in the Interest of A.R. and A.R., Children ( 2022 )


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  •                In the
    Court of Appeals
    Second Appellate District of Texas
    at Fort Worth
    ___________________________
    No. 02-21-00449-CV
    ___________________________
    IN THE INTEREST OF A.R. AND A.R., CHILDREN
    On Appeal from the 467th District Court
    Denton County, Texas
    Trial Court No. 15-10810-16
    Before Kerr, Birdwell, and Womack, JJ.
    Memorandum Opinion by Justice Womack
    MEMORANDUM OPINION
    I. INTRODUCTION
    This appeal concerns a suit affecting the parent–child relationship (SAPCR)
    involving Appellant G.M. (Mother), Appellee M.R. (Father), and their two children,
    A.R. and A.R. (collectively, the Children). In two issues, Mother complains about a
    final order entered in the SAPCR following a two-day trial in May 2021 (the 2021
    Order) and an order sealing the reporter’s record of an interview between the trial
    court1 and the Children (the Sealing Order). In her first issue, Mother argues that the
    2021 Order is void because a final order had already been signed in the SAPCR,
    referring us to an order signed in March 2018 (the 2018 Order).2 In her second issue,
    Mother complains that the Sealing Order is void and that the trial court abused its
    discretion by signing the Sealing Order.
    As to Mother’s first issue, we will hold that the 2018 Order is not a final order
    because it does not state with unmistakable clarity that it is a final order as to all
    claims and all parties and because, regardless of its language, it does not actually
    dispose of all claims and parties. As to Mother’s second issue, we will hold that the
    Sealing Order is not void, that the trial court did not abuse its discretion by entering it,
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    This SAPCR originally proceeded in the 16th District Court of Denton
    County; it was later transferred to the 462nd District Court of Denton County; and it
    was ultimately transferred to the 467th District Court of Denton County. We will
    refer to the 467th District Court—the court that presided over the two-day trial and
    that entered the 2021 Order and the Sealing Order—as the “trial court.”
    The 2018 Order was signed by the presiding judge of the 16th District Court.
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    and that even if the trial court had abused its discretion, Mother has not demonstrated
    harm. We will thus affirm.
    II. BACKGROUND
    A. Mother and Father Divorce, and Mother Seeks to Modify the Divorce
    Decree
    In 2016, Mother and Father divorced in the underlying SAPCR. At that time,
    the SAPCR was litigated in the 16th District Court of Denton County. Pursuant to
    the divorce decree, Mother and Father were appointed joint managing conservators of
    the Children, with Mother having the exclusive right to designate the Children’s
    primary residence, and Father being ordered to pay child support to Mother.3
    In 2017, Mother filed a petition seeking to modify the 2016 divorce decree.
    Through her petition, Mother sought, among other things, to modify Father’s child-
    support obligations, to modify the geographic area in which the Children’s primary
    residence could be maintained, and to order Father to pay Mother’s attorney’s fees.
    Father answered Mother’s petition and sought his attorney’s fees.
    A month after Father answered Mother’s petition, Father and Mother signed a
    “Mediated Settlement Agreement on Temporary Orders” (the Settlement Agreement
    on Temporary Orders).        Pursuant to the Settlement Agreement on Temporary
    Orders, Father’s child-support obligations were discontinued, Mother was only
    Mother and Father both signed the divorce decree, acknowledging that they
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    “approved and consented to [the decree] as to both form and substance.”
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    allowed supervised periods of possession with the Children, and the parties agreed to
    a child-custody evaluation.
    B. The 2018 Order
    In March 2018, after considering the Settlement Agreement on Temporary
    Orders, the presiding judge of the 16th District Court signed the 2018 Order. The
    2018 Order was titled “Agreed Order for Termination of Child Support Payments.”
    The 2018 Order—which Mother now contends is a final order—states:
    On this day, the Court considered the agreement of the parties on the
    termination of child support and the recovery of child support payments
    made in excess of the child support order.
    1.       Appearances
    [Mother] did not appear in person but has agreed to the terms of
    this order as evidenced by [her] signature below.
    [Father] has agreed to the terms of this order as evidenced by [his]
    signature appearing below.
    2.       Jurisdiction
    The Court, after examining the record and the agreement of the
    parties and hearing the evidence, finds that all necessary prerequisites of
    the law have been legally satisfied and that the Court has jurisdiction of
    this case and of all the parties.
    3.       Record
    A record of the testimony was waived with the consent of the
    Court.
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    4.     Findings
    The Court finds that [Father] is not in arrears and that [Father’s]
    obligation to pay child support to [Mother] has terminated, pursuant to
    the [Settlement Agreement on Temporary Orders] signed by the parties
    on November 28, 2017.
    5.     Judgment
    IT IS ORDERED that [Father’s] obligation to pay child support
    was terminated on November 28, 2017.
    6.     Relief Not Granted
    IT IS ORDERED that all relief requested in this case and not
    expressly granted is denied.
    The 2018 Order contains the signature of the presiding judge of the 16th District
    Court, along with the signatures of the parties’ respective attorneys under a heading
    stating, “Approved as to Form Only.”
    The same day that the 2018 Order was signed, the presiding judge of the 16th
    District Court also signed an “Order for Child Custody Evaluation.” That order
    appointed a child custody evaluator, required the parties to contact the child custody
    evaluator within ten business days of the order, and ordered the child custody
    evaluator to conduct an evaluation regarding the custody of the Children and prepare
    a report regarding his findings.
    C. The SAPCR Moves Toward Trial Following the 2018 Order, and the 2021
    Order is Signed After a Two-Day Bench Trial
    In January 2019, the SAPCR was transferred from the 16th District Court to
    the 462nd District Court. In April 2019—over a year after the 2018 Order was
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    signed—Mother filed a “Motion for Pre-Trial Conference” in the SAPCR, in which
    she requested that the 462nd District Court “set this matter for a Pre-Trial
    Conference for the purpose of scheduling a final trial date and issuing a Discovery
    Control Plan and Scheduling Order.” In September 2019, Mother filed a motion to
    modify the scheduling order and discovery control plan, and in October 2019, Mother
    requested a jury trial.
    In March 2020, Father filed a counterpetition to modify the 2016 divorce
    decree. Father requested, among other things, that Mother be ordered to pay him
    child support and that he be given the rights and duties of a sole managing
    conservator, contending that Mother had engaged in “a history or pattern of child
    neglect/abuse.” Mother filed a general denial to Father’s counterpetition and later
    filed an amended petition to modify.
    In January 2021, the SAPCR was transferred from the 462nd District Court to
    the 467th District Court. In May 2021, the 467th District Court conducted a two-day
    bench trial in the SAPCR. The trial court ultimately signed the 2021 Order following
    trial. The 2021 Order modified Mother and Father’s divorce decree, and it ordered,
    among other things, that Mother pay Father child support, that Mother and Father
    remain joint managing conservators of the Children, and that Father have the
    exclusive right to designate the Children’s primary residence within certain counties.
    Mother appeals from the 2021 Order.
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    D. The Sealing Order
    Nine months before trial, Mother filed a “Motion for Judge to Confer with
    Children,” in which she requested that the trial judge “confer with [the Children], in
    chambers, to determine the [C]hildren’s wishes as to which parent shall have the
    exclusive right to designate the [C]hildren’s primary residence and the [C]hildren’s
    wishes regarding each party’s possession of and access to the [C]hildren.”4 Later, at
    the trial’s conclusion, the trial court granted Mother’s request to interview the
    Children. Father’s counsel requested that a record be made of the interview, and the
    trial court indicated that a court reporter would be present for the interview. The trial
    court later interviewed the Children in chambers, and a reporter’s record was made of
    the interview.
    On July 6, 2021, Mother filed a motion requesting that the trial court order the
    court reporter to release a copy of the reporter’s record of the trial court’s interview
    of the Children.5 On July 9, 2021—three days after Mother filed her motion to
    release the reporter’s record—the trial court signed the Sealing Order. The Sealing
    Order states, in pertinent part, “The Court finds that good cause exist[s] to seal the
    Court’s record/Court Reporter’s record of the Court’s interview with the [C]hildren.
    The month before trial, Mother filed an “Amended Motion for Judge to
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    Confer with Children,” again requesting that the trial judge interview the Children in
    chambers.
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    A docket entry from May 17, 2021—the date the trial court interviewed the
    Children—states, “Court interviewed both children. Record sealed.”
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    Therefore, the Court ORDERS that the Court’s Record/Court Reporter’s record of
    the Court’s interview with the [Children] shall be sealed.” In October 2021, following
    a hearing on Mother’s motion to release the reporter’s record of the trial court’s
    interview with the Children, the trial court denied Mother’s motion.
    While the case was pending on appeal, Mother’s attorney moved that we
    release the reporter’s record of the trial court’s interview with the Children to
    Mother’s attorney. We granted the motion, allowing Mother’s attorney to obtain a
    copy of the reporter’s record of the interview provided that he sign an affidavit in
    which he agreed to abide by the Sealing Order and that he would “not reveal the
    contents of these records to any person not authorized by the court.” Mother’s
    attorney later signed the affidavit and checked out the reporter’s record of the
    interview.
    III. DISCUSSION
    A. Mother’s Complaint that the 2021 Order is Void Because of the 2018 Order
    In her first issue, Mother argues that the 2021 Order is void because the 2018
    Order was a final order, and, therefore, the trial court’s plenary power had expired by
    the time it signed the 2021 Order.
    1. Standard of Review
    Whether an order is final impacts jurisdiction and is a legal question we review
    de novo. Shetwey v. Mediation Inst. of N. Tex., LLC, 
    624 S.W.3d 285
    , 287 (Tex. App.—
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    Fort Worth 2021, no pet.); Redwine v. Pekinpaugh, 
    535 S.W.3d 44
    , 48 (Tex. App.—Tyler
    2017, no pet.).
    2. We Reject Father’s Argument that Mother has Waived Her First Issue
    and Should Be Estopped from Bringing Her First Issue
    As a preliminary matter, we will briefly address Father’s argument that Mother
    has waived her first issue and should be estopped from bringing her first issue.
    Mother’s first issue implicates the trial court’s subject-matter jurisdiction because
    Mother contends that the 2021 Order was signed after the trial court had lost plenary
    power. See Tex. Dep’t of Pub. Safety v. LaRoussi, 
    192 S.W.3d 637
    , 640 (Tex. App.—Tyler
    2006, no pet.) (“Orders issued after the expiration of a trial court’s plenary power are
    void for lack of subject[-]matter jurisdiction.”). Subject-matter jurisdiction cannot be
    waived and can be raised at any time. Alfonso v. Skadden, 
    251 S.W.3d 52
    , 55 (Tex.
    2008); City of Fort Worth v. Shilling, 
    266 S.W.3d 97
    , 105 n.6 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth
    2008, pet. denied). Accordingly, we reject Father’s argument that Mother has waived
    her first issue.
    Father also argues that Mother should be estopped from bringing her first
    issue. But just as subject-matter jurisdiction cannot be waived, it also cannot be
    conferred by estoppel. Wilmer-Hutchins Indep. Sch. Dist. v. Sullivan, 
    51 S.W.3d 293
    , 294
    (Tex. 2001); Comptroller v. Landsfeld, 
    352 S.W.3d 171
    , 174 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth
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    2011, pet. denied). Accordingly, we reject Father’s argument that Mother should be
    estopped from bringing her first issue.6
    3. The Law Regarding Finality
    As a general rule, only one final judgment may be rendered in any case. See
    Tex. R. Civ. P. 301. The entry of a second judgment does not automatically vacate
    the first judgment, and if there is nothing in the record to show that the first judgment
    was vacated, the second judgment is a nullity. Thompson v. Ballard, 
    149 S.W.3d 161
    ,
    166 (Tex. App.—Tyler 2004, no pet.); Exxon Corp. v. Garza, 
    981 S.W.2d 415
    , 419
    (Tex. App.—San Antonio 1998, pet. denied).
    Absent a conventional trial on the merits, a judgment is final if it either
    (1) states with unmistakable clarity that it is a final judgment as to all claims and all
    parties or (2) actually disposes of all claims and parties then before the court,
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    Father also contends that Mother has inadequately briefed her appellate
    complaints, pointing out that the argument section of Mother’s brief “only makes a
    single reference to . . . either the clerk’s or reporter’s record.” Texas Rule of Appellate
    Procedure 38.1(i) requires an appellate brief to contain “a clear and concise argument
    for the contentions made, with appropriate citations to authorities and to the record.”
    Tex. R. App. P. 38.1(i). Failure to comply with Rule 38.1(i) may result in waiver of an
    appellate claim, yet we must construe the Texas Rules of Appellate Procedure
    “reasonably, yet liberally, so that the right to appeal is not lost by imposing
    requirements not absolutely necessary to enforce the rules.” Fed. Corp., Inc. v. Truhlar,
    
    632 S.W.3d 697
    , 725 (Tex. App.—El Paso 2021, pet. denied). Here, while the
    argument section of Mother’s brief contains scant citation to the record, we note that
    the statement-of-facts section of Mother’s brief contains many citations to the record.
    In any event, we have had no difficulty identifying the pleadings and orders that
    control this appeal, and in the interest of justice, we will consider Mother’s complaints
    on their merits. See Bolanos v. Purple Goat, LLC, 
    649 S.W.3d 753
    , 758 (Tex. App.—El
    Paso 2022, no pet.) (addressing an appellate complaint in the interest of justice despite
    party’s inadequate brief that lacked appropriate record citations).
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    regardless of its language. Lehmann v. Har-Con Corp., 
    39 S.W.3d 191
    , 192–93 (Tex.
    2001). In determining whether an order is a final judgment, we should first examine
    the language of the order itself. In re Elizondo, 
    544 S.W.3d 824
    , 827–28 (Tex. 2018)
    (orig. proceeding) (citing Lehmann, 39 S.W.3d at 195, 205–06); In re M & O
    Homebuilders, Inc., 
    516 S.W.3d 101
    , 106 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2017, orig.
    proceeding). If the order does not clearly and unequivocally indicate finality, we then
    look at the record to determine finality. Elizondo, 544 S.W.3d at 827–28; M & O
    Homebuilders, Inc., 
    516 S.W.3d at 106
    .
    Although no “magic language” renders a judgment final, “a trial court may
    express its intent to render a final judgment by describing its action as (1) final, (2) a
    disposition of all claims and parties, and (3) appealable.” Bella Palma, LLC v. Young,
    
    601 S.W.3d 799
    , 801 (Tex. 2020). Examples of clear and unequivocal finality language
    include:   “This judgment finally disposes of all parties and all claims and is
    appealable,” Lehmann, 39 S.W.3d at 206, and “This judgment is final, disposes of all
    claims and all parties, and is appealable,” Elizondo, 544 S.W.3d at 825.
    4. Analysis
    a.   The 2018 Order Does Not Contain Clear and Unequivocal
    Finality Language
    Mother argues that finality is clear and unequivocal on the face of the 2018
    Order. We disagree. The 2018 Order does not contain any language indicating that it
    is a final and appealable disposition of all claims and parties. See Bella Palma, LLC, 601
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    S.W.3d at 801. While no “magic language” is required, nothing in the 2018 Order
    comes close to the examples offered in Elizondo and Lehmann to indicate finality. See
    Elizondo, 544 S.W.3d at 825 (“This judgment is final, disposes of all claims and all
    parties, and is appealable.”); Lehmann, 39 S.W.3d at 206 (“This judgment finally
    disposes of all parties and all claims and is appealable.”).
    To support her argument regarding finality, Mother points to the fact that
    (1) the parties agreed to the order, (2) the order contained a jurisdictional statement,
    (3) the order reflected that the parties had waived a record, (4) the order stated that
    Father’s obligation to pay child support had terminated, (5) the order had a heading
    called “Judgment,” and (6) the order included a Mother Hubbard clause stating that
    “all relief requested in this case and not expressly granted is denied.” But none of
    these facts, even when taken together, gives unmistakable clarity regarding whether
    the 2018 Order is final. Parties can agree to interlocutory orders just as they can agree
    to final judgments; interlocutory orders can contain jurisdictional statements; and
    parties can waive a record of a hearing on an interlocutory order. And while the 2018
    Order references the termination of Father’s child-support obligations, it only does so
    by referring to the parties’ Settlement Agreement on Temporary Orders.
    Moreover, the mere heading called “Judgment” in the 2018 Order does not
    indicate finality. See Lehmann, 39 S.W.3d at 205 (“An order does not dispose of all
    claims and all parties merely because it is entitled ‘final’, or because the word ‘final’
    appears elsewhere in the order.”); Jesse James Fitness, LLC v. Stiles, No. 02-19-00417-
    12
    CV, 
    2020 WL 827605
    , at *1 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Feb. 20, 2020, no pet.) (mem.
    op.) (“Including the word ‘final’ in the title or elsewhere in the order, awarding costs,
    or stating that the order or judgment is appealable is not necessarily language of
    sufficient clarity to make it final for purposes of appeal.”). As to the Mother Hubbard
    clause’s inclusion, the Texas Supreme Court has held that “the inclusion of a Mother
    Hubbard clause . . . does not indicate that a judgment rendered without a
    conventional trial is final for purposes of appeal.” Lehmann, 39 S.W.3d at 203–04.
    The Texas Supreme Court has reasoned that Mother Hubbard clauses give no
    indication of finality because they are “used in interlocutory orders so frequently” and
    because they are “inherently ambiguous.” Id. at 204, 206.
    The 2018 Order’s failure to include certain information required by Family
    Code Section 105.006 further indicates that the 2018 Order lacks finality. Section
    105.006 “establishes specific requirements for final orders in suits affecting the
    parent[–]child relationship.” In re R.R.K., 
    590 S.W.3d 535
    , 539 (Tex. 2019). Final
    orders in such cases must contain, among other things, the social security number and
    driver’s license number of each party to the suit; each party’s current residence
    address, mailing address, home telephone number, name of employer, address of
    employment, and work telephone number; and certain statutory warnings stating the
    legal consequences for failing to comply with the order. 
    Tex. Fam. Code Ann. § 105.006
    (a), (d), (e). While “[a] failure to comply with every aspect of [S]ection
    105.006 is not fatal to finality[,] when finality is contested, and the order lacks required
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    statutory elements, a reviewing court should examine the record to determine finality
    under Lehmann and its progeny.” R.R.K., 590 S.W.3d at 542. Indeed, “omissions of
    elements required by [S]ection 105.006 raise doubt about an order’s finality.” Id. at
    542–43.
    Based on our de novo review of the face of the 2018 Order, we hold that the
    2018 Order does not state with unmistakable clarity that it is a final and appealable
    order as to all claims and all parties. See Bella Palma, LLC, 601 S.W.3d at 801;
    Lehmann, 39 S.W.3d at 192–93.
    b. The Record Does Not Demonstrate That the 2018 Order is
    Final
    Because the 2018 Order does not contain unambiguous language of finality, we
    next examine the record to determine whether every pending claim and party was
    disposed of when the 2018 Order was signed. See Elizondo, 544 S.W.3d at 827–28;
    M & O Homebuilders, Inc., 
    516 S.W.3d at 106
    .
    While Mother candidly admits that “the record demonstrates . . . that neither
    the parties nor the trial court intended the [2018 Order] to be final,” she argues that
    “their intent is not the inquiry” and that the record supports finality. We disagree
    with Mother’s contention that the record supports finality. Here, on the same day
    that the presiding judge of the 16th District Court signed the 2018 Order, the same
    judge signed an “Order for Child Custody Evaluation.” That order contemplated
    future steps to be taken by both the parties and the child custody evaluator in the
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    case. More importantly, the SAPCR continued for more than three years, culminating
    in a two-day bench trial. During those years, Father filed his counterpetition to
    modify the divorce decree, Mother filed an amended petition to modify, and the case
    was transferred to other district courts.
    Mother also took steps to move the case toward trial, including requesting a
    pre-trial conference, requesting the modification of a scheduling order and discovery
    control plan, and requesting a jury trial. If the 2018 Order disposed of every claim
    and party, as Mother now contends, none of these steps would have been necessary,
    nor would there have been the need for a trial in 2021. See Vaughn v. Drennon,
    
    324 S.W.3d 560
    , 563 (Tex. 2010) (“When the Vaughns did not receive notice of the
    signed judgment, they filed a motion to extend the period for filing a motion for new
    trial and notice of appeal . . . , which the trial court granted. Such a motion would not
    be necessary, nor would it be granted, were the judgment not believed to be final by
    both the Vaughns and the trial court.”).
    Based on our de novo review of the record, we hold that the 2018 Order did
    not actually dispose of all claims and parties then before the court. See Lehmann,
    39 S.W.3d at 192–93. We thus overrule Mother’s first issue.
    B. Mother’s Complaint Regarding the Sealing Order
    In her second issue, Mother complains that the Sealing Order is void and that
    the trial court abused its discretion by signing the Sealing Order.
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    1. The Sealing Order is Not Void
    Harking back to her first issue, Mother claims that the Sealing Order is void
    because the 2018 Order is a final order, and, therefore, the trial court lost its plenary
    power in 2018 to make other orders, such as the Sealing Order. But we have already
    determined that the 2018 Order is not a final order, and we thus overrule this aspect
    of Mother’s second issue.
    Mother next complains—in two sentences—that even if we determine that the
    2018 Order is not a final order, the Sealing Order is still void because it was not
    included in the 2021 Order. According to Mother, this somehow violates the “one
    final order rule.” See Tex. R. Civ. P. 301 (“Only one final judgment shall be rendered
    in any cause except where it is otherwise specially provided by law.”). But Mother
    provides no authority or explanation for her proposition that the failure to include the
    Sealing Order in the 2021 Order somehow violates the “one final order rule,” and we
    have found none. To the contrary, Texas law makes clear that the Sealing Order was
    merged into and subsumed by the 2021 Order. See Ford v. Ruth, No. 03-14-00460-CV,
    
    2016 WL 1305209
    , at *3 (Tex. App.—Austin Mar. 31, 2016, pet. denied) (mem. op.)
    (“When a final judgment resolves all claims in a case, any previous interlocutory
    judgment or order is merged into that final judgment.”); Toles v. Toles, 
    113 S.W.3d 899
    ,
    914 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2003, no pet.) (“All prior interlocutory orders of the divorce
    court were merged into and subsumed by the final judgment.”), abrogated on other
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    grounds by Cantey Hanger, LLP v. Byrd, 
    467 S.W.3d 477
     (Tex. 2015). We thus overrule
    this aspect of Mother’s second issue.
    2. The Trial Court Did Not Abuse Its Discretion by Signing the Sealing
    Order, and Even if It Did, Mother Has Not Demonstrated Harm
    Mother next complains that even if the Sealing Order is not void, the trial court
    abused its discretion7 and denied her due process by entering the Sealing Order sua
    sponte without a hearing and with no party being given the opportunity to contest it.
    We note, however, that Mother filed a motion requesting that the trial court order the
    trial court reporter to release a copy of the reporter’s record of the trial court’s
    interview of the Children. And a hearing was later held on that motion, and the trial
    court denied it. Thus, we cannot say that the trial court abused its discretion or that
    Mother was denied due process with respect to the Sealing Order.
    Even if the trial court abused its discretion with respect to the Sealing Order,
    Mother has not demonstrated harm. To obtain reversal of a judgment based on an
    error in the trial court, an appellant must show that the error occurred and that it
    probably caused rendition of an improper judgment or probably prevented the
    appellant from properly presenting the case to this court. Tex. R. App. P. 44.1(a);
    Romero v. KPH Consolidation, Inc., 
    166 S.W.3d 212
    , 225 (Tex. 2005). Here, Mother has
    offered no proof or argument indicating that she has been harmed by the Sealing
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    We review a trial court’s sealing decisions for an abuse of discretion. Witt v.
    Michelin N. Am., Inc., No. 02-18-00390-CV, 
    2020 WL 5415228
    , at *9 (Tex. App.—Fort
    Worth Sept. 10, 2020, no pet.) (mem. op.).
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    Order, and we gave Mother’s counsel the opportunity to review the reporter’s record
    of the trial court’s interview with the Children prior to the due date for Mother’s brief,
    an opportunity that Mother’s counsel accepted. Despite that opportunity, Mother has
    not shown any harm to her from the Sealing Order. Thus, based on our review of the
    record, even if the trial court abused its discretion with respect to the Sealing Order,
    we cannot conclude that such abuse of discretion caused harm and resulted in an
    improper judgment. See also In re Marriage of Comstock, 
    639 S.W.3d 118
    , 135 (Tex.
    App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2021, no pet.) (concluding that trial court’s error in failing
    to ensure the recording of its interviews with children was harmless, noting the trial
    court’s “broad discretion in making conservatorship and possession determinations”
    and stating the trial court “may choose to either take into account the information
    learned at such an interview . . . or ignore it in its entirety”) (internal quotations
    omitted). We thus overrule Mother’s second issue in its entirety.8
    IV. CONCLUSION
    Having overruled Mother’s two issues, we affirm the trial court’s 2021 Order.
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    Mother also asks us to clarify the Sealing Order, contending that our order
    authorizing her counsel to check out the reporter’s record of the trial court’s interview
    of the Children and to “not reveal the contents of these records to any person not
    authorized by the court” added “extreme uncertainty as to what the [S]ealing [O]rder
    even does.” We decline Mother’s invitation to clarify the Sealing Order, as we are
    prohibited from issuing advisory opinions. See Tex. Ass’n of Bus. v. Tex. Air. Control
    Bd., 
    852 S.W.2d 440
    , 444 (Tex. 1993) (noting that “[t]he distinctive feature of an
    advisory opinion is that it decides an abstract question of law without binding the
    parties” and that “Texas courts . . . have no jurisdiction to render such opinions”).
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    /s/ Dana Womack
    Dana Womack
    Justice
    Delivered: November 23, 2022
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