg’s testimony regarding
    matters protected by the attorney-client privilege cannot be retracted or withdrawn
    in a meaningful way at the close of the case.
    Burnham also requires that an order raise a colorable claim that the
    attorney-client privilege is implicated. Burnham at ¶ 29. In the instant matter, the
    trial court issued an order requiring Goldberg to testify as a witness for the state
    against his former client, Verbanac, as to “any statements made in his presence at
    the meeting in his office on August 12, 2020 by any person, including his client.”
    This order does not properly distinguish the meeting where just Verbanac and
    Goldberg met from the meeting between Goldberg, Verbanac, and L.M. The trial
    court, in ruling on Verbanac’s motion in limine, already determined that the latter
    meeting constituted a waiver of the attorney-client privilege, and the ruling on the
    motion in limine is not before us in this appeal. However, there is nothing in the
    record before us indicating that the attorney-client privilege was waived with respect
    to the conversation between just Goldberg and Verbanac.            Because the order
    compelling Goldberg does not properly distinguish between these two meetings,
    both occurring on August 12, 2020, a potential violation of the attorney-client
    privilege is implicated inasmuch as it compels testimony from an attorney
    pertaining to conversations between the attorney and his client.
    We therefore conclude that the trial court’s April 4, 2022 journal entry
    ordering Goldberg to testify constituted a final, appealable order.
    B. The Attorney-Client Privilege
    ‘“The attorney-client privilege is one of the oldest recognized
    privileges for confidential communications.’” Squire, Sanders & Dempsey, L.L.P. v.
    Givaudan Flavors Corp., 
    127 Ohio St.3d 161
    , 
    2010-Ohio-4469
    , 
    937 N.E.2d 533
    , ¶ 16,
    quoting Swidler & Berlin v. United States, 
    524 U.S. 399
    , 403, 
    118 S.Ct. 2081
    , 
    141 L.Ed.2d 379
     (1998).      The attorney-client privilege encourages full and frank
    communication between attorneys and their clients in recognition of the fact that
    sound legal advice and advocacy depends upon the lawyer being fully informed by
    their client. 
    Id.,
     citing Upjohn Co. v. United States, 
    449 U.S. 383
    , 389, 
    101 S.Ct. 677
    ,
    
    66 L.Ed.2d 584
     (1981); Cargotec, Inc. v. Westchester Fire Ins. Co., 
    155 Ohio App.3d 653
    , 
    2003-Ohio-7257
    , 
    802 N.E.2d 732
    , ¶ 7 (6th Dist.).             Ordinarily, whether
    information is confidential or privileged from disclosure is a question of law that
    must be reviewed de novo. Med. Mut. of Ohio v. Schlotterer, 
    122 Ohio St.3d 181
    ,
    
    2009-Ohio-2496
    , 
    909 N.E.2d 1237
    , ¶ 13, citing Castlebrook, Ltd. v. Dayton
    Properties Ltd. Partnership, 
    78 Ohio App.3d 340
    , 346, 
    604 N.E.2d 808
     (2d
    Dist.1992).
    In the instant matter, Verbanac asks us to review the order
    compelling Goldberg to testify. Orders compelling testimony are reviewed for an
    abuse of discretion. Ohio Motor Vehicle Dealers Bd. v. Remlinger, 
    8 Ohio St.3d 26
    ,
    27, 
    457 N.E.2d 309
     (1983). A trial court abuses its discretion only if its decision is
    unreasonable, arbitrary, or unconscionable. State ex rel. DiFranco v. S. Euclid, 
    144 Ohio St.3d 571
    , 
    2015-Ohio-4915
    , 
    45 N.E.3d 987
    , ¶ 13; Blakemore v. Blakemore, 
    5 Ohio St.3d 217
    , 219, 
    450 N.E.2d 1140
     (1983).
    R.C. 2317.02(A)(1) codifies the attorney-client privilege as it relates to
    testimony, stating that
    [t]he following persons shall not testify in certain respects:
    An attorney, concerning a communication made to the attorney by a
    client in that relation or concerning the attorney’s advice to a client,
    except that the attorney may testify by express consent of the client
    * * *.
    However, if the client voluntarily reveals the substance of attorney-
    client communications in a nonprivileged context * * *, the attorney
    may be compelled to testify on the same subject.
    R.C. 2317.02(A) provides “the exclusive means by which privileged
    communications directly between an attorney and a client can be waived.” State v.
    McDermott, 
    72 Ohio St.3d 570
    , 574, 
    651 N.E.2d 985
     (1995). However, at the time
    McDermott was decided, R.C. 2317.02(A)(1) used the verbiage “if the client
    voluntarily testifies.” The text was amended in 2012 via H.B. No. 461 to the current
    iteration, which replaces “if the client voluntarily testifies” with “if the client
    voluntarily reveals the substance of attorney-client communications in a
    nonprivileged context.” 2011 Am.Sub.H.B. No. 461. In 2006, the Supreme Court
    reaffirmed McDermott’s holding, declining to add a judicially created waiver of the
    attorney-client privilege and maintained that the statute dictates the only situations
    where waiver applies. Jackson v. Greger, 
    110 Ohio St.3d 488
    , 
    2006-Ohio-4968
    , 
    854 N.E.2d 487
    , ¶ 12.
    Recognizing that the Ohio Supreme Court is reluctant to extend
    waivers of the attorney-client privilege beyond those delineated by the General
    Assembly, we find, consistent with McDermott, that the two exclusive means by
    which privileged communications can be waived are (1) express consent of the
    client; and (2) when the client voluntarily reveals the substance of the attorney-
    client communications in a nonprivileged context. R.C. 2317.02(A)(1).
    C. August 12, 2020 Conversations
    We first address Goldberg’s contention that the trial court erred in
    ordering him to testify as to the contents of the conversation between Goldberg,
    Verbanac, and L.M. on August 12, 2020. In response to Goldberg’s motion in limine,
    the trial court determined that Verbanac voluntarily waived the attorney-client
    privilege in allowing L.M., a third party, to participate in a conversation between
    Verbanac and Goldberg, his attorney.      Verbanac argues that even though the
    attorney-client privilege was waived for this particular conversation, Goldberg
    should not be compelled to testify.
    Verbanac directs us to two cases where our sister districts found that
    an attorney’s testimony is not necessary if it can be elicited through other means.
    State v. Ponce, 
    2012-Ohio-4572
    , 
    977 N.E.2d 1062
    , ¶ 23 (7th Dist.); Rock v. Sanislo,
    9th Dist. Medina No. 09CA0031-M, 
    2009-Ohio-6913
    , ¶ 9. Particularly, Verbanac
    relies on the statement of law that “[i]f the evidence that is to be offered by an
    opposing attorney’s testimony ‘can be elicited through other means, then the
    attorney is not a necessary witness.’” Ponce at ¶ 23, quoting State v. Johnson, 
    197 Ohio App.3d 631
    , 
    2011-Ohio-6809
    , 
    968 N.E.2d 541
    , ¶ 15 (6th Dist.), citing Sanislo
    at ¶ 9.
    Under these cases, Verbanac argues that Goldberg need not testify
    because L.M. is already going to testify as to the contents of the three-way
    conversation and Goldberg is therefore not a necessary witness because his
    testimony will not differ from L.M.’s testimony. However, this proposition of law
    applies in the narrow context where an attorney is facing disqualification because
    the attorney is a necessary witness to a case. Because disqualification is typically
    disfavored, courts will attempt to avoid the situation by weighing whether the
    necessary information that the attorney knows can be obtained from a different
    witness. See Akron v. Carter, 
    190 Ohio App.3d 420
    , 
    2010-Ohio-5462
    , 
    942 N.E.2d 409
    , ¶ 19 (9th Dist.); Sanislo at 
    id.
     We find this situation wholly inapplicable to the
    instant matter and decline to extend this line of cases to situations where attorneys
    are compelled to testify outside of the context of disqualification cases.
    Verbanac also argues that Goldberg cannot be compelled to testify as
    to the contents of the three-way conservation because his testimony may include
    statements by Verbanac and L.M. that constitute inadmissible hearsay.             This
    argument is premature and not properly before us. Furthermore, we note that the
    admission or exclusion of evidence, including whether it is inadmissible hearsay, is
    left to the broad discretion of the trial court. State v. Sage, 
    31 Ohio St.3d 173
    , 180,
    
    510 N.E.2d 343
     (1987); State v. Smith, 
    34 Ohio App.3d 180
    , 190, 
    517 N.E.2d 933
    (5th Dist.1986). To the extent this issue exists, the trial court is competent to make
    such rulings at trial.
    R.C. 2317.02(A)(1) clearly states that “if the client voluntarily reveals
    the substance of attorney-client communications in a nonprivileged context * * *,
    the attorney may be compelled to testify on the same subject.” Verbanac does not
    dispute the trial court’s holding that the conversation between Goldberg, Verbanac,
    and L.M. squarely constituted a voluntary waiver of the attorney-client privilege
    with respect to that conversation only. R.C. 2317.02(A)(1) plainly contemplates that
    where the privilege is waived, the attorney “may be compelled to testify.” Verbanac
    has not cited any authority to the contrary. We therefore find that the trial court did
    not err in compelling Goldberg to testify regarding the contents of the conversation
    between Goldberg, Verbanac, and L.M. on August 12, 2020, where the trial court
    already determined that the attorney-client privilege was waived.
    Applying the above analysis, Goldberg may not be compelled to testify
    as to the contents of the conversation between himself and Verbanac, unless one of
    the two waivers in R.C. 2317.02(A)(1) applies. The record before us does not contain
    any evidence indicating that Verbanac gave express consent to waive the attorney-
    client privilege or voluntarily revealed the substance of his one-on-one
    communications with Goldberg on August 12, 2020. Further, the state suggests that
    it did not intend to question Goldberg on any conversations occurring solely
    between Goldberg and Verbanac. Nonetheless, the trial court’s order compels
    Goldberg to testify as to “any statement” by “any person,” occurring on August 12,
    2020, and this is error because it includes the conversation between Goldberg and
    Verbanac where the record does not indicate that the attorney-client privilege was
    waived.
    D. Prof.Cond.R. 1.6
    Finally, we address Goldberg’s contention that his compelled
    testimony will cause him to violate Prof.Cond.R. 1.6, which reads, in pertinent part:
    A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the representation of
    a client, including information protected by the attorney-client
    privilege under applicable law, unless the client gives informed consent
    or the disclosure is permitted by division (b) or required by division (d)
    of this rule.
    Prof.Cond.R. 1.6(b)(6) authorizes an attorney to reveal information
    relating to their representation of a client, “including information protected by the
    attorney-client privilege” to the extent the lawyer reasonably believes necessary “to
    comply with other law or a court order.” Comment 3 to Prof.Cond.R. 1.6 suggests
    that “[t]he rule of client-lawyer confidentiality applies in situations other than those
    where evidence is sought from the lawyer through compulsion of law.” Disciplinary
    Counsel v. Shimko, 
    157 Ohio St.3d 58
    , 
    2019-Ohio-2881
    , 
    131 N.E.3d 52
    , ¶ 36.
    Verbanac invites us to consider that Prof.Cond.R. 1.6(b)(6) uses the
    term may in suggesting that “an attorney may reveal information * * * if complying
    with a court order.” (Emphasis added.) Verbanac argues that the use of “may”
    leaves the discretion with the attorney rather than the court. However, Verbanac
    does not point to any case law or sources of authority that support this notion, and
    therefore, we decline to address it.
    We are unpersuaded by Verbanac’s arguments pertaining to
    Prof.Cond.R. 1.6. Goldberg’s testimony is compelled by court order, which is
    permissible under Prof.Cond.R. 1.6(b)(6).
    III. Conclusion
    We find that the trial court erred to the extent that the order
    compelling Goldberg’s testimony was overly broad and did not specifically limit
    Goldberg’s testimony to the particular conversation where the attorney-client
    privilege had been waived.
    We therefore vacate the order compelling Goldberg to testify with
    instructions to issue a new order consistent with this decision.
    It is ordered that appellant recover of appellee costs herein taxed.
    The court finds there were reasonable grounds for this appeal.
    It is ordered that a special mandate issue out of this court directing the
    common pleas court to carry this judgment into execution.
    A certified copy of this entry shall constitute the mandate pursuant to Rule 27
    of the Rules of Appellate Procedure.
    _________________________________________
    FRANK DANIEL CELEBREZZE, III, PRESIDING JUDGE
    MICHELLE J. SHEEHAN, J., and
    LISA B. FORBES, J., CONCUR