Anaheim Gardens v. United States , 125 Fed. Cl. 88 ( 2016 )


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  •        In the United States Court of Federal Claims
    No. 93-655C
    (E-Filed: February 4, 2016)
    )
    ANAHEIM GARDENS, et al.,                                 )
    ) Deposition Discovery; Protective
    Plaintiffs,                         ) Order; RCFC 26(b); RCFC
    ) 26(c)(1); RCFC 30(b)(6)
    v.                                                       )
    )
    THE UNITED STATES,                                       )
    )
    Defendant.                          )
    )
    Harry J. Kelly, III, Washington, D.C., for plaintiffs.
    David A. Harrington, Senior Trial Counsel, with whom were Joyce R. Branda, Acting
    Assistant Attorney General, Robert E. Kirschman, Jr., Director, and Franklin E. White,
    Jr., Assistant Director, Commercial Litigation Branch, Civil Division, United States
    Department of Justice, Washington, D.C., for defendant.
    OPINION and ORDER
    CAMPBELL-SMITH, Chief Judge
    This is a temporary regulatory takings case. Plaintiffs are owners of low-income
    housing who claim a taking of their contractual right to prepay government-insured
    mortgages on their respective housing projects, and thus to terminate certain
    governmental restrictions on rents and other aspects of the properties’ use. Defendant is
    the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD, the
    government, or defendant).
    Presently before the court is defendant’s motion for a protective order in
    connection with six Rule 30(b)(6) notices issued by plaintiffs. Def.’s Mot., ECF No. 353;
    see also Def.’s Reply, ECF No. 362. Plaintiffs oppose defendant’s motion, defending
    their requests as necessary to satisfy their burden of proof under Penn Central Transp. Co.
    v. City of New York, 
    438 U.S. 104
    (1978). Pls.’ Resp., ECF No. 358. Each party filed
    an appendix in support of their briefs. Def.’s App. (DA), ECF No. 353-1; Def.’s Supp.
    App. (DSA), ECF No. 362-1; Pls.’ App. (PA), ECF No. 358-1. Defendant’s motion is
    ripe for decision.
    For the reasons explained below, defendant’s motion is GRANTED-IN-PART
    and DENIED-IN-PART.
    I.     Background
    A.     Preservation Statutes
    Plaintiffs allege that the enactment of two federal statutes, the Emergency Low
    Income Housing Preservation Act of 1987, Pub. L. No. 100-242, § 202, 101 Stat. 1877
    (1988) (ELIHPA), and the Low-Income Housing Preservation and Resident
    Homeownership Act of 1990, Pub. L. No. 101-625, 104 Stat. 4249 (1990) (LIHPRHA),
    collectively known as the Preservation Statutes, prevented them from exercising their
    contractual right to repay their mortgages upon the twentieth anniversary of the issuance
    of the mortgage. Plaintiffs’ prepayment rights were later restored by a third federal
    statute, the Housing Opportunity Program Extension Act of 1996 (Hope Act), Pub. L. No.
    104-120, 110 Stat. 834 (1996).
    The history and purpose of the Preservation Statutes have been set forth in detail
    in prior decisions by both the Federal Circuit and this court. See Cienega Gardens v.
    United States (Cienega X), 
    503 F.3d 1266
    , 1270-73 (Fed. Cir. 2007); Cienega Gardens v.
    United States (Cienega VIII), 
    331 F.3d 1319
    , 1324-28 (Fed. Cir. 2003); Cienega Gardens
    v. United States (Cienega IV), 
    194 F.3d 1231
    , 1234-35 (Fed. Cir. 1998); Anaheim
    Gardens v. United States, 
    107 Fed. Cl. 404
    , 406-08 (2012), recons. granted-in-part, 
    109 Fed. Cl. 33
    (2013), aff’d in part, rev’d in part & remanded sub nom. Biafora v. United
    States, 
    773 F.3d 1326
    (Fed. Cir. 2014)).
    While a review of the entire history is unnecessary here, the court provides the
    following brief relevant history for ease of reference:
    In 1961, Congress amended the National Housing Act to allow private
    developers to meet the needs of moderate income families. Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1270
    . Among other things, the amendment provided financial
    incentives to private developers to build low income housing. 
    Id. These incentives
    included below-market mortgages, which permitted the owners to
    borrow 90% of the cost of the project. 
    Id. While the
    term of the mortgage
    was 40 years, the contracts allowed the developer to prepay the mortgage
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    after 20 years. 
    Id. Congress also
    protected the lenders against default by
    authorizing the Federal Housing Administration [FHA] to insure the
    mortgages. 
    Id. at 1270–71.
    The tax laws at the time provided a number of
    tax incentives, which allowed general and limited partners to take large
    deductions in the earlier years of the investment. 
    Id. at 1271.
    The highly
    leveraged nature of the investment made the tax benefits large in comparison
    to the small up-front investment. 
    Id. These development
    programs were regulated by the Department of
    Housing and Urban Development (HUD), and the developers were required
    to sign a regulatory agreement binding them to get approval from HUD for
    certain relevant decisions, for example increases in rent. 
    Id. The developer
           also signed a secured note and a mortgage. HUD, in turn, provided mortgage
    insurance for the investment. 
    Id. The restrictions
    in the regulatory agreement
    were in effect as long as HUD insured the mortgage on the property; for
    practical purposes this meant the developers were subject to HUD regulation
    until the mortgage was paid off. 
    Id. The twenty
    year prepayment option in
    the mortgage therefore gave the developers an opportunity to cast off the
    regulatory burden and convert their development to market rate housing.
    While this plan induced developers to provide low income housing,
    Congress ultimately grew worried that participants would prepay their
    mortgages and exit the program en mass. 
    Id. at 1272.
    In order to avoid the
    resulting shortage of low income housing, Congress enacted ELIHPA and
    LIHPRHA. 
    Id. The exact
    restrictions placed on the developers are detailed
    in, e.g., Cienega X, but the salient issue in this case is that an owner was no
    longer free to prepay the mortgage after twenty years.
    CCA Assocs. v. United States, 
    667 F.3d 1239
    , 1242-43 (Fed. Cir. 2011).
    B.     Plaintiffs
    On April 30, 2013, the previously assigned judge consolidated Anaheim Gardens
    v. United States, No. 93-655, and Algonquin Heights Assocs., L.P. v. United States, No.
    97-582, and designated Anaheim Gardens as the lead plaintiff. Order, ECF No. 327.
    Fifty-one plaintiffs are currently litigating their claims in this consolidated matter.
    By agreement of the parties, plaintiffs are proceeding to trial in subsets known as
    waves. See Joint Status Report 1, ECF No. 330; Discovery Order, ECF No. 331. The
    parties jointly designated six plaintiffs as the First Wave plaintiffs, and only these six
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    plaintiffs are now conducting fact and expert discovery.1 Scheduling Order, ECF No.
    378. The six First Wave plaintiffs are Algonquin Heights plaintiffs Buckman Gardens,
    L.P. and Chauncy House Company, and Anaheim Gardens plaintiffs Cedar Gardens
    Associates, Rock Creek Terrace L.P., 620 Su Casa Por Cortez, and 3740 Silverlake
    Village, L.P. Joint Status Report, ECF No. 330; Notice, ECF No. 332.
    C.     Instant Discovery Dispute
    Each First Wave plaintiff issued defendant a separate Rule 30(b)(6) notice seeking
    testimony on essentially the same eight requests.2 See DA001-017.
    Defendant moved for a protective order, arguing that plaintiffs’ requests were
    vague, overly broad, and sought testimony about irrelevant subjects and time periods. 3
    Def.’s Mot. 6-14. Defendant made specific objections to each of plaintiffs’ eight
    requests, in some cases seeking to limit the request (first, seventh and eighth requests),
    and in other cases seeking to strike the request in its entirety (second, third, fourth, fifth,
    and sixth requests).
    Defendant also moved for a protective order seeking to limit the six First Wave
    plaintiffs to deposing its Rule 30(b)(6) witness over only one seven-hour day, rather than
    the six days plaintiffs sought through their six separate notices. Def.’s Mot. 5-6. The
    court previously ruled on this portion of defendant’s motion, deciding that plaintiffs
    could depose defendant’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness for up to three seven-hour days.
    1
    There may be limited exceptions in which a non-First Wave plaintiff is involved in
    discovery to preserve witness testimony for trial. See Order, ECF No. 327.
    2
    Three requests sought testimony specific to the city in which each plaintiff’s
    property was located (second, sixth and eighth requests), and three requests sought
    testimony for slightly different time periods, which varied with the dates of each
    plaintiff’s investment and alleged taking (sixth, seventh and eighth requests). See
    DA001-017. In the second, sixth and eighth requests, plaintiffs seek testimony about the
    rental markets in (1) Boston, Massachusetts, (2) Encinitas, California, (3) Rockville,
    Maryland, (4) Los Angeles, California, (5) Fairfax County, Virginia, and Alexandria,
    Virginia, and (6) Fresno, California. DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011, DA014 &
    DA017.
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    In compliance with Rule 26(c)(1), of the Rules of the United States Court of
    Federal Claims (RCFC), defendant stated it “conferred in good faith to attempt to resolve
    this dispute without Court action, but such efforts have been unsuccessful.” Def.’s Mot.
    1, ECF No. 353.
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    Anaheim Gardens v. United States, No. 93-655, 
    2014 WL 4401529
    , at *3-6 (Fed. Cl.
    Sept. 5, 2014).
    Finally, defendant asked this court to quash the deposition notice issued by First
    Wave plaintiff 3740 Silverlake Village, L.P. (Silverlake Village). Def.’s Mot. 6 n.4.
    Defendant argued that Silverlake Village was not a plaintiff in this matter, as explained in
    its then-pending motion for summary judgment seeking the dismissal of Silverlake
    Village. 
    Id. The court
    denied defendant’s motion, Anaheim Gardens v. United States,
    
    118 Fed. Cl. 669
    (2014), thus mooting defendant’s request to quash the notice issued by
    Silverlake Village.
    II.    Legal Standard
    A.     Rule 30(b)(6) Discovery
    Either party may take discovery that is “relevant to any party’s claim or defense.”
    RCFC 26(b)(1). With regard to Rule 30(b)(6) discovery,
    [i]n its notice or subpoena, a party may name as the deponent . . . a
    governmental agency . . . and must describe with reasonable particularity the
    matters for examination. The named organization must then designate one
    or more . . . persons who consent to testify on its behalf[.] . . . The persons
    designated must testify about information known or reasonably available to
    the organization.
    RCFC 30(b)(6). The government agency then
    has “an affirmative duty to produce a representative who can answer
    questions that are both within the scope of the matters described in the notice
    and are ‘known or reasonably available’ to the corporation.” King v. Pratt &
    Whitney, 
    161 F.R.D. 475
    , 476 (S.D. Fla. 1995) (quoting FRCP 30(b)(6)),
    aff’d, 
    213 F.3d 646
    (11th Cir. 2000). . . . Thus, RCFC 30(b)(6) “implicitly
    requires the designated representative to review all matters known or
    reasonably available to it in preparation for the Rule 30(b)(6) deposition.
    This interpretation is necessary in order to make the deposition a meaningful
    one and to prevent . . . a half-hearted inquiry. . . .” Heartland Surgical
    Specialty Hosp., LLC v. Midwest Div., Inc., No. 05–2164–MLB–DWB,
    
    2007 WL 1054279
    , at *3 (D. Kan. Apr. 9, 2007).
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    A-G Innovations, Inc. v. United States, 
    82 Fed. Cl. 69
    , 80 (2008).4
    However, “there exists no obligation to produce [Rule 30(b)(6)] witnesses who
    know every single fact surrounding a matter, only those that bear relevance or are
    material to events directly underlying a dispute.” Dairyland Power Coop. v. United
    States, 
    79 Fed. Cl. 709
    , 715 (2007) (citing Banks v. Office of the Senate Sergeant–at–
    Arms, 
    241 F.R.D. 370
    , 373 (D.D.C. 2007); Wilson v. Lakner, 
    228 F.R.D. 524
    , 529 n.7
    (D. Md. 2005)). “[T]he designated deponent must be prepared ‘to the extent that matters
    are reasonably available.”’ 
    Banks, 241 F.R.D. at 373
    (quoting 
    Wilson, 228 F.R.D. at 528
    ).
    B.     Rule 26 Protective Order
    “A party or any person from whom discovery is sought may move for a protective
    order.” RCFC 26(c)(1). If “good cause” exists, “[t]he court may . . . issue an order to
    protect a party or person from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden
    or expense.” 
    Id. “[T]he party
    seeking the protective order bears the burden of showing good
    cause.” Forest Prods. Nw., Inc. v. United States, 
    62 Fed. Cl. 109
    , 114 (2004), aff’d, 
    453 F.3d 1355
    (Fed. Cir. 2006). “Good cause requires a showing that the discovery request is
    considered likely to oppress an adversary or might otherwise impose an undue burden.”
    Forest Prods. Nw., 
    Inc., 453 F.3d at 1361
    . “[B]road allegations of harm, unsubstantiated
    by specific examples, are insufficient to justify issuance of a protective order.” Lakeland
    Ptnrs, L.L.C. v. United States, 
    88 Fed. Cl. 124
    , 133 (2009). As this court has explained,
    to prevail on an objection to allegedly burdensome discovery:
    [T]he objecting party must do more than “simply intone [the] familiar litany
    that the [discovery sought is] burdensome, oppressive or overly broad.” The
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    “[I]nterpretation of the court’s rules will be guided by case law and the Advisory
    Committee Notes that accompany the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.” RCFC rules
    committee’s note to 2002 amendment, at 1. RCFC 26(b)(2)(C), RCFC 26(c)(1) and
    RCFC 30(b)(6), all relevant to this motion, are identical to their counterparts in the
    Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The court therefore relies on cases interpreting each of
    these federal rules, as well as cases interpreting this court’s rules. With regard to RCFC
    26(b)(1), also relevant to this motion, the court is aware that the Advisory Committee on
    Civil Rules significantly amended Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1) as of December 1, 2015. Prior
    to this amendment, however, RCFC 26(b)(1) was identical to its federal counterpart.
    With regard to Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1), the court relies only on cases issued prior to
    December 1, 2015.
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    objecting party bears the burden of demonstrating “specifically how, despite
    the broad and liberal construction afforded the federal discovery rules, each
    [request] is not relevant or how each question is overly broad, [unduly]
    burdensome or oppressive by submitting affidavits or offering evidence
    revealing the nature of the burden.”
    
    Id. at 133
    n.6 (some alterations in original) (quoting Lamoureux v. Genesis Pharmacy
    Servs., Inc., 
    226 F.R.D. 154
    , 158-59 (D. Conn. 2004)).
    In deciding whether to limit discovery, a trial court should “consider ‘the totality
    of the circumstances, weighing the value of the material sought against the burden of
    providing it,’ and taking into account society’s interest in furthering ‘the truth seeking
    function’ in the particular case before the court.” Patterson v. Avery Dennison Corp.,
    
    281 F.3d 676
    , 681 (7th Cir. 2002) (quoting Rowlin v. Alabama, 
    200 F.R.D. 459
    , 461
    (M.D. Ala. 2001)). Rule 26(b)(2)(C) authorizes the court to impose limits if:
    the burden or expense of the proposed discovery outweighs its likely benefit,
    considering the needs of the case, the amount in controversy, the parties’
    resources, the importance of the issues at stake in the action, and the
    importance of the discovery in resolving the issues.
    RCFC 26(b)(2)(C)(iii).
    The Supreme Court has further opined that “discovery, like all matters of
    procedure, has ultimate and necessary boundaries. . . . [A]s Rule 26(b) provides, . . .
    limitations come into existence when the inquiry touches upon the irrelevant or
    encroaches upon the recognized domains of privilege. Hickman v. Taylor, 
    329 U.S. 495
    ,
    507-08 (1947). Ultimately, whether to issue a protective order is subject to the broad
    discretion of the trial court. Florsheim Shoe Co. v. United States, 
    744 F.2d 787
    , 797
    (Fed. Cir. 1984) (“Questions of the scope and conduct of discovery are, of course,
    committed to the discretion of the trial court.”). The court has a variety of options should
    it find a motion for protective order is warranted, including “forbidding the disclosure or
    discovery” or “forbidding inquiry into certain matters, or limiting the scope of disclosure
    or discovery to certain matters.” RCFC 26(c)(1)(A), (D).
    III.   Discussion
    The court considers defendant’s objections to each of First Wave plaintiffs’ eight
    requests in turn.
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    A.            Plaintiffs’ First Request
    Plaintiffs seek testimony about studies prepared or commissioned by HUD, or any
    other government agency, between 1970 and 1996, regarding the effects of any action—
    including, but not limited to, the Preservation Statutes—by the United States to restrict
    the ability of owners of HUD-financed housing properties to prepay their HUD-insured
    mortgages.5 DA001, DA004, DA007, DA010, DA013 & DA016 (No. 1).
    Defendant states it knows of only three reports that satisfy this request, as below,
    and will prepare its witness to answer appropriate questions about each report. See Def.’s
    Mot. 8; Def.’s Reply 9.
    (1) U.S. General Accounting Office,6 GAO/RCED-94-177FS, Multifamily
    Housing, Information on Projects Eligible for Preservation Assistance (1994);
    (2) HUD Office of Inspector General, 95-BO-114-0001, Evaluation Report – HUD
    Multifamily Preservation Program (1995); and
    (3) Congressional Budget Office Staff Memorandum, Implications of the
    Prepayment Provisions in the Cranston-Gonzalez Act (1992).
    Def.’s Mot. 8; Def.’s Reply 7-8, 19.
    Defendant otherwise asserts plaintiffs’ first request is “vague and breathtaking in
    scope,” and is “not stated with ‘reasonable particularity.”’ Def.’s Mot. 7 (quoting RCFC
    30(b)(6)). Defendant points out that the request concerns a time period of twenty-six
    years, seeks information from every federal government agency, and extends beyond the
    Preservation Statutes. 
    Id. Accordingly, defendant
    seeks a protective order to preclude
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    Any analysis, study, summary, investigation, evaluation, or examination,
    conducted, prepared or commissioned by HUD or any other Government agency, at
    any time between 1970 and 1996, whether formal or informal, and whether complete
    or incomplete, related to or regarding the impact(s), effect(s) and/or consequence(s) of
    any action by the United States to restrict the ability of the owners of Section 22 l (d)(3)
    or Section 236 housing properties to prepay the HUD-insured mortgages on their
    properties, including without limitation, the provisions and terms of the Emergency
    Low Income Housing Preservation Act of 1987 (“ELIHPA”) and/or the Low Income
    Housing Preservation and Resident Homeownership Act of 1990 (“LIHPRHA”).
    DA001, DA004, DA007, DA010, DA013 & DA016 (No. 1).
    6
    The United States General Accounting Office (GAO) is now known as the
    Government Accountability Office.
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    plaintiffs from inquiring about any report other than the three identified reports. Def.’s
    Mot. 8; Def.’s Reply 9.
    1.      Twenty-Six Year Period
    Plaintiffs defend the twenty-six year period for their request by pointing out that
    defendant’s own discovery requests cover the same period, Pls.’ Resp. 2-3, and that “the
    entire twenty-six year period is relevant because it is directly tethered to the facts and
    events at issue, and as a result, it is not unnecessarily broad or ‘breathtaking’ in scope.”
    
    Id. at 3.
    That a time period is relevant for some requests, however, does not necessarily
    mean that it is relevant for all requests. In determining a relevant time period for
    plaintiffs’ first request, the task is to identify the earliest date the concerns that led to the
    enactment of ELIHPA, on February 5, 1988, could have resulted in the type of study
    contemplated by plaintiffs. The legislative history for ELIHPA shows that Congress
    became concerned about the impact of owners exercising their prepayment rights on the
    low-income housing stock as early as the mid-1980s.
    Over the past year, the Committee has had several hearings on the potential
    loss of units from the subsidized housing stock due to the prepayment of
    insured multifamily mortgages. The potential loss of units to low and
    moderate income families over the next several years could be anywhere
    from 500,000 to 1 million units.
    H.R. Rep. No. 100-122(I), at 35 (1987), as reprinted in 1987 U.S.C.C.A.N. 3317, 3351;
    see also CCA Assocs. v. United States, 
    91 Fed. Cl. 580
    , 587 (2010) (“In the mid-1980s,
    Congress became concerned that owners of housing insured under Section 221(d)(3)
    would begin to exercise their prepayment rights, thereby reducing the total number of
    low-income housing units.”), aff’d in part, rev’d in part & remanded, 
    667 F.3d 1239
    (Fed.
    Cir. 2011).
    Plaintiffs provide no information to support a finding that information responsive
    to their first request existed prior to the mid-1980s, and the court is aware of none. The
    court finds that plaintiffs’ request is overbroad, and defendant is granted a protective
    order for plaintiffs’ first request for information prior to 1982.
    2.      Every Federal Government Agency
    Plaintiffs take the position that a “common sense” interpretation of their request
    would mean “the only federal agencies the Government needs to seek information from
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    are those that are reasonably likely to possess relevant responsive information, and that is
    most certainly not ‘every agency in the entire Federal government.’” Pls.’ Resp. 4.
    Plaintiffs claim this is not the first time the government has argued that one of their
    deposition topics is overly broad, relying on an unreasonable interpretation of their
    deposition notice. “[T]he Government has already been admonished in this case that
    discovery requests are not to be read in a vacuum and interpreted in an unreasonable
    manner just so that they can be objected to as overly broad.” Pls.’ Resp. 3 (citing
    Algonquin Heights v. United States, No. 97-582, 
    2008 WL 2019025
    , at *4 (Fed. Cl. Feb.
    29, 2008) (order granting plaintiffs’ motion to compel additional Rule 30(b)(6)
    testimony)).
    Plaintiffs misstate the issue in the Algonquin Heights ruling, which was not
    whether plaintiffs’ deposition request was overly broad. In Algonquin Heights, plaintiffs
    noticed a Rule 30(b)(6) deposition to include testimony about the “document retention
    policies of HUD.” Algonquin Heights, 
    2008 WL 2019025
    , at *2. After defendant’s
    witness, according to plaintiffs, was unprepared to answer its questions “concerning how
    HUD managed the actual files of the Plaintiffs in this case, including what would be
    included in those files and where they would be kept,” 
    id., plaintiffs moved
    to compel
    additional testimony “about [HUD’s] document retention practices and policies,” 
    id. at *1.
    In its opposition, defendant argued that plaintiffs’ attempt to compel testimony about
    HUD’s document retention “practices and policies” went beyond the scope of their
    deposition notice, in which they sought testimony about HUD’s document retention
    “policies.” 
    Id. at *3.
    The court was unpersuaded by defendant’s attempt to draw a distinction between
    the terms practice and policy, finding that to do so “would write into RCFC 30(b)(6) a
    much more stringent standard than what the rule requires,” which is “reasonable
    particularity.” 
    Id. at *4.
    Common sense dictates that it would be both counterproductive and wasteful
    for plaintiffs to inquire solely into HUD’s document retention policy without
    also intending to place that inquiry within a relevant litigation context, i.e.,
    how HUD effectuated, or did not effectuate, that policy in this case. See Pls.’
    Mot. 5 (“The fact that HUD had a policy, however, does not explain how
    HUD followed-or did not follow-that policy in practice.”).
    
    Id. Thus the
    Algonquin Heights court refused to permit defendant to rely on its narrow
    interpretation of plaintiffs’ notice, an interpretation the court found at odds with common
    sense.
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    In this matter, plaintiffs argue that defendant is required to use its common sense
    to narrow the boundaries of their first request, as “the outer limits of the First subject
    matter are clear if common sense is used.” Pls.’ Resp. 4. The Algonquin Heights ruling
    provides plaintiffs with no support, as nothing in that ruling suggests that the testifying
    party (defendant) has the burden of using its “common sense” to determine the “outer
    limits” of the examining party’s (plaintiffs) notice.
    Rather, the burden of defining its deposition topics with reasonable particularity
    rests with plaintiffs, not defendant. See, e.g., 8A Charles Alan Wright et al., Federal
    Practice & Procedure § 2103, Westlaw (database updated Apr. 2015) (footnote omitted)
    (stating that if “the party seeking [Rule 30(b)(6) deposition] discovery has [failed to]
    adequately designate[] the subjects on which it wants information . . ., the corporate party
    may seek relief from the court.”); see also Whiting v. Hogan, No. 12-cv-8039, 
    2013 WL 1047012
    , at *11 (D. Ariz. Mar. 14, 2013) (“The burden is on . . . the party requesting the
    deposition[] to satisfy the ‘reasonable particularity’ standard of Rule 30(b)(6).”)
    Defendant’s obligation is to prepare its witness to “testify about information
    known or reasonably available to the organization.” RCFC 30(b)(6) (emphasis added).
    In effect, plaintiffs have acknowledged their first request goes beyond this standard, and
    is overbroad, as they have indicated their willingness to eliminate a few federal agencies
    from their first request.
    Fundamentally, the only federal agencies the Government needs to seek
    information from are those that are reasonably likely to possess relevant
    responsive information, and that is most certainly not “every agency in the
    entire Federal government.” If the Government requires assistance to figure
    it out, the First Wave Plaintiffs are comfortable concluding that it is unlikely
    that the Department of Transportation, Department of Defense, Department
    of Health and Human Services, or other like agencies will possess any
    relevant responsive information, and so those agencies are not captured by
    the scope of the subject matter.
    Pls.’ Resp. 4.
    The court finds that plaintiffs’ notice for testimony about reports from “any other
    Government agency” is overbroad. Defendant’s request for a protective order as to the
    federal agencies from which it must seek information is granted-in-part. Defendant may
    limit its search to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, and any of
    its predecessors, the U.S. Government Accountability Office, and any of its predecessors,
    and the Congressional Budget Office.
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    3.     Preservation Statutes
    Plaintiffs posit that the ideas resulting in the Preservation Statutes preceded their
    enactment, and that such information, if it exists, is relevant. Pls.’ Resp. 5. “If in fact the
    Government did study, analyze, investigate or evaluate another means of taking away the
    First Wave Plaintiffs’ prepayment rights other than by having Congress enact ELIHPA
    and LIHPRHA, then that information is encompassed within the scope of the First subject
    matter.” 
    Id. Defendant offered
    no reply to plaintiffs’ explanation.
    The court finds that plaintiffs are correct, that such information would be relevant
    to plaintiffs’ first request, and this part of plaintiffs’ first request is not overbroad.
    Defendant’s request for a protective order is denied to the extent it seeks to limit its
    inquiry to the Preservation Statutes.
    Defendant’s motion for a protective order for plaintiffs’ first request is
    GRANTED-IN-PART and DENIED-IN-PART. Defendant may limit its search to
    information from 1982 to 1996 from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
    Development, and any of its predecessors, the U.S. Government Accountability Office,
    and any of its predecessors, and the Congressional Budget Office. Defendant’s motion is
    otherwise denied.
    B.            Plaintiffs’ Second Request
    Plaintiffs seek testimony about studies prepared by HUD, or any other government
    agency, between 1970 and 1996, regarding the effects of ELIHPA or LIHPRHA on the
    rental market in which the property of each First Wave plaintiff is located. 7 DA001-002,
    DA004-5, DA007-8, DA010-11, DA013-14 & DA016-17.
    Defendant states that plaintiffs have not specified any report, Def.’s Mot. 12, and
    that it “is unaware of any such report,” Def.’s Reply 14. Defendant “seeks a protective
    order stating that it need not designate a witness to address the second matter for
    examination;” defendant reasons that when an organization possesses no knowledge as to
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    “Any analysis, study, summary, investigation, evaluation, or examination,
    conducted, prepared or commissioned by HUD or any other Government agency, at
    any time between 1970 and 1996, whether formal or informal, and whether complete or
    incomplete, related to or regarding the impact(s), effect(s) and/or consequence(s) of the
    provisions and terms of ELIHPA and/or LIHPRHA on the rental markets in Boston,
    Massachusetts.” DA001-002, DA004-5, DA007-8, DA010-11, DA013-14 & DA016-17.
    (No. 2).
    12
    matters listed in the notice and is unable to prepare a witness, it has no duty to proffer a
    witness.8 Def.’s Mot. 13 (citing Barron v. Caterpillar, Inc., 
    168 F.R.D. 175
    , 177-78 (E.D.
    Pa. 1996); 7 Moore’s Federal Practice § 30.25[3] (2014)).
    Plaintiffs respond that they expect the government’s witness to testify “about the
    existence or lack thereof of the requested reports, analyses, studies, etc.” Pls.’ Resp. 8.
    Rule 26(b) provides that any party “may obtain discovery regarding any
    nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party’s claim or defense—including the
    existence, description, nature, custody, condition, and location of any documents or other
    tangible things and the identity and location of persons who know of any discoverable
    matter.” RCFC 26(b) (emphasis added). “A witness ordinarily cannot escape
    examination by denying knowledge of any relevant facts, since the party seeking to take
    the deposition is entitled to test the witness’s lack of knowledge.” 8A Charles Alan
    Wright et al., Federal Practice & Procedure § 2037, Westlaw (database updated Apr.
    2015); cf. Iris Corp. Berhad v. United States, 
    84 Fed. Cl. 489
    , 494 (2008) (declining to
    issue protective order for a Rule 30(b)(6) deposition, despite the testifying party’s
    argument that it had already produced all available evidence, as “[p]arties to litigation do
    not have to accept their opponent’s statement that all relevant evidence has been
    produced[,] . . . they are entitled to test this assertion in questioning witnesses during
    depositions.”)
    Nor does defendant’s cited authority provide it with support, as the court in Barron
    addressed an inapposite point—that is, whether a testifying party must provide a second
    Rule 30(b)(6) witness when the examining party found the testimony of the first witness
    to be deficient. See 
    Barron, 168 F.R.D. at 177
    . While the cited portion of Moore’s
    Federal Practice does state that “if an organization truly does not possess knowledge as to
    matters listed in the notice, and is unable to prepare a designee, it has no duty to make a
    designation under Rule 30(b)(6),’” the case law in support of this statement shows that
    this treatise similarly considers the testifying party’s duty when the examining party is
    dissatisfied with its Rule 30(b)(6) witness’s testimony. 7 Moore’s Federal Practice §
    30.25[3] n.15 (2014) (citing 
    Barron, 168 F.R.D. at 177
    -78; Dravo Corp. v. Liberty Mut.
    Ins. Co., 
    164 F.R.D. 70
    , 75-76 (D. Neb. 1995) (considering whether a testifying party
    must designate a second Rule 30(b)(6) witness for additional testimony when the
    examining party was dissatisfied)).
    8
    Defendant also notes that four of the six First Wave plaintiffs did not allege a
    taking claim under ELIHPA; thus it argues these four plaintiffs are not entitled to
    discovery on ELIHPA. See Def.’s Mot. 12 n.10. As discussed later, this argument is
    unpersuasive. See infra Part III.D.2 (fourth and fifth requests).
    13
    At this point, the court would ordinarily deny defendant’s request for a protective
    order for plaintiffs’ second request. But, the court observes that plaintiffs’ second request
    includes the same two parameters for which the court granted defendant a protective
    order as to plaintiffs’ first request—the time period (1970 to 1996) and the information
    source (any other Government agency). Notwithstanding defendant’s position that it is
    aware of no responsive reports, there is no purpose served in protecting defendant from
    these overbroad parameters in one request, but not in another. And “[i]t is ‘axiomatic
    that a trial court has broad discretion to fashion discovery orders[.]”’ AG-Innovations,
    
    Inc., 82 Fed. Cl. at 76
    (quoting White Mountain Apache Tribe of Ariz. v. United States, 
    4 Cl. Ct. 575
    , 583 (1984)).
    As plaintiffs seek studies about the “impact(s), effect(s) and/or consequence(s) of
    the provisions and terms of ELIHPA and/or LIHPRHA,” 
    see supra
    note 7, the enactment
    of ELIHPA on February 5, 1988 would be the earliest possible date of such a study. For
    the reasons discussed in plaintiffs’ first request, 
    see supra
    Part III.A.2, plaintiffs’ second
    request is limited to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, and any of
    its predecessors, the U.S. Government Accountability Office, and any of its predecessors,
    and the Congressional Budget Office.
    Defendant’s motion for a protective order for plaintiffs’ second request is
    GRANTED-IN-PART and DENIED-IN-PART. Defendant may limit its search to
    information from 1988 to 1996 from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
    Development, and any of its predecessors, the U.S. Government Accountability Office,
    and any of its predecessors, and the Congressional Budget Office. Defendant’s motion is
    otherwise denied.
    C.     Plaintiffs’ Third Request
    Plaintiffs seek testimony regarding any oral or written communication, between
    HUD and the owners of each property, directly or indirectly related to the development
    or construction of their property.9 DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011, DA014 & DA017.
    9
    “Any communications, oral or written, between HUD (or its predecessor agency
    the Federal Housing Administration (“FHA”)) and the owner(s) (or the owner’s
    representative(s) or agent(s)) of [the property], directly or indirectly, related to the
    development and/or construction of the property.” DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011,
    DA014 & DA017.
    14
    1.     Oral Communications
    Defendant states that it is “unaware of any particular verbal communications
    between HUD and plaintiffs regarding the development or construction of the plaintiffs’
    respective multi-family housing projects.” Def.’s Mot. 9 n.7. Defendant takes the
    position that it is not obligated to “designate a witness to testify about information that is
    not reasonably available,” which would include “verbal discussions that took place . . .
    more than forty years ago,” if at all, with employees who “retired long ago.” Def.’s Mot.
    9 (citing 
    Barron, 168 F.R.D. at 177
    -78). As previously discussed in the second request,
    Barron provides defendant with no support for this position. 
    See supra
    Part III.B.
    Plaintiffs respond that defendant’s inability to identify particular verbal
    communications is “not a sufficient basis” for a protective order, and that defendant has a
    duty to contact its former employees. Pls.’ Resp. 10 (citing QBE Ins. Corp. v. Jorda
    Enters., 
    277 F.R.D. 676
    , 689 (S.D. Fla. 2012) (“[A] corporation with no current
    knowledgeable employees must prepare its designees by [conducting] . . . if necessary,
    interviews of former employees or others with knowledge.”)).
    Defendant replies that the “[f]ederal employees involved during the development
    phase retired decades ago and are unavailable.” Def.’s Reply 9. Defendant repeats that it
    is unaware of any particular verbal communications and points to an interrogatory
    response in which it stated as much. Def.’s Reply 9 (citing DSA12 (Def.’s Resp.
    Interrog. No. 12)).
    Defendant’s interrogatory response notwithstanding, plaintiff is entitled to
    question defendant’s witness about any matter “relevant to any party’s claim or
    defense—including . . . the identity and location of persons who know of any
    discoverable matter.” RCFC 26(b)(1). Plaintiffs correctly rely on QBE Insurance
    for defendant’s duty to prepare its 30(b)(6) witness by attempting, if necessary, to
    interview knowledgeable former employees. See Pls.’ Resp. 10. However, the court in
    QBE Insurance also said that a corporation “must perform a reasonable inquiry for
    information that is reasonably available to it,” QBE Ins. 
    Corp., 277 F.R.D. at 689
    , and
    that a “corporation cannot be faulted for not interviewing individuals who refuse to speak
    with it,” 
    id. at 691.
    Defendant’s motion for a protective order for the third request is denied with
    respect to oral communications.
    15
    2.     Written Communications
    The dispute regarding written communications centers on a set of documents
    defendant produced to each First Wave plaintiff—known as the Washington Docket—
    that relates to the construction and development of each project. Def.’s Mot. 9.
    Defendant acknowledges that the documents contained therein are relevant, as they
    “could conceivably relate to the investment-backed expectations prong of Penn Central.”
    
    Id. Defendant describes
    each of the six Washington Dockets as “voluminous,” and
    because of this, it wants plaintiffs to identify those documents about which plaintiffs seek
    to question defendant’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness. 
    Id. Plaintiffs agree
    that the relevant documents are voluminous. “[T]here are six First
    Wave plaintiffs, which means that, collectively, there is a large volume of documents
    required to prepare a witness for each individual Plaintiff’s case . . . .” Pls.’ Resp. 12.
    Plaintiffs nonetheless refuse to identify specific documents within each Washington
    Docket, leading defendant to argue that plaintiffs have “failed to provide reasonable
    specificity about the matters for examination.” Def.’s Mot. 10.
    Plaintiffs suggest that if they are forced to specify particular documents in each
    Washington Docket, they will be unable to ask defendant about the existence of relevant
    written communications other than those included in each Washington Docket.
    First Wave Plaintiffs should be allowed to confirm under oath what
    communications took place. If under oath, the Government’s deponent
    identifies other communications beyond what is in the Washington Dockets,
    those other communications are also relevant subject matters for discussions.
    The wrong approach would be to grant a protective order to prevent the First
    Wave Plaintiffs from confirming the extent of those communications, or [to]
    require them, as a precondition, to identify a specific list of documents.
    Pls.’ Resp. 12 n.3.
    Plaintiffs are correct that they are entitled to ask defendant about the existence of
    written communications. See RCFC 26(b)(1) (“Parties may obtain discovery regarding
    any nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party’s claim or defense—including the
    existence, description, nature, custody, condition, and location of any documents . . . .”)
    (emphasis added). Plaintiffs do not explain, however, how identifying documents within
    each Washington Docket would prevent them from asking defendant’s witness about the
    existence of other written communications, and the court is aware of no reason why this
    would be so.
    16
    Plaintiffs rely on Magnesium Corporation of America for the proposition that a
    protective order is not justified merely because a Rule 30(b)(6) witness is called upon to
    testify about a large volume of documents, as defendant’s witness will be in this case.
    Pls.’ Resp. 12 (citing United States v. Magnesium Corp. of Am., No. 2:01-cv-40, 
    2006 WL 6924985
    , at *4 (D. Utah Nov. 27, 2006) (order granting Magnesium’s motion to
    compel designation of Rule 30(b)(6) witnesses)).
    Magnesium Corporation sought to depose the United States Environmental
    Protection Agency (EPA) about three subject matters, including the “EPA’s evaluation of
    ecological and human risk at the Rowley[, Utah] facility and similar sites elsewhere, and
    facts pertaining to EPA’s practices regarding remediation and corrective action at the
    Rowley facility and similar other sites.” Magnesium Corp., 
    2006 WL 6924985
    , at *1
    (emphasis added). The EPA refused to designate a witness, claiming that the notices
    were not stated with reasonable particularity, as the EPA had thousands of environmental
    sites nationwide, and it was unable to designate a witness unless Magnesium Corporation
    specified the sites for which it sought information. 
    Id. at *2.
    The district court found the EPA’s objection unpersuasive, pointing both to the
    plain text of the notices and a limitation to which Magnesium Corporation agreed during
    briefing. 
    Id. at *3.
    As the court saw it, “more than half of the subjects upon which
    [Magnesium] seeks information pertain only to the Rowley, Utah facility” and with
    regard to information for “other sites,” Magnesium sought only “those risk assessments
    that were relied upon as a substantial factor in corrective or remedial action decisions,”
    for which the court found the EPA should be able to identify a witness. 
    Id. As neither
    the text of the First Wave plaintiffs’ notice—nor plaintiffs’ briefing on the motion for
    protective order—provides the particularity found in the Magnesium Corporation notice,
    this case does not support plaintiffs’ position.
    The court finds more persuasive here the reasoning of a different district court
    called upon to decide whether Rule 30(b)(6) deposition topics were stated with
    reasonable particularity.
    Some of the requested categories cover a large amount of information that
    may be irrelevant to Plaintiffs’ [the examining party’s] claims. The
    categories “company policies and procedures,” “company employee
    retention process,” “employer handbooks”, “employment manuals” are
    overbroad as they are not limited to areas relevant to this personal injury
    matter. Although the categories of “employee specific employment file” and
    “any file materials” are limited to Defendant Dana Hogan, there may be
    numerous records contained therein. The inquiry into Hogan’s employment
    file should be further limited to the relevant topics in this case. The burden
    17
    is on Plaintiffs, as the party requesting the deposition, to satisfy the
    “reasonable particularity” standard of Rule 30(b)(6). Without further
    clarification, Defendants cannot reasonably designate and prepare a
    corporate representative to testify on their behalf regarding these broad lines
    of inquiry.
    Whiting, 
    2013 WL 1047012
    , at *11 (emphasis added) (order amending plaintiff’s Rule
    30(b)(6) deposition notice and granting motion to compel deposition). Similarly, the
    documents at issue in First Wave plaintiffs’ deposition of defendant are “voluminous,”
    and as they “relate[] to the construction and development of each project,” they will
    cover numerous topics that are not relevant to plaintiffs’ investment-backed expectations.
    The court also considers the recommendation of the Advisory Committee on Civil
    Rules on the factors that weigh in favor of permitting extended time for a deposition.
    The court previously granted plaintiffs an extended period in which to depose defendant’s
    Rule 30(b)(6) witness, over the objection of defendant. See Anaheim Gardens, 
    2014 WL 4401529
    , at *7. According to the Advisory Committee,
    [p]arties considering extending the time for a deposition--and courts asked to
    order an extension--might consider a variety of factors. . . . If the examination
    will cover events occurring over a long period of time, that may justify
    allowing additional time. In cases in which the witness will be questioned
    about numerous or lengthy documents, it is often desirable for the
    interrogating party to send copies of the documents to the witness sufficiently
    in advance of the deposition so that the witness can become familiar with
    them.
    Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(d) advisory committee’s note to 2000 amendment (emphasis added).
    The court finds it would be an undue burden, in terms of time and expense, for
    defendant to prepare a witness about a large number of documents that will be of no
    interest to plaintiffs. Defendant’s motion for a protective order for plaintiffs’ third
    request is GRANTED-IN-PART and DENIED-IN-PART. Plaintiffs are directed to
    identify those documents within each of the six Washington Dockets about which it
    wishes to question defendant’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness. Defendant’s motion is otherwise
    denied.
    The court notes that defendant attempts to take the position that it will limit
    preparation of its witness to “authenticat[ing] documents in the Washington Dockets and
    to answer[ing] basic questions about those documents.” Def.’s Mot. 9. Plaintiffs are
    18
    correct that defendant may not limit itself solely to authenticating documents. Pls.’ Resp.
    12-13 (citing 
    Wilson, 228 F.R.D. at 528
    ).
    D.            Plaintiffs’ Fourth and Fifth Requests
    Plaintiffs seek testimony regarding any oral or written communication, between
    HUD and the owners of the property, related to the mortgage—including, but not limited
    to—the right to prepay the mortgage without HUD’s consent (fourth request10), and the
    impact on plaintiffs of the provisions in the Preservation Statutes that restricted each
    plaintiff’s ability to prepay the mortgage without HUD’s consent (fifth request11).
    DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011, DA014 & DA017.
    Defendant seeks a protective order “precluding the fourth and fifth matters for
    examination” for two reasons. Def.’s Mot. 13-14. First, defendant objects that “plaintiffs
    seek testimony about the effect of the Preservation Statutes on the contractual right to
    prepay their respective mortgages,” a question settled in February 2013 when the judge
    previously assigned to this case ruled that plaintiffs’ claims were ripe, because it was
    futile for plaintiffs to seek permission to prepay their mortgages. 
    Id. at 13
    (citing
    Anaheim Gardens v. United States, 
    109 Fed. Cl. 33
    (2013). Defendant argues that re-
    litigation of a settled issue is precluded under the law of the case doctrine, and any
    discovery on this issue would be unduly burdensome. Def.’s Reply 15.
    Second, defendant points out that the four Anaheim Gardens First Wave plaintiffs
    brought their claims under LIHPRHA only. Def.’s Mot. 13-14. Thus defendant seeks a
    protective order to preclude those plaintiffs from seeking testimony about the effect of
    ELIHPA on them. 
    Id. 10 “Any
    communications, oral or written, between HUD (or its predecessor agency
    FHA) and the owner(s) ((or the owner’s representative(s) or agent(s)) of [the
    property] related to the terms of the mortgage and mortgage note, including but not
    limited to, the right to prepay the mortgage without HUD’s consent after [the date of
    the alleged taking].” DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011, DA014 & DA017 (No. 4).
    11
    “The impact(s), effect(s) or consequence(s) on the Plaintiff of the
    provisions and terms of ELIHPA and/or LIHPRHA that restricted the ability of
    the Plaintiff to prepay the mortgage on [the property] without HUD’s consent
    after [the date of the alleged taking].” DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011, DA014
    & DA017 (No. 5).
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    1.     Plaintiffs’ Right to Prepay Their Mortgages
    Plaintiffs acknowledge that both requests “involve” their prepayment rights, but
    dispute “that the subject matter [of either request] is solely and exclusively related to
    ripeness.” Pls.’ Resp. 13-14.
    Defendant replies that “[p]laintiffs’ discovery is not objectionable because it
    relates to ripeness; it is objectionable because the viability of a request to prepay under
    the Preservation Statues was determined by the Court during the ripeness phase.” Def.’s
    Reply 15 (citing Anaheim Gardens, 
    109 Fed. Cl. 33
    ).
    Defendant is correct that neither party could re-litigate previously settled issues,
    including the ripeness of plaintiffs’ claims. “The law of the case doctrine ‘posits that
    when a court decides upon a rule of law, that decision should continue to govern the same
    issues in subsequent stages in the same case.”’ Sacramento Mun. Utility Dist. v. United
    States, 566 F. App’x 985, 995 (Fed. Cir. 2014) (citing Christianson v. Colt Indus.
    Operating Corp., 
    486 U.S. 800
    , 815-16 (1988)). The court agrees that testimony about
    the viability of a request to prepay under the Preservation Statues is unnecessary in the
    merits phase of this litigation, and thus is unduly burdensome.
    Defendant’s objection, however, assumes that whether plaintiffs could prepay
    their mortgages is the only question that falls within their fourth and fifth requests.
    Considering the text of plaintiffs’ requests, it is not apparent to the court that plaintiffs
    seek such testimony. Nor is it clear why plaintiffs would do so, as they were the
    prevailing party on the ripeness issue. See Anaheim 
    Gardens, 109 Fed. Cl. at 39
    (“Plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment on ripeness is granted . . . .”).
    The court does not read plaintiffs’ requests as narrowly as defendant.
    2.     ELIHPA Discovery for Four First Wave Plaintiffs
    Defendant objects to discovery about ELIHPA as irrelevant, because plaintiffs
    have no ELIHPA claim. Def.’s Mot. 13. By so objecting, defendant effectively takes the
    position that it is impossible for discovery about ELIHPA to be relevant to plaintiffs’
    LIHPRHA claims.
    Plaintiffs disagree, characterizing LIHPRHA as the “successor statute to ELIHPA,
    and not a separate, unrelated replacement statute.” Pls.’ Resp. 18. Further, plaintiffs
    point out that their discovery rights are not limited by defendant’s view of a legal
    argument or theory, and defendant may not “use its theory of a legal issue to block
    relevant discovery.” 
    Id. at 20.
                                                   20
    In reply, defendant emphasizes that “ELIHPA and LIHPRHA are distinct statutes[,
    and] taking claims based on ELIHPA and LIHPRHA are distinct.” Def.’s Reply 18
    (citing Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1279
    ). The portion of Cienega X on which defendant
    relies is provided below.
    [W]e consider whether ELIHPA constituted a taking. The owners do
    not separately argue that ELIHPA constitutes a taking, and there is no basis
    for treating ELIHPA and LIHPRHA the same. ELIHPA was a temporary
    restriction that was enacted on February 5, 1988, and was only in effect until
    LIHPRHA was enacted on November 28, 1990. None of the owners’ twenty-
    year prepayment deadlines expired during the period that ELIHPA was in
    effect, and the owners that entered into use agreements all signed the
    agreements well after LIHPRHA was enacted. There has been no showing
    that ELIHPA restricted the plaintiff owners’ freedom of action in any
    meaningful way. . . . Accordingly, we find that ELIHPA did not effectuate a
    taking with respect to these owners.
    Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1279
    (emphasis added) (footnote omitted). The court does not
    read the Cienega X decision that no taking occurred to limit discovery in the way
    defendant urges.
    It is not the case that “a fact must be alleged in a pleading for a party to be entitled
    to discovery of information concerning that fact. [Rather,] that . . . fact must be germane
    to a specific claim or defense asserted in the pleadings for information concerning it to be
    a proper subject of discovery.” AG-Innovations, 
    Inc., 82 Fed. Cl. at 77
    (quoting 6 James
    Wm. Moore et al., Moore’s Federal Practice ¶ 26.41 (3d ed. 2008)12). Nothing in
    defendant’s argument supports a finding that discovery about ELIHPA is irrelevant to
    plaintiffs’ LIHPRHA claims.
    Defendant has failed to show good cause for a protective order. Defendant’s
    motion for a protective order for the fourth and fifth requests is DENIED.
    12
    The quoted material now appears in 6 James Wm. Moore et al., Moore’s Federal
    Practice ¶ 26.42[1] (3d ed. 2015).
    21
    E.     Plaintiffs’ Sixth Request
    Plaintiffs seek testimony about eleven identified categories of information about
    the rental market13 in which each property is located, for a time period ranging from
    twenty-three to twenty-six years.14 DA002, DA005, DA008, DA011, DA014 & DA017.
    For both the low to moderate income rental housing and conventional market
    rental housing markets, plaintiffs seek testimony about:
    (1)    supply and demand;
    (2)    vacancy rates;
    (3)    quality of the rental units;
    (4)    forecasted, planned, expected or actual development of rental units;
    (5)    the market value of rental housing units;
    (6)    the type and mix of available residential rental housing.
    (7)    forecasted, planned, expected or actual growth of businesses;
    (8)    market trends, including economic, population, employment, and
    development trends;
    (9)    unemployment rates;
    (10)   proximity of retail stores and businesses within 10 miles of the property;
    and
    13
    The terms rental housing market, geographic area, geographic location or
    geographic market are used interchangeably.
    14
    Plaintiffs’ request for Chauncy House, owned by First Wave plaintiff Chauncy
    House Company, is included below in its entirety.
    The low to moderate income housing rental market and the conventional rental
    market in Boston, Massachusetts from 1973 through 1996, including but not
    limited to, the following types of information: the supply of and demand for low
    to moderate income housing and conventional market rental units, vacancy rates
    for and the quality of both types of rentals, all forecasted, planned, expected, or
    actual development of low to moderate income housing and conventional units,
    the market value of residential rental housing units, the type and mix of available
    residential rental housing, all forecasted, planned, expected or actual growth of
    business(es), market trends (economic, population, employment, and
    development), unemployment rates, the proximity of retail stores and businesses
    within 10 miles of Chauncy House, and access to public transportation.
    DA002 (No. 6) (emphasis added).
    22
    (11)   access to public transportation.
    
    Id. Defendant objects
    that the sixth request is excessively broad, to the point of being
    “staggering and unbounded.” Def.’s Mot. 10-11. No part of plaintiffs’ request, argues
    defendant, bears on the economic impact of either Preservation Statute “on plaintiffs’
    properties at the time of the alleged takings in the 1990s, or on any other issue relevant to
    the first wave plaintiffs’ claims.” 
    Id. at 11.
    Defendant seeks a protective order striking
    the sixth request from plaintiffs’ deposition notices. 
    Id. Plaintiffs argue
    that the testimony they seek is relevant to the Penn Central
    investment-backed expectations prong, which requires them to show that their
    expectations were “objectively reasonable.” Pls.’ Resp. 15. To satisfy this burden,
    plaintiffs assert they must provide the court with
    [d]etailed facts about the geographic market where the properties were
    located when they were developed or purchased, as compared to the markets
    years later, when prepayment would have been possible but for ELIHPA and
    LIHPRHA, [because such facts] are necessary to meet the Plaintiffs’ burden
    under Penn Central. Specifically, facts such as the rents charged, the actual
    and potential for growth in the area, increases in population, the local job
    market, surrounding commercial development, and the desirability of living
    in the area, as evidenced in part by vacancy rates, all directly bear on the
    reasonableness of the Plaintiffs’ expectations related to their investments.
    
    Id. (emphasis added).
    In effect, plaintiffs take the position that satisfying the Penn Central investment-
    backed expectations prong requires a showing that as reexamined at the time of the
    alleged taking, their early investment-backed expectations were accurate. Stated another
    way, if plaintiffs based their investment on an expectation that the geographic location of
    their property would prosper and result in an increase in property value, then plaintiffs
    must show that the expected growth did occur.15 Plaintiffs, however, provide no
    authority for this position, and the court is aware of none.
    15
    As discussed later, this was the investment strategy pursued by the plaintiff in
    CCA Associates. See CCA Assocs. v. United States, 
    91 Fed. Cl. 580
    , 609-10 (2010),
    aff’d in part, rev’d in part & remanded, 
    667 F.3d 1239
    (Fed. Cir. 2011).
    23
    While plaintiffs are correct that certain evidence about the location and character16
    of a property may be relevant to proving that their expectations at the time of investment
    were objectively reasonable, it is clear that evidence collected years after plaintiffs’
    investment—even if it shows that plaintiffs’ expectations turned out to be correct—does
    not satisfy plaintiffs’ legal burden. As the Federal Circuit has observed:
    The Court of Federal Claims explained that “factors associated with the
    location and character of projects strongly influenced the reasonable
    expectation of the owners, judged on an objective and not a subjective basis.”
    
    CCA, 91 Fed. Cl. at 609
    . While this may be true, the only objective evidence
    of the industry’s investment backed expectations is a quote from a 1972
    guide17 which indicated that a project located “in a growing suburban or
    exurban area, . . . may increase in value over the years, [and create]
    substantial residual profits to the investors upon sale or other disposition.”
    
    Id. (quotations and
    citations omitted, emphasis added).
    CCA 
    Assocs., 667 F.3d at 1247-48
    (emphasis added).
    In accepting only the 1972 guide as objective evidence of the industry’s
    investment-backed expectations,18 the Federal Circuit necessarily rejected the remainder
    of the evidence on which the trial court relied in its finding that CCA Associates carried
    its burden for the investment-backed expectations prong. In relevant part, the trial court’s
    consideration of the evidence is included below.
    [I]n the instance of Chateau Cleary, the potential returns very much depended
    on its geographical location. “[T]he Norman Brothers chose . . . to invest in
    a property in West Metairie, [Louisiana] then considered to be in the path of
    future development in the New Orleans area and an emerging middle-class
    neighborhood.” CCA 
    Assocs., 75 Fed. Cl. at 192
    . The reasonableness of
    16
    Location has been defined as the property’s development area, and its character as
    including the quality of construction and type of amenities provided. See CCA 
    Assocs., 91 Fed. Cl. at 608
    (citing testimony of the government’s tax accounting expert).
    17
    Charles L. Edson & Bruce S. Lane, Bureau of National Affairs, Inc., A Practical
    Guide to Low– and Moderate–Income Housing 11:8 (student ed. 1972) (“1972 guide”).
    18
    While the Federal Circuit did find that the 1972 guide provided objective
    evidence, it also found that this evidence was insufficient to carry plaintiff’s burden, as
    the discussion was hypothetical, rather than specific to the location of CCA Associates’
    property. See CCA Assocs. v. United States, 
    667 F.3d 1239
    , 1247-48 (Fed. Cir. 2011).
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    this projection was confirmed by the development of West Metairie, as
    evident from a site visit in 2006. 
    Id. at 193.
    . . .
    . . . In short, factors associated with the location and character of projects
    strongly influenced the reasonable expectations of the owners, judged on an
    objective and not a subjective basis.
    ....
    [A] 1972 guide to low– and moderate-income housing stated that “[o]ne of
    the principal benefits of ownership of a federally assisted housing project is
    the tax shelter that it generates.” Edson & Lane, at 11:6. Yet, in a section
    summarizing the advantages of obtaining a limited partnership interest in
    federally assisted projects, the guide also states, “[w]here a project is located
    in a growing suburban or exurban area, it may increase in value over the
    years, thus creating substantial residual profits to the investors upon sale or
    other disposition.” 
    Id. at 11:8.
    CCA’s Chateau Cleary project falls into this
    latter category where the prospect of long-term appreciation was the chief
    incentive and thus the prepayment right was critically important.
    ....
    . . . CCA had a long-term strategy based on Chateau Cleary’s location. CCA
    invested in a property they considered to be “located in a growing suburban
    or exurban area” that they hoped would “increase in value over the years”
    and “creat[e] substantial residual profits . . . upon sale or other disposition.”
    Edson & Lane, at 11:8. Subsequent events have born[e] out CCA’s
    investment strategy, as growth has come to the area. Chateau Cleary was
    recently appraised at approximately $5 million. 2009 Tr. 46:1–12 (Norman).
    CCA 
    Assocs., 91 Fed. Cl. at 609-10
    (emphasis added).
    The trial court concluded that “CCA had an objectively reasonable, investment-
    backed expectation with respect to the right to prepay.” 
    Id. at 610.
    The Federal Circuit
    found that the trial court “erred by holding [that] this factor weighed in favor of a taking,”
    as the evidence “fail[ed] to demonstrate that CCA’s investment-backed expectations were
    objectively reasonable in light of industry practice as a whole, as required by Cienega X.”
    CCA 
    Associates, 667 F.3d at 1248
    . The Federal Circuit thus rejected as objective
    evidence of the industry’s investment-backed expectations both the confirmed
    development in the West Metairie area and the value of Chateau Cleary at the time of the
    trial.
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    The Federal Circuit’s rejection of evidence that was available in 2006, long after
    CCA Associates’ initial investment in 1971, is consistent with the settled authority that
    plaintiffs must establish that their expectations were reasonable at the time of investment.
    “As with the other [Penn Central] factors, the burden is on the owners to establish a
    reasonable investment-backed expectation in the property at the time it made the
    investment.” Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1288
    (emphasis added) (citing Forest Props., Inc. v.
    United States, 
    177 F.3d 1360
    , 1367 (Fed. Cir. 1999)). “The point in time when the
    [reasonable investment-backed expectations] analysis is conducted is the time at which
    the complaining party entered into the activity that triggered the obligation,
    Commonwealth Edison Co. v. United States, 
    271 F.3d 1327
    , 1350 (Fed. Cir. 2001) (en
    banc)), specifically when the [owners] entered the [HUD] programs.” Chancellor Manor
    v. United States, 
    331 F.3d 891
    , 904 (Fed. Cir. 2003). “Cienega X indicates that
    contemporaneous documents, such as prospectuses, may help prove the existence of
    objectively reasonable investment strategies. Cienega X, however, does not require the
    use of prospectuses, and other kinds of evidence may be equally enlightening.” CCA
    
    Associates, 667 F.3d at 1248
    n.4 (emphasis added) (citing Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1290
    -
    91).
    Having closely reviewed the governing authority, the court concludes that with
    regard to the investment-backed expectations prong, plaintiffs’ position that they must
    provide information about the geographic market in which their properties are located at
    the time of the alleged taking—rather than at the time of the initial investment—is based
    on a misreading of the pertinent cases.
    With regard to the economic impact prong of the Penn Central test, plaintiffs
    assert, without further discussion, that “testimony about the markets where the properties
    are located affects . . . th[is] . . . prong.” Pls.’ Resp. 14. The Federal Circuit, however,
    has identified at least two ways to evaluate economic impact.
    First, a comparison could be made between the market value of the property
    with and without the restrictions on the date that the restriction began (the
    change in value approach). The other approach is to compare the lost net
    income due to the restriction (discounted to present value at the date the
    restriction was imposed) with the total net income without the restriction over
    the entire useful life of the property (again discounted to present value).
    Neither approach appears to be inherently better than the other, and on
    remand the Court of Federal Claims should consider both as well as any other
    possible approaches that determine the economic impact of the regulation on
    the value of the property as a whole.
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    Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1282
    .
    The relevance of plaintiffs’ sixth request to the economic impact prong is not
    apparent on its face, and the party seeking discovery bears the burden of explanation.
    See, e.g., In re Jemsek Clinic, P.A., Nos. 06-31766, 06-31986, 
    2013 WL 3994666
    (Bankr. W.D.N.C. Aug. 2, 2013) (“[W]hen a request for discovery is overly broad on its
    face or when relevancy is not readily apparent, the party seeking discovery has the
    burden to show the relevancy of the request.” (quoting Cunningham v. Std. Fire Ins. Co.,
    No. 07-02538, 
    2008 WL 2668301
    , at *4 (D. Colo. Jul. 1, 2008))).
    Moreover, as defendant points out, plaintiffs have failed to limit their sixth request
    to the eleven identified categories of information. Instead, plaintiffs seek information
    “including but not limited to” the identified categories. See Def.’s Mot. 10 (emphasis
    added) (quoting Pls.’ Sixth Request). Defendant is correct that the plain text of plaintiffs’
    sixth request is unbounded, and courts have found such language to be overbroad because
    the testifying party is unable to prepare its witness to respond to such a request. For
    example, in Reed v. Bennett, the court found:
    [P]laintiff’s Rule 30(b)(6) notice to be overbroad. Although plaintiff ha[d]
    specifically listed the areas of inquiry for which a 30(b)(6) designation [was]
    sought, she [also] indicated that the listed areas [were] not exclusive.
    Plaintiff broadens the scope of the designated topics by indicating that the
    areas of inquiry will “includ[e], but not [be] limited to” the areas specifically
    enumerated. An overbroad Rule 30(b)(6) notice subjects the noticed party to
    an impossible task. . . . Where, as here, the defendant cannot identify the
    outer limits of the areas of inquiry noticed, compliant designation is not
    feasible.
    Reed v. Bennett, 
    193 F.R.D. 689
    , 692 (D. Kan. 2000) (emphasis added) (order, inter alia,
    granting motion to quash Rule 30(b)(6) deposition notice, pending modification); accord
    8A Charles Alan Wright et al., Federal Practice & Procedure § 2103 n.11, Westlaw
    (database updated Apr. 2015) (quoting Reed, 
    193 F.R.D. 689
    ); see also Tri-State Hosp.
    Supply Corp. v. United States, 
    226 F.R.D. 118
    , 125 (D.C.D.C. 2005) (adopting Reed v.
    Bennett reasoning to find an individual topic incorporating the phrase “including but not
    limited to” to be overbroad).
    Accordingly, defendant’s motion is GRANTED as to plaintiffs’ sixth request.
    Plaintiffs, however, may revise and reissue their request. Plaintiffs are cautioned
    to carefully review their request and take care to avoid reissuing an overbroad request.
    For example, the court notes that plaintiffs requested information about “the proximity of
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    retail stores and businesses” within 10 miles of each property. Using simple geometry—
    with each property sitting at the center of a circle with a 10 mile radius—the court
    concludes that plaintiffs requested information for an area comprising approximately 314
    square miles. On its face, such a request is overbroad. Plaintiffs are cautioned that
    should defendant again seek a protective order for plaintiffs’ revised sixth request, the
    court will require plaintiffs to clearly explain the relevance of each category of requested
    information under Penn Central.
    F.     Plaintiffs’ Seventh and Eighth Requests
    In their seventh request, plaintiffs seek testimony about the physical condition of
    each property for a period of time ranging from twenty to twenty-four years, beginning
    with the year in which each plaintiff developed or purchased the property, and ending
    with the year in which the alleged taking of each property occurred.19 DA002, DA005,
    DA008, DA011, DA014 & DA017.
    In their eighth request, plaintiffs seek testimony about both the rents received by
    each property, and the actual market rents for the market in which each property is
    located, for the same twenty to twenty-four year period of time.20 
    Id. For the
    seventh request, and for the portion of the eighth request that seeks
    testimony about rents received by each property, defendant objects on the ground that the
    time period for which plaintiffs seek information is overly broad and abusive. Def.’s
    Mot. 14. While defendant acknowledges that testimony on both topics is relevant to the
    economic impact prong, it asserts that “[u]nder Penn Central, the pertinent inquiry is the
    economic effect of the Government regulation on [the] parcel as a whole at the time of
    the alleged taking.” 
    Id. (emphasis added)
    (citing Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1280-82
    ). Thus
    defendant seeks a protective order narrowing the time period for both the “seventh and
    eighth requests to the period beginning five years before the alleged takings.” 
    Id. 19 “The
    physical condition of [the property] from [the year of the property
    development or purchase] through [the year of the alleged taking].” DA002, DA005,
    DA008, DA011, DA014 & DA017 (No. 7). The year of property development or
    purchase ranged from 1970 to 1973, and the year of the alleged taking ranged from 1991
    to 1995.
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    “The rents received by the property from [the year of the property development
    or purchase] through [the year of the alleged taking], and the actual market rents for the
    same period in the market in which [the property] was located.” 
    Id. (No. 8).
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    Additionally, for the portion of the eighth request that seeks testimony about the
    actual market rents for the market in which each property is located, defendant interprets
    this request as seeking opinion testimony about hypothetical market rents for the First
    Wave plaintiffs’ properties, which it contends plaintiffs must seek from a qualified
    expert, not its Rule 30(b)(6) witness. 
    Id. at 11-12.
    Accordingly, defendant seeks a
    protective order to prevent plaintiffs from questioning its witness about this portion of the
    eighth request.
    1.     Seventh Request – Physical Condition
    Plaintiffs argue that the testimony they seek is relevant to their investment-backed
    expectations, and that defendant’s proposed five-year limitation would hinder their ability
    to obtain relevant testimony. See Pls.’ Resp. 16. In opposing defendant’s motion,
    plaintiffs take the position that “HUD’s views about the physical condition of the
    properties from development through the prepayment date . . . are highly relevant.” 
    Id. (emphasis added).
    In support of this position, plaintiffs provide an example pertaining to
    First Wave plaintiff Cedar Gardens and its owner, Mr. James Bancroft. Mr. Bancroft
    testified that at the time he was developing Cedar Gardens, FHA representatives noted
    that he appeared to be spending more money to build his property than was necessary; in
    turn, Mr. Bancroft replied that he was doing so knowingly, as he wanted the property to
    be easily convertible into a conventional market rent property at the expiration of the
    twenty year prepayment restriction. See 
    id. (citing PA063).
    But plaintiffs’ mere description of Mr. Bancroft’s conversation with a FHA
    representative fails to explain how the FHA representative’s opinion about the physical
    condition of his property is relevant to plaintiffs’ burden of proving their investment-
    backed expectations. Nor have plaintiffs provided either an explanation or any authority
    that would help explain their position. As defendant correctly has observed, plaintiffs
    simply “provide no cogent support” for their position. Def.’s Reply 16.
    The Federal Circuit has stated that it is the owners’ expectations that are relevant
    in the Penn Central analysis, not those of the United States. “In considering any requests
    for further discovery, the court must recognize that the pertinent reasonable expectations
    are those of the project owners, not of the United States.” Chancellor 
    Manor, 331 F.3d at 906
    n.8. Given this authority, the court is unable to find that the testimony of defendant’s
    representative is relevant to plaintiffs’ investment-backed expectations.
    As to the economic impact prong, plaintiffs have offered no objection to
    defendant’s proposed five-year limitation. Accordingly, the court concludes that five
    years’ worth of information is sufficient for the purpose of the economic impact prong.
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    Defendant’s motion for a protective order for the seventh request is GRANTED
    for the period beginning five years prior to the date of the alleged taking for the property
    of each First Wave plaintiff.
    2.     Eighth Request – Rents Received
    Regarding the portion of the eighth request in which plaintiffs seek testimony
    about the rents received by each property, plaintiffs assert that their request “directly
    relate[s] to the economic impact and investment-backed expectations prongs of the Penn
    Central test, as well as to damages,” and defendant’s attempt to limit this request to five
    years prior to the date of the alleged taking is “unfair because it unreasonably constrains
    exploration of a subject that is essential to the First Wave Plaintiffs’ claims.” Pls.’ Resp.
    18. Plaintiffs, however, provide neither argument nor authority to support their
    conclusory assertion.
    As an initial matter, damages discovery is premature at this stage of the
    proceedings. The parties are now conducting fact and expert discovery. See Scheduling
    Order, ECF No. 378. The court will not consider whether the information plaintiffs seek
    is relevant to their possible damages.
    Regarding economic impact, the Federal Circuit has provided two possible, but
    not exclusive, methods to determine economic impact, neither of which requires
    information about rent payments dating back twenty years from the date of the alleged
    taking.
    First, a comparison could be made between the market value of the property
    with and without the restrictions on the date that the restriction began (the
    change in value approach). The other approach is to compare the lost net
    income due to the restriction (discounted to present value at the date the
    restriction was imposed) with the total net income without the restriction over
    the entire useful life of the property (again discounted to present value).
    Neither approach appears to be inherently better than the other, and on
    remand the Court of Federal Claims should consider both as well as any other
    possible approaches that determine the economic impact of the regulation on
    the value of the property as a whole.
    Cienega 
    X, 503 F.3d at 1282
    (footnote omitted) (internal citation omitted).
    While plaintiffs are correct that the relevant time for evaluating their investment-
    backed expectations is the time of their investment, which in the case of the First Wave
    plaintiffs is sometime between 1970 to 1973, plaintiffs provide no explanation as to how
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    information on rents received by their properties in the early years of their investment is
    relevant to their proof of their investment-backed expectations. Nor is this apparent in
    the relevant authority. As the Federal Circuit has explained,
    [t]he first step of the [investment-backed expectations] analysis is to
    determine the actual investment that the general and limited partners made
    in the property. The second step is to determine the benefits that the owners
    reasonably could have expected at the time they entered into the investment.
    The third step is to determine what expected benefits were denied or
    restricted by the government action. . . . In other words, it is impossible to
    determine whether the owners’ expectations were reasonable without
    knowing the total value of the investment; its relationship to the benefits
    available to the owners, including any tax benefits; and the anticipated
    benefits that were denied or restricted by the government action. Finally, the
    claimant must establish that it made the investment because of its reasonable
    expectation of receiving the benefits denied or restricted by the government
    action, rather than the remaining benefits.
    
    Id. at 1289
    (footnote omitted).
    Plaintiffs have provided the court with nothing on which it could base a finding
    that they need twenty years’ worth of information about rents received to prove either
    economic impact or their investment-backed expectations. The court concludes that
    plaintiffs’ request is overly broad.
    3.     Eighth Request – Actual Market Rents in the Market in Which Each
    Property Was Located
    Plaintiffs clarified the portion of their eighth request in which they seek testimony
    about the “actual market rents . . . in the market in which [the property] was located.”
    Plaintiffs seek “information about the market rents charged for comparable multi-family
    properties in the same market in which . . . [each] Plaintiff’s property is located.” Pls.’
    Resp. 17.
    The clarification notwithstanding, defendant continues to seek a protective order
    precluding plaintiffs from seeking testimony about this portion of their eighth request, as
    “HUD did not develop comparable rents,” therefore testimony about such rents must be
    “obtained from a qualified expert—not from a Rule 30(b)(6) deposition of the United
    States.” Def.’s Reply 13.
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    That defendant may have no responsive information does not provide good cause
    for a protective order. 
    See supra
    Part III.B (second request). Defendant is only
    responsible for designating a witness to “testify about information known or reasonably
    available to the organization,” RCFC 30(b)(6), however plaintiffs are not obliged to
    accept defendant’s word for this. See, e.g., 8A Charles Alan Wright et al., Federal
    Practice & Procedure § 2037, Westlaw (database updated Apr. 2015) (“A witness
    ordinarily cannot escape examination by denying knowledge of any relevant facts, since
    the party seeking to take the deposition is entitled to test the witness’s lack of
    knowledge.”).
    Defendant’s motion for a protective order for the eighth request is GRANTED for
    the period beginning five years prior to the date of the alleged taking for the property of
    each First Wave plaintiff, but is otherwise denied.
    IV.    Conclusion
    As discussed above, and summarized below, defendant’s motion for a protective
    order is GRANTED-IN-PART and DENIED-IN-PART.
    Request                                        Ruling
    First Request        Defendant may limit its search to information from 1982 to 1996
    from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development,
    and any of its predecessors, the U.S. Government Accountability
    Office, and any of its predecessors, and the Congressional Budget
    Office. Defendant’s motion is otherwise denied.
    Second Request       Defendant may limit its search to information from 1988 to 1996
    from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development,
    and any of its predecessors, the U.S. Government Accountability
    Office, and any of its predecessors, and the Congressional Budget
    Office. Defendant’s motion is otherwise denied.
    Third Request        Plaintiffs are directed to identify those documents within each of
    the six Washington Dockets about which it wishes to question
    defendant’s Rule 30(b)(6) witness. Defendant’s motion is
    otherwise denied.
    Fourth Request       Denied.
    Fifth Request        Denied.
    Sixth Request        Granted. Plaintiffs may revise and reissue their request.
    Seventh Request      Granted.
    Eighth Request       Defendant’s motion is granted for the period beginning five years
    prior to the date of the alleged taking for the property of each First
    Wave plaintiff. Defendant’s motion is otherwise denied.
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    This order triggers the due dates set in the current scheduling order, ECF No. 378.
    The schedule for fact and expert discovery for the First Wave plaintiffs is set as follows:
    Event                               Date
    Fact discovery closes               March 7, 2016
    Affirmative expert reports due      March 28, 2016
    Rebuttal expert reports due         May 12, 2016
    Expert discovery closes             June 13, 2016
    The parties shall file a joint status report respecting discovery in non-First Wave
    plaintiffs no later than April 25, 2016.
    IT IS SO ORDERED.
    s/ Patricia E. Campbell-Smith
    PATRICIA E. CAMPBELL-SMITH
    Chief Judge
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