in Interest of K.S-E , 2021 COA 93 ( 2021 )


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    SUMMARY
    July 8, 2021
    2021COA93
    No. 19CA1948, People in Interest of K.S-E. — Constitutional
    Law — Fifth Amendment — Right Against Self-Incrimination
    A division of the court of appeals concludes, as a matter of
    first impression, that the Fifth Amendment guarantees a testifying
    witness the contemporaneous advice of counsel — on a question-
    by-question basis — in determining whether to invoke the privilege
    against self-incrimination. The division further concludes that the
    violation of a court order unlawfully prohibiting such advice could
    not sustain a finding of contempt where compliance with the order
    carried a substantial risk of irreparable harm.
    COLORADO COURT OF APPEALS                                           2021COA93
    Court of Appeals No. 19CA1948
    Arapahoe County District Court No. 18JV969
    Honorable Natalie T. Chase, Judge
    Honorable Sheila A. Rappaport, Judge
    The People of the State of Colorado,
    Appellee,
    In the Interest of K.S-E., a Child,
    and Concerning Alan Rosenfeld,
    Attorney-Appellant.
    ORDER VACATED
    Division III
    Opinion by JUDGE TAUBMAN*
    Furman and Gomez, JJ., concur
    Announced July 8, 2021
    Philip J. Weiser, Attorney General, Leeann Morrill, First Assistant Attorney
    General, Denver, Colorado, for Appellee
    Kilmer, Lane & Newman, LLP, David A. Lane, Liana Gerstle Orshan, Denver,
    Colorado, for Attorney-Appellant
    *Sitting by assignment of the Chief Justice under provisions of Colo. Const. art.
    VI, § 5(3), and § 24-51-1105, C.R.S. 2020.
    ¶1    Alan Rosenfeld, an attorney licensed to practice law in
    Colorado, appeals the district court’s order holding him in direct
    contempt for conduct during his representation of S.S. (mother) in a
    dependency and neglect proceeding.
    ¶2    To resolve this appeal, we must examine the lawfulness of a
    court order implicating mother’s Fifth Amendment rights, the
    violation of which gave rise to Rosenfeld’s contempt citation.
    Specifically, we are asked to determine, as a matter of first
    impression, whether the court could lawfully prohibit Rosenfeld
    from contemporaneously advising mother, on a question-by-
    question basis, to invoke her privilege against self-incrimination as
    she was testifying. Because we conclude that the Fifth
    Amendment’s concomitant right to advice of counsel encompasses
    contemporaneous advice, we conclude that Rosenfeld was entitled
    to advise mother about her Fifth Amendment rights on a question-
    by-question basis.
    ¶3    Moreover, applying the exception from Maness v. Meyers, 
    419 U.S. 449
     (1975), for the first time in Colorado, we conclude that the
    risk of irreparable harm from the court’s unlawful order was
    sufficient to excuse Rosenfeld’s noncompliance. Accordingly, we
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    vacate the district court’s order holding Rosenfeld in direct
    contempt and its imposition of punitive sanctions.
    I.   Background
    ¶4    Mother retained Rosenfeld to represent her in Arapahoe
    County District Court Case No. 18JV969, a dependency and neglect
    proceeding involving her child, K.S-E.
    ¶5    On January 24, 2019, before trial, the People and the
    guardian ad litem (GAL) appointed to represent K.S-E.’s interests
    filed a joint motion seeking the appointment of a GAL to represent
    mother’s interests. As grounds therefor, they alleged that mother
    was not competent to understand the proceedings. Mother opposed
    the motion.
    ¶6    On January 31, 2019, the district court judge, Judge Natalie
    Chase, conducted a pretrial readiness conference with the parties
    and counsel. That same day, Rosenfeld filed a motion in limine to
    exclude “any mention in front of the jury in this matter of pending
    criminal charges against the mother,” which arose from an incident
    in which mother allegedly kidnapped K.S-E.
    ¶7    At the pretrial conference, the district court addressed the
    joint motion to appoint a GAL to represent mother’s interests, for
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    which it decided to conduct and on-the-spot “Sorensen-type
    hearing.”1 The People called mother as a witness. Before beginning
    direct examination, the People informed the court that mother “has
    a pending criminal action that’s attendant to these proceedings and
    the factual allegations overlap” and asked that she be advised about
    her Fifth Amendment rights. The court agreed and gave a “full
    advisement” to mother.
    ¶8    Following the advisement, the People and the child’s GAL
    asserted that Rosenfeld should not be allowed to “stand up and
    invoke [the Fifth Amendment] on [mother’s] behalf.” Rosenfeld
    responded that “I will stand up and advise her to invoke,” to which
    the court responded, “No” and “I don’t think you get to do that.”
    ¶9    The People then began direct examination, during which the
    following exchanges occurred:
    1The court appears to have been referencing In re Marriage of
    Sorensen, 
    166 P.3d 254
     (Colo. App. 2007). There, a division of this
    court held that, in a dissolution of marriage action, where “a factual
    question clearly existed whether wife was competent and could
    adequately direct counsel or otherwise understand the nature of the
    proceedings,” “an evidentiary hearing [was] required to determine
    whether wife met the standard under People in Interest of M.M.[, 
    726 P.2d 1108
    , 1120 (Colo. 1986),] and, thus, whether she needed a
    guardian ad litem to act as her fiduciary.” Sorensen, 
    166 P.3d at 258
    .
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    [The People]: So why did you run with [K.S-E.]?
    [Rosenfeld]: Objection. I will advise her to —
    [The Court]: Sit down.
    [Rosenfeld]: — (indiscernible) Fifth Amendment
    right.
    [The Court]: You — I already told you you don’t
    get to do that. She makes the determination.
    [Rosenfeld]: And I get to advise her when it’s
    appropriate. I will.
    ....
    [The People]: And what information did you
    have during that period that led you to believe
    that you needed to take her?
    [Rosenfeld]: Objection, again. I’d advise my
    client to waive — to exercise her —
    [The Court]: If you keep —
    [Rosenfeld]: — Fifth Amendment right.
    [The Court]: — doing this, I’m going to hold
    you in direct contempt. I — it is her voluntary
    decision.
    [Mother]: I —
    [Rosenfeld]: Your honor, you may — and I
    don’t want — I’m not asking you to, but I
    understand what your — what your position
    is. But I have a responsibility to my client,
    and she has a right to be advised when there
    are questions.
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    [The Court]: You had the opportunity to advise
    her out in the hall about this. You don’t get to
    interrupt during every question, period.
    [Rosenfeld]: Only questions that implicate the
    Fifth Amendment, Your Honor.
    [The Court]: Sir, you do not — you show me
    case law for a civil proceeding that you get to
    interrupt when you believe it’s appropriate to
    tell her. I’m not aware of any. Do you have
    any? I’m speaking to you.
    ....
    [Rosenfeld]: Sure. I do not have the case law
    in front of me right now. But I am absolutely
    certain in my profession[al] [responsibility] and
    my obligation to — to give her that advice on a
    question-by-question basis.
    ....
    [The Court]: You had the opportunity to advise
    her out in the hall. Would you like another
    one?
    [Rosenfeld]: Sure.
    [The Court]: All right. You may advise her out
    in the hall, but that’s it, period. Go ahead.
    ¶ 10   After a short recess, and before the People resumed their
    examination of mother, the court reiterated its order:
    [The Court]: So, I’m going to go with the
    original, like, here’s the deal though. You
    don’t get to stand up and say, “I’m advising her
    to take the Fifth.” She’s been out — out in the
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    hall with you multiple times today. It will be
    her decision and it will be a voluntary decision
    if she’s going to answer the question. Per
    question. Okay?
    ¶ 11   During the remainder of direct examination, mother invoked
    her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination in
    response to several questions without Rosenfeld verbally advising
    her to do so. After cross and redirect examination, but while
    mother was still on the witness stand, the court asked mother: “Did
    your counsel advise you out in the hall that he would knock on the
    table for you [to invoke your] Fifth Amendment right, to plead the
    Fifth.” Rosenfeld objected on the basis of attorney-client privilege,
    and mother responded by stating “[a]ttorney-client privilege.” The
    following exchange then occurred:
    [The Court]: So, Mr. Rosenfeld, why is that you
    have been knocking on the table every time
    she’s pled the Fifth?
    ....
    [Rosenfeld]: Actually, Your Honor, there have
    been sometimes that I’ve knocked on the table
    and she hasn’t pled the Fifth. So, I don’t agree
    with your premise.
    [The Court]: So, you’re going to say that every
    time that she pled the Fifth, you didn’t knock?
    ’Cause I heard it.
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    [Rosenfeld]: Oh, no, that’s just — that — that
    — that’s a different question. I was saying
    that there have been — there have been times
    in this short proceeding when I either knocked
    or put my hand on the table and — and she
    did not plead the Fifth Amendment.
    [The Court]: As an officer of the court, and you
    knew this court’s orders with regards to the
    Fifth, did you instruct her that you would
    knock on the table as an advisement to plead
    the Fifth? Yes or no? It’s simple. Yes or no?
    [Rosenfeld]: Well, that directly implicates
    attorney-client communication. So, I don’t
    believe I can answer that, Your Honor.
    [The Court]: Okay. If you want me to go down
    that path, then I can hold you in contempt
    based on what I saw. Yes? No?
    [Rosenfeld]: Are you asking me to —
    [The Court]: I’m going to hold a negative
    inference on what you’re saying to me right
    now. And I will hold you in — in direct
    contempt. Are we clear? It —
    [Rosenfeld]: Yes, you’re clear.
    [The Court]: — a knocking is not
    communication. It is advising her when I
    directly told you you cannot do that, in a
    different form for each and every question. I
    directly told you that.
    ¶ 12   After another short recess, the court informed the parties that
    “[w]e’re going to proceed right now forthwith with direct contempt
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    whether it happened or not.” The court characterized its earlier
    order as directing Rosenfeld “not to stand or give any
    communication to [mother] — on whether she was going to plead
    the Fifth or not.” The court and Rosenfeld then had a lengthy
    discussion about whether his knocking violated the court’s earlier
    order. Rosenfeld expressed some confusion as to the scope of the
    order, stating that he was under the impression he had only been
    ordered not to stand and object on Fifth Amendment grounds.
    However, he acknowledged that he was, “in a variety of forms,
    sometimes trying to get her attention . . . [and] [t]rying to protect
    her Fifth Amendment rights and advise her about whether or not
    the questions were potentially in violation of her Fifth Amendment
    [rights].”
    ¶ 13    Ultimately, the court found Rosenfeld in direct contempt for
    violating its order:
    She’s on the witness stand. You don’t get to
    tell her what to say or not to say. That’s the
    whole point of why I issued the order. And if
    you had confusions as to the order, you should
    have addressed it instead of trying to be
    sneaky behind this Court’s back, which is
    exactly what you just admitted to. You and
    your actions, this Court is finding is so
    extreme that this is absolutely something this
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    Court would never expect from any lawful
    attorney practicing law in this court or any
    other court. And that this Court warned you.
    And I don’t even need to warn you now, you’ve
    admitted to it, that your conduct is so offensive
    to the authority and dignity of this Court that I
    have no choice but to find you in direct
    contempt. To think that just because I said no
    standing up — if that’s what I really said —
    you don’t get to advise her, you know the
    intent. You were trying to be sneaky behind
    this Court’s back, but I caught on. And that’s
    not okay.
    ¶ 14   When the hearing on the joint motion to appoint a GAL for
    mother resumed, the court noted, “I held Mr. Rosenfeld in direct
    contempt” and listed several concerns about allowing him to
    continue to represent mother. The court ultimately removed
    Rosenfeld as the attorney for mother and ordered him to appear on
    February 7, 2019, for sentencing on the direct contempt finding.
    ¶ 15   The day before the sentencing hearing, Rosenfeld filed a
    motion to reconsider the contempt finding on the ground that the
    court’s order prohibiting him from contemporaneously advising his
    client was unlawful. He also requested that Judge Chase recuse
    herself from the contempt proceedings. Judge Chase continued the
    sentencing hearing to March 7, 2019, at which point she denied
    Rosenfeld’s motion to reconsider her finding of direct contempt.
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    However, she recused herself from any further involvement, and the
    case was assigned to Judge Sheila Rappaport.
    ¶ 16   Rosenfeld then filed a motion to dismiss the contempt citation,
    largely raising the same arguments as in his earlier motion for
    reconsideration. At a hearing on July 30, 2019, Judge Rappaport
    denied the motion and set a sentencing hearing for October 3,
    2019. At the October hearing, Judge Rappaport imposed a $1,000
    fine against Rosenfeld, which she stayed pending exhaustion of
    Rosenfeld’s appellate remedies.
    ¶ 17   Rosenfeld now appeals the court’s order holding him in
    contempt and its imposition of punitive sanctions.
    II.   Standard of Review
    ¶ 18   “A finding of contempt is within the trial court’s sound
    discretion and may not be reversed absent an abuse of that
    discretion.” People ex rel. State Eng’r v. Sease, 
    2018 CO 91
    , ¶ 24,
    
    429 P.3d 1205
    , 1211. A district court abuses its discretion when
    its ruling is manifestly arbitrary, unreasonable, or unfair or is
    contrary to law. Id.; Sos v. Roaring Fork Transp. Auth., 
    2017 COA 142
    , ¶ 48, ___ P.3d ___, ___. However, the lawfulness of a district
    court’s order — the violation of which may give rise to a finding of
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    contempt — is subject to de novo review. See Hartsel Springs Ranch
    of Colo., Inc. v. Cross Slash Ranch, LLC, 
    179 P.3d 237
    , 239 (Colo.
    App. 2007) (In an appeal from a contempt citation, “we review the
    trial court’s . . . legal conclusions de novo.”); White v. Adamek, 
    907 P.2d 735
    , 737-38 (Colo. App. 1995) (reviewing de novo whether a
    district court’s order, violated by the defendant, was lawful).
    III.   Applicable Law and Analysis
    ¶ 19   As an initial matter, we note that the parties espouse opposing
    views as to the scope of the court’s order. Rosenfeld construes the
    order as having prohibited him only from standing and objecting on
    Fifth Amendment grounds. The district court, however, maintains
    on appeal that the order prohibited any attempt to advise mother to
    invoke her privilege against self-incrimination on a question-by-
    question basis. Though Judge Chase later clarified that she
    intended the latter, the record indicates that her initial order did
    not expressly preclude Rosenfeld from knocking on the table or
    otherwise communicating with mother.
    ¶ 20   The lack of clarity in the court’s order raises the question of
    whether it unambiguously prohibited Rosenfeld’s conduct. See
    Hartsel Springs Ranch of Colo., Inc., 
    179 P.3d at 239
     (“Generally,
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    there can be no contempt unless an order or decree requires a party
    to do, or refrain from doing, some specific act.”). However,
    Rosenfeld only points out the order’s potential ambiguity to suggest
    that punitive sanctions were improper because he did not willfully
    violate the order. See In re Marriage of Cyr, 
    186 P.3d 88
    , 92 (Colo.
    App. 2008) (“Punitive sanctions for contempt must be supported by
    findings of fact establishing beyond a reasonable doubt . . . the
    contemnor’s willful refusal to comply with the order.”). Because we
    do not reach the issue of whether Rosenfeld’s alleged violation was
    willful, we do not address the potential ambiguity of the court’s
    order. Accordingly, though the issue is not free from doubt, we will
    assume that the order was broad enough to prohibit Rosenfeld from
    contemporaneously advising mother on a question-by-question
    basis.
    ¶ 21   To the extent the court’s order prohibited such conduct,
    Rosenfeld contends that the order was unlawful under the Fifth
    Amendment. He further contends that because compliance with
    the order carried a substantial risk of irreparable harm to mother,
    he was under no duty to comply. Thus, he argues, his violation of
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    the court’s order could not sustain a finding of direct contempt. We
    agree.
    A.    Contempt in General
    ¶ 22   “[T]he purpose[s] of the contempt power [are] to maintain the
    dignity and authority of the court and to preserve its functionality.”
    People v. Aleem, 
    149 P.3d 765
    , 781 (Colo. 2007). Thus, “[a] court
    may hold a party in contempt for any conduct which interferes with
    the court’s administration of justice, is derogatory to the dignity of
    the court, or tends to bring the judiciary into disrespect.” 
    Id. at 774
    . As relevant here, such conduct may include a party’s failure
    to comply with a court order. See C.R.C.P. 107(a)(1) (defining
    contempt as including “disobedience . . . by any person to . . . any
    lawful . . . order of the court”); see also Sease, ¶ 37, 429 P.3d at
    1213.
    ¶ 23   “Contempt proceedings are governed by C.R.C.P. 107.” Sease,
    ¶ 21, 429 P.3d at 1210. The rule distinguishes between two types
    of contempt — direct and indirect. “Direct contempt,” the type
    involved here, is contempt that “the court has seen or heard and is
    so extreme that no warning is necessary or that has been repeated
    despite the court’s warning to desist.” C.R.C.P. 107(a)(2). “Indirect
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    contempt” refers to contempt that “occurs out of the direct sight or
    hearing of the court.” C.R.C.P. 107(a)(3).
    ¶ 24    Rule 107 vests the court with the authority to impose remedial
    or punitive sanctions on a contemptuous party for certain defined
    behavior. See C.R.C.P. 107(a)(4), (5); Aleem, 149 P.3d at 781 (Rule
    107 “limits the court’s contempt power by defining the type of
    behavior that courts may punish with contempt sanctions.”).
    Punitive sanctions — the type imposed against Rosenfeld — “are
    criminal in nature and are designed to punish ‘by unconditional
    fine, fixed sentence of imprisonment, or both, for conduct that is
    found to be offensive to the authority and dignity of the court.’” In
    re Marriage of Cyr, 
    186 P.3d at 91
     (quoting C.R.C.P. 107(a)(4)).
    B.   The Court’s Order Was Unlawful Under the Fifth Amendment
    ¶ 25    Because, as discussed below, a party may be excused from
    compliance with an unlawful order in exceptional circumstances,
    we begin by considering Rosenfeld’s contention that the court’s
    order was unlawful under the Fifth Amendment.
    ¶ 26    The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which
    is applicable to the states through the Fourteenth Amendment,
    guarantees that no person “shall be compelled in any criminal case
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    to be a witness against himself.” U.S. Const. amend. V; see People
    v. Ruch, 
    2016 CO 35
    , ¶ 20, 
    379 P.3d 309
    , 313. Thus, “[t]he Fifth
    Amendment provides a witness with a privilege to decline to answer
    questions if the answers would incriminate him or her” in future
    criminal proceedings. People v. Smith, 
    275 P.3d 715
    , 720 (Colo.
    App. 2011); accord Ruch, ¶ 20, 379 P.3d at 313. The privilege
    against self-incrimination “can be asserted in any proceeding, civil
    or criminal, administrative or judicial, investigatory or
    adjudicatory.” Kastigar v. United States, 
    406 U.S. 441
    , 444 (1972).
    ¶ 27   As relevant here, the United States Supreme Court has also
    recognized that the Fifth Amendment embraces a concomitant right
    to the advice of counsel distinct from that protected by the Sixth
    Amendment. Maness, 
    419 U.S. at 465-66
    .
    ¶ 28   In Maness, an attorney was held in contempt in a civil
    proceeding solely for advising his client to refuse, on Fifth
    Amendment grounds, to comply with a subpoena duces tecum that
    sought to compel the client to produce obscene magazines. 
    Id. at 450-55
    . In reversing the district court’s contempt citation, the
    Court observed that
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    [t]he privilege against compelled self-
    incrimination would be drained of its meaning
    if counsel, being lawfully present, as here,
    could be penalized for advising his client in
    good faith to assert it. The assertion of a
    testimonial privilege, as of many other rights,
    often depends upon legal advice from someone
    who is trained and skilled in the subject
    matter, and who may offer a more objective
    opinion. A layman may not be aware of the
    precise scope, the nuances, and boundaries of
    his Fifth Amendment privilege. It is not a self-
    executing mechanism; it can be affirmatively
    waived, or lost by not asserting it in a timely
    fashion.
    
    Id. at 465-66
     (footnotes omitted).
    ¶ 29   Accordingly, the Court held that “an advocate is not subject to
    the penalty of contempt for advising his client, in good faith, to
    assert the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination in
    any proceeding embracing the power to compel testimony.” 
    Id. at 468
    . “To hold otherwise,” it explained, “would deny the
    constitutional privilege against self-incrimination the means of its
    own implementation. When a witness is so advised the advice
    becomes an integral part of the protection accorded the witness by
    the Fifth Amendment.” 
    Id. ¶ 30
       Thus, the Court acknowledged that the constitutional privilege
    against compulsory self-incrimination embraces a witness’s right to
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    the advice of counsel in a civil proceeding. See 
    id. at 470
     (Stewart,
    J., concurring in the result) (so articulating the court’s holding).
    The premise underlying the conclusion that
    the constitutional privilege against compulsory
    self-incrimination includes the right to the
    unfettered advice of counsel in civil
    proceedings must be that there is a
    constitutional right, also derived from the
    privilege against compulsory self-
    incrimination, to some advice of counsel
    concerning the privilege in the first place.
    
    Id. at 471
    .
    ¶ 31   Accordingly, the Fifth Amendment includes a concomitant
    right to the advice of counsel in determining whether to assert one’s
    privilege against self-incrimination. However, does that right
    guarantee a testifying witness the contemporaneous advice of
    counsel on a question-by-question basis? This question appears to
    be one of first impression in Colorado. Indeed, the Maness Court
    left largely undefined the scope of the right and how it operates as a
    matter of practical application. However, for the reasons discussed
    below, we answer this question in the affirmative.
    ¶ 32   It is well established that the privilege against self-
    incrimination “is an option of a refusal, not a prohibition of
    inquiry,” and thus it “may not be asserted as a blanket claim in
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    advance of the questions actually propounded.” Ruch, ¶ 23, 379
    P.3d at 313 (quoting People v. Austin, 
    159 Colo. 445
    , 450, 
    412 P.2d 425
    , 427 (1966)). Rather, as the Colorado Supreme Court has
    recognized, “[t]he proper procedure” when invoking the privilege “is
    to wait until a question which tends to be incriminating has been
    asked and then decline to answer.” Austin, 159 Colo. at 450, 
    412 P.2d at 427
    ; accord People in Interest of I.O., 
    713 P.2d 396
    , 397
    (Colo. App. 1985). This is in part because the availability of the
    privilege turns on the nature of a particular question and the
    exposure that it invites. See, e.g., Rogers v. United States, 
    340 U.S. 367
    , 373 (1951) (A witness “cannot invoke the privilege where
    response to the specific question in issue . . . would not further
    incriminate her.”); Wilson v. United States, 
    558 A.2d 1135
    , 1141
    (D.C. 1989) (“[A] witness may invoke the privilege only as to those
    specific questions to which his answers would incriminate him.”),
    overruled on other grounds by Carter v. United States, 
    684 A.2d 331
    (D.C. 1996).
    ¶ 33   Thus, the determination of whether to invoke the privilege
    must be made on a question-by-question basis. Yet, as the Maness
    Court explained, a witness cannot be expected to soundly make
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    such a determination absent the advice of counsel — accordingly,
    the right to such advice is subsumed within the Fifth Amendment.
    See 
    419 U.S. at 466
     (“The assertion of a testimonial privilege . . .
    often depends upon legal advice from someone who is trained and
    skilled in the subject matter,” as “[a] layman may not be aware of
    the precise scope, the nuances, and boundaries of his Fifth
    Amendment privilege.”). In fact, where a witness has difficulty
    understanding the proceedings, some courts have gone so far as to
    suggest that a witness’s attorney may interpose the privilege on the
    witness’s behalf on each potentially incriminating question. See
    People v. Macias, 
    44 Colo. App. 203
    , 207, 
    616 P.2d 150
    , 153 (1980)
    (The district court did not abuse its discretion where “[t]he court
    observed that the witness had difficulty understanding the
    questions asked, and, rather than requiring her to decide whether
    the questions were self-incriminating, the court allowed her
    attorney to interpose the privilege for her.”); see also Garcia-
    Quintero v. Gonzales, 
    455 F.3d 1006
    , 1019 (9th Cir. 2006) (stating
    in dicta that “[u]pon hearing a question put forth by the
    Government that he thought triggered the Fifth Amendment,
    Garcia-Quintero’s attorney could have objected, or asked to consult
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    with his client”) (footnote omitted), overruled on other grounds by
    Medina-Nunez v. Lynch, 
    788 F.3d 1103
     (9th Cir. 2015) (per curiam).
    ¶ 34   In sum, then, a witness has a Fifth Amendment right to the
    advice of counsel in determining whether to invoke the privilege,
    but any such determination must necessarily be question-specific.
    Thus, it follows that the right must encompass a guarantee to
    contemporaneous advice on a question-by-question basis.2 See
    Hoffman v. United States, 
    341 U.S. 479
    , 486 (1951) (The Fifth
    Amendment “must be accorded liberal construction in favor of the
    right it was intended to secure.”). Because the district court’s order
    here prohibited Rosenfeld from contemporaneously advising his
    client, we conclude that the order was unlawful under the Fifth
    Amendment.3
    2 To the extent the facts of this case implicitly present an ancillary
    question as to whether a witness must exercise the right by
    requesting advice of counsel or whether an attorney may simply
    interpose advice, the parties do not raise the issue. Thus, we do not
    address it.
    3 Rosenfeld also suggests that the order was unlawful under the
    Sixth Amendment. However, as the district court points out on
    appeal, the United States Supreme Court clearly held in Perry v.
    Leeke that the Sixth Amendment does not afford a witness a
    “constitutional right to consult with his lawyer while he is
    testifying.” 
    488 U.S. 272
    , 281 (1989). Still, Perry concerned only
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    C.   Rosenfeld Was Excused From Complying With the Order
    ¶ 35    Our conclusion as to the unlawfulness of the court’s order,
    however, does not end our inquiry. Simply because the district
    court’s order was unlawful does not necessarily excuse Rosenfeld’s
    noncompliance; a party generally must comply even with an
    unlawful order or risk being held in contempt. Indeed,
    it is fundamental to our legal system that “all
    orders and judgments of courts must be
    complied with promptly. If a person to whom a
    judge directs an order believes that order is
    incorrect the remedy is to appeal, but, absent
    a stay, he must comply promptly with the
    order pending appeal. Persons who make
    private determinations of the law and refuse to
    obey an order generally risk criminal contempt
    even if the order is ultimately ruled incorrect.”
    People v. Coyle, 
    654 P.2d 815
    , 820 (Colo. 1982) (quoting Maness,
    
    419 U.S. at 458
    ); see also People v. Jones, 
    262 P.3d 982
    , 987 (Colo.
    App. 2011) (stating in dicta that a party is “not free to disregard a
    ruling she th[inks] to be incorrect: her remedy [is] to appeal after
    judgment”). But see C.R.C.P. 107(a)(1) (defining contempt as
    the reach of the Sixth Amendment’s right to counsel, not the
    concomitant right to advice of counsel under the Fifth Amendment.
    Thus, Perry does not affect our analysis of the lawfulness of the
    court’s order under the Fifth Amendment.
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    including “disobedience . . . by any person to . . . any lawful . . .
    order of the court”) (emphasis added); White, 
    907 P.2d at 739
    (“[T]hat part of the sentencing order . . . was not a lawful order, and
    Adamek’s violation of that order cannot support the contempt
    finding entered by the trial court.”); see also People v. Voth, 
    2013 CO 61
    , ¶ 15, 
    312 P.3d 144
    , 148 (“A trial court necessarily abuses
    its discretion if its ruling is based on an erroneous view of the
    law.”).4
    ¶ 36    However, in Maness, the Court recognized an exception to that
    general rule in the context of the Fifth Amendment:
    When a court during trial orders a witness to
    reveal information . . . [c]ompliance could
    cause irreparable injury because appellate
    courts cannot always “unring the bell” once
    the information has been released.
    Subsequent appellate vindication does not
    necessarily have its ordinary consequence of
    totally repairing the error. In those situations
    we have indicated the person to whom such an
    order is directed has an alternative:
    “[W]e have consistently held that the necessity
    for expedition in the administration of the
    criminal law justifies putting one who seeks to
    resist the production of desired information to
    4Though there appears to be conflicting authority as to whether an
    unlawful court order can support a finding of contempt, Rosenfeld
    concedes the point.
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    a choice between compliance with a trial
    court’s order to produce prior to any review of
    that order, and resistance to that order with
    the concomitant possibility of an adjudication
    of contempt if his claims are rejected on
    appeal.”
    
    419 U.S. at 460
     (citation omitted).
    ¶ 37   In other words, if an order is found to be unlawful under the
    Fifth Amendment, and if obedience to the order carries with it a
    substantial risk of irreparable harm, a party’s failure to comply with
    the order cannot support a finding of contempt. See In re Novak,
    
    932 F.2d 1397
    , 1401-02 (11th Cir. 1991) (the collateral bar rule
    ordinarily requiring compliance with an unlawful order is subject to
    various exceptions, including when an order “require[s] an
    irretrievable surrender of constitutional guarantees”); see also In re
    Grand Jury Proceedings, 
    601 F.2d 162
    , 169 (5th Cir. 1979)
    (contempt order reversed when it infringed on attorney-client
    privilege, applying Maness to apply to any order requiring surrender
    of rights or privileges that would cause irreparable injury).
    ¶ 38   To be sure, the case before us is factually distinguishable from
    Maness. In Maness, the district court erroneously determined that
    the attorney’s client could not assert the privilege against self-
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    incrimination, and thus it sought to compel the production of
    incriminating evidence despite the client’s invocation of the
    privilege. Here, however, the district court never suggested that
    Rosenfeld’s client could not invoke the privilege. Indeed, the record
    indicates that mother successfully did so on several occasions
    during the competency hearing, albeit on Rosenfeld’s cue. However,
    in our view, the risk of irreparable harm to mother was nonetheless
    substantial enough to implicate the exception outlined in Maness.
    ¶ 39   At the outset of the hearing, the People indicated that they
    intended to inquire into mother’s pending criminal charges.
    Though we question the relevance of such an inquiry to mother’s
    competency, the People nonetheless directly questioned mother
    about the underlying facts of the pending charges, putting her at
    risk of incriminating herself.
    ¶ 40   The district court posits, however, that any incriminating
    testimony given by mother would be inadmissible in a later criminal
    prosecution under section 19-3-207, C.R.S. 2020, a statute
    intended to limit the admissibility of certain evidence that was
    “derived directly from testimony obtained pursuant to compulsory
    process in a proceeding under [article 3 of title 19].” § 19-3-207(1).
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    Specifically, the district court directs us to section 19-3-207(3),
    which provides that “[n]o admission made by a respondent in open
    court or by written pleading filed with the court to a petition in
    dependency or neglect may be used against him or her in any
    criminal prosecution, except for purposes of impeachment or
    rebuttal.” However, in People v. Stroud, 
    2014 COA 58
    , ¶ 28, 
    356 P.3d 903
    , 909, a division of this court expressly rejected the district
    court’s position.
    ¶ 41   In Stroud, the division examined the scope of section 19-3-
    207(3) and concluded that the term “admission” as used in the
    provision “only refers to a parent’s formal admission or denial of the
    allegations in a petition.” Stroud, ¶ 27, 356 P.3d at 909. Therefore,
    it reasoned, section 19-3-207(3) does not preclude a trial court “in a
    subsequent criminal case” from “admit[ting] statements — i.e.,
    testimony — made during a contested dependency and neglect
    adjudicatory or termination of parental rights hearing.” Stroud,
    ¶ 28, 356 P.3d at 909. And in any event, even under the district
    court’s interpretation of section 19-3-207(3), mother’s testimony
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    could have been used against her in her criminal trial for purposes
    of impeachment or rebuttal. See § 19-3-207(3).5
    ¶ 42   Thus, contrary to the district court’s position, no state statute
    or rule guarantees a privilege or assures that mother’s testimony at
    the hearing would be inadmissible in a later criminal prosecution.
    ¶ 43   Moreover, compounding the risk of harm to mother was the
    apparent uncertainty as to her competency. In their joint motion to
    appoint a GAL for mother, the People and the GAL appointed to
    K.S-E. claimed that mother “appears confused about the
    proceedings, her rights, and her options. She appears unable to
    advocate for herself or her best interests. The [County]
    Caseworkers and the GAL have significant concerns about Mother’s
    ability to comprehend these proceedings, given her current mental
    health status.” The motion ultimately alleged that “Respondent
    Mother is incapable of effectively participating in an adjudication
    proceeding and thus in need of a fiduciary representative.”
    5 We note that it is unclear whether section 19-3-207(3), C.R.S.
    2020, applies to statements made at a Sorensen hearing and
    therefore express no opinion on the issue.
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    ¶ 44   Given that the People had called her competency into
    question, there was reason to doubt whether mother would be able
    to effectively assert the privilege without the contemporaneous
    advice of counsel, even though the court had advised her of her
    Fifth Amendment rights. Indeed, as the Maness Court observed,
    even where a witness’s competency is not in doubt, the guidance of
    counsel is ordinarily required to enable an individual to effectively
    avoid prejudice to the invocation of his or her Fifth Amendment
    privilege. 
    419 U.S. at 465-66
    .
    ¶ 45   In sum, then, there was a distinct risk that (1) any
    incriminating information mother offered in her testimony would
    later be used against her and (2) she would be unable to effectively
    assert her privilege against self-incrimination without the
    contemporaneous advice of counsel. Presented with those risks,
    Rosenfeld was faced with a dilemma: comply with the district
    court’s unlawful order at the risk of mother incriminating herself or
    disobey the order at his own risk of a contempt citation. Rosenfeld
    chose the latter option, prioritizing his client’s interests over his
    own. Ultimately, we conclude that Rosenfeld’s choice was not
    merely principled, but legally justified. Because compliance with
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    the court’s unlawful order carried a substantial risk of irreparable
    harm to mother, we conclude that Rosenfeld was under no duty to
    comply with it. See 
    id. at 460
    . Accordingly, Rosenfeld’s violation of
    the order could not support a finding of contempt. We therefore
    vacate the court’s order holding Rosenfeld in contempt and its
    imposition of punitive sanctions. See Jones, 
    262 P.3d at 991
    (vacating a contempt order is the appropriate remedy).6
    IV.   Conclusion
    ¶ 46   The order is vacated.
    JUDGE FURMAN and JUDGE GOMEZ concur.
    6 Having vacated the court’s contempt order, we need not address
    Rosenfeld’s alternative argument that he was excused from
    compliance with the court’s unlawful order because it was
    “transparently invalid,” a theory rooted in federal law that has yet to
    be applied in Colorado. Nor must we reach his remaining
    contentions that there was insufficient evidence to support a
    contempt finding or that he was not afforded adequate due process.
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