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  •                           NO. PD-1173-15
    _________________________________________________________________
    IN THE
    COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS
    OF TEXAS
    MICKEY LEE BATES
    V.
    THE STATE OF TEXAS
    ON DISCRETIONARY REVIEW FROM THE
    COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE
    SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF TEXAS
    CAUSE NUMBER 06-14-00096-CR
    APPEALED FROM THE
    SIXTH DISTRICT COURT
    OF LAMAR COUNTY, TEXAS
    CAUSE NUMBER 25346
    PETITION FOR DISCRETIONARY REVIEW
    Gary L. Waite
    State Bar No. 20667500
    104 Lamar Ave.
    Paris, Texas 75460
    Telephone (903) 785 - 0096
    Fax: (903) 785-0097
    ATTORNEY FOR THE PETITIONER
    September 30, 2015
    LIST OF PARTIES
    APPELLANT
    MICKEY LEE BATES
    ATTORNEY FOR THE APPELLANT AT TRIAL
    DIANE SPRAGUE
    ATTORNEY AT LAW
    9 W. Houston Street
    Paris, Tx 75460
    Tel: 903-249-6271
    Fax: 903-782-9771
    ATTORNEY FOR APPELLANT ON APPEAL
    GARY L. WAITE
    104 LAMAR AVE.
    PARIS, TEXAS 75460
    Tel: 903 - 785 - 0096
    Fax: 903-785-0097
    APPELLEE;
    THE STATE OF TEXAS
    JILL DRAKE
    ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY
    119 NORTH MAIN STREET
    PARIS, TEXAS 75460
    903-737-2413
    ELECTED DISTRICT AND COUNTY ATTORNEY
    GARY D. YOUNG
    119 N. MAIN
    PARIS, TEXAS 75460
    903-737-2413
    ii
    TABLE OF CONTENTS
    LIST OF PARTIES. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .ii
    TABLE OF CONTENTS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .iii-iv
    INDEX OF AUTHORITIES . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . v
    STATEMENT REGARDING ORAL ARGUMENT. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1
    STATEMENT OF THE CASE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-2
    STATEMENT OF PROCEDURAL HISTORY. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2
    ABBREVIATIONS AND REFERENCES. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2
    GROUNDS FOR REVIEW . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2-3
    GROUND ONE (Restated). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3
    The Court of Appeals, having found that it was error to admit a sound recording before the jury
    erred in it’s finding that the admission of these recordings was harmless beyond a reasonable
    doubt.
    GROUND TWO (Restated) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . 3
    The Court of Appeals, having found that appellant was denied his right to confront the
    witnesses against him including the right of physical presence of the witness before the jury,
    erred in it’s finding that these serious constitutional errors were harmless beyond a reasonable
    doubt.
    REASON FOR REVIEW AND ARGUMENT UNDER GROUND
    ONE AND TWO. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3-5
    GROUND THREE (Restated) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .5-6
    The Court of Appeals, having found that the trial court erred in admitting into evidence
    statement made to officers by the appellant while under arrest was a violation of Miranda, erred
    in it’s finding that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
    REASON FOR REVIEW AND ARGUMENT UNDER GROUND THREE . . . . . . . . . . . .. . 6-7
    CONCLUSION AND PRAYER. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
    CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8
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    CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
    APPENDIX A - COURT OF APPEALS OPINION
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    INDEX OF AUTHORITIES
    CASES
    Crawford v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
    (2004). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5
    Dowthitt v. State, 
    931 S.W.2d 244
    (Tex. Crim. App. 1996). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .7
    Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    (1966). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . 6
    Scott v. State, 
    227 S.W.3d 670
    , 690 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5
    Snowden v. State, 
    353 S.W.3d 815
    , 822 (Tex. Crim. App. 2011). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .6-7
    RULES AND STATUTES
    Tex R. App. P. 44.2(a). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5
    Tex R. App. P. 66.3 (d). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3,6
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    NO. PD-1173-15
    TO THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS
    OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
    MICKEY LEE BATES, PETITIONER
    V.
    THE STATE OF TEXAS, RESPONDENT APPELLANT’S
    PETITION FOR DISCRETIONARY REVIEW
    TO THE HONORABLE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS:
    Comes now the Petitioner, Mickey Lee Bates, and respectfully urges this Court to grant his
    Petition for Discretionary Review of the above styled cause, pursuant to the rules of the Court.
    STATEMENT REGARDING ORAL ARGUMENT
    Petitioner believes that oral argument would assist the Court in explication and disposition
    of the issues presented in this petition, and presents unique and interesting issues. Therefore,
    Petitioner respectfully requests oral argument.
    STATEMENT OF THE CASE
    Appellant was charged by indictment with the offense of Aggravated Assault with a
    Deadly Weapon, a second degree felony, enhanced by one prior conviction, in Cause No. 25346,
    in the 6th District Court of Lamar County, Texas (Clerk’s Record [CR], p. 7). After a jury trial,
    he was sentenced to ten (10) years in the Institutional Division, Texas Department of Criminal
    Justice (TDCJ) on April 24, 2014 ( CR, pp. 55-56).
    Appellant gave timely notice of appeal, filed with the clerk on May 7, 2014 (CR, p. 58).
    Appellate counsel was appointed by the trial court on May 13, 2014 (CR, p. 59).
    The Court of Appeals affirmed the conviction on June 17, 2015. Appellant filed a Motion
    for Rehearing which was overruled on August 11, 2015.
    STATEMENT OF PROCEDURAL HISTORY
    (1)Date of opinion from Court of Appeals:         June 17, 2015
    (2)Date of Motion for Rehearing:                  July 31, 2015
    (3)Date Motion for Rehearing Disposed              August 11, 2015
    (4)Motion for Extension of Time to File
    Petition for Discretionary Appeals               September 9, 2015
    (5)Petition for Discretionary Review Due:         October 12, 2015
    ABBREVIATIONS AND REFERENCES
    The Reporter’s Record (RR) is referenced by volume (vol) page (p); line (l) as follows:
    (RR, vol 3, p 171, l. 24).
    The Clerk’s Record(CR) is referenced by page (p) as follows (CR, pp. 9-10)
    The Court of Appeals Opinion is referenced as Slip Op., then page number (e.g. Slip Op.,
    p. 16).
    GROUNDS FOR REVIEW
    GROUND ONE
    The Court of Appeals, having found that it was error to admit a sound recording before the jury
    erred in it’s finding that the admission of these recordings was harmless beyond a reasonable
    doubt.
    GROUND TWO
    The Court of Appeals, having found that appellant was denied his right to confront the witnesses
    against him including the right of physical presence of the witness before the jury, erred in it’s
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    finding that these serious constitutional errors were harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
    GROUND THREE
    The Court of Appeals is correct in it’s finding that trial court erred in admitting into evidence
    statement made to officers by the appellant while under arrest in violation of Miranda. However,
    the Court erred in it’s finding that the serious constitutional error was harmless beyond a
    reasonable doubt.
    GROUND ONE (RESTATED)
    The Court of Appeals, having found that it was error to admit a sound recording
    before the jury erred in it’s finding that the admission of these recordings was
    harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
    GROUND TWO (RESTATED)
    The Court of Appeals, having found that appellant was denied his right to confront the witnesses
    against him including the right of physical presence of the witness before the jury, erred in it’s
    finding that these serious constitutional errors were harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
    REASON FOR REVIEW AND ARGUMENT UNDER GROUNDS ONE AND TWO
    The Court of Appeals has decided an important question of state and federal law that conflicts
    with the applicable decisions of the Court of Criminal appeals and the Supreme Court of the
    United States. (Texas Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 66.3 (d) ).
    The Court of Appeals correctly held that “the witness statements recorded on the police
    dash cam were testimonial, and their admission to evidence was error. As this was a violation of a
    constitutional protection, we must reverse Bates’ conviction unless we can determine beyond a
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    reasonable doubt that the error neither contributed to Bates’ conviction nor his punishment.” See
    Tex R. App. P. 44.2(a). (Slip Op at 12 ). The Court then determined the error and the “Miranda”
    error, argued under Ground for Review three, were harmless beyond a reasonable doubt. For the
    reasons set forth, the Court’s harmless error analysis was wrong.
    The Court of Appeals did not consider the mob atmosphere depicted in the
    video and audio of state’s Exhibit 3. Johnny Bangs, a Paris police officer testified that he
    responded to a call to 510 Bonham St, Paris on July 19, 2014. He activated his in car video and
    audio when he got the call (RR, vol 3, p. 35, l 21-p. 36, l 6). The video was admitted over
    appellant’s objection that there were people making statements that could be witnesses
    subpoenaed, and that Appellant was being questioned without any Miranda warning. (P. 38, ll 6-8;
    exhibit 3 ). Appellant’s attorney also argued that the video was more prejudicial than probative.
    The state argued that it was officers “trying to figure out what was going on.” The trial court
    overruled the objection (RR, vol 3, p. 32 l. 22- p.33, l. 19).
    The video depicts a man stating “he tried to kill that man,” and angrily saying “Don’t let
    him go anywhere, I’m going to do something stupid:” and, “he ran over that old man.” (Exhibit 3,
    Bangs video at time of 20.45; hereafter designated by time numbers on video). At the same time
    an unidentified woman is heard to say “Oh my God.” It is followed by the officer talking to
    Appellant, and Appellant stating that the truck wouldn’t stop. He stated he had no weapons.
    There is a sound of handcuffs being put on defendant. There are conversations off camera of,
    presumably, emergency medical technicians, talking to complainant. This mob atmosphere is
    described in detail by the Court of Appeals rendition of the events in the opinion. (Slip op. pp. 5-
    6).
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    What is obvious, and the Court of Appeals so finds, is that the video/audio statements were
    testimonial, and the statements contained in the recordings were used by the state to prove it’s
    case. The Court held that the admission of the video and audio of the events was error. Where
    the Court of Appeals errs is it’s conclusion that the statements contained in the recording was
    harmless, or as put by the majority, “were of no great importance to the state’s case.” ( Slip op , p.
    12).   Having said that the state relied upon the recording to prove it’s case, the Court then held
    that the recording was of “no great importance to the state’s case.”
    In making it’s harm analysis, the Court of Appeals did not properly follow Scott v.
    State, 
    227 S.W.3d 670
    , 690 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007), and did not properly apply Scott in it’s
    interpretation of Crawford v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
    (2004). This Court, in Scott, states that the
    emphasis of the harm analysis pursuant to Rule 44.2(a) should not be on the propriety of the
    outcome of the trial. The question for the reviewing court is not whether the jury verdict was
    supported by the evidence. Instead, the question is the likelihood that the constitutional error was
    actually a contributing factor in the jury’s deliberations in arriving at that verdict–whether, in
    other words, the error adversely affected ‘the integrity of the process leading to the conviction.’ In
    reaching that decision, the reviewing court may also consider factors other than those listed. Scott
    at page 390; Slip Op. P. 12.
    It is apparent that the errors pointed out and described in detail by the Court harmed appellant,
    and it cannot be said, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the recordings did not contribute to
    appellant’s conviction. Based on the foregoing, Appellant requests that the Court grant his Petition
    for Discretionary Review.
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    GROUND THREE (Restated)
    The Court of Appeals, having found that the trial court erred in admitting into evidence statement
    made to officers by the appellant while under arrest was a violation of Miranda, erred in it’s
    finding that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
    REASON FOR REVIEW AND ARGUMENT UNDER GROUND THREE
    The Court of Appeals has decided an important question of state and federal law that
    conflicts with the applicable decisions of the Court of Criminal appeals and the Supreme Court of
    the United States. (Texas Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule      66.3 (d) ).
    Appellant agrees with the rendition of the facts as set forth in the Court of
    Appeals opinion. (Slip Op., pp. 2-4) However, there is one area where the facts need to be set
    forth in more detail, and are germane to this particular issue. On page six of the Court’s opinion
    the Court states “After talking to witnesses, the voices of the officers are heard conversing with
    one another, but their conversation is mostly indecipherable, although the word ‘arrest’ is clearly
    audible at some point during these discussions.” ( Slip op. p. 6.) There is more discussion after this
    than is apparent by the Court’s rendition of the facts. After the officers discussion of the imminent
    arrest of Appellant, without giving Miranda warnings, the officer interrogates Appellant about the
    accident. Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    (1966) (See Exhibit 3, video at time 2053-2057) The
    Miranda violation is more egregious than the opinion’s facts suggest. The Court states in it’s
    opinion that the erroneous admission of the evidence was not in the nature of a confession.
    However, appellant is handcuffed and seated in the back seat of the patrol car, and had been for
    several minutes when this was occurring. The berating of appellant by the officers for suggesting
    that he did not do anything to help Whitlock was harmful. (Exhibit 3, video time 2053-2057). The
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    accusatory questions and the responses of the appellant were harmful to appellant. It suggests that
    he callously left Whitlock under his truck and did nothing to help him. It cannot be said, beyond a
    reasonable doubt, that this did not cause harm the Appellant and contribute to his conviction or
    punishment. Snowden v. State, 
    353 S.W.3d 815
    , 822 (Tex. Crim. App. 2011). See also Dowthitt
    v. State, 
    931 S.W.2d 244
    , 254 (Tex. Crim. App. 1996). Based on the foregoing, Appellant
    requests that the Court grant his Petition for Discretionary Review.
    PRAYER
    Appellant prays that this Honorable Court grant this Petition for Discretionary Review, and
    after full briefing on the merits, that the case be set for submission to the Court of Criminal
    Appeals, and that after submission, this Court reverse the decision of the Court of Appeals.
    Respectfully submitted,
    Gary L. Waite
    Attorney for Appellant
    104 Lamar Ave.
    Paris, Texas 75460
    Tel. 903/785-0096
    Fax.903/785-0097
    By:_/s/Gary L. Waite
    Gary L. Waite
    SBN 20667500
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    In The
    Court of Appeals
    Sixth Appellate District of Texas at Texarkana
    No. 06-14-00096-CR
    MICKEY LEE BATES, Appellant
    V.
    THE STATE OF TEXAS, Appellee
    On Appeal from the 6th District Court
    Lamar County, Texas
    Trial Court No. 25346
    Before Morriss, C.J., Moseley and Burgess, JJ.
    Opinion by Justice Moseley
    Concurring Opinion by Justice Burgess
    OPINION
    Mickey Lee Bates rammed his Ford pickup truck into the porch of his neighbor’s
    apartment, pinning his neighbor, Tommy Whitlock, between the truck and the detritus of the
    destroyed porch. As a result of this conduct, Bates was charged with aggravated assault with a
    deadly weapon. A jury convicted Bates of the charge, and he was sentenced to ten years’
    confinement. Appealing the conviction, Bates raises several challenges to the audio portion of a
    audio/video recording which was admitted to evidence. This recording allowed the jury to hear
    both the statements of witnesses and statements by Bates as given to investigating officers at the
    scene. In addition to his complaints about the admission of the audio/video recording, Bates also
    claims his trial counsel was constitutionally ineffective.
    Although we concur with Bates’ claim that some of the evidence from the recording was
    admitted in error, we find the error harmless beyond a reasonable doubt. We also find that Bates
    has failed in his burden to demonstrate that his trial counsel provided ineffective assistance. We,
    therefore, affirm the trial court’s judgment and sentence.
    I.     Factual Circumstance
    At the time of the events giving rise to the assault charge, Bates was staying in an apartment
    with James Dunagan in Paris. The apartment complex appears to be a collection of small frame
    buildings rather than the contemporary, multi-family, multi-story complexes commonly built and
    seen over the past decades. Dunagan said that in the early evening of July 19, 2013, he was inside
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    the apartment watching television, while Bates was outside on the porch, drinking Bloody Marys.1
    Bates had previously installed a video camera from which he could monitor his truck in the parking
    lot, and a small television display of the view from the camera was on or near Dunagan’s television
    set. Through Bates’ monitoring device, Dunagan saw Bates get into his truck, appearing to be
    ready to leave the premises. This concerned Dunagan because he believed the amount of alcohol
    he had witnessed Bates consume that day would impair Bates’ ability to drive. Walking onto the
    porch, Dunagan observed Bates first back up the manual transmission truck and then lunge forward
    over a concrete curb stop and across something of a courtyard where he slammed the truck into
    the front porch of Whitlock’s apartment. Whitlock (an older man) and J.D. Duncan, a friend of
    Whitlock’s, were sitting on Whitlock’s porch. Duncan, seeing the rapidly-approaching truck, was
    able to evacuate the porch before the collision, but Whitlock was not. Dunagan testified that after
    smashing into Whitlock’s porch, Bates backed up his truck and proceeded to slam into the porch
    a second time. After this second collision, Bates’ truck became entangled with the debris from the
    porch, and Bates could not extricate it. Bates turned off the key and started to walk away. A
    neighbor of Dunagan’s took Bates by the arm and led him to a chair on Dunagan’s front porch,
    where Bates sat until the police arrived.
    Whitlock corroborated Dunagan’s description of events. Whitlock stated that he and
    Duncan were sitting on Whitlock’s porch having a drink. He indicated that Bates and Duncan had
    recently argued regarding “something about somebody owed somebody or something.” Whitlock
    1
    Dunagan testified that Bates drank most of “a fifth of vodka.” In this context, “a fifth” is usually understood to mean
    one fifth of a U.S. gallon or 757 milliliters. See MERRIAM-WEBSTER’S COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY 466 (11th ed. 2006).
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    believed that Bates and Duncan were not getting along very well that day. Whitlock testified that
    he watched as Bates got into his truck, backed the truck down what he described as a long
    driveway, and then sped forward (sounding like a “tornado”), smashing into Whitlock’s porch.
    Whitlock then described Bates backing up and ramming the porch a second time. This second
    collision caused Whitlock to be pinned between the door of his apartment and the front of Bates’
    truck. Whitlock stated that while he was trapped between his apartment and the truck, Bates put
    the truck in reverse and attempted to back up (Whitlock believing that he intended to back up and
    run into the porch a third time), but by this juncture, the truck was entangled in the debris and
    could not be moved.
    As a result of the incident, Whitlock sustained a broken leg, a broken rib, and abrasions,
    and he required daily home health care for a brief period. As a long-term consequence, he found
    it necessary to use a cane much more frequently than he had in the past. Whitlock was the named
    victim in the indictment; the State alleged, and the jury found, that Bates used or exhibited the
    pick-up truck as a deadly weapon.
    II.      Controversy Over Admission of Audio/Video Recording
    Three of the four points of error raised by Bates on appeal deal with the introduction of an
    audio/video recording introduced by the State. This recording, admitted as State’s Exhibit 3, was
    captured by a dashboard camera (dash cam) in one of the responding police officers’ cars. There
    are three points of error we must address concerning admission of this recording, each having to
    do with the admissibility of the audio portion of the recording and with Bates’ statements recorded
    on it.
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    The recording commences with the travel of the patrol car to the scene and continues after
    the patrol car comes to a stop in the parking lot of the apartment units. The audio portion records
    the statements of several witnesses at the scene, as well as comments made by Bates in response
    to questions posed to him by the police who appeared at the scene. Almost immediately after the
    policeman exits the patrol car, a burly, shirtless man approaches him and says, “[H]e just tried to
    kill that man.” A woman’s voice is recorded as saying, “Oh, my God.” The burly man appears to
    be quite agitated and excited, pacing back and forth in front of the patrol car, and tells the
    policemen, “Get him man. Get him. Don’t let him go nowhere ‘cause I’m gonna do something
    stupid.” Although some of the audio portion of the recording is somewhat unintelligible, it appears
    that the burly man says the name “Mickey Bates.”
    Immediately after this exchange, one of the officers (who is outside the range of the
    camera) says, “Come here; what’s the deal, man?” Almost assuredly, this question was directed
    at Bates, because the speaker responds, “Man, I started my truck up and put it in gear and let out
    on the clutch and it took off and I couldn’t stop it and it just kept going . . . ain’t run over nobody
    on purpose . . . I swear to God.” The officer then asks the speaker (obviously Bates) if he has any
    weapons on him; and, notably, if he was driving the vehicle. Bates responds with what sounds
    like, “I cranked it . . . .” Shortly, the sound of handcuffs being applied is heard. From witness
    testimony at trial, it appears that at this point, Bates was handcuffed and put in a police car.2
    2
    Bates does not challenge the admission of this statement; we interpret his argument in his third point of error to
    challenge admission of the statements he made later, after being handcuffed and put in a police car.
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    Over the next five or six minutes, the police officers’ voices are heard to request that people
    who were witnesses to the event come talk to them. At least two people are then heard responding
    to police questioning and by stating that they saw someone drive a truck rapidly into Whitlock’s
    porch, back up, and then repeat the collision. After one of these recitations, one of the officers is
    heard asking the witness for her contact information.
    After talking to these witnesses, the voices of the officers are heard conversing with one
    another, but their conversation is mostly indecipherable, although the word “arrest” is clearly
    audible at some point during these discussions. At no point does anyone provide Bates with the
    warnings prescribed by Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    (1966). One officer asks Bates (who is
    then sitting handcuffed in the rear of the patrol car) his name. Bates identifies himself and says
    that he lives in the apartment complex. A voice apparently belonging to a police officer3 asks
    Bates, “What’s going on Mickey,” and Bates’ response (which is difficult to understand) indicates
    that he had put his truck in the wrong gear “and let out on the gas and . . . couldn’t get off of it . . .
    gas pedal got stuck.” The officer then inquired how much alcohol he had consumed, and Bates
    responded that he had not had much. When Bates was asked if he knew Whitlock, he responded
    in the affirmative and volunteered that he would never intentionally hurt the man, maintaining that
    the collision had been the result of an accident. When asked if he had tried to help Whitlock, Bates
    answered that he had been knocked unconscious by the collision.
    3
    This voice sounds different than the voice that asked the earlier question, but none of the speakers, other than Officer
    Chad Brakebill, were identified on the recording.
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    After talking to Bates, the police officers are heard talking, apparently out of Bates’
    hearing. One officer asked, “We’re gonna get him for assault, right?” Another officer responds
    affirmatively, saying Bates would be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
    Within two minutes thereafter, an officer is heard telling Bates he was under arrest for “assault
    with a deadly weapon.”
    A.       Confrontation Clause
    Bates’ first two points of error are directed at the admission of the video recording. The
    first point claims error in the admission of the audio portion of State’s Exhibit 3 “before the jury
    without the proper predicate.”4 Bates’ second point of error complains that its admission was in
    error because Bates had a right “to confront the witnesses against him. This includes the right of
    physical presence of the witness before the jury and the defendant without the defendant’s having
    to call the witness.” Even so, the body of Bates’ brief concentrates on addressing hearsay and
    confrontation of witnesses, attempting to address these two points in a single section of argument.
    We first look to Bates’ trial objections to consider what argument or arguments have been
    preserved for our review.5
    When the State sought to offer State’s Exhibit 3, the following objection and discussion
    occurred:
    4
    If by his phrase “sound recording admitted without predicate” Bates intended to object to the recording of his voice
    without first satisfying the requirements of Article 38.22, Section 3 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, he does
    not discuss, analyze, or argue this in his brief. See TEX. CODE CRIM. PROC. ANN. art. 38.22 (West Supp. 2014). As
    explained below, we treat Bates’ arguably multifarious objection as preserving only a Confrontation Clause complaint.
    5
    “[P]reservation of error is systemic and must be considered, regardless of whether the issue is raised by the parties.”
    Flowers v. State, 
    438 S.W.3d 96
    , 106 (Tex. App.—Texarkana 2014, pet. ref’d) (citing Gipson v. State, 
    383 S.W.3d 152
    , 159 (Tex. Crim. App. 2012)).
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    [Defense Counsel]: I’m objecting to this DVD being played with the audio
    because there are people on there that are making statements that could be witnesses
    subpoenaed here. These people -- and also the defendant is questioned without any
    Miranda warning on his way to the hospital; therefore, it is more prejudicial than
    probative.[6]
    Now, I don’t mind it if it’s just what you see but it’s this conversation.
    [The State]: This is officers responding to a 911 -- three 911 calls. We’re
    offering it for the purpose of the present sense impression, any excited utterance.
    The defendant was not under arrest when he was questioned. They’re trying to
    figure out what was going on. There is another officer video where they do take
    the witnesses in front of the car and question them. That’s Officer Mitchell’s video.
    We’re not going to offer that into evidence. This just relates to the officers arriving
    on the scene, trying to find out what is going on and trying to find out from
    Mr. Bates what happened.
    THE COURT: I’m going to overrule your objection.
    [Defense Counsel]: Could I say something -- respond? First, when they get
    there, there is a man going on -- giving -- telling what he saw.
    [The State]: This is the officer’s present sense impression, trying to figure
    out what’s going on.
    THE COURT: I’m going to allow it. I think you can do it.
    [Defense Counsel]: All right.
    It is quite apparent that the State must have believed the nature of Bates’ objections to be directed
    to complaints about the hearsay nature of the evidence. However, we find that the first part of the
    objection (which refers to “people on there that are making statements that could be witnesses
    6
    We treat this passage as presenting two objections, the first of which deals with the audio-recorded statements of
    witnesses as heard on State’s Exhibit 3 and the second which deals with Bates’ oral statements being recorded and
    offered to evidence without his having first been given Miranda warnings. See Miranda, 
    384 U.S. 436
    . As for the
    contention that Bates’ statement was “more prejudicial than probative,” that statement is too vague to present a proper
    objection. There is no indication Rules 403 or 404(b) of the Texas Rules of Evidence were at issue or being discussed,
    and a weighing of probative value versus potential prejudice arises in other contexts, such as Rule 609 of the Texas
    Rules of Evidence. See TEX. R. EVID. 609.
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    subpoenaed here,” as well as counsel’s later statement) that “[f]irst, when they get there, there is a
    man going on -- giving -- telling what he saw” raise an objection to Bates’ inability to confront
    potential witnesses against him. We will treat Bates’ first objection as one raising his rights under
    the Confrontation Clause of the United States Constitution. See U.S. CONST. amend. VI.
    The United States Constitution’s Confrontation Clause “restricts the introduction of out-
    of-court statements . . . in which state actors are involved in a formal, out-of-court interrogation of
    a witness to obtain evidence for trial.” Michigan v. Bryant, 131 S.Ct 1143, 1155 (2011). Such
    statements are testimonial in that the testimony they present is characterized as “‘[a] solemn
    declaration or affirmation made for the purpose of establishing or proving some fact.’” Crawford
    v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
    , 51 (2004) (quoting 2 N. WEBSTER, AN AMERICAN DICTIONARY OF
    THE ENGLISH   LANGUAGE (1828)). Testimonial statements are precluded from admission at trial,
    under the authority of the Sixth Amendment, unless the declarant is unavailable and the opponent
    of the statement has had a prior opportunity to cross-examine the declarant. See 
    id. at 68
    (“Sixth
    Amendment demands what the common law required: unavailability and a prior opportunity for
    cross-examination.”).
    The parameters of testimonial versus non-testimonial statements are still evolving. Helpful
    to our analysis is the following, from the United States Supreme Court:
    Statements are non[-]testimonial when made in the course of police interrogation
    under circumstances objectively indicating that the primary purpose of the
    interrogation is to enable police assistance to meet an ongoing emergency. They
    are testimonial when the circumstances objectively indicate that there is no such
    ongoing emergency, and that the primary purpose of the interrogation is to establish
    or prove past events potentially relevant to later criminal prosecution.
    9
    Davis v. Washington, 
    547 U.S. 813
    , 822 (2006). In Davis, the statements at issue were from a 9-
    1-1 emergency call. The declarant caller “was alone, not only unprotected by police . . . but
    apparently in immediate danger from Davis. She was seeking aid, not telling a story about the
    past. [Her] present-tense statements showed immediacy.” Thus, the statements were non-
    testimonial. 
    Id. at 831.
    A different result was reached in Davis’ companion case, Hammon v.
    Indiana. There, the victim’s
    narrative of past events [] delivered at some remove in time from the danger she
    described . . . were neither a cry for help nor the provision of information enabling
    officers immediately to end a threatening situation, [and] the fact that they were
    given at an alleged crime scene and were “initial inquiries” is immaterial.
    
    Id. at 832.
    Hammon’s statements were testimonial.
    The United States Supreme Court expounded upon the differences in the Davis and
    Hammon statements in Bryant. In that case, officers responded to a reported shooting where they
    found the victim bleeding in the parking lot of a gas station. While the victim told them he had
    been shot, and may have identified the shooter, the Court took note that nothing the victim told
    officers explained the reason for the shooting, where the shooter was, whether the declarant
    believed that he might return, etc. See Bryant, 131 S.Ct at 1163–64, 1166. Discussing Davis, the
    Court took note that part of the consideration in Davis and its companion, Hammon, had been
    whether the two victims of domestic violence remained in danger, something that would constitute
    an ongoing emergency. (Reiterating, we note that in Davis, the victim called while Davis was
    assaulting her, but in Hammon, the danger had passed; the victim told officers “things were fine,”
    and “there was no immediate threat to her person.” 
    Davis, 547 U.S. at 830
    ). The testimonial
    analysis should consist of an objective evaluation of the primary purpose of the statement in
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    question considering things like the existence vel non of an emergency and the formality of the
    statement. Bryant, 131 S.Ct at 1160. We look objectively at the “statements and actions of the
    parties [that is, the questioner and the declarant] to the encounter, in light of the circumstances in
    which the interrogation occurs.” 
    Id. at 1162.
    In the case at bar, although the police officers were initially responding to an emergency,
    it seems clear that the immediate danger had passed. Even though it appears that Whitlock was
    still pinned between Bates’ pick-up truck, the debris from his porch, and his apartment, and even
    though emergency responders were still arriving and dealing with the situation, there was no
    indication that anyone other than Bates was the perpetrator of the assault. There was no danger
    that Bates would abscond, he acted alone, he quickly acquiesced to law enforcement’s authority,
    and he posed no danger to those around him. Even the excited burly man seen on the recording
    shortly after the police arrived was describing events that had already occurred, even though
    recently;7 the other witnesses heard being interviewed by the police all spoke in the past tense,
    describing what they had just seen. In the context of the events on the ground, officers were
    gleaning information concerning an apparent crime which had been completed, and neither the
    police, nor the victim, nor any of the witnesses were under a prospect of further danger that their
    words could operate to affect. “Objectively viewed, the primary, if not indeed the sole, purpose
    7
    That a statement may qualify as an excited utterance (see TEX. R. EVID. 803(2)) “does not alter its testimonial nature.”
    Wall v. State, 
    184 S.W.3d 730
    , 745 (Tex. Crim. App. 2006). Although the State argues that at least some of the
    witness’ statements recorded in State’s Exhibit 3 qualified as excited utterances, we do not get to that discussion,
    because the first part of Bates’ trial objection, quoted above, did not make specific complaints about hearsay and
    confrontation. We have treated his objection as one to confrontation. Discrete objections are required to preserve
    hearsay and confrontation complaints, individually. See Reyna v. State, 
    168 S.W.3d 173
    , 179 (Tex. Crim. App. 2005).
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    of the interrogation[s] was to investigate a possible crime . . . precisely what the officer[s] should
    have done.” 
    Davis, 547 U.S. at 830
    .
    The witness statements recorded on the police dash cam were testimonial, and their
    admission to evidence was error. As this was a violation of a constitutional protection, we must
    reverse Bates’ conviction unless we can determine beyond a reasonable doubt that the error
    contributed neither to Bates’ conviction nor his punishment. See TEX. R. APP. P. 44.2(a).
    We consider the following factors in a harm analysis:
    1) how important was the out-of-court statement to the State’s case; 2) whether the
    out-of-court statement was cumulative of other evidence; 3) the presence or absence
    of evidence corroborating or contradicting the out-of-court statement on material
    points; and 4) the overall strength of the prosecution’s case.
    Scott v. State, 
    227 S.W.3d 670
    , 690 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007). Here, while the witness statements
    contained in the recording were apparently used by the State in order to prove its case, we find
    they were not of any great importance to the State’s case. Whitlock and Dunagan both testified in
    detail regarding Bates driving his truck forcefully into Whitlock’s porch, backing up, and smashing
    into it again. Accordingly, the witness statements on the audio/video recording were cumulative
    of other (much more detailed) evidence properly allowed into evidence. In this same vein, the
    State had a strong case against Bates (based on Whitlock and Dunagan’s testimony) without any
    of the evidence from the audio/video recording.         We find the erroneous admission of the
    testimonial witness statements contained on State’s Exhibit 3 to have been harmless beyond a
    reasonable doubt.
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    B.       Bates’ Custodial Statement, Without Miranda Warnings
    Bates next challenges admission of the portion of State’s Exhibit 3 where officers asked
    him questions about what had occurred that lead to Bates’ truck being smashed into Whitlock’s
    porch.8 We find that at least some of Bates’ statements to police were the result of custodial
    interrogation and that admission of those statements was error. We also find, though, that this
    error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
    The warnings required by Miranda are triggered when a person undergoes custodial
    interrogation or, in other words, the “questioning initiated by law enforcement officers after a
    person has been taken into custody or otherwise deprived of his freedom of action in any significant
    way.” 
    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 444
    ; Herrera v. State, 
    241 S.W.3d 520
    (Tex. Crim. App. 2007). One
    is in custody, for these purposes, “only if, under the circumstances, a reasonable person would
    believe that his freedom of movement was restrained to the degree associated with a formal arrest.”
    Dowthitt v. State, 
    931 S.W.2d 244
    , 254 (Tex. Crim. App. 1996). In Dowthitt, the Texas Court of
    Criminal Appeals suggested four scenarios wherein a person might be deemed in custody:
    (1) when the suspect is physically deprived of his freedom of action in any
    significant way, (2) when a law enforcement officer tells the suspect he cannot
    leave, (3) when law enforcement officers create a situation that would lead a
    reasonable person to believe his freedom of movement has been significantly
    restricted, and (4) when there is probable cause to arrest and law enforcement
    officers do not tell the suspect he is free to leave.
    
    Id. at 255.
    “[T]he restriction upon freedom of movement [in situations one through three] must
    amount to the degree associated with an arrest as opposed to an investigative detention.” 
    Id. 8 Bates
    never denied, at the scene or at trial, that he owned the Ford pick-up truck found trapped among the detritus of
    Whitlock’s porch.
    13
    “[T]he custody determination is based entirely upon the objective circumstances”; the subjective
    intent of the law enforcement officer and of the defendant are “irrelevant except to the extent that
    they may be manifested in the words or actions of law enforcement officials . . . .” 
    Id. at 254.
    We recently summarized characterizations of custodial statements as follows:
    “[U]nwarned statements that are otherwise voluntary within the meaning of the
    Fifth Amendment must nevertheless be excluded from evidence under Miranda.”
    Oregon v. Elstad, 
    470 U.S. 298
    , 307, 
    105 S. Ct. 1285
    , 
    84 L. Ed. 2d 222
    (1985); see
    also Carter v. State, 
    309 S.W.3d 31
    , 35–36 (Tex. Crim. App. 2010) (“Failure to
    provide the warnings and obtain a waiver prior to custodial questioning generally
    requires exclusion of statements obtained.”). Custodial interrogation refers to
    “(1) express questioning and (2) ‘any words or actions on the part of the police
    (other than those normally attendant to arrest and custody) that the police should
    know are reasonably likely to elicit an incriminating response from the suspect.’”
    Alford v. State, 
    358 S.W.3d 647
    , 653 (Tex. Crim. App. 2012) (quoting Rhode Island
    v. Innis, 
    446 U.S. 291
    , 301, 
    100 S. Ct. 1682
    , 
    64 L. Ed. 2d 297
    (1980)). That said,
    statements made voluntarily and not in response to custodial interrogation are
    admissible. Arizona v. Mauro, 
    481 U.S. 520
    , 525–26, 529, 
    107 S. Ct. 1931
    , 
    95 L. Ed. 2d 458
    (1987); 
    Miranda, 384 U.S. at 478
    (“Volunteered statements of any
    kind are not barred by the Fifth Amendment . . . .”); Stevens v. State, 
    671 S.W.2d 517
    , 520 (Tex. Crim. App. 1984); Hutchinson v. State, 
    424 S.W.3d 164
    , 178 (Tex.
    App.—Texarkana 2014, no pet.).
    Johnson v. State, No. 06-13-00129-CR, 
    2014 WL 3865903
    , at *2 (Tex. App.—Texarkana Aug. 7,
    2014, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for publication) (footnote omitted).
    The first statement given on the audio/video recording by Bates appears to have been made
    before he was either handcuffed or put in the police cruiser. Within less than two minutes of the
    police officer having arrived at the scene, at least one person directed the officers’ attention to
    Bates as being the operator of the truck that had smashed into Whitlock’s porch. At that time, the
    policemen asked Bates what was going on at the scene, and Bates responded by saying that he had
    been in his truck but could not control or stop it. The admission of this statement is not challenged
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    by Bates.9 Bates was then told by a policeman to step over to a certain area with another of the
    officers, and it appears that handcuffs were immediately applied to him and he was put in the rear
    seat of a patrol car.
    About seven minutes later, Bates is again asked questions by the police. Officer Brakebill
    testified that he was the officer questioning Bates in this later segment. Brakebill maintained that
    despite the fact that Bates was handcuffed and secured in a police car, he was not under arrest at
    that time. Rather, according to Brakebill, Bates was just being detained while officers investigated
    the situation. Brakebill testified that the Miranda warnings were not administered to Bates at that
    time because he was not under arrest. Brakebill said that Bates was not being detained because he
    was under arrest; rather, according to Brakebill, the object of the detention was “[t]o find out his
    side of the story; what took place, was he, in fact, the person behind the wheel of the vehicle when
    the incident occurred, what his story was, how he played into this situation . . . .”
    The State argues that police were in the midst of an investigative detention with Bates and
    that Bates was not arrested until after the above conversation with Brakebill. The State cites
    Balentine v. State, 
    71 S.W.3d 763
    (Tex. Crim. App. 2002), and Rhodes v. State, 
    945 S.W.2d 115
    (Tex. Crim. App. 1997), wherein the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals noted that even where a
    person was handcuffed and/or secured in a police car, that person was not necessarily under arrest.
    “Terry[10] provides that a police officer may stop and briefly detain a person reasonably suspected
    9
    Even if Bates challenged this statement, it would likely have been admissible as, at this point, the officers were
    engaged in an encounter with Bates, a consensual interaction that Bates could have terminated at any time. See Hunter
    v. State, 
    955 S.W.2d 102
    , 104 (Tex. Crim. App. 1997).
    10
    Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 22 (1968).
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    of criminal activity in the absence of probable cause to arrest the person.” 
    Balentine, 71 S.W.3d at 771
    . In looking at the facts of Balentine, upon which the State relies, we find that Balentine was
    found late at night near an area where there was a report of shots fired. Balentine walked quickly
    away from, and kept looking over his should at, the responding officer, who stopped Balentine and
    questioned him. The officer then handcuffed and frisked Balentine, during which search he found
    a .32 bullet. Although Balentine gave somewhat inconsistent answers to the officer’s questions,
    the officer released him. The next day, officers found a triple homicide in the area where Balentine
    had been walking, the murder weapon having been a .32 caliber firearm. The State eventually
    charged Balentine and presented evidence of the bullet found in his pocket the night of the murders.
    Notwithstanding the officer’s handcuffing of Balentine, the stop was held to be an investigative
    detention, not an arrest. 
    Id. In Rhodes,
    officers followed a suspicious vehicle from which a Crown Royal bag was
    discarded; later, the defendant, the passenger of the vehicle, was seen dropping a baggy of cocaine.
    The officer testified that he handcuffed Rhodes based on concerns for the officer’s safety—Rhodes
    was detained in a high-crime area, after dark, and the officer was alone with Rhodes following a
    car chase. 
    Rhodes, 945 S.W.2d at 117
    . When the defendant was handcuffed and held after the car
    chase ended, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals found this was an investigative detention, not
    an arrest. 
    Id. at 118.
    The State also relies on Bartlett v. State, 
    249 S.W.3d 658
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2008, pet.
    ref’d). There, following a country music concert at a motorcycle rally, two different groups got
    into a fight, and the complainant was struck and required medical attention. When officers arrived,
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    tensions were high, and witnesses identified Bartlett as the person who had punched the female
    complainant in the mouth. The officer who eventually interviewed Bartlett told both Bartlett and
    his friends that Bartlett would not be arrested that night but (citing officer safety and in light of the
    tense situation that existed between the two rival groups), the officer handcuffed Bartlett and drove
    him in a police car to a barn or building on the complex, but away from the crowds (about 2,000
    yards away, see 
    id. at 665).
    There he removed Bartlett’s handcuffs and told him he just wanted
    his side of the story. Bartlett gave a written statement, which was later admitted at trial. True to
    his word, the officer returned Bartlett to his group, and the officers made no arrests at that time.
    Later, Bartlett was charged with assault. See 
    id. The Austin
    Court of Appeals in Bartlett held that
    the officer conducted an investigative detention. Bartlett was neither in custody nor under arrest
    at the time he gave his statement. 
    Id. at 671.
    We note significant differences between the situation in Bartlett and that confronting
    officers at the apartment complex where the issues in this case arose. Law enforcement officers
    in Bartlett were confronted with what had apparently been a melee between two groups at a
    motorcyclists’ gathering which had the potential of escalating to a riot. The testifying officer there
    made it clear at the time that he handcuffed Bartlett and took him away based on safety concerns.
    The officer told Bartlett, “[I am taking you away for] our safety,” and the opinion suggests he
    meant both his safety and the safety of Bartlett. 
    Id. at 664,
    669. It is true that Brakebill said safety
    was a consideration in securing Bates,11 but there is nothing in the record, including the
    11
    Albeit a general consideration, Brakebill testified, “Upon making contact with [Bates] and determin[ing] he was the
    driver of the vehicle for the investigation to ensue for safety purposes he was placed in handcuffs, advised he was
    detained, placed in the vehicle for further questioning on the scene prior to any arrest being made.” Brakebill did not
    specify what “safety purposes” were served by this conduct.
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    audio/video recording, which captured the circumstances facing officers upon their arrival,
    suggesting the degree of simmering mayhem as described in Bartlett.12 Also, significantly, in
    Bartlett, the officer unequivocally told both Bartlett and his confederates that Bartlett was not
    being arrested. Rather, the officer made it clear that Bartlett was being removed so the officer
    could talk to him and that after that, Bartlett would not be arrested that evening. 
    Id. at 670–71.
    When the officer and Bartlett arrived at the separate building, away from the rival motorcycle
    groups, Bartlett was uncuffed and asked to relate his version of events. When he agreed to give a
    written statement, the officer left Bartlett alone in the building and retrieved a voluntary statement
    form from his car.13 Importantly, also, Bartlett was then advised of his Miranda rights, and then
    he executed a written statement. 
    Id. at 665–66.
    The officer then returned Bartlett to his group. As
    the officer indicated, Bartlett was not arrested the night of the incident.
    The State relies on the following language in Bartlett: “Nor do investigative detentions
    constitute ‘custody’ in the sense of article 38.22 and Miranda. . . . Thus, a valid investigative
    detention, which is characterized by lesser restraint than an arrest, does not constitute custody.”
    
    Id. at 668.
    For this last statement (that an investigative detention is not custody), Bartlett cited
    Berkemer v. McCarty, 
    468 U.S. 420
    , 438–39 (1984). There, an officer saw McCarty weaving in
    and out of his traffic lane and stopped McCarty. McCarty could not complete a balancing test
    without falling. The officer decided to charge the driver with a traffic offense and not let him drive
    The only indication that anything might get out of hand was the burly man’s bravado statement that if the police did
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    not apprehend Bates, he might do “something stupid.” This is hardly indicative of an oncoming riot.
    13
    The only challenged evidence Bartlett sought to suppress was the written statement and photographs taken of
    Bartlett’s hand, showing a tooth mark where he had struck the complainant in the mouth. The initial oral statement,
    provided before any Miranda warning, does not appear to have been challenged or moved into evidence.
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    away, but never formally told him he was being taken into custody. At the roadside stop, McCarty
    acknowledged recently consuming beers and smoking marihuana. McCarty was taken to the
    police station where questions about his drug and alcohol use elicited additional statements
    admitting that he had been drinking beer and smoking marihuana. At no point was McCarty
    administered Miranda warnings. McCarty stands for the proposition that one taken into custody,
    even for a traffic offense, must be provided Miranda warnings once he is in custody. 
    McCarty, 468 U.S. at 438
    –40. The section of McCarty cited by Bartlett for the statement that an investigative
    detention is not custody discusses the limitations of traffic stops and distinguishes those situations,
    authorized by Terry, from custodial situations. We respectfully find our sister court’s statement
    that investigative detentions are not custody too broad for application in the situation before us.
    Although the police officers in this case may have intended to conduct an investigatory
    detention of Bates, the conduct of that investigation constituted a custodial interrogation. Bates
    was deprived of his freedom in a significant way by being handcuffed and isolated in a police
    cruiser. Even if there is no indication Bates was explicitly told he was not free to leave, he was
    also not told he was not under arrest (cf. Bartlett), and he clearly was not free to leave. Officers
    here created a situation where a reasonable person14 would believe his “freedom of movement had
    14
    “The ‘reasonable person’ standard presupposes an innocent person.” 
    Dowthitt, 931 S.W.2d at 254
    . This assertion
    derives from Florida v. Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    , 437–38 (1991), which rejected “Bostick’s argument that he must have
    been seized because no reasonable person would freely consent to a search of luggage that he or she knows contains
    drugs. . . . [T]he ‘reasonable person’ test presupposes an innocent person.” 
    Id. While on
    a bus, Bostick was
    approached by law enforcement officers who asked a few questions and then asked if they could search Bostick’s bag.
    In support of this statement, the United States Supreme Court cited Florida v. Royer, 
    460 U.S. 491
    , 519 n.4 (1983)
    (plurality op.) (“The fact that [respondent] knew the search was likely to turn up contraband is of course irrelevant;
    the potential intrusiveness of the officers’ conduct must be judged from the viewpoint of an innocent person in [his]
    position.”) (Blackmun, J., dissenting), and Michigan v. Chesternut, 
    486 U.S. 567
    , 574 (1988) (“This ‘reasonable
    person’ standard . . . ensures that the scope of Fourth Amendment protection does not vary with the state of mind of
    the particular individual being approached.”). So, while a “reasonable person” may presuppose an innocent person,
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    been significantly restricted” to the degree associated with a formal arrest,15 and officers had
    probable cause to arrest Bates, based on witness statements they had accumulated. Yet, officers
    did not tell Bates he was free to leave. Whether the police intended only an investigative detention,
    Bates was surely in custody at the time police officers handcuffed him, if not before. Admission
    of his statement given to police after he was in custody was error.
    Erroneous admission of a statement which should have been suppressed under Miranda is
    error of constitutional dimension, and we must reverse the conviction unless we determine, beyond
    a reasonable doubt, that admission of the statement did not contribute to the conviction. See Coffey
    v. State, 
    435 S.W.3d 834
    , 843 (Tex. App.—Texarkana 2014, pet. ref’d); see also TEX. R. APP. P.
    44.2(a).
    In conducting a harm analysis of an error involving a constitutional protection, “the
    question for the reviewing court is not whether the jury verdict was supported by the evidence.
    Instead, the question is the likelihood that the constitutional error was actually a contributing factor
    in the jury’s deliberations in arriving at that verdict.” Scott v. State, 
    227 S.W.3d 670
    , 690 (Tex.
    Crim. App. 2007). “At bottom, an analysis for whether a particular constitutional error is harmless
    should take into account any and every circumstance apparent in the record that logically informs
    an appellate determination whether ‘beyond a reasonable doubt [that particular] error did not
    contribute to the conviction or punishment.’” Snowden v. State, 
    353 S.W.3d 815
    , 822 (Tex. Crim.
    it is still an objective evaluation of whether that person would believe themselves free to go, be they sheep or goat.
    See Matthew 25:32-33; see also 
    Dowthitt, 931 S.W.2d at 254
    –55 (“[T]he custody determination is based entirely upon
    objective circumstances. [Stansbury v. California,] 511 U.S. [318, 323 (1994) (per curiam)]. The determination of
    custody must be made on an ad hoc basis, after considering all of the (objective) circumstances.”).
    15
    See 
    Dowthitt, 931 S.W.2d at 255
    .
    
    20 Ohio App. 2011
    ) (quoting TEX. R. APP. P. 44.2(a)). The circumstances to be considered may include,
    as appropriate, “the nature of the error (e.g., erroneous admission or exclusion of evidence,
    objectionable jury argument, etc.), whether it was emphasized by the State, the probable
    implications of the error, and the weight the jury would likely have assigned to it in the course of
    its deliberations.” 
    Id. Here, although
    the nature of the error was the erroneous admission of evidence, the
    evidence admitted was not in the nature of a confession. Rather, Bates’ statement to officers was
    entirely exculpatory because he claimed the collision of his truck with the front porch of the
    apartment to have been an accident. Although he admitted driving the truck (which, in some fact
    situations may have been an issue to be determined at trial), the identity of the driver was not at
    issue at trial; the only issue at trial was Bates’ mental state at the time the collision took place.
    Other than disputing Bates’ claim that the collision was accidental, the State did not emphasize or
    dwell on Bates’ statement. It is quite unlikely that the jury gave much weight to Bates’ statement.
    When one considers the impact of Bates’ statement, it provided a means for Bates to place his
    defensive theory of accident before the jury without his having to take the stand to state it.
    Other than the uncontested statement that Bates actually piloted the truck when it struck
    Whitlock’s porch (evidence that was readily available elsewhere), the statement contained no
    inculpatory elements. The jury heard both Whitlock and Dunagan describe Bates’ driving,
    including that he rammed the porch once, then backed up, and rammed into the structure again.
    “[C]alculat[ing], as nearly as possible, the probable impact of the error on the jury in light of the
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    other evidence,”16 we feel confident the erroneous admission of Bates’ statement did not contribute
    to the conviction. See Wall v. State, 
    184 S.W.3d 730
    , 746 (Tex. Crim. App. 2006); Wesbrook v.
    State, 
    29 S.W.3d 103
    , 119 (Tex. Crim. App. 2000) (considering overwhelming evidence of guilt
    in assaying harm from constitutional error).17
    III.        No Ineffective Assistance of Counsel Shown
    Bates’ fourth point of error alleges the insufficiency of his trial counsel’s representation.
    Pointing to acts or omissions of his trial attorney, Bates claims these purported errors amounted to
    ineffective assistance of counsel. We overrule this point of error.18
    16
    McCarthy v. State, 
    65 S.W.3d 47
    , 55 (Tex. Crim. App. 2001).
    17
    Our analysis of this Miranda error alerted us to the possibility of an issue involving Articles 38.22 or 38.23 of the
    Texas Code of Criminal Procedure. In certain situations, the trial court is obligated, even if no request is made, to
    instruct the jury that it may not consider evidence if the jury finds that evidence was obtained in violation of the laws
    of the State of Texas or the United States. See TEX. CODE CRIM. PROC. ANN. arts. 38.22, § 7, 38.23(a) (West 2005).
    However, those requirements are only triggered where the evidence raises an issue as to a “genuine factual dispute.”
    Oursbourn v. State, 
    259 S.W.3d 159
    , 176 (Tex. Crim. App. 2008). For example, if the defendant maintains he
    involuntarily gave a statement under duress or coercion from law enforcement, but the officer denies the alleged
    coercive conduct, that might raise a fact issue properly submitted to the jury. See 
    id. at 176–77.
    However, “[t]he jury
    decides facts; the judge decides the application of the law to those facts.” Madden v. State, 
    242 S.W.3d 504
    , 511 (Tex.
    Crim. App. 2007); see also TEX. CODE CRIM. PROC. ANN. art. 36.13 (West 2007) (“Unless otherwise provided in this
    Code, the jury is the exclusive judge of the facts, but it is bound to receive the law from the court and be governed
    thereby.”).
    However, in this case, there was no disputed fact for submission to the jury on the issue of whether evidence
    was illicitly obtained. The only disputes were whether Bates had already been placed in custody at the time of his
    statement(s) and whether the protections of Miranda were implicated. Whether a person is in custody, for purposes
    of Miranda and Article 38.22, is a legal question and not a factual one. See State v. Saenz, 
    411 S.W.3d 488
    , 495 (Tex.
    Crim. App. 2013) (trial court’s findings “inadequate to make the ultimate legal determination of whether appellee was
    in custody at the time of the challenged statements.”). A jury instruction under Article 38.23(a) is only required where
    there is a “disputed issue[] of fact . . . material to [appellant’s] claim of a constitutional or statutory violation that
    would render evidence inadmissible.” 
    Madden, 242 S.W.3d at 509
    –10. It is only logical that the same requirement
    applies to a jury instruction required by Article 38.22, Section 7. See 
    Oursbourn, 259 S.W.3d at 176
    –77. No fact
    issue having been raised by the evidence, a jury instruction pursuant to Article 38.22, Section 7, or Article 38.23 was
    not required.
    18
    Strictly speaking, we could deem Bates’ point of error multifarious; he raises several grounds within this single point
    of error, and some grounds have multiple parts. A point of error that embraces more than one specific ground of error
    is multifarious. See Bell v. Tex. Dep’t of Crim. Justice–Institutional Div., 
    962 S.W.2d 156
    , 157–58 (Tex. App.—
    Houston [14th Dist.] 1998, pet. denied). If a point of error is multifarious, we could refuse to review it. See 
    id. 22 To
    prevail on a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel, a defendant must show that
    counsel’s performance was deficient and that the defendant was prejudiced thereby. Strickland v.
    Washington, 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 687 (1984); Thompson v. State, 
    9 S.W.3d 808
    , 812 (Tex. Crim. App.
    1999). Ineffective assistance of counsel claims must be firmly rooted in the record, with the record
    itself affirmatively demonstrating the alleged ineffectiveness. Lopez v. State, 
    343 S.W.3d 137
    ,
    142–43 (Tex. Crim. App. 2011).19 Failure to satisfy either prong of the Strickland test is fatal.
    Ex parte Martinez, 
    195 S.W.3d 713
    , 730 n.14 (Tex. Crim. App. 2006). Thus, we need not examine
    both Strickland prongs if one cannot be met. 
    Strickland, 466 U.S. at 697
    . “The record on direct
    appeal is frequently insufficiently developed to support a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel;
    the best way to make a sufficient record to support such a claim is by a hearing on a motion for
    new trial or a hearing on an application for writ of habeas corpus.” Jackson v. State, 
    877 S.W.2d 768
    , 772–73 (Tex. Crim. App. 1994) (Baird, J., concurring). “When facing a silent record as to
    defense counsel’s strategy, the court will not speculate as to defense counsel’s tactics or guess
    what the reasons might be for taking or not taking certain actions.” Smith v. State, 
    84 S.W.3d 36
    ,
    42 (Tex. App.—Texarkana 2002, no pet.) (citing 
    Jackson, 877 S.W.2d at 771
    ). Because the trial
    record is directed to the issues of guilt or innocence and punishment, an additional record focused
    specifically on the conduct of counsel, such as a record of a hearing on a motion for new trial
    asserting ineffective assistance of counsel, is generally needed. Kemp v. State, 
    892 S.W.2d 112
    ,
    115 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 1994, pet. ref’d). Only when “counsel’s ineffectiveness is
    19
    However, we may consider multifarious points of error if we can determine, with reasonable certainty, the alleged
    error about which complaint is made. See 
    id. at 157
    n.1. Because we are able to determine the errors about which
    Bates complains, we will, in the interest of justice, consider his complaints.
    23
    so apparent from the record” will an appellant prevail on direct appeal absent a hearing on a motion
    for new trial asserting an ineffective assistance of counsel claim. Freeman v. State, 
    125 S.W.3d 505
    , 506–07 (Tex. Crim. App. 2003); 
    Kemp, 892 S.W.2d at 115
    .
    A.      Failure to Object to Witness Testimony
    Bates’ first allegation of ineffective assistance is based on trial counsel’s failure to object
    to the testimony of Police Officer Johnny Bangs (due to the omission of Bangs’ name from the
    State’s witness list) and to the testimony of Police Officer Shawn Upchurch and of Dunagan (both
    of whom Bates now claims were allowed to testify as expert witnesses). Bates has not shown that
    he filed a motion for new trial, and there is no indication that Bates took any other action to secure
    trial counsel’s explanation of her trial strategy or reasons for her acts and omissions with regard to
    these witnesses.
    Bangs offered minimal testimony, describing only his response to an emergency call and
    his arrival at the scene. Through Bangs, the State offered State’s Exhibit 3 (the audio/video
    recording from the patrol car driven by Bangs). Although Bangs was not identified on the State’s
    witness list, we cannot say counsel’s performance was deficient in failing to object to this
    omission. The most significant part of Bangs’ testimony was his sponsorship of the audio/video
    recording. When that recording was offered, trial counsel objected as noted earlier in this opinion.
    However, she expressed no surprise at or said nothing to suggest she was unaware of the existence
    of the audio/video recording, its contents, or the State’s intent to offer it. In our deferential
    consideration of trial counsel’s representation, we can easily conjure at least one valid strategic
    reason for not objecting to Bangs’ testimony—counsel was fully aware that the State intended to
    24
    offer this recording into evidence. While we have found error in two aspects of the video, it could
    conceivably have had some evidentiary value, say, if the audio had not been admitted, but the
    video had. Bates has not satisfied the first Strickland prong with this allegation of ineffective
    representation.
    Next, Bates complains that trial counsel failed to object to the testimony of Upchurch and
    Dunagan regarding the mechanical operation of a clutch on a standard transmission vehicle
    (characterizing this as expert testimony).20 Bates has provided no authority to support the
    proposition that testimony about operating the clutch on a standard transmission vehicle requires
    expert testimony. Upchurch and Dunagan each based their testimony on their personal experience
    with vehicles, and both men testified that they had worked in or run automobile repair garages. A
    non-expert, or lay, witness may offer testimony based on his personal knowledge or experience.
    See Fairow v. State, 
    943 S.W.2d 895
    , 898 (Tex. Crim. App. 1997). Bates has not shown that either
    witness offered testimony based on “scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge” that
    would “help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue.” TEX. R.
    EVID. 702. Because we cannot conclude that either of these witnesses offered expert testimony or
    that there was any error in the admission of their testimony, we find that Bates has not shown
    counsel to have been deficient in failing to object.
    Upchurch testified that he believed Bates’ ramming of the porch was an intentional act.
    Dunagan testified that the operator of a standard-shift vehicle could not accidentally shift gears
    20
    The State had to prove Bates intentionally rammed Whitlock’s porch; Bates’ defense was that the collision was an
    accident. The State elicited testimony about engaging the clutch, versus releasing it, on vehicles with standard
    transmissions to establish that if the clutch were quickly released, the vehicle would come to a sudden stop.
    25
    from neutral to first gear and from reverse to first gear in Bates’ truck (which Dunagan said he had
    ridden in multiple times). “‘While a witness cannot possess personal knowledge of another’s
    mental state, he may possess personal knowledge of facts from which an opinion regarding mental
    state may be drawn. The jury is then free to give as much or as little weight to the opinion as it
    sees fit.’”21 Solomon v. State, 
    49 S.W.3d 356
    , 364 (Tex. Crim. App. 2001) (quoting Fairow v.
    State, 
    943 S.W.2d 895
    , 899 (Tex. Crim. App. 1997)). Lacking any indication of trial counsel’s
    strategy, we will not find that she rendered deficient representation based on the record before us.
    B.       State’s Closing Argument
    In its rebuttal to Bates’ closing argument, the State said, “We could have called other
    witnesses. We could have called neighbors. We could have called Mr. Duncan. Would it have
    changed anything?” The State also said, “And if the accelerator was stuck wouldn’t there have
    been physical evidence to support that?” Bates argues that these statements were impermissible
    bolstering by the State and that trial counsel was ineffective in failing to object.
    Bates’ defensive theory at trial was that his truck malfunctioned and that the collision was
    an accident resulting from that malfunction. In closing argument, Bates’ trial counsel stressed this
    causal theory. The State’s arguments mentioned above could be considered rebuttal argument
    made in response to Bates’ argument or deductions from or summary of the evidence. See
    Cannady v. State, 
    11 S.W.3d 205
    , 213 (Tex. Crim. App. 2000). Counsel could have believed these
    21
    Additionally, testimony that after the first collision, Bates backed up and hit the porch a second time, then attempted
    to back up again supports an inference of intentional act.
    26
    comments to be unobjectionable; without anything in the record to demonstrate this was not a
    reasonable strategy, we will not find deficient performance.
    C.      Failure to Object to Testimony
    Bates also complains of trial counsel’s failure to object to other witness testimony. He
    claims there should have been an objection lodged when Upchurch testified that in his experience
    investigating drivers who had struck pedestrians, the driver typically “check[s] on the welfare of
    the victim.” This statement appears to have been based on Upchurch’s personal experience. Bates
    seems to argue that this testimony was objectionable because Upchurch did not speak to Bates at
    the scene. However, Officer Brakebill testified that Bates told him he did not try to assist Whitlock
    because Bates himself was injured or knocked unconscious by the collision. Bates points to
    testimony of Whitlock and Dunagan, who testified that someone removed Bates from the truck
    and assisted him to sit on Dunagan’s porch. At most, these were conflicts in testimony, conflicts
    for resolution by the jury. We do not see how counsel was ineffective for failing to object. Bates
    also complains that the State, in closing arguments, stressed this inconsistency. The State argued,
    with the portion about which Bates complains in italic, as follows: “He backed up and tried to do
    it again. Then he gets out -- he intentionally turns off the car. He intentionally opens the door.
    He intentionally ignores Mr. Whitlock. He intentionally leaves away from Mr. Whitlock.[22] And
    the police are called.” (Emphasis added). In the context of the State’s argument, this was a
    22
    See Guevara v. State, 
    152 S.W.3d 45
    , 50 (Tex. Crim. App. 2004) (acts, words, or conduct of defendant may be
    considered and intent inferred therefrom).
    27
    reasonable deduction from, or summary of, the argument. Counsel cannot be faulted for failing to
    lodge an objection.
    D.       Failure to Object to Leading Questions
    Bates next complains of numerous instances of the State’s posing leading questions to its
    own witnesses. Although leading questions are objectionable, sound trial strategy may dictate that
    the practitioner refrain from lodging such objections. See Young v. State, 
    10 S.W.3d 705
    , 712, 713
    (Tex. App.—Texarkana 1999, pet. ref’d).
    We also point out that in considering all of the above complaints, we can find nothing that
    establishes a reasonable probability that but for these alleged deficiencies, the result of the trial
    would have been different. See 
    Strickland, 466 U.S. at 694
    .23
    Bates also complains the cumulate effect of the errors that he claims were made by trial
    counsel denied Bates a fair trial. We have found no error (or at least no error in light of our
    deferential review of trial counsel’s performance) in the trial representation received by Bates.
    “[W]e are aware of no authority holding that non-errors may in their cumulative effect cause error.”
    Chamberlain v. State, 
    998 S.W.2d 230
    , 238 (Tex. Crim. App. 1999); see also Rodriguez v. State,
    
    336 S.W.3d 294
    , 303 (Tex. App.—San Antonio 2010, pet. ref’d) (because “appellant did not meet
    her burden of establishing individual instances of ineffective assistance of counsel, we hold that
    she cannot show an adverse cumulative effect from the actions of trial counsel”).
    Although Bates’ complaints address incidents at the guilt phase of trial, we observe that despite being convicted of
    23
    a second degree felony and proof of an enhancing prior conviction, Bates was only sentenced to ten years’
    confinement, well within the lower range of the punishment that he could have been assessed.
    28
    We overrule Bates’ point of error complaining he received ineffective representation of
    counsel at trial. The trial court’s judgment and sentence are affirmed.
    Bailey C. Moseley
    Justice
    CONCURRING OPINION
    I agree with the majority’s conclusion that Bates’ conviction and sentence should be
    affirmed and that any error in admitting his statements was harmless. Because the State asserts
    Bartlett v. State as authority for its position that Bates was not in custody at the time he made the
    statements in question, I am writing to more fully explain why I believe that the statement “a valid
    investigative detention, which is characterized by lesser restraint than an arrest, does not constitute
    custody” goes too far in this case. Bartlett v. State, 
    249 S.W.3d 658
    , 668 (Tex. App.—Austin
    2008, pet. ref’d).
    I.      Introduction
    My disagreement with this statement from Bartlett arises from the intermingling of the law
    involving investigative detention, as contemplated by Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    (1968),24 with the
    24
    Although the phrase “investigative detention” is not found in the Terry opinion, it has evolved into a phrase
    synonymous with Terry stops. See generally United States v. Sharpe, 
    470 U.S. 675
    , 718 (1985) (Brennan, J.,
    dissenting), where the phrases “Terry encounters,” “Terry stops,” and “investigative detentions” are used
    interchangeably to describe the same event.
    29
    concept of custody, as contemplated by Miranda. To some extent, the intermingling is a result of
    terminology.       As explained below, the term “investigative detention” invokes the Fourth
    Amendment prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure, while Miranda deals with the
    Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Often, courts deciding the issue of whether
    Miranda warnings were required in a particular circumstance have spoken in terms of whether
    incriminating statements were the product of “investigative detention” or custodial interrogation.25
    Since Miranda only involves the question of whether an incriminating statement was made as a
    result of non-custodial or custodial interrogation, the use of the term “investigative detention” in
    this concurrence refers only to how the term is understood in the Fourth Amendment context.26
    25
    In Dowthitt, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals wrote, “We have outlined at least four general situations which
    may constitute custody. . . . Concerning the first through third situations, Stansbury [v. California, 
    511 U.S. 318
    (1994),] indicates that the restriction upon freedom of movement must amount to the degree associated with an arrest
    as opposed to an investigative detention.” Dowthitt v. State, 
    931 S.W.2d 244
    , 255 (Tex. Crim. App. 1996). Citing to
    this language, several court have intermingled Terry with Miranda and have concluded that an investigative detention
    is not custody. Ramirez v. State, 
    105 S.W.3d 730
    , 738–39 (Tex. App.—Austin 2003, no pet.); Loris v. State, Nos. 02-
    11-00464-CR, 02-11-00465-CR, 02-11-00466-CR, 
    2013 WL 3968079
    , at *3 n.4 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Aug. 1,
    2013, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for publication); Caballero v. State, No. 05-11-00367-CR, 
    2012 WL 6035259
    , at *4 (Tex. App.—Dallas Dec. 5, 2012, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for publication); Gonzalez v.
    State, No. 10-04-00164-CR, 
    2005 WL 1836939
    , at *2–3 (Tex. App.—Waco Aug. 3, 2005, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not
    designated for publication); see Ard v. State, 
    418 S.W.3d 256
    , 262 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2013, no pet.).
    Certainly, a Terry investigative detention can involve increasing restraint that leads to a person being in custody, but
    the investigative detention does not become custody. However, because neither Dowthitt nor Stansbury involved a
    Fourth Amendment issue, the term “investigative detention,” as used in Dowhitt, did not have the same meaning as a
    Terry investigative detention.
    26
    By using the terms “investigative detention” and “custody” to mark the two ends of the Fifth Amendment custody
    scale, courts effectively merge the two concepts when they should remain separate. As will be explained more fully
    below, the unintended consequence of this merger is that it allows the expansion of Terry to impermissibly encroach
    upon the protections of Miranda. A more accurate description would be to delineate between non-custodial encounters
    and custody under the Fifth Amendment and between investigative detentions and arrests under the Fourth
    Amendment. Nevertheless, the cases which frame the issue as a distinction between investigative detentions and
    custody are legion. Thus, to discuss the issue here, it is necessary to use that investigative detention/custody
    framework. Nevertheless, the use of the term investigative detention when discussing the Fifth Amendment should
    be interpreted as a non-custodial encounter under Miranda rather than a Fourth Amendment stop under Terry.
    30
    To explain why the statement in Bartlett—that “a valid investigative detention, which is
    characterized by lesser restraint than an arrest, does not constitute custody”—goes too far, it is
    necessary to review the definition of “custody” under Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    (1966),
    and its progeny. In California v. Beheler, 
    463 U.S. 1121
    (1983), the Supreme Court stated,
    Although the circumstances of each case must certainly influence a determination
    of whether a suspect is “in custody” for purposes of receiving of Miranda
    protection, the ultimate inquiry is simply whether there is a “formal arrest or
    restraint on freedom of movement” of the degree associated with a formal arrest.
    
    Id. at 1125.
    According to this definition, there are two types of custody under Miranda, “formal
    arrest custody” and “restraint on freedom of movement custody,” or “restraint custody,” for short.
    No controversy exists regarding the interplay between formal arrest custody under Miranda and
    “investigative detentions” under Terry; a person is clearly in custody under Miranda when he has
    been formally arrested under the Fourth Amendment. Yet, the interplay between investigative
    detention and restraint custody is more problematic.
    Two competing perspectives have arisen among courts regarding the relationship between
    restraint custody under Miranda and investigative detention under Terry. Courts adhering to the
    first perspective believe Miranda restraint custody exists somewhere between investigative
    detention and formal arrest on the same continuum as Fourth Amendment seizures. Under this
    view, which considers investigative detention, custody, and formal arrest as representing different
    degrees of restraint, courts find that restraint custody under Miranda and investigative detention
    under Terry cannot occur at the same time.27 Courts adhering to the second perspective believe
    27
    See United States v. Knox, 
    839 F.2d 285
    , 296 (6th Cir. 1988) (Jones, J., concurring) (concluding “since a valid Terry
    seizure is, by definition, not a ‘full seizure’—a term synonymous with ‘arrest’—a person properly seized on reasonable
    31
    that seizure under the Fourth Amendment and custody under Miranda are not on the same
    continuum, but are separate concepts which typically, though not always, overlap. 28 Under this
    perspective a person can be in custody during an investigative detention.29
    Bartlett adhered to the first perspective. In Bartlett, when the court of appeals stated that
    “a valid investigative detention . . . does not constitute custody,” then logically, it concluded that
    one cannot be in custody during an investigative detention. Because a person under formal arrest
    is in custody, and because an investigative detention is not a formal arrest, then formal arrest
    custody and investigative detention are mutually exclusive. To the extent this statement from
    Bartlett is limited to formal arrest custody, I have no disagreement. Yet, the State offers Bartlett
    as authority for the conclusion that one cannot be in restraint custody during an investigative
    detention. For the reasons set forth below, I believe that one can be in restraint custody during an
    and articulable suspicion for a brief investigatory detention could never be considered ‘in custody’ so long as the scope
    and duration of the Terry stop do not exceed the underlying justification”); see also United States v. Manbeck, 
    744 F.2d 360
    , 379 n.30 (4th Cir. 1984) (“[T]here are two types of seizures, one a permissible investigative stop, the second
    a detention equivalent to arrest. The Supreme Court has implied that custodial interrogations and Terry stops are
    mutually exclusive, i.e., if one is interrogated in a custodial situation the limits of Terry have necessarily been
    exceeded. . . . The type of ‘seizure’ that is similar to ‘custody,’ then, is seizure equivalent to arrest.” (citation omitted)).
    28
    See United States v. Newton, 
    369 F.3d 659
    , 673–74 (2d Cir. 2004) (recognizing debate among federal courts and
    citing cases that reached opposite conclusions on same question); see also United States v. Revels, 
    510 F.3d 1269
    ,
    1274 (10th Cir. 2007) (holding “although some detentions not rising to the level of a formal arrest may be reasonable
    within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment, those same detentions may nonetheless create the custodial situation
    in which Miranda was designed to operate”); United States v. Perdue, 
    8 F.3d 1455
    , 1464 (10th Cir. 1993) (holding
    defendant was in custody under Miranda while being detained under Terry).
    29
    If custody and investigative detention are mutually exclusive, then logically, they must exist on the same continuum
    because their exclusivity depends upon their relationship to each other. To use an analogy, under the first perspective,
    if the two concepts are mutually exclusive, then one cannot exist in both states of restraint at the same time, just as
    one cannot stand up while sitting down. The existence of one state requires the non-existence of the other state. On
    the other hand, a person can talk while standing or talk while sitting. The existence of speech does not require the
    non-existence of a person’s body position. Thus, the first perspective views restraint custody and investigative
    detentions on the same continuum, whereas the second perspective does not.
    32
    investigative detention. Therefore, I believe the statement in Bartlett, because it is not expressly
    limited to formal arrest custody, goes too far for application to the present case.30
    II.      Berkemer v. McCarty and the Effect of Permitting Increased Restraint During
    Investigative Detention on the Custody/Investigative Detention Analysis
    As noted by the majority, the court of appeals in Bartlett relied on Berkemer v. McCarty,
    
    468 U.S. 420
    (1984), as authority for its conclusion that “a valid investigative detention . . . does
    not constitute custody.” 
    Bartlett, 249 S.W.3d at 668
    . In that case, an Ohio state trooper stopped
    Berkemer after observing his car weaving in and out of the traffic lanes and subsequently arrested
    him for driving while under the influence after he failed a field-sobriety test. 
    Id. at 423.
    Berkemer
    made incriminating statements both on the roadside prior to his arrest and then again at the jail.
    
    Id. Yet, he
    was never administered the Miranda warnings at either location. 
    Id. at 424.
    The
    Supreme Court first noted that “[t]here can be no question that [Berkemer] was ‘in custody’ at
    least as of the moment he was formally placed under arrest and instructed to get into the police
    30
    Noting that this case only involves the admissibility of Bates’ statements under the Fifth Amendment, and not the
    admissibility of tangible evidence seized under the Fourth Amendment, it could be said that the State’s reliance on
    Bartlett is misplaced because Bartlett discusses Fourth Amendment seizure law, not Fifth Amendment custody law.
    Yet, this fact highlights the issue addressed here. Bartlett may have discussed Fourth Amendment law, but it was a
    Fifth Amendment case. Clearly, Fifth Amendment custody and Fourth Amendment seizure are separate analyses.
    Yet, there is no conceptual difference between an arrest under the Fourth Amendment and an arrest under the Fifth
    Amendment: a person is just as much under arrest either way. Consequently, the Fourth Amendment seizure and
    Fifth Amendment custody analyses converge at the point of arrest. The issue is whether seizure and custody converge
    only at that point or whether they also co-exist on the same continuum at all other points less than arrest.
    If the states of custody under the Fifth Amendment exist on the same continuum as the states of seizure under
    the Fourth Amendment at all points from investigative detentions to arrest, and if an investigative detention is not
    custody, then a finding that Bates was in an investigative detention under Terry would negate a finding that he was in
    custody under Miranda. That is the State’s position here: no Miranda warnings were required because Bates was not
    in custody, and Bates was not in custody because he was merely in an investigative detention under Terry. But if
    custody and seizure are separate considerations that only converge at the point of arrest but remain separate at all other
    points, and if the holding that an investigative detention is not custody means only that an investigative detention is
    not formal arrest custody, then we would need to evaluate whether Bates was in restraint custody under Miranda
    regardless of whether he was merely being detained under Terry.
    33
    car.” 
    Id. at 434.
    The Court then held that because the roadside stop was similar to the brief
    investigative detention authorized by Terry, Berkemer was not in custody for purposes of Miranda
    until he was formally arrested. 
    Id. at 442.
    Accordingly, the Supreme Court held that Berkemer’s
    statements made during the roadside stop were admissible, but his statements made at the police
    station were not. 
    Id. Thus, Berkemer
    clearly demonstrated that formal arrest under the Fourth Amendment and
    formal arrest custody under Miranda are the same, but in explaining why Berkemer’s roadside
    statements were admissible, the Supreme Court seemed to draw a bright line distinction between
    Terry stops and Miranda custody.
    [T]he usual traffic stop is more analogous to a so-called “Terry stop” than to a
    formal arrest. . . . The comparatively nonthreatening character of detentions of this
    sort explains the absence of any suggestion in our opinions that Terry stops are
    subject to the dictates of Miranda. The similarly noncoercive aspect of ordinary
    traffic stops prompts us to hold that persons temporarily detained pursuant to such
    stops are not “in custody” for the purposes of Miranda.
    
    Id. at 439–40
    (citations omitted). The Supreme Court went on to say,
    No more is implied by this analogy than that most traffic stops resemble, in duration
    and atmosphere, the kind of brief detention authorized in Terry. We of course do
    not suggest that a traffic stop supported by probable cause may not exceed the
    bounds set by the Fourth Amendment on the scope of a Terry stop.
    
    Id. at 439
    n.29. Finally, the Supreme Court noted, “If a motorist who has been detained pursuant
    to a traffic stop thereafter is subjected to treatment that renders him ‘in custody’ for practical
    purposes, he will be entitled to the full panoply of protections provided by Miranda.” 
    Id. at 440.
    Consequently, the Supreme Court seemed to hold that custody and investigative detention are on
    34
    the same continuum so that a person cannot be under investigative detention as defined by Terry
    and in custody under Miranda at the same time.31
    Yet, because the roadside detention in Berkemer was not very intrusive, it does not appear
    that restraint custody under Miranda was ever considered. Moreover, the degree of restraint
    permitted in Terry stops has increased significantly since Berkemer was decided. As noted by the
    United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit,
    The last decade, however, has witnessed a multifaceted expansion of Terry.
    Important for our purposes is the trend granting officers greater latitude in using
    force in order to ‘neutralize’ potentially dangerous suspects during an investigatory
    detention. . . . Thus, today, consonant with this trend, we held that police officers
    acted reasonably under the Fourth Amendment when they, without probable cause
    and with guns drawn, stopped Mr. Perdue’s car, forced him to get out of his car,
    and demanded that he lie face down on the ground.
    
    Perdue, 8 F.3d at 1464
    .32 Consequently, Berkemer did not resolve the issue of whether there could
    be an investigative detention so intrusive that it significantly restrained a person’s “‘freedom of
    31
    In Florida v. Royer, the Supreme Court appeared to suggest the same conclusion:
    What had begun as a consensual inquiry in a public place had escalated into an investigatory
    procedure in a police interrogation room, where the police, unsatisfied with previous explanations,
    sought to confirm their suspicions. The officers had Royer’s ticket, they had his identification, and
    they had seized his luggage. Royer was never informed that he was free to board his plane if he so
    chose, and he reasonably believed that he was being detained. At least as of that moment, any
    consensual aspects of the encounter had evaporated, and we cannot fault the Florida Court of Appeal
    for concluding that Terry v. Ohio and the cases following it did not justify the restraint to which
    Royer was then subjected. As a practical matter, Royer was under arrest.
    Florida v. Royer, 
    460 U.S. 491
    , 503 (1983); see also Howes v. Fields, 
    132 S. Ct. 1181
    , 1190 (2012) (“[T]he ‘temporary
    and relatively nonthreatening detention involved in a traffic stop or a Terry stop does not constitute Miranda
    custody.’”) (quoting Maryland v. Shatzer, 
    130 S. Ct. 1213
    , 1224 (2010) (citation omitted)). Other courts have reached
    this conclusion as well. See cases cited supra note 24.
    32
    In Berkemer Revisited: Uncovering the Middle Ground Between Miranda and the New Terry, 77 FORDHAM L. REV.,
    2779, 2795–2811 (2009), the author traces the expansion of Terry from its origin in response to the racial tensions of
    the late 1960s, through the War on Drugs of the 1980s and 1990s, to post-9/11 America, noting,
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    movement’ of the degree associated with formal arrest” such that it would constitute restraint
    custody and investigative detention at the same time.
    III.     Factors Supporting a Separate Analysis of Custody and Investigative Detentions
    If restraint custody and investigative detention are on the same continuum and, therefore,
    mutually exclusive, and if an investigative detention is not a formal arrest requiring probable cause,
    then logically, as the scope of permissible intrusiveness under Terry increases, the scope of
    restraint custody under Miranda must decrease. On the other hand, if restraint custody and
    investigative detentions are separate states of existence that typically overlap, then permissible
    restraint under Terry can expand to the edge of formal arrest, yet leave room for restraint custody
    to co-exist. There are three reasons why the second conclusion should prevail over the first.
    A.       The Miranda Warnings Requirement and the Terry Investigative Detention
    Exception Were Adopted to Accomplish Different Goals
    First, the determination of whether a seizure is an investigative detention under Terry rather
    than an arrest under the Fourth Amendment, and the determination of whether a person is in
    Beginning around the time of Berkemer, appellate courts seized on this rationale to condone more
    intrusive police practices under Terry that would help police officers more effectively investigate
    their suspicion without converting the detention into an arrest. Justified in large part by an officer’s
    interest in ensuring his own protection and preventing a suspect’s flight during a Terry stop, most
    circuits today have approved police use of drawn weapons or handcuffs to restrain criminal suspects.
    Courts have also permitted police to demand a suspect to lay prostrate on the ground during a stop
    and frisk search. In addition, courts have allowed police to forcibly transport suspects (most notably
    to a patrol car) under a valid Terry stop.
    As a result, lower courts, while maintaining that Terry remains a limited exception, have
    authorized conduct similar to that associated with custodial arrest without converting that stop into
    a full-fledged arrest.
    
    Id. at 2805
    (citations omitted); see also State v. Sheppard, 
    271 S.W.3d 281
    , 289 n.28 (Tex. Crim. App. 2008) (holding
    “a Fourth Amendment Terry detention is not a custodial arrest, and the use of handcuffs does not automatically convert
    a temporary detention into a Fourth Amendment arrest”).
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    restraint custody for purposes of Miranda, are clearly separate analyses with clearly separate goals.
    The “inquiry into the circumstances of temporary detention for a Fifth and Sixth Amendment
    Miranda analysis requires a different focus than that for a Fourth Amendment Terry stop. . . . The
    purpose of permitting a temporary detention without probable cause or a warrant is to protect
    police officers and the general public. United States v. Smith, 
    3 F.3d 1088
    , 1096, 1097 (7th Cir.
    1993). By contrast, “the basis for [the Miranda] decision was the need to protect the fairness of
    the trial . . . .” Schneckloth v. Bustamonte, 
    412 U.S. 218
    , 240–41 (1973). In Schneckloth, the
    Supreme Court went on to say,
    There is a vast difference between those rights that protect a fair criminal
    trial and the rights guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment. . . .
    ....
    The Fourth Amendment “is not an adjunct to the ascertainment of truth.” The guarantees
    of the Fourth Amendment stand “as a protection of quite different constitutional values—
    values reflecting the concern of our society for the right of each individual to be let alone.”
    ...
    ....
    . . . . The considerations that informed the Court’s holding in Miranda are simply
    inapplicable to the present case.
    
    Id. at 241–42,
    246. Accordingly, as more sophisticated weapons are developed, and particularly
    in the age of terrorism, it stands to reason that officer and public safety would spur increasing
    restraint in investigative detentions. By contrast, to suggest that less fairness or truth would ever
    be acceptable in a trial or proceedings leading to trial would be absurd.
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    B.       The Differences Between the Exceptions to the Fourth And Fifth Amendments
    Were Based on a Balance of Competing Interests by the Constitution’s
    Framers, and Reviewing the Concepts Together Would Upset that Balance
    Second, even though the privacy interests protected by the Fourth and Fifth Amendments
    overlap, the exceptions to their protections are significantly different and inapplicable to each
    other. Fisher v. United States, 
    425 U.S. 391
    , 400 (1976). For instance, although a grant of
    immunity by the State will overcome the Fifth Amendment privilege, immunity will not overcome
    the Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable and warrantless searches and seizures. 
    Id. On the
    other hand, the Fourth Amendment right may be overcome by a warrant, probable cause, or
    reasonableness, whereas the Fifth Amendment privilege cannot. 
    Id. Essentially, under
    the Fourth
    Amendment, the State may have both the evidence and the prosecution, but under the Fifth
    Amendment, the State must choose between having the testimony and having the prosecution.33
    The Supreme Court noted that these distinctions were not incidental, but were carefully crafted
    into the Bill of Rights by the Constitution’s framers:
    They struck a balance so that when the State’s reason to believe incriminating
    evidence will be found becomes sufficiently great, the invasion of privacy becomes
    justified and a warrant to search and seize will issue. They did not seek in still
    another Amendment[—]the Fifth[—]to achieve a general protection of privacy but
    to deal with the more specific issue of compelled self-incrimination.
    
    Id. Therefore, logic
    dictates that under Fisher, any attempt to engraft the Fourth Amendment
    exceptions onto the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination would be unconstitutional.
    33
    See Lefkowitz v. Turley, 
    414 U.S. 70
    , 79 (1973) (“[T]he price for incriminating answers from third-party witnesses
    is sufficient immunity to satisfy the imperatives of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compelled self-
    incrimination.”).
    38
    As noted previously, it is easy to contemplate situations where an investigative detention
    might require significant restraint on freedom of movement that would be reasonable under the
    circumstances, and therefore, permissible under the Fourth Amendment. As also noted, no such
    balancing process was included with respect to the Fifth Amendment right against self-
    incrimination. Yet, if restraint custody and investigative detention are mutually exclusive, then
    expanding the definition of investigative detention under Terry would necessarily contract the
    definition of restraint custody under Miranda.         If the expansion of Terry is justified by
    reasonableness, then the corresponding contraction of Miranda is also a product of reasonableness.
    Yet, reasonableness is not an exception to the Fifth Amendment and Miranda. Thus, contracting
    Miranda’s definition of restraint custody in order to accommodate expansion of investigative
    detention under Terry would effectively allow Fourth Amendment reasonableness to invade into
    the Fifth Amendment’s restraint custody analysis.
    C.      The Supreme Court Contemplated that Terry’s Investigative Detention
    Exception Might Expand, but it Intended Miranda’s Requirements to Remain
    Constant
    Finally, language from the Supreme Court’s opinions themselves supports the conclusion
    that expansion of permissible restraint used in Terry investigative detentions would be allowed,
    whereas the definition of restraint custody under Miranda would remain constant. In Terry, the
    Supreme Court expressly left it to later cases and courts to identify the boundaries of permissible
    restraint in investigative detentions.
    We need not develop at length in this case . . . the limitations which the Fourth
    Amendment places upon a protective seizure and search for weapons. These
    limitations will have to be developed in the concrete factual circumstances of
    individual cases. . . . The sole justification of the search in the present situation is
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    the protection of the police officer and others nearby, and it must therefore be
    confined in scope to an intrusion reasonably designed to discover guns, knives,
    clubs, or other hidden instruments for the assault of the police officer.
    
    Terry, 392 U.S. at 29
    (citations omitted). By contrast, the Supreme Court has ruled that “‘[f]idelity
    to the doctrine announced in Miranda requires that it be enforced strictly, but only in those types
    of situations in which the concerns that powered the [Miranda] decision’” are clearly present.
    
    Howes, 132 S. Ct. at 1192
    (quoting 
    Berkemer, 468 U.S. at 437
    ). Accordingly, the ceiling above
    permissible restraint in an investigative detention has been raised, but the floor beneath restraint
    custody under Miranda has not moved with it. Not surprisingly, as the investigative detention
    ceiling rises, situations have arisen where the restraint used in an investigative detention becomes
    so great that what may have started as a non-custodial encounter becomes restraint custody under
    Miranda. This is exactly what the Court observed in United States v. Perdue:
    One cannot ignore the conclusion, however, that by employing an amount of force
    that reached the boundary line between a permissible Terry stop and an
    unconstitutional arrest, the officers created the “custodial” situation envisioned by
    Miranda and its progeny.
    
    Perdue, 8 F.3d at 1464
    .
    IV.    Texas Cases Considering This Issue
    The Court of Criminal Appeals does not appear to have addressed this issue specifically.
    In Dowthitt v. State, the court held that there are
    at least four general situations which may constitute custody: (1) when the suspect
    is physically deprived of his freedom of action in any significant way, (2) when a
    law enforcement officer tells the suspect that he cannot leave, (3) when law
    enforcement officers create a situation that would lead a reasonable person to
    believe that his freedom of movement has been significantly restricted, and
    (4) when there is probable cause to arrest and law enforcement officers do not tell
    the suspect that he is free to leave. Concerning the first through third situations,
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    [Stansbury v. California, 
    511 U.S. 318
    (1994)] indicates the restriction upon
    freedom of movement must amount to the degree associated with an arrest as
    opposed to an investigative detention.
    Dowthitt v. State, 
    931 S.W.3d 244
    , 255 (Tex. Crim. App. 1996) (citation omitted). On first glance,
    this language suggests that the Court views custody on the same continuum as investigative
    detentions, yet, neither Dowthitt nor Stansbury involved a Fourth Amendment issue, and, as in
    Berkemer, it does not appear the Court considered restraint custody during the course of an
    investigative detention. Moreover, Dowthitt was decided prior to the escalation of restraint in
    investigative detentions observed by the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals in Perdue.
    In State v. Ortiz, the Tenth Court of Appeals clearly considered the issues separately,
    holding that the determination of “whether handcuffing [the defendant] placed him in custody for
    Miranda purposes does not turn on the reasonableness, under the Fourth Amendment, of [the
    officer’s] decision to handcuff him for officer safety. The two inquiries are related but they are
    not the same.” State v. Ortiz, 
    346 S.W.3d 127
    , 133 (Tex. App.—Amarillo 2011), aff’d, 
    382 S.W.3d 367
    , 374 (Tex. Crim. App. 2012). The Court of Appeals went on to say that “[a] conclusion Ortiz
    was in custody under Miranda when he was handcuffed means neither that he actually was under
    arrest nor that Johnson’s stated concerns for officer safety were unreasonable, under a Fourth
    Amendment analysis.” 
    Id. The Court
    of Criminal Appeals affirmed the lower court’s decision,
    noting
    A normal traffic stop is a non-custodial detention because it is brief and relatively
    non-coercive. In holding that a traffic stop is generally less coercive than a
    custodial detention, the Berkemer Court observed that, during a traffic stop, a
    detainee is typically “only confronted by one or at the most two policemen[, which]
    further mutes his sense of vulnerability.” By the time he made the cocaine
    statements in this case, however, the appellee’s detention had escalated into
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    something inherently more coercive than a typical traffic stop. . . . While this is
    hardly an overwhelming show of force, it adds at least marginally to the court of
    appeals’ [] conclusion that the appellee was in custody for Miranda purposes at that
    time.
    
    Ortiz, 382 S.W.3d at 374
    (citations omitted). Nevertheless, the Court of Criminal Appeals did not
    specifically adopt the lower court’s reasoning that investigative detentions and custody are
    separate analyses even though it affirmed the lower court’s ultimate conclusion. Yet, its reasoning
    that Ortiz’ original “typical traffic stop” had escalated into an “inherently more coercive”
    “[investigative] detention” that constituted Miranda custody is not inconsistent with the lower
    court’s reasoning.
    Subsequently, in Estrada v. State, No. PD-0106-13, 
    2014 WL 969221
    (Tex. Crim. App.
    Mar. 12, 2014) (not designated for publication),34 the Court of Criminal Appeals distinguished
    Ortiz and held, in an unpublished opinion, that the defendant was not in custody during the course
    of a traffic stop.
    In the end, Estrada can identify only one circumstance that might lead a reasonable
    person to consider himself in custody for Miranda purposes: the fact that Officer
    Rodriguez asked Estrada and her passenger whom the drugs belonged to. Every
    other factor identified by this Court and the court of appeals—that Estrada was not
    handcuffed; that she was not subjected to a pat-down; that the “ordinary” number
    of police vehicles and officers were present during her detention; that she was not
    informed that she was not free to leave; and that she was not separated from her
    passenger and interrogated individually—indicate that the stop was a simple
    investigative detention and never rose to the level where a reasonable person would
    consider himself in custody.[35]
    34
    While Rule 77.3 of the Texas Rules of Appellate Procedure prohibits the citation of unpublished Texas Court of
    Criminal Appeals opinions as authority, they “can be cited to demonstrate conflict among the courts of appeals or to
    demonstrate how [the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals] and other courts have interpreted and applied constitutional
    law.” Ex parte Denton, 
    399 S.W.3d 540
    , 553 n.30 (Tex. Crim. App. 2013) (orig. proceeding) (Keller, P.J.,
    concurring); see TEX. R. APP. P. 77.3.
    35
    In other words, the Court determined that the officer’s interrogation remained non-custodial.
    42
    
    Id. at *5.
    More importantly, the Court of Criminal Appeals rejected Estrada’s argument that
    “‘[a]ccording to Berkemer, at the time Officer Rodriguez posed his question to Ms. Estrada, this
    encounter was no longer an investigative detention’ because the only purpose of his question was
    to obtain an incriminating response.” 
    Id. The court
    held,
    Berkemer does not stand for such a proposition. In Berkemer, the Court indicated
    that a non-custodial, investigative detention will typically involve “a moderate
    number of questions to determine his identity and to try to obtain information
    confirming or dispelling the officer’s suspicions.” This statement does not limit
    questions asked during an investigative detention to non-incriminating ones. The
    fact that an officer is authorized to ask questions for the purpose of confirming or
    dispelling his suspicions assumes that such questions could be potentially
    incriminating. Ultimately, the Supreme Court in Berkemer stated that a
    determination of custody turns on whether a detainee’s freedom is curtailed to a
    degree associated with formal arrest, the test this Court and the court of appeals
    have applied to this case.
    
    Id. (citations omitted).
    The Court of Criminal Appeals once again focused the issue on the amount
    of restraint involved, not on whether the existence of an investigative detention rendered custody
    impossible.
    Given its prior holding in Sheppard that “a Fourth Amendment Terry detention is not a
    custodial arrest, and the use of handcuffs does not automatically convert a temporary detention
    into a Fourth Amendment arrest,” the Court’s reasoning in Ortiz suggests that the Court would
    conclude that custody and seizure are separate analyses in an appropriate case. 
    Sheppard, 271 S.W.3d at 289
    n.28. On the other hand, one reading of Dowthitt and Estrada might suggest that
    the Court considers them on the same continuum. Yet, despite the use of the term “investigative
    detention” in Dowthitt and Estrada, nothing suggests that the Court considers a Fourth
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    Amendment Terry detention on the same continuum as Fifth Amendment custody. In any event,
    the issue does not appear to have been conclusively clarified by the Court of Criminal Appeals.
    V.     Application to the Present Case
    In the present case, it is clear that Bates was in custody when he was handcuffed and placed
    into the back seat of the patrol car. The fact that he was not formally arrested until approximately
    eleven minutes later does not change the fact that he was in custody because he was under
    “‘restraint on freedom of movement’ of the degree associated with a formal arrest.’” 
    Beheler, 463 U.S. at 1125
    . Yet, as demonstrated above, it is also possible he was being held in an investigative
    detention until formally arrested, and the State is not without support from the record to make that
    argument. Although a witness said Bates “tried to kill that man,” viewing the scene objectively at
    the time the officers arrived, the position of Bates’ vehicle was just as consistent with an accident
    or mechanical failure as it was with an intentional act. Only after obtaining more information were
    the officers able to develop probable cause to arrest him for aggravated assault with a deadly
    weapon. Likewise, the presence of the shirtless man, his agitated state, and his statements that the
    officers better “[g]et him” because he was “gonna do something stupid” would have justified the
    officers placing Bates in handcuffs and securing him in the patrol car in order to prevent the
    situation from escalating into further violence until they could obtain more information. And
    Bartlett supports the State’s argument that Bates was merely being detained, at least when he was
    initially handcuffed and placed in the patrol car. Nevertheless, even if the State was correct in
    asserting that Bates was merely being detained under Terry, it does not require a finding that he
    was not also in custody under Miranda.
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    Consequently, the Court of Appeals’ statement in Bartlett is correct insofar as it addresses
    formal arrest custody. Because formal arrest custody and formal arrest are the same, and because
    an investigative detention is not formal arrest, then “a valid investigative detention, which is
    characterized by lesser restraint than an arrest, does not constitute [formal arrest] custody.”
    
    Bartlett, 249 S.W.3d at 668
    . Yet, as has been shown above, the statement goes too far if applied
    to restraint custody. For these reasons, the State’s reliance on Bartlett is misplaced. Because Bates
    was in restraint custody, Miranda warnings were required, and in the absence of warnings, the
    statements were inadmissible. Nevertheless, for the reasons noted by the majority, any error in
    admitting those statements was harmless.
    Ralph K. Burgess
    Justice
    Date Submitted:        March 4, 2015
    Date Decided:          June 17, 2015
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