United States v. John Wysinger , 683 F.3d 784 ( 2012 )


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  •                           In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    No. 10-3894
    U NITED STATES OF A MERICA,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    v.
    JOHN W YSINGER,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Illinois.
    No. 09-CR-30159-MJR—Michael J. Reagan, Judge.
    A RGUED S EPTEMBER 8, 2011—D ECIDED JUNE 22, 2012
    Before M ANION, R OVNER and T INDER, Circuit Judges.
    R OVNER, Circuit Judge. A jury convicted John Wysinger
    on one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess
    with intent to distribute cocaine, in violation of 21 U.S.C.
    §§ 841(a)(1), 846 and 851; and one count of aiding and
    abetting possession with intent to distribute cocaine,
    in violation of 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1) and 851, and 18
    U.S.C. § 2. At trial, the jury twice viewed a video
    of Wysinger’s interrogation by an agent of the Drug
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    Enforcement Agency (“DEA”). Wysinger challenged the
    admission of the video on the grounds that the Miranda
    warning was inadequate and misleading, and that the
    agent continued to interrogate him after he clearly and
    unequivocally invoked his right to counsel. On ap-
    peal, he again challenges the admission of the video.
    We agree that the video should have been suppressed
    and that the error was not harmless. Accordingly,
    we vacate Wysinger’s conviction and remand for
    further proceedings.
    I.
    Wysinger came to the attention of the DEA as the result
    of an investigation into a drug trafficking operation
    between East St. Louis, Illinois, and Chicago. The investiga-
    tion began when a confidential informant told the DEA
    that Sebastion Robinson, an East St. Louis resident, was
    distributing drugs. The DEA began to surveil Robinson’s
    residence. On December 15, 2008, agents followed two
    vans leaving Robinson’s residence. At the direction of the
    DEA, local police officers stopped the vans. One of the
    vans was driven by Tryd Wysinger, John Wysinger’s
    brother.1 The agents seized approximately $54,000
    in cash from a small backpack found in the van. Other
    1
    For the sake of clarity, we will refer to the defendant as
    “Wysinger” and to his brother as “Tryd.” At trial, Wysinger
    challenged DEA Special Agent Mike Rehg’s identification of
    his voice on various phone calls involving a person named
    “John” or “Cool.” When discussing the challenged phone
    calls, we will use those names.
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    passengers in the van included Rajdel Laurence, a
    woman and a child. The adult passengers in the van
    claimed ignorance about the ownership of the money
    and how it came to be in the van. Within the next ten
    days, a person purporting to be John Wysinger left a
    telephone message for DEA Special Agent Mike Rehg
    regarding the $54,000. Agent Rehg returned the call after
    the holidays and recorded the conversation. A person
    answering to the name “John” told Agent Rehg that he
    placed the money in the van and that none of the occu-
    pants knew it was there. He explained that he bor-
    rowed $45,000 from his boss and that he and his fiancée
    contributed $10,000 more. The money was to be used to
    rehab his mother’s house. John identified the other oc-
    cupants of the van as his brother (Tryd), his cousin
    (Rajdel Laurence), his grandmother and his son. He told
    the agent that he did not want them to know that the
    money was in the van, and planned to tell his mother to
    retrieve the money once the van arrived at her home
    in Texas. John and Agent Rehg briefly discussed what
    would happen next to the money before the call ended.
    After a confidential informant purchased crack cocaine
    from Sebastion Robinson in February 2009, law enforce-
    ment officials arrested Robinson and searched his home.
    The DEA recovered $35,000 in cash, two firearms, and
    small amounts of cocaine and marijuana from Robinson’s
    home. Robinson subsequently agreed to cooperate with
    the DEA in its investigation. Robinson told Agent
    Rehg that he obtained cocaine from Wysinger (whom
    Robinson knew by the nickname “Cool”) in Chicago, sold
    it in the East St. Louis area, and then paid Wysinger
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    from the proceeds. Robinson said that he and Keith
    Holmes, another East St. Louis dealer, each owed
    Wysinger approximately $21,000 and that the money
    seized from Robinson’s home belonged to Wysinger.
    After providing Robinson with recording equipment,
    Agent Rehg asked Robinson to arrange a meeting with
    Holmes to deliver $42,000 to Dempsey Ivery, a courier
    believed to be working for Wysinger. Law enforce-
    ment officers then stopped the car on the way to the
    meeting and seized the money.
    After these large seizures of cash by police officers,
    contact among Wysinger, Robinson, Holmes and other
    participants slowed for several months as they be-
    came concerned about the apparent investigation. In
    May 2009, the group began talking again. Robinson
    met with Tryd and determined that Wysinger was ready
    to arrange another cocaine delivery to the East St. Louis
    area. On May 26, 2009, the DEA asked Robinson to
    call Wysinger to see if any cocaine was available. The
    DEA recorded the call. Agent Rehg interpreted the
    cryptic conversation as Wysinger telling Robinson that
    he was trying to obtain some cocaine and would let
    Robinson know when he was able to do so. Robinson
    confirmed that interpretation in his own testimony at
    trial. The next day, Robinson told Agent Rehg that
    Wysinger and Tryd had contacted him to report that a
    shipment was on its way to East St. Louis and would
    be there within hours. After establishing surveillance
    at Robinson’s home, officers were able to identify a van
    occupied by Tryd and an unidentified woman. Local
    officers stopped the van and discovered a kilogram of
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    cocaine. Tryd and the woman were taken to the police
    station for questioning. Two agents then met with Robin-
    son so that any subsequent calls with Wysinger could
    be recorded.
    The agents recorded three short calls between Robinson
    and Wysinger on May 27, each interpreted by Agent
    Rehg and Robinson at trial. In the first call, Wysinger
    asked if Robinson had received the shipment and Robin-
    son said he had not. Wysinger also asked how much
    money Robinson would be giving Tryd on delivery and
    Robinson indicated $4000. In the second call, Wysinger
    asked again (in coded language) if the cocaine had
    been delivered and Robinson indicated it had not. Robin-
    son then asked if it was in a white van and indicated
    that local police had stopped a white van a short
    distance from his home. Robinson told Wysinger he
    would drive past the scene to see if it was Tryd’s van. In
    the third call, the two continued to discuss the traffic
    stop of the van.
    When agents on the scene saw that the van came from
    the direction of Holmes’ house, they decided to see if the
    van had first delivered cocaine to Holmes. They found
    Holmes standing on the street a half a block from the
    van watching the police investigation. After being ar-
    rested, Holmes agreed to cooperate with authorities. As
    the agents talked to him, Holmes’ phone began ringing.
    Holmes indicated that Wysinger was calling and that he
    needed to answer. The officers allowed him to answer
    the phone and recorded the call. Holmes and Wysinger
    spoke about the stop of the van. After the call, Holmes
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    consented to a search of his house and police officers
    recovered a half kilogram of cocaine that Holmes
    admitted had just been delivered by Tryd.
    The next morning, agents recorded another phone
    call between Holmes and Wysinger. Wysinger sought
    Holmes’ advice on lawyers he could hire to represent
    Tryd. A few days later, the agents arranged for
    Holmes to call Wysinger again, in order to begin to
    explain to him that he would not be able to pay for the
    half-kilogram of cocaine that had been seized from his
    home. Holmes told Wysinger that agents had seized the
    cocaine from a house where he stored it. Wysinger
    wanted to visit the house himself, and so the agents
    allowed Holmes to set up a meeting with Wysinger.
    Wysinger met Holmes in a liquor store parking lot and
    transferred to Holmes’ truck. The agents later stopped
    Holmes’ truck and arrested Wysinger. The agents also
    arrested Rajdel Laurence, who was in the vehicle in
    which Wysinger had arrived. All were transported to the
    East St. Louis police department.
    On June 1, 2009, Wysinger was interrogated by Agent
    Rehg and Wade Gummersheimer, a Fairview Heights
    police officer who worked on a DEA task force. The
    video recording of the interrogation was played twice
    for the jury during Wysinger’s trial, once during the
    government’s case-in-chief, and once during delibera-
    tions at the request of the jury. The interrogation took
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    place in a small, uncomfortably warm 2 room containing
    a rectangular table, three chairs and a wall clock. The
    table was small enough that adults sitting on opposite
    sides would likely bump knees if they pulled their
    chairs up to it. The microphone recording the inter-
    rogation is not visible on the video. Agents Rehg and
    Gummersheimer entered the room together and a brief
    discussion ensued over which cell phone in a plastic
    bag belonged to Wysinger. A handcuffed Wysinger,
    who was seated alone in the room before the officers
    arrived, pointed out his phone without hesitation.
    Agent Rehg then briefly took a call on his own cell
    phone, and as soon as he hung up, Wysinger said, “Do
    I need a lawyer before we start talking?” Video at 12:54;
    R. 287, Tr. at 104.3 Agent Rehg replied, “Well, we’re going
    2
    During a break when the agents were out of the room and
    Wysinger was alone, he exclaimed, “Shit! It’s hot in this
    motherfucker!” Video at 13:26. Wysinger appeared unaware
    that the meeting and the break were being videotaped. In the
    opening moments of the video, Officer Gummersheimer can
    be seen wiping sweat from his forehead with his shirt
    sleeves. Video at 12:54.
    3
    All citations to the videotaped interrogation are to the time
    index displayed on the video, which was Exhibit 21 at trial.
    When the video was played for the jury during the trial, the
    court reporter attempted to transcribe the conversation, and
    we will occasionally cite to the trial transcript as well.
    Because of issues with the sound quality, many parts of the
    video are difficult to hear, and the trial transcript has many
    (continued...)
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    to talk about that.” Video at 12:54. He then introduced
    himself and Officer Gummersheimer and told Wysinger,
    “Make no bones about it. You’re under arrest. I mean,
    make no bones about it.” Video at 12:54; R. 287, Tr. at 104.
    After a brief interlude where Wysinger complained about
    the timing of his arrest, Agent Rehg began to read
    Wysinger his Miranda rights from a card that the agent
    pulled from his wallet. About half way through the
    reading, the agent began to scratch the back of his neck.
    When he reached the words, “If you can’t afford a
    lawyer, one will be appointed for you before we ask
    any questions. Do you understand . . . ,” Agent Rehg
    slapped the table loudly, startling Wysinger. Video at
    12:55; R. 287, Tr. at 105. The agent said that he had felt
    something crawling on his neck. In response to Rehg’s
    questions, Wysinger said he had previously been
    arrested for “petty shit,” that he did not have a high
    school or college education, but that he understood
    his rights.
    Agent Rehg then began to describe to Wysinger what
    the agents already knew about the flow of money and
    cocaine between Chicago, East St. Louis and Texas. In
    response to Agent Rehg’s comments, Wysinger indicated
    3
    (...continued)
    indications of “inaudible.” With a few careful reviews of the
    tape, we have been able to fill in some of the parts that were
    inaudible to the court reporter during the trial. In all
    relevant respects, our version of the taped interrogation is
    fully consistent with the district court’s findings regarding
    what was said during the interrogation.
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    that he knew the police were watching him and had
    stopped people he knew, and he surmised that “Keith,”
    presumably Keith Holmes, had been working with the
    police. After Agent Rehg told him that one of his
    associates lost $20,000 during a police stop in Texas,
    Wysinger grew impatient and said, “Get straight to the
    point, Mike. I just don’t want to get fucked in the deal.
    You know what I’m saying?” Video at 12:58; R. 287, Tr. at
    107. Agent Rehg then explained that Wysinger could
    cooperate or be charged with conspiracy to distribute
    cocaine. After denying personal involvement, Wysinger
    then asked if Agent Rehg could help his brother, Tryd.
    Agent Rehg indicated that the United States Attorney
    might be amenable to helping Tryd in exchange for
    Wysinger’s cooperation. Agent Rehg said he could not
    make any guarantees, that charges would not be
    dropped but that Wysinger could get a sentencing
    break for himself and his brother if he cooperated. Al-
    though much of what Wysinger said next was garbled,
    part of his statement was clear:
    There’s a whole lot of motherfuckers in Texas I do
    not like. You know what I’m saying? And I tell
    motherfuckers, in this game, you don’t fuck with
    those people, ‘cause you make enemies. You know
    what I’m saying? You always keep the motherfucker
    happy if you doing this type of shit, ‘cause the
    motherfucker come back to haunt you. You know
    what I’m saying?
    Video at 13:00; R. 287, Tr. at 109. Agent Rehg then ex-
    plained that, if Wysinger wished to cooperate, he
    would have to tell the agents what he had been doing,
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    that Agent Rehg would then speak to the U.S. Attorney to
    determine whether Wysinger would be released that day.
    Wysinger again expressed dissatisfaction that his
    brother had been arrested and Agent Rehg said that he
    could not agree to release Tryd, and that the bond
    decision was up to the judge. Wysinger told Agent Rehg
    that he needed to arrange the release of his brother more
    than he needed to be released himself. The following
    exchange then occurred:
    Rehg: Well, tell us what has been going on. Maybe
    that’s the best way to start.
    Wysinger: I mean, do you think I should have a law-
    yer? At this point?
    Rehg: That is up to you. . . . I read you your rights.
    If you want an attorney, by all means, get one. Ok?
    Wysinger: I mean, but can I call one now? That’s what
    I’m saying.
    Rehg: Who you gonna call?
    Wysinger: I got a, um, I had a number inside of the
    van, inside the green van on a sheet of paper. I had the
    attorney’s name.
    Gummersheimer: What’s his name? Do you know it?
    Wysinger: I can’t think of the name. I just had it wrote
    down.
    Rehg: Is he local?
    Wysinger: Yeah. He’s in Belleville.
    Rehg: What’s his name? I might know him.
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    Video at 13:03; R. 287, Tr. at 111. This exchange
    continued for some time before Agent Rehg asked, “Can
    we go look in the van?” Wysinger assented and Agent
    Rehg asked, “Is there any dope or money in there?” Video
    at 13:04; R. 287, Tr. at 112. That question prompted a
    denial and an explanation of why Wysinger was in the
    East St. Louis area, namely, to get a lawyer for his
    brother and to retrieve a rental van seized by police so
    that the van could be returned and stop accumulating
    rental charges. Agent Rehg disputed the truth of this
    explanation and after a brief diversion, the topic
    returned to Wysinger’s request for an attorney:
    Rehg: We’ll go out in the van and get that number
    if you want an attorney. If you don’t, we can get the
    thing going so we know where you are at. It’s up
    to you.
    Wysinger: I just don’t want to cross no lines, and then,
    you know what I’m saying, regret shit. I mean, I want
    to work with you. You know what I’m saying?
    Gummersheimer: What is the attorney’s phone num-
    ber? Do you have any idea?
    Video at 13:06; R. 287, Tr. at 113-14. Wysinger again
    struggled to remember the number and to describe the
    paper in the van containing the number. Agent Rehg then
    asked Wysinger if the attorney Wysinger intended to
    call was his brother’s lawyer, and told Wysinger that he
    was “not going to be allowed to have the same attorney”
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    as his brother.4 Video at 13:06; R. 287, Tr. at 114. After
    a brief discussion of whether the attorney had already
    been retained or paid, Agent Rehg asked, “You want us
    to look for it?” and Wysinger said, “Yeah, go get it for
    me, Mike. I’m going to call this attorney, get his advice.
    I was on my way to see him but I didn’t know how to
    get over there.” Video at 13:07; R. 287, Tr. at 115.
    Agents Rehg and Gummersheimer left the room and
    came back with a paper they retrieved from the van.
    Agent Rehg asked, “Do you mind if I call and hand the
    phone to you?” and Wysinger replied, “Yeah.” Video at
    13:12; R. 287, Tr. at 115. Agent Rehg then used his own
    cell phone to call the lawyer. Rather than hand the
    phone over, he first engaged the lawyer in conversation
    for a few minutes, giving him “background” about
    Wysinger’s arrest, and discussing a cocaine conspiracy
    involving persons in Texas, Chicago and East St. Louis.
    Agent Rehg told the attorney that Wysinger was the
    main target of the investigation. Eventually, he handed
    the phone to Wysinger. Agents Rehg and Gummers-
    heimer stayed in the room while Wysinger spoke to
    the lawyer, sitting no more than a few feet away, able to
    hear every word Wysinger said. The video- and audio-
    taping continued as Wysinger had a very brief discus-
    sion with the lawyer. At one point, Wysinger was ap-
    4
    Agent Rehg’s advice was incorrect. A lawyer may represent
    two clients even if those clients have conflicting interests so
    long as both clients consent to the representation and so long
    as the lawyer meets the requirements of Rules 1.7 and 1.8 of
    the Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct.
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    parently on hold with the lawyer and engaged in a brief
    conversation with Agent Rehg about their first phone
    call, when Wysinger called Agent Rehg to discuss the
    seized money shortly before Christmas when Agent Rehg
    was on vacation. After completing a very brief conversa-
    tion with the lawyer, Wysinger handed the phone back
    to Agent Rehg, who continued talking to the attorney
    about Wysinger’s possible cooperation.
    When Agent Rehg hung up the phone, he told Wysinger
    that he would attempt to arrange for Wysinger to get
    access to part of the seized funds in order to pay the
    attorney if Wysinger was interested in cooperating.
    Because the attorney was not able to meet with the
    agents until Friday (the interrogation took place on a
    Monday), Wysinger would have to drive back to East
    St. Louis later that week. Wysinger was irritated by this
    turn of events and complained that he did not “need
    this headache,” that he had ten children and was tired
    and under stress. He told Agent Rehg, “I am wore out.
    I’m tired. This is stressful. The economy is fucked up,
    you know what I’m saying? What can a black man do
    nowadays?” Video at 13:21; R. 287, Tr. at 118. Agent
    Rehg told Wysinger that many people were struggling
    and had choices to make.
    Agent Rehg then decided to give Wysinger “some
    advice,” emphasizing that he was not asking questions
    because Wysinger had asked for an attorney. Video at
    13:21-13:22; R. 287, Tr. at 118. Agent Rehg told Wysinger
    that if he was serious about cooperating he should not
    talk to anyone in East St. Louis except his lawyer. He
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    specifically warned Wysinger, “Don’t be talking to any-
    body else, any of the guys that we’re talking to.” Video
    at 13:22; R. 287, Tr. at 119. At this reference to persons
    who were already cooperating with the police, Wysinger
    again showed irritation, and although the first part of
    his response was unintelligible, the last part was clear:
    “fuck around and hurt somebody.” Video at 13:22;
    R. 287, Tr. at 119. Agent Rehg clearly heard this as a
    threat to cooperating witnesses and immediately
    warned Wysinger that he would be “locked up” if the
    agents heard about any such threats. After asking
    Wysinger about his prior criminal record, Agent Rehg
    again warned him that if he heard “any other bullshit
    going on out there” they would arrest Wysinger again.
    Video at 13:22-13:23; R. 287, Tr. at 119. Agent Rehg em-
    phasized that things are not always as they appear and
    that there were many ways the agents obtained the in-
    formation that led to Wysinger’s arrest that day. They
    again talked about a lawyer Wysinger wished to hire
    for his brother, and Wysinger expressed more concern
    over his brother’s arrest because Tryd had recently been
    released from prison after serving a sixteen-year sen-
    tence. He indicated that people were asking where his
    brother was and that he was telling them that he was
    “on vacation.” Video at 13:23; R. 287, Tr. at 120.
    The entire tape was shown to the jury twice,5 once
    during the government’s case-in-chief and once during
    5
    A few short clips were shown to the jury again during the
    government’s case-in-chief, immediately after the full video
    was played.
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    deliberations at the request of the jury. The jury also
    requested to hear the tape of the initial call with
    Agent Rehg regarding the $54,000 seized from Tryd’s
    van in December 2008. During the case-in-chief and
    closing arguments, the government repeatedly em-
    phasized several of the more incriminating statements
    Wysinger made during the interrogation. In addition to
    Agent Rehg’s testimony and the videotape of the inter-
    rogation, the main evidence against Wysinger consisted
    of the testimony of cooperating co-conspirators who
    had struck favorable deals with the government in ex-
    change for their testimony, and recorded calls with
    those co-conspirators. No money or drugs were ever
    seized from Wysinger and the police never connected
    any of the phones used in the recorded calls to Wysinger.
    Instead, Wysinger’s participation in those calls was
    established by the testimony of cooperating co-con-
    spirators and by Agent Rehg’s identification of
    Wysinger’s voice.
    Wysinger moved to suppress the videotaped inter-
    rogation before trial. He contended that he was not prop-
    erly apprised of his Miranda rights, that the agents at-
    tempted to divert him from exercising his rights,
    that he did not waive those rights, and that questioning
    improperly continued after he repeatedly asked for a
    lawyer. The district court rejected all of Wysinger’s ar-
    guments. The court first found that Agent Rehg clearly
    read Wysinger his Miranda rights at the start of the in-
    terview. The court held that Wysinger waived those
    rights implicitly when he indicated that he understood
    his rights and then offered an uncoerced statement.
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    Finally, the court concluded that each mention of an
    attorney by Wysinger failed to meet the standard for a
    clear and unambiguous invocation of the right to an
    attorney. As we noted above, the jury viewed the
    entire interrogation twice before convicting Wysinger
    on both counts charged in the indictment. Wysinger
    appeals.
    II.
    On appeal, Wysinger again challenges the admission
    of the videotaped interrogation. He first contends that
    the court erred in admitting the video because he
    clearly and unambiguously invoked his right to counsel
    multiple times. He next argues that the statements he
    made to Agent Rehg and Officer Gummersheimer were
    obtained as the result of inadequate and misleading
    Miranda warnings. Finally, he contends that the court
    should not have admitted the portions of the video con-
    taining his privileged communications with his lawyer.
    In considering a district court’s decision on a motion
    to suppress, we review findings of fact for clear error
    and questions of law de novo. United States v. Peters,
    
    435 F.3d 746
    , 750 (7th Cir. 2006).
    A.
    We begin with Wysinger’s claim that the district court
    erred in refusing to suppress the video on the ground
    that the agents continued to interrogate him after he
    clearly invoked his right to counsel multiple times.
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    There are no real disputes regarding the facts. The
    parties do not disagree in any material way about
    the words that Wysinger spoke when he referenced
    his right to an attorney. Instead, they take issue with
    the legal effect of those words, and that is a question
    of law. 
    Peters, 435 F.3d at 750
    .
    In Miranda, the Supreme Court held that, when an
    individual in custody “states that he wants an attorney,
    the interrogation must cease until an attorney is pres-
    ent.” Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    , 474 (1966). The
    Supreme Court later clarified:
    [W]hen an accused has invoked his right to have
    counsel present during custodial interrogation, a
    valid waiver of that right cannot be established by
    showing only that he responded to further po-
    lice-initiated custodial interrogation even if he has
    been advised of his rights. We further hold that an
    accused, . . . having expressed his desire to deal with
    the police only through counsel, is not subject to
    further interrogation by the authorities until counsel
    has been made available to him, unless the accused
    himself initiates further communication, exchanges,
    or conversations with the police.
    Edwards v. Arizona, 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 484-85 (1981). The govern-
    ment does not dispute that Wysinger was in custody, the
    first part of the Miranda analysis. The rule expressed in
    Miranda and Edwards next requires courts to engage in
    two distinct inquiries. First, courts must determine
    whether the suspect actually invoked his or her right to
    counsel. “Second, if the accused invoked his right to
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    counsel, courts may admit his responses to further ques-
    tioning only on finding that he (a) initiated further dis-
    cussions with the police, and (b) knowingly and intelli-
    gently waived the right he had invoked.” Smith v.
    Illinois, 
    469 U.S. 91
    , 95 (1984) (citing 
    Edwards, 451 U.S. at 485
    , 486, n. 9).
    The question here is whether and when Wysinger
    “actually invoked” his right to counsel. “To avoid dif-
    ficulties of proof and to provide guidance to officers
    conducting interrogations, this is an objective inquiry.”
    Davis v. United States, 
    512 U.S. 452
    , 458-59 (1994). In order
    for the protections of Miranda and Edwards to apply, the
    suspect must, at a minimum, make a “statement that
    can reasonably be construed to be an expression of a
    desire for the assistance of an attorney in dealing with
    custodial interrogation by the police.” McNeil v. Wisconsin,
    
    501 U.S. 171
    , 178 (1991). See also 
    Davis, 512 U.S. at 459
    (same). If a suspect makes an equivocal or ambiguous
    reference to a lawyer, a reference that a reasonable
    officer would interpret as a statement that the suspect
    might be invoking the right to counsel, there is no re-
    quirement that questioning end. 
    Davis, 512 U.S. at 459
    .
    In determining whether a suspect clearly invoked his
    or her right to counsel, we consider the circumstances in
    which the statement was made as well as the words
    employed. United States v. Shabaz, 
    579 F.3d 815
    , 819 (7th
    Cir. 2009), cert. denied, 
    130 S. Ct. 3384
    (2010). See also
    United States v. Hampton, 
    675 F.3d 720
    , 727 (7th Cir. 2012)
    (objective inquiry into whether suspect invoked right
    to counsel includes review of not only the words the
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    suspect used but also the circumstances in which
    the statement was made).
    [T]he suspect must unambiguously request counsel.
    As we have observed, a statement either is such an
    assertion of the right to counsel or it is not. . . . Al-
    though a suspect need not speak with the discrimina-
    tion of an Oxford don . . . he must articulate his
    desire to have counsel present sufficiently clearly
    that a reasonable police officer in the circumstances
    would understand the statement to be a request for
    an attorney. If the statement fails to meet the
    requisite level of clarity, Edwards does not require
    that the officers stop questioning the suspect.
    
    Davis, 512 U.S. at 459
    (internal quotation marks and
    citations omitted).
    In Smith, the suspect was told he had the right to
    consult with a lawyer and to have a lawyer present
    when being questioned. When the officer immediately
    followed this part of the Miranda warning by asking, “Do
    you understand that?” the suspect replied, “Uh, yeah.
    I’d like to do 
    that.” 469 U.S. at 93
    . Although the
    suspect then wavered regarding his desire to have
    a lawyer after the officer completed the full Miranda
    warning, the Supreme Court held that the later equivoca-
    tion could not render ambiguous the earlier clear and
    unequivocal invocation of the right to counsel. 
    Smith, 469 U.S. at 95-98
    . Similarly, in Edwards, the state supreme
    court determined that the defendant’s statement, “I want
    an attorney before making a deal,” was sufficiently clear
    within the context of the interrogation to constitute a
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    request for counsel. 
    Edwards, 451 U.S. at 480
    n.6. On the
    other hand, the statement, “Maybe I should talk to a
    lawyer,” is not a clear request for counsel. 
    Davis, 512 U.S. at 462
    . See also 
    Shabaz, 579 F.3d at 818-19
    (the question
    “[A]m I going to be able to get an attorney?” posed before
    Miranda warnings is not a clear request to consult with
    counsel presently); United States v. Lee, 
    413 F.3d 622
    , 626
    (7th Cir. 2005) (“Can I have a lawyer?” is an unequivocal
    request for an attorney, requiring that police officers
    halt the interrogation; “I think I should call my lawyer,”
    “Can I talk to a lawyer?” and “I have to get me a
    good lawyer, man. Can I make a phone call?” are also all
    unequivocal invocations of the right to counsel); United
    States v. Lord, 
    29 F.3d 1216
    , 1221 (7th Cir. 1994) (the ques-
    tion, “I can’t afford a lawyer but is there any way
    I can get one?” lacked the clear implication of a
    present desire to consult with counsel and thus was not
    an unequivocal request for counsel).
    Wysinger contends that he first invoked his right
    to counsel in the opening moments of the interroga-
    tion, when he asked “Do I need a lawyer before we start
    talking?” Video at 12:54; R. 287, Tr. at 104. Wysinger
    argues that this question indicated an intention to have
    a lawyer present at that moment, before the interroga-
    tion began. In context, Wysinger asked this question
    before receiving a Miranda warning. Agent Rehg re-
    sponded, “Well, we’re going to talk about that.” He then
    gave a Miranda warning that we will discuss below and
    engaged Wysinger in a conversation that meets the def-
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    inition of interrogation.6 In this context, a reasonable
    officer might not understand Wysinger’s initial refer-
    ence to an attorney as an unequivocal request for a
    lawyer. True, Wysinger’s question mentioned the
    present moment, i.e., “before we start talking.” But
    asking “Do I need a lawyer?” is a substantively dif-
    ferent question than “Can I have a lawyer?” See 
    Lee, 413 F.3d at 626
    (“Can I have a lawyer?” is an unequivocal
    request for an attorney). The first question indicates
    that the asker is contemplating whether he is in need of
    the services of a lawyer; the second question is a direct
    request for a lawyer. See also Mueller v. Angelone, 
    181 F.3d 557
    , 573-74 (4th Cir. 1999) (question “Do you think
    I need an attorney here?” posed to police officer during
    interrogation was an ambiguous “query whether
    his interrogator thought that counsel might be helpful”
    and not “a clear assertion of his right to counsel”); Diaz
    v. Senkowski, 
    76 F.3d 61
    , 63 (2d Cir. 1996) (question “Do
    you think I need a lawyer?” not a clear invocation of
    the right to counsel); United States v. Ogbuehi, 
    18 F.3d 807
    ,
    813 (9th Cir. 1994) (a suspect asking if he “should see
    a lawyer” has not clearly invoked his right to counsel);
    United States v. March, 
    999 F.2d 456
    , 460 (10th Cir. 1993)
    (defendant’s question “Do you think I need an attor-
    6
    The Miranda safeguards apply not only to express ques-
    tioning but to “any words or actions on the part of the police
    (other than those normally attendant to arrest and custody)
    that the police should know are reasonably likely to elicit an
    incriminating response from the suspect.” Rhode Island v.
    Innis, 
    446 U.S. 291
    , 300-01 (1980).
    22                                             No. 10-3894
    ney?” did not constitute an unequivocal request for an
    attorney). Wysinger’s initial question thus was not an
    unequivocal request for a lawyer and Agent Rehg was
    not required to cease the interrogation at that point. As
    we have done before, though, we encourage law enforce-
    ment officers to heed the Supreme Court’s suggestion
    in Davis that “when a suspect makes an ambiguous or
    equivocal statement it will often be good police practice
    for the interviewing officers to clarify whether or not
    he actually wants an attorney.” 
    Lee, 413 F.3d at 626
    -27
    (quoting 
    Davis, 512 U.S. at 461
    ). That clarification can
    aid both the police officers and the reviewing courts.
    
    Lee, 413 F.3d at 626
    -27. But see Berghuis v. Thompkins, 
    130 S. Ct. 2250
    , 2259-60 (2010) (if a suspect makes an ambigu-
    ous or equivocal statement concerning counsel, police
    are not required to end the interrogation or ask
    questions clarifying whether the accused wishes to
    invoke his or her Miranda rights).
    That first, ambiguous question by Wysinger came at
    time index 12:54 in the video. Wysinger’s next reference
    to a lawyer occurred at time index 13:03, after approxi-
    mately nine minutes of interrogation. At that point,
    Agent Rehg opened his notebook, pulled out his pen,
    and asked Wysinger to “tell us what has been going on.”
    Wysinger then made his second reference to counsel,
    saying, “I mean, do you think I should have a lawyer?
    At this point?” Video at 13:03; R. 287, Tr. at 111. Agent
    Rehg responded that it was up to him, that if he wanted
    an attorney, he should get one. Wysinger’s second
    question was virtually identical to his initial, ambigu-
    ous inquiry. In and of itself, it does not constitute an
    No. 10-3894                                                 23
    unequivocal request for counsel. As is apparent from
    Agent Rehg’s response, he heard Wysinger’s question
    as just that, a question seeking the agent’s opinion.
    But Wysinger’s very next sentence clarified the
    request and removed all doubt as to his meaning. After
    Agent Rehg told him, “If you want an attorney, by
    all means, get one,” Wysinger responded, “I mean, but
    can I call one now? That’s what I’m saying.” Video at
    13:03; R. 287, Tr. at 111. That response to Agent Rehg’s
    statement, in context, was an unequivocal request for
    counsel that no reasonable officer could interpret other-
    wise. The government asserts that this question could
    have been asked to determine whether Wysinger would
    still be eligible for cooperation if he called an attorney. But
    that is a strained and unnatural reading of Wysinger’s
    question. Agent Rehg had just flipped open his notebook
    and asked directly (for the first time) for Wysinger to
    tell the officers “what has been going on.” Wysinger
    asked if the agent thought he should have a lawyer at
    that point, and when the agent told him it was up
    to him, he asked to “call one now.” In context, the gov-
    ernment’s suggested meaning makes no sense.
    The interrogation should have immediately ceased at
    that point. Instead, Agent Rehg continued to make state-
    ments and ask questions that a reasonable officer would
    know were likely to elicit incriminating responses. For
    example, within seconds, Agent Rehg asked if there was
    “any dope or money” in Wysinger’s van. And in the
    ensuing minutes, Agent Rehg challenged the truth of
    Wysinger’s explanation for why he was in the East
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    St. Louis area, reminded Wysinger that the police had
    intercepted phones calls, and told Wysinger that he
    was familiar with other persons in Wysinger’s circle.
    The court should have excluded everything on the
    video from the invocation of the right to counsel at
    time index 13:03 through the end of the interrogation
    at 13:26 on the grounds that the additional twenty-
    three minutes of interrogation violated Miranda and its
    progeny.7
    B.
    Our conclusion that the court should have sup-
    pressed any interrogation that occurred after Wysinger
    invoked his right to counsel at time index 13:03 does not
    address the first nine minutes of the video, which
    Wysinger also sought to exclude. We therefore must
    consider Wysinger’s alternate argument that the entire
    video should have been suppressed because his state-
    ments were obtained as the result of an inadequate and
    misleading Miranda warning. In particular, Wysinger
    complains that the Miranda warning misled him into
    believing that his right to counsel applied only to “ques-
    tioning” and that Agent Rehg then engaged in a course
    of conduct designed to divert Wysinger away from in-
    7
    Although the agents later allowed Wysinger to call an
    attorney, an isolated consultation with an attorney who is not
    physically present is inadequate under Edwards and its
    progeny to protect a suspect’s rights. See Minnick v. Mississippi,
    
    498 U.S. 146
    , 154 (1990).
    No. 10-3894                                            25
    voking his rights by implying that questioning had not
    yet begun. We will first address the adequacy of the
    Miranda warning Agent Rehg delivered, and we will
    then turn to whether Wysinger was misled and diverted
    by the warning and the agents’ course of conduct.
    1.
    The government contends that Wysinger waived his
    challenge to the adequacy of the Miranda warning by
    not preserving the issue below. But Wysinger did in
    fact raise this argument in his pretrial motion to
    suppress in the district court, and the court addressed it
    on the merits. R. 101 (Motion to Suppress Video and
    Taped Statements). In that motion, he complained that,
    after he requested a lawyer, the DEA agents “proceed[ed]
    to direct the conversation away from the defendant’s
    request for a lawyer” and continued the interrogation.
    He also asserted that he “was not properly advised of
    his rights to consult a lawyer and to have a lawyer
    present [with] him during the interrogation.” Wysinger
    raised the issue a second time in his post-trial motion
    for judgment of acquittal, where he asserted that
    Agent Rehg repeatedly attempted to misdirect him re-
    garding his Miranda rights. R. 182 (Memorandum of
    Law in Support of Motion for Judgment of Acquittal
    Notwithstanding the Jury’s Verdict or in the Alternative
    for a New Trial). Because the district court was alerted
    to the issue and had an opportunity to rule on the merits,
    the claim is therefore adequately preserved. United
    States v. Van Eyl, 
    468 F.3d 428
    (7th Cir. 2006).
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    We begin with the words of the Miranda warning, and
    the context in which those words were delivered. Almost
    as soon as the agents entered the interrogation room,
    Wysinger asked whether he needed a lawyer. Agent Rehg
    side-stepped the question and then told Wysinger that
    he was under arrest. The agent then delivered the fol-
    lowing warning to Wysinger, which he appeared to
    be reading from a card he extracted from his wallet:
    Before we ask any questions, you must understand
    you have a right to remain silent. Anything you say
    can be used against you in court. You have a right
    to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask any ques-
    tions or have one—have an attorney with you during
    questioning. If you can’t afford a lawyer, one will be
    appointed for you before we ask any questions. Do you
    understand—
    Video at 12:55; R. 287, Tr. at 105.8 At that point, Agent
    Rehg, who had been scratching his neck while reading
    8
    This transcription is based on several careful reviews of the
    tape, as well as the court reporter’s rendition of the tape as
    it was played during the trial. In this part of the tape, Agent
    Rehg spoke so softly that it is difficult to hear what he is
    saying. The court reporter, for example, omitted from the
    official transcript the words, “you must understand you have
    a right to remain silent.” As transcribed in court, there are
    thus significant omissions in the warning. Because we have
    the benefit of the tape itself, and because the district court
    based its ruling on the tape itself, we will rely on the tape.
    In all relevant respects, our transcription is consistent with
    the district court’s findings of fact.
    No. 10-3894                                            27
    the warning, slapped the table loudly, causing Wysinger
    to move back quickly from the table and exclaim,
    “Damn!” After explaining that he was killing an insect,
    Agent Rehg picked up the card again and asked Wysinger
    if he had ever been arrested. Wysinger replied, “Petty
    shit.” Agent Rehg then asked him, “You understand your
    rights, though?” and Wysinger replied, “Yeah.” Agent
    Rehg then asked Wysinger if he had a high school or
    college education, and Wysinger shook his head nega-
    tively and said, “None of that.” Agent Rehg repeated,
    “But you understand, right?” and Wysinger again said,
    “Yeah.” Video at 12:55; R. 287, Tr. at 105.
    In Miranda, the Supreme Court set forth the basic
    warnings required to preserve a suspect’s Fifth Amend-
    ment rights:
    At the outset, if a person in custody is to be sub-
    jected to interrogation, he must first be informed in
    clear and unequivocal terms that he has the right to
    remain silent. . . . The warning of the right to
    remain silent must be accompanied by the explana-
    tion that anything said can and will be used against
    the individual in court. . . . [A]n individual held for
    interrogation must be clearly informed that he has
    the right to consult with a lawyer and to have the
    lawyer with him during interrogation[.] . . . In order
    fully to apprise a person interrogated of the extent
    of his rights under this system then, it is necessary
    to warn him not only that he has the right to consult
    with an attorney, but also that if he is indigent a
    lawyer will be appointed to represent him.
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    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 467-73
    . The Court also provided
    a handy summary of the now-familiar warnings, as well
    as the consequences of failing to deliver the warnings:
    To summarize, we hold that when an individual is
    taken into custody or otherwise deprived of his free-
    dom by the authorities in any significant way and
    is subjected to questioning, . . . [h]e must be warned
    prior to any questioning that he has the right to
    remain silent, that anything he says can be used
    against him in a court of law, that he has the right
    to the presence of an attorney, and that if he cannot
    afford an attorney one will be appointed for him
    prior to any questioning if he so desires. Oppor-
    tunity to exercise these rights must be afforded to
    him throughout the interrogation. After such
    warnings have been given, and such opportunity
    afforded him, the individual may knowingly and
    intelligently waive these rights and agree to answer
    questions or make a statement. But unless and until
    such warnings and waiver are demonstrated by the
    prosecution at trial, no evidence obtained as a result
    of interrogation can be used against him.
    
    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 478-79
    .
    Agent Rehg veered slightly from the standard warning
    language in a few respects. A potentially serious misstate-
    ment of the Miranda warning occurred when Agent Rehg
    told Wysinger that he had the “right to talk to a lawyer
    for advice before we ask any questions or have
    one—have an attorney with you during questioning.”
    Taken literally, Agent Rehg told Wysinger that he could
    talk to an attorney before questioning or during ques-
    No. 10-3894                                                29
    tioning. In fact, Wysinger had a right to consult an
    attorney both before and during questioning. Perhaps
    because they advise suspects of their rights so often,
    officers sometimes become lax with the wording of the
    warning and risk a misstatement of the law. Agent Rehg’s
    wallet card is not part of the record on appeal and so we
    do not know if the card is incorrect or if Agent Rehg
    simply misspoke when he changed the “and” to an “or.”
    The district court, which considered the same video and
    transcript that we are analyzing, also found that Agent
    Rehg told Wysinger that “he had a right to talk to a
    layer [sic] for advice before questioning or to have an
    attorney present during questioning[.]” R. 151, at 10
    (emphasis added). The court found that this warning
    was adequate under Miranda.
    We review the district court’s findings of fact for
    clear error, but there is no dispute here regarding the
    actual words that Agent Rehg spoke when he read
    Wysinger his rights. See 
    Peters, 435 F.3d at 750
    -51. The
    legal effect of those words, though, is a question of law
    that we review de novo, and it is the legal sufficiency of
    the warning that is at issue here. 
    Peters, 435 F.3d at 751
    .
    The Supreme Court has repeatedly declined to dictate
    the particular words in which the Miranda information
    must be conveyed. See Florida v. Powell, 
    130 S. Ct. 1195
    , 1204
    (2010) (noting that, although the four warnings Miranda
    requires are invariable, the Court has never dictated the
    words in which the essential information must be con-
    veyed); Duckworth v. Eagan, 
    492 U.S. 195
    , 202 (1989) (com-
    menting that the Court has never required that Miranda
    warnings be given in the exact form described in that
    decision); California v. Prysock, 
    453 U.S. 355
    , 359-60 (1981)
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    (remarking that Miranda itself indicated that no
    talismanic incantation was required to satisfy its stric-
    tures). However, the words the officer employs must
    reasonably convey to a suspect his rights as required
    by Miranda. 
    Powell, 130 S. Ct. at 1204-05
    (the relevant
    inquiry is whether the warnings reasonably conveyed
    to a suspect his rights as required by Miranda; the
    words used must be sufficiently comprehensive and com-
    prehensible when given a commonsense reading); Duck-
    
    worth, 492 U.S. at 202
    (a fully effective equivalent of
    the warnings listed in Miranda is sufficient); 
    Prysock, 453 U.S. at 359-60
    (the Miranda warnings or their
    equivalent will suffice).
    The wording of Agent Rehg’s warning may have been
    inadequate by this standard. The agent’s divergence
    from the familiar script would put a suspect to a false
    choice between talking to a lawyer before questioning or
    having a lawyer present during questioning, when
    Miranda clearly requires that a suspect be advised that
    he has the right to an attorney both before and during
    questioning. In Powell, the officer delivering the Miranda
    warning told the suspect that he had “the right to talk to
    a lawyer before answering any of our questions,” and
    that he had “the right to use any of these rights at any
    time you want during this interview.” 
    9 130 S. Ct. at 1200
    .
    The Court found the warning sufficient:
    9
    There was no dispute in Powell regarding whether the officer
    adequately conveyed the other Miranda warnings. The only
    issue was whether the warning was sufficient to convey the
    right to the presence of counsel before and during interrogation.
    No. 10-3894                                                  31
    The first statement communicated that Powell could
    consult with a lawyer before answering any par-
    ticular question, and the second statement con-
    firmed that he could exercise that right while the
    interrogation was underway. In combination, the
    two warnings reasonably conveyed Powell’s right to
    have an attorney present, not only at the outset
    of interrogation, but at all times.
    
    Powell, 130 S. Ct. at 1205
    . Unlike the warning in Powell,
    Agent Rehg’s statement of Miranda rights did not rea-
    sonably convey the right to have an attorney present
    “not only at the outset of interrogation, but at all times.” 
    Id. In Duckworth, the
    warning given to the suspect
    included the admonition, “You have a right to talk to a
    lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions, and
    to have him with you during 
    questioning.” 492 U.S. at 198
    . But after advising the suspect that he had the right
    to an attorney even if he could not afford to hire one,
    the police officer also told him, “We have no way of
    giving you a lawyer, but one will be appointed for you, if
    you wish, if and when you go to court.” 
    Id. The Court found
    that this language did not mislead the suspect
    into believing that he did not have the right to a lawyer
    unless charges were filed and he went to court. Rather,
    it accurately described the process for obtaining ap-
    pointed counsel in that jurisdiction. Miranda itself
    did not require the police to provide the lawyer or have
    a station house lawyer present at all times to advise
    arrestees. 
    Duckworth, 492 U.S. at 203-04
    . The Court
    noted that Miranda required only that the police not
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    question a suspect unless he waives his right to counsel.
    
    Id. The Court asserted
    that reviewing courts “need not
    examine Miranda warnings as if construing a will or
    defining the terms of an easement.” 
    Duckworth, 492 U.S. at 203
    (quoting 
    Prysock, 453 U.S. at 361
    ). Instead, a re-
    viewing court should consider whether the warnings
    reasonably conveyed to the suspect his rights as
    required by Miranda. 
    Duckworth, 492 U.S. at 203
    .
    Similarly, in Prysock, the Court found that the warnings
    given were adequate even though not given in the usual
    order:
    It is clear that the police in this case fully conveyed to
    respondent his rights as required by Miranda. He
    was told of his right to have a lawyer present prior
    to and during interrogation, and his right to have a
    lawyer appointed at no cost if he could not afford
    one. These warnings conveyed to respondent his
    right to have a lawyer appointed if he could not
    afford one prior to and during interrogation.
    
    Prysock, 453 U.S. at 361
    . But Wysinger was not informed
    “of his right to have a lawyer present prior to and during
    interrogation.” 
    Id. Although there is
    no particular
    language that must be used to convey the warnings, and
    although we are not to construe the words of the
    warning as if reading the terms of a will or an easement,
    the difference between an “and” and an “or,” depending
    on the context, may cause a serious misunderstanding
    of one of the core Miranda rights. See Missouri v. Seibert,
    
    542 U.S. 600
    , 611 (2004) (plurality) (“[j]ust as no
    talismanic incantation is required to satisfy [Miranda’s]
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    strictures, . . . it would be absurd to think that mere
    recitation of the litany suffices to satisfy Miranda in every
    conceivable circumstance”) (internal quotation marks
    and citations omitted).
    A person given a choice between having a lawyer
    with him before questioning or during questioning
    might wait until it is clear that questioning has begun
    before invoking his right to counsel. As we noted above,
    the Miranda safeguards apply not only to express ques-
    tioning but also to “any words or actions on the part of
    the police (other than those normally attendant to arrest
    and custody) that the police should know are reasonably
    likely to elicit an incriminating response from the sus-
    pect.” 
    Innis, 446 U.S. at 300-01
    . Although judges and
    lawyers know that interrogation encompasses more
    than direct questioning, the average citizen may be un-
    aware that Miranda’s protection extends to these addi-
    tional tactics. A correctly worded Miranda warning
    avoids this confusion by alerting the suspect that he or
    she has an immediate right to an attorney and also a
    right to have an attorney present during questioning. See
    
    Berghuis, 130 S. Ct. at 2260
    (full comprehension of the
    rights to remain silent and to request an attorney are
    sufficient to dispel whatever coercion is inherent in
    the interrogation process). But an incorrectly worded
    Miranda warning, one that suggests that Miranda rights
    apply only to direct questioning or to the time before
    direct questioning, followed by diversionary tactics that
    redirect the suspect away from asserting those rights,
    frustrates the purpose of the Miranda protections. See
    
    Seibert, 542 U.S. at 621-22
    (noting that the Miranda rule
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    would be frustrated if police were allowed to undermine
    its meaning and effect by using a technique that creates
    too high a risk that a post-warning statement would
    be obtained when a suspect was deprived of the “knowl-
    edge essential to his ability to understand the nature of
    his rights and the consequences of abandoning them.”)
    (Kennedy, J., concurring in the judgment) (quoting
    Moran v. Burbine, 
    475 U.S. 412
    , 423-24 (1986)).
    2.
    Perhaps this error in wording alone would not be
    enough to necessitate the exclusion of the entire video-
    taped interrogation if it was otherwise clear that
    Wysinger properly understood his rights in the context
    in which they were given. But Wysinger contends that
    the warning appeared to condition his rights on the
    beginning of “questioning” and the agents then implied
    that questioning had not yet begun. According to
    Wysinger, the agents repeatedly attempted to divert his
    attention from asserting his rights. The diversion began,
    according to Wysinger, one minute into the interrogation,
    when he asked Agent Rehg, “Do I need a lawyer before we
    start talking?” and Agent Rehg replied, “Well, we’re going
    to talk about that.” But the agent did not answer
    Wysinger’s question until he asked it a second time
    approximately nine minutes later. Instead of answering
    Wysinger’s first question, Agent Rehg read Wysinger his
    rights as we detailed above. Near the conclusion of the
    ambiguously phrased warning, Agent Rehg slammed the
    table loudly, startling Wysinger and further diverting him
    No. 10-3894                                                   35
    from the question he had just asked regarding his need for
    a lawyer. After determining that Wysinger had been
    arrested previously only for petty crimes and lacked a
    high school or college education, Agent Rehg then re-
    peatedly implied that questioning had not yet begun.
    He first told Wysinger:
    You know, listen, we’re going to cut to the chase, and
    we’re going to lay it out for you a little bit. It’s going to
    be up to you what you want to do. . . . I’m gonna
    tell you what the story is. You listen for a minute.
    Video at 12:55-12:56; R. 287, Tr. at 105-06. This implied
    that Wysinger could decide whether to exercise his
    rights after Agent Rehg “la[id] it out for” him and told
    him “what the story is,” and that, in the meantime, he
    should “listen for a minute.” The time to invoke his
    rights, in other words, had not yet arrived. The “story”
    consisted of Agent Rehg telling Wysinger that the DEA
    had been watching him since the prior year, that they
    had seized drugs from his brother and both drugs and
    cash from some of his associates, and had intercepted
    a number of phone calls involving Wysinger, his brother
    and others. Not surprisingly, this provocative speech
    prompted some incriminating responses from Wysinger,
    as the speech was undoubtedly designed to do. See
    
    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 450
    (describing the interrogation
    tactics of displaying an air of confidence in the suspect’s
    guilt and appearing to be interested only in confirming
    certain details); 
    Innis, 446 U.S. at 299
    (noting that tactics
    such as positing the guilt of the suspect, minimizing
    the moral seriousness of the offense, and casting blame
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    on the victim or society, in a custodial setting, amount
    to interrogation as effective as express questioning).
    Agent Rehg then told Wysinger that “basically there
    are two choices here.” Interestingly, neither of them
    involved invoking his right to remain silent or his right
    to have counsel present. Instead, Agent Rehg told
    Wysinger:
    If you totally—if you didn’t want to talk with us,
    down the road most likely you’re going to be charged
    with conspiracy to distribute cocaine. Conspiracy is
    a tough charge.
    Video at 12:59; R. 287, Tr. at 108. After a response from
    Wysinger, Agent Rehg presented the other choice, co-
    operation, framed as whether Wysinger wanted to “help
    [him]self.” Wysinger was far more interested in helping
    his brother but Agent Rehg clearly told him the
    charges against his brother would not be dismissed. After
    Wysinger made arguably the most incriminating state-
    ment of the interrogation,1 0 Agent Rehg again told him
    10
    That statement was: “There’s a whole lot of motherfuckers
    in Texas I do not like. . . . And I tell motherfuckers, in this
    game, you don’t fuck with those people, ‘cause you make
    enemies. You know what I’m saying? You always keep the
    motherfucker happy if you doing this type of shit ‘cause the
    motherfucker come back to haunt you. You know what I’m
    saying?” Video at 13:00. The government made repeated
    references to this statement throughout trial and closing
    arguments. The government argued to the jury that the
    (continued...)
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    he was going to explain “how this works.” Video at 13:00;
    R. 287, Tr. at 109. The agent then described the process
    of cooperation. Wysinger again tried to strike a deal to
    benefit his brother, but Agent Rehg made it clear that
    Tryd Wysinger’s fate was in the hands of the United
    States Attorney and the judge assigned to the case.
    At that point, Agent Rehg finally indicated that the
    “questioning” part of the meeting was commencing,
    stating, “Well, tell us what has been going on. Maybe that’s
    the best way to start.” Video at 13:03; R. 287, Tr. at 111.
    By indicating that this was “the best way to start,”
    Agent Rehg confirmed that this was the beginning of
    questioning, implying that the first nine minutes of
    the meeting did not constitute interrogation. This im-
    plication, of course, was contrary to the broad definition
    of interrogation adopted by the Supreme Court, which
    includes any words that the police should know are
    likely to elicit an incriminating response. 
    Innis, 446 U.S. at 300-01
    . For the first time since the interrogation began,
    Agent Rehg flipped open his notebook and pulled out
    a pen. At this, Wysinger seemed to recognize that “ques-
    tioning” was starting and he then clearly invoked his
    right to a lawyer as we concluded above.
    Although we have already determined that the court
    should have excluded the video from that point
    forward, we will recount the continued pattern of diver-
    10
    (...continued)
    “game” to which Wysinger referred is the “drug business.”
    R. 290, Tr. at 23.
    38                                              No. 10-3894
    sion because it relates to and supports Wysinger’s claim
    of misleading Miranda warnings. Rather than respond
    to Wysinger’s direct and immediate question of whether
    he could call an attorney at that instant, Agent Rehg
    again diverted Wysinger: he asked questions about the
    lawyer, gave some incorrect “advice” about whether
    Wysinger could use the same lawyer that his brother was
    using, and continued the interrogation for twenty-
    three more minutes. See 
    Lee, 413 F.3d at 627
    (expressing
    concern over police tactics of attempting to persuade
    suspect who had just invoked his right to counsel to
    give up his asserted right). During this time, Wysinger
    struggled to remember the name and phone number of
    the attorney, made a few more incriminating state-
    ments, asked the agents if they could retrieve the
    lawyer’s phone number from his van, and finally
    repeated yet again his desire to call the lawyer, asking
    the agent to get the number for him so that he could
    “call this attorney, get his advice.” Video at 13:07; R. 287,
    Tr. at 114.
    Agent Rehg himself testified at trial that when Wysinger
    said he did not want to cross any lines and then regret
    it, he understood that Wysinger did not wish to speak
    without an attorney:
    He wanted to work with us, he wanted to cooperate.
    He just didn’t want to tell us about his drug dealings
    at that time until he had an attorney with us. He
    didn’t want to cross the line, as he said, until he
    had an attorney.
    R. 287, Tr. at 125. Agent Rehg was interpreting a state-
    ment Wysinger made at time index 13:06, one minute
    No. 10-3894                                             39
    before Wysinger said, “I’m going to call this attorney,
    get his advice,” and some twenty minutes before the end
    of the video. Agent Rehg thus conceded that he under-
    stood that Wysinger had invoked his right to counsel no
    later than time index 13:06. If there was any doubt
    about the agent’s use of tactics intended to divert
    Wysinger from asserting his rights, Agent Rehg’s con-
    tinuation of interrogation after that moment demon-
    strated the strategy from the beginning. See 
    Smith, 469 U.S. at 98
    (the Edwards bright-line rule—that
    all questioning must stop after an accused requests
    counsel—prevents the police, through badgering or over-
    reaching, whether explicit or subtle, whether deliberate
    or unintentional, from wearing down the accused and
    persuading him to incriminate himself notwithstanding
    his earlier request for counsel).
    In sum, after Wysinger asked in the first minute of the
    interrogation if he should call a lawyer, Agent Rehg first
    told Wysinger that they were “going to talk about that,”
    and then read a potentially misleading version of his
    rights, one that put Wysinger to the false choice of
    talking to a lawyer before questioning or having a
    lawyer with him during questioning. Rather than cor-
    recting this error, the agent then magnified the mistake
    by repeatedly implying that “questioning” had not yet
    begun. The agent then narrowed Wysinger’s options
    even further, telling him he had two choices, namely
    cooperating or being charged with conspiracy. The
    agent failed to mention that Wysinger had two
    other options: to remain silent, or to consult a lawyer im-
    mediately and to have one with him during the inter-
    40                                              No. 10-3894
    rogation. When it was obvious to Wysinger that “ques-
    tioning” had begun, he immediately invoked his right
    to counsel.
    Even after Agent Rehg clearly recognized that Wysinger
    had asked for a lawyer, and after the agent permitted
    Wysinger to call an attorney, he continued to interrogate
    Wysinger and continued to compound the misimpres-
    sion he created by emphasizing “questioning” as the
    trigger for Miranda protections:
    The deal is this. If we decide to release you today,
    and again, I am not asking you questions. You want an
    attorney. Let me just give you some advice. If you have
    any hopes of cooperating, you need to leave it alone
    down here. Only person you can talk to down here
    is your attorney. Don’t be talking to anybody else,
    any of the guys that we’re talking to.
    Video at 13:21; R. 287, Tr. at 118-19 (emphasis added). The
    agent thus continued to draw a distinction between
    “questioning” and “advice,” both of which qualify as
    interrogation under well-established standards when
    the “advice” is likely to elicit an incriminating response.
    Wysinger, who had already shown agitation at the
    mention of cooperating witnesses, predictably reacted to
    this new reference, and threatened to “hurt somebody,” a
    threat that the government played up during the trial as
    evidence of Wysinger’s involvement in the conspiracy.
    Agent Rehg’s ensuing tactics, which may have been
    perfectly acceptable in the context of a proper warning,
    exacerbated the misimpression created by the botched
    warning.
    No. 10-3894                                               41
    “[T]he prosecution may not use statements, whether
    exculpatory or inculpatory, stemming from custodial
    interrogation of the defendant unless it demonstrates” the
    use of the Miranda safeguards. 
    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 444
    .
    See also Brown v. Illinois, 
    422 U.S. 590
    , 604 (1975)
    (the burden of showing admissibility rests on the pros-
    ecution). The government failed to meet its burden of
    demonstrating that proper Miranda warnings were
    given. Because the warning Agent Rehg gave applied
    only to “questioning,” because it erroneously suggested
    that Wysinger had to choose between having a lawyer
    present before questioning or during questioning, and
    because the agents used various tactics to confuse
    Wysinger regarding the start of “questioning” and
    divert him from exercising his rights, we agree that the
    warning was inadequate and misleading. The district
    court, therefore, should have excluded the first nine
    minutes of the videotaped interrogation. Combined with
    our prior conclusion that everything after Wysinger
    invoked his right to counsel should have been ex-
    cluded, this leads to our conclusion that the entire video-
    taped interrogation was inadmissible.
    C.
    The government contends that, if there was any error
    in admitting the video, the error was harmless. An
    error is harmless if it “does not affect substantial rights.”
    Fed. R. Crim. P. 52(a). “To be harmless, an error must
    have no affect [sic] on the outcome of the trial.” Lee, 413
    42                                            No. 10-3894
    F.3d at 627. The government asserts that, even absent the
    video, the evidence at trial establishing Wysinger’s
    guilt was “overwhelming.” The government cites the
    testimony of the three cooperating co-conspirators,
    Montez Douglas, Keith Holmes and Sebastion Robinson.
    The government also points to the money and drugs
    seized from others in the conspiracy, including the
    $54,000 that Wysinger claimed as his own in his post-
    holiday call with Agent Rehg. The government also
    argues that Wysinger never confessed to being a drug
    dealer on the video, lessening any prejudicial effect.
    We cannot agree that the other evidence was overwhelm-
    ing. The vast majority of the evidence against Wysinger
    came from cooperating co-conspirators who each had
    strong motives to lie and to cast blame away from them-
    selves. Both Holmes and Robinson, for example, had
    been caught with drugs and/or large amounts of cash.
    Unlike the witnesses against him, Wysinger was not
    personally found in possession of drugs or large
    amounts of cash. And Wysinger was never tied to the
    cell phone used to make the calls that the government
    asserted connected him to drugs or money. True, someone
    claiming to be Wysinger called Agent Rehg to claim
    ownership of the $54,000 seized from Tryd’s van. But
    without the video, the only evidence connecting
    Wysinger to that call is Agent Rehg’s voice identification
    of Wysinger. That recorded call was clearly important
    to the jury, as it was one of two pieces of evidence that
    the jury requested to review during deliberations.
    Moreover, the government’s claim that the prejudicial
    effect of the video was diminished because Wysinger
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    did not admit to being a drug dealer is belied by the
    government’s use of the video at trial, and by its ob-
    vious importance to the jury. See 
    Innis, 446 U.S. at 301
    n.5 (defining “incriminating response” as “any re-
    sponse—whether inculpatory or exculpatory—that the
    prosecution may seek to introduce at trial”) (emphasis
    in original); 
    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 476-77
    (“No distinc-
    tion can be drawn between statements which are
    direct confessions and statements which amount to ‘ad-
    missions’ of part or all of an offense. The privilege
    against self-incrimination protects the individual from
    being compelled to incriminate himself in any manner;
    it does not distinguish degrees of incrimination.”). At
    trial, the government first showed the video once in its
    entirety and then displayed two segments of the video
    again during Agent Rehg’s testimony. In particular, the
    government replayed the part of the video where
    Wysinger said, “There’s a whole lot of motherfuckers
    in Texas I do not like. . . . And I tell motherfuckers, in
    this game, you don’t fuck with those people, ‘cause
    you make enemies. You know what I’m saying? You
    always keep the motherfucker happy if you doing this
    type of shit ‘cause the motherfucker come back to
    haunt you.” Agent Rehg explained that he understood
    Wysinger to mean that he might be willing to cooperate
    against certain individuals in Texas he did not like, and
    that the “game” in Wysinger’s statement is the “drug
    game.” R. 287, Tr. at 124. In total, the government
    managed to refer to this statement no fewer than six
    times during the trial, and the jury was exposed to it
    a seventh time when the video was replayed during
    44                                              No. 10-3894
    deliberations. In addition to showing the statement to
    the jury twice during Agent Rehg’s testimony, Agent
    Rehg paraphrased the statement, and the government
    mentioned it once during closing argument and twice
    more during rebuttal.
    The government also replayed Wysinger’s statement
    indicating he was considering cooperating:
    I just don’t want to cross no lines, and then, you
    know what I’m saying, regret shit. I mean, I want to
    work with you. You know what I’m saying?
    Video at 13:06; R. 287, Tr. at 113 and 125. Agent Rehg
    explained that he understood Wysinger to mean that he
    wanted to cooperate but did not want to discuss his drug
    dealing until he had an attorney present. R. 287, Tr. at 125.
    In addition to two playings during trial and one during
    deliberations, the government mentioned Wysinger’s
    reference to possible cooperation during closing argu-
    ments as well. Given the prominence the government
    gave to these and other statements from the interroga-
    tion at trial, and given that the jury itself accorded
    special importance to the video, the error in admitting
    the video likely affected the outcome of the trial and
    thus was not harmless.
    D.
    Wysinger also argues that admitting the portions of
    the video during which Wysinger spoke to his attorney
    on the phone violated a Sixth Amendment right to
    private and confidential communication with his attor-
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    ney. The government contends that Wysinger waived
    this claim by not raising it below. Because we have
    already ruled that this portion of the video should
    have been excluded because Wysinger had clearly
    invoked his right to counsel under Miranda, we need
    not address either the claim of waiver or the merits of
    the issue.
    III.
    For the reasons stated above, we vacate Wysinger’s
    conviction and remand for proceedings consistent with
    this opinion. Any retrial may not include any part of
    the video in the government’s case-in-chief. We thank
    Wysinger’s appointed counsel for their vigorous ad-
    vocacy on his behalf.
    V ACATED AND R EMANDED.
    6-22-12
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 10-3894

Citation Numbers: 683 F.3d 784

Judges: Manion, Rovner, Tinder

Filed Date: 6/22/2012

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 8/5/2023

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