State v. Heather Jan VanBeek ( 2021 )


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    2021 WI 51
    SUPREME COURT            OF   WISCONSIN
    CASE NO.:              2019AP447-CR
    COMPLETE TITLE:        State of Wisconsin,
    Plaintiff-Respondent,
    v.
    Heather Jan VanBeek,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    ON CERTIFICATION FROM THE COURT OF APPEALS
    OPINION FILED:         June 4, 2021
    SUBMITTED ON BRIEFS:
    ORAL ARGUMENT:         February 23, 2021
    SOURCE OF APPEAL:
    COURT:              Circuit
    COUNTY:             Sheboygan
    JUDGE:              Kent R. Hoffman
    JUSTICES:
    ROGGENSACK, J., delivered the majority opinion of the Court with
    respect to ¶¶22-35 and ¶¶46-65, in which ANN WALSH BRADLEY,
    DALLET, and KAROFSKY, JJ., joined, and an opinion with respect
    to ¶¶1-21, ¶¶36-45, and ¶66. DALLET, J., filed a concurring
    opinion, in which ANN WALSH BRADLEY and KAROFSKY, JJ., joined.
    ZIEGLER, C.J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which REBECCA
    GRASSL BRADLEY and HAGEDORN, JJ., joined.
    NOT PARTICIPATING:
    ATTORNEYS:
    For the defendant-appellant, there were briefs filed by Jay
    Pucek,       assistant   state   public    defender.   There   was    an   oral
    argument by Jay Pucek.
    For the plaintiff-respondent, there was a brief filed by
    Scott E. Rosenow, assistant attorney general; with whom on the
    brief was Joshua L. Kaul, attorney general. There was an oral
    argument by Scott E. Rosenow.
    
    2021 WI 51
    NOTICE
    This opinion is subject to further
    editing and modification.   The final
    version will appear in the bound
    volume of the official reports.
    No.2019AP447-CR
    (L.C. No.   2017CF720)
    STATE OF WISCONSIN                    :               IN SUPREME COURT
    State of Wisconsin,
    Plaintiff-Respondent,
    FILED
    v.                                                    JUN 4, 2021
    Heather Jan VanBeek,                                          Sheila T. Reiff
    Clerk of Supreme Court
    Defendant-Appellant.
    ROGGENSACK, J., delivered the majority opinion of the Court with
    respect to ¶¶22-35 and ¶¶46-65, in which ANN WALSH BRADLEY,
    DALLET, and KAROFSKY, JJ., joined, and an opinion with respect
    to ¶¶1-21, ¶¶36-45, and ¶66.     DALLET, J., filed a concurring
    opinion, in which ANN WALSH BRADLEY and KAROFSKY, JJ., joined.
    ZIEGLER, C.J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which REBECCA
    GRASSL BRADLEY and HAGEDORN, JJ., joined.
    APPEAL from a judgment and an order of the Circuit Court
    for Sheboygan County.     Reversed and cause remanded.
    ¶1     PATIENCE DRAKE ROGGENSACK, J.      This case is before us
    on certification from the court of appeals1 pursuant to Wis.
    Stat. § (Rule) 809.61 (2019-20).2     The court of appeals certified
    1State v. VanBeek, No. 2019AP447-CR, certification (Wis.
    Ct. App. Aug. 12, 2020).
    2   All subsequent references to the Wisconsin Statutes are to
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    the following question:             "whether a consensual encounter becomes
    an unconstitutional seizure under the Fourth Amendment when an
    officer requests and takes an individual's driver's license to
    the        officer's       squad     car       without       reasonable         suspicion."
    Accordingly, we review the Circuit Court of Sheboygan County's3
    judgment      of    conviction      of     Heather     VanBeek     for    possession       of
    methamphetamine and drug paraphernalia.                         VanBeek's conviction
    arose from a search of her vehicle that she contends violated
    her right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures
    under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
    ¶2      On the certified question, we conclude that the answer
    depends       on     the    totality       of       circumstances        surrounding       an
    encounter.          Further, while VanBeek was not seized when Officer
    Oetzel took her driver's license to run a records check, VanBeek
    was seized when Oetzel returned to her vehicle, withheld her
    driver's license and continued to question her and her passenger
    in order to hold her until a drug-sniff dog, i.e., the K9 unit,
    that he had requested arrived.                      Finally, we conclude that the
    seizure       was    unlawful       because,         based    on    the        totality    of
    circumstances,         Oetzel      did   not    have     reasonable       suspicion       that
    VanBeek was engaged in criminal activity at the time he seized
    her.        Accordingly, we reverse the circuit court's judgment of
    the 2019-20 version unless otherwise indicated.
    3   The Honorable Kent Hoffman of Sheboygan County presided.
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    conviction and remand with instruction to grant VanBeek's motion
    to suppress.
    I.    BACKGROUND
    A.   Factual Background
    ¶3     On    the    night   of    November         12,     2017,     the     City    of
    Sheboygan Police Department received an anonymous call that a
    truck,     with     two     occupants,           had     been    sitting         near     the
    intersection of 6th Street and Superior Avenue in Sheboygan for
    approximately an hour.            The caller also stated that a person
    approached the truck with a backpack and left later without it.
    The caller provided no description of the truck.
    ¶4     Sheboygan Police Officer Sung Oetzel responded to the
    call.      When    he     arrived,     Oetzel      saw    only    one     truck     in    the
    location that had been identified.                     However, to be sure it was
    the truck to which the caller referred, he quickly drove around
    the   area   and    confirmed        there       was   only     one   truck       with    two
    occupants nearby.          Oetzel parked his squad car behind the truck
    and activated his squad car's spotlight.4
    ¶5     VanBeek and her passenger,                  Branden Sitzberger,              were
    sitting in VanBeek's truck when Oetzel approached.                             Oetzel made
    contact with VanBeek, saying that "someone called in, suspicious
    that two people were just sitting here."5                     VanBeek responded that
    4He did not activate his squad car's red and blue emergency
    lights.
    5The entire interaction between                     VanBeek     and      Oetzel     was
    recorded on Oetzel's body camera.
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    she    was    "waiting    for     [Sitzberger]         to    walk."      Sitzberger
    similarly stated that VanBeek had just picked him up.                          Oetzel
    informed VanBeek that the caller said VanBeek had been sitting
    there for an hour, which VanBeek denied.                    Sitzberger said it had
    been "about ten minutes."          Oetzel responded by saying "it was an
    anonymous caller, you know how people exaggerate sometimes.                         I
    don't know."       VanBeek answered affirmatively when Oetzel asked
    if Sitzberger was her boyfriend and if she was "just waiting";
    Oetzel responded "sounds legit."                During his initial encounter
    with VanBeek, Oetzel did not ask about a backpack or a third
    person that the caller had mentioned.                   There is nothing in the
    record to show whether such a person had been present.
    ¶6     Oetzel   then     asked   VanBeek       and   Sitzberger   for    their
    information "for his report, so [he] [could] just get out of
    [here]."       Sitzberger asked if Oetzel was going to just write
    down the information.            Oetzel told Sitzberger he wanted their
    "IDs" so he could "compare faces."                  While VanBeek and Sitzberger
    were giving their driver's licenses to Oetzel, Oetzel asked what
    they   were    doing     that    night,       and    Sitzberger    responded     that
    VanBeek had just picked him up and they were going back to
    Cascade.      Oetzel took possession of their driver's licenses and
    said "Okay.      I'll be right back, okay."                 VanBeek and Sitzberger
    replied "alright."
    ¶7     Before returning to his squad car, Oetzel spoke to
    another officer who had arrived on scene.                    Oetzel told the other
    officer that VanBeek said she was "waiting for her boyfriend"
    and "[he] [didn't] think it [was] anything suspicious."                     When he
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    ran a records check on VanBeek and Sitzberger, Oetzel discovered
    that neither person had outstanding warrants.              However, Oetzel
    learned that VanBeek had overdosed in February of that year and
    that    Sitzberger    was    on   supervision.     Based      on     these     two
    additional facts, Oetzel called for the K9 unit.                    Oetzel then
    exited his squad car and once again spoke to the other officer
    who was on scene.          As he returned to VanBeek's vehicle, Oetzel
    asked the other officer if he "had enough to just hold them
    until [the K9 unit] [got] [there]."
    ¶8   After    he     returned   to   VanBeek's      vehicle,          while
    retaining possession of their driver's licenses, Oetzel asked
    VanBeek and Sitzberger numerous questions, some of which he had
    already asked and they had answered.          For example, Oetzel asked
    VanBeek to confirm that she lived in Cascade, to repeat her
    address, to confirm her date of birth, and to provide a phone
    number.      As Oetzel questioned her, VanBeek asked whether her
    "license    was    bad."      Oetzel   answered   no,   and     she     answered
    Oetzel's questions.         After questioning VanBeek, Oetzel moved on
    to Sitzberger, asking him to confirm his address and for a phone
    number.     Sitzberger also complied.
    ¶9   While    retaining     their    driver's    licenses,         Oetzel
    continued his questioning, saying "Heather, you were saying that
    you were picking him up.          I thought you [Sitzberger] said you
    live here."       Sitzberger denied saying that he lived in the area
    and that he was at a friend's house.               Oetzel asked, "which
    friend?" and Sitzberger responded with the name "Jake" who he
    said lived "a couple blocks down."           Oetzel asked whether Jake
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    lived    on    Superior,        and    Sitzberger     responded       affirmatively,
    though he seemed unsure whether Jake lived at 7th or 8th street.
    Sitzberger said that he thought VanBeek was outside but did not
    see her, so he called her and walked around trying to find her.
    ¶10    Oetzel     then    asked    Sitzberger     more     questions      about
    Jake, including where exactly on Superior Jake lived, for Jake's
    full name, and for Jake's phone number.                  Oetzel told Sitzberger
    that he "just want[ed] to verify [Sitzberger's] story" because
    Sitzberger was on supervision.                 He "wanted to confirm that there
    [was] a Jake there so that [Sitzberger] wasn't lying to [him]."
    Sitzberger offered to call Jake, but Oetzel told Sitzberger that
    he would rather "have the phone number and [he] can call [Jake]
    himself."      After taking Jake's phone number down, Oetzel asked
    Sitzberger if Sitzberger had been drinking.                          Sitzberger said
    that he had not.         Oetzel said that he asked because Sitzberger's
    face was "a little red" and Sitzberger replied saying he "just
    got done walking" and that it was hot in the truck.                        Oetzel then
    returned to questioning Sitzberger about Jake.
    ¶11    This time, the questions included how Sitzberger knew
    Jake    and   how   long    he   had     known    him.   Sitzberger         responded,
    telling Oetzel that he met Jake through a friend and that he had
    known Jake for about five or six months.                 After taking down that
    information, Oetzel circled back to his original questions and
    asked VanBeek and Sitzberger               how long they had been sitting
    there.       VanBeek said that up to that point she had been there
    for    "probably    an     hour."        She     clarified    that    before    Oetzel
    arrived she was there for half an hour.                      Oetzel exclaimed that
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    an hour is "a long time" and asked if she had been sitting there
    alone      for    awhile,       which   VanBeek       responded        to     affirmatively.
    Shortly      thereafter,         the    K9     unit    arrived,        and     Oetzel      asked
    VanBeek and Sitzberger to exit the truck.
    ¶12       After VanBeek and Sitzberger got out of the truck, the
    K9 unit conducted a sweep of the truck and the dog alerted,
    indicating there were drugs present.                    Oetzel and another officer
    searched the truck and discovered one gram of methamphetamine
    and    a   pipe,        for   which     they    arrested        VanBeek.           The    entire
    incident lasted approximately 25 minutes.
    B.     Procedural History
    ¶13       The State charged VanBeek with one count of Possession
    of Methamphetamine, contrary to Wis. Stat. § 961.41(3g)(g), and
    one count of Possession of Drug Paraphernalia, contrary to Wis.
    Stat.        § 961.573(1).              VanBeek        moved       to         suppress       the
    methamphetamine and drug pipe found during the search.
    ¶14       In   her     suppression       motion,    VanBeek           contended      that
    Oetzel's initial contact with her was unlawful, and, even if it
    were    not,      the    stop    was    extended      beyond      its       initial      mission
    without       reasonable         suspicion      that      she     or    Sitzberger         were
    committing, had committed or were about to commit a crime.                                   She
    argued that Oetzel's extended questioning while retaining her
    driver's license violated her right to be free from unreasonable
    searches and seizures as guaranteed by both the Fourth Amendment
    to the United States Constitution and Article I, Section 11 of
    the Wisconsin Constitution.
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    ¶15       The    circuit        court       held      two    hearings     on     VanBeek's
    motion to suppress where the court heard testimony from Oetzel.
    On direct examination, Oetzel testified that he was dispatched
    to    the    intersection          based       on       an    anonymous       call,     but    "the
    description of the vehicle was not provided by the anonymous
    caller so [he] went further south" to see if any other vehicles
    were sitting idle with two occupants.
    ¶16       Oetzel confirmed that he did not know why Sitzberger
    was on supervision and that he "didn't ask dispatch."                                   On cross-
    examination,           Oetzel    gave     conflicting           testimony       on    whether     he
    mentioned the anonymous caller's information regarding a third
    person      or    a    backpack        during      the       initial       encounter.      First,
    Oetzel said that he "[couldn't] recall" whether he mentioned the
    backpack.         A few moments later, he stated that "[he] told them
    why   [he]       was    there     with       the     suspicious        complaint       about    two
    individuals           being   inside      a     vehicle,        a    truck,     and    that     [an]
    unknown person approached them with a backpack."                                      The bodycam
    footage confirms that Oetzel did not mention the backpack at any
    point during the interaction.                      And Oetzel further confirmed this
    on re-cross examination.
    ¶17       Oetzel also confirmed that he did not have reasonable
    suspicion at the time that he took VanBeek's and Sitzberger's
    driver's         licenses       back    to     his      squad       car.      Finally,        Oetzel
    confirmed that VanBeek had not committed any traffic violations
    and that he did not see or smell any indications of drug use.
    ¶18       In analyzing VanBeek's motion to suppress, the circuit
    court noted that it was required to "judg[e] the reasonableness
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    of a stop and search [and] . . . to look at the totality of
    circumstances of the situation."                        The circuit court concluded
    that       "the       initial        contact     with     [VanBeek's]          vehicle        was
    reasonable and that . . . the entire contact with the defendant
    and    the      passenger       was     reasonable        under    a    totality       of     the
    circumstances."6             This led the circuit court to conclude that the
    K9 search was also reasonable.                       Accordingly, the circuit court
    denied VanBeek's motion to suppress.
    ¶19      VanBeek       pled     no      contest,     and    the       circuit        court
    subsequently entered a judgment of conviction.                           VanBeek appealed
    to the court of appeals, where she argued that "Oetzel's demand
    for    and      retention       of    [her]    driver's     license      transformed          his
    contact with her into a seizure."                        VanBeek contended that "no
    reasonable person would feel free to leave and go about his or
    her    business        once     a    police     officer    takes       and    retains       their
    driver's license."              Accordingly, VanBeek contended that she was
    seized when Oetzel took her and Sitzberger's driver's licenses
    back       to   his    squad    car.        VanBeek      further       asserted     that      the
    seizure         was    not    justified        by    reasonable        suspicion       or    the
    The circuit court concluded that the initial approach
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    "probably" was justified under the community caretaker doctrine.
    VanBeek's trial counsel asked for clarification on this point,
    and the court stated that "[i]f you look at the standards it
    clearly is a seizure, you know, because he approaches the
    vehicle, and I think it was a bona fide community caretaker
    activity as the state laid out[.]"     The court also found that
    the initial contact was "a valid investigative stop . . . under
    the community caretaker [doctrine]."         The court further
    concluded that the secondary contact was valid under both the
    community caretaker doctrine and based on reasonable suspicion.
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    community      caretaker       doctrine           and    that,     even    if        the    initial
    interaction was valid, the extension of the stop to wait for the
    K9 unit was not.
    ¶20        The State countered, arguing that "Oetzel first seized
    VanBeek when he asked her to exit her truck right before the dog
    sniff occurred."           The State disagreed with VanBeek's position
    that she was seized when Oetzel took her driver's license back
    to his squad car.              The State argued that per our holding in
    State v. Floyd, 
    2017 WI 78
    , 
    377 Wis. 2d 394
    , 
    898 N.W.2d 560
    ,
    Oetzel's retention of VanBeek's license was not a seizure and
    rather,     "[Oetzel]         did     not    attempt          to   restrict          [VanBeek's]
    movement       until"    he    asked        her    to     step     out    of     her       vehicle.
    Alternatively, the State argued that the earliest Oetzel seized
    VanBeek was during his second interaction.                          In either event, the
    State maintained that Oetzel had reasonable suspicion for the
    seizure.
    ¶21        After reviewing Fourth Amendment jurisprudence as it
    relates to VanBeek's contentions, the court of appeals certified
    an issue to us in regard to Oetzel taking VanBeek's driver's
    license to his squad car without reasonable suspicion.                                          The
    court     of    appeals       reasoned        that        "[t]his        case     presents       an
    important issue that arises when officers investigate citizen
    complaints       that    are        not,    as        yet,    supported         by    reasonable
    suspicion to believe crime is afoot."                         The court of appeals also
    sought    further       clarification         on        the   following        statement       from
    Floyd:    "If an officer withholds a person's documents, there is
    good reason to believe that the person was not 'free to leave'
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    at that time."           
    Id., ¶31
    .         We accepted the court of appeals'
    certification.7
    II.    DISCUSSION
    A.    Standard of Review
    ¶22     Whether    evidence        should    have    been   suppressed        is   a
    question of constitutional fact.                   State v. Coffee, 
    2020 WI 53
    ,
    ¶19, 
    391 Wis. 2d 831
    , 
    943 N.W.2d 845
    .                       We "employ a two-step
    inquiry" to make that determination.                    
    Id.
         First, we uphold a
    circuit       court's    findings     of     historic       fact   unless     they    are
    clearly erroneous.            
    Id., ¶20
    .         Second, we independently           and
    objectively examine the facts known to the officer at the time
    of the alleged seizure, applying constitutional principles to
    them.       
    Id.
         "The burden is on the State to prove that the search
    was constitutionally permissible because police did not obtain a
    warrant prior to searching the vehicle."                    
    Id., ¶21
     (citing State
    v. Johnston, 
    184 Wis. 2d 794
    , 806, 
    518 N.W.2d 759
     (1994)).
    B.   Fourth Amendment Principles
    ¶23     The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution
    protects       people    against     unreasonable          searches    and    seizures.
    U.S.       Const.    amend.   IV.     The    Wisconsin        Constitution     contains
    nearly identical protections, Wis. Const. art. I, § 11, which we
    have interpreted consistent with its federal counterpart.                         State
    "When we accept certification from the court of appeals,
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    we acquire jurisdiction of the entire appeal."   State v. Denk,
    
    2008 WI 130
    , ¶29, 
    315 Wis. 2d 5
    , 
    758 N.W.2d 775
    .    Accordingly,
    "[w]e . . . consider all issues raised before the court of
    appeals." 
    Id. 11
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    v. Kramer, 
    2009 WI 14
    , ¶18, 
    315 Wis. 2d 414
    , 
    759 N.W.2d 598
    .                                      In
    this case, we are focused on the meaning of "seizures" within
    the Fourth Amendment.
    ¶24    Although          courts       regularly       talk    about       "searches      and
    seizures" as though they were an inseparable tandem, they are
    constitutionally and analytically distinct principles.                                   State v.
    Arias, 
    2008 WI 84
    , ¶25, 
    311 Wis. 2d 358
    , 
    752 N.W.2d 748
    .                                          "A
    seizure differs from a search, as it 'deprives the individual of
    dominion over his or her person or property.'"                                        
    Id.
     (citing
    Horton v. California, 
    496 U.S. 128
    , 133 (1990)).
    ¶25    When a seizure is claimed to have occurred, we first
    determine     when       it     began    and     whether       it    was    constitutionally
    permissible        at    its     inception.           Arias,        
    311 Wis. 2d 358
    ,     ¶30
    (citing Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 19-20 (1968)).                                        We then
    determine      whether           the         officer's        continued          actions        were
    "reasonably         related        in        scope    to      the    circumstances          which
    justified the interference in the first place."                                       Arias, 
    311 Wis. 2d 358
    , ¶30 (citing Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 20
    ).
    ¶26    Not       every    police-citizen             interaction         implicates       the
    Fourth Amendment.               See Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 19 n.16
    ; see also
    State v. Griffith, 
    2000 WI 72
    , ¶39, 
    263 Wis. 2d 48
    , 
    613 N.W.2d 72
    .     Law    enforcement          officers          may    approach       citizens       on    the
    street,      put    questions           to    them,     and    ask        for    identification
    without implicating the Fourth Amendment "as long as the police
    do not convey a message that compliance with their request is
    required."         Florida v. Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    , 434 (1991); see
    also   INS    v.        Delgado,        
    466 U.S. 210
    ,    216        (1984)      ("[P]olice
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    questioning,          by    itself,   is   unlikely    to       result    in    a    Fourth
    Amendment violation.              While most citizens will respond to a
    police request, the fact that people do so, and do so without
    being told they are free not to respond, hardly eliminates the
    consensual nature of the response.").                      Absent law enforcement
    conduct      that      indicates      required     compliance,       these      types     of
    interactions          are   consensual     encounters       and    generally         do   not
    receive Fourth Amendment scrutiny.                 Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 434
    .
    ¶27    However, a police-citizen interaction can rise to the
    level of a temporary, investigative detention, commonly referred
    to as a Terry stop.              Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 30
    .                 To pass Fourth
    Amendment scrutiny, Terry stops must be supported by reasonable
    suspicion.        Id.; see Wis. Stat. § 968.24 (codifying the standard
    for Terry stops).
    ¶28    An officer has reasonable suspicion "when, at the time
    of the stop, he or she possesses specific and articulable facts
    which would warrant a reasonable belief that criminal activity
    [is or] was afoot."             State v. Waldner, 
    206 Wis. 2d 51
    , 55, 
    556 N.W.2d 681
     (1996) (citing State v. Chambers, 
    55 Wis. 2d 289
    ,
    294, 
    198 N.W.2d 377
     (1972)).               Finally, arrests are seizures and
    must be supported by probable cause.                  Hayes v. Florida, 
    470 U.S. 811
    , 815-16 (1985).             Here, we determine whether the consensual
    interaction between VanBeek and Oetzel shifted at some point in
    time    from      a    consensual      encounter      to    a     seizure      for    which
    reasonable suspicion was required.
    ¶29    A       seizure    occurs      if,     under        the     totality        of
    circumstances, the "police conduct would have communicated to a
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    reasonable person that the person was not free to decline the
    officers'       request    or        otherwise        terminate          the        encounter."
    Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 439
    .                Stated otherwise, a seizure occurs
    "when    the    officer,       by    means     of    physical       force       or        show   of
    authority, has in some way restrained the liberty of a citizen."
    United      States   v.    Mendenhall,              
    446 U.S. 544
    ,        552       (1980).
    "Determining       whether      a     seizure        has     occurred          is     a     highly
    fact-bound inquiry."           United States v. Tyler, 
    512 F.3d 405
    , 410
    (7th Cir. 2008).
    ¶30      We determine whether a person would have felt free to
    leave or otherwise terminate the encounter based on an objective
    view of the specific facts presented.                      That analysis employs the
    "innocent       reasonable           person,        rather        than     the            specific
    defendant."        County of Grant v. Vogt, 
    2014 WI 76
    , ¶30, 
    356 Wis. 2d 343
    , 
    850 N.W.2d 253
    .              "If a reasonable person would have
    felt free to leave but the person at issue nonetheless remained
    in   police      presence,          perhaps    because        of    a      desire          to     be
    cooperative, there is no seizure."                    State v. Young, 
    2006 WI 98
    ,
    ¶37, 
    294 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    717 N.W.2d 729
    .
    C.    The Certified Question
    ¶31      The court of appeals certified the question of whether
    an   officer     taking    a    citizen's          driver's    license         back        to    the
    officer's squad car necessarily constitutes a seizure.                                      As we
    explain below, we conclude that such law enforcement officer
    conduct could amount to a seizure.                    However, rather than create
    a bright-line rule that such conduct is always a seizure or is
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    never    a    seizure,        we       continue      to     analyze      whether     a   seizure
    occurred based on the totality of circumstances presented.
    ¶32         "In the ordinary course, a police officer is free to
    ask a person for identification without implicating the Fourth
    Amendment."          Hiibel v. Sixth Jud. Dist. Ct. of Nev., 
    542 U.S. 177
    , 185 (2004); see also Mendenhall, 
    446 U.S. at 555
     ("[The
    agents] requested, but did not demand to see the respondent's
    identification and ticket.                     Such conduct without more, did not
    amount       to    an    intrusion        upon       any    constitutionally          protected
    interest.").            Further, an officer approaching a parked car and
    questioning          the     individual         or    individuals         within     does     not
    necessarily amount to a seizure.                          See, e.g., Vogt, 
    356 Wis. 2d 343
    , ¶41 (concluding that an officer parking behind a vehicle,
    approaching and knocking on the window to question the occupant
    did   not     amount        to     a    seizure);          see   also     United     States    v.
    Jefferson, 
    906 F.2d 346
    , 349 (8th Cir. 1990) (collecting cases).
    ¶33         However,    what      may    begin       as    a    valid   and    consensual
    encounter can rise to the level of a seizure, and an officer's
    retention of an individual's driver's license is an important
    factor that courts consider.                     For example, in Florida v. Royer,
    narcotics agents approached Royer in the concourse of an airport
    and asked to see his ticket and his identification.                                  Florida v.
    Royer,       
    460 U.S. 491
    ,    494      (1983).             Royer   explained       the
    discrepancy between the name on his ticket and the name on his
    identification.              
    Id.
             The     officers,           rather   than    returning
    Royer's identification and airline ticket, informed Royer that
    they were narcotics officers and "asked Royer to accompany them
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    No.     2019AP447-CR
    to a room" away from the concourse.                      
    Id.
         The officers also
    retrieved     Royer's       luggage     without     Royer's       consent.               Royer
    unlocked one suitcase, which an officer opened "without seeking
    further assent from Royer," and the officers broke open the
    other suitcase after Royer said "go ahead."                           
    Id.
              Each bag
    contained narcotics, and Royer was arrested.                    
    Id. ¶34
        The       Court    analyzed    these        circumstances             and     the
    plurality    concluded         that    "[w]hat    had    begun    as     a    consensual
    inquiry in a public place had escalated into an investigatory
    procedure    in    a    police    interrogation         room,    where       the    police,
    unsatisfied with previous explanations, sought to confirm their
    suspicions."       
    Id. at 503
    .         The Court reasoned that because Royer
    was   in    the    police      interrogation      room,     "[t]he       officers         had
    Royer's ticket, they had his identification, and they had seized
    his luggage[,]" the interaction lost its consensual nature.                                
    Id.
    In providing additional clarity, the Court stated that, had the
    officers     "return[ed]         his   ticket     and    driver's        license,         and
    inform[ed] him that he was free to go if he so desired, the
    officers may have           obviated any claim that the encounter was
    anything but a consensual matter from start to finish."                              
    Id. at 504
     (emphasis added).
    ¶35    A number of federal circuits have reasoned that the
    prolonged retention of an individual's driver's license was an
    important factor in determining whether a seizure occurred.                                For
    example, the Seventh Circuit included an officer's retention of
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    No.    2019AP447-CR
    a   driver's license       in its non-exhaustive list of factors to
    consider.
    8 Tyler, 512
     F.3d at 410 (listing relevant factors in
    the totality of circumstances analysis including "whether the
    person was deprived of identification or other documents without
    which he could not leave"); see also United States v. Weaver,
    
    282 F.3d 302
    , 311 (4th Cir. 2002) (noting that "the retention of
    a person's identification is an important factor in determining
    whether a 'seizure' within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment
    occurred" but declining to adopt a bright-line rule); Jefferson,
    
    906 F.2d at 349
        ("We   have . . . noted    that     in   certain
    circumstances a consensual encounter may become a seizure if the
    officer   retains    the    individual's   driver's   license.");    United
    States v. Chan-Jimenez, 
    125 F.3d 1324
    , 1326 (9th Cir. 1997)
    ("When a law enforcement official retains control of a person's
    identification papers, such as vehicle registration documents or
    a license, longer than necessary to ascertain that everything is
    in order, and initiates further inquiry while holding on to the
    8The Seventh Circuit likened Tyler to the court's
    jurisprudence surrounding "airport and train station stops."
    United States v. Tyler, 
    512 F.3d 405
    , 410 (7th Cir. 2008). The
    court concluded there was a meaningful distinction in the
    expediency   with   which  officers  asked   for,   examined   and
    ultimately returned an individual's driver's license.          
    Id.
    ("Where   the   officers  told   the  defendant   he   was   under
    investigation for carrying drugs or retained possession of his
    identification, travel documents, and/or luggage, we held there
    was a seizure. . . .      Where the officers only generally
    identified themselves as narcotics investigators and immediately
    returned the defendant's identification and travel documents, we
    held the initial consensual encounter did not ripen into a
    seizure.") (internal citations omitted).
    17
    No.     2019AP447-CR
    needed    papers,     a     reasonable       person        would     not       feel      free     to
    depart."); United States v. Waksal, 
    709 F.2d 653
    , 660 (11th Cir.
    1983) ("We fail to see how appellant could have felt free to
    walk away from police officers when they still possessed the
    documents necessary for him to continue his journey.").
    ¶36    We     conclude       that     an        officer's         retention           of     an
    individual's       driver's       license        is   a    significant             but   not     the
    dispositive fact.           Our conclusion is consistent with Wisconsin
    Fourth Amendment precedent.                In State v. Luebeck, the court of
    appeals analyzed an encounter during which an initially valid
    stop ripened into an unlawful seizure.                          See generally State v.
    Luebeck,    
    2006 WI App 87
    ,     
    292 Wis. 2d 748
    ,    
    715 N.W.2d 639
    .
    There, the officer stopped Luebeck for a lane deviation and a
    suspicion that he was driving under the influence.                                       
    Id., ¶2
    .
    The   officer      obtained       Luebeck's       and      his    passenger's            driver's
    licenses     and    ran     warrant       checks.           
    Id.
             The        officer       also
    instructed      Luebeck      to    perform        a    field-sobriety               test,    which
    Luebeck     passed,       and     the    officer       administered            a    preliminary
    breath test; Luebeck was under the legal limit.                                
    Id., ¶3
    .           The
    officer ultimately "advised Luebeck that he was going to issue
    him a warning for the lane deviation and then release him."                                      
    Id. ¶37
        While retaining Luebeck's driver's license and having
    not   yet    issued       him     the    warning,         the    officer        continued         to
    question Luebeck about his passenger's ability to drive in his
    place.       
    Id., ¶4
    .         Before    administering           a    breath          test     on
    Luebeck's passenger, the officer asked if Luebeck had anything
    illegal on his person or in his car.                        
    Id.
         Luebeck denied each
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    No.    2019AP447-CR
    question and consented when the officer asked to search him and
    the car.    
    Id.
        Luebeck had nothing on his person, but the car
    search uncovered marijuana.           
    Id., ¶5
    .     Luebeck argued that he
    was unlawfully seized at the time he gave his consent to search.
    
    Id., ¶6
    .
    ¶38    The circuit court and court of appeals agreed with
    Luebeck.   At the outset, the court of appeals agreed with the
    State that the initial traffic stop was valid.                   
    Id., ¶¶7, 10
    .
    However,   after   examining    the    totality    of    circumstances,        the
    court of appeals concluded that a reasonable person in Luebeck's
    position   would   not   have    felt      free   to    leave     or    otherwise
    terminate the encounter at the time that Luebeck consented to
    the search.    
    Id., ¶15
    .       The court distinguished Luebeck's case
    from two cases on which the State relied and explained:
    Luebeck was detained for over twenty minutes, his
    driver's license was held by the police, no citation
    or warning for lane deviation had yet been issued, he
    passed all of the field sobriety tests and his
    preliminary breath test indicated a blood alcohol
    content below the legal limit, and yet he was being
    questioned about his passenger's ability to drive in
    his place.     In Williams, the officer issued and
    explained the traffic warning, returned Williams'
    identification, shook hands with Williams, and said,
    "[W]e'll let you get on your way then." . . . In
    Gaulrapp, we expressly distinguished the case from
    others that "involved prolonged detention after the
    officers concluded or should have concluded that the
    justification for the initial stop did not warrant
    further detention."
    
    Id.
     (quoting State v. Williams, 
    2002 WI 94
    , ¶¶7-12, 
    255 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    646 N.W.2d 834
     and State v. Gaulrapp, 
    207 Wis. 2d 600
    , 608,
    
    558 N.W.2d 696
     (Ct. App. 1996)).
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    No.     2019AP447-CR
    ¶39        In        coming    to     its    conclusion,         the       court        examined
    numerous          Tenth        Circuit       cases       that    had     concluded             "that     a
    motorist's consent to search his or her vehicle is invalid where
    a   deputy        does        not    return      documents      relating          to     the    initial
    traffic stop prior to asking for consent to search the vehicle."
    Luebeck, 
    292 Wis. 2d 748
    , ¶16.9                           The court of appeals did not
    adopt a bright-line rule to that effect; rather, it concluded
    that       "the    fact        that    [a]    person's       driver's        license        or    other
    official documents are retained by the officer is a key factor
    in assessing whether the person is 'seized.'"                                
    Id. ¶40
            We made a similar statement in Floyd; however, Floyd's
    language          must       be     interpreted      in    context.          There,        Floyd       was
    stopped      because           his    car    registration        had     been       suspended          for
    emissions violations.                  Floyd, 
    377 Wis. 2d 394
    , ¶2.                       Floyd had no
    driver's license with him, but he did identify himself with a
    Wisconsin         State        identification         card,      which       he    handed        to    the
    officer.          
    Id., ¶4
    .            After the officer had drafted the relevant
    citations,             he    returned       to     Floyd's      car    and        while     retaining
    Floyd's identification card, he asked Floyd to step out of the
    car so that he could explain the citations to him.                                       
    Id., ¶5
    .       It
    was    at    this           point    that    Floyd       alleged      that    his        seizure       was
    unlawfully extended.                  
    Id., ¶14
    .
    See United States v. Lee, 
    73 F.3d 1034
    , 1040 (10th Cir.
    9
    1996), overruled on other grounds by United States v. Holt, 
    264 F.3d 1215
    , 1226 n.6 (10th Cir. 2001); United States v. Lambert,
    
    46 F.3d 1064
    , 1068 (10th Cir. 1995); United States v. Walker,
    
    933 F.2d 812
    , 817 (10th Cir. 1991).
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    No.    2019AP447-CR
    ¶41          After Floyd had exited the vehicle, the officer asked
    if he could search him, to which request the circuit court found
    Floyd consented.                 
    Id., ¶9
    .           Floyd argued on appeal that his
    "consent"         was     not    voluntary.              "Specifically,          he    argued      that
    because Deputy Ruffalo had not returned his identification card
    prior    to       asking        whether    he   would           consent    to     a    search,     his
    response          could    not     be     voluntary         because        he    was    unlawfully
    seized."           
    Id., ¶31
    .           This argument conflated Floyd's earlier
    argument          that     his    seizure       became           unlawful       because       it    was
    extended with an implication that consent was not voluntarily
    given because the officer had not returned his identification
    card.      
    Id., ¶32
    .      Although         we    reasoned        that    if    an    officer
    retains       a    person's        identification               "there    is     good   reason       to
    believe the person was not 'free to leave' at that time," 
    id., ¶31,
     we concluded that it had no bearing on Floyd's seizure
    because his initial seizure was lawful and that seizure was not
    unlawfully extended during the explanation of the tickets or the
    officer's subsequent request to search him.                               
    Id., ¶31
    .
    ¶42          It was statements from Luebeck and Floyd that may have
    caused the court of appeals to certify a question to us.                                             We
    stand by          statements       made in the contexts presented                            in those
    cases.        While the withholding or retention of an individual's
    driver's          license        may      be    a        "key     factor,"        important,         or
    analytically significant, we decline to set forth a bright-line
    rule that any time an officer retains an individual's driver's
    license that person is seized.                           Rather, courts should continue
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    No.     2019AP447-CR
    to    analyze      whether       the    individual            is    seized     based          upon   the
    totality of circumstances.
    ¶43    The       above    cases       teach       that       police     conduct          is   the
    dispositive         factor       in     determining             whether        a        seizure      has
    occurred.         As the Supreme Court clearly set out in Bostick, "the
    crucial      test       is    whether,        taking         into     account           all    of    the
    circumstances           surrounding          the    encounter,          the       police       conduct
    would 'have communicated to a reasonable person that he was not
    at    liberty      to    ignore       the     police         presence       and    go     about      his
    business.'"          Bostick,          
    501 U.S. at 437
         (quoting          Michigan      v.
    Chesternut, 
    486 U.S. 567
    , 569 (1988)).
    ¶44    Applying the above principles to this case, based upon
    the    totality         of    the     circumstances,               Oetzel     taking          VanBeek's
    license back to his squad car did not amount to a seizure.
    Oetzel    took      VanBeek's         and     Sitzberger's           licenses           back    to   the
    squad car upon his request to do so and with their permissions.
    The    video-cam        Oetzel      was      wearing         recorded       that        when    Oetzel
    received the licenses that they handed to him, he began to move
    away from VanBeek's car.                     He said, "Okay. I'll be right back,
    okay?"       VanBeek and Sitzberger both replied "alright."                                          This
    appears      to    be     a     continuation            of    what    had     been        a    cordial
    interaction among VanBeek, Sitzberger and Oetzel.
    ¶45    A reasonable person in VanBeek's position would have
    understood that their "alright" responses permitted Oetzel to
    retain her driver's license and that her ability to lawfully
    operate her vehicle would be delayed until Oetzel returned to
    her car.          Further, Oetzel reasonably relied on their verbal
    22
    No.       2019AP447-CR
    interactions before he returned to his squad car.                         Accordingly,
    under the totality of circumstances that bear on the certified
    question, VanBeek consented to Oetzel's retention of her license
    until he returned from his squad car, and therefore, she was not
    seized when he took her driver's license to the squad car and
    ran a warrant check.10
    D.   Other Issues Presented
    1.     Seizure
    ¶46    Having re-affirmed that the totality of circumstances
    continues      to    be    the   correct      analytical     metric      by    which   to
    analyze      claimed      seizures,     we   determine      based   on    that    metric
    whether VanBeek was seized at any subsequent point during her
    interaction with Oetzel.                We conclude that VanBeek was seized
    when    Oetzel      returned     to   her     vehicle,   retained        her    driver's
    license, and continued to pose questions to her and Sitzberger
    in   order     to   prevent      them      from   leaving    before      the    K9   unit
    arrived.       We conclude that a reasonable person in VanBeek's
    position would not have felt free to drive away and terminate
    the encounter with Oetzel while he retained her driver's license
    and continued to question her and Sitzberger.
    Although we determine that in this case there was not a
    10
    seizure when Oetzel took their identifications back to his squad
    car, nothing in this opinion should be taken as concluding that
    an officer running a records check back at the officer's squad
    car will never amount to a seizure. Courts are to continue to
    analyze the totality of circumstances of each encounter.
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    No.     2019AP447-CR
    ¶47   We also conclude that there are no facts from which to
    conclude that VanBeek consented to Oetzel's retention of her
    driver's license after he returned to her vehicle.                        Rather, a
    reasonable person in VanBeek's position would have believed that
    Oetzel would return her driver's license as soon as he returned
    from his squad car so "he could get out of here."
    ¶48   However,    when     Oetzel        returned,      rather     than    "just
    getting out of here" as he originally said, he retained their
    driver's    licenses.       He   also     continued      to    question    them    for
    nearly eight more minutes, in order to hold them until the K9
    unit he had requested arrived.                 Merely because this was not a
    traffic stop in the ordinary sense, it does not follow that
    Oetzel's    conduct     did      not    turn      the     interaction      into     an
    investigative detention.
    ¶49   Oetzel's questioning after his return from his squad
    car was repetitive of questions he had already asked and they
    had   answered.       VanBeek     was   confused        by    Oetzel's    repetitive
    questions and asked him if her "license was bad," indicating
    that she had expected to have her license returned and be on her
    way back to Cascade.
    ¶50   A   reasonable       person        being    repetitively      questioned
    while the officer retained her driver's license would not feel
    free to drive away and thereby terminate the encounter.                         It was
    Oetzel's    conduct    of   retaining      their       driver's    licenses      while
    repeatedly asking questions that she and Sitzberger had already
    answered, that coerced VanBeek to remain in Sheboygan.                           Also,
    Oetzel's questioning was intended to require them to remain in
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    No.   2019AP447-CR
    Sheboygan so that time would pass and the K9 unit would appear
    to sniff for drugs.     Accordingly, VanBeek was seized during the
    second round of repetitive questions while Oetzel retained her
    driver's license.11
    2.   Reasonable Suspicion
    ¶51   A seizure runs afoul of the Fourth Amendment if it is
    unreasonable, and a temporary detention is unreasonable if under
    the totality of circumstances it is not supported by reasonable
    suspicion.    Coffee, 
    391 Wis. 2d 831
    , ¶2.     As we have concluded
    that Oetzel seized VanBeek during their second interaction, we
    now determine whether the seizure was supported by reasonable
    suspicion.    We conclude that it was not.
    ¶52   Reasonable suspicion, as with other Fourth Amendment
    inquiries, is an objective test that examines the totality of
    circumstances.     State v. Guzy, 
    139 Wis. 2d 663
    , 675, 
    407 N.W.2d 548
     (1987).      An officer has reasonable suspicion if he or she
    has "a suspicion grounded in specific, articulable facts and
    reasonable inferences from those facts, that the individual has
    11The circuit court concluded, and the State argued, that
    this interaction was justified by the community caretaker
    doctrine.    We disagree.    An officer exercises a bona fide
    community caretaker function generally "when       the officer
    discovers a member of the public who is in need of assistance."
    State v. Kramer, 
    2009 WI 14
    , ¶32, 
    315 Wis. 2d 414
    , 
    759 N.W.2d 598
    .    As we discussed above, we conclude that Oetzel's
    interaction with VanBeek was not to determine whether she or
    Sitzberger were in need of assistance but was rather to
    investigate the anonymous call that the police department
    received.   Accordingly, Oetzel was not performing a bona fide
    community caretaker function and the doctrine does not apply
    here.
    25
    No.    2019AP447-CR
    committed a crime."               
    Id.
            "An inchoate and unparticularized
    suspicion or 'hunch' will not suffice."                       
    Id.
     (citing Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 27
    ).
    ¶53   The State offered the following five facts that it
    contends     support        the   conclusion         that     Oetzel        had    reasonable
    suspicion that VanBeek and Sitzberger had been, or were about to
    be, involved in criminal conduct:                     (1) "VanBeek and Sitzberger
    were    hanging      around       a     neighborhood         for       at   least       several
    minutes"; (2) "Oetzel did not receive a satisfactory explanation
    for that behavior"; (3) "the suspicious behavior here occurred
    late at night:         Officer Oetzel began speaking to VanBeek and
    Sitzberger    around        12:22      a.m.";      (4) "an        anonymous       caller      had
    reported     that    two     people         were    sitting       in    a    truck      for   an
    hour. . . .         Based    on       his    training       and    experience,          Officer
    Oetzel thought that people 'are usually utilizing narcotics' if
    they are sitting in a parked vehicle for a long period of time";
    and (5) "someone here made brief contact with a vehicle.                                      The
    concerned caller told police that someone with a backpack had
    come to the truck and then left."                     To be sure, because we have
    concluded     that      the       seizure          occurred        during         the    second
    interaction, we note that Oetzel also knew that VanBeek had
    overdosed earlier in the year and that Sitzberger was on some
    sort of supervision.
    ¶54   In   response,        VanBeek         argues    that      there      is    nothing
    suspicious about sitting in a car and that the facts derived
    from the anonymous call, namely that the car had been in the
    location for an hour and that someone approached the vehicle
    26
    No.     2019AP447-CR
    with a backpack and then left without it, were insufficient to
    support reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct.
    ¶55     We begin with the anonymous call.           "[A]n anonymous tip
    alone seldom demonstrates the informant's basis of knowledge or
    veracity . . . ."      Alabama v. White, 
    496 U.S. 325
    , 329 (1990)
    (citing Illinois v. Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    , 237 (1983)).                           "[A]n
    informant's       'veracity,'         'reliability,'       and         'basis       of
    knowledge,'" are "highly relevant" to testing the strength of
    anonymous     information    within     the    totality    of     circumstances.
    State v. Richardson, 
    156 Wis. 2d 128
    , 140, 
    456 N.W.2d 830
     (1990)
    (cleaned      up).     In    Richardson,        we     concluded       that       "the
    corroboration by police of innocent details of an anonymous tip
    may   under    the   totality    of    the    circumstances       give     rise    to
    reasonable     suspicion    to   make    a    stop."      
    Id. at 142
    .       We
    articulated two guiding principles for assessing the weight that
    we should place on anonymous calls:
    First, the greater the amount, specificity and
    uniqueness of the detail contained in an anonymous
    tip, the more likely it is that the informant has an
    adequate basis of knowledge.       When attempting to
    define the nature of the verified details of the tip
    necessary, the White Court placed special emphasis on
    the police verification of the caller's predictions of
    the third party/suspect's future actions. White, [
    496 U.S. at 332
    ].     The Court referred to this as a
    verification of significant aspects of the tip.     We
    adopt this aspect of verification of the anonymous tip
    which serves to avoid investigative stops based on
    minimal facts that any passerby or resident on the
    street could enunciate.      Second, when significant
    aspects   of  an   anonymous   tip  are  independently
    corroborated by the police, the inference arises that
    the anonymous informant is telling the truth about the
    allegations  of   criminal   activity.     Under  this
    27
    No.   2019AP447-CR
    principle, police who have corroborated significant
    aspects of a tip are allowed the reasonable inference
    under the circumstances that if an informant is
    correct as to these significant aspects, he or she is
    more probably than not correct as to the ultimate fact
    of criminal activity.
    
    Id. at 142-43
     (footnote omitted).
    ¶56     We    continue     to   abide     by    these   principles,    but   we
    conclude that the dearth of significant facts enunciated by the
    anonymous caller in this case substantially lowers the weight
    that we place on the call in the totality of circumstances.
    Unlike       Richardson,     White     or   Gates,12       wherein   the   respective
    tipsters      were    able   to    provide       unique,    useful   and   predictive
    information to police prior to police interaction, the caller
    here merely told Sheboygan police that a non-descript truck,
    occupied by two people, was parked on the street for "an hour"
    and that someone had approached the vehicle with a backpack and
    then left without it.             Those facts are "minimal facts that any
    passerby or resident on the street could enunciate."                       See 
    id. at 142
    .        The caller did not allege that the persons in the truck
    were engaged in criminal activity.                    Accordingly, as we consider
    See State v. Richardson, 
    156 Wis. 2d 128
    , 132, 
    456 N.W.2d 12
    830 (1990) (the tip provided "a detailed description of the
    defendant and his immediate future plans"); Alabama v. White,
    
    496 U.S. 325
    , 327 (1990) (the call "stat[ed] that Vanessa White
    would be leaving 235-C Lynwood Terrace Apartments at a
    particular time in a brown Plymouth station wagon with the right
    taillight lens broken, that she would be going to Dobey's Motel,
    and that she would be in possession of about an ounce of cocaine
    inside a brown attaché case"); Illinois v. Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    ,
    225 (1983) (the tip was a letter that described how the Gates
    sold drugs including the specific process the two used to travel
    between Florida and Illinois).
    28
    No.    2019AP447-CR
    a call about a non-descript truck parked on the street with two
    occupants, the additional assertion that someone came to the
    truck with a backpack and left without it does not weigh heavily
    in our analysis.         Apparently, those facts were not significant
    to Oetzel because he never asked VanBeek or Sitzberger about a
    third person or a backpack.
    ¶57     The call in this case is more analogous to that in
    Florida    v.    J.L.,   
    529 U.S. 266
       (2000).      There,    a    person
    anonymously called the police to inform them "that a young black
    male standing at a particular bus stop and wearing a plaid shirt
    was carrying a gun."       
    Id. at 268
    .       Officers responded, saw three
    men "just hanging out" and one of the individuals at the bus
    stop matched the caller's description.              
    Id.
        "Apart from the
    tip, the officers had no reason to suspect any of the three of
    illegal conduct."         The officers frisked J.L. and uncovered a
    firearm.13      
    Id. ¶58
         The Court concluded that "[t]he tip . . . lacked the
    moderate indicia of reliability present in White and essential
    to the Court's decision in that case."             
    Id. at 271
    .          Further,
    the Court noted "[t]hat the allegation about the gun turned out
    to be correct does not suggest that the officers, prior to the
    frisks, had a reasonable basis for suspecting J.L. of engaging
    in unlawful conduct."          
    Id.
       The Court rejected the petitioner's
    13At the time of his arrest, J.L. was 16 years of age, and
    "was charged . . . with carrying a concealed firearm without a
    license and possessing a firearm while under the age of 18."
    Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 269 (2000).
    29
    No.     2019AP447-CR
    argument "that the tip was reliable because its description of
    the suspect's visible attributes proved accurate."                           
    Id. at 271
    .
    In rejecting Florida's argument, the Supreme Court held that "a
    tip [has to] be reliable in its assertion of illegality, not
    just in its tendency to identify a determinate person."                            
    Id. at 272
    .
    ¶59    Here,     and     similar    to     J.L.,       Oetzel    was      able    to
    corroborate only the identifying factors given by the caller,
    e.g., that there was a truck parked at the alleged location that
    had two occupants.            The only fact that could have been somewhat
    suspicious        was   that    the    caller    said     someone      approached       the
    vehicle with a backpack and then left without it.                                However,
    Oetzel asked no questions about a third person or a backpack,
    and the record does not reflect whether such a person existed.
    We agree with the parties that the call, alone, could not have
    supported reasonable suspicion.                 We conclude that the call was
    useful only to the extent that it may have "help[ed] the police
    correctly         identify     the    person    whom    the    tipster       mean[t]     to
    accuse."      See 
    id. at 272
    .
    ¶60    Aside from the call, all that Oetzel knew at the time
    of the seizure was that VanBeek overdosed earlier in the year
    and that Sitzberger was on supervision.                   Oetzel did not know the
    source of drugs that caused VanBeek's overdose, whether from a
    physician or from an illegal source.                    There is nothing in the
    record       to    connect     her    overdose    in    February        with     criminal
    activity in November.
    30
    No.     2019AP447-CR
    ¶61       That Sitzberger was on supervision also provides no
    reason to believe that he was involved in criminal activity with
    VanBeek.        As the Tenth Circuit explained in United States v.
    Sandoval, 
    29 F.3d 537
    , 542 (10th Cir. 1994), a prior conviction
    for   an    unknown          offense    provides           no    support    for     reasonable
    suspicion.        
    Id.
            If this were not the case, those on supervision
    subsequent        to     a    conviction       could        be    searched      anywhere     and
    anytime that the fact of supervision became known.
    ¶62       Furthermore, Oetzel testified that he neither saw nor
    smelled any indication of drug use, and VanBeek's window was
    rolled down as she spoke with him.                               Accordingly, we are not
    convinced that at the time of the seizure the State met its
    burden     of     proving      that    Oetzel        had    reasonable       suspicion       that
    criminal activity was afoot.
    ¶63       Two cases from the court of appeals are supportive of
    our conclusion.              In State v. Betow, 
    226 Wis. 2d 90
    , 95-98, 
    593 N.W.2d 499
          (Ct.     App.     1999),        where       Betow    was     stopped    for
    speeding,       the      court    of    appeals        concluded         that     the   officer
    prolonged       an     initially       valid    traffic          stop    without    reasonable
    suspicion         that        Betow    had      controlled          substances          in   his
    possession.          The State argued that reasonable suspicion existed
    based on the following facts:                   (1) Betow's wallet had a mushroom
    sticker on it, which the State argued denoted drug use; (2) the
    stop occurred late at night; (3) Betow seemed nervous; (4) Betow
    was returning to Appleton from Madison, a city that the State
    argued was associated with ready drug obtainment; and (5) Betow
    did not provide the officer with a plausible explanation for his
    31
    No.     2019AP447-CR
    purpose in Madison.                  
    Id.
            The court of appeals examined these
    facts       as    the    totality          of    circumstances       relative       to   Betow's
    seizure and concluded that the officer did not have reasonable
    suspicion to prolong the stop.14                        
    Id. at 98
    .
    ¶64        In State v. Gammons, 
    2001 WI App 36
    , 
    241 Wis. 2d 296
    ,
    
    625 N.W.2d 623
    , Gammons was a passenger in a car stopped because
    it    did        not    have    a    rear       license     plate.       
    Id., ¶2
    .       After
    questioning            extended      beyond        the    license     plate,       Gammons    was
    arrested for possession with intent to deliver cocaine.                                       
    Id., ¶1
    .         He    asserted      that       the    officer's       questions     exceeded      the
    permissible            scope    of   the        stop.      
    Id.
         The   court      of   appeals
    analyzed the following facts:                      (1) "an out-of-town vehicle in an
    area    purportedly            known   for       drug     activity";     (2) "a      night-time
    stop"; (3) "and a nervous suspect."                              
    Id., ¶23
    .      The court of
    appeals held that these facts, taken together, did not form a
    sufficient basis for reasonable suspicion.                           
    Id., ¶25
    .        The court
    held that because the officer did not have reasonable suspicion
    of drug activity, "the Fourth Amendment required [the officer]
    to terminate the stop and allow Gammons and the other men to
    continue about their business."                           
    Id., ¶24
    .       As we set forth
    Although Betow and Gammons each dealt with the extension
    14
    of a traditional traffic stop, an officer may not extend a
    lawful traffic stop "absent the reasonable suspicion ordinarily
    demanded to justify detaining an individual."       Rodriguez v.
    United States, 
    575 U.S. 348
    , 355 (2015). Because the reasonable
    suspicion analysis is the same for extensions of stops as it is
    for initial stops, see State v. Betow, 
    226 Wis. 2d 90
    , 95, 
    593 N.W.2d 499
     (Ct. App. 1999), we apply the principles articulated
    in those cases to the reasonable suspicion assessment here.
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    No.   2019AP447-CR
    above, the State's proffered foundation for reasonable suspicion
    here is considerably weaker than those in Betow and Gammons.
    ¶65    Accordingly, based on the totality of circumstances,
    Oetzel did not have reasonable suspicion when he returned to
    VanBeek's truck, retained her driver's license and continued to
    question her; therefore her seizure was unlawful.
    III.        CONCLUSION
    ¶66    On   the   certified     question     of   whether       a   driver   is
    seized when a police officer takes the driver's identification
    to the officer's squad car to run a records check, we conclude
    that    the    answer     depends     on     the   totality     of     circumstances
    surrounding        the   encounter.        Further,     while   VanBeek      was    not
    seized when Officer Oetzel took her driver's license to run a
    records check, VanBeek was seized when Oetzel returned to her
    vehicle, withheld her driver's license and continued to question
    her and her passenger in order to hold her until a drug-sniff
    dog, i.e., the K9 unit, that he had requested arrived.                       Finally,
    we conclude that, based on the totality of circumstances, Oetzel
    did not have reasonable suspicion that VanBeek was engaged in
    criminal activity at the time he seized her.                     Accordingly, we
    reverse the circuit court's judgment of conviction and remand
    with instruction to grant VanBeek's motion to suppress.
    By the Court.—Reversed and remanded with instructions. 
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    No.    2019AP447-CR.rfd
    ¶67     REBECCA     FRANK    DALLET,      J.     (concurring).            I    concur
    that Heather VanBeek was unlawfully seized when police retained
    her driver's license while repetitively questioning her.1                                 I
    disagree,    however,     with   the    conclusion         that    VanBeek        was   not
    seized earlier in her encounter with police.                        The totality of
    the circumstances reveals that VanBeek was seized when police
    took her driver's license back to the squad car for a records
    check because, at that point, a reasonable person would not feel
    free to leave or to otherwise end the interaction.
    I
    ¶68     Sheboygan Police Officer Sung Oetzel responded to an
    anonymous call reporting that two people had been sitting in a
    parked truck in the same spot for approximately an hour and that
    a person wearing a backpack had approached the truck.                              Oetzel
    approached the truck with his squad car's spotlight activated
    and asked VanBeek, who was sitting in the driver's seat, why and
    how long she had been parked there.                VanBeek explained that she
    had been there about ten minutes waiting for her passenger and
    that they were about to drive home to Cascade.
    ¶69     Oetzel    responded        that    the     explanation          "sound[ed]
    legit,"     but   still    asked       VanBeek       and     her        passenger       for
    identification "for [his] report."                 The passenger asked if he
    could just write down his information, but Oetzel stated that he
    needed a photo ID to "compare faces."                      Both VanBeek and her
    passenger provided their driver's licenses.                   With both licenses
    1  I join the majority/lead opinion with respect to ¶¶22-35
    and ¶¶46-65.
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    in hand, Oetzel stated "I'll be right back, okay," and as he
    walked      away,        VanBeek's         passenger     responded,           "alright."
    VanBeek's response to Oetzel was unclear.                   Before Oetzel reached
    his squad car, he explained to another officer that he had not
    observed "anything suspicious."
    ¶70     Oetzel checked VanBeek's record from his squad car and
    learned that she had overdosed several months earlier.                              Oetzel
    then ordered a drug-sniffing dog to the scene.                          He returned to
    VanBeek's       truck,      retaining       her   license    while        repetitively
    questioning her and her passenger until the dog arrived.                               Once
    on scene, the dog alerted officers to the evidence underlying
    VanBeek's conviction and this appeal.
    ¶71     We review the court of appeals' certified question of
    "whether    a     consensual       encounter      becomes    an    unconstitutional
    seizure under the Fourth Amendment when an officer requests and
    takes an individual's drivers license to the officer's squad car
    without reasonable suspicion."                While I agree that such conduct
    is not a seizure in all circumstances, I conclude that under the
    circumstances here, it was.
    II
    ¶72     Interactions between citizens and the police fall on a
    spectrum.        On   one    end     are    interactions     outside          the   Fourth
    Amendment, such as voluntary encounters in public spaces, which
    may include the police requesting someone's identification.                            See
    Florida v. Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    , 437 (1991).                      Further down the
    spectrum    and     subject    to    the     Fourth    Amendment        are    Terry    and
    traffic stops——short investigative seizures permissible only if
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    No.   2019AP447-CR.rfd
    the police have reasonable suspicion that a                               person has just
    committed,         is    committing,          or   is   about    to    commit    a     crime    or
    traffic violation.               Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
                         (1968) (Terry
    stops); State v. Floyd, 
    2017 WI 78
    , ¶20, 
    377 Wis. 2d 394
    , 
    898 N.W.2d 560
     (traffic stops).                    At the opposite end of the spectrum
    from voluntary encounters is a seizure2:                              police conduct that
    "deprives the individual of dominion over his or her person."
    E.g., Horton v. California, 
    496 U.S. 128
    , 133 (1990).                                    Police
    conduct          constitutes    a     seizure          when,   considering       all    of     the
    circumstances, it would cause a reasonable person to believe
    that       she    is    not   "free      to    leave."3         I.N.S.    v.    Delgado,       
    466 U.S. 210
    , 215 (1984).
    ¶73        Interactions      on    the      spectrum      are   dynamic       such    that
    police conduct can transform an initially voluntary encounter
    The other Fourth Amendment event, a "search,"
    2                                                                                is not
    alleged or implicated during this first interaction                                     and is
    therefore not discussed in this opinion.
    Courts sometimes state this question differently depending
    3
    on the case's particular facts.         State v. Williams, 
    2002 WI 94
    , ¶22 n.6, 
    255 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    646 N.W.2d 834
    .      Regardless of
    how   the   test  is   phrased,   the  "key   question"   is  the
    same: "whether    a   reasonable   person   can   'terminate  the
    encounter' with police."        Peery v. City of Miami, 
    977 F.3d 1061
    , 1071 (11th Cir. 2020) (quoting Florida v. Bostick,
    
    501 U.S. 429
    , 439 (1991)); see also, e.g., Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 435-36
     (asking whether a reasonable person would feel "free
    to decline the officers' requests or otherwise terminate the
    [police] encounter" because the defendant, a passenger on an
    interstate bus, was already not free to leave for reasons
    outside the police's presence); Michigan v. Chesternut, 
    486 U.S. 567
    , 576 (1988) (asking whether a police car accelerating
    to drive alongside a defendant was so intimidating that a
    reasonable person would not feel "free to disregard the police
    presence and go about his business").
    3
    No.   2019AP447-CR.rfd
    into         a   seizure.          See    United      States      v.     Monsivais,         
    848 F.3d 353
    , 358 (5th Cir. 2017) (officer converted a non-Fourth
    Amendment roadside assistance or "welfare check" into a Fourth
    Amendment seizure by announcing he would pat down the stranded
    driver).         If an individual is seized without sufficient Fourth
    Amendment         justification,         then    subsequently         obtained       evidence
    must         generally     be    suppressed.          See     State     v.    Scull,     
    2015 WI 22
    , ¶¶20-21, 
    361 Wis. 2d 288
    , 
    862 N.W.2d 562
    .
    ¶74     Because        Oetzel    lacked      reasonable         suspicion       that
    VanBeek had committed or was about to commit a crime or traffic
    violation, any seizure of VanBeek, even a temporary one, would
    be unlawful.4            Oetzel's encounter with VanBeek started out as
    voluntary,         requiring       no    special      justification          to     initially
    approach and question VanBeek in her truck since she was parked
    on   a       public    street.       See,    e.g.,     United     States       v.    Kim,   
    25 F.3d 1426
    , 1430 n.1 (9th Cir. 1994); 4 Wayne R. LaFave, Search &
    Seizure § 9.4(a) (6th ed. 2020).                     Thus the question is whether
    Oetzel's         subsequent        actions      toward       VanBeek     escalated      this
    initially voluntary interaction to the level of a seizure.
    ¶75     The   interaction       moved      toward    a   seizure     when     Oetzel
    asked VanBeek for her photo 
    ID.
                          Generally, such a request is
    There is no support in the record for the community
    4
    caretaker exception.   Oetzel observed neither VanBeek nor her
    passenger in distress and thus lacked "reasonable grounds to
    believe there [was] an emergency at hand and an immediate need
    for [his] assistance for the protection of life or property."
    See State v. Ferguson, 
    2001 WI App 102
    , ¶17, 
    244 Wis. 2d 17
    , 
    629 N.W.2d 788
     (quoting United States v. Cervantes, 
    219 F.3d 882
    ,
    888 (9th Cir. 2000)).
    4
    No.      2019AP447-CR.rfd
    not a Fourth Amendment seizure.                   See Delgado, 
    466 U.S. at 216
    .
    But Oetzel's conduct indicated that his request was in fact a
    command that VanBeek could not refuse.                      See Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 437
     (explaining that a seizure occurs when police "ask to
    examine the individual's identification" in a way that indicates
    "compliance with their requests is required").                               Specifically,
    Oetzel         rejected     the    offer     to     write    down           the   requested
    information,           stating    instead    that     he   needed       a    photo   ID   to
    "compare        faces."      When    an     officer    rejects      a       less-intrusive
    alternative, a reasonable person could believe that her only
    other option is to comply with the officer's "request."                            Cf. 
    id. ¶76
        Even so, until Oetzel walked away, VanBeek at least
    had an opportunity to ask for her license back so she could
    terminate the encounter and go on her way (although whether
    anyone would actually feel comfortable doing this is another
    question5).        Once Oetzel left the side of VanBeek's car, however,
    that opportunity vanished.             No reasonable person would think she
    could drive away when an officer walks off with her driver's
    license, particularly when doing so would violate state law.
    See Wis. Stat. § 343.18(1) (2020-21) (prohibiting the operation
    of   a       vehicle    without    immediately      possessing          one's     license);
    Floyd, 
    377 Wis. 2d 394
    , ¶31 ("If an officer withholds a person's
    For that reason, several courts have held that persons are
    5
    seized when an officer questions them while retaining their
    license.   See United States v. Lopez, 
    443 F.3d 1280
    , 1285-86
    (10th   Cir. 2006);   United  States   v.  Chavez-Villarreal,   
    3 F.3d 124
    , 128 (5th Cir. 1993); United States v. Jordan, 
    958 F.2d 1085
    , 1087-89 (D.C. Cir. 1992).
    5
    No.   2019AP447-CR.rfd
    documents, there is good reason to believe the person was not
    'free   to    leave'      at    that    time.");      see    also     United    States       v.
    Thompson, 
    712 F.2d 1356
    , 1359 (11th Cir. 1983) (concluding that
    an    officer    "effectively          immobilized"         and   therefore         seized    a
    driver by retaining the driver's license because driving away
    without the license would violate state law).                         Thus, VanBeek was
    unlawfully       seized        because    Oetzel's         conduct      would       cause    a
    reasonable person in VanBeek's circumstances to feel as though
    she    were   not    free       to   leave     or    to     otherwise       terminate       the
    encounter.       See Delaware v. Prouse, 
    440 U.S. 648
    , 653-55, 657
    (1979) (holding that, absent reasonable suspicion, "detaining
    the driver in order to check his driver's license" is a Fourth
    Amendment violation).
    ¶77    VanBeek's alleged "consent" to Oetzel confiscating her
    license does not change that conclusion for two reasons.                               First,
    it    confuses      the    role      consent       plays    in    a   Fourth        Amendment
    analysis.       A person's consent informs the reasonableness of a
    seizure, not whether an officer's conduct constitutes a seizure
    in the first place.            See United States v. Jordan, 
    958 F.2d 1085
    ,
    1088    (D.C.     Cir. 1992)           (explaining         that   whether       a    seizure
    occurred depends only on what the "police conduct reasonably
    communicated").           I have uncovered no case supporting the novel
    proposition that one can consent to a seizure of her person.
    Second, even if one could so consent, the record contains no
    support for the conclusion that VanBeek unequivocally consented
    to Oetzel's taking her license back to his squad car for the
    purpose of running a records check.                         See State v. Reed, 2018
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    No.   2019AP447-CR.rfd
    WI 109, ¶¶8, 57, 
    384 Wis. 2d 469
    , 
    920 N.W.2d 56
     (holding that,
    in the context of a Fourth Amendment search, consent "must be
    unequivocal and specific").
    ¶78     Instead,      the    record       is,    at    best,    ambiguous      as   to
    whether VanBeek agreed to Oetzel's taking her license back to
    his squad car.          Oetzel did not testify on that point and the
    circuit court made no factual findings regarding what VanBeek
    said to Oetzel or whether she consented to Oetzel taking her
    license    back    to    his    car.         That   leaves    Oetzel's     body-camera
    footage.     The video strongly suggests that when Oetzel took
    VanBeek's license and told her that he would "be right back," he
    was telling VanBeek what he was going to do, not asking for her
    permission to do it.             Oetzel neither informed VanBeek of the
    specific reason why he was taking her license nor awaited her
    response before walking away.                  Moreover, VanBeek's response is
    unclear.     Although      VanBeek's          passenger      responded    to    Oetzel's
    statement by saying "alright," VanBeek's response is muddled and
    lost under her passenger's voice.                    While one might infer that
    she did not say "no," such an inference falls short of the
    unequivocal, affirmative statement the law requires.                          See United
    States v. Carter, 
    378 F.3d 584
    , 588 (6th Cir. 2004) ("Even a
    spoken    assent    to    search       may    be    too    ambiguous     to    establish
    consent     in      certain        circumstances.");               cf.     Reed,        
    384 Wis. 2d 469
    , ¶57         (explaining          that        "mere    acquiescence"        is
    7
    No.    2019AP447-CR.rfd
    insufficient          to     constitute      consent       (quoted    source     omitted)).6
    The record evidence therefore belies any consent justification
    (if one were even possible) for her being seized.
    ¶79      VanBeek was thus seized when Oetzel took her license
    back       to   his    squad       car.     That      seizure    continued      when      Oetzel
    returned        to     VanBeek's          truck    yet     retained    her     license      and
    repetitively questioned her until a drug-sniffing dog arrived.
    Accordingly,           any    evidence       obtained      as    a   result    of    Oetzel's
    unlawful        seizure       of    VanBeek       must   be     suppressed.         For    these
    reasons, I concur.
    ¶80      I     am   authorized        to    state      that   Justices     ANN      WALSH
    BRADLEY and JILL J. KAROFSKY join this concurrence.
    Even assuming the passenger's "alright" constitutes
    6
    consent regarding his license, he has neither actual nor
    apparent "common authority" to consent on VanBeek's behalf. Cf.
    State v. Wantland, 
    2014 WI 58
    , ¶23, 
    355 Wis. 2d 135
    , 
    848 N.W.2d 810
    ; see also United States v. Woodrum, 
    208 F.3d 8
    , 12
    (1st Cir. 2000) (order denying rehearing en banc) (Lynch, J.,
    dissenting) ("[S]imply, and obviously, a person cannot give
    third-party consent to the . . . seizure of another person.").
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    No.   2019AP447-CR.akz
    ¶81       ANNETTE KINGSLAND ZIEGLER, C.J.                 (dissenting).        While
    I agree with the majority/lead opinion's1 conclusion that VanBeek
    was not seized when Officer Oetzel took her driver's license to
    his squad car and ran a warrant check, see majority/lead op.,
    ¶45, I write separately because                    VanBeek was not seized when
    Officer        Oetzel   returned     to   VanBeek's        vehicle        and   continued
    asking her follow-up questions.                   When looking at the totality of
    the circumstances, it is clear that VanBeek was free to ask for
    her       driver's      license      back          and    end       the     interaction.
    Consequently, her encounter with Officer Oetzel was consensual,
    and she was not seized.           Accordingly, I respectfully dissent.
    I.     ANALYSIS
    ¶82       For purposes of the Fourth Amendment, there are two
    types     of    seizures.     The     first        type   is    a    "physical      force"
    seizure.         See United States v. Mendenhall, 
    446 U.S. 544
    , 552
    (1980).        The second type is a "show of authority" seizure.                          
    Id.
    Under either type of seizure, a seizure occurs "[o]nly when the
    officer . . . has        in   some      way       restrained     the      liberty    of    a
    citizen."        
    Id. 1
    Justice Roggensack's opinion was joined in part by
    Justices Ann Walsh Bradley, Dallet, and Karofsky. Specifically,
    those justices joined Justice Roggensack's opinion "with respect
    to ¶¶22-35 and ¶¶46-65."   Concurrence, ¶67 n.1.   Thus, for the
    sake of clarity, I refer to Justice Roggensack's opinion as the
    "majority/lead" opinion throughout this dissent because the
    opinion in its entirety is not joined by a majority of the
    court. The opinion is a "majority" with respect to ¶¶22-35 and
    ¶¶46-65.    All other paragraphs represent the rationale of
    Justice Roggensack and thus constitute a lead opinion.
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    No.    2019AP447-CR.akz
    ¶83     While an officer cannot unreasonably seize a person,
    this does not mean that police are prohibited from interacting
    with members of the public.                    Police and members of the public
    regularly         engage    in     "consensual         encounters,"         which   do    not
    implicate the Fourth Amendment.                     See Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    ,
    19 n.16 (1968); see also State v. Griffiths, 
    2000 WI 72
    , ¶39,
    
    236 Wis. 2d 48
    , 
    613 N.W.2d 72
    .                      As the United States Supreme
    Court     has      explained,         an    encounter       between     police      and    an
    individual "will not trigger Fourth Amendment scrutiny unless it
    loses its consensual nature."                  Florida v. Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    ,
    434 (1991).             Under this framework, we have held that certain
    encounters         between       police      and      individuals      are     consensual,
    including         the     police      approaching        individuals,         asking      them
    questions,         requesting      their       identification,         and     asking      for
    consent      to    search.         Griffiths,         
    236 Wis. 2d 48
    ,       ¶39   (citing
    Bostick,        
    501 U.S. at 434-35
    ).         These     interactions         are
    permissible under the Fourth Amendment "as long as the police do
    not convey a message that compliance with their requests is
    required."        Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 434-35
    .
    ¶84     Although "consensual encounters" are not subject to
    Fourth Amendment scrutiny, an officer cannot temporarily detain
    a   person      for     investigative         purposes      without    implicating        the
    Fourth Amendment because such a detention is a seizure.                                Terry,
    
    392 U.S. at 30
    .             Such temporary, investigative detentions are
    referred to as Terry stops.                     See, e.g., State v. Blatterman,
    
    2015 WI 46
    , ¶24, 
    362 Wis. 2d 138
    , 
    864 N.W.2d 26
    .                              For a Terry
    stop to pass Fourth Amendment scrutiny, the officer must have
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    No.   2019AP447-CR.akz
    "reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being
    committed, or is about to be committed."         State v. Young, 
    2006 WI 98
    , ¶20, 
    294 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    717 N.W.2d 729
    ; see also Wis. Stat.
    § 968.24.
    ¶85     To   determine   whether   an   encounter   between   police
    officers and an individual was either a consensual encounter or
    a seizure, we "must consider all the circumstances surrounding
    the encounter to determine whether the police conduct would have
    communicated to a reasonable person that the person was not free
    to decline the officers' requests or otherwise terminate the
    encounter."      Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 439
    .    Phrased differently, we
    must determine, under the totality of the circumstances, whether
    "a reasonable person would feel free 'to disregard the police
    and go about his business.'"      
    Id. at 434
     (quoting California v.
    Hodari D., 
    499 U.S. 621
    , 628 (1991)).2         "The test is objective
    and considers whether an innocent reasonable person, rather than
    the specific defendant" would have felt free to terminate the
    encounter and go about their business.       County of Grant v. Vogt,
    
    2014 WI 76
    , ¶30, 
    356 Wis. 2d 343
    , 
    850 N.W.2d 253
    .            Even if an
    innocent reasonable person would have felt free to terminate the
    encounter and go about their business, "but the person at issue
    nonetheless remain[s] in police presence, perhaps because of a
    2  As part of the totality of the circumstances, as explained
    in the majority/lead opinion's answer to the certified question
    in this case, "an officer's retention of an individual's
    driver's license is a significant but not the dispositive fact."
    Majority/lead op., ¶36.
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    desire to be cooperative, there is no seizure."                                          Young, 
    294 Wis. 2d 1
    , ¶37.
    ¶86     Applying this test to the facts of VanBeek's case, as
    capably set forth in the majority/lead opinion, it is clear that
    VanBeek was not seized when Officer Oetzel either went back to
    his    squad       car    or    when     Officer         Oetzel      returned       to    VanBeek's
    vehicle and retained her identification.3
    ¶87     I    agree       with    the    majority/lead            opinion's         statement
    "that      [Officer]       Oetzel       taking      VanBeek's         license        back   to    his
    squad car did not amount to a seizure."                              Majority/lead op., ¶44.
    Such a conclusion is consistent with the longstanding Fourth
    Amendment principles that I just explained.                                    The concurrence
    suggests that there is "no case supporting the novel proposition
    that one can consent to a seizure of her person."                                    Concurrence,
    ¶77.         However,           an     individual         affirmatively             approving      an
    officer's retention of a driver's license indicates that the
    encounter has not lost its consensual nature.                                Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 434
    .         Such    affirmative         approval——commonly              referred      to    as
    consent——is         a     strong       indicator         under       the     totality       of    the
    circumstances            that    the    encounter         has    retained          its   consensual
    nature.        See        Mendenhall,         
    445 U.S. at 558
    .         Thus,    as    the
    majority/lead opinion aptly described, "A reasonable person in
    VanBeek concedes that her encounter with Officer Oetzel
    3
    was consensual when Officer Oetzel first approached her vehicle
    and when she handed Officer Oetzel her license.     The dispute
    arises only with regard to whether the encounter remained
    consensual after Officer Oetzel returned to his squad car with
    VanBeek's identification.
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    VanBeek's position would have understood that [VanBeek's and her
    passenger's] 'alright' responses permitted [Officer] Oetzel to
    retain her driver's license."            Majority/lead op., ¶45.
    ¶88      Moreover,    even   without       her     license,      VanBeek       could
    still "disregard the police and go about [her] business."                               As
    she explained to Officer Oetzel when he first approached, she
    and her passenger were sitting in the vehicle for some period of
    time.       As such, VanBeek's "business"——that she must have felt
    free       to   return   to——was      sitting      in     her     vehicle      with     her
    passenger.         Officer    Oetzel    returning         to    his   squad     car   with
    VanBeek's       driver's    license    in    no    way    impeded       upon   VanBeek's
    business of sitting in her vehicle.                     Furthermore, VanBeek never
    signaled that she wanted to leave, which would indicate that her
    business was leaving the area.                    Her affirmative approval to
    Officer         Oetzel   returning      to        his     squad       car      with     her
    identification strongly suggests that her business was sitting
    in her vehicle, not leaving the area.                     Accordingly, VanBeek was
    not seized when Officer Oetzel returned to his squad car with
    VanBeek's driver's license.4
    The concurrence wrongly concludes to the contrary,
    4
    believing that Officer Oetzel walking away with VanBeek's
    driver's   license  automatically  transformed   the  consensual
    encounter into a seizure. Concurrence, ¶76. Such a conclusion
    effectively asks for a bright-line rule that whenever an officer
    walks away with an individual's driver's license, the individual
    is automatically seized. As is routinely stated, "[t]he Supreme
    Court has eschewed bright-line rules [in Fourth Amendment
    inquiries], instead emphasizing the fact-specific nature of the
    reasonableness inquiry." State v. Malone, 
    2004 WI 108
    , ¶17, 
    274 Wis. 2d 540
    , 
    683 N.W.2d 1
     (quoting Ohio v. Robinette, 
    519 U.S. 33
    , 39 (1996)); see generally State v. Coffee, 
    2020 WI 53
    ,
    ¶¶37-42, 
    391 Wis. 2d 831
    , 
    943 N.W.2d 845
     (explaining why bright-
    (continued)
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    ¶89    Having      concluded    that       VanBeek     was    not    seized       when
    Officer Oetzel returned to his squad car, I now address the
    point at which I diverge from the majority/lead opinion——when
    Officer Oetzel returned to VanBeek's vehicle.                        The majority/lead
    opinion concludes that "VanBeek was seized during the second
    round of repetitive questions while Oetzel retained her driver's
    license."      Majority/lead op., ¶50.              I disagree because there are
    no    facts   in    the    record     that    demonstrate       that      the     otherwise
    consensual         encounter      between         Officer     Oetzel        and    VanBeek
    transformed into an impermissible seizure.
    ¶90    An officer can ask questions and retain identification
    of    an   individual      without     that       encounter    transforming         into    a
    seizure.       See Griffiths, 
    236 Wis. 2d 48
    , ¶39 (citing Bostick,
    
    501 U.S. at 434-35
    ).             This includes if the officer asks follow-
    up questions.        See I.N.S. v. Delgado, 
    466 U.S. 210
    , 216 (1984).
    As the United States Supreme Court has explained, "[u]nless the
    circumstances        of    the    encounter        are   so    intimidating         as     to
    demonstrate that a reasonable person would have believed he was
    not free to leave if he had not responded, one cannot say that
    the    questioning        resulted     in     a    detention        under    the    Fourth
    line rules are disfavored).  Instead of a bright-line rule, as
    the concurrence essentially suggests, the proper inquiry is
    whether, under the totality of the circumstances, a reasonable
    person would have felt free to terminate the encounter and go
    about their business. See Florida v. Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    , 439
    (1991).
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    Amendment."        Id.5     Only "if the person[] refuses to answer and
    the police take additional steps . . . to obtain an answer, then
    the Fourth Amendment imposes some minimal level of objective
    justification to validate the detention or seizure."                             
    Id. at 216-17
    .      Accordingly,          either     the    circumstances      must     be    so
    intimidating       that     the    questioning       would    cause    a   reasonable
    person to believe that she was not free to leave if she had not
    responded, or the police must take additional steps to obtain an
    answer     after    a     refusal    to     answer    for     the    interaction       to
    transform from a consensual encounter into a Fourth Amendment
    seizure.    We have neither in this case.
    ¶91     Here, the only circumstances that the majority/lead
    opinion points to are that Officer Oetzel retained VanBeek's
    driver's    license        and    continued     to   ask     repetitive       questions.
    Majority/lead       op.,     ¶50.         However,    repeated       questioning       is
    permissible        under     the    Fourth      Amendment       so     long     as    the
    circumstances are not "so intimidating as to demonstrate that a
    reasonable person would have believed he was not free to leave
    if he had not responded."                 Delgado, 
    466 U.S. at 216
    .                  Thus,
    Officer Oetzel's retention of the driver's license must have
    been "so intimidating" that a reasonable person in VanBeek's
    position would not have felt free to terminate the encounter and
    go about her business.              But a reasonable person is willing to
    5  The formulation of the reasonable person test evolved to
    its current form after I.N.S. v. Delgado, 
    446 U.S. 210
    (1984): Whether an innocent, reasonable person would have felt
    free to terminate the encounter and go about their business.
    See Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 439
    .
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    ask for the return of their identification.                    See, e.g., United
    States v. Weaver, 
    282 F.3d 302
    , 312 (4th Cir. 2002) (holding
    that the defendant was free to request his license be returned
    to him so that he could end the encounter).                    VanBeek could have
    requested that Officer Oetzel return her identification, and she
    could have gone about her business.               
    Id.
       However, she chose not
    to.    Instead, she "nonetheless remain[ed] in police presence,
    perhaps because of a desire to be cooperative."                         Young, 
    294 Wis. 2d 1
    ,      ¶37.      Accordingly,        Officer   Oetzel's     retention    of
    VanBeek's identification was not "so intimidating" that VanBeek
    could not have requested the return of her identification and
    terminated the encounter.
    ¶92     Moreover, the majority/lead opinion relies heavily on
    the   fact    VanBeek    would   not     have   been    able   to    terminate   the
    encounter and leave the scene because she needed her license to
    lawfully operate her vehicle.             Majority/lead op., ¶45.          However,
    this reliance is misplaced.               The test for a seizure is not
    whether a person would feel free to leave the scene; rather, the
    proper inquiry is whether a person would feel free to terminate
    the encounter and go about their business.                      See Bostick, 
    501 U.S. at 439
    .          As I explained above, VanBeek's "business" when
    Officer      Oetzel    arrived   was    sitting    in   her    vehicle    with   her
    passenger.       Although she expressed an interest in leaving the
    scene,    this   was     not   her     "business."       Consequently,      Officer
    Oetzel's retention of her driver's license in no way impeded her
    ability to go about the business of sitting in her vehicle with
    her passenger.
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    ¶93     Accordingly,         based         on      the     totality         of      the
    circumstances,         VanBeek      was     not     seized       when    Officer        Oetzel
    returned to her vehicle, asked follow-up questions, and retained
    her identification.           Officer Oetzel's questioning and retention
    of VanBeek's identification was not sufficiently intimidating to
    render mandatory compliance and transform the encounter into a
    seizure.        VanBeek      could    have        asked    for    the     return    of     her
    identification, but she never did, "perhaps because of a desire
    to   be    cooperative."           Young,    
    294 Wis. 2d 1
    ,       ¶37.     Moreover,
    VanBeek did not need her license to go about her business——
    namely, sitting in her vehicle with her passenger.
    ¶94     Because VanBeek was not seized, the circuit court did
    not err when it denied VanBeek's motion to suppress.
    II.     CONCLUSION
    ¶95     While     I   agree        with     the     majority/lead         opinion's
    conclusion that VanBeek was not seized when Officer Oetzel took
    her driver's license to his squad car and ran a warrant check,
    see majority/lead op., ¶45, I write separately because VanBeek
    was not seized when Officer Oetzel returned to VanBeek's vehicle
    and continued asking her follow-up questions.                           When looking at
    the totality of the circumstances, it is clear that VanBeek was
    free      to   ask     for   her     driver's          license    back     and     end     the
    interaction.           Consequently, her encounter with Officer Oetzel
    was consensual, and she was not seized.
    ¶96     Accordingly, I respectfully dissent.
    ¶97     I am authorized to state that Justices REBECCA GRASSL
    BRADLEY and BRIAN K. HAGEDORN join this dissent.
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